sotec_prod | Has anyone successfully installed ubuntu mobile on a WinMo device with an OMP processor? (samsung blackjack 2) | 00:19 |
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davmor2 | Guys is xournal a touch screen app? | 09:29 |
davmor2 | ogra: hello | 09:46 |
davmor2 | Is it too late to get an app removed from UNR? | 09:48 |
ogra | what would you want to remove ? | 09:53 |
davmor2 | ogra: xournal it's a good app if you have a touch screen but most netbooks don't | 09:57 |
ogra | true | 09:58 |
ogra | no idea why its included in UNR | 09:58 |
davmor2 | ogra: It's 2 or 3 across from gedit. At first I thought it was a dupe in apps but if you try and us it with out a touch screen it's like playing mission control | 09:59 |
davmor2 | it just fires line to where the cursor is :) | 10:00 |
ogra | heh ... i'd file a bug | 10:00 |
davmor2 | have done | 10:00 |
ogra | either for the removal or for a fix | 10:00 |
davmor2 | Bug 352961 | 10:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 352961 in mobile-meta "Jaunty: Netbook Remix has xournal which doesn't seem to function correctly on netbooks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352961 | 10:00 |
davmor2 | ogra: I also added maybe having the inclusion of a UNR-Touch meta-package to include common touch apps and settings for if the touch screen become common place :) | 10:02 |
ogra | good idea, we should make a spec out of that | 10:06 |
davmor2 | ogra: knock yourself out you know more about what half decent apps and settings are out there :) | 10:08 |
ogra | not true foir jaunty UNR ... i'm mainly doing ARM enablement this cycle, StevenK is the guy caring for UNR in januty | 10:09 |
StevenK | xournal has been killed from the meta package | 10:12 |
ogra | StevenK, oh, you are here | 10:13 |
ogra | StevenK, did you see the notify-osd discussion with sabdfl and davidbarth above ? | 10:13 |
StevenK | I thought lool did that upload? | 10:14 |
* ogra didnt see any uploads yet | 10:14 | |
ogra | as i understand there is a "fix" in n-osd bzr thats not been uploaded yet, which adds support for an env var that enforces non-composite mode | 10:15 |
StevenK | I thought u-n-r-d-s 0.5.0 was uploaded? | 10:16 |
ogra | if thats uploaded we need to set that var somewhere and replace notification-daemon with n-osd | 10:16 |
ogra | u-n-r-d-s 0.5.0 doesnt change anything wrt notifications | 10:17 |
ogra | sabdfl wants the new notification system in UNR | 10:18 |
StevenK | Yeah, I see that. | 10:18 |
davmor2 | StevenK: Cool :) | 10:24 |
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atari | i have the problem that my system seems to hang for 1-2s if i open a new page in firefox (as example). is it a known problem? | 10:27 |
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StevenK | ogra: I have the changes locally, I don't see the notify-osd changes in LP yet | 10:41 |
ogra | StevenK, <davidbarth> ogra, lool: i've just pushed a fix for the env. var workaround we just discussed | 10:42 |
ogra | thats been 20:33 UTC yesterday | 10:43 |
StevenK | Where LP == the archive | 10:43 |
ogra | yeah, i think nobody uploaded it yet | 10:47 |
ogra | i dont even know the var name, else you could add something already | 10:47 |
ogra | i would propose (even though its very ugly) to add an Xsession.d script to the launcher that exports it | 10:48 |
ogra | i.e. /etc/X11/Xsession.d/85no-composite-for-osd with: | 10:48 |
ogra | #!/bin/sh | 10:48 |
ogra | NOTIFY_OSD_MUST_NOT_USE_COMPOSITING=True | 10:48 |
ogra | export NOTIFY_OSD_MUST_NOT_USE_COMPOSITING | 10:48 |
ogra | thats what we discussed yesterday (or hack up the launcher itself to export it from C ) | 10:49 |
ogra | (the latter might produce races though if n-osd starts before the launcher) | 10:50 |
playya | ogra, maybe you should look into the XDG dokumentation if there's a flag for composite | 12:08 |
playya | or HAL | 12:09 |
playya | ehh some dbus method of your choice :) | 12:09 |
ogra | playya, well, not my business actually, i think the dx team has already implementd something in notify-osd | 12:11 |
playya | ok | 12:11 |
ogra | beyond that composite is there and will be detected ... which is the exact problem | 12:11 |
playya | because of notify-osd i won't upgrad to jaunty | 12:12 |
ogra | really ? | 12:12 |
* ogra likes notify-osd | 12:12 | |
ogra | i dont like the stuff that has changed around the notification stuff | 12:12 |
ogra | buut the notification system itself is pretty cool | 12:12 |
playya | i use E really often ( if its not crashing) and it doesn't support n-osd | 12:13 |
playya | only libnotify | 12:13 |
ogra | well, you can remove n-osd and use libnotify | 12:15 |
playya | but all programs use n-osd | 12:16 |
ogra | that doesnt mean they are not able to use notification-daemon anymore | 12:16 |
playya | i thought nosd replaces libn completely | 12:17 |
ogra | if its installed, yes | 12:17 |
playya | ot: can i set blink for the normal backgroundcolor in grub? | 12:19 |
playya | brb. testing | 12:21 |
playya | ok. doesn't work | 12:27 |
ogra | file a bug :) | 12:28 |
ogra | UNR still uses notification-daemon all over the place ... nobody complained during the beta testing | 12:29 |
playya | nobody uses enlightenment ;) | 12:30 |
ogra | well, does that matter ? | 12:31 |
ogra | notification-daemon should simply work, else its an E bug | 12:31 |
playya | i don't have a jaunty install because of missind disk space and my second hdd has zfs as a first partition -> jaunty can't create a partition | 12:31 |
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lool | davidm: mdz@canonical-cloaked-58A6C14A.range86-143.btcentralplus.com (canonical) | 18:00 |
lool | Ups | 18:00 |
lool | davidm, StevenK: 353263 | 18:00 |
lool | I think it wont make it | 18:00 |
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lool | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/intel-hands-over-the-keys-to-its-linux-operating-system/ | 21:02 |
ian_brasil | if i were to advice someone just starting out with development of ubuntu mobile i would advise them to download the latest image and to run it in QEMU or KVM | 21:15 |
ian_brasil | is there some preferred graphical way..like using Virtual Box or Virtual Machine Manager? | 21:17 |
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lool | ian_brasil: I think virtualbox is a bit harder to convert the image, but then you can easily boot either disk | 21:34 |
lool | ian_brasil: With kvm or qemu it's hard to switch boot disk, so hard to install from that .img; but we have a trick for that as well. | 21:35 |
* lool bed & | 21:35 | |
ian_brasil | lool: that which you posted to the mailing list a while back right | 21:35 |
methods | the arm-ubuntu notebooks should be coming out now that it's april right ? | 22:00 |
methods | how do i get mid ? | 22:33 |
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