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MamarokXKiLL3R: ask your question, if somebody is here who can help you will get an answer00:00
XKiLL3RMamarok Ok Thx :)00:00
XKiLL3R-> I Can't Change Resolution or Refresh rate ...00:00
MamarokXKiLL3R: you should give more precisions, like version, your graphic card, etc00:01
XKiLL3RKRAndRTry only have 800X600 and 61 refresh rate00:01
XKiLL3RVersion : Kubuntu 8.10 , VGA = HD 2600 , Monitor , CRT: acer AC71100:02
XKiLL3RX64 Version00:02
MamarokXKiLL3R: hm, did it work on the previous version?00:02
XKiLL3Rthis is first time to install kubuntu on this pc00:03
XKiLL3Rjust used ubuntu years ago @ old pc00:03
XKiLL3RMamarok i am really confused00:03
Mamarokdid it work on another Linux distro?00:04
XKiLL3Rubuntu and kubuntu gives same prob.00:04
XKiLL3Rboth r 8.10 ... both r x6400:04
Mamarokok, which driver do you use?00:05
Mamarokthe fglrx or the radeon?00:05
XKiLL3RMamarok:  nw nothig cuze i have try to install 1 b4 , and every thing gone00:05
XKiLL3Rafter robot it gives me a blank screen00:06
XKiLL3R*restart00:06
MamarokXKiLL3R: well, you still can login in recovery mode and check the drivers00:06
XKiLL3Rwiz safe mode too00:06
XKiLL3RMamarok: it would'nt worked last time00:06
Mamarokblank screen in recovery mode?00:06
XKiLL3Ryea00:06
XKiLL3Rboth recovery and normal00:06
XKiLL3Rnw i got a fresh boot install00:07
XKiLL3Rso i dun wanna lose it :(00:07
Mamarokouch, that sounds like a hardware problem, you mean it doesn't boot correctly?00:07
Mamarokrecovery mode means no X server, just plain command line00:07
XKiLL3Reverything goes gd till the kubuntu logo and the loading bar00:07
slerderHEy guys. Im tryring to reinstall ubuntu but for some reason I cant boot from my only dvd-drive i have which is USB. I even disabled booting from hard drives, set usb-cdrom to first boot device... went directly to the boot menu and selected usb-cdrom and nothing it simply wont boot. what can i do ? Thanks. Ps i have a gigabyte EP45-UD3R00:07
XKiLL3Rafter that blank screen00:07
MamarokXKiLL3R: did you try booting with a live CD?00:08
XKiLL3RMamarok:  yea it's only work in safe mode00:08
slerdermamarok ofcourse, i even tried a whole bunch of other boot cds and none work00:08
Mamarokslerder: sry, was talking to XKiLL3R :)00:09
XKiLL3Rbut nw it's ok i am in normal mode but wiz 800X600 and 61 refresh rate00:09
MamarokXKiLL3R: that graphic card should work with a better resolution though, you should try changing the driver00:09
XKiLL3RMamarok could u help me about that ?00:10
XKiLL3Rcommand or something00:10
XKiLL3Rcuze wiz 800X600 i can't install ati driver from hd cuze i can't click on buttons :S00:10
MamarokXKiLL3R: you normally should be able to shift the screen with the mouse by click+drag00:11
XKiLL3R:D i know but it's too tall to drag00:11
XKiLL3Rso i can't c :S00:11
Mamarokanyway, else you can reboot in recovery mode (normally the second option in your Grub menu)00:12
XKiLL3Rwithout 1024X76800:12
XKiLL3RMamarok:  then ...00:12
Mamarokand use the command line with network, so you can use sudo apt-get install to install the other driver00:12
XKiLL3RMamarok: ok give me a command 4 installing latest ati driver from net00:13
MamarokXKiLL3R: it depends on your repositories, you can check which driver with the command:00:14
Mamarokapt-cache search radeon (or fglrx)00:14
Mamarokit will show you the name of the package to install00:14
XKiLL3Rapt-cache search radeon00:15
MamarokXKiLL3R: I would love to help you more, but right now is a bad time, I will have to go now...00:15
XKiLL3ROMG00:15
XKiLL3RMamarok: Ok ThX Alot M800:15
XKiLL3RI will try to play wiz this00:15
MamarokI'm sorry, try to check with somebody else, there are other people around usually00:16
XKiLL3RMamarok: nvm k thx alot m8 :)00:16
Mamarokyou are welcome :) sry again00:16
XKiLL3Rnvm Thx alot :)00:17
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doug_fany hints on dual monitors with kubuntu the kde control module doesnt seem to be working very well00:33
doug_fwow everyone must be getting off work.00:35
XKiLL3Ryea00:35
borderlightim fairly new to linux and i was wondering how do you upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 8.10?00:36
XKiLL3Rborderlight http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading00:39
XKiLL3ROps i mean this : http://english.kalingasblog.com/2008/04/26/how-to-upgrade-kubuntu-710-to-kubuntu-804/00:40
borderlightthnxs guys00:43
XKiLL3Ruw00:49
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Elone!hi00:58
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:58
GentooJohnnyok I need someone to help me with a networking problem between two kubuntu pcs01:00
GentooJohnnyI can ping both machines but nothing more. I need to get vnc/rdp/ssh up01:02
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bastiGentooJohnny, did you install sshd and so on?01:10
GentooJohnnysshd provides a shell nothing more yes?01:11
triunelol01:11
triunesorry, thats a bit funny :)01:11
GentooJohnnyit was erm poorly worded01:12
motwhat's the primary difference between nvidia-glx-180 and nvidia-180-kernel-source?01:12
GentooJohnnyssh provides a secure way to access a shell nothing more yes?01:12
bastiit can do some more, but yes01:12
triunethink sftp01:12
triunescp01:13
GentooJohnnyI can't get ftp to connect01:13
triunesftp01:13
moti was using nvidia-180-kernel-source and upgraded using avernard.com's third party repo to 180.41 from 180.11 and X wouldn't boot, told me the nvidia module didn't exist01:13
motany suggestions?01:13
mot(i just installed nvidia-glx-180 but i'm not sure if that's the right thing to do either)01:14
doug_fWhat is the best way to configure dual monitors with a laptop in kubuntu the manager built in doesnt seem to do a very good job.01:14
bastiGentooJohnny, providing error messages and describing a problem more in detail would help a lot01:14
GentooJohnnybasti actually its a good thing I didn't, I have to go right now. thanks for the help bbl01:14
motnobody knows the answer to my question?01:15
doug_fany hints on dual monitors with kubuntu the kde control module doesnt seem to be working very well01:15
musicalhi folks01:20
doug_fWhat is the best way to configure dual monitors with a laptop in kubuntu the manager built in doesnt seem to do a very good job.01:22
musicalthis is the 2nd time a small black spot about 1/4 in in diamter has appeared in the upper right hand corner of my monitor. Whe I pass the mouse across it, it changes to a double arrow! I cannot move it, click on it....anyone has any ideas?01:22
BluesKajmusical, that usually where the add widgets icon is located , but it's supposed to open a list of choices when clicked01:25
musicalyes, its close to the add widgets icon01:26
doug_fany ideas or just manual the xorg.conf file.01:26
musicalthe add widgets icon is there..this spot is close ti it01:28
musicalLast time, when I logged off and on again, it disappeared.01:28
henry_BRI'm using Kubuntu and I'm trying to make PyOpenGL works... But a simple code already doesn't work! The code is here: http://rafb.net/p/XV30Os36.html . Anyone can help me? I have installed mesa... glut3.. freeglut... When code execute: "glutInitDisplayMode (GLUT_DOUBLE | GLUT_RGB | GLUT_DEPTH)" it say: SEGMENTATION FAULT...01:30
musicalI logged of and on and its gone! Its very disconcerting...this time it happend when I was watching a movie01:32
musicaljuts befor that the screen blacked out briefly01:32
musicaljust before it happend01:33
doug_fWhat is the best way to configure dual monitors with a laptop in kubuntu the manager built in doesnt seem to do a very good job.01:37
Gonanyone had problems with NetworkManager plasmoid in jaunty?01:37
doug_fah well time for me to go home too. see ya laterz guys.01:39
* diabu hi01:50
bitterchocshi diabu01:50
rafael__theres a woman here that want to talk with a brazilian guy?01:59
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borderlightive been trying to update kubuntu  7.04 to 8.10, but when i fetch updates from adept, i dont receive any notification telling me there is a version update. i know im running 7.04, could it be a problem with my repositories??02:20
goofeyborderlight: I don;t know the answer, but I do know that ubuntu recommends updating only 1 version at a time (ie, only from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10 rather than 7.04 to 8.10 directly)02:22
jaimicobuenas oches, quisiera saber quien me puede ayudar a instalar el driver atheros para wlan en kubuntu02:24
borderlightalright. is there a special repository needed to get version updates? if so how do i add it02:24
Daskreechjaimico: Hola02:24
Daskreech!es | jaimico02:25
ubottujaimico: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:25
stepnem!es02:25
stepnemDaskreech: :D02:25
Daskreech;-)02:25
Daskreech!upgrade | borderlight02:26
ubottuborderlight: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading02:26
borderlightthank you02:26
katiehello?02:39
katieis anyone here?02:40
Sir-Gon?02:40
katieI've never used this before02:40
stepnem!hi02:41
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:41
katieThanks! (:02:41
* Daskreech waves02:41
katiehehe (:02:41
katieI have an apt-get question, anyone want to give it a shot?02:41
stepnem!ask | katie02:42
ubottukatie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:42
Daskreechnoone knows until you ask it02:42
katieah, okay02:42
katieI think I broke something by downloading something with synaptic...it uninstalled one of my programs (quanta), and now I can't install it again-- I get the message Depends: libxi6 (>= 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu1) but 2:1.1.3-1 is to be installed02:43
katieI googled that and found few hits, and can't uninstall libxi6-- it looks really important02:44
katiei tried -f, and build-dep02:44
dpanariohello02:45
katiehi (:02:45
rosco_yIs anyone using the onboard graphics capabilities of the MSI DKA790GX Platinum Motherboard?02:46
rosco_yhi dpanario02:46
dpanariohi rosco_y02:46
rosco_ywhat's up?02:46
dpanarioi new in linux02:46
Daskreechkatie: what does apt-get -f install say?02:47
rosco_ydpanario: Join the club--I'm a newbie too :)02:47
jtismekatie have you tried  apt-get --reinstall install quanta02:47
dpanariorosco_y:  your webcam works?02:47
Daskreechdpanario, rosco_y, katie: welcome to Kubuntu and linux :)02:47
rosco_yum...I haven't played with my webcam in Linux yet...02:48
dpanariohahah02:48
Daskreech!webcam | dpanario02:48
ubottudpanario: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:48
katie  quanta: Depends: libxi6 (>= 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu1) but 2:1.1.3-1 is to be installed02:48
katie          Depends: klinkstatus (= 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed02:48
katie          Depends: kommander (= 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed02:48
rosco_yI just upgraded my botherboard and CPU, now I'm trying to get everything working the way it was :(02:48
dpanarioubottu: i ve tried that link and many others02:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:48
jtismekatie what did you install with synaptic02:49
dpanarioanyone speak spanish?02:49
katiejtisme: apt-get --reinstall install quanta gives me the same error, that libxi6, klinkstatus, and kommander are needed; the last two give me the error that they need libxi602:49
stepnem!es | dpanario02:49
ubottudpanario: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:49
jtismekatie what did you install with synaptic02:51
katieI'm not sure; I tried to download "secret maryo chronicles" yesterday (: and some other games-- but the installs mostly didn't work02:51
Daskreechkatie: it downloaded but didn't install?02:52
katieI might have tried dist-upgrade02:52
katieI think so02:52
Daskreechok can you pastebin sudo apt-get upgrade ?02:53
katieno, I'm not sure I did dist-upgrade02:53
Daskreech!paste02:53
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:53
katieI really don't know what I did ):02:53
katieah okay02:53
DaskreechThat's ok02:53
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141112/02:54
katie(thanks ubottu)02:56
katiewait, let me try something, I'm going to reboot and come right back02:58
katieokay03:01
katiethat didn't work03:01
katiewhat does this "libxi6 (>= 2:1.1.3-1ubuntu1) but 2:1.1.3-1 is to be installed" mean, anyway?03:02
jtismekatie i gather it means that the system wants  2:1.1.3-1ubuntu1 not 2:1.1.3-103:04
katieso they're different? how do I get the ubuntu one? I try apt-get and it says libxi6 is already the newest03:04
jtismekatie i have never seen the msg these packages have been kept back03:04
katiewhat do you mean? is that an older version that it wants?03:05
katie(no hits on google)03:05
jtismekatie, the 1ubuntu1 is definitely in the ubuntu stream and i suspect the other is not03:06
katiewhat is the ubuntu stream? how do I get this different version without uninstalling the one I've got first?03:06
jtismekatie hold on a sec i am looking at something03:08
katieokay cool03:08
jtismekatie, what version displays when you  execute   dpkg -l  libxi603:09
katie2:1.1.3-103:10
jtismekatie, i am in slightly uncharted waters here but in the past when i encountered those type of conflicts i uninstalled the offending package and reinstalled it03:11
katieyeah i thought about that, except this package is used for everything03:11
jtismemaking sure i got the ubuntu package03:11
katieit would uninstall all my major programs03:11
katie1GB worth of stuff, I'm not even sure my computer would be functional for me03:12
jtismeyeah it is the x extension stuff03:12
jtismekatie, i dont know how to force the ubuntu package to be installed perhaps someone else here does and we would both learn something03:14
katieis there no way I can make this thing use the wrong package?03:15
katieother than install build-dep and install -f?03:15
jtismekatie, i cant answer that question03:16
Daskreechkatie: what does sudo apt-get remove libxi6 say?03:16
Daskreech if it asks to proceed do not let it03:16
katieit give me a really big list of nearly everything i can think of, including stuff that looks like KDE03:17
katiesaying that all of that will be removed with the operation03:17
Daskreechkatie: ok what does apt-cache policy libxi6 say03:19
Daskreechpastebin it03:19
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141122/03:19
Daskreechand what are you trying to install?03:20
katiequanta03:20
katiei'm also having big freezing problems with firefox, and wondering if this has anything to do with it03:21
Daskreechkatie: apt-cache depends quanta03:23
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141123/03:23
Daskreechsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-vga03:25
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141125/03:26
Daskreechwoooah03:27
Daskreechapt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core03:27
katiethat didn't sound good.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/141126/03:27
Daskreechhrrm03:32
Daskreechseems like you are pulling packages from two different repos03:32
Daskreechapt-cache policy quanta03:32
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141127/ -- that might make sense, for a while I had both synaptic and adept and when I used synaptic (the only time I did) it screwed something up with my windows03:33
katieso I've avoided synaptic-- i told you wrong earlier, I've been using adept, not synaptic03:34
Daskreechkatie: the hell?03:35
Daskreechwhat version of the distro are you using?03:35
katiehardy03:35
DaskreechSo why is Quanta coming from the Ibex repos ?03:35
katiei'm a linux newbie, i really don't even know what that means03:35
katiei had quanta for a while, and something uninstalled it automatically03:36
Daskreechkatie it's like one program thinking it's on windows XP when you are on windows 9803:36
Daskreechpaste bin the file /etc/apt/sources.list03:36
katieany idea how i fix it?03:36
Daskreech^^03:36
katiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141131/03:37
Daskreech^_^03:39
DaskreechTell me about the last three lines03:39
katieis that bad?03:39
DaskreechNo just amusing03:39
katieoh, I bet I added the intrepid line this weekend, actually03:39
katieI should have known better on that one03:39
katiewhat's wrong with the other two lines?03:40
DaskreechNothing03:40
cristiani have a disk with two partitions... C: NTSF and D: NTSF and kubuntu is installed like an aplication in windows... in disck D:03:40
Daskreechjust wanted to know the story behind them03:40
Daskreechcristian: You mean NTFS03:40
cristianwith kde3.5 and kubuntu 8.4 dolphin showed me the two partitions...03:40
katieoh the other one, i was just following instructions to get banshee to work for my ipod03:41
Daskreechkatie: comment out the last line and update and you will be fine03:41
cristianbut now with kde 4 and 8.10... only the C: disc03:41
katiei don't really know what i'm doing, i just google things and try them03:41
cristianwhat can i do... other thing that a mount?03:41
DaskreechWould you like me to explain ?03:41
katieto me? (if so, yes)03:41
Daskreechdo you understand main universe multi verse ?03:42
katieeee it's working!!!03:42
katieno, what is that?03:42
DaskreechI know03:42
Daskreech:-)03:42
katieeee that's so awesome!!!03:42
Daskreechok do you know a repository is ?03:42
katiethank you thank you (:03:42
katieyes03:42
katiethat's where apt-get gets its files03:42
jkfreshhowdy folks! anybody know the name of the package that allows you to setup a fake sendmail using your isp's email server to send alerts for mdadm and smartctl?03:42
Daskreechright03:42
Daskreechsendmail ?03:43
katieno, what's that?03:43
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jkfreshit's not sendmail, it's something like fakemail. It has fake in the name.03:43
Daskreechkatie: sorry that was for jkfresh03:43
jkfreshthe os drive in my home nas died, and I am trying to remember what I did almost a year ago to get it setup03:44
katieah okay, sorry03:44
Daskreechkatie: ok Ubuntu has many repositories03:44
katieokay03:44
Daskreechmain restricted universe multiverse03:44
katiethose are types, i guess03:44
katieso i must have told it to go to "intrepid universe"03:44
Daskreechmain are packages that Canonical will support and they have the source code for them03:44
katieokay03:45
Daskreechrestricted is ones they support and they don't have the source code03:45
Daskreechmostly drivers etc03:45
Daskreechuniverse are contributed and maintained by people not associated with canonical03:45
Daskreechand the source is available03:45
katieokay03:45
Daskreechmultiverse is of course not done by canonical and no source is available03:46
Daskreechthat's not fully true03:46
Daskreechsource is available for things in multiverse03:46
Daskreechbut some of them are not legal in certain countries03:46
Daskreech(read broadly as the US)03:46
katiehmmm lol03:47
Daskreechso those are the basic repositories from Ubuntu03:47
Daskreechyou added some more like banshee03:47
Daskreechhowever Ubuntu collects all these packages togetehr as a snapshot in time03:47
Daskreechthat is a release03:47
DaskreechYou are on the release 8.04 codenamed hardy03:48
e-jatcan someone help me on this -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/141134/03:48
Daskreechfor sanity reasons Ubuntu has what is called a "freeze" for releases03:48
katieokay, and I told it to go to an intrepid repository... which was bad because it conflicted with the older hardy version?03:48
Daskreechwhen that happens whatever version of the packages stays03:49
katieokay..03:49
Daskreechwhen you want updated ones beyond security fixes you go to a new release03:49
Daskreechlike 8.10 codenamed intrepid03:49
DaskreechRight so you added a intrepid universe package which needs packages from Main03:50
Daskreechso it called main but main was from hardy so the packages were older03:50
katieah03:50
DaskreechIt knew it needed a package at least X old for it to work and yours was older so it stopped03:50
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Daskreechnothing could move unti that was resolved03:51
Daskreechnow if you had a intrepid main and intrepid universe it would have installed03:51
katiecan you do that?03:52
Daskreeche-jat: what version of Qt ?03:52
Daskreechwell yes03:52
katieif i started my system with hardy, can i upgrade to intrepid without wiping the system?03:52
Daskreechbut as you saw mixing relelases is painful03:52
Daskreechkatie: Oh yes03:52
katieright, that wasn't good03:52
Daskreechthat's how most people do it03:52
katiereally? how do you do it?03:52
Daskreech!upgrade03:53
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading03:53
katiedon't upgrade?03:53
Daskreechkatie: If you like hardy stay on it03:53
katiei do, just curious since there are a couple of new distros now03:53
Daskreechibex is KDE4 which a lot of people don't like03:53
DaskreechUbuntu supports two types of upgrades03:54
Daskreechversion +103:54
Daskreechso from hardy to intrepid03:54
remuHello everyone. I normally use Ubuntu, but I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu. Under ubuntu I used to control my volume using the PCM slider, however, now when I use the PCM slider it doesn't make any difference. When I had kubuntu-desktop installed under my regular ubuntu install, the PCM slider did change the audio.03:54
Daskreechbut not say hardy to jaunty03:54
Daskreechwhich is the next version after intrepid03:54
remuDoes anyone know how I can rectify this problem?03:55
katiegotcha, okay03:55
Daskreechremu: try front03:55
Daskreechfor some people that seems to do what PCM does03:55
Daskreechkatie: you can also do LTS to LTS03:55
rosco_ydoes anyone know how to configure more than one desktop in the Display Manager?03:55
Daskreechrosco_y: right click and set it in the settings03:56
katielts?03:56
remuDaskreech: well, Master, Front, and Headphones do change the audio, but they change it logarithmically (same behaviour in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu), while under Ubuntu PCM changed the volume in a linear fashion.03:56
Daskreechkatie: Hardy is an LTS release so you can wait 4 releases then do a direct upgrade03:56
Daskreech !lts03:56
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.03:56
Daskreechkatie: ^^^03:56
rosco_yDaskreech: Right-click what?03:56
katieah okay, cool03:56
Daskreechrosco_y: the desktop pager on the panel03:57
rosco_yok, I'll give it a whirl03:57
Daskreechkatie: basically for people who hate doing upgrades every few months03:57
DaskreechSome distros have what is called a rolling release which is cool if you want upgrades all  the time :)03:57
katiei see, okay cool03:57
DaskreechYeah it is pretty neat03:58
rosco_yI guess my problem is in the ATI Catalyst Control Center: I'm trying to enable Xinerama03:58
katiethat problem probably didn't have anything to do with firefox freezes then... is there any well-known problem with kubuntu + firefox?03:58
rosco_yit's telling me I need to configure more than one desktop, I have four desktops enabled in the pager...03:58
e-jatDaskreech: 4.5.003:59
e-jatim in Jaunty beta03:59
rosco_yIt doesn't seem like xinerama would care about pager settings...am I missing something?03:59
Daskreechkatie: what kind of freezes03:59
e-jator should i reinstall kopete using package?03:59
Daskreeche-jat: #ubuntu+103:59
e-jatDaskreech: thanks03:59
Daskreechrosco_y: Oh thought you meant virtual desktops03:59
Daskreech!xinerama | rosco_y03:59
katiethat's the problem-- i haven't figured out what triggers the freezes, so it doesn't seem like enough information to google yet03:59
ubotturosco_y: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead03:59
rosco_yDaskreech: Yes, the message is misleading04:00
Daskreechkatie: like you have to kill the application freeze?04:00
remu Under ubuntu I used to control my volume using the PCM slider, however, now when I use the PCM slider it doesn't make any difference. When I had kubuntu-desktop installed under my regular ubuntu install, the PCM slider did change the audio.04:00
katieno, it freezes for around 5-10 seconds and comes back04:00
rosco_yI had it working with my old mobo and cpu, but after upgrading to amd 64, it's not the same anymore04:01
katieit always does it on the google home page when trying to search04:01
rosco_yoh, I know why04:01
Daskreechkatie: Ah might be writing out cache04:01
katieso i wonder if it has something to do with javascript or something04:01
rosco_yI changed video drivers, but I didn't modify the X config file04:01
katie"writing out" cache? meaning caching pages?04:01
DaskreechMozilla did a patch to stop that in 3.1 which I don't think that Hardy has04:01
Daskreechyes04:02
katieshould i try turning cache down to nothing or something?04:02
DaskreechI forget do a google on firefox 3 ext304:02
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katiehmm okay i'll work on the firefox thing then-- hey thank you Daskreech, I appreciate your help04:12
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GeraHi, I'm new to kubuntu and after some strugle I finally installed it on my pc, and after the update I got an error about kernel panic04:17
Geracan someone help me04:17
rosco_yhow can I apply twinview changes (xorg.conf) to my session without rebooting my computer?04:17
ElonetaruGera, what is the error message04:17
Gerait is: Kernel panic -not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block04:18
rosco_yCan anyone tell me how to apply my xorg.conf changes to my kde without rebooting my computer?04:19
rosco_yI'm trying to turn xinerama on, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have to shutdown and restart every time I make a change--or am I wrong about that?04:20
jtismerosco_y, ctrl+alt + backspace will kill and restart the X server and should pick up your changes04:23
rosco_yDoes anyone know what audio drivers I need to install to use the Realtek ALC888 chipset?04:44
rosco_y(all this peace and quiet is driving me nuts)04:45
picketfenceHey, y'all. I have a laptop with a Broadcom 440 wireless card that doesn't want to work with Kubuntu. Any thoughts?04:48
Daskreech!broadcom04:49
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx04:49
picketfenceThank you kindly. :-)04:49
rosco_ycan anyone help me turn my audio on?04:54
Daskreech!sound04:54
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:54
duranmanmy cpu speed is read as dynamic, is there a way for me to configure the frequency?04:58
duranmannevermind :D04:59
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socratesurielcomo estas comunidad ubuntu primera vez que me conecto05:09
Daskreech!es05:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:10
rbuelsi can't get the double-click word highlighting to work correctly in konsole.  it's supposed to highlight across "/" chars, but it's not05:47
rbuelsand the "/" is in the list in the settings05:47
rbuelsthis is konsole_4.1.2-0ubuntu4_i38605:47
lninjoxwhere to go for c++05:48
rbuelsapt-get install build-essential gives you C and C++ compilers05:49
rbuelsand libs and stuff05:49
inanimate_Can you disable the keyboard and mouse (Linux)?05:49
inanimate_I suppose the Linux was unnecessary... Not sure why I put that =).05:50
lninjoxhow to install kubuntu 9 from repository05:50
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Daskreech#cplusplus05:52
Daskreechinanimate_: Plug them out :)05:52
inanimate_Heh... Laptop?05:53
Daskreechinanimate_: Better question then is if you disable the mouse and keyboard how do you renable them then?05:53
inanimate_Yeah, I was thinking about that...05:54
inanimate_I'd say put it on a timer, but not sure if that is even possible. How about just the keyboard?05:54
rbuelsanswered my own question: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18604805:54
rbuelsthat must mean i'm, um, awesome.05:55
Daskreechlninjox: Kubuntu 9 ?05:56
lninjoxyes05:56
lninjox8.10 crashed after some much work setting up error no write access to .ICEauthority? and also how can i recover my files if i cant get in my display05:58
lninjoxanyone else have this problem happen?05:58
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lninjoxnot much in forums tried all listed in ubuntuforums.org06:11
Daskreechlninjox: crashed?06:19
lninjoxonce booted i was able to login and then it threw the error06:23
Daskreechlninjox: ah ok06:29
Daskreechbah06:29
Daskreechyeah it's an easy error to fix06:29
CrypTomhi all, does anyone know how the update manager or update notifier knows, when it is necessary to restart a pc?06:49
CrypTomkernel udpates, that clear06:49
CrypTombut there are other reasons, too06:49
tsimpsonCrypTom: the file /var/run/reboot-required is created06:54
CrypTomtsimpson: cool, thanks, good to now06:55
CrypTomtsimpson: and this is the case on all debian based systems?06:56
tsimpsonCrypTom: should be for all recent versions06:57
CrypTomtsimpson: ok, so its also there on servers withou gui06:58
tsimpsonCrypTom: it should be created by dpkg, but I'm not 100% on that06:59
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CrypTomtsimpson: the package update-notifier-common must be installed, a package needing a reboot calls /usr/share/update-notifier/update-notify-reboot-required which creates the mentioned file07:24
tsimpsonso the postinst calls that07:24
CrypTomtsimpson: yep07:27
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zeltak2Hi, im getting no sound in all my video players (smplayer,vlc, kaffine etc..) under jaunty...any idea why?07:41
bazhang!jaunty07:41
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.07:41
zeltak2thx07:43
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domw888!de10:17
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:17
lokaiI'm trying to compile something from source. I'm running ./configure, and it exits on error: ld cannot find -lncurses10:19
lokaiWhat does that mean? It can't find libncurses?10:19
tsimpsonlokai: means it can find libncurses.so10:22
tsimpsontry libncurses5-dev10:24
lokaitsimpson: There is no flag to specify where libncurses is (It should be standard anyways...)10:24
tsimpsonyou need the -dev package to build with it10:25
lokaioh, ok.10:27
domw888hello, does anybody know how to install a canon mcp190 multifunctional device?10:29
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julia_ex-XP-kmorning @all oder spricht man hier deutsch ;)10:49
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eagles0513875!de julia_ex-XP-k10:49
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:49
eagles0513875!de | julia_ex-XP-k10:49
ubottujulia_ex-XP-k: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:49
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julia_ex-XP-kach ja verstehe. na das ist ja wuunderbar aber englisch ist auch ok.10:51
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julia_ex-XP-kalso funzt das hier so dass man sich miteinander unterghält. weil es sagt ja keiner was10:51
julia_ex-XP-koder ist das nur meine weibliche wahrnehmung ;)))'10:51
eagles0513875julia_ex-XP-k: english please10:52
eagles0513875i dont speak german10:52
julia_ex-XP-kah all right sorry guys10:52
julia_ex-XP-kI just mentioned that I was surprised at the beginning as no one rerally said something10:53
Mamarokjulia_ex-XP-k: for German, go to #kubuntu-de please10:53
eagles0513875julia_ex-XP-k: im in other channels10:53
eagles0513875jumping round10:53
julia_ex-XP-ksorry bloody beginners and in addition blond beginners10:54
julia_ex-XP-kenglish is fine10:54
eagles0513875julia patience is the key if anyone knows the solution to your problem they will help you10:54
Mamarokjulia_ex-XP-k: there actually *is* German support in #kubuntu-de!10:54
julia_ex-XP-kvery smart but I guess that was just my female perception :)10:54
julia_ex-XP-kfor how long do you guys work with kubuntu? for me its the second day *lol*10:55
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: This is a so called support channel ... if nobody needs support, people keep quiet10:55
eagles0513875!offtopic | julia_ex-XP-k10:55
ubottujulia_ex-XP-k: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:55
julia_ex-XP-kI see. Sorry again. I try to get connected to the internet with kubuntu. I use a router an entered the correct IP and gateway in kubuntu but the eth0 is down . andy hints?10:57
eagles0513875are you using the router dhcp to connect to the internet10:58
eagles0513875for me thats what i am doing and it works out of the box10:58
julia_ex-XP-kI use static IPs no DHCP10:59
eagles0513875wwell static ips are bugged in kubuntu as soon as you restart your pc it will revert to looking for a dynamic ip address11:00
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eagles0513875!identify11:01
ubottuYou can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.11:01
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: There are two ways to connect one is with network-manager, which works great with dhcp, the otherway is to remove network-manager and dhclient and use the old way11:01
eagles0513875Riesh: shes new to linux so she might not know the old way11:01
RieshThe old way is with /etc/network/interfaces11:01
Rieshthere is enough documentation about the old way :-)11:02
julia_ex-XP-kright, i'll try the old way. :) back in a sec11:02
Riesheagles0513875: if she want to use static it is the only way11:03
eagles0513875Riesh: well thanks for enlightening me so i remove knetwork manager11:03
eagles0513875and dhclient11:03
Rieshnetwork-manager is nice on a laptop with wireless lan ... but a 'pita' for my the desktop where i want a static IP11:05
julia_ex-XP-kok, if i type /etc/network/interfaces i get a "permission denied" even as root11:05
eagles0513875julia_ex-XP-k: its sudo /etc/network/interfaces up11:05
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: yes ... it is a file you need to opem11:05
eagles0513875that brings the interface online11:05
eagles0513875aahhhhhhh wait ignore me11:05
eagles0513875ill be quiet11:05
Riesh:-P11:05
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: type in konsole "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"11:06
Rieshnano is an editor11:06
julia_ex-XP-kah, right, so i need to open the file and than do waht?11:07
eagles0513875Riesh: question actually in regards to wlans what do u use to connect11:07
julia_ex-XP-kcable lan11:07
RieshSo there in that file you see iface eth0 inet dhcp"11:07
julia_ex-XP-kno, 2 lines:11:08
julia_ex-XP-kauto lo11:08
Rieshnothing with eth0 in it ?11:08
julia_ex-XP-kiface lo inet loopback11:08
julia_ex-XP-kno :(11:08
eagles0513875Riesh: funny thing is mine says the same thing11:08
eagles0513875its like that file isnt even used any more11:09
Rieshaha ... ok ok ... enter after the last line a new empty line and "under" that empty line you type "auto eth0"11:09
Martiiniwhich command to run "gnome system settings" ?11:10
julia_ex-XP-kok, done. now?11:10
RieshThen under that "iface eth0 inet static"11:10
Rieshwithout the quotes (")11:11
eagles0513875!ubuntu | Martiini11:11
ubottuMartiini: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package.11:11
eagles0513875Martiini: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu11:11
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: what IP address your router has?11:11
julia_ex-XP-kok, done. without the quotes. :)11:11
julia_ex-XP-kRouter IP = 10.10.10.111:12
MartiiniI use kubuntu (kde) and would wanna know how to run "gnome system settings"11:12
eagles0513875it should show up under system msettings or what ever11:12
Rieshaha ... under the last line type : " address 10.10.10.2"11:12
eagles0513875morning gnomefreak11:13
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: then under that "netmask 255.255.255.0"11:13
julia_ex-XP-kbeing the IP for this CP, right? becouse I use other PCs in the same network, therefor I guess I should just use a free IP11:13
RieshYes you are right11:14
Rieshaddress is the IP you want to assign for this comp.11:14
julia_ex-XP-kok, done. :) I don't know exactley waht I'm doing but you guys seem to know11:15
eagles0513875Riesh: what do you use to connect to wifi connections instead of knetwork11:15
Rieshunder the netmask line you add another line: "gateway 10.10.10.111:15
Riesheagles0513875: wait a moment :-)11:15
eagles0513875ok11:16
julia_ex-XP-kroger11:16
Riesheagles0513875: you have to set essid and essid password in the interfaces file11:16
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: OK .. now you you can write the changes to the file ...11:17
eagles0513875Riesh: do you use knetwork manager11:17
Rieshthe ^ for an option mean use CTRL and that letter11:17
MartiiniHey, Does anyone know what command run gnome system settings, please ??11:18
Riesheagles0513875: no i don't use ... on my laptop i have network-manager ... and on the desktop i use static IP without wireless11:18
eagles0513875!patience | Martiini11:18
ubottuMartiini: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:18
eagles0513875Riesh: im tryign to connect to mine with knetworkmanager and it doesnt even pick it up11:19
julia_ex-XP-kok, sorry bur i don't know how. I see the ^0 at the bottom for saving, but I dont know how to actually use this command... :(11:19
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: CTRL O is ... write to file11:19
Rieshuse control o11:19
Rieshthen control X11:20
Martiinieagles0513875 just type it when you know .. i dont really support people who waste time on typing triggers on irc11:20
julia_ex-XP-kah, right. ok, done. but control X doesent seem to do anything..11:20
Rieshno capital X11:21
Rieshjust x11:21
julia_ex-XP-kstill, nothing seems to happen.11:22
julia_ex-XP-kwhat is it supposed to do?11:22
Rieshclose this program and give you back the shel prompt11:22
Rieshshell11:22
Rieshit says Exit11:23
s4crificehi, please, i'm new user....... I've downloaded package tar.gz, but..... WTF i have to do with it? google didn't help me, i need help step by step....... any patient person here for this?11:23
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: can it be you have not a englisch keyboard layout ?11:24
julia_ex-XP-khm. I just klickt it close with the mouse and opend the shell again.11:24
ibrarWhat is the command to pull kernel source for kubuntu 8.1011:24
ibrarapt-get install ???11:24
eagles0513875ibrar: apt-get source11:24
julia_ex-XP-kyeah, i use a german keyboard. makes a difference?11:24
SlimeyPeteapt-get source <package name>11:25
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: yes ... many keys are then different :-)11:25
ibrarapt-get source kernel ?11:25
julia_ex-XP-kbut control and x are the same, no?11:26
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: that's why you woiuld probably get betetr support from people in ubuntu-de ..where maybe people are with the same keyboard settings .. anyway ... you are back in the shell?11:26
SlimeyPeteibrar: apt-get source linux-generic will give you the source of the generic kernel, I think11:27
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: not really know where the X is on a german keyboard ... on mine it is between the Z and C11:27
julia_ex-XP-kI like it here. :) yes, back in the shell, feeling very geeky.11:27
ibrarSimeyPete: I need the kernel currently installed with my kubuntu11:27
s4crificeif i write apt-get install <package>, it writes me that the package couldn't be found11:28
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: so not you need to remove the network-manager packages ... and the dhclient packages ... i believe ibrar was here yesterday to tell us the dhclient packages als oneed to be removed11:28
SlimeyPetes4crifice: you have to put the pakcage name in place of <package>11:28
SlimeyPeteibrar: well, what kernel is currently installed? Generic? Server? Virtual?11:29
s4crificei did...11:29
SlimeyPetes4crifice: what package name did you use?11:29
SlimeyPeteand did you use sudo?11:29
SlimeyPetesudo apt-get install thepackage11:29
s4crificeapt-get install hplip-3.9.2.tar.gz11:29
SlimeyPetethat's not a package11:29
SlimeyPete!apt | s4crifice11:29
ubottus4crifice: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:29
julia_ex-XP-kthat sounds easy. :) where can I find 'em?11:29
SlimeyPeteapt isn't for installing tar.gz files11:29
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: "sudo apt-get --purge remove network-manager"11:30
SlimeyPeteapt is for automatically downloading & installing software which is in the Ubuntu repositories11:30
ibrarI have installed default kabuntu11:30
ibrarI got it11:30
SlimeyPeteibrar: then you'll have the generic kernel.11:30
ibrarsudo apt-get install linux-source11:30
Rieshibrar ?11:30
ibrarsI think its generic11:31
s4crificeok wait...11:31
julia_ex-XP-kok, done, no the sam with dhclient, right?,11:32
Riesh ^X Exit                       ^J Justify                    ^W Where Is                   ^V Next Page                  ^U UnCut Text                 ^T To Spell11:32
Riesho o11:32
Riesh:-P11:32
Rieshibrar: can you help julia_ex-XP-k further ... i need to go have dinner11:33
s4crificeok so, how i can install the tar.gz (archive)? unpack the archiv, then?11:33
ibrarok let me read11:33
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: try to see if you can "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"11:34
s4crificelinux is one big unknown for me, but i have to learn with it....11:34
Rieshjulia_ex-XP-k: see if you can "ping 10.10.10.1" after that11:35
julia_ex-XP-kok, back in a sec11:35
ibrarjulia_ex-XP-k: You have to unintsall network-manager and dhcp client11:35
ibrarjulia_ex-XP-k: Otherwise your setting will not work11:35
Rieshthanx ibrar11:35
* Riesh off to eat something 11:36
s4crificeplease... tar.gz - HOW?11:36
julia_ex-XP-kdid uninstall network amanger, but says it cant find dhclient11:36
julia_ex-XP-kand it says "couldn't find command" with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:37
ibrarjulia_ex-XP-k: sudo apt-get install dhcp3-client11:38
julia_ex-XP-kok, done. says its already up2date11:39
ibrarjulia_ex-XP-k: Whats your /etc/network/interface says11:40
ibrarjulia_ex-XP-k: sudo apt-get remove  dhcp3-client11:40
glickhey do i need to install something extra to play .mov files?11:40
eagles0513875Riesh: i need to talk to ya when i get back about the wifi i need lunch atm11:40
julia_ex-XP-ki guess just one space between remove and dhcp3, right?11:41
julia_ex-XP-kworked11:41
glickwhat do i need to play .mov files?11:41
glickdragon player doesnt play anything11:42
julia_ex-XP-ktrying this again now:sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:42
julia_ex-XP-ksays again "command not found"11:42
glickanyone?11:42
ibrarls -l sudo /etc/init.d/networking11:43
ibrarsudo ls -l  /etc/init.d/networking11:44
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julia_ex-XP-ksays no such file in directory11:46
julia_ex-XP-kmaybe if i type the same thing with "pleasse" in front of it11:46
ibrarIt should be there, but can you please tell me what version of ubutu/kubuntu you are using and type your /etc/network/interface file here11:50
julia_ex-XP-kkubuntu 8.1011:51
julia_ex-XP-kwhat shall i do with /etc/network/interface? if i type this command nothing happens11:52
ibrarMeans what you have in this file ?11:52
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ibrar> auto lo11:53
ibrar> iface lo inet loopback11:53
ibrar> auto wlan011:53
ibrar>   iface wlan0 inet static11:53
ibrar>   wireless-essid linksys11:53
ibrar>   address 192.168.2.10411:53
ibrar>   netmask 255.255.255.011:53
ibrar>   gateway 192.168.2.111:53
ibrarI have this11:53
julia_ex-XP-kauto lo11:54
julia_ex-XP-kiface lo inet loopback11:54
julia_ex-XP-kthe rest we put in there before somehow was not saved :(11:54
ibrarAdd again11:56
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ibrarand restart the computer11:56
ibrarbecause you dont have /etc/network/networking command11:56
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ibrarI have installed sudo apt-get install linux-source11:59
ibrarwhere it installed the source code11:59
ibrarcannot see source of kernel in /usr/src (only headers :()11:59
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hiena!md512:01
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:01
hienawhat should i do with this file??12:02
Mamarokhiena: it's to check if the iso you donwloaded is identical to the one on the server12:03
Mamarokusually k3b tests it for you12:03
Mamarokwhen starting to burn the CD/DVD12:03
hienaMamarok do i need to open the md5 file with k3b?12:04
Mamarokhiena: no, the burning software calculates the checksum of the ISO file in the beginning12:05
Mamarokthe md5 file from the server is a simple text file you can open with kate or vim12:05
hienaso i just burn the iso whats all ?? and the k3b will check the md5 file on his own12:06
Mamarokand there you see the checksum you should have if your ISO file is ok12:06
Mamarokyou can see the calculated number in the output when k3b starts, just compare with the one in the *.md5 file12:06
Mamarokif the numers are identical, your ISO image is ok12:07
Mamarokumbers*12:07
hienaahammm12:07
Mamaroknumbers*, sorry12:07
hienathey are a lot12:07
hienavery a lot :D12:07
hienabut since i have the md5 must be the correct one :)12:08
Mamarokhiena: if the ISO file got corrupted during the download the mde5 summ changes12:08
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hienak12:08
hienaunderstand12:08
hienakewl12:09
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picketfenceI have a laptop with a Broadcom 44xx wireless card that doesn't want to work with Kubuntu. I followed the instructions from (!broadcom), but it still won't work.12:10
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Dillizarpicketfence 8.10??12:11
julia_ex-XP-kat etc/network/interfaces the specifications (ip, gateway...) are now saved but after a restart there is still no internet connection :(12:12
picketfenceYes, I'm sorry. It is 8.1012:12
adaptive_hello everybody12:12
Dillizarpicketfence did you had it on when was the 8.10 installing12:12
picketfenceYes. It is internal, and it is recognized by several other distros.12:13
Dillizardamn12:14
picketfenceI know, right?12:14
picketfenceIt's crazy.12:14
zeroone09hai12:14
picketfenceKubuntu will recognize a USB Belkin wireless adapter no problem.12:14
picketfenceBut we are trying to get away from that because the Belkin belongs to his dad.12:15
BumbleBee_TunaAfternoon folks. Why might a usb stick i was using to transfer info between two kubuntu machines become "read only" all of a sudden?12:15
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ibrarAgain: How to pull complete kerel source code curretly installed with 8.10.12:15
adaptive_would you give me the channel list?12:15
BumbleBee_TunaNot only that but the 4gb usb stick says it has 19tb's of data on it! :D12:15
ibrarI want to do somechanges in kernel and want to recompile it12:15
IdhanI have register my nick in irc channel, but.. how can I set the settings in Konvertation to use it?12:16
IdhanAutodentify Service: ?????12:16
picketfenceBBT: I think your computer has lofty dreams.  :-)12:16
picketfence:Idhan: Push F8, then fill in the form.12:18
fireupf8??12:19
picketfence:Idhan: Or in the menu bar, click Settings, then Identify...12:19
fireuppicketfence btw i think 8.04 is the best kubuntu ever made12:20
picketfence<Identities12:20
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picketfence:Dillzar: is there a way to downgrade without losing what little progress we've already made?12:20
Dillizarlol12:20
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Dillizar:D12:20
Dillizardowngrade :D12:21
picketfence:Idhan:Have you found it yet?12:21
Dillizari have tryed but its a lot of work12:21
Dillizarchange kernels and sh***12:21
Dillizari dont like it12:21
Dillizar:D12:21
Idhanyes12:21
picketfence:Dillzar:eww.....12:21
Idhanpicketfence: yes12:21
picketfence:Dillzar:So we are basically SOL?12:22
Idhanpicketfence: well, says : Auto Identify12:22
Dillizarpicketfence you will not have KDE4.2.2 but you will have a good OS12:22
Dillizardude picketfence what chat client are ya using ??12:23
picketfence:Idhan:At Auto Identify, type nickserv for the Service, then your password. Click OK, and you're done! :-)12:23
picketfence:Dillzar:Konversation12:23
Dillizarhmm why you put : infront of my nick LD it looks like a smilie12:24
Dillizar:D12:24
picketfenceLOL12:24
picketfenceSorry, it's habit.12:24
picketfenceDillzar:I just noticed something. I'm actually using Kubuntu 9.04 Beta. :-(12:24
picketfenceDillzar:I didn't even realize that until just now.12:25
picketfenceDillzar:Konversation 1.1 (Using KDE 3.5.10)12:25
Idhanpicketfence: thanks a lot !12:26
Dillizarpicketfence how the hell are ya using kde 3.5.10 on 9.04??12:26
picketfence:Idhan:Anytime I can help. :-)12:26
picketfenceDillzar:I don't know! I just downloaded the ISO, burnt it, and used it!12:27
picketfenceDillzar:KDE 3.5.10 comes with Kubuntu 9.04 Beta, I guess.12:27
kakemanis there a way to get kde3.5 to freshest kubuntu?12:27
bazhangpicketfence, no it does not.12:28
picketfenceOh, wait, I did a lot of upgrade packages. That might have been it.12:28
picketfenceMy laptop works just fine, obviously, since that's what I'm using now.12:28
picketfenceHang on, let me fire up the other laptop and see what it's running on.12:28
picketfenceIs KDE3.5.10 not a good thing on Kubuntu 9.04 Beta?12:29
kakemani like it12:29
picketfenceWait a minute...... at the loadup screen, it says KDE 4.1 .......????12:30
kakemanthere is something wrong now12:31
kakemani quess12:31
picketfenceI'm just getting more and more confused......12:32
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=== reddragon is now known as reddragon2005
picketfenceTommy? How did you get on?12:33
reddragon2005hey y cant i make this thing work12:33
reddragon2005hi brad12:33
picketfenceI'm trying to find an answer, tom. Stick around, we could use info from your laptop.12:34
picketfenceI think....12:34
reddragon2005wats wrong with it? i had to use the cord12:35
picketfenceDillzar: Is the bot in here?12:35
picketfenceWell, I'll just try it. reddragon2005, read this12:36
picketfence!broadcom12:36
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx12:36
picketfenceClick the link12:36
* Idhan is away: Gone away for now12:37
reddragon2005it did nothig12:37
reddragon2005wait12:37
reddragon2005something called konqerer came up and went away12:38
picketfenceWent away?12:38
picketfenceYou mean it closed down?12:38
reddragon2005ya12:38
picketfenceWell, click the K menu bottom left corner, then click Konquerer. Type in the link in the address bar.12:39
kakemanhttp://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ woo12:39
kakeman>12:39
reddragon2005u mean web browser12:40
picketfenceYeah, that too. :-)\12:40
reddragon2005wers terminal12:41
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picketfenceK menu, System, at the bottom12:42
Rieshreddragon2005: ALT F2 > konsole  <enter>12:42
reddragon2005k got12:42
reddragon2005keewl12:43
picketfence:Riesh:I just learned something myself. :-)12:43
Riesh:-) ... thats good12:43
reddragon2005witch ubuntu do i click12:45
picketfenceWhat do you mean?12:45
reddragon2005hardy gutsy fiesty dapper12:45
picketfenceOh, right. Good question.12:46
picketfence:Riesh: If we are using Kubuntu, which Ubuntu flavor do we go by?12:47
Rieshtype in console lsb_release -rd12:47
reddragon2005ubuntu 8.1012:48
picketfenceSame here12:48
RieshThats "Intrepid Ibex"12:48
picketfenceBut that's not a choice on that webpage.12:49
picketfenceThat's why I was asking.12:49
Rieshso choose the newest and pray it will work :-)12:49
Rieshwhich webpage ...12:49
Rieshand what you try to get workign?12:49
reddragon2005yah i hope12:49
picketfence!broadcom12:49
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx12:49
picketfenceThat one.12:49
reddragon2005by the way my screen sayd 4302 if you need to kno12:50
* Idhan is back.12:50
picketfenceOk, we might be able to use that later, if I can figure out how to fix it.12:51
picketfencereddragon, I know you're plugged in, but bring your laptop downstairs.12:51
reddragon2005y12:51
picketfenceBecause I can't work on it if it's up there......12:51
reddragon2005o12:51
reddragon2005good point12:51
picketfence:Riesh: Any thoughts?12:52
Rieshseems you need to use some software to cut the firmware out of a proprietary package12:52
picketfence:Riesh: Would that be the fw-cutter tool for bcm43xx?12:53
RieshYes12:53
Rieshyou can install that with apt-get12:53
picketfence:Riesh: Ok, I'll try that when he gets the computer down here.12:54
RieshOK12:55
picketfence:Riesh: What's the name of the package I have to apt-get?12:55
Rieshsudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter12:55
picketfence:Riesh: Thanks. I'll do that and let you know how it goes.12:56
picketfenceUm.....what command do I use once I have it?12:56
Rieshpicketfence: i am not sure ... :-) ... never had to do this ...12:57
Rieshgoogle it12:57
picketfenceI'll be back whether it works or not to let you know. Thanks!12:58
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picketfenceProblems upon problems13:17
picketfenceb43-fwcutter didn't install properly, and the website wasn't much help13:17
picketfenceAnd now I have another question.13:18
picketfenceAdept updater wants me to install a linux-restricted-modules generic thingy, along with other linux-image generic thingy.13:18
picketfenceShould I?13:18
picketfenceOh, and linux-headers, tool13:19
picketfencetoo.13:19
DennisBagleymorning all - does anyone have 2 mins to answer somq questions on radeonhd ?13:20
eagles0513875picketfence: yes install restricted modules linux image and headers13:20
eagles0513875thats an updated kernel picketfence13:21
picketfenceOk. thx13:21
eagles0513875i have used b43-fwcutter no problems13:21
picketfenceWould that one allow the Broadcom?13:21
picketfence:eagles0513875:I don't know much, but I can share my limited experience. What's your question?13:22
eagles0513875picketfence: use it if ur broadcom wifi card is a bcm43xx model to check in bash type lspci and if it is install it using the hardware driver manager under system that will find any restricted drivers from your wifi card to video card13:22
eagles0513875picketfence: im having issues connecting to my wifi network here at home13:22
eagles0513875knetwork manager is fudged13:22
picketfence:eagles:Join the club. ;-) How far can you get with it?13:23
eagles0513875nowhere13:23
eagles0513875im on wired13:23
eagles0513875im working on asking in some other channels im in13:23
eagles0513875its not a problem with the driver i know that for sure its a problem with knetwork manager13:23
picketfenceOooh, sorry. The radeon I used at least had minimal connection.13:23
eagles0513875radeon = video13:24
picketfenceOh, hang on a sec...13:24
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picketfenceSorry about that. Had to reboot.13:27
picketfenceWhere was I?13:27
eagles0513875you should be able to connect to your wifi network but need to find another network manager to use13:29
eagles0513875!wifi13:29
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:29
eagles0513875!network13:29
eagles0513875picketfence: i would look in adept for a network manager alternative13:30
picketfenceI'll do that after the updates are done.13:30
picketfenceI was hoping the updater would help as well.13:30
eagles0513875im as updated as they come im on jaunty and still nothing13:31
picketfenceHow can I tell which one I'm on?13:31
picketfenceAll I know is Ubuntu 8.1013:32
picketfenceRunning KDE 9.04 Beta with either KDE 3.5.10 or 4.113:32
picketfenceI'm all confused about that.13:32
eagles0513875picketfence: it comes with 4.213:33
picketfenceOn my loadup splash screen it has KDE4.113:34
eagles0513875picketfence: are you on intrepid13:35
eagles0513875or the beta of jaunty13:35
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picketfenceI'm not sure. How do I find out?13:35
eagles0513875if in adept you enable the pre released repo and unsupported stuff and source and all that you be upgraded to 4.213:35
eagles0513875!version | picketfence13:35
ubottupicketfence: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »13:35
picketfenceIntrepid13:36
picketfenceUbuntu 8.1013:36
anw2how can I make system to poweroff (and not prompting) after I press shutdown button (on keyboard) ...13:37
cinexanw2 its in the settings panel13:38
eagles0513875picketfence: you will be on 4.1 but you can get 4.213:38
eagles0513875in adept you have to enable the pre relase repos and what not13:38
picketfenceBut isn't that risky?13:39
fireuppicketfence you said you are on9.04??13:39
cinexaw2 are you using kde3 ?13:40
cinexanw2: are u using kde3?13:40
anw2yop | cinex13:40
picketfenceI thought I had downloaded that one. Let me check to be sure.13:40
fireuplol13:40
cinexin system settings click the advanced tabs and then go to session manager13:40
cinexyou can turn of the prompt there13:40
cinexuntick confirm logout and untick offer shutdown options13:41
eagles0513875picketfence: you can upgrade via internet its on the kubuntu website on how to do that13:41
anw2now it shows window with only "Log out" button | cinex13:41
cinexunticke confirm logout13:42
cinex?13:42
picketfenceOh, never mind. I guess I'm running Kubuntu 8.1013:42
picketfenceI thought I had gotten the beta.13:42
anw2unticked: confirm logout, unticked: offer s/d options13:42
cinexand there is a defualt shutdown option needs to be turn of computer (for a guess)13:42
fireuppicketfence you want to change your kde??13:42
fireupsudo apt-get update13:43
picketfenceNo, not really. my laptop works just fine.13:43
fireupthen sudo apt-get kde413:43
picketfenceMy friend's computer, however, doesn't want to connect to wireless.13:43
picketfenceThat's the one we are trying to fix.,13:43
eagles0513875mine doesnt connect either13:43
cinexmine does13:43
eagles0513875knetwork manager is bugged like no other13:43
eagles0513875not only does the wifi not work it doesnt keep a static ip13:43
picketfenceI can't get b43-fwcutter properly13:43
fireuppppoe ppl pppoe the best internet for now :)13:44
cinexu can use the gnome network manager though.... has better 3g support i found13:44
eagles0513875cinex 3g O_O13:44
cinexthe gnome one auto sets it up13:44
cinexi was super shocked13:44
cinexit was awesome13:44
eagles0513875cinex: it didnt do anything for me13:44
anw2grr ... damn kde, returning to gnome13:45
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cinexanw2 at the login screen ?13:45
picketfenceI wonder if Kubuntu 9.04 beta would be better for his computer after all...13:45
eagles0513875cinex: it didnt connect to my wifi :(13:45
cinexeagles0513875: do u have an odd wifi card?13:45
fireupanw_reallyaway lol13:45
anw_reallyawaydefault shutdown options disappear when I untick those option13:45
fireupok what the f*** is happening to ubuntu13:46
fireupits ony getting worst13:46
fireuponly13:46
eagles0513875cinex: this laptop is a broadcom and in it it has funnily enough the same model card as as my 4 yr old laptop a bcm4311 wifi card13:46
fireupi have used 7.10 since 2months ago13:46
eagles0513875i know my network though is using wpa213:46
cinexanw_reallyaway: it should make you computer just do whatever you want when you push the power button. you may need to edit acpi settings too (ther eis a file somewhere) for laptops i think13:46
fireup8.04 MAXIMUM 8.10 9.04 BADD13:46
picketfenceGotcha.  ;-)13:47
fireupthe cover i think13:47
cinexusing the b43 driver eagles0513875 ?13:47
eagles0513875ya i used the hard ware devices that detects restricted drivers13:47
eagles0513875i installed the proprietary wifi driver13:47
eagles0513875there was the driver that picketfence mention should i use that instead13:48
cinextry seeing if aircrack-ng can use it :P13:48
eagles0513875O_O13:48
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picketfenceThe really strange part of this whole adventure is I had used Kubuntu on his computer before and it connected with little problem. Now it seems to just be plain stubborn.13:48
eagles0513875y crack my own wifi when i know the key13:48
cinexeagles0513875: i dunno, but if you can, then the card works; right?>13:49
Dillizarpicketfence and the version you were using the last time was???13:49
eagles0513875i know i could connect on my old laptop13:49
eagles0513875using knetwork13:49
picketfenceKubuntu 8.10, same as now13:49
picketfenceIt's the only ISO I downloaded and am using13:50
picketfence.......for now.13:50
picketfenceBroadcom is just being a pain, because several distros of Linux (Slackware 12.2 included) are refusing to use Broadcom.13:51
picketfenceBut on my laptop, with Atheros, all of them work just fine.13:51
picketfence...with the exception of Slackware, but that's beside the point.13:51
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* Dillizar slaps picketfence13:52
Dillizarbuy a new laptop or a new kubuntu :P13:52
* picketfence cries softly13:52
Dillizarjust kidding13:53
picketfence;-)13:53
Dillizarso did you tried13:53
picketfenceI really wish I could chuck his computer into the river13:53
Dillizar#network13:53
anw2is there any difference between poweroffing with "$ shutdown -P now" and KDE's poweroff button ??13:53
Dillizar#networks13:53
picketfenceyeah. No help there.13:53
Dillizarhmm13:53
Dillizaryou have a wifi13:53
Dillizarand it doesnt work13:54
Dillizarright13:54
picketfenceIt seems that every suggestion I am given comes up short of working properly.13:54
picketfenceI just thought of something. Could it be that the Broadcom card itself went bad?13:54
Rieshpicketfence: did you add cafuego's repos ?13:54
anw2i mean, if I comment out all KDE's actions in /acpi/powerbtn.sh and leave only shutdown command, would it be system-harmless ?13:54
picketfence:Riesh: No, simply because I have no clue where they are.13:55
Dillizarpicketfence as i have been here for few hours13:55
Rieshhttp://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/intrepid-cafuego13:55
Dillizari didnt understand the problem13:55
Rieshadd that to your source list13:55
picketfence:Riesh: I'll do that.13:56
Rieshand then apt-get update and apt-get install broadcom13:56
picketfenceDillzar: His wireless card worked before, then as I switched from Winblows to Ubuntu to Kubuntu, it got harder and harder to use the Broadcom13:56
RieshThat will install the firmware you need to use with the fwcutter software13:56
* anw2 13:57
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picketfence:Riesh: I'll get right on that right after his computer finishes its current updates.13:57
RieshOK13:57
Dillizarpicketfence so the kubuntu cant regonize the card??13:57
picketfence:Riesh: Incidentally, where do I add that url?13:57
picketfenceDillzar: Correct.13:57
Guest33665hello guys13:57
picketfenceDillzar: It is connected now only by Ethernet13:57
Rieshpicketfence: you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list13:58
Guest33665could anybody tell me the funktion of the signs "+" and "-" in the folder symbols13:58
Rieshand then add the URLs which are described on that page13:58
Rieshdeb     http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ intrepid-cafuego all13:58
picketfence:Riesh: I have to sudo gedit that, right?13:58
Rieshdeb-src http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ intrepid-cafuego all13:58
RieshYes13:59
DillizarGuest33665 what? one the folder icon you have + - ??13:59
Rieshor any other editor13:59
Rieshbut with sudo13:59
Guest33665@Dillizar, in the left upper corner are symbols. "+" and "-" if i click with the mouse, i can switch them13:59
picketfence:Riesh: The webpage warns not to add all, but be selective so Kubuntu doesn't break. Your thoughts on that?14:00
Guest33665for example in Konqueror14:00
Dillizargimme a screen shot Guest3366514:00
Rieshdo not install all the packages from that page ... you only ned broadcom14:00
Rieshneed14:00
picketfence:Riesh: I understand now. I'm adding the urls now.14:01
Rieshif you have it working later, then maybe can comment out these lines in sources.list14:01
DillizarGuest33665 http://picpaste.com/14:01
Guest33665file:///home/peter/Bilder/Bildschirmfoto1.png14:02
Guest33665sorry14:02
Dillizarca va14:02
picketfence:Riesh: Strange - "sudo: gedit: command not found"?????14:02
eagles0513875cinex: on your wifi network what protocol are you using14:03
eagles0513875im using wpa214:03
eagles0513875and doesnt seem to work with knetwork i dont think14:03
DillizarGuest33665 go to the website i gave you a link14:03
Guest33665http://picpaste.com/Bildschirmfoto1.png14:03
Dillizarand past the pic14:03
Dillizarthanks14:03
Rieshpicketfence: sudo kate14:03
Guest33665sorry, copy and paste to the wrong window14:03
picketfencegot it, thx14:03
Rieshyour using kde so use a kde editor and not a gnome one :-)14:03
DillizarGuest33665 lol14:03
DillizarGuest33665 ok14:04
picketfence:Riesh: Where exactly do I add the urls?14:04
Guest33665i mean the green "+" in the upper left corner14:04
cinexwould it be a bad idea for 2 operating systems (one in a virtual machine) to share the same home parition at the same time ?14:04
Dillizaryou dont want to have it ??14:04
Rieshjust at the bottom14:04
DillizarGuest33665 go to mouse and keyboard and put double clikc :D14:04
Guest33665i dont know for what these are?!14:04
Dillizari think they are there because you use one click to open a window14:04
eagles0513875need to reboot me machine14:05
eagles0513875brb14:05
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fyl0nAsus 1000H WIFI isn't working by default with Beta 9.04.. Is this normal??14:05
Guest33665i use doubleclick to open14:05
picketfence:Riesh: Ok, they are added. Now what do I do? Just update?14:05
Dillizar!jaunty > fyl0n14:05
ubottufyl0n, please see my private message14:05
Rieshsudo apt-get update ...14:05
Rieshto get the contents of this repo in you package cache14:06
DillizarGuest33665 sorry i dont like kde 4.2 i have them too but i dont care why they are there :P14:06
Rieshafter that sudo apt-get install broadcom14:06
Dillizarbut nothig crucial14:06
* Dillizar is not spelling very good a lot today14:07
picketfence:Riesh: I'll have to wait to do that, then. His computer is still updating.14:07
Guest33665Dillizar, noproblem. I think they have only function if you use one-click14:07
Dillizarnow they are gone14:07
Rieshaha ... ok .. what exact version card you have ?14:07
Dillizarsince you put double click??14:07
DillizarGuest33665??14:07
picketfence:Riesh: I believe it is Broadcom 430214:08
eagles0513875Riesh: whats the command to take a device up and down14:09
RurouniJonesifup / ifdown for network cards14:09
eagles0513875thanks RurouniJones for some reason drawing a blank on that14:10
picketfence:Riesh: Will you be here for a while?14:10
Riesheagles0513875: "ifup wlan0" i think .... not sure what interface it will make when using the module14:10
eagles0513875Riesh: thanks14:10
cinexalso: iwconfig down wlan014:11
cinex?>14:11
cinexor14:11
Riesheagles0513875: or otherwise can try with /etc/init.d/networking restart| stop | start14:11
eagles0513875for some reason Riesh my wifi is showing up ass eth1 OO_O not sure if its the proprietary driver im using from the hardware drivers list14:11
cinexiwconfig stop14:11
eagles0513875i need to change drivers on mine its not workin right14:11
cinexeagles0513875: ndiswrapper?14:11
eagles0513875cinex: no need14:11
picketfence:Riesh: I'll be back within the hour to let you know how things went.14:12
Rieshpicketfence: i'll hang a round  for a while14:12
eagles0513875there is a reverse engineered driver b43-fwcutter for my card and it works for me14:12
eagles0513875Riesh: im having the similar issue but with connecting to my wifi14:12
cinexthe fwcutter is the firmware extractor14:12
cinexb43 is the driver14:12
eagles0513875cinex: thats enough to get it to work14:12
eagles0513875im on the proprietary driver right now and its not working right14:12
eagles0513875hi BluesKaj welcome to the connective chaos room14:12
eagles0513875brb guys14:13
RieshThere are two bw43 modules ...... one bw43 and one bw43_legacy14:13
eagles0513875nice just noticed that hardware drives app found my 56k modem14:13
BluesKaj'Morning Folks14:13
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eagles0513875Riesh: this is a 1 yr old machine14:13
Rieshdepends on which firmware you take ... which kernel module you have to use14:14
eagles0513875how accurate is hardware drivers in picking that up14:14
eagles0513875there is a proprietary version Riesh would installing that in addition to the firmware do anything14:15
eagles0513875brb gonna reboot14:15
Chiselhuk_plus1Wot program can I use to run .3gp file in Ubuntu?14:23
cinexmplayer14:23
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cinexChiselhuk_plus1: you have to dump the contents first14:23
cinexsomething like14:23
Chiselhuk_plus1cinex: Why can it never be simple!! lol14:23
ibrarvlc can play that file14:23
cinexmplayer -dumvideo -dumpfile 3gpvideo; mplayer 3gpvideo <filename.3gp>14:23
cinexits dumpvideo14:24
cinexno dumvideo14:24
Chiselhuk_plus1cinex: Are u insinuating I'm dumb? :P14:24
cinexlol14:24
eagles0513875!offtopic | Chiselhuk_plus114:24
ubottuChiselhuk_plus1: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:24
cinexthose commands are probably wrong but a quick look through the man file (use konqueror its huge) will let you find the right ones14:25
eagles0513875Riesh: im back14:25
Chiselhuk_plus1cinex: And can I just say u guys rock over  #ubuntu!! They are unhelpful 'n just ignore me!14:25
cinextsk tsk14:25
eagles0513875now my wifi is showing wlan0 not eth1 like before14:25
cinexsounds promising eagles051387514:25
RieshHmmm ... sounds more like a wireless lan14:26
Riesh:-)14:26
eagles0513875funny thing is i dont think i have the firmware or the proprietary driver installed14:26
eagles0513875Riesh: it was the proprietary drive thats in hardware drivers14:26
cinexeagles0513875: u need b43 and then run fwcutter14:26
Riesheagles0513875: sorry, but i not really know how it all works with this broadcom chips14:27
eagles0513875Riesh: its ok14:27
Rieshhaving a Intel chip in my laptop myself14:27
eagles0513875cinex: i must install the the proprietary drive and the firmware14:27
cinexeagles0513875: no you musn't14:28
eagles0513875the proprietary driver is outa the question14:28
eagles0513875cuz that was what was turning it into eth114:28
picketfence:Riesh: I'm seriously thinking about chucking his computer into the river and let the fishes deal with it.14:28
cinexsudo modprobe b43; sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter14:28
eagles0513875picketfence: lol wait i might be onto something14:28
Riesheagles0513875: i think you need to get the firmware and cut out of that a piece you need to use with the kernel module bw4314:28
cinexshould be all u need14:28
eagles0513875i already have the firmware installed14:29
eagles0513875the issue now becomes with connecting to a network14:29
eagles0513875knetworkmanager is fudged up the backside14:29
cinexwhen u install fw-cutter it should ask you if u want to download and extract the driver firmware: say yes14:30
cinexif it doesn't ask14:30
cinextry ls -l /lib/firmware14:30
cinexand see if u walready have it14:30
cinextry ls -l /lib/firmware/b4314:30
BluesKajeagles0513875 , what router are you running ?14:30
cinexdoes it connect without encryption ?14:30
eagles0513875cinex: it did14:30
cinexare u using wep ?14:30
eagles0513875BluesKaj: linksys14:30
eagles0513875cinex: wpa214:31
cinexis the essid hidden ?14:31
picketfenceI certainly hope so. Whatcha got?14:31
picketfence:Riesh: Are you available? I have a question about what happened when I did what you suggested.14:31
RieshYes ... what happened ?14:31
eagles0513875cinex: it finds it fine on windows and mac14:31
cinexyou CAN connect manually without knetworkmanager14:31
cinexis it hidden ?14:31
eagles0513875no14:31
eagles0513875how can i manually connect with out it14:31
cinexsudo iwlist scan14:32
BluesKajeagles0513875 , check you router's frequency , make sure it's not set to auto select , normal setting is usually channel6 on most LANs14:32
eagles0513875BluesKaj: that i know its not14:32
cinexu manually connect, i believe with the iwconfig command14:32
cinexlike, iwconfig wlan0 essid "name"14:32
cinexyou will have to look into that14:32
cinexit gets alittle complicated14:32
picketfence:Riesh: GPG error: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net intrepid-cafuego Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 81600957AF425CB514:32
cinexwith encryption and stuff14:33
eagles0513875whats the command to bring an interface up again14:33
cinexiwconfig start wlan0 ?14:33
cinexor the ifup wlan014:33
Riesheagles0513875: because ubuntu is for a big part based on debian, their docs also work in ubuntu ... mostly :-P14:33
Rieshhttp://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant14:33
cinexiwconfig wlan0 start14:33
cinexalso, is your network card switched off?14:33
eagles0513875i think it is14:33
Rieshpicketfence: annoying he did not mention on his page14:33
picketfence:Riesh: Agreed.14:34
cinexthe iwconfig doesnt work14:34
stepnemiwconfig wlan0 up14:34
cinexbut do: sudo iwlist scan14:34
eagles0513875how can i swithc it on14:34
eagles0513875ty Riesh14:34
cinexeagles0513875: some have actual physical switches on the laptop (to turn off the antenna14:35
cinex)14:35
eagles0513875there is but i cant tell if it is on or off its staying one color for me14:35
cinexis it finding it with a scan ?14:35
cinexsudo iwlist scan14:35
eagles0513875it saying wlan0 is down14:35
Rieshpicketfence: the key he uses is on his front page14:35
picketfence:Riesh: Where? I don't see it.14:36
cinexiwconfig14:36
Rieshright upper corner14:36
cinexdoes that show your device?14:36
eagles0513875cinex: yes14:36
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picketfence:Riesh: All I see in the upper right corner is a search box with Title and Text options14:37
Rieshon http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/14:37
picketfence:Riesh: oh, hang on.14:38
cinexwhat mode is it in ?14:38
picketfence:Riesh: Now I see it. But where do I type it?14:38
Rieshwget -q http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/cafuego.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update14:39
Rieshin a terminal14:39
eagles0513875cinex: its managed do i need to change it14:39
cinexno14:40
picketfence:Riesh: what does the "-O-" do?14:40
Rieshuuh ... send the output through the pipe (|) ?14:41
mareczkehi, i cannot add any printer in kde 4.2.1 can you helpme?14:41
Riesh:-) don't know ... this how it works with medibuntu14:41
eagles0513875cinex brb need a pit stop14:41
Rieshcopied the command from there14:41
picketfence:Riesh: I hit enter, and it's working.14:41
picketfence:Riesh: Correction --done14:41
cinexsudo ifconfig wlan0 down14:42
cinexsudo ifconfig wlan0 up14:42
picketfence:Riesh: Now I do the sudo apt-get install broadcom, right?14:42
Rieshok ... apt-get install broadcom14:42
Rieshsudo ... b4 that yes14:42
picketfence:Riesh: "E: Couldn't find package broadcom"14:43
picketfence:(14:43
Rieshmmm ... apt-cache search broadcom ? gives which output ?14:43
jpedrozaGood morning everyone. I am still having an issue where my laptop, an MSI 1719, thinks that the batter has reached critical level and shuts down, even though there are more than 3 hours of battery time left. I have tried everything I have found in Google, and can't seem to pin the issue down.14:43
eagles0513875cinex: im back14:43
cinexjpedroza: it is possible to tell kubuntu not to do anything when it thinks the battery is flat14:44
cinexand it will run untill it dies14:44
jpedrozacinex: I have set it to do nothing, it still gives me the message and powers down.14:44
RieshBut picketfence, i think other can be more helpfull, because they have the same hardware or had the same issues14:44
eagles0513875jpedroza: are you running intrepid or the jaunty beta14:45
cinexis there a setting int he bios? where did you set it ?14:45
picketfence:Riesh: (several lines to come)b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firemware14:45
jpedrozaeagles0513875: Intrepid14:45
eagles0513875just making sure14:45
eagles0513875!pastebin | picketfence14:45
ubottupicketfence: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)14:45
jpedrozacinex: The only setting is to enable acpi or disable it, nothing else.14:45
eagles0513875cinex im gonna go check to see if its enabled in the bios brb14:45
picketfence:Riesh: bcm5700-source - module source for Broadcom's bcm5700 ehternet driver14:45
cinexerm, you see the battery monior on the tasktray ?14:45
picketfenceoh14:45
cinexdouble click it.t here is a setting there14:45
jpedrozacinex: IT is set to do nothing14:46
picketfence:Riesh: b43-firmware - Broadcom b43 firmware14:46
picketfence:Riesh: That's all; those three lines.14:46
cinexwell then, you need to find out which program is shutting it down14:46
Rieshaaaah ... seems that last one you need14:46
Rieshsudo apt-get install  b43-firmware14:46
jpedrozacinex: I have the output of lshal -m, but all it shows is the battery being removed and then it shuts down with no further output.14:47
cinexjpedroza: try booting into a text only enviroment and see if it still shuts down after 5 mins14:47
cinexoh14:47
cinexso your battery is being disconnected?14:47
picketfence:Riesh: Working...14:47
jpedrozacinex: It shows as being removed, but it is still present and powering the laptop. That is what is so confusing.14:47
cinexjpedroza: have you tried an oldeer version of kubuntu ?14:48
RieshBut seems cinex and eagles0513875know more about this specific hardware ... and how to make it work14:48
cinexRiesh: broadcom cards are easy (usually)14:48
picketfencehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141433/14:49
Rieshcinex: just need to hack out some firmware part out of binary drivers to talk to the kernel module? :-)14:49
jpedrozacinex: I tried Jaunty on the same laptop, in the alpha 3 stage, and the issue cleared up. I think it might be a kernel issue, as there was a similar bug in Hardy14:49
cinexRiesh: b43-fwcutter deals with all that.14:49
picketfence:Riesh: that link is what showed up on my screen.14:49
cinexjpedroza: do u have an older kernel to fall back on?14:49
picketfence:cinex: I hope you don't mind I start paying attention to your convo, because I'm about to throw the laptop into the river with the fishes.14:50
cinexpicketfence: your laptop ?14:50
cinexi thought it was eagles laptop14:50
picketfence:cinex: No, my laptop works just fine. I'm on it now. It's a friend of mine who has the broken laptop.14:50
picketfence:cinex: No, I don't know eagles14:51
RieshOKOK ... ... cinex ... can you please show picketfence the path to enlightement :-) ... i do not have broadcom hardware and do not know what to do with this packages14:51
cinexwith a broadcom problem ?14:51
picketfence:cinex: most definitely14:51
cinexlsmod |grep b4314:51
picketfence:cinex: in a terminal, right?14:51
cinexyeah14:51
jpedrozacinex: Let me check and see what prev. kernels I still have.14:51
picketfence:cinex: Do I have to sudo?14:51
cinexprobably14:51
Rieshpicketfence: if no output, do: "sudo modprobe bw43"14:52
cinexnot bw14:52
cinextry b43 first14:52
Rieshah14:52
Rieshsorry14:53
cinexthere is like 314:53
cinexunless you've looked it up on the website?14:53
Rieshno14:53
cinexhttp://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supportedchiptypes14:53
cinexeagles0513875:14:54
cinexhttp://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supportedchiptypes14:54
picketfencehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/141435/14:55
cinexmine is a 431214:55
eagles0513875where do u get the patches from cinex14:55
eagles0513875mine is a 4311 rev 214:55
cinexeagles0513875: supported with b43 ?14:55
picketfence:cinex: the paste is what showed up after lsmod |grep b4314:55
cinexok14:56
cinexpicketfence: do this: lspci -vnn | grep 14e414:56
picketfence:Riesh: sudo modprobe b43 returned nothing14:56
cinexpicketfence: it is already loaded14:56
eagles0513875ya its a supported chip time cinex but it says bcm4311 rev 2 / bcm4312 (needs patches for 2.6.24)14:56
Rieshpicketfence: i said "if no output" :-) ....14:56
Rieshseems you clearly got output14:57
* picketfence feels sheepish14:57
picketfencesorry14:57
Riesh:-)14:57
Rieshnp14:57
Rieshno output means the module is not loaded14:57
Rieshit seems it is loaded ... so no need to load it again14:57
picketfence:cinex: What are you looking for? I have a Network controller and an Ethernet controller, both Broadcom. Should I paste the output from that?14:57
eagles0513875just found broadcom irc channel from the site cinex gave me14:58
cinex03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312] (rev 02)14:58
eagles0513875im gonna go in there14:58
picketfence:Riesh: Ok, I understand. I'm still learning this. :-)14:58
cinexis mine picketfence14:58
eagles0513875picketfence: channel is #bcm-users14:58
cinex [14e4:4312] <-- need that bit14:58
eagles0513875picketfence: feel free to follow me in there14:59
cinexthere is always bcm43xx14:59
picketfence02:04.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4320] (rev03)14:59
picketfence:eagles0513875: I'll be there in a bit. Thx! :-)14:59
eagles0513875no prob14:59
eagles0513875cinex thanks for the site15:00
picketfence:cinex: Is that good or bad?15:00
eagles0513875just have to find where to get the patches15:00
cinexpicketfence: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter15:00
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cinexeagles0513875: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-old ?15:01
eagles0513875mine is rev2 which requires the patches for the kernel15:01
picketfenceb43-fwcutter is already the newest version.15:01
cinexpicketfence: ls -l /lib/firmware/b4315:01
picketfence:cinex: The message also suggests I use apt-get autoremove to remove no longer required packages.15:01
cinexthat's up to you picketfence15:02
picketfence:;;cinex: ok. do I have to sudo that last one?15:02
cinexyes15:02
picketfence:cinex: It scrolled a long list of stuff.15:03
cinexk15:03
cinexdon't see why it ouldn't work then...15:03
cinex4320 isn't listed though15:03
cinexyou will have to use ndiswrapper15:03
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picketfence:cinex: hate to bug you, but could you walk me through that?15:04
cinexsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper15:04
cinexu will need the windows driver15:04
picketfence!!!!!!!!!!!!15:04
picketfence:cinex: You've got to be kidding.....15:05
cinexthat's what ndiswrapper is. it uses the windows driver15:05
eagles0513875cinex: warning i found that ndiswrapper has been split into 3 packages on kubuntu15:05
eagles0513875!ndiswrapper15:05
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:05
eagles0513875!info ndiswrapper15:05
ubottuPackage ndiswrapper does not exist in intrepid15:05
eagles0513875its there but under a different name15:05
picketfence:eagles: Do you know what name?15:06
eagles0513875picketfence: ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.915:07
eagles0513875those 2 actually15:07
picketfenceStupid question time: I would have to download the windows driver before installing ndiswrapper or whatever, right?15:07
picketfence:eagles: Hey, those look familiar. I think I already installed those. Let me check15:07
eagles0513875those make up what used to be the 1 package called ndiswrapper15:07
EagleScreenhello15:08
EagleScreenthere is koversation for KDE415:08
EagleScreen:D15:08
rosco_ycan you migrate 32 bit ubuntu to 64 bits?15:08
picketfenceWhat's the other installer other than Adept?15:09
rosco_ywould anyone advise against going to 64 bit ubuntu?15:09
picketfenceStarts with an "s"15:09
picketfenceSynaptic?15:09
RurouniJonesrosco_y: Yes15:09
RurouniJonesUnless you have busted the 32bit RAM limit15:09
EagleScreenpicketfence you have synaptic and Kpackagekit in jaunty15:10
rosco_yRurouniJones: yes, it can be done, or yes you advise against it15:10
rosco_ynot even close15:10
RurouniJonesI don't see any reason to go 64bit.15:10
cinexhttp://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-setup-broadcom-wireless-bcm4312.html15:10
EagleScreen64 bit increase around 30% CPU speed15:10
EagleScreenbut consume around 30% more of RAM15:10
picketfenceI've used Synaptic before, but now I can't find it.15:11
EagleScreenpicketfence if you use kubuntu, I recommend you "sudo aptitude -R installa synaptic" to install it15:11
EagleScreen "sudo aptitude -R install synaptic"15:11
picketfenceI just realized that synaptic is on my laptop, not his.15:11
RurouniJonesrosco_y: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36860715:12
picketfenceInstalling it now.15:13
RurouniJones30% CPU speed increase is pretty wrong15:13
picketfenceBack to the Winblows driver...I have to download it before installing ndiswrapper, right?15:13
RurouniJonesin a few applications you will see a speed increase. Read the guide and have a look fer yourself.15:13
EagleScreenI mean CPU is faster in 30% with 64bit15:14
EagleScreensorry me English is poor15:14
cinexpicketfence: you just need to get the inf file out15:14
cinexhold on, ill check something15:14
RurouniJonesEagleScreen: Still wrong15:14
cinexpicketfence: you will need the driver. You need to cabextract it15:14
cinexsee the link i pasted above15:15
RurouniJonesThe CPU is faster in some areas on 64bit. Things like video processing and stuff that requires lots and lots of maths and is designed to take advantage.15:15
picketfence:cinex: Ok, working on it. Oh, and there are 3 packages...ndisgrk; ndiswrapper-utils-1.9; ndiswrapper-common15:15
RurouniJonesbut saying "it is 30% faster" as a general statement is just wrong in my opinion.15:15
cinexrosco_y: 64bit (from what i hear) has touble with things like flash15:15
EagleScreenyes, I know you have reason15:15
RurouniJonescinex: That is reasonably fixed now15:15
cinexk15:16
RurouniJonesYou shouldn't have problems with firefox / flash on 64bit, I haven'ted tested myself though.15:16
eagles0513875RurouniJones: im having issues with flash15:16
eagles0513875havent installed teh 64bit version yet though15:16
picketfence:cinex: I just follow the instructions on that webpage and it should work?15:17
cinexi dunno, they seem somewhat overkill.15:17
RurouniJoneseagles0513875: I think flash player 10 was the one with 64 bit compatibility on linux. Again I am not totally familiar with the process15:17
cinexinstall ndiswrapper and get the driver, install cabextract too15:17
cinexill walk you through it15:17
picketfence:cinex: Great, I'm all ears.  or eyes.  or whatever15:18
cinextell when you have  everything15:18
eagles0513875RurouniJones: someone told me earlier its still beta15:18
picketfence:cinex: you mean like the driver and stuff?15:18
cinexyeah15:18
picketfence'k. brb15:18
cinexfrom the laptop website?15:18
cinexor the cd15:18
RurouniJoneseagles0513875: Righto.15:19
rosco_yshoot, so I just made a huge mistake "upgrading" to 64 bit hardware?15:19
rosco_yThat's a downer15:19
rosco_yI should have spent the extra cash on a nicer 32 bit system15:19
cinexnah15:20
RurouniJonesNah15:20
RurouniJonesPretty much all CPU hardware is 64 bit now15:20
eagles0513875rosco_y: all hardware is both 64 3215:20
RurouniJonesEr no15:20
RurouniJonesyou have 32bit and 64bit CPUs15:20
RurouniJones64bit can do both but 32bit can't do 64bit.15:20
rosco_yeagles0513875: but I just blew my piddling savings on a 64 bit proc15:20
eagles0513875RurouniJones: thats what i mean15:21
cinex64bit lets u have more ram... that's about it15:21
eagles0513875rosco_y: i use both 64bit linux and windows no problems15:21
RurouniJonesrosco_y: Pretty much ALL the modern CPUs are 64-bit15:21
RurouniJonesSo don't worry about it15:21
DragnslcrI don't think Intel or AMD sell 32-bit processors anymore15:21
rosco_yeagles0513875: I can't boot my windows server anymore--it doesn't detect my usb keyboard and mouse15:22
DragnslcrAt least not in any major retailer15:22
eagles0513875my desktop is bouth 32 6415:22
eagles0513875rosco_y: thats for the windows channel15:22
rosco_yeagles0513875: what do you mean?15:22
eagles0513875its an intel core2 quad q955015:22
RurouniJonesDragnslcr: I think Intel still do 32bit celerons but that is it.15:22
eagles0513875if i want to i can use a 32 bit os15:22
Dragnslcreagles0513875- you mean it's a 64-bit processor15:22
eagles0513875ya15:22
eagles0513875its 64bit capable but u can still use 32bit15:22
eagles0513875!offtopic15:22
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:22
eagles0513875c u guys in there15:22
eagles0513875taking the channel offtopic15:23
Dragnslcreagles0513875- all 64-bit processors can run 32-bit versions of software15:23
rosco_yeagles0513875: I'm running my 32 bit ubuntu right now, but I thought it would be good to upgrade to 64 bit, or migrate if that was possible15:23
eagles0513875rosco_y: im on 64bit kubuntu and i love it15:23
RurouniJonesrosco_y: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.15:23
RurouniJonesbeing 32 bit ain't broke.15:24
rosco_yRurouniJones: I dunno how to turn get my audio working--this peace and quiet is driving me nuts15:24
eagles0513875my audio works outa the box for me15:24
picketfence:cinex: I've downloaded the driver and extracted the .zip. I am now left with a .sys, .inf, and a .cat15:24
rosco_yeagles0513875: what audio chipset do you have?15:25
RurouniJonesrosco_y: Separate question. So give us the details. Hardware? Drivers? Can you see the hardware? What does kmix show?15:25
rosco_ymy alsamixer shows Realtec ALC88815:26
eagles0513875mine is an nvidia mcp51 HD audio chipset15:26
RurouniJonesrosco_y: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558069 <- result of a quick google15:27
RurouniJonesMight be applicable to you15:27
rosco_yRurouniJones: thanks :)15:27
rosco_ycool, I think that may help me out with my audio15:28
rosco_yI haveta bring my son to the Dr.'s....be back in an hour or two...15:28
Raylzwhat kind of networkmanager applet are you using in kubuntu?15:32
eagles0513875default knetwork manager for wired connections and wifi15:33
aigars#kubuntu15:35
Idhanjava applications such as netbeans, use a very fanny font.. is there any way to improve them?15:37
Idhansuch as antialising15:37
ubuntu_so how do you like kde guys15:38
trappistubottu: if you're looking for an unbiased opinion of kde, you've come to one of the worst possible places15:40
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trappistI mean15:40
trappistbah15:40
eagles0513875i just need the kernel header source to in order to compile the kernel from source15:41
eagles0513875trappist: lol nice one15:41
eagles0513875!kernel15:45
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages15:45
alepot|stages15:46
alepot!stages15:47
ubottuThe Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.15:47
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cinexeagles0513875:16:05
cinexdid u fix it yet ?16:05
* picketfence throws a gold medal around cinex's neck.16:06
picketfence:cinex: Thank you so much.16:06
cinexnp16:06
* cinex pokes eagles0513875 16:09
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Blues-Manhi16:20
Blues-Manhow to read the content of a .iso with dolphin?16:20
Blues-Manor is there another tool to do it with kde16:21
fosco__Blues-Man, right clic on the iso file and choose mount16:21
Blues-Manthank you16:22
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Hazahttp://imagebin.ca/view/bT0xyN.html  <--- thoughts? :D16:32
LjLHaza: no idea off hand, but there's an I/O error in there - is that from a live CD or a HD install?16:36
HazaLjL: HD install16:36
LjLHaza: i would use "smartmontools" to make sure your HD isn't faulty16:37
HazaLjL: Perfect advice! Thank you16:37
LjLHaza: you can use a live cd to install smartmontools if you're unable to do it from your ubuntu install16:37
DF5JTHi everyone.16:38
DF5JTI did a fresh Jaunty beta install on my brand new T60p. It only recognizes one CPU.16:38
HazaLjL: Its okay, after shaking the tower like a British nanny shakes a baby i was able to get the OS to boot from the HD :)16:38
LjLHaza: err, do you mean that literally?16:39
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DF5JT2.6.28-11-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 27 09:00:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux16:39
reddragon2005:cinex: This is picketfence.16:39
reddragon2005:cinex: The b44 module didn't work at all, so I reverted to b43.16:39
DF5JTIt's an SMP kernel and on anothe T60 both CPU cores work. Any ideas?16:39
HazaLjL: lol, no. But i suspect it might be (if not the OS) the SATA cables16:39
LjLHaza: ah, i was starting to really worry for you if you had meant it literally :)16:40
LjLHaza: yes, it might be the cables if it's not the HD itself16:40
HazaI just wanted to run it past you lot here to see if you could say "yeah thats an OS problem, reinstall"16:40
LjLHaza, it *might* an OS problem, i don't really know16:40
LjLHaza: it's just that "I/O error" that would make me check for hardware problems first16:40
LjLHaza: besides, i can't see the whole error in the photo, but it says "sda, sector ....." - i guess it goes on to say a sector couldn't be read?16:41
HazaLjL: When i goto reboot i will take a better picture16:41
Hazaactually... there were some other funky errors i never got a shot of16:41
LjLHaza: well, if smartmontools doesn't find anything special, run a memtest too (from the GRUB menu) - bad RAM might sometimes give the symptoms of a bad HD, i believe16:42
reddragon2005Does anyone know if eagles0513875 fixed his/her problem with Broadcom?16:42
HazaLjL: Cheers mate. I have a direction to move in now.I'll keep the channel posted :)16:43
reddragon2005Sorry, must go. I'll be back later to see if I can help anyone.16:44
ayramthere are an irc, languaje spanish?16:48
trappist!es16:49
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:49
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ayramthank you!!!! (K)16:49
ayramxD16:49
ayram?16:50
ayramok ;)16:50
jayhunold!tablet16:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tablet16:50
ayrami'm still confused ¬¬ why? this OS is hard :'(16:52
ayrami can't install a SW16:53
ayramwhere is my .exe?16:53
raphinkayram: what can't you install?16:53
ayramskins for aMSN16:53
raphinkah16:54
ayramxD16:54
* raphink hasn't used aMSN is years16:54
ayramxD16:54
* raphink doesn't see the use of aMSN 16:54
raphinkayram: why do you need aMSN?16:55
* stepnem doesn't even know what than aMSN is16:55
raphinkstepnem: aMSN is a MSN/Windows Live client16:56
raphinkit was great some years ago when no other client (pidgin or kopete) supported the MSN protocol well16:56
* stepnem could guess that, yeah16:56
raphinkespecially for the voice/webcam16:56
raphinkbut now I don't really see the point16:56
ayramthank you... i'm sorry i don't know very much english, i'll go to IRC spanish ;)16:56
raphinkand it doesn't really integrate in KDE, too16:56
raphinkayram: no problema16:56
ayram¬¬ aMSN y a enviroment more "cool"16:57
ayrami dislake pidgin16:57
ayramxD16:57
raphinkayram: did you try kopete?16:57
ayramno friendly16:57
raphinkpidgin is a gtk program, it's more fitted for GNOME16:57
raphinkkopete is not friendly?16:57
ayramno, pidgin16:57
raphinkah16:58
raphink:)16:58
ayramkopete is in KDE? but like aMSN it's...16:58
ayrama MSN xD16:58
ayrambut in linux xD16:58
ayram:P16:58
raphinkkopete is the default IM client in KDE16:58
ayrami have GNOME :(16:59
raphinkand it does MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM, IRC, Jabber, Gadu-gadu, and more16:59
stepnemlol16:59
raphinkayram: why are you asking questions on #kubuntu if you use GNOME ? ;)16:59
stepnem!GNOME16:59
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.16:59
ayrambuuuuuut.... ¬¬   ...16:59
ayramxD this is a good idea!17:00
raphinkayram: this channel is about kubuntu, so everybody here use KDE (I would expect)17:00
raphinkayram: have you tried KDE btw ? ;)17:00
ayrami want KDE enviroment, but i install the Ubuntu in my computer...17:00
raphinkthen install kde :)17:00
raphinksudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop17:00
raphink:)17:00
raphinkor you can use synaptic, select the kubuntu-desktop package and validate17:01
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ayramthank, (i don't know english, but i understand... i don't know if you understand me, but i'm trying) :S :S17:01
raphinkI sure do17:02
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raphinkayram: do you know how to use a console?17:03
ayramthank you, i need go to my classroom, the teacher is very very  very...17:03
raphinkvery?17:03
ayramhow do you say gruñon?17:03
ayrami don't know use a console17:04
ayramcommands nothing!!!!17:04
ayram:'(17:04
raphinkgrumpy17:04
ayramwhat is this?17:04
raphinkgruñon = grumpy17:05
ayrami need learn more about this... ¬_¬17:05
ayramthank you!!!17:05
ayramxD17:05
ayramwhere i can find a tutorial about console linux?17:05
raphinkthere's tons17:06
raphinkyou learn as it goes17:06
raphinkyou can control everything on a computer with the console17:06
raphinkso it's a large subject17:06
ayram:S my teacher!!! gerck.ayram@gmail.com sorry17:06
ayramgood Bye!!!!!! :S17:06
DrMrHorsetheres a simple way to access wireless networks in kde4 right?17:15
eagles0513875DrMrHorse: knetworkmanager17:17
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DrMrHorsefrom the command line i guess17:20
DrMrHorsei was thinking there would be a little symbol to click like kde3, gnome, windows, etc17:21
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stepnemDrMrHorse: knetworkmanager is GUI frontend17:22
|PaperTiger|Having trouble setting up a dual screen display. ATi Catalyst Control Centre installed. Don't know what settings. Tried a few, but none work how I want. I want it so I have an extended desktop17:22
DrMrHorsei couldnt find that from the kmenu17:22
DrMrHorsemaybe ill look again17:23
DrMrHorseknetworkmanager isnt installed by default?17:26
stepnemdunno, KDE 3.5.10 here, was installed by default17:28
DrMrHorsei know, thats what i was using. im trying out kde4, and it makes me rage17:28
stepnemit used to make me rage too, that's why I see no point to use it...17:29
DrMrHorseinb4 im not ready for the stunning new philosophy of kde417:29
DrMrHorsei wanted to get used to it so that, come april of this year, i would still have support for my desktop17:29
stepnembut I faintly remember there was knetworkmanager in KDE4 by default17:30
fergieHi17:30
stepnem!hi > fergie17:31
ubottufergie, please see my private message17:31
DrMrHorsei installed kde from the gnome install of 8.10, and theres no wireless support installed17:31
DrMrHorseso i would have to plug in to install it17:31
stepnemoh...17:31
DrMrHorseand thats fail.17:31
DrMrHorsebut i guess ill save my bitching for my family and friends17:32
alepotDrMrHorse: there's been a lot of discussion about this on the Debian users mailing list17:32
alepotthere are solutions17:33
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nahazNeed help with alsa in kubuntu 8.1017:57
nahazCan only use sound as root17:58
nahazok I solved the problem with installing newest driver from alsa18:00
* diabu is away: I'm busy18:06
* diabu is back (gone 00:00:06)18:06
* diabu is away: guitar18:06
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zakizaki7help18:09
zakizaki7bonjour18:09
zakizaki7hello all18:10
zakizaki7can i get help ??18:10
stepnem!ask | zakizaki718:10
ubottuzakizaki7: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:10
zakizaki7is it possible to install kubuntu on a usb drive(not a live usb) ?if it's possible how to do it ?18:13
Dragnslcr!usb18:13
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:13
DragnslcrSecond link is probably what you want18:14
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EagleScreenhello18:18
EagleScreenif you want konversatio for KDE4 you can download it from here http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=konversation&searchon=names&suite=experimental&section=all18:18
francescotorelliciao a tutti18:22
JontheEchidna!it18:22
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:22
ubuntu_no me reconoce el paqeute :S18:23
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juacom99ahora si18:24
juacom99no me reconoce el paqeute :S18:24
stepnem!es | juacom9918:25
ubottujuacom99: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:25
juacom99stepnem: sorry i thouth i was opn kubuntu-es18:25
juacom99my bad18:26
stepnem:D18:26
stepnemahora si!18:26
juacom99thanks18:26
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alumno__:)18:38
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loganWHDhey all18:40
* genii sips his coffee18:40
loganWHDanyone here have dual monitors working with Kubuntu 8.04, ati 1440, dell 940018:40
julia_ex-xphey guys. I'd like to install resolvconf without having a working internet connection. How do I install this software (I'm newbie ;))18:41
loganWHDi have tried a few things18:42
loganWHDbut nothing works18:42
loganWHDjust gives me a blank screen18:42
drbobbhello, is ktorrent's upnp plugin nonfunctional, or is something wrong with my router?18:43
alepotdrbobb: suspect it's your router18:46
loganWHDanyone?18:46
geniijulia_ex-xp: Look up the dependencies of it at packages.ubuntu.com and download those as well (on some machine which does have internet). Then copy them all into the /var/cache/apt/archives dir of the box without internet. Should be able to install by command line with something like:  sudo apt-get install resolvconf18:46
drbobbalepot: does upnp work for you?18:46
alepotyes18:46
alepotor it did, when I went through a router that had it enabled18:47
geniiloganWHD: Tried putting as a kernel load option: vga      ?18:47
badrhallo all18:47
drbobbyou are sure your ktorrent gets to see inbound connections?18:47
alepotyes18:47
loganWHDgenii, no and i dont know how to do that?18:47
alepotand nmap from outside shows the ports as open18:47
drbobbit used to work for me a couple of upgrades back, too18:47
drbobbmy router hasn't changed since then, while ktorrent has18:48
rogalAnybody know a hex calc for kde ?18:48
drbobbany idea how to diagnose what's failing?18:48
geniiloganWHD: Hit ESC when grub begins, edit the line which has at the end something like "splash"  and add after that:   vga      then enter and boot from the changed line18:48
alepotdrbobb: no idea, sorry.18:48
alepotdrbobb: not firewalled locally is it?18:49
drbobbnope18:49
julia_ex-xpthankls genii, which package do I need?18:49
alepotdrbobb: which version18:49
geniijulia_ex-xp: It's called resolvconf18:50
geniiWork needs me for a few minutes, AFK18:50
loganWHDrogal, i use galculator18:50
loganWHDit can do hex18:50
loganWHDgenii, is thre a file i can add that to18:51
alepotdrbob: 2.2.5 KDE 3.5.10 here18:51
claudio_hi18:51
claudio_could anyone help me,can he explain me how can i install cor example a C++ programmer application on Linux Ubuntu 8.04????18:52
alepotsudo aptiotude install kdevelop18:52
alepot*aptitude18:52
claudio_and what is kdevelop?18:52
alepot!kdevelop18:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop18:52
claudio_i understand18:53
claudio_could anyone help me18:53
loganWHDgenii, i just add the word VGA thee?18:53
loganWHDthere?18:53
alepotit's a multi-language development platform18:53
claudio_i am making a project18:53
claudio_and i need hep18:53
claudio_a18:53
claudio_so,i can use it for java files?18:53
claudio_or cpp and c++ files?18:53
alepotyes, although youy'd be better using eclips or netbeans for that, perhaps18:53
alepotmulti-language18:54
claudio_yes18:54
claudio_now i am using netbeans ide 6.018:54
claudio_but do you know how can i use net beans for c++ files?18:54
alepothttp://www.kdevelop.org/18:55
claudio_thx18:55
claudio_last question18:55
alepotI believe netbeans knows how to edit C files, and I'm sure there is some way to tell the build system how to make them18:56
claudio_can i use netbeans for c++ files?18:56
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alepotbut that's a question best researched on the netbeans website18:56
claudio_ok,thx very much18:57
claudio_have a good day/resto of the day18:57
claudio_bye18:57
loganWHDisnt that just like editing the lilo?18:58
alepotclaudio_: http://www.netbeans.org/features/cpp/18:58
geniiloganWHD: If you can boot to livecd, mount the hd on which /boot is on and add it to the same line of file /boot/grub/menu.lst18:59
claudio_ok.....the beeest18:59
Idhansomeone here know how to set netbeans_C++ to compile in parallel?18:59
geniiloganWHD: It is lowercase vga and not uppercase VGA  as well18:59
* Blues-Man gotext.org code once, SMS everywhere19:00
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loganWHDso i just put the line vgo19:03
stefanlsdRiddell: heys. That tripod patch is inline as no current patch systems exists in the package. I can put one in if you would like, but the package should be sync'd from debian next time, and we have no other changes, as they are also going through the same transition.19:04
claudio_does anyone what is the iwconfig?19:04
stefanlsdclaudio_: wireless config19:05
claudio_yes19:05
claudio_and at what it servs?19:05
loganWHDgonna go try19:06
stefanlsdclaudio_: man iwconfig19:06
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claudio_ok,done,thx,now i understand19:08
claudio_what means this?  "This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers"19:11
xtthat your aptitude doesnt have Super Cow Powers19:12
claudio_i am from italy,and the mean is unknown for me19:13
stefanlsdclaudio_: its a joke.19:14
claudio_and what means19:14
afeijowhere do I configure my apache? httpd.conf is empty19:14
alepotclaudio_: you forgot to tell it what to do or made a typo in the command line19:16
alepotafeijo: apache2.conf or somewhere in /etc/apache2/conf.d19:16
stefanlsdclaudio_: apt-get moo19:17
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afeijoalepot: thanks, I'm trying to enable rewrite module, not easy to find it19:18
stefanlsdclaudio_: try join #ubuntu-it-chat       ,  they can answer stuff in italian19:20
jtholmesajeijo  /etc/apache2/sites-available/default if you are on  [ku]buntu19:20
alepotafeijo: a2enmod rewrite19:21
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afeijowow, thanks a lot alepot !!!19:22
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alepotafeijo: you're welcome19:23
afeijojtholmes: I was looking in that folder, I use kubuntu, but alepot worked19:23
afeijonow I have a annoying visual stuff that I need to find how to disable, when I move my mouse cursor, it change the focused window to the one bellow the mouse! damn :)19:24
|PaperTiger|Having trouble setting up a dual screen display. ATi Catalyst Control Centre installed. Don't know what settings. Tried a few, but none work how I want. I want it so I have an extended desktop19:24
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alepotafeijo: jtholmes' solution would be good for individual virtual hosts. a2enmod enables modules globally19:25
afeijoalepot: its ok, this is for my notebook, I will use to personal php devel19:25
afeijoouch, my FN+F# keys dont reduce the audio volume :(19:27
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jtholmesalepot good to know19:30
kjelleHello. I have just installed the latest Kubuntu, and I'm trying to get rid of a very annoying feature: The exploding windows. I have disabled Explosion (in System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects -> Explosion), but it does not seem to stop. What gives?19:31
loganWHDgenii, no go bro19:31
alepotafeijo: try ststem settings - regional and language - keyboard layout. There are lots to choose from19:31
loganWHDborked my X doing that19:31
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Donaldi need help installing kubuntu on my macbook19:34
alepot|macbook19:35
kjelleNoone knows?19:35
demmonhow can turn on HIDE on my  kasbar19:35
alepot!macbook19:35
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot19:35
Donaldi asked several other people and they all told me to go to this site19:35
alepotkjelle: you may need to logout and login for it to take effect?19:35
kjellealepot: a reboot did not help19:36
alepotok - check the permissions on your .kde folder sudo chown -R $USER.$USER $USER/.kde19:37
kjellealepot: how was I able to enable it, but not disable it? :)19:38
kjellechecking perms19:38
alepotkjelle: I'm not at all sure why it happens but I've seen similar things a couple of times here over the last few year19:39
alepotI've always put it down to finger trouble :)19:39
CrummyGummyHiya, I've upgraded kubuntu but 4.2 isn't installed. Any ideas why? It worked flawlessly on my laptop.19:39
kjellealepot: permissions are ok19:40
kjelleit is seemingly impossible for me to use this GUI with these silly explosions :)19:40
alepotkjelle: I'm out of ideas, sorry19:40
kjellealepot: ty19:41
demmonhow can turn on HIDE on my  kasbar19:41
alepotkjelle: you could try logging in as root in a recovery console and moving .kde out of the way? At lleast something would be useable then19:41
kjellekjelle@kjelle-ubuntu:~/.kde/share/config$ cat kwinrc  | grep -i explo19:41
kjellekwin4_effect_explosionEnabled=false19:41
kjelleit is disabled :) but not "used"19:41
alepotkjelle: KDE 4.2? Have you discovered a bug?19:42
kjellealepot: might seem so19:43
kjellealepot: 30 mins after installation ;)19:43
alepotROFL. That's why I use LTS :)19:43
kjelleLp19:43
kjelle:åp19:43
kjelle:p19:44
kjellewanted to test the "new kde"19:44
kjellewhich is as buggy as Microsoft nowdays ;)19:44
alepotI read the reviews...19:44
UncleScroogeSpeaking of bugs, has anyone using an Intel card on the latest Jaunty beta release having their desktop effects going horrible slowly?19:44
demmonkjelle: sverga??19:44
kjelledemmon: sverga?19:45
alepotswedish?19:45
demmonnothing cuz of the å19:45
kjellenorsk19:45
demmonaaa19:45
demmonthe same19:45
demmon:D19:45
jtholmesUncleScrooge, no intel but fine on nvidia cards19:45
geniiloganWHD: Apologies on lag, work is quite busy here. You have a monitor/screen for each video output on your computer, and they are all showing black only?19:45
jtholmesUncleScrooge, i have intel on laptop but at 8.10 and plan to stay there for a while19:46
kjellealepot: seems like i don'19:46
alepot|bugs19:46
kjellehave time for this ;)19:46
alepot!bugs19:47
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots19:47
UncleScroogejtholmes: Yeah, it seems to be a Intel-only problem. Driver related, according to the forums. Ah well... I just wanted a decent 4.2 based desktop to mess around with, and I've been having nothing but bad luck with various distros all morning.19:47
alepotkjelle: it's quite a steep learning curve at first but well worth the effot19:47
alepot*effort19:47
jtholmesUncleScrooge, fortunately i have installed many jaunty's and not a video problem one so far19:47
kjellealepot: not when there are bugs19:48
kjellealepot: i hate bugs ;)19:48
White_Pelicanah but do you have any nvidia cards jtholmes ? hehe19:48
UncleScroogejtholmes: Well, it's more of a video acceleration problem. It's usable, but not completely. Ah well, I'll poke around and see if I can't find another distro that's got it working. Maybe Arch or something.19:48
alepotThat's why I stay clear of bleeding edge - remember ubuntu is based on debian testing...19:48
norenhi19:49
jtholmesWhite_Pelican, all nvidia cards  one intel on laptop19:49
sithlrod48hello all19:49
jtholmesi have only installed jaunty on nvidia19:49
White_Pelicanah cool19:49
White_Pelicangood to know :)19:49
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UncleScroogealepot: Yeah, I certainly wouldn't go with most new distro releases for a stable system, but at this point I'm just messing around in hopes of taking a closer look at the new KDE features.19:50
jtholmesThat said i dont do esoteric things like two heads, shoot um up games etc. so perhaps i bypass those problems19:50
alepotUncleScrooge: then expect breakaghe :)19:51
UncleScroogealepot: I do... can't say I'm happy about when it happens, whether expected or not. :)19:51
sithlord48well tonight i will be installing JJ on my amd/ati box.....19:51
Abyss_lo all19:51
jtholmesI always keep this machine on stable and test on others19:51
Abyss_noob alert here19:51
sithlord48i have a stable one too just its a server currently w/ xp on it ... moving to ubuntu (yes gnome) very soon...19:52
Abyss_I have Ubuntu 8.10 working nicely on me Dell D820, should i try Kubuntu over this??19:52
alepotUncleScrooge: I use PXE boot on my testing box so can play with various flavours, but only ever run stable on "production" machines19:52
sithlord48abyss you will not need to reinstall the os .. just install the kubuntu-desktop package19:53
Abyss_hmm u see, i did warn u lol, previously yes i have done one or the other installs19:53
UncleScroogealepot: My main machine's a Mac, I just happen to have a spare that I'm messing around with. Linux isn't my main OS nowadays.19:53
alepotUncleScrooge: I keep a couple of dual-boot boxen, but this ios a linux shop19:54
sithlord48i used to run a bunch of mac's.....19:54
noaXesshi all19:54
noaXessis there a way to control the cpu fun? eg over acpi commands?19:54
jtholmescpu fan?19:54
lovremost of my applications cant remember their maximised status and allways run in normal window, even tho i maximise them all the time (for example dolphin and kmail). can i change this behaviour?19:55
Abyss_another mistake i made when i installed this was to put this on first, but i want winxp on too, reckon i should reformat, put on winxp, then on the spare half of the partition put this back on, or can i do it with this installed, ie resize this ext3 partition then go from there with a boot loader?19:55
* CrummyGummy is stumped19:55
StR|Sangrealhello... pls how can i download and extract music from youtube?19:56
sithlord48@ abyss_ partition your disk  3 parts  one for xp one for (k)ubuntu one for swap....  then install Xp first19:56
noaXessjtholmes: yes.. cpu cooler, fan19:56
Abyss_yes thats how i would do it sithlord48 - but i put ubuntu 8.10 on first ! oh well its not too hard to put this back on,19:56
puddleHi all19:57
jtholmesAbyss_, or use a VM and install xp there19:57
sithlord48good point i have had much success w/ xp in virtualbox19:57
alepotnoaXess: there's an old thread here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4273719:57
puddlei just install irrsi onto my computer cant find it on my desktop? where do i look looked everywhere?19:57
Abyss_i looked at the virtualisation, but its not worth the overheads for what i need it for, dual boot would be fine,,19:57
jtholmesnoaXess, probably is but i let it control automatically  what mb or pc type19:57
Abyss_got wine for the small bits19:57
puddlei just install irrsi onto my computer cant find it on my desktop? where do i look looked everywhere?19:58
noaXessjtholmes: notebook asus vx219:58
sithlord48then you will need to install xp first or get a super grub disk and fix grub after the install if you can resize ur ext3 part....19:58
flacostehi there19:58
flacostejust upgraded to Jaunty beta from Hardy19:58
flacosteand now i'm lost in kde419:59
sithlord48all and all its ezer to install xp first.... no matter what os your going to boot it with19:59
Abyss_this is it, trying gparted i cant seem to resize my ext3,, maybe i should boot to gparted first!19:59
kaddihi, how can i reinitialize my soundsystem. my sound worked fine and now all of a sudden it states "xine could not initialise sound driver".19:59
jtholmesAbyss_, vmware is great19:59
Abyss_yeah put the shitty OS on first eh19:59
jtholmesand free19:59
flacosteany idea how do we configure the application by mime types19:59
UncleScroogeYou know, this may be a small annoyance, but I really wish they'd get rid of the damned K-prefix that's in front of so many KDE programs. They seem headed that way with the 4.x series, and I really wish they'd hurry it up.19:59
flacostethis control panel seems gone19:59
Abyss_yup i love vmware, i got esx 3.5 on 2x hp d530's19:59
jtholmesnoaXess, ask your question again in about 3 mins to see if anyone answers i dont know ans19:59
sithlord48i have been cought running serveral machines at a time... one for testing what i plan on doing to my server one for xp and one for JJ beta19:59
noaXessjtholmes: i have one.. see alepot's comment20:00
* alepot polishes halo20:00
Abyss_btw - gr8 room :)20:00
jtholmeskudos to alepot20:00
sithlord48<- first visit as well to the irc channel, work is so boring...20:01
jtholmesUncleScrooge, as far back as i can remember much of kde apps started wth letter k  branding thing u kno20:01
alepotActually, its really easy to solve problems - you just google20:01
alepotI've been doing it since google was invented20:01
CrummyGummyfunny...20:01
Abyss_i like being old enough to remember the net b4 google,,20:01
Laeborg!msn20:02
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin20:02
kaddi!sound20:02
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:02
alepotin almost every case, someone else has had the same problem and a solution has been found20:02
jtholmesAbyss_, u 2 huh?20:02
UncleScroogejtholmes: Yes, from the start. And it's always been amazingly annoying. Gnome used to do it too, but stopped. Apple still does it with the i-Apps, which I consider just as annoying.20:02
flacoste!mime types20:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mime types20:02
alepotI've been online since about 198220:02
Abyss_lol bit longer than me then,,20:03
sithlord48back when a 5k connection was blazing fast...20:03
Abyss_uber geek eh20:03
jtholmesUncleScrooge, yes it is a little annoying but they can name is anything they want as long as it works as sold i am happy :)  or just easy to please :)20:03
alepot5K? 300/75 accousically coupled :)20:03
jtholmesor dumb20:03
Abyss_my first was 9600 baud20:03
sithlord48lamo20:03
jtholmesAbyss_, wow you had one that fast, how about 1200 baud20:04
UncleScroogejtholmes: If only it would work. Sometimes I really wonder what the devs behind the KDE UI revamp in 4.x (as opposed to the backend overhaul) were thinking.20:04
Abyss_lol yeah fast eh 90's man when i was old enough to play20:05
jtholmesAbyss_, i worked for AT&T (not the current one) and punch taped my programs in fortran on a tty machine20:05
Abyss_fortran eh very lowlevel,,pascal was about as close i ever got20:05
sithlord48for me C. is a low as i go20:05
Abyss_Low C isnt very nice,,,20:06
rosco_yMy first modem was a 1200 baud from the military--it had a dial-back security feature20:06
alepotI never got near really serious hardware. I started programming 6502s20:06
jtholmesAbyss_, fortran was weird, then i fell in love with C20:06
alepotjtholmes: +1 for C20:06
Abyss_no one probably got the the low c joke>?20:06
rosco_yNumber line BASIC was my first language20:06
rosco_yif (uLuv(C)) Honk;20:07
* alepot makes like a goose20:07
rosco_ylol20:07
jtholmesmy group at at&t had the alpha copy of C++ from stoustrap (he worked for ATT labs)20:07
sithlord48honk;20:07
alepotjtholmes: cool. I loved overloading20:07
jtholmesbut enough of the good ole' days the moderator will get us20:08
alepottook ages to get my head around the object-oriented approach after procedural20:08
sithlord48recursion.... and pointers...20:08
jtholmesi had problems with OO also but finally it clicked20:08
sithlord48then the best was a friend of mine trying to sort a list by %120:09
rosco_yI really enjoyed C and C++, well, I enjoyed FORTRAN, BASIC and Pascal too--I'm a programmer at heart, but now I really enjoy C#20:09
Abyss_i was just boring my gf with the good ole days,,yes, she nearly had me too20:09
flacosteanyone knows what is the new kde4 app to manage mime types association?20:09
joejchow do i get my dual monitors to work more like 1?20:09
rosco_yflacoste: I asked that question once...and there was an answer--but I don't know what it was20:10
sithlord48i belive you can manage your mime types in system settings -> file types.. (or default apps)20:10
alepotflacoste: not in konqueror?20:10
flacostesithlord48: nope, that only manages the "components", not per-mime types20:10
sithlord48or u should be able to set them up in konquror /dolphin20:10
jtholmesjoejc,  compose or something like that20:10
alepotsithlord48: that would be a reasonable place to look20:10
jtholmescompwiz20:10
rosco_yjoejc: you have to install the right drivers and tweak your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file20:11
jtholmeswhatever20:11
sithlord48sorry not @ my kubuntu machine ... xp at work for now....20:11
flacostealepot: well, the DB is used all over the place, so it's not konqueror specific20:11
rosco_yIt's not a lot of fun, I can guarantee that--but it's really nice when its said and done20:11
jtholmescompiz20:11
sithlord48compiz is much fun ..and so very useful20:11
flacostein konversation, kmail, by the "application based on the contents of the URL" settings in "Web Browser" component20:11
joejci installed the nvidia driver and im using twin view but its more like using 2 separate monitors20:11
rosco_yI'm just lucky my son was able to help me out with that20:11
rosco_yjoejc: I know where you are...I've been there20:12
rosco_ysearch for "twinview"20:12
rosco_yjoejc: I think I got a link for you...hang one20:13
rosco_yon, even20:13
sithlord48does ne one here use a "remote desktop server" for kubuntu i have been having some issues getting it to work20:13
alepotflacoste: sure, but knoqueror - settings - file associations gets the job done.20:14
rosco_yjoejc: keep your salt-shaker handy when you follow my advice--but you might be interested in: http://www.darkartistry.com/content/view/74/41/20:14
rosco_yalthough that page is ati-specific, I'll bet the principals are similar20:16
jtholmessithlord48, rds is it for windows clients google does not elaborate20:16
sithlord48similar....20:16
jtholmessithlord48, what ubuntu package?20:16
sithlord48vnc4server and x11vnc would be the two i have attempted to use...20:16
alepot+1 for any flavour of vnc20:17
flacostealepot: ok, i'll give it a try!20:17
alepotaptitude search vnc20:17
sithlord48well i run ultravnc server on my xp machine (server) that i will be converting to ubuntu but i have not had much luck getting ne vnc server to connect to the ubuntu box20:17
sithlord48er wait my clients can't connect (like krdc )20:18
alepotsithlord48: it can be made to  work  - IIRC I googled for a hoto when I was playing with remote access methods20:19
alepot*howto20:19
flacostealepot: thanks, that's what i was looking for20:19
alepotthe app's mailing list archives  are always a good resource20:19
sithlord48part of my issue could be that i am running ubuntu in a virtual machine.20:20
alepotsithlord48: almost certainly :)20:21
norenhi can html be activated in kmail20:21
rosco_ysithlord48: How did you make out with your mime-types?20:21
alepotnoren: yes, but its a very Bad Idea (TM)20:21
kaddihi, how can i reinitialize my soundsystem. my sound worked fine and now all of a sudden it states "xine could not initialise sound driver".20:21
rosco_yI accidentally found them in the control-center20:21
norenalepot why so               ?20:21
alepotkaddi: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart20:22
sithlord48rosco_y: i am not at a kubuntu machine atm , but i do remember tweaking then i thought in system settings20:22
rosco_ykaddi: I'm having trouble with my audio too, so welcome to the club!20:22
alepotnoren: http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml20:22
rosco_ysithlord48: aah...I'm noe help in that case20:22
sithlord48rosco_y: oh i wasn't asking the mime type question.... that was flacoste20:23
yaa__hi where can i get whitebuntu?20:24
alepot!whiteubuntu20:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about whiteubuntu20:24
rosco_yneverhearduvit20:25
rosco_ysithlord48: :o gotcha20:25
kaddialepot: i still get the same message. :(20:26
sithlord48yea never heard of it ..20:26
floownhello20:26
alepotkaddi: sorry - I'm stumped withourt being at the box20:26
rosco_yI gave up on my audio--I turned on the radio20:27
norenwhatis whiteubuntu20:27
floownwhen I want to create a SSL certificat, it is asked "Common Name (eg, YOUR name) []". I enter my personal name or the NDD ?20:27
yaa__dont exactly know20:27
flacostethere is keditfiletype20:28
yaa__written : ubuntu for whites20:28
flacostebut it only edits one mime/type at a time20:28
jtholmesyaa__, please elaborate20:29
yaa__what is elaborate20:29
yaa__know english not20:30
yaa__well20:30
alepotfloown: here's a general procedure: http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html but you may need to be application-specific in your answers20:30
jtholmesyaa__, explain more details etc. what are you asking?20:30
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yaa__ive seen a site with this @distro@ want to find about it20:31
yaa__info20:31
floownalepot: thx a lot, nice link20:31
alepotyaa__: google returns no hits20:31
alepotfor whiteubuntu20:31
norenneveer  heard of whiteubuntu20:32
jtholmesyaa__, what info do you want how to get it, how to install it?20:32
yaa__i want to find out information about it20:32
yaa__also never seen20:32
yaa__it20:32
alepotyaa__: and nothing useful for "ubunto for whites"20:33
sithlord48whitebuntu does return some hits and i don't think your gonna find it .... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=whitebuntu&btnG=Search20:33
jtholmeswonders if yaa__ is pulling our collective legs!!!20:33
geniiIf such a distribution did exist, you likely wouldn't find out much about it from here. We're anti-segregation20:34
yaa__onders if yaa__ is pulling our collective legs!!! ---??20:34
norenjtholmes: i kinda agree with u20:34
alepotyaa__: http://www.reddit.com/domain/whitebuntu.org but it doesn't look useful20:34
yaa__what is collective legs20:34
jtholmeshis english is a little to broken20:34
alepot"to pull his/her leg" - to have a joke with20:34
yaa__aha20:34
yaa__my english is not perfect)) but im tryin20:35
alepotcollective = group, in this case20:35
sithlord48from what i found whitebuntu is some version of ubuntu written by whites for whites.... sorry yaa__ there is no such thing20:35
jtholmesright on alepot20:35
jtholmessithlord48, so it really does exist20:36
norenyaa__: http://www.whitebuntu.org/20:36
alepotlike when you send the new apprentice for a packet of spirit-level bubbles or a left-handed spanner20:36
yaa__thanx20:36
jtholmesin any case it is not supported here to my knowledge20:36
LjL!offtopic20:36
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!20:36
jtholmesor a shelf stretcher or a sky hook20:36
LjL!derivatives20:36
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce)20:36
ubottucut off...20:36
yaa__does anybody use sams?20:36
alepotnoren: This domain name expired on Mar 05, 2009 Click here to renew it.20:37
norenyes i know thats what i got20:37
sithlord48sams as in the books ?20:38
geniisithlord48: Possibly Surface to Air Missiles  ?  ;)20:38
yaa__sams as in the books ?-----sams for billing20:38
sithlord48sorry i know nothing about sams for billing...20:39
kaddijust for information: I just killed FF and my sound is back. Probably a bug in FF somewhere, because I couldn't play any sound with it either20:39
jtholmesme thinkith his english has improved20:40
alepotyaa__: nothing in the repository20:40
yaa__thats a pity20:40
ikoniawhat are you actually looking for ?20:40
yaa__yeah i know about the repository20:40
yaa__me?20:40
ikoniayes20:41
yaa__looking for a person who may help me with sams20:41
ikoniayaa__: sams what ?20:41
yaa__a moment please20:41
ikoniasure20:42
norensams ??20:42
yaa__SAMS (SQUID Account Management System)20:42
ikoniaah ok, so what's the issue ?20:42
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ikoniaand what version of kubuntu are you using20:42
yaa__dont know how to meke it work20:42
yaa__((20:42
yaa__make20:43
norenyaa__: are u using proxy server ??20:43
yaa__yes20:43
noren!squid20:43
ubottusquid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org20:43
yaa__squid// trying to use))20:43
ikoniayaa__: what verion of kubuntu are you using and what is the problem with squid you are having20:43
alepotyaa__: aptitude search squid20:43
yaa__yes/ i know/ thank u20:43
norenyaa__: have u installed it and now need help configuring it for ur system20:44
yaa__i want to use squid+sams and do not know how to do this(20:44
ikoniayaa__: 1.) what version of ubuntu are you using 2.) what is the problem you are having20:44
yaa__ubuntu 8 1020:44
ikoniayaa__: ok, and what is the problem20:45
yaa__sams))20:45
yaa__is my problem20:45
ikoniawhat is the problem with it20:45
yaa__it refuses to work20:45
ikoniaok - but what is the problem you are having, can you explain20:46
yaa__th e problem is with mysql20:46
ikoniayaa__: ok - can you explain the problem20:46
yaa__it does not want to createa suitable data base20:46
yaa__not in english((20:47
ikoniayou need to create the database your self20:47
yaa__its hard for me20:47
ikoniayaa__: have you tried #ubuntu-ru for russian chat ?20:47
ikoniayaa__: it may be easier in russian20:47
yaa__it s not useful20:47
alepotyaa__: I found this, written by someone whose English is not very good, but it might give you some clues20:48
alepothttp://sams.perm.ru/doc/en/faq.html20:48
amgarchIn9hi, is there some analogue of "rpm -V" verify mode? And "rpm -aV" ?20:48
yaa__ will try to translate/ thank u for helping me20:49
jtholmesikonia how did you determine that his native lang might be russian?20:49
ikoniajtholmes: I am all powerful.....I also checked his isp20:50
jtholmesand how did you do that isp check and can i do similar20:50
alepotwhois on the user (right-click on name )20:51
norenwhois20:51
jtholmesalepot, thanks20:51
jtholmesi know linux not irc20:51
alepotwe seem to have caught right-click from redmond. very useful it is too20:52
toborhi, I switched to a less capable monitor and now I need to reset the X windows resolution from the command line too about 800x600. What command can I use to do that?20:53
tobor*to20:53
alepotsudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:54
rosco_ydoes anyone know how to install moria in ubuntu?20:54
yaa__[506] #ubuntu-ru Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel20:54
yaa__what does that mean&&20:55
yaa__??20:55
toboralepot: erm - that requires a bit more familiarity with that conf file than I have right now.  Or is there simple way to select and set a resolution in that file?20:55
jtholmesyaa__, type  /msg nickserv identify yaa__20:55
jtholmesin that channel20:55
rosco_yyaa__: if you register your nickname with the nickserver, then it is reserved for you20:55
yaa__thank u)20:56
toboralepot: I think the contents of the xorg conf file need to be regenerated from scratch.20:56
rosco_ydoes anyone know where to download audio drivers for the Realtek ALC888 chipset?20:57
toborIIRC kubuntu generates an xorg file at install time. i want to redo that part of the process.20:57
noren!speed20:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about speed20:58
noren!boot20:58
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto20:58
rosco_ytobor: what video card are you using?20:58
jtholmestobor, believe xorg.conf if very minimal these days, and most of the info is dynamically obtained20:58
rosco_yor rather, is it ATI, NVIDIA etc?20:58
geniitobor: That would usually be something like  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       with a -phigh switch will usually only prompt for minimal questions like resolution, etc. However I'm not sure to what extent the xorg.conf file is actually even being used anymore.20:58
jtholmesif=is20:59
rosco_yI believe the ATI control panel modifies the conf.org file20:59
rosco_ysetting resolutions, etc20:59
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rosco_yI think it was a little clumsy (the output in the file), but it worked, to a point20:59
toborrosco_y: not sure, been 3-4 years since i opene d the case. :)21:00
toborgenii: gracias21:00
jtholmesi tend to agree w/genii xorg.conf not used much these days unless you manually code and then i think that info overrides dynamic21:00
sithlord48i second that as my xorg has some tweaking done to it (like dpi forced)21:01
tobor rosco_y ATI Rage 12821:01
sithlord48wow i got the same card in my G3mac21:01
rosco_yCan anyone tell me where to download Realtek drivers for linux--I keep getting run around into the "Driver Dective" crap21:01
rosco_yerm, Detective, even21:01
toborjtholmes: thanks21:01
sithlord48rosco_y: sound card ?21:01
rosco_ysithlord48: y21:02
rosco_yno, on-board21:02
rosco_yRealtek ALC88821:02
rosco_yaudio tho, yes21:02
jtholmestobar sure but wont hurt to try genii's suggestion just save  xorg.conf first jic21:02
sithlord48rosco_y: i have almost the same onboard on my other comp and it gets detected correctly21:02
rosco_ysithlord48: I was wondering about that--it's correctly identified in Alsamixer--would that indicate that it is actually being driven correctly?21:03
rosco_ymaybe I need to be looking elsewhere for the reason I'm getting no audio21:03
alepotrosco_y: what does `lspci | grep -i audio` say21:03
rosco_yalepot: brb21:03
sithlord48try checking kmix make sure your not muted and the right channel is selected as master21:04
alepotthat's most likely if alsamixer sees it21:04
rosco_y00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia21:04
rosco_y01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller21:04
rosco_ythat was my output21:04
alepotAh - two sound devices - its got its knoickers in a twist21:05
rosco_yI just swapped out my old motherboard and cpu, now it's not working21:05
rosco_yalepot: what should I do21:05
alepotI disbled one of the devices in the BIOS, or blacklisted the module that wasnt required, can't remember which21:06
norenswapped motherboard and cpu thats really fasst21:06
rosco_yin the bios hey...21:06
rosco_ynoren:21:06
rosco_ythat's what I just tried to do too...now nothing works :(((21:06
alepotrosco_y: be aware that disabling in the BIOS in't always effective. You may have tyo go the blacklist route21:07
alepotlsmod | grep snd21:07
rosco_yalepot: how do you blacklist?21:07
Xeronhey guys whats the install fix command its like apt-get -f install or something21:08
alepotyou need to find out which module shouldn't be loaded, if there is one21:08
alepotXeron: sudo apt-get -f install21:08
julia_ex-xphi, i cannot ping my router with a static ip. does anyone know what to do?21:08
sithlord48julia_ex_xp: on the computer ur using now ?21:09
XeronE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)21:09
XeronE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?21:09
Xeronsudo apt-get -f install is broken21:10
julia_ex-xpno, I'm surfing with windows I'm a linux newbie21:10
Xeronmy girlfiriend busted it21:10
alepotXeron: you need to be root - hence the `sudo`21:10
sithlord48xeron: you have adept_manager running. ?21:10
Xeroni did sudo21:10
Xeronnope21:10
sithlord48julia_ex-xp: you get no sort of net connection under linux ?21:10
Xeronshe was trying to install sunjava lol21:10
alepotXeron: do you become root if you run `sudo -i`?21:10
Xeronyeah im root21:11
Xeronroot still works21:11
alepotand the command still fails?21:11
julia_ex-xpI cannot ping the router, exactly and thus I do not have internet21:11
rosco_yalepot: no, you just run the command with root privileges21:11
sithlord48xeron: that error is usually from trying to run more then one instance of a package manager.... check to make sure you have no others running  (threads included)21:11
agai just found out that when i close the lead of my lappy and get the pc back, then my wireless does not really work (says unmanaged) and i need to reboot21:11
Xeronallrite but i just rebooted21:11
rosco_ysafer than logging in as root...21:12
Xerontheirs not other instances of apt manager or synaptic running21:12
sithlord48julia_ex-xp: wired ? or wireless ?21:12
agadunno how to find out what's happening21:12
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sithlord48Xeron: and this is across a reboot ?21:12
julia_ex-xpsithlord48 old way: wired21:12
alepotrosco_y: sure, I was wondering whether there was something wroing with hois user account...21:12
Xeronwell theirs no other installs running21:12
jtholmesaga what does the network icon in the tray are say about the connection when you open it21:12
rosco_yXeron: 'ps | grep syn' will show processes running with 'syn' in them21:12
alepotXeron: there may be a stale lock file kicking around21:13
sithlord48julia_ex-xp,did you try it w/ dhcp ever ?21:13
cerecitasjtholmes:  right now works fine, before it was saying "unmanaged" for both eth0 and wlan021:13
Xeronnada21:13
cerecitashey Xeron how you doing :)21:13
rosco_ydoes anyone recommend upgrading to 64 bit linux?21:13
Xeronsup cerecitas ;)21:13
rosco_yeagles0513875: are you still here?21:14
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Xeronjust tryin to figure out why my apt-get -f instal isent workin21:14
julia_ex-xpthe router has static ips and I'm using this router with one linux pc and 2 other windows pcs, thus it shouldnt be a problem with the router21:14
jtholmescerecitas, i always set network/interfaces up manually after first login and then is can ifup/ifdown the interfaces when problems occur21:14
cerecitasarrived late... the error message is that one of cannot get lock blabla?21:14
jtholmesis=I21:14
sithlord48julia_ex-xp , i would agree with that...21:14
cerecitasi have it configured to connect automatically, once i hibernated and when back worked fine21:14
cerecitastoday i am not sure of what i did, just closed the lid... and when i came back surprise!!!!21:15
Xeronk think i figured it out21:15
|PaperTiger|Anyone here know a lot about CLI codes?21:15
sithlord48julia_ex-xp, does lwhw show your network adaptor as unclamed21:15
cerecitasbut lately my network is doing all the weird things one can imagine... so go figure...21:15
jtholmescerecitas, welcome to open source :)21:15
alepotXeron: what was the problem?21:15
sithlord48|papertiger|, a little whats up ?21:15
cerecitasheheh jtholmes21:15
rosco_y|PaperTiger|: never heard of them...what are they?21:15
cerecitasthe world of the weird errors jtholmes?21:16
cerecitas:p21:16
Xeronwell my girlfriend was trying to install sunjava 621:16
jtholmescerecitas, yes and heaps of them21:16
Xeronand the file chanceled halfway through the install due to crash21:16
Xeroncuz 9.4b blowz21:16
Xeronlol21:16
jtholmes|PaperTiger|, as in command line interface?21:16
cerecitashihihi... as long as they can be fixed with a reboot...21:16
sithlord48Xeron: have you restarted since then ?21:16
cerecitasare you using 9.4 nine Xeron?//21:16
Xeronanyway i fixed the partial install but now i cant even get sunjava to instal21:16
cerecitas-nine21:16
alepotXeron: so what fixed it?21:16
|PaperTiger|sithlord48 Want to set up my dual screen, but using Catalyst Control Centre doesn't work, so I thought I'd try CLI. I have a set of instructions but wanted to know the format :)21:16
Xeronyeah im using 9.4 lol21:16
|PaperTiger|jtholmes, yes21:16
Xeroni just apt-get -f install21:17
muxomor_ Hallo, i encountred a problem with iwpriv command - while reading from /etc/network/interfaces it says Invalid command :set failed to bring wlan0(wireless connection i have)21:17
sithlord48|papertiger|, got a link ?21:17
Xeronfixed my problem but now i cant even download sunjava its as if its broken on the server or something21:17
Xeronill take a look around i just needed help rembering what the command was21:17
|PaperTiger|It's not from a link, but terminal21:17
Xeronits ben a while sence i had to fix that sort of a problem21:17
muxomor_But i wrote there correctly, and it works with wlan0, but doesnt work with wlan121:17
Xeronanyway thanks guys ill figure it out from here21:17
|PaperTiger|I can do the Ubuntu paste thing sithlord4821:17
sithlord48|papertiger|, you can send me a link or if its a lot of text pm it to me21:18
cerecitasnot really sure of how it works with 9.04 xeron.. maybe in #ubuntu+121:18
rosco_ydoes anyone know why I can only configure two desktops in my pager?21:18
toborgenii: i did the dpkg command you suggested. that got rid of the hi-res display modelines. Thanks.  Now I wont melt down my display! :-)21:18
|PaperTiger|I'll do Ubuntu paste and link you21:18
cerecitasanyways, does apt work at all for you?21:19
rosco_yIt lets me select more, but only two are saved21:19
rosco_yI really like apt, yes21:19
rosco_yworks like a charm, in my opinion21:19
jtholmesrosco_y, have you tried synaptic21:19
yiannissince i upgrade to kubuntu 8.10 i have no sound21:19
cerecitasyiannis:  no sound at all or no sound when you try to play some music?21:20
yiannisnow with 9.04 the same21:20
alepotyiannis: run alsamixer and check that your sound is not muted21:20
|PaperTiger|sithlord48, http://paste.ubuntu.com/141676/21:20
rosco_yjtholmes: I did use synaptic before...I think with another distro21:20
yiannisno sound at all21:20
|PaperTiger|sithlord48, I want to set it up as an extended desktop21:20
yiannisi have tried almost everything i have found in internet21:21
jtholmesrosco_y, i use synaptic and apt-XXX and like both  i use synaptic for updates to pkgs21:21
sithlord48|papertiger|, was just about to ask that21:21
|PaperTiger|sithlord48, :)21:21
alepotyiannis: has your sound card been detected?21:21
|PaperTiger|sithlord48, I just need to know a bit more about the format of CLI21:21
|PaperTiger|yiannis, open the sound mixer and make sure nothing is muted21:21
|PaperTiger|yiannis, also, put all volumes up. See if that helps21:22
jtholmescerecitas, did you ask a quest about apt21:22
yiannisnothing of these helped21:22
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alepotyiannis: what is the ooutput of lspci | grep -i audio21:23
cerecitashmmm it was to Xenon21:23
cerecitasbut apparently he has left21:23
yiannisaudio output i have HDA intel (alc880 analog), HDA intel (alc880 digital), Pulseaudio21:24
cerecitasim doing a few things at a time21:24
rosco_yIs anyone using Monodevelop on 64 bit ubuntu?21:24
alepotyiannis: and where do you see that?21:24
yiannisyiannis@KDE4-TEST:~$ lspci | grep -i audio21:24
yiannis00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)21:24
yiannissettings multimedia21:25
alepotOK, so the system found it. what does lsmod | grep snd say?21:25
yiannisfrom windows partition souncard is realtek21:26
darlisonoi21:26
yiannisanyone alse any idea?21:28
alepotyiannis: Windows aysd all sorts of things. what about telling us whjat ythe output of lsmod | grep snd is.21:28
ubuntu_hi@all21:29
yiannissnd_hda_intel         435636  221:29
yiannissnd_pcm_oss            46336  021:29
yiannissnd_mixer_oss          22656  1 snd_pcm_oss21:29
yiannissnd_pcm                82948  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss21:29
yiannissnd_seq_dummy          10756  021:29
yiannissnd_seq_oss            37760  021:29
yiannissnd_seq_midi           14336  021:29
yiannissnd_rawmidi            29696  1 snd_seq_midi21:29
yiannissnd_seq_midi_event     15104  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi21:30
yiannissnd_seq                56880  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event21:30
yiannissnd_timer              29704  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq21:30
yiannissnd_seq_device         14988  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq21:30
yiannissnd                    62628  13 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device21:30
alepotOK, so the module is loaded.21:30
yiannissoundcore              15200  1 snd21:30
yiannissnd_page_alloc         16904  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm21:30
ubuntu_I need help because installing kubuntu I probably damaged grub and now on boot it doesn't work21:30
jussi01!paste | yiannis21:30
ubottuyiannis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:30
cerecitasok bedtime have a nice evening21:31
jtholmesubuntu_, what exactly does not work21:31
alepotyiannis: when you run alsamixer, are you absolutely sure that there are NO MM characters below the columns and that the volumes are turened up?21:32
alepot*turned21:32
ubuntu_jtholmes: it doesn't load the menu where choose the OS it say Error 1421:32
yiannishttp://paste.ubuntu.com:80/141680/21:33
yoritomohello all21:34
yiannisalepot: yes am sure21:34
yianniseverything are up21:34
yoritomoi have a problem with the java plugin for firefox, i installed icedtea6-plugin as in the doc but not working on yahoo games21:34
alepotubuntu: boot from a live CD and run  sudo grub-install <root device>21:35
alepotyiannis: in that case I can't help further. sorry21:36
yiannisthanks anyway21:36
alepotubuntu: <root device> should be something like /dev/sda21:36
yiannisi cant imagine i have no sound in kubuntu any more21:37
alepotyiannis: a reboot, or logout and login, doesnt help?21:37
yiannisno my friend21:37
yiannisubuntu and kubuntu 8.04 worked fine21:38
yiannisand the privious21:38
ubuntu_how can I choose the root device21:39
picketfenceKubuntu is giving me a problem with Java21:39
picketfenceI can't keep it in my path.21:39
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jtholmesubuntu_, how many hard drives do you have?21:40
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ubuntu_I have 1 HD but 4 sdb...21:40
yiannis<picketfence> Kubuntu is giving me a problem with Java I HAVE THE SAME21:40
yoritomohow to make working java plugin in my firefox under kde ?21:40
jtholmesubuntu_, then your root should be  /dev/sda21:41
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alepotyiannis: I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567642 Does it help?21:41
picketfence:yiannis: I've done something before to put java in my path, but then when I exit the terminal, it's gone again.21:41
jtholmesrun it just like alepot said21:41
ubuntu_jtholmes, no sda is probably my extern device, i partitioned my sdb in ntfs ext4 ext4 swap21:42
alepotpicketfence echo "export PATH='$PATH:<path to java'" >> ~/.bashrc21:43
ubuntu_i think that the mounting point should be sdb2 the first ext4 sdb3 is for /home21:43
jtholmesubuntu_, you said you had one hard drive is sdb a USB stick21:43
alepotubuntu: not the mount pint - the device, you want it in the boot partition21:43
alepot*s/partition/sector/21:44
jtholmesalepot, i think he has sda and sdb hard drives and loaded linux on sdb21:44
picketfence:alepot: Does that have to be done as sudo?21:44
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ubuntu_uhhm.. how can I show the HD partition21:45
alepotpicketfence: no as the user who wants to maintain the path. If you want that to be syystem wide stick it in /etc/bash.bashrc21:45
DHGEj debian21:46
alepotubuntu: sudo fdik -l /dev/*21:46
alepots/*/sd*21:46
rosco_yubuntu_: sudo fdisk -l21:47
alepotI'm logging off - my spelling is useless!21:47
rosco_yalepot: I also am fluent in typo21:48
picketfence:alepot: That is what the ">> ~/,bashrc" is for? Or do I have to use the full path? (/etc/bash.bashrc)21:48
yiannisalepot thanks21:48
yiannisi will triy it21:49
jtholmesubuntu_, do you know how to paste output of a command to pastebin21:50
picketfence:alepot: I'm getting Permission Denied.21:50
alepotpicketfence: if you just want it for a user, then use the command as I gave it to you. If you want it to be a system-wide change, better just to put the path statement into /etc/bash.bashrc with a text editor. You'll need to become root to do that21:50
picketfenceoic21:50
ubuntu_jtholmes: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/141694/21:51
ubuntu_but is not usefull21:51
jtholmesubuntu_,  paste this command   fdisk -l21:51
jtholmesas root  (sudo)21:51
ubuntu_of course ;)21:52
ubuntu_jtholmes: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/141695/21:53
picketfence:alepot: Sorry for being so difficult, but now that I'm in /etc/bash.bashrc, where do I put the path?21:53
alepotpicketfence: do you know where java is?21:54
picketfence:alepot: Yes, I know the full path.21:54
ubuntu_jtholmes, as I said the sda is an external device (500GB eSATA disk), in the sdb1 I have win sdb2 /  sdb3 /home  sdb4 swap21:54
alepotok, so go to the bottom of the bfile, then insert PATH=$PATH:path to java21:55
sithlord48 ok later all i will check in later.21:55
picketfenceAh, ok.21:55
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alepotnote that is not the path to the jav executable but the directory it is in21:55
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jtholmesubuntu_, does you machine boot off the external hard drive?21:56
picketfence:alepot: Thanks for telling me. I would have messed it up. :-)21:56
otmis there a way to use wget to find out your own external IP addr?21:56
alepothaving done that, you wiull need to logout before you see the change, unless you do `. /etc/bash.bashrc`21:56
|REz|jtholmes: I changed nick, boot off?21:56
otmor another simple command?21:56
alepotthats dot space slash21:56
yoritomoyahoo game asking me to install  java, but i installed icedtea6-plugin for my firefox :s21:57
picketfence:alepot: I'll reboot. Then I'll come back and let you know if it worked.21:57
jtholmes|REz|, what machine are you booted off now21:57
alepotno need to reboot21:57
alepotthis isnbt windows21:57
|REz|live cd21:57
geniiotm: Just visit any number of websites which will tell you21:57
Himanshu#sqlfusion21:58
|REz|probably grub search to boot the sda21:58
|REz|how can I change it to sdb?21:58
jtholmes|REz|, doubt it, you installed linux on sdb it probably altered that MBR21:58
geniiotm: http://www.whatismyip.com/  or http://www.ip-adress.com/  or http://whatismyipaddress.com/    etc etc21:59
jtholmes|REz|, so the problem is a little bit sticker21:59
alepototm: try ifconfig $EXTIF | grep "inet addr" | sed -e 's@^.*inet addr:@@' | awk '{ print $1}'`"  where EXTIF is your external interface21:59
|REz|grub was alredy installed I rewrite the sdb221:59
|REz|I change from ubuntu to kubuntu22:00
nuriahn922:00
nuriaalguien habla español?22:00
jtholmes|REz|, was grub working under ubuntu22:01
|REz|ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls /boot/grub/22:01
|REz|device.map22:01
|REz|I don't think :S22:02
Idhannuria: yo22:04
IdhanI know is not the right channel but.. does anybody work with neatbeans c++ ??22:05
IdhanI presume some c++ developer must be here around..22:05
Himanshu@idhan22:08
HimanshuI have worked for neatbeans for while22:09
Himanshumay be I can help you out22:09
IdhanHimanshu: how can I compile a project in parallel?? is a feature very popular today but I cann't find it in netbeans 6.522:09
otmif I use my network N as an ssh tunnell, how does my laptop L know which machine (N:1-254) to connect through :S22:14
otm?22:17
julia_ex-xpHi I cannot ping my router. maybe you can help me22:21
julia_ex-xpthe router has fix IPs and so has my pc. the gateway and the IP of the pc is correct but I cannot ping the pc22:22
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foxfireHello.  Just installed Hardy with Firefox 3 - won't play youtube videos. any suggestions?22:24
EagleScreenyes, install flashplugin22:25
norenhi is using preload any good in kubuntu22:29
EagleScreenpreload?22:30
noren!info preload22:30
ubottupreload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-5 (intrepid), package size 31 kB, installed size 180 kB22:30
ramonhi ho22:32
ramongreets from Barcelona22:32
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EagleScreenhi22:32
EagleScreennoren: preload is not used by default in kubuntu22:33
norenEagleScreen: i just installed it now trying tofind some info if i have to configure it22:35
josh-l_how can I run syndaemon on kde start?22:36
EagleScreenjosh-l_: systemsettings->Advanced22:37
josh-l_eagles0513875: got it thx22:37
legodudewhat's the proper way to do an ecrypted folder - ecryptfs?22:45
sprositHello. Can I disable .pdf preview in dolphin?22:48
stefantest22:55
stefan#neu22:55
jtholmesstefan, your question arrived23:02
bobosoif i want to add alias for my bash shell would i modify /root/.bashrc if i want the alias to effect all users?23:10
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amgarchIn9anybody knows if kde 4.2.1 will ever be ported to Intrepid?23:18
amgarchIn9boboso: no, this will only affect root23:19
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bobosoamgarchIn9: thought so23:20
bobosois there .bashrc that will affect other users or do i modify a ./bashrc config for each user?23:21
balsahello everyone! I recently switched to kubuntu, just by installing kde as directed from kde website, and I was wondering is it possible to uninstall gnome?23:21
cinexbalsa: not really23:21
Dragnslcr!purekde | balsa23:21
ubottubalsa: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »23:21
amgarchIn9boboso: what kind of alias? trying to sneak other peoples passwords?23:22
balsaubottu: I wouldn't even do it, but I'm desperate for disk space, and I'm afraid to resize my root partition with parted live cd, I heard there can be some problems and you could lose all of your data. How much of disk space does this actually save?23:22
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:22
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bobosoamgarchIn9: no lets say i wanted to do alias rm='rm -i'23:24
amgarchIn9balsa: dont bother, not much23:24
balsa:\ Is there a safe way to resize the root partition?23:24
Dragnslcrboboso- I think it's /etc/bash.bashrc23:24
amgarchIn9boboso: put another script into /etc/profile.d23:24
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threepeathi23:29
threepeatwhats a nice cli hex editor?  DHEX and fb are not listed under apt-cache search23:29
LjLthreepeat: i use khexedit23:35
LjLcan't say i use it a lot23:35
neoandersenhello23:35
neoandersenI am not being able to install libxine1-ffmpeg to listen to my mp3 Help!23:35
neoandersenthe Package Install opens but it remains in 0%23:36
amgarchIn9aptitude install libxine123:37
neoandersenok23:37
neoandersenhow to install the whole packege to watch youtube, mp3 etc?23:38
amgarchIn9just start firefox and wantch it23:38
amgarchIn9*watch23:38
neoandersenit asks for flash plugin23:38
amgarchIn9aptitude search flash23:38
alepotaptitude search flash | grep plugin23:39
amgarchIn9aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree23:39
neoandersenok23:39
neoandersenI know there is a complete pachage to install all these plugins at once but I dont know the command... do you know?23:40
alepotneoandersen: its not been around for some time now23:41
alepotneoandersen: automatix?23:41
neoandersenno, I installed it yesterday but it return an error... then I would like to install it again via terminal....23:42
amgarchIn9neoandersen: aptitude search codec, w32codecs?23:42
alepotaptitude reinstall package23:42
koksy89makedonci ima li23:43
alepot!gr23:43
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes23:43
koksy89makedonci ima li23:44
amgarchIn9!mk23:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mk23:44
koksy89yes23:44
koksy89mk23:44
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neoandersenI found the name in adept: Kubuntu restricted extras....23:44
koksy89ok23:44
koksy89tnanks23:44
amgarchIn9!se23:45
ubottuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se23:45
amgarchIn9whatever23:45
neoandersenI tried again to install "Kubuntu restricted extras" via adept but it failed again...23:46
alepotneoandersen: you say an install failed.; have you tried aptitude -f install23:46
koksy89;)23:46
alepot!paste > neoandersen23:47
ubottuneoandersen, please see my private message23:47
neoandersenI must enter : aptitude -f install kubuntu restricted extras   ?23:47
alepotneoandersen: no. just aptitude  -f install. you need to get the package manager into a sane state23:47
koksy89ima li makedonac23:49
neoandersenwill this command make my package manager work properly?23:49
alepotneoandersen: that is the hope. If you paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com we might be able to figure out what's going wrong23:50
J-_Are there any Kubuntu repos I can enable in Jaunty to get the latest updates and such, or, is it not needed?23:51
alepot!jaunty23:51
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.23:51
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