[15:43] <UnwashedMeme> does 0.3.9 have the ability to start a standard program as a daemon (do the terminal detaching and whatnot)? I've not been able to get that to work...
[15:46] <mbiebl> UnwashedMeme: If the program doesn't fork, it should be no problem
[15:48] <UnwashedMeme> mbiebl: it doesn't fork, but all i ever get is that it exited with error.  Can I have the console logged so i can figure out why?
[15:50] <mbiebl> logd is broken, bu "console output"
[15:50] <mbiebl> should work, when you are on the console
[15:51] <UnwashedMeme> what console should that go to? the one from which i do initctl start?
[15:53] <mbiebl> just try it ;-)
[15:53] <UnwashedMeme> yeah
[15:53] <UnwashedMeme> and i don't get anything
[15:54] <UnwashedMeme> well, i get initctl's output
[15:54] <UnwashedMeme> but nothing beyond its reporting
[15:56] <mbiebl> are you starting it from a tty or a xterm?
[15:56] <UnwashedMeme> over ssh...
[15:57] <UnwashedMeme> so a xterm i suppose?
[15:57] <mbiebl> yeah, that doesn't work
[15:57] <UnwashedMeme> from an actual console might provide better results?
[15:58] <mbiebl> yes
[15:59] <UnwashedMeme> unfortunately not, the same output as from ssh.
[16:01] <mbiebl> Then your process does not produce any output
[16:01] <mbiebl> could you pastebin your job file
[16:02] <UnwashedMeme> yeah, give me one minute
[16:06] <UnwashedMeme> mbiebl:  http://pastebin.com/d58a3983
[16:07] <UnwashedMeme> I've been trying various combinations of daemon (which i take is incorrect because this doesn't fork), service, and console
[16:09] <UnwashedMeme> annotated with a version of detachtty that does http://pastebin.com/d3707d019
[16:12] <mbiebl> UnwashedMeme: does it work if you specify the path to the binary directly in exec
[16:13] <UnwashedMeme> i'll try
[16:13] <mbiebl> instead of building it via env variables
[16:14] <UnwashedMeme> same results
[16:18] <mbiebl> maybe there is a problem with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:19] <mbiebl> you could try to put all this inside a script ... end script section
[16:19] <mbiebl> and if you want to monitor the daemon, use exec, to replace the current shell and respawn instead of service
[16:26] <UnwashedMeme> mbiebl: putting everything in the script (vars and start) didn't seem to change anything.  I'm going to mess with it more later, thanks a lot for the help.