| sonink | Has anyone ever had problems where the X server doesn't allow full resolution and color depth if a system is unable to pull an IP address? Or does this sound like a misdiagnosis? I think it may be due to the connection to the monitor. Is there a way to check X error logs to find the cause? | 00:01 |
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| zoredache | sonink: I think that would be very unusual. | 00:03 |
| kaveh | im using ventrilo, it is voip software | 00:07 |
| kaveh | although i havent gotten my microphone working yet | 00:07 |
| kaveh | logitech usb | 00:08 |
| kaveh | from guitarhero 4 | 00:08 |
| BigMoopies | is it possible to change the little box that Thunar pops up in ? | 00:15 |
| BigMoopies | It's too small, and I always have to resize it. It's annoying. | 00:15 |
| kaveh | anyone able to help me with this - im using alsa + ventrilo. havent got my mic working yet but thats not to worry - i can sit in channels and hear people but there are overtones that didnt occur in windows and i havent found any comment of someting like this on the intarwebz | 00:39 |
| kaveh | anyone able to help? | 00:39 |
| zoredache | kaveh: it really isn't a xubuntu issue that is specific to xubuntu, you probably should consider asking in #ubuntu/#kubuntu if you haven't already. There tends to be more people there, which means you might get help | 00:50 |
| J_Litewski | i can't get Dell's GPG key | 00:50 |
| zoredache | J_Litewski: does Dell even have a gpg key? | 00:51 |
| J_Litewski | yea | 00:51 |
| zoredache | how do you know? | 00:51 |
| J_Litewski | linux.dell.com | 00:51 |
| J_Litewski | for firmware updates | 00:51 |
| kaveh | thankyou zoredache | 00:52 |
| zoredache | J_Litewski: do you have a link to the repository? | 00:53 |
| J_Litewski | i got this:http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware | 00:54 |
| J_Litewski | that tells me how to do this | 00:54 |
| J_Litewski | whats 8.04 codename? | 00:55 |
| zoredache | hardy | 00:55 |
| zoredache | this looks like the gpg key... http://linux.dell.com/repo/GPG-KEY-dell | 00:56 |
| J_Litewski | i've been trying to download it, it says i don't have permissions | 00:57 |
| zoredache | how are you trying to download it? | 00:57 |
| J_Litewski | so, i'm going to import Hardy's universe list and try again | 00:57 |
| J_Litewski | sudo wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/firmware/bootstrap.cgi | bash | 00:59 |
| J_Litewski | damnit, that didnt work | 00:59 |
| J_Litewski | this is the messages i'm getting from the terminal: | 01:00 |
| zoredache | the problem there is that the 'sudo' doesn't also persist through the pipe | 01:00 |
| zoredache | so your wget gets to run as root, but the bash command is only running as yourself | 01:00 |
| zoredache | Dell is probably assuming that you are using a root shell like you would get if you run the command (sudo -i) | 01:00 |
| J_Litewski | so i need to run bash as sudo too? | 01:01 |
| J_Litewski | sudo wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/firmware/bootstrap.cgi | sudo bash | 01:01 |
| zoredache | do an sudo -i all by itself and you'll get a real root shell | 01:01 |
| zoredache | then just use the line they gave you | 01:01 |
| J_Litewski | i don't feel safe running solely as root | 01:02 |
| J_Litewski | can i reverse sudo -i? | 01:02 |
| zoredache | when you are done, close the window or type exit | 01:02 |
| zoredache | it would only exist for that shell/terminal/session | 01:02 |
| J_Litewski | sudo wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/firmware/bootstrap.cgi | sudo bash works too | 01:03 |
| zoredache | I can imagine unusual cases where the pipe might not work... But if it works for you, then that is fine | 01:03 |
| J_Litewski | i don't like the full root idea | 01:04 |
| J_Litewski | that scares me | 01:04 |
| zoredache | I don't see how it makes a big difference | 01:04 |
| zoredache | you are running the script as root either way | 01:05 |
| J_Litewski | but i don't run everything as root | 01:05 |
| zoredache | I am not asking you to run everything as root... | 01:05 |
| J_Litewski | if i did sudo -i and forgot about it, i would sudo everything i did | 01:05 |
| zoredache | no you wouldn't | 01:05 |
| J_Litewski | since i usually keep my terminal open | 01:06 |
| zoredache | plus it is pretty clear, if you just look at the prompt | 01:06 |
| zoredache | a root prompt will have roots username, and your prompt will have yours | 01:06 |
| J_Litewski | ah | 01:06 |
| zoredache | and how hard is it to type 'exit' when you are done? *shrugs* I don't care though... I am off to get dinner | 01:07 |
| zoredache | the biggest thing that may break is that when you do 'sudo' things will inherit your enviroment' when you are in a root shell like you would get with 'sudo -i' the PATH will be a little different, and won't have anything from your personal enviroment | 01:08 |
| J_Litewski | still, i tend to break things | 01:08 |
| n0ah | hey, I installed xubuntu-desktop and I'm wondering how to set up dual display as I have it in gnome | 01:08 |
| zoredache | if something evil happened in your profile, and Dell was sloppy, then you might be letting that evil thing in your profile elevate its privileges | 01:09 |
| * J_Litewski sighs | 01:11 | |
| J_Litewski | i need to install more junk to get the bootstrap_firmware installed... | 01:12 |
| J_Litewski | after i spent most of yesterday trimming the bloat i had | 01:12 |
| J_Litewski | whats kswap0? | 01:21 |
| * diabu hi | 01:50 | |
| J_Litewski | that was wierd... | 02:35 |
| J_Litewski | i didn't have a Applications button for a minute there | 02:35 |
| CloseYetFar | yea dont kill Kswap0 lol | 02:40 |
| CloseYetFar | it stands for Kernal Hard Disk Swap running on processor 0 | 02:41 |
| CloseYetFar | all the processes with k in front of them and low PID are kernel processes | 02:42 |
| ryanbeer | I have a situation on my hands. I installed Xubuntu about 3 weeks ago. I installed Gnome and it is running Compiz. I started kde from terminal, restarted and now when the login screen comes up my keyboard, mouse, and all usb devices lock up. | 02:49 |
| ryanbeer | I meant to say I was running Gnome and it was running Compiz | 02:50 |
| J_Litewski | grrr... i can't seem to update my firmware | 03:01 |
| zoredache | why do you think you need to? | 03:02 |
| J_Litewski | because i like to update stuff like that | 03:02 |
| J_Litewski | i'm thinking about booting up wine and using the windows installer | 03:03 |
| zoredache | good luck with that... That is the type of thing, that if it does fail, is going to fail badly | 03:04 |
| J_Litewski | i know | 03:04 |
| J_Litewski | i did it on an old Toshiba befpre | 03:05 |
| zoredache | why are you trying to fix something that isn't broke? | 03:05 |
| J_Litewski | i'm one of those people that like to make sure that my computer is up to date | 03:06 |
| J_Litewski | including firmware | 03:06 |
| kb3ui | What would be the best way to report a broken link on the Xubunutu website? | 03:18 |
| kb3ui | IRSeekBot: How does one wake the humans here? | 03:26 |
| cody-somerville | kb3ui, File a bug report against the xubuntu-website project | 03:40 |
| kb3ui | Thanks - got your message cody-somerville | 03:48 |
| kb3ui | Would that be on the Launchpad site for Ubuntu? | 03:49 |
| cody-somerville | it would be :) | 03:58 |
| kb3ui | Ok. I've already sent an e-mail to the Ubuntu webmaster, but I realize that's probably someone else. | 03:59 |
| owen1 | i get "550 failed to open file" when trying to get a file from an ubuntu with vsftpd. any clues? | 07:13 |
| cody-somerville | What do you mean? | 07:27 |
| owen1 | cody-somerville: i try to get a file from my server using vsftpd. | 08:02 |
| owen1 | cody-somerville: and probably have permission issues. not sure. | 08:02 |
| tavasti | Is it possible to config Xorg in laptop so that external display can be used to extend display area when connected? | 10:23 |
| tavasti | with xrandr I can turn on second display, but is cannot be placed on right-of, left-of, top, bottom | 10:23 |
| tavasti | xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1680x1600 (desired size 2832x1050) | 10:24 |
| TheSheep | !xinerama | 10:25 |
| ubottu | xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead | 10:25 |
| tavasti | TheSheep, I know how to do it when both displays are connected on boot time | 10:26 |
| TheSheep | xrandr can only use the memory of your video card | 10:27 |
| TheSheep | so it has imits on how large the virtual display can be | 10:27 |
| TheSheep | imits | 10:27 |
| TheSheep | limits | 10:27 |
| tavasti | Ah, so memory is the limit, not config | 10:28 |
| tavasti | VideoRAM: 262144 kByte, Max desktop size set to 2560x1600 | 10:30 |
| tavasti | from Xorg.log | 10:30 |
| TheSheep | xinerama uses different technique, so it's not limited like that | 10:31 |
| tavasti | that value is bigger than given by Xrandr | 10:31 |
| tavasti | would running in 16bpp help? | 10:32 |
| TheSheep | no idea | 10:33 |
| tavasti | !DualHead | 10:33 |
| ubottu | Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama | 10:33 |
| tavasti | tried, adding Xinerama "1" to server flags makes xorg not to work at all | 12:52 |
| tavasti | and DefaultDepth 16 doesn't change anything | 12:52 |
| tavasti | playing with aticonfig helps | 13:34 |
| === vinze is now known as vinnl | ||
| UKGent | TheSheep I don't think that you are ever off-line ! | 15:53 |
| TheSheep | why would I? | 15:54 |
| UKGent | lol er... sleep perhaps or the odd meeting , meals lol mind you - I am getting as bad | 15:55 |
| UKGent | I am having a great 'trolling' campaign - aimed at clearing out as much of my 'friends' list on Facebook as I can manage.... another one gone this morning. I want to build up a worthwhile network of people to converse with - fed up with Facebook lol | 15:57 |
| UKGent | just keep that for family bulletins | 15:57 |
| UKGent | I like the video search on Totem - especially utube ... and is it my imagination but Totem seems to render ubube Vids really clearly ? | 16:30 |
| UKGent | sorry 'utube' | 16:30 |
| UKGent | Freudian slip lol | 16:30 |
| UKGent | When a document is reloaded in the default pdf viewer - it remembers your page and resumes where you left off - Hurray ! | 16:40 |
| TheSheep | yeah, it also remembers the window size and position | 16:42 |
| Slonkie | Anyone know how to load a dictionary into openoffice? It's .otx file, i looked at their site but i were unable to find anything. | 16:42 |
| UKGent | TheSheep which is more than some proprietary systems do - it is things like that , which impress me... | 16:43 |
| TheSheep | good first impression consists of around 700 irrelevant details... | 16:44 |
| Slonkie | Anyone know how to make thunderbird minimize to "tray" (not sure this is the right name in xubuntu :P) | 17:02 |
| UKGent | Don't think it can without some sort of extension | 17:09 |
| Slonkie | well it's getting annoying that i have to use alltray everytime i want to minimize it. | 17:11 |
| UKGent | Slonkie - I was just about to suggest using Alltray | 17:11 |
| UKGent | I am pretty sure that Thunderbird has no native ability to minimise to the Tray | 17:12 |
| Slonkie | all right. | 17:13 |
| Slonkie | guess it can't keep up with outlook 07 then ;P | 17:13 |
| UKGent | There are extensions for Windows but I don't know of one for Linux - I will let you know if I find one ! | 17:13 |
| Slonkie | Thanks UKGent saw those for windows too, stupid they diden't make one for linux too! :( | 17:14 |
| UKGent | Someone should make a suggestion maybe ;( | 17:15 |
| UKGent | Slonkie - have you tried file>Wizards>New Dictionaries ? You might have trouble with this if you are using Compiz visual effects - if this is the case, just disable the effects whilst you use the Wizard | 17:35 |
| UKGent | sorry - it's 'Install New Dictionaries' ... | 17:36 |
| LinusTorvalds | it it normal that the configuration of language-pack-en-base takes over two hours during the installation? | 17:54 |
| LinusTorvalds | 64MB ram, 450MHz processor | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | That would depend on the system. | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | I am surprised that any desktop would install in 64MB ram | 17:55 |
| charlie-tca | and, yes, with that processor and ram | 17:55 |
| LinusTorvalds | ok, thanks | 17:56 |
| charlie-tca | I would suggest using a different name. With that name, you would be expected to be able to explain why that is so. | 17:56 |
| LinusTorvalds | haha, okay | 17:56 |
| UKGent | Perhaps it would have been better to install using the FSF membership card ... | 17:56 |
| === LinusTorvalds is now known as timmy | ||
| UKGent | jk | 17:57 |
| === timmy is now known as Guest4828 | ||
| === Guest4828 is now known as timmy388 | ||
| UKGent | I was going to use Richard Stallman but was persuaded not to | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, normally it is better not to use a living persons name | 17:58 |
| UKGent | charlie - I would never do any such thing really ! It would be nothing short of blasphemy ! | 18:00 |
| moodog | evening :) | 18:02 |
| UKGent | moodog evening - although I will have to take a short break soon in order to cook a meal for myself and my sweet little grey haired Irish Mother (if you think I am kidding about this, you would be wrong) ! | 18:04 |
| Slonkie | there is no "New Dictionaries" in wizards, UKGent. :( | 18:04 |
| UKGent | Slonkie - just something I read - I have not got Open Office on my system at present but I keep meaning to download it - when I do, I will take a look | 18:05 |
| Slonkie | Okay :P | 18:05 |
| * diabu is away: I'm busy | 18:06 | |
| * diabu is back (gone 00:00:06) | 18:06 | |
| * diabu is away: guitar | 18:06 | |
| UKGent | I am glad it does not come ready packaged on xubuntu because it takes an eternity to install as part of a new installation | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | durt: please disable that | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | durt: sorry | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | diabu: please disable that | 18:06 |
| diabu | sorry <- | 18:06 |
| diabu | done | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | thanks :) | 18:06 |
| UKGent | I agree with leaving it to be installed later, rather than bundling it | 18:08 |
| UKGent | brb | 18:16 |
| === emdash_ is now known as emdash | ||
| Slonkie | Anyone in here using pyNeighborhood? :) | 19:08 |
| cody-somerville | Not I | 19:08 |
| cody-somerville | Although I packaged it | 19:08 |
| Slonkie | You know how to mount a network drive in it then? :D | 19:09 |
| Slonkie | or.. it's a windows network share folder | 19:10 |
| cody-somerville | I didn't have too much luck with it personally | 19:13 |
| Slonkie | no me neither | 19:13 |
| CppIsWeird | is there any linux equivalent to this program MemPad, http://home.mnet-online.de/horst.muc/wmem.htm the main feature I am referring to is the ability to create multiple sections in a text document in a tree like structure. | 19:34 |
| === SiDi_made_his_ho is now known as SiDi | ||
| J_Litewski | what is unix2dos? | 19:58 |
| cody-somerville | unix and dos have different file line endings | 19:59 |
| cody-somerville | unix2dos is a tool to convert a text file from unix file line endings to dos ones | 19:59 |
| J_Litewski | ah | 19:59 |
| J_Litewski | is it in the repo? | 19:59 |
| Slonkie | sudo apt-cache search unix2dos ? :P | 19:59 |
| J_Litewski | i need it to flash my lappy's firmware | 19:59 |
| cody-somerville | The package is called tofrodos | 20:00 |
| Slonkie | i see tofrodos when searching | 20:00 |
| J_Litewski | sweet, ty | 20:00 |
| J_Litewski | since dell is too lazy to put the inspiron 1000 firmware updates in there repo, i have to flash in within GRUB | 20:01 |
| J_Litewski | hopefully the new BIOS will fix my MS-BIOS bug i get when i boot | 20:03 |
| Slonkie | hmm anyone know an application to capture pictures with my built in webcam? only place i can see it works is in skype | 20:10 |
| J_Litewski | where would i find memdisk at? | 20:10 |
| J_Litewski | in / | 20:10 |
| cody-somerville | memdisk? | 20:10 |
| J_Litewski | it's part of syslinux | 20:11 |
| J_Litewski | biosdisk needs it in the /boot directory | 20:12 |
| J_Litewski | so i need to copy it from where it's at to /boot | 20:12 |
| cody-somerville | do you mean memtest? | 20:15 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: cheese | 20:16 |
| J_Litewski | no, it says memdisk | 20:16 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: try "easycam" in order to configure your webcam, it works with a lot of webcams. and cheese allows you to record videos and photos | 20:16 |
| J_Litewski | ah, there we goo | 20:16 |
| cody-somerville | J_Litewski, Ubuntu doesn't usually use syslinux to boot | 20:16 |
| cody-somerville | J_Litewski, you found it? awesome :) | 20:16 |
| Slonkie | Thanks SiDi. i'll try it out. | 20:17 |
| J_Litewski | it needs it to load a firmware image | 20:17 |
| Slonkie | easycam is not in the reps :( | 20:17 |
| cody-somerville | Its probably loading dos, J_Litewski :P | 20:17 |
| J_Litewski | since my lappy doesn't have a floppy drive, and i can't find the firmware in dells repo, i need to load the image directly from the HDD | 20:18 |
| J_Litewski | it's quite a stretch, but hopefully it works | 20:18 |
| Slonkie | easycam diden't work, SiDi :( | 20:26 |
| J_Litewski | wish me luck cody-somerville, i'm going to try and flash the bios in GRUB | 20:29 |
| cody-somerville | Good luck! | 20:29 |
| SiDi | Slonkie: What computer do you have ? | 20:31 |
| Slonkie | It's a Acer Aspire 4530 | 20:32 |
| SiDi | Okies | 20:32 |
| J_Litewski | damn | 20:34 |
| J_Litewski | the .exe i used can't be run in DOS mode | 20:35 |
| SiDi | http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+4530#linux+compatibility Slonkie | 20:35 |
| J_Litewski | but, biosdisk made a boot image | 20:35 |
| SiDi | there are drivers out there, but i guess you'll have to search for them :/ | 20:35 |
| Slonkie | okay | 20:35 |
| Slonkie | not that important, i don't really use it anyway | 20:36 |
| J_Litewski | xfce is case sensitive? | 20:41 |
| J_Litewski | or is linux in whole case sensitive? | 20:41 |
| Slonkie | linux in whole | 20:46 |
| samu | Hey there, someone have time to help a first time user? | 20:54 |
| J_Litewski | darn, it didn't work... | 20:55 |
| J_Litewski | at least it didn't complsin snout it not being a dos executable file | 20:55 |
| J_Litewski | *complain about | 20:55 |
| samu | Is someone able to help me with HDD question | 20:56 |
| Slonkie | ??ask | 20:56 |
| Slonkie | please just ask your question, samu. | 20:56 |
| samu | Well, sorry first time here. Okay, I need help, I just installed Xubuntu on my 4.3gb Maxtor drive, but can't see my 160gb drive which contains all windows files | 20:56 |
| samu | Is this even possible? | 20:57 |
| Slonkie | yep | 20:57 |
| Slonkie | you'll have to mount the drive | 20:57 |
| samu | How's that done? | 20:57 |
| J_Litewski | is it a SATA, RAID, or IDE drive? | 20:58 |
| samu | ummm..... SATA , I quess | 20:59 |
| SiDi | samu, post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" in paste.ubuntu.com, please | 20:59 |
| SiDi | we're going to explain you how to setup /etc/fstab for your windows partitions to be automatically mounted (mounted = "loaded") at system start | 21:00 |
| samu | pasted, It's in finnish | 21:01 |
| samu | Sorry | 21:02 |
| SiDi | Give us the link, please :p | 21:02 |
| samu | http://paste.ubuntu.com/141663/ | 21:02 |
| samu | Sorry :) | 21:03 |
| SiDi | ok, what if you type, now, "sudo mkdir /media/Windows && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/Windows -t ntfs-3g" ? | 21:03 |
| SiDi | (if you're more curious about how a command works, you can type "man <command name>" to get the manual for this command, ie. man mkdir and man mount, here ;) ) | 21:04 |
| samu | Creation of media/Windows failed | 21:06 |
| samu | file exists | 21:06 |
| SiDi | haha alright | 21:06 |
| SiDi | type the second part of the command only, then ;) | 21:06 |
| SiDi | This command is just to check that the drive mounts fine in /media/Windows | 21:07 |
| samu | Ok | 21:07 |
| SiDi | then we'll see how to automate the mount operation so that you don't have to do it | 21:07 |
| SiDi | (and btw, it should have been done automatically during the install :o) | 21:07 |
| samu | Well, it Didn't :) | 21:08 |
| samu | now I have done the second command | 21:08 |
| SiDi | damn | 21:08 |
| SiDi | oh, i thought you said "it didnt" about the second command | 21:08 |
| SiDi | what if you go in /media/Windows with your file explorer, now ? Can you see your windows files ? | 21:09 |
| samu | Actually, yes :)) | 21:09 |
| samu | So many thanks to you SiDi :) I appreciate your help very much | 21:10 |
| SiDi | alright | 21:10 |
| SiDi | wait, we didnt finish | 21:10 |
| samu | ? | 21:10 |
| SiDi | now, we'll open the file /etc/fstab that is responsible for mounting the partitions when your system boots | 21:10 |
| SiDi | and add a line that will automatically and definately mount your windows partition for you | 21:10 |
| samu | Ok | 21:11 |
| samu | I have the file open | 21:11 |
| SiDi | type "gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab" in order to open this file with mousepad text editor | 21:12 |
| SiDi | did you open it with gksudo or sudo ? | 21:12 |
| SiDi | it wont let you save it, either | 21:12 |
| SiDi | because only admins can modify it :p | 21:12 |
| SiDi | anyways, add this line : /dev/sda2 /media/Windows ntfs rw,user,auto 0 0 | 21:12 |
| SiDi | then save, and at next boot it should already be mounted | 21:13 |
| samu | Ok thanks :) | 21:13 |
| SiDi | you're welcome | 21:13 |
| SiDi | feel free to come again if you have any questions :) | 21:13 |
| samu | Ok, C'ya :) | 21:13 |
| SiDi | See you | 21:14 |
| J_Litewski | SiDi, how do you remove something from the /boot directory? | 21:14 |
| SiDi | err, with sudo rm ? :P | 21:15 |
| SiDi | (note that i dont know what should NOT be removed :p) | 21:15 |
| J_Litewski | kk, i have two bad flash files in that diredtory | 21:15 |
| sinbox | maybe rename theem insstead J_Litewski instead of deleting, just in case | 21:17 |
| J_Litewski | too late... :p | 21:17 |
| J_Litewski | well, i manually edited the menu.lst and deleted the directories relating to the files | 21:22 |
| SiDi | (dont delete your kernel, btw :D) | 21:25 |
| J_Litewski | i know that :P | 21:26 |
| J_Litewski | these had filenames i gave them | 21:26 |
| J_Litewski | so i knew i could delete thme without any risk | 21:26 |
| J_Litewski | I also did the same thing in windows for years | 21:27 |
| SiDi | See you people | 21:30 |
| J_Litewski | bye SiDi | 21:30 |
| SiDi | have fun with your /boot, J_Litewski :p | 21:31 |
| J_Litewski | will do | 21:31 |
| CppIsWeird | in Thunar i right click on the "Computer" icon and click on the icon and i get a display that says "Select an Icon for "Computer"" which presents me a list of icons. Where are these icons located? | 21:48 |
| cody-somerville | CppIsWeird, probably in /usr/share/pixmaps | 21:52 |
| cody-somerville | or /usr/share/images/ | 21:53 |
| cody-somerville | or something like that | 21:53 |
| CppIsWeird | cody-somerville, i checked there, could not find them there | 21:53 |
| cody-somerville | They're there somewhere :) | 21:53 |
| CppIsWeird | in case anyone else asks, they are in /usr/share/icons/<Theme Name> | 22:17 |
| UKGent | Slonkie - If you have the latest version of Open Office 2.4 - you do just pull down the File Menu, then Wizards and you will see one for adding Dictionaries - simple ! | 23:35 |
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