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sebsebsebdisregardthat: ok good luck!00:00
disregardthatthx ;)00:01
sebsebsebdisregardthat: np00:02
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pronubhow i shot ubuntu00:06
akraftI have a brand-new install, and I don't seem to be getting usb support. Is this a common problem, and how can I fix it?00:06
pronubakraft: im not sure, im pretty new myself00:06
pronubhave you checked the man pageS?00:06
pronubalso, i was gonna instal ubuntu to protect myself from the conficker worm, is this a good idea?00:07
icerootakraft: usb enabled in bios? onboard usb?00:07
Ropechoborra!usb | akraft00:07
ubottuakraft: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent00:07
icerootpronub: its always a good idea to install linux00:07
RopechoborraUhmm i guess that was not what you wanted :$ Sorry00:07
icerootpronub: there are no viruses for linux00:07
amgarchIn9pronub: too late it alreadyy first of april00:07
akrafticeroot, it's onboard, I guess it could be disabled in bios somehow00:07
icerootakraft: then look there00:07
Flannelakraft: What do you mean by USB support?00:08
bruce89sebsebseb: WORKSFORME00:08
pronubamgarchIn9: not in my country brother00:08
akraftflannel: I mean usb devices don't work, and lsusb doesn't give me any output00:08
PC16-Sala3-381hola00:08
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pronubso if i download linux i can watch all the free porn i want00:08
Ropechoborra!es PC16-Sala3-38100:08
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:08
akraftthat's the extent of my knowledge to diagnose the problem00:08
pronuband no viruses rite00:08
Flannelpronub: Is there a support question we can help you with today?00:09
pronubFlannel: tryin to figure out if linux is the rite choice for me00:09
zhuraipronub: there are viruses, just not many, as most people are on windows, so that's what is mostly hit with virii00:09
pronubyea im glad i dont have windows00:09
pronubi am pretty good with the BSD environment, although i do run mac00:09
zhuraiespecially there is an April 1st virus going around I hear00:10
pronubweird00:10
disregardthatOooh!00:10
disregardthatThanks for reminding me.00:10
zhurai?00:10
pronubanyways, i am getting pretty darn good at modding my os x00:10
disregardthatI want to watch the Windows users suffer.00:10
Flannelpronub: Please stay on topic.  This channel is for Ubuntu support.00:10
disregardthat:P00:10
pronubFlannel: i am being on topic00:10
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* otm is burning BT3 to get revenge on #remote-exploit00:10
disregardthatRight, Ubuntu support.00:10
zhuraidisregardthat: LOL, true00:10
disregardthatHald isn't recognizing my mouse or keyboard.00:11
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pronubso back to it00:11
pronubhow 'mod-able' is ubuntu00:11
Chousukepronub: Linux distros are not immune to malware, but getting hit by one is much less likely than on Windows.00:11
Chousukepronub: very. :)00:11
pronubmore so than debian?00:11
punteri bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in linux00:11
akraftwell, I'm going to doublecheck to see if my onboard USB is disabled in bios. I might be back. Thanks.00:11
zhuraidisregardthat: hopefully if it pwns more computers in windows, people'll move to linux >_>;?00:11
pronubi have run debian and gentoo00:11
disregardthatzhurai: Not a chance.00:11
pronubtryin to find somethign easy for kids you know00:11
zhurai<pronub> more so than debian? <-- ....ubuntu is based on debian00:11
punteri bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work00:11
pronubohhhhhhhhhhhhh00:12
zhuraidisregardthat: :(00:12
Flannelpronub: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  Thanks.00:12
pronubFlannel: can you chill out sir00:12
pronubits the internet00:12
pronubthe bandwith from my enter stroeks surely does not effect you00:12
pronubaffect*00:12
zhurai0.2s lag o:00:12
Rabbitbunnypronub: We're serious about providing the best support possible. You don't have to be here.00:12
Joe_Shmoe|Have any of you heard about this Conficker virus?00:12
FlannelJoe_Shmoe|: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't the place.00:13
pronubRabbitbunny: thank you for the warm welcome.00:13
Joe_Shmoe|oh, I see.00:13
disregardthatjoetheodd: It's why Im looking forward to tomorrow.00:13
disregardthatWhoops, wrong joe.00:13
pronubim just trying to ask questions of people that are 'at the source' who know the OS inside and out00:13
zhurai>.>00:13
pronubif this isnt the place then ill try to go elseware00:13
punteri bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work00:13
mrsteveman1anyone know what updates the /vmlinuz and /initrd.img symlinks when a kernel is upgraded? is it the package post-install scripts, or is it another script?00:13
disregardthatSo, any advice about my mouse and keyboard?00:14
disregardthatI kind of need those...00:14
pronubuse the power of the force my friend :D00:14
disregardthatWell... Okay!00:14
* disregardthat forces Hald to see the mouse00:14
zhuraiwhat problem?00:14
disregardthatAww, it doesn't like the Force.00:15
disregardthatzhurai: Same as usual.00:15
Ropechoborradisregardthat, What is the problem with the mouse and keyboard?00:15
disregardthatMy X doesn't recognize the mouse or keyboard.00:15
pronubahhhhhhhhh my computer is changing colors now00:15
The-Mentorare they usb?00:15
disregardthatIt's probably Hald instead, given Intrepid.00:15
pronubhow do i fix this00:15
disregardthatNo, integrated, I'm on an E1505.00:15
space_cadetmy mouse is usb and ubuntu sees it fine.00:15
pronubwtf is this conficker virus00:16
disregardthatpronYou'll see tomorrow.00:16
space_cadetPronub something windows specific00:16
disregardthatProNoob:  You'll see tomorrow.00:16
akraftso guess how dumb I am00:16
Rabbitbunnypronub: Stay on topic.00:16
pronubwho is on my computer00:16
punteri bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work00:16
pronubTHIS IS ON TOPIC SOMEONE HACKED MY UBUNTU00:16
RabbitbunnyFlannel: Thank You.00:16
space_cadetpronub, it's actually over emphasized, most systems are patched00:16
disregardthatA bit harsh, don't you think?00:17
ProNoobLoL00:17
disregardthatAnyways...00:17
disregardthatThe keyboard and mouse.00:17
ProNoobhow did his ubuntu get haxxed ?00:17
ProNoobthere be any vulns ?00:17
disregardthatNo idea what they keys are, but the mouse is a SynPS2.00:17
RabbitbunnyFlannel: Ban Evasion, see ProNoob.00:18
FlannelRabbitbunny: Not quite.00:18
hotte-huhu guys ;) what is the standard filepath for java?00:18
akraftSo the usb support was totally disabled in bios because I am developmentally challenged.00:18
ProNoobRabbitbunny, check my history of idling...00:18
ProNoobRabbitbunny, won't match with that dudes00:18
hotte-i dont know where i have to install the .bin file00:18
RopechoborraAren't generic? Then try compiling drivers00:18
akraftit is now fixxored, thanks guys00:18
* otm still doesn't know how to do red text and is nearly tearful00:18
FlannelProNoob, Rabbitbunny: it's perfectly fine to just drop it.00:18
Rabbitbunnypunter: There's a guide on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6782167 for most of the operation.00:18
RabbitbunnyProNoob: Ah, A hearty apology my fine resident.00:19
* Rabbitbunny bows before ProNoob 00:19
WinterWeaverhow can I do "chmod a-x -R *"    .... BUT excluding the -x on directories?00:19
FlannelWinterWeaver: You might be looking for X instead of x.  Depending on what you've already done, etc.00:19
disregardthatWinterWeaver: Read the man pages?00:20
WinterWeaverok, will do... I thought it would be more complicated than that. thx00:20
The-Mentorakraft: your cracking me man00:21
bluenzohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpunRcR3_Sk sexy ;x00:21
bluenzowhy cant subaru donate a car to me :(00:21
disregardthatCan anyone help me with my mouse/key problems?00:21
bluenzoOOH DARNIT wrong chan sorry00:21
disregardthatblue__: Fail.00:21
disregardthatSpeaking of which...00:21
punterrabbitbunny:that tutorial is for tablet pcs mine is regular pc00:22
space_cadetGuys, could you check this over and tell me how it looks?   http://pastebin.com/m6bded8bd00:22
disregardthatbluenzo: Fail.00:22
disregardthatCan anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?00:23
disregardthatAnyone?00:24
space_cadetwow everyone suddenly watch the video?00:24
space_cadetlol00:24
akrafthas anyone here any experience getting printers to work?00:25
disregardthatCan anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?00:26
seb-how turn off "Do you really mean that?" popups when you kill xterms?00:26
amgarchIn9space_cadet: did you try ath5k?00:26
RichW!ask | disregardthat00:26
ubottudisregardthat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:26
seb-akraft, disregardthat: you won't get any help if you don't ask a freaking question00:26
mint3Please help00:26
akraftseb: sorry, sorry.00:26
disregardthatRichW, seb-: k00:27
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays.00:27
amgarchIn9space_cadet: ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70), runs ok00:27
akraftI have an epson stylus cx8400 and gutenprint recognizes it and thinks everything's fine, but when I try to print, it just spits out blank paper till it runs out. Any help?00:28
NithrinHow do I stealth my ports?00:28
_Brun0_what's a good value for upload_tmp_dir on ubuntu?00:28
space_cadetamgarchIn9, yes we did try the ath5k, didn't work00:29
space_cadetan HP machine00:29
kavityAnyone know how I can approach this error while trying to compile uvcvideo driver: File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4.00:29
mshanksHey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?00:29
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?00:29
RichWdisregardthat, You should be specific about hardware, ps2? usb?00:29
kavityI get a similar error with gspca too.00:29
disregardthatI think its PS2.00:29
disregardthat*it's00:29
mshanksI've had this problem before with this desktop - there was a way round it by changing some parameters on command line when installing, and in grub for when booting. but i can't remember what they are :/00:30
RichWdisregardthat, you can check with lsusb00:30
andre_planyone know if an ffmpeg .deb from 9.04 will install and work on 8.04?00:30
disregardthatWhat should I grep for?00:30
ZINGany ideas on why kompozer keeps quiting on me as soon as it opens??00:31
space_cadetamgarchIn9, other than that, does the sh look okay??00:31
ZINGi need a good wysiwyg editor00:31
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space_cadet!away > album|awy00:32
ubottualbum|awy, please see my private message00:32
ZINGthe is URGENT00:32
vigoZING: Bluefish. there are a few, but that one is ok00:32
andre_plZING: if its URGENT just edit the raw html. :P00:32
space_cadetrofl00:32
ubuntux782EXCUSE ME  CAN ANYBODY SAY ME HOW CONFIGURE THE PROXY IN UBUNTU SERVER 8.10 ?00:32
space_cadet!caps00:32
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.00:32
Mean_Adminwow with the scremaing00:32
disregardthat!caps00:32
The-MentorZING: bluefish is great00:33
space_cadetrofl @ Mean_Admin 's nick00:33
disregardthatRichW: I can't pastebin the result, my laptop's netless.00:33
vigoZing: Yes, I use Bluefish and another one, but Bluefish is the fall back00:33
ubuntux782HI00:33
ubuntux782PLEASE00:33
andre_plThe-Mentor: 'great' is a subjective term, i would say theres no such thing as a 'great' wysiwyg for html. they're all inferior to hand coding00:33
ZINGis bluefish wysiwyg?00:33
amgarchIn9space_cadet: why do you escape \# ? I gues that is not necessary inside '\#'00:33
disregardthat!caps | ubuntux78200:33
ubottuubuntux782: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.00:33
ubuntux782ANYBODY HELP ME00:33
ZINGi need toi be able to see as i type in the code00:33
space_cadethmm..00:33
Mean_Adminso here I am: I've a script that establishes an ssh tunnel-forwarding and then the script mounts smb00:33
vigo!proxy00:33
ubottuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks. If you're using mibbit, please try joining #ubuntu again. Mibbit takes a long time to connect, so you may have missed a message to do this.00:33
The-Mentorandre_pl: I agree00:34
mrwesvigo, do you like Bluefish?00:34
space_cadetkuul00:34
Mean_Adminexcept that forwarding privilged ports requires sudo... how can I make my script executable by all (it's already 777, it needs to be executed by root or sudoed)00:34
vigoarwes: sorta, not really, but sorta00:34
mrwesvigo, perfectly clear :)00:34
ubuntux782OK00:35
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?00:35
Mean_Adminso my question is: what can I do to allow any user to execute a script which contains a command that needs to be issued by root or with sudo ?00:35
Mean_Adminactually, not even any user, I wouldn't mind if the script had a box pop-up asking for the sudo password00:36
vigoarwes: I honestly prefer Arachnophelia, there is a another wysiwyg editor that is like that, pure java, almost, is nice00:36
mrwesvigo, is that in the repos?00:36
Flannelubuntux782: We can hear you.  You don't need to use all caps, nor do you need to say something every minute.  Also, please be more specific.  What sort of proxy (what are you trying to accomplish)? What have you tried? What are you stuck on?00:36
mrwesor a .deb file for it?00:36
HfuyIs there somewhere I can look to see if ubuntu will run all the hardware on my laptop?00:37
mrwesHfuy, download the Live CD and try it00:37
* Hfuy winces00:38
HfuyReally?00:38
webpigeon_laptopHfuy, lshw00:38
vigoarwes: No it is not, I did a wget , but I see no reason why it is NOT included, it is pure java and the source is pretty dang open.00:38
Hfuylshwhat?00:38
mshanksHey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?00:38
Flannel!hardware | Hfuy00:38
ubottuHfuy: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection00:38
FlannelHfuy: just bear in mind that's not exhaustive nor authoritative.00:38
ubuntux782IḾ NEW IN LINUX00:38
webpigeon_laptopHfuy, sorry mis-read what you wanted00:38
dyekOn Fedora, in this file, /etc/alsa/alsa.conf, there is a pulse-default.conf hook, such that PulseAudio hooks into the alsa "default" pcm device. With this, anything played through the Alsa "default" pcm device will go to PulseAudio sound server. What is equivalent to pulse-default.conf on Ubuntu?00:39
webpigeon_laptopubuntux782, WE NOTICED00:39
Irreducibilis!caps00:39
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.00:39
Flannelwebpigeon_laptop: That's not necessary at all.00:39
webpigeon_laptopFlannel, sorry :(00:39
Poscaeniumlol00:39
amgarchIn9ubuntux782: enjoying fools day?00:39
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?00:40
vigoubuntux782: then you are going to see alot of RTFM and such, but welcome to the freedom and the learning again.00:40
sebsebsebamgarchIn9: not for USA yet, and  April fools day is kind of off topic here00:40
NithrinHow do I stealth my ports in Ubuntu?00:40
ubuntux782OK00:41
ubuntux782I'M SORRY00:41
Shadow_Xwhat blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?00:41
vigoNithrin: TOR, Squid, unplug it or whatever00:41
HfuyHm. No mention of a Toshiba DV1108 under Ubuntu, so I shan't bother.00:41
HfuyThanks anyway.00:41
Raylzhow can i connect to a unprotected wireless network called tunet with my terminal?00:41
Raylziwconfig tunet?00:41
RopechoborraRaylz, unprotect how?00:42
RaylzRopechoborra: no password, no wep00:42
yggdrasilhello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?00:42
Raylzno wpa00:42
webpigeon_laptopFlannel, ah, sorry, i thought this was ##club-ubuntu :(00:43
RopechoborraRaylz, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "tunet"   (if wlan0 is your wireless interface)00:43
Raylzyour guessing right :)00:43
RaylzRopechoborra: is there some cmd for listing available networks too?00:43
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?00:43
RopechoborraRaylz, and then, if it is necessary tipe ' sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off '00:43
RopechoborraRaylz, iwlist wlan0 scan00:43
RaylzRopechoborra: ty so much :)00:43
disregardthatAlso, pastebin won't work on that computer.00:44
ubuntux782I DON'T CAN CONFIGURE MY DRIVER FOR MY NVIDIA FOR LINUX00:44
RopechoborraYou're welcome :)00:44
disregardthat!caps | ubuntux78200:44
ubottuubuntux782: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.00:44
space_cadet!caps | ubuntux78200:44
RaylzRopechoborra: in arch theres no networkmanager plasmoid yet :)00:44
savidOn ubuntu server, how do I ensure that a service will start in the default runlevel?00:44
space_cadet!nvidia00:44
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:44
RopechoborraRaylz, dont know the meaning of plasmoid :( (sorry for my bad english)00:44
vigoubuntux782: Did you look at the forums?00:45
disregardthat!hal00:45
ubottuFor an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer00:45
yggdrasilhello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?00:45
disregardthat!hald00:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hald00:45
ubuntux782yes i do, but they're not specific00:45
RaylzRopechoborra: plasma is the new desktop shell of kde, plasmoid is a widget00:45
Blizzerand!welcome00:45
ubottuWelcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.00:45
RaylzRopechoborra: in gnome it would be the nm-applet00:45
glitchdcan anyone help me make my 42 inch lcd tv act as my monitor?00:45
devnneed help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen00:45
RopechoborraRaylz,  Ohh ! now i get it :)00:45
Raylz!hal00:45
ubottuFor an informative description of the Hardware Abstraction Layer , go to this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer00:45
space_cadet!askthebot00:45
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".00:45
marek__hi is there any CLI editor with find & replace function?00:46
macd_marek__, nano, pico, vi...00:46
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?00:46
vigoubuntux782: you can look in the Synaptic Package Manager and find the driver for your card, or use a fglrx.00:46
marek__nano has onyl search? macd_ ?00:46
durtmarek__, almost all of them, emacs, vim etc.00:46
glitchddoes anyone use arch?00:46
Hobzcat | grep | awk00:46
Shadow_Xwhat blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?00:46
Ropechoborramarek__, almost everyone have them i think00:46
Raylzglitchd: aye00:46
devnneed help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen00:46
ubuntux782i do00:47
sebsebsebdevn:  Ubuntu 6.06 is  nearly not suppourted anymore00:47
glitchdraylz, u think u could help me figure this out?00:47
Raylzglitchd: dunno, i could try :)00:47
glitchdi have arch on my computer with a 15 inch monitor00:47
macd_marek__, crtl+r is for replace after you find.00:47
devnyes but i have an old world imac g3 so thats why i use 6.0600:47
VoodooDancehowdy all00:47
glitchdi jus got a 42 inch lch 1080 tv00:47
VoodooDanceHow difficult is it to setup dual boot for an existing Ubuntu installation with a new second hard drive?00:47
sebsebsebdevn: well 8.04 would probably run as well.00:47
ubuntux782i did  but it is not there because video card is old version00:47
sebsebseb!mac | devn00:48
ubottudevn: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE00:48
sebsebsebno good uhmmm00:48
glitchdraylz, how can i make the tv recognize the computer signal?00:48
disregardthatI can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?00:48
sebsebsebdevn:  ok I can't really help anyway, since I don't have a Mac.  sounds like to do with xorg your issue  or something like that, well if  Ubuntu on Mac is anything like Ubuntu on PC00:48
glitchdi pulgged it in nd i t all came up but when i logged in the display went all black00:48
sebsebsebdevn: there are other distros that work better on the Mac, for example Yellowdog Linux00:48
marek__thx folks00:49
Raylzglitchd: you need to configure it for a second monitor00:49
RichWglitchd, if using nvidia/ati, install their control panels00:49
vigoVoodooDancer: Is really quite easy to add almost any Debian based or Grub loaded, I had issues with some BSD stuff, but I fixed it,.00:49
Raylzglitchd: never done it myself but you have to look for xorg.conf or nvidia/ati tools00:49
glitchdhow can i figure out what i have?00:49
glitchdwhere can i find those??00:49
Raylzglitchd: lspci | grep VGA00:49
pirp999i've bricked my dg834 netgear router. I tried to put my on busybox config on it and now the eth ports are non-responsive, is it even possible to unbrick this?00:50
disregardthatCan anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working? They don't show up under HAL, I'm on an Inspiron E1505N, and it's not April Fools' Day yet for me. This is serious. Any advice?00:50
vigoVoodooDancer: I am running two Ubuntus' one Debian and gNewSence on two hard drives now, one box.00:51
ubuntux782thanks vigo00:51
ubuntux782bye00:51
Hfuywhere would I get this live CD?00:51
FlannelHfuy: ubuntu.com/download00:51
FlannelHfuy: the "desktop" CD is a liveCD you can try Ubuntu out with00:52
HfuyFlannel: Surely that'd just be an install CD.00:52
keithWhen I run dd on a partition, it seems like the information it is returning is not up to date with actions through the file system. Is this the case? If so, how can I get around it?00:52
FlannelHfuy: No, the Alternate CD is just an install CD.  The Desktop CD is a Live CD that you can also install with.00:52
marek__one more, in nano, when i type Ctrl+w i can see search box, there is also an information about regexp, i would like to use it, it has M-R shorcut, what doe it mean?00:52
HfuyWhich version do I want00:53
disregardthatCan anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my lptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.00:54
FlannelHfuy: you want 32bit, and also likely want 8.1000:54
chronicikonia, hey, i need you to unban me from ubuntu+100:55
sotec_prodWhy would my / drive be reading 0 bytes free?00:55
vigoFlannel:>>^500:55
raddadHas anybody ran civilization 2 or 3 in wine successfully?  ubuntu 8.04  and wine 1.1.1700:55
disregardthatCan anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my la ptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.00:55
Ropechoborradisregardthat, check http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/touchpad-issues-with-dell-laptop-700849/ i think there you will find the answer00:55
riwaIs there some way to reset the mouse settings to default?00:55
disregardthatRopechoborra: Will read, thanks.00:55
Flannelchronic: #ubuntu-ops for things like that00:56
disregardthatchronic: Ask unitedpotsmokers about that, it's probably his department. ;)00:56
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unitedpotsmokerslol00:56
chronic42000:56
Flannelchronic: Please stay on topic.00:56
disregardthatRopechoborra: I think this is a different issue.00:57
disregardthatI can't get it to even move the cursor.00:57
Teejay__hi00:57
sotec_prodDoes anyone know why my / drive is reading as 0 bytes free? If that's the case, how do I clean junk out of it to free up space? I'm not able to download anything...00:57
disregardthatsotec_prod: sudo apt-get clean00:57
Ropechoborradisregardthat, in the 2nd post there is a Quote wich talks about your laptop model. it says to add something in the xorg.conf00:57
sotec_prodI tried that00:57
VoodooDanceIs it possible to mount your boot partition and edit your grub configuration?00:57
Flannelsotec_prod: an eays way to clean some up is apt-get clean, yes.  But, check /var/log for runaway log files00:57
sebsebsebdisregardthat: did  #ubuntu+1 tell you to come back here?  :D00:58
Ropechoborradisregardthat, worths the effort to try :P00:58
LjLchronic: you know what the channel for ban-related requests is. ask again here, and you get banned from here too.00:58
disregardthatRopechoborra: I'm almost completely sure this is something else.00:58
disregardthatThat and xorg.conf doesn't do anything to my system.00:58
`Borg`why on some drives does ubuntu 64-bit (even though there is enough space on a drive) report that the drive does not have enough space?00:58
`Borg`bug?00:58
coppro`Borg`: how much extra space00:58
sotec_prodFlannel, I don't think I understand that. What's the significance of runaway log files?00:58
mshanksHey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?00:58
HfuyThere are no bugs in linux.00:58
HfuyOnly00:58
chronicLjL, lolz, dude , u know im banned from there00:58
Ropechoborradisregardthat, sorry, didnt noticed. You're right00:58
Hfuy"patches welcome"00:58
copproFor experimentation purposes, does there exist a package that allows software OpenGL rather than hardware (I'm aware that there will be slowdown), preferably for a single application00:59
`Borg`like major extra space coppro. 150Gb+00:59
Flannelsotec_prod: A log file that is far too large (assumingyou don't have a separate /var) and is taking up all of the space on your drive.00:59
Titan8990chronic, maybe you shouldn't do things that get you banned00:59
coppro`Borg`: Okay, the defeats my first guess.00:59
unitedpotsmokershey guys, im using windows xp now, and run ubuntu with vmware. i configure share folders in vmware and install vmware tools in ubuntu, and everything ok except share folder. where to find them in ubuntu?00:59
NithrinHow do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?00:59
copproPerhaps the partitioning is weird?00:59
sebsebsebchronic: your banned from +1?  same here00:59
so20fi downloaded a beta jaunty cd, and i'd like to use that to upgrade my system, can it be done? starting the update managner and using it oesn't find the CD00:59
sotec_prodFlannel, I can safely delete the log files, yes?00:59
copprounitedpotsmokers: read up on samba00:59
Flannelsotec_prod: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.00:59
Titan8990!samba | unitedpotsmokers00:59
ubottuunitedpotsmokers: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:59
Flannelsotec_prod: Yes.  Well, you'll lose the data in them, but nothing will explode.00:59
sotec_prodI don't have jaunty.00:59
makdinhellow00:59
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`Borg`ok just wanted a second imput on the matter. I've seen the problem rolling around the net somewhat.01:00
sotec_prodI have Intrepid.01:00
sebsebsebso20f: you can put on jaunty, but then your not entitled to suppourt here anymore01:00
sebsebsebso20f: basicalley01:00
makdinhellow01:00
makdinmorning01:00
raddadcould everybody type slower?  I'm not a speed reader LOL01:00
sebsebsebso20f: unless you got another previous version on another computer01:00
sotec_prodFlannel, I'll check the logs. Thanks.01:00
so20fsebsebseb, that's not what i'm asking.01:00
sebsebseb!jaunty01:00
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.01:00
makdinevery body here01:00
makdincan help me please01:01
orochihello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors01:01
so20fsebsebseb, it's a live CD, and i'd like to use it to update my system. instead of formatting the drive and installing jaunty.01:01
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disregardthatCan anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my laptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.01:01
sotec_prodFlannel, my entire /var/log folder is 6.6mb. that can't be it.01:01
sebsebsebso20f: you can install a version of Ubuntu, and upgrade it yeah01:01
matty_bis there any way to search man pages?01:01
Flannelso20f: Again, please ask in #ubuntu+1.  But no, you can't upgrade from Desktop CDs, only Alternate CDs.01:01
disregardthatsotec_prod: try sudo apt-get clean01:01
copproorochi: UDP is not normally checked.01:02
`Borg`& Hfuy, if a software has a problem that needs a patch, typically that is referred to as a 'bug fix.'01:02
sotec_proddisregardthat, I have several times01:02
disregardthatah01:02
amgarchIn9matty_b: man -k keyword01:02
matty_bthanks01:03
Teejay__anybody installed ubuntu on ausus eee pc 701SD and managed to get the ethernet port working?01:03
Teejay__when I tried to install ubuntu on it, it would not pick up the ethernet01:03
sebsebsebTeejay__: they aren't suppourted here, but  ubuntu eee  or easypeasy  are better on  the eepc's  as far as I know.01:03
allowoverrideim back01:03
allowoverrideDreamglider you still here? :)01:03
raddadIf I install 8.10 over 8.04 will it nuke everything already in place; as in a clean slate with no installs, wipe out email accounts etc?01:03
amgarchIn9matty_b: "man man" also works01:03
allowoverrideDreamglider: you mentioned restricted drivers... let's talk about that for a few... k01:04
sotec_prodraddad, yes01:04
sebsebsebraddad: probably01:04
lukinforehi! when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?01:04
gartralok, this is a pain in my arse, ah need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?01:04
keithAre device drivers in /dev not kept up to date when a drive is modified through the file system?01:04
raddadthat's what I thought, thanks01:04
copproHow do I figure out if I'm using MESA?01:04
NithrinHow do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?01:04
xun_Hi, I think I ran into a bug in compiz's Unfold under the Desktop Cube, I only see 3 screens instead of 4, with 1 of them duplicated... I'm running off dual monitor btw. can someone help?01:05
Dreamgliderallowoverride: here01:05
allowoverridegreat...01:05
allowoverridesorry i had to go away for spell, grab my son from school01:05
sotec_prodFlannel, uninstalling programs via Synaptic or apt-get is'nt going to free up space is it? I think (I don't remember) I set /home on it's own partition for contingency.01:05
allowoverrideyou mentioned restricted drivers, i am already running restricted for the ati card01:05
copproxun_: You probably have one desk top on each monitor, so the other doesn't appear on the cube01:05
sotec_prodthat may be why it's full01:05
allowoverridei wonder if that will be a good mix in the first place01:05
allowoverridelol01:05
xun_coppro, sorry i don't quite get that. what do you mean one desktop on each monitor?01:06
Dreamgliderallowoverride: to i doubt i can help you much, i just installed the restricted drivers for the graphic card (ati x1400) and compiz and hey presto full 3d desktop and cube and stuff01:06
copprosotec_prod: it should. Also, to check partitions, look at /etc/fstab01:06
Flannelsotec_prod: Run baobab and see what's up.  Or du or something.  How many partitions do you have?  is it / and /home and that's it?  (df will tell you)01:06
copproxun_: Well, if you have four desktops, and one is on each monitor01:06
copprothen I guess compiz doesn't show the other one on the cube01:06
allowoverrideDreamglider: so my question is sorta answered already... from what you mentioned prior, but how about the command or configs i may require, may i have a look at your xorg.conf or something else? to compare and see if i am on the same page. also,, do i need glx or xlg to run compiz? i was reading the docs earlier01:07
xun_coppro, oh i see. no i'm using NVidia Twinview mode, so both monitor are seen as one desktop01:07
copproah01:07
gartralok, this is a pain, i need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?01:07
copprohmm01:07
copproyou sure you're on four desktops01:07
mshanksHey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?01:07
xun_coppro,, yes i can rotate the cube just fine01:08
allowoverridealso, if something breaks, like it did in the past, i had to reinstall the os. very new to ubuntu01:08
xun_it just has one of them duplicated... so that's why I can only see 3 of them.01:09
allowoverridesomething along these lines....   sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager01:09
copproxun_: But do you have four desktops set?01:09
Mean_Adminok, last check: if I add "icarus ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/script" as last line in /etc/sudoers, it should allow icarus (and only icarus) to execute script that's supposed to be executed by root(or rather sudo)?01:09
Hfuyallowoverride: Is it a desktop or a laptop?01:09
allowoverridelappy,,,01:10
HfuyGood luck, you'll need it.01:10
allowoverrideATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X140001:10
allowoverride8.04 LTS desktop01:10
sotec_prodbaobab reports that / is full01:10
HfuyIs it one that's specifically mentioned as working well under linux on any website?01:10
VoodooDanceIf I have 2 hard drives... one Ubuntu and one Windows XP... is dual booting possible?01:11
lukinforewhen I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?01:11
Mean_AdminVoodooDance: yeah it should01:11
mshanksVoodooDance; yes01:11
so20fany reason why i can't configure my card with iwconfig anymore? it keeps disconnecting from the AP from local choice (dmesg output) but using the network manager program it's flawless. any ideas?01:12
VoodooDanceIs it ok for dual boot to have one SATA and one regular IDE?01:12
xun_coppro, yes i'm pretty sure01:12
xun_although I don't know where to change the number of desktops's set01:12
sotec_prodFlannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?01:12
xun_i just viewed Desktop Wall, and it shows 4 desktops as well...01:12
RedWarbak!  Hey what's the deal with using the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu. Why is it still so damned difficult? How can I get it to work?01:13
sotec_prodVoodooDance, I have 3 IDE's and one SATA II drive, and I've triple-booted that config. Works fine.01:14
Lunie2nsAnyone have a moment to help a noob connect to wireless network with ubuntu on my laptop?01:14
NithrinWhere can I get the Firefox plugin called  Live IP Address?01:14
VoodooDancesotec_prod, ty01:14
sotec_prodno problem01:14
VoodooDanceMean_Admin, mshanks ty01:14
Dreamgliderallowoverride: installing compiz should install everything it needs, sure ill pastebin the xorg.conf01:14
copproso20f: You will need to turn networkmanager off to do manual configuration; /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop01:14
HfuyI had to install compiz on an eee-pc once.01:15
HfuyGod it was a nightmare.01:15
so20fcoppro, i did01:15
so20fcoppro, uninstalled it with apt-get to make sure of that as well. same result.01:15
copproOo01:16
sotec_prodFlannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?01:16
NithrinWhere can I get the  Live IP Address Firefox plugin?01:16
Lunie2ns...anyone?01:16
mapsuyhi how do i install nmap latest version?01:17
LjL!latest | mapsuy01:17
ubottumapsuy: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.01:17
Dreamgliderallowoverride: u got the link ?01:17
ge0rge007i use kubuntu 8.10 and i cant figure out how to make my external usb sound card work(behringer uca202).Could anyone help me?01:18
The-Mentorladies and gentlemen good night01:18
mapsuyLjL: can our nmap scan for conficker virus then? any idea?01:18
LjLmapsuy: no, i don't know. what does scanning for it involves?01:19
sotec_prodCan I safely uninstall Evolution? I will most likely NEVER need it.01:19
nadoyou need the latest beta version of nmap mapsuy, beta5 i believe01:19
alevineis it possible to move a hard drive with ubuntu on it to a completely different system and boot from it without any problems?01:19
mapsuynmap --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args=safe=1  -p139,445 -d1 192.168.1.1   <--but this doesnt run cuz of that script01:19
nadoalevine, very unlikely01:20
JakeLLI'm having an install CD problem, anyone willing to help?01:20
PoetOfShadows!ask | JakeLL01:20
ubottuJakeLL: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)01:20
space_cadetJakeLL, burn it at <= 4x?01:21
space_cadetJakeLL, or use unetbootin to 'burn' yourself an ubuntu live usb01:21
RedWarGentlemen any ideas, the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu, how do I get it to work?01:21
alevinenado: what would the problem be? isn't the kernel one size fits all?01:21
RedWarand ladies sorry01:21
nadoalevine, i would say a file system problem01:21
space_cadetJakeLL, with the cd are you getting I/O errors?01:21
nadoalevine, is the hard disk you are copying to the same ?01:22
alevinenado: i'm not copying anything. I just want to take the hard drive from this computer, slide it into a different system (different mobo, cpu, RAM etc) and boot01:22
JakeLLubotto: K   All:  I burned the unzipped package from ubuntu to 2 CDs one without boot info and one with.01:22
Flannelsotec_prod: How big is your /?01:22
JakeLLThe one without never boots01:23
nadoalevine, oh i see... yes it could work01:23
IenorandHow can I put chainloading into a vesamenu (UNetBootIn)01:23
sotec_prodFlannel, 9.78gb01:23
alevinenado: any reason why it wouldn't?01:23
JakeLLThe one one with allows me to get to my DVD drive but none of the fies are executable01:23
Lunie2nsHello, can anyone help me, I am new, using Ubuntu 9.04, on my laptop I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 AirForce One 54g 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02),  and I am trying to connect to a TEW-611BRP router wirelessly, any help?..01:23
JakeLLfies=files01:23
rwwLunie2ns: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)01:23
zhuraiLunie2ns: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support01:23
nadoalevine, maybe some driver issues, but nothing you couldn't solve01:23
space_cadetJakeLL, unzipped package??01:23
Lunie2nsok thanks01:23
space_cadetJakeLL, you should have gotten an ISO from the website.01:24
alevinenado: cool01:24
alevinethanks01:24
Flannelsotec_prod: alright, so.  Since that's plenty, we have to figure out what's taking up so much space.  Try firing up baobob01:24
space_cadetJakeLL, then you burn the iso @ 4x or slower01:24
sotec_prodFlannel, ok01:24
JakeLLAaaah.  K.  I knew I must ahve been doing something idiotic. I thought it was a .rar file01:25
JakeLLI should have looked closer.01:25
space_cadetJakeLL, OR use unetbootin from windows to write yourself an ubuntu live usb flash disk01:25
space_cadetfrom the ISO01:25
Dreamgliderwhen did the 4x speed ever helped ? i always use full speen never been a problem ?01:25
sotec_prodFlannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes01:25
sebsebsebLunie2ns: !jaunty01:25
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Kiyikoare the ubuntu servers slow, or is my internet messed up? i am trying to update my computer, but its only going at about 500 b/s01:26
mshanksHey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?01:26
matty_bi'm having a quick question with alias01:26
matty_b*problem01:26
matty_bif i set an alias, how do i unset it?01:26
matty_bi used 'alias blah=whatever', not .bashrc01:27
space_cadetborderline flood?01:27
space_cadet!enter01:27
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:27
matty_bsorry.01:27
nadomatty_b, unalias01:27
mrwesmatty_b, that'll only stay until you log out01:27
sotec_prodFlannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes01:27
NithrinHow does one use ActiveX in Ubuntu? Should one use ActiveX in Ubuntu?01:27
matty_bah thanks mrwes, i was wondering why my old one that worked disappeared.01:28
space_cadetactivex... isnt that microsoft crap?01:28
avleenhey folks :) Is there some public read access to the version control system which holds the ubuntu package sources?01:28
nadomatty_b, if you want to keep them around just add them to your .bashrc01:28
mrwesmatty_b, stick it in .bashrc or .bash_aliases to make it permenant01:28
matty_bhow do i make an alias where the command contains single quotes?01:28
nadouse a \01:28
nadobefore the quote01:28
space_cadetNithrin, hmm..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5667501:29
matty_bnot working.01:29
rww!source > avleen    (avleen, see the private message from ubottu)01:29
Flannelsotec_prod: How did you free it?  Also, a hundred megs isn't really significant.  What on earth is taking up 9GB?01:29
matty_bi'm trying to do this: alias mbz='find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec unzip -o '{}' \;'01:29
sotec_prodFlannel, I freed the space by uninstalling via Synaptic01:30
matty_bto no avail.01:30
mrwesFlannel, he checked root Trash?01:30
Flannelmrwes: Tell him that ;)01:30
sotec_prodroot Trash!01:30
sotec_prodbrb01:30
jeanettehow spelling for restart for terminal.. without reboot...01:30
jeanettesudo restart ???01:30
space_cadetctrl+alt+backspace?01:30
LjLjeanette: restart without reboot...?01:30
mrwesFlannel, shrug... :)01:30
space_cadetsudo shutdown -r now?01:31
jeanetteLjL: yes i dont want reboot. make it tool long.. just quick. restart in terminal..01:31
sotec_prodWhere is root Trash?01:31
nadomatty_b, try this : alias mbz="find . -type f -name '*.zip' -exec unzip -o '{}' \;"01:31
mrwes!Trash01:31
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash01:31
mrwes!root trash01:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about root trash01:31
mrweser01:32
ugliefroghow do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu01:32
space_cadetjeanette, sudo shutdown -r now    that is about as close to restart you are going to get...  you could restart your x session and ctrl+alt+backspace or simply log out...01:32
TokenekieHi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?01:32
jeanetteokt hanks]01:32
jeanette let me try01:32
matty_bnado: it's saying 'find: missing argument to '-exec'01:33
sotec_prodHAhaha, I delete the files there, and they flash back into the trash. That's classic.01:33
ugliefroghow do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu01:33
nadomatty_b, worked here.. did you copy paste what i gave you ?01:33
Kiyikomy updates are running at about 500 B/s, any idea why/how to fix?01:33
mrwessotec_prod, /root/.local/share/Trash01:34
sotec_prodKiyiko, you can change the server they download updates from01:34
sotec_prodSoftware Sources in System menu01:34
matty_bi did, nada.01:34
mrwesugliefrog, you can use gparted, you might need to install it first01:34
ubunttuwho can gives me some tutorials links for java source code building01:34
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sotec_prodKiyiko, then check Dowload From: and choose another server. There is also a button that will ping all the servers and find the best one for you. I did it today and it worked tits.01:35
nadomatty_b, you are using bash right ?01:35
matty_bi am.01:35
dominikhi. i am trying to configure kismet and have a hard time determining which interface to use for my card (bcm43xx). iwconfig says no wireless extensions are available and I am too much a newbie to figure out what to do. can anybody help me out?01:35
nadojust copy pasted the entire line in my bash.. and it worked01:35
sotec_prodmrwes, I did that. I deleted the files there and they deleted themselves right back into place.01:35
nadomatty_b, notice the double quotes at beginning and end01:36
mrwessotec_prod, how did you delete them?01:36
sotec_prodmrwes, delete key.01:36
space_cadettry shift delete?01:36
matty_byep yep.01:37
mrwessotec_prod, use the shift + delete key01:37
mrwesspace_cadet, :)01:37
space_cadetlol01:37
sotec_prodmrwes, besides that, there's only six small files in that trash. Not enough to warrant 9.78gb full.01:37
codeblissWhere is the most common place to install programs without aptitude?01:37
matty_balright i got it working.01:37
matty_bthanks nado.01:37
mrwessotec_prod, did you hit ctrl + H to show hidden files too?01:38
codeblissIs it /usr/bin?  Just /bin?01:38
nadomatty_b, no problem01:38
space_cadetcodebliss, synaptic or apt-get ?01:38
codeblissI just need to install leksah, a Haskell IDE, and I don't want to put it in a non-standard location01:38
nadocodebliss, /usr/local/bin01:38
codeblissIIRC there are multiple places where programs are installed, but one is most common01:38
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codeblissWell there is no "installing", but you get my point.01:39
space_cadetapt-get?01:39
RopechoborraI've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp301:39
space_cadetor you mean placement of a folder?01:39
codeblissIgnore my aptitude comment lol.01:39
sotec_prodmrwes, yes and yes. Still reading as 0 bytes free.01:39
codeblissWhere should I put the folder the program resides in?01:39
space_cadet~/01:39
space_cadet?01:39
codeblissThe most common place on nix systems for just general programs01:39
dominikcodebliss: /opt or home if there's no installation/compilation01:39
sotec_prodI don't know what the hell is going on here. I can't imagine I filled up 10gb of space already01:39
space_cadetlol, I use the home folder...01:39
codeblissFor a system wide program, not for just me  =)01:39
nadocodebliss, i told you /usr/local/bin is where the binary should be01:40
codeblissThanks, I wanted to get more than one opinion though =).  Thank you01:40
mrwesnado, aren't both in the path? /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?01:40
nadocodebliss, lol this is not a democratic process. You ask a question you get an answer :)01:40
space_cadetyep no votes...01:41
codeblissThis is IRC son, chill out.  I'll use /usr/bin.01:41
nadomrwes, can be both but usually for user added programs it should go in /usr/local/bin01:41
mrwescodebliss,  you can put it anywhere you want, long as it's in your path statement it'll run01:41
PhotoJimI agree, /usr/local/bin is where locally-compiled or written stuff should go01:42
mrwesnado, Ok...got it01:42
PhotoJimbut if a person prefers to put stuff in /usr/lib/empty, that's ok with me I guess.01:42
mrwesheh01:42
nadoPhotoJim, true :D01:42
RopechoborraI've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp301:42
* sotec_prod installs everything right into /.local/share/Trash01:42
Sal--can anyone help me setup my samba server so it can be accessed outside of my network?01:42
mrwesPhotoJim, what about putting it in: /here/because/I/Can ?01:43
mrwes:)01:43
matty_bhow do i execute a binary?01:43
Sal--./01:43
space_cadet./nameofbinary?01:43
space_cadetlol01:43
Sal--or what cadet said01:43
PhotoJimmrwes: that's a really bad idea.  /here/because/I/shouldn\'t/ is ok though.01:43
matty_bthanks.01:43
mrweswh00p! OK01:43
Sal--su root; rm -r /*01:44
mrweshrmmm01:44
space_cadetno01:44
sotec_proddammit. Why is my drive full?01:44
Sal--:P01:44
* sotec_prod grumbles01:44
* Sal-- gargles01:44
* sotec_prod rabbles01:44
* Sal-- scattles01:44
* sotec_prod skibbydidoobobs01:44
TokenekieHi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?01:45
Sal--does port 445 have to be open for my samba server to work?01:45
nanotube_Tokenekie: just run your apt-get or synaptic as usual.01:45
nanotube_Tokenekie: but if you are running from a livecd or usb, none of the changes you make will be saved...01:45
TokenekieYeah that what i thought01:46
* space_cadet slaps Sal-- with a big large trout.01:46
matty_bthis prog is saying '11: java not found'01:46
* Sal-- slaps space_cadet with a big large scout01:46
TokenekieWhere can I check for updated files? And I'm guessing we have to manually replace the files on the live USB?01:46
matty_bwhat's the package name for the jre, as apt-cache search isn't yielding anything01:46
matty_bor i should say what's the standard one.01:47
arturisexit01:47
nanotube_Tokenekie: there are probably nicer more automatic tools to remaster a livecd/liveusb... check out some docs on ubuntu wiki, maybe...01:47
nanotube_!liveusb01:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about liveusb01:47
space_cadetmatty_b, you want java?01:47
nanotube_!livecd01:47
space_cadet!java01:47
ubottuThe Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.01:47
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:47
FAJHi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?01:47
RopechoborraTokenekie, You might try chrooting in the usb and then updateing I think it will do01:47
matty_bthanks space_cadet01:47
space_cadetyep01:48
Sal--actually my port is open01:48
TokenekieAh, I'll try that01:48
nanotube_Tokenekie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization01:48
Sal--heh and i can't connect via samba01:48
Sal--weird :(01:48
NithrinAny programs that will allow me to play MUDs in Ubuntu?01:49
FAJHi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?01:49
TokenekieNano, do you know if this works for liveUSB's off the top of your head?01:49
Tokenekieyour link01:49
sotec_prodmrwes, what about deborphan?01:49
sotec_prodWill that help?01:49
mapsuyanyone in herer trying to detect conficker virus using nmap? any howto?01:50
Sal--can anyone assist me with my samba server issue?01:50
nanotube_Tokenekie: no, not off the top of my head... but if not, at worst you could always make a livecd first, then convert it to a liveusb...01:50
safruhanihi, i use ubuntu 8.10, how can i start sshd?01:50
TokenekieHm, alright01:51
nanotube_!sshd01:51
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:51
TokenekieThanks01:51
nanotube_safruhani: by default it's not installed. install it with package "openssh-server". then it will start automatically.01:51
nanotube_Tokenekie: np :)01:51
allowoverridehow can i put things back after installing compiz if it breaks the gui, like it has in the past? do i simply remove ~/.compiz or is there something more?01:52
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nadomapsuy, did you get the lastest version of nmap from their website ?01:53
curtmy sound does not work in the latest version of ubuntu the alpha01:53
safruhaninanotube_: thanx a lot01:53
curtcan someone please help me01:53
Pupuser402-1!jaunty | curt01:53
ubottucurt: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.01:53
keith_why does dd show a lost+found folder even after I deleted it from the partition?01:54
nadomapsuy, then you can read the top article here : http://insecure.org/01:54
nadokeith_, it's created by the filesystem ext301:55
nanotube_safruhani: np :)01:55
nanotube_curt: state your need...01:55
nadokeith_, actually it might be fsck01:56
keith_nado, I created a ext2 partition and dd showed the lost+found, I mounted the drive and deleted the folder, but dd still shows the same output.01:56
keith_nado, It was created when I ran mkfs.ext201:56
curtnanotube_: i had 8.04 installed and just today i freshly installed 8.04 alpha and the sound does not work01:56
nadokeith_, whenever an fsck is run on your partition.. it will create a lost+found01:56
nadokeith_, you can this little thread about it : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-229143.html01:57
keith_nado, that isn't the point. The point is nautilus shows no folder, but dd output does.01:57
rwwcurt: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)01:57
PhotoJimkeith_: just a guess, but perhaps nautilus ignores it, or ignores it if it's empty.01:58
keith_PhotoJim: I deteted it in nautilus01:58
keith_PhotoJim: actually, it does the same thing if I rm it01:59
curtcan someone please just help me01:59
PhotoJimkeith_: I don't know.  but you shouldn't delete it.  it's a system folder.01:59
PhotoJimcurt: we don't support Jaunty (8.04) here.  join #ubuntu+1.  They support it there.01:59
nanotube_PhotoJim: jaunty is 9.0401:59
PhotoJimOops.01:59
PhotoJimSorry :)01:59
keith_PhotoJim: It is a symptom of the bigger problem. If I create a file in the partition, then run dd, the output hasn't changed.02:00
PhotoJimcurt: never mind.  I was confused.  We do support 8.04 here.02:00
PhotoJimkeith_: I'm puzzled.  dd simply reads partitions at the system level and sends the data somewhere else.  it doesn't actually look at the contents of the filesystem.02:00
zaccourhow do i access trash can without a toolbar? i decided to use avn instead of a toolbar at the bottom02:01
nanotube_PhotoJim: but he said 8.04 alpha, so he prabably meant jaunty02:01
x2ohi, does anybody know how to use gnome-voice-control?02:01
keith_PhotoJim: I am looking at its output.02:01
nanotube_zaccour: it's in a .Trash folder somewhere in your home dir.02:01
zaccourthanks02:01
nanotube_zaccour: but i am not on my ubuntu machine at the moment, so can't tell you exactly where02:01
PhotoJimkeith_: I don't know then, sorry.02:01
keith_PhotoJim: thanks anyway... :(02:02
nanotube_zaccour: try running command "find /home/yourusername -name '.Trash' "02:02
makey030hello all!02:02
nadokeith_, your partition is ext2 ?02:02
makey030I need help02:02
keith_nado, I made an ext2 partition02:02
zaccournanotube_, how do i do that?02:02
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keith_nado, my system is actually ext4, but that isn't really relevant. :-p02:03
mrweszaccour, home directory /.local/share/Trash02:03
nadoand you are running that dd on the ext2 partition ?02:03
Sal--anyone wanna make 20$ ?02:03
zaccouri found it, thanks anyway yall02:04
Sal--helping my fix my samba server issue02:04
Sal--helping me* even02:04
safruhaninanotube_: if u've been connect from linux to linux via ssh, what would advice it about to a newbie (like me)02:04
nadokeith_, on what partition are you using the dd ?02:05
nanotube_safruhani: could you clarify what you are asking? if you are connected, it's all good, and there's no advice. ... :)02:05
keith_nado, I am using it to read the data from the ext2 partition02:05
makey030hello all02:06
makey030i need help with my ubuntu system02:06
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safruhaninanotube_: nevermind, thanks for your patience02:06
nadomakey030, please just ask your question02:06
makey030i am trying to do what is on this article: http://tinyurl.com/c8ck6402:07
mib_18mmrgquick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?02:07
makey030but i am having an issue02:07
makey030http://tinyurl.com/c8ck6402:07
nanotube_mib_18mmrg: try that in offtopic02:07
Sal--I have my samba server running on my Ubuntu server. Both ports 445 and 139 are open. I modified the config to allow use of home directories, and created a samba user with a password and enabled the user. When I try to connect, it just simply times out and never connects. Any ideas where to go from here?02:08
mrwesSal--, post your /etc/samba/smb.conf to the paste bin02:09
mib_18mmrgquick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?02:09
Sal--1 sec mrwes02:09
_WhipperSal--: dunno anything about networking.. :) just fought 5hrs with my wifi.. lame...02:09
mib_18mmrgnanotube_: nobody's in off-topic02:09
LjL!ot | mib_18mmrg02:09
ubottumib_18mmrg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:09
PhotoJimmib_18mmrg: I have 3 laptops.  which one? :)02:10
mib_18mmrgPhotoJim: just.. all of them. I need a random sampleing.02:10
_Whippermib_18mmrg: hmm.. depends on the the force..02:10
LjL!offtopic02:10
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:10
LjLwhich part of this isn't clear?02:10
allowoverridethe part that is still fuzzy02:11
_WhipperLjL: sorry, bad day?02:11
allowoverride;)02:11
Sal--_Whipper: http://pastebin.com/m40763c0602:11
LjLback on topic, please. now.02:11
Sal--thanks in advance, for trying to help as well02:11
Sal--yikes :(02:11
x2ohi, i am using wmii but want to use metacity for a moment with gnome, but it complains that it dont find the sessionfiles02:12
sdlwofhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker  midnight tonight! hope your using opensource!02:13
LjL!offtopic02:13
mrwesSal--, and you added the samba users ?02:14
Sal--mrwes: 1 sec02:14
nate__Hi can anyone help me with the program Eclipse, I installed eclipse and the import.java.scanner is Not working :X02:14
Sal--mrwes: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/02:14
ubunttuwhat's java cannal name ?02:14
sacreno_hi there ...noob here..i have a question02:14
Sal--i follow that tutorial, and added one user, myself, the same username already had a shell account02:14
hackeronWhat's the new 9.04 repository called?02:15
Sal--i also ran smbpasswd -e sal, to enable the user02:15
LjL!jaunty > hackeron    (hackeron, see the private message from ubottu)02:15
hackeronLjL: thanks02:15
crdlbubunttu: try ##java02:15
ubunttucrdlb: i'm trying02:16
sacreno_after typing "sudo apt-get install Emacs" where does the exicutable install?02:17
rylasasinwow.... lot of people in here02:17
=== chrisrio is now known as chrisryo
PhotoJimsacreno_: just type "whereis emacs" and it will tell you.02:17
nadosacreno_, you can type : which emacs to figure that out02:17
sacreno_sweet thanks02:17
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=== curtis is now known as curt
Sal--mrwes any idea?02:18
hhp2kHey everyone, happy Tuesday :) Can someone tell me what command I need to give the terminal to open a folder window with super-user rights?02:18
Nate13why does it say i need to be identified to join?02:18
ubunttucrdlb : it not java channel !02:18
dsmith_hi I cannot read dvd's but they do autoload, when I put in a dvd02:18
Nate13sudo nautilus02:18
noglorpI cannot update firefox to save my life :/02:18
LjLNate13: to join what?02:18
orochihello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors02:18
dsmith_ libdvdread3 is already installed02:18
hhp2kNate13: Thank you :)02:18
Nate13i just need to get to an ubuntu Java help channel02:18
dsmith_nog02:18
crdlbubunttu: it appears to be +r, which means you need to be registered02:19
noglorpyes?02:19
dsmith_noglorp: update via synaptic02:19
noglorpI tried to update with apt02:19
mrwesSal--, this is the guide I used on my server: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20260502:19
sacreno_PhotoJim_:is there a way to move the file or create a shortcut in a folder or desktop?02:19
Nate13where do i register?02:19
nadosacreno_, man ln is what you want02:20
Sal--mrwes, could it be hte workgroup is playing a role?02:20
Sal--the samba server is running on a box outside of my home network02:20
Sal--and im tryingto mount the shares from home02:20
nadosacreno_, ln -s target_file link_name02:20
noglorpdsmith_: I did apt-get install firefox, and now synatpic thinks it is up to date apparently02:20
PhotoJimsacreno_: moving the file isn't very wise.  but nado's suggestion to make a link to it is a good one.02:20
mrwesSal--, what happens when you try to mount the shares?02:20
noglorpand yet, firefox is still 3.0.402:20
sacreno_kk02:20
Sal--mrwes it looks like it just times out02:20
sacreno_thanks ill work onit02:21
mrwesSal--,  you behind a router?02:21
dsmith_nog02:21
Sal--yes, but it's irrelevant02:21
PhotoJimsacreno_: but if you have a shell / terminal open, you just have to type "emacs".  these directories are in your search path so the system finds the file automatically.02:21
noglorpyes02:21
rww!register > Nate13    (Nate13, see the private message from ubottu)02:21
Sal--i can open all ports on my end02:21
Sal--at home that is02:21
dsmith_noglorp: backup your fx directory02:21
dsmith_purge and reinstall02:21
Sal--the server itself, has both ports open02:21
noglorpyuck02:21
noglorpokay02:21
mrwesSal--, and the box on the other end?02:21
noglorpthats horrible that I have to do that though :(02:21
Sal--the box hosting hte samba server has ports 139 and 445 open02:21
sacreno_k...only been on linux for 1 day..hope im not bothering ya02:22
nanotube_noglorp: are the update repos enabled?02:22
nanotube_noglorp: and which version of ubuntu are you using?02:22
PhotoJimsacreno_: there is a learning curve. :)02:22
sacreno_:)02:22
noglorpnanotube_: I have 3.0.402:23
noglorpnanotube_: but synaptic lists it as 3.0.802:23
Spirits-Sightwhat is the best program to play a block buster02:23
Spirits-SightDEV02:23
nanotube_noglorp: version of /ubuntu/02:23
noglorpnanotube_: I've made sure no firefox instances are running02:23
Spirits-SightDEV = DVD sorry02:23
noglorpnanotube_: ah02:24
nanotube_noglorp: and synaptic lists it as installed?02:24
sebsebseb!best >  Spirits-Sight02:24
ubottuSpirits-Sight, please see my private message02:24
sebsebseb!best02:24
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:24
sebsebsebSpirits-Sight: go to that channel02:24
noglorpHardy02:24
rww!dvd > Spirits-Sight    (Spirits-Sight, see the private message from ubottu)02:24
nanotube_noglorp: if you run from the cli "firefox --version" what does it say?02:25
rylasasinjust out of curosity.... is it possible to hack into a linux box? I ask not because I want to, but because I've BEEN hacked into on windows several times already02:25
Spirits-SightI have a DVD that has close captioning on it Moly and Me movie gf want to watch now :-)  please help02:25
noglorpMozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org02:25
LjLrylasasin: yes, it's possible in several instances02:25
nohupHey, I noticed that Novell just released a new ifolder.  http://www.ifolder.com  Any idea if the ifolder server could be packaged for Ubuntu?02:25
LjLrylasasin: it's unlikely, though, if you keep your system updated, use strong passwords, and don't install services that you don't need or know about02:25
kiyikokiyiko02:26
nanotube_rylasasin: yes, if you have some services running with easily-guessable passwords...02:26
rylasasinLjL: is it possible for a hacker to do much damage? or at least as much damage as one hacking into a windows box02:26
sebsebsebrylasasin: yeah what Ljl  said, and  a hardware firewall in say a router that is enabled, is good,  whatever the OS if it's internet connected have a firewall02:26
sebsebsebrylasasin: no only if they gain access to root, becasue of say a bad password02:26
LjLrylasasin: yes, it's possible if they manage to get in in the first place02:26
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nanotube_noglorp: hrm... try closing all firefoxes (and make sure no firefox processes remain - check in the system process list) and then run "sudo apt-get reinstall firefox"02:26
noglorpI checked with ps aux | grep firefox02:27
sebsebsebrylasasin: by the way for reference,  more correct terms are  cracker and blackhat02:27
noglorpok02:27
LjLsebsebseb: if an attacker manages to get in as *any* account, escalation to root is very likely02:27
nanotube_noglorp: wait sorry02:27
noglorpum, do I need to back things up for reinstall?02:27
nanotube_noglorp: i think it's supposed to be "sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall". i'm not on my ubuntu box, so can't check...02:28
sotec_prodmrwes, cleaned and cleaned, and still only 196mb free on /02:28
sotec_prodargh.02:28
nanotube_noglorp: if the first one doesn't work, try the second one :)02:28
noglorpah02:28
sebsebsebLjL: true02:28
noglorpk :D02:28
nanotube_noglorp: no need to back up, reinstall is quite safe.02:28
nanotube_noglorp: but of course... backups are generally always good. :)02:28
noglorp--reinstall is workin02:28
nanotube_noglorp: cool. let's hope it works. :)02:28
noglorpBLARG02:29
noglorpSetting up firefox (3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.2) ...02:29
BlackCoffeekonqueror is giving me this message  Error: http://www.alibaba.com/: TypeError: Undefined value02:29
rylasasinok. one last question: how differcult is it, compared to windows, is it easy to crack or blackhat into an ubuntu build? say they have a 20 charcter (or whatever the max size pass is) of random letters made in a pass generator  for the super-user02:29
BlackCoffeeand then after a while it closes02:29
noglorpMozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org02:29
BlackCoffeewhat should i do?02:29
noglorpoh wait02:29
noglorpno02:30
noglorpstill 3.0.302:30
nanotube_noglorp: try "sudo apt-get update", then again a reinstall (just to make sure you have pulled the latest updates...)02:30
noglorpkay02:30
noglorpoh02:30
noglorpI did that a couple minutes ago02:30
sebsebsebrylasasin: in general  Windows is more likely to get cracked into, and you can make an  Ubuntu install  rather secure, if you know what your doing, you may want to find out about iptables as well02:31
nanotube_noglorp: ok then never mind02:31
sebsebseb!iptables02:31
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:31
hhp2kHey everyone, I'm having some trouble with Compiz.  I've initiated it thru the terminal by typing 'compiz' but now the window borders are missing from all of my windows, and the terminal gave me this: http://pastebin.ca/137851802:31
noglorpmaybe I'll just run upgrade02:31
nanotube_noglorp: hrm... how about trying "which firefox" see what that says02:31
dreamyive tryed to restore grub(after tryng to isntall xp)  from a live cd  but it cant find no hard disk devices or partitions02:31
sebsebseb!grub02:32
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:32
dreamyive done it reading those istructions :)02:32
dreamylol02:32
noglorpits /usr/bin/firefox, --> /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 --> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox02:32
sebsebsebdreamy: ok maybe you deleted all the partitions02:32
noglorp/usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox is the only real firefox executable02:32
dreamysebsebseb: ive been following those instructions02:32
dreamysebastien: but xp install setup can see them :S02:32
nanotube_noglorp: hrm... well... then i'm out of ideas. everything seems as it should be. don't know why it says its 3.0.302:32
dreamystrange..02:32
noglorpmaybe I'll back up and reinstall02:33
noglorpI mean remove and reinstall02:33
nanotube_noglorp: maybe they forgot to update the version string on firefox? let's ask some other hardy users to see what their "firefox --version" says.02:33
sebsebseb!tab |  dreamy02:33
ubottudreamy: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:33
bartekHi there, I just got a new Logitech microphone and it seems to work but I have to be incredibly close to it to talk into it. Basically, it's very quiet in Ubuntu but it works fine in Windows. Any tips on fixing this?02:33
nanotube_any hardy users here? running all the lates tupdates? could you tell me what it says if you run "firefox --version" ?02:33
sebsebsebdreamy: type seb  and press tab and  it will auto complete02:33
dreamysebastien: ive been doing hat ..02:34
dreamyim using tab02:34
noglorpthe about page of firefox is 3.0.3 too though :/02:34
dreamysebastien: is thare any command i can run ? to be shure about whats going on with my partitions ?02:34
nanotube_noglorp: both of those pull from the same string. so of course they'd be the same.02:34
sebsebsebdreamy: and picking the wrong name in the list.   anyway what partitions do you see exactly?02:34
dreamysebastien: why did you mentioned about the tab ? ive been using it02:35
Spirits-SightI am getting this error: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. when trying to play the dvd after following the instruction of the link that was provided02:35
nanotube_any hardy users here? anyone?02:35
sebsebsebnanotube_: used to be, just say your issue02:35
nanotube_sebsebseb: could you tell me what "firefox --version" says for you?02:36
sebsebsebnanotube_: what it says?????  I am on 9.04 beta now :D  so  won't be quite the same I guess.   what it says as in what Firefox says in about firefox or what the user agent says?02:36
noglorpfinally!02:37
twolanenanotube_: x86-64 yes hardy. Mozilla Firefox 3.0.8, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org02:37
nanotube_sebsebseb: no, to check whether the version string on 3.0.8 is updated in hardy.02:37
dreamysebsebseb: if it was just to let me know.. thanks i apreciate it02:37
noglorpnanotube_: got it02:37
noglorp"update manager" did it properly02:37
nanotube_noglorp: ah, cool ok, :)02:37
noglorpdid what apt-get and synaptic couldn't02:37
nanotube_noglorp: weird...02:37
noglorpfor some horrible reason02:37
noglorpalthough my home page is still "http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/" which is funny02:38
sebsebsebdreamy:  there is a command to list your partitions uhmmmm  what was it02:38
dreamysebsebseb: df ?02:38
twolanesebsebseb: fdisk -l02:38
sebsebsebdreamy: well program you install first and then run it02:38
sebsebsebdreamy: pydf  sure02:38
nanotube_8.04 is the ubuntu version. :)02:38
sebsebsebdreamy: and  what twolane will probably work02:38
sebsebsebsaid02:38
disregardthatI'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?02:38
sebsebsebdreamy: I still prefer graphical for partitions,  so  I  would  sudo apt-get install gparted and look there, or   put  kdiskfree on and have a look02:39
dreamyokey.. but im using a live cd02:40
disregardthatdreamy: Gparted should be on the CD.02:40
dreamyif xp erased my partiotions after a failed install id like to be shure02:40
sebsebsebdreamy: ok you got it on by default then  system > administaration > partition editor02:40
zhurai<disregardthat> dreamy: Gparted should be on the CD. <-- it is on the CD02:41
dreamyim going to try to run that.. gpated02:41
disregardthatI'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?02:41
Spirits-SightHow do you trun on Close captioning in VLC02:41
sebsebsebdisregardthat: which version of Ubuntu?02:42
dreamydoes xp has any sort of rule or control agaynst burning the "installation" to a dvd ?  ive been doing that .. :S02:42
dreamy*installation and setup files..02:42
disregardthatHard to say. It's a half-broken upgrade to Jaunty, but since there's nobody helpful on #ubuntu+1, I went here.02:42
sebsebsebdreamy: burning XP to DVD hummmmmm  sounds like you don't have a bought version02:42
sotec_prodOk, I specifically remember just recently having 4gb available in /, and now I have managed to free up 394mb from the full disk. I ran a backup program earlier, but couldn't find the file. Maybe that's what's killing my disk space?02:42
dreamyno not at all :)02:43
disregardthat#ubuntu+1 isn't really a support channel anyways.02:43
sebsebseb!piracy02:43
ubottupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o02:43
dreamyi had to because my dvd only reads dvds.. no cds anymore.02:43
sebsebsebdreamy: well if it's a bought version that you  converted to DVD some how  that would be ok02:43
sebsebsebdreamy: I think02:43
dreamyyes i converted.. using iso recorder..02:44
sebsebsebdreamy: why do you want XP?02:44
dreamyto get the new beta drivers for the radeon mobility m6 ly02:44
dreamytheyr not released tho :S02:44
dreamyyet02:44
sebsebsebdreamy: Windows and Ubuntu have differnet drivers02:44
dreamymy ubuntu driver for the mobility 7000 only gets 300 fps on glxgears02:45
Meshezabeelis there a benefit of getting the 64-bit Ubuntu if I only have 1GB of RAM?02:45
dreamyits a 32 megs 3d02:45
twolanedreamy: is fglrx installed02:46
sebsebsebMeshezabeel: probably not,  need about 4GB RAM for  64bit to be any good, as far as I know02:46
dreamytwolane: probably02:46
sebsebsebMeshezabeel: 4GB RAM or no point bothering with 64bit as far as I know02:46
twolanedreamy: get rid of it.02:46
Meshezabeelthanks sebsebseb02:46
dreamytwolane: id like to check that02:46
sebsebsebdreamy: we can't help you burn a pirate copy of XP here02:46
dreamyof fglrx ?02:46
sotec_prodI get 5,000+ FPS with glxgears on my 8600GT with TT02:46
dreamyget rid of fglrx ?02:47
dreamybut its the original02:47
dreamythe partitiojns where erased indeed02:47
stdruserendoes anyone here know why my synaptic keeps telling me fail fail i tried all servers, i have feisty02:47
sebsebsebdreamy: good well  just put Ubuntu on or do another distro :)  ideally02:47
dreamy:)02:47
sebsebsebdreamy: or have you got a good reason to want XP other than, because of some drivers?02:47
dreamyno02:48
ce;;;;;;;;;02:48
dreamyi got to laps02:48
dreamy2 laps02:48
sebsebsebdreamy:  the other has Windows?02:48
_chunI've added pidgin and amarok to startup applications; is there any way to set them to only open in the system tray, rather than opening their full windows?02:48
dreamywell..02:48
nanotube_stdruseren: feisty is no longer supported. could it be they turned off the feisty repos?02:48
dreamyyes but i hardly use it02:48
ce;02:48
stewart_is there a way i can set the height of window titles in ubuntu?02:48
sebsebsebdreamy: ok well  why not go Ubuntu only on one,  you may find it's a rather nice feeling indeed02:48
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dreamyits realy nice yes !02:49
Rabbitbunnystdruseren: Did you try pinging the servers?02:49
sebsebsebdreamy:   have you had UBuntu on there before?  yes, and this graphics card issue?02:49
stdruserenyes i can even http to them02:49
cepppp02:49
dreamyi use it for somem months02:50
dreamyubuntu02:50
sebsebsebdreamy: which version?02:50
stdruserennanotube_, yes02:50
rwwstdruseren: Feisty repositories were moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com02:50
dreamy8.0402:50
stdruserenits true02:50
sebsebsebdreamy: ok  cool02:50
jimmyjames_hey guyz how come after I installed a theme engine the theme still doesn't see it?02:50
stdruserenI am running on a virtual machine02:50
stdruserennow its working02:50
sebsebsebdreamy: 8.04 and 8.10 have completly differnet versions of xorg by the way.  and  it sounded like you had some graphics card issue02:50
BlackCoffeewhat's the best MSN app for ubuntu?02:50
sebsebseb!best |  BlackCoffee02:51
ubottuBlackCoffee: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:51
RabbitbunnyBlackCoffee: I like pidgin02:51
stdrusereni found an old repository, its still at ubuntu.com they just renamed it to old-releases02:51
BlackCoffeeim tired of emesene,and kopete and kmess won't work properly02:51
BlackCoffeePidgin02:51
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: yeah Pidgin is good, but if you want other features web cam etc,   AMSN, and I think Kmess can do it.02:51
sebsebseb!msn02:51
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete02:51
stdruserenrww, oh just figure that out, thanks any ways.02:51
dreamysebastien: i do .. i wanted to make it run games02:51
sebsebseb!games02:51
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php02:51
stdruserenit really sucks i spent like an hour figuring it out.02:52
BlackCoffeei'll try it02:52
BlackCoffeeamsn is great02:52
dreamysebastien: i think 8.10 wont do well with 256 mermory02:52
sebsebsebdreamy: you can run quite a lot of games in Ubuntu,  native and wine02:52
BlackCoffeebut i can't get it to display properly02:52
sebsebsebdreamy: yeah stay on 8.0402:52
BlackCoffeesame thing with kopete an kmess02:52
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: ok have you trtied Mecury Messenger it's a java app, made by only one guy02:52
sebsebsebclosed source02:52
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: Mercury Messenger that is,  it can be pretty good at times02:53
BlackCoffeeis it on the repo?02:53
Pyles17My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?02:53
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: personally I woudn't use  it for dialy usage, and no not in the repo, but you need Java installed for it02:53
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: it's worth a try though02:53
BlackCoffeewill check it out02:53
dreamysebsebseb: should i have fglrx or not have it ?02:53
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: and if none of them are good enough well, if your computer has enough RAM, you could just  virtual machine  Windows,  and run  WIndows Live Messenger02:53
jimmyjames_ok let me reword it is it worth while setting up these theme engines not in repository and or going to gnome look for themes cuz I could do without02:54
Ienoranddreamy: do you want compiz and/or 3D apps?02:54
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: I think Trillian works quite well under Wine,  that's multi protocall02:54
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: I haven't tried Trillian under Wine, but I think it will work well02:54
BlackCoffeewine?that vm type little app?02:54
dreamyIenorand: no02:54
sebsebseb!wine02:54
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:54
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: no  Wine let's you run  Windows apps in  Desktop Linux.   and  virtual machines let you run actsaul Windows02:55
jimmyjames_GTK+ engines are required on alot of themes at gnome look so I dl some installed and they are still not visible to the corresponding themes02:55
BlackCoffeei c02:55
BlackCoffeei do have wine,never checked it out though02:55
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: Live Messenger wont' work in WIne, or wont' work well02:55
sebsebsebBlackCoffee: it's better to add  http://www.winehq.org Ubuntu's repo, and then get Wine, because then you always get the latest version02:56
dreamysebsebseb: the beta driver is being made by ati , otherwise then the xorg ati driver .. :S02:56
dreamysebsebseb: i think ill have performance with the new driver02:56
sebsebsebdreamy:  Windows graphics card drivers in Ubuntu, wont work,  for help with  Windows  drivers on Windows #windows02:57
dreamyok sorry02:57
sebsebsebdreamy: and  why not go Ubuntu only on one of your lap tops as I was saying02:57
otmnoob question: the 'terminal' in ubuntu is the same in all linux distros isn't it?02:57
sebsebsebotm: no not exactly,  some will call it the shell and some will call it the konsole, and I belive there are about 3 differnet  ones to choose from02:58
dreamysebsebseb: i use ubnutu every day .. i like it02:58
sebsebseb!bash02:58
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:58
otmsebsebseb: are the commands the same?02:58
backzHi, I've this sound card: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA). My sound get delay when I'm installing or compiling some thing. Why? I've tried something like: irqpoll at menu.lst and "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. Same problem.02:58
jimmyjames_has anyone tried jaunty in beta?02:58
dreamysebsebseb: its  a very clever operating system02:58
sebsebsebotm: commands such as cd and lscpci  those will be the same, because they are  Linux/Unix commands.  however commands such as apt-get install and  things are distro specific02:59
otm:O02:59
sebsebsebotm: that was lscpi above02:59
Pyles17My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?02:59
sebsebsebotm: and  Kubuntu is slightly differnet when it comes to installing programs.  ksudo or something instead of sudo02:59
tonyyarussojimmyjames_: Jaunty testing is in #ubuntu+102:59
sebsebsebotm: you can have both in the same install by the way, and Xubuntu03:00
jimmyjames_kk atleast I got a response heh03:00
tonyyarussosebsebseb: theree is gksu for gnome03:00
sebsebsebotm: above   Ubuntu and Kubuntu  have slightly differnet  commands.  gksudo  and  yeah03:00
sebsebsebtonyyarusso: yeah I know03:01
otmsebsebseb: guess i should stick with ubuntu then, i was thinking about giving lots of linux distros a try but it seems that that would just confuse me03:01
sebsebsebotm: depends on the distros you try03:02
otmsebsebseb: well i'm fairly accustomed to ubuntu, i don't really know what doors that opens though03:02
Pyles17My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?03:03
otmsebsebseb: i still consider myself a noob though, i could never install a program manually without looking it up03:03
sebsebsebotm: for the distro specific stuff, well.   when you install  programs in ubuntu you will normalely install debs (Debian Packages) using  sudo apt-get or  aptitude or synaptic.  ,but then there's  RPM (Redhat Package Manager) as well  which is  the file format  for   Redhat based distros.  so  a differnet command on those distros.    this description is not that good, so I will use the bot03:04
sebsebseb!deb03:04
ubottudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.03:04
sebsebseb!rpm03:04
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)03:04
kd5zmchi03:04
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kd5zmchow does this thing work03:05
otm!APT03:05
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:05
tonyyarussokd5zmc: "this thing" being?03:05
kd5zmctonyyarusso ubuntu03:05
kd5zmctrying to get yahoo IM to work with wine03:06
sebsebsebotm: and then when you compile stuff from source  from a tar.gz  yeah those commands are the same,  regardless of the distro.03:06
tonyyarussokd5zmc: uh, what level of detail are you looking for?  It's an operating system.03:06
space_cadetkd5zmc, good luck03:06
tonyyarussokd5zmc: why do you need yahoo's IM client?03:06
sebsebseb!yahoo03:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoo03:06
space_cadetkd5zmc, if you want voice... i have figured some things out..03:06
kd5zmcI like the voice chat03:06
space_cadetkd5zmc, you have to use ekiga03:06
space_cadetkd5zmc, and you have to use gtalk2viop03:07
kd5zmchow03:07
space_cadetkd5zmc, lemmie get a link03:07
Pyles17can anyone help me with the fact that my wireless doesn't work?03:07
Tugleis gtalk in the repositories?03:07
space_cadetkd5zmc, it still needs development03:07
space_cadetTugle, off topic03:07
kd5zmcok03:07
sebsebsebspace_cadet:  you have figured what out? share your knowledge :D03:08
space_cadetkd5zmc, this is how far I have gotten.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109727803:08
space_cadetsebsebseb, ^^03:08
sebsebsebYahoo will also work in Pidgin :)03:08
sebsebsebjust lack certain features03:08
space_cadetsebsebseb, yahoo voice calls from linux03:08
gravityblockTry pidgin for yahoo messenger03:08
kd5zmcok thinks give me a sec to figure things out03:08
space_cadetgravityblock, voice03:08
space_cadetgravityblock, sebsebseb http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109727803:08
dick-richardsonhow can I check the status of my UPS at the command line? The GUI's nice, but I'm writing a script.03:09
ZINGeverybody ready for the april 1st virus?03:09
dreamysebsebseb: do u know why the live cd freezes after it does all the tasks and stop readyg ?03:09
sebsebsebZING: email fool jokes in here, won't go well, I expect03:10
sebsebsebZING: ops might even kick people out for it03:10
_Whipperdreamy: 'cos its so cold ?03:10
sebsebsebZING: April not email03:10
ZINGthe one thats on the news and crap03:10
FlannelZING: This is a place for Ubuntu support.  For general chatting, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.03:11
Pyles17there is a virus, but it is for windows03:11
ZINGthat ms offered a qurt of a mill $ to find the devs03:11
_WhipperZING: old..03:11
* Pupuser402-1 is on linux, so i dont care bout that virus threat03:11
space_cadetanyone else want to help further yahoo voice support on linux?03:11
ZINGhmmm well fine then... be grouchy :P i'll take it to off topic then03:11
sebsebsebspace_cadet: not as such, since I don't like Yahoo much, because.... but that's off topic here03:11
Pyles17so no help with the intel 3945 card not working?03:11
kd5zmcok send the link one more time pease03:12
space_cadetkd5zmc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109727803:12
kd5zmcthanks03:12
sebsebsebspace_cadet: Skype does voice, but   I don't think much else for Linux does sadly :(03:12
ZINGoh yea i do need some support... for some odd reason my firefox doesn't have the window border around it anymore unless i hit f 11 twice... its annoying03:12
ZINGand sometimes if i click on a link in a chat it makes the window border go away again03:12
space_cadetsebsebseb, yah, however converting all your friends to skype just because you have linux?03:12
sebsebsebspace_cadet: how about Google Talk instead?  ,but you would have to run a Windows virtual machine for it03:13
sebsebsebspace_cadet: since sadly Google haven't  ported it to Linux yet, if they ever will03:13
_Whipper!ot03:13
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:13
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_Whipperlol03:13
space_cadetsebsebseb, well if you are going to talk vm.... yahoo works fine inside a vm03:13
ZINGgoogle talk is supported with pidgin03:13
space_cadetzing voice03:13
keith_It seems that the information dd reads from /dev/sda (or wherever) is not kept up to date and seems to be arbitrarily updated after a while. I tried the sync command, but this did not help. Does anyone know how to force the kernel to update what dd sees?03:13
ZINGvoice?03:13
space_cadetzing hence "talk"03:13
sebsebsebspace_cadet:  yeah of course it does03:13
space_cadetlol03:14
ZINGi just use spark to use my voice sorry03:14
sebsebsebspace_cadet: a Windows vm for a voice app dosan't sound to bad03:14
space_cadetsebsebseb, it's just, there should be native linux support for yahoo voice, but yahoo decided to be mean and not provide any specs03:14
IntrepidCan someone tell me what I need to install to configure color schemes for KDE applications running in gnome?03:14
_Whipperi used skype in win & lin.. not much difference there..03:15
sebsebsebspace_cadet: yeah well,  Yahoo may soon become MS as well,  just the CEO they had before said no, but that woman may say yes, if there's another offer.  however that's OT here03:15
space_cadetsebsebseb, the only problem I ran into was back in 8.04 and vbox (cant remember the ver)  there was lag, actually more like clicking between the vm and my sound card03:15
metalforeveranyone here experienced with virtualbox and network03:15
metalforever?03:15
ythe1300VB yeah'03:15
space_cadetsebsebseb, yes it is.03:15
ythe1300what's up?03:15
Svenstarometalforever, yes, whats the problem?03:16
sebsebsebspace_cadet: maybe a vm for yahoo and google talk :D03:16
sebsebsebspace_cadet: then try and convert your freind to gt :d03:16
metalforeverAlright, I am running windows xp under virtualbox in ubuntu03:16
space_cadetlol03:16
metalforeverthe wireless works03:16
sebsebsebspace_cadet: and you can chat to them on pidgin on Ubuntu, when you don't want voice03:16
metalforeverbut the connection is shoddy03:16
metalforeverand it drops03:16
screamWhat is the best backup system for ubuntu with GUI?03:16
space_cadetsebsebseb, yep03:16
metalforevermultiple times, and i end up having to unplug and replug the adapter many times.03:16
sebsebseb!best |  scream03:16
ubottuscream: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:16
Svenstarometalforever, wait, the virtualbox itself iniates a wlan connection?03:16
Flannel!backup | scream03:17
ubottuscream: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning03:17
_Whipperand then you have the little black box, called "phone"03:17
metalforeverwell, i have it set up to use the host connection03:17
Svenstarometalforever, put my name in front of your replies or I wont see you all the time03:17
metalforeversure^.03:17
space_cadetSvenstaro, prolly just using a usb filter to give it to the vbox03:17
scream!sbackup03:18
ubottusbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe03:18
metalforeverAlright, settings in virtualbox are as follows03:18
ythe1300flyback03:18
_Whipper!rsync03:18
ubottursync is a fast remote file copy and synchronization program - For more see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync03:18
space_cadetmetalforever, you should pastebin them03:18
Svenstarometalforever, you dont have a virutalbox problem if its about wireless.03:18
zloogpizza03:18
hustlahey guys03:18
space_cadet!pastebin | metalforever03:18
ubottumetalforever: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)03:18
melikwhats the command to find the IP of my comp03:18
hustlai have display problem03:18
Tophuok I had the nvidia 180.29 drivers installed from the website and I installed made the mistake of turning on the 177 drivers in the "hardware drivers" section no when I boot up "X" won't load :-( can anyone help me undo this?03:18
metalforever<Svenstaro>- cable connected, Intel POR/1000 T Server, Host Interface wlan003:18
ythe1300!flyback03:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flyback03:18
hustlai want my resolution to be 1024x78603:18
_Whippermelik:nvidia?03:18
otmtell me, internet people, what leads to a better career; mechanical engineering or computer science?03:18
hustlaand am not getting that opton03:18
metalforever<Svenstaro>- course it is.  Only have the problem when im using virtualbox03:19
Flannelotm: #ubuntu-offtopic not here, thnks.03:19
metalforevercomputer science03:19
melikwhats _Whipper ?03:19
zloogmelik: ifconfig03:19
TophuI did ctrl+alt+f1 and did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:19
Svenstarometalforever, you should probably scale that card down to intel pro desktop03:19
metalforeverbut it may be obsolete in a few years03:19
ythe1300otm: what do you like to do better?03:19
zloogmelik: or just whatismyip.com if you want wan ip03:19
melikzloog, how about the external IP03:19
metalforever<Svenstaro>- doesnt work then03:19
hustlahelloooo03:19
_Whippermelik: sorry, wrong address :)03:19
kd5zmchi03:19
hustlacan u help me please03:19
sebsebseb!helpme03:19
ubottuAvoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience03:19
melikyeah ifconfig gives my home network IP the 192.168.x.x03:19
Svenstarometalforever, well you need the proper drivers of course, remember, its windows.03:19
melikbut i want the external ip :/03:19
sebsebsebhustla: hi and yes we can help03:20
otmythe1300: never tried either before, but i've always kind of wanted to learn prgramming and learn about computers03:20
sebsebsebhustla: probably03:20
zloogmelik: Need it for a script?03:20
sebsebsebhustla: just ask your question03:20
zloogmelik: because whatismyip.com is easy to remeber if you dont03:20
hustlaam not getting the option for my resolution to be 1024x78603:20
hustlad maximum is 800x60003:20
metalforever<Svenstaro>- I tried using the Windows Xp interface to detect the and use the card, and I installed the drivers with the cd from the adapter, its still a no go.03:20
RotundIn Jaunty, how does a USB connection detection work?03:20
lestercdoes anyone knows if ubuntu-install has any bugs against EFI-based machines? (I have a couple of Mac Pros here which one of them refuse to boot ubuntu)03:20
sebsebsebhustla: did you intall the graphics card driver?03:20
melikyeah i know that; but id prefer a simple command.. :/03:20
ythe1300otm: well I think that you should do more research03:20
Svenstarometalforever, get the drivers manually. It's Windows.03:20
sebsebsebhustla: system > administaration > hardware drivers03:20
meliki dont want to open firefox and open whatsmyip,org everytime03:21
ythe1300they are very different03:21
metalforever<Svenstaro>  , What im saying is, i tried that.03:21
RotundI'm having a problem with attaching a USB soundcard not even throwing a dmesg03:21
sebsebseb!jaunty |  Rotund03:21
ubottuRotund: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.03:21
Svenstaromelik, you can probably netcat to your router and get the IP-03:21
Tophuis there a way to undo the driver install from system > administration > hardware drivers (from the cmd line?)03:21
hustlahold let me check03:21
april_Hi all, I was wondering, if I was to use a backup .IMG file, and I wanted to install its contents in wine, would I need an image mounting program? if so, which is most compatible with WINE?03:21
Rotundsebsebseb, sorry03:21
latitmelik: if you dont have static wont it change?03:21
_Whippergraph-drivers should be auto-inst. when booting from live-cd/dvd..03:21
sebsebsebTophu: maybe, but  if you re boot your computer and go into recovery mode, you can restore X, and bye bye your driver03:21
Svenstarometalforever, I mean, go to intel.com and download the drivers. Unstable connections are caused by bad drivers but not by VMs03:21
otmythe1300: i've done loads, i find them both rather drole, but it's the only decent career path I see myself pursuing without having to take a year out03:21
Pyles17can someone help me with an intel 3945 wireless card that doesn't work?03:21
sebsebseb!wireless03:22
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:22
Tophuhow do I get to recovery mode?03:22
zloogmelik: there is no command for that that doesnt refrnce an internet commputer03:22
metalforeveralright.  will try03:22
metalforeverthanks.03:22
hustlano its not there03:22
melikaww allright03:22
melikill prolly just write a bash script to get it from whatsmyip.org03:22
melikthanks a lot03:22
Huufartedclear03:22
projkt4hi, im having a problem installing nmap-4.85BETA has anyone been able to install it to 8.1003:22
projkt4?03:22
hustla<sebsebseb> no its not there03:22
Pyles17sebsebseb: thanks. but i tried that, it didn't help. the 3945 has problems, but they are all somewhat unique03:22
_Whippermelik: np, thats the way in this # :)03:23
april_How do I go about mounting an ISO in WINE?03:23
zloogmelik:   if you absoulely need it. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-check-you-external-ip-address-from-the-command-line.html03:23
sebsebsebapril_: ask in #winehq03:23
april_ah k, ty03:23
Svenstaroapril_, you don't. You mount it on your system and access in wine.03:23
ythe1300otm: maybe you can take an intro to eng class at a local college, remember that it is not easy and both involve a good deal of math03:23
space_cadetapril_, why do you want to mount an iso in wine?03:23
_Whipperseebseb: dont u have ANY other answers?03:23
ythe1300but they can both be very fun03:23
april_because multi disks install wont work with wine03:23
HuufartedAnybody here ever have an issue with SSH transfer speeds?  Trying to SFTP a file over gigabit and it only moves at 5-6 MB/sec.  When using Samba I push 50 MB/sec.  Any ideas?03:23
sebsebseb_Whipper: what was the issue again?03:23
projkt4after running ./config in the unpackaged folder i get no errors03:23
_Whipper"google or check it out from somewhere else.." :P03:24
keith_How do the files in /dev work? I am having trouble finding out details.03:24
april_multi disc*03:24
space_cadetapril_, aah   ask winehq03:24
otmythe1300: I think I'm past that stage now, i've confirmed my offer at the uni lol03:24
april_ah k, ty very much03:24
otmythe1300: just having doubts03:24
SvenstaroHuufarted, sshfs is for security not high speed. CPU speed is critical for sshfs.03:24
zloogkeith: What kind of information do you need?03:24
Tophuwww.ipchicken.com to get external ip address03:24
projkt4but when i run make i get an error "make[1]: g++: Command not found"03:24
HuufartedSvenstaro, gotcha.  Any recommendations for moving at max bandwidth?03:24
ythe1300otm: anyway you should not put your life in the hands of someone on IRC :)03:24
zloogprojkt: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:24
HuufartedSvenstaro, since it's a LAN, I think I'll just use standard FTP03:24
ythe1300otm: but I have meet a lot of fun peole in the few eng classes I have taken so far.03:25
otmythe1300: you people are good teachers03:25
keith_zloog: Well, it seems that when reading directly from a device driver (eg. /dev/sdc2) the information is not always current with what is shown by nautilus, ls, etc. So I am wondering how these devices actually work.03:25
SvenstaroHuufarted, you could manually adjust the encryption level but honestly, if you're not moving files from russia to japan, it isn't forth using anything else than maybe SFTP or HTTPS.03:25
sebsebseb!ot03:25
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:25
ythe1300otm: and am hving fun in programing.03:25
ythe1300otm: ?03:25
_Whipper!lol03:25
ubottuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.03:25
Flannelythe1300: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic03:25
ythe1300k03:26
_Whipper!otm03:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about otm03:26
Huufartedsvenstaro, that was SFTP.  SFTP is the transfer protocol with SSH03:26
Flannel_Whipper: Please stop that.03:26
projkt4thank you  zloog. i'll try that now03:26
Huufartedsvenstaro, but I have it taken care of using FTP.  :)  50 MB/sec again.03:26
hustlacan anyone give me their xorg file03:26
otm!_Whipper03:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Whipper03:26
sebsebsebhustla: if someone gives you there xorg file, it may have a differnet setting, and so not be any good for your card03:27
_WhipperFlannel: my point was to sebseb.. nev mind..03:27
SvenstaroHuufarted, you are right of course, I hought you were using SCP (which you could try in this case).03:27
matty_bdoes anyone know which vim ubuntu comes with?03:27
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matty_bis it vim-full, or just vim?03:27
hustlayeah but my xorg file is blank03:27
Svenstaromatty_b, vim-tiny03:27
HuufartedSvenstaro, I'll try SCP but I figure the speed will be the same.03:27
Flannelmatty_b: it's vim-tiny, you want to install "vim" to get a real vim.  vim-full includes a GUI (gvim)03:27
keith_I don't like vim-tiny03:27
HuufartedSvenstaro: give me a minute, I'll let you know if there's a speed diff.03:27
matty_balright thanks.03:27
SvenstaroHuufarted, as I said, if security isn't critical, just use samba, nfs, ftp, http, wahtever.03:27
Pupuser402-1get vim-full, uninstall all the other "vim's"03:27
HuufartedSvenstaro, not possible since one's a Winblows machine.  No big deal, it's on a LAN so FTP will work fine.03:28
matty_bon the command line, how might i find out which vims i have installed in order to remove them?03:28
SvenstaroPupuser402-1, no need, they conflict anyway.03:28
Flannelmatty_b: dpkg -l | grep vim03:28
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matty_bmay be a dumb question, but how does running 'vim' run 'vim-tiny'?03:29
HuufartedSvenstaro: SCP is also poor with the transfer speeds.  Again, I'm not worried about it.  Was just hoping to use ssh strictly, but it looks like I'll have to hang onto FTP.03:29
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matty_bit's not aliased, afaik03:29
projkt4zloog; it looks like that did the trick, what was that package?03:29
_Whippermatty_b: not at all dumb q03:29
hustlasomeone please send me the xorg file03:29
Huufartedmatty_b:  'which vim'03:29
hustlai jus wanna try it03:29
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SvenstaroHuufarted, supposedly Intel's most recent Xeon class processors are capable of encryption optimization if you really want sftp :)03:30
Flannel!nickspam > americasmellslik03:30
ubottuamericasmellslik, please see my private message03:30
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HuufartedSvenstaro: lol nah....  Intel Atom CPU works perfectly fine for me as a file server!  ;P03:30
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durthustla, what do need to custom configure?03:30
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hustlai have nothing in my xorg file03:31
matty_bHuufarted: i type 'vim', and it runs vim-tiny, as the package 'vim' isn't installed. i'm wondering how this is done.03:31
Huufartedmatty_b: gotcha.03:31
durthustla, that's normal, what doesn't work?03:31
hustlathe grafix03:31
hustlad resolution03:31
zloogprojkt4: you were missing the c++ compiler. the package is just a bunch of common tools for compiling things from source03:32
Huufartedmatty_b: have you checked the aliases currently in use?03:32
Svenstaromatty_b, /usr/bin/vim-tiny was symlinked to /usr/bin/vim03:32
keith_What happens when someone writes to /dev/null? Where does the input go? Or when someone reads from /dev/random? Where does the output come from?03:32
Huufartedmatty_b: there ya go03:32
durt!resolution | hustla03:32
matty_baha, thanks Svenstaro.03:32
ubottuhustla: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution03:32
proj3ct2501anyone here ever tried to setup remote desktop??  over the internet.  could use some help here, would be most appreciated.  thanks!03:32
zloogkeith: the answer to both questions is nowhere03:32
Flannelkeith_: /dev/null just... goes nowhere.  random and urandom read from the random sources.03:32
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durthustla, the last link03:33
Svenstarokeith_, null makes it disappear in the void of your kernel within one tick and random shows you every tick's gibberish of your kernel.03:33
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sebsebsebproj3ct2501: which computer do you want to conenct to?03:33
tonsofpcsanyone know of a software vision mixer / production switcher?03:33
pyrakhelp with viewing streaming quicktime in firefox?03:33
_law_hi all :)03:33
sebsebseb!multimedia | pyrak03:34
ubottupyrak: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications03:34
projkt4when i run nmap now i get "bash: /usr/bin/nmap: No such file or directory"03:34
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: i have ubuntu setup on my laptop at home, and i travel with an eepc, eeebuntu running.  need to connect to it over the net to access it, etc03:34
Svenstaropyrak, mplayer or vlc or totem mozilla plugin03:34
projkt4i know this has to do with a script, but i cannot remember where that script is03:34
keith_zloog, Flannel, Svenstaro, But what makes it do that? Is it an inherent part of the kernel? Is there programming somewhere that handles that?03:34
sebsebsebproj3ct2501: ok you want to do VNC over SSH03:34
Svenstarokeith_, yes03:34
Flannelkeith_: `man random` gives you some more detail03:34
sebsebseb!vnc | proj3ct250103:34
ubottuproj3ct2501: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:34
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: well, either is fine, just need to get it up and running, ideally secure, lol03:35
matty_bis there any way to list packages that i've installed above and beyond what came with the original install?03:35
abhrahi03:35
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: ok, ill check out that link ^_^03:35
zloogkeith_: Yes to both. Linux uses a monolitic kernel meaning that the drivers all live within the kernel. both of those files are considered devices03:35
sebsebsebproj3ct2501: yeah that link should help, and I know how to do  VNC over SSH :)03:35
chrisriowow, my workmates are assholes03:35
melikzloog, that script didnt work03:36
matty_bi've been keeping a text file with a list of what i install for when i need to reformat, but it's not automatic.03:36
sebsebseb!ot | chrisrio03:36
ubottuchrisrio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!03:36
sebsebseb:D03:36
meliki wrote this instead.. http://omploader.org/vMWdyZA/pasta03:36
Flannelchrisrio: Please mind your language, and keep non-support topics out of the channel, thanks.03:36
_Whipperchrisrio: arent we all..03:36
abhrai've a question.could i ask it here?03:36
Svenstaro!ask | abhra03:36
ubottuabhra: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:36
keith_zloog: is it compiled into the kernel? or would it be some sort of module?03:36
keith_zloog: What if I wanted to create a "device" that was identical in behavior to /dev/null, how would that be done?03:37
hhp2kHey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?03:37
zloogkeith_:  could be either, but I belive both of those are in the vanilla kernel03:37
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: cool, ill give the article a read and see how it fgoes, hopefully i can set it up from that point :)03:37
Svenstarokeith_, get the kernel from kernel.org, look for a device driver file called zero or null and look at it.03:37
asdf_n00bI've got an issue with my MX500 laser keyboard & Mouse combo.  I have to disconnect and reconnect the bluetooth dongle everytime I reboot.  I know it's a known issue cause I've had it before, I just can't remember if there's a quick fix for it03:38
_Whipperasdf_n00b: i remember you03:38
zloogkeith_: Thats the kind of thing you would want a book on http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=linux+device+drivers+3rd+edition&x=0&y=0&sprefix=linux+dev03:38
Svenstarokeith_, there are plently of tutorials for writing kernel device drivers03:38
abhrahow to save the opened channels in xchat while closing it?03:38
hustladurt:03:38
hustlarepeat what u said03:38
hustlawen i typed that thing it jus shut down d pc'03:39
keith_Svenstaro, zloog, I don't specifically want to write a driver, I am just trying to understand how they work. Though a tutorial or book may help accomplish that.03:39
abhrai mean when i reopen it i want to be logged in automatically in the last opened servers03:40
Svenstarokeith_, it's actually simpler than you think.03:40
asdf_n00banyone have an idea? maybe run a command at startup that does the same thing as unplugging/replugging the usb dongle?03:40
monkeybIs there a way I can just download the files needed for an upgrade to jaunty? (i.e. apt-get? I know there is an option, but not sure if that path is supported for ubuntu)03:40
cam-hey guys.. got a little problem in the CLI.. i'm 99.9% sure that ubuntu supports this ethernet chipset out of the box.. but for whatever reason its not setting up a device for it03:41
Flannelmonkeyb: You can, yes.  Jaunty is still a development version, you should ask for details in #ubuntu+103:41
keith_Svenstaro: The question that is actually plaguing me is what happens when I read from /dev/sdc2, for example. Does it read directly from the drive? or is there some indirection or abstraction involved?03:41
matty_balright i've read the dpkg and dpkg-query man pages. is there any way to see what packages i've installed/removed since i first installed ubuntu?03:41
armence1 Hi all, I have this CSV file which when I open with either the spreadsheet program or vim displays the information with no problem, but when I try to open the same file with gEdit I get gibberish, some of it in asian characters... Can anyone help me figure out what is going on?03:42
tonsofpcsarmence1: don't use gedit?03:42
cam-the chipset according to lspci is an AMD 79c970, which is a the virtual chipset under ESXi... i've setup ubuntu under ESX before no problems!!03:42
Svenstarokeith_, well it can't read directly from the drive. I'm not a low-level developer but I know that *how* files are read depends a lot on your file system, the device driver, the kernel.03:42
armence1tonsofpcs: Well, the problem, is that I need to make sure the problem is not actually with the file... Because if it is there is a problem with the program that is generating it03:43
abhramonkeyb press alt+f2 and enter "update-manager -d" (without the quotes)03:43
EtFbI've tried and failed twice now to create a VMWare virtual machine running Xubuntu.  It does the installation, then I restart and it just sits there.  What am I doing wrong?03:43
tonsofpcsarmence1: try a different file?03:43
Svenstarokeith_, you can try directly reading from your drive: sudo cat /dev/sda > ~/gibberish and see what it looks like03:43
SvenstaroEtFb, are you running 64bit by any chance?03:43
keith_Svenstaro: I am doing so with dd, but the information it is reading does not seem to be up to date with recent drive changes.03:43
marcosRzWhy does Evince dont play a gif file?03:44
GeorgeAScotthi. i'm wondering if there's any way to start the postfix config that runs after you apt-get it... my /etc/postfiz/main.cf is empty03:44
EtFbSvenstaro: Host is 32 bit WinXP although I believe this is an AMD64 processor, but everything is 32 bit apart from that.03:44
ganymedemarcosRz, try playing it in firefox03:44
armence1tonsofpcs: That doesn't solve my problem, if a different file works, then it says nothing about the ability of my program to generate that original file...03:44
tech0007im on xubuntu, & I always get "fbsetbg: something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. run 'display ...blah blah from an exterm" this msg never goes away...any suggestion?03:44
marcosRzganymede, I know but I tough evince played :X03:44
SvenstaroEtFb, try enabling / disabling some of the vmware guest extensions like APIC, I know thats a big issue with vmware.03:44
tonsofpcsarmence1: if a different file doesn't work in the viewer, from a different source, the viewer is screwed up03:45
armence1tonsofpcs: Oh, I tried that, the viewer appears to work fine...03:45
epalmubuntu 8.10: i'm using synaptic to uninstall a few items.  these items, when initially installed, also installed extra files they depended on.  what happens to those now?  it's possible that nothing relies on them anymore.  how can i manage this?03:45
matty_bapt-get autoremove, i believe03:45
hhp2kHey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?03:46
Faithmanunsure03:46
quitI'm reluctant to update my ubuntu build :\ I've installed Ubuntu for the third time in my life - And I've been using it for two weeks only. Seemingly, everytime I update it something goes horrible wrong.03:46
matty_bepalm: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'03:47
yoasdf!codecs03:47
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:47
cam-ummm.. what's more interesting is that the kernel module for my ethernet chipset is being loaded according to lsmod.. but still, no ethernet device in /dev! :(03:47
yggdrasilhello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?03:48
EtFbSvenstaro: I can't see any mention of APIC anywhere in the VMWare console.03:48
mistyahi there!03:48
RedMushroomcan anybody give me a crash course on how to use smart boot manager? i thought it was just a lone exe file, but it's turning out to be more complex, and i don't understand03:49
sebsebsebquit: use 8.04  and then you don't really need to upgrade untill the next long term suppourt03:49
cam-anyone know why i wouldnt have a network device ? :/03:49
quitsebsebseb, How do I check what version I'm runing again? :P03:50
tritiumquit: lsb_release -a03:50
axisysmy laptop screen keep going to dim and I use the function key to add light.. it happends when it runs on battery.. how do I disable this behavior?03:50
RedMushroomwhat's DJGPP, and why do i need it to run sbm with dos?03:50
sebsebsebquit: yeah what the op said03:50
alevinewhat's the command that will auto-reguess your xorg.conf?03:51
quitI have 8.10 - Should I downgrade?03:51
theDigitalAngelJava applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?03:51
danbhfivequit: what problems are you having?03:51
EtFbRedMushroom: It's a port of the gnu toolchain to Windows, a bit like Cygwin.03:51
sebsebsebquit: LTS releases aren't exactly a downgrade, because they are LTS.03:51
cam-theDigitalAngel: no proxy? because java apps dont pay attention to the system proxy03:51
EtFbquit: I used Kubuntu 8.10 for a few weeks and downgraded happily when I saw what a disaster KDE4 was.03:51
nadoaxisys, System->Preferences->Power Management03:51
theDigitalAngelcam-: How do I set java specific proxy?03:51
RedMushroomEtFb: what do i do with it once i download it?03:52
sebsebsebquit: ah ha I see03:52
sebsebsebquit: you don't like KDE4 :d03:52
theDigitalAngelcam-: http_proxy wont work I guess in that case ...03:52
sebsebsebquit: 8.04 is the last version that offers both KDE3 and 4 from the repo03:52
cam-right click the java app i think, under there is properties.. all i know is you need to set it in Java it doesnt pay attention to http_proxy03:52
sebsebsebquit: so yes if you want KDE4 put 8.04 on03:52
nadoaxisys, go to On Battery Power and make the changes you want03:52
sebsebsebquit: I meant KDE303:52
cam-same with flash :/03:52
theDigitalAngelcam-: Lemme try that ...03:52
axisysnado: i dont have the On Battery.. only On AC Power and General03:53
sebsebsebquit: and then instead of installing the whole of KDE4  you could just install  some of  the  better KDE4 apps  and use in Gnome/KDE3  in 8.04.  once you got the KDE4 libs on03:53
codeshahhey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?03:53
axisysnado: is it because I am running on battery?03:53
quitdanbhfive: None really, it's just that everytime I upgrade something goes wrong - Once firefox stopped working, today my resolution went down and try as I may I couldnt get it back up - When I restarted it would change at random from a640 to 80003:53
quitThat sort of stuff03:53
sebsebsebquit: 8.04 has another two years of suppourt, so :D03:54
theDigitalAngelcam-: Nothing there. Any way to do that using command line?03:54
axisysnado: hmm.. interesting!03:54
cam-anyone know why i wouldnt have a ethernet device (eth*) in /dev. Kernel module is loaded accorded to lsmod and the chipset is supported03:54
danbhfivequit: yeah, xorg has been a difficult upgrade...03:54
codeshahhey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?03:54
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: hey that looks good.  i will try that whenn i get home, i have to configure it from there.  the only thing is though, it seems a little difficult to setup.  essentially all i need is to have full access to that laptop from anywhere i connecct from03:54
theDigitalAngelcam-: There used to be a nice java control panel03:54
april_does anyone know how i can access a windows computer on my wireless network, i just want to file share ^__^03:54
axisysnado: now after second try it shows up03:54
n8tusercodeshah -> toss a coin03:54
kitchecam-: is it ethernet device?03:54
theDigitalAngelcam-: I forgot the name of the package ...03:54
sebsebsebproj3ct2501: yeah the lap top your connecting to needs an SSH account03:54
nadoaxisys, strange :)03:55
cam-needs to be in the CLI, so no network-manager :(03:55
sebsebsebcodeshah: you can use Ubuntu Desktop and put on the server stuff there03:55
projkt4if i put an executable file in /user/local/bin i should be able to run that executable from anywhere in the system correct?03:55
kitchecam-: well if you do not have a eth0 as ifconfig tells you then the device is not seen or is not supported by linux what card is it?03:55
proj3ct2501sebsebseb: yah, the dynamic thing is messing me up though, i just created an account on dynDNS, i think i can use that03:55
sebsebsebquit:  completly differnet version from 8.04  of xorg in 8.1003:55
codeshahsebsebseb, thanks03:55
april_never mine =] i found it03:55
cam-kitche: it03:56
kitchecam-: ? is that device or something03:56
cam-kitche: its a virtual machine, the kernel module is loaded, but there is no /dev/eth* for it03:56
kitchecam-: what is the virtual machine program your using?03:57
n8tusercam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth003:57
cam-the chipset is supported.. ive installed ubuntu under vmware esx before and its worked fine.. this machine is copied from another esx server03:57
theDigitalAngelJava applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?03:57
projkt4like if i run "ifconfig" from any directory and it works, and i can tab complete that command, how do i add to the list of apps that i can tab-complete/run from anywhere03:57
skate2_is it apt-get remove or apt-get uninstall, to remove software?03:57
kitchecam-: what does ifconfig -a tell you03:57
EtFbRedMushroom: No idea, sorry.  I was just identifying the acronym.  DJGPP is like 15 years old; I'm surprised anyone still bothers with it.03:57
durtskate2_, the first03:57
cam-now its loading the kernel module but its not creating the ethernet device03:57
n8tuserprojkt4 -> look around for a tab_complete script03:57
RedMushroomif i type sbminst -t us -d 0 at the dos prompt, and press enter, what will it do?03:57
cam-*checks*03:57
projkt4i don't neccessarily want to just tab-complete03:58
EtFbBother - how do I boot in recovery mode using a Live CD?  I need to figure out why my Xubuntu installation is b0rked.03:58
cam-ok.. i do appologise its there.. its now named itself eth2.. was there ever a /dev/eth* ? or am i just stupid?03:58
n8tusercam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth*03:58
RedMushroomdo i need to have any other files to use with sbminst.exe?03:59
zloogprojkt4: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/31603:59
cam-hrmm.. maybe im thinking of another distro? i thought there was a /dev for it.. thanks anyway03:59
sebsebsebquit  oh  no wonder I didn't get a reply to my KDE3/4  stuff,  I thought you said  the thing about KDE4 being a disaster, but it was EtFb03:59
ROFLBERRYWelcome to the internets! :D03:59
CertifiedBusdoes anyone have much experience with Synergy?03:59
sebsebsebEtFb: so your running 8.04 with KDE3?04:00
ROFLBERRYYes, we create synergy everyday here on the internets!04:00
durtCertifiedBus, a little04:00
EtFbsebsebseb: Yeah, I used it and hated it.  YMMV of course, but I had no patience for it.04:00
fearfulStupid question but can conficker harm linux?04:00
FlannelROFLBERRY: How can we help you today?04:00
n8tuserCertifiedBus -> my experience sofar, it has not work yet04:00
CertifiedBuslol04:00
CertifiedBusI got it to work04:00
sebsebsebEtFb: what's  YMMV?04:00
n8tuserfearful -> wait for the answer tomorrow04:00
ROFLBERRYI am trying to figure out how I can internet.04:00
CertifiedBusbut it randomly discons the client04:00
matty_byour mileage may vary04:00
fearfuln8tuser, ;)04:00
CertifiedBuswell...04:00
durtfearful, not in the way you think it can04:00
ROFLBERRYI accidentally my whole hard drive. :(04:00
fearfuldurt, explain?04:00
CertifiedBusseems to be when there is inactivity04:00
EtFb!ops04:00
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!04:00
FlannelEtFb: Hmm?04:00
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EtFbNEver mind, he's gone.  Did you do that?04:01
CertifiedBus@durt does the config for whether or not a client must respond stay on the server or client?04:01
durtfearful, it won't execute o a linux box but if it's get's going like people think it will it can ddos anything. And this is ot.04:01
sebsebsebEtFb: yeah he did, but now you told every op to look here :d04:01
kravlinmy network gives me a connected then disconnected not and when i run anything to try to make it work it  tells me that it can't find host (on another computer) can someone help?04:01
tritiumEtFb: who's gone?04:01
fearfuldurt, I see04:02
EtFbsebsebseb: Sorry.  Don't know how else to get an op's attention.  is there a better way (ie less intrusive)?04:02
cam-theDigitalAngel: try  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ControlPanel04:02
durtCertifiedBus, you mean quicksynergy or synergy.conf?04:02
cam-just a guess.. i just did a quick google for you04:02
sebsebsebEtFb: using their name04:02
FlannelEtFb: you can alert us in #ubuntu-ops, yes.04:02
n8tuserprojkt4 -> oh there is /etc/bash_completion script04:02
abhra!seek borderkind04:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about seek borderkind04:02
CertifiedBus@durt I used quicksynergy initially but followed the instructions from SF to get it to boot automatically so I can control the client at login and after04:03
EtFbsebsebseb: The chat program I'm using doesn't seem to show who's an op.04:03
sebsebsebEtFb: I think they hide it04:03
sebsebsebEtFb: sort of04:03
ROFLBERRIESFlannel, you're a rude little cock sucker.  Fuck you and the dildo you rode in on.04:03
Sal--Can anyone help me figure out why I can't connect to my samba server? Here goes my config: http://pastebin.com/dab3fec904:03
n8tuserkravlin -> what have you done to troubleshoot?04:03
durtCertifiedBus, did you configure /etc/synergy.conf. There's ana example in /usr/share/doc/synergy/examples04:03
sebsebsebFlannel: ok don't let that guy in soon again, if he complains in ubuntu-ops04:04
sebsebsebFlannel: that was a pretty nasty one04:04
abhraxhat help needed04:04
EtFbsebsebseb: Clearly there are things I have no idea about with IRC...04:04
sebsebsebEtFb: same here04:04
kravlinn8tuser: well, we isolated it to this laptop through trying different ways, my wireless works but i need wired. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot.04:04
techqber1How can I suspend ubuntu 8.10 from fluxbox?04:05
CertifiedBus@durt stay tuned one sec04:05
sebsebsebEtFb: which client?04:05
EtFbsebsebseb: KVIrc. Sitting here at work on my Windoze box trying to build a Xunbuntu VM...04:05
n8tuserkravlin -> okay, can you describe and elaborate on your network layout? what is connected to what? what devices?04:06
sebsebsebEtFb: not sure about that cient, but  google xchat 2 and that's  meant to be a good one for Windohs04:06
Sal--any help?04:06
sebsebseb!ask04:06
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:06
CertifiedBus@durt hmm, cant find it but I am wondering will it matter if ubuntu is the client04:06
CertifiedBusvista is the server04:06
Sal--sebsebseb, i aked several times04:07
durtCertifiedBus, no just start synergyc with vista's IP.04:07
Sal--asked even04:07
sebsebsebSal--: my bad, I missed it, just saw that, ignore that one then04:07
EtFbsebsebseb: Naah, this is good enough.  I'll just haunt #ubuntu-ops next time a bot comes calling, though with this channel I guess the ops are pretty focused so I don't need to, since they usually notice anyway.04:07
alevinehow can I set up my computer to use the intel driver for my onboard-graphics card?04:07
EtFbNow... what's the command to fix/install grub on a machine that's had it damaged somehow?04:07
kravlinn8tuser: i'm on a school network, called the network tech etc and everything's running fine on their side. i have 3 computers the other 2 have no problems. they're all on a switch. they think it's gotta be something on my side (which is wholly possible.) I've always kinda been wary of networking on ubuntu but my wireless works fine. it's just my wired that doesn't.04:08
sebsebseb!grub04:08
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:08
disappearedngis there a "tab" option in lynx?04:08
CertifiedBus@ durt is there a way to stop the server from auto disconnecting clients? I know there is a config setting but I thought it was off by default04:08
sebsebsebEtFb: so yeah the how to's,  but you can overwrite Grub with a new one04:08
ludditehi all - i upgraded 8.10 this morning and also removed pulse audio. now after reboot i hit the login screen and a dialogue opens that says "Authentication Failed". i hit ok - and it pops up again without giving me a chance to enter my password ever. It looks like its trying to auto-login as the single user is selected. Please helps - its basically bricked the laptop.04:08
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n8tuserkravlin -> okay do this, post in pastebin your    ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf; cat /etc/network/interfaces04:09
durtCertifiedBus, sorry, never used synergy on windows.04:09
CertifiedBus@durt, aha04:09
ZykoticK9disappearedng, i've never seen a "tab" function in any of the test based browsers...04:09
CertifiedBus@durt thanks for the info though04:09
CertifiedBusI mean, it works flawlessly right now04:09
CertifiedBustyping this from my Vista machine04:10
n8tuserluddite -> you have your livecd still? boot from it to recover04:10
kravlinn8tuser: i can't there's no wireless here on campus. they won't let us set up wireless in our dorm rooms. i'm using another computer.04:10
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ludditen8tuser - i can do get into the console easily enough04:10
ludditeso i can fix it there04:10
n8tuserkravlin -> then you have to copy the results, or put it in a usb dongle to transfer over then post04:11
n8tuserluddite -> if you can get into a console, you can log in okay?04:11
EtFbDamn, the installation must be really frakked.  I can't get grub to do anything with that virtual hard disk.04:11
Sal--i'm really in a weird situation cause i can get the mount list locally from smbclient, but when i run smbclient outside the network, i can't seem to get it :(04:12
Ingsocanyone got a mirror for the nmap script to check for conficker?04:12
ForzaPalermohey guys whats the package i have to install in 9.04 to get the opensource ati catalyst drivers?04:12
Ingsocmain sites down04:12
ludditen8user - well yes- but it auto logs the user in. Ive never set auto login up before so dont know why its doing that.04:12
FlannelForzaPalermo: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.04:12
n8tuserIngsoc -> you cant wait for one more day? :P04:12
FlannelIngsoc: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussion, thanks.04:12
n8tuserluddite -> look around in /etc/pam.d   for rules that allow auto login04:13
Sal--cmonnnn someone throw me a bone04:13
ludditen8tuser - ok - will do.04:13
disappearedngAny1 here uses lynx?>04:13
sebsebsebdisappearedng: I have used it04:13
techqber1How can I suspend ubuntu 8.10 from fluxbox?04:14
n8tuserSal-- -> as a minimum, see if you can ping the remote hosts04:14
sebsebsebdisappearedng: it's fun,  but limited in what it can do, since only a text browser, by the way you may want to try links as well04:14
Sal--n8tuser, sure04:14
Sal--i can even see that the port are open as well04:14
Sal--connecting, i can't ;l04:14
Sal--i do have an error in my syslog04:14
Sal--care to take a look?04:14
sebsebsebdisappearedng: something to do with tab and lynx, was your issue?04:14
n8tuserSal-- -> go ahead and post it in pastebin, well see04:14
disappearedngyeah04:14
disappearedngsebsebseb: well is it possible to use tabs?04:15
disappearedngi think it's super fun04:15
zloogtechqber1: sudo echo -n S3 >/sys/power/state should work for shutting down from command line04:15
sebsebsebdisappearedng: since I haven't  used lynx for such a long time,  I can't really help, and don't want to re install it right now, but  wait around and there will probably be someone else04:15
Mr_OrangeWho is ready to ride out Conficker with me? I dare you all to not turn off your computers!04:15
zloogtechqber1: just alias that and bind it to a menu somewhere04:15
disappearedngok thx sebsebseb04:15
n8tuserzloog -> not a good idea without syncing your system first04:15
mib_qoqp6fanyone know where mailutils variables need to be set?04:15
Sal--http://pastebin.com/d956f50a -- errors from syslog;;;;;;;;;;; http://pastebin.com/dab3fec9 ---- config04:16
sebsebsebMr_Orange: I think a better channel to ask that would be in #windows  if any channel here on Freenode, but in this one it is rather off topic, considering that Conflicker does not infect  Linux04:16
zloogn8tuser: what do you mean?04:16
zloogn8tuser: I wouldnt do it with unsaved files open but is there another danger?04:16
IAmWillwith mencoder, how do i rip a DVD raw, I have the disk, and I am setting up a mythTV box, I want no compression, just raw video04:17
Sal--if I run: smbclient -L dolox.com -U%  locally on the same system thats hosting the samba server i get the listing fine no problem, but when i run it on a computer outside the network, such as  my home computer, i get a connection failed04:17
n29Woohoo Ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:17
Sal--well it timesout04:17
n8tuserSal-- -> i took a peek and cant really understand what the error is about04:17
hhp2kHey everyone :) I'm having a particular issue with Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy).  I'm trying to follow this tutorial: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html and while in the "Windows Decorations" Plugin of the Compiz Settings Manager, it asks me to add the line "!title=trans" to the Window Decorations field.  This is supposed to set a rule for a particularly named 04:17
ludditen8tuser : can i rename the gdm-autologin file ? will it kill anything?04:17
steffanmSal-- -> Most likely you have a port or ports blocked04:17
Sal--staffanm04:18
n8tuserzloog -> shutting down a nix* system without sync  is a bad practice04:18
Sal--both ports are open friend04:18
Sal--i've checked04:18
steffanmFor which values of 'both'?04:18
Sal--445 and 139 ?04:18
n8tuserluddite -> it should not, just remember the name04:18
IzinucsWhere is my error restarting cups.. I did sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart and I get command not found.04:18
kevin7kalis there a gnome app that will take a set of flac files and create an iso for burning a music cd?04:18
Sal--any other ideas?04:19
ludditeok - thatnks- trying now04:19
zloogn8tuser: huh, thanks for the tip04:19
steffanmLet me run it here and see what it does...04:19
n8tuserIzinucs -> cupsys  not cups04:19
Sal--http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/04:19
Izinucsn8tuser: ah.. thanks04:19
Sal--plug in the ip & ports04:19
jimisrvroxHey guys I have my router across the house and I have a box in the bedroom that does not get hardly any reception at all and has issues staying connected at all. Seems like the signal is great but once you get online I only get like 2 bars of connectivity. Is there a way that I can make an old box like an access point so that maybe my other pc's can get better reception? Or is there other...04:20
jimisrvrox...things that I can do?04:20
steffanmYou're showing the open ports on the client or the server side?04:20
Sal--server side04:21
steffanmAny firewalling going on on the client side?04:21
ludditen8tuser : i commented out the pam lines and it still tries to autologin with a decreasing timer on retry- but i can still login now. so thats sort of fixed. thatnks04:21
Sal--i've connected to samba shares many times from my home computer04:21
Sal--more than likely not04:21
Sal--can you connect04:21
durtjimisrvrox, depends on what hardware you have04:21
pretenderdoes anybody know how to save a rmtp streaming video04:21
Sal--try to connect smb://ip/sal04:22
Sal--tell me if it prompts you for a pass04:22
Sal--that way we know for sure it's not me client side, even though i'm pretty sure it's not04:22
kevin7kalthe trick is that there are a set of flac files but I have no cd burner, so I want to generate an iso to burn this audio cd and move the iso to another system that actually has access to the cdburner04:22
steffanmI'm pretty sure that //ip won't resolve for me :)04:22
Sal--use hte ip from the pastebin04:23
Sal--of course :l04:23
Sal--stranger thing is i don't see any connection attempts in the syslog04:23
Sal--but that may be normal, i might have to jack up the logging on this04:23
Sal--not sure if i can though04:23
steffanmI just tried and got a logon failure message.  Do you see the attempt?04:24
Sal--nope04:24
Chaorain!btnx04:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about btnx04:25
Sal--i have syslog set to 104:25
Sal--should it be at 5 or something?04:25
mib_wgs2a9why isnt linux so full of security risks, since it open source, wouldnt it be easy to find all the loop holes and crack in?04:25
Chaorainis there a replacement for btnx in 8.10?04:25
Sal--i'm presuming it's supressing errors/connections04:25
PantlessjimI have a question about dual booting and accessing files on my windows 'partition.' Is there anyone who could help? I'd appreciate it.04:25
Sal--cause even if i connect locally, i dont see it logged04:25
steffanmYou control both sides, right?04:26
steffanmDo you have a log.smbd file?04:26
kravlinn8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m211ce34a04:26
Sal--steffanm, yes and yes04:26
mib_wgs2a9Pantlessjim: i currently dual boot04:27
quitHow do I know if I have a 64bit architecture or not?04:27
Sal--steffanm, can i jack up the syslog setting to 504:27
steffanmBetween that & setting a higher debug level you should see *something*04:27
steffanmTry 504:27
Sal--so it will show me more verbose logging?04:27
Sal--yeah thats what im figuring04:27
steffanmIt should04:27
Sal--1 second04:27
PantlessjimAh great. Mind if I pick your brain mib_wgs2a9?04:27
mib_wgs2a9np04:27
jimisrvroxdurt: what do you mean by what hardware?04:27
wanna_learn_morehi,how to install kernel source for my kernel?04:28
n8tuserkravlin -> try this,  sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0  and then do ifconfig  to see if an ip address is assigned to your eth004:28
wanna_learn_more!kernel-soruce04:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kernel-soruce04:28
Sal--ok yeah04:28
Sal--now i see myself connected locally04:28
jimisrvroxdurt: because from what I understand is that you can take an old computer and as long as you have a wireless card to serve as an access point that you can do something to make the box itself like the access point...04:28
Sal--in the syslog, but i dont see my attempt coming from outside to get a mount listing04:28
wanna_learn_morei got it already,thanks04:28
Sal--it's just timing out..... hmmmmmmmm odd :(04:28
mib_wgs2a9Pantlessjim: what do you need help with04:29
PantlessjimWell, I Installed ubuntu 8.10 inside of windows. I don't actually have a dedicated partition for ubuntu. From my understanding, when the computer boots and I choose ubuntu, an image is loaded and I can access the operating system. I was wondering how I can access my windows files through ubuntu. Example, a picture for wallpaper04:29
steffanmI'll try to do a tcpdump here and see what it's doing when trying to connect.04:30
Sal--steffanm , i have it set to syslog only, so if it doesn't show up there it's not in any other logs04:30
Sal--ok im tailing04:30
kravlinn8user : the first command says interface eth0 not configured04:30
steffanmI mean trying a client / server combo on my own system04:30
Sal--[2009/03/31 20:30:23, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_connect(69)    Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost:631 - Connection refused04:30
Sal--i keep getting this, but that's just the print server04:31
ron2010does anybody have problem with bluetooth mouse working with laptop?04:31
ron2010it goes in and out04:31
steffanmDo you have cupsd running? [obvious question, I know]04:31
Sal--no i don't04:32
Sal--i have no need for it04:32
Sal--and the printer stuff is actually commente dout in my config, so no idea why it's even bothering04:32
ron2010it works fine and when it goes to sleep mode or turns off it wont work again04:32
Sal--i really dread having to install SWAT, but if i have no other choice, then i will :(04:33
steffanmWhat works fine and then stops?  SMB?04:33
Sal--huh? i didnt say that ;x04:33
wanna_learn_morehi,can i know whats linux-header??04:33
steffanmOh, sorry04:33
steffanm:)04:33
wanna_learn_morei want to try my luck to configure kernel but at last i want to kno about it04:34
Sal--what a bitch this is04:34
kravlinn8tuser : the first command says interface eth0 not configured04:34
Sal--im thinking maybe its a routing issue04:34
Sal--but the ports are wide open, so that doesnt make sense04:34
n8tuserkravlin -> try to add in your interfaces file these...    auto eth0;  iface eth0 inet dhcp04:35
wanna_learn_morepliz answer my question04:35
ron2010any bluetooth mouse help?04:35
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mib_wgs2a9Pantlessjim: it should be in /host      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68487704:35
steffanmSal--> Have you tried smbclient with -d to get more info out of it?04:36
Pantlessjimmib_wgs2a9: Mate you are a genius. Thanks for digging that up. Couldn't find it for the life of me04:36
Sal--no.. locally?04:36
steffanmNo, remotely - that's where you're having the prob, right?04:36
kravlinn8tuser: where are the interfaces file?04:36
twolaneSal--: type http://localhost:631 in a browser and see what you get04:37
Sal--yeah04:37
Sal--doing it now04:37
kravlinn8tuser: or is rather04:37
kravlinn8tuser: i can type. i swear04:37
n8tuserkravlin /etc/network/interfaces     man interfaces04:37
Sal--twolane, 631 is closed04:37
steffanmwanna-learn-more-> linux-header is typically the package that has the linux kernel header files that are used for compiling the kernel04:37
seb-steffanm: how eliminate the popups that ask "Are you sure?" when you kill an xterm?04:37
timmytherawAny suggestions on a media player w/ a library that isnt SongBird or RhythmBox? (songbird is too slow and RhythmBox crashes too much)04:37
EtFbWhat's "ubiquity"?  Should I be worried that it crashed while I was installing Xubuntu?04:38
mib_wgs2a9is there a way to embed ubuntu onto a webpage where it is a real OS on a machine but it just streams images to the site and ppl can interact with it, or just have a ts client on the page?04:38
seb-timmytheraw: esperanza (xmms2)04:38
steffanmseb-> I haven't seen that particular popup.  Is it actual 'xterm', or gnome-terminal?04:38
timmytherawthanks seb04:38
twolaneSal--: cupsys isn't running most likely. look for port 631 in netstat -tunap04:38
Sal--steffanm , just a timeout04:38
mib_wgs2a9EtFb: i believe that is the ubuntu installer, not sure though04:38
seb-steffanm: gnome-terminal04:38
Sal--twolane, i'm not running cupsys04:38
twolaneSal--: woops, sorry.04:38
seb-steffanm: i'm running the jaunty beta and it came up04:39
Sal--there will be no printing at all via smb04:39
Sal--so i don't need it :l04:39
EtFbmib_wgs2a9: Terrific.  That would explain why I can't boot.  Bugger this for a game of soldiers; I'm installing Kubuntu 8.04.  At least I know it works.  Xubuntu seems to be maintained by monkeys.04:39
steffanmseb-> Probably under edit..Profiles there may be a setting for disabling that04:39
cool^tomHi04:39
wanna_learn_moreand can i ask u when ubuntu 9.10 will be there?04:39
steffanmSal -> Any luck w/ running smbclient -d ?04:39
seb-steffanm: are gnome-terms that much better? maybe i can just run just xterms04:40
Sal--steffanm , just a timeout04:40
Sal--timeout on 445 and 13904:40
steffanmSal-> Do you have nmap?04:40
Sal--i also got: ould not test socket option TCP_NODELAY.04:40
Sal--Could*04:40
Sal--steffanm, no why?04:40
EtFbwanna_learn_more: The version numbers for Ubuntu are dates: 8.04 came out in 2008/04 (ie April); 9.10 will be October 2009.04:41
kravlinn8tuser: ok.  now it sits there for a while before disconnecting me.04:41
steffanmSal-- > You might want to run nmap on the server from the client and see what it reports as ports open.  How are you determining now which ports are open?04:41
Sal--http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/04:41
n8tuserkravlin -> try this,  sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0  and then do ifconfig  to see if an ip address is assigned to your eth004:41
steffanmseb -> gnome-terminal has more features, i.e., Tabs, but is a heavier weight client.  xterms are small and a little faster, but probably won't make much difference on modern hw04:42
yggdrasili guesse i should adjust the clipboard04:42
yggdrasilhello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?04:42
AaronMTwoot irssi 0.8.1304:42
steffanmSince you'd be running nmap on the client, it could help you determine whether the end-to-end path is okay04:42
Sal--im really thinking either04:42
Sal--well i think something in the log04:42
Sal--is telling it... local only04:42
Sal--or inside hte network only04:43
steffanmOn the server?04:43
kravlinn8tuser: still getting the same error. that it's not configured04:43
Sal--yes04:43
Sal--did you look @ my config steffanm ?04:44
steffanmIs it possible the client could be the problem, though?04:44
steffanmI didn't see your config04:44
steffanmDid you past it?04:44
Sal--i pasted it above04:44
steffanmpaste04:44
n8tuserkravlin -> post your /etc/network/interfaces again after you added what i suggested?04:44
Sal--yeah04:44
steffanmjust a sec04:44
FloodBot1steffanm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:44
Sal--http://pastebin.com/dab3fec904:44
steffanmthx04:44
Sal--ps: i've commented printing and printcap name04:45
Sal--and syslog is 504:45
steffanmYour config looks fine at first glance04:45
cj__my window list will not restore to the current workspace...and it's driving me insane with every involuntary revolution04:45
steffanmPlus you're able to run smbclient locally04:45
cj__halp04:45
steffanmSo I don't think it's a config prob on the server04:46
Sal--correct04:46
Sal--well04:46
Sal--2 reasonably more than likely answers04:46
Sal--1 somewhere along the line routing is screwed up....... 2 something in the config isn't saying hey... let ppl outside this local net access me04:46
Sal--im thinking #204:46
steffanmafaik there's no setting in the smb.conf that will restrict to local net04:46
steffanmYou using iptables anywhere?04:47
Sal--nope :l04:47
steffanm(on the client, most likely)04:47
steffanmI still think that's where the problem lies.04:47
kravlinn8user: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a04:47
steffanmSo are you even getting a password prompt from your client?04:47
steffanmOr getting a logon failure message?04:47
Sal--neither04:47
Sal--just a timeout04:47
Sal--i'm not even seeing the connect attempt via syslog04:47
steffanmI actually received a logon failure message from _here_04:48
steffanmIf you're not getting that, then you have a client connectivity issue04:48
PhotoJimsteffanm: interfaces=xxx will restrict it to one interface, if you have dual NICs.  I have mine ignoring all connections from the WAN IP.04:48
Sal--yeah04:48
steffanmThanks, PhotoJim - I forgot about the actual *interface*... :/04:48
Sal--but you tried yourself04:48
Sal--and i dont see your attempt either04:48
Sal--mind trying again ?04:48
PhotoJimsteffanm: still best to firewall though. :)04:48
FloodBot1Sal--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:48
steffanmSure...04:48
Sal--wait...04:49
steffanmJust tried, got a logon failure04:49
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Sal--timeout ?04:49
steffanmNope.  It's actually negotiating w/ the server04:49
steffanmNaturally I don't have a password.  You could post one here ;)04:50
techqber1zloog: nice thanks so much.04:50
steffanmI ran it with -d 504:50
steffanmIt does show the neg. steps04:50
theobromahey there, a friend of mine downloaded and burned the Server edition (I think its 8.04). however, he needs the desktop install. I remember in some earlier version that a parameter could be passed to the server install to have it actually install a desktop. I've been looking for the equivalent option for this release8.x server disc but I cant find it. Does anyone know if this 8.x server releases supports an optio04:50
seppioh snap. An unbuntu server? Wicked04:50
itai_michaelsonhi, i'm watching a flash on nasa.gov and was wondering where is the tmp dir that firefox saves the flash file in ? i looked in /tmp and also in firefox/cache but its not there04:50
Sal--weird it looks like you tried to connect04:50
steffanmIf you're not getting that from your client, then the client is blocking the conx04:50
kplusCan anyone tell me how to get my USB speakers working?04:50
steffanmSal-- ->  Well, _yeah_ :/04:51
Sal--dont see your ip04:51
Sal--but got a bunch of those log msgs a second ago which i havent seen before04:51
steffanmI think I tried 3 times04:51
itai_michaelsontheobroma, i think it asks you if you want a gui, cant remember-anyway u can apt-get ubuntu-desktop04:51
Sal--steffanm tell me the full command your trying04:51
steffanmsmbclient -L 216.75.63.125 -d 504:51
Sal--i got that message about 20 times, within 10 seconds04:51
IzinucsWhat's the difference between using socket://<ip_address> and ipp://<ip_address> for a networked printer?04:51
kravlinn8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a04:52
simonhow do I turn off brightness auto-adjustment?04:52
Sal--mind trying again04:52
Sal--just to make sure that wasnt a fluke, cause i just tried reconnecting, i see nothing in my syslog04:53
steffanmJust tried04:53
simonin battery mode it goes darker and darker until I can't see the text. pressing fn+'brightness up' takes a long time to respond, and then it goes darker afterwards anyway.04:53
Sal--nah, nothing04:53
steffanmTry smbclient -L <ip addr> -d 5 and paste04:54
steffanmActually, -d 404:54
Sal--1 sec04:54
Sal--steffanm: http://pastebin.com/m46794f6904:57
steffanmYou're definitely getting your connection blocked04:57
ZykoticK9Do bogomips reported in /proc/cpuinfo take into account dual core processors?  If I compare my system and AMD 64X2 3209MHz to that of a Celeron 398MHz there is an approximate 8X difference, but there are two cores running at that speed.  The bogomips of the AMD are 6419.57 vs Celeron at 796 bogomips also a 8X difference, shouldn't this actually be a 16X difference?04:58
steffanmSal-- ->What OS are you running on the client?04:58
ryaxnbi've been playing with tasklists in gnome04:58
Sal--Mac OS X04:58
ryaxnbZykoticK9: bogomips are utterly useless anyway04:58
ryaxnbmight as well call them bogusmips04:59
Sal--staffanm btw thanks for helping me in this edge case scenario :(04:59
RussM_ZykoticK9, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomip            they're really just for figuring out an internal timing loop04:59
ZykoticK9ryanakca, ya "how fast can you do nothing" it's a funny but I think useful measurement (I know it's not to be taken too seriously)04:59
steffanmNo problem.  We'll figure it out04:59
steffanmSal-- -> Just for fun, try this:  nmap -sT localhost -p 445,13905:00
ShoopufHello, I downloaded the Hosts file from mvps.org to block unwanted Web stuff. I don't know how to install it in Ubuntu 8.10 though... I see a hosts file, a hosts.deny file, and a hosts.allow file. Which should I edit?05:00
steffanmActually, replace <localhost> with the IP of the server05:00
steffanmRun it from the client05:00
Sal--don't have it locally :l05:00
kravlinn8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a This help much? sorry. i'm still learning linux through trial and error so any help is useful.05:01
Sal--staffanm, did you just try to connect again05:01
steffanmSal-- -> How about telnet <ip>  44505:01
steffanmNo, I didn't try to connect05:01
Sal--check msgs05:01
Sal--i get that repeated a bunch of times outo f nowhere05:01
steffanmIs that on your server or the client?05:02
Sal--server, in my syslog05:02
Sal--ok now i tried the telnet command and i get a new message in syslog05:02
Sal--on the client side, it's just stuck at trying ip.....05:03
steffanmSo, running on the server you get the message, running on the client you get stuck?05:03
frybyeHI with efax-gtk - where can I find the sent faxes in the file system to use a different appl to view them than the built-in one?05:03
Sal--yes05:04
Sal--well wait05:04
Sal--is that your ip05:04
Sal--that i pated to you?05:04
steffanmNope, mind is on the 216 class A also05:04
Sal--err that i pasted to you*? cause it's not mines05:04
ron2010fixed my bluetooth mouse.  i have to delete the mouse in bluetooth manager and added it back again... this is nusauce05:04
steffanmThe 70.x.x.x?05:04
steffanmNot me05:04
ron2010is there permenant fix to this?05:04
Sal--not me either, wtf is it?05:04
ludditen8tuser - i corrected it via timed-login option. so now it is back to normal - weird about that however. Thankyou so much05:05
Sal--i'm 69.x.x.x05:05
frybyeor going at the problem from different angle - what format are the sent faxes in efax-gtk saved in??05:05
steffanmWell, being that your server is on the net, it's probably constantly getting scanned by random malware05:05
tuxFanhow many of you run antivirus software  in linux?05:05
cjalmeidabrwhy would i?05:06
Sal--possibly05:06
Sal--anyway i'm baffled05:06
tuxFanso why there is a lot of antivirus software for linux?05:06
cjalmeidabrserver side scanning05:06
fabiohi guys05:07
steffanmSal-- -> So how does your client machine connect to the internet?05:07
cjalmeidabryou can setup your linux as a cache or mail server05:07
kravlintuxFan: so if you're using a linux box as a webserver or a filesever you don't share viri?05:07
Sal--throw a router05:07
cjalmeidabrthen have it scan the data prior to getting to clients05:07
tuxFannah desktop user05:07
Sal--through* even..... i don't see that this would be an issue, seeing as you cannot connect either :(05:07
cjalmeidabrtuxFan: no need05:08
fabioi'm from brazil and i am developing an ldap improvement with gconf-editor05:08
kravlinn8tuser: You still there?05:08
fabioany sugestions05:08
fabio?05:08
steffanmOn the contrary, I think I can connect.  In fact, I can get all the way to the login point05:08
tuxFanok thx , krystal clear05:08
cjalmeidabrfabio: ldap and gconf? why?05:08
steffanmIs your machine Cable, DSL, FiOS?05:08
steffanmWhat kind of router?05:08
Sal--Airport Extreme, Apple05:09
fabiolow cost alternative to activve directory and group policy05:09
kplusDoes anyone know of a way to reset the audio settings in ubuntu to a "factory default" type setting?05:09
Sal--i dont even see you in the logs, which scares me05:09
steffanmOkay.  That may explain it... I don't have one here to test with, though05:09
Sal--if it was just me, then i'd know i'm the problem05:09
Sal--but i've mounted samba shares recently05:10
frybyehow to define a printer to work with lpr ??05:10
Sal--so i'm arguing that as out of the answer :(05:10
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steffanmDid you mount the samba shares from the client?05:10
Sal--this computer i'm talking to you on, yes05:10
steffanmAnd it doesn't work now05:10
Sal--not on this server we're trying, but other servers05:10
* kravlin seems to have lost his help.... damn. 05:10
alevineanybody have an intel 4500 graphics chipset working with the intel driver?05:10
Sal--and it does work05:10
frybyeefax-gtk says it will print sent faxes with lpr but when trying to do this it says no target defind for lpr??05:10
Sal--do you have a share05:10
steffanmSo it works on other servers, but it hasn't worked on the computer you're on now, correct?05:10
Sal--that i can do a test mount on?05:10
techqber1zloog: I get a permission denied even with sudo.  Hrm.05:11
Sal--this computer, i've mounted shares locally05:11
Sal--never externally tried to be honest05:11
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steffanmWhat OS is on the computer you're on?05:12
kravlintrying to get my network working, whenever i run ifdown on eth0 it tells me the interface isn't configured and it won't connect to the wired network. help?05:12
Sal--steffanm: Mac OS X05:12
steffanmOooohhh....05:12
illmortalizeanyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?05:12
steffanmWell...That may explain it...05:12
Sal--Mac OS X (client).... server Ubuntu05:13
steffanmI had problems myself with that on my local network05:13
steffanmOSX -> a samba server05:13
steffanmJust a sec...05:13
PhotoJimOS X connects great to Linux networking.  NFS is native to both.  the only issue is uids.  you have to renumber them on the Mac to make them match what is on your server, to keep file permissions sensible.05:13
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steffanmPhotoJim -> It does connect great...eventually :)05:16
steffanmSal-- ->  Go to your System Preferences...Security05:16
Sal--ok05:16
steffanmTake a look at your firewall settings, possibly enable firewall logging05:16
PhotoJimsteffanm: my wife's Macbook connects to my Ubuntu server quickly.  I just have the mount points in /etc/fstab like you would on a Linux box.05:16
steffanmTake a look at the firewall logs - you'll probably see that it is blocking smb connections05:16
steffanmPhotoJim:  I had a problem with the firewall blocking my connection initially05:17
steffanmIIRC, anyway.05:17
steffanmI made a setting change and it worked.05:17
kingkarohi i need a million dollars05:17
steffanmMay have been server vs. client, though05:17
PhotoJimsteffanm: ahh.  my firewall doesn't block connections on my LAN subnet.  I figure between having lockable doors and WPA, my network is secure enough :)05:17
steffanmPhotoJim: Make sure you have lockable windows, too.  (And Windows)05:18
PhotoJimIf someone wants to go to that much work, they can copy my MP3s all they want, I figure :)05:19
User3719this is my first IRC experience...just testing05:19
User3719how do i get a custom username?05:19
PhotoJim... /nick NewName05:19
User3719thanks05:19
Sal--steffanm it worked for you?05:19
Sal--i'm not seeing it in my logs05:20
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kravlintrying to get my network working, whenever i run ifdown on eth0 it tells me the interface isn't configured and it won't connect to the wired network. help? (i hate spamming but i'm not sure what else to do)05:20
steffanmkingkaro:  Invest $5 at 5% annually and wait for 253 years05:20
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karthikhi05:20
kingkaroI need a million dollars or they kill me05:20
elros_azothihey karthik05:21
iterpaypal?05:21
karthikhey elros_azothi05:21
yowshi1i need help reinstalling a graphics driver. when i do sudo init 3 do i do it from tty1? or do i do it from any console in the screen i am on now?05:21
steffanmSal -> I just pasted the output from -d 405:21
n8tuserkravlin -> did you paste yet the /etc/network/interfaces file after the added lines?05:22
kravlinn8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a05:22
n8tuserkravlin can you also post the results of   sudo lshw -C network and ifconfig again05:23
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dhanveerhey guys i need help05:25
dhanveerhow to mount my dynamic and ntfs hard drives on ubuntu05:25
dhanveer?05:25
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jmpsomeone can help me05:26
jmpI cant' connect to locamhost using SSH05:26
cjprojmp: Do you have openssh server installed?05:27
jmpyeah05:27
dhanveerguys answer me05:27
jmpI've already install it05:27
cjproAre you connecting to locemhost or localhost?05:28
cjpro*locamhost05:28
jmplocalhost05:28
jmpsorry05:28
kravlinn8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m21abc1f905:29
SandGorgonguys.. I want to have an IRC channel inside my office with certain channels as password protected... a channel for SVN commit logs, etc. - is there any IRC server that you guys recommend ?05:29
cjproAye, it's been a while since I've booted to Ubuntu, but jmp: Try running /etc/init.d/opensshd restart05:29
cjproSomeone correct me if I used the wrong name of the script.05:30
jmpthe message error is : connect to host "my IP" port 22 : connection failed05:30
cjprojmp: netstat -tuan.05:30
PhotoJimSandGorgon: we use ircd-ircu on our local IRC network. I've not tried any of the alternatives.05:30
jmpcjpro ok I'm trying it05:30
cjpro*netstat -tuan05:30
n8tuserkravlin ->  and what is the error you get when you do sudo ifup eth0  ?05:30
cjproCheck to see if :22 is open.05:30
SandGorgonPhotoJim: what do you guys use ur irc network for ?05:31
lstarnesSandGorgon: practically every ircd supports using '/mode #channel +k password'05:31
SandGorgonlstarnes: all right... I was looking at InspireIRCd cos it has integration with LDAP as well05:32
PhotoJimSandGorgon: social use.  we have maybe 30 or 40 people on it, on half a dozen channels.05:32
SandGorgonallright05:32
PhotoJimSandGorgon: ircd-ircu supports the password feature lstarnes mentioned.05:32
kravlinn8tuser: unknown hardware address type 801 then it listens then runs DHCP discover, and then doesn't get anything.05:32
PhotoJimSandGorgon: it's the IRC software the Undernet network uses.05:33
lstarnesSandGorgon: I would also recommend using atheme as the services package in addition to an ircd like inspircd or ircu.  atheme has some ldap support in its development branch05:33
SandGorgonPhotoJim: thanks.. I'll take a look at that05:33
jmphow , I do to know if 22 is open05:33
SandGorgonlstarnes: checking it out..05:33
jmpcause it's print before "Active connections server established"05:34
rampageaiDoes anyone know anything about problems with missing pygtk module in Jaunty beta?05:35
n8tuserkravlin am curious can you tell me what files are listed in  /sys/class/net05:35
Maximo-man im under windows cause ubuntu wont work anything :(05:35
elros_azothi1what do you mean Maximo?05:35
Maximo-ehm05:35
Maximo-at start-up I get that tomboy not editing app error message05:35
elros_azothi1ah05:36
n8tuserjmp -> netstat -a  |grep 2205:36
kravlinn8tuser: eth0, lo, pan0, wlan0, wmaster005:36
elros_azothi1lol i wish i could help u but im pretty nooby with linux05:36
PhotoJimnight05:36
Maximo-that actually ask me if i wanna keep it like this or if Id rather kill it from my configuration05:36
elros_azothi1odd05:36
Maximo-then, pidgin crashes when i log in to msn05:36
elros_azothi1well im running it on my EEEPC05:36
elros_azothi1works fine05:37
Maximo-and wine wont work either, wine applications will run minimized , not to say, invisible, to desktop but still running when i actually check the running process05:37
n8tuserkravlin -> it looks like your e1000e driver is not working,  dont know if gigabit is supported in ubuntu, you may have to find the driver for you intel card05:37
elros_azothiheh05:37
shankarjmp try netstat -n -p05:37
elros_azothiand people say that Linux is ready for the desktop05:37
elros_azothiits close...but still so far05:37
fostotWas hoping I could possibly get a bit of assistance, i'm getting a GRUB Error 17 when I boot... however when i stick my ubuntu disc in and tell it to boot from the first hard disk, it works just fine. Any websites I can check / read up on for assistance?05:37
MBDLok i have ubuntu installed inside windows... now is posible to open the windows drive?05:38
MBDLinside of ubuntu of course05:38
sebsebsebMBDL: did you use Virtualbox?05:38
kravlinn8tuser: how would i do that?05:38
MBDLno05:38
MBDLits like dual booting05:38
sebsebsebMBDL: you done wubi you mean?05:39
illmortalizeanyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?05:39
MBDLits an option when u insert the disk inside windows05:39
MBDLyes!05:39
sebsebsebMBDL: yep wubi05:39
MBDLsebsebseb:yes wubi05:39
loveissuicidedoes anyone knows what happens with my local installations (i.e. those that I installed manually) if I upgrade my ubuntu? Do they dissapear?05:39
n8tuserkravlin -> try to google for ubuntu + gigabit and see what shows up,  i know ubuntu supports 100Meg but not sure about gigabit05:39
jmpMBDL inside windows , what do you means by05:39
sebsebsebMBDL: I think there is a /host folder on there some where, which is your  Windows05:39
sebsebsebMBDL: Wubi is only good for trying05:39
sebsebsebMBDL: quite a few draw backs with it as well05:40
MBDLsebsebseb: ok found that folder05:40
MBDLsebsebseb: and its there05:40
Omniorbhi05:41
sebsebsebMBDL: if  your  NTFS partition goes bad,  a virus or whatever,  that will effect wubi/ubuntu as well.  also  if  you haven't  defragged Windows, wubi can be rather slow, and there are other reasons.  one of  the Ubuntu ops in particular woudn't recommend wubi by the way05:41
slushpuppehHi, I get a nice static/radio-like sound during startup, how would I go about debugging that o.O?05:41
MBDLsebsebseb: the only reason i did use it was because my hp laptop would stop the ubuntu disk from booting05:41
sebsebsebMBDL: plus I belive there are a few other reasons why Wubi isn't good, but I am not entirely sure about them05:41
jmpunix 22 [] STREAM  connected 34103 /tmp/ .X11/Unix/X005:42
sebsebsebMBDL: bad CD?05:42
kravlinn8tuser: looks like it supports it. i had to reinstall network manager which could have totally messed this up. not sure how to fix...05:42
MBDLsebsebseb: mine isnt a supported model.. and thats what i thought... but i googled and it was my graphic card...05:42
sebsebsebMBDL: the CD should work, as long as the ISO you burnt from was good which can be checked, and the CD was burnt slow enough05:42
sebsebseb!md5sum05:42
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more05:42
MBDLand i tryed nogui and all the other commands and it would get goto a black screen instead of the ubuntu desktop05:43
i_need_moneythanks for your help05:43
n8tuserwhoa  this is new to me, running a vmware in bridge mode, I am able to acquire a second ip address from same dhcp as my host gets it from.. and it does not even show up in ifconfig05:43
MBDLsebsebseb: they were org ubuntu disks05:43
sebsebsebi_need_money: who's help?05:43
n8tuserkravlin -> try  wicd to replace nm05:43
loveissuicidedoes anyone knows what happens with my local installations (i.e. those that I installed manually) if I upgrade my ubuntu? Do they dissapear?05:43
sebsebsebMBDL: org ubuntu disks???05:43
MBDLsebsebseb: i tryed downloading them 2 same thing05:43
MBDLsebsebseb: the ones you order through ubuntu.com05:43
aranyikhello05:44
MBDLsebsebseb: origonal05:44
sebsebsebMBDL: ok you got sent offical  cd's and they didn't work?05:44
MBDLsebsebseb: nope05:44
MBDLits my laptop05:44
jmploveissuicide , sometime yes05:44
MBDLsebsebseb: it my laptop not supported05:44
sebsebsebMBDL: tell me about your lap top. how old?  how much RAM? etc05:44
loveissuicidejmp: ok, thank you05:44
MindVirusWhere can I go to get help with my iPod?05:45
sebsebsebMindVirus: standard ipod?  what do you want to do?  sync it?05:45
MindVirusNo.05:45
sebsebsebMBDL: your lap top may be suppourted it's just you had a bad CD05:45
MBDLsebsebseb: well its an hp dv6404ca, with a upgraded ram of 2 gb and 150 gb harddrive.. nvidia go graphics05:45
jmpson next time store them on an external disk05:45
MindVirusI want to put videos on it.05:45
MindVirusI have the 4G Nano.05:45
sebsebsebMBDL: if wubi works, the CD should also work05:45
MindVirusAnd gtkpod doesn't support my iPod yet.05:46
MindVirusSo I use Hipo.05:46
MindVirusBut Hipo doesn't support video.05:46
sebsebsebMindVirus: what's Hipo???05:46
aranyikhello everyone, im still trying to ping through my ubuntu router and im able to ping every NIC of it from my laptop but i cant ping the other side. I have activated ip_foward and configured routes.  Any clues?05:46
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MBDLsebsebseb: think there nvidia go 615005:46
MindVirussebsebseb, a GNOME iPod management utility.05:46
sebsebsebMindVirus: yeah, because of Apple,  Desktop Linux does not have great  iPod suppourt05:46
MindVirusI know.05:46
Guest65673hi. When using an nvidia card, What video driver does ubuntu use by default when using the liveCD?05:46
MBDLsebsebseb: broadcom wireless drivers05:46
Guest65673nv?05:46
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rampageaiMindVirus: I use rhythmbox for basic music functionality.05:46
sebsebsebMBDL: if  wubi works,  a CD should work05:47
MindVirusNo...05:47
MindVirusI need to put stuff on my iPod.05:47
MindVirusNot listen to stuff on it.05:47
MindVirusWhich I can do already.05:47
FloodBot1MindVirus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:47
jmpit's always not possible to connect to localhost ussing SSH05:47
sebsebsebMindVirus: how much RAM do you have?  and do you have a Windows CD?05:47
MindVirusThat's cute.05:47
MBDLsebsebseb: thats what i thought... but the live cd freezes right when the desktops supposed to load05:47
sebsebsebMindVirus: you can run Windows inside Ubuntu, for your ipod stuff, if nessarey05:47
macmanhey i want to transfer 177gigs from 1 external to another external .. what is faster mv or rsync ? or what is faster then both of them ?05:47
MBDLsebsebseb: its a known issue with my laptop iv found with searching with google...\05:47
MindVirussebsebseb, no chance.05:48
MBDLever since then i used wubi05:48
sebsebsebMindVirus: no why not?05:48
MBDLsebsebseb: i dont know it the beta works now or not... because i just did an upgrade05:48
MindVirusI wouldn't touch Windows on this computer with someone else's flagpole.05:48
jmpmacman mv I think05:48
sebsebsebMindVirus: lol05:48
MBDLsebsebseb: i got myself stuck in a tree wondering the same05:48
MBDLsebsebseb: why wont it work05:49
sebsebsebMBDL: why won't what work?05:49
steffanmmacman:  rsync can run in restartable mode which can help if you drop your connection05:49
MindVirussebsebseb, :(05:49
MindVirusAny other suggestions?05:49
steffanmif you can mount the filesystem, mv05:49
MBDLsebsebseb: i was able to upgrade from 7.1005:49
sebsebsebMindVirus: sure, but a peice of hardware that does what you want, and works nicely with Linux05:49
sebsebsebMindVirus: buy not but05:49
MindVirusThat's what I did.05:50
MBDLbut havent tryed yet burning the beta to disk and installing05:50
MindVirusMy 2nd generation Nano worked perfectly.05:50
sebsebsebMBDL: don't do 9.04 yet05:50
MindVirusI'm going to try to use Banshee.05:50
sebsebsebMindVirus: yep Banshee :)05:50
loveissuicidedoes anyone knows how to configure a xbox 360 wireless controller in intrepid, I know that there is a guide for a previous version of ubuntu but for intrepid doesn't work05:50
MBDLsebsebseb: already have... i dont mine the drawbacks from using a beta05:50
rampageaiMBDL: I'm in here because 9.04 broke rhythmbox and totem for me :(05:50
sebsebsebMindVirus: I  was going to recommend Banshee, or did I hum05:50
MBDLsebsebseb: lolz it broke alot for me05:51
lifulinghan  你们好呀05:51
sebsebsebMBDL: well there's no wubi for 9.04 yet I think05:51
sebsebsebMBDL: how did you do 9.04?05:51
MBDLsebsebseb: turned out it was xulrunner and soemthing else that fudged up05:51
MBDLsebsebseb: upgraded from 7.10 through the update manager05:52
MBDLsebsebseb: worked like a charm05:52
sebsebsebMBDL: oh you mean your on 8.04 not 9.0405:52
jmpit's always impossible to connect to localhost using SSH05:52
MBDLsebsebseb: other then it broke everything running on QT.. but i reinstalled qt and i waas fine for those... then google earth i had to fix xulrunner05:52
jmpsomeone can help me ?05:52
MBDLsebsebseb: yes yes05:53
sebsebsebMBDL: so  everything  works now?05:53
MBDLsebsebseb: thats what i mean05:53
MBDLsebsebseb: EVERYTHING05:53
kravlinn8tuser: wicd to replace nm?05:53
rampageaiMBDL: How did you reinstall qt?05:53
sebsebsebMBDL: what's the issue then?  I thought you had some sort of issue05:53
MBDLsebsebseb: after the 10 or so broken things that i only really had to fix 205:53
n8tuserkravlin yes05:53
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MBDLrampageai: package manager and the sdk from there site05:53
MBDLsebsebseb: lolz u answered it already how to access my windows drive! we just got offtrack05:54
rampageaiMBDL: I've been attempting to reinstall several packages because I believe it may be the cause of my broken application problems.  I'll give qt a try, too.05:54
MBDLsebsebseb: LOL!!!:-D05:54
sebsebsebMBDL: your running 8.04 in Wubi hummmmm?05:54
sebsebsebMBDL: yeah and  I told you to try and avoide wubi05:55
sebsebsebMBDL: hell if your going to have  Ubuntu inside Windows, you may as well do it properly inside WIndows, in a virtual machine05:55
jmpand remotely too, by using putty on vista05:55
sebsebsebMBDL: or do both05:55
sebsebsebMBDL: dual booting sucks05:55
MBDLrampageai: and xulrunner use not the main server but the us to download updates and there will be one for xulrunner05:55
kravlinn8tuser: no. as in what does that mean?05:55
sebsebsebMBDL: however you want to get Ubuntu on your hard disk :)  properly with partitions05:56
n8tuserkravlin its a replacement of network manager05:56
MBDLsebsebseb: no im running 9.0405:56
sebsebsebMBDL: real partitions, but maybe just wait now for 9.04 and good Ext4 views. and install 9.04  with Ext4 partitions05:56
jmpit's always impossible to connect to localhost using SSH, and remotely too, by using putty on vista someone can help me?05:56
kravlinn8tuser: ok. i'll attempt it once i have a wireless connection again.05:57
MBDLsebsebseb: yes i perfer partitions... works WAY BETTER i know less drawbacks and if something goes wrong its easy as 123 to reinstall05:57
Svenstarojmp, stop blocking port 22?05:57
jmpI'm workind on intrepid05:57
lifulinghanso am  i05:57
MBDLsebsebseb: well got to head to bed... moving in the morning...05:57
sebsebsebMBDL: well 9.04 isn't really meant to be suppourted in here,  but I am banned still from the channel for it,  we could go pm, but no ops or anyone complaining, and your issue is not 9.04 specfic anyway05:57
sebsebsebMBDL: ok well05:57
sebsebseb!install05:57
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - see also !automate05:57
sebsebsebMBDL: many ways to install Ubuntu,  try and partition later on, instead of doing wubi05:58
sebsebsebMBDL: as in wait for 9.04 final and  then partition05:58
aranyikAnyone ? Is it possible to ping through a router made of ubuntu with only creating routes and activating ip_forward ?05:58
jmphow do I know it's block ?05:58
sebsebsebMBDL: only a few weeks now05:58
MBDLsebsebseb: yes i know that what ill do wait till the full release05:58
Svenstaroaranyik, you want to ping through your router?05:58
wermseim using network-manager-pptp trying to setup a pptp connection.  it gets connected but im having a couple problems. 1) it's using the dns info from the pptp server, which i don't want.  and 2) it's routing all traffic rather than subnet specific traffic through the pptp connection.  anyone know if there is an easy way to fix this with network-manager-pptp?05:58
sebsebsebMBDL: and you could be like me, and wait for some good Ext4 in jaunty veiws before putting on properly with Ext405:58
MBDLsebsebseb: and sorry to say i haft to head to bed moving in the morning05:58
sebsebsebMBDL: I am running the beta on Ext3 at the moment.  I had alpha6 before, anyway yeah bye05:59
MBDLsebsebseb: thx for your help05:59
sebsebsebMBDL: no problem05:59
MBDLBye everyone thx for chatting :P05:59
aranyikSvenstaro, well I'm dreaming that some day I'll be able to use it as a router-firewall and have my private network, but for now just pingning outside of it would be so great!05:59
moldonondhow to install a tarbz2?06:00
sebsebseb!tar06:00
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression06:00
Svenstaroaranyik, I would use a dedicated box for security reasons for a router. Use IPCop or something similar. I'm using it right now and it's been running for years without mucking.06:00
lifulinghansudo get-apt instll06:00
moldonond!tar06:00
sebsebsebmoldonond: extract it.  then  cd into that  folder.  and I guess it's like .tar.gz and so.  ./configure make make install06:00
sebsebsebmoldonond: and you might have some dependancies to sort out before it will install06:01
yoasdfwhat is gdm's default runlevels?06:01
sebsebsebmoldonond: what do you want to installl anyway?  there may be a deb for ubuntu06:01
yoasdf2 3 4 5 S ?06:01
yoasdf2 3 4 5 S ? GDM default runlevels06:01
aranyikSvenstaro, Is there CLI version or only GUI ?06:01
moldonondok thank very much06:02
lifulinghanhow can i use ping know that the source rate06:02
Svenstaroaranyik, you usually use the webinterface to do stuff. You only use the cli to install stuff like binary addons but everything else is done in the web ui. I liked IPCop so much I put up a box on my school.06:02
rampageaiMBDL:  I just made sure the US server was selected and then I selected xulrunner and several of the qt packages for reinstallation-- is that the right concept or am I off?06:03
aranyikSvenstaro, ok I'll take a look right now, thanks!06:04
Svenstaroaranyik, there's a large community around it so you should be fine in case you run into problems.06:04
aranyikSvenstaro, OK :D great!06:04
Svenstaroaranyik, good luck06:04
aranyikSvenstaro, thanks !06:05
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Guest71623test06:09
Guest71623hello06:09
elros_azothiPING!06:10
elros_azothiPING06:10
raddadit's working06:10
elros_azothiPING!06:10
elros_azothiPING!06:10
Guest71623PING!06:10
lifulinghanwhat06:10
lifulinghan?06:10
smokewonhey so when is 9.01 being released?06:10
elros_azothijust pinging to see if people can hear me06:10
rubens_como atualiza lista de repositorios06:11
Guest71623PING!06:11
lifulinghanwhat you ip06:11
pinokiogimana caranya import database melalui terminal ubuntu06:11
elros_azothiwhy would u want that?06:11
Guest71623test06:11
rubens_?06:11
rubens_?06:12
lifulinghani want you know your ip that i can ping you06:12
elros_azothino06:12
moldonondnot working06:12
elros_azothilol06:12
raddadlooks like enough pinging going on around here06:12
elros_azothii ment it in a sence that i was just wondering if people in this channel can hear me06:12
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sebsebseb!jaunty | smokewon:06:15
elros_azothiwas having issues06:15
ubottusmokewon:: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.06:15
grinsys?06:15
FormodenHi there, can anyone send me a pastebin of their Ubuntu entry in GRUB? Thanks.06:15
moldonondlol06:15
sebsebseb!ops06:15
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!06:15
VantraxFormoden, that will differ based on version06:15
Halluzinationhey, i know this probably isnt the channel for this question... but perhaps someone can answer/direct me to the correct channel for the answer::  in general, what is the biggest difference between KDE and GNOME?06:16
seb-where docs on proper way to set up seahorse-agent ?06:17
jachredIs there a GUI interface to mount partitions and HDD's?06:17
seb-jachred: why do you want a GUI?06:19
iktgparted?06:19
sebsebsebHalluzination: Gnome uses  GTK apps and  KDE uses QT apps06:19
sebsebsebHalluzination: they are just differnet desktop environments06:19
sebsebsebHalluzination: there isn't really a big difference as such06:19
lifulinghan:)06:19
lifulinghan:(06:19
jachredI have gparted, but it doesnt allow you to mount.  I cant figure out how to mount it the command line way.06:20
Halluzinationsebsebseb: right, i understand the difference in apps and they are envs, but there is no difference other than that? like.. any advantages/disadvantages of either one? I'm guessing GNOME is more popular than KDE, right?06:20
seb-Halluzination: they are both so good that the differences are negligible06:21
iktkde vs gnome is one of the bigger debates on the net06:21
Nytrixso how do i put /boot and bootloader on my usb when i install ubuntu?06:21
FormodenSeeking the most current version of Ubuntu's kernel... The one that was released just a couple days ago... 2.6.27---?06:21
seb-Nytrix: i noticed System/Administration has a "USB Starup Disk Creator"06:22
seb-Nytrix: at least on Jaunty beta :)06:22
Nytrixbah!06:22
Nytrixi guess i can wait06:22
an00bkde ftw06:22
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Nytrixnever mind06:23
Nytrixi see it06:23
Nytrixthnx06:23
Nytrixso this will move my /boot bootloader to usb?06:23
jachredNytrix: worked for me today06:23
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Nytrixsweet dude06:23
ling_chinarm -r /rrot06:23
Nytrixthnx06:23
FormodenCan anyone please tell me what the latest /boot/initrd.img-{Numbers} is?06:24
ling_chinawhy not use "rm -r /root"06:24
bguptaAnyone have any suggestions for an open source pager/sms email gateway that handles oncall rotations, escalations, and 2 way messaging? Thinking something like this, but open source:  http://www.mir3.com/Products/TelAlert/index.php06:24
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ling_chinam06:25
Nytrixwhen is ubuntu 9.04 comming out? when is the actual date?06:26
FormodenCan someone please tell me what the most currently Ubuntu hardy Kernel version is?06:26
FormodenNytrix, 22 days.06:26
sebsebseb!jaunty06:26
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.06:26
Formodennytrix, are you running hardy?06:27
Formoden!kernel06:29
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages06:29
Nytrixim on 8.1006:30
FormodenNytrix, can you do be a huge favor?06:30
Nytrix?06:30
FormodenCan you open your /boot/grub/menu.lst and pastebin it for me?06:31
Formoden!pastebin | Nytrix06:31
ubottuNytrix: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)06:31
Nytrixno06:31
FormodenNytrix, Can you pastebin your ubuntu entry for me? Or at least tell me what's on this line? "initrd /initrd.img-2.6.27-5-386"06:31
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illmortalizeanyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?06:32
Nytrixno06:32
macman_illmortalize, fdisk -l06:32
Nytrixtry some1 else06:32
FormodenNytrix, thanks then. You're very helpful.06:32
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Nytrixsorry i dont know u can maybe hack into my pc06:33
illmortalizethanks macman!06:33
Nytrixhehe06:33
macman_fdisk -l .. the first set of stuff you see is normally your hd .. hda1 or sda1 .. anything after that /dev/sdc /dev/sdb1 are external stuff06:33
macman_ie usb06:33
FormodenNytrix, No I'm just trying to figure up what's the latest initrd.img06:33
illmortalizeI'm tryin to determine which HDD has my important documents. lol06:34
macman_illmortalize, is it an exteral ?06:34
illmortalizenope... I have one HDD that's a SATA and the other is a ATA06:34
macman_aw06:34
FormodenCan anyone please pastebin me their 8.10 Hardy's latest Entry?06:34
macman_illmortalize,  type mount06:34
FormodenGrub... sorry.06:34
raddadformoden: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/releasenotes06:36
illmortalizeargh... macman left =\06:36
Formodenraddad, The kernel was updated a couple days ago, I just need the most recent version's version number so I can boot into my ubuntu.06:37
perdidopunkanybody hear about what conficker is doing yet?06:37
hateball!windows | perdidopunk06:37
ubottuperdidopunk: For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents06:37
Formodenraddad, If you can give me even a clue I'd be very happy.06:38
SoS11where can I find some basic info about applying a .patch to a program, or about modifying it??06:38
MrSunshinepatch -p0 -i patch.name? :)06:39
illmortalizeGuys.. How do I determine if sda1 is SATA or ATA?06:39
perdidopunksounds like SATA to me06:40
illmortalizeo.O?06:40
SoS11MrSunshine, but what if the "@@ -40,10 +40,12 @@" lines don't matcg...will they still work?06:40
FormodenCan anyone even give me a link to a page that will tell me the latest kernel version available to ubuntu?06:40
perdidopunkotherwise it'd probably be HDA106:40
hateballFormoden╶ packages.ubuntu.com06:40
MrSunshineSoS11, for the most part if not alot of changes has been made to the code06:40
MrSunshinethat they've moved/trivial changes patch usaly can take care of06:41
MrSunshinebut if code is changed expect that you might have to hand patch :)06:41
perdidopunk@illmortalize the fact that it's SDA1 implies to me that it's the first partition on the first sata drive06:41
Formodenhateball, Thanks for the help.06:41
paypiriusanyone know the solution to this? ive installed ubuntu off a usb drive, and it starts up fine, but every time i restart it asks me if i want to install it again so i dont have to run it off a live cd... but its not, it running off the harddrive06:42
SoS11MrSunshine, that's why I want some info about...I donno what to change in those @@ -xx.xx +xx.xx @@ lines ... any info about what they mean?06:42
illmortalizeperdidopunk.... but I only have 1 SATA and 1 ATA. and the other hard drive is sdb06:42
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perdidopunkdo you have any usb drives plugged in?06:43
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MrSunshineSoS11, its position references06:43
MrSunshineline numbers etc06:43
illmortalizehm...... can I paste bin my fdisk -l and mount?06:43
paypiriusnope nothing, just the internal hdd06:43
illmortalizeperdidopunk ^06:43
perdidopunkif you'd like to06:43
MrSunshineSoS11, they can be a bit strange to read tho, as the first one might add 20 lines to the code, so the next position reference is the position in the new code, not the old etc :)06:43
MrSunshinethe code containing then new 20 lines06:44
MrSunshineSoS11, but do a backup of the code and try and patch it :)06:44
illmortalizeperdidopunk: http://pastebin.com/m4d82e1d906:44
perdidopunkuh06:45
perdidopunkthose disks look identical06:45
illmortalizelol...06:45
perdidopunkare you telling me you have two disks that are exactly the same, but one is sata and one is ide?06:45
illmortalizeTwo 500GB06:46
illmortalizeone is IDE and the other SATA06:46
perdidopunkare they the same brand?06:46
paypiriusanyone know who to stop ubuntu from asking me to install it every time i start up, when its already installed?06:46
SoS11MrSunshine, "can't find file to patch at input line 4" ... so I need to manualy edit it06:46
perdidopunkpaypirius, eject the boot cd?06:46
paypiriusits not in anymore06:46
perdidopunknot sure then06:47
paypiriusits running completely off the drive it was installed to06:47
sn00p-does anybody know anything on how to apply the patch for sys injection on the bcm43xx for linux 2.6.27?06:47
MrSunshineSoS11, oh06:47
perdidopunk@illmortalize i'm not sure what to tell you06:47
MrSunshinedarn :)06:47
MrSunshinedunno then06:47
illmortalizeperdido, one is a maxtor the other is a seagate, im pretty sure06:47
bullgard4"~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_hda_intel 346136  3". What does mean the '3'?06:47
illmortalizeseagate is satsa06:47
illmortalizesata*06:47
MrSunshineSoS11, you got a filename at the reference lines also06:47
MrSunshineso you can see what file to edit etc06:47
SoS11MrSunshine, manually editing the files would take ages :(06:48
MrSunshineis it an old patch that your trying to use for a newer program ?06:48
jakeriverhmm. anyone using easypeasy version of ubuntu?06:49
perdidopunk@illmortalize well, i'm surprised that they have the same low-level formatting. interesting06:49
perdidopunk@illmortalize see if you can get the SMART info, i guess06:49
SoS11MrSunshine, yes06:49
sn00p-it says Sysfs injection support was not found either06:49
illmortalizetype SMART?06:50
xTheGoat121xEvening everyone06:50
perdidopunk@illmortalize i don't think so. it's just the acronym for the hdd monitoring info06:50
MrSunshineSoS11, might not even be doable then06:50
illmortalizehow would I go about that, perdido?06:50
perdidopunk@illmortalize06:50
MrSunshineas usaly files disapears, and new ones gets added etc06:50
perdidopunktry uh06:50
perdidopunksmartctl -i /dev/sda06:50
xTheGoat121xI'm having an issue with Flash... the performance is terrible, and I've tried everything I can think of to improve it.06:50
SoS11MrSunshine, I'll try to manualy edit the files...maybe I'll get lucky :)06:50
MrSunshinegl hf :)06:51
SoS11:)06:51
SoS11ty06:51
kopwhat is the off topic or ubuntu chat chan ?06:51
illmortalizedownloading smartmontools06:51
perdidopunksmartctl should tell you the device model of each disk06:52
perdidopunkit's part of smartmontools06:52
as84Hello i am trying this tutorial http://code.suckless.org/contrib/guide/wmii-3/guide-en/guide_en/node5.html#SECTION0005100000000000000006:52
perdidopunkyou did an apt-get?06:52
as84when it says press "MOD-Enter"... what is the "MOD" key, i am a bit confused06:53
illmortalizewoooooot06:53
perdidopunk@illmortalize gratz06:53
illmortalizeperdido, sda1 = SATA (Seagate Barracuda) :D06:53
illmortalizesweets..... so my SATA is the actual drive :D06:54
illmortalizethat has the important back ups :P06:54
illmortalizethanks perdido!06:54
perdidopunk@illmortalize no problem!06:54
perdidopunkand with that, i'm going to sleep. goodnight room06:54
paypiriusanyone know how to stop it from asking me to install ubuntu every time i restart, when it is already installed?06:55
disappearedngWhat are the software requirements to make my Home computer a proxy?06:56
DigitalKiwigoogle06:57
xTheGoat121xpaypirius, have you removed the CD from the drive?06:57
paypiriusyes i have06:57
xTheGoat121xpaypirius, then I have no idea.  Mine always stopped after removing the CD06:57
paypiriusit is booting off the hdd, but still thinks its a live boot06:57
elros_azothi2ive got a really random question...any way of making a command "make me a sandwich" ? like of that webcomic06:58
mutewGot a quick question about the startup video modes in Ubuntu.06:58
elros_azothi2so i can type "make me a sanwich" - have it return no06:58
bullgard4"~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_hda_intel 346136  3". What does mean the '3'?06:58
elros_azothi2then type "sudo make me a sandwich" and have it return "OK"06:59
elros_azothi2:P ?06:59
mutewbullgard4, it means that there are three other inserted modules dependent on it.06:59
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NasraJan:07:00
mutewelros_azothi2, there's a slight problem with the command you want to make.07:00
bullgard4mutew: I am inclined to not believing you: There are other output lines where the depends are listed and there that number does not correspond to the number of modules listed.07:01
koala^hey vanasmile :)07:01
vanasmilehi koala^:)07:01
elros_azothi2go on07:01
koala^vanasmile this is where you will get all the help you need for ubuntu07:01
koala^(in theory)07:02
vanasmilethank you so very much07:02
vanasmileI will be back07:02
bullgard4mutew: Example: "snd_seq                54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event"07:03
joetheoddWas someone looking for me earlier? Someone said my nick07:03
vanasmilethank you. Bye for now07:04
DigitalKiwielros_azothi2: I have written you a program to do that07:08
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DigitalKiwielros_azothi2: http://rafb.net/p/HAXJzQ45.html save this as "make me a sandwich" chmod +x make\ me\ a07:12
chrismillerAnyone think they can get a ubuntu install up and running on Rackspace / Mosso cloud with an old version of Plesk control panel?07:12
DigitalKiwielros_azothi2: http://rafb.net/p/HAXJzQ45.html save this as "make me a sandwich" chmod +x make\ me\ a\ sandwich07:12
the9a3eediquestion. is there any way I can find the xorg.conf that the ubuntu liveCD uses?07:12
DigitalKiwiexecute by typing "./make me a sandwich"07:12
wanna_learn_morecan i know LBM true type?07:12
DigitalKiwioh and install lua07:13
DigitalKiwiofc07:13
wanna_learn_morei tried apt-get install linux-backport-modules cant find anything.tried linux-backports-moudle too07:13
wanna_learn_morestill dont get anything07:13
vinohi07:13
thori have a fresh install of 8.10 and upgraded to the new kernel. but now when i try to use apt i get a "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" What can i do?07:13
elros_azothi2Thor; another package manager is in use07:14
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thorelros_azothi2: i cant seem to find anything else that would be using it07:16
elros_azothi2mmm07:16
the9a3eediQuestion: what driver does ubuntu use by default when not using any restricted drivers? vesa?07:16
the9a3eedior does it depend on the card you're using?07:17
Boohbahthe9a3eedi: it depends07:17
paypiriusanyone know how to stop ubuntu from trying to install every time i restart, when its already installed? it thinks its still running off a live cd.07:17
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bullgard4"~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_seq  54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event". What does mean the '6'?07:18
magnetronpaypirius→ remove the CD from the CD reader07:18
paypiriusdone that07:18
the9a3eediBoohbah: like right now I have an nvidia card. What driver does X use?07:18
magnetronpaypirius→ then it's not running from a CD anymore07:18
the9a3eedinv?07:18
paypiriusim aware its not, but it thinks it is07:18
paypiriusevery time i restart it asks me if i want to install07:18
QPrimepaypirius: this is a brand-spanking new install?07:19
magnetronpaypirius→ please give us the full error message. what version of ubuntu are you running?07:19
paypiriusbrand new install, no error message, just the lovely install screen that ubuntu comes with07:19
andrew_I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless on a fresh Xubuntu 8.10 install...anyone free?07:19
magnetronpaypirius→ what version of ubuntu is this?07:19
paypirius8.0407:20
magnetronpaypirius→ what version does it want to install? and what's the exact message?07:20
paypiriusits not a message, its the install window that runs off the cd, asks your timezone, partitions, user names, etc, and i assume the same version that is running07:21
QPrimepaypirius: did you do an oem install?07:22
g4lt-lappypaypirius, have you thought of taking out the install CD?07:22
andrew_I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless on a fresh Xubuntu 8.10 install...07:22
paypiriusi dont think i did an oem install... and yea already the cd is gone07:22
QPrimepaypirius: from the 'alternate' cd07:22
QPrimepaypirius; ok07:22
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JMProghello all07:22
JMProganyone know how to upgrade to mono-2.4 or 2.6?07:23
SeViLLaandrew_: whats your question07:23
the9a3eediAnyone? is there a way to check out what kind of xorg.conf the ubuntu liveCD uses?07:23
paypiriusdunno, is there just a way to change the start up options so it goes away?07:23
the9a3eedibecause when I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it's pretty empty07:23
the9a3eediso I'm confused07:23
andrew_SeViLLa, I don't really have a question...just not sure what to try next.07:24
QPrimepaypirius: that seriously sounds like an oem install (just my .02) :(07:24
andrew_Upon fresh install Atheros restricted driver is 'activated and currently in use'07:24
paypiriusif it is an oem install what would my next step be?07:24
SeViLLaandrew_: ok whats the problem with the wireless no ip, driver, what?07:24
andrew_iwconfig shows no wireless extensions07:25
QPrimepaypirius: follow the prompts and it should finish and reboot.07:25
andrew_pretty sure my driver is ok07:25
DigitalKiwielros_azothi2: I have one in bash now07:25
QPrimepaypirius: or you can re-install using the standard desktop cd07:25
paypiriusit goes through the partitioning info, cries about not being able to unmount the drive (since its running off it) and then i have to stop07:25
andrew_I've also tried using ndiswrapper but still not showing any wireless extensions (nor is it showing up in networkmanager)07:26
QPrimeHmmm: well then *thats* not good.  seeing as its a fresh install I'd wipe it and start over.07:26
DigitalKiwihttp://rafb.net/p/QrDnnu60.html elros_azothi2 same procedure07:26
DigitalKiwiother than you don't need lua07:27
paypiriusyea  i thought i might have  to, any particular action i should take during an install to make sure it knows its finished?07:27
Boohbahthe9a3eedi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XORGHardy07:27
QPrimepaypirius: are you using 8.04.2?07:27
SeViLLaandrew_: yeah you got me there havent had that problem before07:27
Boohbahthe9a3eedi: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:27
Persihi there, whys Jaunty so slow, is it temporary?07:27
paypiriusyer07:27
SeViLLaandrew_: nothing on in the ubuntu forums07:27
QPrimepaypirius: no particular action... it will eject the cd and reboot.07:28
andrew_lspci | grep Network07:28
paypiriusdidn't work last time haha07:28
QPrimepaypirius: then its not properly installed ;)07:28
andrew_02:00.0 Ethernet controller:  Atheros Communications Inc.  AR5007G Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)07:28
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andrew_it's a pcmcia07:28
karthikhi07:29
andrew_So apparently Xubuntu knows it's there07:29
Persianyone have suggestions? is it worth it to wait few weeks for a new version or it will be just as slow?07:29
andrew_Persi, if you require speed...I'd suggest Xubuntu.07:30
andrew_It's much lighter.07:30
QPrimePersi: Jaunty help is in #ubuntu+1  (and you'll need to be more specific than that)07:30
SeViLLaandrew_: did you try ifconfig eth1 up07:30
paypiriuswhats easy peasy offer that ubuntu doesn't?07:30
andrew_sudo ifconfig eth1 up yields:  eth1:  ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device07:31
husayn__how to mount .bin file07:31
husayn__ i have tried mount media.iso -o loop /media/mnt  but when i mount .bin file i get error07:31
Persithanks, and I`m actually on xubuntu ;)07:31
chaitan3husayn__, does ir have a .cue file too?07:31
grinsysI use it. Its not what it doesn't offer. But it uses a lightface launcher..while ubuntu does. but its the same thing otherwise..07:31
chaitan3husayn__, ir=it07:31
husayn__ya it has a cue too07:32
andrew_Looking for a wireless whiz, having issue with wireless on a fresh install...please help!07:33
chaitan3husayn__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages07:33
SeViLLaandrew_: sorry i dont know then keep trying good luck07:33
chaitan3husayn__, you'll have to convert bin/cue to iso and then mount the iso07:35
husayn__thanks chaitan307:35
vbhidehi there, I'm trying to download a bittorrent client, and not one can be installed on feisty07:36
andrew_i believe azureus works with feisty07:36
QPrimevbhide: feisty is almost eol... time to upgrade ;)07:37
vbhideok :) ...07:37
vbhidetoo lazy07:37
raddadchange is evil LOL07:38
gogetabo07:38
TeslaTonyvbhide: You can also give rtorrent a shot. It's somewhat annoying, since it's command-line based, but may avoid some compatibility issues07:38
gogetateslatony transmission07:39
TeslaTony(it's also just plain a really sweet client)07:39
TeslaTonyNever tried that one07:39
vineethmy fire fox is offline on default so i want to manually unchececk it always can u make my firefox online permanently07:39
gogetateslatony has good stuff like encryption07:39
defryskqtorrent is nice07:40
vineethhelooo any body help me07:40
TeslaTonygogeta: So does rtorrent. Think transmission would work on feisty?07:40
gogetateslatony in the repos i beleve07:40
mib_4216usrgHi. Total noob. First time Ubuntu user. First time IRC user. Having trouble with my wireless. Anyone willing and able to help?07:41
tudorhello, im switching to ubuntu from archlinux, I just want a barebones install with no xorg, no kde or gnome, etc.. should I use the server cd?07:41
elhugodorsure07:41
DigitalKiwi!ask07:41
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:41
defrysktudor, something like that yes07:41
elhugodorlol give him a break he's a n00b07:41
thorelros_azothi2: ok i figured it out07:42
tudordefrysk: can you be more definite? or is installing with the server cd the way to go?07:42
tudoror should i use the minimal desktop cd?07:43
elhugodorhey anyone have any ideas for this conundrum: My school just cracked down super hard on their internet policy07:43
thorelros_azothi2: it was trying to d/l it from the install cd...and wasnt giving me any errors to use it07:43
bullgard4"~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_seq  54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event". What does mean the '6'?07:43
vineethmy browser firefox is always offline how can i permanently make it online?07:43
gogetaelhugodor proxys07:43
elhugodorthey block every port useful, 6667,20,21,2207:43
gogetaproxys07:44
elhugodorproxy no good, blocked all web based proxy07:44
elhugodormy best bet is tunneling07:44
thorunderground...07:44
gogetaproxys07:44
vineethheloooo?07:44
thorcant stop it07:44
gogetalol07:44
DigitalKiwissh over that port that htmls uses07:44
elhugodorhowever, I'm unable to ssh into my box due to so many ports blocked07:44
tudoris there another ubuntu channel geared towards more high-end users?07:44
raddadvineeth: try the preferences section of firefox for that option07:44
gogetanon web based07:44
elhugodortried 2107:44
elhugodorthat's the ftp port07:44
elhugodordidn't work07:44
Sagacitudor: #ubuntu-leet07:44
elhugodorblocked07:45
tudorSagaci: seriously07:45
elhugodori'm trying 80 and 139 tomorrow07:45
thortelnet 0,o07:45
Sagacitutor: no07:45
elhugodor80 is http and 139 is netbios i know they can't block that07:45
elhugodortelnet no go07:45
elhugodorblocked07:45
thorwhat about other random ports07:45
gogetaport scan07:45
elhugodorthat's my best bet07:45
elhugodorinstalled nmap07:46
elhugodor139 open07:46
elhugodortryin that07:46
DigitalKiwissh over that port that htmls uses07:46
Jones-KHow to set UTF-8 on fstab with ntfs-3g? mount -a changes type to fuseblk and utf-8 isn't listed on the options anymore07:46
DigitalKiwihar only https07:46
* DigitalKiwi is tired07:46
elhugodori can only try once a day cause every time i have to go home and reconfigure my box because i can't access it remotely07:46
elhugodorhttps might work yea07:47
elhugodor8080 right?07:47
DigitalKiwino07:47
gogetautf-8 is old and unused with the new ntfs-3g07:47
elhugodori mean 1080?07:47
DigitalKiwino07:47
DigitalKiwiit's four hundred something07:47
gogetaeven if you enable it it will ignor it07:47
elhugodor443?07:47
DigitalKiwiyeah07:47
Jones-Kgogeta: ok, so what does it use?07:47
gogetaknothing07:47
elhugodoryea that is it07:47
NiphyrHey guys, had bad experiences with iptables so safest to ask. How can I block all traffic to port 123 EXCEPT from the IP 1.2.3.4?07:47
gogetanot nedded07:47
elhugodoris there any way to get sshd to listen on more than one port?07:48
DigitalKiwiyes07:48
Jones-Kis it going to work with scandic characters07:48
krishnan\join #wordpress07:48
DigitalKiwiother way ;p07:48
gogetashould07:48
krishnaniam planning to start an online newspaper. the server will hardy server edition. should i use wordpress, joomla or media wiki? please guide me.07:48
vineethsorry i dont see anything in preference section raddad07:48
elhugodorif i could get ssh to run on more than one port I could knock off more ports each day07:48
Jones-Kgogeta, ok, thanks07:48
elhugodorsshd*07:49
raddadkrishnan:  try your other slash to change channels07:49
vineethany body pls help me to make my browser firefox online permenently07:49
raddadvineeth: try the preferences section of firefox for that option07:49
ynkhi guys. i'm having a lot of trouble installing the radeon hd plugin i downloaded from http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/240286/ati-radeon-hd-2400-hd-2600-hd-2900-xt-hd-3850-hd-3870-driver-8.430-windows-xp(x32-x64)-free-download.html07:50
krishnanraddad:merci07:50
ynki mean driver.. not plugin.07:50
gogetaynk LOL!!!!!07:50
vineethraddad pls tell where in preference?07:50
gogetalook at that file and think07:50
ynkgogeta, hehe07:50
DigitalKiwielhugodor:07:51
DigitalKiwi       Port   Specifies the port number that sshd(8) listens on.  The default is 22.  Multiple options of this type are permitted.  See also ListenAddress.07:51
DigitalKiwifrom man sshd_config07:51
ynkgogeta, i'm not sure what you mean. i merely did a google search on finding a driver for my radeon hd 2600xt.07:51
gogetaynk think07:51
ynkgogeta, do you mena that the site doesn't look legit?07:51
gogetaynk sites fine07:51
gogetaynk what os are we running07:52
vineethanybody pls help me to make my firefox online permenently07:52
gogetaynk lol07:52
ynkgogeta, OMG!07:52
gogetaLOL07:52
ynkgogeta, wow. i am a total idiot!07:52
ynkgogeta, thanks pal. LoL07:53
gogetaynk lol i was wating for it to catch lol07:53
ynkbut now i must find the right drivers. -sigh-07:53
gogetalook n the ati site07:53
gogetaon07:53
ynkk07:53
gogetaor07:54
gogetaynk apt-get install fglx07:54
halyconhey everyone does anyone know why sometimes when I power on my computer my wireless connection doesn't try to connect automatically, everyonce in a while I will have to manually tell it to connect.07:54
gogetaubuntu ati drivers07:54
ynkgogeta, "couldn't find package fglx"07:55
ynkwell, let me have a look on the radeon site really quick...07:55
remuI just installed gwibber (tried from both the regular repos as well as the gwibber team's PPA) and it keeps crashing from both sources. Heres the output from gwibber 0.80 (the version from the Jaunty repos): http://pastebin.com/d49dacd6e07:56
gogetaynk sudo  apt-get install fglrx07:56
ynkgogeta, couldn't find that package either.07:57
gogetawtf07:57
Gadualright, got a new PC and installed Ubuntu LTS. the device manager nvidia drivers wouldn't work for me so I downloaded the one I needed from the nvidia site.07:57
pretenderusing storage device manager what does the remove button do07:58
gajanHi All07:58
Gaduafter stopping gdm, installing the drivers, and starting it back up again. everything worked great. however, if I reboot I go back to low graphics mode.07:58
mrjohnsenHi. This Ubuntu 8.04 Server is locking me out. Can't log in at all. I think this happend after i copied from a partition to the / partition. http://www.mrjohnsen.net/problem.jpg07:58
BBThey, so, I have a quick question07:59
Gadureinstalling the drivers the same way gets me back in to graphics properly so I've also tried a few time saving the xorg.conf with nvidia-settings. that also has not worked07:59
BBTit seems like building from source is avoided for Ubuntu07:59
BBTis this true?07:59
GaduBBT: building from source works fine, I do it when I feel it necessary. though most things are more easily accessible via deb08:00
BBThmm08:00
BBTnot mono 2.408:00
gajanI wanted to know is there any software for ubuntu that reads from a english text file  or pdf and gives audio output08:00
BBT:-(08:00
zhuraiI personally find that using .deb files just was there to make it easier for newer users to adapt to ubuntu/linux, but I could be dead wrong there o_o08:01
Nytrixcan some1 help with external HD? it was working before but now i can see it!08:01
GaduBBT: did you `sudo aptitude install build-essential` ?08:01
DigitalKiwiyou don't want to see it? :P08:01
BBTno, I could try that08:01
zhuraithat...08:01
zhuraiwould be the reason08:01
zhuraiI'd think >_>;08:02
zhurai-_-08:02
GaduBBT: it's required for building from source08:02
GaduXD08:02
BBToh, well I must already have it because I've built from source before08:02
zhuraiit's the package with make, etc with it08:02
BBTbut I think it screwed up the distro's version of mono08:02
BBTafter I did make install08:02
oliver_Hi all im just wondering when im at work how do i connect through remote desktop to this computer? its jsut that this computer is running through a router so ip address is 10.0.0.2 or something like that how would i connect directly to this computer?08:02
Gaduoliver_: forward port 5900 in your router settings to your PC08:03
Gaduoliver_: then use realvnc or vncviewer to connect from work to your IP08:03
gajanI wanted to know is there any software for ubuntu that reads from a english text file  or pdf and gives audio output ?08:04
oliver_Gadu, am i able to use the standard Win XP remote access software?08:05
ynkwhat are the disadvantages of installing Ubuntu within an existing windows installation?08:05
Gadugajan: I don't know any off the top of my head but at the very least I know there are websites that are able to do that (I use a french one)08:05
Gaduoliver_: you won't be able to use the winXP remove software to connect to your home ubuntu install08:05
Kesman_yet08:06
pretenderin PySDM what does the remove button do08:06
Gaduoliver_: you may be better off installing ubuntu with qemu on a usb device and using that at work?08:06
gajanGadu : Can u pls give me the url of some of them ?08:06
gajanGadu : as i am googling for some time on this08:07
Gadugajan: I can give you a french one lol08:07
Gadugajan: I found that one through google08:07
oliver_Gadu, oh right the xp remote desktop dosen't allow sharing its just remote desktop08:07
gajanGadu : Ok , let me try once more . Thanks08:08
bugfuxI am getting the following error trying to install apache:08:08
bugfuxErr http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libssl-dev 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.408:08
bugfux  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]08:08
Niphyrhmmm, hey guys, had bad experiences with iptables so safest to ask. How can I block all traffic to port 123 EXCEPT from the IP 1.2.3.4?08:08
bugfuxI can ping archive.ubuntu08:08
Gadubugfux: I'll check for you, 1 sec08:09
bugfuxk08:09
bugfuxthank you08:09
ynkwhich compiler do you guys recommend on this OS? ..or does everyone just use GEdit?08:09
ynkfor developing with Java..08:10
ynksorry. left that part out.08:10
fsufitchhi. i need some help. i have 300 photos out of which i need to create contact sheets of 35 photos per page, with the filename under each photo. however, ubuntu does not seem to have a tool who can accomplish such a task, in its base programs or repos. the gimp contact sheet plugin crashes, and gthumb can't display the filename without the entire path. does anyone know any other program i can use?08:10
Gaduynk: I used gedit for editing the code and gcj for compiling08:10
ynkgcj..? interesting.08:11
oliver_Gadu, can u try to connect to my computer via remote desktop plz?08:11
H_M-UbuntuI have a problem with emerald, can I paste a link to a screenshot (.png) giving a description of the problem?08:11
Gaduynk: works like gcc but for java08:11
ynkgadu, it comes with the distro, right?08:11
H_M-UbuntuI've searched nearly everywhere, and no one seems to be having the same problem.08:11
Gaduynk: sudo aptitude install gcj08:11
ynkgadu, ah. ok.. any major differences between that compiler and the ones by Sun?08:12
H_M-UbuntuNo ideas?....08:12
Gaduynk: mostly just that gcj is terminal based08:13
ziroday!imagebin | H_M-Ubuntu08:13
ubottuH_M-Ubuntu: Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.08:13
ynkgadu, good enough for me. thanks.08:13
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: but you should be aware that emerald is no longer supported or maintained by the compiz project and they strongly recommend you don't use it08:14
bugfuxGadu: any ideas?08:14
H_M-UbuntuI already have my own link, it's on a website I trust and love dearly (An opensource game development community' website)08:14
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H_M-UbuntuI'll post the link then?08:14
kbpCan any1 confirm that Pidgin 2.5.5 cannot connect to MSN on ubuntu? It has been more than 1 day08:14
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: sure, but I doubt anyone will help you08:14
H_M-Ubuntuhttp://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/y5ictabhlfdj5ku91yh.png08:14
oliver_Can someone test my remote access plz08:14
Gaduoliver_: sure08:14
zirodaykbp: one sec08:15
Gadubugfux: almost there08:15
H_M-UbuntuWell how do I use Compiz themes (Which I prefer greatly to GTK2.0) on Ubuntu 8.10 then?08:15
bugfuxoh okay didnt know it took so long08:15
H_M-UbuntuI made my own, that I rather love.08:15
kbpziroday: how did u go?08:16
zirodaykbp: install the msn-pecan package and switch your provider to WLM08:16
mrjohnsenHi. This Ubuntu 8.04 Server is locking me out. Can't log in at all. I think this happend after i copied from a partition to the / partition. http://www.mrjohnsen.net/problem.jpg08:16
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: you mean emerald themes?08:16
H_M-UbuntuYeah08:17
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kbpziroday: thanks alot i will do it08:17
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: well you can't, if there is an emerald bug its extremely unlikely to get fixed as nobody maintains or supports that software anymore08:17
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: you can try recreate your window theme in metacity08:17
H_M-Ubuntu:(08:17
H_M-UbuntuWell it isn't incredibly noticeable.08:17
H_M-UbuntuI'll get over it08:18
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: sure, thats your choice08:18
TeslaTonyRight now I'm having an interesting issue with sound. I'm running 8.10, and if I leave either Exaile or VLC open and on pause (or at a disk menu) for too long, my sound dies. Any idea how I can fix it without rebooting? How to stop it from happening?08:18
psypher246can anyone please tell me how to restart nm-applet in intrepid, i've been goolging for ages and cannot find anything, thanks08:18
H_M-UbuntuWell no.... I'll get over it by fixing it myself... I am a programmer, so why not?08:18
H_M-Ubuntu:X08:18
zirodayH_M-Ubuntu: then even better08:18
oliver_gadu: how come win xp access dosen't work wtih ubuntu?08:19
zirodaypsypher246: killasll nm-applet && nm-applet08:19
Gadugadu: the protocol is different08:19
zirodaypsypher246: err s/killasll/killall08:19
Gadugadu: think of it as 2 people that speak a different language trying to communicate08:19
oliver_gadu: ah yeah i see, uses completely different algorithms to communicate08:20
H_M-UbuntuGadu: Question...... why are you talking to yourself08:20
raddadlol08:20
GaduH_AM-Ubuntu: aha, ty08:20
GaduXD08:20
oliver_H_M-Ubuntu, copy and paste maybe?08:20
oliver_:D08:20
psypher246ziroday: nope still get network manager is not connected and this on the console: ** (nm-applet:17742): WARNING **: nm_client_get_devices: error getting devices: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files08:20
zirodaypsypher246: tried restarting?08:21
H_M-Ubuntu:)08:21
psypher246why?08:21
psypher246i shouldn't have to and i want to klnow how08:21
psypher246so annoying, it keeps changing every new ubuntu08:21
zirodaypsypher246: sure, try do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart08:21
psypher246done it already08:21
zirodaypsypher246: and its to find out if that error is even related to network manager running or not08:21
psypher246shouldn't i be doing it with dbus>?08:22
zirodaypsypher246: are you an application?08:22
psypher246all i did was restart hal according to a howto to get multitouch working and since then network manager is dead08:22
zirodaypsypher246: right, and its extrememly hard to get network manager working again. The simplest way is to restart08:23
Gadubugfux: I have been unable to recreate your problem. `sudo aptitude install apache2` worked multiple times for me using hardy08:23
bugfuxhmm08:23
zirodaypsypher246: what does nm-tool output?08:23
bugfux install apache2-prefork-dev libapr1-dev08:23
bugfuxis the command im running08:23
Gadualright, I'll try those08:23
psypher246ziroday: it's really dumb, such an important thing should be easily restarted08:24
Gadubugfux: I see, it failed08:25
bugfuxokay cool08:25
bugfuxnow what? :)08:25
bugfuxoh wait an update fixed it08:26
GaduXD08:26
krautmoin08:26
bugfuxsorry, should have tried that before08:27
bugfuxappreciate all the help08:27
bugfuxyour a saint08:27
Gaduanytime =o08:27
psypher246ziroday: NetworkManager appears not to be running (could not get its state).08:28
psypher246ziroday: nm=tool08:28
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kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?08:30
Gaduso anyone know why my new PCs graphics work immediately after installing them and starting gdm but not after a reboot (also tried saving xorg.conf with nvidia-settings)08:30
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DigitalKiwidid you actually save xorg.conf with nvidia-settings08:31
saulusI need to find the source of the original image-set out of which some icons are used in my project. I clearly identified my projects "save" button to look similar to /usr/share/qt4/doc/src/images/linguist-filesave.png. This seems to originate the same set. Where do I find this set? Just have a look at: saulus.dyndns.org/~david/linguist-filesave.png and saulus.dyndns.org/~david/save.png. The icons in my project are local copies without a note where08:32
DigitalKiwiyou have to gksudo nvidia-settings08:32
GaduDigitalKiwi: yes, 2 times (one using 60 refresh and the other using auto)08:32
GaduDigitalKiwi: yep, that's how I lauched it as well08:32
DigitalKiwik08:32
DigitalKiwihmm08:32
GaduDigitalKiwi: both the xorg.conf generated by the driver install and nvidia-settings fail08:33
H_M-UbuntuDid y'all notice YouTube is upside down?... Just pointing it out :X08:33
GaduDigitalKiwi: yet my graphics work perfectly when I start gdm manually after (re-)installing the nvidia driver08:33
joveHI all, how can I get connect a  different CHAT server from Ubuntu server ?08:33
ljvslooking for a linux distro that is basic.  no programs added aside from gnu/linux.  preferably not debian08:34
H_M-UbuntuJove: What client?08:34
gogetajove  /server08:34
tudoris there a difference between the server kernel and the desktop kernel?08:34
H_M-Ubuntuljvs, Arch Linux08:34
ljvsand i already know about arch08:34
H_M-UbuntuHmmm well Vector Linux?08:34
H_M-UbuntuNo wait Vector has KDE08:35
jovegogeta, I meant to join to different server08:35
ljvsok will check it out. thanks....but kde doesn't have to be debian08:35
ljvso right....nevermind08:35
ljvsi forgot my question08:35
tudori want to install ubuntu without kde or gnome or anything else, just the basic linux install08:35
tudorand manually install what i want08:35
ljvstudor: that's my question08:35
tudornamely, awesome as the wm08:35
DigitalKiwitudor: investigate arch linux08:35
gogetajove do you mean chat08:35
tudori tried arch but it's very unstable08:35
joveh_m_Ubuntu, what do U meant client ?08:35
H_M-UbuntuArch Linux has no window manager (No KDE, no Gnome, no apps, no nothing)08:35
DigitalKiwihmph08:35
H_M-UbuntuIt's a clean slate.08:35
tudorbeen using it for 4 months now08:35
DigitalKiwiubuntu server then08:35
tudoras a server and a desktop08:36
ljvsDigitalKiwi: anything else than arch linux?08:36
kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?08:36
tudorim installing ubuntu server now in VirtualBox to test it out08:36
DigitalKiwiarch is the best :<08:36
tudorbut im wondering if ubuntu server's kernel is configured more for server purposes rather than desktop08:36
DigitalKiwiljvs: maybe slack08:36
tudorand if there will be any performance hit for desktop use08:36
H_M-Ubuntujove: What IRC client are you using? (E.G. XChat, Konversation, KVIRC)08:36
jovegogeta, for example, I want to join a different server "cluster.org"08:37
tudorand does ubuntu server use the same package repositories as desktop edition?08:37
H_M-Ubuntujove: IRSSI even. But the general command for switch networks is /server <server name>08:37
joveh_m-ubuntu, XCHAT08:37
ShoopufAre there any XMPP chat clients for Ubuntu that support voice chat? (I'm looking for the best alternative to GoogleTalk, for Linux)08:37
Gadutudor: as far as I know, they have the same repos they just have different default packages and a different installer08:37
tudorGadu: excellent08:37
tudorthen server is what I want08:37
ShoopufI just tried Prism with GoogleTalk but the font size was pretty awkward.08:38
H_M-Ubuntuljvs: I just remembered something, Ubuntu Server has no GUI and no extra applications. You can use the terminal to install all the things you want.08:38
GaduGadu: you can also opt for the alternate installer available08:38
ljvsslack still seems to complicated. i need a usable minimal desktop that will let me learn linux08:38
H_M-UbuntuUbuntu Desktop has all the bloat08:38
ljvsubuntu server sounds great.08:38
disappearedngHey everyone How do i get irssi to use proxy? I read the documentation but it doesn't really help.. my proxy server is located on my other computer08:38
ljvsanything that is not debian?08:38
tudoryeah i just installed it08:38
tudorin VirtualBox will configure everything and see how it is08:38
bugfuxI cant install git via apt-get08:38
bugfux?08:38
tudorbut stay away from Arch if you want simplicity08:38
joveh_m-ubuntu, from this Ubuntu here, how do I connect to other server (IRC)08:39
tudorhalf the packages you want aren't supported directly in arch you have to use AUR08:39
tudorwhich is a bitch08:39
DigitalKiwitudor: wut08:39
tudorand the community is quite small08:39
DigitalKiwiyaourt08:39
tudoryeah yaourt is a bitch too08:39
DigitalKiwithe community isn't really that small08:39
H_M-Ubuntujove: Type in /server <server you want>08:39
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H_M-UbuntuIn XChat chat window08:39
DigitalKiwiand it is incredibly helpful08:39
tudorthe PKGBUILD files always contain the wrong versions, and you have to edit it, etc..08:39
tudorit's annoying08:40
ShoopufAnyone know if Google's Picasa is native to Linux or does it have some sort of WINE encapsulation?08:40
DigitalKiwiI see problems get fixed there a lot faster than here, no offense08:40
tudorShoopuf: native08:40
DigitalKiwitudor: wut08:40
Shoopuftudor: thanks... I am trying to switch to Ubuntu and really need my Picasa :P08:40
DigitalKiwiyou still get more up to date packages than ubuntu08:40
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tudorthat isn;'t necessarily a good thing08:40
tudorstability is important08:40
DigitalKiwiyou can't have both!08:41
DigitalKiwiand if you read the news and know what you shouldn't upgrade you can be stable08:41
tudorI'm saying more packages seem to be included in apt-get than in arch's pacman08:41
DigitalKiwiusage: uptime [-V]08:41
DigitalKiwi    -V    display version08:41
DigitalKiwi 02:41:35 up 142 days,  3:54,  8 users,  load average: 1.30, 1.61, 1.6608:41
ShoopufThat's my current beef with Ubuntu so far, I gotta manually upgrade stuff (like from Pidgin 2.5.2 to Pidgin 2.5.5) ... I figured it was supposed to do that with sudo apt-get update...08:41
DigitalKiwii think it would be a few months longer but I upgraded the kernel a while back08:42
ShoopufAnyone know if there's a screenlet or Gnome Panel plugin to show motherboard/GPU temperature? I saw the GPU temperature in the "NVidia X Server Settings" but didn't see a way of showing it on the desktop.08:43
DigitalKiwiconky?08:43
DigitalKiwimight do it08:43
ShoopufDigitalKiwi: ok i'll check it out, thanks08:43
DigitalKiwis/might/probably will/08:43
kravlinShoopuf: Conky08:44
Doctor_NickMAYBE08:44
Doctor_NickNO!08:44
kravlinShoopuf: It does it. I have it running right now08:44
Shoopufkravlin: thanks, googlin for it now :)08:44
joveh_m-ubuntu, how to connect to the channel after access to the server ?08:44
sparky1492 Heys Guys,  I have been fighting with netatalk for the last week trying to set it up on my server.  I test installed it on my desktop with success but i can not replicate it on my server.  Any suggests??  I have Googled the crap out of netatalk and can not find one up to date.'08:44
H_M-Ubuntujove: Type /join #(Channel name here)08:45
kravlinShoopuf: it's in the repositories08:45
darthanubisI broke my apache08:45
darthanubisI no long get  "It works!"08:45
joveh_m-ubuntu, is the syntax like this:  /server <server name>  /join #channel ?08:45
kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?08:46
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H_M-Ubuntujove: No, just type the server name in, then once connect type the join command08:47
H_M-Ubuntujove: To disconnect from a server, type /quit <Optional quit message>08:47
JustKemphi08:47
syockitH_M-Ubuntu: hmm... if you're not connected to any other server, wouldn't that also exit the program?08:48
{g}Hey People! How can I see if a lines in a textfile end with LF or "CR LF"?08:48
{g}Should I use some hex editor or something?08:48
JustKempi have a printer, a canon mp240. it doesnt work on ubuntu, and i dont know how to get the drivers. could anyone help?08:48
H_M-Ubuntusyockit, Not sure. Never tried it honestly.08:48
glovanhalow08:49
H_M-Ubuntusyockit, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't, it would just disconnect.08:49
kravlinanyone able to help (message above, yes i'm spamming, yes i'm sorry, no i won't do it again)08:50
DigitalKiwiuse wicd08:50
DigitalKiwiis my recommendation08:50
sauluswhich are the packages that contain /usr/share/icons stuff? I need them ALL08:50
syockit{g}: i think vi has the option to show linebreaks08:50
JustKempanybody?08:51
divxclubhey there !08:51
kravlinJustKemp: sytem>administration>printing08:51
saulus{g}: please no amsgs. #vim helps you a lot08:51
JustKempyes?08:52
divxclubdoes anyone can point me to online source for good commercial games I can get for Ubuntu please ? Thank you08:52
{g}saulus: amsgs?08:52
kravlin add printer?08:52
JustKempyeah08:52
saulus{g}: messages in all channels08:52
joveh_m-ubuntu, the join syntax does not work yet...Do i need to have the port numer ?08:52
kravlinJustKemp: new printer, find the printer and set it up.08:52
kravlinJustKemp: should Autodetect08:53
BigMoopiesI messed up and ran nautlius under XFCE and now the desktop wont show up correctly, is there a way to fix this?08:53
BigMoopiesor is this a Xubuntu question only08:53
JustKempyeah. it cant find no drivers08:53
JustKempi downloaded them. found the one that i supposedly need, and it didnt work08:53
JustKempgotta go anyway. neva mind08:54
kravlingah. and i'd just found the solution on that too.08:54
kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?08:55
BigMoopiesIs it possible to reset the xubuntu-desktop , or uninstall/reinstall ?08:55
joveh_m-ubuntu, are U still there ?08:55
glovanhalow08:56
H_M-Ubuntujove: Join is very simple, type /join #channel and replace channel with the channel you want to join. (Example, #ubuntu)08:57
akm1hi.. im running windows using virtualbox in ububntu in fullscreen mode...but while logging sending ctrl-alt-del doesn't do anything to it...08:57
akm1any idea whats the issue...08:58
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: What is your host key? (Default is Right Control button)08:58
joveh_m-Ubuntu, once i access to the server, it asked for the port number .08:58
H_M-Ubuntujove: Oh that's a different story, type /server <Server>:666708:59
UKGentTheSheep I notice now that if you use 'info' on the terminal - it seems to go straight into emacs ?08:59
H_M-Ubuntujove: 6667 is the default port on IRC servers, anything from 6666 to 7000 should work.09:00
akm1H_M-Ubuntu,  I get  fullscreen with no panels...how to get it back the panel09:00
UKGentxfce4 panel09:00
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: You're on your Windows guest I assume?09:00
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, im running virtual machine from ubuntu...09:01
joveh_m-ubuntu, thx...let me try....one more question: from this ubuntu, when i access to the other server, then it disconnect this #ubuntu, I could not get back to this #ubuntu, how should I prevent it ?09:01
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: Yes, Ubuntu is your host (The thing running virtual box), and Windows is your guest (The thing running INSIDE virtual box).09:01
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, yeah..09:02
H_M-Ubuntujove: Type /newserver to open a new server window09:02
kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?09:02
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: Hit right ctrl + F, that should close fullscreen.. err exit fullscreen, rather.09:02
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: Assuming you didn't change any of the default binds, that will work09:03
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: Also, to fix your Ctrl + Alt + Delete problem, try using the LEFT Control button, and right Alt + Del.09:03
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, thanks a lot...its working09:03
kravlinsomehow i don't think anyone knows an answer to my problem.09:04
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: No problem :) Further, have you installed guest additions on Windows?09:04
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, no.. i havnt installed...09:05
sparky1492Can someone read thsi log and tell me what is going on? why it is erroring09:05
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sparky1492http://paste.ubuntu.com/141912/09:05
Jimi_NeutralHi all09:05
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ravn1hi guys: I have a printing problem. We have a printing system at work with a printer server the uses kerberos. At the same time I have a printer at home that I want to use. The instructions for the printing system is http://www.chalmers.se/its/EN/documentation/printing/printing-with-self4993 which I followed but then I cannot print - the print button in any program is gray. Any suggestions? Also the printer I have at home, how do I install th09:06
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H_M-Ubuntuakm1: I recommend it, it is very useful. Care to install it now? All it basically does is add integration between the host OS and the guest OS. Such as mouse integration (The mouse and keyboard automatically are selected), Seamless mode (Ubuntu GNOME and Windows DWM are paralelled together), and other features.09:07
kravlini reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work. If i run ifdown i get interface eth0 not configured. can someone help?09:07
shawnwazzup09:08
Jimi_Neutralfirst of all is there a way to turn off all the notifications in this Xchat client?09:09
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, how to install it ?09:10
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: One sec i'll write out step by step instructions09:10
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, ty09:10
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: In the window holding the VM, click Devices > Install Guest Additions, It will mount a CD in Windows. If you don't have autorun on, the dialog won't pop up by default, so go to Start > (My) Computer > (Whatever CD drive) and open up the 32bit installer.09:12
H_M-Ubuntuakm1: Then go through the on screen instructions, and reboot when done. They should be installed and you will see the results immediately.09:13
sharktoothhello all09:13
SYST3M32Man this sucks09:13
jovehi09:13
H_M-Ubuntusharktooth, Hello09:13
kravlinok. now eth0 isn't even appearing in ifconfig. can someone please help before i destroy my install?09:13
SYST3M327 can of red bull and still can't get this working09:13
SYST3M32yea09:13
H_M-UbuntuSYST3M32, How can I help?09:13
SYST3M32I can't get my wifi to work to save my life09:14
SYST3M32My laptops a Toshiba L45-S742309:14
SYST3M32The wireless card shows up in ifconfig09:14
SYST3M32but in sysinfo it doesnt show up09:14
joveh_M-Ubntu, it does not work once access to the server...which asked to register the nickname, but I've already had it with XCHAT from window XP.09:15
SYST3M32and network manager is all fubared09:15
SYST3M32I think I need drivers but can't find any09:15
H_M-UbuntuOh don't ask me about wireless stuff SYST3M32.. The last time I messed with wireless, I opened up blender and made an animation of me shooting myself..... I watched the animation thousands of times over, at 17 different angles.09:15
sharktoothcan u set an ip address with ifconfig?09:15
SYST3M32then im screwed09:15
shawnset ip with your router sharktooth :P09:16
H_M-UbuntuSYST3M32, Ask again, maybe someone else knows the answer.09:16
joveh_m-ubuntu,09:16
sharktoothno i was asking system 32 :)09:16
SYST3M32hmm idk09:16
H_M-UbuntuSYST3M32, Did you try the Ubuntu Forums? Maybe someone already has a post about the same laptop, or a similar one.09:16
kravlinSYSTEM32: same here. I've been asking a good 30-40 mins but i haven't even gotten a response. sorry dude. If i knew about networking i'd help.09:17
SYST3M32im a linux newb to be honest09:17
shawnoooooooopsies ;)09:17
SYST3M32gf had roidrage and slamed her fist on my laptop09:17
H_M-Ubuntujove: Join #Freenode for general IRC help09:17
shawn1 am here. i have an excuse.... at least i make myself think that hah09:17
SYST3M32something happened to my windows partition and it wouldnt boot up09:17
H_M-Ubuntujove: Or try #help on the network that you're trying to access.09:17
sharktoothwell, ok ifconfig shows that interface as what?09:17
jove h_m-Ubuntu, it does not work once access to the server...which asked to register the nickname, but I've already had it with XCHAT from window XP.09:17
akm1H_M-Ubuntu, thanks ..will try that...i dont have window cd right nw...09:18
SYST3M32and only my ubuntu partition works so i figure i'm stuf with it09:18
shawnso anyone a web guru? need help with awstats :P09:18
SYST3M32stupid IO error...09:18
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: boot to recover root console and fsck, then scandisk your windows partition in windows safe mode09:18
AussieGuyI want my machine to be able to send emails from php scripts, but I also dont want it to be wide open for spammers09:18
H_M-UbuntuSYST3M32, Meh, i've been there mate.09:18
dayohow do i change between tabs in gnome-terminal?09:18
AussieGuyif I installed sendmail-bin, would that be safe?09:18
ActionParsnipAussieGuy: apt-cache search php mail09:18
sharktoothsys32, whatcha got in ifconfig  (just interface names)09:18
UKGentSYSTem32 So am I and I have learnt that the quickest route to most solutions is to search the forums. What I usually do is Google my question literally , word for word and append it with Ubuntu Forums - it nearly always finds something09:18
H_M-Ubuntudayo: Do you mean create a new tab? Or do you mean switch to another tab?09:19
ActionParsnipUKGent: try other searchengines too09:19
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kravlinH_M-Ubuntu: am i being annoying or being ignored? I'm not figuring that anyone knows the answer to my question i'm just suprised nobody's told me to shut up yet.09:19
shawnshutup!09:19
shawnj/k09:19
ActionParsnipkravlin: wassup?09:19
dayoH_M-Ubuntu: switch to an existing one, via keyboard shortcut09:20
UKGentAction - whatever but I don't have any ideological objections to things that work - the fact is Ubuntu has good links on Google - like them or not....09:20
H_M-Ubuntudayo: Hmmm.... I'm sorry but i'm unaware of that ability. Try checking in the options of terminal for anything like that.09:20
kravlinActionParsnip: accidentally uninstalled Network-Manager, then a friend re-setup my wireless and redownloaded it through repositories, now wired network doesn't work at all. atm it's not even appearing in ifconfig09:20
H_M-Ubuntukravlin, Honestly I didn't see your question mate. :D I'm sorry, i'll scroll up now.09:20
ActionParsnipUKGent: true but other search engines use differrent algorithms so may find different sites. Thats alli'm saying09:21
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SYST3M32Hey09:21
ActionParsnipkravlin: does it show in: sudo lshw -C network09:21
kravlinH_M-Ubuntu: i kinda figured that was it. people help others at random and i kinda slipped through the cracks. Thanks for helping. I've got no idea what i'm doing.09:21
dayoH_M-Ubuntu: /me slaps forehead09:21
SYST3M32how do i get a more neopunk theme09:21
H_M-Ubuntukravlin, Interesting problem. I'm afraid I can't help you on that one.09:21
shawnanyone here know how to install BitchX in ubuntu?09:21
H_M-Ubuntudayo: ?09:21
SYST3M32like black background and green text09:21
dayoH_M-Ubuntu: it's right there in Tabs in the Menu bar! LOL09:21
dayoCrtl+PgUp/Dn09:22
ActionParsnip!INFO BITCHX09:22
ActionParsnip!info bitchx09:22
shawnthx09:22
Caesihullo all, how can I connect two monitors at once?09:22
ubottuPackage bitchx does not exist in intrepid09:22
shawn!INFO BITCHX09:22
shawnblah09:22
H_M-Ubuntudayo: Ahh, well I was sure it was in a simple location.09:22
kravlinActionParsnip: yeah. it shows up.09:22
H_M-Ubuntudayo: I think you can change the binds in options, too.09:22
UKGentAction - Yes - point taken - I use a whole bunch of Search engines - and sometimes meta-search such as Cluster etc etc -  I take your point of course !09:22
ActionParsnipkravlin: how about: sudo ifup eth009:22
H_M-UbuntuYeah under edit > keyboard shortcuts09:22
H_M-UbuntuHey I learned something today! :D09:23
kravlinCaesi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117409:23
Jimi_NeutralIm having real trouble with Clonezilla. When it tried to take the image from the windows machine Ububtu says that the NTFS partition is corrupt. Also when running the image cloner, yo do run it from the box that is being cloned dont you?09:23
dayoH_M-Ubuntu: yeah, i see it now! thanks! :-D09:23
Caesikravlin: thanks09:23
SYST3M32msg kravlin how are you connecting then?09:23
H_M-Ubuntudayo: No problem, even though I didn't /technically/ do anything09:23
H_M-Ubuntu:X09:23
kravlinActionParsnip: Ignoring unkwon interface eth0 = eth009:23
dayoH_M-Ubuntu: lol09:23
ActionParsnipkravlin: hmm09:24
ActionParsnipshawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83038809:24
kravlinSYSTEM 32: first, you forgot the /. Second, I'm on a second computer, and for some reason, wireless works fine on the laptop i'm working on. they just won't allow wireless routers in the dorms.09:24
SYST3M32try "sudo su root"09:24
SYST3M32"lspci"09:24
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: no don't, use sudo -i instead09:24
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: users can run lspci as well09:24
SYST3M32check to see if its even on the system09:24
shawnActionParsnip: thanks but didn't work09:25
SYST3M32yea09:25
shawnbeen there already09:25
SYST3M32but this makes life simple running as root09:25
sharktoothor sudo xterm for a root window so u dont have to sudo a 10000 times09:25
SYST3M32so he doesnt have to use sudo like water09:25
kravlinSYSTEM32: who are you talking to09:25
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: sudo su doesnt configure the environment correctly so is not right09:25
H_M-UbuntuSo yeah, I have....... like 35 items in my dock.. I think it's time I close something, don't you agree?09:25
UKGentAction  The main point is that conducting a Search in conjunction with the Forums, generally homes in on the answer - I always try that now before asking a direct question on IRC.  I find IRC best for very specific operational queries09:25
shawnget stuck on ./BitchX09:25
H_M-UbuntuNah!!!!! I'll just make the icons smaller!09:25
SYST3M32lolz09:25
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: sudo -i (interactive) does set it up correctly so will not screw up your file ownerships and access)09:26
SYST3M32idk09:26
ActionParsnipshawn: try tab completing the command09:26
SYST3M32sudo su root always works for me09:26
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: it will break your system09:26
SYST3M32and i dont have to type sudo sudo sudo get cat sudo09:26
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: sudo su shouldnt work as the root account is disabled09:27
SYST3M32not on my system:D09:27
Jimi_NeutralAnyone know much about Clonezilla?09:27
shawnActionParsnip: been there done that ;)09:27
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: then you have weakened your system security, well done09:27
tsimpsonActionParsnip: it works because it's root who's running su09:27
kravlinActionParsnip: the computer's a Lenovo thinkpad x61 and the device is apperently a gigabit card from Intel.09:27
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: by default (and for many MANY good reasons) the account is disabled09:28
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: sudo su will not work on a normal install and sudo -i is advised09:28
sharktoothyeah its like a double positive :)09:28
sharktoothsudo su sudo09:28
sharktooth:)09:28
SYST3M32yes i have09:28
SYST3M32but i can always disable it09:28
tsimpsonActionParsnip: it does work, but it's pointless09:28
SYST3M32and i have a 36 character alphanumeric passwd for root09:29
SYST3M32so i think it will be good09:29
ActionParsnipkravlin: does lshw -C network say the device has a module associated with it09:29
ljsoftnetwhat's the terminal keyboard shortcut for autocomplete?09:29
SYST3M32call me nuts09:29
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: you are missing the point09:29
kravlinok. this argument is getting rediculous. it's obvious that system's just pushing buttons.09:29
tsimpsonSYST3M32: but a 0 length password is impossible to crack09:29
SYST3M32but its gonna be a ich on your head to bruteforce that09:29
SYST3M32i don't think09:29
SYST3M32anyone has the balls09:29
SYST3M32to crack them open09:30
UKGentI was given to understand that it is best not to be root, except as needed - leaves you open to compromise does't it ?  but the great thing about Linux is that we are free to live dangerously , if we want , I suppose !09:30
tsimpsonwith no password, you can not crack it09:30
shawnActionParsnip: figured it out.... darn typo09:30
cemchow can i prevent the dhcp client from updating my /etc/resolv.conf09:30
cemc?09:30
shawnActionParsnip: thx09:30
tsimpsonyou have a password set, so it's possible to crack09:30
SYST3M32yea09:30
kravlinActionParsnip: it does.09:30
SYST3M32with top software09:30
tsimpsonSYST3M32: with a small bot swarm and persistence09:30
SYST3M32i estimate a 178 years with 1 tb of rainbow tables09:31
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: the root account is disabled to stop users logging in as it and running apps like irc and web brosers which can be attacked, circumvented and taken control of, givi the attacker the priveledges of that program. If a command is running as user its access is significantly reduced so cannot affect the system so badly09:31
SYST3M32have fun with that09:31
SYST3M32its my personal pc09:31
tsimpsonSYST3M32: that's still more likely than 0% yes?09:31
SYST3M32on my personal subnet09:31
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: also if the account is disabled a brute force attack has ZERO percent chance of success09:31
SYST3M32yea09:31
kravlinSYST3M32: still possible.09:31
SYST3M32but whats the fun in that09:31
SYST3M32log it09:31
SYST3M32find them09:31
SYST3M32have fun09:31
FloodBot2SYST3M32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:31
SYST3M32plz be a little more creative09:31
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: as all unix systems have the account it is the first point of attack, by enabling it you have weakened your system09:32
SYST3M32yea i'm really not worried about it09:32
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: there is nothing a user in the admin group cant do that root can't do09:32
SYST3M32i have more pressing concerns, like my damn wifi not working09:32
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: you will when someone starts copying your cached passwords over from your system09:32
SYST3M32yea this is a experimental OS09:33
BrainWavtest09:33
SYST3M32nothing on here is worth anything09:33
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: anyway, the default (and intelligent) option is root to be disabled, so please do not advise users to sudo su09:33
SYST3M32and all ports are closed09:33
BrainWavsweet... BitchX working ;)09:33
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: advise   sudo -i  in future09:33
kravlinActionParsnip: any ideas?09:33
BrainWavthx09:33
SYST3M32well i advise you help me fix my wifi before i help you select users best course of action09:34
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ActionParsnipkravlin: can you pastebin the output of: lshw -C network09:34
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: usb or pci?09:34
SYST3M32idk09:34
SYST3M32I'm thinking its usb09:34
kravlinActionParsnip: Through a usb dongle.09:34
SYST3M32nothing pulls up on sysinfo, and the lights not on showing its active09:35
SYST3M32yet i can ifconfig it09:35
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: can you pastebin the output of lsusb please09:35
ActionParsnipsysinfo is not worth much, ifconfig knows better09:35
kravlinSYST3M32: how would you not know if it's USB? is it inside the case attached somehow?09:35
SYST3M32Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:36
SYST3M32Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.09:36
SYST3M32Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:36
SYST3M32Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:36
SYST3M32Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:36
FloodBot2SYST3M32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:36
SYST3M32Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:36
UKGentI don't really understand the philosophy that in order to be 'creative' you have to act recklessly but if that is what some people think ...  let them get on with it... but if they are that creative , why do they need to ask for help lol09:36
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: use pastebin in future please09:36
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: flooding irc is not cool09:36
SYST3M32idk what that means09:36
ActionParsnip!paste | SYST3M3209:36
joveh_m-Ubuntu, are U still there ?09:36
ubottuSYST3M32: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)09:36
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: if i asked you to do something and you don't understand, you should have asked and I would have explained09:36
joveh_m-ubuntu ?09:37
Jimi_NeutralIs there someone here that can help me with Clonezilla?09:37
H_M-Ubuntujove: Err yes, sorry, I was busy09:37
kravlinjove: he's there. just all over.09:37
SYST3M32I see09:37
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=309:37
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: pastebin allows you to paste HUGE swathes of text to a small link09:38
kravlinActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141927/09:38
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: see what kravlin just did, thats a pastebin09:38
SYST3M32I have ndiswrapper and that did not fix my problem09:38
ActionParsnipSYST3M32: imagine if he'd pasted ALL that in the channel09:38
Oli``I just deleted (not move to trash) something off an ext3 drive I'd rather have kept. Any way to get it back?09:38
joveh_m-Ubuntu, Thanks for your help....I am successful to connect it.... and 1 more question: on that channel, how should I see all of the users as this #ubuntu ?09:39
H_M-Ubuntujove: Not sure I know what you mean.09:39
aprilharere09:39
cabrilohello all... is it possible to download an installation CD of 8.10 with all the updates included?09:39
ja660kwho can help me with subnet calculating?09:39
aprilharedefine all the updates09:39
Caesihullo, can anyone help with xinerama? :)09:39
aprilhareits still being updated afaik09:39
kravlinActionParsnip: If i pasted most of that then i'd probably get kicked for flooding.09:40
ActionParsnipkravlin: thats why pastebin exists09:40
SYST3M32Interesting09:40
kravlincabrilo: unfortunately not that i personally know of. any reason that having to update would be bad?09:40
H_M-Ubuntujove: I have to go, ask someone else for help if you still need it, Ok?09:40
joveh_m-ubuntu, in this #ubuntu , i see your name rolling up and other people as well, on other chanel , I dont' see users09:40
nyaaI was wondering if having a later version of G++ can affect the performance of wine? (using 1.01 for wine)09:41
Jimi_Neutralja660k: there are some great subnet calculators on google09:41
cabrilokravlin: the target machine has bad internet connection (GPRS - slow and expensive)09:41
ja660kjimu_Neutral: i know but its for school and the numbers dont make sense and i dont know what to do.09:41
kravlinActionParsnip: i just want to figure this out. i don't understand it and it's driving me nuts.09:41
ActionParsnipkravlin: the device is marked as *-network DISABLED   i'm seeing how to get it up and running09:42
ActionParsnipkravlin: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:42
joneskoohey, I have an A-Link 3GU Turbo 3G-modem, I'd like to get it to work with 9.04. any help? when I connect it it starts flooding "Starting file manager" to the taskbar09:43
joneskooI have a HUAWEI E169 modem which works09:43
Kesman_joneskoo: when you connect it to what?09:43
Kesman_ethernet port in your pc?09:44
joneskooto my macbook running 9.04 beta09:44
kravlinActionParsnip: it reconfigured and i got nothing new in ifconfig09:44
joneskoono it's an USB 3G modem09:44
joneskoo3G or UMTS09:44
Kesman_joneskoo: ah I see09:44
Kesman_dunno then09:44
ActionParsnipkravlin: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware09:44
joneskooon debian I need to modprobe usbserial with vendor and product options and _eject_ the appearing CD drive09:44
kkb110does anybody know how to prevent screen reset(flash) when I switch user by pressing ctrl+f8 or f7?09:45
joneskooafter CD eject it switches USB ID09:45
joneskoowhere should I go to talk about this to get this working in 9.04 release? :)09:45
kravlinActionParsnip: no internet: can't sudo.09:45
kravlinActionParsnip: or apt-get for that matter09:45
joneskoomodprobe usbserial: Module usbserial not found. I don't know if the kernel has renamed usbserial module or what, but if I could set the option for it it might work09:46
vigojoneskoo: /loin #ubuntu+109:46
vigoerrr /join09:46
PrimedeathHello there. :]09:47
kravlinActionParsnip: actually. when i run apt-get it tells me the directory's locked09:47
ActionParsnipkravlin: can you pastebin the output of lsmod09:47
ActionParsnip!fixapt09:47
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »09:47
kravlinActionParsnip: sure. mind if i try a reboot first?09:47
ActionParsnipkravlin: sure, can't hurt09:48
PrimedeathQuestion, I just got my new 1TB Drive. When I format it to EXT2 it only shows that 870GB is free. When 910-940GB is it's true space when formatted.09:48
ActionParsnipPrimedeath: you sure you didnt format ext3?09:48
PrimedeathI have it connected to my router, and it shows 870GB free out of 916GB.. Even though I have put nothing on it.09:48
PrimedeathI am sure.09:48
PrimedeathThe same loss of space is on EXT3 as well, I did it with my 80GB.09:48
linxehPrimedeath: because 10% is kept for root by default09:48
linxehor something09:48
PrimedeathHm.09:49
linxehfor lost+found and other maintenance09:49
PrimedeathAny way to remove that?09:49
linxehwhen you format I think mkext2fs has an option to tune it09:49
PrimedeathI just want to be able to have NAS Storage on my Tomato router.09:49
linxehbut you risk losing data09:49
ActionParsnipPrimedeath: nope, you could use a different fs09:49
PrimedeathHmm..09:49
PrimedeathTomato only supports EXT2/3 and FAT.. =[09:49
ActionParsnipdont use fat, its not robust09:49
PrimedeathI know09:50
PrimedeathFAT is never an option for me. :}09:50
ActionParsnipits ok on 1Gb memory sticks09:50
FuTzhello, i'm experiencing a problem with my ubuntu 8.10.. i was changing refresh rate and now when i log in my monitor says out of range, how could i fix this problem?09:50
PrimedeathSo I pretty much lose almost 100GB of freespace? =[ Damn.09:50
FuTzi tryed with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xortg09:50
ActionParsnipwell, you'll lose 10% of any disk09:50
PrimedeathHow big is the chance of losing data if I were to just reduce the size that it saves.09:50
FuTzbut that configuration does not give me to input refresh rate09:51
kravlinPrimedeath: I feel your pain. my next goal is to set up a 2TB server in the case of a PS209:51
PrimedeathI know, but 870GB free out of a 1TB Drive, bleh.09:51
linxehPrimedeath: you know its not really a 1TB drive right ?09:51
PrimedeathIf only Tomato supported NTFS. =[09:51
PrimedeathI know.09:51
ActionParsnipPrimedeath: if your other device was more forgiving you could use ntfs or JFS09:52
PrimedeathJFS, hmm09:52
ActionParsnipor some other FS09:52
linxehits only 931GB to begin with, and that there is always an overhead with filesystems09:52
FuTzcan someone help me with my problem?09:52
mer53HI its me again .......... so hope someone cam help me09:53
kravlinActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141931/09:53
ActionParsnipkravlin: could try: sudo rmmod e1000e; sudo modprobe e1000e09:53
PrimedeathOh well, I'll stick with EXT2.. I feel safer with it... Or should I go EXT3?09:53
linxehPrimedeath: always ext309:53
kravlinFuTz, mer53, Ask your problem not if you can ask it. that's what this place is here for.09:53
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PrimedeathI'll do that once I reboot into Ubuntu. :]09:53
Primedeath00000000000000000000000000000000000000009:54
pg-13[prostitutehow do i get an old nvu package to werk on 8.1009:54
linxehPrimedeath: you could tune the saved space for root down a bit I guess, but mmmm, I'd rather the fs had enough room to recover lost inodes etc if the worst does happen etc09:54
ActionParsnipPrimedeath: if its that big, ext309:54
linxehPrimedeath: does your router thing support ext3 ?09:54
PrimedeathYup09:54
mer53ok got a problem with using terminal .......... I believeit is working from the directory desktop and the file I am converting is on the desktop but terminal says file not found09:54
linxehthen go with that, the journal should help protect against corruption09:55
ActionParsnipkravlin: you may need to rename /etc/network/interfaces and reboot09:55
mer53I am using alien09:55
ablmfhow to change machine name of ubuntu?  I am using server edition09:55
kravlinActionParsnip: the first one removed it from the gui for network manager, the second brought it back and it looks for a network then gets disconnected.09:55
linxehmer53: when you open a new terminal it starts in your home directory, not the Desktop. type "cd ~/Desktop" to get onto the desktop09:55
pg-13[prostitutemaybe ./ before the file09:55
mer53ok cheers09:55
linxehmer53: what are you trying to install with alien ?09:55
mer53graphics drivers09:56
ActionParsnipkravlin: you could read   dmesg | less09:56
linxehfor what card ?09:56
kravlinActionParsnip: and what would i rename those to?09:56
mer537500 and eventually a x1950 pro09:56
mer53radeons09:56
ActionParsnipkravlin: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old; sudo shutdown -r now09:56
PrimedeathWhat exactly does the saved space for root do? Does it protect my data? Just to let you know, this is purely storage and I am not using Linux. :] This is just a better place to ask than the linux channel.09:56
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kravlinActionParsnip: and when i put in dmesg | less i have no idea what any of it means.09:57
ActionParsnipkravlin: if someone says rename a file, just give it a different name09:57
linxehmer53: and there arent drivers in the repositories for them ?09:57
ActionParsnipkravlin: dmesg | less will allow you to read yur kernel messages from the second it comes alive09:57
FuTzi have changed refresh rate and now when i log in my monitor says out of range, how to fix it?09:58
mer53mer@mer-desktop:~$ sudo alien fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm09:58
mer53File "fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm" not found.09:58
mer53mer@mer-desktop:~$ sudo alien fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm09:58
mer53File "fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm" not found.09:58
mer53mer@mer-desktop:~$ cd ~/desktop09:58
FloodBot2mer53: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:58
mer53bash: cd: /home/mer/desktop: No such file or directory09:58
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linxehmer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI etc09:59
mer53ooops! sorry new here,09:59
linxehmer53: please look at what I typed - I said ~/Desktop not ~/desktop09:59
Jimi_Neutral hey hippy, hows you10:00
Primedeathlinxeh: What exactly does the saved space for root do? Does it protect my data? Just to let you know, this is purely storage and I am not using Linux. So it's not like I'll be able to check the filesystem often for errors.10:00
Jimi_Neutrali got clonezilla kinda working in the end10:00
PrimedeathForgive my ignorance please. ;]10:00
kravlinActionParsnip: somehow that worked....10:00
kravlinActionParsnip: how?10:01
mer53damned caps10:01
Jimi_Neutralnow its just saying that the machine it is trying to take the image from the NTS partition is corrupt10:01
ActionParsnipkravlin: what made it work?10:01
kravlinActionParsnip: well it kinda did. the computer now says it's connected. but it doesn't go anywhere10:01
mer53ty linexeh .... I was copying from what was already in the terminal, how do you know when to use capitals or not?10:02
ActionParsnipkravlin: i'm guessing the rmmod / modprobe10:02
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kravlinActionParsnip: it says it's connected after removing interfaces from the config and then rebooting. but now it doesn't ping anything. it's apperently connected but not going anywhere10:02
linxehPrimedeath: its so that when the filesystem gets full the root user still has space to do maintenance. essentially, this is so that if the filesystem gets corrupted (maybe due to a crash) when fsck.extN runs it can find all the bits of lost files and "move" them to a lost+found directory so that the sysadmin can piece together bits of lost files for users etc. if you don't have some space there you may never be able to repair a crashed filesystem 10:03
linxehPrimedeath: certainly we leave it alone on filesystems on our multi-TB arrays10:03
mer53I thionk I checked the repositories.......... but not found anything I could recognise ......tbh Im a windows whore so need to learn how to do thingas differently10:03
PrimedeathIndeed.10:03
linxehmer53: I just know that the desktop folder is called Desktop :) (try "ls" to list files in a directory)10:04
linxehmer53: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_.22the_Ubuntu_way.2210:04
PrimedeathWhat's the likely hood on a crashed filesystem from an average consumer?10:04
ActionParsnipkravlin: can you ping names? can you ping iPs?10:04
kravlinActionParsnip: i couldn't and now it can't do anything again.10:04
kravlinActionParsnip: it discoed and now it's doing the same thing, connecting then immediately disconnecting again.10:04
chilli0ows10:04
ablmfhow to change machine name of ubuntu?  I am using server edition and I do not have X-windows installed.  So I think I have to use command line to change that.10:05
ActionParsnipkravlin: ok now run: dmesg | tail10:05
kravlinActionParsnip: but it's now appearing in ifconfig.10:05
linxehPrimedeath: I've seen it a few times, but mainly during power cuts or kernel panics. at work we see it every now and then, a few times a year probably (again due to crashes / power failures). With ext3 the journal takes some of that pain away - its possible the journal is stored in that area too btw10:05
ActionParsnipkravlin: is it disabled in : sudo lshw -C network10:05
c_nickHi.. If i copied the entire Virtual Box in the home folder can i make it work on the other terminal by just copying the stuff in the latters home folder10:05
chilli0Hello all. I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)10:05
mer53thanks Linexeh, I did checkout the wiki on this but it will take some time for me to get used to using the terminal10:06
kravlini get eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling ts0 then link is down10:06
kravlinthen link is up10:06
kravlinActionParsnip: 2 msg above10:06
hippychick_oof10:06
mer53I capitalised and it did work better, but last line is still file not found?10:06
ActionParsnipkravlin: i'd see what that means, websearch away. i gotta test some citrix WI real quick10:06
Jimi_Neutralhey again hippy10:06
kravlinActionParsnip: it is no longer disabled.10:06
ActionParsnipkravlin: sweet10:07
c_nickActionParsnip: can u help me out with my query10:07
Primedeathlinxeh, hmm.. Kernel panics though? Sorry about bothering you so much about this, but as I am not on Linux and the only kernel I could see panicking is my router which is highly unlikely going to mess up the drive.. Or could the filesystem just randomly mess up? I access the drive via Samba that the router provides.10:07
hippychick_i keep getting disconnected on wired, wireless works perfectly but wired seems to throw fits :S10:07
PrimedeathAgain, sorry, I just like to know everything I can. :]10:07
kravlinActionParsnip: now it says it's connected but i can't ping or anything.10:07
kravlinhippychick_: how so?10:07
c_nickActionParsnip:  If i copied the entire Virtual Box in the home folder (/home/.virtualbox) can i make it work on the some other terminal by just copying the stuff in the latters home folder10:08
Jimi_Neutralhippychick_: I would help you there but im newbier than you10:08
kravlinapperently like that....10:08
Jimi_Neutrallol10:08
hippychick_well it connects up and works but then all of a sudden it will disconnect and i have to reboot, so far the past 2 times its been after launching firefox10:08
linxehPrimedeath: the router is running linux, so has a kernel too. it might kernel panic for the same reasons any linux system does - hardware failures / issues (eg power, driver problems) etc10:08
c_nicksimply by just coping  from one terminal to other10:08
kravlinActionParsnip: in fact. trying to ping something killed the gui right out.10:08
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linxehPrimedeath: the filesystem shouldnt randomly mess up - its used by millions of machines every day with no problem10:09
ActionParsnipc_nick: if you create a copy of the you will duplicate the VM as the virtualbox works on the instance of the .vxd10:09
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chilli0Hello all. I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)10:09
PrimedeathMeh, I am just about to convince myself that I should let it be.. I'd rather have ~70GB lost in freespace than to lose 400GB's or more due to a corrupt fs.10:09
linxehPrimedeath: how is the speed of the transfers to that drive via the router? the last time I tried similar I wanted to kill myself it was so slow :)10:09
Primedeathlinxeh, not too bad. I can still stream 720p, I just have to set it to 3 second buffer.10:10
PrimedeathI have an eSata connection, I just only use it when I transfer something big.10:10
linxehPrimedeath: well its not 70GB lost really, you've got a 931GB drive, of which a portion is lost to formatting anyway (in any filesystem), and then you've lost some more for this superuser portion, and some for the journal.  buy another drive if you run out of space :)10:11
c_nickI have a virtual Box on a terminal here.. its loaded with xp.. now if i copied this folder (/home/.virtualbox) and port it to some random terminal and copied it there then how to get it to work.. can u guide me10:11
bullgard4http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html#Whatis: "UDEV is an replacement of DEVFS in user-space using sysfs and /sbin/hotplug." I cannot find /sbin/hotplug in my Ubuntu 8.04.2. Is this article obsolete?10:11
Primedeathlinxeh, heh.10:11
* linxeh is planing on getting a few 500GB 2.5" disks as they consume around 1/5 of the power of a 3.5" drive10:11
PrimedeathI am getting a 500GB 2.5" for my laptop.10:11
PrimedeathWhen I bought this laptop 2 years ago, I went for the smallest HDD so I could spend the rest of the money on CPU/Graphics upgrade.10:12
linxehheh10:12
Jimi_NeutralLinxeh: please tell me you dont mean SSD drives?10:12
linxehJimi_Neutral: nope10:12
PrimedeathHDD/RAM is easy and cheaper to upgrade yourself.10:12
Jimi_NeutralJesus, i was gonna say you must be loaded10:12
PrimedeathI want SSD. =[10:12
linxehI just want some cheap storage, with backups10:12
PrimedeathI have the money, I should get one. Hmm.10:13
linxehthis is getting OT anyway :)10:13
PrimedeathI could get it Thursday with Amazon Prime Shipping.10:13
Primedeath:]10:13
linxehI dont see the point in SSD yet10:13
* Primedeath loves 3.99 shipping.10:13
PrimedeathIt's new, therefore it's better!10:13
kravlinActionParsnip: gonna keep bugging you if you don't mind. Not sure where to go. google provides nothing of use.10:13
linxehlimited life, overly expensive10:13
Jimi_NeutralWhy not Linxeh10:13
Jimi_Neutraloh ok10:13
Jimi_NeutralI thought you meant from a techincal standpoint10:14
PrimedeathIt's just like World of Warcraft... A level 40 epic item is better than a level 80 green! It's epic therefore it's always better.10:14
ActionParsnipkravlin: i dont know anything else really, maybe you need to compile the latest driver for the device10:14
kravlinActionParsnip: why would i need to do that? the card worked perfectly before i had to reinstall network manager.10:15
PrimedeathIf only they allowed me to use the ZNC here. :| Heh.10:15
PrimedeathO.o10:15
ActionParsnipkravlin: then i have no idea10:15
Jimi_NeutralCan you turn off all the notifications.people leaving and entering and such? Im using Xchat.10:16
kravlinActionParsnip: i'm about ready for a clean install and just going from there at this point. it's kinda rediculous but i don't know how to fix it and nobody knows what's wrong.10:17
lukinforehi! when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I disable this?10:17
* Primedeath bites linxeh.10:17
PrimedeathThanks again. :]10:17
ActionParsnipkravlin: nobody right now, try later in the day10:17
plugin!fr10:18
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr10:18
ActionParsnipkravlin: its not ridiculous whatsoever, the room could be full of new ubuntu users so nobody would know10:18
kravlinActionParsnip: true10:18
kravlinActionParsnip: ok. i'll try later10:18
kravlinActionParsnip: sleeptime now then10:18
ActionParsnipkravlin: peace out10:18
kravlinActionParsnip: thanks for all the help10:19
ActionParsnipnp10:19
lukinforeJimi_Neutral, /set irc_conf_mode 110:19
Jimi_NeutralI just found it lukinfore but ty anyway10:19
lukinforeif not xchat-gnome10:19
Jimi_NeutralOk back to my real problem10:20
PrimedeathBBIAB, reformatting drive to ext3. :]10:20
Jimi_NeutralI get an NTFS is corrupt error when trying to clone a windows machine using Clonezilla from this Ubuntu box. I am running chkdsk /r /f but if it still doesnt work, would anyone have any ideas as to what I could do?10:21
DieseL`majhi, is there a problem with the intrepid repos?10:21
Bambi03We are a group of students from the university of Aalborg, Denmark. We10:21
Bambi03are currently working on our master thesis in computer science. We are10:21
Bambi03examining open source development by employees and volunteers in commercial10:21
Bambi03businesses.10:21
Bambi03As part of that, we would like to conduct a number of interviews with10:21
FloodBot2Bambi03: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:21
Bambi03developers involved with open source development in companies.10:21
DieseL`majBambi03: get oouuuuttt10:22
Bambi03sorry10:22
Bambi03didnt realise10:22
oCean_Bambi03: this is not the appropriate channel. You are welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic channel to discuss this10:22
ActionParsnipBambi03: head to #ubuntu-offtopic as it is not an ubuntu support question10:23
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chilli0I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)10:23
ActionParsnipchilli0: most likely a permissions ting10:24
chilli0mmm10:24
chilli0i removed windows firewall10:24
chilli0and it still hates me10:24
ikoniachilli0: so the printer is on the windows box, correct ?10:25
chilli0sadly yes10:25
ikoniachilli0: ok - what type of printer is it ?10:25
ActionParsnipchilli0: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=14767710:25
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chilli0its a10:25
chilli0Stylus-Photo-R35010:26
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ikoniachilli0: ooh, not aware/heard of that model10:26
ikoniachilli0: windows is sharing it out directly, it's not using a print server or anything like that ?10:26
chilli0its pretty good , was.10:26
chilli0its not no its , i just enabled printer sharing in the printer options10:27
ikoniachilli0: ok, so basiclly the printer is the same as a network share //computername/printer_share_name10:27
chilli0yes10:27
ikoniachilli0: how are you trying to connect to the printer10:27
ikonia(from the ubuntu machine)10:27
chilli0the printer thing in system > admin10:27
ikoniachilli0: ok so using cups, fair enoough10:28
ikoniachilli0: does it see the printer at all ?10:28
chilli0it does10:28
chilli0yes10:28
ikoniachilli0: ok - so walk me through until where the problem is10:28
chilli0untill i print10:29
ikoniawhat happens ?10:29
chilli0and then it does nothing justs ques for a while10:29
chilli0then if i go to settings10:29
chilli0of that printer10:29
ikoniachilli0: do you see it queuing on the windows print queue or the ubuntu local print spool ?10:29
chilli0ubuntu10:29
jelly12gensomeone heard that ubuntu is dropping ecams because vim is better?10:29
ikoniajelly12gen: no10:30
jelly12gen*emacs10:30
ikoniachilli0: so it doesn't appear in the windows print queue ?10:30
chilli0Correct.10:30
ikoniachilli0: ok when you connected using cups, it asks you to select a printer "driver" from the list, what did you select ?10:30
DieseL`majis there a problem with the intrepid repos?10:30
ikoniaDieseL`maj: not that I'm aware of10:31
chilli0i selected the same on as its called10:31
chilli0Stylus-Photo-R35010:31
ikoniachilli0: so there is a native cups driver for it, excellent10:31
chilli0yes10:31
DieseL`majah ok it seems ok now10:31
ikoniachilli0: so lets take a step back and look at a higher level10:31
DieseL`majwas getting bad header files10:31
chilli0hold up 2 secs10:31
WintervenomI hear Emacs is being dropped, is it true?10:31
chilli0just doing one thing10:31
ikoniaWintervenom: you've just asked that as another user10:32
WintervenomO.o  I haven't even been here.10:32
DieseL`majarg10:32
ikoniaWintervenom: I'm not aware of emacs being dropped to answer your question10:32
DieseL`majcant get the msttcorefonts now10:32
DieseL`majbad header line :/10:32
ikoniachilli0: shout when you are ready10:32
chilli0ikonia:  my printer state is  : Idle - unable to connect to CIFS host after ( tryed 3 times)10:32
chilli0i use to get a NT_ACCESS_DENIED or something like that10:33
WintervenomOh, thanks.10:33
ikoniachilli0: that was my next question - your auth model10:33
ikoniachilli0: is the windows PC part of a domain ?10:33
ikoniachilli0: is the printer share granted the correct permissions for printing ?10:33
chilli0it is yes10:34
chilli0other windows computers can print for it10:34
ikoniachilli0: ok - so that means your printer will require some form of authentication from the domain it's part of10:34
ikoniachilli0: which your error message also confims10:35
chilli0IT doesnt no , well all of the other computers didnt use it.10:35
ikoniachilli0: are the other computers part of the domain10:36
chilli0by domain do u mean workgroup? and yes if thats what u mean10:37
ikoniano I don't10:37
ikoniathat's why I asked about domain10:37
ikoniachilli0: so your PC's are part of a work group, not  domain, correct.10:37
ikoniachilli0: so each system is authenticated against local users, not a central domain point ?10:37
chilli0yes10:37
chilli0i think lol10:37
chilli0its just home computers10:38
ikoniachilli0:  you think ?10:38
chilli0so not really set up to be hardcore.10:38
chilli0and yes10:38
chilli0i get it now10:38
ikoniaok -10:38
chilli0yeh its not a network loging kinda thing.10:38
chilli0just normal home comps10:38
ikonianetworking logging ??10:38
ikoniaok - so it's a workgroup10:38
chilli0no network loging10:38
chilli0yes10:38
ikoniachilli0: oh you mean "login" - not "loging"10:39
chilli0yeh my bad10:39
ikoniano no, thats fine, just trying to make sure we are on the same page10:39
ikoniachilli0: so first thing I'd suggest doing is putting your ubuntu machine in the same workgroup as the windows machines.10:39
netrfw10:40
chilli0Done.10:40
ikonianetr: ?10:40
netrhello10:40
ikoniachilli0: ok - so now look at the permissions on the printer share, what are they set to10:40
ikonianetr: hello10:40
ShoopufAnyone been able to get Conky to display on Ubuntu's desktop without having the desktop icons disappear?10:41
ikoniaShoopuf: not used it for a few week, but yes10:41
chilli0i just tryed adding the printer again , and this time i decided to press Verify ( with promp user if required) and it just says : Print share inaccessible . the print share is not accessible10:41
chilli0and how do i look at the perms?10:42
ikoniachilli0: ok - we'll get there10:42
ikoniachilli0: you right click on the printer and look at the share options10:42
ikoniachilli0: lets take a step back first though10:42
chilli0in ubuntu?10:42
chilli0mk10:42
ikoniachilli0: no - on the machine sharing the printer10:42
chilli0k10:42
ikoniachilli0: lets pause and take a step back frist10:42
chilli0k10:42
ikoniachilli0: can the ubuntu machine ping the windows machine sharing the printer10:42
DieseL`majE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?10:42
DieseL`majmake any sense to anyone?10:42
DieseL`maji get this when trying to install msttcorefonts10:43
chilli0let meh see10:43
ikoniaDieseL`maj: normally a problem with that specific repo10:43
ikoniaDieseL`maj: try an sudo apt-get update first10:43
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kosharichilli0 i get that not accessable error on a windows client in vbox accessing a ubuntu share on the guest10:43
DieseL`majFailed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_2.5_all.deb  Bad header line10:43
PerryArmstronghey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser10:43
DieseL`majthats an official ubuntu repo10:43
ikoniaDieseL`maj: did you read what I suggested10:44
DieseL`majyes10:44
ikoniaDieseL`maj: instead of blindly pasting - test what I suggested10:44
DieseL`majive done it10:44
ikoniaDieseL`maj: ok and what did it say10:44
chilli0Yes i can ikonia10:44
DieseL`majit was succesful10:44
mer53Hi again ...... ok Ive gone through synaptic Package manager, its like a download pool of software yeah?, and found some more drivers for my hardware but it doesnt actually support my card 7500, oldest is 8500, is this why it doesnt show in my hardware manager window?10:44
ikoniachilli0: so you can %100 ping the windows maching with the printer attatched from the ubuntu machine ?10:44
Shoopufikonia: ok, well, i'll keep playin with the config file then :) thanks10:44
ikoniaDieseL`maj: now retry the install, same error ?10:45
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PerryArmstronghey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser10:46
oCean_!away > umar10:46
ubottuumar, please see my private message10:46
chilli0ill see if i get 100%10:47
chilli00% loss10:47
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ikoniachilli0: ok, thats a great start10:47
ikoniachilli0: the next thing I would do is setup a physical network share on the same windows PC, and see if the ubuntu machine can mount it over samba - as that will be your workgroup samba/cifs test removing cups from the situation as a possibly issue10:48
chilli0k10:48
BoltClockhi, im unable to boot my ubuntu install because grub is missing (dont ask), and im trying to use a live cd to access my svn repo inside my ubuntu partition10:48
chilli0i shall do10:48
umaroCean_ and ubottu, ok, thanks!10:48
umar!away > umar10:48
ubottuumar, please see my private message10:48
BoltClocki get "svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'"10:48
chilli0i will statrt it now10:48
L3dPlatedLinuxok I am having a issue I installed moblock and when I try to start it cant seem to find blocklistcontrol.log and would like me to point to it but there isnt one10:48
kholerabbiwhere does "Archive Mounter" mount the archives?10:49
kholerabbiI'm trying o get winecfg to mount it..10:49
DieseL`majikonia: yes same error10:49
ikoniaBoltClock why not just fix grub10:49
chilli0ikonia:  im just trying on this in the meanwhile , im gonna plug the printer into a diffrent computer see if it works thoen10:49
PerryArmstronghey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser10:50
ikoniachilli0: I'd forget swapping the printer around, your introducing varibles that are not needed10:50
mer53HI I know my issues are very noobish but it would be nice to be acknowledged .........just a little10:50
ikoniamer53: what do you want ?10:50
BoltClockikonia: not yet, ill need to settle my borked windows disk and reinstall before i regrub my computer10:50
ActionParsnipkholerabbi: is it for mounting iso files?10:50
ikoniamer53: new users are more than welcome, easy questions are gret10:50
BoltClockikonia: which i am unable to do right now because the disk isnt playing nice10:50
ActionParsnipmer53: have you asked your question?10:50
chilli0okie ikonia , but what if that works?10:51
kholerabbiActionParsnip: ah, duh. I don't need to -- wine can read any dir as a cdrom..... no just files.10:51
ActionParsnipkholerabbi: quit with the duh crap10:51
oCean_DieseL`maj: Can you pastebin the apt-get update?10:51
PerryArmstronghey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser10:51
mer53Id like to know why I cant get any drivers for my radeon 7500, dowloading doesnt work as they will not install, going to the repository doesnt work as I update and install from spm but I still see no drivers for my hardware in my hardware manager window?? Im very confused10:52
ActionParsnipkholerabbi: can you please expand on your issue a little, i am unfamiliar with archive mounter10:52
amigo_richmer53: Which drivers are you trying to use?10:52
sharktoothmer53 have u tried to directly dl from ati?10:52
PerryArmstrongikonia; i suppose my question is very easy10:53
ActionParsnipmer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver10:53
ShoopufPerryArmstrong: Is it just a blank gray button or does it say someting on the button?10:53
PerryArmstrongShoopuf; blank grey button10:53
elkymer53, the only thing i can see from you is talking about a card. you didnt specify what type of card you're talking about10:54
beniwtvHi all... I have some trouble with ubuntu-vm-builder. I try to create a vm but I get permission denied, even when running as root. Chmodding to 777 works, but I'd rather not do this. (Now it's 755). Does ubuntu-vm-builder change to another user while executing?10:54
Jimi_Neutrali am right in thinking that if clonezilla has taken an image and there are 11 files totalling 51.85KB then it has not worked properly right?10:54
mer53i tried the ati ones and although I got the terminal to work with alien it still couldnt find the file??? I went through the repository and found a file with flgrx in it (appears to be ati gfx mark) and updated10:54
coutts99morning all10:54
mer53but hardware manger doesnt see any drivers10:55
ActionParsnipmer53: follow that guide and you should strike gold10:55
mer53so my rig is working but with no 3d acceleration so .......which guide Action parsnip?10:56
ActionParsnipmer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver10:56
kholerabbiActionParsnip: sorry. it was more an 'ah-ha!' 'eureka!' more lightly mad chuckle.. what it means to you is that I have solved my problem. And thank you.10:56
ActionParsnipkholerabbi: oic, sweet :D10:56
c_nickActionParsnip: Consider 2 VB's now if i cut-copy-pasted the stuff from (/home/.virtualbox/  pc1) to (/home/.virtualbox/  pc2) Folder then is there a chance it will work properly10:56
PerryArmstrongShoopuf; ny idea10:56
ActionParsnipc_nick: on another system?10:56
kholerabbi:D10:56
c_nickActionParsnip: Yes10:57
ActionParsnipc_nick: you will most likely need to chmod and chown the entire folder to the user on the other system but i dont see why it wouldnt work, should be fine10:57
BoltClockcan anyone help?10:58
c_nickIts just like copying from one folder to another10:58
ShoopufPerryArmstrong: Sorry I have never seen that problem before10:58
ActionParsnipc_nick: if its on a different system the user intending to use it may not have access10:58
PerryArmstrongShoopuf; want me upload the image??10:58
lnghi! how to play aac?10:58
c_nickaccess to wht ?10:58
ShoopufPerryArmstrong: sure10:59
c_nickI am just cut copy pasting the stuff from /home/.VB to that pc's /home/.VB thats all...10:59
ActionParsnipc_nick: well it will have a different owner so that will need setting for the new system. something like: sudo chown -R $USER /path/to/.virtualbox    will fix it nice10:59
BoltClockhi, im unable to boot my ubuntu install because grub is missing (dont ask), and im trying to use a live cd to co from my svn repo inside my ubuntu partition, but i get "svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'", svn --version says 1.4.610:59
stevem_Hi, I'm thinking of trying Ubuntu again - haven't for a few years now - however is there an automatic way I can "de-brand" it... for example the Gnome foot being a ubuntu logo kinda annoys me and disrespects the gnome project.11:00
PerryArmstrongShoopuf; can you tell me where to upload..dont remember the site name11:00
ActionParsnipstevem_: the gnome foot, is the gnome logo, the ubuntu logo is completely different11:00
stevem_ActionParsnip, I already know that11:00
c_nickoho k11:01
ActionParsnipstevem_: you could change the icon for it I guess11:01
DieseL`majoCean_: got a pastbin link for me?11:01
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DieseL`majactual paste bin tells me i'm pasing spam -_-11:01
DieseL`maj*pasting11:01
stevem_ActionParsnip, I'm looking for something that does it all... I don't want to go hunting for all the changes Ubuntu made in the packages for the purposes of 'marketting'11:01
c_nickThanks ActionParsnip11:01
ActionParsnipstevem_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53324711:01
c_nickI will try this tomorrow.. if i encounter anything will get back to you11:01
stevem_ActionParsnip, Thats just one example tho11:02
ActionParsnipstevem_: i think you are worrying too much about it11:02
ActionParsnipstevem_: i'm sure if the gnome team felt disrespected they would have said something to the devs11:03
stevem_ActionParsnip, I don't like how Ubuntu brands the entire system and everything in it as Ubuntu... they never say what they fork from.. they barely even say it's GNU/Linux these days11:03
ActionParsnipstevem_: true11:03
stevem_it's just *sparkle* Ubuntu11:03
ActionParsnipstevem_: a lot of users think Ubuntu IS linux and also dont know of other distros which is kinda sad11:04
stevem_ActionParsnip, if Ubuntu messes up in the future it could hinder Linux uptake in general on desktops... theres too much of a 'fashion' statement about Ubuntu11:05
koshariActionParsnip i think very few users would assume that ubuntu was the sole linux dizzy11:05
stevem_And people go off fashions quickly11:05
ActionParsnipkoshari: you'd be suprised11:05
ActionParsnipkoshari: "gentoo... whats that" they cry11:06
mer53TY guys that guide does look a whole lot closer to getting 3d rendering on my ubuntu system, however ..... it looks like I am going to be editing the driver itself? is this correct?11:06
elkykoshari, it's true actually. new users who come in through ubuntu do assume it's the only one11:06
* ITguru wonders why someone who uses Ubuntu may think it's the only linux distro?11:06
stevem_I'm a hard core Debian user myself, but even Lenny is lagging (stable but lagging already!) I want Ubuntu for it's tweaks, suggested packages, and setup11:06
kosharielky i dont doubt that , but the majority? cmon,11:06
stevem_Not for it's looks or logos11:06
ITgurueven windows users know that there are other versions of windows11:06
Myrtti!offtopic11:06
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!11:06
stevem_ITguru, different editions yes, just like theres kubuntu/edubuntu/xubuntu11:07
elkykoshari, do expos and stuff and have a choice of two distros. 'what's that one?' 'fedora' 'is it a different ubuntu?'11:07
ITguruSorry ubottu ( Myrtti )11:07
ActionParsnipstevem_: i use it as its easy and i want an easy life, i have other distros to do other stuff but i work with pcs so the last thing i want when i finish work is more computer issues11:07
PerryArmstrongShoopuf; http://imagebin.ca/view/ZKqRpT.html11:07
ITgurufedora is so not ubuntu! lol11:07
stevem_ActionParsnip, yeah I know what you mean thats the argument all my friends use too... while I sit there tweaking Debian or backporting a package11:08
joetheoddisn't gentoo that different ubuntu thing too?11:08
ActionParsnipjoetheodd: hehe11:08
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kosharithe most linux users that wouldnt even know they are using linux would likely be TTL users11:09
dukhuCan some one know how can I get windows 6.1 for my dopod 838pro and installation procedure. I saw some preview from youtube that it will work like htc touch pro or touch diamond. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsSNzYftjZs11:09
stevem_joetheodd, Gentoo has a completely different lineage to Ubuntu11:09
* joetheodd wants to run Ubuntu with Hurd instead of Linux just to show off. And then go back to Linux.11:09
joetheoddstevem_, sarcasm doesn't work on the internet. :(11:09
stevem_joetheodd, lol :P ok11:09
stevem_Theres Debian GNU/Hurd if you want to try it11:09
elkyjoetheodd, it does if you enclose it in the proper syntax11:09
stevem_It'll accept Ubuntu packages (mostly) lol11:10
joetheoddAh man, that's too easy. :P11:10
elkyanyway, this is totally non-support. #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat11:10
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stevem_Anyway back to my original point... a nice unbranded (or maybe more subtily branded) ubuntu would be nice11:11
stevem_oops11:11
stevem_I don't want a 'Ubuntu' experience11:11
joetheoddstevem_, like how Slackware (only other distro I've used) doesn't scream slackware left and right? It's simply Linux?11:12
stevem_in the form of logos and brown and orange and eerrrr11:12
stevem_joetheodd, yeah11:12
movedxCrash Bang no good?11:12
Jimi_Neutralhow do i delete things from my home folder? it says permission denied11:12
movedxJimi_Neutral: Who are the files owned by?11:12
kosharistevem get recreator and package your own then11:12
Jimi_Neutralthey are failed images from clonezilla that i am trying to get working11:13
stevem_koshari, a recreator built for ubuntu?11:13
ShoopufPerryArmstrong: I've never seen somethin' like that before... Could it be some Firefox addon?11:13
stevem_Jimi_Neutral, you've been using sudo I'm guessing?11:13
Jimi_Neutralyes11:13
stevem_they'll be owned by root11:13
movedxJimi_Neutral: sudo rm <files>11:13
stevem_use sudo to delete them too11:13
Jimi_Neutralin the gui?11:13
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movedxin a console11:13
stevem_Jimi_Neutral, no from the terminal11:13
stevem_movedx,  :D11:13
Jimi_Neutralthats annoying lol11:14
joetheoddThis channel is so helpful :).11:14
Jimi_Neutralty :)11:14
oCean_!away > mafsi11:14
ubottumafsi, please see my private message11:14
movedxHmm, has emacs always had an X86 interface or is there a version of it that runs in the terminal?11:14
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: ould run: gksudo nautilus and delete it there, why is terminal "annoying"11:14
stevem_I'll go back to Debian anyway, still was nice speaking with you folks11:14
stevem_I'll keep on backporting :D11:14
joetheoddmovedx, X11? 80x86 is a processor.11:14
joetheoddmovedx, and I'm not sure. :P11:15
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: the terminal offers a billion times more power than the gui11:15
movedxjoakim-: Sorry X11 yes. Hmm ok.11:15
user01should i just keep running hardy or upgrade to intrepid and later to jaunty on my laptop?11:15
joetheodduser01, i'd recommend intrepid. It's got all the latest goodies.11:15
grobda24Hello. Anyone any idea why my pulseaudio stops playback when I switch to a virtual console outside of X ?11:15
Jimi_Neutralbecause i justw ant to right click and delete the file....not type out the long names and that11:15
user01joetheodd, do i have to do a complete reinstall?11:16
joetheoddJimi_Neutral, under normal circumstances (a file wasn't created by root), that's what you can usually do.11:16
Jimi_Neutralif i want to delete a file called 2009-03-31-12-img from and images fodler within home, what would i type11:16
joetheodduser01, nope. one sec and I'll find the instructions on the wiki11:16
JScoobyCedHi. just bought a notebook compaq CQ, installed 8.10 (32bits and 64bits)..... I got the neverending "django-drum" problem11:17
JScoobyCedcompaq CQ4011:17
joetheoddJimi_Neutral, the command 'rm' is remove. It's ' rm filename ', but you need to do it as superuser. The full command is: sudo rm 2009-03-31-12-img11:17
BoltClockoh, ive solved my problem, enabled backports and upgraded svn to 1.5.111:17
user01i thought lts meant it would be stable and i wouldnt have to worry about upgrading until 201111:17
Jimi_Neutralok ty and if there is more than one its just a space and then the next file name?11:18
joetheodduser01, lts is stable until 2011. You don't -need- to upgrade, it's strictly optional.11:18
user01joetheodd, so what am i missing?11:18
chilli0ikonia:  sorry dad said to get off. but im allowed back now11:18
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joetheodduser01, basically new software added to ubuntu overall, and updates to old programs. Security stuff is always added in old versions, so you don't have to worry about that.11:19
oCean_!away > mafsi11:19
ubottumafsi, please see my private message11:19
koshariJimi_Neutral or an asterisk but BE CAREFULL as it will delete all the files in the dir11:19
joetheodduser01, basically nice stuff, but nothing important.11:19
UKGentIf it was MS you would not need to upgrade for the next six years - if their past development cycle is anything to go by   lol11:19
jtajiuser01: stability has little to do with it, it's the length of time that updates are provided, I don't mind updating every 6 months or so on a laptop11:19
jtajiuser01: err, upgrading every 6 months or so11:19
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PerryArmstrongcan anyone tell me how to avoid those grey buttons on http://imagebin.ca/view/ZKqRpT.html11:19
Jimi_NeutralIt says cannot delete file, no such file or directory11:19
joetheodduser01, to upgrade at any time, hit alt+f2 (to open the run box) and type 'update-manager -d'11:20
chilli0ikonia: im getting , Connection Failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED11:20
joetheoddwait, is intrepid an lts?11:20
user01jtaji, but it is safe now to just do an upgrade?  earlier versions of ubuntu didnt upgrade so cleanly11:20
jtajiuser01: since hardy I've experienced all flawless upgrades11:20
koshariJimi_Neutral: then you have spelt it wrong, try using tab to autocomplete11:20
chilli0brb11:20
user01jtaji, that would be 1 upgrade? :)11:21
joetheoddI think the problem was switching from XFree86 to X11, but I could be 100% wrong. Either way, I think it's resolved now.11:21
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: What is is supposed to be? Flash?11:21
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; yes11:21
jtajiuser01: no sorry, I meant many machines11:21
dAnjouhow can i create and edit a file which has the same name as a folder in the same directory via console?11:21
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: Under about:plugins do you see your flash version?11:21
Extendi recently added a ATI VGA to my machine , i didn't do anything else , i'm having a problem with screensaver , lock screen button is not working , i tried to remove and re-install gnome-screensaver and related applications but with no luck any help!!!?11:22
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jtajiuser01: 8.04 to 8.10 was smooth in every case11:22
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oCean_!away > mafsi11:22
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; yes shockwave11:22
Jimi_Neutralit is spelt correctly.....do i not have to put the path in?11:22
joetheoddoCean_, he's probably actually away. Paging him over and over won't change anything.11:23
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: What version? Do other flash sites work?11:23
KoolDlshw -C display gives "*-display:0 UNCLAIMED" .How do i solve that??11:23
mafsijoetheodd: is about me?11:23
joetheoddJimi_Neutral, see what folder you're in on the left of the command line. type 'ls' to LiSt off the files in the directory.11:23
joetheoddmafsi, do you have an away message on?11:24
mafsijoetheodd: i installed a plugin for xchat and now i have set it to silent11:24
oCean_mafsi: thanks11:24
joetheoddmafsi, okay. I was just wondering why he sent that to you like 3 or 4 times :P11:24
nightmareshare shell ubutun at nightmarevn.com11:25
mafsibut i still got "`!away" from oCean_11:25
mafsibut no private message this time11:25
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; 9.0 r100   when i click the button it does work...but the video buffering seems to be too slow when compared with other browsers11:25
Jimi_Neutraldesktop music private templates documetns images pictures public videos11:25
Jimi_Neutralthe files are in home/images11:26
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: What Ubuntu version are you running? 32 bit / 64 bit?11:26
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; i also have vlc plugin and totem plugin11:26
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; 3211:26
user01wow it has to download 1.5 GB to upgrade11:26
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; i faced the same problem with 64 bit11:26
chilli0mkback11:26
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; but right now i m on 3211:27
chilli0ikonia:  are ya there?11:27
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: I also wonder why you've got 9, what version are you running? 8.04 / 8.10?11:27
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; 8.04..so what is the problem with 911:28
jtajiJimi_Neutral: so from where you are now you can use: sudo rm images/2009-03-31-12-img11:28
UKGentor use thunar !11:28
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: 9 had it's share of problems on Linux, 10 seems to be better... Maybe you could try that and see if you have the same issues.11:29
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; how do i get 10..can i directly upgrade it11:30
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: Uninstall 9 by removing flashplugin-nonfree, then go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/, select Linux, then .deb (Ubuntu) and install via double-click11:31
JScoobyCedHi... anybody with help about sound drivers ... I have the drum sound playing and never ending... I am on 8.10 amd_x64 (same pb on i686)11:31
joetheoddThis is kind of a broad question.. if I install a TV card into a box.. like the kind with the coaxial plugs on it, is there a way to set the box up to record on schedule?11:32
JScoobyCedit seems ok when I first install, then I do the live update (247 MB) then the drum won't stop11:32
BuFFwhere is wimrc file by default located?11:32
clearscreenBuFF: probably ~/.wimrc11:33
clearscreenbut you could try a "sudo apt-get install locate && sudo updatedb && locate .wimrc"11:33
JoeMamahow can I check if my ide cdrom is using DMA? its reading as a scsi device not an IDE11:34
ActionParsnipor: sudo find / -name .wimrc11:34
ikoniachilli0: yes, I am now11:36
administrator__how do i find out the name of my machine on LAN?11:36
nociveBuFF: /etc/vim/vimrc for all users and ~/.vimrc for user specific11:36
chilli0k11:36
ikoniaadministrator__: hostname will show you your currnet machine name11:36
TyrathI accidently stuffed up alsa when i ran sudo alsa force-reload in an attempt to get my microphone working again after the latest intrepid updates. Is there any way I can get my sound back?11:36
ActionParsnipJoeMama: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom11:36
ml__Hello. I am trying to format an external WD passport drive to NTFS, however, gparted from within Ubuntu won't do it. I know I can use a gparted live cd. But Is there a way to do it from within Ubuntu, just out of curiosity.?11:37
ActionParsnipJoeMama: all new drives have IDE11:37
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; i m downloading it...how do i install it11:37
administrator__do u mean the user account name? right now it is administrator11:37
beniwtvPerryArmstrong: Just double-click the downloaded .deb file11:37
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>11:37
administrator__OPh i got it. u mean run hostname on terminal?11:38
nociveml__: u need to unmount the volume to format it11:38
PerryArmstrongbeniwtv; thnk you11:38
BuFFclearscreen, ActiocParship, novice: thanks11:38
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: if it moans about depenancys run: sudo apt-get -f install11:38
administrator__can't i change this to something meaningful?11:38
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ActionParsnipJoeMama: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/enabling-dma-in-ubuntu-363780/11:38
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; thank you11:38
ml__nocive, I don't believe it is mounted. It is a new drive no partion tables or anything.11:39
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PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; do you have another username with ActionParsnip111:39
Tyrathactually I take that back11:39
Tyrathmy sound is still working11:39
Tyrathit just shows as mute11:39
Tyrathreally bizarre11:39
Tyrathif someone could help me fix my mic issue that would be great11:39
nociveml__: then u need to fdisk /dev/drive and create the partition table to format11:39
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: its because im logged in on another pc, so pidgin changes the name slightly11:40
nociveml__: but as far as I know, WD passport disks come formatted from factory with software from western digital11:40
KnatI just finished setting up my ubuntu server, I installed subversion on it, but it always asks me for my username and password on each svn command, every other distro i have used it saves it after the first time i give it, how can i get it to store the username and passord and or key11:40
Tyrathok youtube has flipped upside down11:41
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; i am trying to find out a messenger which allows voice chat for yahoo and gtalk accounts11:41
Tyrathdoes this happen for everyone or just me?11:41
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: gyache can do voice on yahoo11:41
ml__nocive, yeah they usually come in fat32. my friend wiped/ zeroed it out.11:41
nociveTyrath: empathy?11:41
Tyrathnocive: isthat a prog?11:42
ActionParsnip!info empathy11:42
ubottuempathy (source: empathy): High-level library and user-interface for Telepathy. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.24.1-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 262 kB, installed size 732 kB11:42
nociveml__: then first u need to create the partition table in order to format it. gparted should be able to handle that11:42
nociveTyrath: yup11:42
Tyrathoh wait11:42
Jimi_Neutralstill said no such file or directory11:42
Tyrathnah fixed it11:42
Tyrathit was the new layout11:42
Tyrathit was doing strange things11:42
FloodBot2Tyrath: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:43
Tyrathnot an issue on my comp11:43
JoeMamaim not seeing anything in that list that tells me how to see if DMA is enabled11:43
nociveTyrath: not sure if it does what u need, but check it out. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-voice-chat-with-google-talk-user-using-empathy.html11:43
JoeMamamy cdrom IS listed as a scsi device but I dont know how to check the DMA settings11:43
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; what about gtalk??11:43
ActionParsnipJoeMama: if you use the hdparm command it will set it11:43
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: no idea, ive never used it11:44
sarmisakJoeMama: is it a SATA drive?11:44
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; gyache isn't in the repos11:44
Tyrathnocive: thanks for the help. but my problem is more driver related. i think it's an alsa issue11:44
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49873311:44
JoeMamanever mind thank you11:45
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: i know, its needs download ing and maybe compileing11:45
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; okk thank you...i hope its good enough11:45
administrator__how do i change my system's name on LAN11:45
Jimi_Neutraldo i have to change directory or something?11:46
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: is youor linux 32bit?11:46
JoeMama[    4.976313] ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202N, SB01, max UDMA/6611:46
JoeMama[    4.976326] ata5: nv_mode_filter: 0x1f39f&0x701f->0x701f, BIOS=0x7000 (0xc0000000) ACPI=0x701f (60:900:0x11)11:46
JoeMama[    4.992240] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/3311:46
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; 32bit11:47
JoeMamathank you VERY much guys.11:47
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: ive found a gutsy deb you could try.not making any promises, http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/2/9/1749988/gyachi_1.1.0-1_i386_gutsy.deb11:47
JoeMamaim really surprised that centos doesn't do this by default, but damn good job devs11:47
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`ph8hi everyone, i'm having a weird error - i've lost my top gnome toolbar! gnome-panel is running and i've still got the taskbar/desktop changer at the bottom - any idea how i can get it back?11:51
Guest61741anyone help me to give some answers about linux development11:51
nocive`ph8: add a new panel :)11:52
`ph8nocive, but where do i go to add said panel?11:52
MyrttiGuest61741: you're not asking anything?11:52
nocive`ph8: right click on the bottom panel and add a new one11:52
Guest61741just start now11:52
`ph8aha!11:52
`ph8so i have a panel11:53
`ph8just have to figure out how to add the default menus/clock etc back11:53
Guest61741how can i contribute in ubuntu development11:53
nocive`ph8: no luck there... if u lost the panel it's possible that your config was messed up. u have to had everything by hand11:53
Guest61741i mail to india team but i dont get any response11:54
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; when i tried to install gyachi...it says errors found while trying to install11:54
SoS11how can I auto-run some .sh files when I start a server???11:54
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: as i said,it is a gutsy deb but worth a try, you will have to compile it11:55
ActionParsnip!bum | SoS1111:55
ubottuSoS11: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto11:55
Jimi_Neutralah i got it, i needed to use sudo rm -r  and put the [path in single quotes11:55
KoolDwhat driver should i download for Mobile GM965/GL96011:55
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; no idea how to compile it11:55
KoolD*Intel Mobile GM965/GL96011:56
ActionParsnip!compile | PerryArmstrong11:56
ubottuPerryArmstrong: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)11:56
`ph8nocive, many thanks, added things back now11:56
SoS11ActionParsnip, but wont adding those files in /etc/rc.local make them run as root?11:56
nocive`ph8: np ;)11:57
nocive`ph8: u can make a backup of your current panel layout. just make a copy of the dir ~/.gconf/apps/panel11:58
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nocive`ph8: there's also a handy python utility that allows you to save different panel layouts and restore them. u could also use  that for backing up your panels11:59
HumpBackHello. I'm runing jaunty and I'm experiency a strange issue with keyboard. In Linux all goes ok, but if i start windows inside vmware the arrow keys are not working. Up does nothing and down opens the windows start menu.11:59
ActionParsnipSoS11: indeed, if you want them running when the user logs in check11:59
ActionParsnip!startup11:59
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot11:59
SoS11!boot12:00
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:00
pretender_in storage device manager what does the remove button do12:01
ActionParsnippretender_: i'd imagine it unmounts the partition12:03
movedxCan anyone remember the name of that music player that runs inside of the terminal?12:06
pretender_there is a unmount button but when i use that it un mounts it then appears next boot12:06
mgolischmovedx: moc?12:07
FloodBot2!netsplit12:08
movedxmgolisch: yes! that's it. cheers12:08
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:08
b3rz3rk3rnetsplit!!!! :D12:08
ActionParsnipmovedx: mplayer12:08
b3rz3rk3rchanserv give ops to bot and not me... lame12:09
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; what type of file is that gyache you provided...i need to know the extension so that i can compile it12:10
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; is it just .deb..but it appears to be zip12:10
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: dpkg -i <deb name>12:10
ActionParsnipPerryArmstrong: if you go to the gyache site and get the source it will be a tar.gz no doubt and you will need  ta zxvf <file>12:11
PerryArmstrongActionParsnip; you provided me a link of gyachi belonging to gutsy12:12
ActionParsnipthen that is a deb12:12
axelpaxelI have a problem. I can't create/format/do-anything-at-all with my external hdd in Gparted, I get the error "Cannot read the contents of this filesystem". I've tried PartitionMagic in Win, but it only gives me errors too.12:12
comicinker1how can I make use of a multicore during ./configure && make ?12:12
ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: what filesystem are they?12:13
axelpaxelActionParsnip: NTFS12:13
ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: are yuo mounting with ntfs-3g?12:15
axelpaxelActionParsnip: I'm not sure, how do I check that? I'm just plugging the drive in, and Hardy does it's magic, hehe12:15
ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: run mount in terminal12:16
ActionParsnipit will say how its mounted, you could manually mount it with better options12:16
ActionParsnip!ntfs-3g12:16
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions12:16
axelpaxelThis is the one: "/dev/sdb1 on /media/WD Elements Uber type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)12:18
axelpaxel"12:18
ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: i would manually mount it with better options, i would make sure it has been cleanly removed from a windows system too12:19
axelpaxelI just removed it cleanly from a windows system. How do I mount it with better options then?12:20
axelpaxelActionParsnip: I have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed, if I need any of those do get the job done12:21
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ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: good stuff12:25
ActionParsnipaxelpaxel: look at the ntfs-3g factoid link and it will help12:25
axelpaxelAlright, I'll look into that. Thank you for the help:)12:26
ShoopufIs it OK for my hard disk/computer if I'm running Ubuntu and playing MP3s from a NTFS partition? I'm paranoid that they don't mingle well together.12:28
ShoopufUbuntu is on an EXT3 partition, and my music is on an external USB drive that is NTFS12:28
ActionParsnipShoopuf: sure, no worries at all12:28
ShoopufActionParsnip: ok thanks :)12:29
ActionParsnipShoopuf: the kernel can read ntfs natively but needs extra functionality to write to it (and the write is mildly limited)12:29
ShoopufI'm trying to copy a file to an EXT3 partition I made with GParted... When I try to copy a file to it it says "Permission denied" ... I tried checking the drive's Properties and it said that "The permissions of "Home" could not be determined." (Home is the name of the partition)12:31
needhelpHello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?12:32
ikoniaShoopuf: did you create the partition on a disk that is mounted already ?12:32
ikoniaShoopuf: have you put a file system on the partition ?12:32
jribShoopuf: see if you can check the permissions if you use sudo too12:32
utakbiyahi everyone! how can you save a screen when in 3D box? what key will you press? thanks in advance...im just new in ubuntu12:33
ShoopufHmm, I might have created it while it was mounted... I remember having to fool around with it a lot before it finally formatted to EXT3.12:33
ikoniaShoopuf: if it's created while mounted you'll need to re-read the TOC on the disk12:34
lockdutakbiya: print screen key12:35
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ShoopufI did a "ls -al" in the /media directory and it says that that partition is "drwxr-xr-x" ... Looks like I just gotta turn on write.. Maybe12:36
lockdutakbiya: hmm, apparently that doesn't work. you might have to set it up as a timer12:36
ikoniaShoopuf: it's write for the owner already12:36
quizmehow do i undo a rm -rf *  ?12:38
quizmeam i fucked/12:38
jribquizme: restore from your backups12:38
bullgard4 "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." What is the "Device Manager" for my sound hardware in Ubuntu 8.04?12:38
jrib!recover | quizme12:38
ubottuquizme: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:38
needhelpHello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp videofiles to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?12:39
quizmethnx12:39
bullgard4 "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." Welches Programm ist der "Device Manager" für meine ardware in Ubuntu 8.04?12:40
nikoshello, how can i mount a usb flash fisk>12:41
nikosubuntu doesnt automatically mount it when iam sticking it in12:41
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SPF!de | bullgard412:42
ubottubullgard4: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.12:42
nikos?12:43
SPFnikos: does the usb stick show up in /var/log/messages when you plug it in?12:44
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bullgard4SPF: Note carefully: I have put here an English question. Did you anser it?12:46
bullgard4SPF: Note carefully: I have put here an English question. Did you answer it?12:46
ussainehello12:47
illmortalCan anyone assist me in getting my wireless card to work? Ubuntu 8.10 recognizes my network card but I need to install the windows wireless drivers, but i have no internet connectivity12:47
SPFbullgard4: ah yes, now I see it. I don't know where it's located, sorry12:48
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illmortalCan anyone assist me in getting my wireless card to work? Ubuntu 8.10 recognizes my network card but I need to install the windows wireless drivers, but i have no internet connectivity12:50
s3r3n1t7!wireless | illmortal12:51
ubottuillmortal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:51
naftilos76Hi guys, if i have 4GBs of RAM which kernel should i install from the repos in order for all 4GBs to be available?????????12:51
naftilos76PAE?12:52
naftilos76I don't see any PAE!12:52
Akio#ubuntu12:52
AkioHello?12:52
grawityHi Akio.12:53
AkioHey12:53
AkioI just finished installing Ubuntu12:53
AkioI decided to Dual Boot it with Vista12:53
AntiNekoHey, having trouble chaning the default sound source.12:53
frybyehi - when trying to use gparted to fomat a sdhc drive that had bet setup as a boot-usb-stick I get a fault report.. what special method do I need to use??12:54
AkioI was wondering if some of you guys might have some suggestions of good programs I should install? Also, I was hoping someone could tell me how to get the Lucidia Calligraphy font on Ubuntu12:54
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AntiNekoAkio: Amarok music player!12:55
clearscreenAkio: open synaptic, plenty of applications to choose from12:55
AkioThanks. I looked through the add/remove program, but I don't know what would be useful yet12:56
clearscreenWhat's useful is whatever YOU are going to use :P12:56
grawityAkio: AdBlockPlus (if you use Firefox). A music player (Rhythmbox, Banshee, AmaroK). And... what programs you used most before Ubuntu?12:56
clearscreenthere's decriptions with every software package in synaptic12:57
AntiNekoAkio: Is Lucidia Calligraphy integradet in Vista?12:57
AkioIn the ultimate version, yes12:57
ravenhi - is it possible to import AVIS from CANON CAM with THM Files or perhaps to write the time-dates into the video-tags?12:57
AntiNekoAkio: You can find your Vista-files by going to My Computer -> Filesystem -> host12:57
grawityclearscreen: Ubuntu's "Add/remove programs" is a little easier than Synaptic, i think...12:57
AkioYeah, but can I install them directly from my Vista directory12:57
AkioBrb12:57
sarmisakraven: I have imported AVIs before, but you might need a IEEE1394 connection, I don't recall it well12:58
clearscreengrawity: almost the same thing :P12:58
AntiNekoAkio: Copy whatever font you want to install into Ubuntu into usr -> share -> (press CTRL+H to show hidden files) fonts -> truetype. Just put them in there as far as I know12:58
AkioThank you12:59
AntiNekoAkio: You're welcome! What music player do you use in Vista?12:59
AkioI used Windows Media Player. I installed the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack13:00
enigmahi how to check my graphics card in console? I have integrated intel card13:00
coincoin161hi can ask you a TeX question cause nobody answering me at #latex : In pure TeX is there a equivalent of \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} so that TeX will recognize my accents correctly ?13:00
AntiNekoenigma: Try lspci13:01
lepassiveHi I don't find packages in synaptic! though i can install it from apt-get directly ??13:01
ActionParsnipenigma: lspci | grep -i vga13:01
opmdsomeone has installed slackware sometimes?13:01
ActionParsniplepassive: ive seen this asked a lot, no idea13:01
ActionParsnipopmd: once, didnt like it13:01
lepassiveActionParsnip, I had a problem with my previous installation, however, i got / formated and installed ubuntu 8.04 and disto upgrade it to 8.1013:02
chenzhong终于加入了13:02
sarmisaklepassive: maybe you should enable 3rd party software?13:02
tdihttp://www.postgresql.fr/13:02
needhelpHello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp videofiles to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?13:02
sarmisak!cn | chenzhong13:02
ubottuchenzhong: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:02
Man_of_Waxhi all13:02
Man_of_Waxi'm tryning to install ubuntu 8.10 on my mactel (october relese) but refit can't find ubuntu cdrom13:02
PrimedeathWhich makes a better external storage solution, NTFS / ext2 / ext3? It's most likely be connected to my router.. Would EXT3 make more sense? Last time I had it EXT3 I couldn't mount it in WinXP (With IFS)13:02
Man_of_Waxubuntu cdrom works fine in my desktop computer13:02
azlon1is there any software that will compare the EXIF timestamp on my photos with my GPS tracking file and geocode my photos for me?13:03
lepassivesarmisak, I got http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu in 3rd party tab already13:03
ActionParsnipMan_of_Wax: have you configured your system to boot cd and no other media13:03
Man_of_WaxActionParsnip: refit don't do this automatically?13:04
Man_of_Waxhow can I set my mac to boot from cd?13:04
opmd<ActionParsnip> your opinion?13:04
bullgard4 "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." What is the "Device Manager" for my sound hardware in Ubuntu 8.04?13:05
AkioExcuse me, but why do I not have permissions in the usr folder?13:05
sarmisaklepassive: strange, it should install any package then13:05
Peter[i]Does anybody know a wireframe application for linux?13:05
ActionParsnipMan_of_Wax: i couldnt say I dont use it13:05
ActionParsnipopmd: of what?13:05
sarmisaklepassive: maybe some other problem about the repos13:05
opmdof slackware ,man13:06
sarmisakAkio: why should you?13:06
lepassivesarmisak, it does but only through apt-get commandline, but not through synaptic i can't find common packages like KDE, Haskell, .. etc13:06
ActionParsnipAkio: its not yours, use sudo / gksudo to write stuff to it and edit files therin13:06
jribMan_of_Wax: hold down the 'c' key while booting13:06
ActionParsnipopmd: not bad but i prefer other systems13:06
ikonia bullgard4 it's the device manager application from the system->administration menu13:06
Man_of_Waxjrib: before  refit?13:06
AkioWhat's sudo / gksudo? How can I give my account full permissions in Ubuntu?13:07
ginbuntucan some one help me with syncing my music to my iphone? I have it jailbroken and amarok can connect to it etc, but after the file transfer and disconnect ipod on my iphone still says "No music" :(13:07
jribMan_of_Wax: yeah, though I though refit would give you the cd option if you have refit already13:07
jribAkio: the first account has full permissions13:07
jrib!sudo | Akio13:08
ubottuAkio: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)13:08
rs_how long the fluxbuntu 8:10 or 9:04? thx13:08
opmdok,I'm looking for a console system just to squeeze the maximum of my pc13:08
Man_of_Waxjrib: thank you... it works :)13:08
AkioI am the first account. I just unlocked the panel and added myself to the root group13:08
jribAkio: the "root group"?  Don't do that...13:08
grawityAkio: :O !@#$%%13:08
bullgard4ikonia: System > Administration does not show an 'Device Manager' entry in Ubuntu 8.04.13:09
jribAkio: I think we need to ask a different question:  What exactly are you trying to accomplish?13:09
rs_please,how long the fluxbuntu 8:10 or 9:04? thank you all13:09
AkioI want to be able to have complete control of my computer easily. I just installed Ubuntu13:09
enigmaI change monitor, and I don't have higher resolutions, where add them in xorg.conf , my sorg http://pastebin.com/d7df2fe1f13:09
g00gle1O.o13:09
jribAkio: you do by default.  What exactly do you want to do that you are unable to?13:09
AkioI can't copy a font file into the truetype folder13:10
jribAkio: use ~/.fonts13:10
rs_och13:10
alessiocia13:10
alessiociao13:10
alessio!list13:10
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »13:10
YankDownUnderYeah, copy it into the /home/yourname/.fonts/ directory and restart the application13:10
opmd<ActionParsnip> you have installed gentoo?13:10
ActionParsnipopmd: many times13:11
opmdyou opinion?13:11
AkioUm... sorry, I'm new to Linux. What do I do with ~./fonts?13:11
ikoniabullgard4: system -> preferences13:11
ActionParsnipopmd: kick ass, takes a while but once you get to grips its pretty awesome13:11
ikoniabullgard4: system -> hardware something like that13:11
zirodayAkio: its where you stick fonts13:11
YankDownUnderAkio, There is a directory in your home folder - it's called .fonts => copy the font into that folder13:11
edi_99Hi guys. Hi. What's the terminal command  to set javac to the latest version... I'm trying javac -source 1.7 -7 -7.0 but it's still set to 1.3 (sorry for kinda off topic question)13:11
AntiNekoAkio: I recognize this... ;D My apps wouldn't recognize fonts being copied into home/myname/.fonts. If you want to copy the fonts into usr.share.fonts then press ALT+F2, and type in gksudo nautilus13:12
jribAkio: nothing.  I didn't say "~./fonts".  I said "~/.fonts".  Open ~/.fonts in nautilus and copy your font there.  You may need to create it first.  Note the '.'13:12
AntiNekoAkio: This will give you the permission you want13:12
AkioThank you13:13
g00gle1sorry to disturb, somebody can help me with my pen?13:13
g00gle1The wiki is not working straight...13:13
joneskoothe . is a convention and means it's hidden13:13
Ajitwhat is location of bash_profile?13:14
zirodayAjit: ~/.bashrc13:14
grawityAjit: ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc13:15
takaohi, does ndiswrapper has dependencies . my laptop only has wireless, i need to download this in advance to get internet working after install13:15
takao?13:16
netsurf3can someone help me i'm getting a dvd+rw that keeps reporting preformatting failed13:16
milligan_mod_auth_imap2 isn't in the ubuntu repos !?13:16
opmdi don't know..i am downloading  gentoo 686 for machine of  64 bit .you opinion <ActionParsnip>?13:17
lepassiveI'm desperate :(13:17
ActionParsnipopmd: get the amd64 minimal13:17
opmdok thanks13:17
ActionParsnipopmd: and have the handbook open on another system and walk through it13:18
ActionParsnipopmd: as soon as you get a boot loader, kernel and network sorted you can emerge to our hearts content13:18
joneskootakao: do you mean you're going to download ndiswrapper .deb and install it? as far as I can tell from apt-cache show ndiswrapper-common, no.13:18
ActionParsnipopmd: you will need #gentoo for help too13:18
joneskootakao: I guess you need the ndis drivers to use with it though13:19
ShoopufAnyone know how to get the latest version of Prism 0.9 for Ubuntu 8.10? The version I got from the repository is only 0.8, and I hear 0.9 is waaay better.13:19
opmdI do not know if levnatara dual boot with ubuntu...13:19
takaojoneskoo, thanks13:19
ginbuntuI'm pissed :(13:20
KoolDhow do you grab a few starting bytes from a file using dd??13:20
AkioHey, I put the font file in the Truetype folder, but Pidgin won't see it, any advice?13:20
r_bendercan anyone help restore /home and / from tar.gz?13:20
sarmisakr_bender: tar zxvf tar_file.tar.gz13:21
AntiNekoAkio: Do you find it if you go to Control Center - Appearence - Fonts ?13:21
AkioYeah,  do13:22
AkioI*13:22
grey08hello, i m trying to install nvidia driver for my ubuntu 8.10 desktop13:22
zirodayAkio: did you restart pidgin?13:22
r_bendersarmisak:  I have tar on an external drive to restore to my internal;  how do I restore the root directory and the home directory?13:22
opmd<ActionParsnip> my problem is what gentoo failed xserver xorg display13:22
zirodaygrey08: whats the problem?13:22
grey08hello ziroday13:22
AkioThat would be a good idea, thanks13:22
ActionParsnipopmd: its offtopic for this channel, this is #ubuntu13:22
grey08when i tried to install the driver, it says i appear to using x server13:22
grey08it needs me to stop using it13:22
zirodaygrey08: what command are you running?13:23
azlon1is there something that will allow me to change the time of a batch of photos? I need to change the time of 200 photos +4 hours13:23
opmdok is a theme complicated13:23
grey08sh nvidia.run13:23
InspectHerGadgetwhy i dont have gufw icon in start menu aplication?13:23
zirodaygrey08: okay, stop doing that.13:23
grey08oh13:23
grey08ok13:23
zirodaygrey08: thats the wrong way to do it :)13:23
grey08ohh13:23
grey08thanks for enlighten me:)13:24
sarmisakr_bender: does not matter, cd into /home directory, and use it like this; tar zxvf /external/drive/path/tar_file.tar.gz13:24
zgmf-x20aseb13:24
anjelradkohow install nvidia gtx260 on debian lenny? how packages i need? thanks13:24
bazhanganjelradko, ask in #debian13:24
zirodaygrey08: and follow these nice instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia13:24
grey08thanks :)13:24
anjelradkothanks13:25
bullgard4ikonia: System > Control Center > Hardware > Sound opens the dialog 'Sound Preferences'. There exists a tab 'Devices' which allows me to select 'Devicess', among other things. In a way, one could call that a 'sound device manager' but I consider this rather remote. Can you comment.13:25
AkioOk, so Pidgin sees the font, and the font button is written in Lucida, but when I type my text doesn't appear in Lucida13:25
ikoniabullgard4: seems like the right application13:25
zirodayAkio: did you change your preferences to write in Lucida?13:25
AkioYeah, I did13:25
bullgard4ikonia: Ok, thank you.13:25
aitvarahello13:26
quininhello13:26
aitvaramy apt-get update isn't working well , I got Err13:26
r_bendersarmisak: ok I'll try, thanks13:26
zirodayAkio: so in the Preferences > Conversation > Use document font from theme is unticked and you've selected lucida?13:26
quininhola13:26
aitvaraquinin do you wanna try to help-me ?13:26
zirodayaitvara: whats your error?13:27
Ienorandaitvara: net issues, sudo?13:27
scuniziShoopuf: don't know if anyone answered you on the prism question or not but on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism there's a tar for linux and a .deb of the latest version.13:27
AkioAh, thank you, I didn't know I had to untick that box. MSN is much easier to use13:27
Shoopufscunizi: thanks.. i was downloading the .tar.gz... >__< Will grab the .deb13:28
InspectHerGadgetx13:28
scuniziShoopuf: might be easier13:28
ikoniaInspectHerGadget: ?13:28
zirodayAkio: no, you just want to have everything different :)13:28
illmortalCan someone please assist me on getting my wireless card to work. I have no internet connection and all the drivers I tried to install using ndiswrapper supposedly are invalid.13:28
zgmf-x20ahey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!13:28
InspectHerGadgetikonia, nothin13:28
Akio^^U True. I'll learn to use this. Thanks again13:28
aitvaraMy error is this Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg13:29
aitvara  Connection failed13:29
aitvaraErr http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg13:29
aitvara  Connection failed13:29
aitvaraErr http://br.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg13:29
FloodBot1aitvara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:29
aitvara  Connection failed13:29
illmortalCan someone please assist me on getting my wireless card to work. I have no internet connection and all the drivers I tried to install using ndiswrapper supposedly are invalid.13:29
zirodayaitvara: are you connected to the internet?13:29
AntiNekoHey, Rhythmbox won't play Mp3s even if all Gstreamer-packages possible are installed13:29
zirodayillmortal: no promises, but what card?13:29
zirodayAntiNeko: do other sound files play?13:29
aitvaraziroday yeah13:30
zgmf-x20asebsebseb are you here?  but under a diff name???????????13:30
scuniziAntiNeko: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras..13:30
zirodayaitvara: edgy is EOL13:30
illmortalbroadcom13:30
scunizi!mp3 | AntiNeko13:30
ubottuAntiNeko: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:30
aitvaramy error is here take a look I did paste http://rafb.net/p/8RqfRe28.html13:30
ziroday!eol | aitvara13:30
ubottuaitvara: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases13:30
zirodayillmortal: what model?13:30
zirodayaitvara: you need to upgrade13:31
AntiNekoziroday: Totem and Rhythmbbox won't play anything. Amarok and VLC plays everything. I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.13:31
aitvaraupgrade what ?13:31
illmortalziroday: WMP54GS13:31
zirodayaitvara: to a newer version of ubuntu13:31
zirodayillmortal: thanks, gimme a sec :)13:31
illmortal:D13:31
aitvarawhy ? I never saw a thing like that13:31
zirodayillmortal: are you currently following any guide?13:31
zirodayaitvara: because edgy is eol, see what ubottu just told you13:31
illmortalYes... but ndiswrapper claims all the drivers are wrong -.- ziroday13:32
zgmf-x20ahey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!13:32
zirodayillmortal: exact error message?13:32
scuniziaitvara: your version of ubuntu is several versions behind.  Other than LTS (Long term support 3-5 yrs support) the other releases are good for 18 months.13:32
aitvaraok i'll visit that site13:32
illmortalWhen I attempt to do a -l command it shows all the drivers I installed and they read, "invalid" on each driver. ziroday13:32
zirodayillmortal: err, can you pastebin the output of lspci please13:33
aitvaramy ubuntu is 8 , stable13:33
aitvaranot end of life13:33
Dark-Jhi every one13:33
zirodayaitvara: no you are using 6.10, or at least 6.10 repo's13:33
grey08i have followed the instruction at the page, but the driver still won't activated13:33
YankDownUnderErf...and here I thought 8.10 died last week...dang...13:33
AntiNekoReinstalled all gstreamer plugins, rhythmbox and restricted-extras, but Rhythmbox still says there's no MP3 decoder.13:34
illmortalcrap... this isn't gonna work. I'm on Windows... and my Ubuntu partition has no internet connectivity at all.13:34
zirodaygrey08: err you went to hardware drivers and ticked the box and hit apply?13:34
illmortalziroday^13:34
grey08yes13:34
grey08glx-9613:34
zirodaygrey08: did you reboot?13:34
goldenxhow to get my ubuntu version info?13:34
ziroday!version | goldenx13:34
ubottugoldenx: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »13:34
grey08nope13:34
grey08ok, lol13:34
grey08reboot now ")13:34
aitvaraziroday you're guessing my ubuntu version coming from sources.list file , right ?13:34
zirodayillmortal: err I just need the networking line13:34
zirodayaitvara: correct, please pastebin the output of lsb_release -a13:35
theD3viL11could someone help me with my tv-out on intel 855gm please?13:35
aitvarauname-a says that my kernel is 2.6.27 , and I never changed him13:35
goldenxgoldenx@goldenx:~$ !version13:35
scuniziaitvara: type lsb_release -a in a terminal to verify what version is installed.13:35
goldenxbash: !version: event not found13:35
aitvaraok13:35
zirodaygoldenx: type in lsb_release -a to get your ubuntu version13:35
goldenxNo LSB modules are available.13:35
goldenxDistributor ID:Ubuntu13:35
goldenxDescription:Ubuntu 8.0413:35
goldenxRelease:8.0413:35
goldenxCodename:hardy13:35
FloodBot1goldenx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:35
goldenxthanks13:36
aitvarathere is http://rafb.net/p/xk0MNJ83.html13:36
ActionParsnipziroday: lsb_release -c   for codename only ;)13:36
zgmf-x20ahey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!13:36
illmortalugh... the developers of Ubuntu need to stop making so many versions and just make one complete distro -.-13:36
goldenxam I muted???13:36
zirodayaitvara: okay, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please13:36
zirodayillmortal: what do you mean?13:36
AntiNekoIt's giving me "The Gstreamer plugins to decode "MP3" files cannot be found"13:36
zirodaygoldenx: only temporarily for flooding the channel, you can speak now13:36
scuniziaitvara: looks like your sources list needs modification..13:36
ActionParsnipillmortal: ubuntu dont make the parts so thats not possible13:36
illmortalthey keep remaking new ubuntus and they never complete their jobs.13:37
goldenxokay thanks for giving me voice again13:37
AntiNekoBut it's there. :)13:37
illmortalthus making it harder for people like me to enjoy linux13:37
aitvarahttp://rafb.net/p/LXFLqs87.html13:37
illmortalthus makin us go back to windows13:37
illmortaland hating life.13:37
ActionParsnipillmortal: ubuntu is a concactonation of muliple projects13:37
zirodayillmortal: err did you get that info for me?13:37
KahlilCould someone tell me if Ubuntu comes with the necessary drivers to run "GeForce GTX 295 1792MB" video card on a 64 bit system?13:37
Myrttiillmortal: did you have ubuntu support related questions?13:37
goldenxi got problem on installing flash player for my firefox --- you tube13:37
scuniziillmortal: at least they complete more every 6 mths instead of every 6 years like redmond13:37
zirodayKahlil: what version of ubuntu?13:37
Kahlilany13:37
ActionParsnipKahlil: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180   should fix you up13:37
illmortalMyrtti... about 5 minutes ago I asked a question in regards to getting my wireless card to work.. and the only way that'll work is if i have internet connectino in the first place -.-13:38
zirodayKahlil: if you have intrepid you should be good13:38
Kahlili havent got Ubuntu yet, im going to be building a system, and want to make sure that the video card will work to its full potential13:38
zirodayillmortal: and I have explained to you, I only need one line so I know what card you have13:38
ActionParsnipillmortal: does wired work?13:38
goldenxi got problem on installing flash player for my firefox --- you tube, does anyone have solution?13:38
zirodaygoldenx: what is not working?13:38
aitvarascunizi some people said to me about iptables or router firewall be blocking the contact with the apt-get server , but I don't use any of these things13:38
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ActionParsnipgoldenx: 32bit or 64bit linux?13:38
aitvaraso is weird the thing that he isn't working , isn't ?13:39
Kahlili looked and drivers on nvidia site, but could not see where it said the GFX 295 was supported13:39
zirodayaitvara: you need to change everything that says edgy to intrepid13:39
scuniziKahlil: I don't recognize that card.. check nvidia's site for the linux driver that is needed for it.. Ubuntu comes with version 173, 177 and an older one.. you can install newer ones manually.13:39
aitvaraok i'll try this13:39
illmortalziroday... ill log onto ubuntu and use lspci and write it down... brb.13:39
goldenxinstalling errors bec of dependencies....13:39
Kahlilits the latest nvidia card13:39
ActionParsnipgoldenx: is your linux 32bit or 64bit?13:39
goldenxinstalling errors bec of dependencies....  --- flashplayer for firefox13:39
ActionParsnipKahlil: bleeding edge cards dont usually work well with linux13:39
goldenxjust 32 bit i gues13:39
zirodayKahlil: see http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.44.html that driver is in intrepid13:40
zgmf-x20ahey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!13:40
ActionParsnipgoldenx: can you give the output of uname -a13:40
goldenxim using ubuntu via VM13:40
scuniziaitvara: if you are on version 8.10 and your sources have Edgy repos listed, you'll have errors.. you may have the correct 8.10 repos listed as well and you're just getting errors when the sys trys to connect to the edgy stuff..13:40
zirodayKahlil: I got that from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us, you are in doubt you should contact nvidia support13:40
ActionParsnip\13:40
ActionParsnipgoldenx: doesnt matter13:41
aitvaraok scunizi thanks i'll change now13:41
goldenxLinux goldenx 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux13:41
ActionParsnipok its 32bit13:41
zirodayscunizi: no he doesn't, he just has the edgy repo's listed13:41
scuniziaitvara: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list13:41
Kahlilziroday: yea, the GFX 295 is not listed there :-/13:41
Tcl!1ubuntubot13:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 1ubuntubot13:41
ActionParsnipgoldenx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree13:41
Tcl!ubuntubot13:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntubot13:41
zirodayaitvara: you need to replace all the "edgy" with "intrepid"13:41
Kahlilziroday: it is listed under http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html but thats not a 64 bit driver is it?13:42
scuniziziroday: no he doesn't what? have any of the 8.10 repos? I asked him to look if he had both listed in sources and comment out the edgy stuff.13:42
abhrahowntu? to improve the performance of opera in ubu13:42
zirodayKahlil: sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If you go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and select your card it will say that driver supports it13:42
goldenx===sudo apt-get update  === lots of ERRORS13:42
ActionParsnipabhra: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-396697.html13:42
zirodayKahlil: support for your card was added in -180.22, its currently at -180.44. If it doesn't work in intrepid it will work in jaunty13:43
DefienceI need help with a Wubi error I'm getting13:43
goldenx====== sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  ==== lots of ERRORS too!13:43
ginbuntusome one helpps me with my iphone 3G13:43
scuniziaitvara: if you don't have any intrepid repos listed then what ziroday said is correct13:43
theD3viL11could someone help me with my tv-out on intel 855gm please?13:43
ActionParsnipgoldenx: can you pastebin the errors you get?13:43
abhrathanks13:43
ActionParsnip!paste | goldenx13:43
ubottugoldenx: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)13:43
zirodayscunizi: and according to http://rafb.net/p/LXFLqs87.html he doesn't13:43
rraj_behi13:43
Kahlilziroday: Ahh i see, i didnt see it on the list, but that was under "added support for the following GPUs" my mistake13:43
zirodayginbuntu: I've already pointed you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone13:43
scuniziziroday: thanks. never saw that link13:43
=== tiagofalcao is now known as tiagofalcao[AWAY
zgmf-x20acan someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!13:44
DefienceError 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist13:44
Defience press any Key to Continue13:44
goldenxActionParsnip : i'll send to you via PM == ERRORS13:44
zirodayKahlil: but short story, if it doesn't work in intrepid it will work in jaunty13:44
grey08ziroday... error message came up"Failed to load the kernel module"13:44
Kahlilziroday: jaunty being the upcoming release in 20 or so days?13:44
zirodayKahlil: yep13:44
grey08" screen(s) found, but non have usable configuration"13:45
zirodayKahlil: in fact if you gimme a sec I can verify that for you13:45
Kahlilziroday: thank you very much, greatly appreciated13:45
Kahlilziroday: thank you13:45
zirodaygrey08: did you try to install the drivers manually?13:45
grey08with the .run i downloaded?13:46
Ryder5Can anyone help me with the gnome menu button?13:46
Ryder5i need it too look like mac13:46
zirodayKahlil: yep, the driver is in jaunty, unfortunately not in intrepid13:46
scuniziRyder5: you need to look for a Mac theme13:46
zirodayKahlil: however I would imagine it would get backported after jaunty is released13:46
Ryder5Ive got the mac theme13:46
Kahlilziroday: the beta is still availble to use before the release, if i want to try before that right?13:46
Ryder5just not the gnome menu button13:46
scuniziRyder5: sorry no solution.. just that one suggestion13:47
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zirodayKahlil: of course, you can download jaunty now if you so wish13:47
ActionParsnipgoldenx: use pastebin, don't pm me the errors13:47
DefienceI need help with a Wubi error I'm getting13:47
ActionParsnip!paste13:47
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)13:47
goldenxactionparsnip : how to paste? i was muted and KICKED13:47
zgmf-x20acan someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!13:48
Kahlilziroday: so all in all i should be fine purchasing this graphics card and trying ubuntu? :)13:48
goldenx!paste13:48
zirodayKahlil: correct13:48
Kahlilzerioday: thank you again!13:48
zirodayKahlil: I know how worrying it is building your machine :)13:48
florin_ikonia13:48
matt_keysI have a networking problem. eth0 and eth1 are both set to different public ips but on the same broadcast, netmask, and gateway. eth0 does not respond to pings, but eth1 does. i switched the ips on the interfaces, and the reverse happens13:49
Kahlilziroday: yea, and i have been using mac for about 4 years, so much new stuff to look at!13:49
goldenx!paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/142044/13:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:50
goldenxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/142044/13:50
grey08ziroday, how do i install it manually? with the instruction from www.nvidia.com, it needs me to stop using the x server....13:50
for3stubottu hello13:50
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!13:50
DefienceWhat is this? Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist13:51
goldenxactionparsnip == have you gotten the ERRORS? i have used the pastebin13:51
erUSULDefience: pass it an absolute pathname not a relative one13:51
grey08hello, ziroday13:52
illmortalziroday: http://pastebin.com/m49d633813:52
DefienceerUSUL: Can you explain that a bit? like: F:/ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz   ?13:52
goldenxactionparsnip == have you gotten the ERRORS? i have used the pastebin13:52
aitvaraziroday I replaced all the edgy for intrepid , and didn't work yet13:52
aitvaraI replaced with a perl script that I made , and replaced well , but still not working apt-get update13:53
erUSULDefience: in linux there are no drive letters it should be /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz for example13:53
zirodayillmortal: right, one sec13:53
illmortalunderstood13:53
erUSULDefience: telling what program is giving the error would help13:53
DefienceerUSUL:yes, that's what is there13:53
zirodaygrey08: sorry was away, did you try to install the drivers from nvidia.com?13:53
DefienceerUSUL: I installed Wubi to my F: drive, when booting up I get that Error 1: message13:54
zirodayillmortal: okay, your network card is the BCM4318, in future people need that to help you :)13:54
illmortaloh ok...13:54
zirodayillmortal: coupla more secs13:55
erUSULDefience: not very familiar with wubi installs... i suspect is grub which is erroring out but do not know how wubi installs and configures it13:55
erUSUL!wubi13:55
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.13:55
illmortaltake your time ziroday13:55
DefienceerUSUL: I'll try that support page, thanks13:55
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zgmf-x20acan someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!13:56
Defience:/   that just takes me to ubuntuforums.org and I've tried there already13:56
JeruvyDefience: what is drive F:  primary, extended, etc.?13:56
AkioHey guys13:56
AjitI don't see .bash_profile in my ~ so should I create new one?13:56
scunizizgmf-x20a: are you trying to do it from outside your lan?13:56
zirodayillmortal: okay, first thing you need to try is the broadcom drivers. Install the b43-fwcutter package, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper and then sudo modprobe bcm43xx. If that doesn't work you need to follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177 (you might want to print it out or something). Any questions?13:57
AkioI was just wonder ing how I can reduce the size of my icons, can you guys help me?13:57
zirodayAjit: what do you want to put in it?13:57
Ajitfunction13:57
DefienceJeruvy: I use Vista and split my C: drive in 2 and named the other F: then formatted it and put wubi there. It installed fine but when booting I get an Error 1: message13:57
zirodayillmortal: the b43-fwcutter package _should_ be on the livecd, any questions?13:57
illmortaldo I need to download b43-fwcutter?13:58
illmortalok im copying this down13:58
zirodayillmortal: good idea, sorry it can't be easier :)13:58
Juje007Can somone help with a HD problem?13:58
zgmf-x20ascunizi: yes, from outside, over the net.  trying to setup my main pc, ubuntu 8.10, right now, to connect tomorrow13:58
Juje007someone*13:58
JeruvyDefience: verify that happened, wubi usually creates a virtual drive on an existing partition...thats probably why you have a grub 1 error13:58
zirodayaitvara: can I see your new sources.list please13:58
alice|wlhello, since installing ( some month ago ) my cron doesnt seem to work. I can see it in ps but none of the scripts or commands get executed13:59
alice|wlany idea where to look?13:59
Ajitziroday: .bash_profile and .bashrc files default created when we install ubuntu or do I need to create just after installation13:59
illmortalnot your fault ziroday :P13:59
mercutio22Hello. Where is the thrash folder located in intrepid ibex?13:59
zirodayalice|wl: do crontab -l to see your schedules job13:59
aitvaraziroday ok i'll paste again , my sources.list file has 261 lines , is it common ?13:59
DefienceJeruvy: It's definitely on the F: drive. Do you think I should uninstall it from there and move it to the C: drive?13:59
zirodayalice|wl: err scheduled jobs :)13:59
scunizizgmf-x20a: ok.. in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop you can set your options.. then if you're behind a router you'll need to forward the correct port to your machine.. I think it's 5900 but you should verify that..13:59
zirodayAjit: .bashrc is created by default. I'm not sure what .bash_profile does14:00
alice|wland if the color of ubuntuforums is supposed to be an aprils fool thats realy bad taste :P14:00
alice|wlziroday: no crontab for root14:00
zirodayaitvara: not really14:00
macman_hey all .. i need to compress 177gigs to about 154gigs .. is this possible ?14:00
jastonaswhat will you compress?14:00
zirodayalice|wl: yes, its an april fool. Thats your problem, your cron setup has got reset14:00
ActionParsnipgoldenx: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install14:01
alice|wlziroday: I never used the crontab command. what I do is place scripts in cron.daily or edit files in cron.d14:01
ActionParsnipgoldenx: just had a quick meeting14:01
aitvaraziroday http://rafb.net/p/rtIMCM67.html14:01
JeruvyDefience: I cannot see what difference it would make, but make sure the boot loader is looking in F: and not some other drive.  Grub is Telling you it cannot find the disk14:01
scuniziziroday: weird.. I don't see any difference on the forums..14:01
zgmf-x20ascunizi: ok, i have done that, doesnt quite help me out though.  kinda looking for help in setting everything up here14:01
zirodayalice|wl: hmm, in that case I'm not so sure sorry14:01
zirodayscunizi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19017714:01
zirodayaitvara: your perl script seriously failed.14:02
aitvaraziroday yeah seems that he did add many things14:02
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zaggynlGood lord, that is very bright pink.14:02
scuniziziroday: I think that link was for a different nick.. I'm not working with broadcom stuff.14:02
aitvarawell I had a backup of the old sources.list , before run perl script14:03
DefienceJeruvy: I can get to Grub. Should I edit this line: (not exact) --set -root-ignore_floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz14:03
zirodayscunizi: the link should be pin14:03
aitvarabut still was wrong , however14:03
zirodayscunizi: pink14:03
DefienceJeruvy: should it point elsewhere?14:03
scunizizgmf-x20a: If by "here" you mean the machine that you want to get into from outside.. then yes.. that's how you set it up..14:03
zirodayaitvara: well can you _manually_ change all the "edgy" to "intrepid"14:03
aitvaraok14:03
scuniziziroday: AH!  yes.. I noticed that right off.. it's early here and I didn't catch that you were showing the 4/1 coloring.. :)  thanks.14:04
mercutio22where is thrash folder? "whereis" reveals /usr/bin/thrash, but that aiin't no directory14:04
zgmf-x20ascunizi: ummmm as i understand it, in order to be able to accomplish this i have to use dynDNS and stuff or something.  like, how exactly would i connect to it from outside?14:04
DefienceJeruvy: also, when I tried to make it /boot/grub/menu.lst I get Error 15: filename not found14:04
ActionParsnip!trash14:04
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash14:04
zirodayscunizi: heh14:04
JeruvyDefience: I can't be certain since I cannot see  the partitions for real.  You need to determine if the boot loader can be fixed, if not I'd just format f: and boot windows, run wubi and install.14:05
mercutio22ActionParsnip> thanks14:05
aitvaraziroday done14:05
ActionParsnipmercutio22: np bro14:05
aitvaranothing yet , not working14:05
DefienceJeruvy: Ok, thanks14:05
aitvara33 lines14:06
zirodayaitvara: pastebin your latest /etc/apt/sources.list please14:06
scunizizgmf-x20a: that's an entirely different question.. dyndns is one way but not totally necessary.. it does help though, if your primary IP is always changing. basically from outside your lan you'd use vnc or rdesktop to connect to your primary IP address..14:06
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aitvarahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/142053/14:06
scunizizgmf-x20a: once, say tightvnc, is loaded you'd enter the IP of your home with the port number.. so 72.345.67.2:5900 ... from that point your router will see info coming in on that port and transfer it to your machine using port forwarding.14:07
seutjek silly question, I logged in my VPS using SSH, logged in root to do some stuff... now how do I log out of root? :x14:07
zirodayaitvara: and doing sudo apt-get update says what?14:07
zirodayseutje: exit14:08
seutjefigures :p14:08
space_cadetrofl @ conficker14:08
zirodayseutje: and how did you login as root?14:08
seutjesu14:08
seutjeI think14:08
Tvoq-nick|1|#14:08
zgmf-x20ascunizi: ok, yes.  this is the scenario.  my main pc, is running at home.  ubuntu 8.10.  i need to be able to connect to it, with full access to everything, from work, which i will be running eeebuntu14:08
Tvoq-nick|1|#bulgaria14:08
zirodayseutje: you should do sudo -i :)14:08
Tvoq-nick|1|ARE VLIZAI TE14:08
scunizizgmf-x20a: dyndns sets things up so you don't have to mess with IP numbers.. just enter the domain name you choose and the port number.. like zgmf-x20a.isa-geek.com:5900 ... by the way isa-geek.com IS one of their domain names.14:09
seutjeziroday: why is that? hosting company sent me a mail that said use "su" :x14:09
zirodayTvoq-nick|1|: is there something we can help you with?14:09
zirodayseutje: sudo -i is more secure then su, I don't have the exact arguement on me but I'm sure google would find it14:09
aitvaraziroday http://paste.ubuntu.com/142057/14:09
ActionParsnipzgmf-x20a: use ssh on the server and you can run all apps remotely and file access14:09
seutjeziroday: oh... thanks I'll look into it ^^14:09
zirodayaitvara: and you are certain you are connected to the internet?14:10
aitvarawell su is for change the user , asking in the same time the password , sudo is  for do as superuser14:10
aitvarayeah i'm14:10
aitvarano iptables,no firewall at router14:10
scunizizgmf-x20a: what ActionParsnip says is another method so you don't have to mess with vnc or rdesktop.. it's also more secure. however doing X over ssh requires some patients in the beginning.14:10
alanbshepard70Anyone know of the existence of a project that will alter speech in real time for skype, recording podcasts and the like?14:10
zirodayaitvara: okay, replace the sources.list with http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335375&postcount=2 please14:11
aitvaraok14:11
platius=114:11
aitvaraziroday nothing yet , I just did replace14:11
aitvaraby this ubuntuforums link14:12
zirodayaitvara: err what? Just move your current sources.list somewhere, and create a new one with the contents of the link I gave you and do sudo apt-get update14:12
zirodayaitvara: and I doubt you did it in half a minute14:12
aitvaraI did kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk14:13
aitvaraok i'll try create a new one14:13
zirodayaitvara: stop taking shortcuts and just do it properly14:13
Guest94809elo!14:13
yossarianpeeps, is vista shite?14:14
zirodayyossarian: ##windows for windows help, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat14:14
grawityyossarian: I quite like Vista... but 7 seems nicer. </offtopic>14:14
Jimi_Neutralhey guys14:14
emendoI am having difficulty installing freemind in ubuntu 8.10. I believe I have all the latest updates and I have installed it previously. However, I reinstalled from another distro and now I get this error from synaptic "Depends: simplyhtml  but it is not installable" Any ideas?14:15
aitvaraziroday still is getting error14:15
aitvarathe same of before14:15
Jimi_Neutrali got clonezilla working but the image it took was only 56KB, that cant be right can it14:15
zirodayaitvara: what does ping google.com output?14:15
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yossariani dunno...14:15
aitvaraeverything okays , is the same computer that i'm talking to you now in Xchat14:15
ActionParsnip!info simplyhtml14:15
ubottuPackage simplyhtml does not exist in intrepid14:15
ActionParsnip!find simply14:16
ubottuFile simply found in doc-iana, popfile, wims-modules, xfig-libs14:16
zirodayaitvara: that is impossible, its just using http to get the sources.list14:16
aitvarais weird14:16
aitvarawant to see printscreen ?14:16
emendoActionParsnip: What does all of this mean from ubottu?14:16
zirodayaitvara: heh, sure14:16
ActionParsnip!info emendo jaunty14:16
ubottuPackage emendo does not exist in jaunty14:16
ActionParsnip!info simplyhtml jaunty14:17
ubottusimplyhtml (source: simplyhtml): Java word processor based on HTML and CSS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.3+dfsg-3 (jaunty), package size 671 kB, installed size 792 kB14:17
scuniziemendo: some others to look at are VYM and kdissert.  or check out freemind on sourceforge, they might have a .deb.. also www.getdeb.net might have it.14:17
aitvaraok wait14:17
ActionParsnipemendo: its a jaunty only app14:17
reduzQuestion! Is there any channel for asking questions about jaunty beta?14:17
ActionParsnip!jaunty | reduz14:17
ubottureduz: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.14:17
scuniziActionParsnip: they've finally included it? that's nice14:17
zirodayreduz: yes! #ubuntu+114:17
yggdrasilhello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?14:17
reduzcool14:17
ActionParsnipscunizi: included what?14:17
zirodayActionParsnip: oh you bet me :(14:17
scuniziActionParsnip: freemind as you mentioned to emendo14:18
zirodayyggdrasil: what are these issues14:18
ActionParsnipziroday: fingers of lightning14:18
ActionParsnipscunizi: oic14:18
ottertoastwhats up guys14:18
ActionParsnipemendo: you will need to install jaunty beta to get the app14:18
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yggdrasilwhen the screen goes blank either from sending go blank by close lid or on resume. it goes white then slowly fades out to a    red / odd color.14:18
yggdrasilits documented.14:18
aitvaraziroday http://www.uploadimagens.com/upload/d6bca6e38e30e3606c4e399306e4683c.png14:19
emendoactionparsnip: So I will have to waite. Alright fine with me it is not too long away. Thank you for your help.14:19
emendo"wait" oops.14:19
aitvaraand here too , link 2 http://www.uploadimagens.com/upload/44d78af2e4b10f738b64c83753f82170.png14:19
ActionParsnipemendo: np, you can install the beta now if its pressing14:20
zirodayaitvara: can you visit archive.ubuntu.com in your browser?14:20
scuniziemendo: are you stuck for some reason using freemind?  Have you ever looked at VYM?14:20
simardsince yesterday X has been crashing for no apparent reason and now it's doing that more and more frequently.. all I can get from the log is a backtrace and a Fatal server error:Caught signal 11.  Server aborting, any idea what the problem may be ?14:20
Maddictedi can not find advance desktop to xubuntu in synaptics14:20
Maddictedcan someone help me out?14:20
aitvarayeah I can14:20
aitvara[DIR]ubuntu/01-Apr-2009 13:57  - 14:20
ActionParsnipsimard: read your xlogs and dmesg output for clues14:20
emendoscunizi: I have but I find freemind has many more features.14:20
scuniziMaddicted: you want to install xubuntu on top of ubuntu?14:20
zirodayaitvara: hmm, can you do sudo apt-get install hello for me, does that work?14:21
scuniziemendo: k.14:21
ActionParsnipwassup Maddicted14:21
syadowhow 2 play .swf file?14:21
Maddictedscunizi, i have installed xubuntu with wubi, and i cant find advance desktop14:21
scuniziMaddicted: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop14:21
zirodaysyadow: install flash14:21
aitvaraReading state information...Done14:21
ActionParsnip!info swfplayer | syadow14:21
aitvaraE: couldn't find hello14:21
ubottusyadow: Package swfplayer does not exist in intrepid14:21
ActionParsnip!info swfplayer14:21
ubottuPackage swfplayer does not exist in intrepid14:21
space_cadetanyone know where to download the conficker, im gonna infect my vm14:21
syadowubottu,  then?14:22
scuniziMaddicted: I'm not sure what advance desktop is in wubi.. never heard of it in the standard install either.14:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about then?14:22
Maddictedi'm sorry i have already xubuntu, i just want the compiz14:22
zirodayaitvara: well then, I have no idea. Sorry14:22
scuniziMaddicted: AH .. I don't think you can run compiz in wubi14:22
aitvaraneither do I14:22
aitvarakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk14:22
zgmf-x20ascunizi: mmmm its ok, ill try the dyndns way, ok, so i created an account, and so i have to make a domain name, or a host service??14:22
Maddictedwubi is just a installer?14:22
ActionParsnip!info klash14:22
ubottuklash (source: gnash): free SWF movie player - standalone player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 42 kB, installed size 88 kB14:22
ActionParsnip!info gnash14:22
ubottugnash (source: gnash): free SWF movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 242 kB, installed size 868 kB14:22
scunizizgmf-x20a: domain name.. that points to your current real IP address14:23
pressherehi i am searching for a program to create web pages on linux, any recomandation?14:23
space_cadetgedit?14:24
DJones!kompozer | presshere14:24
ubottupresshere: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy and later releases.14:24
presshere:)14:24
grawityI'd recommend Gedit, but then I am officially insane because my site is compatible with NCSA Mosaic :)14:24
presshereDJones tx14:24
syadowubottu, k thx ....its work14:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:24
zgmf-x20ascunizi: ok, so register a new domain address correct?14:24
scuniziMaddicted: wubi is a method of installing ubuntu on a windows machine like any other windows program.. however there is a layer that sets up the video that uses generic drivers.. you're essentially creating a virtual machine with wubi..14:24
zgmf-x20ai can justv write anything?14:24
dimebarpresshere: you may want to look at bluefish too14:25
pressheredimebar tx i will try14:25
scunizizgmf-x20a: I think so yes.. you create the first part of the address and choose a domain name from their list..14:25
scunizizgmf-x20a: yep.. you can use your nick if you want14:25
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zgmf-x20ascunizi: to do the choosing thing though, its under host services, not domain services14:27
scunizizgmf-x20a: there's also something in your router that you may need to setup for dyndns.. a section specifically for it.14:27
space_cadetand in your router.14:27
space_cadetdisable upnp14:27
space_cadetit is the worst hole you could ever have14:27
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danbhfivehas anyone tried to boot from a usb drive, and it just gives you a screen with a "'boot: " prompt?  What is that?  Is that busybox or something?14:28
space_cadetyep14:28
space_cadetno14:28
space_cadetpress enter14:28
scunizizgmf-x20a: last time I did this with dyndns it was really confusing.. their site isn't the most intuitive.. you don't want them hosting anything so I think domain services.. if you get to a point where they want money you've gone the wrong direction.14:28
space_cadetI had that with damn vulnerable linux14:28
space_cadetit would hang at the screen until you pressed enter14:28
robertjmail autopilot is awesome14:30
robertjgmail14:30
PhotoguyHow can I view a virtual disk (.disk) file in Windows, I need to recover some files.14:30
alice|wlok, somehowldap destroyed something in my system. cron doesnt work anymore and I have errors about pam and smb in /var/log/auth.log  http://pastebin.com/m1a373c8a14:30
zgmf-x20ascunizi: ok, i created an account under host services, and it was free.  what should i do now??14:31
scuniziPhotoguy: what ever program it was created with you'll need to install that program and access it that way.. if it was a virtual disk created by a vm program that is.14:31
grey08helloo14:31
* grawity greets grey08.14:31
nutzerhm14:32
grey08i still can not activate my nvidia driver14:32
nutzerhelp?14:32
Photoguyscunizi: Actually it was from a Ubuntu under windows install..14:32
nutzerhm14:32
scunizizgmf-x20a: sorry but I can't give you a blow by blow on the setup inside of dyndns. it's just been too long and I can't remember the specifics of where to go and what to do other than to say get dyndns to point to your IP address. then setup your router to forward to your machine.. there should be instructions on dyndns14:33
nutzerwhere do you come from?14:33
macman_can somone give me an example of using lzma to compress a folder ?14:34
scuniziPhotoguy: ah. that would be a wubi install file.. sorry I know next to nothing about how wubi works. you might have to do the wubi install again fresh and afterwards just swap the file that is created for the one you need access to.14:34
heyheyis it just me , or do limits.conf do fucko ?14:34
Photoguyscunizi: you think it's safe to do? I need some file..14:35
scuniziPhotoguy: like I said. I don't know much about wubi but it seems a safe bet.. maybe someone else will pipe up and give different advice.14:35
Photoguyscunizi: Thanks14:36
Jimi_Neutrali have managed to pull an image off a windows laptop to clone more laptops later using clonezilla on this ubuntu server box......unfortunatley the image was about 56KB in size so i am guessing something went wrong somewhere.....any ideas?14:36
matamouhas anybody had the problem with Virtualbox when installing WinXP, Cannot find NTDLR? if yes: how did you solve that problem? :s14:36
ActionParsnipJimi_Neutral: you could use dd to create the image, then dd to put it onto the other systems14:37
zgmf-x20ascunizi: hmmm ok, ill try to find some, but last time i checked there isnt any.14:37
zgmf-x20alol14:37
scuniziJimi_Neutral: you would be correct.. something went wrong.. is this an image of windows? or an ubuntu install?14:37
ActionParsnipmatamou: boot to xp cd and reinstall the boot sector, the guys in ##windows will advise well14:37
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grey08hello, i need help, i m using geforce 4 mx 440 with agp8x graphic card, but the resolution is 800x600, is there anyway to adust to higher resolution??14:37
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Its an image of windows14:37
grey08i have checked the hardware driver, its not activated14:38
tryggvibWhat's the best way to downgrade packages?14:38
Jimi_Neutralwell that is what i am aiming for anyway14:38
zgmf-x20ahas anyone else here succesfully setup REMOTE DESKTOP for use over the net?14:38
ActionParsnipgrey08: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96; sudo nvidia-xconfig14:38
sleepy_cat c_nick14:38
matamouActionParsnip: thanks, I will ask them. But what do you mean exactly, reinstalling the boot sector?14:38
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grey08thanks14:39
ActionParsnipmatamou: you need to run the fixmbr and fixboot command14:39
scuniziJimi_Neutral: you might consider using "Partimage" to create the image.. also when you use the image and restore it to a machine, if that machine isn't exactly the same then you'll have driver issues with the motherboard, usb, etc.. and will have to re-register it with redmond..14:39
ActionParsnipgrey08: hit ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in, then run: gksudo nvidia-settings14:39
matamouWell I dont have XP installed in my hdd14:39
ActionParsnipgrey08: i think its the 96 driver you want due to the age of the card14:40
IenorandIs there an nice way to view all icons currently installed on the system?14:40
grey08when should i ctrl alt backspace?14:40
ActionParsnipmatamou: you need an XP cd to reinstall the boot sector, its a windows issue though14:40
grey08i have downloaded from www.nvidia.com14:40
ActionParsnipgrey08: after the 2 commands have completed14:40
ActionParsnipgrey08: use the repo, much easier14:40
grey08but when i tried to installed it, it needs me to stop using x server14:40
grey08repo?14:40
saad_hi all14:41
ActionParsnipgrey08: run the command i gave you14:41
scunizigrey08: the driver is in synaptic.. you don't need to use the one from nvidia..14:41
notwistI have just bought a domain, how to I edit my server so that this domain is bound to my server? it's already pointing at my IP14:41
scunizigrey08: System>Admin>Synaptic package manager.14:41
likuid-silencehello all.14:41
myk_robinsoni need help writing a small bash script. I have Vuze in a folder, and I want to add a script to /usr/local/bin to allow me to run vuze as an executable from Alt+F2. The executable location is /home/myk/Downloads/Vuze/vuze  and the executable file name is ./vuze14:41
ActionParsnip grey08: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96; sudo nvidia-xconfig14:41
grey08i have downloaded all the "nvidia"  related field, but when i reboot, it came out " can not found kernel module"14:41
Jimi_NeutralScunizi: Well the thing is this image I am taking at the moment is just to see if I have Clonezilla set up right and I am using Clonezilla because it supports multicasting. We will be getting 40 or so identical laptops for our business which will need cloning. So I cant use partimage, unless it now supports multicasting.14:41
grey08o, i iwill try sudo command first14:42
scuniziJimi_Neutral: I don't think it does14:42
ActionParsnipgrey08: you need some extra bits that will be done post install with the command i gave you14:42
grey08alright14:42
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Neither do I, the last thing I read says it does not. So you see I really need to get this working :s14:42
Jimi_NeutralClonezilla I mean14:43
scuniziJimi_Neutral: I've never used clonezilla but others here have .. hopefully there's someone awake that will guide you.14:43
Gansekinotwist: Does your server have the same IP as your your domain?14:44
notwistI mean, when I installed ubuntu I remember that i filled in "domain" which is now used for ex. as default in irssi14:44
notwistGanseki: the domain is pointing to the ip, yes, so if i go to the domain i get my web server14:44
alienkidis there a DMZ-white cursor set for Windows?14:44
ActionParsnip!windows | alienkid14:45
ubottualienkid: For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents14:45
notwistGanseki: basically when I email for example through mutt it assumes the wrong domain14:46
notwistGanseki: it assumes host.myisp.com but i want my domain to be assumed as default instead for the server14:46
Gansekinotwist: Are you having a static IP on the server or through DHCP?14:47
anooptphi14:47
alice|wlfor some reason I have pam_smbpass in some pam configs. I dont need it and want to get rid of it. Can anybody guide me a bit as I m not keen on locking me out or similar.14:47
Gansekinotwist: Sounds like DHCP through your ISP14:47
* grawity greets anooptp.14:47
anooptpis there any image viewer which can display psd files other than gimp14:47
alice|wlmaybe I can just deinstall something ...14:47
notwistGanseki: I have a static ip from my ISP14:47
RopechoborraI installed amarok and the ubuntu-restricted-extras but it doesnt play mp3 files yet. any ideas?14:48
notwistGanseki: in that it never changes but I get it via DHCP (dont enter it manually)14:48
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: it needs a codec14:48
scunizinotwist: Ganseki perhaps a line change in muttrc?14:48
Gansekinotwist: Got ya.14:48
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RopechoborraActionParsnip, do you now wich one?14:48
anooptpRopechoborra vlc is good14:48
Ropechoborraknow*14:48
grey08hello, i m back14:48
Gansekinotwist: I don't use mutt myself14:49
Ropechoborraanom01y, vlc?14:49
grey08the nvidia kernel modules can not be found14:49
RopechoborraWoops. wrong nick ;$14:49
PhotoguyYes, VLC is awesome.14:49
mneptokRopechoborra: forget VLC14:49
anooptpvlc player14:49
grey08why is the driver can not be activated??14:49
scunizinotwist: are you on cli and wanting to use mutt for email?14:49
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs14:49
mneptokRopechoborra: it will play mp3s, yes. but it is not a good mp3 player per se.14:49
IenorandIs there any way to view all icons on the ubuntu system, it is really a pain when creating a shortcut and trying to find a good icon...14:49
Jimi_NeutralScunizi: ty bud :)14:49
RopechoborraOk, thank you :)14:49
mneptokRopechoborra: save yourself some headaches and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"14:50
scuniziJimi_Neutral: np.. did I actually help?14:50
space_cadet[OT]  I have an XP vm in ubuntu host, and want to put the conficker on it.14:50
space_cadetlink?14:50
anooptpis there any image viewer for psd14:50
grey08is it like atheros wife car14:50
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Ubersoldatlenorad: usually they are on /usr/share/icons or pixmaps14:50
grey08is it like the atheros wifi card in laptop, which require to make install?14:50
Ropechoborramneptok, Ok. :)14:50
RopechoborraActionParsnip, here it say that libxine-extracodecs is old or something like that, and some other is refered. libxine1-ffmpeg14:51
Ropechoborrais it the same?14:51
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Well im no further to sorting it but at least you answered me. Thats adding more to my faith in the Linux flavour comunity and pushing me towards using it at home.14:51
anooptpcan some one help me?14:51
Jimi_Neutralanooptp: What with?14:51
anooptpimage viewer14:52
notwistscunizi: im just wondering generally if i can change some setting so that my server knows that domain.com is pointing to it's ip so that's the default to use for everything basically14:52
anooptpwhich can take psd file14:52
notwistscunizi: so irssi automatically uses me@mydomain.com etc.14:52
anooptpother than gimp14:52
scuniziJimi_Neutral: I know what it's like. Been running linux now 3 years and coming here to help and get help.. sometimes it's hit and miss.14:52
ginbuntu !kde414:52
ubottuKDE 4.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 - Support in #kubuntu14:52
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: get that instead14:52
Jimi_Neutralanooptp: the best way to ask is just to ask the question right out and wait for someone to answer bud14:52
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg14:52
miklcct!kde14:52
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde414:52
RopechoborraActionParsnip,  Already have it14:52
VSpikeDoes anyone remember a trick for copying files in a ssh session between client and server without dropping out of the session and using sftp? I'm sure I read it on planet ubuntu at some point14:52
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: hmm14:52
anooptpJimi_Neutra ok14:52
grey08helloo, i need help on my nvidia driver14:53
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: sudo apt install gstreamer0.8-mad14:53
ginbuntuhow do I install kde 4.2.1 on Ubuntu 8.10?14:53
Gansekigrey08: What is the problem with your driver?14:53
RopechoborraActionParsnip, not found14:53
grey08i hve no idea14:53
Ubersoldatginbuntu: you'll need to download the sources and compile14:53
grey08my resolutio i sonly 800x 60014:54
Jimi_NeutralI get the feeling there are a lot of people moving from windows  to linux. Purley because the amount of people that I have seen in here just since I have been coming here in the last 2 days asking about Nvidia Drivers.14:54
ginbuntuUbersoldat, I don't mind compiling, any tutorial?14:54
grey08my resolution is only 800x60014:54
scunizinotwist: let me see if I understand correctly.  You have a server at home and bought a domain name that you want to attach to it.. it's currently pointed at your IP but you need Apache to recognize the IP? not sure how irssi comes into this unless there's info you're leaving out.14:54
Ubersoldatnot that I know of, try on kde's site... It'll take a while thought14:54
zgmf-x20ahas anyone successfully setup REMOTE DESKTOP over the net??? if so, please help! :)14:54
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:54
RopechoborraActionParsnip, it seems it works with kubuntu-restricted-extras14:55
RopechoborraNow its working :)14:55
Jimi_Neutralsunizi: Thing is I am first and foremost a gamer and we all know what Linux is like for games. I know you can use that Wine thing but I dont think I am ready to make the change just yet. Would like to know more about it first.14:55
Ubersoldatzgmf: what's so hard about that?14:55
RopechoborraThanks14:55
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: sweet14:55
anooptphow to view psd fiile in ubuntu?14:55
ActionParsnipRopechoborra: np man14:55
grey08hmmmm14:55
ActionParsnipanooptp: gimp maybe?14:55
Gansekigrey08: Please use a nickname when reply. Easier to keep track14:55
thom__hello all14:55
VSpikeginbuntu: maybe http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-KDE-4-2-on-Ubuntu-8-10-106118.shtml14:56
Ubersoldatanootp: there's no viewer (besides Gimp) to open PSD14:56
melkartdoes anybody have an idea how to interest some developer into fixing this annoying, many years old bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-applets/+bug/2230414:56
grey08nickname???14:56
a_n_d_r_e_wanooptp, gimp14:56
Gansekigrey08: You want to install the official nVidia driver?14:56
LjL!tab | grey0814:56
ubottugrey08: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.14:56
Jimi_Neutralor photoshop ;)14:56
a_n_d_r_e_wanooptp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28521714:56
LjLgrey08: grey08 is your nickname14:56
melkarti reported this bug myself half a year ago to gnome, not knowing about this duplicate... no response14:56
UbersoldatLjL: not in Opera... stupid tab doesn't work14:56
Gansekigrey08: See how I start with grey08 every sentence, if you start with Ganseki I know you are talking to me14:56
ActionParsnipanooptp: or open office14:56
LjLUbersoldat: well, it works in most sane clients14:56
grey08i just wan to make my resolution higher-----grey0814:57
UbersoldatLjL: just kidding :)14:57
scuniziJimi_Neutral: I dual boot.. there are just some things I have to do on windows that I can't on linux.. games is one.. some work stuff is another..14:57
anooptpActionParsnip ya , but it only take one pic i want to see continuous once like irfanviewer14:57
grey08[ganseki] ok14:57
macman_whats the best compression method  bzip2 tar zip 7z lzma ?14:57
LjLgrey08: err, you need to mention the nickname of the person *which you are talking to*14:57
Ubersoldatmacman_: tar doesn't compress14:57
grey08LjL ok14:57
ActionParsnipanooptp: does irfanview have a linux port?14:57
Gansekigrey08: I have a blog entry on compiling mplayer with vdpau but it also explains installing the official nVidia driver.14:58
Ubersoldatmacman_: maybe you're refering to gzip14:58
anooptpno only by wine . i searching for linux soft.14:58
grey08Ganseki: i just wnt to make my resolution better14:58
Gansekigrey08: Well with the official driver it should work14:58
grey08i14:58
anooptpActionParsnip it is win progaram14:58
Ubersoldatmacman_: I remember reading somewhere that 7Zip offered the best compression faster. But, gzip is the defacto on every system14:58
alice|wlApr  1 13:55:01 hqv2 CRON[30291]: pam_unix(cron:account): account root has expired (account expired)14:58
grey08Ganseki: i have no idea why i can not activate the driver itself at hardware driver14:58
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Yeah I could dual boot I guess but I really cant be bothered. I would love to just use Linux believe me. Even just looking at it and chatting in here it just feels more raw, more real if you like. I suppose I could because the only games i play I know work in Linux but I bet there will be one that coems out that I really want to play but then cant!14:59
alice|wlwhy is my root account expired? I can still sudo -i14:59
Omar87Where can I find the latest version of Brasero? (brasero growisofs)14:59
Gansekigrey08: I just install the official driver. Never failed me14:59
alice|wland how can I fix that? seems to stop cron from working14:59
Ubersoldatalice|wl: that's for PAM14:59
Ubersoldatalice|wl: you'll find plenty of help on that on google14:59
alice|wlUbersoldat: I get this errors for cron and cron doesnt execute any of the commands in cron.d14:59
GansekiAm I allowed to post URLs here?14:59
grey08Ganseki: is there anyway to remove all the nvidia driver and re install aain?15:00
alice|wllike sudo chage -I 40 or sudo chage -E-1 root but there is no doku about that15:00
thom__hello all, I want to connect to dal net network. Can I? How?15:00
Jimi_NeutralIs there anyone awake here that knows a nice amount about Clonezilla?15:00
scuniziJimi_Neutral: there's a host of games available for linux that are fun.. eventually you forget about the ones that only work on windows.. besides once you make the change there are so many projects/exploration that you'll want to do with your new system that games will get pushed to the background..15:00
Gansekigrey08: By installing the official driver that will happen15:00
LinuturkMicrosoft bought Ubuntu Linux! ;p15:00
Photoguy-_-15:01
grey08Ganseki: nothing happen when i tried "activate" the driver15:01
grawityLinuturk: And that once again proves that Micros~1 is stupid, as Ubuntu is free15:01
Omar87Where can I find the latest version of Brasero? (brasero growisofs)15:01
anooptpActionParsnip r u ter/15:02
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Ah yes I have seen there are a lot. As far as what you say about projects and exploration....I have never been a coder, I cant even program C or Visual Basic. I can do HTML and CSS but thats about it!15:02
Gansekigrey08: Go to http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/02/10/compile-mplayer-with-vdpau-support-on-ubuntu/ and you only have to follow the directions Let's start up to compiling mplayer15:02
ActionParsnip!info brasero15:02
ubottubrasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1481 kB, installed size 7708 kB15:02
scuniziGanseki: that's not true.. by installing the official driver from nvidia it will not remove all the nvidia stuff that ubuntu puts in.. you have to remove it using synaptic first before installing the nvidia downloaded driver otherwise you risk borking your system .. <--- grey0815:02
grey08Ganseki: alright, thanks15:02
ActionParsnipanooptp: sup15:03
grey08scunizi: ok.....15:03
ActionParsnipOmar87: you can get it from here if you want to compile http://projects.gnome.org/brasero/#download15:03
anooptpActionParsnip ok15:03
ActionParsnipanooptp: irfanview doesnt play nice with wine15:03
scuniziJimi_Neutral: I don't code either.. it's getting your machine to also be a web server, setting up an FTP server, streaming music/video to other machines in the house.. learning to live at the command line using mutt for email, irssi for IRC, elinks for web browsing etc.. there's lots to do without knowing how to code.. it's a whole different world..15:04
grey08scunizi: after i remove all the nvidia driver and reboot, am i able to "see" ?/15:04
notwistscunizi: i msged you if thats ok15:04
anooptpya, so i search for alternative15:04
ActionParsnipanooptp: im not sure ow to tackle this, the format is proprietary garbage which makes it hard to support in linux15:04
notwistbrb15:04
scunizigrey08: yes.. disable the hardware driver first and restart the gui.. that will put the generic driver back in action.15:04
anooptpActionParsnip y,15:04
scunizinotwist: I'm on irssi so I didn't catch that you pm'd me.. I'll look15:05
happygruehello.  That live CD is pretty nice!  I am hoping to switch over from Win XP in the near future, and that really is a nice demo.15:05
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: Well even command line scares me. I am using ubuntu with GUI15:05
anooptpis any other one like that in linux15:05
grey08scunizi: in that case, it will automatically download the driver?15:05
happygruehowever:  My speakers didn't like it very much.15:05
happygrueis there much testing/driver stuff I can do from the demo?15:05
anooptpActionParsnip i try gqview it is not supporting psd15:06
ynki have a sort of a silly problem. i've been trying to install my ati drivers for the past few days now and finally found the right drivers. while installing, the gui box extends beyond the bottom of my screen and thus i cannot click "continue" as the manual instructs. i'm stuck in 800x600 until i can install my driver.. but i can't because the box extends beyond my display. any suggestions?15:06
ActionParsnipanooptp: because its adobe being annoying and keeping their stuff close to their chest (like flash)15:06
ActionParsnipanooptp: the only real people who know about the data layout in psd is adobe and they suck15:06
scunizigrey08: if you haven't tried the driver in System>Admin>Hardware drivers then try that first. otherwise installing the driver from nivdia follow thier instructions15:06
anooptpActionParsnip yes15:07
scunizinotwist: you here?15:07
anooptpActionParsnip like pagemaker file too15:07
ActionParsnipanooptp: anything adobe make, except pdf15:07
grey08scunizi: i have tried that, once i reboot, i will get error msg ---can not load nvidia kernel module15:07
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Omar87ActionParsnip: I coudn't install it.15:08
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ActionParsnipgrey08: what is the output of: dkms status15:08
anooptpActionParsnip gimp is supporting so i thought there may be one15:09
grey08ActionParsnip: nvidia, 96.43.09: added15:09
ynkis there a way to force a window to resize?15:09
ActionParsnipgrey08: what video card is it again please15:09
anooptpActionParsnip ok see you bey15:10
grey08ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)15:10
anooptpbey to all :)15:10
ActionParsnipanooptp: i cant advise any further, personally15:10
anooptphow15:10
ActionParsnipgrey08: ok15:10
Omar87ActionParsnip: I tried configure, and it worked, but when I trie "make", it said: "No terget specified"15:10
ActionParsnip!compile | Omar8715:11
ubottuOmar87: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)15:11
emretemphi all, I want to run my tomcat web application server with a non-root user (named as tomcat), at the command prompt I can do it typing "su - tomcat /opt/tomcat/bin/start.sh"  everything is cool with this unless I mark tomcat user with "nologin" option at /etc/password file. well what  I want is to run tomcat with a non-root user, and I also dont want that user to be able to login with a ssh from outside. any solutions to this?15:11
anooptpit ok15:11
anooptpsee you15:11
nicklas_anyone using tor or vpn? which one is best at hiding identity?15:11
grey08so..... i should remove all the graphic driver now?15:11
ActionParsnipgrey08: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71; sudo nvidia-xconfig15:11
grey08ActionParsnip: ok15:12
ActionParsnipgrey08: well it doesnt work so i'd say yes15:12
scuniziemretemp: if you don't get an answer here try #ubuntu-server or ##linux15:12
ActionParsnipmy command will remove the 96 driver and install the 71 driver, lets see if that works15:12
grey08ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now15:12
ActionParsnipgrey08: once installed, ctrl+alt+backspace and login15:13
nETspideRhello15:13
Jimi_Neutralsunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?15:13
grey08ActionParsnip: which part do i need to ctrl ?15:13
kibil_hy15:13
margaretok I am using a laptop with high def intel (HDA) audio all is fine, but everytime I shut the computer down and login pcm is at zero, if I run alsamixer and alsaconf will this fix it? or does it just fix it for alsa and not oss, what PCM a part of?15:14
Jimi_Neutralscunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?15:14
grey08ActionParsnip: glx-71/15:14
ActionParsnipgrey08: let the whole bunch of commands run15:14
grey08ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now15:14
ActionParsnipgrey08: when it is done, hit the ctrl+alt+backspace15:14
grey08ActionParsnip: oook15:14
scuniziJimi_Neutral: sure15:15
UChihahy15:15
ActionParsnipgrey08: its gonna remove all the old nvidia stuff that doesnt work and install the 71 driver which will hopefully work nice15:16
ActionParsnipi gotta split, its 3pm and ive not eatern15:16
ActionParsnipgl grey0815:16
Guest17557hi all, I have this problem error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any help please ?15:16
yy大家好呀15:16
dead_hello all15:16
dead_hallp15:16
dead_hello15:16
grey08can use chinese here?15:17
epaphushey guys, what cd burning software does ubuntu come with.. and where is located??15:17
zambai'm running ubuntu dapper (don't ask) and i need to get a newer version of rdiff-backup.. how can i do this?15:18
storbeck!cn > grey0815:18
ubottugrey08, please see my private message15:18
Ropechoborra!chinese | grey0815:18
ubottugrey08: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk15:18
headl_@ epaphus , i think brasero15:18
casahello15:19
grey08好呀 yy15:19
yy我英文不好,能用中文吗15:19
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vincent__yy: you can join #ubuntu-cn15:21
yyubuntu 台式机到底用那种内核较好15:23
cumulus007What the hell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54380015:23
storbeckDid freenode have a netsplit?15:23
vincent__yy:   "/join #ubuntu-cn" pls15:23
grey08ActionParsnip: Error! Could not locate nvidia.ko for module nvidia in the DKMS tree.15:23
grey08You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-11-server (i686) first.15:23
grey08Done.15:23
coffee1where is sendmail installed on ubuntu intrepid?15:24
margaretanyone know15:24
eressolarcoffee1: whereis sendmail15:25
coffee1eressolar: i get just "sendmail: " in the terminal.  is exim4 better?15:25
grey08ActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/m9b7f015:26
doglinoxyzhello I enabled orca to run when I login , how I do to disable??15:29
cpbtklogicdid you look in Adminstration > Users15:29
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master#urbanterror15:31
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lakeofteariots in london @ g20 summit lol.  i bet they use windows15:33
ks3Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu working on the HP TouchSmart PCs? I can't get the touchscreen to work.15:33
shadeslayerhi guys, im in some major trouble,my windows partition is not seen by nautilus,i was trying out opensuse and started out to install it,but thought better of it and left it as it was quite complex15:33
grey08hello15:33
geniiEvery g(#) summit seems to have riots. Even when it was only 7 countries15:34
shadeslayerplease help me get my partition back15:34
ikoniashadeslayer: thats not an ubuntu issue15:34
grey08i guess its my monitor's proble then15:34
ccookeThat's off15:34
ccookeodd15:34
ccookeI thought the installer was able to resize partitions15:34
lakeofteashadeslayer : can you still boot to windows?15:34
shadeslayerikonia: uh i have all my files there,i dont even use windows now15:34
shadeslayerlakeoftea: no15:34
ikoniashadeslayer: thats still not an ubuntu issue15:34
ikoniashadeslayer: please don't ask in here15:35
grey08is there any command i can check if the graphic card is fully perfomance?15:35
ccookehas that capability been removed? It's not offering it on the guided install, nor am I able to when I go for manual install15:35
shadeslayerikonia: ill leave the question15:35
nicklas_nobody can recommend tor or vpn? for hiding identity online?15:36
assistenciaALGUEL DO BRASIL AI15:36
assistenciaOPS ALGUEM15:36
Flannel!br | assistencia15:36
ubottuassistencia: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:36
grey08sudo nvidia-xconfig command not found...15:37
LjL!recover | shadeslayer15:37
ubottushadeslayer: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel15:37
shadeslayerLjL: thanks,ill see that15:38
grey08help15:38
LjLshadeslayer: have you tried mounting the partition manually with the "mount" command?15:38
shadeslayerLjL: of course15:38
shadeslayer/dev/sda5           38587       38914     2620416   dd  Unknown15:38
grey08HELP15:39
coffee1how do i uninstall sendmail?15:39
grey08!help15:39
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liar_..15:39
shadeslayerheh15:39
ikoniacoffee1: remove the sendmail package with the package maanger15:39
DSpairG'day all!15:39
grey08!hello15:39
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!15:39
grey08hi15:39
coffee1ikonia: is there a terminal command for that15:39
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^D3vil^yaa yaa thx for the welcome :)15:39
grey08LjL15:39
ynkmy goodness, this is frustrating..15:40
LjLshadeslayer: well, i don't *think* mount cares about partition type... but you could still try cfdisk or something to set it as NTFS15:40
ynkis there any way at all i can resize a window that's not resizable?15:40
grey08HELPPP15:40
LjLgrey08: please, behave15:40
LjL!helpme | grey0815:40
ubottugrey08: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience15:40
shadeslayerLjL: how do i do that?15:40
grey08!helpme15:40
macman_http://pastebin.com/m4b4c92e2 < -- these are the compression methods i tried but they are all the same15:41
archmanikonia, do you know a way I can make my laptop fan to work a little less? It runs on half a speed almost all of the time. Maybe some fix?15:41
grey08i was trying on the command..lol15:41
LjLshadeslayer: i don't remember precisely... let me try (hope i don't mess up my own partitions in the process :)15:41
shadeslayerLjL: thanks15:41
ikoniaarchman: no idea15:42
coffee1nevermind got sendmail to work, was a cache problem15:42
macman_grml = directory .. everything else is the compression i tried to use15:42
Digital_PioneerDoes the Acer Aspire One ship with a modified Ubuntu, or is it the same thing as the ISO I can download from ubuntu.com?15:42
shadeslayerLjL: any idea how to get in that partition forcefully,i just need to copy my data,i can format the partition after i get my data15:42
dead_help me please guys15:42
LjLshadeslayer: alright, so it's: "sudo cfdisk", then select the partition (up/down arrows), then select "Typ" (right arrow), then type 07 for NTFS (if it's NTFS, it is, right?)15:43
shadeslayerdead_: state your problem15:43
storbeckDigital_Pioneer: It's probably pre-configured with all the drivers you need15:43
ikoniadavenpro: ask a question then15:43
ikoniaoops15:43
a_n_d_r_e_wdead_, ?15:43
ikoniadavenpro: sorry - typo15:43
arno-thi in f-spot i imported some photos and later on deleted them from the drive (not from within f-spot). Is there an easy way to get rid of all the "orphan" thumbnails?15:43
shadeslayerLjL: yes its NTFS15:43
LjLshadeslayer: then select "Write", and the "Quit". be careful what you do with cfdisk anyway.15:43
Digital_Pioneerstorbeck: Reasonable, so is there a place I can download one I'm sure has all of those drivers?15:43
simplexioDigital_Pioneer: attleast in one point you could install it from livecd and then use 3rd party repos to make it really work good15:43
storbeckYep, a regular Ubuntu iso can do it15:44
dead_what is conficker??????15:44
macman_grml = an iso15:44
shadeslayerLjL:  FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder15:44
Digital_Pioneerdead_: Windows virus.15:44
a_n_d_r_e_wdead_, a virus15:44
Digital_Pioneerstorbeck: So the regular CD has all the drivers I need?15:45
storbeckIt should, yes15:45
LjLshadeslayer: ugh. i think you have worse things to worry about than the partition type, then15:45
storbeckshadeslayer: Have you tried to fsck it?15:45
shadeslayerLjL: like?15:45
LjLshadeslayer: well, it looks like your partition table is quite messed up in general15:46
shadeslayerstorbeck: on a recovery terminal?15:46
TokenekieI have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?15:46
archmanikonia, by what is a fan controlled?15:46
geniidead_: Ask about conficker worm in ##windows please, or google it15:46
wamtyhey whats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks15:46
shadeslayerLjL: should i try fsck?15:46
LjLshadeslayer: did you interrupt the suse install while it was partitioning?15:46
ikoniaarchman: power managment15:46
shadeslayerLjL: yes :(15:46
storbeckwamty: updatedb15:46
LjLshadeslayer: i wouldn't recommend that15:46
archmanikonia, hmm...any ideas where should I look?15:46
LjLshadeslayer: well that was a *very* foolish thing to do :(15:46
wamtyso?15:47
LjLshadeslayer: it's likely that you're about to have corrupt data also in *other* partitions. backup your whole HD using "dd" if you have the space somewhere.15:47
shadeslayerLjL: I know,please tell me how to repair it15:47
wamtywhats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks15:47
ExcellI tried to get the gui in fire starter to start @ boot..it says i do not have permissions..i found out how to bypass that..but..now i want it to stop loading gui..i delete it from sessions but it still tries to load.. how to fix?15:47
storbeckwamty: I just told you.... updatedb15:47
TokenekieI have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?15:47
LjLshadeslayer: there's no magic recipe to repair it. you can try using "testdisk" (or another i can't remember now) to reconstruct the correct partition table15:47
shadeslayerLjL: hmm 320 GB internal HD and only a 2GB ipod with a install fest tommorow15:47
dinuHi all15:48
dinuhave a problem15:48
shadeslayerLjL: can fsck correct it ?15:48
LjLshadeslayer: NO15:48
UbersoldatTokenekie: as you would normally do on a not-live system15:48
dinuhow to nstall Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.0.415:48
AnNahari have wubi and ubuntu 8.1015:48
AnNaharbut it has openoffice 2.4:(15:48
AnNaharhow do i update to the new one?15:48
RopechoborraTokenekie, Try chroot /liveusbfolder and then try using the normal apt.15:48
shadeslayerLjL: ok so no fsck15:48
TokenekieRopechoborra: Ill try that, Ill get back to you15:49
RopechoborraOk :) tell me if it works15:50
LiteShadeWould appreciate help with OO Calc newbie question. Thanks15:50
LjLshadeslayer: in my opinion, your first line should be 1) full backup 2) try "testdisk" and "gpart", they can "guess" your correct partition table sometimes15:50
UsamaAkkadAnNahar,15:50
UsamaAkkadI'm here whats up?15:50
shadeslayerLjL: where do i back up?? i have no external drives15:50
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Lego_Danhello everyone, I was wondering if i could as a quesiton15:50
AnNaharLjL, how do i update to the latest openoffice on ubuntu?15:51
AnNaharUsamaAkkad, i was saying why i was on irc15:51
storbeckLego_Dan: questions aren't allowed in support channels15:51
LjLshadeslayer: i don't know what to say - using testdisk or gpart without having a backup image might be dangerous15:51
LjLAnNahar: i don't know15:51
Lego_Dani see, i see...15:51
Kesman_yeah, only answers here15:51
Digital_PioneerLego_Dan: Don't ask to ask, just ask. :)15:51
archmanIs there a way to control fan speed, cause I can see some increase in its speed lately...15:51
Lego_Danok, well i try to be polite :P15:51
Digital_PioneerLego_Dan: NP. What's up?15:52
TokenekieRopechoborra: When you say /liveusbfolder yoiu mean root right?15:52
sdlsWhat is the difference between ubuntu server edition and desktop?  Is it just a matter of support?15:52
shadeslayerLjL: no problems,ill spend the night installing ubuntu+windows+opensuse+dell media direct ;)15:52
RopechoborraTokenekie, I mean the mounted usb device15:52
UbersoldatTokenekie: exactly, what do you want to do?15:52
Kesman_sdls: well the purpose naturally15:52
LjLarchman: well, that might mean there's some dust on it which makes the cpu heat more than it used to15:53
dead_INDONESIA...INDONESIA15:53
LjL!id | dead_15:53
ubottudead_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia15:53
Kesman_sdls: and there's no graphical interface in the server as far as I know15:53
sdlskseman: ahhhh15:53
Lego_DanUm currently I use FreeBSD, but I have a 2400HD that I haven't been able to use... (using crappy onboard intel card) to run my KDE/Compiz. And now I also can't install Openpanel, Openpanel works on Ubuntu though.. So Im just trying to find out if my Radeon will have 3d support (compiz) and im getting mixed answers everywhere I look15:53
shadeslayerLjL: do i run test disk from a terminal or recovery console?15:53
Kesman_sdls: there's this button left to your a key that has arrows in it. Use it with nick15:53
Lego_Danso I was considering coming over to Ubuntu15:53
Kesman_nicks15:53
TokenekieUbersoldat: Im trying to update the bluetooth aplication on my live USB. And hopefully keep it updated for future boot-ups15:53
archmanLjL, I thought about it, yes... thanks! I'll check it out, if it's not to big of a problem on my hp laptop...15:54
DSpairLego_Dan, It should work fine on Ubuntu using the Restricted Drivers package.15:54
LjLshadeslayer: recovery would be best if you actually use it to re-write a partition table, but as long as you're just simulating it, you can do it anywhere15:54
LiteShadewould like to be able to open a document first instead of opening the default (template) the a document, also wish that the document could be placed on the task(?) bar, so that I could click the icon, instead of having to open the OO Calc program.; Thanks15:54
shadeslayerok15:54
UbersoldatTokenekie: then just boot to the Live system and do "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"15:54
sdlsKesman: so if I wanted to put Ubuntu in my office place.  I would likely use the desktop edition for all end users, but the servers (eg, a poweredge 1850 hosting our company webserver) would use the server edition?15:54
shadeslayerill boot to recovery15:54
DSpairI have various Radeon cards working on Ubuntu, including my Sun servers.15:54
UbersoldatTokenekie: after updating your sources.list and all that15:54
Lego_Danso there is 3d support for it :S why doesn't bsd have 3d support for it... and it should out preform my onboard intel card correct15:54
Ubersoldatyou don't need to chroot nowhere15:54
Digital_PioneerLego_Dan: A real card will almost always outperform on-board.15:55
RopechoborraTokenekie, with chroot you make the folder as it was the root folder. So if you have the USB mounted to /media/usb then do sudo chroot /media/usb and then the update with apt-get15:55
DSpairLego_Dan, I can't guarantee that, but it certainly does in my experience.15:55
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Kesman_sdls: exactly. The ubuntu desktop and server edition work very well together in a network15:55
sdlsKesman: I see.15:55
hybr1dercould anyone here help me out fixing mythtranscoder i get an error: 139?15:55
sdlsKesman_:Thank you15:55
UbersoldatRopechoborra: if he's booting the Live why would he want to chroot to a system he's already rooted at15:55
DSpairLego_Dan, I know the frustration though. Moving from one *NIX to another can be a pain.15:56
Lego_Danok cool :) kinda makes me wish I tried Ubuntu before BSD... now im gunna have to learn it all over again :P15:56
TokenekieRopechoborra: terminal gives me "... /dev/sdb is not a directory"15:56
platypus_hello, after the recent system updates my desktop effects just stopped working and now cannot be enabled, did anyone else experience this? newest/most patched ubuntu.15:56
RopechoborraUbersoldat, Uhmm i dont know why i supoused he had mounted the usb, not booted it. Sorry15:56
DSpairLego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it15:56
storbeckLego_Dan: That's why I haven't switched to BSD yet :) I'm too used to Linux15:56
DSpairLego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it's "ps ax".15:56
TokenekieUbersoldat: does safe-update update all the aps on the LiveUSB? I just want to update the bluetooth15:56
Lego_Dan?15:56
Kesman_ /aw pois15:57
GibbaTehHuttplatypus_, using gfx drivers from the repos, or compiled separately ?15:57
Kesman_:FF15:57
Lego_Danone sec brb15:57
Kesman_remove space15:57
UbersoldatTokenekie: I don't know how you can update only a package15:57
platypus_i compiled mine sep GibbaTehHutt since the repos dont work for my card15:57
RopechoborraTokenekie, did you boot from the live usb ? I mean, are you in that ubuntu now?15:57
DSpairLego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.15:57
RopechoborraUbersoldat, i think if you try to install the package it will update it..15:57
GibbaTehHuttplatypus_, every time there are kernel updates you will need to recompile it, pretty straight forward, just as you did before15:57
TokenekieRopechoborra: Yes, I did an fdisk -l and found my usb to be /dev/sdb15:57
platypus_GibbaTehHutt, interesting15:58
Ubersoldathmmm... certainly15:58
Ubersoldatlet me try15:58
UbersoldatRopechoborra: you're right15:59
RopechoborraTokenekie, but are you using ubuntu from the LiveUSB or an ubuntu installed in a hard drive?15:59
platypus_GibbaTehHutt, I'll give that a shot, thanks15:59
TokenekieRopechoborra: Ubuntu from live USB15:59
RopechoborraDamn... i dont know how to say it in english :(15:59
RopechoborraTokenekie, so then forget chroot :)15:59
Lego_Danok sorry, knock at the door, so I missed that its "something" and not "this" ??15:59
RopechoborraTokenekie, do the sudo apt-get install (bbloothot package)16:00
DSpairLego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.16:00
prince_jammysDSpair: upside down?16:00
TokenekieRopechoborra: Ah, yes like I was telling Ubersoldat, I want to make sure I update only my bluetooth package and not everything else. I dont have that much space on my flash drive16:00
RopechoborraTokenekie, Yeap, so put only the bluetooth package in the apt-get install command16:01
Lego_Danah.. i don't know either command :P im still pretty new i use ps auxx for something but don't remember what16:01
TokenekieRopechoborra: Do you know where I can find the name of the bluetooth package?16:01
DSpairprince_j1mmys, Upside down? Whaddya mean?16:01
dead_i need ubuntuers from indonesian16:02
TokenekieRopechoborra: Im trying to look for a search ability like "yum search" does16:02
RopechoborraTokenekie, wich program are you using ?16:02
RopechoborraTokenekie, there is one: sudo apt-cache search16:02
Lego_Danum, will kubuntu install over my xp partion and still let me use my bsd partion16:02
RopechoborraIt may be usefull16:02
TokenekieRopechoborra: ITs just the bluetooth package that comes with the live CD .iso16:02
mbeierlTokenekie, or just simple aptitude search <package>16:02
DSpairLego_Dan, It can, but you will have to choose to do a manual partition config during the install.16:03
phaerIs it possible to just see processes running in a certain chroot?16:03
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Lego_Danok, so it has a boot manager similar to bsd?16:03
DSpairLego_Dan, Yes, by default it uses GRUB, but it can also use LILO16:04
RopechoborraTokenekie, there is a package called "Bluetooth" (Bluetooth stack utilities) you may try that one... I'm not sure16:04
kennethreitzHas  anyone considered mergine Debian and Ubuntu? What does Ubuntu do that goes against Debian's philosophy?16:04
Lego_DanLILO is the bsd one correct? does it matter which I use? i do know that if i re-install xp it messes the boot manager up and I can't access bsd anymore16:04
Tokenekiembeierl: Ropechoborra: Is there a way to search for the name of the bluetooth package installed on your live USB already? I did a "sudo apt-cache search bluetooth" but, yeah, it gave me alot of results16:04
mbeierloh, sorry what is installed already16:05
DSpairLego_Dan, Not too much. I find that GRUB works in 99%, but sometimes hardware like high end servers work better with LILO16:05
UbersoldatTokenekie: just check the first column. If you've got an "i" it's installed16:05
mbeierlTokenekie, what is installed already is through dpkg -l | grep name16:05
GibbaTehHuttkennethreitz, ubuntu is based on debian, so not much point really, different philosophies :)16:05
digiforI am starting to think my brand new acer aspire one hard drive has failed.16:05
Lego_Danah ok, well this ain't no high end server :P so im sure GRUB will be fine, thanks :) i just don't want to mess my bsd if i get kubuntu installed and get lost :P16:06
Lego_Danthanks :)16:06
DSpairLego_Dan, I just got a new Sun server which couldn't use GRUB, but LILO worked out of the box. It turned out to be the fact that the server had UEFI instead of a standard BIOS.16:06
RopechoborraUbersoldat, first column where?16:06
wadRunning compiz under Ubuntu, with the nifty rotating desktop cube. Is there a way to put a different background image on each face of the cube? I've looked all through the options, and I don't see a way...16:06
DSpairLego_Dan, No problem.16:06
UbersoldatRopechoborra: on the output of aptitude16:06
lfaraoneHow can I grep a file (HTML) for IP addresses? (they may be inside other words, such as foo://192.168.1.1/bar)16:06
Ropechoborrawad, did you try changing background image of each desktop ?16:06
mbeierlTokenekie, example:16:07
mbeierldpkg -l | grep blue16:07
mbeierlii  bluetooth                                  4.32-0ubuntu3                     Bluetooth support16:07
wadRopechoborra, no! Good idea.16:07
DSpairwad, There is, but it's an additional program.16:07
TokenekieUbersoldat: I dont think I see the "i"'s but mbeierl's method gave me a really good result. So I think I'll continue from there16:07
Lego_Danis bind the default nameserver on ubuntu?16:07
kennethreitztokenekie: sudo apt-get install bluez or something along those lines16:07
kennethreitzit has a z in it.16:07
DSpairwad, Look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48250516:07
Lego_Danlike i have bind, apache, php5, mysql, blah blah.. and basically want the exact same setup plus openpanel16:07
Ubersoldatuh, sorry, it's just that I always use aptitude, not apt16:07
wadWhen I change the image on one facet of the cube, it changes all of them.16:07
* wad clicks DSpair's link16:07
DSpairLego_Dan, Yes, BIND 9 is the default in Ubuntu.16:07
Tokenekiembeierl: Ubersoldat: Live USB says i have "bluetooth" and "libbluetooth3" installed so I think ill update those16:07
Lego_Dansweet so it shouldn't be too hard for me to get it up and running the exact same.. possibly use the exact same *.conf files?16:08
willbeelerHey guys!16:08
DSpairLego_Dan, You'll probably be a convert the first time you fire up synaptic. The package manager on Ubuntu is AWESOME.16:08
DSpairLego_Dan, The same conf files will probably work as long as you adjust the paths to suit the new filesystem layout.16:09
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ChrizCUbuntu's telling me to put in a rewriteable cd into my CD-RW drive, but there's already one in there? Why won't it write?16:09
Lego_Danconvert? you mean like pull the configs from bsd and put them right into ubunto16:09
willbeelerOk, I dont' know if any of you have done much in the way of SSL certificates and Ubuntu server, but I have a question if you have...16:09
DSpairLego_Dan, So, in apache.conf, you may have to change the web root path to "/var/www" or things like that.16:09
UbersoldatChrizC:  maybe you need to format it first16:10
Lego_Danah.. cool.16:10
ChrizCUbersoldat: the cd, or the drive?16:10
Lego_Dani heard that the file system is significantly different16:10
Ubersoldatthe CD... how are you going to format a drive?16:10
ChrizCUbersoldat: I really don't know. Anyway, how do I format the CD?16:10
DSpairLego_Dan, You might want to look at the Linux Standards Base docs to see where files are typically found on Ubuntu. I know that the Apache configuration files on Ubuntu were weird to me when I switched.16:10
mistereo075hi16:11
Lego_Danthere is a find files and folders isn't there?16:11
DSpairLego_Dan, Ubuntu devides Apache configurations into "include" files for each module and that modules configuration.16:11
Lego_Danso i should be ok :) if not google does it all :P16:11
DSpairLego_Dan, And IRC covers the rest! :)16:12
willbeelerHas anyone worked with Installing SSL CA's Certs before?16:12
Lego_DanLOL yup, kubuntu download is at 41% so Im sure you guys will be hearing from me some point after that :P16:12
DSpairLego_Dan, The "find" command seems to work the same as other *NIX variants I have used in the past. KDE also has a graphical search tool.16:12
TokenekieUbersoldat: mbeierl: It worked. I did the "dkpg -l | grep bluetooth" to find my installed packaged. Then activated the "universe" repository thru synaptic. Then "sudo apt-get install bluetooth libbluetooth3". It is apparently the most recent version. Thank you.16:12
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Lego_Danyea i like the kde search feature but its seems a tad slow16:13
Lego_Danmeh16:13
mbeierlTokenekie: you're welcome!  Glad it worked!16:13
UbersoldatTokenekie: good... but you'll lose all of that once you reboot16:13
DSpairLego_Dan, I think switching from BSD to Ubuntu will be a lot easier than when I tried to get back up to speed on Solaris a couple of months ago. Gawd!! That was horrible.16:13
aaron1hello16:13
DSpairHello aaron116:14
aaron1is there a way to make pigeon not close when i click on the X16:14
Lego_DanLOL, well i think my pro here is that i haven't learned half the in's and out's of bsd16:14
TokenekieUbersoldat: I created the liveUSB using the System->Administration tools and allocated 1.2 gigs to save system settings so I'm hoping that would allow me to save updated packaged. It currently saves my desktop settings.16:14
aqhelooo16:14
DSpairaaron1, You can configure pigeon to minimize to the tray on close, but you can't disable the close button complete.16:14
DSpairs/complete/completely/16:15
aaron1where do i go to minimize on close?16:15
aaron1i couldnt find it16:15
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DSpairaaron1, Lemme look at mine and let you know in a sec.16:15
aqhi16:15
DSpairaaron1, "Tools->Preferences"16:16
aaron1yeah?16:16
julio_Hey guys! Is there one Ubuntu 8.05?16:16
aaron1where in prefs16:16
DSpairaaron1, Click on the "Interface" tab and make sure that the box for "Show system tray icon" says "Always".16:16
Ropechoborrajulio_, Nope16:16
aaron1oh16:16
aaron1eh16:16
aaron1 /stupid16:16
Ropechoborra!version | julio_16:17
ubottujulio_: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »16:17
kora-chanhi, im using ubuntu 8.10; if i plug in my usb hard disk (ntfs formatted) it is mounted as read only. how can i make it mount read and write?16:17
DSpairaaron1, Nah, I'm used to seeing a box which says minimize to system tray myself.16:17
julio_Ropechoborra, tks :D just checking16:17
aaron1ok16:17
aaron1bye16:17
prince_jammysjulio_: the second number in the version refers to the month it was released. the first is the year16:17
Lego_Danoh kora brought up another question in BSD i mount my usb with "# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt" is it the same in ubuntu?16:18
babybluesmanHi everyone. I'm looking for a laptop. PC, Lightweight, Non-Glossy between 500-1000 bones. Similar maybe to a Think Pad. Any suggestions?16:18
Picassotamuskora-chan: Do you have the ntfs-3g package installed? that would be step 116:18
MyrttiLego_Dan: mount points tend to be in /media, otherwise yes16:18
DSpairLego_Dan, No, it will automatically show up as an Icon on your desktop when you plug it in.16:18
ZarroBoogsbabybluesman: Try asking in ##hardware16:19
Lego_Daneven though its msdosfs?16:19
DSpairLego_Dan, To unmount, you just right-click and select "Unmount"16:19
kora-chanPicassotamus: i can mount it using the mount -t ntfs-3g command16:19
DSpairLego_Dan, Yup.16:19
babybluesmanOk, thanks16:19
Lego_Danthats slick... they need to add that to bsd16:19
kora-chanPicassotamus: ill check if its installed mom16:19
Lego_Dansorry all the talk of bsd.. but its all i know at this point :( that will soon change :P16:19
kora-chanPicassotamus: yap its there16:20
DSpairLego_Dan, Linux has a service called "UDEV" which monitors the kernel for new hardware events. It then passes that information on to "DBUS" which allows for automatic actions to be implemented for all sorts of hardware events.16:20
natsukashi_Is it hard to install Debian?16:20
DSpairLego_Dan, I have a USB TV tuner, and when I plug it in, it automatically launches XawTV. Fun stuff.16:21
Lego_Danhmm.. in compiz manager DBUS refuses to be enabled.. does that mean I have problems with it.. and will that cause problems in ubuntu.16:21
kora-chanPicassotamus: do i have to modify fstab or is there an alternative?16:21
virus_hey everybody! i have a problem with my touchpad16:21
Ropechoborranatsukashi_, Its not the Ubuntu graphic like install but the theory is just the same :PP16:21
DSpairLego_Dan, I doubt it. DBUS isn't installed on BSD by default, and that is likely why Compix cannot use it on BSD.16:21
aq_f16:22
aq_sfv16:22
aq_svvs16:22
aq_sv16:22
aq_sbv16:22
FloodBot1aq_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:22
aq_svb16:22
Picassotamuskora-chan: If you want it to mount properly everytime, then yes changing fstab would be my advice16:22
___n00b___hello all16:22
Lego_Danah.. makes sense. .but you would think that compiz would have installed it as a dependency16:22
natsukashi_Ropechoborra: I'm kind of new. Can I manage with trail by error? :P16:22
kora-chanPicassotamus: k thx16:22
DSpairLego_Dan, One other kewl thing you can do with Compiz, DBUS, etc...: You can set up a scheduled job to automatically rotate you screen and other Compiz stuff. Not really useful, but fun noetheless.16:22
___n00b___can anyone help to make AssaultCube working in my ubuntu16:22
Lego_Danyea.. im running compiz on my crappy intel card.. and can't figure out how to make all the sides visible with the transparent top/bottom like they do in the youtube videos.... all i get when i disable the caps is 2 sides visible which looks horrid16:23
theD3viL11i need help with my intel 855 tv-out! It wont work, i tried everything i can!16:24
virus_can anyone help me to reduce a little delay when i tapping in the touchpad ????16:24
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: witch intel card do you using?16:24
Lego_Danum... whats the fastest way to check on bsd? also when i upgrade xorg to 7.4 it refuses to upgrade the xorg driver to 7.4 and the intel/ati drivers...16:25
theD3viL11lspci |grep VGA16:26
Lego_Danif that was for me.. that didn't work16:26
usas101Beware of the downadup virus!16:26
DSpairLego_Dan, Best of luck. I'm off to lunch.16:27
usas101it infected my brothers computer!16:27
Lego_Danok, thanks16:27
ZarroBoogsusas101: This isn't ##windows16:27
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: then i dont know :) i cant get my intel card working tv out :S16:28
Lego_Danlol, i can't get my radeon card TV-out working :P16:28
Ubersoldatlol that was the best comment today16:28
Ubersoldat"Beware of the downadup virus!"16:28
Lego_Danwhen its enabled :P but then compiz doesn't work so its like im always between a rock and a hard place16:28
hybr1derhow do i share a folder over smb so that u need to login to access the folder?16:28
Lavandergirlwhats a virus?16:28
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: fglx drivers dont work? When i had radeon 9600pro worked..16:29
usas101a thing that distroys your computer16:29
Ubersoldathybr1der: use ssh, you'll be done faster16:29
usas101that is what a virus is.16:29
usas101hi cuca85!16:29
theD3viL11hybr1der: you have your configurations in /etc/samba/samba.cfg16:29
Lego_Danyea I can't get any 3d with the radeon card... or tv-out.. 2d works fine16:29
Ubersoldator someone who can't type properly16:29
hybr1derokay thx16:29
Lavandergirlusas101: I was being sarcastic16:29
theD3viL11hybr1der: /etc/samba/smb.cfg16:29
margaretI have version of rosetta stone that runs from the disc in the disc drive only not hd install necessary, can I run this in ubuntu16:30
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: thats weird. take a look on ubuntuforums.org ..you'll find an answer. There is alot of topics of ati cards problems.16:30
LargePrimeIs there a way to set a reminder alarm so my computer could remind me of an appointment?  or a recommended task type application?16:31
Lego_Danopps thought you knew, sorry, im talking on bsd.. im downloading kubuntu as we speak16:31
UbersoldatLargePrime: you can use, I don't know... cron?!?16:31
LargePrimei cant.  but i could learn16:32
Lego_Danhoping for much nicer video and openpanel.. yeah!!16:32
theD3viL11LargePrime: i know that KDE has one kind of a program for this..dont know how it is in gnome about that..16:32
UbersoldatLargePrime: ok, noob then... with cron you can schedule anything16:32
Jimbo__I'm not all that experienced with linux yet.. I downloaded a .tar and extracted it.  It told me to run ./configure and then make and then make install.  I extracted the tar into my home folder.  Is that okay or should I extract it somewhere else?16:32
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: oh.. :) in kubuntu will work ;)16:32
macman_i took a 71m file and did .bz2 71msorry to be annoying ..  i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?16:32
LargePrimeUbersoldat: can i make appointments and notes for them?16:33
UbersoldatJimbo__: that's ok... but I wouldn't be messing with a compiler if you're a noob16:33
Lego_Danthats what im hoping :) im sure the radeon 2400 HD will severly out proform the intel card..16:33
meinteJimbo__, don't forget to "sudo make install"16:33
meinteinstead of just make install16:33
macman_if i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?16:33
Lego_Dando i have to sudo in ubuntu or is su the same still?16:33
grawityJimbo__: tar should have created a new directory in your homedir. For example, if you had test-1.2.tar.gz, the folder would be named test-1.2/ -- so use 'cd' to go into that dir, and then run the ./configure command.16:33
grawityLego_Dan: sudo.16:33
Lego_Danah16:33
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: sudo16:34
Lego_Danls, cp, mkdir, rm -r,  all the same ?16:34
Lego_Danthanks16:34
prince_jammysLego_Dan: you don't HAVE to, but that's the recommended way16:34
heyongnihao16:34
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theD3viL11Lego_Dan: yes, the same..16:34
Lego_Dancool. so its only a few commands that change?16:34
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: when you work with system files you need to attached sudo.16:34
UbersoldatLargePrime: what?16:34
heyong what16:35
henryrhodesis there a way  to use the dvd for the eeepc to reload windows while in linux16:35
Lego_Danwhat do you mean? i usually just open a konsole, su, and do whatever i want....16:35
LargePrimeUbersoldat: i think evoluition is more what i need16:35
UbersoldatLargePrime: yes16:35
heyonghow can i use  ubuntu16:35
meinteLego_Dan, root is disabled by default16:35
mar77ihi, I'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)...16:35
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... or something like that16:35
meintein ubuntu16:35
prince_jammysLego_Dan: you can get a root shell session with 'sudo -i'16:35
Ubersoldatanyway, if you wan't the sytem to just nudge you about something you can use cron with xmessage... it's very simple16:36
Lego_Danah so you can just su, and say in it. you have to sudo -i16:36
henryrhodesi need to make the dvd image boot from from sd card16:36
Picassotamusheyong: You may want to be a bit more specific16:36
Otanachtwhats a good text editor for writing up code?16:36
meinteyes16:36
Otanachtplease16:36
henryrhodesi am working on linux now16:36
RopechoborraOtanacht, i guess Vi16:36
prince_jammysLego_Dan: well, ubuntu doesn't have the root account enabled by default. you'd have to enable it to use su. sudo works just as well16:36
meinteOtanacht, gedit/vim16:37
theD3viL11henryrhodes: Vim16:37
prince_jammys!rootsudo | Lego_Dan16:37
ubottuLego_Dan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)16:37
RopechoborraVim =X16:37
ZarroBoogs!best | Otanacht16:37
ubottuOtanacht: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:37
henryrhodesthanks16:37
prince_jammysLego_Dan: there's a brief comparison of sudo and su in that link, i think.16:37
Lego_Danok thanks, im also assuming vim is the text editor, like ee in bsd.16:37
FoolsRunHi, can someone point me to an explanation for the removal of the update notifier in Jaunty?16:37
mar77iokay, here are some key combinations I have tried: c-m-f1, c-m-backspace, c-m-f2... NO RESPONSE. I'm quite stuck on this now.16:37
FoolsRunJust so I can understand it better16:37
UbersoldatOtacon22: as I told someone before, today is April's Fool, not "Trollers Day"16:37
ZarroBoogsFoolsRun: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1 please.16:37
thom__how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???16:37
FoolsRunZarroBoogs: Sorry, I even knew that :)16:38
prince_jammysLego_Dan: nano and vim come installed. of course you can install whatever others you want16:38
Lego_Dancool. that includes ee16:38
prince_jammys(and ed)16:38
prince_jammysif you're a masochist16:38
meinteOtanacht, if you don't know how to use Vim you first need to find out, look it up in google i'd say16:38
theD3viL11anyone have intel graphic card?16:38
Lego_Danme :P16:38
Lego_Danmasochist ?? because i want to use ee.. its simple and works :P16:38
thom__anyone, how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???16:39
prince_jammysLego_Dan: i don't know ee, i was talking about ed16:39
theD3viL11Lego_Dan: hehe, you dont have ubuntu installed16:39
Lego_Danpkg_info|grep gtk ??16:39
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mar77ianyone?16:39
mar77iis there a way to boot to command line with an intrepid livecd?16:40
ottertoastmar77i, what was your question16:40
ottertoastmar77i, nevermind16:40
Lego_Dandid that work for ya thom_ ?16:40
Lego_Dani was guessing16:40
thom__<Lego_Dan>pkg_info: command not found16:40
Lego_Danhehe ok its a bsd but i was trying to help :P16:40
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mar77iI'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)... ctrl-alt-backspace nor ctrl-alt-f1 aren't working...16:40
prince_jammysmar77i: good question. you can't get to a console the usual way?16:40
prince_jammysah, ok.16:41
mar77ino.16:41
prince_jammysthat sucks16:41
Jimbo__I'm not sure if this is really an ubuntu question.. but I just installed gearmand and when I'm trying to start it I get this error: gearmand: error while loading shared libraries: libgearman.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory       Anybody know if something is weird with ubuntu?16:41
mar77iit does, big time.16:41
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hanthana|how to disable desktop effects in kubuntu, no way to use GUI, is there any way to disable it in cli?16:41
thom__<Lego_Dan> I'm using Ubuntu16:41
thom__<Lego_Dan> I'm using Ubuntu 8.1016:42
Lego_Danyea i know ... .but i thought i would try.. :P im getting ready to install ubuntu, and need to figure out which commands will transfer over .. sorry16:42
hanthana|not geeting any desktop icons, just blank screen16:42
Lego_Danand i thought it might be lucky if it worked16:42
prince_jammyshehe16:42
ZarroBoogsthom__: If you're running gnome then you have at least gtk2 installed.16:42
Blacksharkhi. i've got a problem with booting my server machine after upgrading the ram from 2gigs to 4 gigs. the error i am getting is something like "softreset failed (1st FIS failed)16:43
Blacksharkwhen i switch back to 2gigs the system is booting successfully16:43
LavandergirlBlackshark: 32bit OS?16:44
LjLBlackshark: sounds like bad RAM, have you used memtest?16:44
thom__ZarroBoogs : OK thanks16:44
Lego_Danwill a i386 boot with 4 gb16:44
mar77iI'm trying to boot to rl 4 or so... looking at the grub option on auntie google16:44
LjLLego_Dan: yes, it just won't see all of them16:44
KurlonWhat is the proper chan to ask questions in reguards to Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope?  (Or is this the right place?)16:44
Blackshark64 bit ubuntu 8.0416:44
papuHello everybody, i'm total newbie, does your help also includes Xubuntu16:44
LjL!jaunty > Kurlon    (Kurlon, see the private message from ubottu)16:44
Lego_Danah. ok16:44
hanthana|which file i should edit to disable desktop effects?16:44
geniiKurlon: #ubuntu+116:44
LjLpapu: yes, although there's also a specific #xubuntu channel you can use16:44
Lavandergirlhave you run memtest? might be a bad module16:44
BlacksharkLjL: i am 100% sure about the ram working correctly16:44
LjLBlackshark: how do you know that?16:45
digiforif mkfs.ext2 freezes while writing inode tables 267/1193...does that mean hd failure?16:45
henryrhodesI have thought of vim16:45
KurlonLjL/genii: Thanks!16:45
BlacksharkLjL: because i removed it from my windows server16:45
rackerhackeranyone pretty familiar with LVM that could take a look at a wild error on Ubuntu 7.10?16:45
Lego_Dani dunno man.. i had some ram recently that seemed to run stable but my windows system blue screen periodically.. memtest failed it 100 000 in under 2mins16:45
LjLBlackshark: well, it might not have been seated well, or may have got damaged during the move16:45
LjLBlackshark: although the error you mention should be SATA-related i think (but then bad RAM might cause any sort of error)16:46
digifordisregard16:46
mar77istrange though, I had a xorg working before with some arch-like linux...16:46
papuI want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same16:46
Lego_Dani agree with LjL after the catastrophy i had with my ram16:46
BlacksharkLjL: okay i'll do a memtest on the ram and get back to you when i find something16:47
thom__Umm how to solve USB-Flash disk that 'read-only system'??16:47
LjLBlackshark: i think it's a good idea. you don't need to run a very long memtest anyway, just do a quick check, 5 minutes or so16:47
LjLthom__: what filesystem is there on it?16:47
thom__Fat3216:48
thom__LjL : Fat3216:48
LjLthom__: did you mount it manually?16:48
thom__LjL : automatic by my machine16:48
LjLthom__: where is it mounted? (should be /media/disk or somesuch)16:48
thom__LjL : but it solved if I got Windos and do attrib on it16:49
LjLhm?16:49
hanthana|LjL: PING16:49
Lego_Danok all, well thanks for the info, I'll be back after i muck the kubuntu install :P16:49
thom__LjL " yeah in /media/16:49
LjLhanthana|: PONG16:50
LjLthom__: /media/what? do "ls -ld" on it and check the permissions16:50
hanthana|LjL: is there any way to disable desktop effects by editing a text file ? i mean if we can not access GUI16:50
thom__LjL : for information, It usually coz the Flash-disk was from Windows with Virus influenced16:50
LjLhanthana|: i have no idea16:50
weverIs there a reason for xorg to have to separate processes?16:51
hanthana|LjL: one of my friend got blank screen after he enabled desktop effects16:51
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lianimatorhanthana|: if you cannot access GUI? then how will you see the effects anyway?16:51
hanthana|no luck after restart16:51
archmanLjL, thank you for "opening my dumb eyes". I "sweeped" everything, and now it's all goood! thanks! :)16:51
archmanLjL, i can't even hear a fan now :)16:51
vigoHow do I start a pkg automatically at boot, it requires /sudo or /su.16:52
arkanabarcan anyone suggest a lightweight, graphical POP3 email client?16:52
hanthana|lianimator: after enabling effects he can loging but no icons etc16:52
LjLvigo: "start a pkg"?16:52
lakeofteathunderbird ;)16:52
Ubersoldatarkanabar: evolution16:52
regeyaTHUNDERBIRD, lightweight...16:52
regeyao_O16:52
lakeofteaoutlook16:52
regeyasylpheed16:52
lakeofteaaids16:53
vigoLjL: the graphical firewall doohicky. I want it to start at boot, also maybe some mail fetch things.16:53
the10nitroI don't suppose there is an option to do like "wget -N address", but only check the timestamp, not size?16:53
papuCan anyone help a total newbie on priv?16:53
LjLvigo: you want to start a *graphical* app at boot? that doesn't seem like a good idea. which firewall is that anyway?16:53
Mean_Adminso here I am, trying smbumount and getting "Device busy" answer16:54
vigoLjL: Firestarter16:54
regeyaif it's firestarter, it uses an init script; the gui app is just a frontend16:54
vigoThank you16:54
LjLvigo: what regeya said. i can't see a valid reason to start the GUI of it on boot.16:54
Mean_Adminso then, what's up, how am I supposed to unmount a samba share ?16:55
vigoI have to ask some questions that may help me and help others.16:55
tuxtoxHi!  I install 8.1 on a partition that was factory made.  The other partition has windows vista.  I cannot see the windows partition in ubuntu, and I cannot see the ubuntu partition in windows.  How do I fix that?16:56
sachaeldoes anyone remember the terminal command which gives info about a window you click on?16:56
the10nitroIs there a way to get a file only if the timestamp is newer than the local copy?  "wget -N" gets the file if they are different in size.  I don't want it to check size.16:56
LjLsachael: xwininfo16:56
hbekelsachael: xprop, xwininfo16:56
arkanabartuxtox:  for vista, download & install ext2IFS16:56
sachaelLjL, hbekel: thanks, these were the ones16:56
tuxtoxarkanabar download that in ubuntu?  using the syn. pac. man.?16:57
Lego_Danok whats a LAMP server? do I not just install each separately  (apache, php, mysql, openpanel, etc)16:57
Pupuser402-1!lamp16:57
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)16:57
papuI want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same. What may be the problem?16:58
Lego_Danok so i dont' have to but its a way to speed up the process, basically16:58
Lego_Danlike a all in one package16:58
sachaelomg, is there a way to turn the awful pink skin of ubuntuforums? it is really embarassing >:(16:59
the10nitroLego_Dan: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server16:59
LeninHello anyone there?17:00
Lego_Danoh cool...17:00
Lego_Danthanks17:00
the10nitrono prob17:00
qimohello,everybody17:01
Ubersoldatwhy everyone uses apt instead of aptitude?17:01
Lego_Danand after that just add the mail server stuff/ ftp and openpanel and done ?17:01
grawityUbersoldat: probably because it works better for "everyone"17:01
qimo???no one chat with me?17:02
Lego_DanI will chat with you qimo17:02
* grawity greets qimo.17:02
Lego_Danwhats up :P17:02
the10nitroyeah, the install process will ask you to set up a MySQL password17:02
arkanabartuxtox:  no.  ext2IFS lets Windows (2K, Vista, XP, and even Me) read linux file systems.  google, download, and install it in vista.17:02
arkanabartuxtox:  to see vista partition in Ubuntu, you have to mount the partition, which usually requires a password.17:02
Droopsta915is there such a thing as a automotive chat room around here?17:03
Ubersoldatgrawity: I haven't had any problem with aptitude, that's why I ask17:03
Lego_Dan... now who's not talking :P17:03
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grawityUbersoldat: I haven't had any problem with apt either.17:03
saucecan anyone tell me where the drivers folder is located?17:03
tavastihow I use update-python-modules when I have installed new theme for moinmoin?17:03
Lego_Dan :( i say hi to the guy and he leave :P17:03
scunizisauce: what are you trying to install?17:04
Lego_Danam i that repulsive :P17:04
* Lego_Dan thinks i shouldn't have asked that17:04
sauceim just trying to find my bc43 driver to back it up17:04
tuxtoxarkanabar ok i just downloaded it.  I will reboot and install and ill come back and report. thanks17:04
scunizi!ot | Lego_Dan17:04
ubottuLego_Dan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!17:04
the10nitrowget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps17:05
scunizisauce: no need if you installed from the ubuntu repos .. like from synaptic or aptitude or apt-get.. let their servers hold it for you17:05
vigoIf I were to buy a book to help me relearn this stuff, UNIX or Debian or (some other)?17:05
saucehow do i check that?17:05
lianimatorwhat's more suitable for downloading large files (which usually stop halfway in firefox and needs to be downloaded from the beginning)? aria or gwget17:06
midknihtarkanabar, is that like arkansas?17:06
arinHDLJKHD'17:06
the10nitroIt's not about partial downloads, it's about compressed files.17:06
arthurLlianimator: Torrents17:06
scunizivigo: start with http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html and then check www.scribd.com for other ubuntu/linux pdf that are downloadable or viewable.. for real paper I enjoyed "Beginning Ubuntu Linux by Thomas17:07
lianimatorarthurL: that wasn't my question though. I'm trying to download WoP..17:07
the10nitrolianimator: wget handles that pretty well17:07
hybr1deri dont really get this with samba, am i supposed to be able to use ubuntus accounts, so that a windows machine wants to access ubuntu it uses ubuntus accounts to login?17:07
sauceso i found my driver in synaptics manager17:08
saucedoes it stay on the server?17:09
scunizisauce: then you got it from the ubuntu repositories.. no need to back up the driver.. you'd have to do it with the .deb file anyway not the raw driver files that are installed.17:09
lianimatorthe10nitro: thanks. man wget for me17:09
LargePrimeis their a recommended PDF editor?17:09
sauceso when i do a reinstall all i have to do is open the synaptic manager and reinstall fwcutter?17:09
ZarroBoogshybr1der: Yes.17:09
vigoscunizi: Thank you.17:09
scuniziLargePrime: the one I've finally gotten to work well for me is pdfedit.  It's in the repos.. add and delete pages, annotate etc..17:10
scunizivigo: np17:10
the10nitroquestion: wget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps?17:10
clearscreen!repeat | the10nitro17:10
ubottuthe10nitro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience17:10
LargePrimescunizi: thanks.  where is the repos?17:10
catoxhello everyone,,I'm coming....17:10
ZarroBoogsZarroBoogs: Er. I think at least. I don't have access to a linux computer at the moment to check.17:11
Geometryhello, anyone ever used byzanz gif creator ?17:11
arkanabarLargePrime:  access the repos with either apt (command line) or synaptic (GUI) package manager.17:11
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LargePrimearkanabar: thanks17:11
ActionParsnipyo yo yo17:11
arussel1I have a set of schema, how can I add them to a ldap ?17:12
scuniziLargePrime: if you look in the file called /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic you'll see the references for them.. in synaptic you'll also be able to change the servers to find a faster one for updates, program installs etc.17:12
clearscreenthe10nitro: if bandwidth isn't a problem, a simple bash script should suffice.. if it is.. then I dont have a clue, sorry ;)17:12
arussel1I tried to just add them to /etc/ldap/schema but I still can't see them with ApacheDirectory.17:12
LargePrimescunizi: thanks again17:12
saucescunizi: thanks man! hopefully my reinstall will run smooth17:13
scuniziLargePrime: takes a while to wrap your head around all the different ways of doing things in linux.. fun though17:13
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scunizisauce: why are you reinstalling?17:13
LargePrimescunizi: agreeded.  and fun.  So i am in synaptic.  how do i find pdfedit?17:13
catoxhow use to ubuntu ,....i dont know..17:14
BlacksharkLjL: i did a quick memtest scan but no errors were found. is there a possibility the grub isn't accepting the 4gig?17:14
scuniziLargePrime: click the search button and type pdfedit17:14
UUB1I am trying to run a .sh file and wine keeps trying to run it automatically, so I go to terminal then type sh <file> and i get sh: Can't open.  How do i run it?17:14
clearscreenUUB1: chmod +x file.sh && sh file.sh17:14
saucescunizi: this was just a trial run i didnt allocate a large enough partition of my dual boot for my liking17:14
LargePrimefunny i just saw that.  noobish17:14
scuniziLargePrime: or if you're in Intrepid 8.04 there's also a quick search box.17:14
BlacksharkLjL: when i put only 3gigs into the machine it still is working17:14
NithrinWhich is better? Guarddog or Firestarter?17:14
clearscreen!better17:15
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:15
ZarroBoogs!tutorial | catox17:15
ubottucatox: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com17:15
scunizisauce: so try expanding the partitions with .... ta da.. a live cd :)17:15
LargePrimescunizi: i am 8.04 .  a who what box?17:15
scuniziLargePrime: you won't have a quick search box in 8.04.. just click the search button.. that'll work.17:15
LargePrimeoh i am hardy and scu said intreped17:15
saucescunizi: i would try but i messed up this installation trying to back up my setting i ran the memory down to 0 and invoked some type of safe mode17:16
Geometryhello, anyone ever used byzanz animated gif creator ? or can tell me where to find the 'window manager'17:16
makarioHow can I view an image fullscreen through the terminal?17:16
JediMasterhey guys, does anyone know anyting about link aggregation?17:16
yow|x2Geometry - its a gnome applet the last i checked17:16
evilbugwould flash (sites, videos, etc.) lag on an eee pc?17:16
fosco__makario, try zgv, not sure if it is in repos17:16
arkanabarGeometry:  Window manager is selected by display manager, part of the graphical login screen.17:17
Geometryok how do i open it or w/e need to see what class/name it gives to my windows17:17
Mba7ethhi guys ... i lost my windows password... can i reset it from ubuntu ?17:18
Geometrynot likely, there are ways17:18
Geometrygoogle a bit17:18
arkanabargeometry:  are you trying to find out the window borders theme name?17:18
ActionParsnipMba7eth: theres a recovery toll on the ultimate boot cd, that can be used to blank the password off17:18
LargePrimehow can i check if my wireless is working while connected wired?17:19
Mba7ethActionParsnip What is the ultimate boot cd ?17:19
Geometryarkanabar, i'm trying to find out what my linux calls my windows, cuz this prog needz the exact name17:19
saucelargeprime: if your wireless card is turned on it will still detect networks when wired17:19
ActionParsnipMba7eth: www.ultimatebootcd.com17:19
GeometryLargePrime, try iwconfig or ifconfig17:19
LargePrimeMba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator17:19
Geometryit should show your wireless card17:20
Mba7ethLargePrime I lost it :(17:20
ActionParsnipMba7eth: if you log on as administrator you can reset any local password, if you have lost your admin password you need the UBCD17:20
mib_6r44sw82Anyone know why my desktop top and bottom bars have disappeared (ubuntu 8.10) despite multiple restarts and how i might fix it?17:20
LargePrimeMba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator17:20
LargePrimesafemode in windows admin password is null.  i dont think it can be set17:21
LargePrimebig hole in win17:21
jameswfdid you guys see microsoft is promoting Jaunty :http://www.live.com/17:21
clearscreenlol no17:21
shadeslayerLjL: you there?17:22
clearscreenthis is really offtopic, but the admin password in safemode is just the password of administrator account.. it's set during setup17:22
jameswfthat should be the 9.04 login screen17:22
dugudule#eurix17:23
arkanabargeometry : Ah, you're looking for the path or full directory name, yes?17:23
LargePrimeclearscreen:  i dont think so.  i have hacked a few machines that way.17:23
Geometry--class=CLASS            Program class as used by the window manager17:24
Geometry  --name=NAME              Program name as used by the window manager17:24
Geometryi need that17:24
clearscreenLargePrime: you might not think so, but you'd be wrong :P17:24
makarioHow can I figure out which computer uses SSH access with nmap? I forgot the IP address. >.<17:24
archmanHow to access "Sessions" window from Run? what's the command?17:25
prince_jammysGeometry: xprop17:25
clearscreenmakario: nmap -sS -sV -vv -P0 -p 22 1.1.1.1-25517:25
clearscreenmakario: you'll need to run that as sudo btw17:25
abhrais there a way to connect nokia phones with ubuntu?17:25
makarioThanks, clearscreen17:25
addahello17:26
abhrahello17:26
* grawity greets adda.17:26
ActionParsnipmakario: check for listening port 22 (default)17:26
addahow are u?17:26
Samperanyone from Ottawa Ontario hanging out in this channel?17:26
Samper(canada)17:26
abhrais there a way to connect nokia with ubuntu?17:27
archmanabhra, we already heard you. want and maybe someone will answer...17:27
archmanwait*17:27
abhraok thanks17:27
murlidharabhra: do u want to use internet from ur phone ?17:28
BluhawkWhy inthe world can I not get the flash player to work in Firefox.  I have dl'd and installed the newest flash player, but still can not get any streams to play from Stickam or Ustream...17:28
adda......i`m bored:((17:28
macman_how can i mv or cp all files in one command to an external and leave out 1 folder ?17:28
archmanadda, ok, then tell me how to run "sessions" window via alt+f2 ;) :D17:29
kora-chanhi, i wanted to make my ntfs harddrive mount automatically with write privileges for my user, so i added " /dev/sdb1       /media/pladde   fuse    user    0       0" to my fstab. when i plug it in it says my user has no permission to mount blick device. what do i need to to? any advice?17:29
GeometryBluhawk, have you any java programs open ?17:29
Mean_Adminright, so I have this /bin/sh scrip that does stuff and when I call in a terminal with "./name of script" it works just fine. However, when I  create a Launcher, it reports    Failed to execute child process "./home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname" (No such file or directory17:29
abhramurli no .i just want to use pc suite functions17:29
vigoBluhawk: SWF or gnash or the others?17:29
LargePrimeHow do i view wireless networks while still connected wired17:29
mbeierljameswf: I don't see anything at live.com which indicates jaunty... what did you mean?17:30
arkanabar  http://www.live.com/ for jackalope info.  But no ubuntu info UNLESS you search News.....17:30
addaarchman......i`m using linux not windows17:30
UbersoldatMean_Admin: don't place a . on the start of that17:30
archmanadda, lol x 100017:30
Ubersoldatjust "/home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname"17:30
freelancewebI am running openSSH version 4.6p1 but i want to upgrade to 4.8 or above. Using apt-get only patches17:30
mbeierlSamper: Ottawa here... Kanata actually17:30
adda+ i am girl.....17:30
BluhawkGeo, vigo,  No java I know of, and SWF I do belive...17:30
archmanadda, what made you think I thought you were using windows? :D17:30
murlidharabhra: u mean u want to transfer files or backup contacts ...?17:31
ActionParsnip!info openssh-server17:31
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: with no .  the script just doesn't do anything :(17:31
ubottuopenssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:5.1p1-3ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 278 kB, installed size 764 kB17:31
abhrayes murli17:31
ActionParsnipfreelanceweb: 5.1p1 is in the repo17:31
LargePrimeCan i view wireless networks while still connected wired?17:31
jameswfmbeierl, its a jackalope17:31
vigoBluhawk: You may need to get the Java stuff to make that work17:31
addaarchman...i`m from roumania.....i don`t understand very well...17:31
archmanLargePrime, sure, with nm applet17:31
UbersoldatMean_Admin: pastebin the script17:32
murlidharabhra: to transfer files u can use ur phone as pen drive.. which u should be having that feature in ur phone ...17:32
LargePrimearchman: what is a nm applet?17:32
archmanLargePrime, or wifi-radar17:32
archmanLargePrime, network manager ;)17:32
mbeierlarkanabar, jameswf: only on live.com if you change the location to United States17:32
freelancewebActionParsnip : I have 5.1 on my 8.10 box but how do I get it on my 7.10 box?17:32
murlidharabhra: to backup contacts u need an application which i don't remember the name...just wait let me search for it17:32
Bluhawkviggo...OOOhhhh ok, will try that.  Ya, you would need the java I do belive...Duuuuu17:32
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Sampermbeierl: I am starting up a community group here in Ottawa called Computers For Communities (http://computersforcommunities.ca). The recipe is simple, take cats off computers from those throwing them out, slap on Ubuntu and traing people on how to use it. then give the computers away to those facing barriers to adopting technology. Perhaps you might know some people in the local Linux community that may be interested. perhaps yourself.17:33
ActionParsnip!info openssh-server gutsy17:33
ubottuopenssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.6 (gutsy), package size 243 kB, installed size 644 kB17:33
adda......i`m baka...:(17:33
mbeierljameswf: I'm in Canada, and there's no image in the background until I changed the locale17:33
archmanLargePrime, you can actually view wireless networks by issuing "iwlist scan"17:33
juacohello17:33
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: there you go : http://pastebin.com/m38d0467017:33
jameswfmbeierl, ahh stupid redmond17:33
ActionParsnipfreelanceweb: you could compile the source, or find a PPA with the new version for gutsy17:33
archmanadda: no place to chat, so...goto ubuntu chat channel for this..17:33
ActionParsnip!gutsy17:33
ubottuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10 - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour17:33
abhrayeah i know that.but i want to use the pc suite function not the mass mode.its not good enough.thanks for searching though17:33
LargePrimearchman: ok so my wless has the wrong driver i think17:34
ActionParsnipfreelanceweb: gutsy (i think is EOL soon)17:34
ActionParsnip!eol17:34
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases17:34
murlidharabhra: install these two applications gammu and gmobilemedia17:34
archmanLargePrime: Your wlan card doesn't work?17:34
UbersoldatMean_Admin: don't do sudo in a script, take out all the sudo's and execute the script with sudo17:34
mavenif i wanted to install the driver for my sound card, where would i start?17:34
ActionParsnipfreelanceweb: yep, end of this month17:34
mbeierlSamper: I'm doing something similar for my kids17:34
murlidharabhra: gmobilemedia can transfer files from ur phone and vice versa17:34
LargePrimearchman: it is not scanning17:34
danand!flash | danand17:34
ubottudanand, please see my private message17:34
mbeierlSamper: I'm doing something similar for my kids's school.  (sorry ' and enter are too close)17:34
addaarchman i`m going to F*** myself17:34
maven!sound17:35
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:35
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: how can I tell the lancuhy to execute with sudo ? like "sudo /path/to/script"?17:35
addabye17:35
LargePrimearchman: it is a broadcom 43XX and this is a known problem i think17:35
Ubersoldatyes17:35
AntiNekoHey all! I've really messed up my audio settings - is there a way to reinstall everything to the default settings without reinstalling Ubuntu?17:35
abhraok i'm searching17:35
archmanLargePrime: cool, i got bcm4311, the cards work ;)17:35
murlidhar!gammu | abhra17:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gammu17:35
murlidhar!info gammu  | abhra17:35
archman!flame17:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flame17:35
murlidhar!info gammu > abhra17:36
juacoi have a gateway to internet on my lan, and it is forwarding some ports to my machine with DNAT. If i have such gateway as my default route in my machine, do i have to also do SNAT --to thegateway for packets DNAT'ed to me?17:36
vigoAntiNeko: Yes, choose the install at bootup, or use the backups17:36
murlidhar!test17:36
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.17:36
abhra!gammu17:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about gammu17:36
archmanLargePrime: goto Hardware Drivers17:36
LargePrimearchman: is it a new card or an older one?17:36
AntiNekovigo: You mean like a restore?17:36
murlidharabhra: its a gammu - Mobile phone management utility17:36
AntiNekovigo: I know I've used X-server recovery one17:36
AntiNekovigo: once*17:36
archmanLargePrime: And choose b43 driver for your card. what distro you on btw.?17:36
vigoAntiNeko: Yes, there is a Restore thing in the list17:36
murlidharabhra: u can manage ur contacts and other stuff from this application17:37
AntiNekovigo: Awesome! Will check it out. Thanks!!17:37
abhrathanks17:37
murlidharnp17:37
LargePrimearchman: 8.04 .  it wants to know if it should extrach firmware?17:37
clearscreenBluhawk: dunno if you fixed it yet, just grab ubuntu-restricted-extras :)17:37
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: it's a win :)17:37
archmanLargePrime: I think you don't, it was before that we needed to do it...17:37
Lego_Danum when kubuntu is done installing and i reboot, will i have to kdm or something to boot to kde? or will it automatically do it?17:38
archmanLargePrime: Why don't you check that? (Hardware Drivers)17:38
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: thanks you17:38
clearscreenLego_Dan: it should boot KDE by default17:39
Mean_AdminUbersoldat: woudl you think/know if this would work similary on a mac ?17:39
BluhawkClearscreen thanks....willl try17:39
UbersoldatMean_Admin: sure17:39
excalibasHello, I can connect to the local network but cant connect to the internet on my eee (intrepid) no one seems to be able to help me. anny ideas. please17:39
Mean_Admincool :)17:39
Lego_Danis there a way to disable that?17:39
arkanabar!best | arkanabar17:39
ubottuarkanabar, please see my private message17:39
UbersoldatMean_Admin: just make sure ssh is on $PATH17:39
Mckaganholas17:39
* Ubersoldat leaving17:39
LolzBonjour il y 'a quelqu'un ?17:40
archmanLargePrime: I'm here for only 10mins more if you need help...17:40
LargePrimearchman: i did.  it seems the proprietary drivers were not enabled.  i enabled them , it dlded a file, and asked to extract firmware.  i didnot check that box and continued, and then it went back to Hardware manager and still has no proprietary driver enabled17:40
archmanLargePrime: Yes, check the extraction!17:41
LargePrimearchman: sorry but how?17:41
archmanLargePrime: It will do everything automatically, i think, i don't remember really...17:41
archmancheck the box17:41
LargePrimearchman: ofcourse.  one sec17:41
archmancool17:42
mrsteveman1is the forum site down or is this a joke17:42
Lego_Danis there a way to disable the auto boot of kde? to boot to a terminal instead?17:42
nathan7mrsteveman1: lol17:43
nathan7Lego_Dan: Sec.17:43
Lego_Danok17:43
nathan7Lego_Dan: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove17:43
jatthi, I open a file with .tex extension using firefox. When I click on the URL a window titled "Opening gant.tex" is shown. When I choose Browse... in that window I get the message: "The application you chose ("(null)") could not be found".17:43
LargePrimearch restarting17:43
jattHow do I tell firefox to open gedit instead?17:44
Lego_Danthanks17:44
AntiNekovigo: Which one do I run? I don't see any sound-stuff under the Recovery Menu.17:44
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vigoAntiNeko: Which version are you on?17:44
AntiNeko8.1017:45
AntiNekovigo: But I was kinda surpirsed to find a second kernel to run. There was kernel 1 and kernel 1 recovery, and then a second one with normal and recovery.17:45
nathan7AntiNeko: Is normal.17:46
nathan7AntiNeko: Old kernels are kept.17:46
AntiNekonathan7: Ah, ok17:46
arkanabarjatt:  right click link, hopefully you will see "open with" in context menu.17:46
LargePrimebah17:47
arkanabarjatt:  if not, save file to desktop or home folder, start gedit, and browse for file.17:47
AntiNekovigo: My audio settings are messed up. I uninstalled ALSA when installing OSS (I thought OSS would solve some stuff) and by doing that I also disabled PulseAudio. Now when I've restored ALSA and Pulse, everything is just a big pile of settings and nothing seems to work predicably. I just wanna restore the default sound settings and the devices in Sound Preferences17:48
JediMastercan anyone suggest a nice easy command line VPN program?17:48
ctpwould you recommend jaunty as 32 or as 64 bit version on a amd64 desktop? i see no really use for 64-bit arch on desktop ;-)17:48
lakeofteahow can i make ubuntu brew my coffee in the morning?17:48
fosco__!coffee | lakeoftea17:49
ubottulakeoftea: coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java17:49
fosco__:-)17:49
little_unixall! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj4517:49
dayolakeoftea: cron17:49
little_unixhotplug will detect?17:49
little_unixand17:49
little_unixwork fine?17:49
dayo!cron | lakeoftea17:49
ubottulakeoftea: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm17:49
vigoAntiNeko: Ratso, I just passed that page, going back17:49
Raylzeurope/berlin has gmt+2 right?17:51
AntiNeko+1 I believe17:51
LargePrimeI am having a problem with the hardware drivers application.  i am trying to enable "Broadcom b43 wireless driver".  when i enable it gives a message "While this driver itself is free software, it relies on proprietary firmware which cannot be legally shipped with the operating system. Your hardware will not work without the firmware."  i click enable then nothing happens.  the first time i did this it downloaded a file and asked me if i wished to extr17:52
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Lint01+2 since Sunday17:52
vigoAntiNeko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting<<that is one of the pages I found, it is pretty easy to follow17:52
jmzAnyone here running ubuntu on an i7 system ?17:53
jmzGuess not lol17:54
AntiNekovigo: My sound was working well out of the box, I just couldn't change the default sound source. So a restore-thing would be nice. My apps didn't care what I put in Sound Preferences17:54
AntiNekovigo: I'll check it out17:55
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vigoAntiNeko: That one should resolve the error.17:56
nvstp1If you want to enable B43 wireless, you need to install the firmware for it17:56
ActionParsnip!broadcom17:56
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:56
LargePrimenvstp thanks17:56
DaveChanninNewbie question: I added the kalarm application and it installed (and runs fine). TFM says it should appear in the Application menu under the appropriate category, but it doesn't. If I start it manually from terminal window all is well. Ideas on how to get it to appear in Apps menu?17:56
nvstp1First, you need to install a package with name begin with b43-xxxx17:57
jercosb43-fwcutter?17:58
jercos(only package i remember starting with b43 offhand)17:58
jribjercos: have you checked System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?17:59
little_unixall! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj4517:59
little_unixhotplug will detect?17:59
little_unixand work fine?17:59
Lego_Danquit17:59
Mean_Adminso I want to make a script that (amongst other things) kills a ssh tunnel.. is there a /etc/init.d/ssh_client restart thing I can use ?17:59
lantjiehey guys17:59
conficker_hello world...!!17:59
pablo__hello, how do i do to mount an ext4 partition in an old system, cannot i ?18:00
lantjiehello18:00
shadeslayer:O18:00
ActionParsnipMean_Admin: theres /etc/init.d/ssh restart18:00
dayo!welcome | conficker_18:00
ubottuconficker_: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.18:00
jercosjrib: eh? of course I have, but I'm somewhat unrelated. just popped in to deposit two cents18:00
shadeslayerconficker_: u cant spread here :P18:00
abhrahow to convert .lit into .prc?18:00
AntiNekovigo: Hmm! My USB headset is not in the ALSA supported card-section.18:00
jribjercos: heh, same...18:00
ghindoconficker_: Nooooooo18:01
Legook.18:01
jercoslol18:01
vigoAntiNeko: Uhm, erm, forums? USB?18:01
nvstp1pablo__: I think you need to re-build the kernel to support ext4 filesystem18:01
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DSpairLego_Dan, How'd the install go?18:01
Mean_AdminActionParsnip: that's for ssh daemon, nein ?18:02
lantjiepablo_: mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/(your_drive_name) then mount it to a folder. its like this:mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/sda1 /media/mountfolder18:02
jercospablo__: if you don't want to muck around updating your kernel and just want to get at some data you could compile User Mode Linux from recent sources and mount the disk inside that.18:02
little_unixall! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45, this is work fine?18:02
ActionParsnipMean_Admin: yeah18:02
douglis it possible to have X gui running on my 8.04 for a user on my 8.10 box?18:02
jercoslantjie: ntfs-3g is related to ext4 how?18:03
ActionParsnipMean_Admin: you could have a command to run: killall <something>18:03
DSpairdougl, Probably, but we'll need more details to be sure.18:03
Mean_AdminActionParsnip: right18:03
AntiNekovigo: This is too complicated for me. I've installed and uninstalled too much stuff in my quest to get the microphone on my USB headset to work.18:03
salvatore_ciao18:03
AntiNekovigo: What about the restore stuff you were talking about?18:03
douglDSpair, thanks - what is that called? ie what should I google for?18:03
DSpairdougl, Nothing, remote GUI is built into X Windows.18:04
douglDSpair, hmm... thanks :)18:04
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DSpairdougl, All you have to do is set your DISPLAY environment variable to the machine where you want the display to show up.18:04
lantjiejercos: because ext3 is related to ext4.18:05
lantjiejercos: i had this problem for manytimes18:05
douglDSpair, thanks - googling DISPLAY environment18:06
DSpairdougl, What is it you're trying to accomplish?18:06
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janisozauri've downloaded firefox 3.5 from launchpad (fta), how can i make it my default browser?18:06
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jercoslantjie: but... never mind.18:06
lianimatordoes anyone play liquidwars?18:06
DSpairjanisozaur, Using Gnome?18:06
pablo__thanks nvstp1 but i think compiling ext4 generated problems on my system , jercos compile User Mode Linux from recent sources , there is something more easy ?18:06
janisozaurDSpair: yes18:07
* jercos rolls his eyes18:07
dougltrying to have X display on ubuntu 8.04 box for user logged in on 8.10 box18:07
jercosI think I lost IQ points from idling here :(18:07
DSpairjanisozaur, Go to "System->Preferences->Preferred Applications"18:07
ActionParsnipjanisozaur: sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser18:07
pablo__!jercos iq18:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jercos iq18:07
pablo__22018:07
pablo__O.O18:07
DSpairdougl, So you want the applications to run on the 8.10 box but you want the display on the 8.04 box?18:07
douglDSpair, exactly18:08
ghanghi , i would like to know , where is pidgin plugin folder path18:08
lantjiepablo:The ext4 filesystem is backward compatible with ext3 and ext2, making it possible to mount ext3 and ext2 filesystems as ext418:08
NasraI have a question regarding firestarter package....do I really firewall installed in my computer or not and if so is not ...how do I remove it?18:08
DSpairOK, for the 8.04 box, open a terminal. SSH to the 8.10 box with "ssh -X -C <user>@<host>"18:08
pablo__[lantjie] but i want to use ext4 in ext3, not ext3 in ext418:08
DSpairdougl, Then, once you have opened the SSH session, and graphical applications you start in the SSH terminal will be displayed on the 8.04 machine.18:09
pablo__i have to many gigas in ext418:09
AntiNekovigo: Found something here...18:09
Nasrawhat is command for remove a program?18:09
Nasrathanks18:09
lantjieghang: it's in your home folder18:09
DSpairdougl, If you want to provide a complete desktop environment from the 8.10 box, you'll want to look into XDMCP18:09
rkviraniQuick question, what packages do I need for 32-bit compatibility?18:09
ActionParsnipNasra: you have ip tables installed already, if you are behind a router its not hugely essential, depends how security scared you are18:09
vigoAntiNeko: On the forums?18:09
rkviraniI tried googling but nothing18:09
grawityNasra: apt-get remove packagename18:10
wenkohelp! how do I get conficker off my Ubuntu box18:10
Nasrayes  I have a router18:10
Nasrabehind it18:10
ActionParsniprkvirani: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs18:10
douglDSpair, VERY helpful = thanks very much...18:10
ActionParsnipNasra: you should be ok18:10
lantjiepablo_:ext4 can also be used with ext3 and ext2, such as the new block allocation algorithm.18:10
ghanglantjie  : i can't find it , i just wanna add a lib into the plugin folder18:10
DSpairdougl, No problem.18:10
* dougl is googling XDMCP18:10
Nasraokay thanks alot ActionParsnip | grawity:18:10
Nasrathanks18:10
lantjieghang:it's hidden18:10
AntiNekovigo: I wrote in the forums about my probb a while back but no replies yet. I found something on that article you sent. I just gotta be patient here. "configuring default soundcards"18:10
pablo__[lantjie] ok that is what i want, but i cannot in a fresh 8.10 install18:11
rkviraniActionParsnip: thanks bud!18:11
ghanglantjie:  there is no .pidgin , what is the folder name18:11
janisozaurDSpair, ActionParsnip: thanks18:11
ActionParsnipghang: shoulddddddbe ~/.purpe18:11
DSpairjanisozaur, No problem.18:11
mrluapdoes anyone know how to edit an existing route?18:11
DSpairmrluap, You cannot in Linux. You have to remove the old route and add the new one.18:11
vigoAntiNeko: Ah, yes, that seemed like the correct page for me to refer you to.18:12
ghangthanks , is .purple18:12
Julianwho can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?18:12
lantjiepablo_: ext4 can be mounted as an ext3 partition (using ext3 as the filesystem type when mounting)18:12
shadymr66hi allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll18:12
DSpairBRB18:12
shadymr66hi there18:12
shadymr66please any one help me18:13
shadymr66to adjust my wireless on ubuntu18:13
lantjieghang: do this in your terminal: locate pidgin. and you will find it i promise18:13
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shadymr66you you you18:13
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Julianhow can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?18:14
Ztripezhi, i bought myself a usb-pen drive.. now i want to use it as a hardkey to my luks-partitions.. aka must have the pendrive in a usb port when i boot up for the drives to mount.. anyone know any good docs on how to do this?18:14
lantjieshadymr66: do iwconfig in your terminal and look what name your wireless card has and then do ifconfig name up18:15
AntiNekovigo: It's opening a file in a Terminal which I can edit, like a text-file, but how do I save it?18:17
lantjiehey guys i need some advise. is java good to program with18:17
lantjie?18:17
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recv-exechelo18:19
ghindo!hello | recv-exec18:19
ubotturecv-exec: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!18:19
Steven3khi, does someone know which programs are included in initrd image? i need to run a script in initrd and i'm wondering which ones I can use18:19
debsanlantjie, it depends on what you want to program. but yes, its good and easy.18:20
nvstp1busybox is in initrd18:20
lantjiedebson:i want to make programs.18:20
nvstp1Steven3k, the commands you can use in initrd are supported by busybox18:21
Steven3knvstp1, thanks. no other binaries are included by default?18:21
rkviraniWhats that command to bring up the ubuntu-server installer?18:21
lantjiehey the guy who is looking for initrd read this first.http://ww2.cs.fsu.edu/~rosentha/linux/2.6.26.5/docs/initrd.txt18:22
geniirkvirani: Something like: sudo tasksel install lamp-server18:22
rkviranigenli, eah tasksel I think I will check it out18:23
nvstp1Steven3k, yes, they are linked to busybox18:23
LargePrimenvstp1: thanks my wireless card works now18:23
Steven3knvstp1, ok :) thank you. I don't really need anything else, just wondering ^^18:23
cemcanybody here any experience with thermal zones and powersaved on a HP 8510p notebook ?18:23
nvstp1LargePrime, not at all18:24
LargePrimenvstp1: no.  it works completely LOLz18:24
vigoAntiNeko:Use nano or something like it18:24
nvstp1LargePrime: :)18:25
scuniziany scribus fans? I got a question. How do I line up the left edge of 3 identical vertically stacked shapes?18:25
LargePrimeok anyone have a list of "Must Have" addons to ubuntu.  (8.04 lts)18:25
scuniziLargePrime: irssi for IRC on the terminal or TTY for when the gui won't start and you need help18:26
DSpairLargePrime, There was a good article on WirksWithU.com this week about that exact topic.18:26
DSpairs/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/18:26
AntiNekovigo: It's all messed up. It don't care what I change, it's still playing through the speakers and not the headset.18:26
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n3rd4ihow can i use LINK's as int WINDOWS XP shortcuts ?18:27
DSpairn3rd4i, You can't. Windows doesn't do soft links.18:27
LargePrimeirssi is better than pidgin for irc?18:27
n3rd4iwell i want to get the same thing as in WINODWS when i do LINK to as spec file18:28
nvstp1n3rd4i, you can use command "ln"18:28
n3rd4iwith ABSOLUTE path18:28
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DSpairn3rd4i, The closest Linux alternative in Linux is the ".desktop" files which are application/file launchers.18:28
n3rd4iwhat LN does?18:28
scuniziLargePrime: most anything is better then pidgin.. pidgin is a great IM client but not an IRC client.. irssi works great and for the gui xchat18:28
AntiNekoIs there any way to restore sound settings and packages to default?18:28
jribn3rd4i: you want a symlink (ln -s TARGET NAME).  symlinks are better than window's shortcuts18:28
grawityjrib: not always.18:28
LargePrimeDSpair:  WirksWithU DNE18:28
* grawity wishes XP had symlinks18:28
DSpairs/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/18:28
DSpairLargePrime, I mistyped. It's WorksWithU.com18:29
n3rd4iwell i want to put the LINK in a directory who is in ABSOLUTE PATH and just type the name wherever i am18:29
LargePrimeis irssi in the repo?  (look at me using lingo and such)18:29
n3rd4iin the command line relative path18:29
grawityLargePrime: yes.18:29
n3rd4iits possbile that?18:29
jribDSpair: yes, so create a symlink...18:29
Nasrastupid question : my web browser dissaperead.....how do bring it back?18:29
scuniziLargePrime: yep..18:29
scuniziLargePrime: so's xchat.. but don't get xchat-gnome.. yic18:29
DSpairLargePrime, You can always search the repo from aptitude by typing "aptitude search irssi" and it will show you matching items.18:30
nvstp1Just find it back ^^18:30
LargePrimeok away i go to get irssi and the stuf on workswithu18:30
DSpairscunizi, I concur... Xchat-gnome sux0rs.18:30
vigoAntiNeko: Test the headphones on another doohicky?18:31
edward_hi18:31
DSpairHello edward_18:31
jribs/DSpair/n3rd4i18:31
LargePrimeanyone disagree with this list http://www.workswithu.com/2009/03/25/five-essential-ubuntu-modifications/18:31
edward_hi dspair18:31
AntiNekovigo: Works with Win18:31
edward_im new here18:31
DSpairedward_, So are a lot of people. Welcome. Got a question?18:32
AntiNekovigo: Worked with Rhythmbox and Totem but not any more. Now Rhythmbox won't find the gstreamer-plugins18:32
nvstp1Welcome!18:32
edward_not really18:32
rickestLargePrime: context matters, there are no stock answers for your questions18:32
edward_well18:32
edward_yes18:32
vigoAntiNeko: Ok, then it is a bug report that should be sent to launchpad. methinks.18:32
DSpairedward_, Shoot...18:32
sl00Hi. Where can I find this tool or a similar tool? http://www.deesaster.org/progxorg.php18:33
edward_my question is... if here we can speak about ubuntu system18:33
edward_if i have a question about something18:33
LargePrimerickest: i understand.  but asking open questions leads to learning dialog.  i , unlike many, do not desire stock answers.18:33
sl00I always have tourble with the videocards when I run Ubuntu and the "built-in" screen-resolution utility is not really that good since the display is to small to show the whole window :(18:33
scuniziedward_: technical assistance questions are welcome here..18:33
nvstpYou can welcome to ask any question18:33
edward_like... y i become a error log or something like that18:33
edward_oohh ok18:33
rickestLargePrime: what should I have for dinner tonight?18:34
vigoAntiNeko: Do you have a backup disk from when it did work?18:34
DSpairsl00, There's a tool for that built-in to Ubuntu under Preferences in the "System" menu18:34
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LargePrimerickest: what do you enjoy?18:34
edward_it´s grat to know... maybe i can have a lot of questions...18:34
edward_but there r too many errors on my system hehehe18:34
sl00DSpair: Which I just mentioned. I cannot use it because the window goes outside my screen!18:34
DSpairedward_, One at a time.18:34
rickestLargePrime: exactly.  what do you want to do with your machine?  kiosk, development, media player, file server, etc.  'context matters' covers all that18:34
nvstpJust one by one18:34
duffersudo18:34
DSpairsl00, OH!!!18:34
LargePrimerickest:  see how we got to more learning?  dev and media18:35
edward_well...18:35
edward_hehehe... i introduce my self18:35
DSpairsl00, Try this. Open a run dialog by pressing "<ALT>+<F2>". In the run dialog try typing "xrandr --auto"18:35
edward_my english is not so great18:35
edward_i dont know english it all18:35
DSpairedward_, Practice makes perfect.18:35
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PerryArmstrongis it advisable to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.1018:35
edward_heheh18:35
edward_where r u from?18:35
rickestLargePrime: if you had started with that info you might already have some answers instead of this meaningless conversation explaining how to ask a worthwihle question18:36
DSpairPerryArmstrong, Depends on what type of system. For servers, probably not.18:36
rickestLargePrime: liver pate and asparagus spears, btw18:36
Flanneledward_: For general chat questions, we have #ubuntu-offtopic.  This is just for support topics.  Thanks.18:36
nvstpPerryArmstrong, My advice is NO!18:36
DSpairedward_, Indiana, USA18:36
PerryArmstrongDSpair; not a server.....18:36
LargePrimerickest:  i might not have know what my options were.  but i take your point.18:36
edward_ahh ok18:36
edward_great18:36
PerryArmstrongnvsip; not for server18:37
DSpairPerryArmstrong, Then it's probably a good idea. 8.10 introduced a lot uf enhancements which make life much nicer.18:37
LargePrimerickest: on a diet?18:37
sl00DSpair: Okey? Nothing happened what I could see.18:37
rickestLargePrime: no, those are my favorites   :-)18:37
DSpairsl00, Hrrrmmmm . . . . Old monitor?18:37
edward_i have a question...18:37
edward_i have php, mysql18:37
LargePrimerickest:  why not have them then?18:37
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NasraIs there a quick way to recover  your web address ( URL ) on firefox <-----typing www.ubuntu.com18:37
PerryArmstrongDSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed tyhem18:37
sl00DSpair: No. not at all. None of my components are older than 1 year.18:37
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PerryArmstrongDSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them18:37
nvstpPerryArmstrong, You can have a try, but there may be some problem18:37
edward_n a friend tell me that my kubuntu is not ok... cuz all that programs r running on tmp18:37
jribNasra: recover?  is ctrl-l what you want?18:38
edward_/tmp/18:38
Nasraperhaps setting up to default/...18:38
NasraJrib: thanks18:38
PerryArmstrongnvsip; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them18:38
DSpairsl00, xrandr should automatically configure your session to the optimal settings based on what it detects about your video card and monitor18:38
rickestLargePrime: I think I shall.  Now if I could only figure out what good it did to ask the room what I should eat tonight18:38
nvstpPerryArmstrong, Many bugs with the 8.01 version?18:39
sl00DSpair: Thing is I have this same problem on ALL computers I have tried. I end up with a resolution at 720 x Something. One time I installed using Safe-mode then I atleast got 1024x768.18:39
DSpairedward_, You mean that they are storing session information in "/tmp"?18:39
Mr_Molezdoes anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ?18:39
PerryArmstrongnvsip; you mean they are still existing18:39
LargePrimerickest: sharing is caring?18:39
rickestLargePrime: for dev, you might like Eclipse.  to me, it's bloated but some like it, esp java dev I guess.  You already use vim or emacs?18:39
sl00DSpair: Yes but it seems it can never detect my videocards ranging from Intel -> Nvidia.18:39
rickestLargePrime: as long as it makes us feel good, I suppose so18:39
edward_mm.... i will look for that word on the dictionary... i can speak german or spanish or portuguese...18:39
DSpairsl00, Very strange. I have never seen that happen on Ubuntu.18:39
edward_wait just a second18:39
LargePrimerickest: mostly only used MS stuff before18:40
rickestLargePrime: for media, VLC (player) and amarok (bittorrent client) or deluge.  there are many others, perhaps Google will help now that you have those names18:40
DSpairIch spreche sie deutche nicht.18:40
nvstpPerryArmstron, I think there should not be so many bugs18:40
DSpairHablo espanol pequeno18:40
edward_ja ich kann das sehen... aber es ist kein problem18:40
edward_si?18:40
rickestLargePrime: another good Google search: site:reddit.com essential linux  (or site:digg.com)18:40
olskolirchey guys how do i make mp3blaster play continuously without my picking the next song please?18:40
edward_hablas espanhol?18:40
PerryArmstrongnvsip; so not advisable installing??18:41
DSpairedward_, asi asi.18:41
_ruben!english18:41
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:41
_ruben!spanish18:41
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:41
scunizi!es | edward_18:41
ubottuedward_: please see above18:41
rickestLargePrime: apt-get install build-essential     # google that for why a dev would want to run that18:41
nvstpPerryArmstrong, I think your system may be broken, your upgrading to 8.10 cannot resove these problems18:41
DSpair!german18:41
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.18:41
edward_well maybe i gotta see u agein18:41
edward_again18:42
NasraJrib: it was the navigation toolbar needed back18:42
edward_first i deleted all fils of tmp-.... it was a error... a mistake18:42
jjjj5555is ubuntu 9.04 already out=18:42
jjjj5555=18:42
jjjj5555?18:42
NasraCtrl-I what is does is open another window....(kind of double panes sort of speak)....thanks18:42
Nasragotta bakc18:42
Nasraback18:42
PerryArmstrongnvsip; no i think you didnt get what i said...i used 8.04....then when 8.10 got out i installed it..and i found that it had bugs and i couldn't use it...so i reintalled 8.04 and i m planning to upgrade now to 8.10 if its good18:42
edward_than... i was always staring my computer... con strgn n... konsole18:43
sl00DSpair: Very annoying. Same thing with Fedora. My videocards are not even anything special. This current one is a VIA S3 and other ones have been Intel GMA and Nvidia Geforce.18:43
edward_than... sudo xinit... than sudo plasma;sudo kwin18:43
nvstpPerryArmstrong, Oh, Now I see18:43
edward_now i have gnome. xface, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox... kde...18:43
PerryArmstrongnvsip; so what do you say...upgrade...18:43
edward_on my system18:43
DSpairsl00, I cannot begin to tell you without more info. Have you tried to run "X -configure" from the console?18:43
raulherbsterhi, is there a standard solution to create ubuntu installers (such as NSIS for windows)?18:44
nvstpPerryArmstrong, I think both of them are good, it depends on your administration on them18:44
edward_now... it works... cuz i changed the permissions of tmp18:44
PerryArmstrongnvsip; i can't reinstall 8.04 as of now if there will be problems with 8.1018:44
DSpairraulherbster, Yep, it's called a debian package.18:44
edward_n i changed the permissions of .iceauthority18:44
DSpairedward_, What does it say in /etc/passwd for your user?18:45
edward_n when i do something on var/www18:45
jjjj5555how can I really speed up my system? it seems so slow on a P4 2.4 ghz and 1gb ram18:45
edward_??? what?18:45
nathan7jjjj5555: =O18:45
nathan7jjjj5555: Works great here.18:45
edward_for my user18:45
edward_for example18:45
nvstpPerryArmstrong, your upgrading means reinstall or upgrade from 8.04?18:45
nathan7jjjj5555: On P4 too.18:45
edward_whan i wanted go to gnome18:45
raulherbsterDSpair, I know.. but I mean, with user iteration... he can set installation folder, for example18:45
PerryArmstrongnvsip; upgrading from 8.0418:45
DSpairedward_, The /etc/passwd file has the information which tells Linux where your home directory is located. I am wondering if it set incorrectly.18:46
sl00DSpair: Yes but it does not let me do anything.18:46
nvstpPerryArmstrong, you may have a try18:46
sl00DSpair: Just text flashing by...18:46
edward_i cannot in the past...18:46
edward_work on my desktops18:46
DSpairsl00, True, it outputs a config file in your home directory. You should try that config in place of your current one.18:46
edward_..... n i did the updates18:46
nvstpPerryArmstrong, but I advise that you can make a new install of 8.1018:46
edward_but18:46
edward_is always a crash ding18:47
PerryArmstrongnvsip; why a new install??18:47
DSpairedward_, I think that the language barrier is going to be too difficult. Please try the German channel #ubuntu-de18:47
badfish69is it possible for me to set up a secure ftp server with ubuntu intrepid desktop edition?18:47
thopiekarhi.. I really would like to install enlightenments python-bindings but the repo I wanted to install from is offline: http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/ ... is there another repo I can use on ubuntu?18:48
nvstpPerryArmstrong, it is not so stable of upgrade18:48
edward_mm ok18:48
edward_how can i change the channel?18:48
PerryArmstrongnvsip; but then i may lose my data..if i install18:48
edward_:$18:48
jjjj5555nathan7: did you make any tweaks?18:48
DSpairedward_, I wish you luck!18:48
nvstpPerryArmstrong, is your home directionary a independed part?18:48
DSpairnvstp, No, because nobody does that.18:49
freelancewebActionParsnip : Can you tell  me again my two options for upgrading my openSSH?18:49
PerryArmstrongnvsip; i didnt get that question..didnt understand18:49
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DSpairnvstp, Only old school geeks like me ever put the home dir on a seperate partition.18:49
nvstpPerryArmstrong, what is your partition table?18:49
edward_thanks18:49
edward_:D18:49
jjjj5555what is the correct place to install a program to, if it has no installer but just a java .jar file that has to be executed18:49
nvstpPerryArmstrong, you can give the result of "df"18:50
edward_please to meet u18:50
DSpairjjjj5555, Probably /usr/local/bin18:50
sl00DSpair: Nothing happened really. Same resolution. Only difference is that gnome did not start at all. Just a grey background and a X mouse pointer.18:50
DSpairsl00, Hrrmmm . . . Sucky.18:50
freelancewebI am trying to get openSSH 5.1 on my 7.10 box. How do I go about that?18:50
sl00DSpair: If I read the xorg.conf.new it craeted it seems to select the "openchrome" driver for my card. Seems correct since it is a VIA S3 UniChrome18:51
DSpairsl00, Try renaming your X config file to something else and not having an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on the system and restart X. Then bulletproof X should try to start up with sane defaults.18:51
nvstp DSpair, I think make a seperate parttion for home to put data is a good18:51
madalinhello18:51
PerryArmstrongnvsip; http://pastebin.com/m5f9efe7e18:51
kaidenAny Synergy users here? I connect from Ubuntu 9.04 (Client) to Windows (Host) for my mouse / keyboard. When I move my mouse over the mouse hits that computer and sticks in the upper left hand corner. Keyboard works fine. Mouse clicks work fine but the mouse never moves. Any ideas?18:52
DSpairnvstp, It probably is a good thing, but nobody every teaches that to newbs.18:52
DSpairs/every/ever/18:52
madalincan anyone help me install a Winfast TV 2100 ? I've only found tutorials and such that relate to TV 2000..18:52
Mr_Molezdoes anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ? (lower rc.locals run level or increase kdms run level ) ?18:52
DSpairnvstp, So, they end up with a single partition for "/" (the default for Ubuntu).18:53
sl00DSpair: How do I find out which config it uses when I jsut type startx then?18:53
sl00DSpair: I have renamed the one in /etc/X1118:53
LjLMr_Molez: uhm, that would likely result in losing upstart's asynchronous capabilities - in plain english, very much increased boot time18:53
dtohi. anyone here with experience with psubuntu? it hangs on booting after a line about USB bus being deregistered18:53
LargePrimeI reallly like ubuntu.  so i got irssi from the repo and installed.  how come it has not shown up in applications?18:53
dtoduring the install process18:53
nvstpPerryArmstrong, even so, you can only choose to upgrade to 8.10 now18:54
LjLMr_Molez: anyway, it would involve using "update-rc.d" to change the properties of the /etc/init.d/rc.local script18:54
DSpairsl00, X will almost always only use /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:54
PerryArmstrongnvsip; why wat happened now??18:54
sl00DSpair: Hmm okey. I tried 'startx' and it looks the same :(18:54
madalinanyone can provide a link on how i could install a Winfast TV 2100 ?18:54
LjLMr_Molez: actually, i think i just said nonsense - more likely you'd have to add a dependency on rc.local into /etc/init.d/kdm18:54
Mr_MolezLjL: thanks.. I noticed kdm is set at 01, could i move rc.local to anything lower than 01, is there anything lower than 01?18:54
sl00DSpair: There is no new corg.conf in /etc/X11 either.18:55
sl00xorg*18:55
nvstpPerryArmstrong, Because you only have on partition for Linux, and you don't want lost your data, so ...18:55
LjLMr_Molez: i'm not very sure but i don't think upstart really cares about those numbers anymore... adding a dependency on the other hand should work, i suppose18:55
hbekelsl00: /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells you what config file (if any) is being used18:55
sl00hbekel: Okey18:55
PerryArmstrongnvsip; will things be safe??18:55
DSpairsl00: Tell you what. Sign on as "root" or use "sudo" to run "lspci -vv" and capture the output and put it on pastebin.18:56
Mr_MolezLjL: so i could just add what i have in rc.local to /etc/init.d then sleep 1 before the kdm stuff?18:56
nvstp DSpair, Yes, I have found most pople do so, but I think this is too bad18:56
LjLMr_Molez: err, that's not what i meant18:56
Mr_MolezLjL: but would that work ;)18:56
LjLMr_Molez: i don't think so18:56
DSpairnvstp, I understand the reasoning perfectly. What should be done then is that the Ubuntu installer should default to creating a separate partition for "/home"18:57
LjLMr_Molez: just edit kdm and add a dependency on rc.local18:57
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sl00DSpair: I do not thing I can access internet using that computer :(18:57
edward_dspair... im now on the channel of germany... they r nit being really freindly18:57
Mr_MolezLjL: ok thanks :)18:57
LjLMr_Molez: out of curiosity, why do you want to do that anyway?18:57
sl00DSpair: Xorg.0.0log says Unable to locateopen config file using defaults.18:57
Dreamgliderthe ubuntuforum is playing a pink prank or what ?18:57
Mr_MolezLjL: i need to unload some modules and reload them before X starts18:57
nvstp DSpair: I agree!18:57
DSpairsl00, As it should. Try copying the files to a disk or thumb drive and then upload them.18:58
LjLMr_Molez: ugh, ugly18:58
DSpairedward_, Sorry, I wish I could be more help.18:58
Mr_MolezLjL: hehe18:58
nvstpGood night every one:)18:58
Dreamglidergn18:58
DSpairG'nite nvstp18:58
linduxedis there a page on which i can see the progress of packages that are not stable?18:58
LargePrimewhat does ths mean?18:58
LargePrimeMsttcorefonts uses the DEbian FOnt MAnager (defoma). If you wish to use the fonts provided by this package under the X Window System, you must configure it to use defoma fonts.18:58
LargePrimeThe easiest way to do so is to use the x-ttcidfont-conf package. For more information, install the x-ttcidfont-conf package and consult its documentation under /usr/share/doc/x-ttcidfont-conf.18:58
LargePrimeFor uses of msttcorefonts not related to the X Window System (e.g. printing) this is not required.18:58
FloodBot2LargePrime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:58
madalinwere could i find help to my Tv Tuner Winfast 2100 ?18:58
LjLMr_Molez: you could also erm, just do that inside the kdm script18:58
PerryArmstrongnvsip??18:58
Mr_MolezLjL: isn't that what I just asked :P lol18:59
LjLlinduxed: what do you mean "packages that are not stable"?18:59
PerryArmstrongDSpair; so you say upgrading is not advisable??18:59
LjLMr_Molez: to me it sounded like you wanted to use sleep to "ensure" that X would wait18:59
DSpairPerryArmstrong, No, I said exactly the opposite18:59
nvstpPerryArmstrong, yes?18:59
Mr_MolezLjL: ohhh... it will not ?18:59
jeffrey_hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?19:00
unopLargePrime, it means if you want to use windows TTF fonts on linux .. install the x-ttcidfont-conf package. you don't have to do this if you want to be able to print with those fonts.19:00
PerryArmstrongDSpair; okk fine then....i shall upgrade...nvsip..i am gonna upgrade19:00
DSpairPerryArmstrong, Just open your /etc/apt/source.list file and change all of the instances of "hardy" to "intrepid"; run "aptitude update", and then run "aptitude dist-upgrade"19:00
LjLMr_Molez: not if you put your module commands in rc.local, and put a sleep instruction in kdm19:00
LjLMr_Molez: but if you just put your module commands in kdm before it starts X, it should work19:00
jeffrey_I am looking for a way to extend my wireless connection and it appears the best way to do that is buy a card/usb wireless device w/ extended range19:00
Mr_MolezLjL: oh i see, well I meant put it all in the kdm script like you just said, okay I will do that, thanks alot :)19:00
nvstpPerryArmstrong, OK. Good luck19:00
DSpairPerryArmstrong, Sorry, typo, thats /etc/apt/sources.list19:00
LjLMr_Molez: well then i don't think a "sleep" would be needed at all, but what do i know19:01
LargePrimeunop: install that package to view them?  but i can print them without the package?19:01
PerryArmstrongDSpair; you mean replace all names of hardy to intrepid??19:01
DSpairPerryArmstrong, Yep19:01
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linduxedLjL: for instance, clamav is in the version 0.94yaddayadda-ubuntu, but 0.95 without the yaddayadda-ubuntu is out. my guess was that the 0.95 package has been submitted to the devs so they can test it so that it sooner or later can be moved into the repos19:01
Mr_MolezLjL: I just want to make sure it has time to do its dirty business before X starts hehe19:01
jeffrey_hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?19:01
LjLlinduxed: not really19:01
LjL!latest | linduxed19:01
ubottulinduxed: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.19:01
unopLargePrime, well, it's actually, install the package to setup those fonts for use within X (to be able to display them) .. and no, you don't need this package to use the fonts in printing.19:01
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linduxedLjL: i also assumed there was a page where the progress on that process was displayed19:02
DSpairjeffrey_, They should all work fine with Linux. Wireless extenders are dumb devices.19:02
bogatWhat program is normaly used to make presentation in Ubuntu? (something like powerpoint)19:02
LjLlinduxed: new version of stuff is simply *not* added to the repositories, unless it involves important bug fixes. you only other venue is Backports19:02
baldurpetI think I've found a small error in the Ubuntu 9.04 beta19:02
LargePrimeunop: if i open a doc that uses them what will i see?19:02
LjLbogat: openoffice?19:02
SookeAnybody using iPhone with Amarok?19:03
LjLbaldurpet: Jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1 please19:03
baldurpetah thank you19:03
baldurpetdidn't know that19:03
unopLargePrime, those fonts - as you'd expect.19:03
sl00DSpair: Hmm.. I does not seem to find the usbstick. *sigh*19:03
Xiaofeihi19:03
vigobaldurpet: join #ubuntu+119:03
LargePrimeunop: i dont mean to be thick, but if i can see them without the package why do i need the package?19:04
linduxedLjL: ok, but is there som info/progress-on-packages page on backports?19:04
unopLargePrime, maybe you already have defoma installed and configured?? that's why you can see them..19:05
LjLlinduxed: before they actually get added to the repos, you can follow the launchpad report about them. please /msg ubottu !backports for more info19:05
noodhi all19:05
* grawity greets nood.19:05
noodcan i emulate Conficker with wine?19:05
LjL...19:05
noodXD19:05
Mr_MolezLjL: that worked, thanks :)19:06
sl00DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m38658be319:06
LjLMr_Molez: just keep in mind that the day kdm gets an update, you'll probably be asked whether you want to use the new version or your custom version of the config file19:06
LargePrimeunop: i do not know that i have anything installed or that i CAN see them.  I just wondered what i would see it i did not install the x-ttcdifont package19:07
LjLMr_Molez: (in which case i'd recommend using the new version and re-adding the custom stuff later)19:07
Mr_MolezLjL: yeah it's not alot to add, i just hope I remember :), catch you later thanks19:07
sl00DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m11dc6b24  <-- xorg.conf.new19:07
Lint01how can I add Jaunty repositories to Intrepid?19:08
Mean_Admincan I do something like           sudo killall "ssh -L" to kill all ssh tunnels ?19:08
unopLargePrime, not sure .. but I have a suspicion that if you installed the debian/ubuntu msttcorefonts package - everything should be configured for you. don't quote me on this tho.19:08
LjLLint01: you can't, unless you want to destroy your system19:08
LjL!jaunty > Lint01    (Lint01, see the private message from ubottu)19:08
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unopMean_Admin, I don't see that working .. unless you have processes actually named "ssh -L"19:09
LargePrimeunop: it was the installation of that, that caused the warning above.19:09
Lint01!jaunty19:09
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.19:09
linduxedLjL: well thx for the launchpad tip then19:09
Mean_Adminunop: well when I   ps aux | grep ssh, stuff comes up but I really wanna target "ssh user@server -L port:host:port"19:09
LiteShade//quit19:09
clearscreenI wonder why ubuntu devs dont just ship packages like ubuntu-restricted-extras, proprietary(closed-source) drivers, msttcorefonts, etc by default in linux installations... I'm guessing 90%+ of the people installing ubuntu will end up wanting those packages anyway19:10
unopMean_Admin,   maybe something like.   ps aux | awk '/ssh user@server \-L port:host:port/{print $2}' | xargs killall19:10
hatter243clearscreen, because they're not open source.19:11
clearscreenThere isnt any legislation prohibiting them from doing that, is there?19:11
clearscreenhatter243: irrelevant19:11
Mean_Adminunop: half of that command is lost on me (but I get the idea)19:11
aero1234I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?19:11
Mean_Adminbr19:11
hatter243clearscreen, it is not irrelevant. They're easy to install should you want it, but if I want an open source system I do not want one that automatically installs closed source software on my system19:12
clearscreenas long as open-source alternatives to closed-source applications are inferior, I dont see any reason to not ship closed-source apps by default19:12
LargePrimeAll hail the mighty U.  it warned me i needed a package and then went and installed the needed package automagically.19:12
clearscreenhatter243: why not?19:12
ikoniaLargePrime: ?19:12
Andurinohello19:12
clearscreenthat's putting ideals before usability19:12
hatter243clearscreen, I want to be able to modify anything that I want to. I want to be able to examine the code and be sure that it's not calling mommy and talking about me behind my back19:12
LargePrimeikonia: i was just remarking on the coolness of ubuntu19:13
Andurinoany speak spanish?19:13
hatter243!spanish | Andurino19:13
ubottuAndurino: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:13
vigo!es19:13
ikoniaAndurino: #ubuntu-es has lots of people that do19:13
Andurinothanks19:13
clearscreenhatter243: I was talking about the majority of ubuntu users ;) and nothing is stopping you from uninstalling them after getting into your installation.. heck, I bet you're currently using proprietary video drivers19:13
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clearscreenI can assure you that at least 99% of the people using ubuntu won't be digging through xorg's nv code to find if the authors have hidden any keyloggers19:15
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clearscreenoh well19:16
LjL!offtopic19:16
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!19:16
vigoThank you19:16
jatt(OT: was youtube hacked?)19:17
clearscreenapril fools19:17
LjLjatt: see just above19:17
tvon4/119:17
tvonmost suckassed day on the internet19:17
jattI see. Not funny but maybe is just me :).19:18
Dreamglidercan i get my USB GPS receiver to work in ubuntu 8.10, it is listed as  ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port with lsusb19:18
LjLnext offtopic remark earns a little ban19:18
* grawity drinks lemonade19:18
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bogatis there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)19:19
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eirik_anyone here experienced with ddrescue? should it start out thinking of the whole drive as a single large error?19:21
bogatis there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)19:22
vigoDreamglider: There are a number of GPS packages listed in the repositories.19:22
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Picassotamusbogat: figiht with?19:22
vigobogat: I am unable to figure out what you mean.19:22
sl00DSpair: Do you notice anything that is wrong?19:23
ChotaZHow do I move an entire folder from a place to another in the in terminal?19:23
hbekelChotaZ: man mv19:24
lantjiechotaZ: mv -r19:24
bogati mean: program as good as keynote19:24
bogatfor ubuntu19:24
bogatwith the same nice effects19:24
bogator better19:24
aero1234I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?19:25
ChotaZsudo mv -r origin destination?19:25
hbekellantjie: there's no -r in mv19:25
vigobogat: eye candy stuff?19:25
bogatfor example19:26
bogatyeah19:26
sebsebseb 19:26
lantjiehbekel: shit sorry man it's only mv19:26
lantjiesorry19:26
vigobogat: Yes, there are many effects and such that are in the repositories19:26
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vigoCompiz, Desklets, and a bunch of others19:27
erUSULaero1234: press "e" when in the menu to edit the boot options ... remove last ones "quiet" and "splash" and replace them with "single" press "b" to boot19:27
jeffrey_thank you DSpair I did not know19:28
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yoasdfanyone know gdm's default runlevels?19:28
yoasdfmine are set to 2345S19:28
erUSUL!runlevels19:28
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.19:28
raven1guys...who has an experience here on USB CD Booting?19:31
toorimaanyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, kinda like landscape but internal server19:31
Ienorandraven1: details?19:31
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raven1lenorand...uhm..my BIOS doesnt support USB booting..so im trying the CD Booting for my USB19:32
robertjI'm rm -rfing a directory in which I own all the files but some of which I don't have write permissions on. I really don't want to have to chown these files in a seperate step, am I missing the elegant solution?19:32
yoasdfinstall grub19:32
Ienorandraven1: using a cd to boot usb?19:32
yoasdfand boot through grub?19:32
raven1details please19:33
raven1yeah lenorand19:33
raven1yoasdf....how will that work19:33
erUSULrobertj: the -f option should deal with read only issues19:33
yoasdfit will boot the usb19:33
yoasdfthat's how i do it on my laptop that dont support usb booting19:33
raven1really?!19:33
yoasdfyes19:33
raven1so what should I do first19:33
yoasdfedit menu.lst19:34
raven1did u install your linux to your USB?19:34
yoasdfyes19:34
raven1then?19:34
yoasdffrom my usb19:34
raven1what?!19:34
raven1from or to your USB?19:34
yoasdfi installed linux from my usb19:34
raven1and then?19:34
yoasdfu need to install grub first19:34
Ienorandraven1: hmm, you could always try UBCD: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/19:34
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danbhfivehelp: Im trying to delete some files off of a USB drive, and its telling me it can't because it is a read only file system19:35
sebsebsebdanbhfive: mount it, and  gksudo nautilus and that will give you access to it as root, but be careful if you use that, because if you delete something that is part of the system for example, that could be bad19:35
raven1hmmm...is that UBCD safe?19:35
raven1do you get my situation?19:36
autouphi19:36
EeRrOn install Ubuntu does not ask which source address I wish to use. Is this normal (other distros ask)?19:36
sebsebsebautoup: hi19:36
danbhfivesebsebseb: I use sudo rm *, and the same error.  I doubt using nautilus would help, but I can try if you think it will19:36
hbekeldanbhfive: mounted ro?19:36
raven1i have windows xp but i want to install Ubuntu withouth repartitioning my drive so i decided to run ubuntu in my usb..unfortunately, my bios doesnt support USB booting...so what are the ways so i can run Ubuntu?19:36
sebsebsebdanbhfive: sure try  what I said19:36
danbhfivehbekel: I dunno, it automounted19:37
hbekeldanbhfive: how about you ckeck?19:37
sebsebsebraven1: why don't you want to partition?19:37
danbhfivehbekel: how do I check?19:37
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toorimaanyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but with our own internal server and preferably open source19:37
raven1i might lose some files...and my os doesnt have a backup19:37
Mean_Admin:( I'm not getting how to use kill or killall to kill an app having all characters like              killall --matching "ssh -L"19:37
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hbekeldanbhfive: type mount in a terminal19:38
obhk___I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my new netbook; everything worked fine but after updating the packages, I can't connect anymore to the internet?  Can anybody help me sort this out?19:38
danbhfivehbekel: it looks like  rw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)19:38
c7mhi people, i need an advice. Is there any sense to include QoS into kernel?19:39
giacohello!19:39
Picassotamusobhk___: wired or wireless? Error messages?19:39
edoromandoes anyone know anything about making drivers?19:39
c7msomeone definitely does19:39
Ienorandraven1: I think you should be able to chainload your usb boot loader from the ubuntu livecd, I'm not sure what the commands are though...19:39
madhawiehello19:40
thom__hi...19:40
c7mis there any sense to include QoS into kernel? someone knows?19:40
obhk___Picassotamus: wired, the network manager just says there's no connection, no specific errors, and I don't really know how to look for them19:40
siskhello all19:41
siskanyone here19:41
ChotaZIn amsn, is there any way of seeing your contact's DP in the contact window?19:42
robertjerUSUL: it doesn't19:42
Picassotamusobhk___: You can check system->admin->system log for error messages19:42
giacoI've just upgraded to 9.04! Everything works great but my xorg is eating a lot of cpu power, even w/o firefox opened (actually just with just xchat it eats 12% of my core due T7300). I'd like to ask you if this is a known issue and/or it has a specific name or something! Thank you for your support19:42
robertjerUSUL: if I don't force it it will prompt me, but even if I say yes it says permission denied19:42
Picassotamus!jaunty | giaco19:42
ubottugiaco: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.19:42
thom__anyone knows, how to solve 'read-only-system' on Flash disk?? It caused by Windows' viruses. So, I cant save my file to it. But, If I attrib it in Windows, then back to my system [ubuntu], it solved. How to solved it in unix-version19:43
giacoPicassotamus, thank you19:43
CycI'm using ubuntu 8.10 and having problems with panels. Usually i use dual monitors so have 4 panels two on each monitor. However if i boot up with only one monitor the panels dont work, only two load and they are unresponsive. Any ideas how i can solve this?19:43
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robertjand admittedly its r--r------ but I own the thing19:43
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mbeierlthom__: what does "mount" say about the stick?19:44
danbhfivehbekel: well, I solved it by just reformating.  no idea what was going on19:44
robertjerUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m63a16357 <-- am I just missing something stupid?19:44
thom__mbeierl : It's about error and tell that the drive has a read-only system19:44
kevin_zhongis the Intel 82845G graphics controller compatible with Ubuntu?19:44
Picassotamusgiaco: Aside from errors, i would see if your network card is detected19:45
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marcondesola,19:45
marcondescreio que estou com um problema19:45
ChotaZ!portuguese | marcondes19:45
ubottumarcondes: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.19:45
mbeierlthom__: if you open a terminal and enter "mount" by itself, what's the output?19:45
danbhfivethom__: I was having the same trouble19:45
giacoPicassotamus, why not?19:45
danbhfivethom__: I just reformatted, and that solved it19:45
Ienorandraven1: Supergrubdisk would probably be able to do what you want as well: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ There are instructions on: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Howto_Boot_Linux_only try the boot * directly option in the CD...19:45
erUSULrobertj: what are the permissions of the parent dir? (certs in this case?)19:45
marcondestem pessoas reclamando q estao recebendo aquelas mensagem com links para virus19:45
hbekeldanbhfive: voodoo...19:45
marcondessendo q uso o ubuntu 8,10 e emesene19:46
Picassotamusgiaco: what? I'm not sure what you mean but "why not?".  I'm saying that if you don't see any error messages, make sure your network card is detected19:46
thom__mbeierl : well I dont exactly remember, because I formatted it. But I can copy the file from my Flash-disk. I just can save into it.19:46
ChotaZ!portuguese > marcondes19:46
ubottumarcondes, please see my private message19:46
marcondesok19:46
thom__mbeierl : cant19:46
ChotaZaqui so fala inglês =D English only here please ;)19:46
kevin_zhongis the Intel 82845G graphics card compatible with Ubuntu?19:47
kravlinso last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects. help?19:47
giacoPicassotamus, yes, it is. But I can't get why you're asking me about my network card even if I haven't talked about it since my channel join :-| Am I missing something?19:47
IgramulIs it possible to make spampd reject spam mails (code 5xx) instead of just marking it?19:47
robertjerUSUL: dr-x--x--x 2 backuppc backuppc 4096 2009-03-31 19:58 .19:47
cremetortehi there i got a problem with my new installed postfix/courier mailserver.   i  can send mail, i can receive them, but there is one specifig valid email adress from which i cant receive any mail. mail does NOT return.  is there a possibility to check a logfile for courier or something?19:47
IenorandDoes ubuntu livecd boot screen use isolinux boot config or something like that?19:47
erUSULIenorand: syslinux afaik19:48
kevin_zhongok, another question... how can i Update 8.10 to 9.0419:48
erUSULrobertj: dunno what may be the problem19:48
datruthWhat are the correct settings to VPN from ubuntu to windows 2003 server?19:48
erUSULkevin_zhong: ask in #ubuntu+119:48
toorimaanyone know of some managment software, push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but with our own internal server and preferably open source19:48
danbhfivethom__: please let me know if you try reformating19:49
robertjerUSUL: I thought that was expected behavior from rm though19:49
robertjand that I just needed another util19:49
IenoranderUSUL: do you know the commands for chainloading from that, or where I could find out?19:49
erUSULIenorand: nope19:49
kravlinso last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects. help?19:51
clearscreen!repeat | kravlin19:51
ubottukravlin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience19:51
kravlinclearscreen: I don't normally spam like this. I sat there for a good hour last night before someone realized that i was even talking. Sorry. won't happen again.19:52
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DefienceI need help with a Wubi problem19:53
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De-MentorDefience: whats your problem?19:54
datruthanyone?19:55
DefienceI installed Ubuntu 8.10 with it and on boot up I get an Errror 1: message19:55
datruthanyone?19:55
kravlinclearscreen: so what is a good interval for asking my question? i've already looked around a bit on the forums.19:55
DefienceError 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist19:55
Defience press any Key to Continue19:55
De-MentorDefience: which version did you install the 32bit or 64bit version ?19:56
ikoniadatruth: anyone what ?19:56
DefienceDe-Mentor:64bit I believe19:56
De-MentorDefience: and do you have a 64bit CPU?19:57
ikoniaDefience: can you type the full error you get please19:58
De-Mentorikonia: he said he got Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist19:58
DefienceDe-Mentor: :/ it's 32 bit19:58
ikoniaDe-Mentor: thats not an error - I need more detail19:59
ikoniaDe-Mentor: at what poind do you get this error and what is the full error19:59
Defienceikonia: that's all it will say19:59
ikoniaDe-Mentor: sorry that was doe Defience19:59
ikoniafor19:59
De-Mentorikonia: i dont get the error he just wrote it before19:59
DefienceI get the option to boot vista or ubuntu, I click ubuntu and get that error19:59
ikoniaDefience: ok - so the problem is with grub19:59
DefienceError 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist20:00
Defience press any Key to Continue20:00
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ikoniaDefience: has ubuntu every worked20:00
Defienceikonia: no20:00
SookeHola, alguno que use Amarok con algun dispositivo externo, por mas que cambio cosas en mis colecciones, luego al transferir no me copia caratulas ni nada a mi iphone20:00
Defienceikonia: I just tried it with wubi yesterday20:00
ikoniaahhh wubi20:00
noren!ot20:00
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!20:00
ikonianoren: who was that for ?20:00
kravlinso last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects, wireless works but there's no wireless where i am.20:01
Defience"Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist"  <---20:01
luislobo!es | Sooke20:01
ubottuSooke: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:01
juacowhen i see a package in packages.ubuntu.com and it says "restricted", what does it mean?20:03
Defienceikonia: I first get the screen for normal mode, etc. which I choose, then comes the error and when I "press any key to continue" I get the option screen where I can edit20:03
ikoniaDefience: yes, I understand what the problem is, but I don't use/support wubi as I don't rate it as a product so I don't know it insude out20:03
cha0sjuaco, it means that it's using stuff with a restrictive license20:04
juacocha0s thx!20:04
hybr1deris there a way to totally uninstall a software?20:05
Defienceikonia: I have a ubuntu 8.04 disk which I tried several times to duel install with vista but that always gave me another error where it would exit before loading [busybox] and drop me to (initramfs)20:05
Defienceso I decided to try wubi20:05
norenDefience: check for physical eroor20:05
Defiencenoren: how? where? what?20:06
erUSULhybr1der: use purge20:06
ikoniaDefience: again - I don't support wubi so I can't help you with that20:06
norencheck the cd for physical error20:06
Picassotamushybr1der: assuming said software is in repos, i believe the command is sudo apt-get remove *package name*20:06
Defiencenoren: Ok20:06
ikoniaDefience: the bottom line is your grub config needs a full path to the file it wants to boot20:07
norenDefience: wen u start with the live cdd u get the option20:07
mogi22what would be the sed command to delete lines from a line containing 123 to the line after one containing 45620:07
ikoniaDefience: that much I can tel ou20:07
mogi22ie sed -i '/123/,/456/d' file does almost thata20:07
souvikhi how to get all the graphical activities in ubuntu?20:07
mogi22but i also want to delete the line after 456 which is blank20:07
mogi22but its the 2nd blank line after 123, so i cant just do '/123/,/ /d'20:07
catfaceis there something like virtualBox that can run off an actual hard drive instead of an image?20:08
fwaokdamy firefox doesn't have  a titlebar anymore... yet all other windows/programs seem to still have theirs... whats the deal?20:08
Defienceikonia: yeah, I thought when I get to the screen where I can edit that maybe a path needed changed like (not exact) --set-root-ignore_floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz20:08
norenfwaokda: chec the theme u have installed20:09
ikoniaDefience: check if /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz even exists20:09
fwaokdaits the default theme...20:09
Picassotamuscatface: Not that i know of, that kind of defeats the whole point of it being virtual ( not really being installed )20:09
Defienceit does20:09
souvikhi how to get all the graphical activities in ubuntu?20:09
Defienceikonia: if I change the path to something like: /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/menu.lst I get an Error 15: doesn't exist20:10
visfhi, any  idea why my drive show so little amount of space and yet when i check the property there shows almost full?20:10
yoasdfis initrd important20:10
fosco_souvik: do you mean a 3D desktop?20:10
ikoniaDefience: you don't boot that file20:10
Aperculumcan I create ext2 fs without lost&found dit20:10
Aperculumdir20:10
yoasdf?20:10
Defienceikonia: ok20:10
norenDefience: and initrd.img file is also needed20:10
ikoniaDefience: thats your menu.lst - you edit that file to tell it where the kernel is20:10
yoasdfdo we need initrd?20:10
catfacei just want to run two oses at the same time and i already have them installed20:10
DuelandWhen i open programs in my 2nd computer screen, they start on my primary screen. Has anyone encountered this? Using latest nvidia20:10
catfacei suppose i should run linux and use the 'other one' through wine20:11
erUSULAperculum: no; it is a bid deal to have it around ?20:11
Defiencenoren: in the boot folder are initrd and vmlinuz20:11
AperculumerUSUL: on usb-stick20:11
AperculumerUSUL: just annoyance20:11
yoasdfwhy is it important to have initrd?20:11
souvikfosco_:ya20:11
Picassotamuscatface: It may have not been what you meant, but you can't run an OS through wine20:11
yoasdfwhen i was playing with slackware i didn't need initrd but only vmlinux?20:11
yoasdfjust confused20:11
fosco_souvik: activate desktop effects20:11
erUSULyoasdf: depends on your config and your hardware set up20:11
yoasdfoh20:12
yoasdfthx20:12
Defienceikonia: could the problem be that my computer is 32 bit?20:12
norenDefience: are u trying to install 64 bit on 32 bit20:12
souvikfosco_:actually am using it 1st time...........how to activate it?20:12
ikoniaDefience: not really20:12
Picassotamuscatface: certain windows apps yes20:12
Defiencenoren: I didn't realize it but I think I got 64bit   amd64.iso20:13
ikoniaDefience: that would give you a different message20:13
catfacepicassotamus: oh yeah... duh20:13
fosco_souvik: system - preferences - appearance - effects20:13
Defienceikonia: ok20:13
ikoniaDefience: however if your computer (not windows - your hardware) is 32bit only - you won't be able to use that install20:13
rfsalderI've got some questions about apt-mirror and apt-move. Is this the right forum to ask them?20:13
marko-_-why is the xorg.conf in 8.10 different from 8.04 ?20:13
linkinx64helllo guys how can i see what users and what files are they accessing in ubuntu?20:13
norenDefience: u cannot install 64 bit on 32 bit20:14
erUSULAperculum: i think you can just remove it (fsck will create it again when you run it)20:14
DuelandWhen i open programs in my 2nd computer screen, they start on my primary screen. Has anyone encountered this? Using latest nvidia driver20:14
fosco_markl_: cause newer X server does not need xorg.conf file20:14
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norenDefience: otherway around is possible20:14
fosco_marko-_-:  cause newer X server does not need xorg.conf file20:14
ivantisCurrently I have Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop. Is there a way to upgrade to server edition without losing files/settings?20:14
fosco_ivantis: update-manager20:14
marko-_-fosco_, so if i want let's say change the graphic card section to use vesa and stuff like that, where do i do that ?20:14
Defienceikonia:noren: 32-bit operating system20:15
fosco_markl_: you can still using xorg.conf to force some settings20:15
ivantisfosco_, how does that work? I have the server edition DVD20:15
Aperculumthanks erUSUL20:15
souvik fosco_:actually it giving can't enable effects. sud i install anything?20:15
Defiencebut the site doesn't give you a choice20:15
ikoniaDefience: said NOT operating system, I said your hardware20:15
fosco_souvik: go to system - admin - hardware drivers and activate your graphics driver20:16
dhruvasagarikonia: hey20:16
norenikonia: now i m confused what is Defience trying to do20:16
dhruvasagarfosco_: in my experience that doesn't always work properly20:16
Aaron1Real dumb question: How do you change the look of mouse cursors20:16
Defienceikonia: I can view the menu.lst file, should I be able to view the vmlinuz file?20:16
fosco_dhruvasagar: maybe, but it is the first place to look for20:16
fosco_:)20:16
ikoniaDefience: no - it's a binary file20:16
dhruvasagarfosco_: I have found it best to install the drivers manually using synaptic first and then go to the hardware section to activate them20:17
Defienceikonia: ok20:17
Mean_AdminI need help on the killall syntax if anyone..20:17
sirderigo-it only contains 1 and 020:17
clearscreenMean_Admin: man killall20:17
Neochivershey .. im running an Intel E6600 that supports EM64T (intels 64-bit stuff) .. which ISO is the 64-bit version the "AMD64" or "i386" ?20:17
yabukhow to configure a ubuntu-ubuntu network using a crossover cable?20:17
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: what about killall?20:17
sirderigo-Mean_Admin, killall app to kill20:17
erUSULNeochivers: amd6420:17
Mean_Adminclearscreen: yeah I stil lcan't do it right20:17
JessicaParkeranyone use spofity with wine ?20:17
fosco_JessicaParker: yep20:17
margaretHi I asked this question earlier and had to leave so I appologize to anyonw who answered20:18
NeochiverserUSUL: even though its's an intel chip will it work?20:18
Aaron1Anyone know how to change the look of the mouse cursor ?20:18
clearscreenMean_Admin: well, give us a specific problem then :P20:18
JessicaParkeri have an issue where sometimes the sound just stops and i have to reboot to get it up again - anyone come across this issue20:18
dhruvasagarJessicaParker: I don't like wine so much...or atleast their concept..20:18
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: I want killall to kill something based on what it's called in ps aux20:18
confusedBobAaron1: System -> Preferences -> Appearence, click customise on the theme you are using, then Pointers tab20:18
fosco_Aaron1: system - preferences - appearance - personalize theme20:18
Aaron1omg20:18
Aaron1Thanks20:18
JessicaParkerany alternatives to wine with spotify though - do they have linux install >20:18
erUSULNeochivers: yes; amd invented the 64 bit extensions/architechture so linux devs named the linux arch amd6420:18
Aaron1I feel retarded20:18
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: well you can simply type killall apppnamee, ex.) killall firefox20:18
margaretI have a copy of rosetta stone that runs directly from the cd drive can I use this with ubuntu?20:18
Mean_Adminso in ps aux , there is a process called ssh -i /some/parth and so on20:18
erUSULNeochivers: give credit where credit is due20:19
fosco_JessicaParker: yes, me too, i think is something pulse related20:19
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: yeah but killall shh would kill +7000 processes20:19
Aaron1Can you import custom mouse cursors?20:19
confusedBobyes20:19
dhruvasagarMean_Admin you would like to do a ps -ef | grep /some/parth first I guess20:19
NeochiverserUSUL : I assume you mean AMD developed the 64-bit processing code20:19
JessicaParkerany soultion apart from reboot ?20:19
fosco_Aaron1: gnome-look.org and download any cursor theme you like20:19
Mean_AdminI just want to tell killall to kill the process starting with "ssh -i /specific/path".. I'd even settle for kill, I just find it even less workable20:19
Neochiversno more MX :P20:19
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: and then you can kill the process using sudo kill -9 pid20:20
Aaron1My question was more on how do you import them?20:20
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: right but I'm trying to script this so no human eyeballs20:20
RON4LD0RUD35tem algum brasileiro aqui?20:20
fosco_Aaron1: just drag and drop the tgz file over the appearance window20:20
confusedBobinstructions should be on gnome-look20:20
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Aaron1Okay20:20
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: well killall has a -r pr --regexp option.20:20
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: -r OR --regexp20:21
erUSULNeochivers: they designed/invented the x86_64 architechture the same way intel invented/designed/developed x86_32 (ia32 ix86 or whatever...)20:21
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: thanks, I'll look into it :)20:21
RON4LD0RUD35algum brasileiro???20:21
fosco_!br20:21
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:21
mcrawforyou know how after you do updates you get messages such as "system needs rebooting" or particular applications need to be restarted?20:21
mcrawforis there any way to get those at the cmdline?20:21
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: cool20:21
SoyoSo I have my shared folder set with 777 (drwxrwxrwx) Why can I not save a file in that directory from my XP machine without it saying "access denied" ?20:21
dhruvasagarmcrawfor: you should get them on command line if you update from the command line20:22
JessicaParkeri take it no one has a solution to spotify mysteriously stopping ?20:22
erUSUL!br | RON4LD0RUD3520:22
ubottuRON4LD0RUD35: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:22
mcrawfordhruvasagar: using apt-get upgrade?20:22
dhruvasagarmcrawfor: apt-get update20:22
RON4LD0RUD35ok, já achei, obrigado20:22
erUSULRON4LD0RUD35: obrigado20:22
AnusienSoyo: You're sharing it over samba?  Check the samba configuration file; it can override those20:22
piegodHi, there was a tool for voip that didn't use any external servers a while back that I read about, the program would either become a client or a server itself, can anyone name the program?20:23
dhruvasagarI just love gnome-do20:23
SoyoAnusien: thanks did not think of that!20:23
mcrawfordhruvasagar: are you saying they are lodged somewhere in the enormous list of output from apt-get?20:23
abstraktwhat's the command to enable a vhost on apache2?20:23
abstrakti forget, i'm migrating this Apache setup from CentOS to Ubuntu20:23
ikoniaabstrakt: you need to enable a site20:23
dhruvasagarmcrawfor: in my understanding it should be logged at the end when update finishes20:23
mcrawforabstrakt: a2ensite i think20:23
abstraktand it's got the sites-available and sites-enabled20:23
abstraktikonia, yes i know20:23
grey580Hello everyone20:23
abstraktjust can't remember the command20:23
ikoniaabstrakt: look in /etc/http and a2ensite20:24
abstraktmcrawfor, yeah that sounds right thx20:24
mcrawfordhruvasagar: huh, never seen that20:24
mcrawfornp20:24
abstraktikonia, you mean /etc/httpd ?20:24
ikoniaabstrakt: I most certainly do20:24
ikoniaabstrakt: sites-enabled and sites-available directories20:24
Jake2hi there, can someone help me with my ubuntu installation please?20:25
Eric_GHi all. I'm hoping for some help figuring out why a volume will not mount ..20:25
ikoniaEric_G: what's up ?20:25
clearscreenEric_G: errors?20:26
dhruvasagarJake2: what seems to be your problem?20:26
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: I can't get the syntax right :(20:26
clearscreenWe can't read minds over the internet (yet)20:26
erUSUL!ask | Jake220:26
ubottuJake2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:26
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: killall -i -r "ssh -i" doesn't work20:26
oobeif i compile a new kernel on intrepid using "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-poofuck kernel-image kernel-headers" when i install the resulting debs i get dkms errors to do with my nvidia modules is there a way to work around this20:26
PicassotamusEric_G: filesystem? device type?20:26
Jake2ok basically i install ubuntu but i cannot access the GUI, only the kernel command line thingy if you know what i mean20:26
abstraktso, i get an error message (which i've seen before) saying that the fully qualified domain name could not be determined and so using the loopback addy for the ServerName (127.....20:26
Jake2im a complete noob to linux im afraid20:26
abstraktdoes that matter?20:26
ikoniaoobe: you can do it without using bad langauge20:26
clearscreenJake2: any errors when you run 'startx'?20:26
abstraktJake2, step number one. don't be afraid. fear is the mind killer.20:26
grey580Question: I need to connect to an msql server on a different machine. Does anyone know what the steps would be to configure my setup of ubuntu server 2.6.27-11-server #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 20:19:41 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux20:26
ikoniaoobe: custom kernels are also not supported20:26
Eric_GThe volume was originally formatted for journalled OS X, and then the drive was used on both OS X and Linux Ubuntu 8.10. My Ubuntu box is on the blink for now, and to my dismay OS X is not mounting hte volume. Terminal help ?20:27
ubaloobahey guys, is anyone familiar with mobo MCP temps?20:27
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: -r requires a regular expression, have you tried killall -i -r /ssh -i/ ?20:27
oobeikonia, bad language?20:27
ikoniaEric_G: try in ##apple20:27
ikoniaoobe: yes, look at your kernel name20:27
ikoniaEric_G: or ##macox20:27
oobeoh ok20:27
ikoniaEric_G: or ##macos20:27
piegodoobe: i think he meant the -poofuck bit :)20:27
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: I would suggest you to google a bit if needed20:27
oobeyeah i got it20:27
Jake2would someone mind pming me? this is a little confusing20:27
oobewell point taken20:27
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: I did, that's why I came crying here20:27
clearscreenJake2: run 'startx'20:28
oobethat still doesnt help me with my problem if i remove the bad language20:28
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: I'll google some more until  I find 42 if I must20:28
piegodbut they have profanity in the source code :/20:28
Jake2@clearscreen, startx says something about error20:28
BlackCoffeewhat's with the colours on the ubuntu forums.my eyes hurt20:28
Eric_GYeah, I though about using #apple, but I figured by double use in Ubuntu changed the volume enough to make it umnountable in OS X20:28
clearscreenJake2: we cant read minds over the internet, specify what error20:28
erUSULBlackCoffee: april's fool joke20:28
ga_bashbhak madharchod sab sala20:28
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ga_bashbhak madharchod sab sala20:28
Jake2i also see some ACPI errors when logging20:28
BlackCoffeeyuk20:28
ikoniaEric_G: I doubt mounting it in ubuntu changed anything20:28
BlackCoffeebad taste in jokes i must say20:28
ikoniaBlackCoffee: this channel is for ubuntu support,20:29
fosco_Jake2: you can try some things20:29
clearscreenJake2: run 'startx | grep EE' and post the errors starting with (EE) on a pastebin20:29
BlackCoffeeso?20:29
dhruvasagarMean_Admin: well you just need to find the right regular expression...20:29
oobewhat i think the problem is is when i install the kernel it goes into a loop off not being able to build new nvidia modules using dkms20:29
ikoniaBlackCoffee: complaining about ubuntuforums colours isn't ubuntu support20:29
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piegodcan anyone name a simple VoIP tool which doesn't require any other entities (other than my ISP)?20:29
BlackCoffeeso all i can do here is ask for support.i can't comment on anything else?20:29
ikoniaoobe: the nvidia drivers are not part of the kernel and should be installed after the kernel is running20:29
fosco_Jake2: type reboot in the command line, if that does not work type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/start if that does not work try adding acpi=off to the grub kernel line20:29
ikoniaBlackCoffee: support on ubuntu, yes20:29
BlackCoffeeoh goody...20:30
PicassotamusBlackCoffee: You can offer support too :)20:30
Mean_Admindhruvasagar: yeah I thought it was set that it would kill all processes having all least all those strings but no..20:30
clearscreenBlackCoffee: for anything else, #ubuntu-offtopic20:30
BlackCoffeei c20:30
BlackCoffeejust wanted to chit chat lol.goin to the offtopic one20:30
Eric_Gok, thanks for the input. I'll see whtat #apple has to say. Good day all :)20:30
oobeikonia, thanks i know20:32
oobeyou misunderstood20:32
oobebut thanks to you now i know custom kernels are not supported and that shouldnt put bad langauge in my build name20:33
kevin_zhongmy xorg.conf file is empty and my screen resolution is horrible, I don't understand...plz help20:33
clearscreenkevin_zhong: nvidia card?20:34
kevin_zhongyes20:34
henryrhodesIs virtual box better than Vim20:34
clearscreenrun nvidia-xconfig20:34
kevin_zhongok20:34
ikoniakevin_zhong: wait20:34
yoasdfvim is an editor?20:34
kevin_zhong?20:34
erUSULhenryrhodes: comparing apples to oranges from mars20:34
yoasdfvirtualbox runs a virtual OS20:34
ikoniakevin_zhong: have you enabled the ubuntu restricted drivers in the "Hardware driver" application ?20:34
keystr0kI want to do a chmod g+s to a folder that has a bunch of existing folders... I want ALL folders that currently exist, and all that will be created, to take the ownership that is the same as the root folder... do I have to run chmod g+s recursively?20:34
kevin_zhongyes20:34
exco1did ubuntuforums.org get hacked or is it because of April 1st or what?20:34
ikoniakevin_zhong: which driver did it enable, and which video card do you have ?20:34
outoftimenot an ubuntu-specific question, but where is a standard place for a process to put a pid file, that doesn't require root for write access?20:35
wisemanHeeeelp20:35
ikoniaexco1: join #ubuntuforums20:35
erUSULexco1: the later20:35
ikoniawiseman: you have to ask a question20:35
wisemanI can't get something to install20:35
henryrhodesI am trying to take an ISo that is windows based and put it on an sd card in linux20:35
exco1thx, erUSUL20:35
ikoniawiseman: you have to provide detail20:35
kevin_zhongI have nvidia geforce 4 mx, it enabled version 9620:35
henryrhodeson a eeepc20:35
Picassotamuskeystr0k: -R, read man chmod too :)20:35
wisemanI open the CD, there's a setup thing, I doubleclick and nothing happens20:35
ikoniakevin_zhong: ahh, ok20:35
benste1what can I do if wifi fails connecting using nm applet and ndiswrapper20:35
benste1?20:35
wisemanno, it's not a windows cd, it's a linux-specific version of some software I need20:35
ikoniakevin_zhong: do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia" what do you see20:36
wisemanI can't figure out where it goes wrong because nothing happens at all20:36
kevin_zhongok20:36
ikoniawiseman: any time you want to provide details of what the application is - that will help move things along20:36
yoasdfuse the terminal to connect to the internet :)20:36
wisemanIt's Pro/Engineer20:36
kevin_zhongkevin@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep -i nvidia20:36
kevin_zhongnvidia               4717332  3220:36
kevin_zhongi2c_core               31892  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce220:36
kevin_zhongnvidia_agp             14492  120:36
kevin_zhongagpgart                42184  2 nvidia,nvidia_agp20:36
FloodBot2kevin_zhong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:36
wendytripaiuto non mi va pi\ ubuntu20:36
keystr0kPicassotamus, Yeah... I didn't understand if the setgid bit had to be set on all of the folders... I know it will automatically set it on any NEW folders created.20:36
ikoniawiseman: it's what ?20:36
benste1yoasdf  how?20:36
ikoniakevin_zhong: thats a good start, that shows the module is loaded.20:37
wisemanPro/Engineer.  Professional level CAD software.20:37
kevin_zhongOk20:37
ikoniawiseman: but what is it ? what is it called20:37
wisemanIt's called Pro/Engineer20:37
yoasdfman iwconfig20:37
ikoniawiseman: ahh ok, one moement please20:37
wisemanthe name of the software is Pro/Engineer.20:37
wendytripnon c-[ nessuno che mi pu; dare una mano_20:37
kevin_zhongIve been trying to fix this for a while, the only way I could get 1024x768 screen res is in low graphics mode20:37
yoasdfman dhclient20:37
yoasdfman ifconfig20:37
erUSUL!appdb | wiseman check that proengeeniring is supported by wine20:37
ubottuwiseman check that proengeeniring is supported by wine: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help20:37
almark1 Hello, i am using 32 bit version of 64studio Beta 3 with hardy, recently I did a full system upgrade on 64studio and after I did this my gnome themes were missing or deleted, and I am missing 64studio.xml file, what can do to restore this? My windows hide themselves now, and I can't see them in the toolbar, I have to Alt to tab to them.20:38
erUSULwiseman: not all windows programs work on wine20:38
wisemanBut I have a linux version of it and I just want to make it work.20:38
henryrhodeshow do I get a nt type boot load on an sd card in linux20:38
wisemanthis is not a windows program20:38
wisemanthis is the LINUX VERSION of pro/engineer20:38
ikoniawiseman: I am looking at the info20:38
wisemanI understand that.20:38
erUSULwiseman: ahh ok; sorry for the missunderstanding...20:38
almark1Ubuntu Hardy20:39
wisemanno problem.  Most software doesn't have a linux version.  PTC is nice enough to make one20:39
wisemanNow I have the windows version on my school computer, but my mobile unit is ubuntu and I need to move stuff back and forth.20:39
wisemanis there a way for me to figure out what the error is and tell you so you can tell me what it means?20:40
ikoniawiseman: just pulling up the info on the product20:40
kevin_zhongwhat do you suggest ikonia?20:40
blip-does anyone know where I can find a good guide on how to set up PulseAudio on Hardy ?   for some reason I couldn't find a guide on google, only posts about problems and fixes20:40
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Picassotamus!pulse20:40
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions20:40
ikoniakevin_zhong: apologies, I got side tracked20:40
noren_wiseman: try running the app from the konsole and tell whats the error20:40
ikoniakevin_zhong: is it possible for you to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?20:40
grey580to connect to a msql server on a different box i need freetds. what apt-get libs do i need?20:40
blip-thanks Picassotamus20:40
kevin_zhongits empty20:40
almark1I have the DVD installation disk for my hardy disto, 64studio, but what can I do to restore what the update has done. I don't know the names of the pkgs?20:41
Guest38031I am trying to install python-qwt4 in jaunty, and get the following message:  python-qwt4: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu9 is to be installed20:41
Guest38031. How can I get around it?20:41
ikoniaJordan_U: totally empty ?20:41
erUSULwiseman: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/how-to-install-proengineer-under-linux-1269520:41
ikoniaJordan_U: sorry20:41
wisemanYou mean terminal, noren_?20:41
ikoniakevin_zhong: totally empty - not one line ?20:41
kevin_zhongnot one line20:41
noren_yes wiseman20:41
TheComradeI can mount and browse a remote folder via sshfs.. Username is the same on local and remote machines, but I cannot create or write any files in the share, it's like I have read only access.  Any ideas?20:41
ikoniakevin_zhong: then something has emptied it20:41
ikoniakevin_zhong: is this an 8.10 install ?20:41
kevin_zhongyes20:41
blip-what ???  ->   "It's a drop in replacement for EsounD. PulseAudio is the standard sound server in Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04."        .... the pulseaudio package from the repos wasn't even installed on my fully updated Hardy20:42
ikoniakevin_zhong: ok one moment20:42
kevin_zhongok20:42
maginotanyone knows how to remove a package and only that pa20:42
Itchyhoboi heard ext4 has data loss problems?20:42
maginotanyone knows how to remove a package and only that package without it dependencies ?20:42
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ikoniaItchyhobo: it's not in ubuntu current release so doesn't matter20:42
linxehmaginot: look at the options to dpkg20:42
ikoniawiseman: what version of pro/engineer is it ?20:42
danbhfivemaginot: dpkg --remove --force-depends package            something like that20:43
wisemanwildfire 3.020:43
erUSULwiseman: seems you need to « sudo aptitude install csh lesstif2 portmap » before running the setup program from terminal20:43
Lego_DanUm, I just burned the ISO for 8.10 (with imgburn) it reads the cd like it wants to boot it but then brings up the freebsd boot manager.. and if i don't let it boot from the hdd, i get an insert boot media error20:43
Itchyhoboikonia, i am talking about jaunty, is ext4 default on it?20:43
mikes80wiseman: This link may be useful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99022720:43
wisemanerUSUL: that may have well have been in chinese20:43
mjheagle8Itchyhobo: no20:43
ikoniaItchyhobo: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+120:43
ikoniakevin_zhong: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/142283/20:43
kevin_zhongok20:43
danbhfiveItchyhobo: no, and no20:43
erUSULwiseman: the blog post? or the « sudo aptitude install csh lesstif2 portmap » ?20:43
ikoniawiseman: there is no product walled wildfile20:44
kevin_zhongjust paste it and save?20:44
ikoniayeah20:44
linxehLego_Dan: bios boot options need fixing by the sounds of it20:44
kevin_zhongok20:44
mjheagle8i heard something about rhythmbox development being discontinued. anyone know anything about this?20:44
ikoniawiseman: got it- sorry20:44
maginotdanbhfive, hehe I was just looking for that on #debian and they just said about --force-depends20:44
maginot=)20:44
ikoniawiseman: that version only works on RHEL 3 - 32bit20:44
erUSULwiseman: according to the blog post i lionked you need those three packages installed before running the P/E installer20:44
Lego_Danthere is only so many options for the boot order... and bsd/windows cds boot fine.. even memtest20:44
ikoniawiseman: it has a much older glibc dependency20:44
kevin_zhongikonia: when I try to save: "Could not find the file /etc/x11/xorg.conf."20:44
wisemanerUSUL: doing that now20:45
ikoniakevin_zhong: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf20:45
Jordan_ULego_Dan, Do you have FreeBSD installed?20:45
benste1 yoasdf: I want to use nm with the wifi20:45
Lego_Danyes dual boot xp/freebsd20:45
wisemanerUSUL: I get an error now, at least now it's doing something though20:45
Lego_Danplan on installing ubuntu over xp20:45
julmummahey, how do you set gtk icons in kde4?20:45
databridgecan i test my vpn server and log in from my local network into my local server from the same net?20:45
ikoniawiseman: check the dependencies20:45
yoasdfi dont use nm-applet20:45
yoasdfi like wicd better20:46
ikoniawiseman: I doubt it will run on ubuntu due to a dependency with glibc which is much older20:46
Jordan_ULego_Dan, Did you verify the disk burned correctly and can you boot from other CD's ?20:46
ikoniawiseman: it's EOL and only compatible with RHEL320:46
wisemanI have it on good authority that it works20:46
kevin_zhongikonia: what do I do now?20:46
ikoniawiseman: ask that good authority what to do then20:46
ikoniakevin_zhong: restart Xorg20:46
wiseman/media/cdrom0$ /media/cdrom0/dsrc/i486_linux/obj/redirect: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory20:46
wisemanhow strange20:46
EvaLuaTehello20:46
Lego_Danyes i can boot from all my other OS disc. and memtest.. i'll recheck the cd20:46
ikoniawiseman: that is the dependencies breaking20:46
sebsebsebEvaLuaTe: hello20:46
kevin_zhongwait a sec20:46
wisemanis there a way to get the proper dependencies then?20:47
EvaLuaTeis there any way to remove items from gnome's 'Main Menu', like 'Places' for example?20:47
kevin_zhongthat file wasn't empty at all, I was just opening the wrong thing20:47
wisemanoh wait20:47
wisemannm20:47
wisemanI found I made a typo20:47
edgar_ola ?20:47
kevin_zhonghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/142287/20:47
keystr0kOkay, I used chmod g+s, but the new files did not take the ownership of the parent directory...?  they show up in Yellow now, but they are owned by apache:apache.   I'll poke around the web for a solution.20:47
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ikoniakevin_zhong: what is that ?20:47
Jordan_UEvaLuaTe, Right click > edit menus20:48
edgar_ola. .alguem em portugues ai????20:48
abstraktis mod_dav_svn available to install from any of the repos?20:48
clearscreen!pt | edgar_20:48
ubottuedgar_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.20:48
abstraktand how would i apt-get search for it?20:48
Picassotamuskeystr0k: You would need to use chown to change ownership20:48
kevin_zhongthats the file, it wasn't empty, sorry20:48
wisemanOH HAY20:48
edgar_é minha primeira vinda aqui.20:48
ikoniakevin_zhong: just replace it with what I gave you20:48
kevin_zhongok20:48
edgar_não sei nada de linux20:48
ikonia!es  | edgar_20:48
ubottuedgar_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:48
keystr0kPicassotamus, but isn't that the point of setting the setgid bit?  So that any new files take on the same permissions as their parent folder.20:48
keystr0k?20:48
clearscreenkevin_zhong: if you had just run nvidia-xconfig like I said before, your problem would be solved 15 min ago.. but whatever :P20:48
fosco_!br > edgar_20:48
ubottuedgar_, please see my private message20:48
kevin_zhonglol sorry clearscreen20:49
morereddatabridge: it should be possible let me try mine20:49
edgar_ok ok20:49
databridgei always have modem hangups20:49
databridgebut pptp is running20:49
kevin_zhongclearscreen: this is what was outputted when I inserted what you said... http://paste.ubuntu.com/142289/20:50
Picassotamuskeystr0k: chmod changes permissions, chown changes ownership20:50
clearscreenkevin_zhong: sudo nvidia-xconfig, sorry :P20:50
moreredwhat vpn server are you using?20:50
databridgepptp20:51
Lego_Danhmm.. verify disc copped out at 99% this time :S20:51
kevin_zhongok20:51
databridgei use normal debian and installed pptp20:51
ikoniakevin_zhong: just replace the xorg.conf with the file I gave you20:51
kevin_zhongi did20:51
ikoniadatabridge: this is ubuntu support - not debian support20:51
gluonmanI have blank disks that supposedly have 700mb of space, but when trying to burn the Ubuntu 8.10 iso to the disc (which is 698.8mb), Brasero says that the disk has only 679.9mb of space. I tried just overburning, but the disk didn't work. Do I need different disks?20:51
ikoniakevin_zhong: same problem ?20:51
databridgemy client is an ubuntu machine20:51
ikoniakevin_zhong: you restarted X after you put the file in place ?20:51
ikoniadatabridge: ahh I see20:51
kevin_zhongidk how to restart it20:52
* kevin_zhong is feeling kind of stupid20:52
databridgebut i would like to know if its possible to test my own vpn from the same local network20:52
ikoniakevin_zhong: ctrl+alt+backspace20:52
kevin_zhongok20:52
databridgenot specially debian/ubuntu/linux20:52
_chunNeed some help -- I've mapped Super L to a command using the "keyboard shortcuts20:53
Picassotamusdatabridge: There might be a #network channel you could try20:53
databridgeok20:53
abstraktapt-get build-deps subversion20:53
abstraktresults in an error: "invalid operation build-deps"20:53
ikoniawiseman: any joy ?20:54
abstrakttrying to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9376.html20:54
Picassotamusabstrakt: did you use sudo?20:54
_chunNeed some help -- I've mapped Super L to a command using the "keyboard shortcuts" tool that comes with jaunty - but every time I reboot, I have to re-map it. It shows up as being mapped, but the key doesn't have any effect until I re-map it.20:54
Lint01how can I switch keyboards in XFCE?20:54
abstraktPicassotamus, no, i'm root20:55
blip-hi,  I'm running kubuntu 8.04 and trying to set up pulseAudio based on this ubuntu guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio ... however the stuff under "Configuring PulseAudio" I cannot apply since I'm not running gnome... any idea how to do this from command line or via some KDE tool ?   thanks20:55
abstraktPicassotamus, i'm ssh'd in as root already20:55
gluonmanDoes anyone have a theory why I can't burn the Ubuntu 8.10 iso of 698.8mb to a 700mb disk that Brasero thinks only has 679.9mb on it?20:55
capiirajoin #ubuntu+20:56
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capiiraups20:56
Picassotamusabstrakt: ah, ok20:56
abstraktPicassotamus, for the record, i just tried adding "sudo" but as suspected it didn't change anything: still the same error20:56
Guest23043iam planning to switch distro's , hated suse , liked debain and ubuntu , any advice on what i should try next , i was thinking arch ??20:57
HeXiLeDgentoo20:57
wisemanerUSUL: Thanks for the help20:57
abstrakthahahah20:57
wisemanit seems to be working now.20:57
wisemanwe'll see in a minute20:57
abstraktdef not gentoo20:57
Jordan_Ublip-, YOu might try asking in #kubuntu20:57
HeXiLeDslackware20:57
erUSULwiseman: no problem20:57
packetcaseis it possible to remote login with ssh to my friends computer when he is at his place and I am at home?20:57
abstraktGuest23043, try FreeBSD and slackware... arch is good though too... pacman rocks20:58
wisemanikonia: you're a big negative nancy :-P20:58
HootchGuest23043: windows7 :)20:58
HeXiLeDfbsd20:58
wendytripho bisogno di aiuto non mi parte pi\ ubuntu20:58
* wiseman has heard nothing but good things about windows7. they might have finally gotten it right.20:58
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HeXiLeDabstrakt whats the problem with gentoo ?20:59
danbhfive!ot20:59
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!20:59
Lego_Danwell i burned another copy.. and I'll try again..20:59
abstraktno sane sysadmin for a real business (aka, not just you in your basement) would run Gentoo on a production server21:00
HeXiLeDwhy not ?21:00
clearscreentime = money21:00
HeXiLeDyes and ?21:00
HeXiLeDi dont spend much time with it21:01
clearscreengentoo = manually compile EVERYTHING21:01
clearscreen= time21:01
HeXiLeDnot really21:01
abstraktHeXiLeD, google dude, i'm not gonna go over the reasons that are well documented21:01
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HeXiLeDand i run it for 3 years . server/ workstation21:01
abstraktclearscreen, yeah that's not true, you can get different levels of "precompiled" gentoo21:01
blip-I need to check something in a guide with you before I follow it, they say that I should add "$IPT -A INPUT -p udp --dport 5353 -d 224.0.0.251 -j ACCEPT" to my firestarter config file, If I run firestarter, so that it will let pulseAudio communicating over Zeroconf/Avahi's port 5353.       what does that mean ?  The ip address looks wierd, why do I want it to use that port ?      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio     thanks21:01
HeXiLeDand lots os daemons online21:01
abstraktclearscreen, depending on how much "optimizing" you want21:01
HeXiLeDabstrakt extreme  it's what i use .21:01
clearscreenabstrakt: sure, but if you're going for that option you might as well pick a distribution that comes with apt21:02
HeXiLeDalways been stable21:02
wisemanwell crap21:02
abstraktclearscreen, sure... i wasn't saying anything about anything, except that gentoo does in fact give you the option to not comnpile "everything"21:02
wisemannow I can't find where the hell it is to run it21:02
Picassotamus!ot | HeXiLeD abstrakt clearscreen21:02
ubottuHeXiLeD abstrakt clearscreen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:02
abstraktbut that's the main reason ppl like it, so it's kinda besides the point in a way21:02
HeXiLeDwe got 2 warnings. eheh. i ll leave it here ;)21:03
abstraktPicassotamus, so... any idea on the build-deps thing?21:03
shadeslayerLjL: you free?21:03
abstraktPicassotamus, i *was* on topic... but haven't gotten much of a response21:04
boomkinglol thanks , i rate iam just gna try slackware i hear its a good place to up exp21:04
blip-it's slack21:04
Picassotamusabstrakt: actually yes :) ... its build-dep, not build-deps21:05
abstraktPicassotamus, ahh21:05
abstraktPicassotamus, bingo thanks that's it21:05
abstraktPicassotamus, horray for typos in the freaking command set on that HOWTO page on the forums21:05
Picassotamusabstrakt: right?21:06
wisemanSilly question:  Can I just give myself administrative privelages for doing graphical type tasks?  I want to drag and drop a few folders around and it says I don't have permission to do that21:06
abstraktdang, 350M of deps for subversion21:06
wisemanand I'd rather not use the terminal21:06
Lint01wiseman: sudo nautilus /21:06
abstraktwiseman, you can log into X11 as root21:06
ActionParsnipyo yo yo21:06
abstraktwiseman, yeah or better yet, sudo nautilus21:07
Mean_Admingoogle.com/linux is surprisingly a good idea21:07
crdlb!gksu21:07
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)21:07
ActionParsnipLint01: gksudo nautilus   you mean surely21:07
abstraktwiseman, and actually i'm pretty sure that there's a graphical sudo21:07
guntbertabstrakt: you can shoot yourself into the knee too :-))21:07
Jake1Hi, just installed.  Auto detected my vid card and suggested a restricted driver but nothing for my Gigabyte onboard sound.  Where do I start to get the correct driver?21:07
abstraktwiseman, well there you go :)21:07
ActionParsnipLint01: sudo is not for gui apps21:07
Lint01ActionParsnip: then "sudo nautilus / &"21:07
ActionParsnipLint01: no, not sudo <any gui app>21:08
Bsims{fs}I need help knowing if my psu is within spec http://paste.ubuntu.com/142300/21:08
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ActionParsnipLint01: sudo does not configure the environment for gui apps, thats why gksudo exists21:08
wisemancool thanks21:08
Lint01ActionParsnip: strange it always worked for me21:08
crdlbLint01: it works until it screws something up21:08
ActionParsnipLint01: it will work but it will break ownership and permissions21:09
Jake1Any suggestions for finding the correct sound driver? Not sure where to start.21:09
abstraktLint01, it's not so much "strange" as it is you just don't have all the information21:09
ActionParsnipJake1: lspci21:09
crdlbLint01: certain apps are perfectly safe to use with sudo, but others aren't, so it's best to never do it21:09
sebsebseb!sound |  Jake121:09
ubottuJake1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP321:09
ActionParsnipJake1: once you know the audio chip you can websearch for drivers21:09
Jake1Thanks everyone, I'll give it a shot.21:10
abstraktPicassotamus, ok i got some errors on that build deps thing... all of them are related to SSL packages not being found21:10
shadeslayerubottu is very intelligent ;)21:10
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:10
abstraktopenssl and friends21:10
shadeslayerbye21:10
abstraktPicassotamus, do i need to update my repos or something?21:10
noren_hey ActionParsnip21:10
ActionParsniphi noren_21:10
abstraktFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  404 Not Found21:10
abstraktwhat gives?21:11
geniiabstrakt: sudo apt-get update21:11
ActionParsnipabstrakt: can you ping security.ubuntu.com21:11
Dreamglidercan i get my USB GPS receiver to work in ubuntu 8.10, it is listed as  ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port with lsusb.21:11
talntidcan someone help me troubleshoot a pptp tunnel? :)21:11
ActionParsnipDreamglider: websearch for 067b:230321:11
geniiActionParsnip: 404 usually means server exists, the file however doesn't21:12
talntidused to work fine, now it doesn't21:12
abstraktgenii, yup looks like that worked, thanks21:12
geniiabstrakt: Yer welcome21:12
ActionParsnipgenii: i see (checked wikipedia)21:12
kitchenrangehey everyone21:12
sebsebsebDreamglider: maybe with some configuring to get it working properly in Ubuntu,  but  in a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu, I expect that would work21:12
sebsebsebkitchenrange: hi21:13
kitchenrangei have the weirdest problem if someone thinks they have the answer21:13
ActionParsnipabstrakt: if you apt-get update before all installs you'll get fewer issues21:13
abstraktActionParsnip, k, good to know21:13
guntbert!ask | kitchenrange21:13
ubottukitchenrange: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:13
ActionParsnipkitchenrange: ask away, the room will answer if it can21:13
kitchenrangeive had ubuntu on my computer for a while and I tried to install windows within a partition.21:13
abstrakti ran Ubuntu as my desktop a few years ago... it's been a while...21:13
kitchenrangewasnt asking to ask21:13
G8_Zer0I have a brand new assembled pc, 3 empty disks (1xIDE,2xSATA), when I boot up on Ubunutu, the menu appears. Select language. Install Ubuntu. ubuntu loading logo comes and then it writes "BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu6) built-in shell (ash). Enter Help for a list of built-in commands". And then I'm in console-mode (DOS mode). And I can only write commands. What to do?21:13
toorimaanyone know of some managment software, push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but not $150 a year and nod...21:13
kitchenrangei did install windows succesfully into a partition, but my computer wont boot into the linux partition. or even give me the option21:14
guntbertkitchenrange: please keep your question in *one* line21:14
Jordan_UG8_Zer0, What version of Ubuntu?21:14
sebsebsebkitchenrange: ok Windows has gone over Grub21:14
geniiG8_Zer0: Try setting your sata controller into "Compatibility" or "IDE" mode in your bios21:15
G8_Zer0Newest, 8.1021:15
sebsebseb!grub21:15
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:15
kitchenrangety sebsebseb21:15
ActionParsnipG8_Zer0: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded and also verify the cd burned was consistant?21:15
spydonI bought Ubuntu Phone Buddy, how can I give it enough power to charge phones?21:15
G8_Zer0I see it boots my sata disks on boot up. It's a PCI sata card btw21:15
sebsebsebkitchenrange: why do you want to dual boot?  if your computer has enough RAM, and you don't  want Windows 3D programs, how about Windows inside Ubuntu instead, in a virtual machine21:15
geniiG8_Zer0: The usual reason for it is that it doesn't know you have disks/cd etc attached because it has no specific sata driver for your chipset, but the bios setting makes it behave like a known one21:15
ellarkitchenrange, for those issues have a look for the supergrubdisk21:16
Maobaxciao21:16
G8_Zer0ActionParsnip, Yeah, made a check when burn ended. Tried several disks, from different computers aswell.21:16
Maobax!list21:16
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »21:16
ActionParsnipG8_Zer0: you may need to compile / install the SATA controller driver in the live cd before you can use it, you may need to disable acpi. depends on the card21:16
thom__bye all... I m gonna sign off21:16
G8_Zer0ok21:17
* thom__ thanks for all of d`help21:17
N1ckRAny tips for getting a ms word doc file to open correctly in openoffice (im running 3.01) ?21:17
Lint01!youtube21:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about youtube21:17
sebsebsebN1ckR: correctly in Open Office? explain what you mean exactly by that21:17
QaDeSis there free linux software to conveniently dub movies? or do you have any idea where to best look for something like that?21:17
G8_Zer0Source to find drivers? And does the manufactor have linux drivers?21:17
Iceman_B^Ltopcan a defective NIC be tracked down somehow from a console ?21:17
G8_Zer0I think it's asus or something, but haven't checked21:17
Lint01!flash21:18
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash21:18
N1ckRsebsebseb, the formatting is screwed big time.21:18
Jordan_UIceman_B^Ltop, There might be error messages in dmesg21:18
Dj-ToastHi all,  I freshly installed ubuntu 8.10 last weekend, and did all the upgrades on monday.  Yesterday theres were some other upgrades so i did those but now i have a blank screen.  Is there a way to see what fix was installed yesterday, roll back, or is theres a known fix for this21:18
imachineN1ckR, try saving it with 2000/xp format21:18
imachineN1ckR, 2007 is tricky.21:18
imachineespecially with docx21:18
unkohey guys. is it my drivers? or is it just my system im using ATI radeon mobility x1400. but my screen recorders are soo slow21:18
Lego_Dan!postfix21:18
the10nitroN1ckR: try OO.o 3,  it hasn't made it into the repos yet21:18
ubottupostfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer21:18
Iceman_B^LtopJordan_U: the card is still fucntioning, but I'm getting nothing but dropping connections. Have been wrestling with this problem for a few days now21:19
sebsebsebN1ckR: ok  yeah,  since .doc is a closed format,  every other program that isn't from Microsoft  that awnts to suppourt it had to reverse enginner suppourt for it, a very clever proggramming technique,  but as a result  suppourt won't be perfect.  Install Abiword, sometimes it deals with .doc's  way better than Open Office21:19
imachineunko, see if you have rendering/21:19
N1ckRIm running 3.01 from the ppa, sadly its a doc I have been given.21:19
unkoimachine, rendering?21:19
imachineunko, direct rendering that is. type 'glxinfo' in a terminal and see if you have Direct Rendering: yes21:19
* N1ckR reluctantly fires up xp up virtualbox21:19
imachinedirect rendering: Yes21:19
imachinesays in my case21:19
sebsebsebN1ckR: do Abiword as I said :)  and you can run Microsoft Office under Wine21:19
Jordan_UN1ckR, GoOO claims it has better support for some documents ( I think mostly .docx though )21:19
Lego_Dan!dovecot21:19
unkoimachine, ok hold on21:19
ubottuIMAP and POP are protocols for fetching email. The officially-supported server in Ubuntu is Dovecot (packages "dovecot-imapd" for IMAP, and "dovecot-pop3d" for POP) - See also !MailServer for information on the SMTP protocol21:19
imachinesebsebseb, I don't think it works under wine.21:20
unkoimachine, yea i do21:20
sebsebsebimachine: it does21:20
imachineunko, everything should work okay.21:20
imachineunko, what exactly is the problem?21:20
imachinesebsebseb, which version? it hadn't for a while21:20
unkoimachine, hmm...i don't know my system is fast but when it comes to recording my screen it's horribly slow21:20
imachineactually, it never did. hence the question21:20
imachineunko, ok, dunno.21:20
unkoimachine, ok thnx21:20
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imachineunko, maybe it's the recording software being slow.21:21
Jordan_UIceman_B^Ltop, ifconfig will give you some statistics21:21
unkoimachine, maybeee21:21
imachine;)21:21
sebsebsebimachine:  most of 2003 worked  ages in older wine versions.  and someone runs office 2007 in wine.   as for versions, alwasy get latest wine from http://www.winehq.org and add the Ubuntu repo so always get latest wine.  however  use  stuff such as Open Office, Abiword,  Gnumeric, and KOffice, before doing Microsoft Office under Wine21:21
sebsebsebN1ckR: KOffice is another one that can open your word doc21:21
wizaredmy dvd player plays the dvd but the video is scrambled21:22
wizaredany thoughts21:22
moreredDj-Toast: have you tried booting into recovery mode and selecting xfix21:22
gizmoanyone know the cli command for listing the battery stats?  I have a dell D600 which had a 4 hr battery yesterday and now refuses to charge since I hibernated.  I get the flashing red light on the laptop & flashing alternated  lights on the battery.21:22
Dj-Toastmorered: i can get in terminal.. let me try that now.21:22
sebsebsebN1ckR: the  Microsoft  Word document viewer from Microsoft, will work in Wine21:23
Dj-Toastmorered: probably something with nvidia again21:23
abstraktok, so i ran the ./configure && make && make install for subversion21:24
BullterdEvening All21:24
abstraktand it properly installed mod_dav_svn.so into /usr/lib/apache221:24
macman_guys .. say i cat all my external directories to a .txt file .. how can i rm all the files in the txt file but not certin ones ?21:24
n2diywizared: what are you using as the dvd player?21:24
geniiabstrakt: Why, when you could have just done   sudo apt-get install subversion       ?21:24
abstraktand i created a duplicate of dav.load in mods-available and editied it21:24
wizaredvcl21:24
BullterdIve just purchased a HP Proliant ML115 G5 server - it has onboard RAID. ive used the Nvidia RAID manager to RAID my two 160gb drive into a RAID 121:25
BullterdHowever, ubuntu doesnt seem to be picking up the drives21:25
BullterdHow do I go about loading drivers for this?21:25
rhythmsoupHi All, i have a machine here at home running ubuntu 8.04 its hung and i want to use ALT+SYSREQ+REISUB to shutit down but its not responding? what can i do to shutit down without killing the power?21:25
abstraktbut when i do a2enmod dav_svn.load it says "The module does not exist!"21:25
n2diydo you know your video chip set?21:25
G8_Zer0I tried pulling the sata card out and disconnected the sata disks, so only 1 IDE dvd drive and 1 IDE harddisk, booted up on the disc, but same result, just enters console mode instead of installaing ubuntu :|21:25
shadeslayerhi,when i try to mount /dev/sda3 it says only root can mount,any way so that i can mount the partition??21:25
mrTr0utokay, this isn't exactly ubunut related I guess but....I'm thinking of making the switch from windows to ubuntu, but for work I need a pdf reader that has measurement tools included(for reading blueprints) like brava! reader has...anyone know of an app similar to this?21:25
abstraktbut it does exist... and the mods-enabled are nothing more than symlinks to mods-available21:25
Dj-Toastmorered: Ya seems like i got in now.. but is there a list of updates somewhere?21:25
G8_Zer0Any ideas? Tried burning 4 discs... same result21:25
Ymse1How can I just format and fix the boot sector in Ubuntu.............21:25
abstraktand mods-available are nothing more than apache LoadModule directives all broken out into separate files21:25
erUSULshadeslayer: use sudo21:25
abstraktgenii, does that install the mod_dav_svn module also?21:26
shadeslayererUSUL: i want to remove the root permission21:26
Jake1Sound Driver Problem: So I have an NVidia nForce2 that seems to have been properly identified, but I've still got no sound.  Any ideas?21:26
decoomg i can't belive boliva is beating argentina 3-1 :-O21:26
sebsebseb!ot |  deco21:26
ubottudeco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:26
shadeslayererUSUL: also i can only mount it from terminal,nautilus cant see it21:26
Jake1(And yes I checked the sound levels on comp and equipment)21:26
rhythmsoupHi all how can i shutdown a hung machine?21:27
shadeslayerrhythmsoup: command line?21:27
mikechelenmy trashbin doesn't seem to be emptying, is it possible to delete the files manually from the filesystem?21:27
rhythmsoupALT+SYSREQ+REISUB dont work21:27
geniiabstrakt: libapache2-svn does21:27
rhythmsoupi cant get any keys to work on command line21:27
raddadrhythmsoup: pull the plug21:27
wizaredrhythmsoup: hold the power button until turns off21:28
shadeslayeryep21:28
n2diydo you know your video chip set?21:28
arthurL^ that21:28
rhythmsouparrgh wont that damage the disc?21:28
n2diywizared: do you know your video chip set?21:28
moreredDj-Toast: try sudo apt-get -u21:28
shadeslayererUSUL: ??21:28
rhythmsoupi cant swap ttys using CTRL+ALT+F! etc21:28
rhythmsoupi can swap i mean21:28
wizaredrhythmsoup: no. only do it when nothing else works.disk will recover21:28
abstraktgenii, apt-get install libapache2-svn ?21:28
abstraktgenii, i asked this question before, like an hour ago21:29
abstraktno one answered21:29
erUSULshadeslayer: i did not understand this "i want to remove the root permission" from where/what ?21:29
moreredwait,  that shows TOBE upgraded, sorry21:29
abstrakt"how do i install mod_dav_svn through apt-get, do i need to add repos" ?21:29
erUSULshadeslayer: once mounted nautilus will be able to access it21:29
abstraktso i went to google21:29
abstraktand the ubuntuforums page said to build it by hand21:29
abstraktfreakin, stupid21:29
guntbertabstrakt: if you press <enter> after every thought its nearly impossible to follow ( genii did obviously :-))21:29
shadeslayererUSUL: from /dev/sda321:29
geniiabstrakt: There's a lot of turnover. Good to ask every so often over a period of hours or more21:29
shadeslayererUSUL: earlier it used to show in nautilus21:30
mikechelen!enter21:30
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:30
loserbarhi everyone. im running windowmaker on a dell xps140m and im trying to get my media keys to work. now, ive notice that when i run nautilus without any flags in terminal my desktop icons appear and it has the general gnome feel... like it should but anyways my media keys also work. so what im asking of anyone here who can help is if they know what nautilus is referring to, to work with my media keys. im running intrepid with a stock x config21:30
loserbaruration any help would be appreciated.21:30
erUSULshadeslayer: what type of partition it is ? ntfs ?21:30
shadeslayererUSUL: yes21:30
Wanderervi question for the genious.  if I want to s search in vi for patter NOT  ^.~21:30
shadeslayererUSUL: dont give me the factoids ive used them ;)21:30
erUSULshadeslayer: when you double click on the volume icon in Places>Computer does it mounts ?21:31
abstraktgenii, guntbert, Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: dav_register_provider21:31
shadeslayererUSUL: i cant see them there,thats the main problem21:31
abstraktgenii, so i assume i'm still missing something...21:31
wizaredn2diy: radeon rv 100 qy   ati technologies21:31
Lego_Danum ok on first boot after install its doing this : screen goes black turns off... 15ish seconds later it comes back on with a rather large x in the bottom middle with the _ flashing in the top left.. and repeats..21:32
abstraktgenii, any idea what i'm missing?21:32
Grenyaris1in DHCP (dhclient) which script is it that gets the NEW ip address when a lease is renewed?21:32
n2diywizared: how about video off the internet, does that work?h21:32
Lego_Danand now is stuck on that screen21:32
wizaredn2diy: yes on some not all sites21:33
erUSULshadeslayer: have you added it to fstab?21:33
guntbertabstrakt: I lost track of your problem - what is it you want *actually* to achieve?21:33
nadoLego_Dan, just got here.. do you have an nvidia card ?21:33
Lego_Danno radeon 2400 HD21:33
shadeslayererUSUL: ill post my fstab,have a look and tell me if its there21:33
Lego_Dani rebooted its back at the kubuntu loading screen21:33
Lego_DanPCI not AGP21:33
n2diyHmmm, that is strange!?...21:33
geniiabstrakt: Looks like it's trying to load the module you compiled, unsuccessfully21:33
abstraktguntbert, install mod_dav_svn21:34
n2diy! radeon21:34
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:34
abstraktguntbert, pretty simple... or should be anyway21:34
nadoLego_Dan, you can check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any obvious errors showing up21:34
shadeslayererUSUL: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142317/21:34
abstraktgenii, that's what i thought too, but i just deleted the one i made21:34
Lego_Danfrom the kubutnu loading screen monitor turned off. came back on to _ flashing in top left big X in bottom middle21:34
abstraktgenii, damn this sucks... fucking retarded forum post21:34
Lego_Dansure how do i get to a terminal21:34
shadeslayerLego_Dan: ctrl+alt+F221:35
erUSULshadeslayer: it is there yes /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_IN 0 021:35
jpdsabstrakt: Please stay civil.21:35
ellar!grub > ellar21:35
ubottuellar, please see my private message21:35
abstraktgenii, and upon apt-get remove libapache2-svn; apt-get install libapache2-svn; i get the same error i got when trying to a2enmod the thing manually when i compiled it: "This module does not exist!"21:35
Lego_Dani did that logged in and it tried to boot kde right away... so i lost the terminal21:35
shadeslayererUSUL: and what do wwe do about it??21:35
shadeslayer*we21:36
sebsebsebLego_Dan: applications  > assessories > terminal21:36
erUSULshadeslayer: comment it out21:36
mikechelenmy trashbin doesn't seem to be emptying, is it possible to delete the files manually from the filesystem?21:36
shadeslayererUSUL: what!!21:36
Lego_Dansebsebseb how do i do that with no window manager?21:36
abstraktjpds, i'm just a bit sore cuz this has been a giant waste of time... installing mod_dav_svn has never been this rediculous and i've done it plenty of times, just not on ubuntu21:36
erUSUL!trash | mikechelen21:36
ubottumikechelen: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash21:36
nadoLego_Dan, try ctrl+alt+f2 again21:36
shadeslayer!tty> Lego_Dan21:37
ubottuLego_Dan, please see my private message21:37
mikechelenerUSUL, cool thanks21:37
moreredDj-Toast: you could try installing and running dselect21:37
erUSULshadeslayer: put a # infront of the line that begins with /dev/sda321:37
shadeslayerok21:37
scunizimikechelen: they typically won't delete because of permission problems with the files.. the link above gives the location.. once there in the directory sudo chmod 777 *21:37
shadeslayererUSUL: done21:37
abstraktis there a channel pastebin?21:37
abstrakt!topic21:37
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic21:37
Lego_Danthanks shades21:37
abstraktahh, there we go21:37
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shadeslayerLego_Dan: np21:38
erUSULshadeslayer: install ntfs-config and run it « gksudo ntfs-config »21:38
BehiiMehiiWhat's the package to install the latest nVidia driver?21:38
Elonedo ubuntu got speech recognition software?21:38
sebsebsebBehiiMehii:  you  get the latest one available in Hardware drivers if one is available21:38
sebsebsebBehiiMehii: system > administaration > hardware drivers21:39
abstraktgenii, guntbert, Picassotamus http://paste.ubuntu.com/142321/21:39
Lego_Danthere is no way that i messed up both passwords...21:39
sebsebsebBehiiMehii: installing one directly from Nividia should be a last resort21:39
mikechelenscunizi, there are two subdirs, files and info, both are empty though so maybe trash icon is just not updating21:39
shadeslayererUSUL: new device : /dev/sda321:39
nadoLego_Dan, the same login / password you use to login in kde ... you must be doing something wrong21:39
shadeslayererUSUL: error when applying new device21:40
Lego_DanI haven't been able to log into kde it won't even boot kde :P21:40
shadeslayererUSUL: ** (ntfs-config:9648): WARNING **: Error : An error occured when trying to configure /media/OS, please retry. Thanks.21:40
No-NeckHi, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu server, ATi and my 1080p TV, I'm currently stuck with 1776x1000, aticonfig --query-dispattib=tmds1 returns no info and I'm unable to use it to set the proper resolution, any ideas why?21:40
nadook Lego_Dan, during installation they asked you for a login / password :)21:40
sebsebsebLego_Dan: try #kubuntu21:40
erUSULshadeslayer: :|21:41
genii!info libapache2-svn hardy21:41
shadeslayerLego_Dan: is the CD/DVD burned by yourself ??21:41
ubottulibapache2-svn (source: subversion): Subversion server modules for Apache. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 133 kB, installed size 336 kB21:41
shadeslayererUSUL: ?21:41
genii!info libapache2-svn intrepid21:41
ubottulibapache2-svn (source: subversion): Subversion server modules for Apache. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.1dfsg1-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 144 kB, installed size 348 kB21:41
geniiabstrakt: So you are using 9.04?21:41
Lego_Danyes. im going to try the install again..atleast fix the password at this point21:41
erUSULshadeslayer: no idea what may be wrong... can you mount the partitions via sudo mount without errors?21:42
abstraktgenii, 8.04 ?21:42
abstraktgenii, yes21:42
geniiabstrakt:  8.04=hardy  8.10=Intrpid 9.04(which is not released yet)= Jaunty21:42
abstrakti'm on hardy21:42
Lego_Danhaha...21:43
Lego_DanLego isn't the same as leg21:43
Lego_Danlego21:43
shadeslayererUSUL: lol,i just had a look at fstab again and /dev/sda3 is no where to be seen21:43
kaktus_what is the channel for jaunty support21:43
guntbertabsr21:43
shadeslayererUSUL: mount with sudo works21:43
sebsebseb!jaunty21:43
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.21:43
shadeslayererUSUL: cannot see it tho21:44
kaktus_thanks21:44
kaktus_/wc/21:44
erUSULshadeslayer: if you do nautilus /media/OS ?21:44
guntbertabstrakt: I just installed with sudo aptitude install libapache2-svn, and it went through without any errors21:44
shadeslayererUSUL: no21:44
abstraktguntbert, er... should i use aptitude instead of apt-get ?21:45
wizaredhow do you install restricted drivers in 8.1021:45
shadeslayererUSUL: can you point me to a link which can generate my fstab?21:45
sebsebsebabstrakt: aptitude deals with depandancies better21:45
erUSULwizared: System>Admin>hardware drivers21:45
guntbertabstrakt: maybe try it, its said to resolve dependencies more automatically21:45
erUSULshadeslayer: regenerate it ?21:45
abstraktguntbert, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with deps21:45
shadeslayererUSUL: kind of21:46
wizarederUSUL: i did that and gave me no options21:46
abstraktguntbert, same error when using aptitude21:46
abstraktfreakin A... i mean really what i need to do basically, is revert the make install that i did when i build subversion by hand21:46
abstraktbut how do i do that...21:46
wisemanerUSUL: pro/E is now working great21:46
erUSULwizared: what hardware do you want to "enable"21:46
wisemanthanks21:46
abstraktis there such a thing as a reverse to the "make install" command?21:47
erUSULwiseman: no problem; glad you made it21:47
danbhfiveabstrakt: make uninstall21:47
wizarederUSUL: my radeon ati video card21:47
erUSULabstrakt: depends on the programer it may have coded a "make uninstall" but most don't21:47
danbhfiveabstrakt: also check out checkinstall for next time21:47
shadeslayererUSUL: should i copy my fstab from the paste?21:47
erUSUL!ati | wizared21:47
ubottuwizared: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:47
guntbertabstrakt: look in the logs, maybe the error stems from something different and is misinterpreted21:47
erUSULshadeslayer: you just need the line that dissapeared... if you want to restore it21:48
wizarederUSUL: followed that and there is no entry for intrepid21:48
abstraktguntbert, er... which logs? there are lots of logs...21:48
shadeslayererUSUL: ok21:48
Lego_Danok nobody in kubuntu seems to be active.21:49
Ymse1How can I reset the Mater Boot Record with the Ubuntu instalation CD???21:49
erUSULwizared: what radeon model do you have ?21:49
shadeslayer!grub> Ymse121:49
ubottuYmse1, please see my private message21:49
guntbertabstrakt: just to compare: my output is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/142328/21:49
abstraktomg... apt-get autoremove subversion and i removed libapache2-svn and when i go to reinstall them21:49
abstrakti get the same error21:49
mickeywhats the gnome program that shows processess it's like windows task manager21:49
abstraktgrrr... myabe need to reinstall apache i guess21:49
Picassotamusmickey: System Monitor i believe21:50
wizarederUSUL: RV 100 QY also Radeon 700 ve21:50
shadeslayererUSUL: atleast i can access the partition now21:50
shadeslayererUSUL: ill come back tommorow21:50
shadeslayersleepy21:50
geniiabstrakt: Apologies on lag, work required me. Enable optional repositories, which is where this package is located as indicated by the bot21:50
erUSULwizared: then you should use the free radeon driver... i think that fglrx does not support that old hardware21:51
mickeyPicassotamus, how do u make it launch with ctrl alt del21:51
erUSULwizared: that's why it does not show up in Hardware drivers21:51
genii!info libapache2-svn hardy > genii21:51
abstraktgenii, er... wait, "this" package? which package is "this" package?21:51
geniiNo, it's in main21:51
abstraktgenii, my repos seem to be finding the two just fine21:52
Picassotamusmickey: no idea sorry21:52
abstraktgenii, i don't think i need to change/add repos21:52
wizarederUSUL: thank you21:52
buggehi21:53
rhythmsou1hi, does anyone know if there are drivers for the "Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" in 8.04?21:54
erUSULrhythmsou1: which ones? « lspci | grep -i vga »21:55
abstraktscrew it, i'm gonna reformat the server, the thing is brand new anyway21:55
abstraktPicassotamus, genii, should i go with 8.04 or 8.10? suggestions?21:55
abstrakti have a bunch of options, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu21:55
moreredmickey: command gnome-system-monitor   see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7956021:55
abstrakti would prefer Ubuntu i think21:55
geniiabstrakt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libapache2-svn shows required prerequisites are: apache2.2-common libc6 and libsvn1   ... maybe check that these are installed21:55
rhythmsou1erUSUL: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)21:56
abstraktgenii, well apache is def installed21:56
mickey   for some reason when i start firefox it starts in a semi-full mode like i can't see my applications on the bottom or my close or maximize buttons on the top... how do I change this?21:56
abstraktgenii, so i can only assume that means that apache2.2-common is installed too21:56
krushikdoes ubuntu have some kind of "testing" (like in debian) repository?  i have libqt4-webkit 4.4.1  but 4.4.3 is needed21:56
Picassotamusabstrakt: I tend to stick w/ the LTS version of ubuntu 8.04 in this case21:56
abstrakti can only assume that libc6 is installed too21:56
moreredF11?21:56
abstraktPicassotamus, k21:56
geniiabstrakt: You can check with syntax like:  apt-cache policy <packagename>21:56
magomartinoHello everybody, is anyone experienced with user mode linux and tuntap connectivity?21:57
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rhythmsou1erUSUL: my "Lshw" shows both displays as "unclaimed" but the display works ok, its just when I play an .avi movie it kills the whole machine regardless of the movie player it seems21:58
the10nitrois there a command line tool to view text-only pdfs?21:58
zashthe10nitro: there is a cli tool to dump text from a pdf21:59
the10nitroWhat is it?21:59
zashThe program 'pdftotext' can be found in the following packages: * poppler-utils * xpdf-utils21:59
moreredmagomartino: more details pls22:00
the10nitrozash: Thank you, that is what I needed!22:00
erUSULrhythmsou1: maybe they use xv and it is a bug with it... try "mplayer -vo x11 video_file"22:00
keystr0kOkay... so can the USER be automatically created for new files/folders like the group id can?  set uid recursively?22:01
magomartinook, actually I've been able to create a user mode linux machine, problem is that I'd like to connect it with my lan connection22:01
zashthe10nitro: glad i could help22:01
tanjaundkainabend...22:01
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tanjaundkai#ubuntuuser-wiki22:02
tanjaundkaiwhich language is spoken here?22:02
magomartinoa solution was to enable ipforwarding in proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding and then connect the eth0 of the virtual machine to a tap device in the host machine22:02
magomartinobut somehow it didn't worked in my machine22:03
guntberttanjaundkai: english only, please22:04
jmacfuzedanyone here have any experience with highpoint PCI-E raid cards and ubuntu?22:04
tanjaundkaithanx - its my broken schoolenglish - but i hope you will understand me22:04
ursusssI have problem with the grub file. I wanted to merge 2 NTFS partitions on WinXP, and a reboot was needed. After that neither grub, neither the xp program could start. I use Xubuntu LiveCD now.22:05
bobessutioI know it's slightly offtopic... but does anybody know about register.com being down? Do they run linux on their servers? Is it part of a larger issues?22:05
tanjaundkaiwhen i will change my ubuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 - how i can get my new ubuntu to my same settings???22:05
moreredmagomartino: sorry no clue22:06
ursusssI tried to reinstall grub file, here is the error message: http://pastebin.com/d16aa7be And here is my hard drive, really chaotic now:  http://pastebin.com/d3ac1390c22:06
guntbert!jaunty | tanjaundkai22:06
ubottutanjaundkai: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.22:06
dreamyis there any network manager similar to wicd .. but for debian  ?22:06
guntbert!de | und dann, tanjaundkai22:07
ubottuund dann, tanjaundkai: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:07
erUSULdreamy: debian is offtopic here ask in #debian. wicd should work in debian too22:07
dreamyops .. ok22:07
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tanjaundkaiubottu: thank you for your help! have a nice n8 - good bye22:09
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:09
tanjaundkaijoin #ubuntu-de22:09
guntberttanjaundkai: /join.... :-))22:09
Guest48127i have an onboard video driver, and i installed an AGP card, and now the onboard doesnt work...does anyone know how to fix it?22:10
tanjaundkaiguntbert: its very hard to detect a real greenhorn?   lol22:10
ExelisAnybody here that can help with a Panel / app window issue?22:11
guntberttanjaundkai: no problem, everybody is a greenhorn sometimes, somewhere :-))22:11
erUSUL!ask | Exelis22:11
ubottuExelis: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:11
guntbert!anyone | Exelis22:11
ubottuExelis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:11
p0rtw0rfHey guys22:11
p0rtw0rfIs there anybody up there? ^^22:12
freethewhathaving connection issues with nm-applet 0.7.0 is there a good place for documentation?22:12
n2diycan you read your cpu temp. from the terminal?22:12
Guest48127how to get AGP card and onboard video to work as dual monitor?22:12
Exelisok...My panels no longer display icons for open applications/windows, and when I minimize I have to alt-tab to bring these windows back up, since the icons are not present on the Panel. Is there a way to fix this?22:12
tanjaundkaiguntbert: when i type /join ubuntu-de - nothing happens... greenhorn-greatings22:12
tanjaundkaioh... wait.22:13
p0rtw0rfCan anyone tell me if aircrack is possible and worklng on psp or iPhone?22:13
guntberttanjaundkai: you need /join #ubuntu-de22:13
n2diytanjaundkai: you forgot the #22:13
abstraktwhich startup file is the one that happens only once? is it .bashrc or .bash_profile?22:13
jribabstrakt: use ~/.profile22:14
shadeslayererUSUL: i think i found it ,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25054822:15
abstraktjrib, k, why?22:15
abstraktjrib, i can't remember the difference22:15
jribabstrakt: eh?  it's the one that gets executed once (at login)22:15
Mascodosalam22:16
shadeslayererUSUL: what do you think?22:16
guntbertabstrakt: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/etcprofile-v.s.-etcbashrc-273992/22:16
abstraktjrib, so how do you know that i should use ~/.profile, you don't even know what i want to do with it yet...22:17
abstraktguntbert, thanks22:17
abstraktclick*22:17
jribabstrakt: you said you wanted the one that was only sourced once...22:17
guntbertabstrakt: yw :)22:17
jribabstrakt: if there's more to it, then please continue..22:18
abstraktjrib, no i said which one is it22:18
ExelisMy main panel (default position at screen bottom) no longer displays window/app icons to switch around/minimize-maximize. Is there a fix for this?22:18
shadeslayer /quit Tired......sleeping22:18
abstraktjrib, so things like alias ll="ls -l"22:18
abstraktjrib, should that go into rc or profile?22:19
leagrisAnyone can help on error : cat /dev/pole gives "there is no fish yet"22:19
jribabstrakt: doesn't matter, they go into .bashrc usually though (there are commented ones in the default one)22:19
guntbertleagris: not here please22:20
centHOGGrhi, I can't start my xserver coming from just a ubuntu server install.. aptitude install LXDE .. reboot .. no X22:21
erUSULcentHOGGr: startx gives ? wnhat error ?22:21
centHOGGrerUSUL: hi, it gives a segmentation fault22:22
erUSUL:|22:22
abstraktjrib, k thx22:22
centHOGGrerUSUL: I wonder if lxde loads all the xserver components?22:22
centHOGGri had to load xinit myself... is that important22:23
erUSULcentHOGGr: not really sure... but a segmentation fault is not easy to debug by us nonprogramers...22:23
centHOGGrerUSUL: would you know if it is possible to load xubuntu-lxde without all the bells and whistles?22:24
tihomirj add22:24
centHOGGropen office22:24
erUSULcentHOGGr: nope sorry... maybe in #ubuntu-server someone faced the same problem22:24
centHOGGrthx22:24
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SquarcHi there, is this message received?22:26
Squarchmm :( guess network broke up again :(22:26
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-Hi Administrators, I need a help or an answer.22:28
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rickestEx-QuAke[DOD]-M-: just ask22:28
Nytrixwill windows xp read ext2 or ext3?22:28
talntidHey all. I am having some trouble with pptp tunneling...22:28
jrib!ext3 | Nytrix22:28
ubottuNytrix: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org22:28
talntidvpn22:28
talntidall my settings appear correct, and used to work like this.. but no longer do...22:29
talntidbut another machine can connect to the remote server... works fine22:29
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-ok I haven't received Ubuntu's new version since about November 1 until now. I have done that with shipit from that time.22:29
joakimkWhat do I have to do to be able to play video (avi, mpg, etc) in Ubuntu 8?22:29
Nytrixwhich is better ex2 or 3?22:30
Nytrixext2 or 3?22:30
SlimeyPeteerm, it should just work, joakimk22:30
SlimeyPeteNytrix: 322:30
Nytrixthnx22:30
rickestjoakimk: google vlc and w32codecs22:30
rickestNytrix: ext322:30
rickestjoakimk: and 'ubuntu' of course22:30
joakimkSlimeyPete: Well, I double click an avi file, and Totem opens. And quits again... :)22:30
jgreenis there a data capture program like charles for ubuntu?22:30
SlimeyPetejoakimk: ah. Yeah, try VLC (VideoLAN Client)22:31
SlimeyPeteTotem is pretty rubbish22:31
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I can put a message in shipit here. 1st request -> It supposes to arrive here long time ago. I never receive it. I had to try to make a new request. It said denied.22:31
joakimkSlimeyPete: But VLC also just shuts down immediately22:31
simardsince yesterday X crashes and its log and dmesg point me to: mtrr: base(0xda000000) is not aligned on a size(0x5000000) boundary, anyone knows what this means ? it would seem it's a video driver bug, but I havent touched that recently...22:31
joakimkI have it installed22:31
SlimeyPetejoakimk: hrm, strange22:32
SlimeyPetesounds like it might be a problem with XV or your video driver22:32
freethewhathaving connection issues with nm-applet 0.7.0 is there a good place for documentation?22:32
crdlbjoakimk: run gstreamer-properties, go to the video tab and click Test under Default Output22:32
simardSlimeyPete, XV ?22:32
tanjaundkai#ubuntu-de22:33
SlimeyPetesimard: XV is the main video acceleration library under Linux. Most players use it by default.22:33
centHOGGrhi, how can you change xserver to only use the vesa driver? thx22:33
joakimkcrdlb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142355/ is the error message I get22:33
crdlbjoakimk: ok, it is an XVideo problem :)22:34
crdlbjoakimk: what video card?22:34
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-First request like this. I never receive this.22:34
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-1 CDs requested on 2008-11-09. 1 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-11-10. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 622:34
joakimkcrdlb: Radeon X130022:34
cpk1it should be fairly easy and straight forward to set up a dns that resolves everything to a certain page right?  (would like to rick roll everyone at my house =P)22:34
crdlbjoakimk: using fglrx or radeon?22:34
mrsteveman1ughh, upgrading to jaunty kernel switched my device names around, always fun realizing you just made a new filesystem on the disk with your data and DD'd the old one22:34
joakimkcrdlb: uh... radeon? I think? Do you mean driver, or hardware?22:34
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I tried 2nd request again. It says like this.22:34
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-1 CDs requested on 2009-02-10. This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped.22:34
crdlbjoakimk: driver (have you enabled the restricted driver?)22:35
crdlbjoakimk: if you're using radeon, then you can just switch to EXA22:35
joakimkcrdlb: no, I don't think I've enabled any restricted driver22:35
joakimkcrdlb: EXA?22:35
crdlbjoakimk: the old mode (XAA) cannot support textured video with a compositing manager, so you need to switch to the new one (EXA)22:35
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Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-That supposes to arrive here like about 6 weeks. I never get it from you guys.22:36
crdlbjoakimk: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" in Section "Device"22:36
Grenyaris1Anybody know this? DHCP (dhclient) which script is it that gets the NEW ip address when a lease is renewed? Exit script or Enter script?22:36
joakimkcrdlb: So that's still Radeon drivers, then?22:36
crdlbjoakimk: yep, and jaunty will use EXA by default22:37
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-You know what's going on with this, rickest?22:37
OmniDrinkI tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.22:38
Matsondo apt-get and dpkg work on ubuntu?22:38
joakimkcrdlb: Right now, I only have one line in my Device section: "Identifier      "Configured Video Device" Just add a new line here?22:38
Matsonsimilar to the same commands on debian?22:38
crdlbjoakimk: yep22:38
joakimkcrdlb: ...and restart X?22:38
crdlbjoakimk: yes22:38
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I already sent an email to shipit. I never receive an email from them too.22:38
joakimkcrdlb: OK, thanks! See you on the other side ;)22:38
RedMushroomcan anyone tell me how to use smart boot manager in xp?22:38
jtsmeedHi folks.  Problem with Phenom X4 only using one core (not responding...  during boot).  Problem only exists if Logitech USB receiver is plugged in while booting.  Any ideas/suggestions?22:39
OmniDrink I tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.22:39
Matsonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103462 from 2005  says that yes - they do.   wondering if that is still accurate, specifically in 8.04 LTS22:39
RedMushroomwhat do you need to use smart boot manager (sbm) besides sbminst.exe and a floppy?22:39
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I guess administrators are not here.22:40
oCean_Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: In this channel you'll mostly find volunteers22:40
rhythmsoupHi I have a problem with a Dell E6400, when I play a AVI file the whole machine stops responding http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6996391#post699639122:40
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-ok what channel are administrators in? I need to speak with them.22:40
RedMushroomdoes anyone know where i can find a tutorial on how to use smart boot manager with xp?22:40
OmniDrink I tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.22:41
rickestEx-QuAke[DOD]-M-: no, I'm sorry I don't.  from what you wrote it appears the first request was given to a shipper for delivery. that might account for the refusal of the second request.  I just don't know, sorry22:41
MatsonI'm looking at installing ubuntu for te first time22:41
erUSULEx-QuAke[DOD]-M-: administrators of what?22:42
Matsonhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download shows 8.04 and 8.1022:42
jmacfuzzyok, i need some help! i rendered the machine non-booting because i didn't rmmod and delete sata_mv after loading my newly-compiled highpoint rocketraid 2300 driver. i'm on the livecd now, is there any way to get my install back up and running?22:42
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I sent the email to them one month ago. I got no words from them.22:42
Grenyaris1OmniDrink: There is a list of supported applications under Wine, is the Creative Manager one of them?22:42
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-administrators who are in charge with Ubuntu.com22:42
Matsonwhat factors go into chosing which one to use?22:42
erUSULjmacfuzzy: you can mount the ubuntu partition and manipulate files within22:42
jmacfuzzyi have it mounted22:42
jmacfuzzybut i can't seem to remove the sata_mv.ko22:42
jmacfuzzynot sudo, nothin22:43
newuserhi all, just installed 8.04 onto this laptop (please dont ask why 8.04 I have my reasons)....anyway ctrl-alt-bkspace does not restart x....could it be something with this keyboard or is the feature disabled???  Suggestions?22:43
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erUSULjmacfuzzy: what's the error you get when you try to rm it?22:44
sebsebsebnewuser:  8.04  that's alright,  having 8.0422:44
mesutcan i send a popup like message,to users logged in gnome (from console as root)22:44
Matsonwhat is teh difference between 8.04 and 8.10?22:44
Veronika_sweethi to all!22:44
Matsonit is as simple as a dist-upgrade to go from 8.04 to 8.10?22:44
sebsebsebMatson: not much,  except completly different versions of  Xorg22:45
jmacfuzzylet me try it, hold up22:45
Grenyaris1OmniDrink: I am not sure it is...but if not, you can go to CodeWeavers web site and order up CrossOver...22:45
oCean_Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: well I think you should try and contact the shipit guys again. The ops here don't have anything to do with the media shipping22:45
sebsebsebVeronika_sweet: hello22:45
erUSUL!upgrade | Matson22:45
ubottuMatson: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading22:45
newusersebsebseb so why is ctrl-alt bkspace not working ( i did use displayconfig-gtk to get 1024x768 rez.) Could that have messed something up?22:45
Veronika_sweetHow can I upgrade my repositories?22:45
sebsebsebnewuser: unfortunatlly I don't know about that one,  and have you installed the graphics card driver22:45
rickestMatson: it's also best to do a fresh install if possible but personally I've dist-upgraded the last 3 times without any problems except very small tweaks22:45
sebsebseb!repo22:45
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories22:45
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-ok I will come back if I never receive the email from them again.22:45
Matsonwill there be a 9.04?22:45
Matsonand will it be LTS?22:46
erUSULVeronika_sweet: define "upgrade repositories" what do you want to achieve ?22:46
Veronika_sweetI only have repositories of old programmes22:46
sebsebsebMatson:  April 23rd  9.04  and it won't be LTS22:46
lstarnesMatson: 9.10 will be LTS22:46
jmacfuzzyok, so it worked this time22:46
crdlblstarnes: 10.0422:46
jmacfuzzyi used the -f to force it, that worked22:46
erUSULMatson:  yes ther wilol be a 9.04 no it is not LTS22:46
Veronika_sweet642389685.0422:46
Veronika_sweethahahaha22:46
newusersebsebseb when I run hardware drivers, I get no proprietary drivers22:46
Matsonthanks sebsebseb lstarnes erUSUL22:47
jmacfuzzywill the kernel simply not load that sata_mv.ko module since it's gone next time that I boot?22:47
erUSULVeronika_sweet: which version of ubuntu are you running?22:47
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-I sent it22:47
sebsebsebnewuser: damn that issue :(.   Linux distros are great, but xorg isn't22:47
erUSULjmacfuzzy: probably... a better approach is to blacklist it22:47
newusersebsebseb, should I try to select different driver when running displayconfig-gtk?22:47
sebsebsebnewuser: I am not sure,  just stick around, and someone else, can probably help22:48
jmacfuzzyerUSUL: can you explain blacklisting to me?22:48
Grenyaris1Veronika_sweet: your repositories are geared to have the programs compatible with your version of the operating system. So long as newer versions of programs will run on your kernel, you have the latest version.22:48
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macman_hey22:48
newuserright now it says i810 sebsebseb22:48
macman_how can i break a symbolik link ?22:48
macman_ln -s creats it .. how do i break it22:48
erUSUL!blacklist | jmacfuzzy22:48
ubottujmacfuzzy: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »22:48
RedMushroomwhere can i d/l cwsdpmi.exe? why do i need it to use sbminst.exe?22:48
jmacfuzzythank you, sir22:48
sixhatmacman_: rm it...22:48
Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-see you later22:49
Matsoncan we get 9.04 now?22:49
sebsebsebnewuser: if there's a graphics card driver availalbe get it22:49
oCean_Matson: you can get a beta release.22:49
Grenyaris1Isn't 9.04 in BETA yet?22:49
macman_sixhat, rm what ? the source or what ?22:49
sebsebsebMatson: yes, but  for various reasons    not  the best idea22:49
Matsonand simply update as needed until/after release?22:49
erUSULMatson: yes a beta version help in #ubuntu+1 not here22:49
oCean_Grenyaris1: yes22:49
erUSUL!jaunty | Matson22:49
ubottuMatson: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.22:49
sixhatmacman_: rm the link22:49
timahvo1hi. how can I resume installing a package with apt-get install that was interrupted by a break in my internet connection ?22:50
Grenyaris1Right, so macman_...NOT the best of ideas, but not the worst either...22:50
macman_yea22:50
macman_lol it worked22:50
soluxionee yo22:50
Grenyaris1sorry "Matson" not "macman_22:50
Matsonthanks22:50
jmacfuzzyerUSUL: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist sound right (no my_blacklist)22:51
newusersebsebseb how do I see what one I currently have from command line22:51
spaceBARbariancan someone help me i can't get ubuntu to properly control my laptop's internal fans22:51
soluxioneHello to somebody.....22:51
erUSULjmacfuzzy: maybe to generic... you can name it my_raidcard_blacklist so you know at a glance why the file is there22:51
Grenyaris1However, Matson, I have friends who run Debian Unstable...so, it all depends on the level of pain you are willing to suffer... but even with that, I would easily upgrade to Ubuntu's latest before I would even think about Upgrading to Microsoft's latest...22:52
jmacfuzzyah i thought i was just supposed to tail something to the existing blacklist22:52
noren_is there any way to know the details of the PSU from the konsole22:52
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sebsebsebnewuser: you don't normalley,  you just install the graphics card driver that is available the latest one, and  that's that :)   restart  x22:53
sebsebsebnewuser: and hope everything works22:53
Matsonhow long will 8.10 be supported?22:53
oCean_noren_: I'm not sure if the information you want is there, but try "sudo lshw -C power"22:53
sebsebsebnewuser: and if not you can go to recovery mode on the boot loader, to get x back to how it was22:53
noren_leme try22:53
soluxioneItalian men for help me?22:53
sebsebsebMatson: 18 months22:53
soluxioneItalian men for help me?22:54
erUSUL!it | soluxione22:54
ubottusoluxione: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:54
soluxioneItalian men for help me?22:54
sebsebsebMatson: standard releases such as  8.10 and 9.04 get 18 months of suppourt, where as long term suppourt releasese such as 8.04  get  3 years suppourt on the desktop and 5 on the server22:54
noren_oCean_: nothing came up22:54
oCean_noren_: In that case, it's only for batteries I guess22:54
soluxioneOK! Thank's.....22:54
Matsonare the packages for 8.04 desktop and 8.04 server different?22:55
sebsebsebMatson: and  so LTS's  aren't really considered a downgrade even,  plus slightly more cutting edge stuff with be in the versions before the next LTS22:55
jmacfuzzyerUSUL: ok, i see other files in the directory with names like that22:55
sebsebsebMatson: no they will use the same stuff22:55
Grenyaris1Ok, so since I am not getting a response about dhclient's scripts, how about a suggestion for the following idea -- I want to run ddclient ONLY when my external IP address changes (hence the desire to know when the IP lease is renewed, in exit or entry script for dhclient)...currently ddclient runs ALWAYS...but I don't need that...and I don't want to worry about it manually... Any Ideas?22:55
sebsebsebMatson: you can get the server stuff in the desktop version22:55
jmacfuzzyare the files just parsed and the "blacklisted" part looked for?22:55
erUSULMatson: no; you just get a different selection of packages installed by default22:55
Matsonjust more packages in the default list for server?22:55
noren_oCean_: how can i get more info abt my PSU22:55
Matsonright22:55
crdlbMatson: it also uses a different kernel by default22:55
jmacfuzzymeaning like you said, it wouldn't matter what i named it as long as i had the blacklisted <modulename> in there22:56
erUSULjmacfuzzy: yep probably they are all cated together and the fed to modprobe22:56
jmacfuzzyi think i understand the process now22:56
Matsoncrdlb: really?22:56
jmacfuzzythanks for your help, i'm gonna see if that worked with a reboot22:56
jmacfuzzywe'll see if i come back from the dead here22:56
crdlbMatson: -server instead of -generic22:56
erUSULjmacfuzzy: as long as it is in the /etc/modprobe.d/ dir too22:56
jmacfuzzygot it22:57
oCean_noren_: don't know, really22:57
spaceBARbarianhow can i fix this: ubuntu doesnt push my laptop's internal fans to high speed when the temperatures are high, they are always at the slow setting22:57
brighteae22:57
brightalgum br aqui?22:57
erUSUL!br22:57
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.22:57
brightvlw22:57
Matsonare the amd64 server kernels smp22:58
Ienorandhow can I make the find command show no errors/output messages?22:58
AthenonCHEAP INTERNET NOW!   http://www.google.com/tisp22:59
Grenyaris1erUSUL: Oxi! Kanenas etho melai Portuguesa... mas sighorietai!22:59
t-robhi, i'm new to ubuntu and linux. i would like to know how i modify conky config. i don't know the terminal command, and when i go through the.. GUI i get access denied.22:59
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soluxioneHemm.... Sorry i have missed the link for the italian chat! Can we get me? Thank's!22:59
PickleManme loves ubuntu22:59
erUSULMatson: all ubuntu kernels are (except i386 iirc)22:59
Matsonare there scratch that - I was looking at "dedicated smp"...  looks like smp is supported22:59
PickleManHey23:00
MatsonerUSUL: thanks23:00
PickleManare there any wireless drivers for ubuntu23:00
PickleManprob not23:00
soluxioneHemm.... Sorry i have missed the link for the italian chat! Can we get me? Thank's!23:00
nightrid3r!it | soluxione23:00
ubottusoluxione: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:00
abstraktsoluxione, #ubuntu-it ?23:00
spaceBARbarianhow can i fix this: ubuntu doesnt push my laptop's internal fans to high speed when the temperatures are high, they are always at the slow setting23:00
erUSULPickleMan: there are many23:00
soluxioneThank's....:!23:01
erUSUL!wifi | PickleMan23:01
ubottuPickleMan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:01
PickleManreally?23:01
PickleManthanks23:01
Fire^foxi have a question... i need to know what drivers i am using for my wireless usb card23:01
PickleManmeh loves ubuntu23:01
abstraktFire^fox, lsmod ?23:01
Grenyaris1spaceBARbarian: It sounds like you need to find some Linux tools for the Motherboard...there are some for Asus boards...but not sure about others...and completely unsure about laptops...but it would be worth a search...23:01
erUSULFire^fox: lshw -C Network23:01
erUSULFire^fox: look the details for your usb wifi23:01
Matsonlooks like I'm going with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.2/ubuntu-8.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent23:02
Matsonthanks all for your help23:02
epaphushey guys, iam trying to play a .wmv file.. but it says its encrypted and decryption isnt supported.. any suggestions?23:02
spaceBARbarianGrenyaris1: i haven an intel 915M motherboard, do i just search for tools for that ?23:02
Grenyaris1epaphus: with what are you trying to play the wmv file?23:03
Fire^foxok i listed it but now i need the driver name to mount on kismet23:03
Grenyaris1spaceBARbarian: Yes, that would be where to start...I think there are also generic tools for generic functions, like fan speeds, etc...23:03
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AngelOfMercyhello23:04
spaceBARbarianGrenyaris1: yeah i have a dell laptop, i was hoping there was some tool to help me interact with the dell bios23:04
AngelOfMercycan someone assist me please23:04
erUSULFire^fox: there is a line in lshw output that reads configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2500pci ip=10.0.0.2 latency=32 module=rt2500pci multicast=yes wireless=IE23:04
erUSULFire^fox: that tells you the driver is rt2500pci23:04
newusersebsebseb and anyone else, could the system have misdetected my keyboard and that is why ctrl-alt-backspace is not working to kill x23:04
erUSULFire^fox: that's my case23:04
PhotoJim!ask > AngelOfMercy23:05
ubottuAngelOfMercy, please see my private message23:05
PhotoJim!ask23:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:05
the10nitrois it possible to set up a link (hard or soft) so that file1 is "cat file2 file2"?23:05
sebsebsebnewuser: I think that feature may have even been removed in 9.04, but yeah your on 8.0423:05
epaphusGrenyaris1,   Movie Player23:06
AngelOfMercyi have an M-Audio Revolution 5.1 and i don`t know how to configure23:06
AngelOfMercyi`m a novice in linux23:06
AngelOfMercybut i figured out how to install it23:06
AngelOfMercythe problem is that i don`t know how to made this m-audio work to hear surround when i play movies23:07
oCean_the10nitro: I don't understand your question. A link is just (what in windows is called) a shortcut23:07
sebsebsebAngelOfMercy: hummmmmm  maybe it won't work with Linux, because no  suppourt, because of the manufacture, or you got to  configure it big time23:07
AngelOfMercyi have Ubuntu installed23:08
sebsebseb!sound |  AngelOfMercy23:08
ubottuAngelOfMercy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:08
sebsebsebAngelOfMercy: what the bot gave might be useful, but  probably not as such23:08
newuseri count 86 actual keys, with a numbers under jkl etc.  how to tell what keyboard this is?23:08
norenis there any hardware support channel anyone23:08
noren!hardware23:08
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection23:08
RedMushroomanyone know why i would be getting an error "current drive is no longer valid" from DOS when trying to access a:\?23:09
LjLRedMushroom: eh? did you check the name of this channel? :o23:09
RedMushroomyeah23:09
RedMushroomit's a:\23:09
epaphusguys.. how can I view .wmv file on ubuntu?23:09
MenZa!restricted | epaphus23:09
ubottuepaphus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:09
LjL!offtopic | RedMushroom23:09
ubottuRedMushroom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!23:09
Knight```Can someone tell me how can I get Call of Duty 2 + Wine working.23:10
Knight```it seems to freeze at the logo.23:10
erUSUL!appdb | Knight```23:11
ubottuKnight```: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help23:11
newuserspecs page from sony says 86 qwerty keyboard layout (but hwinfo says Generic 105-key (Intl)?  How to set right one?23:11
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Grenyaris1epaphus: Try installing Xine...and then install the Codecs...they work on my machine just fine...23:11
jtsmeedOnly one of four Phenom cores is working.  Problem narrowed down to Logitech bluetooth receiver.  Suggestions?23:12
Fire^foxon: broadcast=yes ip=192.168.1.4 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 823:12
ivan_hello23:12
Fire^foxis this the drive ?23:12
the10nitrooCean_: there are 2 types of links in *nix.  symbolic/sym/soft and hard.  In Windows < Vista symlinks exist as "junction points", with the exception that junction points can only link folders, not files.  In Vista symbolic links exist to make *nix programs easier to port.23:12
ivan_i need help23:12
Grenyaris1Anyone know the inner workings of dhclient and DHCP?23:12
erUSULFire^fox: the driver is the one that reads driver=whatever or module=whatever23:12
ivan_i use Ubuntu, but i need Edubuntu23:13
Sinkro63I removed evolution and then it asked if some other stuff should be removed to and I answered Yes. (that  was stupid). Now I dont have any panel at the top. How do I get it back?23:13
skinofstars1ivan_: then get the meta-package from synaptic23:13
abstraktivan_, sooo... install the stuff that Edubuntu comes with?23:13
sebsebsebivan_: do you really?  you can install  most of the edubuntu apps into  standard Ubuntu23:13
abstraktahh, meta package23:13
Blueeeeis ubuntu free? "The latest release of Ubuntu brings the best open source technologies together on one platform, with the benefit of free updates for 18 months."23:13
erUSULSinkro63: install the package ubuntu-desktop23:13
Fire^foxnotheing saying such23:13
abstraktivan_, yeah the diff ubuntu's are just prepackaged, you can still setup ubuntu however you want23:13
newuserhi all, not sure 8.04 detected my keyboard right since this is 86 key laptop keyboard and 8.04 has it listed as 105 generic23:13
sebsebsebBlueeee: free as in price and freedom23:13
sebsebseb!freedom23:13
Sinkro63thanx23:13
ubottufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing23:13
PhotoJimBlueeee: Yes, free.  The only price is for professional support, if you want it.23:13
abstraktBlueeee, yes it's free23:14
AngelOfMercyis someone here who can help me configure my sound card named M-Audio Revolution 5.1 on Ubuntu?23:14
skinofstars1freedom!!!!23:14
ivan_ok byt i need aplications of edubuntu23:14
Blueeeety23:14
abstraktivan_, so install them23:14
PhotoJimAngelOfMercy: don't forget to mention it's specifically 5.1 audio you're having trouble with, that normal audio works.23:14
abstraktivan_, we just told you what to do...23:14
ivan_i dont know how23:14
sebsebsebivan_: Edubuntu is a add on CD I think now, for the Ubuntu Desktop CD23:14
abstraktivan_, ahh23:14
Grenyaris1spaceBARbarian: I don't know how much help this is, but... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed23:14
sebsebsebivan_: go here http://www.edubuntu.org23:15
abstraktwhat's the command to search with apt?23:15
AngelOfMercythe normal audio works, the problem is that i don`t hear movies 5.123:15
abstraktapt-get find? apt-get list? apt-get search?23:15
sebsebsebivan_: make sure to md5sum any CD before burning also23:15
sebsebseb!md5sum23:15
ubottuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more23:15
AngelOfMercyi hear only 2 channels23:15
erUSULabstrakt: aptitude search «string»23:15
abstrakterUSUL, thx23:15
newuserbig problem is ctrl-alt-backspace not working23:15
skinofstars1ivan_: system>administration>synaptic package manager>filter by sections>meta package> tick>apply23:15
tech_helphi, if the hosts.deny file is changed, does sshd need to be bounced in order for the change to take effect?23:16
ynkwould you guys vouch for Frostwire or do you use another program for downloading and such?23:16
ivan_sebsebseb: I donwloaded Edubuntu 8.10 i38623:16
sebsebsebynk: Frostwire for small  files, torrents for big files23:16
sebsebseb!torrents23:17
ubottuIntrepid can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).23:17
ivan_and burn to CD23:17
oCean_newuser: what version is your installation?23:17
sebsebsebivan_: maybe Edubuntu 8.04 is a bit better since long term suppourt23:17
AngelOfMercyis someone here who can help me with my issue ?23:18
skinofstars1oCean_: that sounds like jaunty23:18
soluxione_ciao bastardo23:18
oCean_skinofstars1: yes it might be.23:18
Sinkro63erUSUL: Thank you very much for Your help.23:18
newuser oCean_ 8.04 so ctrl-alt-backspace killing x should still be default23:18
sebsebsebivan_: Ktorrent is a great torrents app23:18
newuseralso, I use xev and the keys all work23:19
soluxione_link for italian chat pleas?23:19
sebsebsebynk: Ktorrent is a great torrents app23:19
oCean_!it > soluxione_23:19
ubottusoluxione_, please see my private message23:19
PhotoJimAngelOfMercy: looks like not now... so try again later.  the people who are actively helping here constantly change.23:19
Matsonif I take the 700mb iso and burn it to a dvd instead of a cd - will it still work?23:19
abstraktwhat's the command to update repos again?23:19
abstraktapt-get update? aptitude update?23:20
oCean_newuser: ah, ok. Adding details like that always helps us to understand better.23:20
PhotoJimabstrakt: either works.  aptitude is smarter.  I use aptitude in place of apt-get.23:20
AngelOfMercyok PhotoJim23:20
Matsonabstrakt: dist-upgrade23:20
PhotoJimabstrakt: eventually I suspect "aptitude" will be official.23:20
ynksebsebseb, Ktorrents? i'm actually using Transmission the one that came with this distro.23:20
abstraktMatson, ? dist upgrade?23:20
abstraktMatson, maybe you misunderstood my question23:20
Matsonabstrakt: likely23:21
sebsebsebynk: yeah well, as long as it's the KDE4 version of Ktorrent,  which it will be if your on 8.10.   Ktorrent is awsome.  saying that the KDE3 version was pretty good to23:21
jgreenanyone know of a program like servicecapture for ubuntu?23:21
sebsebsebynk: Tranmission is ok, but Ktorrent much better23:21
Waldirhi, doesn anyone know how to install gimpshop? I tried the deb package but it didnt seem to do anything..23:21
jgreenI am looking to capture amf data23:21
Waldir*does23:21
Checkmate91I am running Ubuntu 8.04 and have an HP f380 printer using the f300 driver.  Problem: My printer is only printing green and yellow...no red.  Is this a driver issue or a print cartridge issue?23:21
ynksebsebseb, how so?23:21
sebsebsebynk: try for yourself, it looks much nicer for a start though23:22
ynksebsebseb, ok then. i guess i'll give it a try. =) thanks buddy.23:22
abstraktCheckmate91, well, does the printer print red on windows/mac?23:22
abstraktCheckmate91, that'll tell you the answer23:22
PhotoJimCheckmate91: it could be either.  it's not uncommon for colour cartridges to clog up or run out of ink.23:22
oCean_newuser: maybe you've seen this already? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49587723:22
abstraktCheckmate91, yeah you sure the red isn't just out?23:22
newuseroCean_ sony vaio pcg-fx120 running ubuntu 8.04 which is working fine except ctrl-alt-backspace not working23:22
Checkmate91abstrakt, true but then I have to boot into windows and install the driver...put an option23:22
abstraktCheckmate91, ...23:23
abstraktomg, you poor thing23:23
Checkmate91i know :)23:23
sebsebsebWaldir: yeah you can't just install it23:23
PhotoJimCheckmate91: your only way to know for sure then is to change your red ink cartridge and see if that cures it.23:23
sebsebsebWaldir: there's an issue with the  Deb for Ubuntu and things,  that's what it was I belive yeah23:23
Checkmate91It's all in one cartridge23:23
Waldirsebsebseb: so what do I do?23:23
abstraktPhotoJim, uh, not really, you could print on windows like i just suggested23:23
abstraktand then if it prints red you know for sure23:23
newuseroCean_ yeah I did, but last message indicates the problem was never fixed23:23
PhotoJimabstrakt: he rejected that.  so changing the cartridge is the only option left.23:23
abstraktomg23:24
PhotoJimCheckmate91: then you have to change the whole cartridge... if trying it with Windows or OS X is not an option.23:24
sebsebsebWaldir: a few weeks or so ago,  a woman  really wanted Gimpshop, so some guy helped her  get it working,  loads of command stuff etc23:24
Checkmate91it's not that I rejected it...just wanted a reason to come on here and chat :-)23:24
abstraktPhotoJim, Checkmate91, because it's so much easier to go to best buy and spend $40 than it is to boot into windows23:24
Checkmate91blah blah so sarchastic23:24
Checkmate91thanks23:24
PhotoJimCheckmate91: I have nothing to fix at the moment.  Just come in here and chat then. :)23:24
Waldirsebsebseb: do you think people at #gimp will be annoyed if I ask this there? :P23:24
sebsebsebWaldir: maybe23:25
Waldirsebsebseb: :(23:25
jtajiCheckmate91: do you have hplip-gui package installed? you would have HPLIP Toolbox in your Prefs23:25
Checkmate91oh and I have to patch the windows machine because of the big and scary confliker worm :023:25
sebsebsebWaldir: why not just use Gimp?  oh sure it's GUI is a bit well,  you got to get used to it, but otherwise it will be a good app23:25
Checkmate91jtaji, yes23:25
jtajiCheckmate91: does it report your ink levels?23:25
Checkmate91jtaji, HPLIP test page and CUPS test page yeild same results23:25
sebsebsebWaldir: there are other graphics programs for Linux as well, that are good23:25
Checkmate91jtaji, it does but as a whole..  COLOR = 35% Remaining23:26
Waldirsebsebseb: really? I didn't know about that23:26
jtajiCheckmate91: wow strange... never saw one like that23:26
Waldirsebsebseb: which do you recommend?23:26
sebsebsebWaldir: yeah  look in synaptic,  I don't do graphics23:26
rgs_does anybody know if there are bug filed on launchpad for eye of gnome on intrepid?23:26
sebsebsebWaldir: ,but I know there are other good ones23:26
Checkmate91well thanks for the suggestions people23:26
Checkmate91I'll figure it out23:26
abstraktWaldir, you can do most all the same things in GIMP that you can do in Photoshop, it's just that it takes longer in the GIMP23:26
rgs_it hangs pretty often23:26
jtajiCheckmate91: taking out the cartridge and rocking it around might get you some more ink out of it, if it's an out of ink problem23:26
abstraktWaldir, e.g. in Photoshop you can just add a "dropshadow" layer effect... in the GIMP you have to do all the steps manually... though you can surely write your own plugin to dropshadow things for you, and i'm pretty sure there's gotta be at least a dropshadowing plugin for GIMP... the point is that you can do all the same stuff23:27
abstraktWaldir, though i have yet to find any good collection of plugins that do the same stuff as PS23:27
sebsebsebWaldir: you  look through Synaptic  and find the graphics apps and install yeah.   however  to  help you get into the right direction check out these sites.  http://www.osalt.com  http://www.linuxeq.com23:27
Waldirabstrakt: still, my main problem is the multiple windows :)23:28
abstraktWaldir, ... that's a problem... why?23:28
sebsebsebWaldir: also apparnatlly Photoshop CS2 works pretty well under the latest Wine.    http://www.winehq.org and add the Ubuntu repo then always get latest Wine23:28
abstraktWaldir, that doesn't sound like a problem, that sounds like you being stubborn23:28
cerriehey all.. anyone know of a gnome compatible instant messenger with webcam??23:28
dmlb2000Anyway to tell apt to copy files from file:// repositories instead of symlinking them?23:28
sebsebsebcerrie: which network?23:28
cerrieyahoo manly23:29
abstraktcerrie, http://www.pidgin.im is basically the best IM client, dunno if it supports web cams though23:29
cerrienah it doesent :O(23:29
sebsebsebabstrakt: no web cam suppourt yet23:29
Waldirabstrakt: if that's it, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one ;)23:29
sebsebsebcerrie: for MSN,  there's  AMSN that does web cam23:29
sebsebsebcerrie: Yahoo not sure23:29
abstraktWaldir, ... er... if what's what?23:29
ynkWaldir, you're not the only one. i'm still trying to get used to the multiple windows myself. LoL23:29
Waldirsebsebseb: I already tried PS under wine but many tiny fonts were unreadable for some reason23:30
RedMushroomcan someone PLEASE just tell me how to make a startup floppy that will allow me to start the install from the cd rom?23:30
cerrieyeah been looking for a while, nothin for gnome.23:30
cerrie:(23:30
ynkWaldir, it just takes time to get used to new styles of doing things.23:30
RedMushroomand not just say "use smartboot" cause it DOES NOT WORK23:30
RedMushroom:(23:30
sebsebsebcerrie:  if you have enough RAM,  how much you got?   and  a  WindowsCD/ISO  you can  install  Windows in  Virutalbox and do Yahoo Messenger in there23:30
PhotoJimYahoo at one point had its own proprietary Linux client in .deb packages.  Is it no longer available?  If it is, it might be the best option if you need webcam support.23:30
Waldirabstrakt: if it is that I'm being stubborn :)23:30
abstraktthe only thing i can conclude if you can't handle the "multiple windows" is that you're mildly retarded23:30
ynktook me 3 days just to install my graphics card driver properly.23:30
sebsebsebWaldir: yeah you got to get the fonts in from Windows, and put in the wine fonts folder23:30
Waldirynk: i'd rather get gimpshop working :|23:30
sebsebsebWaldir: or get from some where else23:30
drbones420redmushrooom does your bios boot to hard drive first, if so you should go into bios and make sure that the CDROM you've got the startup cd in runs before your Harddrive23:31
abstraktPS has multiple "windows" they just take the form of toolbars...23:31
PhotoJimRedMushroom: there is one available on the net for free.  I googled for it a couple of years ago and found it.  It's meant for really old systems that can't boot off CD-ROM drives.23:31
Waldirsebsebseb: oh so *that* was the problem23:31
abstraktit's just a freaking difference of a window manager23:31
RedMushroomit's not my bios23:31
ynkWaldir, what is the difference between gimpshop and GIMP? nvm.. i'll google it.23:31
RedMushroomi need a startup floppy diskette23:31
RedMushroomthat has cd-rom drivers on it23:31
cerriethanks, tryed the linux yahoo a while back, no cam support tho :O( cant win lol23:31
RedMushroomthat will let me tell the computer to install off the cd-rom23:31
RedMushroomthat's it23:31
abstraktit'd be like saying that you can use Windows Explorer but not The Finder because the finder has circular colored buttons and Explorer has square gray buttons23:31
Waldirynk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP#Interface_and_usability23:31
PhotoJimRedMushroom: There is one out there.  Give me a minute and I'll see if I can find it.23:32
RedMushroomi would really appreciate it if you could find it23:32
juliensalut tlm23:32
abstraktthere are plenty of other things that in my mind easily qualify as reasons that The GIMP is harder for someone who's used to photoshop but the window manager is NOT one of them23:33
julienqui peut me conseiller un tutu pour installer vmware sur ubuntu merci bcp23:33
PhotoJimRedMushroom: it's at http://www.bootdisk.com ... would have to spend some time to find it.  but that's where I got it.23:33
abstraktjulien, #ubuntu-fr23:33
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abstraktjulien, je'n parles pas francais23:33
julienabstraki>oki merci23:34
gausiehi everyone. i used usermod and forgot to add -a, removing myself from the sudoers group. im using linux mint, and was never prompted to set a root password. however, i'm being asked for one when i try to log in in recovery mode as per google search. how can i gain access?23:34
eqisowIs it possible to setup LVM encryption on a drive volume that already has data on it?23:34
epaphushey guys... I installed the codecs, and gxine.. to try to play .wmv movies.. but it says its encrypted and descryption isnt supported.. gxine does play it but it gets the image fuzzy23:34
epaphusany suggestions?23:34
eqisowgausie: best bet it to use a liveCD and chroot in23:34
eqisowephaphus: Does the file have DRM?23:35
ynkWaldir, while googling GIMPshop, I found http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=1223:35
epaphuseqisow, where?23:35
ynkWaldir, it's called Pixel and looks much more similar to Photoshop.23:35
gausieeqisow: thanks - i expected it would require a livecd im already downloading it. will check the manual for chroot and hopefully should work! thanks for the speedy response23:36
Waldirynk: will try it :)23:36
eqisowepaphus: where is the file from? wmv with 'digital rights management' embedded will not play in Linux23:36
oCean_gausie: When in bootloader, there is an option to add/modify kernelarguments. You can add "init=/bin/sh", which should take you straight into a shell23:36
drbones420i'm fairly new at ubuntu 8.10, and i'm trying to get all my hardware working similar to within windows xp pro. running a dual boot system, i've got ati drivers downloaded, how do I run it in terminal so that i'm super user (new at terminal)23:36
eqisowepaphus see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management23:37
epaphuseqisow, the file has a .wmv extension... and the readme says it will play with any player that supports .FLA23:37
epaphus.FLV23:37
epaphussorry23:37
abstraktis PHP PDO available through apt?23:37
fulldI would like to create a wireless network and, have this persist after restarts, and I'd like to do this from the command line. it is possible?23:37
ratdeimoscan anybody recommend the best pci-e wireless card out-of-the-box for ubuntu wep hacking?23:37
eqisowepaphus: flv in a wmv contaner, pehaps? odd... you could try VLC, though23:37
Waldirsebsebseb: those sites are wonderful resources, I'll bookmark them ^^23:37
epaphuseqisow, it also says "New Movies Arecopywrited please install and update the DRM identifier to View File."23:38
epaphusthe readme23:38
sebsebsebWaldir: indeed they are, but just a reminder,  you get most stuff from synaptic or using the commands instead.  and  then  only get debs and tar.gz's and such from trusted sources23:39
eqisowepaphus: it won't play in Linux, then. See the wiki article I linked a moment ago. The company will likely refund you the purchase price if you explain, or you can play it in windows23:39
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Waldirer btw I'm using a portuguese keyboard, and my dead keys are requiring me to type 4 times if i want a double symbol, for example ^^ (it should work by pressing the key 2 times only)23:39
sebsebsebWaldir: or you could get an edited version of something, that contains something bad23:39
epaphuseqisow, thanks.23:39
phaer abstrakt, aptitude search php|grep php shows nothing, but you can always look on packages.ubuntu.com or search for another repo or package23:39
gausieoCean_: ok i'll give that a go thanks23:39
Waldirsebsebseb: I'll keep that in mind :)23:39
abstraktphaer, yeah i did a search for PDO already23:40
arthHi everyone23:40
jmacfuzzyare there any remedies for slow NTFS-3G performance?23:41
almark1Hello, I can not get my themes back like they used to be, something has erased my original themes, I am using hardy 64studio, does anyone know how to get this working with apt-get install?23:41
phaerabstrakt: what is the problem, then? http://www.google.at/search?q=pdo+ubuntu+install seems to know a lot about it.23:42
TimReichhartcan anybody point me the right direction for help on setting up openvpn/kvpnc?23:42
soluxione_sorry, link for italian chat?23:43
phaeralmark1:  have you tried to aptitude reinstall gnome-themes23:43
Jordan_UTimReichhart, Client or server?23:43
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Jordan_Ualmark1, Are you sure that it was 64Studio and not Ubuntu Studio ?23:43
TimReichhartits for client there jordan_u23:44
soluxione_sorry, link for italian chat?23:44
oCean_!it > soluxione_23:45
ubottusoluxione_, please see my private message23:45
anders_can anyone recommend a simple to use wikisystem for 3-5 users?23:45
Jordan_UTimReichhart,  There is an openvpn plugin for network-manager23:45
Waldirhow do I change "open with" shortcuts for a given file type?23:45
TimReichharthow would I know there jordan?23:45
abstrakthahahahahaha! Microsoft is offering $250k for information that leads to the catching the conflicker creator... wtf that's a freakin joke23:46
abstraktgiven how much damage it could do or could have done23:46
abstraktmaybe if they offered $250 million23:46
oCean_abstrakt: please stay on topic23:46
abstraktthat might actually be proportionate to what they should actually be paying/the actual damage23:46
Jordan_UTimReichhart, Can you rephrase your question please, I don't understand.23:46
phaer!ot23:46
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!23:46
skinofstars1Waldir: system>prefernces>prefered applications23:46
TimReichharthow would I know if there is a plugin for network manager because I didnt understand your question jordan23:47
Waldirskinofstars1: I've been there before but it seems to only allow a limited amount of configuration, for some predefined file types23:47
Jordan_UTimReichhart, There is one, You can install it by installing the "network-manager-openvpn" package23:48
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Waldirso does anyone know how to configure the open with associations for various file types? I'd be happy with a link and a RTFM :D23:50
ghindoIs there any way to check what sort of software (PHP, Python, etc.) a remote server is running?23:51
Smanettonelink italian?23:51
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abstraktphaer, Getting PDO to work with Dapper Drake 6.0623:51
Waldirargh these joins and leaves are so annoying! is there a way to hide them in pidgin? or at least unbold them :|23:52
abstraktphaer, far cry from 8.0423:52
abstraktWaldir, yes there is... it's a plugin23:52
abstraktWaldir, go get the plugin packs23:52
almark1Its 64studio yes its not UbuntuStudio23:52
Smanettonelink italian?23:52
mrwesWaldir: the plugin -- hide join/parts23:52
abstraktSmanettone, #ubuntu-it23:52
Madpilotubottu, it23:52
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)23:52
almark1you might have not heard of 64studio, its great though/23:52
oCean_Waldir: right-click on the item you want to choose a program for, go to properties, then Open With tab. You can also add your own (custom) command. I think that association should work for other files of that type23:52
almark1I will uninstall the gnome-themes and the gdm themes thanks that might work23:53
almark1would the gdm-themes be called that on the DVD install disk?23:53
oCean_Smanettone: why do you ask over and over again?23:54
phaerabstrakt: oh sorry, i can not help you then. i am anything but a php guy ;)23:54
Waldirabstrakt, mrwes, thanks, I'll get the plugin :D23:54
WaldiroCean_: how can I remove a custom app that I previously added?23:55
oCean_Waldir: I think by deselecting it? - by selecting an other application?23:55
almark1Is there a way to restart gdm without rebooting?23:55
victor__im not sure if i like ubuntu gnome, its my first time on linux (i came from 9x. milenium, xp and vista) but i've finished by hating it so i wanna start with linux but i don't know whitch distro take someone can help me?23:55
WaldiroCean_: that just adds more to the list :(23:56
TheFunkbombAnyone having issues with cgmail not working?23:56
vigoIs Ekiga free PC-PC or can it call cell phones/land lines also, if so, is there a charge for this service?23:56
oCean_almark1: /etc/init.d/gdm restart should do that trick23:56
mrwesWaldir: you have the plugin already  Tools | Plugins23:57
gausieoCean_: I'm having some trouble with your advice. i ammended init=/bin/sh but this just makes the screen black, with a blinking underscore23:57
abstraktomg, i don't have make?!23:57
almark1oCean: thanks, when I do that while in term outside of X windows, It won't restart23:58
abstraktlol... is there a meta package that installs the basics for compiling? e.g. gcc make autoconf etc?23:58
Waldirmrwes: lol, I didnt see that in time, now I installed more stuff, but I'll explore them23:58
oCean_Waldir: I don't get it. For each filetype, when you go to properties, there is a radio-button list on the openwith tab right?23:58
TheFunkbombNo?  No one having an issue with cgmail?23:58
vigovictor__: That is really a very personal choice, Ubuntu is one of the first user friendly Linux distros to come out, it is stable and supported, but of course, it is a choice, albeit a free choice.23:58
abstraktvigo, don't confuse Ubuntu with GNOME23:58
WaldiroCean_: I don't see radio buttons :/23:58
mrwes!build-essentials23:59
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)23:59
oCean_gausie: that is not default behaviour. It should just boot (similar to rescue mode) but drop you into a shell23:59
almark1ok it works now I.. think23:59
almark1thanks all23:59
abstraktvigo, and don't confuse Ubuntu with KDE either... just cuz you don't like GNOME doesn't mean you won't like Ubuntu... there are *lots* of window managers to choose from and you can configure most of them to look and work almost *any* way you want23:59
oCean_Waldir: using gnome?23:59
abstraktvigo, you can setup your linux box to look and work like a mac, or like windows, or like something entirely different23:59
abstraktmrwes, thanks23:59
oCean_Waldir: using nautilus?23:59

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