| CIA-28 | partman-base: cjwatson * r146 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog init.d/parted): init.d/parted: Use more concise syntax for building up lists. | 01:23 |
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| CIA-28 | partman-ext3: cjwatson * r750 ubuntu/ (77 files in 7 dirs): merge from Debian 56 | 11:27 |
| davmor2 | evand, cjwatson: Did ubiquity shrink in size over night? | 11:29 |
| CIA-28 | partman-ext3: cjwatson * r751 ubuntu/debian/changelog: note that ext4 is mounted with relatime too | 11:30 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: I noticed in yesterday's daily build that its window was smaller than before; I assume that this was due to some of Evan's changes in 1.12.0 | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | evand, cjwatson: also use weak password now says ubiquity/text/yes and ubiquity/text/no rather than yes no | 11:31 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: can it not be automated so it's size is reduced on any screen size below 900? | 11:31 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: weak password> that's fixed in 1.12.1 | 11:32 |
| CIA-28 | partman-ext3: cjwatson * r752 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 56ubuntu1 | 11:32 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: screen size hacks generally suck maintenance-wise | 11:32 |
| cjwatson | they make it difficult for us to tell in any reliable way what the interface is actually going to look like for end users | 11:33 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: True hadn't thought of that :) | 11:33 |
| cjwatson | I do think the timezone map is perhaps a little too small now, mind you | 11:33 |
| ogra | depends on your POV :) | 11:34 |
| ogra | on my 800x600 screen on the babbage it cant be to small :) | 11:34 |
| cjwatson | we might want to weight its size up a bit so that GTK feels free to use more space for it if it's available | 11:34 |
| cjwatson | ogra: obviously | 11:34 |
| * cjwatson <- focused on fixing RC bugs thouygh | 11:34 | |
| cjwatson | though | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I like the retrieving file indicator on d-i :) | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | oh, the fix for bug 290234? | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 290234 in apt "Intrepid: Netboot locks up at 2% installing the selected edubuntu desktop" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290234 | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | it's nice to that the machine hasn't locked up :) | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | that's the one :) | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | excellent | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | will make a difference to tasksel too | 11:40 |
| * ogra sighs about dd really tearing down IO performance | 11:43 | |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I'll do a netboot after for now I'm doing standard alternate install :) | 11:44 |
| cjwatson | yeah, it'll make a much bigger difference to netboot | 11:45 |
| ogra | cjwatson, hmm, i see mdz's bug that offers to unmount the installer medium on the babbage | 11:56 |
| ogra | wasnt that supposed to be fixed ? | 11:56 |
| ogra | and the partman UI asks me where i want to place $(RELEASE) (instead of showing the actual release name) | 11:57 |
| cjwatson | ogra: no, I'm working on that bug right now actually | 11:58 |
| ogra | ah, k | 11:58 |
| cjwatson | ogra: $(RELEASE)> can you give me the exact string so that I can grep for it? | 11:58 |
| ogra | the screen size changes are awesome btw | 11:58 |
| ogra | hmm, i'm already advanced, lets see if i can cancel | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | ogra: installer medium> the only thing that was fixed from that set of bugs so far is that the button behaviour is now more saner | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | sane | 11:59 |
| ogra | ah | 11:59 |
| CIA-28 | user-setup: cjwatson * r167 ubuntu/debian/ (62 files in 2 dirs): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad. | 12:00 |
| ogra | hrm, we dont have a cancel button ... i wonder how to kill it | 12:00 |
| * ogra just resets the board | 12:01 | |
| ogra | ga, this time it doesnt let me unmount anything | 12:09 |
| ogra | and drops me directly into a manual partitioning window | 12:09 |
| ogra | (i didnt have the target device unmounted in advance this time, had done that last time) | 12:10 |
| ogra | cjwatson, aha, seems to be a translation issue "Where do you want to put Ubuntu 9.04?" i used german before and there it said $(RELEASE) instead of Ubuntu 9.04 | 12:14 |
| * ogra tries a german once again to confirm ... | 12:15 | |
| ogra | its fine in english | 12:15 |
| ogra | cjwatson, "Wo möchten Sie $(RELEASE) platzieren?" | 12:18 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: you might know this how hard would it be to get the mini.iso's renamed? as in mini-i386.iso mini-amd64.iso | 12:27 |
| davmor2 | currently they are all called mini.iso | 12:29 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: I'd prefer not since there are all sorts of things that would have to be renamed if we went down that road. Just rename them on the client side | 12:35 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: I do I just wondered about it is all :) | 12:36 |
| CIA-28 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1078 ubuntu/ (35 files in 2 dirs): Update help text translations from Launchpad. | 12:37 |
| CIA-28 | user-setup: cjwatson * r168 ubuntu/user-setup-ask: /target -> $ROOT | 12:37 |
| cjwatson | ogra: oh, idiot translators. $(RELEASE) -> ${RELEASE} | 12:38 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I'll get that fixed using my magic rosetta-admins powers | 12:38 |
| ogra | cjwatson, the other thing is more worrying, but i want to finish my test install now to see the bootloader stuff first before filing a bug | 12:39 |
| CIA-28 | user-setup: cjwatson * r169 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.23ubuntu16 | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I'm not really worried about the partitioning bit since I'm completely rewriting that code anyway | 12:39 |
| ogra | well, it didnt unmount anything and presented an empty partitioning window | 12:40 |
| ogra | but your call | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | I wouldn't mind looking at logs, but chances are it's covered | 12:40 |
| ogra | ok | 12:41 |
| ogra | :-'( it crashed | 12:52 |
| ogra | cjwatson, i see "No bootloader installer found" again | 12:53 |
| ogra | lol ... ubiquity has NSLU2 support now ? heh | 12:55 |
| ogra | cjwatson, oh, archdetect still returns "armel/unknown" ... | 13:00 |
| ogra | indeed that cant work | 13:00 |
| NCommander | ogra, odd, base-installer should have been updated to catch that | 13:02 |
| NCommander | ogra, what does /proc/cpuinfo say? | 13:02 |
| ogra | the usual babbage stuff | 13:02 |
| NCommander | Hrm ... | 13:03 |
| NCommander | archdetect works against libdebian-installer to determine the subarchitecture | 13:03 |
| NCommander | ogra, what version of libdebian-installer is installed? | 13:04 |
| ogra | none | 13:05 |
| ogra | ah | 13:05 |
| ogra | 0.61ubuntu1 | 13:05 |
| ogra | libdebian-installer4 is the package name | 13:05 |
| jtholmes | I would like to talk to someone about bug 349173 i believe the sense of the choice is backwards | 13:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349173 in ubiquity "weak-password dialog should be Yes/No" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349173 | 13:05 |
| NCommander | ogra, imx51 support landed in 0.61ubuntu2 | 13:05 |
| ogra | yes, i see that | 13:06 |
| NCommander | ogra, there's your problem :-) | 13:06 |
| ogra | well, i'll wait | 13:06 |
| NCommander | ogra, you could just apt-get install libdebian-installer4 and get the new version :-) | 13:06 |
| ogra | if thats in the archive already | 13:07 |
| NCommander | ogra, its uploaded | 13:07 |
| ogra | mind you, thats tonights build | 13:07 |
| NCommander | Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:54:26 +0000 | 13:07 |
| ogra | not there yet | 13:09 |
| NCommander | huh? | 13:09 |
| ogra | already the newest version ... | 13:09 |
| NCommander | oh | 13:10 |
| * NCommander rescores on ARM | 13:10 | |
| NCommander | There's your problem :-) | 13:10 |
| ogra | yeah, needs building :) | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | that was uploaded ages ago. How come it hadn't built yet? | 13:10 |
| NCommander | ogra, ok, its bumped in the build queue | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: please explain? | 13:11 |
| ogra | busy buildd i guess | 13:11 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, ARM had a bit of a buildd backlog, if I noticed it hadn't built, I would have rescored it ages ago. | 13:11 |
| NCommander | s/had/has/g | 13:11 |
| ogra | arent we in archive rebuild as well atm ? | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | archive rebuilds happen on separate buildds | 13:11 |
| ogra | that might keep them busy | 13:11 |
| NCommander | ogra, libdebian-installer should have taken presentant | 13:11 |
| ogra | ah | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | surely? | 13:11 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, mass givebacks don't | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | sure, but that isn't a full rebuild | 13:11 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, and armel been plowing through universe with a builder down. | 13:11 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, when you have 600 FAILED/DEPWAIT? | 13:12 |
| cjwatson | still not a full rebuild, I'm not denying that it keeps it busy :) | 13:12 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I'm just curious when we're going to get the last arm builder back, we're down one, and its showing | 13:12 |
| ogra | send your babbage to infinity ;) | 13:12 |
| NCommander | ogra, my babbage is going to FSL | 13:13 |
| NCommander | I think the magic smoke blew the SD slot, because I can't get it to work reliably | 13:13 |
| ogra | oh, why is that ? | 13:13 |
| NCommander | ogra, I had the magic smoke escape ;.; | 13:13 |
| ogra | ouch | 13:13 |
| NCommander | Yeah | 13:13 |
| jtholmes | cjwatson, there really isnt a question in the dialog, there are basically two statements and then the Yes No choices No lets you change the password and Yes takes you to Ready to install dialog | 13:13 |
| ogra | i thought that was only the UART | 13:13 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: does it not say "Use weak password?" in the title? | 13:13 |
| NCommander | ogra, the UART works oddly enough, but I've yet to successful start a d-i image, and my SD cards seem to be OK | 13:14 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: the sense is not backwards AFAICS, but it could probably do with clearer labelling | 13:14 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: you're correct in ubiquity the text does look wrong I've gotten use to the text in d-i which says use weak password | 13:14 |
| NCommander | ogra, the board starts, but then promptly fails with filesystem/SD card errors | 13:14 |
| jtholmes | cjwatson, the words 'use weak password' do not exist in that dialog | 13:15 |
| cjwatson | let me fire up a vm and have a look | 13:16 |
| NCommander | libdebian-installer is now building, so it should be in the next publisher run :-) | 13:16 |
| NCommander | (assuming it doesn't FTBFS ...) | 13:16 |
| jtholmes | cjwatson, ok thanks | 13:16 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: the text in the dialogue for use weak password reads "You entered a password that consists of less than eight characters, which is considered too weak. You should choose a stronger password. (no) (yes) | 13:16 |
| jtholmes | the action Yes No are correct the Text is a little skewed | 13:18 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I mailed ubuntu-translators@ about the translation problem; similar things affect rather more languages than I'd hoped, for a variety of strings | 13:18 |
| jtholmes | Yes moves you forward No lets you change the password | 13:18 |
| jtholmes | that behavior is correct | 13:18 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, anyway, w.r.t. to your question about archive rebuilds, they hwerer traditionally done on ubuntuwire, but they haven't been done since early intrepid as far as I know | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: are you installing Ubuntu or Kubuntu? | 13:19 |
| jtholmes | kubuntu | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: aside from the way they were traditionally done in dak ... | 13:19 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: it's good to mention that up-front rather than me wasting time with the wrong frontend :( | 13:19 |
| jtholmes | in the future will do | 13:20 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, ow. Archive rebuilds in dak would be painful unless the Ubuntu dak had some features to help it | 13:20 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: infinity appears to cope fine *shrug* | 13:21 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: here's how it looks in Ubuntu: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/weak-password.png | 13:21 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: can you show me a screenshot? | 13:22 |
| jtholmes | your paste of ubuntu is what i see in kubuntu | 13:23 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I know on tradition dak, there was a hard assumption that there would ALWAYS be source; I'm not saying its impossible, but it doesn't sound like my idea of fun :-/ | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: I don't believe that - the frontend is completely different | 13:23 |
| jtholmes | but there isnt a question 'do you want to use weak password' | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | jtholmes: "Use weak password?" should be in the window title bar | 13:23 |
| jtholmes | it is | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | right then | 13:24 |
| jtholmes | Use weak password is in the title bar | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | anyway, the button text should be changed (again) | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | d-i handles this sort of thing a bit differently - what we render as the window title in ubiquity is actually placed at the end of the text in d-i, immediately before the buttons | 13:25 |
| jtholmes | it would seem to me the dialog text should say 'Do you want to choose a stronger password' instead of 'You should choosea a stronger password' | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | I'd prefer to change the button text | 13:26 |
| jtholmes | sure to what | 13:26 |
| cjwatson | human interface guidelines generally say that buttons should describe actions, rather than simply being "yes" and "no" | 13:26 |
| jtholmes | agreed | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | putting "yes" and "no" in here was just a stopgap measure since we're past string freeze, which means that translations are going to be difficult to manage | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | but if I'm going to get confused people turning up thinking the sense is wrong, I probably have little choice | 13:27 |
| jtholmes | yes i see the problem | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | "Continue" is probably fine in place of "Yes", and perhaps "Choose another password" in place of "No" | 13:28 |
| jtholmes | that looks good to me or "Continue with weak password' | 13:29 |
| jtholmes | whatever | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | I would prefer not that on two grounds | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | (1) the buttons would end up very wide and I think it would look odd | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | (2) it's one more thing that translators would have to do at short notice | 13:29 |
| jtholmes | good catch that is why you are in your current position | 13:30 |
| cjwatson | hmm, unfortunately "Continue" is translated as roughly "forward" in at least some languages | 13:30 |
| cjwatson | well, hmm, "Weiter" could be understood either way I guess | 13:30 |
| jtholmes | in any case i will try to test more alpha releases in the future to try and ferret out these things before string freeze | 13:31 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 13:31 |
| cjwatson | but please in future try to keep the questions to a single channel; it's very distracting to find that three windows have lit up regarding a single topic | 13:31 |
| jtholmes | will do i was not aware of #ubuntu-installer channel | 13:32 |
| cjwatson | and in general bug reports belong on LP | 13:32 |
| jtholmes | i did add to to 349173 but was afraid that the late state of the release it would possibly get overlooked | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | comments on already-fixed bugs are in general liable to be ignored | 13:34 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3157 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog partman/commit.d/01unmount_busy): | 13:34 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: Add a comment to partman/commit.d/01unmount_busy to explain why this | 13:34 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: script is still here despite similar code in partman-base. | 13:34 |
| cjwatson | it's better to file a new bug | 13:34 |
| jtholmes | ok i am still learning the ropes | 13:35 |
| jtholmes | thanks | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | I think you've been infected by the idea that the number of bugs must be kept to a minimum | 13:35 |
| jtholmes | yes i am | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | what we actually need is for each bug to describe a single, coherent, fixable issue | 13:35 |
| jtholmes | i will adhere to that in the future | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | it tends to impede development when a bug describes more than one problem | 13:36 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 13:36 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3158 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 13:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: Using "Yes" and "No" buttons for the weak-password question turns out to | 13:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: be more confusing than I'd hoped. Instead, use "Continue" and "Choose | 13:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: another password" (breaking the string freeze, but at least for only one | 13:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: string). | 13:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3159 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: i18n todo | 13:44 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: prog bar is much, much better on netboot :) | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | excellent | 15:14 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, is there an easy way to respin a bootable ISO with a custom d-i initrd + kernel? I'm testing the new kernel config for lpia with a USB stick, but I'd like to test it with an actual CD to see if it works ... | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | mkisofs -r -V 'Ubuntu 9.04 i386' -o jaunty-alternate-i386-hacked.iso -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table new-i386 | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: I have a file full of runes like that, which I copy and paste :) | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: (for i386, it prefer to run as root) | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | s | 15:30 |
| NCommander | I assume that will just work for lpia? | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | yep, should be the same | 15:30 |
| NCommander | Perfect | 15:30 |
| NCommander | I just want to make sure my new kernel and RAMdisk work sanely. | 15:30 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, wooo, success | 15:53 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, (and the new lpia kernel config works for the CD-ROM :-)) | 15:53 |
| persia | NCommander, Thanks for chasing the kernel bits to test that :) It's been annoying me for several months now. | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | oh good | 15:54 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, thats a great one liner, is it documented anywhere? | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | I think it's on help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization or some such | 15:55 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, once the kernel upload goes through, will d-i need a bump upload (there is no ABI bump, it will just be a normal revision) | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | yes | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | there's stuff in bzr to upload anyway | 15:58 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, ah, ok; I just wanted to make sure. | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | it's not a problem, we always make sure d-i is up to date for releases | 16:01 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I just find the logic to get stuff into installer-* is a bit of a blackbox | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | oh, that's easy, installer-* is only updated by way of debian-installer uploads | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | assuming you mean dists/jaunty/main/installer-* | 16:02 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, right, I meant the Soyuz logic behind it | 16:03 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I stopped trying to figure out how that worked in dak ages ago :-) | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | it's easy, it's well-encapsulated in both dak and soyuz | 16:04 |
| NCommander | Fair enough | 16:05 |
| * NCommander was referring to the actual code. | 16:06 | |
| cjwatson | so was I | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | it's scripts/debian/byhand-di in dak | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | and it's lib/canonical/archivepublisher/debian_installer.py in LP | 16:07 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, hrm, I always thought it was a dak function, I didn't realize it lived in a script. The only time I ever looked at BYHAND in dak was when investigating 3.0 source package support, and when I fixed the DM code | 16:09 |
| * NCommander didn't know cjwatson knew Soyuz's internals | 16:12 | |
| cjwatson | reasonably | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | it used to be in Python when we put that "auto-byhand" (an oxymoron) code for d-i into Ubuntu originally | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | when aj took it for dak upstream, he rewrote it in shell | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | I assume he had a reason | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | I wrote the guts of the code for both dak and Soyuz, way back when | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | I mean, the guts of the d-i handling stuff, not the whole thing :) | 16:15 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3160 ubiquity/.bzrignore: update ignores | 16:30 |
| ogra | HOORAY !!! | 16:33 |
| ogra | finally ubiquity isnt complaining anymore in apt-setup | 16:33 |
| NCommander | wooo, fully successful lpia installation from CD | 16:56 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, oh, I didn't see you in the authors file (sorry, stepped away) | 17:08 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I was working at removing some of the more braindead pieces of code (such as removing the hardcoded 'unstable'' lines) | 17:08 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3161 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/misc.py): Suppress unnecessary exception if find_in_os_prober fails. | 17:36 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, unfortunately still having troubles with grub2 and ubiquity 1.12.1. i'll try to get an apport bug submitted again | 17:40 |
| cjwatson | ok | 17:42 |
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| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3162 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): | 17:59 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: * GTK frontend: | 17:59 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: - Don't bother calling find_in_os_prober for partitions without real | 17:59 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: devices (e.g. free space). | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | argh, I made a change to ubiquity's advanced partitioning page, and now the entire page apart from the heading is blank for no readily explicable reason | 19:20 |
| cody-somerville | I hate when that happens | 19:21 |
| * cody-somerville isn't being facetious either. | 19:21 | |
| === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke | ||
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r3163 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py): Fix handling of "yes" response to partman/unmount_active. | 19:38 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: superm1 * r3164 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/mythbuntu_install.py): | 22:40 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: Make sure mythbuntu installs have users installed into the 'video' | 22:40 |
| CIA-28 | ubiquity: group. (LP: #351773) | 22:40 |
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