| TimU | Scratch that. Starting fresh from "apt-get source ..." and running debuild seems to be working. I must have horked it somehow while trying to enable debugging. | 00:22 |
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| hyperair | does anybody here have experience with ati cards and backlight setting? | 07:12 |
| RAOF | bryce: I think the libdrm changes are ready for upload. I've added the LP foo to the changelog, pushed to git again. | 08:18 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: ok, I can take care of it | 08:36 |
| RAOF | Thanks. | 08:36 |
| tjaalton | superm1: 529d1d720 made it in 7.4 | 08:36 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, spectacular. i sent an email to that ML and when i got turned away to that vmware guy's email. so sounds like he made it happen :) | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | superm1: your email got through to the list today :) | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | building mesa 7.4 now, and if it's ok I'll upload it to my ppa | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | and file a FFe for it | 08:50 |
| tjaalton | ok, mesa is building now https://edge.launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ppa | 10:01 |
| bryce | tjaalton: let me know the bug id for the FFe so I can help push it through | 17:08 |
| sbeattie | bryce: low-priority, but do you know what's up with bug 351076? They all provide xserver-xorg-video-2.1 which xserver-xorg-core lists as a conflict; are they incompatible and should be removed, or is there some other fix/update that needs to happen? | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 351076 in xserver-xorg-input-void "Package xserver-xorg-input-aiptek does not install (Januty beta)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351076 | 17:14 |
| tjaalton | sbeattie: there are a few input drivers that won't build against xserver 1.6. on my list of things to fix.. | 17:19 |
| tjaalton | bryce: it doesn't exist yet :) | 17:19 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok. | 17:19 |
| bryce | actually I think I ran across a "please upgrade to mesa 7.4" bug we could probably reuse | 17:20 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 17:20 |
| bryce | sbeattie: what timo said :-) I can confirm I was able to reproduce the problem. | 17:20 |
| tjaalton | i was hoping to just sync them from debian, but it might take a week or two until 1.6 is in unstable | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | only a handful of drivers are updated against it in experimental | 17:22 |
| tjaalton | there are maybe six drivers to fix | 17:23 |
| sbeattie | okay, I just wanted to make sure you guys were on top of it; I dislike having uninstallable packages in the archive. | 17:26 |
| tjaalton | the archive rebuild was a great reminder ;) | 17:27 |
| Ng | this is so weird, the guy who sites next to me just upgraded to jaunty, he also has a 965 and his is smooth as in Intrepid. I downgraded from xorg-edgers to jaunty packages and mine is back to being highly affected by CPU. our Xorg.0.logs are very similar | 17:30 |
| Ng | could something like mtrr be at fault I wonder? | 17:30 |
| * Ng never been entirely sure how to check the sanity of mtrrs | 17:31 | |
| bryce | tjaalton: hmm, a week or two might cut things a bit close; what needs done to update them specifically? Just packaging stuff or does it need code changes as well? | 17:48 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: if you can prep them in git i could upload to experimental probably. | 17:51 |
| jcristau | no time to do it myself this week though | 17:51 |
| tjaalton | bryce: new upstream versions, likely | 17:51 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: ok, I'll have a look tomorrow | 17:54 |
| bryce | tjaalton: do you happen to know how .pot files get added to xkeyboard-config? (bug 349341) | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349341 in xkeyboard-config "launchpad xkeyboard-config .pot is obsolete: 1.4 whereas binary is 1.5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349341 | 18:09 |
| bryce | tjaalton: it seems once in the past there was a .pot file included, but the packaging doesn't seem to produce it | 18:09 |
| Ng | UXA doesn't seem to help either, which is interesting | 18:13 |
| Ng | the only thing that seems to help is flipping up to the edgers packages, but that brings occasional X hangs, and more frequent segfaults on resume | 18:13 |
| tjaalton | bryce: don't remember off-hand, but + can check once I get home | 18:16 |
| bryce | ok thanks | 18:17 |
| tjaalton | Ng: now is a good chance to try mesa 7.4 from my ppa ;) | 18:18 |
| Ng | tjaalton: sure, I'll downgrade to jaunty -intel stuff again | 18:19 |
| Ng | tjaalton: in your personal ppa? | 18:21 |
| tjaalton | Ng: yep | 18:21 |
| Ng | ok, installed, rebootin' | 18:22 |
| Ng | tjaalton: well it doesn't seem to have improved things, but it hasn't made them any worse :) | 18:26 |
| tjaalton | Ng: eexcellent :) | 18:29 |
| Ng | is the new mesa so we can sneak in a newer -intel? ;) | 18:30 |
| tjaalton | a cunning plan, you say? :) | 18:32 |
| Ng | I have a sticky tail and a "Fox" name badge for such a plan ;) | 18:32 |
| bryce | Ng: sort of late in the process to be upping -intel... the mesa update is mainly for bug fixes | 18:35 |
| tjaalton | yeah :) | 18:36 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, at some point were you looking into pulling the patch referred to in http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjYwMw into ubuntu? it certainly would make the things jockey has to do less necessary and great from a user perspective | 19:21 |
| tjaalton | superm1: yes I was | 19:24 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, what happened with it? | 19:25 |
| tjaalton | doesn't work if you have an xorg.conf | 19:25 |
| tjaalton | so we'd need to not ship one first | 19:25 |
| superm1 | but it's still an improvement over the current situation then no? | 19:26 |
| jcristau | loading with nv > failing to load because nvidia doesn't work | 19:26 |
| jcristau | so no | 19:26 |
| superm1 | oh it totally fails if no xorg.conf is around | 19:27 |
| tjaalton | different codepath | 19:27 |
| tjaalton | um | 19:27 |
| jcristau | FatalError("no screens found"); -> unhappy user :) | 19:28 |
| tjaalton | I mean, it doesn't work if there _is_ an xorg.conf | 19:28 |
| superm1 | so is the failure coming from extra checks going on in the NV driver or in X libraries? | 19:28 |
| tjaalton | I'm not sure what jcristau meant, but yes there are issues :) | 19:31 |
| jcristau | it's something like that: if (no xorg.conf) { make a list of possible drivers; for each one, if its preinit works, break, happiness, if not try the next one } else { find the first candidate; if its preinit fails, fatalerror } | 19:31 |
| superm1 | so why the logic to fail if the first candidate doesn't work when there is an xorg.conf? is there a good reason for that? | 19:32 |
| jcristau | (there's no good reason for it to work like that, but nobody's fixed it, so..) | 19:32 |
| tjaalton | ah, right :) | 19:32 |
| superm1 | ah | 19:33 |
| tjaalton | anyway, a couple of episodes of "my name is earl" now.. -> | 19:33 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, b4 you run, do you have the commit handy? i'd like to play around with it a bit when i get some time | 19:33 |
| jcristau | superm1: 66fb2530 | 19:34 |
| superm1 | thanks jcristau | 19:34 |
| jcristau | np | 19:34 |
| Ng | bryce: I figured as much ;( | 20:37 |
| bryce | Ng: if you know of specific patches/fixes that should be backported, I'd be game | 20:41 |
| Ng | bryce: I don't suppose there are any magic tools that'll help me build the driver between whatever is in jaunty and current git? | 20:45 |
| bryce | sort of a wip but there is scripts in xorg-pkg-tools that does it | 20:48 |
| bryce | Ng: but basically apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-intel, grab the git snapshot, autogen.sh, copy over the debian directory, and debuild to get a deb as usual | 20:49 |
| bryce | assuming you want to keep everything maintained by the packager; if you don't care, build/install from git should work too, although there may be some ./configure differences | 20:50 |
| Ng | bryce: I'll see what I can turn up. I guess a good initial thing would be to just diff the sources, but my guess is there will be a fair number of changes | 20:53 |
| bryce | Ng: indeed. git log and git show can be helpful | 20:59 |
| tjaalton | bryce: 'cd po; make xkeyboard-config.pot' would generate the potfile | 21:12 |
| bryce | tjaalton: mm, ok, any reason not to make the package do that automatically? | 21:12 |
| bryce | Subject: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Hug Day! - April 02 2009 | 21:13 |
| bryce | This week's HugDay target is *drum roll please* xorg-server and xserver-xorg-video-intel! | 21:13 |
| bryce | * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090402 | 21:13 |
| tjaalton | bryce: I guess the build has changed | 21:13 |
| jcristau | it looks like the pot file is not usually needed for the build, and isn't shipped in the upstream tarball. | 21:14 |
| tjaalton | yeah, so I'm not sure how launchpad wants it.. | 21:18 |
| tjaalton | bryce: that's going to be a busy session ;) | 21:21 |
| bryce | hope so | 21:21 |
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