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aramorning!07:06
davmor2Morning All08:22
aramorning davmor208:24
davmor2ara: how did it go Monday in the end.  We were on holiday and the sites wifi was down so I couldn't join in :(08:47
aradavmor2: you don't test on your holidays!!09:11
davmor2ara: Not without wifi I don't no :(  I was however using my netbook which has UNR Jaunty on it found a couple of issue that I'm going to write up now I have wifi :)09:23
* ara reboots09:32
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* ara -> lunch12:36
jtholmeshino ping12:43
davmor2jtholmes: who hino12:43
davmor2jtholmes: if your after heno he doesn't seem to be on irc and therefore wont see your ping anyway :)12:44
jtholmessorry mistype heno is who i wanted thanks12:46
jtholmesdavmor2, who is in charge of testing when heno is away12:46
davmor2jtholmes: just ask12:47
jtholmeswho is in charge of testing in heno's absence12:47
davmor2jtholmes: sorry I meant ask what you were going to ask heno someone should be able to point you in the right direction12:48
jtholmesok12:50
jtholmesThe Use weak password dialog in the installer has the sense reversed, cjwatson made a text change last night but the sense of the choice is wrong and there really isn't a quesiton associated with the dialog12:52
jtholmesreversed=reversed12:52
jtholmeswatson did not change the sense only the button text12:52
davmor2jtholmes: the yes no on use weak password12:53
jtholmescorrect the yes no12:53
davmor2it is a question.  It asks if you want to use the weak password and then tells you what length the strong password should be.12:54
jtholmesno leaves you in the dialog to change your password  yes takes you to Ready to install12:54
davmor2that's correct12:54
davmor2jtholmes: the question if you look at it asks "use weak password?" so yes will continue the install and no will take you back to the password section so you can change the password.  I don't see anything wrong with that behaviour12:56
davmor2cjwatson: ^12:56
jtholmeswell then the last part of the user information should say 'Do you want to choose a stronger password?' Not ' You should choose a stronger password'12:58
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jtholmesit really dosen't ask 'use weak password'13:00
jtholmesit makes a statement 'You should choose a stronger password'13:00
davmor2jtholmes: you might want to take it up with the installer team13:02
jtholmeswho would that be please13:02
davmor2#ubuntu-installer13:03
jtholmesdavmor2, ok thanks13:03
cjwatsonjtholmes: don't call me "Watson", by the way, it's rude to just use a surname13:13
davmor2schwuk: ping14:26
davmor2schwuk: on system testing is there a way to return focus to the 'type text' window and away from the running test window.  Currently if you type text nothing happen until you put focus back on the type text window.14:31
davmor2cr3: Morning14:58
davmor2cgregan: Morning14:58
cgregandavmor2: Morning14:59
cr3davmor2: ahoy, matey!14:59
davmor2cr3: I asked schwuk this but I'll ask you too on system testing is there a way to return focus to the 'type text' window and away from the running test window.  Currently if you type text nothing happen until you put focus back on the type text window.14:59
davmor2cr3: Is it talk like a pirate day again already :)15:00
cr3davmor2: I like that kind of concern, might you know off hand how to do that in gtk?15:00
cr3davmor2: I wish every day was talk like a pirate day :)15:00
davmor2cr3: I have no idea what-so-ever I don't know if it's possible that's why I was asking here first before posting a bug :)15:02
davmor2cr3: could you not make the type text window open after the test running window?15:04
schwukdavmor2: could be interesting to address...15:31
davmor2schwuk: or just change the title to "click and type text" :)15:33
cr3davmor2: but that would be testing both the mouse and the keyboard :)15:34
schwukdavmor2: bug? :)15:34
davmor2schwuk: I was finding out if it was possible to do before writing one.  Not being a programer :)15:35
schwukdavmor2: of course filing a bug doesn't infer that we'll fix it...15:36
davmor2:D15:36
schwukdavmor2: in theory it's possible, so if you can file a bug, I'll try and address it15:37
davmor2writting as soon as the page comes up :)15:38
davmor2schwuk: bug 35319015:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 353190 in checkbox "Jaunty: in checkbox-gtk on keyboard text simply typing displays nothing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35319015:49
davmor2Hello heno16:41
henohey davmor216:41
davmor2alternate has gained a new progress meter which is nice.  The bar still sticks at 6% but you see the text read accessing 1 of 191 etc yay :)16:43
* ara takes a break before the meetings16:46
jtholmesheno is the qa meeting on "#ubuntu-meetings" in about 10 mins?16:48
henojtholmes: It's 17 00 UTC, which is in 70 minutes16:49
davmor2jtholmes: that be about an hour an 10 minutes16:49
jtholmesok wasnt sure of the time diff thanks16:49
henonp16:49
jtholmesdavmor2, thanks didnt see your msg16:57
jtholmesafk16:57
davmor2bdmurray: congrats17:43
bdmurraydavmor2: thanks!17:43
jtholmesdavmor2 is the #ubuntu-meetings on freenode or elsewhere17:58
davmor2#ubuntu-meeting17:58
araUbuntu QA Meeting in ~1 minute at #ubuntu-meeting18:00
jtholmesdavmor2, thanks had s on meeting18:01
jtholmesdavmor2 what does UDS stand for Ubuntu ??19:01
arajtholmes: ubuntu developer summit19:02
jtholmesthanks19:03
henoeeejay: will you join the dt call?19:32
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eeejayheno, yup19:33
henoeeejay: (we are dialed in)19:35
arahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation/Desktop/Coverage19:37
eeejayhttp://package-import.ubuntu.com19:43
eeejayara: maybe we could somehow grab all the test XML files, append them to a giant file, and do some xslt magic that will give a current picture of coverage?19:48
eeejaymaybe i am complicating stuff19:48
araeeejay: :D19:50
jcolladoeeejay: Plase take a look at the parse_suite.py located in the scripts subdirectory in the urn branch. I parses a module file and generates the XML file based on the information in the XML file.19:58
jcolladoeeejay: I added also an option to generate wiki output with the same information19:58
eeejayjcollado: cool!19:59
jcolladoeeejay: I believe it could be extended to get something similar to XSLT19:59
eeejayjcollado: i am thinking, it could be in the main executable with a "--coverage" flag.20:00
jcolladoeeejay: I meant "based on the information in the python module"20:00
eeejayjcollado: that way it could grab all the suites20:00
jcolladoeeejay: Yes, that could be done also20:00
eeejayjcollado: my thought was to parst the suite XML file, where all the human readable name/descriptions reside20:03
eeejayjcollado: docstrings won't be good for that purpose because one method could be used for many test cases, same with class20:04
jcolladoeeejay: You're right. What I thought that could be done in such a case20:04
jcolladoeeejay: is just create a helper method in call it twice from different testing methods20:05
eeejayjcollado: hah20:05
jcolladoeeejay: being a testing method one that matched the testing method pattern (i.e. r'^test' regexp)20:05
eeejayjcollado: that is originally how i was designing it too20:06
jcolladoeeejay: I feel is nice to write the information only in one place instead of splitting it in different files. Don't you think so?20:06
eeejayjcollado: yeah, that is why we are not using the docstrings :)20:07
eeejayjcollado: the XML file is "canonical"20:07
jcolladoeeejay: He, he.  It's a matter of taste. I don't like much XML files. I prefer everything in the code to keep the documentation and other information in sync with the code.20:09
eeejayjcollado: i generally agree with you20:10
mvosbeattie: I commited a fix for update-manager-text crash, please let me know if it reappears (but it should be fixed)20:18
sbeattiemvo: cool, thanks! BTW, I'm not sure how it easy it to steer newt from  python, but it might be nice to have it size things sensibly depending on the terminal settings.20:20
mvosbeattie: good point20:21
mvosbeattie: probably not jaunty though :/20:21
sbeattieyeah, not surprised. but wishlist it for me, okay? :-)20:23
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mvosbeattie: promised :)20:45
mvosbeattie: poke me on UDS if nothing is done until then20:45
sbeattieheh, sure thing; I'm likely to keep using it.20:46
mvonice20:47
* mvo waves good night20:47
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