[14:56] <Mirv> hmm, with the recent language-specific gnome-user-guide packages, Assistive Tools seems to have completely disappeared now. is there a bug / discussion about it going on somewhere?
[14:57] <Mirv> I mean the topic on the Yelp front page, of couse accessibility guide is included also in eg. gnome-user-guide-fi
[14:58] <mdke> Mirv: no, I wasn't aware of that
[14:58] <mdke> Mirv: is the relevant omf file installed in /usr/share/omf/?
[15:00] <Mirv> mdke: it looks like none of the gnome-user-guide-* install anything under that now
[15:01] <Mirv> oh, right, that also means none of the navigation to Gnome docs from Yelp work either
[15:01] <mdke> Mirv: ok, I'll file a bug
[15:02] <Mirv> mdke: ok, thanks, and thanks for the newest ubuntu-docs upload with also updated translations
[15:02] <mdke> Mirv: no worries, I had to hurry that upload through because the previous upload was broken, so I haven't had time to check the translations yet
[15:52] <mdke> man these bug duplicates are coming in thick and fast
[15:52] <mdke> :(
[15:54] <sommer> ya, curses to automatic bug reporting, heh :-)
[15:55] <mdke> i wish ubuntu-docs didn't take over an hour to build, the fix is taking absolutely ages to go to the archive
[15:56] <bhuvan> hi mdke & sommer
[15:57] <sommer> hey bhuvan
[15:57] <bhuvan> a question: in case i wish to commit new fixes to server guide, which branch should i use. i assume i shouldn't commit in ubuntu-jaunty branch
[15:57] <mdke> bhuvan: correct, we are in string freeze now
[15:58] <mdke> bhuvan: I've just pushed up a new branch here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-karmic
[15:59] <bhuvan> mdke: thank you.
[16:00] <bhuvan> sommer: do you have any topics you like to be added for next release in server guide?
[16:01] <bhuvan> i'll be doing some r&d and come up with few new topics to be added in server guide
[16:01] <sommer> bhuvan: ya, I have some ideas, it's on my list to create a blueprint for the karmic serverguide
[16:02] <sommer> bhuvan: I'll try and do that today
[16:02] <bhuvan> glad to hear, sommer
[16:04] <sommer> I think the main ones I had are vpn (openvpn), dynamic dns, chat server (irc, jabber), server monitoring (nagios, munin)
[16:09] <bhuvan> ok sommer
[16:10] <bhuvan> does nagios has configuration utility in command line?
[16:10] <sommer> bhuvan: not that I know of... just config files :)
[16:10] <bhuvan> yeah ok
[16:11] <bhuvan> if you are ok, i can come up with the content for chat servers (irc, jabber)
[17:43] <mdke> nixternal: isn't your email an april fool?
[17:44] <nixternal> yup :)
[17:44] <nixternal> just the first thing about all of us stepping down and the last bit...the rest is read
[17:44] <nixternal> real
[17:45] <mdke> so wtf is scott on about
[17:45] <mdke> oh, his email is part of it too
[17:45] <mdke> cunning
[17:46] <nixternal> oh, I didn't even see his response :)
[17:51] <nixternal> mdke: hahahahhaa, man I just read his response, classic....that was good
[17:51] <mdke> yes, it fooled me
[17:51] <mdke> I had to go to LP to check
[17:51] <nixternal> rofl
[17:51] <nixternal> hahahahahaha
[17:52] <nixternal> I love when that happens....I have been fooled by 1 thus far
[17:52] <nixternal> and that was the Mythbuntu planet post
[17:52] <nixternal> I went and congratulated them all
[17:52] <nixternal> then they said 'hit the .deb download link"...and then a pink bunny popped up and got me :)
[17:54]  * mdke goes to look
[17:54] <mdke> that's quite detailed
[17:55] <nixternal> ya it is...that is why I fell for it
[18:03] <nixternal> mdke: hahahaha, you aren't the only one to fall for it with keybuk's comment
[18:03] <nixternal> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2009-April/002083.html
[18:04] <mdke> wow, he was even fooled by yours
[18:04] <mdke> :p
[18:06] <nixternal> hahahaha, cjwatson fell for it too
[18:06] <nixternal> he was about to reply he said then held up
[18:07] <jpds> Nice one nixternal.
[18:07] <mdke> it was the bit about Launchpad developers that gave it away
[18:07] <nixternal> right
[18:08] <nixternal> and all of us stepping down at once? I thought that might give it away
[18:08] <mdke> anyway, what's the record for bug duplicates? I think I may be approaching it with bug 353117
[18:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 353117 in ubuntu-docs "package ubuntu-docs 9.04.6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353117
[18:09] <nixternal> wth
[18:09] <nixternal> 24 dups
[18:09] <mdke> 24 duplicates
[18:09] <nixternal> my lord
[18:09] <nixternal> I am glad nobody reads the kubuntu-docs :D
[18:10] <nixternal> 0 boogs for us right now
[18:10] <mdke> in a matter of a few hours
[18:25] <sommer> bhuvan: sorry, missed your last comment... sure that would be awesome if you could do the chat servers :)
[19:01] <Mirv> mdke: do you plan on keeping the 75% cut-off rate for the release as well? just curious.
[19:01] <Mirv> I guess we have to push our efforts on the internet section a bit :)
[19:01]  * nixternal always thought it was like 60%
[19:02] <nixternal> I have to give myself a refresher course in importing the translations again...been a while since I did it last
[19:02] <Mirv> I was just looking at the build log to see if there was anything wrong and noticed the 0.75 there. it has varied, I think.
[19:04] <Mirv> anyway, the ubuntu-docs update was smooth all in all. now if only the gnome-user-docs breakage would be fixed, and also yelp translations ("Enabling visual effects" need translations imported from Rosetta to yelp), and finally the Assistive Tools string in gnome-user-docs (when it's first fixed to appear at all)
[19:04] <Mirv> ...everything would start to look quite great
[19:22] <Mirv> ...of which the first one already fixed and now released
[19:27] <mdke> Mirv: yes, we're likely to keep the cut off, as to the exact amount, I'm not sure
[19:27] <mdke> Mirv: the gnome-user-docs bug has been fixed now
[19:30] <mdke> Mirv: I'll do the gnome-user-docs translation import soon, but definitely by the deadline, and for the yelp import you need to bug the desktop team
[19:35] <Mirv> mdke: ok. and I just made sure we pass 75% also :) I haven't filed a bug report for yelp, since when I did it the last time for another release there was a comment that there is no need to file such bugs as translations are imported regularly
[19:35] <Mirv> (unless, of course, the desktop team forgets about since I'm not sure if it's written down anywhere...)
[19:36] <mdke> Mirv: ok, wait until the deadline then file a bug if still not done
[19:36] <Mirv> mdke: I will do so
[20:35] <nixternal> mdke: what is the policy on minor typo fixes with docs immediately after a string freeze? it is still the same right, unless it is severe it doesn't get fixed until next ubuntu release right?
[20:52] <mdke> nixternal: that's the theory, yes
[20:53] <nixternal> ok, just wanted to make sure before I tell people "not now, in karmic"