[00:19] Has anyone successfully installed ubuntu mobile on a WinMo device with an OMP processor? (samsung blackjack 2) === wasabi` is now known as wasabi [09:29] Guys is xournal a touch screen app? [09:46] ogra: hello [09:48] Is it too late to get an app removed from UNR? [09:53] what would you want to remove ? [09:57] ogra: xournal it's a good app if you have a touch screen but most netbooks don't [09:58] true [09:58] no idea why its included in UNR [09:59] ogra: It's 2 or 3 across from gedit. At first I thought it was a dupe in apps but if you try and us it with out a touch screen it's like playing mission control [10:00] it just fires line to where the cursor is :) [10:00] heh ... i'd file a bug [10:00] have done [10:00] either for the removal or for a fix [10:00] Bug 352961 [10:00] Launchpad bug 352961 in mobile-meta "Jaunty: Netbook Remix has xournal which doesn't seem to function correctly on netbooks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352961 [10:02] ogra: I also added maybe having the inclusion of a UNR-Touch meta-package to include common touch apps and settings for if the touch screen become common place :) [10:06] good idea, we should make a spec out of that [10:08] ogra: knock yourself out you know more about what half decent apps and settings are out there :) [10:09] not true foir jaunty UNR ... i'm mainly doing ARM enablement this cycle, StevenK is the guy caring for UNR in januty [10:12] xournal has been killed from the meta package [10:13] StevenK, oh, you are here [10:13] StevenK, did you see the notify-osd discussion with sabdfl and davidbarth above ? [10:14] I thought lool did that upload? [10:14] * ogra didnt see any uploads yet [10:15] as i understand there is a "fix" in n-osd bzr thats not been uploaded yet, which adds support for an env var that enforces non-composite mode [10:16] I thought u-n-r-d-s 0.5.0 was uploaded? [10:16] if thats uploaded we need to set that var somewhere and replace notification-daemon with n-osd [10:17] u-n-r-d-s 0.5.0 doesnt change anything wrt notifications [10:18] sabdfl wants the new notification system in UNR [10:18] Yeah, I see that. [10:24] StevenK: Cool :) === atari_ is now known as atari [10:27] i have the problem that my system seems to hang for 1-2s if i open a new page in firefox (as example). is it a known problem? === asac_ is now known as asac [10:41] ogra: I have the changes locally, I don't see the notify-osd changes in LP yet [10:42] StevenK, ogra, lool: i've just pushed a fix for the env. var workaround we just discussed [10:43] thats been 20:33 UTC yesterday [10:43] Where LP == the archive [10:47] yeah, i think nobody uploaded it yet [10:47] i dont even know the var name, else you could add something already [10:48] i would propose (even though its very ugly) to add an Xsession.d script to the launcher that exports it [10:48] i.e. /etc/X11/Xsession.d/85no-composite-for-osd with: [10:48] #!/bin/sh [10:48] NOTIFY_OSD_MUST_NOT_USE_COMPOSITING=True [10:48] export NOTIFY_OSD_MUST_NOT_USE_COMPOSITING [10:49] thats what we discussed yesterday (or hack up the launcher itself to export it from C ) [10:50] (the latter might produce races though if n-osd starts before the launcher) [12:08] ogra, maybe you should look into the XDG dokumentation if there's a flag for composite [12:09] or HAL [12:09] ehh some dbus method of your choice :) [12:11] playya, well, not my business actually, i think the dx team has already implementd something in notify-osd [12:11] ok [12:11] beyond that composite is there and will be detected ... which is the exact problem [12:12] because of notify-osd i won't upgrad to jaunty [12:12] really ? [12:12] * ogra likes notify-osd [12:12] i dont like the stuff that has changed around the notification stuff [12:12] buut the notification system itself is pretty cool [12:13] i use E really often ( if its not crashing) and it doesn't support n-osd [12:13] only libnotify [12:15] well, you can remove n-osd and use libnotify [12:16] but all programs use n-osd [12:16] that doesnt mean they are not able to use notification-daemon anymore [12:17] i thought nosd replaces libn completely [12:17] if its installed, yes [12:19] ot: can i set blink for the normal backgroundcolor in grub? [12:21] brb. testing [12:27] ok. doesn't work [12:28] file a bug :) [12:29] UNR still uses notification-daemon all over the place ... nobody complained during the beta testing [12:30] nobody uses enlightenment ;) [12:31] well, does that matter ? [12:31] notification-daemon should simply work, else its an E bug [12:31] i don't have a jaunty install because of missind disk space and my second hdd has zfs as a first partition -> jaunty can't create a partition === ssweeny_ is now known as ssweeny [18:00] davidm: mdz@canonical-cloaked-58A6C14A.range86-143.btcentralplus.com (canonical) [18:00] Ups [18:00] davidm, StevenK: 353263 [18:00] I think it wont make it === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke [21:02] http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/intel-hands-over-the-keys-to-its-linux-operating-system/ [21:15] if i were to advice someone just starting out with development of ubuntu mobile i would advise them to download the latest image and to run it in QEMU or KVM [21:17] is there some preferred graphical way..like using Virtual Box or Virtual Machine Manager? === matt_c_ is now known as matt_c [21:34] ian_brasil: I think virtualbox is a bit harder to convert the image, but then you can easily boot either disk [21:35] ian_brasil: With kvm or qemu it's hard to switch boot disk, so hard to install from that .img; but we have a trick for that as well. [21:35] * lool bed & [21:35] lool: that which you posted to the mailing list a while back right [22:00] the arm-ubuntu notebooks should be coming out now that it's april right ? [22:33] how do i get mid ?