[00:00] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: ok good luck!
[00:01] <disregardthat> thx ;)
[00:02] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: np
[00:06] <pronub> how i shot ubuntu
[00:06] <akraft> I have a brand-new install, and I don't seem to be getting usb support. Is this a common problem, and how can I fix it?
[00:06] <pronub> akraft: im not sure, im pretty new myself
[00:06] <pronub> have you checked the man pageS?
[00:07] <pronub> also, i was gonna instal ubuntu to protect myself from the conficker worm, is this a good idea?
[00:07] <iceroot> akraft: usb enabled in bios? onboard usb?
[00:07] <Ropechoborra> !usb | akraft
[00:07] <iceroot> pronub: its always a good idea to install linux
[00:07] <Ropechoborra> Uhmm i guess that was not what you wanted :$ Sorry
[00:07] <iceroot> pronub: there are no viruses for linux
[00:07] <amgarchIn9> pronub: too late it alreadyy first of april
[00:07] <akraft> iceroot, it's onboard, I guess it could be disabled in bios somehow
[00:07] <iceroot> akraft: then look there
[00:08] <Flannel> akraft: What do you mean by USB support?
[00:08] <bruce89> sebsebseb: WORKSFORME
[00:08] <pronub> amgarchIn9: not in my country brother
[00:08] <akraft> flannel: I mean usb devices don't work, and lsusb doesn't give me any output
[00:08] <PC16-Sala3-381> hola
[00:08] <pronub> so if i download linux i can watch all the free porn i want
[00:08] <Ropechoborra> !es PC16-Sala3-381
[00:08] <akraft> that's the extent of my knowledge to diagnose the problem
[00:08] <pronub> and no viruses rite
[00:09] <Flannel> pronub: Is there a support question we can help you with today?
[00:09] <pronub> Flannel: tryin to figure out if linux is the rite choice for me
[00:09] <zhurai> pronub: there are viruses, just not many, as most people are on windows, so that's what is mostly hit with virii
[00:09] <pronub> yea im glad i dont have windows
[00:09] <pronub> i am pretty good with the BSD environment, although i do run mac
[00:10] <zhurai> especially there is an April 1st virus going around I hear
[00:10] <pronub> weird
[00:10] <disregardthat> Oooh!
[00:10] <disregardthat> Thanks for reminding me.
[00:10] <zhurai> ?
[00:10] <pronub> anyways, i am getting pretty darn good at modding my os x
[00:10] <disregardthat> I want to watch the Windows users suffer.
[00:10] <Flannel> pronub: Please stay on topic.  This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[00:10] <disregardthat> :P
[00:10] <pronub> Flannel: i am being on topic
[00:10]  * otm is burning BT3 to get revenge on #remote-exploit
[00:10] <disregardthat> Right, Ubuntu support.
[00:10] <zhurai> disregardthat: LOL, true
[00:11] <disregardthat> Hald isn't recognizing my mouse or keyboard.
[00:11] <pronub> so back to it
[00:11] <pronub> how 'mod-able' is ubuntu
[00:11] <Chousuke> pronub: Linux distros are not immune to malware, but getting hit by one is much less likely than on Windows.
[00:11] <Chousuke> pronub: very. :)
[00:11] <pronub> more so than debian?
[00:11] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in linux
[00:11] <akraft> well, I'm going to doublecheck to see if my onboard USB is disabled in bios. I might be back. Thanks.
[00:11] <zhurai> disregardthat: hopefully if it pwns more computers in windows, people'll move to linux >_>;?
[00:11] <pronub> i have run debian and gentoo
[00:11] <disregardthat> zhurai: Not a chance.
[00:11] <pronub> tryin to find somethign easy for kids you know
 more so than debian? <-- ....ubuntu is based on debian
[00:11] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:12] <pronub> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:12] <zhurai> disregardthat: :(
[00:12] <Flannel> pronub: Please stop using the enter key as punctuation.  Thanks.
[00:12] <pronub> Flannel: can you chill out sir
[00:12] <pronub> its the internet
[00:12] <pronub> the bandwith from my enter stroeks surely does not effect you
[00:12] <pronub> affect*
[00:12] <zhurai> 0.2s lag o:
[00:12] <Rabbitbunny> pronub: We're serious about providing the best support possible. You don't have to be here.
[00:12] <Joe_Shmoe|> Have any of you heard about this Conficker virus?
[00:13] <Flannel> Joe_Shmoe|: Try #ubuntu-offtopic, this isn't the place.
[00:13] <pronub> Rabbitbunny: thank you for the warm welcome.
[00:13] <Joe_Shmoe|> oh, I see.
[00:13] <disregardthat> joetheodd: It's why Im looking forward to tomorrow.
[00:13] <disregardthat> Whoops, wrong joe.
[00:13] <pronub> im just trying to ask questions of people that are 'at the source' who know the OS inside and out
[00:13] <zhurai> >.>
[00:13] <pronub> if this isnt the place then ill try to go elseware
[00:13] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:13] <mrsteveman1> anyone know what updates the /vmlinuz and /initrd.img symlinks when a kernel is upgraded? is it the package post-install scripts, or is it another script?
[00:14] <disregardthat> So, any advice about my mouse and keyboard?
[00:14] <disregardthat> I kind of need those...
[00:14] <pronub> use the power of the force my friend :D
[00:14] <disregardthat> Well... Okay!
[00:14]  * disregardthat forces Hald to see the mouse
[00:14] <zhurai> what problem?
[00:15] <disregardthat> Aww, it doesn't like the Force.
[00:15] <disregardthat> zhurai: Same as usual.
[00:15] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, What is the problem with the mouse and keyboard?
[00:15] <disregardthat> My X doesn't recognize the mouse or keyboard.
[00:15] <pronub> ahhhhhhhhh my computer is changing colors now
[00:15] <The-Mentor> are they usb?
[00:15] <disregardthat> It's probably Hald instead, given Intrepid.
[00:15] <pronub> how do i fix this
[00:15] <disregardthat> No, integrated, I'm on an E1505.
[00:15] <space_cadet> my mouse is usb and ubuntu sees it fine.
[00:16] <pronub> wtf is this conficker virus
[00:16] <disregardthat> pronYou'll see tomorrow.
[00:16] <space_cadet> Pronub something windows specific
[00:16] <disregardthat> ProNoob:  You'll see tomorrow.
[00:16] <akraft> so guess how dumb I am
[00:16] <Rabbitbunny> pronub: Stay on topic.
[00:16] <pronub> who is on my computer
[00:16] <punter> i bought a iogear digital scribe aka digital pen and i want to get it work in ubuntu any idea of how to get it to work
[00:16] <pronub> THIS IS ON TOPIC SOMEONE HACKED MY UBUNTU
[00:16] <Rabbitbunny> Flannel: Thank You.
[00:16] <space_cadet> pronub, it's actually over emphasized, most systems are patched
[00:17] <disregardthat> A bit harsh, don't you think?
[00:17] <ProNoob> LoL
[00:17] <disregardthat> Anyways...
[00:17] <disregardthat> The keyboard and mouse.
[00:17] <ProNoob> how did his ubuntu get haxxed ?
[00:17] <ProNoob> there be any vulns ?
[00:17] <disregardthat> No idea what they keys are, but the mouse is a SynPS2.
[00:18] <Rabbitbunny> Flannel: Ban Evasion, see ProNoob.
[00:18] <Flannel> Rabbitbunny: Not quite.
[00:18] <hotte-> huhu guys ;) what is the standard filepath for java?
[00:18] <akraft> So the usb support was totally disabled in bios because I am developmentally challenged.
[00:18] <ProNoob> Rabbitbunny, check my history of idling...
[00:18] <ProNoob> Rabbitbunny, won't match with that dudes
[00:18] <hotte-> i dont know where i have to install the .bin file
[00:18] <Ropechoborra> Aren't generic? Then try compiling drivers
[00:18] <akraft> it is now fixxored, thanks guys
[00:18]  * otm still doesn't know how to do red text and is nearly tearful
[00:18] <Flannel> ProNoob, Rabbitbunny: it's perfectly fine to just drop it.
[00:18] <Rabbitbunny> punter: There's a guide on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6782167 for most of the operation.
[00:19] <Rabbitbunny> ProNoob: Ah, A hearty apology my fine resident.
[00:19]  * Rabbitbunny bows before ProNoob 
[00:19] <WinterWeaver> how can I do "chmod a-x -R *"    .... BUT excluding the -x on directories?
[00:19] <Flannel> WinterWeaver: You might be looking for X instead of x.  Depending on what you've already done, etc.
[00:20] <disregardthat> WinterWeaver: Read the man pages?
[00:20] <WinterWeaver> ok, will do... I thought it would be more complicated than that. thx
[00:21] <The-Mentor> akraft: your cracking me man
[00:21] <bluenzo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpunRcR3_Sk sexy ;x
[00:21] <bluenzo> why cant subaru donate a car to me :(
[00:21] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/key problems?
[00:21] <bluenzo> OOH DARNIT wrong chan sorry
[00:21] <disregardthat> blue__: Fail.
[00:21] <disregardthat> Speaking of which...
[00:22] <punter> rabbitbunny:that tutorial is for tablet pcs mine is regular pc
[00:22] <space_cadet> Guys, could you check this over and tell me how it looks?   http://pastebin.com/m6bded8bd
[00:22] <disregardthat> bluenzo: Fail.
[00:23] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?
[00:24] <disregardthat> Anyone?
[00:24] <space_cadet> wow everyone suddenly watch the video?
[00:24] <space_cadet> lol
[00:25] <akraft> has anyone here any experience getting printers to work?
[00:26] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me with my mouse/keyboard problems?
[00:26] <seb-> how turn off "Do you really mean that?" popups when you kill xterms?
[00:26] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: did you try ath5k?
[00:26] <RichW> !ask | disregardthat
[00:26] <seb-> akraft, disregardthat: you won't get any help if you don't ask a freaking question
[00:26] <mint3> Please help
[00:26] <akraft> seb: sorry, sorry.
[00:27] <disregardthat> RichW, seb-: k
[00:27] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays.
[00:27] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70), runs ok
[00:28] <akraft> I have an epson stylus cx8400 and gutenprint recognizes it and thinks everything's fine, but when I try to print, it just spits out blank paper till it runs out. Any help?
[00:28] <Nithrin> How do I stealth my ports?
[00:28] <_Brun0_> what's a good value for upload_tmp_dir on ubuntu?
[00:29] <space_cadet> amgarchIn9, yes we did try the ath5k, didn't work
[00:29] <space_cadet> an HP machine
[00:29] <kavity> Anyone know how I can approach this error while trying to compile uvcvideo driver: File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4.
[00:29] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:29] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:29] <RichW> disregardthat, You should be specific about hardware, ps2? usb?
[00:29] <kavity> I get a similar error with gspca too.
[00:29] <disregardthat> I think its PS2.
[00:29] <disregardthat> *it's
[00:30] <mshanks> I've had this problem before with this desktop - there was a way round it by changing some parameters on command line when installing, and in grub for when booting. but i can't remember what they are :/
[00:30] <RichW> disregardthat, you can check with lsusb
[00:30] <andre_pl> anyone know if an ffmpeg .deb from 9.04 will install and work on 8.04?
[00:30] <disregardthat> What should I grep for?
[00:31] <ZING> any ideas on why kompozer keeps quiting on me as soon as it opens??
[00:31] <space_cadet> amgarchIn9, other than that, does the sh look okay??
[00:31] <ZING> i need a good wysiwyg editor
[00:32] <space_cadet> !away > album|awy
[00:32] <ZING> the is URGENT
[00:32] <vigo> ZING: Bluefish. there are a few, but that one is ok
[00:32] <andre_pl> ZING: if its URGENT just edit the raw html. :P
[00:32] <space_cadet> rofl
[00:32] <ubuntux782> EXCUSE ME  CAN ANYBODY SAY ME HOW CONFIGURE THE PROXY IN UBUNTU SERVER 8.10 ?
[00:32] <space_cadet> !caps
[00:32] <Mean_Admin> wow with the scremaing
[00:32] <disregardthat> !caps
[00:33] <The-Mentor> ZING: bluefish is great
[00:33] <space_cadet> rofl @ Mean_Admin 's nick
[00:33] <disregardthat> RichW: I can't pastebin the result, my laptop's netless.
[00:33] <vigo> Zing: Yes, I use Bluefish and another one, but Bluefish is the fall back
[00:33] <ubuntux782> HI
[00:33] <ubuntux782> PLEASE
[00:33] <andre_pl> The-Mentor: 'great' is a subjective term, i would say theres no such thing as a 'great' wysiwyg for html. they're all inferior to hand coding
[00:33] <ZING> is bluefish wysiwyg?
[00:33] <amgarchIn9> space_cadet: why do you escape \# ? I gues that is not necessary inside '\#'
[00:33] <disregardthat> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:33] <ubuntux782> ANYBODY HELP ME
[00:33] <ZING> i need toi be able to see as i type in the code
[00:33] <space_cadet> hmm..
[00:33] <Mean_Admin> so here I am: I've a script that establishes an ssh tunnel-forwarding and then the script mounts smb
[00:33] <vigo> !proxy
[00:34] <The-Mentor> andre_pl: I agree
[00:34] <mrwes> vigo, do you like Bluefish?
[00:34] <space_cadet> kuul
[00:34] <Mean_Admin> except that forwarding privilged ports requires sudo... how can I make my script executable by all (it's already 777, it needs to be executed by root or sudoed)
[00:34] <vigo> arwes: sorta, not really, but sorta
[00:34] <mrwes> vigo, perfectly clear :)
[00:35] <ubuntux782> OK
[00:35] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:35] <Mean_Admin> so my question is: what can I do to allow any user to execute a script which contains a command that needs to be issued by root or with sudo ?
[00:36] <Mean_Admin> actually, not even any user, I wouldn't mind if the script had a box pop-up asking for the sudo password
[00:36] <vigo> arwes: I honestly prefer Arachnophelia, there is a another wysiwyg editor that is like that, pure java, almost, is nice
[00:36] <mrwes> vigo, is that in the repos?
[00:36] <Flannel> ubuntux782: We can hear you.  You don't need to use all caps, nor do you need to say something every minute.  Also, please be more specific.  What sort of proxy (what are you trying to accomplish)? What have you tried? What are you stuck on?
[00:36] <mrwes> or a .deb file for it?
[00:37] <Hfuy> Is there somewhere I can look to see if ubuntu will run all the hardware on my laptop?
[00:37] <mrwes> Hfuy, download the Live CD and try it
[00:38]  * Hfuy winces
[00:38] <Hfuy> Really?
[00:38] <webpigeon_laptop> Hfuy, lshw
[00:38] <vigo> arwes: No it is not, I did a wget , but I see no reason why it is NOT included, it is pure java and the source is pretty dang open.
[00:38] <Hfuy> lshwhat?
[00:38] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:38] <Flannel> !hardware | Hfuy
[00:38] <Flannel> Hfuy: just bear in mind that's not exhaustive nor authoritative.
[00:38] <ubuntux782> IḾ NEW IN LINUX
[00:38] <webpigeon_laptop> Hfuy, sorry mis-read what you wanted
[00:39] <dyek> On Fedora, in this file, /etc/alsa/alsa.conf, there is a pulse-default.conf hook, such that PulseAudio hooks into the alsa "default" pcm device. With this, anything played through the Alsa "default" pcm device will go to PulseAudio sound server. What is equivalent to pulse-default.conf on Ubuntu?
[00:39] <webpigeon_laptop> ubuntux782, WE NOTICED
[00:39] <Irreducibilis> !caps
[00:39] <Flannel> webpigeon_laptop: That's not necessary at all.
[00:39] <webpigeon_laptop> Flannel, sorry :(
[00:39] <Poscaenium> lol
[00:39] <amgarchIn9> ubuntux782: enjoying fools day?
[00:40] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:40] <vigo> ubuntux782: then you are going to see alot of RTFM and such, but welcome to the freedom and the learning again.
[00:40] <sebsebseb> amgarchIn9: not for USA yet, and  April fools day is kind of off topic here
[00:40] <Nithrin> How do I stealth my ports in Ubuntu?
[00:41] <ubuntux782> OK
[00:41] <ubuntux782> I'M SORRY
[00:41] <Shadow_X> what blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?
[00:41] <vigo> Nithrin: TOR, Squid, unplug it or whatever
[00:41] <Hfuy> Hm. No mention of a Toshiba DV1108 under Ubuntu, so I shan't bother.
[00:41] <Hfuy> Thanks anyway.
[00:41] <Raylz> how can i connect to a unprotected wireless network called tunet with my terminal?
[00:41] <Raylz> iwconfig tunet?
[00:42] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, unprotect how?
[00:42] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: no password, no wep
[00:42] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[00:42] <Raylz> no wpa
[00:43] <webpigeon_laptop> Flannel, ah, sorry, i thought this was ##club-ubuntu :(
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "tunet"   (if wlan0 is your wireless interface)
[00:43] <Raylz> your guessing right :)
[00:43] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: is there some cmd for listing available networks too?
[00:43] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, can anyone help?
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, and then, if it is necessary tipe ' sudo iwconfig wlan0 key off '
[00:43] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, iwlist wlan0 scan
[00:43] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: ty so much :)
[00:44] <disregardthat> Also, pastebin won't work on that computer.
[00:44] <ubuntux782> I DON'T CAN CONFIGURE MY DRIVER FOR MY NVIDIA FOR LINUX
[00:44] <Ropechoborra> You're welcome :)
[00:44] <disregardthat> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:44] <space_cadet> !caps | ubuntux782
[00:44] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: in arch theres no networkmanager plasmoid yet :)
[00:44] <savid> On ubuntu server, how do I ensure that a service will start in the default runlevel?
[00:44] <space_cadet> !nvidia
[00:44] <Ropechoborra> Raylz, dont know the meaning of plasmoid :( (sorry for my bad english)
[00:45] <vigo> ubuntux782: Did you look at the forums?
[00:45] <disregardthat> !hal
[00:45] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[00:45] <disregardthat> !hald
[00:45] <ubuntux782> yes i do, but they're not specific
[00:45] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: plasma is the new desktop shell of kde, plasmoid is a widget
[00:45] <Blizzerand> !welcome
[00:45] <Raylz> Ropechoborra: in gnome it would be the nm-applet
[00:45] <glitchd> can anyone help me make my 42 inch lcd tv act as my monitor?
[00:45] <devn> need help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen
[00:45] <Ropechoborra> Raylz,  Ohh ! now i get it :)
[00:45] <Raylz> !hal
[00:45] <space_cadet> !askthebot
[00:46] <marek__> hi is there any CLI editor with find & replace function?
[00:46] <macd_> marek__, nano, pico, vi...
[00:46] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?
[00:46] <vigo> ubuntux782: you can look in the Synaptic Package Manager and find the driver for your card, or use a fglrx.
[00:46] <marek__> nano has onyl search? macd_ ?
[00:46] <durt> marek__, almost all of them, emacs, vim etc.
[00:46] <glitchd> does anyone use arch?
[00:46] <Hobz> cat | grep | awk
[00:46] <Shadow_X> what blank file triggers an fsck upon boot?
[00:46] <Ropechoborra> marek__, almost everyone have them i think
[00:46] <Raylz> glitchd: aye
[00:46] <devn> need help! I installed ubuntu 6.06 onto imac g3 it starts up and i can log in then it goes black screen
[00:47] <ubuntux782> i do
[00:47] <sebsebseb> devn:  Ubuntu 6.06 is  nearly not suppourted anymore
[00:47] <glitchd> raylz, u think u could help me figure this out?
[00:47] <Raylz> glitchd: dunno, i could try :)
[00:47] <glitchd> i have arch on my computer with a 15 inch monitor
[00:47] <macd_> marek__, crtl+r is for replace after you find.
[00:47] <devn> yes but i have an old world imac g3 so thats why i use 6.06
[00:47] <VoodooDance> howdy all
[00:47] <glitchd> i jus got a 42 inch lch 1080 tv
[00:47] <VoodooDance> How difficult is it to setup dual boot for an existing Ubuntu installation with a new second hard drive?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> devn: well 8.04 would probably run as well.
[00:47] <ubuntux782> i did  but it is not there because video card is old version
[00:48] <sebsebseb> !mac | devn
[00:48] <sebsebseb> no good uhmmm
[00:48] <glitchd> raylz, how can i make the tv recognize the computer signal?
[00:48] <disregardthat> I can't get X to recognize my mouse or keyboard. This is probably a HAL problem, owing to how X devices are configured nowadays. I'm on a Dell Inspiron E1505N, pastebin won't work, can anyone help?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> devn:  ok I can't really help anyway, since I don't have a Mac.  sounds like to do with xorg your issue  or something like that, well if  Ubuntu on Mac is anything like Ubuntu on PC
[00:48] <glitchd> i pulgged it in nd i t all came up but when i logged in the display went all black
[00:48] <sebsebseb> devn: there are other distros that work better on the Mac, for example Yellowdog Linux
[00:49] <marek__> thx folks
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: you need to configure it for a second monitor
[00:49] <RichW> glitchd, if using nvidia/ati, install their control panels
[00:49] <vigo> VoodooDancer: Is really quite easy to add almost any Debian based or Grub loaded, I had issues with some BSD stuff, but I fixed it,.
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: never done it myself but you have to look for xorg.conf or nvidia/ati tools
[00:49] <glitchd> how can i figure out what i have?
[00:49] <glitchd> where can i find those??
[00:49] <Raylz> glitchd: lspci | grep VGA
[00:50] <pirp999> i've bricked my dg834 netgear router. I tried to put my on busybox config on it and now the eth ports are non-responsive, is it even possible to unbrick this?
[00:50] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working? They don't show up under HAL, I'm on an Inspiron E1505N, and it's not April Fools' Day yet for me. This is serious. Any advice?
[00:51] <vigo> VoodooDancer: I am running two Ubuntus' one Debian and gNewSence on two hard drives now, one box.
[00:51] <ubuntux782> thanks vigo
[00:51] <ubuntux782> bye
[00:51] <Hfuy> where would I get this live CD?
[00:51] <Flannel> Hfuy: ubuntu.com/download
[00:52] <Flannel> Hfuy: the "desktop" CD is a liveCD you can try Ubuntu out with
[00:52] <Hfuy> Flannel: Surely that'd just be an install CD.
[00:52] <keith> When I run dd on a partition, it seems like the information it is returning is not up to date with actions through the file system. Is this the case? If so, how can I get around it?
[00:52] <Flannel> Hfuy: No, the Alternate CD is just an install CD.  The Desktop CD is a Live CD that you can also install with.
[00:52] <marek__> one more, in nano, when i type Ctrl+w i can see search box, there is also an information about regexp, i would like to use it, it has M-R shorcut, what doe it mean?
[00:53] <Hfuy> Which version do I want
[00:54] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my lptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[00:54] <Flannel> Hfuy: you want 32bit, and also likely want 8.10
[00:55] <chronic> ikonia, hey, i need you to unban me from ubuntu+1
[00:55] <sotec_prod> Why would my / drive be reading 0 bytes free?
[00:55] <vigo> Flannel:>>^5
[00:55] <raddad> Has anybody ran civilization 2 or 3 in wine successfully?  ubuntu 8.04  and wine 1.1.17
[00:55] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my la ptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[00:55] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, check http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/touchpad-issues-with-dell-laptop-700849/ i think there you will find the answer
[00:55] <riwa> Is there some way to reset the mouse settings to default?
[00:55] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: Will read, thanks.
[00:56] <Flannel> chronic: #ubuntu-ops for things like that
[00:56] <disregardthat> chronic: Ask unitedpotsmokers about that, it's probably his department. ;)
[00:56] <unitedpotsmokers> lol
[00:56] <chronic> 420
[00:56] <Flannel> chronic: Please stay on topic.
[00:57] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: I think this is a different issue.
[00:57] <disregardthat> I can't get it to even move the cursor.
[00:57] <Teejay__> hi
[00:57] <sotec_prod> Does anyone know why my / drive is reading as 0 bytes free? If that's the case, how do I clean junk out of it to free up space? I'm not able to download anything...
[00:57] <disregardthat> sotec_prod: sudo apt-get clean
[00:57] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, in the 2nd post there is a Quote wich talks about your laptop model. it says to add something in the xorg.conf
[00:57] <sotec_prod> I tried that
[00:57] <VoodooDance> Is it possible to mount your boot partition and edit your grub configuration?
[00:57] <Flannel> sotec_prod: an eays way to clean some up is apt-get clean, yes.  But, check /var/log for runaway log files
[00:58] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: did  #ubuntu+1 tell you to come back here?  :D
[00:58] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, worths the effort to try :P
[00:58] <LjL> chronic: you know what the channel for ban-related requests is. ask again here, and you get banned from here too.
[00:58] <disregardthat> Ropechoborra: I'm almost completely sure this is something else.
[00:58] <disregardthat> That and xorg.conf doesn't do anything to my system.
[00:58] <`Borg`> why on some drives does ubuntu 64-bit (even though there is enough space on a drive) report that the drive does not have enough space?
[00:58] <`Borg`> bug?
[00:58] <coppro> `Borg`: how much extra space
[00:58] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I don't think I understand that. What's the significance of runaway log files?
[00:58] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:58] <Hfuy> There are no bugs in linux.
[00:58] <Hfuy> Only
[00:58] <chronic> LjL, lolz, dude , u know im banned from there
[00:58] <Ropechoborra> disregardthat, sorry, didnt noticed. You're right
[00:58] <Hfuy> "patches welcome"
[00:59] <coppro> For experimentation purposes, does there exist a package that allows software OpenGL rather than hardware (I'm aware that there will be slowdown), preferably for a single application
[00:59] <`Borg`> like major extra space coppro. 150Gb+
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: A log file that is far too large (assumingyou don't have a separate /var) and is taking up all of the space on your drive.
[00:59] <Titan8990> chronic, maybe you shouldn't do things that get you banned
[00:59] <coppro> `Borg`: Okay, the defeats my first guess.
[00:59] <unitedpotsmokers> hey guys, im using windows xp now, and run ubuntu with vmware. i configure share folders in vmware and install vmware tools in ubuntu, and everything ok except share folder. where to find them in ubuntu?
[00:59] <Nithrin> How do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?
[00:59] <coppro> Perhaps the partitioning is weird?
[00:59] <sebsebseb> chronic: your banned from +1?  same here
[00:59] <so20f> i downloaded a beta jaunty cd, and i'd like to use that to upgrade my system, can it be done? starting the update managner and using it oesn't find the CD
[00:59] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I can safely delete the log files, yes?
[00:59] <coppro> unitedpotsmokers: read up on samba
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[00:59] <Titan8990> !samba | unitedpotsmokers
[00:59] <Flannel> sotec_prod: Yes.  Well, you'll lose the data in them, but nothing will explode.
[00:59] <sotec_prod> I don't have jaunty.
[00:59] <makdin> hellow
[01:00] <`Borg`> ok just wanted a second imput on the matter. I've seen the problem rolling around the net somewhat.
[01:00] <sotec_prod> I have Intrepid.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: you can put on jaunty, but then your not entitled to suppourt here anymore
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: basicalley
[01:00] <makdin> hellow
[01:00] <makdin> morning
[01:00] <raddad> could everybody type slower?  I'm not a speed reader LOL
[01:00] <sebsebseb> so20f: unless you got another previous version on another computer
[01:00] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I'll check the logs. Thanks.
[01:00] <so20f> sebsebseb, that's not what i'm asking.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[01:00] <makdin> every body here
[01:01] <makdin> can help me please
[01:01] <orochi> hello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors
[01:01] <so20f> sebsebseb, it's a live CD, and i'd like to use it to update my system. instead of formatting the drive and installing jaunty.
[01:01] <disregardthat> Can anyone help me get my mouse and keyboard working on my laptop? They don't show up under HAL, and it's an Inspiron E1505N.
[01:01] <sotec_prod> Flannel, my entire /var/log folder is 6.6mb. that can't be it.
[01:01] <sebsebseb> so20f: you can install a version of Ubuntu, and upgrade it yeah
[01:01] <matty_b> is there any way to search man pages?
[01:01] <Flannel> so20f: Again, please ask in #ubuntu+1.  But no, you can't upgrade from Desktop CDs, only Alternate CDs.
[01:01] <disregardthat> sotec_prod: try sudo apt-get clean
[01:02] <coppro> orochi: UDP is not normally checked.
[01:02] <`Borg`> & Hfuy, if a software has a problem that needs a patch, typically that is referred to as a 'bug fix.'
[01:02] <sotec_prod> disregardthat, I have several times
[01:02] <disregardthat> ah
[01:02] <amgarchIn9> matty_b: man -k keyword
[01:03] <matty_b> thanks
[01:03] <Teejay__> anybody installed ubuntu on ausus eee pc 701SD and managed to get the ethernet port working?
[01:03] <Teejay__> when I tried to install ubuntu on it, it would not pick up the ethernet
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Teejay__: they aren't suppourted here, but  ubuntu eee  or easypeasy  are better on  the eepc's  as far as I know.
[01:03] <allowoverride> im back
[01:03] <allowoverride> Dreamglider you still here? :)
[01:03] <raddad> If I install 8.10 over 8.04 will it nuke everything already in place; as in a clean slate with no installs, wipe out email accounts etc?
[01:03] <amgarchIn9> matty_b: "man man" also works
[01:04] <allowoverride> Dreamglider: you mentioned restricted drivers... let's talk about that for a few... k
[01:04] <sotec_prod> raddad, yes
[01:04] <sebsebseb> raddad: probably
[01:04] <lukinfore> hi! when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?
[01:04] <gartral> ok, this is a pain in my arse, ah need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?
[01:04] <keith> Are device drivers in /dev not kept up to date when a drive is modified through the file system?
[01:04] <raddad> that's what I thought, thanks
[01:04] <coppro> How do I figure out if I'm using MESA?
[01:04] <Nithrin> How do I get into the TOR program so I can make changes? Do I need to make changes once it downloads itself and installs? Does it run on its own or do I need to do stuff to get it working?
[01:05] <xun_> Hi, I think I ran into a bug in compiz's Unfold under the Desktop Cube, I only see 3 screens instead of 4, with 1 of them duplicated... I'm running off dual monitor btw. can someone help?
[01:05] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: here
[01:05] <allowoverride> great...
[01:05] <allowoverride> sorry i had to go away for spell, grab my son from school
[01:05] <sotec_prod> Flannel, uninstalling programs via Synaptic or apt-get is'nt going to free up space is it? I think (I don't remember) I set /home on it's own partition for contingency.
[01:05] <allowoverride> you mentioned restricted drivers, i am already running restricted for the ati card
[01:05] <coppro> xun_: You probably have one desk top on each monitor, so the other doesn't appear on the cube
[01:05] <sotec_prod> that may be why it's full
[01:05] <allowoverride> i wonder if that will be a good mix in the first place
[01:05] <allowoverride> lol
[01:06] <xun_> coppro, sorry i don't quite get that. what do you mean one desktop on each monitor?
[01:06] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: to i doubt i can help you much, i just installed the restricted drivers for the graphic card (ati x1400) and compiz and hey presto full 3d desktop and cube and stuff
[01:06] <coppro> sotec_prod: it should. Also, to check partitions, look at /etc/fstab
[01:06] <Flannel> sotec_prod: Run baobab and see what's up.  Or du or something.  How many partitions do you have?  is it / and /home and that's it?  (df will tell you)
[01:06] <coppro> xun_: Well, if you have four desktops, and one is on each monitor
[01:06] <coppro> then I guess compiz doesn't show the other one on the cube
[01:07] <allowoverride> Dreamglider: so my question is sorta answered already... from what you mentioned prior, but how about the command or configs i may require, may i have a look at your xorg.conf or something else? to compare and see if i am on the same page. also,, do i need glx or xlg to run compiz? i was reading the docs earlier
[01:07] <xun_> coppro, oh i see. no i'm using NVidia Twinview mode, so both monitor are seen as one desktop
[01:07] <coppro> ah
[01:07] <gartral> ok, this is a pain, i need to configure VLC's sound output manually, but i cant find the DSP device, where are they in 8.10?
[01:07] <coppro> hmm
[01:07] <coppro> you sure you're on four desktops
[01:07] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[01:08] <xun_> coppro,, yes i can rotate the cube just fine
[01:08] <allowoverride> also, if something breaks, like it did in the past, i had to reinstall the os. very new to ubuntu
[01:09] <xun_> it just has one of them duplicated... so that's why I can only see 3 of them.
[01:09] <allowoverride> something along these lines....   sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:09] <coppro> xun_: But do you have four desktops set?
[01:09] <Mean_Admin> ok, last check: if I add "icarus ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/script" as last line in /etc/sudoers, it should allow icarus (and only icarus) to execute script that's supposed to be executed by root(or rather sudo)?
[01:09] <Hfuy> allowoverride: Is it a desktop or a laptop?
[01:10] <allowoverride> lappy,,,
[01:10] <Hfuy> Good luck, you'll need it.
[01:10] <allowoverride> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[01:10] <allowoverride> 8.04 LTS desktop
[01:10] <sotec_prod> baobab reports that / is full
[01:10] <Hfuy> Is it one that's specifically mentioned as working well under linux on any website?
[01:11] <VoodooDance> If I have 2 hard drives... one Ubuntu and one Windows XP... is dual booting possible?
[01:11] <lukinfore> when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I change this?
[01:11] <Mean_Admin> VoodooDance: yeah it should
[01:11] <mshanks> VoodooDance; yes
[01:12] <so20f> any reason why i can't configure my card with iwconfig anymore? it keeps disconnecting from the AP from local choice (dmesg output) but using the network manager program it's flawless. any ideas?
[01:12] <VoodooDance> Is it ok for dual boot to have one SATA and one regular IDE?
[01:12] <xun_> coppro, yes i'm pretty sure
[01:12] <xun_> although I don't know where to change the number of desktops's set
[01:12] <sotec_prod> Flannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?
[01:12] <xun_> i just viewed Desktop Wall, and it shows 4 desktops as well...
[01:13] <RedWar> bak!  Hey what's the deal with using the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu. Why is it still so damned difficult? How can I get it to work?
[01:14] <sotec_prod> VoodooDance, I have 3 IDE's and one SATA II drive, and I've triple-booted that config. Works fine.
[01:14] <Lunie2ns> Anyone have a moment to help a noob connect to wireless network with ubuntu on my laptop?
[01:14] <Nithrin> Where can I get the Firefox plugin called  Live IP Address?
[01:14] <VoodooDance> sotec_prod, ty
[01:14] <sotec_prod> no problem
[01:14] <VoodooDance> Mean_Admin, mshanks ty
[01:14] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: installing compiz should install everything it needs, sure ill pastebin the xorg.conf
[01:14] <coppro> so20f: You will need to turn networkmanager off to do manual configuration; /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
[01:15] <Hfuy> I had to install compiz on an eee-pc once.
[01:15] <Hfuy> God it was a nightmare.
[01:15] <so20f> coppro, i did
[01:15] <so20f> coppro, uninstalled it with apt-get to make sure of that as well. same result.
[01:16] <coppro> Oo
[01:16] <sotec_prod> Flannel, Gparted reports that I do infact have a / dir and a /home seperate from that. / is indeed full. Now, the question of course, is: How do I free up space?
[01:16] <Nithrin> Where can I get the  Live IP Address Firefox plugin?
[01:16] <Lunie2ns> ...anyone?
[01:17] <mapsuy> hi how do i install nmap latest version?
[01:17] <LjL> !latest | mapsuy
[01:17] <Dreamglider> allowoverride: u got the link ?
[01:18] <ge0rge007> i use kubuntu 8.10 and i cant figure out how to make my external usb sound card work(behringer uca202).Could anyone help me?
[01:18] <The-Mentor> ladies and gentlemen good night
[01:18] <mapsuy> LjL: can our nmap scan for conficker virus then? any idea?
[01:19] <LjL> mapsuy: no, i don't know. what does scanning for it involves?
[01:19] <sotec_prod> Can I safely uninstall Evolution? I will most likely NEVER need it.
[01:19] <nado> you need the latest beta version of nmap mapsuy, beta5 i believe
[01:19] <alevine> is it possible to move a hard drive with ubuntu on it to a completely different system and boot from it without any problems?
[01:19] <mapsuy> nmap --script=smb-check-vulns --script-args=safe=1  -p139,445 -d1 192.168.1.1   <--but this doesnt run cuz of that script
[01:20] <nado> alevine, very unlikely
[01:20] <JakeLL> I'm having an install CD problem, anyone willing to help?
[01:20] <PoetOfShadows> !ask | JakeLL
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, burn it at <= 4x?
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, or use unetbootin to 'burn' yourself an ubuntu live usb
[01:21] <RedWar> Gentlemen any ideas, the Logitech usb laser headset with ubuntu, how do I get it to work?
[01:21] <alevine> nado: what would the problem be? isn't the kernel one size fits all?
[01:21] <RedWar> and ladies sorry
[01:21] <nado> alevine, i would say a file system problem
[01:21] <space_cadet> JakeLL, with the cd are you getting I/O errors?
[01:22] <nado> alevine, is the hard disk you are copying to the same ?
[01:22] <alevine> nado: i'm not copying anything. I just want to take the hard drive from this computer, slide it into a different system (different mobo, cpu, RAM etc) and boot
[01:22] <JakeLL> ubotto: K   All:  I burned the unzipped package from ubuntu to 2 CDs one without boot info and one with.
[01:22] <Flannel> sotec_prod: How big is your /?
[01:23] <JakeLL> The one without never boots
[01:23] <nado> alevine, oh i see... yes it could work
[01:23] <Ienorand> How can I put chainloading into a vesamenu (UNetBootIn)
[01:23] <sotec_prod> Flannel, 9.78gb
[01:23] <alevine> nado: any reason why it wouldn't?
[01:23] <JakeLL> The one one with allows me to get to my DVD drive but none of the fies are executable
[01:23] <Lunie2ns> Hello, can anyone help me, I am new, using Ubuntu 9.04, on my laptop I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 AirForce One 54g 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02),  and I am trying to connect to a TEW-611BRP router wirelessly, any help?..
[01:23] <JakeLL> fies=files
[01:23] <rww> Lunie2ns: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[01:23] <zhurai> Lunie2ns: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[01:23] <nado> alevine, maybe some driver issues, but nothing you couldn't solve
[01:23] <space_cadet> JakeLL, unzipped package??
[01:23] <Lunie2ns> ok thanks
[01:24] <space_cadet> JakeLL, you should have gotten an ISO from the website.
[01:24] <alevine> nado: cool
[01:24] <alevine> thanks
[01:24] <Flannel> sotec_prod: alright, so.  Since that's plenty, we have to figure out what's taking up so much space.  Try firing up baobob
[01:24] <space_cadet> JakeLL, then you burn the iso @ 4x or slower
[01:24] <sotec_prod> Flannel, ok
[01:25] <JakeLL> Aaaah.  K.  I knew I must ahve been doing something idiotic. I thought it was a .rar file
[01:25] <JakeLL> I should have looked closer.
[01:25] <space_cadet> JakeLL, OR use unetbootin from windows to write yourself an ubuntu live usb flash disk
[01:25] <space_cadet> from the ISO
[01:25] <Dreamglider> when did the 4x speed ever helped ? i always use full speen never been a problem ?
[01:25] <sotec_prod> Flannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes
[01:25] <sebsebseb> Lunie2ns: !jaunty
[01:26] <Kiyiko> are the ubuntu servers slow, or is my internet messed up? i am trying to update my computer, but its only going at about 500 b/s
[01:26] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[01:26] <matty_b> i'm having a quick question with alias
[01:26] <matty_b> *problem
[01:26] <matty_b> if i set an alias, how do i unset it?
[01:27] <matty_b> i used 'alias blah=whatever', not .bashrc
[01:27] <space_cadet> borderline flood?
[01:27] <space_cadet> !enter
[01:27] <matty_b> sorry.
[01:27] <nado> matty_b, unalias
[01:27] <mrwes> matty_b, that'll only stay until you log out
[01:27] <sotec_prod> Flannel, there is 104mb free now, but it still registers at 0 bytes
[01:27] <Nithrin> How does one use ActiveX in Ubuntu? Should one use ActiveX in Ubuntu?
[01:28] <matty_b> ah thanks mrwes, i was wondering why my old one that worked disappeared.
[01:28] <space_cadet> activex... isnt that microsoft crap?
[01:28] <avleen> hey folks :) Is there some public read access to the version control system which holds the ubuntu package sources?
[01:28] <nado> matty_b, if you want to keep them around just add them to your .bashrc
[01:28] <mrwes> matty_b, stick it in .bashrc or .bash_aliases to make it permenant
[01:28] <matty_b> how do i make an alias where the command contains single quotes?
[01:28] <nado> use a \
[01:28] <nado> before the quote
[01:29] <space_cadet> Nithrin, hmm..  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56675
[01:29] <matty_b> not working.
[01:29] <rww> !source > avleen    (avleen, see the private message from ubottu)
[01:29] <Flannel> sotec_prod: How did you free it?  Also, a hundred megs isn't really significant.  What on earth is taking up 9GB?
[01:29] <matty_b> i'm trying to do this: alias mbz='find . -type f -name "*.zip" -exec unzip -o '{}' \;'
[01:30] <sotec_prod> Flannel, I freed the space by uninstalling via Synaptic
[01:30] <matty_b> to no avail.
[01:30] <mrwes> Flannel, he checked root Trash?
[01:30] <Flannel> mrwes: Tell him that ;)
[01:30] <sotec_prod> root Trash!
[01:30] <sotec_prod> brb
[01:30] <jeanette> how spelling for restart for terminal.. without reboot...
[01:30] <jeanette> sudo restart ???
[01:30] <space_cadet> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:30] <LjL> jeanette: restart without reboot...?
[01:30] <mrwes> Flannel, shrug... :)
[01:31] <space_cadet> sudo shutdown -r now?
[01:31] <jeanette> LjL: yes i dont want reboot. make it tool long.. just quick. restart in terminal..
[01:31] <sotec_prod> Where is root Trash?
[01:31] <nado> matty_b, try this : alias mbz="find . -type f -name '*.zip' -exec unzip -o '{}' \;"
[01:31] <mrwes> !Trash
[01:31] <mrwes> !root trash
[01:32] <mrwes> er
[01:32] <ugliefrog> how do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu
[01:32] <space_cadet> jeanette, sudo shutdown -r now    that is about as close to restart you are going to get...  you could restart your x session and ctrl+alt+backspace or simply log out...
[01:32] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?
[01:32] <jeanette> okt hanks]
[01:32] <jeanette>  let me try
[01:33] <matty_b> nado: it's saying 'find: missing argument to '-exec'
[01:33] <sotec_prod> HAhaha, I delete the files there, and they flash back into the trash. That's classic.
[01:33] <ugliefrog> how do you format a usb thumb drive in ubuntu
[01:33] <nado> matty_b, worked here.. did you copy paste what i gave you ?
[01:33] <Kiyiko> my updates are running at about 500 B/s, any idea why/how to fix?
[01:34] <mrwes> sotec_prod, /root/.local/share/Trash
[01:34] <sotec_prod> Kiyiko, you can change the server they download updates from
[01:34] <sotec_prod> Software Sources in System menu
[01:34] <matty_b> i did, nada.
[01:34] <mrwes> ugliefrog, you can use gparted, you might need to install it first
[01:34] <ubunttu> who can gives me some tutorials links for java source code building
[01:35] <sotec_prod> Kiyiko, then check Dowload From: and choose another server. There is also a button that will ping all the servers and find the best one for you. I did it today and it worked tits.
[01:35] <nado> matty_b, you are using bash right ?
[01:35] <matty_b> i am.
[01:35] <dominik> hi. i am trying to configure kismet and have a hard time determining which interface to use for my card (bcm43xx). iwconfig says no wireless extensions are available and I am too much a newbie to figure out what to do. can anybody help me out?
[01:35] <nado> just copy pasted the entire line in my bash.. and it worked
[01:35] <sotec_prod> mrwes, I did that. I deleted the files there and they deleted themselves right back into place.
[01:36] <nado> matty_b, notice the double quotes at beginning and end
[01:36] <mrwes> sotec_prod, how did you delete them?
[01:36] <sotec_prod> mrwes, delete key.
[01:36] <space_cadet> try shift delete?
[01:37] <matty_b> yep yep.
[01:37] <mrwes> sotec_prod, use the shift + delete key
[01:37] <mrwes> space_cadet, :)
[01:37] <space_cadet> lol
[01:37] <sotec_prod> mrwes, besides that, there's only six small files in that trash. Not enough to warrant 9.78gb full.
[01:37] <codebliss> Where is the most common place to install programs without aptitude?
[01:37] <matty_b> alright i got it working.
[01:37] <matty_b> thanks nado.
[01:38] <mrwes> sotec_prod, did you hit ctrl + H to show hidden files too?
[01:38] <codebliss> Is it /usr/bin?  Just /bin?
[01:38] <nado> matty_b, no problem
[01:38] <space_cadet> codebliss, synaptic or apt-get ?
[01:38] <codebliss> I just need to install leksah, a Haskell IDE, and I don't want to put it in a non-standard location
[01:38] <nado> codebliss, /usr/local/bin
[01:38] <codebliss> IIRC there are multiple places where programs are installed, but one is most common
[01:39] <codebliss> Well there is no "installing", but you get my point.
[01:39] <space_cadet> apt-get?
[01:39] <Ropechoborra> I've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp3
[01:39] <space_cadet> or you mean placement of a folder?
[01:39] <codebliss> Ignore my aptitude comment lol.
[01:39] <sotec_prod> mrwes, yes and yes. Still reading as 0 bytes free.
[01:39] <codebliss> Where should I put the folder the program resides in?
[01:39] <space_cadet> ~/
[01:39] <space_cadet> ?
[01:39] <codebliss> The most common place on nix systems for just general programs
[01:39] <dominik> codebliss: /opt or home if there's no installation/compilation
[01:39] <sotec_prod> I don't know what the hell is going on here. I can't imagine I filled up 10gb of space already
[01:39] <space_cadet> lol, I use the home folder...
[01:39] <codebliss> For a system wide program, not for just me  =)
[01:40] <nado> codebliss, i told you /usr/local/bin is where the binary should be
[01:40] <codebliss> Thanks, I wanted to get more than one opinion though =).  Thank you
[01:40] <mrwes> nado, aren't both in the path? /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[01:40] <nado> codebliss, lol this is not a democratic process. You ask a question you get an answer :)
[01:41] <space_cadet> yep no votes...
[01:41] <codebliss> This is IRC son, chill out.  I'll use /usr/bin.
[01:41] <nado> mrwes, can be both but usually for user added programs it should go in /usr/local/bin
[01:41] <mrwes> codebliss,  you can put it anywhere you want, long as it's in your path statement it'll run
[01:42] <PhotoJim> I agree, /usr/local/bin is where locally-compiled or written stuff should go
[01:42] <mrwes> nado, Ok...got it
[01:42] <PhotoJim> but if a person prefers to put stuff in /usr/lib/empty, that's ok with me I guess.
[01:42] <mrwes> heh
[01:42] <nado> PhotoJim, true :D
[01:42] <Ropechoborra> I've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but still can listen to mp3
[01:42]  * sotec_prod installs everything right into /.local/share/Trash
[01:42] <Sal--> can anyone help me setup my samba server so it can be accessed outside of my network?
[01:43] <mrwes> PhotoJim, what about putting it in: /here/because/I/Can ?
[01:43] <mrwes> :)
[01:43] <matty_b> how do i execute a binary?
[01:43] <Sal--> ./
[01:43] <space_cadet> ./nameofbinary?
[01:43] <space_cadet> lol
[01:43] <Sal--> or what cadet said
[01:43] <PhotoJim> mrwes: that's a really bad idea.  /here/because/I/shouldn\'t/ is ok though.
[01:43] <matty_b> thanks.
[01:43] <mrwes> wh00p! OK
[01:44] <Sal--> su root; rm -r /*
[01:44] <mrwes> hrmmm
[01:44] <space_cadet> no
[01:44] <sotec_prod> dammit. Why is my drive full?
[01:44] <Sal--> :P
[01:44]  * sotec_prod grumbles
[01:44]  * Sal-- gargles
[01:44]  * sotec_prod rabbles
[01:44]  * Sal-- scattles
[01:44]  * sotec_prod skibbydidoobobs
[01:45] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can we apply any system updates to a live USB?
[01:45] <Sal--> does port 445 have to be open for my samba server to work?
[01:45] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: just run your apt-get or synaptic as usual.
[01:45] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: but if you are running from a livecd or usb, none of the changes you make will be saved...
[01:46] <Tokenekie> Yeah that what i thought
[01:46]  * space_cadet slaps Sal-- with a big large trout.
[01:46] <matty_b> this prog is saying '11: java not found'
[01:46]  * Sal-- slaps space_cadet with a big large scout
[01:46] <Tokenekie> Where can I check for updated files? And I'm guessing we have to manually replace the files on the live USB?
[01:46] <matty_b> what's the package name for the jre, as apt-cache search isn't yielding anything
[01:47] <matty_b> or i should say what's the standard one.
[01:47] <arturis> exit
[01:47] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: there are probably nicer more automatic tools to remaster a livecd/liveusb... check out some docs on ubuntu wiki, maybe...
[01:47] <nanotube_> !liveusb
[01:47] <space_cadet> matty_b, you want java?
[01:47] <nanotube_> !livecd
[01:47] <space_cadet> !java
[01:47] <FAJ> Hi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?
[01:47] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, You might try chrooting in the usb and then updateing I think it will do
[01:47] <matty_b> thanks space_cadet
[01:48] <space_cadet> yep
[01:48] <Sal--> actually my port is open
[01:48] <Tokenekie> Ah, I'll try that
[01:48] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:48] <Sal--> heh and i can't connect via samba
[01:48] <Sal--> weird :(
[01:49] <Nithrin> Any programs that will allow me to play MUDs in Ubuntu?
[01:49] <FAJ> Hi has anyone else found out that the proposed linux-kernel updates in Hardy break ndiswrapper?
[01:49] <Tokenekie> Nano, do you know if this works for liveUSB's off the top of your head?
[01:49] <Tokenekie> your link
[01:49] <sotec_prod> mrwes, what about deborphan?
[01:49] <sotec_prod> Will that help?
[01:50] <mapsuy> anyone in herer trying to detect conficker virus using nmap? any howto?
[01:50] <Sal--> can anyone assist me with my samba server issue?
[01:50] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: no, not off the top of my head... but if not, at worst you could always make a livecd first, then convert it to a liveusb...
[01:50] <safruhani> hi, i use ubuntu 8.10, how can i start sshd?
[01:51] <Tokenekie> Hm, alright
[01:51] <nanotube_> !sshd
[01:51] <Tokenekie> Thanks
[01:51] <nanotube_> safruhani: by default it's not installed. install it with package "openssh-server". then it will start automatically.
[01:51] <nanotube_> Tokenekie: np :)
[01:52] <allowoverride> how can i put things back after installing compiz if it breaks the gui, like it has in the past? do i simply remove ~/.compiz or is there something more?
[01:53] <nado> mapsuy, did you get the lastest version of nmap from their website ?
[01:53] <curt> my sound does not work in the latest version of ubuntu the alpha
[01:53] <safruhani> nanotube_: thanx a lot
[01:53] <curt> can someone please help me
[01:53] <Pupuser402-1> !jaunty | curt
[01:54] <keith_> why does dd show a lost+found folder even after I deleted it from the partition?
[01:54] <nado> mapsuy, then you can read the top article here : http://insecure.org/
[01:55] <nado> keith_, it's created by the filesystem ext3
[01:55] <nanotube_> safruhani: np :)
[01:55] <nanotube_> curt: state your need...
[01:56] <nado> keith_, actually it might be fsck
[01:56] <keith_> nado, I created a ext2 partition and dd showed the lost+found, I mounted the drive and deleted the folder, but dd still shows the same output.
[01:56] <keith_> nado, It was created when I ran mkfs.ext2
[01:56] <curt> nanotube_: i had 8.04 installed and just today i freshly installed 8.04 alpha and the sound does not work
[01:56] <nado> keith_, whenever an fsck is run on your partition.. it will create a lost+found
[01:57] <nado> keith_, you can this little thread about it : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-229143.html
[01:57] <keith_> nado, that isn't the point. The point is nautilus shows no folder, but dd output does.
[01:57] <rww> curt: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1, not here. Thanks :)
[01:58] <PhotoJim> keith_: just a guess, but perhaps nautilus ignores it, or ignores it if it's empty.
[01:58] <keith_> PhotoJim: I deteted it in nautilus
[01:59] <keith_> PhotoJim: actually, it does the same thing if I rm it
[01:59] <curt> can someone please just help me
[01:59] <PhotoJim> keith_: I don't know.  but you shouldn't delete it.  it's a system folder.
[01:59] <PhotoJim> curt: we don't support Jaunty (8.04) here.  join #ubuntu+1.  They support it there.
[01:59] <nanotube_> PhotoJim: jaunty is 9.04
[01:59] <PhotoJim> Oops.
[01:59] <PhotoJim> Sorry :)
[02:00] <keith_> PhotoJim: It is a symptom of the bigger problem. If I create a file in the partition, then run dd, the output hasn't changed.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> curt: never mind.  I was confused.  We do support 8.04 here.
[02:00] <PhotoJim> keith_: I'm puzzled.  dd simply reads partitions at the system level and sends the data somewhere else.  it doesn't actually look at the contents of the filesystem.
[02:01] <zaccour> how do i access trash can without a toolbar? i decided to use avn instead of a toolbar at the bottom
[02:01] <nanotube_> PhotoJim: but he said 8.04 alpha, so he prabably meant jaunty
[02:01] <x2o> hi, does anybody know how to use gnome-voice-control?
[02:01] <keith_> PhotoJim: I am looking at its output.
[02:01] <nanotube_> zaccour: it's in a .Trash folder somewhere in your home dir.
[02:01] <zaccour> thanks
[02:01] <nanotube_> zaccour: but i am not on my ubuntu machine at the moment, so can't tell you exactly where
[02:01] <PhotoJim> keith_: I don't know then, sorry.
[02:02] <keith_> PhotoJim: thanks anyway... :(
[02:02] <nanotube_> zaccour: try running command "find /home/yourusername -name '.Trash' "
[02:02] <makey030> hello all!
[02:02] <nado> keith_, your partition is ext2 ?
[02:02] <makey030> I need help
[02:02] <keith_> nado, I made an ext2 partition
[02:02] <zaccour> nanotube_, how do i do that?
[02:03] <keith_> nado, my system is actually ext4, but that isn't really relevant. :-p
[02:03] <mrwes> zaccour, home directory /.local/share/Trash
[02:03] <nado> and you are running that dd on the ext2 partition ?
[02:03] <Sal--> anyone wanna make 20$ ?
[02:04] <zaccour> i found it, thanks anyway yall
[02:04] <Sal--> helping my fix my samba server issue
[02:04] <Sal--> helping me* even
[02:04] <safruhani> nanotube_: if u've been connect from linux to linux via ssh, what would advice it about to a newbie (like me)
[02:05] <nado> keith_, on what partition are you using the dd ?
[02:05] <nanotube_> safruhani: could you clarify what you are asking? if you are connected, it's all good, and there's no advice. ... :)
[02:05] <keith_> nado, I am using it to read the data from the ext2 partition
[02:06] <makey030> hello all
[02:06] <makey030> i need help with my ubuntu system
[02:06] <safruhani> nanotube_: nevermind, thanks for your patience
[02:06] <nado> makey030, please just ask your question
[02:07] <makey030> i am trying to do what is on this article: http://tinyurl.com/c8ck64
[02:07] <mib_18mmrg> quick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?
[02:07] <makey030> but i am having an issue
[02:07] <makey030> http://tinyurl.com/c8ck64
[02:07] <nanotube_> mib_18mmrg: try that in offtopic
[02:08] <Sal--> I have my samba server running on my Ubuntu server. Both ports 445 and 139 are open. I modified the config to allow use of home directories, and created a samba user with a password and enabled the user. When I try to connect, it just simply times out and never connects. Any ideas where to go from here?
[02:09] <mrwes> Sal--, post your /etc/samba/smb.conf to the paste bin
[02:09] <mib_18mmrg> quick poll for your people that have laptops (need this for a college thing) - How far does your laptop open? 180 degrees? 90? 135?
[02:09] <Sal--> 1 sec mrwes
[02:09] <_Whipper> Sal--: dunno anything about networking.. :) just fought 5hrs with my wifi.. lame...
[02:09] <mib_18mmrg> nanotube_: nobody's in off-topic
[02:09] <LjL> !ot | mib_18mmrg
[02:10] <PhotoJim> mib_18mmrg: I have 3 laptops.  which one? :)
[02:10] <mib_18mmrg> PhotoJim: just.. all of them. I need a random sampleing.
[02:10] <_Whipper> mib_18mmrg: hmm.. depends on the the force..
[02:10] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:10] <LjL> which part of this isn't clear?
[02:11] <allowoverride> the part that is still fuzzy
[02:11] <_Whipper> LjL: sorry, bad day?
[02:11] <allowoverride> ;)
[02:11] <Sal--> _Whipper: http://pastebin.com/m40763c06
[02:11] <LjL> back on topic, please. now.
[02:11] <Sal--> thanks in advance, for trying to help as well
[02:11] <Sal--> yikes :(
[02:12] <x2o> hi, i am using wmii but want to use metacity for a moment with gnome, but it complains that it dont find the sessionfiles
[02:13] <sdlwof> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker  midnight tonight! hope your using opensource!
[02:13] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:14] <mrwes> Sal--, and you added the samba users ?
[02:14] <Sal--> mrwes: 1 sec
[02:14] <nate__> Hi can anyone help me with the program Eclipse, I installed eclipse and the import.java.scanner is Not working :X
[02:14] <Sal--> mrwes: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[02:14] <ubunttu> what's java cannal name ?
[02:14] <sacreno_> hi there ...noob here..i have a question
[02:14] <Sal--> i follow that tutorial, and added one user, myself, the same username already had a shell account
[02:15] <hackeron> What's the new 9.04 repository called?
[02:15] <Sal--> i also ran smbpasswd -e sal, to enable the user
[02:15] <LjL> !jaunty > hackeron    (hackeron, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:15] <hackeron> LjL: thanks
[02:15] <crdlb> ubunttu: try ##java
[02:16] <ubunttu> crdlb: i'm trying
[02:17] <sacreno_> after typing "sudo apt-get install Emacs" where does the exicutable install?
[02:17] <rylasasin> wow.... lot of people in here
[02:17] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: just type "whereis emacs" and it will tell you.
[02:17] <nado> sacreno_, you can type : which emacs to figure that out
[02:17] <sacreno_> sweet thanks
[02:18] <Sal--> mrwes any idea?
[02:18] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, happy Tuesday :) Can someone tell me what command I need to give the terminal to open a folder window with super-user rights?
[02:18] <Nate13> why does it say i need to be identified to join?
[02:18] <ubunttu> crdlb : it not java channel !
[02:18] <dsmith_> hi I cannot read dvd's but they do autoload, when I put in a dvd
[02:18] <Nate13> sudo nautilus
[02:18] <noglorp> I cannot update firefox to save my life :/
[02:18] <LjL> Nate13: to join what?
[02:18] <orochi> hello :> does anyone else receive strange issues with udp in intrepid? in just about any application on eth0 i'm constantly receiving "wrong udp checksum" errors
[02:18] <dsmith_>  libdvdread3 is already installed
[02:18] <hhp2k> Nate13: Thank you :)
[02:18] <Nate13> i just need to get to an ubuntu Java help channel
[02:18] <dsmith_> nog
[02:19] <crdlb> ubunttu: it appears to be +r, which means you need to be registered
[02:19] <noglorp> yes?
[02:19] <dsmith_> noglorp: update via synaptic
[02:19] <noglorp> I tried to update with apt
[02:19] <mrwes> Sal--, this is the guide I used on my server: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:19] <sacreno_> PhotoJim_:is there a way to move the file or create a shortcut in a folder or desktop?
[02:19] <Nate13> where do i register?
[02:20] <nado> sacreno_, man ln is what you want
[02:20] <Sal--> mrwes, could it be hte workgroup is playing a role?
[02:20] <Sal--> the samba server is running on a box outside of my home network
[02:20] <Sal--> and im tryingto mount the shares from home
[02:20] <nado> sacreno_, ln -s target_file link_name
[02:20] <noglorp> dsmith_: I did apt-get install firefox, and now synatpic thinks it is up to date apparently
[02:20] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: moving the file isn't very wise.  but nado's suggestion to make a link to it is a good one.
[02:20] <mrwes> Sal--, what happens when you try to mount the shares?
[02:20] <noglorp> and yet, firefox is still 3.0.4
[02:20] <sacreno_> kk
[02:20] <Sal--> mrwes it looks like it just times out
[02:21] <sacreno_> thanks ill work onit
[02:21] <mrwes> Sal--,  you behind a router?
[02:21] <dsmith_> nog
[02:21] <Sal--> yes, but it's irrelevant
[02:21] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: but if you have a shell / terminal open, you just have to type "emacs".  these directories are in your search path so the system finds the file automatically.
[02:21] <noglorp> yes
[02:21] <rww> !register > Nate13    (Nate13, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:21] <Sal--> i can open all ports on my end
[02:21] <Sal--> at home that is
[02:21] <dsmith_> noglorp: backup your fx directory
[02:21] <dsmith_> purge and reinstall
[02:21] <Sal--> the server itself, has both ports open
[02:21] <noglorp> yuck
[02:21] <noglorp> okay
[02:21] <mrwes> Sal--, and the box on the other end?
[02:21] <noglorp> thats horrible that I have to do that though :(
[02:21] <Sal--> the box hosting hte samba server has ports 139 and 445 open
[02:22] <sacreno_> k...only been on linux for 1 day..hope im not bothering ya
[02:22] <nanotube_> noglorp: are the update repos enabled?
[02:22] <nanotube_> noglorp: and which version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:22] <PhotoJim> sacreno_: there is a learning curve. :)
[02:22] <sacreno_> :)
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: I have 3.0.4
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: but synaptic lists it as 3.0.8
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> what is the best program to play a block buster
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> DEV
[02:23] <nanotube_> noglorp: version of /ubuntu/
[02:23] <noglorp> nanotube_: I've made sure no firefox instances are running
[02:23] <Spirits-Sight> DEV = DVD sorry
[02:24] <noglorp> nanotube_: ah
[02:24] <nanotube_> noglorp: and synaptic lists it as installed?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !best >  Spirits-Sight
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !best
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Spirits-Sight: go to that channel
[02:24] <noglorp> Hardy
[02:24] <rww> !dvd > Spirits-Sight    (Spirits-Sight, see the private message from ubottu)
[02:25] <nanotube_> noglorp: if you run from the cli "firefox --version" what does it say?
[02:25] <rylasasin> just out of curosity.... is it possible to hack into a linux box? I ask not because I want to, but because I've BEEN hacked into on windows several times already
[02:25] <Spirits-Sight> I have a DVD that has close captioning on it Moly and Me movie gf want to watch now :-)  please help
[02:25] <noglorp> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[02:25] <LjL> rylasasin: yes, it's possible in several instances
[02:25] <nohup> Hey, I noticed that Novell just released a new ifolder.  http://www.ifolder.com  Any idea if the ifolder server could be packaged for Ubuntu?
[02:25] <LjL> rylasasin: it's unlikely, though, if you keep your system updated, use strong passwords, and don't install services that you don't need or know about
[02:26] <kiyiko> kiyiko
[02:26] <nanotube_> rylasasin: yes, if you have some services running with easily-guessable passwords...
[02:26] <rylasasin> LjL: is it possible for a hacker to do much damage? or at least as much damage as one hacking into a windows box
[02:26] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: yeah what Ljl  said, and  a hardware firewall in say a router that is enabled, is good,  whatever the OS if it's internet connected have a firewall
[02:26] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: no only if they gain access to root, becasue of say a bad password
[02:26] <LjL> rylasasin: yes, it's possible if they manage to get in in the first place
[02:26] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... try closing all firefoxes (and make sure no firefox processes remain - check in the system process list) and then run "sudo apt-get reinstall firefox"
[02:27] <noglorp> I checked with ps aux | grep firefox
[02:27] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: by the way for reference,  more correct terms are  cracker and blackhat
[02:27] <noglorp> ok
[02:27] <LjL> sebsebseb: if an attacker manages to get in as *any* account, escalation to root is very likely
[02:27] <nanotube_> noglorp: wait sorry
[02:27] <noglorp> um, do I need to back things up for reinstall?
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: i think it's supposed to be "sudo apt-get install firefox --reinstall". i'm not on my ubuntu box, so can't check...
[02:28] <sotec_prod> mrwes, cleaned and cleaned, and still only 196mb free on /
[02:28] <sotec_prod> argh.
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: if the first one doesn't work, try the second one :)
[02:28] <noglorp> ah
[02:28] <sebsebseb> LjL: true
[02:28] <noglorp> k :D
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: no need to back up, reinstall is quite safe.
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: but of course... backups are generally always good. :)
[02:28] <noglorp> --reinstall is workin
[02:28] <nanotube_> noglorp: cool. let's hope it works. :)
[02:29] <noglorp> BLARG
[02:29] <noglorp> Setting up firefox (3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.2) ...
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> konqueror is giving me this message  Error: http://www.alibaba.com/: TypeError: Undefined value
[02:29] <rylasasin> ok. one last question: how differcult is it, compared to windows, is it easy to crack or blackhat into an ubuntu build? say they have a 20 charcter (or whatever the max size pass is) of random letters made in a pass generator  for the super-user
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> and then after a while it closes
[02:29] <noglorp> Mozilla Firefox 3.0.3, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2008 mozilla.org
[02:29] <BlackCoffee> what should i do?
[02:29] <noglorp> oh wait
[02:30] <noglorp> no
[02:30] <noglorp> still 3.0.3
[02:30] <nanotube_> noglorp: try "sudo apt-get update", then again a reinstall (just to make sure you have pulled the latest updates...)
[02:30] <noglorp> kay
[02:30] <noglorp> oh
[02:30] <noglorp> I did that a couple minutes ago
[02:31] <sebsebseb> rylasasin: in general  Windows is more likely to get cracked into, and you can make an  Ubuntu install  rather secure, if you know what your doing, you may want to find out about iptables as well
[02:31] <nanotube_> noglorp: ok then never mind
[02:31] <sebsebseb> !iptables
[02:31] <hhp2k> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with Compiz.  I've initiated it thru the terminal by typing 'compiz' but now the window borders are missing from all of my windows, and the terminal gave me this: http://pastebin.ca/1378518
[02:31] <noglorp> maybe I'll just run upgrade
[02:31] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... how about trying "which firefox" see what that says
[02:31] <dreamy> ive tryed to restore grub(after tryng to isntall xp)  from a live cd  but it cant find no hard disk devices or partitions
[02:32] <sebsebseb> !grub
[02:32] <dreamy> ive done it reading those istructions :)
[02:32] <dreamy> lol
[02:32] <noglorp> its /usr/bin/firefox, --> /usr/bin/firefox-3.0 --> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox
[02:32] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok maybe you deleted all the partitions
[02:32] <noglorp> /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox is the only real firefox executable
[02:32] <dreamy> sebsebseb: ive been following those instructions
[02:32] <dreamy> sebastien: but xp install setup can see them :S
[02:32] <nanotube_> noglorp: hrm... well... then i'm out of ideas. everything seems as it should be. don't know why it says its 3.0.3
[02:32] <dreamy> strange..
[02:33] <noglorp> maybe I'll back up and reinstall
[02:33] <noglorp> I mean remove and reinstall
[02:33] <nanotube_> noglorp: maybe they forgot to update the version string on firefox? let's ask some other hardy users to see what their "firefox --version" says.
[02:33] <sebsebseb> !tab |  dreamy
[02:33] <bartek> Hi there, I just got a new Logitech microphone and it seems to work but I have to be incredibly close to it to talk into it. Basically, it's very quiet in Ubuntu but it works fine in Windows. Any tips on fixing this?
[02:33] <nanotube_> any hardy users here? running all the lates tupdates? could you tell me what it says if you run "firefox --version" ?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> dreamy: type seb  and press tab and  it will auto complete
[02:34] <dreamy> sebastien: ive been doing hat ..
[02:34] <dreamy> im using tab
[02:34] <noglorp> the about page of firefox is 3.0.3 too though :/
[02:34] <dreamy> sebastien: is thare any command i can run ? to be shure about whats going on with my partitions ?
[02:34] <nanotube_> noglorp: both of those pull from the same string. so of course they'd be the same.
[02:34] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and picking the wrong name in the list.   anyway what partitions do you see exactly?
[02:35] <dreamy> sebastien: why did you mentioned about the tab ? ive been using it
[02:35] <Spirits-Sight> I am getting this error: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file. when trying to play the dvd after following the instruction of the link that was provided
[02:35] <nanotube_> any hardy users here? anyone?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> nanotube_: used to be, just say your issue
[02:36] <nanotube_> sebsebseb: could you tell me what "firefox --version" says for you?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> nanotube_: what it says?????  I am on 9.04 beta now :D  so  won't be quite the same I guess.   what it says as in what Firefox says in about firefox or what the user agent says?
[02:37] <noglorp> finally!
[02:37] <twolane> nanotube_: x86-64 yes hardy. Mozilla Firefox 3.0.8, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2009 mozilla.org
[02:37] <nanotube_> sebsebseb: no, to check whether the version string on 3.0.8 is updated in hardy.
[02:37] <dreamy> sebsebseb: if it was just to let me know.. thanks i apreciate it
[02:37] <noglorp> nanotube_: got it
[02:37] <noglorp> "update manager" did it properly
[02:37] <nanotube_> noglorp: ah, cool ok, :)
[02:37] <noglorp> did what apt-get and synaptic couldn't
[02:37] <nanotube_> noglorp: weird...
[02:37] <noglorp> for some horrible reason
[02:38] <noglorp> although my home page is still "http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/" which is funny
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  there is a command to list your partitions uhmmmm  what was it
[02:38] <dreamy> sebsebseb: df ?
[02:38] <twolane> sebsebseb: fdisk -l
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: well program you install first and then run it
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: pydf  sure
[02:38] <nanotube_> 8.04 is the ubuntu version. :)
[02:38] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and  what twolane will probably work
[02:38] <sebsebseb> said
[02:38] <disregardthat> I'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> dreamy: I still prefer graphical for partitions,  so  I  would  sudo apt-get install gparted and look there, or   put  kdiskfree on and have a look
[02:40] <dreamy> okey.. but im using a live cd
[02:40] <disregardthat> dreamy: Gparted should be on the CD.
[02:40] <dreamy> if xp erased my partiotions after a failed install id like to be shure
[02:40] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok you got it on by default then  system > administaration > partition editor
[02:41] <zhurai> <disregardthat> dreamy: Gparted should be on the CD. <-- it is on the CD
[02:41] <dreamy> im going to try to run that.. gpated
[02:41] <disregardthat> I'm trying to run X, but I keep getting an error about a "bad VBT signature" using Intel 2.6.3 drivers. Advice?
[02:41] <Spirits-Sight> How do you trun on Close captioning in VLC
[02:42] <sebsebseb> disregardthat: which version of Ubuntu?
[02:42] <dreamy> does xp has any sort of rule or control agaynst burning the "installation" to a dvd ?  ive been doing that .. :S
[02:42] <dreamy> *installation and setup files..
[02:42] <disregardthat> Hard to say. It's a half-broken upgrade to Jaunty, but since there's nobody helpful on #ubuntu+1, I went here.
[02:42] <sebsebseb> dreamy: burning XP to DVD hummmmmm  sounds like you don't have a bought version
[02:42] <sotec_prod> Ok, I specifically remember just recently having 4gb available in /, and now I have managed to free up 394mb from the full disk. I ran a backup program earlier, but couldn't find the file. Maybe that's what's killing my disk space?
[02:43] <dreamy> no not at all :)
[02:43] <disregardthat> #ubuntu+1 isn't really a support channel anyways.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !piracy
[02:43] <dreamy> i had to because my dvd only reads dvds.. no cds anymore.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> dreamy: well if it's a bought version that you  converted to DVD some how  that would be ok
[02:43] <sebsebseb> dreamy: I think
[02:44] <dreamy> yes i converted.. using iso recorder..
[02:44] <sebsebseb> dreamy: why do you want XP?
[02:44] <dreamy> to get the new beta drivers for the radeon mobility m6 ly
[02:44] <dreamy> theyr not released tho :S
[02:44] <dreamy> yet
[02:44] <sebsebseb> dreamy: Windows and Ubuntu have differnet drivers
[02:45] <dreamy> my ubuntu driver for the mobility 7000 only gets 300 fps on glxgears
[02:45] <Meshezabeel> is there a benefit of getting the 64-bit Ubuntu if I only have 1GB of RAM?
[02:45] <dreamy> its a 32 megs 3d
[02:46] <twolane> dreamy: is fglrx installed
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Meshezabeel: probably not,  need about 4GB RAM for  64bit to be any good, as far as I know
[02:46] <dreamy> twolane: probably
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Meshezabeel: 4GB RAM or no point bothering with 64bit as far as I know
[02:46] <twolane> dreamy: get rid of it.
[02:46] <Meshezabeel> thanks sebsebseb
[02:46] <dreamy> twolane: id like to check that
[02:46] <sebsebseb> dreamy: we can't help you burn a pirate copy of XP here
[02:46] <dreamy> of fglrx ?
[02:46] <sotec_prod> I get 5,000+ FPS with glxgears on my 8600GT with TT
[02:47] <dreamy> get rid of fglrx ?
[02:47] <dreamy> but its the original
[02:47] <dreamy> the partitiojns where erased indeed
[02:47] <stdruseren> does anyone here know why my synaptic keeps telling me fail fail i tried all servers, i have feisty
[02:47] <sebsebseb> dreamy: good well  just put Ubuntu on or do another distro :)  ideally
[02:47] <dreamy> :)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> dreamy: or have you got a good reason to want XP other than, because of some drivers?
[02:48] <dreamy> no
[02:48] <ce> ;;;;;;;;;
[02:48] <dreamy> i got to laps
[02:48] <dreamy> 2 laps
[02:48] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  the other has Windows?
[02:48] <_chun> I've added pidgin and amarok to startup applications; is there any way to set them to only open in the system tray, rather than opening their full windows?
[02:48] <dreamy> well..
[02:48] <nanotube_> stdruseren: feisty is no longer supported. could it be they turned off the feisty repos?
[02:48] <dreamy> yes but i hardly use it
[02:48] <ce> ;
[02:48] <stewart_> is there a way i can set the height of window titles in ubuntu?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok well  why not go Ubuntu only on one,  you may find it's a rather nice feeling indeed
[02:49] <ce> p[[[[[[[[[[[
[02:49] <dreamy> its realy nice yes !
[02:49] <Rabbitbunny> stdruseren: Did you try pinging the servers?
[02:49] <sebsebseb> dreamy:   have you had UBuntu on there before?  yes, and this graphics card issue?
[02:49] <stdruseren> yes i can even http to them
[02:49] <ce> pppp
[02:50] <dreamy> i use it for somem months
[02:50] <dreamy> ubuntu
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: which version?
[02:50] <stdruseren> nanotube_, yes
[02:50] <rww> stdruseren: Feisty repositories were moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <dreamy> 8.04
[02:50] <stdruseren> its true
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: ok  cool
[02:50] <jimmyjames_> hey guyz how come after I installed a theme engine the theme still doesn't see it?
[02:50] <stdruseren> I am running on a virtual machine
[02:50] <stdruseren> now its working
[02:50] <sebsebseb> dreamy: 8.04 and 8.10 have completly differnet versions of xorg by the way.  and  it sounded like you had some graphics card issue
[02:50] <BlackCoffee> what's the best MSN app for ubuntu?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !best |  BlackCoffee
[02:51] <Rabbitbunny> BlackCoffee: I like pidgin
[02:51] <stdruseren> i found an old repository, its still at ubuntu.com they just renamed it to old-releases
[02:51] <BlackCoffee> im tired of emesene,and kopete and kmess won't work properly
[02:51] <BlackCoffee> Pidgin
[02:51] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: yeah Pidgin is good, but if you want other features web cam etc,   AMSN, and I think Kmess can do it.
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !msn
[02:51] <stdruseren> rww, oh just figure that out, thanks any ways.
[02:51] <dreamy> sebastien: i do .. i wanted to make it run games
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !games
[02:52] <stdruseren> it really sucks i spent like an hour figuring it out.
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> i'll try it
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> amsn is great
[02:52] <dreamy> sebastien: i think 8.10 wont do well with 256 mermory
[02:52] <sebsebseb> dreamy: you can run quite a lot of games in Ubuntu,  native and wine
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> but i can't get it to display properly
[02:52] <sebsebseb> dreamy: yeah stay on 8.04
[02:52] <BlackCoffee> same thing with kopete an kmess
[02:52] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: ok have you trtied Mecury Messenger it's a java app, made by only one guy
[02:52] <sebsebseb> closed source
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: Mercury Messenger that is,  it can be pretty good at times
[02:53] <BlackCoffee> is it on the repo?
[02:53] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: personally I woudn't use  it for dialy usage, and no not in the repo, but you need Java installed for it
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: it's worth a try though
[02:53] <BlackCoffee> will check it out
[02:53] <dreamy> sebsebseb: should i have fglrx or not have it ?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: and if none of them are good enough well, if your computer has enough RAM, you could just  virtual machine  Windows,  and run  WIndows Live Messenger
[02:54] <jimmyjames_> ok let me reword it is it worth while setting up these theme engines not in repository and or going to gnome look for themes cuz I could do without
[02:54] <Ienorand> dreamy: do you want compiz and/or 3D apps?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: I think Trillian works quite well under Wine,  that's multi protocall
[02:54] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: I haven't tried Trillian under Wine, but I think it will work well
[02:54] <BlackCoffee> wine?that vm type little app?
[02:54] <dreamy> Ienorand: no
[02:54] <sebsebseb> !wine
[02:55] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: no  Wine let's you run  Windows apps in  Desktop Linux.   and  virtual machines let you run actsaul Windows
[02:55] <jimmyjames_> GTK+ engines are required on alot of themes at gnome look so I dl some installed and they are still not visible to the corresponding themes
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i c
[02:55] <BlackCoffee> i do have wine,never checked it out though
[02:55] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: Live Messenger wont' work in WIne, or wont' work well
[02:56] <sebsebseb> BlackCoffee: it's better to add  http://www.winehq.org Ubuntu's repo, and then get Wine, because then you always get the latest version
[02:56] <dreamy> sebsebseb: the beta driver is being made by ati , otherwise then the xorg ati driver .. :S
[02:56] <dreamy> sebsebseb: i think ill have performance with the new driver
[02:57] <sebsebseb> dreamy:  Windows graphics card drivers in Ubuntu, wont work,  for help with  Windows  drivers on Windows #windows
[02:57] <dreamy> ok sorry
[02:57] <sebsebseb> dreamy: and  why not go Ubuntu only on one of your lap tops as I was saying
[02:57] <otm> noob question: the 'terminal' in ubuntu is the same in all linux distros isn't it?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> otm: no not exactly,  some will call it the shell and some will call it the konsole, and I belive there are about 3 differnet  ones to choose from
[02:58] <dreamy> sebsebseb: i use ubnutu every day .. i like it
[02:58] <sebsebseb> !bash
[02:58] <otm> sebsebseb: are the commands the same?
[02:58] <backz> Hi, I've this sound card: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA). My sound get delay when I'm installing or compiling some thing. Why? I've tried something like: irqpoll at menu.lst and "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. Same problem.
[02:58] <jimmyjames_> has anyone tried jaunty in beta?
[02:58] <dreamy> sebsebseb: its  a very clever operating system
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: commands such as cd and lscpci  those will be the same, because they are  Linux/Unix commands.  however commands such as apt-get install and  things are distro specific
[02:59] <otm> :O
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: that was lscpi above
[02:59] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[02:59] <sebsebseb> otm: and  Kubuntu is slightly differnet when it comes to installing programs.  ksudo or something instead of sudo
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> jimmyjames_: Jaunty testing is in #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <sebsebseb> otm: you can have both in the same install by the way, and Xubuntu
[03:00] <jimmyjames_> kk atleast I got a response heh
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> sebsebseb: theree is gksu for gnome
[03:00] <sebsebseb> otm: above   Ubuntu and Kubuntu  have slightly differnet  commands.  gksudo  and  yeah
[03:01] <sebsebseb> tonyyarusso: yeah I know
[03:01] <otm> sebsebseb: guess i should stick with ubuntu then, i was thinking about giving lots of linux distros a try but it seems that that would just confuse me
[03:02] <sebsebseb> otm: depends on the distros you try
[03:02] <otm> sebsebseb: well i'm fairly accustomed to ubuntu, i don't really know what doors that opens though
[03:03] <Pyles17> My wireless internet doesn't work. I have an Intel 3945abg card, which works fine in windows. A belkin card worked, until it broke :-( help?
[03:03] <otm> sebsebseb: i still consider myself a noob though, i could never install a program manually without looking it up
[03:04] <sebsebseb> otm: for the distro specific stuff, well.   when you install  programs in ubuntu you will normalely install debs (Debian Packages) using  sudo apt-get or  aptitude or synaptic.  ,but then there's  RPM (Redhat Package Manager) as well  which is  the file format  for   Redhat based distros.  so  a differnet command on those distros.    this description is not that good, so I will use the bot
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !deb
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !rpm
[03:04] <kd5zmc> hi
[03:05] <kd5zmc> how does this thing work
[03:05] <otm> !APT
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: "this thing" being?
[03:05] <kd5zmc> tonyyarusso ubuntu
[03:06] <kd5zmc> trying to get yahoo IM to work with wine
[03:06] <sebsebseb> otm: and then when you compile stuff from source  from a tar.gz  yeah those commands are the same,  regardless of the distro.
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: uh, what level of detail are you looking for?  It's an operating system.
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, good luck
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> kd5zmc: why do you need yahoo's IM client?
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !yahoo
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, if you want voice... i have figured some things out..
[03:06] <kd5zmc> I like the voice chat
[03:06] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, you have to use ekiga
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, and you have to use gtalk2viop
[03:07] <kd5zmc> how
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, lemmie get a link
[03:07] <Pyles17> can anyone help me with the fact that my wireless doesn't work?
[03:07] <Tugle> is gtalk in the repositories?
[03:07] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, it still needs development
[03:07] <space_cadet> Tugle, off topic
[03:07] <kd5zmc> ok
[03:08] <sebsebseb> space_cadet:  you have figured what out? share your knowledge :D
[03:08] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, this is how far I have gotten.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:08] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, ^^
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Yahoo will also work in Pidgin :)
[03:08] <sebsebseb> just lack certain features
[03:08] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yahoo voice calls from linux
[03:08] <gravityblock> Try pidgin for yahoo messenger
[03:08] <kd5zmc> ok thinks give me a sec to figure things out
[03:08] <space_cadet> gravityblock, voice
[03:08] <space_cadet> gravityblock, sebsebseb http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:09] <dick-richardson> how can I check the status of my UPS at the command line? The GUI's nice, but I'm writing a script.
[03:09] <ZING> everybody ready for the april 1st virus?
[03:09] <dreamy> sebsebseb: do u know why the live cd freezes after it does all the tasks and stop readyg ?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: email fool jokes in here, won't go well, I expect
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: ops might even kick people out for it
[03:10] <_Whipper> dreamy: 'cos its so cold ?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> ZING: April not email
[03:10] <ZING> the one thats on the news and crap
[03:11] <Flannel> ZING: This is a place for Ubuntu support.  For general chatting, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:11] <Pyles17> there is a virus, but it is for windows
[03:11] <ZING> that ms offered a qurt of a mill $ to find the devs
[03:11] <_Whipper> ZING: old..
[03:11]  * Pupuser402-1 is on linux, so i dont care bout that virus threat
[03:11] <space_cadet> anyone else want to help further yahoo voice support on linux?
[03:11] <ZING> hmmm well fine then... be grouchy :P i'll take it to off topic then
[03:11] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: not as such, since I don't like Yahoo much, because.... but that's off topic here
[03:11] <Pyles17> so no help with the intel 3945 card not working?
[03:12] <kd5zmc> ok send the link one more time pease
[03:12] <space_cadet> kd5zmc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097278
[03:12] <kd5zmc> thanks
[03:12] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: Skype does voice, but   I don't think much else for Linux does sadly :(
[03:12] <ZING> oh yea i do need some support... for some odd reason my firefox doesn't have the window border around it anymore unless i hit f 11 twice... its annoying
[03:12] <ZING> and sometimes if i click on a link in a chat it makes the window border go away again
[03:12] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yah, however converting all your friends to skype just because you have linux?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: how about Google Talk instead?  ,but you would have to run a Windows virtual machine for it
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: since sadly Google haven't  ported it to Linux yet, if they ever will
[03:13] <_Whipper> !ot
[03:13] <_Whipper> lol
[03:13] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, well if you are going to talk vm.... yahoo works fine inside a vm
[03:13] <ZING> google talk is supported with pidgin
[03:13] <space_cadet> zing voice
[03:13] <keith_> It seems that the information dd reads from /dev/sda (or wherever) is not kept up to date and seems to be arbitrarily updated after a while. I tried the sync command, but this did not help. Does anyone know how to force the kernel to update what dd sees?
[03:13] <ZING> voice?
[03:13] <space_cadet> zing hence "talk"
[03:13] <sebsebseb> space_cadet:  yeah of course it does
[03:14] <space_cadet> lol
[03:14] <ZING> i just use spark to use my voice sorry
[03:14] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: a Windows vm for a voice app dosan't sound to bad
[03:14] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, it's just, there should be native linux support for yahoo voice, but yahoo decided to be mean and not provide any specs
[03:14] <Intrepid> Can someone tell me what I need to install to configure color schemes for KDE applications running in gnome?
[03:15] <_Whipper> i used skype in win & lin.. not much difference there..
[03:15] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: yeah well,  Yahoo may soon become MS as well,  just the CEO they had before said no, but that woman may say yes, if there's another offer.  however that's OT here
[03:15] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, the only problem I ran into was back in 8.04 and vbox (cant remember the ver)  there was lag, actually more like clicking between the vm and my sound card
[03:15] <metalforever> anyone here experienced with virtualbox and network
[03:15] <metalforever> ?
[03:15] <ythe1300> VB yeah'
[03:15] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yes it is.
[03:15] <ythe1300> what's up?
[03:16] <Svenstaro> metalforever, yes, whats the problem?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: maybe a vm for yahoo and google talk :D
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: then try and convert your freind to gt :d
[03:16] <metalforever> Alright, I am running windows xp under virtualbox in ubuntu
[03:16] <space_cadet> lol
[03:16] <metalforever> the wireless works
[03:16] <sebsebseb> space_cadet: and you can chat to them on pidgin on Ubuntu, when you don't want voice
[03:16] <metalforever> but the connection is shoddy
[03:16] <metalforever> and it drops
[03:16] <scream> What is the best backup system for ubuntu with GUI?
[03:16] <space_cadet> sebsebseb, yep
[03:16] <metalforever> multiple times, and i end up having to unplug and replug the adapter many times.
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !best |  scream
[03:16] <Svenstaro> metalforever, wait, the virtualbox itself iniates a wlan connection?
[03:17] <Flannel> !backup | scream
[03:17] <_Whipper> and then you have the little black box, called "phone"
[03:17] <metalforever> well, i have it set up to use the host connection
[03:17] <Svenstaro> metalforever, put my name in front of your replies or I wont see you all the time
[03:17] <metalforever> sure^.
[03:17] <space_cadet> Svenstaro, prolly just using a usb filter to give it to the vbox
[03:18] <scream> !sbackup
[03:18] <metalforever> Alright, settings in virtualbox are as follows
[03:18] <ythe1300> flyback
[03:18] <_Whipper> !rsync
[03:18] <space_cadet> metalforever, you should pastebin them
[03:18] <Svenstaro> metalforever, you dont have a virutalbox problem if its about wireless.
[03:18] <zloog> pizza
[03:18] <hustla> hey guys
[03:18] <space_cadet> !pastebin | metalforever
[03:18] <melik> whats the command to find the IP of my comp
[03:18] <hustla> i have display problem
[03:18] <Tophu> ok I had the nvidia 180.29 drivers installed from the website and I installed made the mistake of turning on the 177 drivers in the "hardware drivers" section no when I boot up "X" won't load :-( can anyone help me undo this?
- cable connected, Intel POR/1000 T Server, Host Interface wlan0
[03:18] <ythe1300> !flyback
[03:18] <hustla> i want my resolution to be 1024x786
[03:18] <_Whipper> melik:nvidia?
[03:18] <otm> tell me, internet people, what leads to a better career; mechanical engineering or computer science?
[03:18] <hustla> and am not getting that opton
- course it is.  Only have the problem when im using virtualbox
[03:19] <Flannel> otm: #ubuntu-offtopic not here, thnks.
[03:19] <metalforever> computer science
[03:19] <melik> whats _Whipper ?
[03:19] <zloog> melik: ifconfig
[03:19] <Tophu> I did ctrl+alt+f1 and did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:19] <Svenstaro> metalforever, you should probably scale that card down to intel pro desktop
[03:19] <metalforever> but it may be obsolete in a few years
[03:19] <ythe1300> otm: what do you like to do better?
[03:19] <zloog> melik: or just whatismyip.com if you want wan ip
[03:19] <melik> zloog, how about the external IP
- doesnt work then
[03:19] <hustla> helloooo
[03:19] <_Whipper> melik: sorry, wrong address :)
[03:19] <kd5zmc> hi
[03:19] <hustla> can u help me please
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !helpme
[03:19] <melik> yeah ifconfig gives my home network IP the 192.168.x.x
[03:19] <Svenstaro> metalforever, well you need the proper drivers of course, remember, its windows.
[03:19] <melik> but i want the external ip :/
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: hi and yes we can help
[03:20] <otm> ythe1300: never tried either before, but i've always kind of wanted to learn prgramming and learn about computers
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: probably
[03:20] <zloog> melik: Need it for a script?
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: just ask your question
[03:20] <zloog> melik: because whatismyip.com is easy to remeber if you dont
[03:20] <hustla> am not getting the option for my resolution to be 1024x786
[03:20] <hustla> d maximum is 800x600
- I tried using the Windows Xp interface to detect the and use the card, and I installed the drivers with the cd from the adapter, its still a no go.
[03:20] <Rotund> In Jaunty, how does a USB connection detection work?
[03:20] <lesterc> does anyone knows if ubuntu-install has any bugs against EFI-based machines? (I have a couple of Mac Pros here which one of them refuse to boot ubuntu)
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: did you intall the graphics card driver?
[03:20] <melik> yeah i know that; but id prefer a simple command.. :/
[03:20] <ythe1300> otm: well I think that you should do more research
[03:20] <Svenstaro> metalforever, get the drivers manually. It's Windows.
[03:20] <sebsebseb> hustla: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[03:21] <melik> i dont want to open firefox and open whatsmyip,org everytime
[03:21] <ythe1300> they are very different
  , What im saying is, i tried that.
[03:21] <Rotund> I'm having a problem with attaching a USB soundcard not even throwing a dmesg
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !jaunty |  Rotund
[03:21] <Svenstaro> melik, you can probably netcat to your router and get the IP-
[03:21] <Tophu> is there a way to undo the driver install from system > administration > hardware drivers (from the cmd line?)
[03:21] <hustla> hold let me check
[03:21] <april_> Hi all, I was wondering, if I was to use a backup .IMG file, and I wanted to install its contents in wine, would I need an image mounting program? if so, which is most compatible with WINE?
[03:21] <Rotund> sebsebseb, sorry
[03:21] <latit> melik: if you dont have static wont it change?
[03:21] <_Whipper> graph-drivers should be auto-inst. when booting from live-cd/dvd..
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Tophu: maybe, but  if you re boot your computer and go into recovery mode, you can restore X, and bye bye your driver
[03:21] <Svenstaro> metalforever, I mean, go to intel.com and download the drivers. Unstable connections are caused by bad drivers but not by VMs
[03:21] <otm> ythe1300: i've done loads, i find them both rather drole, but it's the only decent career path I see myself pursuing without having to take a year out
[03:21] <Pyles17> can someone help me with an intel 3945 wireless card that doesn't work?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[03:22] <Tophu> how do I get to recovery mode?
[03:22] <zloog> melik: there is no command for that that doesnt refrnce an internet commputer
[03:22] <metalforever> alright.  will try
[03:22] <metalforever> thanks.
[03:22] <hustla> no its not there
[03:22] <melik> aww allright
[03:22] <melik> ill prolly just write a bash script to get it from whatsmyip.org
[03:22] <melik> thanks a lot
[03:22] <Huufarted> clear
[03:22] <projkt4> hi, im having a problem installing nmap-4.85BETA has anyone been able to install it to 8.10
[03:22] <projkt4> ?
 no its not there
[03:22] <Pyles17> sebsebseb: thanks. but i tried that, it didn't help. the 3945 has problems, but they are all somewhat unique
[03:23] <_Whipper> melik: np, thats the way in this # :)
[03:23] <april_> How do I go about mounting an ISO in WINE?
[03:23] <zloog> melik:   if you absoulely need it. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-check-you-external-ip-address-from-the-command-line.html
[03:23] <sebsebseb> april_: ask in #winehq
[03:23] <april_> ah k, ty
[03:23] <Svenstaro> april_, you don't. You mount it on your system and access in wine.
[03:23] <ythe1300> otm: maybe you can take an intro to eng class at a local college, remember that it is not easy and both involve a good deal of math
[03:23] <space_cadet> april_, why do you want to mount an iso in wine?
[03:23] <_Whipper> seebseb: dont u have ANY other answers?
[03:23] <ythe1300> but they can both be very fun
[03:23] <april_> because multi disks install wont work with wine
[03:23] <Huufarted> Anybody here ever have an issue with SSH transfer speeds?  Trying to SFTP a file over gigabit and it only moves at 5-6 MB/sec.  When using Samba I push 50 MB/sec.  Any ideas?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> _Whipper: what was the issue again?
[03:23] <projkt4> after running ./config in the unpackaged folder i get no errors
[03:24] <_Whipper> "google or check it out from somewhere else.." :P
[03:24] <keith_> How do the files in /dev work? I am having trouble finding out details.
[03:24] <april_> multi disc*
[03:24] <space_cadet> april_, aah   ask winehq
[03:24] <otm> ythe1300: I think I'm past that stage now, i've confirmed my offer at the uni lol
[03:24] <april_> ah k, ty very much
[03:24] <otm> ythe1300: just having doubts
[03:24] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, sshfs is for security not high speed. CPU speed is critical for sshfs.
[03:24] <zloog> keith: What kind of information do you need?
[03:24] <Tophu> www.ipchicken.com to get external ip address
[03:24] <projkt4> but when i run make i get an error "make[1]: g++: Command not found"
[03:24] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, gotcha.  Any recommendations for moving at max bandwidth?
[03:24] <ythe1300> otm: anyway you should not put your life in the hands of someone on IRC :)
[03:24] <zloog> projkt: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:24] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, since it's a LAN, I think I'll just use standard FTP
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: but I have meet a lot of fun peole in the few eng classes I have taken so far.
[03:25] <otm> ythe1300: you people are good teachers
[03:25] <keith_> zloog: Well, it seems that when reading directly from a device driver (eg. /dev/sdc2) the information is not always current with what is shown by nautilus, ls, etc. So I am wondering how these devices actually work.
[03:25] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, you could manually adjust the encryption level but honestly, if you're not moving files from russia to japan, it isn't forth using anything else than maybe SFTP or HTTPS.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> !ot
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: and am hving fun in programing.
[03:25] <ythe1300> otm: ?
[03:25] <_Whipper> !lol
[03:25] <Flannel> ythe1300: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:26] <ythe1300> k
[03:26] <_Whipper> !otm
[03:26] <Huufarted> svenstaro, that was SFTP.  SFTP is the transfer protocol with SSH
[03:26] <Flannel> _Whipper: Please stop that.
[03:26] <projkt4> thank you  zloog. i'll try that now
[03:26] <Huufarted> svenstaro, but I have it taken care of using FTP.  :)  50 MB/sec again.
[03:26] <hustla> can anyone give me their xorg file
[03:26] <otm> !_Whipper
[03:27] <sebsebseb> hustla: if someone gives you there xorg file, it may have a differnet setting, and so not be any good for your card
[03:27] <_Whipper> Flannel: my point was to sebseb.. nev mind..
[03:27] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, you are right of course, I hought you were using SCP (which you could try in this case).
[03:27] <matty_b> does anyone know which vim ubuntu comes with?
[03:27] <matty_b> is it vim-full, or just vim?
[03:27] <hustla> yeah but my xorg file is blank
[03:27] <Svenstaro> matty_b, vim-tiny
[03:27] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, I'll try SCP but I figure the speed will be the same.
[03:27] <Flannel> matty_b: it's vim-tiny, you want to install "vim" to get a real vim.  vim-full includes a GUI (gvim)
[03:27] <keith_> I don't like vim-tiny
[03:27] <Huufarted> Svenstaro: give me a minute, I'll let you know if there's a speed diff.
[03:27] <matty_b> alright thanks.
[03:27] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, as I said, if security isn't critical, just use samba, nfs, ftp, http, wahtever.
[03:27] <Pupuser402-1> get vim-full, uninstall all the other "vim's"
[03:28] <Huufarted> Svenstaro, not possible since one's a Winblows machine.  No big deal, it's on a LAN so FTP will work fine.
[03:28] <matty_b> on the command line, how might i find out which vims i have installed in order to remove them?
[03:28] <Svenstaro> Pupuser402-1, no need, they conflict anyway.
[03:28] <Flannel> matty_b: dpkg -l | grep vim
[03:29] <matty_b> may be a dumb question, but how does running 'vim' run 'vim-tiny'?
[03:29] <Huufarted> Svenstaro: SCP is also poor with the transfer speeds.  Again, I'm not worried about it.  Was just hoping to use ssh strictly, but it looks like I'll have to hang onto FTP.
[03:29] <matty_b> it's not aliased, afaik
[03:29] <projkt4> zloog; it looks like that did the trick, what was that package?
[03:29] <_Whipper> matty_b: not at all dumb q
[03:29] <hustla> someone please send me the xorg file
[03:29] <Huufarted> matty_b:  'which vim'
[03:29] <hustla> i jus wanna try it
[03:30] <Svenstaro> Huufarted, supposedly Intel's most recent Xeon class processors are capable of encryption optimization if you really want sftp :)
[03:30] <Flannel> !nickspam > americasmellslik
[03:30] <Huufarted> Svenstaro: lol nah....  Intel Atom CPU works perfectly fine for me as a file server!  ;P
[03:30] <durt> hustla, what do need to custom configure?
[03:31] <hustla> i have nothing in my xorg file
[03:31] <matty_b> Huufarted: i type 'vim', and it runs vim-tiny, as the package 'vim' isn't installed. i'm wondering how this is done.
[03:31] <Huufarted> matty_b: gotcha.
[03:31] <durt> hustla, that's normal, what doesn't work?
[03:31] <hustla> the grafix
[03:31] <hustla> d resolution
[03:32] <zloog> projkt4: you were missing the c++ compiler. the package is just a bunch of common tools for compiling things from source
[03:32] <Huufarted> matty_b: have you checked the aliases currently in use?
[03:32] <Svenstaro> matty_b, /usr/bin/vim-tiny was symlinked to /usr/bin/vim
[03:32] <keith_> What happens when someone writes to /dev/null? Where does the input go? Or when someone reads from /dev/random? Where does the output come from?
[03:32] <Huufarted> matty_b: there ya go
[03:32] <durt> !resolution | hustla
[03:32] <matty_b> aha, thanks Svenstaro.
[03:32] <proj3ct2501> anyone here ever tried to setup remote desktop??  over the internet.  could use some help here, would be most appreciated.  thanks!
[03:32] <zloog> keith: the answer to both questions is nowhere
[03:32] <Flannel> keith_: /dev/null just... goes nowhere.  random and urandom read from the random sources.
[03:33] <durt> hustla, the last link
[03:33] <Svenstaro> keith_, null makes it disappear in the void of your kernel within one tick and random shows you every tick's gibberish of your kernel.
[03:33] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: which computer do you want to conenct to?
[03:33] <tonsofpcs> anyone know of a software vision mixer / production switcher?
[03:33] <pyrak> help with viewing streaming quicktime in firefox?
[03:33] <_law_> hi all :)
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !multimedia | pyrak
[03:34] <projkt4> when i run nmap now i get "bash: /usr/bin/nmap: No such file or directory"
[03:34] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: i have ubuntu setup on my laptop at home, and i travel with an eepc, eeebuntu running.  need to connect to it over the net to access it, etc
[03:34] <Svenstaro> pyrak, mplayer or vlc or totem mozilla plugin
[03:34] <projkt4> i know this has to do with a script, but i cannot remember where that script is
[03:34] <keith_> zloog, Flannel, Svenstaro, But what makes it do that? Is it an inherent part of the kernel? Is there programming somewhere that handles that?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: ok you want to do VNC over SSH
[03:34] <Svenstaro> keith_, yes
[03:34] <Flannel> keith_: `man random` gives you some more detail
[03:34] <sebsebseb> !vnc | proj3ct2501
[03:35] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: well, either is fine, just need to get it up and running, ideally secure, lol
[03:35] <matty_b> is there any way to list packages that i've installed above and beyond what came with the original install?
[03:35] <abhra> hi
[03:35] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: ok, ill check out that link ^_^
[03:35] <zloog> keith_: Yes to both. Linux uses a monolitic kernel meaning that the drivers all live within the kernel. both of those files are considered devices
[03:35] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: yeah that link should help, and I know how to do  VNC over SSH :)
[03:35] <chrisrio> wow, my workmates are assholes
[03:36] <melik> zloog, that script didnt work
[03:36] <matty_b> i've been keeping a text file with a list of what i install for when i need to reformat, but it's not automatic.
[03:36] <sebsebseb> !ot | chrisrio
[03:36] <sebsebseb> :D
[03:36] <melik> i wrote this instead.. http://omploader.org/vMWdyZA/pasta
[03:36] <Flannel> chrisrio: Please mind your language, and keep non-support topics out of the channel, thanks.
[03:36] <_Whipper> chrisrio: arent we all..
[03:36] <abhra> i've a question.could i ask it here?
[03:36] <Svenstaro> !ask | abhra
[03:36] <keith_> zloog: is it compiled into the kernel? or would it be some sort of module?
[03:37] <keith_> zloog: What if I wanted to create a "device" that was identical in behavior to /dev/null, how would that be done?
[03:37] <hhp2k> Hey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?
[03:37] <zloog> keith_:  could be either, but I belive both of those are in the vanilla kernel
[03:37] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: cool, ill give the article a read and see how it fgoes, hopefully i can set it up from that point :)
[03:37] <Svenstaro> keith_, get the kernel from kernel.org, look for a device driver file called zero or null and look at it.
[03:38] <asdf_n00b> I've got an issue with my MX500 laser keyboard & Mouse combo.  I have to disconnect and reconnect the bluetooth dongle everytime I reboot.  I know it's a known issue cause I've had it before, I just can't remember if there's a quick fix for it
[03:38] <_Whipper> asdf_n00b: i remember you
[03:38] <zloog> keith_: Thats the kind of thing you would want a book on http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=linux+device+drivers+3rd+edition&x=0&y=0&sprefix=linux+dev
[03:38] <Svenstaro> keith_, there are plently of tutorials for writing kernel device drivers
[03:38] <abhra> how to save the opened channels in xchat while closing it?
[03:38] <hustla> durt:
[03:38] <hustla> repeat what u said
[03:39] <hustla> wen i typed that thing it jus shut down d pc'
[03:39] <keith_> Svenstaro, zloog, I don't specifically want to write a driver, I am just trying to understand how they work. Though a tutorial or book may help accomplish that.
[03:40] <abhra> i mean when i reopen it i want to be logged in automatically in the last opened servers
[03:40] <Svenstaro> keith_, it's actually simpler than you think.
[03:40] <asdf_n00b> anyone have an idea? maybe run a command at startup that does the same thing as unplugging/replugging the usb dongle?
[03:40] <monkeyb> Is there a way I can just download the files needed for an upgrade to jaunty? (i.e. apt-get? I know there is an option, but not sure if that path is supported for ubuntu)
[03:41] <cam-> hey guys.. got a little problem in the CLI.. i'm 99.9% sure that ubuntu supports this ethernet chipset out of the box.. but for whatever reason its not setting up a device for it
[03:41] <Flannel> monkeyb: You can, yes.  Jaunty is still a development version, you should ask for details in #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <keith_> Svenstaro: The question that is actually plaguing me is what happens when I read from /dev/sdc2, for example. Does it read directly from the drive? or is there some indirection or abstraction involved?
[03:41] <matty_b> alright i've read the dpkg and dpkg-query man pages. is there any way to see what packages i've installed/removed since i first installed ubuntu?
[03:42] <armence1>  Hi all, I have this CSV file which when I open with either the spreadsheet program or vim displays the information with no problem, but when I try to open the same file with gEdit I get gibberish, some of it in asian characters... Can anyone help me figure out what is going on?
[03:42] <tonsofpcs> armence1: don't use gedit?
[03:42] <cam-> the chipset according to lspci is an AMD 79c970, which is a the virtual chipset under ESXi... i've setup ubuntu under ESX before no problems!!
[03:42] <Svenstaro> keith_, well it can't read directly from the drive. I'm not a low-level developer but I know that *how* files are read depends a lot on your file system, the device driver, the kernel.
[03:43] <armence1> tonsofpcs: Well, the problem, is that I need to make sure the problem is not actually with the file... Because if it is there is a problem with the program that is generating it
[03:43] <abhra> monkeyb press alt+f2 and enter "update-manager -d" (without the quotes)
[03:43] <EtFb> I've tried and failed twice now to create a VMWare virtual machine running Xubuntu.  It does the installation, then I restart and it just sits there.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:43] <tonsofpcs> armence1: try a different file?
[03:43] <Svenstaro> keith_, you can try directly reading from your drive: sudo cat /dev/sda > ~/gibberish and see what it looks like
[03:43] <Svenstaro> EtFb, are you running 64bit by any chance?
[03:43] <keith_> Svenstaro: I am doing so with dd, but the information it is reading does not seem to be up to date with recent drive changes.
[03:44] <marcosRz> Why does Evince dont play a gif file?
[03:44] <GeorgeAScott> hi. i'm wondering if there's any way to start the postfix config that runs after you apt-get it... my /etc/postfiz/main.cf is empty
[03:44] <EtFb> Svenstaro: Host is 32 bit WinXP although I believe this is an AMD64 processor, but everything is 32 bit apart from that.
[03:44] <ganymede> marcosRz, try playing it in firefox
[03:44] <armence1> tonsofpcs: That doesn't solve my problem, if a different file works, then it says nothing about the ability of my program to generate that original file...
[03:44] <tech0007> im on xubuntu, & I always get "fbsetbg: something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. run 'display ...blah blah from an exterm" this msg never goes away...any suggestion?
[03:44] <marcosRz> ganymede, I know but I tough evince played :X
[03:44] <Svenstaro> EtFb, try enabling / disabling some of the vmware guest extensions like APIC, I know thats a big issue with vmware.
[03:45] <tonsofpcs> armence1: if a different file doesn't work in the viewer, from a different source, the viewer is screwed up
[03:45] <armence1> tonsofpcs: Oh, I tried that, the viewer appears to work fine...
[03:45] <epalm> ubuntu 8.10: i'm using synaptic to uninstall a few items.  these items, when initially installed, also installed extra files they depended on.  what happens to those now?  it's possible that nothing relies on them anymore.  how can i manage this?
[03:45] <matty_b> apt-get autoremove, i believe
[03:46] <hhp2k> ﻿Hey everyone :) In the default Hardy installation, how do you access the compiz config menu (terminal or otherwise)?
[03:46] <Faithman> unsure
[03:46] <quit> I'm reluctant to update my ubuntu build :\ I've installed Ubuntu for the third time in my life - And I've been using it for two weeks only. Seemingly, everytime I update it something goes horrible wrong.
[03:47] <matty_b> epalm: 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[03:47] <yoasdf> !codecs
[03:47] <cam-> ummm.. what's more interesting is that the kernel module for my ethernet chipset is being loaded according to lsmod.. but still, no ethernet device in /dev! :(
[03:48] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[03:48] <EtFb> Svenstaro: I can't see any mention of APIC anywhere in the VMWare console.
[03:48] <mistya> hi there!
[03:49] <RedMushroom> can anybody give me a crash course on how to use smart boot manager? i thought it was just a lone exe file, but it's turning out to be more complex, and i don't understand
[03:49] <sebsebseb> quit: use 8.04  and then you don't really need to upgrade untill the next long term suppourt
[03:49] <cam-> anyone know why i wouldnt have a network device ? :/
[03:50] <quit> sebsebseb, How do I check what version I'm runing again? :P
[03:50] <tritium> quit: lsb_release -a
[03:50] <axisys> my laptop screen keep going to dim and I use the function key to add light.. it happends when it runs on battery.. how do I disable this behavior?
[03:50] <RedMushroom> what's DJGPP, and why do i need it to run sbm with dos?
[03:50] <sebsebseb> quit: yeah what the op said
[03:51] <alevine> what's the command that will auto-reguess your xorg.conf?
[03:51] <quit> I have 8.10 - Should I downgrade?
[03:51] <theDigitalAngel> Java applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?
[03:51] <danbhfive> quit: what problems are you having?
[03:51] <EtFb> RedMushroom: It's a port of the gnu toolchain to Windows, a bit like Cygwin.
[03:51] <sebsebseb> quit: LTS releases aren't exactly a downgrade, because they are LTS.
[03:51] <cam-> theDigitalAngel: no proxy? because java apps dont pay attention to the system proxy
[03:51] <EtFb> quit: I used Kubuntu 8.10 for a few weeks and downgraded happily when I saw what a disaster KDE4 was.
[03:51] <nado> axisys, System->Preferences->Power Management
[03:51] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: How do I set java specific proxy?
[03:52] <RedMushroom> EtFb: what do i do with it once i download it?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: ah ha I see
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: you don't like KDE4 :d
[03:52] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: http_proxy wont work I guess in that case ...
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: 8.04 is the last version that offers both KDE3 and 4 from the repo
[03:52] <cam-> right click the java app i think, under there is properties.. all i know is you need to set it in Java it doesnt pay attention to http_proxy
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: so yes if you want KDE4 put 8.04 on
[03:52] <nado> axisys, go to On Battery Power and make the changes you want
[03:52] <sebsebseb> quit: I meant KDE3
[03:52] <cam-> same with flash :/
[03:52] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: Lemme try that ...
[03:53] <axisys> nado: i dont have the On Battery.. only On AC Power and General
[03:53] <sebsebseb> quit: and then instead of installing the whole of KDE4  you could just install  some of  the  better KDE4 apps  and use in Gnome/KDE3  in 8.04.  once you got the KDE4 libs on
[03:53] <codeshah> hey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?
[03:53] <axisys> nado: is it because I am running on battery?
[03:53] <quit> danbhfive: None really, it's just that everytime I upgrade something goes wrong - Once firefox stopped working, today my resolution went down and try as I may I couldnt get it back up - When I restarted it would change at random from a640 to 800
[03:53] <quit> That sort of stuff
[03:54] <sebsebseb> quit: 8.04 has another two years of suppourt, so :D
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: Nothing there. Any way to do that using command line?
[03:54] <axisys> nado: hmm.. interesting!
[03:54] <cam-> anyone know why i wouldnt have a ethernet device (eth*) in /dev. Kernel module is loaded accorded to lsmod and the chipset is supported
[03:54] <danbhfive> quit: yeah, xorg has been a difficult upgrade...
[03:54] <codeshah> hey guys, I am setting up a server @ home for a little wiki, nothing serious, and other test items... I already have an ubuntu desktop on my other laptop for working. Should I go with ubuntu for server or centos?
[03:54] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: hey that looks good.  i will try that whenn i get home, i have to configure it from there.  the only thing is though, it seems a little difficult to setup.  essentially all i need is to have full access to that laptop from anywhere i connecct from
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: There used to be a nice java control panel
[03:54] <april_> does anyone know how i can access a windows computer on my wireless network, i just want to file share ^__^
[03:54] <axisys> nado: now after second try it shows up
[03:54] <n8tuser> codeshah -> toss a coin
[03:54] <kitche> cam-: is it ethernet device?
[03:54] <theDigitalAngel> cam-: I forgot the name of the package ...
[03:54] <sebsebseb> proj3ct2501: yeah the lap top your connecting to needs an SSH account
[03:55] <nado> axisys, strange :)
[03:55] <cam-> needs to be in the CLI, so no network-manager :(
[03:55] <sebsebseb> codeshah: you can use Ubuntu Desktop and put on the server stuff there
[03:55] <projkt4> if i put an executable file in /user/local/bin i should be able to run that executable from anywhere in the system correct?
[03:55] <kitche> cam-: well if you do not have a eth0 as ifconfig tells you then the device is not seen or is not supported by linux what card is it?
[03:55] <proj3ct2501> sebsebseb: yah, the dynamic thing is messing me up though, i just created an account on dynDNS, i think i can use that
[03:55] <sebsebseb> quit:  completly differnet version from 8.04  of xorg in 8.10
[03:55] <codeshah> sebsebseb, thanks
[03:55] <april_> never mine =] i found it
[03:56] <cam-> kitche: it
[03:56] <kitche> cam-: ? is that device or something
[03:56] <cam-> kitche: its a virtual machine, the kernel module is loaded, but there is no /dev/eth* for it
[03:57] <kitche> cam-: what is the virtual machine program your using?
[03:57] <n8tuser> cam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth0
[03:57] <cam-> the chipset is supported.. ive installed ubuntu under vmware esx before and its worked fine.. this machine is copied from another esx server
[03:57] <theDigitalAngel> Java applications are unable to connect to the net under Intrepid ... Any ideas?
[03:57] <projkt4> like if i run "ifconfig" from any directory and it works, and i can tab complete that command, how do i add to the list of apps that i can tab-complete/run from anywhere
[03:57] <skate2_> is it apt-get remove or apt-get uninstall, to remove software?
[03:57] <kitche> cam-: what does ifconfig -a tell you
[03:57] <EtFb> RedMushroom: No idea, sorry.  I was just identifying the acronym.  DJGPP is like 15 years old; I'm surprised anyone still bothers with it.
[03:57] <durt> skate2_, the first
[03:57] <cam-> now its loading the kernel module but its not creating the ethernet device
[03:57] <n8tuser> projkt4 -> look around for a tab_complete script
[03:57] <RedMushroom> if i type sbminst -t us -d 0 at the dos prompt, and press enter, what will it do?
[03:57] <cam-> *checks*
[03:58] <projkt4> i don't neccessarily want to just tab-complete
[03:58] <EtFb> Bother - how do I boot in recovery mode using a Live CD?  I need to figure out why my Xubuntu installation is b0rked.
[03:58] <cam-> ok.. i do appologise its there.. its now named itself eth2.. was there ever a /dev/eth* ? or am i just stupid?
[03:58] <n8tuser> cam- -> even for regular interfaces not even a vm, there are no such thing as /dev/eth*
[03:59] <RedMushroom> do i need to have any other files to use with sbminst.exe?
[03:59] <zloog> projkt4: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/316
[03:59] <cam-> hrmm.. maybe im thinking of another distro? i thought there was a /dev for it.. thanks anyway
[03:59] <sebsebseb> quit  oh  no wonder I didn't get a reply to my KDE3/4  stuff,  I thought you said  the thing about KDE4 being a disaster, but it was EtFb
[03:59] <ROFLBERRY> Welcome to the internets! :D
[03:59] <CertifiedBus> does anyone have much experience with Synergy?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> EtFb: so your running 8.04 with KDE3?
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> Yes, we create synergy everyday here on the internets!
[04:00] <durt> CertifiedBus, a little
[04:00] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Yeah, I used it and hated it.  YMMV of course, but I had no patience for it.
[04:00] <fearful> Stupid question but can conficker harm linux?
[04:00] <Flannel> ROFLBERRY: How can we help you today?
[04:00] <n8tuser> CertifiedBus -> my experience sofar, it has not work yet
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> lol
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> I got it to work
[04:00] <sebsebseb> EtFb: what's  YMMV?
[04:00] <n8tuser> fearful -> wait for the answer tomorrow
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> I am trying to figure out how I can internet.
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> but it randomly discons the client
[04:00] <matty_b> your mileage may vary
[04:00] <fearful> n8tuser, ;)
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> well...
[04:00] <durt> fearful, not in the way you think it can
[04:00] <ROFLBERRY> I accidentally my whole hard drive. :(
[04:00] <fearful> durt, explain?
[04:00] <CertifiedBus> seems to be when there is inactivity
[04:00] <EtFb> !ops
[04:00] <Flannel> EtFb: Hmm?
[04:01] <EtFb> NEver mind, he's gone.  Did you do that?
[04:01] <CertifiedBus> @durt does the config for whether or not a client must respond stay on the server or client?
[04:01] <durt> fearful, it won't execute o a linux box but if it's get's going like people think it will it can ddos anything. And this is ot.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> EtFb: yeah he did, but now you told every op to look here :d
[04:01] <kravlin> my network gives me a connected then disconnected not and when i run anything to try to make it work it  tells me that it can't find host (on another computer) can someone help?
[04:01] <tritium> EtFb: who's gone?
[04:02] <fearful> durt, I see
[04:02] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Sorry.  Don't know how else to get an op's attention.  is there a better way (ie less intrusive)?
[04:02] <cam-> theDigitalAngel: try  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ControlPanel
[04:02] <durt> CertifiedBus, you mean quicksynergy or synergy.conf?
[04:02] <cam-> just a guess.. i just did a quick google for you
[04:02] <sebsebseb> EtFb: using their name
[04:02] <Flannel> EtFb: you can alert us in #ubuntu-ops, yes.
[04:02] <n8tuser> projkt4 -> oh there is /etc/bash_completion script
[04:02] <abhra> !seek borderkind
[04:03] <CertifiedBus> @durt I used quicksynergy initially but followed the instructions from SF to get it to boot automatically so I can control the client at login and after
[04:03] <EtFb> sebsebseb: The chat program I'm using doesn't seem to show who's an op.
[04:03] <sebsebseb> EtFb: I think they hide it
[04:03] <sebsebseb> EtFb: sort of
[04:03] <ROFLBERRIES> Flannel, you're a rude little cock sucker.  Fuck you and the dildo you rode in on.
[04:03] <Sal--> Can anyone help me figure out why I can't connect to my samba server? Here goes my config: http://pastebin.com/dab3fec9
[04:03] <n8tuser> kravlin -> what have you done to troubleshoot?
[04:03] <durt> CertifiedBus, did you configure /etc/synergy.conf. There's ana example in /usr/share/doc/synergy/examples
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ok don't let that guy in soon again, if he complains in ubuntu-ops
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: that was a pretty nasty one
[04:04] <abhra> xhat help needed
[04:04] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Clearly there are things I have no idea about with IRC...
[04:04] <sebsebseb> EtFb: same here
[04:04] <kravlin> n8tuser: well, we isolated it to this laptop through trying different ways, my wireless works but i need wired. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot.
[04:05] <techqber1> How can I suspend ubuntu 8.10 from fluxbox?
[04:05] <CertifiedBus> @durt stay tuned one sec
[04:05] <sebsebseb> EtFb: which client?
[04:05] <EtFb> sebsebseb: KVIrc. Sitting here at work on my Windoze box trying to build a Xunbuntu VM...
[04:06] <n8tuser> kravlin -> okay, can you describe and elaborate on your network layout? what is connected to what? what devices?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> EtFb: not sure about that cient, but  google xchat 2 and that's  meant to be a good one for Windohs
[04:06] <Sal--> any help?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> !ask
[04:06] <CertifiedBus> @durt hmm, cant find it but I am wondering will it matter if ubuntu is the client
[04:06] <CertifiedBus> vista is the server
[04:07] <Sal--> sebsebseb, i aked several times
[04:07] <durt> CertifiedBus, no just start synergyc with vista's IP.
[04:07] <Sal--> asked even
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Sal--: my bad, I missed it, just saw that, ignore that one then
[04:07] <EtFb> sebsebseb: Naah, this is good enough.  I'll just haunt #ubuntu-ops next time a bot comes calling, though with this channel I guess the ops are pretty focused so I don't need to, since they usually notice anyway.
[04:07] <alevine> how can I set up my computer to use the intel driver for my onboard-graphics card?
[04:07] <EtFb> Now... what's the command to fix/install grub on a machine that's had it damaged somehow?
[04:08] <kravlin> n8tuser: i'm on a school network, called the network tech etc and everything's running fine on their side. i have 3 computers the other 2 have no problems. they're all on a switch. they think it's gotta be something on my side (which is wholly possible.) I've always kinda been wary of networking on ubuntu but my wireless works fine. it's just my wired that doesn't.
[04:08] <sebsebseb> !grub
[04:08] <disappearedng> is there a "tab" option in lynx?
[04:08] <CertifiedBus> @ durt is there a way to stop the server from auto disconnecting clients? I know there is a config setting but I thought it was off by default
[04:08] <sebsebseb> EtFb: so yeah the how to's,  but you can overwrite Grub with a new one
[04:08] <luddite> hi all - i upgraded 8.10 this morning and also removed pulse audio. now after reboot i hit the login screen and a dialogue opens that says "Authentication Failed". i hit ok - and it pops up again without giving me a chance to enter my password ever. It looks like its trying to auto-login as the single user is selected. Please helps - its basically bricked the laptop.
[04:09] <n8tuser> kravlin -> okay do this, post in pastebin your    ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <durt> CertifiedBus, sorry, never used synergy on windows.
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> @durt, aha
[04:09] <ZykoticK9> disappearedng, i've never seen a "tab" function in any of the test based browsers...
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> @durt thanks for the info though
[04:09] <CertifiedBus> I mean, it works flawlessly right now
[04:10] <CertifiedBus> typing this from my Vista machine
[04:10] <n8tuser> luddite -> you have your livecd still? boot from it to recover
[04:10] <kravlin> n8tuser: i can't there's no wireless here on campus. they won't let us set up wireless in our dorm rooms. i'm using another computer.
[04:10] <luddite> n8tuser - i can do get into the console easily enough
[04:10] <luddite> so i can fix it there
[04:11] <n8tuser> kravlin -> then you have to copy the results, or put it in a usb dongle to transfer over then post
[04:11] <n8tuser> luddite -> if you can get into a console, you can log in okay?
[04:11] <EtFb> Damn, the installation must be really frakked.  I can't get grub to do anything with that virtual hard disk.
[04:12] <Sal--> i'm really in a weird situation cause i can get the mount list locally from smbclient, but when i run smbclient outside the network, i can't seem to get it :(
[04:12] <Ingsoc> anyone got a mirror for the nmap script to check for conficker?
[04:12] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys whats the package i have to install in 9.04 to get the opensource ati catalyst drivers?
[04:12] <Ingsoc> main sites down
[04:12] <luddite> n8user - well yes- but it auto logs the user in. Ive never set auto login up before so dont know why its doing that.
[04:12] <Flannel> ForzaPalermo: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[04:12] <n8tuser> Ingsoc -> you cant wait for one more day? :P
[04:12] <Flannel> Ingsoc: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussion, thanks.
[04:13] <n8tuser> luddite -> look around in /etc/pam.d   for rules that allow auto login
[04:13] <Sal--> cmonnnn someone throw me a bone
[04:13] <luddite> n8tuser - ok - will do.
[04:13] <disappearedng> Any1 here uses lynx?>
[04:13] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: I have used it
[04:14] <techqber1> How can I suspend ubuntu 8.10 from fluxbox?
[04:14] <n8tuser> Sal-- -> as a minimum, see if you can ping the remote hosts
[04:14] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: it's fun,  but limited in what it can do, since only a text browser, by the way you may want to try links as well
[04:14] <Sal--> n8tuser, sure
[04:14] <Sal--> i can even see that the port are open as well
[04:14] <Sal--> connecting, i can't ;l
[04:14] <Sal--> i do have an error in my syslog
[04:14] <Sal--> care to take a look?
[04:14] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: something to do with tab and lynx, was your issue?
[04:14] <n8tuser> Sal-- -> go ahead and post it in pastebin, well see
[04:14] <disappearedng> yeah
[04:15] <disappearedng> sebsebseb: well is it possible to use tabs?
[04:15] <disappearedng> i think it's super fun
[04:15] <zloog> techqber1: sudo echo -n S3 >/sys/power/state should work for shutting down from command line
[04:15] <sebsebseb> disappearedng: since I haven't  used lynx for such a long time,  I can't really help, and don't want to re install it right now, but  wait around and there will probably be someone else
[04:15] <Mr_Orange> Who is ready to ride out Conficker with me? I dare you all to not turn off your computers!
[04:15] <zloog> techqber1: just alias that and bind it to a menu somewhere
[04:15] <disappearedng> ok thx sebsebseb
[04:15] <n8tuser> zloog -> not a good idea without syncing your system first
[04:15] <mib_qoqp6f> anyone know where mailutils variables need to be set?
[04:16] <Sal--> http://pastebin.com/d956f50a -- errors from syslog;;;;;;;;;;; http://pastebin.com/dab3fec9 ---- config
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Mr_Orange: I think a better channel to ask that would be in #windows  if any channel here on Freenode, but in this one it is rather off topic, considering that Conflicker does not infect  Linux
[04:16] <zloog> n8tuser: what do you mean?
[04:16] <zloog> n8tuser: I wouldnt do it with unsaved files open but is there another danger?
[04:17] <IAmWill> with mencoder, how do i rip a DVD raw, I have the disk, and I am setting up a mythTV box, I want no compression, just raw video
[04:17] <Sal--> if I run: smbclient -L dolox.com -U%  locally on the same system thats hosting the samba server i get the listing fine no problem, but when i run it on a computer outside the network, such as  my home computer, i get a connection failed
[04:17] <n29> Woohoo Ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:17] <Sal--> well it timesout
[04:17] <n8tuser> Sal-- -> i took a peek and cant really understand what the error is about
[04:17] <hhp2k> ﻿Hey everyone :) I'm having a particular issue with Compiz-Fusion on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy).  I'm trying to follow this tutorial: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html and while in the "Windows Decorations" Plugin of the Compiz Settings Manager, it asks me to add the line "!title=trans" to the Window Decorations field.  This is supposed to set a rule for a particularly named 
[04:17] <luddite> n8tuser : can i rename the gdm-autologin file ? will it kill anything?
[04:17] <steffanm> Sal-- -> Most likely you have a port or ports blocked
[04:18] <Sal--> staffanm
[04:18] <n8tuser> zloog -> shutting down a nix* system without sync  is a bad practice
[04:18] <Sal--> both ports are open friend
[04:18] <Sal--> i've checked
[04:18] <steffanm> For which values of 'both'?
[04:18] <Sal--> 445 and 139 ?
[04:18] <n8tuser> luddite -> it should not, just remember the name
[04:18] <Izinucs> Where is my error restarting cups.. I did sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart and I get command not found.
[04:18] <kevin7kal> is there a gnome app that will take a set of flac files and create an iso for burning a music cd?
[04:19] <Sal--> any other ideas?
[04:19] <luddite> ok - thatnks- trying now
[04:19] <zloog> n8tuser: huh, thanks for the tip
[04:19] <steffanm> Let me run it here and see what it does...
[04:19] <n8tuser> Izinucs -> cupsys  not cups
[04:19] <Sal--> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[04:19] <Izinucs> n8tuser: ah.. thanks
[04:19] <Sal--> plug in the ip & ports
[04:20] <jimisrvrox> Hey guys I have my router across the house and I have a box in the bedroom that does not get hardly any reception at all and has issues staying connected at all. Seems like the signal is great but once you get online I only get like 2 bars of connectivity. Is there a way that I can make an old box like an access point so that maybe my other pc's can get better reception? Or is there other...
[04:20] <jimisrvrox> ...things that I can do?
[04:20] <steffanm> You're showing the open ports on the client or the server side?
[04:21] <Sal--> server side
[04:21] <steffanm> Any firewalling going on on the client side?
[04:21] <luddite> n8tuser : i commented out the pam lines and it still tries to autologin with a decreasing timer on retry- but i can still login now. so thats sort of fixed. thatnks
[04:21] <Sal--> i've connected to samba shares many times from my home computer
[04:21] <Sal--> more than likely not
[04:21] <Sal--> can you connect
[04:21] <durt> jimisrvrox, depends on what hardware you have
[04:21] <pretender> does anybody know how to save a rmtp streaming video
[04:22] <Sal--> try to connect smb://ip/sal
[04:22] <Sal--> tell me if it prompts you for a pass
[04:22] <Sal--> that way we know for sure it's not me client side, even though i'm pretty sure it's not
[04:22] <kevin7kal> the trick is that there are a set of flac files but I have no cd burner, so I want to generate an iso to burn this audio cd and move the iso to another system that actually has access to the cdburner
[04:22] <steffanm> I'm pretty sure that //ip won't resolve for me :)
[04:23] <Sal--> use hte ip from the pastebin
[04:23] <Sal--> of course :l
[04:23] <Sal--> stranger thing is i don't see any connection attempts in the syslog
[04:23] <Sal--> but that may be normal, i might have to jack up the logging on this
[04:23] <Sal--> not sure if i can though
[04:24] <steffanm> I just tried and got a logon failure message.  Do you see the attempt?
[04:24] <Sal--> nope
[04:25] <Chaorain> !btnx
[04:25] <Sal--> i have syslog set to 1
[04:25] <Sal--> should it be at 5 or something?
[04:25] <mib_wgs2a9> why isnt linux so full of security risks, since it open source, wouldnt it be easy to find all the loop holes and crack in?
[04:25] <Chaorain> is there a replacement for btnx in 8.10?
[04:25] <Sal--> i'm presuming it's supressing errors/connections
[04:25] <Pantlessjim> I have a question about dual booting and accessing files on my windows 'partition.' Is there anyone who could help? I'd appreciate it.
[04:25] <Sal--> cause even if i connect locally, i dont see it logged
[04:26] <steffanm> You control both sides, right?
[04:26] <steffanm> Do you have a log.smbd file?
[04:26] <kravlin> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m211ce34a
[04:26] <Sal--> steffanm, yes and yes
[04:27] <mib_wgs2a9> Pantlessjim: i currently dual boot
[04:27] <quit> How do I know if I have a 64bit architecture or not?
[04:27] <Sal--> steffanm, can i jack up the syslog setting to 5
[04:27] <steffanm> Between that & setting a higher debug level you should see *something*
[04:27] <steffanm> Try 5
[04:27] <Sal--> so it will show me more verbose logging?
[04:27] <Sal--> yeah thats what im figuring
[04:27] <steffanm> It should
[04:27] <Sal--> 1 second
[04:27] <Pantlessjim> Ah great. Mind if I pick your brain mib_wgs2a9?
[04:27] <mib_wgs2a9> np
[04:27] <jimisrvrox> durt: what do you mean by what hardware?
[04:28] <wanna_learn_more> hi,how to install kernel source for my kernel?
[04:28] <n8tuser> kravlin -> try this,  sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0  and then do ifconfig  to see if an ip address is assigned to your eth0
[04:28] <wanna_learn_more> !kernel-soruce
[04:28] <Sal--> ok yeah
[04:28] <Sal--> now i see myself connected locally
[04:28] <jimisrvrox> durt: because from what I understand is that you can take an old computer and as long as you have a wireless card to serve as an access point that you can do something to make the box itself like the access point...
[04:28] <Sal--> in the syslog, but i dont see my attempt coming from outside to get a mount listing
[04:28] <wanna_learn_more> i got it already,thanks
[04:28] <Sal--> it's just timing out..... hmmmmmmmm odd :(
[04:29] <mib_wgs2a9> Pantlessjim: what do you need help with
[04:29] <Pantlessjim> Well, I Installed ubuntu 8.10 inside of windows. I don't actually have a dedicated partition for ubuntu. From my understanding, when the computer boots and I choose ubuntu, an image is loaded and I can access the operating system. I was wondering how I can access my windows files through ubuntu. Example, a picture for wallpaper
[04:30] <steffanm> I'll try to do a tcpdump here and see what it's doing when trying to connect.
[04:30] <Sal--> steffanm , i have it set to syslog only, so if it doesn't show up there it's not in any other logs
[04:30] <Sal--> ok im tailing
[04:30] <kravlin> n8user : the first command says interface eth0 not configured
[04:30] <steffanm> I mean trying a client / server combo on my own system
[04:30] <Sal--> [2009/03/31 20:30:23, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_connect(69)    Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost:631 - Connection refused
[04:31] <Sal--> i keep getting this, but that's just the print server
[04:31] <ron2010> does anybody have problem with bluetooth mouse working with laptop?
[04:31] <ron2010> it goes in and out
[04:31] <steffanm> Do you have cupsd running? [obvious question, I know]
[04:32] <Sal--> no i don't
[04:32] <Sal--> i have no need for it
[04:32] <Sal--> and the printer stuff is actually commente dout in my config, so no idea why it's even bothering
[04:32] <ron2010> it works fine and when it goes to sleep mode or turns off it wont work again
[04:33] <Sal--> i really dread having to install SWAT, but if i have no other choice, then i will :(
[04:33] <steffanm> What works fine and then stops?  SMB?
[04:33] <Sal--> huh? i didnt say that ;x
[04:33] <wanna_learn_more> hi,can i know whats linux-header??
[04:33] <steffanm> Oh, sorry
[04:33] <steffanm> :)
[04:34] <wanna_learn_more> i want to try my luck to configure kernel but at last i want to kno about it
[04:34] <Sal--> what a bitch this is
[04:34] <kravlin> n8tuser : the first command says interface eth0 not configured
[04:34] <Sal--> im thinking maybe its a routing issue
[04:34] <Sal--> but the ports are wide open, so that doesnt make sense
[04:35] <n8tuser> kravlin -> try to add in your interfaces file these...    auto eth0;  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:35] <wanna_learn_more> pliz answer my question
[04:35] <ron2010> any bluetooth mouse help?
[04:35] <mib_wgs2a9> Pantlessjim: it should be in /host      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684877
[04:36] <steffanm> Sal--> Have you tried smbclient with -d to get more info out of it?
[04:36] <Pantlessjim> mib_wgs2a9: Mate you are a genius. Thanks for digging that up. Couldn't find it for the life of me
[04:36] <Sal--> no.. locally?
[04:36] <steffanm> No, remotely - that's where you're having the prob, right?
[04:36] <kravlin> n8tuser: where are the interfaces file?
[04:37] <twolane> Sal--: type http://localhost:631 in a browser and see what you get
[04:37] <Sal--> yeah
[04:37] <Sal--> doing it now
[04:37] <kravlin> n8tuser: or is rather
[04:37] <kravlin> n8tuser: i can type. i swear
[04:37] <n8tuser> kravlin /etc/network/interfaces     man interfaces
[04:37] <Sal--> twolane, 631 is closed
[04:37] <steffanm> wanna-learn-more-> linux-header is typically the package that has the linux kernel header files that are used for compiling the kernel
[04:37] <seb-> steffanm: how eliminate the popups that ask "Are you sure?" when you kill an xterm?
[04:37] <timmytheraw> Any suggestions on a media player w/ a library that isnt SongBird or RhythmBox? (songbird is too slow and RhythmBox crashes too much)
[04:38] <EtFb> What's "ubiquity"?  Should I be worried that it crashed while I was installing Xubuntu?
[04:38] <mib_wgs2a9> is there a way to embed ubuntu onto a webpage where it is a real OS on a machine but it just streams images to the site and ppl can interact with it, or just have a ts client on the page?
[04:38] <seb-> timmytheraw: esperanza (xmms2)
[04:38] <steffanm> seb-> I haven't seen that particular popup.  Is it actual 'xterm', or gnome-terminal?
[04:38] <timmytheraw> thanks seb
[04:38] <twolane> Sal--: cupsys isn't running most likely. look for port 631 in netstat -tunap
[04:38] <Sal--> steffanm , just a timeout
[04:38] <mib_wgs2a9> EtFb: i believe that is the ubuntu installer, not sure though
[04:38] <seb-> steffanm: gnome-terminal
[04:38] <Sal--> twolane, i'm not running cupsys
[04:38] <twolane> Sal--: woops, sorry.
[04:39] <seb-> steffanm: i'm running the jaunty beta and it came up
[04:39] <Sal--> there will be no printing at all via smb
[04:39] <Sal--> so i don't need it :l
[04:39] <EtFb> mib_wgs2a9: Terrific.  That would explain why I can't boot.  Bugger this for a game of soldiers; I'm installing Kubuntu 8.04.  At least I know it works.  Xubuntu seems to be maintained by monkeys.
[04:39] <steffanm> seb-> Probably under edit..Profiles there may be a setting for disabling that
[04:39] <cool^tom> Hi
[04:39] <wanna_learn_more> and can i ask u when ubuntu 9.10 will be there?
[04:39] <steffanm> Sal -> Any luck w/ running smbclient -d ?
[04:40] <seb-> steffanm: are gnome-terms that much better? maybe i can just run just xterms
[04:40] <Sal--> steffanm , just a timeout
[04:40] <Sal--> timeout on 445 and 139
[04:40] <steffanm> Sal-> Do you have nmap?
[04:40] <Sal--> i also got: ould not test socket option TCP_NODELAY.
[04:40] <Sal--> Could*
[04:40] <Sal--> steffanm, no why?
[04:41] <EtFb> wanna_learn_more: The version numbers for Ubuntu are dates: 8.04 came out in 2008/04 (ie April); 9.10 will be October 2009.
[04:41] <kravlin> n8tuser: ok.  now it sits there for a while before disconnecting me.
[04:41] <steffanm> Sal-- > You might want to run nmap on the server from the client and see what it reports as ports open.  How are you determining now which ports are open?
[04:41] <Sal--> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
[04:41] <n8tuser> kravlin -> try this,  sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0  and then do ifconfig  to see if an ip address is assigned to your eth0
[04:42] <steffanm> seb -> gnome-terminal has more features, i.e., Tabs, but is a heavier weight client.  xterms are small and a little faster, but probably won't make much difference on modern hw
[04:42] <yggdrasil> i guesse i should adjust the clipboard
[04:42] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[04:42] <AaronMT> woot irssi 0.8.13
[04:42] <steffanm> Since you'd be running nmap on the client, it could help you determine whether the end-to-end path is okay
[04:42] <Sal--> im really thinking either
[04:42] <Sal--> well i think something in the log
[04:42] <Sal--> is telling it... local only
[04:43] <Sal--> or inside hte network only
[04:43] <steffanm> On the server?
[04:43] <kravlin> n8tuser: still getting the same error. that it's not configured
[04:43] <Sal--> yes
[04:44] <Sal--> did you look @ my config steffanm ?
[04:44] <steffanm> Is it possible the client could be the problem, though?
[04:44] <steffanm> I didn't see your config
[04:44] <steffanm> Did you past it?
[04:44] <Sal--> i pasted it above
[04:44] <steffanm> paste
[04:44] <n8tuser> kravlin -> post your /etc/network/interfaces again after you added what i suggested?
[04:44] <Sal--> yeah
[04:44] <steffanm> just a sec
[04:44] <FloodBot1> steffanm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <Sal--> http://pastebin.com/dab3fec9
[04:44] <steffanm> thx
[04:45] <Sal--> ps: i've commented printing and printcap name
[04:45] <Sal--> and syslog is 5
[04:45] <steffanm> Your config looks fine at first glance
[04:45] <cj__> my window list will not restore to the current workspace...and it's driving me insane with every involuntary revolution
[04:45] <steffanm> Plus you're able to run smbclient locally
[04:45] <cj__> halp
[04:46] <steffanm> So I don't think it's a config prob on the server
[04:46] <Sal--> correct
[04:46] <Sal--> well
[04:46] <Sal--> 2 reasonably more than likely answers
[04:46] <Sal--> 1 somewhere along the line routing is screwed up....... 2 something in the config isn't saying hey... let ppl outside this local net access me
[04:46] <Sal--> im thinking #2
[04:46] <steffanm> afaik there's no setting in the smb.conf that will restrict to local net
[04:47] <steffanm> You using iptables anywhere?
[04:47] <Sal--> nope :l
[04:47] <steffanm> (on the client, most likely)
[04:47] <steffanm> I still think that's where the problem lies.
[04:47] <kravlin> n8user: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a
[04:47] <steffanm> So are you even getting a password prompt from your client?
[04:47] <steffanm> Or getting a logon failure message?
[04:47] <Sal--> neither
[04:47] <Sal--> just a timeout
[04:47] <Sal--> i'm not even seeing the connect attempt via syslog
[04:48] <steffanm> I actually received a logon failure message from _here_
[04:48] <steffanm> If you're not getting that, then you have a client connectivity issue
[04:48] <PhotoJim> steffanm: interfaces=xxx will restrict it to one interface, if you have dual NICs.  I have mine ignoring all connections from the WAN IP.
[04:48] <Sal--> yeah
[04:48] <steffanm> Thanks, PhotoJim - I forgot about the actual *interface*... :/
[04:48] <Sal--> but you tried yourself
[04:48] <Sal--> and i dont see your attempt either
[04:48] <Sal--> mind trying again ?
[04:48] <PhotoJim> steffanm: still best to firewall though. :)
[04:48] <FloodBot1> Sal--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <steffanm> Sure...
[04:49] <Sal--> wait...
[04:49] <steffanm> Just tried, got a logon failure
[04:49] <Sal--> timeout ?
[04:49] <steffanm> Nope.  It's actually negotiating w/ the server
[04:50] <steffanm> Naturally I don't have a password.  You could post one here ;)
[04:50] <techqber1> zloog: nice thanks so much.
[04:50] <steffanm> I ran it with -d 5
[04:50] <steffanm> It does show the neg. steps
[04:50] <theobroma> hey there, a friend of mine downloaded and burned the Server edition (I think its 8.04). however, he needs the desktop install. I remember in some earlier version that a parameter could be passed to the server install to have it actually install a desktop. I've been looking for the equivalent option for this release8.x server disc but I cant find it. Does anyone know if this 8.x server releases supports an optio
[04:50] <seppi> oh snap. An unbuntu server? Wicked
[04:50] <itai_michaelson> hi, i'm watching a flash on nasa.gov and was wondering where is the tmp dir that firefox saves the flash file in ? i looked in /tmp and also in firefox/cache but its not there
[04:50] <Sal--> weird it looks like you tried to connect
[04:50] <steffanm> If you're not getting that from your client, then the client is blocking the conx
[04:50] <kplus> Can anyone tell me how to get my USB speakers working?
[04:51] <steffanm> Sal-- ->  Well, _yeah_ :/
[04:51] <Sal--> dont see your ip
[04:51] <Sal--> but got a bunch of those log msgs a second ago which i havent seen before
[04:51] <steffanm> I think I tried 3 times
[04:51] <itai_michaelson> theobroma, i think it asks you if you want a gui, cant remember-anyway u can apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <Sal--> steffanm tell me the full command your trying
[04:51] <steffanm> smbclient -L 216.75.63.125 -d 5
[04:51] <Sal--> i got that message about 20 times, within 10 seconds
[04:51] <Izinucs> What's the difference between using socket://<ip_address> and ipp://<ip_address> for a networked printer?
[04:52] <kravlin> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a
[04:52] <simon> how do I turn off brightness auto-adjustment?
[04:52] <Sal--> mind trying again
[04:53] <Sal--> just to make sure that wasnt a fluke, cause i just tried reconnecting, i see nothing in my syslog
[04:53] <steffanm> Just tried
[04:53] <simon> in battery mode it goes darker and darker until I can't see the text. pressing fn+'brightness up' takes a long time to respond, and then it goes darker afterwards anyway.
[04:53] <Sal--> nah, nothing
[04:54] <steffanm> Try smbclient -L <ip addr> -d 5 and paste
[04:54] <steffanm> Actually, -d 4
[04:54] <Sal--> 1 sec
[04:57] <Sal--> steffanm: http://pastebin.com/m46794f69
[04:57] <steffanm> You're definitely getting your connection blocked
[04:58] <ZykoticK9> Do bogomips reported in /proc/cpuinfo take into account dual core processors?  If I compare my system and AMD 64X2 3209MHz to that of a Celeron 398MHz there is an approximate 8X difference, but there are two cores running at that speed.  The bogomips of the AMD are 6419.57 vs Celeron at 796 bogomips also a 8X difference, shouldn't this actually be a 16X difference?
[04:58] <steffanm> Sal-- ->What OS are you running on the client?
[04:58] <ryaxnb> i've been playing with tasklists in gnome
[04:58] <Sal--> Mac OS X
[04:58] <ryaxnb> ZykoticK9: bogomips are utterly useless anyway
[04:59] <ryaxnb> might as well call them bogusmips
[04:59] <Sal--> staffanm btw thanks for helping me in this edge case scenario :(
[04:59] <RussM_> ZykoticK9, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomip            they're really just for figuring out an internal timing loop
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> ryanakca, ya "how fast can you do nothing" it's a funny but I think useful measurement (I know it's not to be taken too seriously)
[04:59] <steffanm> No problem.  We'll figure it out
[05:00] <steffanm> Sal-- -> Just for fun, try this:  nmap -sT localhost -p 445,139
[05:00] <Shoopuf> Hello, I downloaded the Hosts file from mvps.org to block unwanted Web stuff. I don't know how to install it in Ubuntu 8.10 though... I see a hosts file, a hosts.deny file, and a hosts.allow file. Which should I edit?
[05:00] <steffanm> Actually, replace <localhost> with the IP of the server
[05:00] <steffanm> Run it from the client
[05:00] <Sal--> don't have it locally :l
[05:01] <kravlin> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a This help much? sorry. i'm still learning linux through trial and error so any help is useful.
[05:01] <Sal--> staffanm, did you just try to connect again
[05:01] <steffanm> Sal-- -> How about telnet <ip>  445
[05:01] <steffanm> No, I didn't try to connect
[05:01] <Sal--> check msgs
[05:01] <Sal--> i get that repeated a bunch of times outo f nowhere
[05:02] <steffanm> Is that on your server or the client?
[05:02] <Sal--> server, in my syslog
[05:02] <Sal--> ok now i tried the telnet command and i get a new message in syslog
[05:03] <Sal--> on the client side, it's just stuck at trying ip.....
[05:03] <steffanm> So, running on the server you get the message, running on the client you get stuck?
[05:03] <frybye> HI with efax-gtk - where can I find the sent faxes in the file system to use a different appl to view them than the built-in one?
[05:04] <Sal--> yes
[05:04] <Sal--> well wait
[05:04] <Sal--> is that your ip
[05:04] <Sal--> that i pated to you?
[05:04] <steffanm> Nope, mind is on the 216 class A also
[05:04] <Sal--> err that i pasted to you*? cause it's not mines
[05:04] <ron2010> fixed my bluetooth mouse.  i have to delete the mouse in bluetooth manager and added it back again... this is nusauce
[05:04] <steffanm> The 70.x.x.x?
[05:04] <steffanm> Not me
[05:04] <ron2010> is there permenant fix to this?
[05:04] <Sal--> not me either, wtf is it?
[05:05] <luddite> n8tuser - i corrected it via timed-login option. so now it is back to normal - weird about that however. Thankyou so much
[05:05] <Sal--> i'm 69.x.x.x
[05:05] <frybye> or going at the problem from different angle - what format are the sent faxes in efax-gtk saved in??
[05:05] <steffanm> Well, being that your server is on the net, it's probably constantly getting scanned by random malware
[05:05] <tuxFan> how many of you run antivirus software  in linux?
[05:06] <cjalmeidabr> why would i?
[05:06] <Sal--> possibly
[05:06] <Sal--> anyway i'm baffled
[05:06] <tuxFan> so why there is a lot of antivirus software for linux?
[05:06] <cjalmeidabr> server side scanning
[05:07] <fabio> hi guys
[05:07] <steffanm> Sal-- -> So how does your client machine connect to the internet?
[05:07] <cjalmeidabr> you can setup your linux as a cache or mail server
[05:07] <kravlin> tuxFan: so if you're using a linux box as a webserver or a filesever you don't share viri?
[05:07] <Sal--> throw a router
[05:07] <cjalmeidabr> then have it scan the data prior to getting to clients
[05:07] <tuxFan> nah desktop user
[05:07] <Sal--> through* even..... i don't see that this would be an issue, seeing as you cannot connect either :(
[05:08] <cjalmeidabr> tuxFan: no need
[05:08] <fabio> i'm from brazil and i am developing an ldap improvement with gconf-editor
[05:08] <kravlin> n8tuser: You still there?
[05:08] <fabio> any sugestions
[05:08] <fabio> ?
[05:08] <steffanm> On the contrary, I think I can connect.  In fact, I can get all the way to the login point
[05:08] <tuxFan> ok thx , krystal clear
[05:08] <cjalmeidabr> fabio: ldap and gconf? why?
[05:08] <steffanm> Is your machine Cable, DSL, FiOS?
[05:08] <steffanm> What kind of router?
[05:09] <Sal--> Airport Extreme, Apple
[05:09] <fabio> low cost alternative to activve directory and group policy
[05:09] <kplus> Does anyone know of a way to reset the audio settings in ubuntu to a "factory default" type setting?
[05:09] <Sal--> i dont even see you in the logs, which scares me
[05:09] <steffanm> Okay.  That may explain it... I don't have one here to test with, though
[05:09] <Sal--> if it was just me, then i'd know i'm the problem
[05:10] <Sal--> but i've mounted samba shares recently
[05:10] <frybye> how to define a printer to work with lpr ??
[05:10] <Sal--> so i'm arguing that as out of the answer :(
[05:10] <steffanm> Did you mount the samba shares from the client?
[05:10] <Sal--> this computer i'm talking to you on, yes
[05:10] <steffanm> And it doesn't work now
[05:10] <Sal--> not on this server we're trying, but other servers
[05:10]  * kravlin seems to have lost his help.... damn. 
[05:10] <alevine> anybody have an intel 4500 graphics chipset working with the intel driver?
[05:10] <Sal--> and it does work
[05:10] <frybye> efax-gtk says it will print sent faxes with lpr but when trying to do this it says no target defind for lpr??
[05:10] <Sal--> do you have a share
[05:10] <steffanm> So it works on other servers, but it hasn't worked on the computer you're on now, correct?
[05:10] <Sal--> that i can do a test mount on?
[05:11] <techqber1> zloog: I get a permission denied even with sudo.  Hrm.
[05:11] <Sal--> this computer, i've mounted shares locally
[05:11] <Sal--> never externally tried to be honest
[05:12] <steffanm> What OS is on the computer you're on?
[05:12] <kravlin> trying to get my network working, whenever i run ifdown on eth0 it tells me the interface isn't configured and it won't connect to the wired network. help?
[05:12] <Sal--> steffanm: Mac OS X
[05:12] <steffanm> Oooohhh....
[05:12] <illmortalize> anyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?
[05:12] <steffanm> Well...That may explain it...
[05:13] <Sal--> Mac OS X (client).... server Ubuntu
[05:13] <steffanm> I had problems myself with that on my local network
[05:13] <steffanm> OSX -> a samba server
[05:13] <steffanm> Just a sec...
[05:13] <PhotoJim> OS X connects great to Linux networking.  NFS is native to both.  the only issue is uids.  you have to renumber them on the Mac to make them match what is on your server, to keep file permissions sensible.
[05:16] <steffanm> PhotoJim -> It does connect great...eventually :)
[05:16] <steffanm> Sal-- ->  Go to your System Preferences...Security
[05:16] <Sal--> ok
[05:16] <steffanm> Take a look at your firewall settings, possibly enable firewall logging
[05:16] <PhotoJim> steffanm: my wife's Macbook connects to my Ubuntu server quickly.  I just have the mount points in /etc/fstab like you would on a Linux box.
[05:16] <steffanm> Take a look at the firewall logs - you'll probably see that it is blocking smb connections
[05:17] <steffanm> PhotoJim:  I had a problem with the firewall blocking my connection initially
[05:17] <steffanm> IIRC, anyway.
[05:17] <steffanm> I made a setting change and it worked.
[05:17] <kingkaro> hi i need a million dollars
[05:17] <steffanm> May have been server vs. client, though
[05:17] <PhotoJim> steffanm: ahh.  my firewall doesn't block connections on my LAN subnet.  I figure between having lockable doors and WPA, my network is secure enough :)
[05:18] <steffanm> PhotoJim: Make sure you have lockable windows, too.  (And Windows)
[05:19] <PhotoJim> If someone wants to go to that much work, they can copy my MP3s all they want, I figure :)
[05:19] <User3719> this is my first IRC experience...just testing
[05:19] <User3719> how do i get a custom username?
[05:19] <PhotoJim> ... /nick NewName
[05:19] <User3719> thanks
[05:19] <Sal--> steffanm it worked for you?
[05:20] <Sal--> i'm not seeing it in my logs
[05:20] <kravlin> trying to get my network working, whenever i run ifdown on eth0 it tells me the interface isn't configured and it won't connect to the wired network. help? (i hate spamming but i'm not sure what else to do)
[05:20] <steffanm> kingkaro:  Invest $5 at 5% annually and wait for 253 years
[05:20] <karthik> hi
[05:20] <kingkaro> I need a million dollars or they kill me
[05:21] <elros_azothi> hey karthik
[05:21] <iter> paypal?
[05:21] <karthik> hey elros_azothi
[05:21] <yowshi1> i need help reinstalling a graphics driver. when i do sudo init 3 do i do it from tty1? or do i do it from any console in the screen i am on now?
[05:21] <steffanm> Sal -> I just pasted the output from -d 4
[05:22] <n8tuser> kravlin -> did you paste yet the /etc/network/interfaces file after the added lines?
[05:22] <kravlin> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m728be66a
[05:23] <n8tuser> kravlin can you also post the results of   sudo lshw -C network and ifconfig again
[05:25] <dhanveer> hey guys i need help
[05:25] <dhanveer> how to mount my dynamic and ntfs hard drives on ubuntu
[05:25] <dhanveer> ?
[05:26] <jmp> someone can help me
[05:26] <jmp> I cant' connect to locamhost using SSH
[05:27] <cjpro> jmp: Do you have openssh server installed?
[05:27] <jmp> yeah
[05:27] <dhanveer> guys answer me
[05:27] <jmp> I've already install it
[05:28] <cjpro> Are you connecting to locemhost or localhost?
[05:28] <cjpro> *locamhost
[05:28] <jmp> localhost
[05:28] <jmp> sorry
[05:29] <kravlin> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m21abc1f9
[05:29] <SandGorgon> guys.. I want to have an IRC channel inside my office with certain channels as password protected... a channel for SVN commit logs, etc. - is there any IRC server that you guys recommend ?
[05:29] <cjpro> Aye, it's been a while since I've booted to Ubuntu, but jmp: Try running /etc/init.d/opensshd restart
[05:30] <cjpro> Someone correct me if I used the wrong name of the script.
[05:30] <jmp> the message error is : connect to host "my IP" port 22 : connection failed
[05:30] <cjpro> jmp: netstat -tuan.
[05:30] <PhotoJim> SandGorgon: we use ircd-ircu on our local IRC network. I've not tried any of the alternatives.
[05:30] <jmp> cjpro ok I'm trying it
[05:30] <cjpro> *netstat -tuan
[05:30] <n8tuser> kravlin ->  and what is the error you get when you do sudo ifup eth0  ?
[05:30] <cjpro> Check to see if :22 is open.
[05:31] <SandGorgon> PhotoJim: what do you guys use ur irc network for ?
[05:31] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: practically every ircd supports using '/mode #channel +k password'
[05:32] <SandGorgon> lstarnes: all right... I was looking at InspireIRCd cos it has integration with LDAP as well
[05:32] <PhotoJim> SandGorgon: social use.  we have maybe 30 or 40 people on it, on half a dozen channels.
[05:32] <SandGorgon> allright
[05:32] <PhotoJim> SandGorgon: ircd-ircu supports the password feature lstarnes mentioned.
[05:32] <kravlin> n8tuser: unknown hardware address type 801 then it listens then runs DHCP discover, and then doesn't get anything.
[05:33] <PhotoJim> SandGorgon: it's the IRC software the Undernet network uses.
[05:33] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: I would also recommend using atheme as the services package in addition to an ircd like inspircd or ircu.  atheme has some ldap support in its development branch
[05:33] <SandGorgon> PhotoJim: thanks.. I'll take a look at that
[05:33] <jmp> how , I do to know if 22 is open
[05:33] <SandGorgon> lstarnes: checking it out..
[05:34] <jmp> cause it's print before "Active connections server established"
[05:35] <rampageai> Does anyone know anything about problems with missing pygtk module in Jaunty beta?
[05:35] <n8tuser> kravlin am curious can you tell me what files are listed in  /sys/class/net
[05:35] <Maximo-> man im under windows cause ubuntu wont work anything :(
[05:35] <elros_azothi1> what do you mean Maximo?
[05:35] <Maximo-> ehm
[05:35] <Maximo-> at start-up I get that tomboy not editing app error message
[05:36] <elros_azothi1> ah
[05:36] <n8tuser> jmp -> netstat -a  |grep 22
[05:36] <kravlin> n8tuser: eth0, lo, pan0, wlan0, wmaster0
[05:36] <elros_azothi1> lol i wish i could help u but im pretty nooby with linux
[05:36] <PhotoJim> night
[05:36] <Maximo-> that actually ask me if i wanna keep it like this or if Id rather kill it from my configuration
[05:36] <elros_azothi1> odd
[05:36] <Maximo-> then, pidgin crashes when i log in to msn
[05:36] <elros_azothi1> well im running it on my EEEPC
[05:37] <elros_azothi1> works fine
[05:37] <Maximo-> and wine wont work either, wine applications will run minimized , not to say, invisible, to desktop but still running when i actually check the running process
[05:37] <n8tuser> kravlin -> it looks like your e1000e driver is not working,  dont know if gigabit is supported in ubuntu, you may have to find the driver for you intel card
[05:37] <elros_azothi> heh
[05:37] <shankar> jmp try netstat -n -p
[05:37] <elros_azothi> and people say that Linux is ready for the desktop
[05:37] <elros_azothi> its close...but still so far
[05:37] <fostot> Was hoping I could possibly get a bit of assistance, i'm getting a GRUB Error 17 when I boot... however when i stick my ubuntu disc in and tell it to boot from the first hard disk, it works just fine. Any websites I can check / read up on for assistance?
[05:38] <MBDL> ok i have ubuntu installed inside windows... now is posible to open the windows drive?
[05:38] <MBDL> inside of ubuntu of course
[05:38] <sebsebseb> MBDL: did you use Virtualbox?
[05:38] <kravlin> n8tuser: how would i do that?
[05:38] <MBDL> no
[05:38] <MBDL> its like dual booting
[05:39] <sebsebseb> MBDL: you done wubi you mean?
[05:39] <illmortalize> anyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?
[05:39] <MBDL> its an option when u insert the disk inside windows
[05:39] <MBDL> yes!
[05:39] <sebsebseb> MBDL: yep wubi
[05:39] <MBDL> sebsebseb:yes wubi
[05:39] <loveissuicide> does anyone knows what happens with my local installations (i.e. those that I installed manually) if I upgrade my ubuntu? Do they dissapear?
[05:39] <n8tuser> kravlin -> try to google for ubuntu + gigabit and see what shows up,  i know ubuntu supports 100Meg but not sure about gigabit
[05:39] <jmp> MBDL inside windows , what do you means by
[05:39] <sebsebseb> MBDL: I think there is a /host folder on there some where, which is your  Windows
[05:39] <sebsebseb> MBDL: Wubi is only good for trying
[05:40] <sebsebseb> MBDL: quite a few draw backs with it as well
[05:40] <MBDL> sebsebseb: ok found that folder
[05:40] <MBDL> sebsebseb: and its there
[05:41] <Omniorb> hi
[05:41] <sebsebseb> MBDL: if  your  NTFS partition goes bad,  a virus or whatever,  that will effect wubi/ubuntu as well.  also  if  you haven't  defragged Windows, wubi can be rather slow, and there are other reasons.  one of  the Ubuntu ops in particular woudn't recommend wubi by the way
[05:41] <slushpuppeh> Hi, I get a nice static/radio-like sound during startup, how would I go about debugging that o.O?
[05:41] <MBDL> sebsebseb: the only reason i did use it was because my hp laptop would stop the ubuntu disk from booting
[05:41] <sebsebseb> MBDL: plus I belive there are a few other reasons why Wubi isn't good, but I am not entirely sure about them
[05:42] <jmp> unix 22 [] STREAM  connected 34103 /tmp/ .X11/Unix/X0
[05:42] <sebsebseb> MBDL: bad CD?
[05:42] <kravlin> n8tuser: looks like it supports it. i had to reinstall network manager which could have totally messed this up. not sure how to fix...
[05:42] <MBDL> sebsebseb: mine isnt a supported model.. and thats what i thought... but i googled and it was my graphic card...
[05:42] <sebsebseb> MBDL: the CD should work, as long as the ISO you burnt from was good which can be checked, and the CD was burnt slow enough
[05:42] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[05:43] <MBDL> and i tryed nogui and all the other commands and it would get goto a black screen instead of the ubuntu desktop
[05:43] <i_need_money> thanks for your help
[05:43] <n8tuser> whoa  this is new to me, running a vmware in bridge mode, I am able to acquire a second ip address from same dhcp as my host gets it from.. and it does not even show up in ifconfig
[05:43] <MBDL> sebsebseb: they were org ubuntu disks
[05:43] <sebsebseb> i_need_money: who's help?
[05:43] <n8tuser> kravlin -> try  wicd to replace nm
[05:43] <loveissuicide> does anyone knows what happens with my local installations (i.e. those that I installed manually) if I upgrade my ubuntu? Do they dissapear?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> MBDL: org ubuntu disks???
[05:43] <MBDL> sebsebseb: i tryed downloading them 2 same thing
[05:43] <MBDL> sebsebseb: the ones you order through ubuntu.com
[05:44] <aranyik> hello
[05:44] <MBDL> sebsebseb: origonal
[05:44] <sebsebseb> MBDL: ok you got sent offical  cd's and they didn't work?
[05:44] <MBDL> sebsebseb: nope
[05:44] <MBDL> its my laptop
[05:44] <jmp> loveissuicide , sometime yes
[05:44] <MBDL> sebsebseb: it my laptop not supported
[05:44] <sebsebseb> MBDL: tell me about your lap top. how old?  how much RAM? etc
[05:44] <loveissuicide> jmp: ok, thank you
[05:45] <MindVirus> Where can I go to get help with my iPod?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: standard ipod?  what do you want to do?  sync it?
[05:45] <MindVirus> No.
[05:45] <sebsebseb> MBDL: your lap top may be suppourted it's just you had a bad CD
[05:45] <MBDL> sebsebseb: well its an hp dv6404ca, with a upgraded ram of 2 gb and 150 gb harddrive.. nvidia go graphics
[05:45] <jmp> son next time store them on an external disk
[05:45] <MindVirus> I want to put videos on it.
[05:45] <MindVirus> I have the 4G Nano.
[05:45] <sebsebseb> MBDL: if wubi works, the CD should also work
[05:46] <MindVirus> And gtkpod doesn't support my iPod yet.
[05:46] <MindVirus> So I use Hipo.
[05:46] <MindVirus> But Hipo doesn't support video.
[05:46] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: what's Hipo???
[05:46] <aranyik> hello everyone, im still trying to ping through my ubuntu router and im able to ping every NIC of it from my laptop but i cant ping the other side. I have activated ip_foward and configured routes.  Any clues?
[05:46] <MBDL> sebsebseb: think there nvidia go 6150
[05:46] <MindVirus> sebsebseb, a GNOME iPod management utility.
[05:46] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: yeah, because of Apple,  Desktop Linux does not have great  iPod suppourt
[05:46] <MindVirus> I know.
[05:46] <Guest65673> hi. When using an nvidia card, What video driver does ubuntu use by default when using the liveCD?
[05:46] <MBDL> sebsebseb: broadcom wireless drivers
[05:46] <Guest65673> nv?
[05:46] <rampageai> MindVirus: I use rhythmbox for basic music functionality.
[05:47] <sebsebseb> MBDL: if  wubi works,  a CD should work
[05:47] <MindVirus> No...
[05:47] <MindVirus> I need to put stuff on my iPod.
[05:47] <MindVirus> Not listen to stuff on it.
[05:47] <MindVirus> Which I can do already.
[05:47] <FloodBot1> MindVirus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <jmp> it's always not possible to connect to localhost ussing SSH
[05:47] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: how much RAM do you have?  and do you have a Windows CD?
[05:47] <MindVirus> That's cute.
[05:47] <MBDL> sebsebseb: thats what i thought... but the live cd freezes right when the desktops supposed to load
[05:47] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: you can run Windows inside Ubuntu, for your ipod stuff, if nessarey
[05:47] <macman> hey i want to transfer 177gigs from 1 external to another external .. what is faster mv or rsync ? or what is faster then both of them ?
[05:47] <MBDL> sebsebseb: its a known issue with my laptop iv found with searching with google...\
[05:48] <MindVirus> sebsebseb, no chance.
[05:48] <MBDL> ever since then i used wubi
[05:48] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: no why not?
[05:48] <MBDL> sebsebseb: i dont know it the beta works now or not... because i just did an upgrade
[05:48] <MindVirus> I wouldn't touch Windows on this computer with someone else's flagpole.
[05:48] <jmp> macman mv I think
[05:48] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: lol
[05:48] <MBDL> sebsebseb: i got myself stuck in a tree wondering the same
[05:49] <MBDL> sebsebseb: why wont it work
[05:49] <sebsebseb> MBDL: why won't what work?
[05:49] <steffanm> macman:  rsync can run in restartable mode which can help if you drop your connection
[05:49] <MindVirus> sebsebseb, :(
[05:49] <MindVirus> Any other suggestions?
[05:49] <steffanm> if you can mount the filesystem, mv
[05:49] <MBDL> sebsebseb: i was able to upgrade from 7.10
[05:49] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: sure, but a peice of hardware that does what you want, and works nicely with Linux
[05:49] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: buy not but
[05:50] <MindVirus> That's what I did.
[05:50] <MBDL> but havent tryed yet burning the beta to disk and installing
[05:50] <MindVirus> My 2nd generation Nano worked perfectly.
[05:50] <sebsebseb> MBDL: don't do 9.04 yet
[05:50] <MindVirus> I'm going to try to use Banshee.
[05:50] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: yep Banshee :)
[05:50] <loveissuicide> does anyone knows how to configure a xbox 360 wireless controller in intrepid, I know that there is a guide for a previous version of ubuntu but for intrepid doesn't work
[05:50] <MBDL> sebsebseb: already have... i dont mine the drawbacks from using a beta
[05:50] <rampageai> MBDL: I'm in here because 9.04 broke rhythmbox and totem for me :(
[05:50] <sebsebseb> MindVirus: I  was going to recommend Banshee, or did I hum
[05:51] <MBDL> sebsebseb: lolz it broke alot for me
[05:51] <lifulinghan>   你们好呀
[05:51] <sebsebseb> MBDL: well there's no wubi for 9.04 yet I think
[05:51] <sebsebseb> MBDL: how did you do 9.04?
[05:51] <MBDL> sebsebseb: turned out it was xulrunner and soemthing else that fudged up
[05:52] <MBDL> sebsebseb: upgraded from 7.10 through the update manager
[05:52] <MBDL> sebsebseb: worked like a charm
[05:52] <sebsebseb> MBDL: oh you mean your on 8.04 not 9.04
[05:52] <jmp> it's always impossible to connect to localhost using SSH
[05:52] <MBDL> sebsebseb: other then it broke everything running on QT.. but i reinstalled qt and i waas fine for those... then google earth i had to fix xulrunner
[05:52] <jmp> someone can help me ?
[05:53] <MBDL> sebsebseb: yes yes
[05:53] <sebsebseb> MBDL: so  everything  works now?
[05:53] <MBDL> sebsebseb: thats what i mean
[05:53] <MBDL> sebsebseb: EVERYTHING
[05:53] <kravlin> n8tuser: wicd to replace nm?
[05:53] <rampageai> MBDL: How did you reinstall qt?
[05:53] <sebsebseb> MBDL: what's the issue then?  I thought you had some sort of issue
[05:53] <MBDL> sebsebseb: after the 10 or so broken things that i only really had to fix 2
[05:53] <n8tuser> kravlin yes
[05:53] <MBDL> rampageai: package manager and the sdk from there site
[05:54] <MBDL> sebsebseb: lolz u answered it already how to access my windows drive! we just got offtrack
[05:54] <rampageai> MBDL: I've been attempting to reinstall several packages because I believe it may be the cause of my broken application problems.  I'll give qt a try, too.
[05:54] <MBDL> sebsebseb: LOL!!!:-D
[05:54] <sebsebseb> MBDL: your running 8.04 in Wubi hummmmm?
[05:55] <sebsebseb> MBDL: yeah and  I told you to try and avoide wubi
[05:55] <sebsebseb> MBDL: hell if your going to have  Ubuntu inside Windows, you may as well do it properly inside WIndows, in a virtual machine
[05:55] <jmp> and remotely too, by using putty on vista
[05:55] <sebsebseb> MBDL: or do both
[05:55] <sebsebseb> MBDL: dual booting sucks
[05:55] <MBDL> rampageai: and xulrunner use not the main server but the us to download updates and there will be one for xulrunner
[05:55] <kravlin> n8tuser: no. as in what does that mean?
[05:56] <sebsebseb> MBDL: however you want to get Ubuntu on your hard disk :)  properly with partitions
[05:56] <n8tuser> kravlin its a replacement of network manager
[05:56] <MBDL> sebsebseb: no im running 9.04
[05:56] <sebsebseb> MBDL: real partitions, but maybe just wait now for 9.04 and good Ext4 views. and install 9.04  with Ext4 partitions
[05:56] <jmp> it's always impossible to connect to localhost using SSH, and remotely too, by using putty on vista someone can help me?
[05:57] <kravlin> n8tuser: ok. i'll attempt it once i have a wireless connection again.
[05:57] <MBDL> sebsebseb: yes i perfer partitions... works WAY BETTER i know less drawbacks and if something goes wrong its easy as 123 to reinstall
[05:57] <Svenstaro> jmp, stop blocking port 22?
[05:57] <jmp> I'm workind on intrepid
[05:57] <lifulinghan> so am  i
[05:57] <MBDL> sebsebseb: well got to head to bed... moving in the morning...
[05:57] <sebsebseb> MBDL: well 9.04 isn't really meant to be suppourted in here,  but I am banned still from the channel for it,  we could go pm, but no ops or anyone complaining, and your issue is not 9.04 specfic anyway
[05:57] <sebsebseb> MBDL: ok well
[05:57] <sebsebseb> !install
[05:58] <sebsebseb> MBDL: many ways to install Ubuntu,  try and partition later on, instead of doing wubi
[05:58] <sebsebseb> MBDL: as in wait for 9.04 final and  then partition
[05:58] <aranyik> Anyone ? Is it possible to ping through a router made of ubuntu with only creating routes and activating ip_forward ?
[05:58] <jmp> how do I know it's block ?
[05:58] <sebsebseb> MBDL: only a few weeks now
[05:58] <MBDL> sebsebseb: yes i know that what ill do wait till the full release
[05:58] <Svenstaro> aranyik, you want to ping through your router?
[05:58] <wermse> im using network-manager-pptp trying to setup a pptp connection.  it gets connected but im having a couple problems. 1) it's using the dns info from the pptp server, which i don't want.  and 2) it's routing all traffic rather than subnet specific traffic through the pptp connection.  anyone know if there is an easy way to fix this with network-manager-pptp?
[05:58] <sebsebseb> MBDL: and you could be like me, and wait for some good Ext4 in jaunty veiws before putting on properly with Ext4
[05:58] <MBDL> sebsebseb: and sorry to say i haft to head to bed moving in the morning
[05:59] <sebsebseb> MBDL: I am running the beta on Ext3 at the moment.  I had alpha6 before, anyway yeah bye
[05:59] <MBDL> sebsebseb: thx for your help
[05:59] <sebsebseb> MBDL: no problem
[05:59] <MBDL> Bye everyone thx for chatting :P
[05:59] <aranyik> Svenstaro, well I'm dreaming that some day I'll be able to use it as a router-firewall and have my private network, but for now just pingning outside of it would be so great!
[06:00] <moldonond> how to install a tarbz2?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> !tar
[06:00] <Svenstaro> aranyik, I would use a dedicated box for security reasons for a router. Use IPCop or something similar. I'm using it right now and it's been running for years without mucking.
[06:00] <lifulinghan> sudo get-apt instll
[06:00] <moldonond> !tar
[06:00] <sebsebseb> moldonond: extract it.  then  cd into that  folder.  and I guess it's like .tar.gz and so.  ./configure make make install
[06:01] <sebsebseb> moldonond: and you might have some dependancies to sort out before it will install
[06:01] <yoasdf> what is gdm's default runlevels?
[06:01] <sebsebseb> moldonond: what do you want to installl anyway?  there may be a deb for ubuntu
[06:01] <yoasdf> 2 3 4 5 S ?
[06:01] <yoasdf> 2 3 4 5 S ? GDM default runlevels
[06:01] <aranyik> Svenstaro, Is there CLI version or only GUI ?
[06:02] <moldonond> ok thank very much
[06:02] <lifulinghan> how can i use ping know that the source rate
[06:02] <Svenstaro> aranyik, you usually use the webinterface to do stuff. You only use the cli to install stuff like binary addons but everything else is done in the web ui. I liked IPCop so much I put up a box on my school.
[06:03] <rampageai> MBDL:  I just made sure the US server was selected and then I selected xulrunner and several of the qt packages for reinstallation-- is that the right concept or am I off?
[06:04] <aranyik> Svenstaro, ok I'll take a look right now, thanks!
[06:04] <Svenstaro> aranyik, there's a large community around it so you should be fine in case you run into problems.
[06:04] <aranyik> Svenstaro, OK :D great!
[06:04] <Svenstaro> aranyik, good luck
[06:05] <aranyik> Svenstaro, thanks !
[06:09] <Guest71623> test
[06:09] <Guest71623> hello
[06:10] <elros_azothi> PING!
[06:10] <elros_azothi> PING
[06:10] <raddad> it's working
[06:10] <elros_azothi> PING!
[06:10] <elros_azothi> PING!
[06:10] <Guest71623> PING!
[06:10] <lifulinghan> what
[06:10] <lifulinghan> ?
[06:10] <smokewon> hey so when is 9.01 being released?
[06:10] <elros_azothi> just pinging to see if people can hear me
[06:11] <rubens_> como atualiza lista de repositorios
[06:11] <Guest71623> PING!
[06:11] <lifulinghan> what you ip
[06:11] <pinokio> gimana caranya import database melalui terminal ubuntu
[06:11] <elros_azothi> why would u want that?
[06:11] <Guest71623> test
[06:11] <rubens_> ?
[06:12] <rubens_> ?
[06:12] <lifulinghan> i want you know your ip that i can ping you
[06:12] <elros_azothi> no
[06:12] <moldonond> not working
[06:12] <elros_azothi> lol
[06:12] <raddad> looks like enough pinging going on around here
[06:12] <elros_azothi> i ment it in a sence that i was just wondering if people in this channel can hear me
[06:14] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[06:14] <elros_azothi> thanks FloodBot1
[06:15] <sebsebseb> !jaunty | smokewon:
[06:15] <elros_azothi> was having issues
[06:15] <grinsys> ?
[06:15] <Formoden> Hi there, can anyone send me a pastebin of their Ubuntu entry in GRUB? Thanks.
[06:15] <moldonond> lol
[06:15] <sebsebseb> !ops
[06:15] <Vantrax> Formoden, that will differ based on version
[06:16] <Halluzination> hey, i know this probably isnt the channel for this question... but perhaps someone can answer/direct me to the correct channel for the answer::  in general, what is the biggest difference between KDE and GNOME?
[06:17] <seb-> where docs on proper way to set up seahorse-agent ?
[06:17] <jachred> Is there a GUI interface to mount partitions and HDD's?
[06:19] <seb-> jachred: why do you want a GUI?
[06:19] <ikt> gparted?
[06:19] <sebsebseb> Halluzination: Gnome uses  GTK apps and  KDE uses QT apps
[06:19] <sebsebseb> Halluzination: they are just differnet desktop environments
[06:19] <sebsebseb> Halluzination: there isn't really a big difference as such
[06:19] <lifulinghan> ：）
[06:19] <lifulinghan> ：（
[06:20] <jachred> I have gparted, but it doesnt allow you to mount.  I cant figure out how to mount it the command line way.
[06:20] <Halluzination> sebsebseb: right, i understand the difference in apps and they are envs, but there is no difference other than that? like.. any advantages/disadvantages of either one? I'm guessing GNOME is more popular than KDE, right?
[06:21] <seb-> Halluzination: they are both so good that the differences are negligible
[06:21] <ikt> kde vs gnome is one of the bigger debates on the net
[06:21] <Nytrix> so how do i put /boot and bootloader on my usb when i install ubuntu?
[06:21] <Formoden> Seeking the most current version of Ubuntu's kernel... The one that was released just a couple days ago... 2.6.27---?
[06:22] <seb-> Nytrix: i noticed System/Administration has a "USB Starup Disk Creator"
[06:22] <seb-> Nytrix: at least on Jaunty beta :)
[06:22] <Nytrix> bah!
[06:22] <Nytrix> i guess i can wait
[06:22] <an00b> kde ftw
[06:23] <Nytrix> never mind
[06:23] <Nytrix> i see it
[06:23] <Nytrix> thnx
[06:23] <Nytrix> so this will move my /boot bootloader to usb?
[06:23] <jachred> Nytrix: worked for me today
[06:23] <Nytrix> sweet dude
[06:23] <ling_china> rm -r /rrot
[06:23] <Nytrix> thnx
[06:24] <Formoden> Can anyone please tell me what the latest /boot/initrd.img-{Numbers} is?
[06:24] <ling_china> why not use "rm -r /root"
[06:24] <bgupta> Anyone have any suggestions for an open source pager/sms email gateway that handles oncall rotations, escalations, and 2 way messaging? Thinking something like this, but open source:  http://www.mir3.com/Products/TelAlert/index.php
[06:25] <ling_china> m
[06:26] <Nytrix> when is ubuntu 9.04 comming out? when is the actual date?
[06:26] <Formoden> Can someone please tell me what the most currently Ubuntu hardy Kernel version is?
[06:26] <Formoden> Nytrix, 22 days.
[06:26] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[06:27] <Formoden> nytrix, are you running hardy?
[06:29] <Formoden> !kernel
[06:30] <Nytrix> im on 8.10
[06:30] <Formoden> Nytrix, can you do be a huge favor?
[06:30] <Nytrix> ?
[06:31] <Formoden> Can you open your /boot/grub/menu.lst and pastebin it for me?
[06:31] <Formoden> !pastebin | Nytrix
[06:31] <Nytrix> no
[06:31] <Formoden> Nytrix, Can you pastebin your ubuntu entry for me? Or at least tell me what's on this line? "initrd /initrd.img-2.6.27-5-386"
[06:32] <illmortalize> anyone know how to determine which partition belongs to which HDD?
[06:32] <Nytrix> no
[06:32] <macman_> illmortalize, fdisk -l
[06:32] <Nytrix> try some1 else
[06:32] <Formoden> Nytrix, thanks then. You're very helpful.
[06:33] <Nytrix> sorry i dont know u can maybe hack into my pc
[06:33] <illmortalize> thanks macman!
[06:33] <Nytrix> hehe
[06:33] <macman_> fdisk -l .. the first set of stuff you see is normally your hd .. hda1 or sda1 .. anything after that /dev/sdc /dev/sdb1 are external stuff
[06:33] <macman_> ie usb
[06:33] <Formoden> Nytrix, No I'm just trying to figure up what's the latest initrd.img
[06:34] <illmortalize> I'm tryin to determine which HDD has my important documents. lol
[06:34] <macman_> illmortalize, is it an exteral ?
[06:34] <illmortalize> nope... I have one HDD that's a SATA and the other is a ATA
[06:34] <macman_> aw
[06:34] <Formoden> Can anyone please pastebin me their 8.10 Hardy's latest Entry?
[06:34] <macman_> illmortalize,  type mount
[06:34] <Formoden> Grub... sorry.
[06:36] <raddad> formoden: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/getubuntu/releasenotes
[06:36] <illmortalize> argh... macman left =\
[06:37] <Formoden> raddad, The kernel was updated a couple days ago, I just need the most recent version's version number so I can boot into my ubuntu.
[06:37] <perdidopunk> anybody hear about what conficker is doing yet?
[06:37] <hateball> !windows | perdidopunk
[06:38] <Formoden> raddad, If you can give me even a clue I'd be very happy.
[06:38] <SoS11> where can I find some basic info about applying a .patch to a program, or about modifying it??
[06:39] <MrSunshine> patch -p0 -i patch.name? :)
[06:39] <illmortalize> Guys.. How do I determine if sda1 is SATA or ATA?
[06:40] <perdidopunk> sounds like SATA to me
[06:40] <illmortalize> o.O?
[06:40] <SoS11> MrSunshine, but what if the "@@ -40,10 +40,12 @@" lines don't matcg...will they still work?
[06:40] <Formoden> Can anyone even give me a link to a page that will tell me the latest kernel version available to ubuntu?
[06:40] <perdidopunk> otherwise it'd probably be HDA1
[06:40] <hateball> Formoden╶ packages.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <MrSunshine> SoS11, for the most part if not alot of changes has been made to the code
[06:41] <MrSunshine> that they've moved/trivial changes patch usaly can take care of
[06:41] <MrSunshine> but if code is changed expect that you might have to hand patch :)
[06:41] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize the fact that it's SDA1 implies to me that it's the first partition on the first sata drive
[06:41] <Formoden> hateball, Thanks for the help.
[06:42] <paypirius> anyone know the solution to this? ive installed ubuntu off a usb drive, and it starts up fine, but every time i restart it asks me if i want to install it again so i dont have to run it off a live cd... but its not, it running off the harddrive
[06:42] <SoS11> MrSunshine, that's why I want some info about...I donno what to change in those @@ -xx.xx +xx.xx @@ lines ... any info about what they mean?
[06:42] <illmortalize> perdidopunk.... but I only have 1 SATA and 1 ATA. and the other hard drive is sdb
[06:43] <perdidopunk> do you have any usb drives plugged in?
[06:43] <MrSunshine> SoS11, its position references
[06:43] <MrSunshine> line numbers etc
[06:43] <illmortalize> hm...... can I paste bin my fdisk -l and mount?
[06:43] <paypirius> nope nothing, just the internal hdd
[06:43] <illmortalize> perdidopunk ^
[06:43] <perdidopunk> if you'd like to
[06:43] <MrSunshine> SoS11, they can be a bit strange to read tho, as the first one might add 20 lines to the code, so the next position reference is the position in the new code, not the old etc :)
[06:44] <MrSunshine> the code containing then new 20 lines
[06:44] <MrSunshine> SoS11, but do a backup of the code and try and patch it :)
[06:44] <illmortalize> perdidopunk: http://pastebin.com/m4d82e1d9
[06:45] <perdidopunk> uh
[06:45] <perdidopunk> those disks look identical
[06:45] <illmortalize> lol...
[06:45] <perdidopunk> are you telling me you have two disks that are exactly the same, but one is sata and one is ide?
[06:46] <illmortalize> Two 500GB
[06:46] <illmortalize> one is IDE and the other SATA
[06:46] <perdidopunk> are they the same brand?
[06:46] <paypirius> anyone know who to stop ubuntu from asking me to install it every time i start up, when its already installed?
[06:46] <SoS11> MrSunshine, "can't find file to patch at input line 4" ... so I need to manualy edit it
[06:46] <perdidopunk> paypirius, eject the boot cd?
[06:46] <paypirius> its not in anymore
[06:47] <perdidopunk> not sure then
[06:47] <paypirius> its running completely off the drive it was installed to
[06:47] <sn00p-> does anybody know anything on how to apply the patch for sys injection on the bcm43xx for linux 2.6.27?
[06:47] <MrSunshine> SoS11, oh
[06:47] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize i'm not sure what to tell you
[06:47] <MrSunshine> darn :)
[06:47] <MrSunshine> dunno then
[06:47] <illmortalize> perdido, one is a maxtor the other is a seagate, im pretty sure
[06:47] <bullgard4> "~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_hda_intel 346136  3". What does mean the '3'?
[06:47] <illmortalize> seagate is satsa
[06:47] <illmortalize> sata*
[06:47] <MrSunshine> SoS11, you got a filename at the reference lines also
[06:47] <MrSunshine> so you can see what file to edit etc
[06:48] <SoS11> MrSunshine, manually editing the files would take ages :(
[06:48] <MrSunshine> is it an old patch that your trying to use for a newer program ?
[06:49] <jakeriver> hmm. anyone using easypeasy version of ubuntu?
[06:49] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize well, i'm surprised that they have the same low-level formatting. interesting
[06:49] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize see if you can get the SMART info, i guess
[06:49] <SoS11> MrSunshine, yes
[06:49] <sn00p-> it says Sysfs injection support was not found either
[06:50] <illmortalize> type SMART?
[06:50] <xTheGoat121x> Evening everyone
[06:50] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize i don't think so. it's just the acronym for the hdd monitoring info
[06:50] <MrSunshine> SoS11, might not even be doable then
[06:50] <illmortalize> how would I go about that, perdido?
[06:50] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize
[06:50] <MrSunshine> as usaly files disapears, and new ones gets added etc
[06:50] <perdidopunk> try uh
[06:50] <perdidopunk> smartctl -i /dev/sda
[06:50] <xTheGoat121x> I'm having an issue with Flash... the performance is terrible, and I've tried everything I can think of to improve it.
[06:50] <SoS11> MrSunshine, I'll try to manualy edit the files...maybe I'll get lucky :)
[06:51] <MrSunshine> gl hf :)
[06:51] <SoS11> :)
[06:51] <SoS11> ty
[06:51] <kop> what is the off topic or ubuntu chat chan ?
[06:51] <illmortalize> downloading smartmontools
[06:52] <perdidopunk> smartctl should tell you the device model of each disk
[06:52] <perdidopunk> it's part of smartmontools
[06:52] <as84> Hello i am trying this tutorial http://code.suckless.org/contrib/guide/wmii-3/guide-en/guide_en/node5.html#SECTION00051000000000000000
[06:52] <perdidopunk> you did an apt-get?
[06:53] <as84> when it says press "MOD-Enter"... what is the "MOD" key, i am a bit confused
[06:53] <illmortalize> woooooot
[06:53] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize gratz
[06:53] <illmortalize> perdido, sda1 = SATA (Seagate Barracuda) :D
[06:54] <illmortalize> sweets..... so my SATA is the actual drive :D
[06:54] <illmortalize> that has the important back ups :P
[06:54] <illmortalize> thanks perdido!
[06:54] <perdidopunk> @illmortalize no problem!
[06:54] <perdidopunk> and with that, i'm going to sleep. goodnight room
[06:55] <paypirius> anyone know how to stop it from asking me to install ubuntu every time i restart, when it is already installed?
[06:56] <disappearedng> What are the software requirements to make my Home computer a proxy?
[06:57] <DigitalKiwi> google
[06:57] <xTheGoat121x> paypirius, have you removed the CD from the drive?
[06:57] <paypirius> yes i have
[06:57] <xTheGoat121x> paypirius, then I have no idea.  Mine always stopped after removing the CD
[06:57] <paypirius> it is booting off the hdd, but still thinks its a live boot
[06:58] <elros_azothi2> ive got a really random question...any way of making a command "make me a sandwich" ? like of that webcomic
[06:58] <mutew> Got a quick question about the startup video modes in Ubuntu.
[06:58] <elros_azothi2> so i can type "make me a sanwich" - have it return no
[06:58] <bullgard4> "~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_hda_intel 346136  3". What does mean the '3'?
[06:59] <elros_azothi2> then type "sudo make me a sandwich" and have it return "OK"
[06:59] <elros_azothi2> :P ?
[06:59] <mutew> bullgard4, it means that there are three other inserted modules dependent on it.
[07:00] <Nasra> Jan:
[07:00] <mutew> elros_azothi2, there's a slight problem with the command you want to make.
[07:01] <bullgard4> mutew: I am inclined to not believing you: There are other output lines where the depends are listed and there that number does not correspond to the number of modules listed.
[07:01] <koala^> hey vanasmile :)
[07:01] <vanasmile> hi koala^:)
[07:01] <elros_azothi2> go on
[07:01] <koala^> vanasmile this is where you will get all the help you need for ubuntu
[07:02] <koala^> (in theory)
[07:02] <vanasmile> thank you so very much
[07:02] <vanasmile> I will be back
[07:03] <bullgard4> mutew: Example: "snd_seq                54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event"
[07:03] <joetheodd> Was someone looking for me earlier? Someone said my nick
[07:04] <vanasmile> thank you. Bye for now
[07:08] <DigitalKiwi> elros_azothi2: I have written you a program to do that
[07:12] <DigitalKiwi> elros_azothi2: http://rafb.net/p/HAXJzQ45.html save this as "make me a sandwich" chmod +x make\ me\ a
[07:12] <chrismiller> Anyone think they can get a ubuntu install up and running on Rackspace / Mosso cloud with an old version of Plesk control panel?
[07:12] <DigitalKiwi> elros_azothi2: http://rafb.net/p/HAXJzQ45.html save this as "make me a sandwich" chmod +x make\ me\ a\ sandwich
[07:12] <the9a3eedi> question. is there any way I can find the xorg.conf that the ubuntu liveCD uses?
[07:12] <DigitalKiwi> execute by typing "./make me a sandwich"
[07:12] <wanna_learn_more> can i know LBM true type?
[07:13] <DigitalKiwi> oh and install lua
[07:13] <DigitalKiwi> ofc
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> i tried apt-get install linux-backport-modules cant find anything.tried linux-backports-moudle too
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> still dont get anything
[07:13] <vino> hi
[07:13] <thor> i have a fresh install of 8.10 and upgraded to the new kernel. but now when i try to use apt i get a "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" What can i do?
[07:14] <elros_azothi2> Thor; another package manager is in use
[07:16] <thor> elros_azothi2: i cant seem to find anything else that would be using it
[07:16] <elros_azothi2> mmm
[07:16] <the9a3eedi> Question: what driver does ubuntu use by default when not using any restricted drivers? vesa?
[07:17] <the9a3eedi> or does it depend on the card you're using?
[07:17] <Boohbah> the9a3eedi: it depends
[07:17] <paypirius> anyone know how to stop ubuntu from trying to install every time i restart, when its already installed? it thinks its still running off a live cd.
[07:18] <bullgard4> "~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_seq  54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event". What does mean the '6'?
[07:18] <magnetron> paypirius→ remove the CD from the CD reader
[07:18] <paypirius> done that
[07:18] <the9a3eedi> Boohbah: like right now I have an nvidia card. What driver does X use?
[07:18] <magnetron> paypirius→ then it's not running from a CD anymore
[07:18] <the9a3eedi> nv?
[07:18] <paypirius> im aware its not, but it thinks it is
[07:18] <paypirius> every time i restart it asks me if i want to install
[07:19] <QPrime> paypirius: this is a brand-spanking new install?
[07:19] <magnetron> paypirius→ please give us the full error message. what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:19] <paypirius> brand new install, no error message, just the lovely install screen that ubuntu comes with
[07:19] <andrew_> I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless on a fresh Xubuntu 8.10 install...anyone free?
[07:19] <magnetron> paypirius→ what version of ubuntu is this?
[07:20] <paypirius> 8.04
[07:20] <magnetron> paypirius→ what version does it want to install? and what's the exact message?
[07:21] <paypirius> its not a message, its the install window that runs off the cd, asks your timezone, partitions, user names, etc, and i assume the same version that is running
[07:22] <QPrime> paypirius: did you do an oem install?
[07:22] <g4lt-lappy> paypirius, have you thought of taking out the install CD?
[07:22] <andrew_> I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless on a fresh Xubuntu 8.10 install...
[07:22] <paypirius> i dont think i did an oem install... and yea already the cd is gone
[07:22] <QPrime> paypirius: from the 'alternate' cd
[07:22] <QPrime> paypirius; ok
[07:22] <JMProg> hello all
[07:23] <JMProg> anyone know how to upgrade to mono-2.4 or 2.6?
[07:23] <SeViLLa> andrew_: whats your question
[07:23] <the9a3eedi> Anyone? is there a way to check out what kind of xorg.conf the ubuntu liveCD uses?
[07:23] <paypirius> dunno, is there just a way to change the start up options so it goes away?
[07:23] <the9a3eedi> because when I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it's pretty empty
[07:23] <the9a3eedi> so I'm confused
[07:24] <andrew_> SeViLLa, I don't really have a question...just not sure what to try next.
[07:24] <QPrime> paypirius: that seriously sounds like an oem install (just my .02) :(
[07:24] <andrew_> Upon fresh install Atheros restricted driver is 'activated and currently in use'
[07:24] <paypirius> if it is an oem install what would my next step be?
[07:24] <SeViLLa> andrew_: ok whats the problem with the wireless no ip, driver, what?
[07:25] <andrew_> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[07:25] <QPrime> paypirius: follow the prompts and it should finish and reboot.
[07:25] <andrew_> pretty sure my driver is ok
[07:25] <DigitalKiwi> elros_azothi2: I have one in bash now
[07:25] <QPrime> paypirius: or you can re-install using the standard desktop cd
[07:25] <paypirius> it goes through the partitioning info, cries about not being able to unmount the drive (since its running off it) and then i have to stop
[07:26] <andrew_> I've also tried using ndiswrapper but still not showing any wireless extensions (nor is it showing up in networkmanager)
[07:26] <QPrime> Hmmm: well then *thats* not good.  seeing as its a fresh install I'd wipe it and start over.
[07:26] <DigitalKiwi> http://rafb.net/p/QrDnnu60.html elros_azothi2 same procedure
[07:27] <DigitalKiwi> other than you don't need lua
[07:27] <paypirius> yea  i thought i might have  to, any particular action i should take during an install to make sure it knows its finished?
[07:27] <Boohbah> the9a3eedi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XORGHardy
[07:27] <QPrime> paypirius: are you using 8.04.2?
[07:27] <SeViLLa> andrew_: yeah you got me there havent had that problem before
[07:27] <Boohbah> the9a3eedi: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:27] <Persi> hi there, whys Jaunty so slow, is it temporary?
[07:27] <paypirius> yer
[07:27] <SeViLLa> andrew_: nothing on in the ubuntu forums
[07:28] <QPrime> paypirius: no particular action... it will eject the cd and reboot.
[07:28] <andrew_> lspci | grep Network
[07:28] <paypirius> didn't work last time haha
[07:28] <QPrime> paypirius: then its not properly installed ;)
[07:28] <andrew_> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller:  Atheros Communications Inc.  AR5007G Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[07:28] <andrew_> it's a pcmcia
[07:29] <karthik> hi
[07:29] <andrew_> So apparently Xubuntu knows it's there
[07:29] <Persi> anyone have suggestions? is it worth it to wait few weeks for a new version or it will be just as slow?
[07:30] <andrew_> Persi, if you require speed...I'd suggest Xubuntu.
[07:30] <andrew_> It's much lighter.
[07:30] <QPrime> Persi: Jaunty help is in #ubuntu+1  (and you'll need to be more specific than that)
[07:30] <SeViLLa> andrew_: did you try ifconfig eth1 up
[07:30] <paypirius> whats easy peasy offer that ubuntu doesn't?
[07:31] <andrew_> sudo ifconfig eth1 up yields:  eth1:  ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:31] <husayn__> how to mount .bin file
[07:31] <husayn__>  i have tried mount media.iso -o loop /media/mnt  but when i mount .bin file i get error
[07:31] <Persi> thanks, and I`m actually on xubuntu ;)
[07:31] <chaitan3> husayn__, does ir have a .cue file too?
[07:31] <grinsys> I use it. Its not what it doesn't offer. But it uses a lightface launcher..while ubuntu does. but its the same thing otherwise..
[07:31] <chaitan3> husayn__, ir=it
[07:32] <husayn__> ya it has a cue too
[07:33] <andrew_> Looking for a wireless whiz, having issue with wireless on a fresh install...please help!
[07:33] <chaitan3> husayn__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages
[07:33] <SeViLLa> andrew_: sorry i dont know then keep trying good luck
[07:35] <chaitan3> husayn__, you'll have to convert bin/cue to iso and then mount the iso
[07:35] <husayn__> thanks chaitan3
[07:36] <vbhide> hi there, I'm trying to download a bittorrent client, and not one can be installed on feisty
[07:36] <andrew_> i believe azureus works with feisty
[07:37] <QPrime> vbhide: feisty is almost eol... time to upgrade ;)
[07:37] <vbhide> ok :) ...
[07:37] <vbhide> too lazy
[07:38] <raddad> change is evil LOL
[07:38] <gogeta> bo
[07:38] <TeslaTony> vbhide: You can also give rtorrent a shot. It's somewhat annoying, since it's command-line based, but may avoid some compatibility issues
[07:39] <gogeta> teslatony transmission
[07:39] <TeslaTony> (it's also just plain a really sweet client)
[07:39] <TeslaTony> Never tried that one
[07:39] <vineeth> my fire fox is offline on default so i want to manually unchececk it always can u make my firefox online permanently
[07:39] <gogeta> teslatony has good stuff like encryption
[07:40] <defrysk> qtorrent is nice
[07:40] <vineeth> helooo any body help me
[07:40] <TeslaTony> gogeta: So does rtorrent. Think transmission would work on feisty?
[07:40] <gogeta> teslatony in the repos i beleve
[07:41] <mib_4216usrg> Hi. Total noob. First time Ubuntu user. First time IRC user. Having trouble with my wireless. Anyone willing and able to help?
[07:41] <tudor> hello, im switching to ubuntu from archlinux, I just want a barebones install with no xorg, no kde or gnome, etc.. should I use the server cd?
[07:41] <elhugodor> sure
[07:41] <DigitalKiwi> !ask
[07:41] <defrysk> tudor, something like that yes
[07:41] <elhugodor> lol give him a break he's a n00b
[07:42] <thor> elros_azothi2: ok i figured it out
[07:42] <tudor> defrysk: can you be more definite? or is installing with the server cd the way to go?
[07:43] <tudor> or should i use the minimal desktop cd?
[07:43] <elhugodor> hey anyone have any ideas for this conundrum: My school just cracked down super hard on their internet policy
[07:43] <thor> elros_azothi2: it was trying to d/l it from the install cd...and wasnt giving me any errors to use it
[07:43] <bullgard4> "~$lsmod | sort" output includes a line: "snd_seq  54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event". What does mean the '6'?
[07:43] <vineeth> my browser firefox is always offline how can i permanently make it online?
[07:43] <gogeta> ﻿elhugodor proxys
[07:43] <elhugodor> they block every port useful, 6667,20,21,22
[07:44] <gogeta> proxys
[07:44] <elhugodor> proxy no good, blocked all web based proxy
[07:44] <elhugodor> my best bet is tunneling
[07:44] <thor> underground...
[07:44] <gogeta> proxys
[07:44] <vineeth> heloooo?
[07:44] <thor> cant stop it
[07:44] <gogeta> lol
[07:44] <DigitalKiwi> ssh over that port that htmls uses
[07:44] <elhugodor> however, I'm unable to ssh into my box due to so many ports blocked
[07:44] <tudor> is there another ubuntu channel geared towards more high-end users?
[07:44] <raddad> vineeth: try the preferences section of firefox for that option
[07:44] <gogeta> non web based
[07:44] <elhugodor> tried 21
[07:44] <elhugodor> that's the ftp port
[07:44] <elhugodor> didn't work
[07:44] <Sagaci> tudor: #ubuntu-leet
[07:45] <elhugodor> blocked
[07:45] <tudor> Sagaci: seriously
[07:45] <elhugodor> i'm trying 80 and 139 tomorrow
[07:45] <thor> telnet 0,o
[07:45] <Sagaci> tutor: no
[07:45] <elhugodor> 80 is http and 139 is netbios i know they can't block that
[07:45] <elhugodor> telnet no go
[07:45] <elhugodor> blocked
[07:45] <thor> what about other random ports
[07:45] <gogeta> port scan
[07:45] <elhugodor> that's my best bet
[07:46] <elhugodor> installed nmap
[07:46] <elhugodor> 139 open
[07:46] <elhugodor> tryin that
[07:46] <DigitalKiwi> ssh over that port that htmls uses
[07:46] <Jones-K> How to set UTF-8 on fstab with ntfs-3g? mount -a changes type to fuseblk and utf-8 isn't listed on the options anymore
[07:46] <DigitalKiwi> har only https
[07:46]  * DigitalKiwi is tired
[07:46] <elhugodor> i can only try once a day cause every time i have to go home and reconfigure my box because i can't access it remotely
[07:47] <elhugodor> https might work yea
[07:47] <elhugodor> 8080 right?
[07:47] <DigitalKiwi> no
[07:47] <gogeta> utf-8 is old and unused with the new ntfs-3g
[07:47] <elhugodor> i mean 1080?
[07:47] <DigitalKiwi> no
[07:47] <DigitalKiwi> it's four hundred something
[07:47] <gogeta> even if you enable it it will ignor it
[07:47] <elhugodor> 443?
[07:47] <DigitalKiwi> yeah
[07:47] <Jones-K> gogeta: ok, so what does it use?
[07:47] <gogeta> knothing
[07:47] <elhugodor> yea that is it
[07:47] <Niphyr> Hey guys, had bad experiences with iptables so safest to ask. How can I block all traffic to port 123 EXCEPT from the IP 1.2.3.4?
[07:47] <gogeta> not nedded
[07:48] <elhugodor> is there any way to get sshd to listen on more than one port?
[07:48] <DigitalKiwi> yes
[07:48] <Jones-K> is it going to work with scandic characters
[07:48] <krishnan> \join #wordpress
[07:48] <DigitalKiwi> other way ;p
[07:48] <gogeta> should
[07:48] <krishnan> iam planning to start an online newspaper. the server will hardy server edition. should i use wordpress, joomla or media wiki? please guide me.
[07:48] <vineeth> sorry i dont see anything in preference section raddad
[07:48] <elhugodor> if i could get ssh to run on more than one port I could knock off more ports each day
[07:48] <Jones-K> gogeta, ok, thanks
[07:49] <elhugodor> sshd*
[07:49] <raddad> krishnan:  try your other slash to change channels
[07:49] <vineeth> any body pls help me to make my browser firefox online permenently
[07:49] <raddad> vineeth: try the preferences section of firefox for that option
[07:50] <ynk> hi guys. i'm having a lot of trouble installing the radeon hd plugin i downloaded from http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/240286/ati-radeon-hd-2400-hd-2600-hd-2900-xt-hd-3850-hd-3870-driver-8.430-windows-xp(x32-x64)-free-download.html
[07:50] <krishnan> raddad:merci
[07:50] <ynk> i mean driver.. not plugin.
[07:50] <gogeta> ynk LOL!!!!!
[07:50] <vineeth> raddad pls tell where in preference?
[07:50] <gogeta> look at that file and think
[07:50] <ynk> gogeta, hehe
[07:51] <DigitalKiwi> elhugodor:
[07:51] <DigitalKiwi>        Port   Specifies the port number that sshd(8) listens on.  The default is 22.  Multiple options of this type are permitted.  See also ListenAddress.
[07:51] <DigitalKiwi> from man sshd_config
[07:51] <ynk> gogeta, i'm not sure what you mean. i merely did a google search on finding a driver for my radeon hd 2600xt.
[07:51] <gogeta> ynk think
[07:51] <ynk> gogeta, do you mena that the site doesn't look legit?
[07:51] <gogeta> ynk sites fine
[07:52] <gogeta> ynk what os are we running
[07:52] <vineeth> anybody pls help me to make my firefox online permenently
[07:52] <gogeta> ynk lol
[07:52] <ynk> gogeta, OMG!
[07:52] <gogeta> LOL
[07:52] <ynk> gogeta, wow. i am a total idiot!
[07:53] <ynk> gogeta, thanks pal. LoL
[07:53] <gogeta> ynk lol i was wating for it to catch lol
[07:53] <ynk> but now i must find the right drivers. -sigh-
[07:53] <gogeta> look n the ati site
[07:53] <gogeta> on
[07:53] <ynk> k
[07:54] <gogeta> or
[07:54] <gogeta> ynk apt-get install fglx
[07:54] <halycon> hey everyone does anyone know why sometimes when I power on my computer my wireless connection doesn't try to connect automatically, everyonce in a while I will have to manually tell it to connect.
[07:54] <gogeta> ubuntu ati drivers
[07:55] <ynk> gogeta, "couldn't find package fglx"
[07:55] <ynk> well, let me have a look on the radeon site really quick...
[07:56] <remu> I just installed gwibber (tried from both the regular repos as well as the gwibber team's PPA) and it keeps crashing from both sources. Heres the output from gwibber 0.80 (the version from the Jaunty repos): http://pastebin.com/d49dacd6e
[07:56] <gogeta> ynk sudo  apt-get install fglrx
[07:57] <ynk> gogeta, couldn't find that package either.
[07:57] <gogeta> wtf
[07:57] <Gadu> alright, got a new PC and installed Ubuntu LTS. the device manager nvidia drivers wouldn't work for me so I downloaded the one I needed from the nvidia site.
[07:58] <pretender> using storage device manager what does the remove button do
[07:58] <gajan> Hi All
[07:58] <Gadu> after stopping gdm, installing the drivers, and starting it back up again. everything worked great. however, if I reboot I go back to low graphics mode.
[07:58] <mrjohnsen> Hi. This Ubuntu 8.04 Server is locking me out. Can't log in at all. I think this happend after i copied from a partition to the / partition. http://www.mrjohnsen.net/problem.jpg
[07:59] <BBT> hey, so, I have a quick question
[07:59] <Gadu> reinstalling the drivers the same way gets me back in to graphics properly so I've also tried a few time saving the xorg.conf with nvidia-settings. that also has not worked
[07:59] <BBT> it seems like building from source is avoided for Ubuntu
[07:59] <BBT> is this true?
[08:00] <Gadu> BBT: building from source works fine, I do it when I feel it necessary. though most things are more easily accessible via deb
[08:00] <BBT> hmm
[08:00] <BBT> not mono 2.4
[08:00] <gajan> I wanted to know is there any software for ubuntu that reads from a english text file  or pdf and gives audio output
[08:00] <BBT> :-(
[08:01] <zhurai> I personally find that using .deb files just was there to make it easier for newer users to adapt to ubuntu/linux, but I could be dead wrong there o_o
[08:01] <Nytrix> can some1 help with external HD? it was working before but now i can see it!
[08:01] <Gadu> BBT: did you `sudo aptitude install build-essential` ?
[08:01] <DigitalKiwi> you don't want to see it? :P
[08:01] <BBT> no, I could try that
[08:01] <zhurai> that...
[08:01] <zhurai> would be the reason
[08:02] <zhurai> I'd think >_>;
[08:02] <zhurai> -_-
[08:02] <Gadu> BBT: it's required for building from source
[08:02] <Gadu> XD
[08:02] <BBT> oh, well I must already have it because I've built from source before
[08:02] <zhurai> it's the package with make, etc with it
[08:02] <BBT> but I think it screwed up the distro's version of mono
[08:02] <BBT> after I did make install
[08:02] <oliver_> Hi all im just wondering when im at work how do i connect through remote desktop to this computer? its jsut that this computer is running through a router so ip address is 10.0.0.2 or something like that how would i connect directly to this computer?
[08:03] <Gadu> oliver_: forward port 5900 in your router settings to your PC
[08:03] <Gadu> oliver_: then use realvnc or vncviewer to connect from work to your IP
[08:04] <gajan> I wanted to know is there any software for ubuntu that reads from a english text file  or pdf and gives audio output ?
[08:05] <oliver_> Gadu, am i able to use the standard Win XP remote access software?
[08:05] <ynk> what are the disadvantages of installing Ubuntu within an existing windows installation?
[08:05] <Gadu> gajan: I don't know any off the top of my head but at the very least I know there are websites that are able to do that (I use a french one)
[08:05] <Gadu> oliver_: you won't be able to use the winXP remove software to connect to your home ubuntu install
[08:06] <Kesman_> yet
[08:06] <pretender> in PySDM what does the remove button do
[08:06] <Gadu> oliver_: you may be better off installing ubuntu with qemu on a usb device and using that at work?
[08:06] <gajan> Gadu : Can u pls give me the url of some of them ?
[08:07] <gajan> Gadu : as i am googling for some time on this
[08:07] <Gadu> gajan: I can give you a french one lol
[08:07] <Gadu> gajan: I found that one through google
[08:07] <oliver_> Gadu, oh right the xp remote desktop dosen't allow sharing its just remote desktop
[08:08] <gajan> Gadu : Ok , let me try once more . Thanks
[08:08] <bugfux> I am getting the following error trying to install apache:
[08:08] <bugfux> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main libssl-dev 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.4
[08:08] <bugfux>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]
[08:08] <Niphyr> hmmm, hey guys, had bad experiences with iptables so safest to ask. How can I block all traffic to port 123 EXCEPT from the IP 1.2.3.4?
[08:08] <bugfux> I can ping archive.ubuntu
[08:09] <Gadu> bugfux: I'll check for you, 1 sec
[08:09] <bugfux> k
[08:09] <bugfux> thank you
[08:09] <ynk> which compiler do you guys recommend on this OS? ..or does everyone just use GEdit?
[08:10] <ynk> for developing with Java..
[08:10] <ynk> sorry. left that part out.
[08:10] <fsufitch> hi. i need some help. i have 300 photos out of which i need to create contact sheets of 35 photos per page, with the filename under each photo. however, ubuntu does not seem to have a tool who can accomplish such a task, in its base programs or repos. the gimp contact sheet plugin crashes, and gthumb can't display the filename without the entire path. does anyone know any other program i can use?
[08:10] <Gadu> ynk: I used gedit for editing the code and gcj for compiling
[08:11] <ynk> gcj..? interesting.
[08:11] <oliver_> Gadu, can u try to connect to my computer via remote desktop plz?
[08:11] <H_M-Ubuntu> I have a problem with emerald, can I paste a link to a screenshot (.png) giving a description of the problem?
[08:11] <Gadu> ynk: works like gcc but for java
[08:11] <ynk> gadu, it comes with the distro, right?
[08:11] <H_M-Ubuntu> I've searched nearly everywhere, and no one seems to be having the same problem.
[08:11] <Gadu> ynk: sudo aptitude install gcj
[08:12] <ynk> gadu, ah. ok.. any major differences between that compiler and the ones by Sun?
[08:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> No ideas?....
[08:13] <Gadu> ynk: mostly just that gcj is terminal based
[08:13] <ziroday> !imagebin | H_M-Ubuntu
[08:13] <ynk> gadu, good enough for me. thanks.
[08:14] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: but you should be aware that emerald is no longer supported or maintained by the compiz project and they strongly recommend you don't use it
[08:14] <bugfux> Gadu: any ideas?
[08:14] <H_M-Ubuntu> I already have my own link, it's on a website I trust and love dearly (An opensource game development community' website)
[08:14] <H_M-Ubuntu> I'll post the link then?
[08:14] <kbp> Can any1 confirm that Pidgin 2.5.5 cannot connect to MSN on ubuntu? It has been more than 1 day
[08:14] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: sure, but I doubt anyone will help you
[08:14] <H_M-Ubuntu> http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/images/y5ictabhlfdj5ku91yh.png
[08:14] <oliver_> Can someone test my remote access plz
[08:14] <Gadu> oliver_: sure
[08:15] <ziroday> kbp: one sec
[08:15] <Gadu> bugfux: almost there
[08:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well how do I use Compiz themes (Which I prefer greatly to GTK2.0) on Ubuntu 8.10 then?
[08:15] <bugfux> oh okay didnt know it took so long
[08:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> I made my own, that I rather love.
[08:16] <kbp> ziroday: how did u go?
[08:16] <ziroday> kbp: install the msn-pecan package and switch your provider to WLM
[08:16] <mrjohnsen> Hi. This Ubuntu 8.04 Server is locking me out. Can't log in at all. I think this happend after i copied from a partition to the / partition. http://www.mrjohnsen.net/problem.jpg
[08:16] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: you mean emerald themes?
[08:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> Yeah
[08:17] <kbp> ziroday: thanks alot i will do it
[08:17] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: well you can't, if there is an emerald bug its extremely unlikely to get fixed as nobody maintains or supports that software anymore
[08:17] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: you can try recreate your window theme in metacity
[08:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> :(
[08:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well it isn't incredibly noticeable.
[08:18] <H_M-Ubuntu> I'll get over it
[08:18] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: sure, thats your choice
[08:18] <TeslaTony> Right now I'm having an interesting issue with sound. I'm running 8.10, and if I leave either Exaile or VLC open and on pause (or at a disk menu) for too long, my sound dies. Any idea how I can fix it without rebooting? How to stop it from happening?
[08:18] <psypher246> can anyone please tell me how to restart nm-applet in intrepid, i've been goolging for ages and cannot find anything, thanks
[08:18] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well no.... I'll get over it by fixing it myself... I am a programmer, so why not?
[08:18] <H_M-Ubuntu> :X
[08:18] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: then even better
[08:19] <oliver_> gadu: how come win xp access dosen't work wtih ubuntu?
[08:19] <ziroday> psypher246: killasll nm-applet && nm-applet
[08:19] <Gadu> gadu: the protocol is different
[08:19] <ziroday> psypher246: err s/killasll/killall
[08:19] <Gadu> gadu: think of it as 2 people that speak a different language trying to communicate
[08:20] <oliver_> gadu: ah yeah i see, uses completely different algorithms to communicate
[08:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> Gadu: Question...... why are you talking to yourself
[08:20] <raddad> lol
[08:20] <Gadu> H_AM-Ubuntu: aha, ty
[08:20] <Gadu> XD
[08:20] <oliver_> H_M-Ubuntu, copy and paste maybe?
[08:20] <oliver_> :D
[08:20] <psypher246> ziroday: nope still get network manager is not connected and this on the console: ** (nm-applet:17742): WARNING **: nm_client_get_devices: error getting devices: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files
[08:21] <ziroday> psypher246: tried restarting?
[08:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> :)
[08:21] <psypher246> why?
[08:21] <psypher246> i shouldn't have to and i want to klnow how
[08:21] <psypher246> so annoying, it keeps changing every new ubuntu
[08:21] <ziroday> psypher246: sure, try do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:21] <psypher246> done it already
[08:21] <ziroday> psypher246: and its to find out if that error is even related to network manager running or not
[08:22] <psypher246> shouldn't i be doing it with dbus>?
[08:22] <ziroday> psypher246: are you an application?
[08:22] <psypher246> all i did was restart hal according to a howto to get multitouch working and since then network manager is dead
[08:23] <ziroday> psypher246: right, and its extrememly hard to get network manager working again. The simplest way is to restart
[08:23] <Gadu> bugfux: I have been unable to recreate your problem. `sudo aptitude install apache2` worked multiple times for me using hardy
[08:23] <bugfux> hmm
[08:23] <ziroday> psypher246: what does nm-tool output?
[08:23] <bugfux>  install apache2-prefork-dev libapr1-dev
[08:23] <bugfux> is the command im running
[08:23] <Gadu> alright, I'll try those
[08:24] <psypher246> ziroday: it's really dumb, such an important thing should be easily restarted
[08:25] <Gadu> bugfux: I see, it failed
[08:25] <bugfux> okay cool
[08:25] <bugfux> now what? :)
[08:26] <bugfux> oh wait an update fixed it
[08:26] <Gadu> XD
[08:26] <kraut> moin
[08:27] <bugfux> sorry, should have tried that before
[08:27] <bugfux> appreciate all the help
[08:27] <bugfux> your a saint
[08:27] <Gadu> anytime =o
[08:28] <psypher246> ziroday: NetworkManager appears not to be running (could not get its state).
[08:28] <psypher246> ziroday: nm=tool
[08:30] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?
[08:30] <Gadu> so anyone know why my new PCs graphics work immediately after installing them and starting gdm but not after a reboot (also tried saving xorg.conf with nvidia-settings)
[08:31] <DigitalKiwi> did you actually save xorg.conf with nvidia-settings
[08:32] <saulus> I need to find the source of the original image-set out of which some icons are used in my project. I clearly identified my projects "save" button to look similar to /usr/share/qt4/doc/src/images/linguist-filesave.png. This seems to originate the same set. Where do I find this set? Just have a look at: saulus.dyndns.org/~david/linguist-filesave.png and saulus.dyndns.org/~david/save.png. The icons in my project are local copies without a note where
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> you have to gksudo nvidia-settings
[08:32] <Gadu> DigitalKiwi: yes, 2 times (one using 60 refresh and the other using auto)
[08:32] <Gadu> DigitalKiwi: yep, that's how I lauched it as well
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> k
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> hmm
[08:33] <Gadu> DigitalKiwi: both the xorg.conf generated by the driver install and nvidia-settings fail
[08:33] <H_M-Ubuntu> Did y'all notice YouTube is upside down?... Just pointing it out :X
[08:33] <Gadu> DigitalKiwi: yet my graphics work perfectly when I start gdm manually after (re-)installing the nvidia driver
[08:33] <jove> HI all, how can I get connect a  different CHAT server from Ubuntu server ?
[08:34] <ljvs> looking for a linux distro that is basic.  no programs added aside from gnu/linux.  preferably not debian
[08:34] <H_M-Ubuntu> Jove: What client?
[08:34] <gogeta> jove  /server
[08:34] <tudor> is there a difference between the server kernel and the desktop kernel?
[08:34] <H_M-Ubuntu> ljvs, Arch Linux
[08:34] <ljvs> and i already know about arch
[08:34] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hmmm well Vector Linux?
[08:35] <H_M-Ubuntu> No wait Vector has KDE
[08:35] <jove> gogeta, I meant to join to different server
[08:35] <ljvs> ok will check it out. thanks....but kde doesn't have to be debian
[08:35] <ljvs> o right....nevermind
[08:35] <ljvs> i forgot my question
[08:35] <tudor> i want to install ubuntu without kde or gnome or anything else, just the basic linux install
[08:35] <tudor> and manually install what i want
[08:35] <ljvs> tudor: that's my question
[08:35] <tudor> namely, awesome as the wm
[08:35] <DigitalKiwi> tudor: investigate arch linux
[08:35] <gogeta> jove do you mean chat
[08:35] <tudor> i tried arch but it's very unstable
[08:35] <jove> h_m_Ubuntu, what do U meant client ?
[08:35] <H_M-Ubuntu> Arch Linux has no window manager (No KDE, no Gnome, no apps, no nothing)
[08:35] <DigitalKiwi> hmph
[08:35] <H_M-Ubuntu> It's a clean slate.
[08:35] <tudor> been using it for 4 months now
[08:35] <DigitalKiwi> ubuntu server then
[08:36] <tudor> as a server and a desktop
[08:36] <ljvs> DigitalKiwi: anything else than arch linux?
[08:36] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?
[08:36] <tudor> im installing ubuntu server now in VirtualBox to test it out
[08:36] <DigitalKiwi> arch is the best :<
[08:36] <tudor> but im wondering if ubuntu server's kernel is configured more for server purposes rather than desktop
[08:36] <DigitalKiwi> ljvs: maybe slack
[08:36] <tudor> and if there will be any performance hit for desktop use
[08:36] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: What IRC client are you using? (E.G. XChat, Konversation, KVIRC)
[08:37] <jove> gogeta, for example, I want to join a different server "cluster.org"
[08:37] <tudor> and does ubuntu server use the same package repositories as desktop edition?
[08:37] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: IRSSI even. But the general command for switch networks is /server <server name>
[08:37] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, XCHAT
[08:37] <Shoopuf> Are there any XMPP chat clients for Ubuntu that support voice chat? (I'm looking for the best alternative to GoogleTalk, for Linux)
[08:37] <Gadu> tudor: as far as I know, they have the same repos they just have different default packages and a different installer
[08:37] <tudor> Gadu: excellent
[08:37] <tudor> then server is what I want
[08:38] <Shoopuf> I just tried Prism with GoogleTalk but the font size was pretty awkward.
[08:38] <H_M-Ubuntu> ljvs: I just remembered something, Ubuntu Server has no GUI and no extra applications. You can use the terminal to install all the things you want.
[08:38] <Gadu> Gadu: you can also opt for the alternate installer available
[08:38] <ljvs> slack still seems to complicated. i need a usable minimal desktop that will let me learn linux
[08:38] <H_M-Ubuntu> Ubuntu Desktop has all the bloat
[08:38] <ljvs> ubuntu server sounds great.
[08:38] <disappearedng> Hey everyone How do i get irssi to use proxy? I read the documentation but it doesn't really help.. my proxy server is located on my other computer
[08:38] <ljvs> anything that is not debian?
[08:38] <tudor> yeah i just installed it
[08:38] <tudor> in VirtualBox will configure everything and see how it is
[08:38] <bugfux> I cant install git via apt-get
[08:38] <bugfux> ?
[08:38] <tudor> but stay away from Arch if you want simplicity
[08:39] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, from this Ubuntu here, how do I connect to other server (IRC)
[08:39] <tudor> half the packages you want aren't supported directly in arch you have to use AUR
[08:39] <tudor> which is a bitch
[08:39] <DigitalKiwi> tudor: wut
[08:39] <tudor> and the community is quite small
[08:39] <DigitalKiwi> yaourt
[08:39] <tudor> yeah yaourt is a bitch too
[08:39] <DigitalKiwi> the community isn't really that small
[08:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Type in /server <server you want>
[08:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> In XChat chat window
[08:39] <DigitalKiwi> and it is incredibly helpful
[08:39] <tudor> the PKGBUILD files always contain the wrong versions, and you have to edit it, etc..
[08:40] <tudor> it's annoying
[08:40] <Shoopuf> Anyone know if Google's Picasa is native to Linux or does it have some sort of WINE encapsulation?
[08:40] <DigitalKiwi> I see problems get fixed there a lot faster than here, no offense
[08:40] <tudor> Shoopuf: native
[08:40] <DigitalKiwi> tudor: wut
[08:40] <Shoopuf> tudor: thanks... I am trying to switch to Ubuntu and really need my Picasa :P
[08:40] <DigitalKiwi> you still get more up to date packages than ubuntu
[08:40] <tudor> that isn;'t necessarily a good thing
[08:40] <tudor> stability is important
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi> you can't have both!
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi> and if you read the news and know what you shouldn't upgrade you can be stable
[08:41] <tudor> I'm saying more packages seem to be included in apt-get than in arch's pacman
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi> usage: uptime [-V]
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi>     -V    display version
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi>  02:41:35 up 142 days,  3:54,  8 users,  load average: 1.30, 1.61, 1.66
[08:41] <Shoopuf> That's my current beef with Ubuntu so far, I gotta manually upgrade stuff (like from Pidgin 2.5.2 to Pidgin 2.5.5) ... I figured it was supposed to do that with sudo apt-get update...
[08:42] <DigitalKiwi> i think it would be a few months longer but I upgraded the kernel a while back
[08:43] <Shoopuf> Anyone know if there's a screenlet or Gnome Panel plugin to show motherboard/GPU temperature? I saw the GPU temperature in the "NVidia X Server Settings" but didn't see a way of showing it on the desktop.
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> conky?
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> might do it
[08:43] <Shoopuf> DigitalKiwi: ok i'll check it out, thanks
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> s/might/probably will/
[08:44] <kravlin> Shoopuf: Conky
[08:44] <Doctor_Nick> MAYBE
[08:44] <Doctor_Nick> NO!
[08:44] <kravlin> Shoopuf: It does it. I have it running right now
[08:44] <Shoopuf> kravlin: thanks, googlin for it now :)
[08:44] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, how to connect to the channel after access to the server ?
[08:44] <sparky1492>  Heys Guys,  I have been fighting with netatalk for the last week trying to set it up on my server.  I test installed it on my desktop with success but i can not replicate it on my server.  Any suggests??  I have Googled the crap out of netatalk and can not find one up to date.'
[08:45] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Type /join #(Channel name here)
[08:45] <kravlin> Shoopuf: it's in the repositories
[08:45] <darthanubis> I broke my apache
[08:45] <darthanubis> I no long get  "It works!"
[08:45] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, is the syntax like this:  /server <server name>  /join #channel ?
[08:46] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?
[08:47] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: No, just type the server name in, then once connect type the join command
[08:47] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: To disconnect from a server, type /quit <Optional quit message>
[08:47] <JustKemp> hi
[08:48] <syockit> H_M-Ubuntu: hmm... if you're not connected to any other server, wouldn't that also exit the program?
[08:48] <{g}> Hey People! How can I see if a lines in a textfile end with LF or "CR LF"?
[08:48] <{g}> Should I use some hex editor or something?
[08:48] <JustKemp> i have a printer, a canon mp240. it doesnt work on ubuntu, and i dont know how to get the drivers. could anyone help?
[08:48] <H_M-Ubuntu> syockit, Not sure. Never tried it honestly.
[08:49] <glovan> halow
[08:49] <H_M-Ubuntu> syockit, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't, it would just disconnect.
[08:50] <kravlin> anyone able to help (message above, yes i'm spamming, yes i'm sorry, no i won't do it again)
[08:50] <DigitalKiwi> use wicd
[08:50] <DigitalKiwi> is my recommendation
[08:50] <saulus> which are the packages that contain /usr/share/icons stuff? I need them ALL
[08:50] <syockit> {g}: i think vi has the option to show linebreaks
[08:51] <JustKemp> anybody?
[08:51] <divxclub> hey there !
[08:51] <kravlin> JustKemp: sytem>administration>printing
[08:51] <saulus> {g}: please no amsgs. #vim helps you a lot
[08:52] <JustKemp> yes?
[08:52] <divxclub> does anyone can point me to online source for good commercial games I can get for Ubuntu please ? Thank you
[08:52] <{g}> saulus: amsgs?
[08:52] <kravlin>  add printer?
[08:52] <JustKemp> yeah
[08:52] <saulus> {g}: messages in all channels
[08:52] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, the join syntax does not work yet...Do i need to have the port numer ?
[08:52] <kravlin> JustKemp: new printer, find the printer and set it up.
[08:53] <kravlin> JustKemp: should Autodetect
[08:53] <BigMoopies> I messed up and ran nautlius under XFCE and now the desktop wont show up correctly, is there a way to fix this?
[08:53] <BigMoopies> or is this a Xubuntu question only
[08:53] <JustKemp> yeah. it cant find no drivers
[08:53] <JustKemp> i downloaded them. found the one that i supposedly need, and it didnt work
[08:54] <JustKemp> gotta go anyway. neva mind
[08:54] <kravlin> gah. and i'd just found the solution on that too.
[08:55] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?
[08:55] <BigMoopies> Is it possible to reset the xubuntu-desktop , or uninstall/reinstall ?
[08:55] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, are U still there ?
[08:56] <glovan> halow
[08:57] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Join is very simple, type /join #channel and replace channel with the channel you want to join. (Example, #ubuntu)
[08:57] <akm1> hi.. im running windows using virtualbox in ububntu in fullscreen mode...but while logging sending ctrl-alt-del doesn't do anything to it...
[08:58] <akm1> any idea whats the issue...
[08:58] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: What is your host key? (Default is Right Control button)
[08:58] <jove> h_m-Ubuntu, once i access to the server, it asked for the port number .
[08:59] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Oh that's a different story, type /server <Server>:6667
[08:59] <UKGent> TheSheep I notice now that if you use 'info' on the terminal - it seems to go straight into emacs ?
[09:00] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: 6667 is the default port on IRC servers, anything from 6666 to 7000 should work.
[09:00] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu,  I get  fullscreen with no panels...how to get it back the panel
[09:00] <UKGent> xfce4 panel
[09:00] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: You're on your Windows guest I assume?
[09:01] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, im running virtual machine from ubuntu...
[09:01] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, thx...let me try....one more question: from this ubuntu, when i access to the other server, then it disconnect this #ubuntu, I could not get back to this #ubuntu, how should I prevent it ?
[09:01] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: Yes, Ubuntu is your host (The thing running virtual box), and Windows is your guest (The thing running INSIDE virtual box).
[09:02] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, yeah..
[09:02] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Type /newserver to open a new server window
[09:02] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work (wireless does) because supposedly it's not configured. can someone help?
[09:02] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: Hit right ctrl + F, that should close fullscreen.. err exit fullscreen, rather.
[09:03] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: Assuming you didn't change any of the default binds, that will work
[09:03] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: Also, to fix your Ctrl + Alt + Delete problem, try using the LEFT Control button, and right Alt + Del.
[09:03] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, thanks a lot...its working
[09:04] <kravlin> somehow i don't think anyone knows an answer to my problem.
[09:04] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: No problem :) Further, have you installed guest additions on Windows?
[09:05] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, no.. i havnt installed...
[09:05] <sparky1492> Can someone read thsi log and tell me what is going on? why it is erroring
[09:05] <sparky1492> http://paste.ubuntu.com/141912/
[09:05] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all
[09:06] <ravn1> hi guys: I have a printing problem. We have a printing system at work with a printer server the uses kerberos. At the same time I have a printer at home that I want to use. The instructions for the printing system is http://www.chalmers.se/its/EN/documentation/printing/printing-with-self4993 which I followed but then I cannot print - the print button in any program is gray. Any suggestions? Also the printer I have at home, how do I install th
[09:07] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: I recommend it, it is very useful. Care to install it now? All it basically does is add integration between the host OS and the guest OS. Such as mouse integration (The mouse and keyboard automatically are selected), Seamless mode (Ubuntu GNOME and Windows DWM are paralelled together), and other features.
[09:07] <kravlin> i reinstalled network manager, now my  wired internet doesn't work. If i run ifdown i get interface eth0 not configured. can someone help?
[09:08] <shawn> wazzup
[09:09] <Jimi_Neutral> first of all is there a way to turn off all the notifications in this Xchat client?
[09:10] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, how to install it ?
[09:10] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: One sec i'll write out step by step instructions
[09:10] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, ty
[09:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: In the window holding the VM, click Devices > Install Guest Additions, It will mount a CD in Windows. If you don't have autorun on, the dialog won't pop up by default, so go to Start > (My) Computer > (Whatever CD drive) and open up the 32bit installer.
[09:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> akm1: Then go through the on screen instructions, and reboot when done. They should be installed and you will see the results immediately.
[09:13] <sharktooth> hello all
[09:13] <SYST3M32> Man this sucks
[09:13] <jove> hi
[09:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> sharktooth, Hello
[09:13] <kravlin> ok. now eth0 isn't even appearing in ifconfig. can someone please help before i destroy my install?
[09:13] <SYST3M32> 7 can of red bull and still can't get this working
[09:13] <SYST3M32> yea
[09:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> SYST3M32, How can I help?
[09:14] <SYST3M32> I can't get my wifi to work to save my life
[09:14] <SYST3M32> My laptops a Toshiba L45-S7423
[09:14] <SYST3M32> The wireless card shows up in ifconfig
[09:14] <SYST3M32> but in sysinfo it doesnt show up
[09:15] <jove> h_M-Ubntu, it does not work once access to the server...which asked to register the nickname, but I've already had it with XCHAT from window XP.
[09:15] <SYST3M32> and network manager is all fubared
[09:15] <SYST3M32> I think I need drivers but can't find any
[09:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> Oh don't ask me about wireless stuff SYST3M32.. The last time I messed with wireless, I opened up blender and made an animation of me shooting myself..... I watched the animation thousands of times over, at 17 different angles.
[09:15] <sharktooth> can u set an ip address with ifconfig?
[09:15] <SYST3M32> then im screwed
[09:16] <shawn> set ip with your router sharktooth :P
[09:16] <H_M-Ubuntu> SYST3M32, Ask again, maybe someone else knows the answer.
[09:16] <jove> h_m-ubuntu,
[09:16] <sharktooth> no i was asking system 32 :)
[09:16] <SYST3M32> hmm idk
[09:16] <H_M-Ubuntu> SYST3M32, Did you try the Ubuntu Forums? Maybe someone already has a post about the same laptop, or a similar one.
[09:17] <kravlin> SYSTEM32: same here. I've been asking a good 30-40 mins but i haven't even gotten a response. sorry dude. If i knew about networking i'd help.
[09:17] <SYST3M32> im a linux newb to be honest
[09:17] <shawn> oooooooopsies ;)
[09:17] <SYST3M32> gf had roidrage and slamed her fist on my laptop
[09:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Join #Freenode for general IRC help
[09:17] <shawn> 1 am here. i have an excuse.... at least i make myself think that hah
[09:17] <SYST3M32> something happened to my windows partition and it wouldnt boot up
[09:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Or try #help on the network that you're trying to access.
[09:17] <sharktooth> well, ok ifconfig shows that interface as what?
[09:17] <jove>  h_m-Ubuntu, it does not work once access to the server...which asked to register the nickname, but I've already had it with XCHAT from window XP.
[09:18] <akm1> H_M-Ubuntu, thanks ..will try that...i dont have window cd right nw...
[09:18] <SYST3M32> and only my ubuntu partition works so i figure i'm stuf with it
[09:18] <shawn> so anyone a web guru? need help with awstats :P
[09:18] <SYST3M32> stupid IO error...
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: boot to recover root console and fsck, then scandisk your windows partition in windows safe mode
[09:18] <AussieGuy> I want my machine to be able to send emails from php scripts, but I also dont want it to be wide open for spammers
[09:18] <H_M-Ubuntu> SYST3M32, Meh, i've been there mate.
[09:18] <dayo> how do i change between tabs in gnome-terminal?
[09:18] <AussieGuy> if I installed sendmail-bin, would that be safe?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> AussieGuy: apt-cache search php mail
[09:18] <sharktooth> sys32, whatcha got in ifconfig  (just interface names)
[09:18] <UKGent> SYSTem32 So am I and I have learnt that the quickest route to most solutions is to search the forums. What I usually do is Google my question literally , word for word and append it with Ubuntu Forums - it nearly always finds something
[09:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: Do you mean create a new tab? Or do you mean switch to another tab?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> UKGent: try other searchengines too
[09:19] <kravlin> H_M-Ubuntu: am i being annoying or being ignored? I'm not figuring that anyone knows the answer to my question i'm just suprised nobody's told me to shut up yet.
[09:19] <shawn> shutup!
[09:19] <shawn> j/k
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: wassup?
[09:20] <dayo> H_M-Ubuntu: switch to an existing one, via keyboard shortcut
[09:20] <UKGent> Action - whatever but I don't have any ideological objections to things that work - the fact is Ubuntu has good links on Google - like them or not....
[09:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: Hmmm.... I'm sorry but i'm unaware of that ability. Try checking in the options of terminal for anything like that.
[09:20] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: accidentally uninstalled Network-Manager, then a friend re-setup my wireless and redownloaded it through repositories, now wired network doesn't work at all. atm it's not even appearing in ifconfig
[09:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> kravlin, Honestly I didn't see your question mate. :D I'm sorry, i'll scroll up now.
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> UKGent: true but other search engines use differrent algorithms so may find different sites. Thats alli'm saying
[09:21] <SYST3M32> Hey
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: does it show in: sudo lshw -C network
[09:21] <kravlin> H_M-Ubuntu: i kinda figured that was it. people help others at random and i kinda slipped through the cracks. Thanks for helping. I've got no idea what i'm doing.
[09:21] <dayo> H_M-Ubuntu: /me slaps forehead
[09:21] <SYST3M32> how do i get a more neopunk theme
[09:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> kravlin, Interesting problem. I'm afraid I can't help you on that one.
[09:21] <shawn> anyone here know how to install BitchX in ubuntu?
[09:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: ?
[09:21] <SYST3M32> like black background and green text
[09:21] <dayo> H_M-Ubuntu: it's right there in Tabs in the Menu bar! LOL
[09:22] <dayo> Crtl+PgUp/Dn
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !INFO BITCHX
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !info bitchx
[09:22] <shawn> thx
[09:22] <Caesi> hullo all, how can I connect two monitors at once?
[09:22] <shawn> !INFO BITCHX
[09:22] <shawn> blah
[09:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: Ahh, well I was sure it was in a simple location.
[09:22] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: yeah. it shows up.
[09:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: I think you can change the binds in options, too.
[09:22] <UKGent> Action - Yes - point taken - I use a whole bunch of Search engines - and sometimes meta-search such as Cluster etc etc -  I take your point of course !
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: how about: sudo ifup eth0
[09:22] <H_M-Ubuntu> Yeah under edit > keyboard shortcuts
[09:23] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hey I learned something today! :D
[09:23] <kravlin> Caesi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[09:23] <Jimi_Neutral> Im having real trouble with Clonezilla. When it tried to take the image from the windows machine Ububtu says that the NTFS partition is corrupt. Also when running the image cloner, yo do run it from the box that is being cloned dont you?
[09:23] <dayo> H_M-Ubuntu: yeah, i see it now! thanks! :-D
[09:23] <Caesi> kravlin: thanks
[09:23] <SYST3M32> msg kravlin how are you connecting then?
[09:23] <H_M-Ubuntu> dayo: No problem, even though I didn't /technically/ do anything
[09:23] <H_M-Ubuntu> :X
[09:23] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: Ignoring unkwon interface eth0 = eth0
[09:23] <dayo> H_M-Ubuntu: lol
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: hmm
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> shawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=830388
[09:24] <kravlin> SYSTEM 32: first, you forgot the /. Second, I'm on a second computer, and for some reason, wireless works fine on the laptop i'm working on. they just won't allow wireless routers in the dorms.
[09:24] <SYST3M32> try "sudo su root"
[09:24] <SYST3M32> "lspci"
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: no don't, use sudo -i instead
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: users can run lspci as well
[09:24] <SYST3M32> check to see if its even on the system
[09:25] <shawn> ActionParsnip: thanks but didn't work
[09:25] <SYST3M32> yea
[09:25] <shawn> been there already
[09:25] <SYST3M32> but this makes life simple running as root
[09:25] <sharktooth> or sudo xterm for a root window so u dont have to sudo a 10000 times
[09:25] <SYST3M32> so he doesnt have to use sudo like water
[09:25] <kravlin> SYSTEM32: who are you talking to
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: sudo su doesnt configure the environment correctly so is not right
[09:25] <H_M-Ubuntu> So yeah, I have....... like 35 items in my dock.. I think it's time I close something, don't you agree?
[09:25] <UKGent> Action  The main point is that conducting a Search in conjunction with the Forums, generally homes in on the answer - I always try that now before asking a direct question on IRC.  I find IRC best for very specific operational queries
[09:25] <shawn> get stuck on ./BitchX
[09:25] <H_M-Ubuntu> Nah!!!!! I'll just make the icons smaller!
[09:25] <SYST3M32> lolz
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: sudo -i (interactive) does set it up correctly so will not screw up your file ownerships and access)
[09:26] <SYST3M32> idk
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> shawn: try tab completing the command
[09:26] <SYST3M32> sudo su root always works for me
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: it will break your system
[09:26] <SYST3M32> and i dont have to type sudo sudo sudo get cat sudo
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: sudo su shouldnt work as the root account is disabled
[09:27] <SYST3M32> not on my system:D
[09:27] <Jimi_Neutral> Anyone know much about Clonezilla?
[09:27] <shawn> ActionParsnip: been there done that ;)
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: then you have weakened your system security, well done
[09:27] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip: it works because it's root who's running su
[09:27] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: the computer's a Lenovo thinkpad x61 and the device is apperently a gigabit card from Intel.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: by default (and for many MANY good reasons) the account is disabled
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: sudo su will not work on a normal install and sudo -i is advised
[09:28] <sharktooth> yeah its like a double positive :)
[09:28] <sharktooth> sudo su sudo
[09:28] <sharktooth> :)
[09:28] <SYST3M32> yes i have
[09:28] <SYST3M32> but i can always disable it
[09:28] <tsimpson> ActionParsnip: it does work, but it's pointless
[09:29] <SYST3M32> and i have a 36 character alphanumeric passwd for root
[09:29] <SYST3M32> so i think it will be good
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: does lshw -C network say the device has a module associated with it
[09:29] <ljsoftnet> what's the terminal keyboard shortcut for autocomplete?
[09:29] <SYST3M32> call me nuts
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: you are missing the point
[09:29] <kravlin> ok. this argument is getting rediculous. it's obvious that system's just pushing buttons.
[09:29] <tsimpson> SYST3M32: but a 0 length password is impossible to crack
[09:29] <SYST3M32> but its gonna be a ich on your head to bruteforce that
[09:29] <SYST3M32> i don't think
[09:29] <SYST3M32> anyone has the balls
[09:30] <SYST3M32> to crack them open
[09:30] <UKGent> I was given to understand that it is best not to be root, except as needed - leaves you open to compromise does't it ?  but the great thing about Linux is that we are free to live dangerously , if we want , I suppose !
[09:30] <tsimpson> with no password, you can not crack it
[09:30] <shawn> ActionParsnip: figured it out.... darn typo
[09:30] <cemc> how can i prevent the dhcp client from updating my /etc/resolv.conf
[09:30] <cemc> ?
[09:30] <shawn> ActionParsnip: thx
[09:30] <tsimpson> you have a password set, so it's possible to crack
[09:30] <SYST3M32> yea
[09:30] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: it does.
[09:30] <SYST3M32> with top software
[09:30] <tsimpson> SYST3M32: with a small bot swarm and persistence
[09:31] <SYST3M32> i estimate a 178 years with 1 tb of rainbow tables
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: the root account is disabled to stop users logging in as it and running apps like irc and web brosers which can be attacked, circumvented and taken control of, givi the attacker the priveledges of that program. If a command is running as user its access is significantly reduced so cannot affect the system so badly
[09:31] <SYST3M32> have fun with that
[09:31] <SYST3M32> its my personal pc
[09:31] <tsimpson> SYST3M32: that's still more likely than 0% yes?
[09:31] <SYST3M32> on my personal subnet
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: also if the account is disabled a brute force attack has ZERO percent chance of success
[09:31] <SYST3M32> yea
[09:31] <kravlin> SYST3M32: still possible.
[09:31] <SYST3M32> but whats the fun in that
[09:31] <SYST3M32> log it
[09:31] <SYST3M32> find them
[09:31] <SYST3M32> have fun
[09:31] <FloodBot2> SYST3M32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:31] <SYST3M32> plz be a little more creative
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: as all unix systems have the account it is the first point of attack, by enabling it you have weakened your system
[09:32] <SYST3M32> yea i'm really not worried about it
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: there is nothing a user in the admin group cant do that root can't do
[09:32] <SYST3M32> i have more pressing concerns, like my damn wifi not working
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: you will when someone starts copying your cached passwords over from your system
[09:33] <SYST3M32> yea this is a experimental OS
[09:33] <BrainWav> test
[09:33] <SYST3M32> nothing on here is worth anything
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: anyway, the default (and intelligent) option is root to be disabled, so please do not advise users to sudo su
[09:33] <SYST3M32> and all ports are closed
[09:33] <BrainWav> sweet... BitchX working ;)
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: advise   sudo -i  in future
[09:33] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[09:33] <BrainWav> thx
[09:34] <SYST3M32> well i advise you help me fix my wifi before i help you select users best course of action
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: can you pastebin the output of: lshw -C network
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: usb or pci?
[09:34] <SYST3M32> idk
[09:34] <SYST3M32> I'm thinking its usb
[09:34] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: Through a usb dongle.
[09:35] <SYST3M32> nothing pulls up on sysinfo, and the lights not on showing its active
[09:35] <SYST3M32> yet i can ifconfig it
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: can you pastebin the output of lsusb please
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> sysinfo is not worth much, ifconfig knows better
[09:35] <kravlin> SYST3M32: how would you not know if it's USB? is it inside the case attached somehow?
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <FloodBot2> SYST3M32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <SYST3M32> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:36] <UKGent> I don't really understand the philosophy that in order to be 'creative' you have to act recklessly but if that is what some people think ...  let them get on with it... but if they are that creative , why do they need to ask for help lol
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: use pastebin in future please
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: flooding irc is not cool
[09:36] <SYST3M32> idk what that means
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | SYST3M32
[09:36] <jove> h_m-Ubuntu, are U still there ?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: if i asked you to do something and you don't understand, you should have asked and I would have explained
[09:37] <jove> h_m-ubuntu ?
[09:37] <Jimi_Neutral> Is there someone here that can help me with Clonezilla?
[09:37] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Err yes, sorry, I was busy
[09:37] <kravlin> jove: he's there. just all over.
[09:37] <SYST3M32> I see
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=3
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: pastebin allows you to paste HUGE swathes of text to a small link
[09:38] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141927/
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: see what kravlin just did, thats a pastebin
[09:38] <SYST3M32> I have ndiswrapper and that did not fix my problem
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> SYST3M32: imagine if he'd pasted ALL that in the channel
[09:38] <Oli``> I just deleted (not move to trash) something off an ext3 drive I'd rather have kept. Any way to get it back?
[09:39] <jove> h_m-Ubuntu, Thanks for your help....I am successful to connect it.... and 1 more question: on that channel, how should I see all of the users as this #ubuntu ?
[09:39] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: Not sure I know what you mean.
[09:39] <aprilhare> re
[09:39] <cabrilo> hello all... is it possible to download an installation CD of 8.10 with all the updates included?
[09:39] <ja660k> who can help me with subnet calculating?
[09:39] <aprilhare> define all the updates
[09:39] <Caesi> hullo, can anyone help with xinerama? :)
[09:39] <aprilhare> its still being updated afaik
[09:40] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: If i pasted most of that then i'd probably get kicked for flooding.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: thats why pastebin exists
[09:40] <SYST3M32> Interesting
[09:40] <kravlin> cabrilo: unfortunately not that i personally know of. any reason that having to update would be bad?
[09:40] <H_M-Ubuntu> jove: I have to go, ask someone else for help if you still need it, Ok?
[09:40] <jove> h_m-ubuntu, in this #ubuntu , i see your name rolling up and other people as well, on other chanel , I dont' see users
[09:41] <nyaa> I was wondering if having a later version of G++ can affect the performance of wine? (using 1.01 for wine)
[09:41] <Jimi_Neutral> ja660k: there are some great subnet calculators on google
[09:41] <cabrilo> kravlin: the target machine has bad internet connection (GPRS - slow and expensive)
[09:41] <ja660k> jimu_Neutral: i know but its for school and the numbers dont make sense and i dont know what to do.
[09:41] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: i just want to figure this out. i don't understand it and it's driving me nuts.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: the device is marked as *-network DISABLED   i'm seeing how to get it up and running
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:43] <joneskoo> hey, I have an A-Link 3GU Turbo 3G-modem, I'd like to get it to work with 9.04. any help? when I connect it it starts flooding "Starting file manager" to the taskbar
[09:43] <joneskoo> I have a HUAWEI E169 modem which works
[09:43] <Kesman_> joneskoo: when you connect it to what?
[09:44] <Kesman_> ethernet port in your pc?
[09:44] <joneskoo> to my macbook running 9.04 beta
[09:44] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: it reconfigured and i got nothing new in ifconfig
[09:44] <joneskoo> no it's an USB 3G modem
[09:44] <joneskoo> 3G or UMTS
[09:44] <Kesman_> joneskoo: ah I see
[09:44] <Kesman_> dunno then
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[09:44] <joneskoo> on debian I need to modprobe usbserial with vendor and product options and _eject_ the appearing CD drive
[09:45] <kkb110> does anybody know how to prevent screen reset(flash) when I switch user by pressing ctrl+f8 or f7?
[09:45] <joneskoo> after CD eject it switches USB ID
[09:45] <joneskoo> where should I go to talk about this to get this working in 9.04 release? :)
[09:45] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: no internet: can't sudo.
[09:45] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: or apt-get for that matter
[09:46] <joneskoo> modprobe usbserial: Module usbserial not found. I don't know if the kernel has renamed usbserial module or what, but if I could set the option for it it might work
[09:46] <vigo> joneskoo: /loin #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <vigo> errr /join
[09:47] <Primedeath> Hello there. :]
[09:47] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: actually. when i run apt-get it tells me the directory's locked
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: can you pastebin the output of lsmod
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[09:47] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: sure. mind if i try a reboot first?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: sure, can't hurt
[09:48] <Primedeath> Question, I just got my new 1TB Drive. When I format it to EXT2 it only shows that 870GB is free. When 910-940GB is it's true space when formatted.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Primedeath: you sure you didnt format ext3?
[09:48] <Primedeath> I have it connected to my router, and it shows 870GB free out of 916GB.. Even though I have put nothing on it.
[09:48] <Primedeath> I am sure.
[09:48] <Primedeath> The same loss of space is on EXT3 as well, I did it with my 80GB.
[09:48] <linxeh> Primedeath: because 10% is kept for root by default
[09:48] <linxeh> or something
[09:49] <Primedeath> Hm.
[09:49] <linxeh> for lost+found and other maintenance
[09:49] <Primedeath> Any way to remove that?
[09:49] <linxeh> when you format I think mkext2fs has an option to tune it
[09:49] <Primedeath> I just want to be able to have NAS Storage on my Tomato router.
[09:49] <linxeh> but you risk losing data
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Primedeath: nope, you could use a different fs
[09:49] <Primedeath> Hmm..
[09:49] <Primedeath> Tomato only supports EXT2/3 and FAT.. =[
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> dont use fat, its not robust
[09:50] <Primedeath> I know
[09:50] <Primedeath> FAT is never an option for me. :}
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> its ok on 1Gb memory sticks
[09:50] <FuTz> hello, i'm experiencing a problem with my ubuntu 8.10.. i was changing refresh rate and now when i log in my monitor says out of range, how could i fix this problem?
[09:50] <Primedeath> So I pretty much lose almost 100GB of freespace? =[ Damn.
[09:50] <FuTz> i tryed with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xortg
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> well, you'll lose 10% of any disk
[09:50] <Primedeath> How big is the chance of losing data if I were to just reduce the size that it saves.
[09:51] <FuTz> but that configuration does not give me to input refresh rate
[09:51] <kravlin> Primedeath: I feel your pain. my next goal is to set up a 2TB server in the case of a PS2
[09:51] <Primedeath> I know, but 870GB free out of a 1TB Drive, bleh.
[09:51] <linxeh> Primedeath: you know its not really a 1TB drive right ?
[09:51] <Primedeath> If only Tomato supported NTFS. =[
[09:51] <Primedeath> I know.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Primedeath: if your other device was more forgiving you could use ntfs or JFS
[09:52] <Primedeath> JFS, hmm
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> or some other FS
[09:52] <linxeh> its only 931GB to begin with, and that there is always an overhead with filesystems
[09:52] <FuTz> can someone help me with my problem?
[09:53] <mer53> HI its me again .......... so hope someone cam help me
[09:53] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141931/
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: could try: sudo rmmod e1000e; sudo modprobe e1000e
[09:53] <Primedeath> Oh well, I'll stick with EXT2.. I feel safer with it... Or should I go EXT3?
[09:53] <linxeh> Primedeath: always ext3
[09:53] <kravlin> FuTz, mer53, Ask your problem not if you can ask it. that's what this place is here for.
[09:53] <Primedeath> I'll do that once I reboot into Ubuntu. :]
[09:54] <Primedeath> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[09:54] <pg-13[prostitute> how do i get an old nvu package to werk on 8.10
[09:54] <linxeh> Primedeath: you could tune the saved space for root down a bit I guess, but mmmm, I'd rather the fs had enough room to recover lost inodes etc if the worst does happen etc
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Primedeath: if its that big, ext3
[09:54] <linxeh> Primedeath: does your router thing support ext3 ?
[09:54] <Primedeath> Yup
[09:54] <mer53> ok got a problem with using terminal .......... I believeit is working from the directory desktop and the file I am converting is on the desktop but terminal says file not found
[09:55] <linxeh> then go with that, the journal should help protect against corruption
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: you may need to rename /etc/network/interfaces and reboot
[09:55] <mer53> I am using alien
[09:55] <ablmf> how to change machine name of ubuntu?  I am using server edition
[09:55] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: the first one removed it from the gui for network manager, the second brought it back and it looks for a network then gets disconnected.
[09:55] <linxeh> mer53: when you open a new terminal it starts in your home directory, not the Desktop. type "cd ~/Desktop" to get onto the desktop
[09:55] <pg-13[prostitute> maybe ./ before the file
[09:55] <mer53> ok cheers
[09:55] <linxeh> mer53: what are you trying to install with alien ?
[09:56] <mer53> graphics drivers
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: you could read   dmesg | less
[09:56] <linxeh> for what card ?
[09:56] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: and what would i rename those to?
[09:56] <mer53> 7500 and eventually a x1950 pro
[09:56] <mer53> radeons
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old; sudo shutdown -r now
[09:56] <Primedeath> What exactly does the saved space for root do? Does it protect my data? Just to let you know, this is purely storage and I am not using Linux. :] This is just a better place to ask than the linux channel.
[09:57] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: and when i put in dmesg | less i have no idea what any of it means.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: if someone says rename a file, just give it a different name
[09:57] <linxeh> mer53: and there arent drivers in the repositories for them ?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: dmesg | less will allow you to read yur kernel messages from the second it comes alive
[09:58] <FuTz> i have changed refresh rate and now when i log in my monitor says out of range, how to fix it?
[09:58] <mer53> mer@mer-desktop:~$ sudo alien fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm
[09:58] <mer53> File "fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm" not found.
[09:58] <mer53> mer@mer-desktop:~$ sudo alien fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm
[09:58] <mer53> File "fglrx64_4_3_0-8.28.8-1.x86_64.rpm" not found.
[09:58] <mer53> mer@mer-desktop:~$ cd ~/desktop
[09:58] <FloodBot2> mer53: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:58] <mer53> bash: cd: /home/mer/desktop: No such file or directory
[09:59] <linxeh> mer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI etc
[09:59] <mer53> ooops! sorry new here,
[09:59] <linxeh> mer53: please look at what I typed - I said ~/Desktop not ~/desktop
[10:00] <Jimi_Neutral>  hey hippy, hows you
[10:00] <Primedeath> linxeh: What exactly does the saved space for root do? Does it protect my data? Just to let you know, this is purely storage and I am not using Linux. So it's not like I'll be able to check the filesystem often for errors.
[10:00] <Jimi_Neutral> i got clonezilla kinda working in the end
[10:00] <Primedeath> Forgive my ignorance please. ;]
[10:00] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: somehow that worked....
[10:01] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: how?
[10:01] <mer53> damned caps
[10:01] <Jimi_Neutral> now its just saying that the machine it is trying to take the image from the NTS partition is corrupt
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: what made it work?
[10:01] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: well it kinda did. the computer now says it's connected. but it doesn't go anywhere
[10:02] <mer53> ty linexeh .... I was copying from what was already in the terminal, how do you know when to use capitals or not?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: i'm guessing the rmmod / modprobe
[10:02] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: it says it's connected after removing interfaces from the config and then rebooting. but now it doesn't ping anything. it's apperently connected but not going anywhere
[10:03] <linxeh> Primedeath: its so that when the filesystem gets full the root user still has space to do maintenance. essentially, this is so that if the filesystem gets corrupted (maybe due to a crash) when fsck.extN runs it can find all the bits of lost files and "move" them to a lost+found directory so that the sysadmin can piece together bits of lost files for users etc. if you don't have some space there you may never be able to repair a crashed filesystem 
[10:03] <linxeh> Primedeath: certainly we leave it alone on filesystems on our multi-TB arrays
[10:03] <mer53> I thionk I checked the repositories.......... but not found anything I could recognise ......tbh Im a windows whore so need to learn how to do thingas differently
[10:03] <Primedeath> Indeed.
[10:04] <linxeh> mer53: I just know that the desktop folder is called Desktop :) (try "ls" to list files in a directory)
[10:04] <linxeh> mer53: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_.22the_Ubuntu_way.22
[10:04] <Primedeath> What's the likely hood on a crashed filesystem from an average consumer?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: can you ping names? can you ping iPs?
[10:04] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: i couldn't and now it can't do anything again.
[10:04] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: it discoed and now it's doing the same thing, connecting then immediately disconnecting again.
[10:04] <chilli0> ows
[10:05] <ablmf> how to change machine name of ubuntu?  I am using server edition and I do not have X-windows installed.  So I think I have to use command line to change that.
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: ok now run: dmesg | tail
[10:05] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: but it's now appearing in ifconfig.
[10:05] <linxeh> Primedeath: I've seen it a few times, but mainly during power cuts or kernel panics. at work we see it every now and then, a few times a year probably (again due to crashes / power failures). With ext3 the journal takes some of that pain away - its possible the journal is stored in that area too btw
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: is it disabled in : sudo lshw -C network
[10:05] <c_nick> Hi.. If i copied the entire Virtual Box in the home folder can i make it work on the other terminal by just copying the stuff in the latters home folder
[10:05] <chilli0> Hello all. I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)
[10:06] <mer53> thanks Linexeh, I did checkout the wiki on this but it will take some time for me to get used to using the terminal
[10:06] <kravlin> i get eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling ts0 then link is down
[10:06] <kravlin> then link is up
[10:06] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: 2 msg above
[10:06] <hippychick_> oof
[10:06] <mer53> I capitalised and it did work better, but last line is still file not found?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: i'd see what that means, websearch away. i gotta test some citrix WI real quick
[10:06] <Jimi_Neutral> hey again hippy
[10:06] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: it is no longer disabled.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: sweet
[10:07] <c_nick> ActionParsnip: can u help me out with my query
[10:07] <Primedeath> linxeh, hmm.. Kernel panics though? Sorry about bothering you so much about this, but as I am not on Linux and the only kernel I could see panicking is my router which is highly unlikely going to mess up the drive.. Or could the filesystem just randomly mess up? I access the drive via Samba that the router provides.
[10:07] <hippychick_> i keep getting disconnected on wired, wireless works perfectly but wired seems to throw fits :S
[10:07] <Primedeath> Again, sorry, I just like to know everything I can. :]
[10:07] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: now it says it's connected but i can't ping or anything.
[10:07] <kravlin> hippychick_: how so?
[10:08] <c_nick> ActionParsnip:  If i copied the entire Virtual Box in the home folder (/home/.virtualbox) can i make it work on the some other terminal by just copying the stuff in the latters home folder
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> hippychick_: I would help you there but im newbier than you
[10:08] <kravlin> apperently like that....
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> lol
[10:08] <hippychick_> well it connects up and works but then all of a sudden it will disconnect and i have to reboot, so far the past 2 times its been after launching firefox
[10:08] <linxeh> Primedeath: the router is running linux, so has a kernel too. it might kernel panic for the same reasons any linux system does - hardware failures / issues (eg power, driver problems) etc
[10:08] <c_nick> simply by just coping  from one terminal to other
[10:08] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: in fact. trying to ping something killed the gui right out.
[10:09] <linxeh> Primedeath: the filesystem shouldnt randomly mess up - its used by millions of machines every day with no problem
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: if you create a copy of the you will duplicate the VM as the virtualbox works on the instance of the .vxd
[10:09] <chilli0> Hello all. I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)
[10:09] <Primedeath> Meh, I am just about to convince myself that I should let it be.. I'd rather have ~70GB lost in freespace than to lose 400GB's or more due to a corrupt fs.
[10:09] <linxeh> Primedeath: how is the speed of the transfers to that drive via the router? the last time I tried similar I wanted to kill myself it was so slow :)
[10:10] <Primedeath> linxeh, not too bad. I can still stream 720p, I just have to set it to 3 second buffer.
[10:10] <Primedeath> I have an eSata connection, I just only use it when I transfer something big.
[10:11] <linxeh> Primedeath: well its not 70GB lost really, you've got a 931GB drive, of which a portion is lost to formatting anyway (in any filesystem), and then you've lost some more for this superuser portion, and some for the journal.  buy another drive if you run out of space :)
[10:11] <c_nick> I have a virtual Box on a terminal here.. its loaded with xp.. now if i copied this folder (/home/.virtualbox) and port it to some random terminal and copied it there then how to get it to work.. can u guide me
[10:11] <bullgard4> http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html#Whatis: "UDEV is an replacement of DEVFS in user-space using sysfs and /sbin/hotplug." I cannot find /sbin/hotplug in my Ubuntu 8.04.2. Is this article obsolete?
[10:11] <Primedeath> linxeh, heh.
[10:11]  * linxeh is planing on getting a few 500GB 2.5" disks as they consume around 1/5 of the power of a 3.5" drive
[10:11] <Primedeath> I am getting a 500GB 2.5" for my laptop.
[10:12] <Primedeath> When I bought this laptop 2 years ago, I went for the smallest HDD so I could spend the rest of the money on CPU/Graphics upgrade.
[10:12] <linxeh> heh
[10:12] <Jimi_Neutral> Linxeh: please tell me you dont mean SSD drives?
[10:12] <linxeh> Jimi_Neutral: nope
[10:12] <Primedeath> HDD/RAM is easy and cheaper to upgrade yourself.
[10:12] <Jimi_Neutral> Jesus, i was gonna say you must be loaded
[10:12] <Primedeath> I want SSD. =[
[10:12] <linxeh> I just want some cheap storage, with backups
[10:13] <Primedeath> I have the money, I should get one. Hmm.
[10:13] <linxeh> this is getting OT anyway :)
[10:13] <Primedeath> I could get it Thursday with Amazon Prime Shipping.
[10:13] <Primedeath> :]
[10:13] <linxeh> I dont see the point in SSD yet
[10:13]  * Primedeath loves 3.99 shipping.
[10:13] <Primedeath> It's new, therefore it's better!
[10:13] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: gonna keep bugging you if you don't mind. Not sure where to go. google provides nothing of use.
[10:13] <linxeh> limited life, overly expensive
[10:13] <Jimi_Neutral> Why not Linxeh
[10:13] <Jimi_Neutral> oh ok
[10:14] <Jimi_Neutral> I thought you meant from a techincal standpoint
[10:14] <Primedeath> It's just like World of Warcraft... A level 40 epic item is better than a level 80 green! It's epic therefore it's always better.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: i dont know anything else really, maybe you need to compile the latest driver for the device
[10:15] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: why would i need to do that? the card worked perfectly before i had to reinstall network manager.
[10:15] <Primedeath> If only they allowed me to use the ZNC here. :| Heh.
[10:15] <Primedeath> O.o
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: then i have no idea
[10:16] <Jimi_Neutral> Can you turn off all the notifications.people leaving and entering and such? Im using Xchat.
[10:17] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: i'm about ready for a clean install and just going from there at this point. it's kinda rediculous but i don't know how to fix it and nobody knows what's wrong.
[10:17] <lukinfore> hi! when I logout from vt automatic switch to X occurs on jaunty. How can I disable this?
[10:17]  * Primedeath bites linxeh.
[10:17] <Primedeath> Thanks again. :]
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: nobody right now, try later in the day
[10:18] <plugin> !fr
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: its not ridiculous whatsoever, the room could be full of new ubuntu users so nobody would know
[10:18] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: true
[10:18] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: ok. i'll try later
[10:18] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: sleeptime now then
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> kravlin: peace out
[10:19] <kravlin> ActionParsnip: thanks for all the help
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> np
[10:19] <lukinfore> Jimi_Neutral, /set irc_conf_mode 1
[10:19] <Jimi_Neutral> I just found it lukinfore but ty anyway
[10:19] <lukinfore> if not xchat-gnome
[10:20] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok back to my real problem
[10:20] <Primedeath> BBIAB, reformatting drive to ext3. :]
[10:21] <Jimi_Neutral> I get an NTFS is corrupt error when trying to clone a windows machine using Clonezilla from this Ubuntu box. I am running chkdsk /r /f but if it still doesnt work, would anyone have any ideas as to what I could do?
[10:21] <DieseL`maj> hi, is there a problem with the intrepid repos?
[10:21] <Bambi03> We are a group of students from the university of Aalborg, Denmark. We
[10:21] <Bambi03> are currently working on our master thesis in computer science. We are
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[10:21] <Bambi03> As part of that, we would like to conduct a number of interviews with
[10:21] <FloodBot2> Bambi03: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <Bambi03> developers involved with open source development in companies.
[10:22] <DieseL`maj> Bambi03: get oouuuuttt
[10:22] <Bambi03> sorry
[10:22] <Bambi03> didnt realise
[10:22] <oCean_> Bambi03: this is not the appropriate channel. You are welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic channel to discuss this
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Bambi03: head to #ubuntu-offtopic as it is not an ubuntu support question
[10:23] <chilli0> I need some help with getting network printers working , ubuntu to vista im pretty sure vista is the problem here but im getting access denied and vista shars to all other computer (only windows ones however)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: most likely a permissions ting
[10:24] <chilli0> mmm
[10:24] <chilli0> i removed windows firewall
[10:24] <chilli0> and it still hates me
[10:25] <ikonia> chilli0: so the printer is on the windows box, correct ?
[10:25] <chilli0> sadly yes
[10:25] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - what type of printer is it ?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=147677
[10:25] <chilli0> its a
[10:26] <chilli0> Stylus-Photo-R350
[10:26] <ikonia> chilli0: ooh, not aware/heard of that model
[10:26] <ikonia> chilli0: windows is sharing it out directly, it's not using a print server or anything like that ?
[10:26] <chilli0> its pretty good , was.
[10:27] <chilli0> its not no its , i just enabled printer sharing in the printer options
[10:27] <ikonia> chilli0: ok, so basiclly the printer is the same as a network share //computername/printer_share_name
[10:27] <chilli0> yes
[10:27] <ikonia> chilli0: how are you trying to connect to the printer
[10:27] <ikonia> (from the ubuntu machine)
[10:27] <chilli0> the printer thing in system > admin
[10:28] <ikonia> chilli0: ok so using cups, fair enoough
[10:28] <ikonia> chilli0: does it see the printer at all ?
[10:28] <chilli0> it does
[10:28] <chilli0> yes
[10:28] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - so walk me through until where the problem is
[10:29] <chilli0> untill i print
[10:29] <ikonia> what happens ?
[10:29] <chilli0> and then it does nothing justs ques for a while
[10:29] <chilli0> then if i go to settings
[10:29] <chilli0> of that printer
[10:29] <ikonia> chilli0: do you see it queuing on the windows print queue or the ubuntu local print spool ?
[10:29] <chilli0> ubuntu
[10:29] <jelly12gen> someone heard that ubuntu is dropping ecams because vim is better?
[10:30] <ikonia> jelly12gen: no
[10:30] <jelly12gen> *emacs
[10:30] <ikonia> chilli0: so it doesn't appear in the windows print queue ?
[10:30] <chilli0> Correct.
[10:30] <ikonia> chilli0: ok when you connected using cups, it asks you to select a printer "driver" from the list, what did you select ?
[10:30] <DieseL`maj> is there a problem with the intrepid repos?
[10:31] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: not that I'm aware of
[10:31] <chilli0> i selected the same on as its called
[10:31] <chilli0> Stylus-Photo-R350
[10:31] <ikonia> chilli0: so there is a native cups driver for it, excellent
[10:31] <chilli0> yes
[10:31] <DieseL`maj> ah ok it seems ok now
[10:31] <ikonia> chilli0: so lets take a step back and look at a higher level
[10:31] <DieseL`maj> was getting bad header files
[10:31] <chilli0> hold up 2 secs
[10:31] <Wintervenom> I hear Emacs is being dropped, is it true?
[10:31] <chilli0> just doing one thing
[10:32] <ikonia> Wintervenom: you've just asked that as another user
[10:32] <Wintervenom> O.o  I haven't even been here.
[10:32] <DieseL`maj> arg
[10:32] <ikonia> Wintervenom: I'm not aware of emacs being dropped to answer your question
[10:32] <DieseL`maj> cant get the msttcorefonts now
[10:32] <DieseL`maj> bad header line :/
[10:32] <ikonia> chilli0: shout when you are ready
[10:32] <chilli0> ikonia:  my printer state is  : Idle - unable to connect to CIFS host after ( tryed 3 times)
[10:33] <chilli0> i use to get a NT_ACCESS_DENIED or something like that
[10:33] <Wintervenom> Oh, thanks.
[10:33] <ikonia> chilli0: that was my next question - your auth model
[10:33] <ikonia> chilli0: is the windows PC part of a domain ?
[10:33] <ikonia> chilli0: is the printer share granted the correct permissions for printing ?
[10:34] <chilli0> it is yes
[10:34] <chilli0> other windows computers can print for it
[10:34] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - so that means your printer will require some form of authentication from the domain it's part of
[10:35] <ikonia> chilli0: which your error message also confims
[10:35] <chilli0> IT doesnt no , well all of the other computers didnt use it.
[10:36] <ikonia> chilli0: are the other computers part of the domain
[10:37] <chilli0> by domain do u mean workgroup? and yes if thats what u mean
[10:37] <ikonia> no I don't
[10:37] <ikonia> that's why I asked about domain
[10:37] <ikonia> chilli0: so your PC's are part of a work group, not  domain, correct.
[10:37] <ikonia> chilli0: so each system is authenticated against local users, not a central domain point ?
[10:37] <chilli0> yes
[10:37] <chilli0> i think lol
[10:38] <chilli0> its just home computers
[10:38] <ikonia> chilli0:  you think ?
[10:38] <chilli0> so not really set up to be hardcore.
[10:38] <chilli0> and yes
[10:38] <chilli0> i get it now
[10:38] <ikonia> ok -
[10:38] <chilli0> yeh its not a network loging kinda thing.
[10:38] <chilli0> just normal home comps
[10:38] <ikonia> networking logging ??
[10:38] <ikonia> ok - so it's a workgroup
[10:38] <chilli0> no network loging
[10:38] <chilli0> yes
[10:39] <ikonia> chilli0: oh you mean "login" - not "loging"
[10:39] <chilli0> yeh my bad
[10:39] <ikonia> no no, thats fine, just trying to make sure we are on the same page
[10:39] <ikonia> chilli0: so first thing I'd suggest doing is putting your ubuntu machine in the same workgroup as the windows machines.
[10:40] <netr> fw
[10:40] <chilli0> Done.
[10:40] <ikonia> netr: ?
[10:40] <netr> hello
[10:40] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - so now look at the permissions on the printer share, what are they set to
[10:40] <ikonia> netr: hello
[10:41] <Shoopuf> Anyone been able to get Conky to display on Ubuntu's desktop without having the desktop icons disappear?
[10:41] <ikonia> Shoopuf: not used it for a few week, but yes
[10:41] <chilli0> i just tryed adding the printer again , and this time i decided to press Verify ( with promp user if required) and it just says : Print share inaccessible . the print share is not accessible
[10:42] <chilli0> and how do i look at the perms?
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: ok - we'll get there
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: you right click on the printer and look at the share options
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: lets take a step back first though
[10:42] <chilli0> in ubuntu?
[10:42] <chilli0> mk
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: no - on the machine sharing the printer
[10:42] <chilli0> k
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: lets pause and take a step back frist
[10:42] <chilli0> k
[10:42] <ikonia> chilli0: can the ubuntu machine ping the windows machine sharing the printer
[10:42] <DieseL`maj> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[10:42] <DieseL`maj> make any sense to anyone?
[10:43] <DieseL`maj> i get this when trying to install msttcorefonts
[10:43] <chilli0> let meh see
[10:43] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: normally a problem with that specific repo
[10:43] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: try an sudo apt-get update first
[10:43] <koshari> chilli0 i get that not accessable error on a windows client in vbox accessing a ubuntu share on the guest
[10:43] <DieseL`maj> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_2.5_all.deb  Bad header line
[10:43] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser
[10:43] <DieseL`maj> thats an official ubuntu repo
[10:44] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: did you read what I suggested
[10:44] <DieseL`maj> yes
[10:44] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: instead of blindly pasting - test what I suggested
[10:44] <DieseL`maj> ive done it
[10:44] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: ok and what did it say
[10:44] <chilli0> Yes i can ikonia
[10:44] <DieseL`maj> it was succesful
[10:44] <mer53> Hi again ...... ok Ive gone through synaptic Package manager, its like a download pool of software yeah?, and found some more drivers for my hardware but it doesnt actually support my card 7500, oldest is 8500, is this why it doesnt show in my hardware manager window?
[10:44] <ikonia> chilli0: so you can %100 ping the windows maching with the printer attatched from the ubuntu machine ?
[10:44] <Shoopuf> ikonia: ok, well, i'll keep playin with the config file then :) thanks
[10:45] <ikonia> DieseL`maj: now retry the install, same error ?
[10:46] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser
[10:46] <oCean_> !away > umar
[10:47] <chilli0> ill see if i get 100%
[10:47] <chilli0> 0% loss
[10:47] <ikonia> chilli0: ok, thats a great start
[10:48] <ikonia> chilli0: the next thing I would do is setup a physical network share on the same windows PC, and see if the ubuntu machine can mount it over samba - as that will be your workgroup samba/cifs test removing cups from the situation as a possibly issue
[10:48] <chilli0> k
[10:48] <BoltClock> hi, im unable to boot my ubuntu install because grub is missing (dont ask), and im trying to use a live cd to access my svn repo inside my ubuntu partition
[10:48] <chilli0> i shall do
[10:48] <umar> oCean_ and ubottu, ok, thanks!
[10:48] <umar> !away > umar
[10:48] <BoltClock> i get "svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'"
[10:48] <chilli0> i will statrt it now
[10:48] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok I am having a issue I installed moblock and when I try to start it cant seem to find blocklistcontrol.log and would like me to point to it but there isnt one
[10:49] <kholerabbi> where does "Archive Mounter" mount the archives?
[10:49] <kholerabbi> I'm trying o get winecfg to mount it..
[10:49] <DieseL`maj> ikonia: yes same error
[10:49] <ikonia> BoltClock why not just fix grub
[10:49] <chilli0> ikonia:  im just trying on this in the meanwhile , im gonna plug the printer into a diffrent computer see if it works thoen
[10:50] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser
[10:50] <ikonia> chilli0: I'd forget swapping the printer around, your introducing varibles that are not needed
[10:50] <mer53> HI I know my issues are very noobish but it would be nice to be acknowledged .........just a little
[10:50] <ikonia> mer53: what do you want ?
[10:50] <BoltClock> ikonia: not yet, ill need to settle my borked windows disk and reinstall before i regrub my computer
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: is it for mounting iso files?
[10:50] <ikonia> mer53: new users are more than welcome, easy questions are gret
[10:50] <BoltClock> ikonia: which i am unable to do right now because the disk isnt playing nice
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mer53: have you asked your question?
[10:51] <chilli0> okie ikonia , but what if that works?
[10:51] <kholerabbi> ActionParsnip: ah, duh. I don't need to -- wine can read any dir as a cdrom..... no just files.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: quit with the duh crap
[10:51] <oCean_> DieseL`maj: Can you pastebin the apt-get update?
[10:51] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can remove those grey buttons which come on flash objects on my firefox browser
[10:52] <mer53> Id like to know why I cant get any drivers for my radeon 7500, dowloading doesnt work as they will not install, going to the repository doesnt work as I update and install from spm but I still see no drivers for my hardware in my hardware manager window?? Im very confused
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: can you please expand on your issue a little, i am unfamiliar with archive mounter
[10:52] <amigo_rich> mer53: Which drivers are you trying to use?
[10:52] <sharktooth> mer53 have u tried to directly dl from ati?
[10:53] <PerryArmstrong> ikonia; i suppose my question is very easy
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> mer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[10:53] <Shoopuf> PerryArmstrong: Is it just a blank gray button or does it say someting on the button?
[10:53] <PerryArmstrong> Shoopuf; blank grey button
[10:54] <elky> mer53, the only thing i can see from you is talking about a card. you didnt specify what type of card you're talking about
[10:54] <beniwtv> Hi all... I have some trouble with ubuntu-vm-builder. I try to create a vm but I get permission denied, even when running as root. Chmodding to 777 works, but I'd rather not do this. (Now it's 755). Does ubuntu-vm-builder change to another user while executing?
[10:54] <Jimi_Neutral> i am right in thinking that if clonezilla has taken an image and there are 11 files totalling 51.85KB then it has not worked properly right?
[10:54] <mer53> i tried the ati ones and although I got the terminal to work with alien it still couldnt find the file??? I went through the repository and found a file with flgrx in it (appears to be ati gfx mark) and updated
[10:54] <coutts99> morning all
[10:55] <mer53> but hardware manger doesnt see any drivers
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> mer53: follow that guide and you should strike gold
[10:56] <mer53> so my rig is working but with no 3d acceleration so .......which guide Action parsnip?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> mer53: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[10:56] <kholerabbi> ActionParsnip: sorry. it was more an 'ah-ha!' 'eureka!' more lightly mad chuckle.. what it means to you is that I have solved my problem. And thank you.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: oic, sweet :D
[10:56] <c_nick> ActionParsnip: Consider 2 VB's now if i cut-copy-pasted the stuff from (/home/.virtualbox/  pc1) to (/home/.virtualbox/  pc2) Folder then is there a chance it will work properly
[10:56] <PerryArmstrong> Shoopuf; ny idea
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: on another system?
[10:56] <kholerabbi> :D
[10:57] <c_nick> ActionParsnip: Yes
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: you will most likely need to chmod and chown the entire folder to the user on the other system but i dont see why it wouldnt work, should be fine
[10:58] <BoltClock> can anyone help?
[10:58] <c_nick> Its just like copying from one folder to another
[10:58] <Shoopuf> PerryArmstrong: Sorry I have never seen that problem before
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: if its on a different system the user intending to use it may not have access
[10:58] <PerryArmstrong> Shoopuf; want me upload the image??
[10:58] <lng> hi! how to play aac?
[10:58] <c_nick> access to wht ?
[10:59] <Shoopuf> PerryArmstrong: sure
[10:59] <c_nick> I am just cut copy pasting the stuff from /home/.VB to that pc's /home/.VB thats all...
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: well it will have a different owner so that will need setting for the new system. something like: sudo chown -R $USER /path/to/.virtualbox    will fix it nice
[10:59] <BoltClock> hi, im unable to boot my ubuntu install because grub is missing (dont ask), and im trying to use a live cd to co from my svn repo inside my ubuntu partition, but ﻿i get "svn: Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'", svn --version says 1.4.6
[11:00] <stevem_> Hi, I'm thinking of trying Ubuntu again - haven't for a few years now - however is there an automatic way I can "de-brand" it... for example the Gnome foot being a ubuntu logo kinda annoys me and disrespects the gnome project.
[11:00] <PerryArmstrong> Shoopuf; can you tell me where to upload..dont remember the site name
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: the gnome foot, is the gnome logo, the ubuntu logo is completely different
[11:00] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, I already know that
[11:01] <c_nick> oho k
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: you could change the icon for it I guess
[11:01] <DieseL`maj> oCean_: got a pastbin link for me?
[11:01] <DieseL`maj> actual paste bin tells me i'm pasing spam -_-
[11:01] <DieseL`maj> *pasting
[11:01] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, I'm looking for something that does it all... I don't want to go hunting for all the changes Ubuntu made in the packages for the purposes of 'marketting'
[11:01] <c_nick> Thanks ActionParsnip
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533247
[11:01] <c_nick> I will try this tomorrow.. if i encounter anything will get back to you
[11:02] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, Thats just one example tho
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: i think you are worrying too much about it
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: i'm sure if the gnome team felt disrespected they would have said something to the devs
[11:03] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, I don't like how Ubuntu brands the entire system and everything in it as Ubuntu... they never say what they fork from.. they barely even say it's GNU/Linux these days
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: true
[11:03] <stevem_> it's just *sparkle* Ubuntu
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: a lot of users think Ubuntu IS linux and also dont know of other distros which is kinda sad
[11:05] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, if Ubuntu messes up in the future it could hinder Linux uptake in general on desktops... theres too much of a 'fashion' statement about Ubuntu
[11:05] <koshari> ActionParsnip i think very few users would assume that ubuntu was the sole linux dizzy
[11:05] <stevem_> And people go off fashions quickly
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> koshari: you'd be suprised
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> koshari: "gentoo... whats that" they cry
[11:06] <mer53> TY guys that guide does look a whole lot closer to getting 3d rendering on my ubuntu system, however ..... it looks like I am going to be editing the driver itself? is this correct?
[11:06] <elky> koshari, it's true actually. new users who come in through ubuntu do assume it's the only one
[11:06]  * ITguru wonders why someone who uses Ubuntu may think it's the only linux distro?
[11:06] <stevem_> I'm a hard core Debian user myself, but even Lenny is lagging (stable but lagging already!) I want Ubuntu for it's tweaks, suggested packages, and setup
[11:06] <koshari> elky i dont doubt that , but the majority? cmon,
[11:06] <stevem_> Not for it's looks or logos
[11:06] <ITguru> even windows users know that there are other versions of windows
[11:06] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[11:07] <stevem_> ITguru, different editions yes, just like theres kubuntu/edubuntu/xubuntu
[11:07] <elky> koshari, do expos and stuff and have a choice of two distros. 'what's that one?' 'fedora' 'is it a different ubuntu?'
[11:07] <ITguru> Sorry ubottu ( Myrtti )
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> stevem_: i use it as its easy and i want an easy life, i have other distros to do other stuff but i work with pcs so the last thing i want when i finish work is more computer issues
[11:07] <PerryArmstrong> Shoopuf; http://imagebin.ca/view/ZKqRpT.html
[11:07] <ITguru> fedora is so not ubuntu! lol
[11:08] <stevem_> ActionParsnip, yeah I know what you mean thats the argument all my friends use too... while I sit there tweaking Debian or backporting a package
[11:08] <joetheodd> isn't gentoo that different ubuntu thing too?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> joetheodd: hehe
[11:09] <koshari> the most linux users that wouldnt even know they are using linux would likely be TTL users
[11:09] <dukhu> Can some one know how can I get windows 6.1 for my dopod 838pro and installation procedure. I saw some preview from youtube that it will work like htc touch pro or touch diamond. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsSNzYftjZs
[11:09] <stevem_> joetheodd, Gentoo has a completely different lineage to Ubuntu
[11:09]  * joetheodd wants to run Ubuntu with Hurd instead of Linux just to show off. And then go back to Linux.
[11:09] <joetheodd> stevem_, sarcasm doesn't work on the internet. :(
[11:09] <stevem_> joetheodd, lol :P ok
[11:09] <stevem_> Theres Debian GNU/Hurd if you want to try it
[11:09] <elky> joetheodd, it does if you enclose it in the proper syntax
[11:10] <stevem_> It'll accept Ubuntu packages (mostly) lol
[11:10] <joetheodd> Ah man, that's too easy. :P
[11:10] <elky> anyway, this is totally non-support. #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[11:11] <stevem_> Anyway back to my original point... a nice unbranded (or maybe more subtily branded) ubuntu would be nice
[11:11] <stevem_> oops
[11:11] <stevem_> I don't want a 'Ubuntu' experience
[11:12] <joetheodd> stevem_, like how Slackware (only other distro I've used) doesn't scream slackware left and right? It's simply Linux?
[11:12] <stevem_> in the form of logos and brown and orange and eerrrr
[11:12] <stevem_> joetheodd, yeah
[11:12] <movedx> Crash Bang no good?
[11:12] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i delete things from my home folder? it says permission denied
[11:12] <movedx> Jimi_Neutral: Who are the files owned by?
[11:12] <koshari> stevem get recreator and package your own then
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> they are failed images from clonezilla that i am trying to get working
[11:13] <stevem_> koshari, a recreator built for ubuntu?
[11:13] <Shoopuf> PerryArmstrong: I've never seen somethin' like that before... Could it be some Firefox addon?
[11:13] <stevem_> Jimi_Neutral, you've been using sudo I'm guessing?
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> yes
[11:13] <stevem_> they'll be owned by root
[11:13] <movedx> Jimi_Neutral: sudo rm <files>
[11:13] <stevem_> use sudo to delete them too
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> in the gui?
[11:13] <movedx> in a console
[11:13] <stevem_> Jimi_Neutral, no from the terminal
[11:13] <stevem_> movedx,  :D
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> thats annoying lol
[11:14] <joetheodd> This channel is so helpful :).
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> ty :)
[11:14] <oCean_> !away > mafsi
[11:14] <movedx> Hmm, has emacs always had an X86 interface or is there a version of it that runs in the terminal?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: ould run: gksudo nautilus and delete it there, why is terminal "annoying"
[11:14] <stevem_> I'll go back to Debian anyway, still was nice speaking with you folks
[11:14] <stevem_> I'll keep on backporting :D
[11:14] <joetheodd> movedx, X11? 80x86 is a processor.
[11:15] <joetheodd> movedx, and I'm not sure. :P
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: the terminal offers a billion times more power than the gui
[11:15] <movedx> joakim-: Sorry X11 yes. Hmm ok.
[11:15] <user01> should i just keep running hardy or upgrade to intrepid and later to jaunty on my laptop?
[11:15] <joetheodd> user01, i'd recommend intrepid. It's got all the latest goodies.
[11:15] <grobda24> Hello. Anyone any idea why my pulseaudio stops playback when I switch to a virtual console outside of X ?
[11:15] <Jimi_Neutral> because i justw ant to right click and delete the file....not type out the long names and that
[11:16] <user01> joetheodd, do i have to do a complete reinstall?
[11:16] <joetheodd> Jimi_Neutral, under normal circumstances (a file wasn't created by root), that's what you can usually do.
[11:16] <Jimi_Neutral> if i want to delete a file called 2009-03-31-12-img from and images fodler within home, what would i type
[11:16] <joetheodd> user01, nope. one sec and I'll find the instructions on the wiki
[11:17] <JScoobyCed> Hi. just bought a notebook compaq CQ, installed 8.10 (32bits and 64bits)..... I got the neverending "django-drum" problem
[11:17] <JScoobyCed> compaq CQ40
[11:17] <joetheodd> Jimi_Neutral, the command 'rm' is remove. It's ' rm filename ', but you need to do it as superuser. The full command is: sudo rm 2009-03-31-12-img
[11:17] <BoltClock> oh, ive solved my problem, enabled backports and upgraded svn to 1.5.1
[11:17] <user01> i thought lts meant it would be stable and i wouldnt have to worry about upgrading until 2011
[11:18] <Jimi_Neutral> ok ty and if there is more than one its just a space and then the next file name?
[11:18] <joetheodd> user01, lts is stable until 2011. You don't -need- to upgrade, it's strictly optional.
[11:18] <user01> joetheodd, so what am i missing?
[11:18] <chilli0> ikonia:  sorry dad said to get off. but im allowed back now
[11:19] <joetheodd> user01, basically new software added to ubuntu overall, and updates to old programs. Security stuff is always added in old versions, so you don't have to worry about that.
[11:19] <oCean_> !away > mafsi
[11:19] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral or an asterisk but BE CAREFULL as it will delete all the files in the dir
[11:19] <joetheodd> user01, basically nice stuff, but nothing important.
[11:19] <UKGent> If it was MS you would not need to upgrade for the next six years - if their past development cycle is anything to go by   lol
[11:19] <jtaji> user01: stability has little to do with it, it's the length of time that updates are provided, I don't mind updating every 6 months or so on a laptop
[11:19] <jtaji> user01: err, upgrading every 6 months or so
[11:19] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how to avoid those grey buttons on http://imagebin.ca/view/ZKqRpT.html
[11:19] <Jimi_Neutral> It says cannot delete file, no such file or directory
[11:20] <joetheodd> user01, to upgrade at any time, hit alt+f2 (to open the run box) and type 'update-manager -d'
[11:20] <chilli0> ikonia: im getting , Connection Failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[11:20] <joetheodd> wait, is intrepid an lts?
[11:20] <user01> jtaji, but it is safe now to just do an upgrade?  earlier versions of ubuntu didnt upgrade so cleanly
[11:20] <jtaji> user01: since hardy I've experienced all flawless upgrades
[11:20] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral: then you have spelt it wrong, try using tab to autocomplete
[11:20] <chilli0> brb
[11:21] <user01> jtaji, that would be 1 upgrade? :)
[11:21] <joetheodd> I think the problem was switching from XFree86 to X11, but I could be 100% wrong. Either way, I think it's resolved now.
[11:21] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: What is is supposed to be? Flash?
[11:21] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; yes
[11:21] <jtaji> user01: no sorry, I meant many machines
[11:21] <dAnjou> how can i create and edit a file which has the same name as a folder in the same directory via console?
[11:21] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: Under about:plugins do you see your flash version?
[11:22] <Extend> i recently added a ATI VGA to my machine , i didn't do anything else , i'm having a problem with screensaver , lock screen button is not working , i tried to remove and re-install gnome-screensaver and related applications but with no luck any help!!!?
[11:22] <jtaji> user01: 8.04 to 8.10 was smooth in every case
[11:22] <oCean_> !away > mafsi
[11:22] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; yes shockwave
[11:22] <Jimi_Neutral> it is spelt correctly.....do i not have to put the path in?
[11:23] <joetheodd> oCean_, he's probably actually away. Paging him over and over won't change anything.
[11:23] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: What version? Do other flash sites work?
[11:23] <KoolD> lshw -C display gives "*-display:0 UNCLAIMED" .How do i solve that??
[11:23] <mafsi> joetheodd: is about me?
[11:23] <joetheodd> Jimi_Neutral, see what folder you're in on the left of the command line. type 'ls' to LiSt off the files in the directory.
[11:24] <joetheodd> mafsi, do you have an away message on?
[11:24] <mafsi> joetheodd: i installed a plugin for xchat and now i have set it to silent
[11:24] <oCean_> mafsi: thanks
[11:24] <joetheodd> mafsi, okay. I was just wondering why he sent that to you like 3 or 4 times :P
[11:25] <nightmare> share shell ubutun at nightmarevn.com
[11:25] <mafsi> but i still got "`!away" from oCean_
[11:25] <mafsi> but no private message this time
[11:25] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; 9.0 r100   when i click the button it does work...but the video buffering seems to be too slow when compared with other browsers
[11:25] <Jimi_Neutral> desktop music private templates documetns images pictures public videos
[11:26] <Jimi_Neutral> the files are in home/images
[11:26] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: What Ubuntu version are you running? 32 bit / 64 bit?
[11:26] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; i also have vlc plugin and totem plugin
[11:26] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; 32
[11:26] <user01> wow it has to download 1.5 GB to upgrade
[11:26] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; i faced the same problem with 64 bit
[11:26] <chilli0> mkback
[11:27] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; but right now i m on 32
[11:27] <chilli0> ikonia:  are ya there?
[11:27] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: I also wonder why you've got 9, what version are you running? 8.04 / 8.10?
[11:28] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; 8.04..so what is the problem with 9
[11:28] <jtaji> Jimi_Neutral: so from where you are now you can use: sudo rm images/2009-03-31-12-img
[11:28] <UKGent> or use thunar !
[11:29] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: 9 had it's share of problems on Linux, 10 seems to be better... Maybe you could try that and see if you have the same issues.
[11:30] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; how do i get 10..can i directly upgrade it
[11:31] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: Uninstall 9 by removing flashplugin-nonfree, then go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/, select Linux, then .deb (Ubuntu) and install via double-click
[11:31] <JScoobyCed> Hi... anybody with help about sound drivers ... I have the drum sound playing and never ending... I am on 8.10 amd_x64 (same pb on i686)
[11:32] <joetheodd> This is kind of a broad question.. if I install a TV card into a box.. like the kind with the coaxial plugs on it, is there a way to set the box up to record on schedule?
[11:32] <JScoobyCed> it seems ok when I first install, then I do the live update (247 MB) then the drum won't stop
[11:32] <BuFF> where is wimrc file by default located?
[11:33] <clearscreen> BuFF: probably ~/.wimrc
[11:33] <clearscreen> but you could try a "sudo apt-get install locate && sudo updatedb && locate .wimrc"
[11:34] <JoeMama> how can I check if my ide cdrom is using DMA? its reading as a scsi device not an IDE
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> or: sudo find / -name .wimrc
[11:36] <ikonia> chilli0: yes, I am now
[11:36] <administrator__> how do i find out the name of my machine on LAN?
[11:36] <nocive> BuFF: /etc/vim/vimrc for all users and ~/.vimrc for user specific
[11:36] <chilli0> k
[11:36] <ikonia> administrator__: hostname will show you your currnet machine name
[11:36] <Tyrath> I accidently stuffed up alsa when i ran sudo alsa force-reload in an attempt to get my microphone working again after the latest intrepid updates. Is there any way I can get my sound back?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> JoeMama: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[11:37] <ml__> Hello. I am trying to format an external WD passport drive to NTFS, however, gparted from within Ubuntu won't do it. I know I can use a gparted live cd. But Is there a way to do it from within Ubuntu, just out of curiosity.?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> JoeMama: all new drives have IDE
[11:37] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; i m downloading it...how do i install it
[11:37] <administrator__> do u mean the user account name? right now it is administrator
[11:37] <beniwtv> PerryArmstrong: Just double-click the downloaded .deb file
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[11:38] <administrator__> OPh i got it. u mean run hostname on terminal?
[11:38] <nocive> ml__: u need to unmount the volume to format it
[11:38] <PerryArmstrong> beniwtv; thnk you
[11:38] <BuFF> clearscreen, ActiocParship, novice: thanks
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: if it moans about depenancys run: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:38] <administrator__> can't i change this to something meaningful?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> JoeMama: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/enabling-dma-in-ubuntu-363780/
[11:38] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; thank you
[11:39] <ml__> nocive, I don't believe it is mounted. It is a new drive no partion tables or anything.
[11:39] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; do you have another username with ActionParsnip1
[11:39] <Tyrath> actually I take that back
[11:39] <Tyrath> my sound is still working
[11:39] <Tyrath> it just shows as mute
[11:39] <Tyrath> really bizarre
[11:39] <Tyrath> if someone could help me fix my mic issue that would be great
[11:39] <nocive> ml__: then u need to fdisk /dev/drive and create the partition table to format
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: its because im logged in on another pc, so pidgin changes the name slightly
[11:40] <nocive> ml__: but as far as I know, WD passport disks come formatted from factory with software from western digital
[11:40] <Knat> I just finished setting up my ubuntu server, I installed subversion on it, but it always asks me for my username and password on each svn command, every other distro i have used it saves it after the first time i give it, how can i get it to store the username and passord and or key
[11:41] <Tyrath> ok youtube has flipped upside down
[11:41] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; i am trying to find out a messenger which allows voice chat for yahoo and gtalk accounts
[11:41] <Tyrath> does this happen for everyone or just me?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: gyache can do voice on yahoo
[11:41] <ml__> nocive, yeah they usually come in fat32. my friend wiped/ zeroed it out.
[11:41] <nocive> Tyrath: empathy?
[11:42] <Tyrath> nocive: isthat a prog?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !info empathy
[11:42] <nocive> ml__: then first u need to create the partition table in order to format it. gparted should be able to handle that
[11:42] <nocive> Tyrath: yup
[11:42] <Tyrath> oh wait
[11:42] <Jimi_Neutral> still said no such file or directory
[11:42] <Tyrath> nah fixed it
[11:42] <Tyrath> it was the new layout
[11:42] <Tyrath> it was doing strange things
[11:43] <FloodBot2> Tyrath: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:43] <Tyrath> not an issue on my comp
[11:43] <JoeMama> im not seeing anything in that list that tells me how to see if DMA is enabled
[11:43] <nocive> Tyrath: not sure if it does what u need, but check it out. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-voice-chat-with-google-talk-user-using-empathy.html
[11:43] <JoeMama> my cdrom IS listed as a scsi device but I dont know how to check the DMA settings
[11:43] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; what about gtalk??
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> JoeMama: if you use the hdparm command it will set it
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: no idea, ive never used it
[11:44] <sarmisak> JoeMama: is it a SATA drive?
[11:44] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; gyache isn't in the repos
[11:44] <Tyrath> nocive: thanks for the help. but my problem is more driver related. i think it's an alsa issue
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=498733
[11:45] <JoeMama> never mind thank you
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: i know, its needs download ing and maybe compileing
[11:45] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; okk thank you...i hope its good enough
[11:45] <administrator__> how do i change my system's name on LAN
[11:46] <Jimi_Neutral> do i have to change directory or something?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: is youor linux 32bit?
[11:46] <JoeMama> [    4.976313] ata5.00: ATAPI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202N, SB01, max UDMA/66
[11:46] <JoeMama> [    4.976326] ata5: nv_mode_filter: 0x1f39f&0x701f->0x701f, BIOS=0x7000 (0xc0000000) ACPI=0x701f (60:900:0x11)
[11:46] <JoeMama> [    4.992240] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/33
[11:47] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; 32bit
[11:47] <JoeMama> thank you VERY much guys.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: ive found a gutsy deb you could try.not making any promises, http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/2/9/1749988/gyachi_1.1.0-1_i386_gutsy.deb
[11:47] <JoeMama> im really surprised that centos doesn't do this by default, but damn good job devs
[11:51] <`ph8> hi everyone, i'm having a weird error - i've lost my top gnome toolbar! gnome-panel is running and i've still got the taskbar/desktop changer at the bottom - any idea how i can get it back?
[11:51] <Guest61741> anyone help me to give some answers about linux development
[11:52] <nocive> `ph8: add a new panel :)
[11:52] <`ph8> nocive, but where do i go to add said panel?
[11:52] <Myrtti> Guest61741: you're not asking anything?
[11:52] <nocive> `ph8: right click on the bottom panel and add a new one
[11:52] <Guest61741> just start now
[11:52] <`ph8> aha!
[11:53] <`ph8> so i have a panel
[11:53] <`ph8> just have to figure out how to add the default menus/clock etc back
[11:53] <Guest61741> how can i contribute in ubuntu development
[11:53] <nocive> `ph8: no luck there... if u lost the panel it's possible that your config was messed up. u have to had everything by hand
[11:54] <Guest61741> i mail to india team but i dont get any response
[11:54] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; when i tried to install gyachi...it says errors found while trying to install
[11:54] <SoS11> how can I auto-run some .sh files when I start a server???
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: as i said,it is a gutsy deb but worth a try, you will have to compile it
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !bum | SoS11
[11:55] <Jimi_Neutral> ah i got it, i needed to use sudo rm -r  and put the [path in single quotes
[11:55] <KoolD> what driver should i download for Mobile GM965/GL960
[11:55] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; no idea how to compile it
[11:56] <KoolD> *Intel Mobile GM965/GL960
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !compile | PerryArmstrong
[11:56] <`ph8> nocive, many thanks, added things back now
[11:56] <SoS11> ActionParsnip, but wont adding those files in /etc/rc.local make them run as root?
[11:57] <nocive> `ph8: np ;)
[11:58] <nocive> `ph8: u can make a backup of your current panel layout. just make a copy of the dir ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[11:59] <nocive> `ph8: there's also a handy python utility that allows you to save different panel layouts and restore them. u could also use  that for backing up your panels
[11:59] <HumpBack> Hello. I'm runing jaunty and I'm experiency a strange issue with keyboard. In Linux all goes ok, but if i start windows inside vmware the arrow keys are not working. Up does nothing and down opens the windows start menu.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SoS11: indeed, if you want them running when the user logs in check
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[12:00] <SoS11> !boot
[12:01] <pretender_> in storage device manager what does the remove button do
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> pretender_: i'd imagine it unmounts the partition
[12:06] <movedx> Can anyone remember the name of that music player that runs inside of the terminal?
[12:06] <pretender_> there is a unmount button but when i use that it un mounts it then appears next boot
[12:07] <mgolisch> movedx: moc?
[12:08] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[12:08] <movedx> mgolisch: yes! that's it. cheers
[12:08] <b3rz3rk3r> netsplit!!!! :D
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> movedx: mplayer
[12:09] <b3rz3rk3r> chanserv give ops to bot and not me... lame
[12:10] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; what type of file is that gyache you provided...i need to know the extension so that i can compile it
[12:10] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; is it just .deb..but it appears to be zip
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: dpkg -i <deb name>
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> PerryArmstrong: if you go to the gyache site and get the source it will be a tar.gz no doubt and you will need  ta zxvf <file>
[12:12] <PerryArmstrong> ActionParsnip; you provided me a link of gyachi belonging to gutsy
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> then that is a deb
[12:12] <axelpaxel> I have a problem. I can't create/format/do-anything-at-all with my external hdd in Gparted, I get the error "Cannot read the contents of this filesystem". I've tried PartitionMagic in Win, but it only gives me errors too.
[12:12] <comicinker1> how can I make use of a multicore during ./configure && make ?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: what filesystem are they?
[12:13] <axelpaxel> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: are yuo mounting with ntfs-3g?
[12:15] <axelpaxel> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure, how do I check that? I'm just plugging the drive in, and Hardy does it's magic, hehe
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: run mount in terminal
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> it will say how its mounted, you could manually mount it with better options
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g
[12:18] <axelpaxel> This is the one: "/dev/sdb1 on /media/WD Elements Uber type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[12:18] <axelpaxel> "
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: i would manually mount it with better options, i would make sure it has been cleanly removed from a windows system too
[12:20] <axelpaxel> I just removed it cleanly from a windows system. How do I mount it with better options then?
[12:21] <axelpaxel> ActionParsnip: I have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed, if I need any of those do get the job done
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: good stuff
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> axelpaxel: look at the ntfs-3g factoid link and it will help
[12:26] <axelpaxel> Alright, I'll look into that. Thank you for the help:)
[12:28] <Shoopuf> Is it OK for my hard disk/computer if I'm running Ubuntu and playing MP3s from a NTFS partition? I'm paranoid that they don't mingle well together.
[12:28] <Shoopuf> Ubuntu is on an EXT3 partition, and my music is on an external USB drive that is NTFS
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Shoopuf: sure, no worries at all
[12:29] <Shoopuf> ActionParsnip: ok thanks :)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Shoopuf: the kernel can read ntfs natively but needs extra functionality to write to it (and the write is mildly limited)
[12:31] <Shoopuf> I'm trying to copy a file to an EXT3 partition I made with GParted... When I try to copy a file to it it says "Permission denied" ... I tried checking the drive's Properties and it said that "The permissions of "Home" could not be determined." (Home is the name of the partition)
[12:32] <needhelp> Hello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?
[12:32] <ikonia> Shoopuf: did you create the partition on a disk that is mounted already ?
[12:32] <ikonia> Shoopuf: have you put a file system on the partition ?
[12:32] <jrib> Shoopuf: see if you can check the permissions if you use sudo too
[12:33] <utakbiya> hi everyone! how can you save a screen when in 3D box? what key will you press? thanks in advance...im just new in ubuntu
[12:33] <Shoopuf> Hmm, I might have created it while it was mounted... I remember having to fool around with it a lot before it finally formatted to EXT3.
[12:34] <ikonia> Shoopuf: if it's created while mounted you'll need to re-read the TOC on the disk
[12:35] <lockd> utakbiya: print screen key
[12:36] <Shoopuf> I did a "ls -al" in the /media directory and it says that that partition is "drwxr-xr-x" ... Looks like I just gotta turn on write.. Maybe
[12:36] <lockd> utakbiya: hmm, apparently that doesn't work. you might have to set it up as a timer
[12:36] <ikonia> Shoopuf: it's write for the owner already
[12:38] <quizme> how do i undo a rm -rf *  ?
[12:38] <quizme> am i fucked/
[12:38] <jrib> quizme: restore from your backups
[12:38] <bullgard4>  "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." What is the "Device Manager" for my sound hardware in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:38] <jrib> !recover | quizme
[12:39] <needhelp> Hello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp videofiles to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?
[12:39] <quizme> thnx
[12:40] <bullgard4>  "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." Welches Programm ist der "Device Manager" für meine ardware in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:41] <nikos> hello, how can i mount a usb flash fisk>
[12:41] <nikos> ubuntu doesnt automatically mount it when iam sticking it in
[12:42] <SPF> !de | bullgard4
[12:43] <nikos> ?
[12:44] <SPF> nikos: does the usb stick show up in /var/log/messages when you plug it in?
[12:46] <bullgard4> SPF: Note carefully: I have put here an English question. Did you anser it?
[12:46] <bullgard4> SPF: Note carefully: I have put here an English question. Did you answer it?
[12:47] <ussaine> hello
[12:47] <illmortal> Can anyone assist me in getting my wireless card to work? Ubuntu 8.10 recognizes my network card but I need to install the windows wireless drivers, but i have no internet connectivity
[12:48] <SPF> bullgard4: ah yes, now I see it. I don't know where it's located, sorry
[12:50] <illmortal> Can anyone assist me in getting my wireless card to work? Ubuntu 8.10 recognizes my network card but I need to install the windows wireless drivers, but i have no internet connectivity
[12:51] <s3r3n1t7> !wireless | illmortal
[12:51] <naftilos76> Hi guys, if i have 4GBs of RAM which kernel should i install from the repos in order for all 4GBs to be available?????????
[12:52] <naftilos76> PAE?
[12:52] <naftilos76> I don't see any PAE!
[12:52] <Akio> #ubuntu
[12:52] <Akio> Hello?
[12:53] <grawity> Hi Akio.
[12:53] <Akio> Hey
[12:53] <Akio> I just finished installing Ubuntu
[12:53] <Akio> I decided to Dual Boot it with Vista
[12:53] <AntiNeko> Hey, having trouble chaning the default sound source.
[12:54] <frybye> hi - when trying to use gparted to fomat a sdhc drive that had bet setup as a boot-usb-stick I get a fault report.. what special method do I need to use??
[12:54] <Akio> I was wondering if some of you guys might have some suggestions of good programs I should install? Also, I was hoping someone could tell me how to get the Lucidia Calligraphy font on Ubuntu
[12:55] <AntiNeko> Akio: Amarok music player!
[12:55] <clearscreen> Akio: open synaptic, plenty of applications to choose from
[12:56] <Akio> Thanks. I looked through the add/remove program, but I don't know what would be useful yet
[12:56] <clearscreen> What's useful is whatever YOU are going to use :P
[12:56] <grawity> Akio: AdBlockPlus (if you use Firefox). A music player (Rhythmbox, Banshee, AmaroK). And... what programs you used most before Ubuntu?
[12:57] <clearscreen> there's decriptions with every software package in synaptic
[12:57] <AntiNeko> Akio: Is Lucidia Calligraphy integradet in Vista?
[12:57] <Akio> In the ultimate version, yes
[12:57] <raven> hi - is it possible to import AVIS from CANON CAM with THM Files or perhaps to write the time-dates into the video-tags?
[12:57] <AntiNeko> Akio: You can find your Vista-files by going to My Computer -> Filesystem -> host
[12:57] <grawity> clearscreen: Ubuntu's "Add/remove programs" is a little easier than Synaptic, i think...
[12:57] <Akio> Yeah, but can I install them directly from my Vista directory
[12:57] <Akio> Brb
[12:58] <sarmisak> raven: I have imported AVIs before, but you might need a IEEE1394 connection, I don't recall it well
[12:58] <clearscreen> grawity: almost the same thing :P
[12:58] <AntiNeko> Akio: Copy whatever font you want to install into Ubuntu into usr -> share -> (press CTRL+H to show hidden files) fonts -> truetype. Just put them in there as far as I know
[12:59] <Akio> Thank you
[12:59] <AntiNeko> Akio: You're welcome! What music player do you use in Vista?
[13:00] <Akio> I used Windows Media Player. I installed the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack
[13:00] <enigma> hi how to check my graphics card in console? I have integrated intel card
[13:00] <coincoin161> hi can ask you a TeX question cause nobody answering me at #latex : In pure TeX is there a equivalent of \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} so that TeX will recognize my accents correctly ?
[13:01] <AntiNeko> enigma: Try lspci
[13:01] <lepassive> Hi I don't find packages in synaptic! though i can install it from apt-get directly ??
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> enigma: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:01] <opmd> someone has installed slackware sometimes?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> lepassive: ive seen this asked a lot, no idea
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> opmd: once, didnt like it
[13:02] <lepassive> ActionParsnip, I had a problem with my previous installation, however, i got / formated and installed ubuntu 8.04 and disto upgrade it to 8.10
[13:02] <chenzhong> 终于加入了
[13:02] <sarmisak> lepassive: maybe you should enable 3rd party software?
[13:02] <tdi> http://www.postgresql.fr/
[13:02] <needhelp> Hello, does anyone know how to copy .3gp videofiles to a Sony Ericsson K660i ?
[13:02] <sarmisak> !cn | chenzhong
[13:02] <Man_of_Wax> hi all
[13:02] <Man_of_Wax> i'm tryning to install ubuntu 8.10 on my mactel (october relese) but refit can't find ubuntu cdrom
[13:02] <Primedeath> Which makes a better external storage solution, NTFS / ext2 / ext3? It's most likely be connected to my router.. Would EXT3 make more sense? Last time I had it EXT3 I couldn't mount it in WinXP (With IFS)
[13:02] <Man_of_Wax> ubuntu cdrom works fine in my desktop computer
[13:03] <azlon1> is there any software that will compare the EXIF timestamp on my photos with my GPS tracking file and geocode my photos for me?
[13:03] <lepassive> sarmisak, I got http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu in 3rd party tab already
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Man_of_Wax: have you configured your system to boot cd and no other media
[13:04] <Man_of_Wax> ActionParsnip: refit don't do this automatically?
[13:04] <Man_of_Wax> how can I set my mac to boot from cd?
[13:04] <opmd> <ActionParsnip> your opinion?
[13:05] <bullgard4>  "The entries in the Device Manager for your sound hardware will tell you whether Ubuntu has been able to identify the device, what it has identified it as, and whether valid entries for that device exist in the /sys filesystem, which is a virtual filesystem that provides direct access to various aspects of your system hardware." What is the "Device Manager" for my sound hardware in Ubuntu 8.04?
[13:05] <Akio> Excuse me, but why do I not have permissions in the usr folder?
[13:05] <sarmisak> lepassive: strange, it should install any package then
[13:05] <Peter[i]> Does anybody know a wireframe application for linux?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Man_of_Wax: i couldnt say I dont use it
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> opmd: of what?
[13:05] <sarmisak> lepassive: maybe some other problem about the repos
[13:06] <opmd> of slackware ,man
[13:06] <sarmisak> Akio: why should you?
[13:06] <lepassive> sarmisak, it does but only through apt-get commandline, but not through synaptic i can't find common packages like KDE, Haskell, .. etc
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Akio: its not yours, use sudo / gksudo to write stuff to it and edit files therin
[13:06] <jrib> Man_of_Wax: hold down the 'c' key while booting
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> opmd: not bad but i prefer other systems
[13:06] <ikonia>  bullgard4 it's the device manager application from the system->administration menu
[13:06] <Man_of_Wax> jrib: before  refit?
[13:07] <Akio> What's sudo / gksudo? How can I give my account full permissions in Ubuntu?
[13:07] <ginbuntu> can some one help me with syncing my music to my iphone? I have it jailbroken and amarok can connect to it etc, but after the file transfer and disconnect ipod on my iphone still says "No music" :(
[13:07] <jrib> Man_of_Wax: yeah, though I though refit would give you the cd option if you have refit already
[13:07] <jrib> Akio: the first account has full permissions
[13:08] <jrib> !sudo | Akio
[13:08] <rs_> how long the fluxbuntu 8:10 or 9:04? thx
[13:08] <opmd> ok,I'm looking for a console system just to squeeze the maximum of my pc
[13:08] <Man_of_Wax> jrib: thank you... it works :)
[13:08] <Akio> I am the first account. I just unlocked the panel and added myself to the root group
[13:08] <jrib> Akio: the "root group"?  Don't do that...
[13:08] <grawity> Akio: :O !@#$%%
[13:09] <bullgard4> ikonia: System > Administration does not show an 'Device Manager' entry in Ubuntu 8.04.
[13:09] <jrib> Akio: I think we need to ask a different question:  What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[13:09] <rs_> please,how long the fluxbuntu 8:10 or 9:04? thank you all
[13:09] <Akio> I want to be able to have complete control of my computer easily. I just installed Ubuntu
[13:09] <enigma> I change monitor, and I don't have higher resolutions, where add them in xorg.conf , my sorg http://pastebin.com/d7df2fe1f
[13:09] <g00gle1> O.o
[13:09] <jrib> Akio: you do by default.  What exactly do you want to do that you are unable to?
[13:10] <Akio> I can't copy a font file into the truetype folder
[13:10] <jrib> Akio: use ~/.fonts
[13:10] <rs_> och
[13:10] <alessio> cia
[13:10] <alessio> ciao
[13:10] <alessio> !list
[13:10] <YankDownUnder> Yeah, copy it into the /home/yourname/.fonts/ directory and restart the application
 you have installed gentoo?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> opmd: many times
[13:11] <opmd> you opinion?
[13:11] <Akio> Um... sorry, I'm new to Linux. What do I do with ~./fonts?
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: system -> preferences
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> opmd: kick ass, takes a while but once you get to grips its pretty awesome
[13:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: system -> hardware something like that
[13:11] <ziroday> Akio: its where you stick fonts
[13:11] <YankDownUnder> Akio, There is a directory in your home folder - it's called .fonts => copy the font into that folder
[13:11] <edi_99> Hi guys. Hi. What's the terminal command  to set javac to the latest version... I'm trying javac -source 1.7 -7 -7.0 but it's still set to 1.3 (sorry for kinda off topic question)
[13:12] <AntiNeko> Akio: I recognize this... ;D My apps wouldn't recognize fonts being copied into home/myname/.fonts. If you want to copy the fonts into usr.share.fonts then press ALT+F2, and type in gksudo nautilus
[13:12] <jrib> Akio: nothing.  I didn't say "~./fonts".  I said "~/.fonts".  Open ~/.fonts in nautilus and copy your font there.  You may need to create it first.  Note the '.'
[13:12] <AntiNeko> Akio: This will give you the permission you want
[13:13] <Akio> Thank you
[13:13] <g00gle1> sorry to disturb, somebody can help me with my pen?
[13:13] <g00gle1> The wiki is not working straight...
[13:13] <joneskoo> the . is a convention and means it's hidden
[13:14] <Ajit> what is location of bash_profile?
[13:14] <ziroday> Ajit: ~/.bashrc
[13:15] <grawity> Ajit: ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc
[13:15] <takao> hi, does ndiswrapper has dependencies . my laptop only has wireless, i need to download this in advance to get internet working after install
[13:16] <takao> ?
[13:16] <netsurf3> can someone help me i'm getting a dvd+rw that keeps reporting preformatting failed
[13:16] <milligan_> mod_auth_imap2 isn't in the ubuntu repos !?
[13:17] <opmd> i don't know..i am downloading  gentoo 686 for machine of  64 bit .you opinion <ActionParsnip>?
[13:17] <lepassive> I'm desperate :(
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> opmd: get the amd64 minimal
[13:17] <opmd> ok thanks
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> opmd: and have the handbook open on another system and walk through it
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> opmd: as soon as you get a boot loader, kernel and network sorted you can emerge to our hearts content
[13:18] <joneskoo> takao: do you mean you're going to download ndiswrapper .deb and install it? as far as I can tell from apt-cache show ndiswrapper-common, no.
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> opmd: you will need #gentoo for help too
[13:19] <joneskoo> takao: I guess you need the ndis drivers to use with it though
[13:19] <Shoopuf> Anyone know how to get the latest version of Prism 0.9 for Ubuntu 8.10? The version I got from the repository is only 0.8, and I hear 0.9 is waaay better.
[13:19] <opmd> I do not know if levnatara dual boot with ubuntu...
[13:19] <takao> joneskoo, thanks
[13:20] <ginbuntu> I'm pissed :(
[13:20] <KoolD> how do you grab a few starting bytes from a file using dd??
[13:20] <Akio> Hey, I put the font file in the Truetype folder, but Pidgin won't see it, any advice?
[13:20] <r_bender> can anyone help restore /home and / from tar.gz?
[13:21] <sarmisak> r_bender: tar zxvf tar_file.tar.gz
[13:21] <AntiNeko> Akio: Do you find it if you go to Control Center - Appearence - Fonts ?
[13:22] <Akio> Yeah,  do
[13:22] <Akio> I*
[13:22] <grey08> hello, i m trying to install nvidia driver for my ubuntu 8.10 desktop
[13:22] <ziroday> Akio: did you restart pidgin?
[13:22] <r_bender> sarmisak:  I have tar on an external drive to restore to my internal;  how do I restore the root directory and the home directory?
 my problem is what gentoo failed xserver xorg display
[13:22] <ziroday> grey08: whats the problem?
[13:22] <grey08> hello ziroday
[13:22] <Akio> That would be a good idea, thanks
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> opmd: its offtopic for this channel, this is #ubuntu
[13:22] <grey08> when i tried to install the driver, it says i appear to using x server
[13:22] <grey08> it needs me to stop using it
[13:23] <ziroday> grey08: what command are you running?
[13:23] <azlon1> is there something that will allow me to change the time of a batch of photos? I need to change the time of 200 photos +4 hours
[13:23] <opmd> ok is a theme complicated
[13:23] <grey08> sh nvidia.run
[13:23] <InspectHerGadget> why i dont have gufw icon in start menu aplication?
[13:23] <ziroday> grey08: okay, stop doing that.
[13:23] <grey08> oh
[13:23] <grey08> ok
[13:23] <ziroday> grey08: thats the wrong way to do it :)
[13:23] <grey08> ohh
[13:24] <grey08> thanks for enlighten me:)
[13:24] <sarmisak> r_bender: does not matter, cd into /home directory, and use it like this; tar zxvf /external/drive/path/tar_file.tar.gz
[13:24] <zgmf-x20a> seb
[13:24] <anjelradko> how install nvidia gtx260 on debian lenny? how packages i need? thanks
[13:24] <bazhang> anjelradko, ask in #debian
[13:24] <ziroday> grey08: and follow these nice instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:24] <grey08> thanks :)
[13:25] <anjelradko> thanks
[13:25] <bullgard4> ikonia: System > Control Center > Hardware > Sound opens the dialog 'Sound Preferences'. There exists a tab 'Devices' which allows me to select 'Devicess', among other things. In a way, one could call that a 'sound device manager' but I consider this rather remote. Can you comment.
[13:25] <Akio> Ok, so Pidgin sees the font, and the font button is written in Lucida, but when I type my text doesn't appear in Lucida
[13:25] <ikonia> bullgard4: seems like the right application
[13:25] <ziroday> Akio: did you change your preferences to write in Lucida?
[13:25] <Akio> Yeah, I did
[13:25] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ok, thank you.
[13:26] <aitvara> hello
[13:26] <quinin> hello
[13:26] <aitvara> my apt-get update isn't working well , I got Err
[13:26] <r_bender> sarmisak: ok I'll try, thanks
[13:26] <ziroday> Akio: so in the Preferences > Conversation > Use document font from theme is unticked and you've selected lucida?
[13:26] <quinin> hola
[13:26] <aitvara> quinin do you wanna try to help-me ?
[13:27] <ziroday> aitvara: whats your error?
[13:27] <Ienorand> aitvara: net issues, sudo?
[13:27] <scunizi> Shoopuf: don't know if anyone answered you on the prism question or not but on https://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism there's a tar for linux and a .deb of the latest version.
[13:27] <Akio> Ah, thank you, I didn't know I had to untick that box. MSN is much easier to use
[13:28] <Shoopuf> scunizi: thanks.. i was downloading the .tar.gz... >__< Will grab the .deb
[13:28] <InspectHerGadget> x
[13:28] <scunizi> Shoopuf: might be easier
[13:28] <ikonia> InspectHerGadget: ?
[13:28] <ziroday> Akio: no, you just want to have everything different :)
[13:28] <illmortal> Can someone please assist me on getting my wireless card to work. I have no internet connection and all the drivers I tried to install using ndiswrapper supposedly are invalid.
[13:28] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!
[13:28] <InspectHerGadget> ikonia, nothin
[13:28] <Akio> ^^U True. I'll learn to use this. Thanks again
[13:29] <aitvara> My error is this Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg
[13:29] <aitvara>   Connection failed
[13:29] <aitvara> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[13:29] <aitvara>   Connection failed
[13:29] <aitvara> Err http://br.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[13:29] <FloodBot1> aitvara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <aitvara>   Connection failed
[13:29] <illmortal> Can someone please assist me on getting my wireless card to work. I have no internet connection and all the drivers I tried to install using ndiswrapper supposedly are invalid.
[13:29] <ziroday> aitvara: are you connected to the internet?
[13:29] <AntiNeko> Hey, Rhythmbox won't play Mp3s even if all Gstreamer-packages possible are installed
[13:29] <ziroday> illmortal: no promises, but what card?
[13:29] <ziroday> AntiNeko: do other sound files play?
[13:30] <aitvara> ziroday yeah
[13:30] <zgmf-x20a> sebsebseb are you here?  but under a diff name???????????
[13:30] <scunizi> AntiNeko: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras..
[13:30] <ziroday> aitvara: edgy is EOL
[13:30] <illmortal> broadcom
[13:30] <scunizi> !mp3 | AntiNeko
[13:30] <aitvara> my error is here take a look I did paste http://rafb.net/p/8RqfRe28.html
[13:30] <ziroday> !eol | aitvara
[13:30] <ziroday> illmortal: what model?
[13:31] <ziroday> aitvara: you need to upgrade
[13:31] <AntiNeko> ziroday: Totem and Rhythmbbox won't play anything. Amarok and VLC plays everything. I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[13:31] <aitvara> upgrade what ?
[13:31] <illmortal> ziroday: WMP54GS
[13:31] <ziroday> aitvara: to a newer version of ubuntu
[13:31] <ziroday> illmortal: thanks, gimme a sec :)
[13:31] <illmortal> :D
[13:31] <aitvara> why ? I never saw a thing like that
[13:31] <ziroday> illmortal: are you currently following any guide?
[13:31] <ziroday> aitvara: because edgy is eol, see what ubottu just told you
[13:32] <illmortal> Yes... but ndiswrapper claims all the drivers are wrong -.- ziroday
[13:32] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!
[13:32] <ziroday> illmortal: exact error message?
[13:32] <scunizi> aitvara: your version of ubuntu is several versions behind.  Other than LTS (Long term support 3-5 yrs support) the other releases are good for 18 months.
[13:32] <aitvara> ok i'll visit that site
[13:32] <illmortal> When I attempt to do a -l command it shows all the drivers I installed and they read, "invalid" on each driver. ziroday
[13:33] <ziroday> illmortal: err, can you pastebin the output of lspci please
[13:33] <aitvara> my ubuntu is 8 , stable
[13:33] <aitvara> not end of life
[13:33] <Dark-J> hi every one
[13:33] <ziroday> aitvara: no you are using 6.10, or at least 6.10 repo's
[13:33] <grey08> i have followed the instruction at the page, but the driver still won't activated
[13:33] <YankDownUnder> Erf...and here I thought 8.10 died last week...dang...
[13:34] <AntiNeko> Reinstalled all gstreamer plugins, rhythmbox and restricted-extras, but Rhythmbox still says there's no MP3 decoder.
[13:34] <illmortal> crap... this isn't gonna work. I'm on Windows... and my Ubuntu partition has no internet connectivity at all.
[13:34] <ziroday> grey08: err you went to hardware drivers and ticked the box and hit apply?
[13:34] <illmortal> ziroday^
[13:34] <grey08> yes
[13:34] <grey08> glx-96
[13:34] <ziroday> grey08: did you reboot?
[13:34] <goldenx> how to get my ubuntu version info?
[13:34] <ziroday> !version | goldenx
[13:34] <grey08> nope
[13:34] <grey08> ok, lol
[13:34] <grey08> reboot now ")
[13:34] <aitvara> ziroday you're guessing my ubuntu version coming from sources.list file , right ?
[13:34] <ziroday> illmortal: err I just need the networking line
[13:35] <ziroday> aitvara: correct, please pastebin the output of lsb_release -a
[13:35] <theD3viL11> could someone help me with my tv-out on intel 855gm please?
[13:35] <aitvara> uname-a says that my kernel is 2.6.27 , and I never changed him
[13:35] <goldenx> goldenx@goldenx:~$ !version
[13:35] <scunizi> aitvara: type lsb_release -a in a terminal to verify what version is installed.
[13:35] <goldenx> bash: !version: event not found
[13:35] <aitvara> ok
[13:35] <ziroday> goldenx: type in lsb_release -a to get your ubuntu version
[13:35] <goldenx> No LSB modules are available.
[13:35] <goldenx> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[13:35] <goldenx> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04
[13:35] <goldenx> Release:	8.04
[13:35] <goldenx> Codename:	hardy
[13:35] <FloodBot1> goldenx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <goldenx> thanks
[13:36] <aitvara> there is http://rafb.net/p/xk0MNJ83.html
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: lsb_release -c   for codename only ;)
[13:36] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!
[13:36] <illmortal> ugh... the developers of Ubuntu need to stop making so many versions and just make one complete distro -.-
[13:36] <goldenx> am I muted???
[13:36] <ziroday> aitvara: okay, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[13:36] <ziroday> illmortal: what do you mean?
[13:36] <AntiNeko> It's giving me "The Gstreamer plugins to decode "MP3" files cannot be found"
[13:36] <ziroday> goldenx: only temporarily for flooding the channel, you can speak now
[13:36] <scunizi> aitvara: looks like your sources list needs modification..
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: ubuntu dont make the parts so thats not possible
[13:37] <illmortal> they keep remaking new ubuntus and they never complete their jobs.
[13:37] <goldenx> okay thanks for giving me voice again
[13:37] <AntiNeko> But it's there. :)
[13:37] <illmortal> thus making it harder for people like me to enjoy linux
[13:37] <aitvara> http://rafb.net/p/LXFLqs87.html
[13:37] <illmortal> thus makin us go back to windows
[13:37] <illmortal> and hating life.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: ubuntu is a concactonation of muliple projects
[13:37] <ziroday> illmortal: err did you get that info for me?
[13:37] <Kahlil> Could someone tell me if Ubuntu comes with the necessary drivers to run "GeForce GTX 295 1792MB" video card on a 64 bit system?
[13:37] <Myrtti> illmortal: did you have ubuntu support related questions?
[13:37] <goldenx> i got problem on installing flash player for my firefox --- you tube
[13:37] <scunizi> illmortal: at least they complete more every 6 mths instead of every 6 years like redmond
[13:37] <ziroday> Kahlil: what version of ubuntu?
[13:37] <Kahlil> any
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Kahlil: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180   should fix you up
[13:38] <illmortal> Myrtti... about 5 minutes ago I asked a question in regards to getting my wireless card to work.. and the only way that'll work is if i have internet connectino in the first place -.-
[13:38] <ziroday> Kahlil: if you have intrepid you should be good
[13:38] <Kahlil> i havent got Ubuntu yet, im going to be building a system, and want to make sure that the video card will work to its full potential
[13:38] <ziroday> illmortal: and I have explained to you, I only need one line so I know what card you have
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: does wired work?
[13:38] <goldenx> ﻿i got problem on installing flash player for my firefox --- you tube, does anyone have solution?
[13:38] <ziroday> goldenx: what is not working?
[13:38] <aitvara> scunizi some people said to me about iptables or router firewall be blocking the contact with the apt-get server , but I don't use any of these things
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: 32bit or 64bit linux?
[13:39] <aitvara> so is weird the thing that he isn't working , isn't ?
[13:39] <Kahlil> i looked and drivers on nvidia site, but could not see where it said the GFX 295 was supported
[13:39] <ziroday> aitvara: you need to change everything that says edgy to intrepid
[13:39] <scunizi> Kahlil: I don't recognize that card.. check nvidia's site for the linux driver that is needed for it.. Ubuntu comes with version 173, 177 and an older one.. you can install newer ones manually.
[13:39] <aitvara> ok i'll try this
[13:39] <illmortal> ziroday... ill log onto ubuntu and use lspci and write it down... brb.
[13:39] <goldenx> installing errors bec of dependencies....
[13:39] <Kahlil> its the latest nvidia card
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: is your linux 32bit or 64bit?
[13:39] <goldenx> ﻿installing errors bec of dependencies....  --- flashplayer for firefox
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Kahlil: bleeding edge cards dont usually work well with linux
[13:39] <goldenx> just 32 bit i gues
[13:40] <ziroday> Kahlil: see http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.44.html that driver is in intrepid
[13:40] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, can anyone help me out with remote desktop please?  i am trying to set it up so i can connect over the internet.  main pc = ubuntu 8.10, pc that will be connecting over net, eeebuntu.  thanks!
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: can you give the output of uname -a
[13:40] <goldenx> im using ubuntu via VM
[13:40] <scunizi> aitvara: if you are on version 8.10 and your sources have Edgy repos listed, you'll have errors.. you may have the correct 8.10 repos listed as well and you're just getting errors when the sys trys to connect to the edgy stuff..
[13:40] <ziroday> Kahlil: I got that from http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us, you are in doubt you should contact nvidia support
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> \
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: doesnt matter
[13:41] <aitvara> ok scunizi thanks i'll change now
[13:41] <goldenx> Linux goldenx 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ok its 32bit
[13:41] <ziroday> scunizi: no he doesn't, he just has the edgy repo's listed
[13:41] <scunizi> aitvara: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:41] <Kahlil> ziroday: yea, the GFX 295 is not listed there :-/
[13:41] <Tcl> !1ubuntubot
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:41] <Tcl> !ubuntubot
[13:41] <ziroday> aitvara: you need to replace all the "edgy" with "intrepid"
[13:42] <Kahlil> ziroday: it is listed under http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.22.html but thats not a 64 bit driver is it?
[13:42] <scunizi> ziroday: no he doesn't what? have any of the 8.10 repos? I asked him to look if he had both listed in sources and comment out the edgy stuff.
[13:42] <abhra> howntu? to improve the performance of opera in ubu
[13:42] <ziroday> Kahlil: sorry, I didn't make myself clear. If you go to http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us and select your card it will say that driver supports it
[13:42] <goldenx> [13:42] <ActionParsnip> abhra: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-396697.html
[13:43] <ziroday> Kahlil: support for your card was added in -180.22, its currently at -180.44. If it doesn't work in intrepid it will work in jaunty
[13:43] <Defience> I need help with a Wubi error I'm getting
[13:43] <goldenx> [13:43] <ginbuntu> some one helpps me with my iphone 3G
[13:43] <scunizi> aitvara: if you don't have any intrepid repos listed then what ziroday said is correct
[13:43] <theD3viL11> could someone help me with my tv-out on intel 855gm please?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: can you pastebin the errors you get?
[13:43] <abhra> thanks
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !paste | goldenx
[13:43] <ziroday> scunizi: and according to http://rafb.net/p/LXFLqs87.html he doesn't
[13:43] <rraj_be> hi
[13:43] <Kahlil> ziroday: Ahh i see, i didnt see it on the list, but that was under "added support for the following GPUs" my mistake
[13:43] <ziroday> ginbuntu: I've already pointed you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[13:43] <scunizi> ziroday: thanks. never saw that link
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> can someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!
[13:44] <Defience> Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[13:44] <Defience>  press any Key to Continue
[13:44] <goldenx> ﻿ActionParsnip : i'll send to you via PM == ERRORS
[13:44] <ziroday> Kahlil: but short story, if it doesn't work in intrepid it will work in jaunty
[13:44] <grey08> ziroday... error message came up"Failed to load the kernel module"
[13:44] <Kahlil> ziroday: jaunty being the upcoming release in 20 or so days?
[13:44] <ziroday> Kahlil: yep
[13:45] <grey08> " screen(s) found, but non have usable configuration"
[13:45] <ziroday> Kahlil: in fact if you gimme a sec I can verify that for you
[13:45] <Kahlil> ziroday: thank you very much, greatly appreciated
[13:45] <Kahlil> ziroday: thank you
[13:45] <ziroday> grey08: did you try to install the drivers manually?
[13:46] <grey08> with the .run i downloaded?
[13:46] <Ryder5> Can anyone help me with the gnome menu button?
[13:46] <Ryder5> i need it too look like mac
[13:46] <ziroday> Kahlil: yep, the driver is in jaunty, unfortunately not in intrepid
[13:46] <scunizi> Ryder5: you need to look for a Mac theme
[13:46] <ziroday> Kahlil: however I would imagine it would get backported after jaunty is released
[13:46] <Ryder5> Ive got the mac theme
[13:46] <Kahlil> ziroday: the beta is still availble to use before the release, if i want to try before that right?
[13:46] <Ryder5> just not the gnome menu button
[13:47] <scunizi> Ryder5: sorry no solution.. just that one suggestion
[13:47] <ziroday> Kahlil: of course, you can download jaunty now if you so wish
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: use pastebin, don't pm me the errors
[13:47] <Defience> I need help with a Wubi error I'm getting
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[13:47] <goldenx> actionparsnip : how to paste? i was muted and KICKED
[13:48] <zgmf-x20a> can someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!
[13:48] <Kahlil> ziroday: so all in all i should be fine purchasing this graphics card and trying ubuntu? :)
[13:48] <goldenx> !paste
[13:48] <ziroday> Kahlil: correct
[13:48] <Kahlil> zerioday: thank you again!
[13:48] <ziroday> Kahlil: I know how worrying it is building your machine :)
[13:48] <florin_> ikonia
[13:49] <matt_keys> I have a networking problem. eth0 and eth1 are both set to different public ips but on the same broadcast, netmask, and gateway. eth0 does not respond to pings, but eth1 does. i switched the ips on the interfaces, and the reverse happens
[13:49] <Kahlil> ziroday: yea, and i have been using mac for about 4 years, so much new stuff to look at!
[13:50] <goldenx> !paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/142044/
[13:50] <goldenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142044/
[13:50] <grey08> ziroday, how do i install it manually? with the instruction from www.nvidia.com, it needs me to stop using the x server....
[13:50] <for3st> ubottu hello
[13:51] <Defience> What is this? Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[13:51] <goldenx> actionparsnip == have you gotten the ERRORS? i have used the pastebin
[13:51] <erUSUL> Defience: pass it an absolute pathname not a relative one
[13:52] <grey08> hello, ziroday
[13:52] <illmortal> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m49d6338
[13:52] <Defience> erUSUL: Can you explain that a bit? like: F:/ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz   ?
[13:52] <goldenx> ﻿actionparsnip == have you gotten the ERRORS? i have used the pastebin
[13:52] <aitvara> ziroday I replaced all the edgy for intrepid , and didn't work yet
[13:53] <aitvara> I replaced with a perl script that I made , and replaced well , but still not working apt-get update
[13:53] <erUSUL> Defience: in linux there are no drive letters it should be /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz for example
[13:53] <ziroday> illmortal: right, one sec
[13:53] <illmortal> understood
[13:53] <erUSUL> Defience: telling what program is giving the error would help
[13:53] <Defience> erUSUL:yes, that's what is there
[13:53] <ziroday> grey08: sorry was away, did you try to install the drivers from nvidia.com?
[13:54] <Defience> erUSUL: I installed Wubi to my F: drive, when booting up I get that Error 1: message
[13:54] <ziroday> illmortal: okay, your network card is the BCM4318, in future people need that to help you :)
[13:54] <illmortal> oh ok...
[13:55] <ziroday> illmortal: coupla more secs
[13:55] <erUSUL> Defience: not very familiar with wubi installs... i suspect is grub which is erroring out but do not know how wubi installs and configures it
[13:55] <erUSUL> !wubi
[13:55] <illmortal> take your time ziroday
[13:55] <Defience> erUSUL: I'll try that support page, thanks
[13:56] <zgmf-x20a> can someone please help me out with remote desktop?  thanks!
[13:56] <Defience> :/   that just takes me to ubuntuforums.org and I've tried there already
[13:56] <Jeruvy> Defience: what is drive F:  primary, extended, etc.?
[13:56] <Akio> Hey guys
[13:56] <Ajit> I don't see .bash_profile in my ~ so should I create new one?
[13:56] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: are you trying to do it from outside your lan?
[13:57] <ziroday> illmortal: okay, first thing you need to try is the broadcom drivers. Install the b43-fwcutter package, sudo rmmod ndiswrapper and then sudo modprobe bcm43xx. If that doesn't work you need to follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177 (you might want to print it out or something). Any questions?
[13:57] <Akio> I was just wonder ing how I can reduce the size of my icons, can you guys help me?
[13:57] <ziroday> Ajit: what do you want to put in it?
[13:57] <Ajit> function
[13:57] <Defience> Jeruvy: I use Vista and split my C: drive in 2 and named the other F: then formatted it and put wubi there. It installed fine but when booting I get an Error 1: message
[13:57] <ziroday> illmortal: the b43-fwcutter package _should_ be on the livecd, any questions?
[13:58] <illmortal> do I need to download b43-fwcutter?
[13:58] <illmortal> ok im copying this down
[13:58] <ziroday> illmortal: good idea, sorry it can't be easier :)
[13:58] <Juje007> Can somone help with a HD problem?
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: yes, from outside, over the net.  trying to setup my main pc, ubuntu 8.10, right now, to connect tomorrow
[13:58] <Juje007> someone*
[13:58] <Jeruvy> Defience: verify that happened, wubi usually creates a virtual drive on an existing partition...thats probably why you have a grub 1 error
[13:58] <ziroday> aitvara: can I see your new sources.list please
[13:59] <alice|wl> hello, since installing ( some month ago ) my cron doesnt seem to work. I can see it in ps but none of the scripts or commands get executed
[13:59] <alice|wl> any idea where to look?
[13:59] <Ajit> ziroday: .bash_profile and .bashrc files default created when we install ubuntu or do I need to create just after installation
[13:59] <illmortal> not your fault ziroday :P
[13:59] <mercutio22> Hello. Where is the thrash folder located in intrepid ibex?
[13:59] <ziroday> alice|wl: do crontab -l to see your schedules job
[13:59] <aitvara> ziroday ok i'll paste again , my sources.list file has 261 lines , is it common ?
[13:59] <Defience> Jeruvy: It's definitely on the F: drive. Do you think I should uninstall it from there and move it to the C: drive?
[13:59] <ziroday> alice|wl: err scheduled jobs :)
[13:59] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: ok.. in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop you can set your options.. then if you're behind a router you'll need to forward the correct port to your machine.. I think it's 5900 but you should verify that..
[14:00] <ziroday> Ajit: .bashrc is created by default. I'm not sure what .bash_profile does
[14:00] <alice|wl> and if the color of ubuntuforums is supposed to be an aprils fool thats realy bad taste :P
[14:00] <alice|wl> ziroday: no crontab for root
[14:00] <ziroday> aitvara: not really
[14:00] <macman_> hey all .. i need to compress 177gigs to about 154gigs .. is this possible ?
[14:00] <jastonas> what will you compress?
[14:00] <ziroday> alice|wl: yes, its an april fool. Thats your problem, your cron setup has got reset
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: have you tried sudo apt-get -f install
[14:01] <alice|wl> ziroday: I never used the crontab command. what I do is place scripts in cron.daily or edit files in cron.d
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> goldenx: just had a quick meeting
[14:01] <aitvara> ziroday http://rafb.net/p/rtIMCM67.html
[14:01] <Jeruvy> Defience: I cannot see what difference it would make, but make sure the boot loader is looking in F: and not some other drive.  Grub is Telling you it cannot find the disk
[14:01] <scunizi> ziroday: weird.. I don't see any difference on the forums..
[14:01] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: ok, i have done that, doesnt quite help me out though.  kinda looking for help in setting everything up here
[14:01] <ziroday> alice|wl: hmm, in that case I'm not so sure sorry
[14:01] <ziroday> scunizi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[14:02] <ziroday> aitvara: your perl script seriously failed.
[14:02] <aitvara> ziroday yeah seems that he did add many things
[14:02] <zaggynl> Good lord, that is very bright pink.
[14:02] <scunizi> ziroday: I think that link was for a different nick.. I'm not working with broadcom stuff.
[14:03] <aitvara> well I had a backup of the old sources.list , before run perl script
[14:03] <Defience> Jeruvy: I can get to Grub. Should I edit this line: (not exact) --set -root-ignore_floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz
[14:03] <ziroday> scunizi: the link should be pin
[14:03] <aitvara> but still was wrong , however
[14:03] <ziroday> scunizi: pink
[14:03] <Defience> Jeruvy: should it point elsewhere?
[14:03] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: If by "here" you mean the machine that you want to get into from outside.. then yes.. that's how you set it up..
[14:03] <ziroday> aitvara: well can you _manually_ change all the "edgy" to "intrepid"
[14:03] <aitvara> ok
[14:04] <scunizi> ziroday: AH!  yes.. I noticed that right off.. it's early here and I didn't catch that you were showing the 4/1 coloring.. :)  thanks.
[14:04] <mercutio22> where is thrash folder? "whereis" reveals /usr/bin/thrash, but that aiin't no directory
[14:04] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: ummmm as i understand it, in order to be able to accomplish this i have to use dynDNS and stuff or something.  like, how exactly would i connect to it from outside?
[14:04] <Defience> Jeruvy: also, when I tried to make it /boot/grub/menu.lst I get Error 15: filename not found
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !trash
[14:04] <ziroday> scunizi: heh
[14:05] <Jeruvy> Defience: I can't be certain since I cannot see  the partitions for real.  You need to determine if the boot loader can be fixed, if not I'd just format f: and boot windows, run wubi and install.
[14:05] <mercutio22> ActionParsnip> thanks
[14:05] <aitvara> ziroday done
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> mercutio22: np bro
[14:05] <aitvara> nothing yet , not working
[14:05] <Defience> Jeruvy: Ok, thanks
[14:06] <aitvara> 33 lines
[14:06] <ziroday> aitvara: pastebin your latest /etc/apt/sources.list please
[14:06] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: that's an entirely different question.. dyndns is one way but not totally necessary.. it does help though, if your primary IP is always changing. basically from outside your lan you'd use vnc or rdesktop to connect to your primary IP address..
[14:06] <aitvara> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142053/
[14:07] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: once, say tightvnc, is loaded you'd enter the IP of your home with the port number.. so 72.345.67.2:5900 ... from that point your router will see info coming in on that port and transfer it to your machine using port forwarding.
[14:07] <seutje> k silly question, I logged in my VPS using SSH, logged in root to do some stuff... now how do I log out of root? :x
[14:07] <ziroday> aitvara: and doing sudo apt-get update says what?
[14:08] <ziroday> seutje: exit
[14:08] <seutje> figures :p
[14:08] <space_cadet> rofl @ conficker
[14:08] <ziroday> seutje: and how did you login as root?
[14:08] <seutje> su
[14:08] <seutje> I think
[14:08] <Tvoq-nick|1|> #
[14:08] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: ok, yes.  this is the scenario.  my main pc, is running at home.  ubuntu 8.10.  i need to be able to connect to it, with full access to everything, from work, which i will be running eeebuntu
[14:08] <Tvoq-nick|1|> #bulgaria
[14:08] <ziroday> seutje: you should do sudo -i :)
[14:08] <Tvoq-nick|1|> ARE VLIZAI TE
[14:09] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: dyndns sets things up so you don't have to mess with IP numbers.. just enter the domain name you choose and the port number.. like zgmf-x20a.isa-geek.com:5900 ... by the way isa-geek.com IS one of their domain names.
[14:09] <seutje> ziroday: why is that? hosting company sent me a mail that said use "su" :x
[14:09] <ziroday> Tvoq-nick|1|: is there something we can help you with?
[14:09] <ziroday> seutje: sudo -i is more secure then su, I don't have the exact arguement on me but I'm sure google would find it
[14:09] <aitvara> ziroday http://paste.ubuntu.com/142057/
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> zgmf-x20a: use ssh on the server and you can run all apps remotely and file access
[14:09] <seutje> ziroday: oh... thanks I'll look into it ^^
[14:10] <ziroday> aitvara: and you are certain you are connected to the internet?
[14:10] <aitvara> well su is for change the user , asking in the same time the password , sudo is  for do as superuser
[14:10] <aitvara> yeah i'm
[14:10] <aitvara> no iptables,no firewall at router
[14:10] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: what ActionParsnip says is another method so you don't have to mess with vnc or rdesktop.. it's also more secure. however doing X over ssh requires some patients in the beginning.
[14:10] <alanbshepard70> Anyone know of the existence of a project that will alter speech in real time for skype, recording podcasts and the like?
[14:11] <ziroday> aitvara: okay, replace the sources.list with http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335375&postcount=2 please
[14:11] <aitvara> ok
[14:11] <platius> =1
[14:11] <aitvara> ziroday nothing yet , I just did replace
[14:12] <aitvara> by this ubuntuforums link
[14:12] <ziroday> aitvara: err what? Just move your current sources.list somewhere, and create a new one with the contents of the link I gave you and do sudo apt-get update
[14:12] <ziroday> aitvara: and I doubt you did it in half a minute
[14:13] <aitvara> I did kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[14:13] <aitvara> ok i'll try create a new one
[14:13] <ziroday> aitvara: stop taking shortcuts and just do it properly
[14:13] <Guest94809> elo!
[14:14] <yossarian> peeps, is vista shite?
[14:14] <ziroday> yossarian: ##windows for windows help, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:14] <grawity> yossarian: I quite like Vista... but 7 seems nicer. </offtopic>
[14:14] <Jimi_Neutral> hey guys
[14:15] <emendo> I am having difficulty installing freemind in ubuntu 8.10. I believe I have all the latest updates and I have installed it previously. However, I reinstalled from another distro and now I get this error from synaptic "Depends: simplyhtml  but it is not installable" Any ideas?
[14:15] <aitvara> ziroday still is getting error
[14:15] <aitvara> the same of before
[14:15] <Jimi_Neutral> i got clonezilla working but the image it took was only 56KB, that cant be right can it
[14:15] <ziroday> aitvara: what does ping google.com output?
[14:15] <yossarian> i dunno...
[14:15] <aitvara> everything okays , is the same computer that i'm talking to you now in Xchat
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> !info simplyhtml
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !find simply
[14:16] <ziroday> aitvara: that is impossible, its just using http to get the sources.list
[14:16] <aitvara> is weird
[14:16] <aitvara> want to see printscreen ?
[14:16] <emendo> ActionParsnip: What does all of this mean from ubottu?
[14:16] <ziroday> aitvara: heh, sure
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !info emendo jaunty
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> !info simplyhtml jaunty
[14:17] <scunizi> emendo: some others to look at are VYM and kdissert.  or check out freemind on sourceforge, they might have a .deb.. also www.getdeb.net might have it.
[14:17] <aitvara> ok wait
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> emendo: its a jaunty only app
[14:17] <reduz> Question! Is there any channel for asking questions about jaunty beta?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | reduz
[14:17] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: they've finally included it? that's nice
[14:17] <ziroday> reduz: yes! #ubuntu+1
[14:17] <yggdrasil> hello i have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and im having serious xorg nvidia issues can somone help me ?
[14:17] <reduz> cool
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: included what?
[14:17] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: oh you bet me :(
[14:18] <scunizi> ActionParsnip: freemind as you mentioned to emendo
[14:18] <ziroday> yggdrasil: what are these issues
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: fingers of lightning
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: oic
[14:18] <ottertoast> whats up guys
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> emendo: you will need to install jaunty beta to get the app
[14:18] <yggdrasil> when the screen goes blank either from sending go blank by close lid or on resume. it goes white then slowly fades out to a    red / odd color.
[14:18] <yggdrasil> its documented.
[14:19] <aitvara> ziroday http://www.uploadimagens.com/upload/d6bca6e38e30e3606c4e399306e4683c.png
[14:19] <emendo> actionparsnip: So I will have to waite. Alright fine with me it is not too long away. Thank you for your help.
[14:19] <emendo> "wait" oops.
[14:19] <aitvara> and here too , link 2 http://www.uploadimagens.com/upload/44d78af2e4b10f738b64c83753f82170.png
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> emendo: np, you can install the beta now if its pressing
[14:20] <ziroday> aitvara: can you visit archive.ubuntu.com in your browser?
[14:20] <scunizi> emendo: are you stuck for some reason using freemind?  Have you ever looked at VYM?
[14:20] <simard> since yesterday X has been crashing for no apparent reason and now it's doing that more and more frequently.. all I can get from the log is a backtrace and a Fatal server error:Caught signal 11.  Server aborting, any idea what the problem may be ?
[14:20] <Maddicted> i can not find advance desktop to xubuntu in synaptics
[14:20] <Maddicted> can someone help me out?
[14:20] <aitvara> yeah I can
[14:20] <aitvara> [DIR]	ubuntu/	01-Apr-2009 13:57 	 - 	
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> simard: read your xlogs and dmesg output for clues
[14:20] <emendo> scunizi: I have but I find freemind has many more features.
[14:20] <scunizi> Maddicted: you want to install xubuntu on top of ubuntu?
[14:21] <ziroday> aitvara: hmm, can you do sudo apt-get install hello for me, does that work?
[14:21] <scunizi> emendo: k.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> wassup Maddicted
[14:21] <syadow> how 2 play .swf file?
[14:21] <Maddicted> scunizi, i have installed xubuntu with wubi, and i cant find advance desktop
[14:21] <scunizi> Maddicted: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:21] <ziroday> syadow: install flash
[14:21] <aitvara> Reading state information...Done
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !info swfplayer | syadow
[14:21] <aitvara> E: couldn't find hello
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !info swfplayer
[14:21] <space_cadet> anyone know where to download the conficker, im gonna infect my vm
[14:22] <syadow> ubottu,  then?
[14:22] <scunizi> Maddicted: I'm not sure what advance desktop is in wubi.. never heard of it in the standard install either.
[14:22] <Maddicted> i'm sorry i have already xubuntu, i just want the compiz
[14:22] <ziroday> aitvara: well then, I have no idea. Sorry
[14:22] <scunizi> Maddicted: AH .. I don't think you can run compiz in wubi
[14:22] <aitvara> neither do I
[14:22] <aitvara> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[14:22] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: mmmm its ok, ill try the dyndns way, ok, so i created an account, and so i have to make a domain name, or a host service??
[14:22] <Maddicted> wubi is just a installer?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !info klash
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !info gnash
[14:23] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: domain name.. that points to your current real IP address
[14:23] <presshere> hi i am searching for a program to create web pages on linux, any recomandation?
[14:24] <space_cadet> gedit?
[14:24] <DJones> !kompozer | presshere
[14:24] <presshere> :)
[14:24] <grawity> I'd recommend Gedit, but then I am officially insane because my site is compatible with NCSA Mosaic :)
[14:24] <presshere> DJones tx
[14:24] <syadow> ubottu, k thx ....its work
[14:24] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: ok, so register a new domain address correct?
[14:24] <scunizi> Maddicted: wubi is a method of installing ubuntu on a windows machine like any other windows program.. however there is a layer that sets up the video that uses generic drivers.. you're essentially creating a virtual machine with wubi..
[14:24] <zgmf-x20a> i can justv write anything?
[14:25] <dimebar> presshere: you may want to look at bluefish too
[14:25] <presshere> dimebar tx i will try
[14:25] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: I think so yes.. you create the first part of the address and choose a domain name from their list..
[14:25] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: yep.. you can use your nick if you want
[14:27] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: to do the choosing thing though, its under host services, not domain services
[14:27] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: there's also something in your router that you may need to setup for dyndns.. a section specifically for it.
[14:27] <space_cadet> and in your router.
[14:27] <space_cadet> disable upnp
[14:27] <space_cadet> it is the worst hole you could ever have
[14:28] <danbhfive> has anyone tried to boot from a usb drive, and it just gives you a screen with a "'boot: " prompt?  What is that?  Is that busybox or something?
[14:28] <space_cadet> yep
[14:28] <space_cadet> no
[14:28] <space_cadet> press enter
[14:28] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: last time I did this with dyndns it was really confusing.. their site isn't the most intuitive.. you don't want them hosting anything so I think domain services.. if you get to a point where they want money you've gone the wrong direction.
[14:28] <space_cadet> I had that with damn vulnerable linux
[14:28] <space_cadet> it would hang at the screen until you pressed enter
[14:30] <robertj> mail autopilot is awesome
[14:30] <robertj> gmail
[14:30] <Photoguy> How can I view a virtual disk (.disk) file in Windows, I need to recover some files.
[14:30] <alice|wl> ok, somehowldap destroyed something in my system. cron doesnt work anymore and I have errors about pam and smb in /var/log/auth.log  http://pastebin.com/m1a373c8a
[14:31] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: ok, i created an account under host services, and it was free.  what should i do now??
[14:31] <scunizi> Photoguy: what ever program it was created with you'll need to install that program and access it that way.. if it was a virtual disk created by a vm program that is.
[14:31] <grey08> helloo
[14:31]  * grawity greets grey08.
[14:32] <nutzer> hm
[14:32] <grey08> i still can not activate my nvidia driver
[14:32] <nutzer> help?
[14:32] <Photoguy> scunizi: Actually it was from a Ubuntu under windows install..
[14:32] <nutzer> hm
[14:33] <scunizi> zgmf-x20a: sorry but I can't give you a blow by blow on the setup inside of dyndns. it's just been too long and I can't remember the specifics of where to go and what to do other than to say get dyndns to point to your IP address. then setup your router to forward to your machine.. there should be instructions on dyndns
[14:33] <nutzer> where do you come from?
[14:34] <macman_> can somone give me an example of using lzma to compress a folder ?
[14:34] <scunizi> Photoguy: ah. that would be a wubi install file.. sorry I know next to nothing about how wubi works. you might have to do the wubi install again fresh and afterwards just swap the file that is created for the one you need access to.
[14:34] <heyhey> is it just me , or do limits.conf do fucko ?
[14:35] <Photoguy> scunizi: you think it's safe to do? I need some file..
[14:35] <scunizi> Photoguy: like I said. I don't know much about wubi but it seems a safe bet.. maybe someone else will pipe up and give different advice.
[14:36] <Photoguy> scunizi: Thanks
[14:36] <Jimi_Neutral> i have managed to pull an image off a windows laptop to clone more laptops later using clonezilla on this ubuntu server box......unfortunatley the image was about 56KB in size so i am guessing something went wrong somewhere.....any ideas?
[14:36] <matamou> has anybody had the problem with Virtualbox when installing WinXP, Cannot find NTDLR? if yes: how did you solve that problem? :s
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: you could use dd to create the image, then dd to put it onto the other systems
[14:37] <zgmf-x20a> scunizi: hmmm ok, ill try to find some, but last time i checked there isnt any.
[14:37] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[14:37] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: you would be correct.. something went wrong.. is this an image of windows? or an ubuntu install?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> matamou: boot to xp cd and reinstall the boot sector, the guys in ##windows will advise well
[14:37] <grey08> hello, i need help, i m using geforce 4 mx 440 with agp8x graphic card, but the resolution is 800x600, is there anyway to adust to higher resolution??
[14:37] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Its an image of windows
[14:38] <grey08> i have checked the hardware driver, its not activated
[14:38] <tryggvib> What's the best way to downgrade packages?
[14:38] <Jimi_Neutral> well that is what i am aiming for anyway
[14:38] <zgmf-x20a> has anyone else here succesfully setup REMOTE DESKTOP for use over the net?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> grey08: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:38] <sleepy_cat>  c_nick
[14:38] <matamou> ActionParsnip: thanks, I will ask them. But what do you mean exactly, reinstalling the boot sector?
[14:39] <grey08> thanks
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> matamou: you need to run the fixmbr and fixboot command
[14:39] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: you might consider using "Partimage" to create the image.. also when you use the image and restore it to a machine, if that machine isn't exactly the same then you'll have driver issues with the motherboard, usb, etc.. and will have to re-register it with redmond..
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> grey08: hit ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in, then run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[14:39] <matamou> Well I dont have XP installed in my hdd
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> grey08: i think its the 96 driver you want due to the age of the card
[14:40] <Ienorand> Is there an nice way to view all icons currently installed on the system?
[14:40] <grey08> when should i ctrl alt backspace?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> matamou: you need an XP cd to reinstall the boot sector, its a windows issue though
[14:40] <grey08> i have downloaded from www.nvidia.com
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> grey08: after the 2 commands have completed
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> grey08: use the repo, much easier
[14:40] <grey08> but when i tried to installed it, it needs me to stop using x server
[14:40] <grey08> repo?
[14:41] <saad_> hi all
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> grey08: run the command i gave you
[14:41] <scunizi> grey08: the driver is in synaptic.. you don't need to use the one from nvidia..
[14:41] <notwist> I have just bought a domain, how to I edit my server so that this domain is bound to my server? it's already pointing at my IP
[14:41] <scunizi> grey08: System>Admin>Synaptic package manager.
[14:41] <likuid-silence> hello all.
[14:41] <myk_robinson> i need help writing a small bash script. I have Vuze in a folder, and I want to add a script to /usr/local/bin to allow me to run vuze as an executable from Alt+F2. The executable location is /home/myk/Downloads/Vuze/vuze  and the executable file name is ./vuze
[14:41] <ActionParsnip>  grey08: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:41] <grey08> i have downloaded all the "nvidia"  related field, but when i reboot, it came out " can not found kernel module"
[14:41] <Jimi_Neutral> Scunizi: Well the thing is this image I am taking at the moment is just to see if I have Clonezilla set up right and I am using Clonezilla because it supports multicasting. We will be getting 40 or so identical laptops for our business which will need cloning. So I cant use partimage, unless it now supports multicasting.
[14:42] <grey08> o, i iwill try sudo command first
[14:42] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I don't think it does
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> grey08: you need some extra bits that will be done post install with the command i gave you
[14:42] <grey08> alright
[14:42] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Neither do I, the last thing I read says it does not. So you see I really need to get this working :s
[14:43] <Jimi_Neutral> Clonezilla I mean
[14:43] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I've never used clonezilla but others here have .. hopefully there's someone awake that will guide you.
[14:44] <Ganseki> notwist: Does your server have the same IP as your your domain?
[14:44] <notwist> I mean, when I installed ubuntu I remember that i filled in "domain" which is now used for ex. as default in irssi
[14:44] <notwist> Ganseki: the domain is pointing to the ip, yes, so if i go to the domain i get my web server
[14:44] <alienkid> is there a DMZ-white cursor set for Windows?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !windows | alienkid
[14:46] <notwist> Ganseki: basically when I email for example through mutt it assumes the wrong domain
[14:46] <notwist> Ganseki: it assumes host.myisp.com but i want my domain to be assumed as default instead for the server
[14:47] <Ganseki> notwist: Are you having a static IP on the server or through DHCP?
[14:47] <anooptp> hi
[14:47] <alice|wl> for some reason I have pam_smbpass in some pam configs. I dont need it and want to get rid of it. Can anybody guide me a bit as I m not keen on locking me out or similar.
[14:47] <Ganseki> notwist: Sounds like DHCP through your ISP
[14:47]  * grawity greets anooptp.
[14:47] <anooptp> is there any image viewer which can display psd files other than gimp
[14:47] <alice|wl> maybe I can just deinstall something ...
[14:47] <notwist> Ganseki: I have a static ip from my ISP
[14:48] <Ropechoborra> I installed amarok and the ubuntu-restricted-extras but it doesnt play mp3 files yet. any ideas?
[14:48] <notwist> Ganseki: in that it never changes but I get it via DHCP (dont enter it manually)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: it needs a codec
[14:48] <scunizi> notwist: Ganseki perhaps a line change in muttrc?
[14:48] <Ganseki> notwist: Got ya.
[14:48] <Ropechoborra> ActionParsnip, do you now wich one?
[14:48] <anooptp> Ropechoborra vlc is good
[14:48] <Ropechoborra> know*
[14:48] <grey08> hello, i m back
[14:49] <Ganseki> notwist: I don't use mutt myself
[14:49] <Ropechoborra> anom01y, vlc?
[14:49] <grey08> the nvidia kernel modules can not be found
[14:49] <Ropechoborra> Woops. wrong nick ;$
[14:49] <Photoguy> Yes, VLC is awesome.
[14:49] <mneptok> Ropechoborra: forget VLC
[14:49] <anooptp> vlc player
[14:49] <grey08> why is the driver can not be activated??
[14:49] <scunizi> notwist: are you on cli and wanting to use mutt for email?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[14:49] <mneptok> Ropechoborra: it will play mp3s, yes. but it is not a good mp3 player per se.
[14:49] <Ienorand> Is there any way to view all icons on the ubuntu system, it is really a pain when creating a shortcut and trying to find a good icon...
[14:49] <Jimi_Neutral> Scunizi: ty bud :)
[14:49] <Ropechoborra> Ok, thank you :)
[14:50] <mneptok> Ropechoborra: save yourself some headaches and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[14:50] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: np.. did I actually help?
[14:50] <space_cadet> [OT]  I have an XP vm in ubuntu host, and want to put the conficker on it.
[14:50] <space_cadet> link?
[14:50] <anooptp> is there any image viewer for psd
[14:50] <grey08> is it like atheros wife car
[14:50] <Ubersoldat> lenorad: usually they are on /usr/share/icons or pixmaps
[14:50] <grey08> is it like the atheros wifi card in laptop, which require to make install?
[14:50] <Ropechoborra> mneptok, Ok. :)
[14:51] <Ropechoborra> ActionParsnip, here it say that libxine-extracodecs is old or something like that, and some other is refered. libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:51] <Ropechoborra> is it the same?
[14:51] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Well im no further to sorting it but at least you answered me. Thats adding more to my faith in the Linux flavour comunity and pushing me towards using it at home.
[14:51] <anooptp> can some one help me?
[14:51] <Jimi_Neutral> anooptp: What with?
[14:52] <anooptp> image viewer
[14:52] <notwist> scunizi: im just wondering generally if i can change some setting so that my server knows that domain.com is pointing to it's ip so that's the default to use for everything basically
[14:52] <anooptp> which can take psd file
[14:52] <notwist> scunizi: so irssi automatically uses me@mydomain.com etc.
[14:52] <anooptp> other than gimp
[14:52] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I know what it's like. Been running linux now 3 years and coming here to help and get help.. sometimes it's hit and miss.
[14:52] <ginbuntu>  !kde4
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: get that instead
[14:52] <Jimi_Neutral> anooptp: the best way to ask is just to ask the question right out and wait for someone to answer bud
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:52] <miklcct> !kde
[14:52] <Ropechoborra> ActionParsnip,  Already have it
[14:52] <VSpike> Does anyone remember a trick for copying files in a ssh session between client and server without dropping out of the session and using sftp? I'm sure I read it on planet ubuntu at some point
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: hmm
[14:52] <anooptp> Jimi_Neutra ok
[14:53] <grey08> helloo, i need help on my nvidia driver
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: sudo apt install gstreamer0.8-mad
[14:53] <ginbuntu> how do I install kde 4.2.1 on Ubuntu 8.10?
[14:53] <Ganseki> grey08: What is the problem with your driver?
[14:53] <Ropechoborra> ActionParsnip, not found
[14:53] <grey08> i hve no idea
[14:53] <Ubersoldat> ginbuntu: you'll need to download the sources and compile
[14:54] <grey08> my resolutio i sonly 800x 600
[14:54] <Jimi_Neutral> I get the feeling there are a lot of people moving from windows  to linux. Purley because the amount of people that I have seen in here just since I have been coming here in the last 2 days asking about Nvidia Drivers.
[14:54] <ginbuntu> Ubersoldat, I don't mind compiling, any tutorial?
[14:54] <grey08> my resolution is only 800x600
[14:54] <scunizi> notwist: let me see if I understand correctly.  You have a server at home and bought a domain name that you want to attach to it.. it's currently pointed at your IP but you need Apache to recognize the IP? not sure how irssi comes into this unless there's info you're leaving out.
[14:54] <Ubersoldat> not that I know of, try on kde's site... It'll take a while thought
[14:54] <zgmf-x20a> has anyone successfully setup REMOTE DESKTOP over the net??? if so, please help! :)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:55] <Ropechoborra> ActionParsnip, it seems it works with kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:55] <Ropechoborra> Now its working :)
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> sunizi: Thing is I am first and foremost a gamer and we all know what Linux is like for games. I know you can use that Wine thing but I dont think I am ready to make the change just yet. Would like to know more about it first.
[14:55] <Ubersoldat> zgmf: what's so hard about that?
[14:55] <Ropechoborra> Thanks
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: sweet
[14:55] <anooptp> how to view psd fiile in ubuntu?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Ropechoborra: np man
[14:55] <grey08> hmmmm
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: gimp maybe?
[14:55] <Ganseki> grey08: Please use a nickname when reply. Easier to keep track
[14:55] <thom__> hello all
[14:56] <VSpike> ginbuntu: maybe http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-KDE-4-2-on-Ubuntu-8-10-106118.shtml
[14:56] <Ubersoldat> anootp: there's no viewer (besides Gimp) to open PSD
[14:56] <melkart> does anybody have an idea how to interest some developer into fixing this annoying, many years old bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-applets/+bug/22304
[14:56] <grey08> nickname???
[14:56] <a_n_d_r_e_w> anooptp, gimp
[14:56] <Ganseki> grey08: You want to install the official nVidia driver?
[14:56] <LjL> !tab | grey08
[14:56] <Jimi_Neutral> or photoshop ;)
[14:56] <a_n_d_r_e_w> anooptp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285217
[14:56] <LjL> grey08: grey08 is your nickname
[14:56] <melkart> i reported this bug myself half a year ago to gnome, not knowing about this duplicate... no response
[14:56] <Ubersoldat> LjL: not in Opera... stupid tab doesn't work
[14:56] <Ganseki> grey08: See how I start with grey08 every sentence, if you start with Ganseki I know you are talking to me
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: or open office
[14:56] <LjL> Ubersoldat: well, it works in most sane clients
[14:57] <grey08> i just wan to make my resolution higher-----grey08
[14:57] <Ubersoldat> LjL: just kidding :)
[14:57] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I dual boot.. there are just some things I have to do on windows that I can't on linux.. games is one.. some work stuff is another..
[14:57] <anooptp> ActionParsnip ya , but it only take one pic i want to see continuous once like irfanviewer
[14:57] <grey08> [ganseki] ok
[14:57] <macman_> whats the best compression method  bzip2 tar zip 7z lzma ?
[14:57] <LjL> grey08: err, you need to mention the nickname of the person *which you are talking to*
[14:57] <Ubersoldat> macman_: tar doesn't compress
[14:57] <grey08> LjL ok
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: does irfanview have a linux port?
[14:58] <Ganseki> grey08: I have a blog entry on compiling mplayer with vdpau but it also explains installing the official nVidia driver.
[14:58] <Ubersoldat> macman_: maybe you're refering to gzip
[14:58] <anooptp> no only by wine . i searching for linux soft.
[14:58] <grey08> Ganseki: i just wnt to make my resolution better
[14:58] <Ganseki> grey08: Well with the official driver it should work
[14:58] <grey08> i
[14:58] <anooptp> ActionParsnip it is win progaram
[14:58] <Ubersoldat> macman_: I remember reading somewhere that 7Zip offered the best compression faster. But, gzip is the defacto on every system
[14:58] <alice|wl> Apr  1 13:55:01 hqv2 CRON[30291]: pam_unix(cron:account): account root has expired (account expired)
[14:58] <grey08> Ganseki: i have no idea why i can not activate the driver itself at hardware driver
[14:59] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Yeah I could dual boot I guess but I really cant be bothered. I would love to just use Linux believe me. Even just looking at it and chatting in here it just feels more raw, more real if you like. I suppose I could because the only games i play I know work in Linux but I bet there will be one that coems out that I really want to play but then cant!
[14:59] <alice|wl> why is my root account expired? I can still sudo -i
[14:59] <Omar87> Where can I find the latest version of Brasero? (brasero growisofs)
[14:59] <Ganseki> grey08: I just install the official driver. Never failed me
[14:59] <alice|wl> and how can I fix that? seems to stop cron from working
[14:59] <Ubersoldat> alice|wl: that's for PAM
[14:59] <Ubersoldat> alice|wl: you'll find plenty of help on that on google
[14:59] <alice|wl> Ubersoldat: I get this errors for cron and cron doesnt execute any of the commands in cron.d
[14:59] <Ganseki> Am I allowed to post URLs here?
[15:00] <grey08> Ganseki: is there anyway to remove all the nvidia driver and re install aain?
[15:00] <alice|wl> like sudo chage -I 40 or sudo chage -E-1 root but there is no doku about that
[15:00] <thom__> hello all, I want to connect to dal net network. Can I? How?
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> Is there anyone awake here that knows a nice amount about Clonezilla?
[15:00] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: there's a host of games available for linux that are fun.. eventually you forget about the ones that only work on windows.. besides once you make the change there are so many projects/exploration that you'll want to do with your new system that games will get pushed to the background..
[15:00] <Ganseki> grey08: By installing the official driver that will happen
[15:00] <Linuturk> Microsoft bought Ubuntu Linux! ;p
[15:01] <Photoguy> -_-
[15:01] <grey08> Ganseki: nothing happen when i tried "activate" the driver
[15:01] <grawity> Linuturk: And that once again proves that Micros~1 is stupid, as Ubuntu is free
[15:01] <Omar87> Where can I find the latest version of Brasero? (brasero growisofs)
[15:02] <anooptp> ActionParsnip r u ter/
[15:02] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Ah yes I have seen there are a lot. As far as what you say about projects and exploration....I have never been a coder, I cant even program C or Visual Basic. I can do HTML and CSS but thats about it!
[15:02] <Ganseki> grey08: Go to http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2009/02/10/compile-mplayer-with-vdpau-support-on-ubuntu/ and you only have to follow the directions Let's start up to compiling mplayer
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> !info brasero
[15:02] <scunizi> Ganseki: that's not true.. by installing the official driver from nvidia it will not remove all the nvidia stuff that ubuntu puts in.. you have to remove it using synaptic first before installing the nvidia downloaded driver otherwise you risk borking your system .. <--- grey08
[15:02] <grey08> Ganseki: alright, thanks
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: sup
[15:03] <grey08> scunizi: ok.....
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Omar87: you can get it from here if you want to compile http://projects.gnome.org/brasero/#download
[15:03] <anooptp> ActionParsnip ok
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: irfanview doesnt play nice with wine
[15:04] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I don't code either.. it's getting your machine to also be a web server, setting up an FTP server, streaming music/video to other machines in the house.. learning to live at the command line using mutt for email, irssi for IRC, elinks for web browsing etc.. there's lots to do without knowing how to code.. it's a whole different world..
[15:04] <grey08> scunizi: after i remove all the nvidia driver and reboot, am i able to "see" ?/
[15:04] <notwist> scunizi: i msged you if thats ok
[15:04] <anooptp> ya, so i search for alternative
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: im not sure ow to tackle this, the format is proprietary garbage which makes it hard to support in linux
[15:04] <notwist> brb
[15:04] <scunizi> grey08: yes.. disable the hardware driver first and restart the gui.. that will put the generic driver back in action.
[15:04] <anooptp> ActionParsnip y,
[15:05] <scunizi> notwist: I'm on irssi so I didn't catch that you pm'd me.. I'll look
[15:05] <happygrue> hello.  That live CD is pretty nice!  I am hoping to switch over from Win XP in the near future, and that really is a nice demo.
[15:05] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Well even command line scares me. I am using ubuntu with GUI
[15:05] <anooptp> is any other one like that in linux
[15:05] <grey08> scunizi: in that case, it will automatically download the driver?
[15:05] <happygrue> however:  My speakers didn't like it very much.
[15:05] <happygrue> is there much testing/driver stuff I can do from the demo?
[15:06] <anooptp> ActionParsnip i try gqview it is not supporting psd
[15:06] <ynk> i have a sort of a silly problem. i've been trying to install my ati drivers for the past few days now and finally found the right drivers. while installing, the gui box extends beyond the bottom of my screen and thus i cannot click "continue" as the manual instructs. i'm stuck in 800x600 until i can install my driver.. but i can't because the box extends beyond my display. any suggestions?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: because its adobe being annoying and keeping their stuff close to their chest (like flash)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: the only real people who know about the data layout in psd is adobe and they suck
[15:06] <scunizi> grey08: if you haven't tried the driver in System>Admin>Hardware drivers then try that first. otherwise installing the driver from nivdia follow thier instructions
[15:07] <anooptp> ActionParsnip yes
[15:07] <scunizi> notwist: you here?
[15:07] <anooptp> ActionParsnip like pagemaker file too
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: anything adobe make, except pdf
[15:07] <grey08> scunizi: i have tried that, once i reboot, i will get error msg ---can not load nvidia kernel module
[15:08] <Omar87> ActionParsnip: I coudn't install it.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> grey08: what is the output of: dkms status
[15:09] <anooptp> ActionParsnip gimp is supporting so i thought there may be one
[15:09] <grey08> ActionParsnip: nvidia, 96.43.09: added
[15:09] <ynk> is there a way to force a window to resize?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> grey08: what video card is it again please
[15:10] <anooptp> ActionParsnip ok see you bey
[15:10] <grey08> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[15:10] <anooptp> bey to all :)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> anooptp: i cant advise any further, personally
[15:10] <anooptp> how
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> grey08: ok
[15:10] <Omar87> ActionParsnip: I tried configure, and it worked, but when I trie "make", it said: "No terget specified"
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> !compile | Omar87
[15:11] <emretemp> hi all, I want to run my tomcat web application server with a non-root user (named as tomcat), at the command prompt I can do it typing "su - tomcat /opt/tomcat/bin/start.sh"  everything is cool with this unless I mark tomcat user with "nologin" option at /etc/password file. well what  I want is to run tomcat with a non-root user, and I also dont want that user to be able to login with a ssh from outside. any solutions to this?
[15:11] <anooptp> it ok
[15:11] <anooptp> see you
[15:11] <nicklas_> anyone using tor or vpn? which one is best at hiding identity?
[15:11] <grey08> so..... i should remove all the graphic driver now?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> grey08: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:12] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> grey08: well it doesnt work so i'd say yes
[15:12] <scunizi> emretemp: if you don't get an answer here try #ubuntu-server or ##linux
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> my command will remove the 96 driver and install the 71 driver, lets see if that works
[15:12] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> grey08: once installed, ctrl+alt+backspace and login
[15:13] <nETspideR> hello
[15:13] <Jimi_Neutral> sunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?
[15:13] <grey08> ActionParsnip: which part do i need to ctrl ?
[15:13] <kibil_> hy
[15:14] <margaret> ok I am using a laptop with high def intel (HDA) audio all is fine, but everytime I shut the computer down and login pcm is at zero, if I run alsamixer and alsaconf will this fix it? or does it just fix it for alsa and not oss, what PCM a part of?
[15:14] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: would it be ok to talk to you in a private channel?
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: glx-71/
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> grey08: let the whole bunch of commands run
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: ok...i will try now
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> grey08: when it is done, hit the ctrl+alt+backspace
[15:14] <grey08> ActionParsnip: oook
[15:15] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: sure
[15:15] <UChiha> hy
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> grey08: its gonna remove all the old nvidia stuff that doesnt work and install the 71 driver which will hopefully work nice
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split, its 3pm and ive not eatern
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> gl grey08
[15:16] <Guest17557> hi all, I have this problem error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any help please ?
[15:16] <yy> 大家好呀
[15:16] <dead_> hello all
[15:16] <dead_> hallp
[15:16] <dead_> hello
[15:17] <grey08> can use chinese here?
[15:17] <epaphus> hey guys, what cd burning software does ubuntu come with.. and where is located??
[15:18] <zamba> i'm running ubuntu dapper (don't ask) and i need to get a newer version of rdiff-backup.. how can i do this?
[15:18] <storbeck> !cn > grey08
[15:18] <Ropechoborra> !chinese | grey08
[15:18] <headl_> @ epaphus , i think brasero
[15:19] <casa> hello
[15:19] <grey08> 好呀 yy
[15:19] <yy> 我英文不好，能用中文吗
[15:21] <vincent__> yy: you can join #ubuntu-cn
[15:23] <yy> ubuntu 台式机到底用那种内核较好
[15:23] <cumulus007> What the hell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543800
[15:23] <storbeck> Did freenode have a netsplit?
[15:23] <vincent__> yy:   "/join #ubuntu-cn" pls
[15:23] <grey08> ActionParsnip: Error! Could not locate nvidia.ko for module nvidia in the DKMS tree.
[15:23] <grey08> You must run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.27-11-server (i686) first.
[15:23] <grey08> Done.
[15:24] <coffee1> where is sendmail installed on ubuntu intrepid?
[15:24] <margaret> anyone know
[15:25] <eressolar> coffee1: whereis sendmail
[15:25] <coffee1> eressolar: i get just "sendmail: " in the terminal.  is exim4 better?
[15:26] <grey08> ActionParsnip:  http://pastebin.com/m9b7f0
[15:29] <doglinoxyz> hello I enabled orca to run when I login , how I do to disable??
[15:29] <cpbtklogic> did you look in Adminstration > Users
[15:31] <master> #urbanterror
[15:33] <lakeoftea> riots in london @ g20 summit lol.  i bet they use windows
[15:33] <ks3> Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu working on the HP TouchSmart PCs? I can't get the touchscreen to work.
[15:33] <shadeslayer> hi guys, im in some major trouble,my windows partition is not seen by nautilus,i was trying out opensuse and started out to install it,but thought better of it and left it as it was quite complex
[15:33] <grey08> hello
[15:34] <genii> Every g(#) summit seems to have riots. Even when it was only 7 countries
[15:34] <shadeslayer> please help me get my partition back
[15:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: thats not an ubuntu issue
[15:34] <grey08> i guess its my monitor's proble then
[15:34] <ccooke> That's off
[15:34] <ccooke> odd
[15:34] <ccooke> I thought the installer was able to resize partitions
[15:34] <lakeoftea> shadeslayer : can you still boot to windows?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> ikonia: uh i have all my files there,i dont even use windows now
[15:34] <shadeslayer> lakeoftea: no
[15:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: thats still not an ubuntu issue
[15:35] <ikonia> shadeslayer: please don't ask in here
[15:35] <grey08> is there any command i can check if the graphic card is fully perfomance?
[15:35] <ccooke> has that capability been removed? It's not offering it on the guided install, nor am I able to when I go for manual install
[15:35] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ill leave the question
[15:36] <nicklas_> nobody can recommend tor or vpn? for hiding identity online?
[15:36] <assistencia> ALGUEL DO BRASIL AI
[15:36] <assistencia> OPS ALGUEM
[15:36] <Flannel> !br | assistencia
[15:37] <grey08> sudo nvidia-xconfig command not found...
[15:37] <LjL> !recover | shadeslayer
[15:38] <shadeslayer> LjL: thanks,ill see that
[15:38] <grey08> help
[15:38] <LjL> shadeslayer: have you tried mounting the partition manually with the "mount" command?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> LjL: of course
[15:38] <shadeslayer> /dev/sda5           38587       38914     2620416   dd  Unknown
[15:39] <grey08> HELP
[15:39] <coffee1> how do i uninstall sendmail?
[15:39] <grey08> !help
[15:39] <liar_> ..
[15:39] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:39] <ikonia> coffee1: remove the sendmail package with the package maanger
[15:39] <DSpair> G'day all!
[15:39] <grey08> !hello
[15:39] <grey08> hi
[15:39] <coffee1> ikonia: is there a terminal command for that
[15:39] <^D3vil^> yaa yaa thx for the welcome :)
[15:39] <grey08> LjL
[15:40] <ynk> my goodness, this is frustrating..
[15:40] <LjL> shadeslayer: well, i don't *think* mount cares about partition type... but you could still try cfdisk or something to set it as NTFS
[15:40] <ynk> is there any way at all i can resize a window that's not resizable?
[15:40] <grey08> HELPPP
[15:40] <LjL> grey08: please, behave
[15:40] <LjL> !helpme | grey08
[15:40] <shadeslayer> LjL: how do i do that?
[15:40] <grey08> !helpme
[15:41] <macman_> http://pastebin.com/m4b4c92e2 < -- these are the compression methods i tried but they are all the same
[15:41] <archman> ikonia, do you know a way I can make my laptop fan to work a little less? It runs on half a speed almost all of the time. Maybe some fix?
[15:41] <grey08> i was trying on the command..lol
[15:41] <LjL> shadeslayer: i don't remember precisely... let me try (hope i don't mess up my own partitions in the process :)
[15:41] <shadeslayer> LjL: thanks
[15:42] <ikonia> archman: no idea
[15:42] <coffee1> nevermind got sendmail to work, was a cache problem
[15:42] <macman_> grml = directory .. everything else is the compression i tried to use
[15:42] <Digital_Pioneer> Does the Acer Aspire One ship with a modified Ubuntu, or is it the same thing as the ISO I can download from ubuntu.com?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> LjL: any idea how to get in that partition forcefully,i just need to copy my data,i can format the partition after i get my data
[15:42] <dead_> help me please guys
[15:43] <LjL> shadeslayer: alright, so it's: "sudo cfdisk", then select the partition (up/down arrows), then select "Typ" (right arrow), then type 07 for NTFS (if it's NTFS, it is, right?)
[15:43] <shadeslayer> dead_: state your problem
[15:43] <storbeck> Digital_Pioneer: It's probably pre-configured with all the drivers you need
[15:43] <ikonia> davenpro: ask a question then
[15:43] <ikonia> oops
[15:43] <a_n_d_r_e_w> dead_, ?
[15:43] <ikonia> davenpro: sorry - typo
[15:43] <arno-t> hi in f-spot i imported some photos and later on deleted them from the drive (not from within f-spot). Is there an easy way to get rid of all the "orphan" thumbnails?
[15:43] <shadeslayer> LjL: yes its NTFS
[15:43] <LjL> shadeslayer: then select "Write", and the "Quit". be careful what you do with cfdisk anyway.
[15:43] <Digital_Pioneer> storbeck: Reasonable, so is there a place I can download one I'm sure has all of those drivers?
[15:43] <simplexio> Digital_Pioneer: attleast in one point you could install it from livecd and then use 3rd party repos to make it really work good
[15:44] <storbeck> Yep, a regular Ubuntu iso can do it
[15:44] <dead_> what is conficker??????
[15:44] <macman_> grml = an iso
[15:44] <shadeslayer> LjL:  FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 3: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder
[15:44] <Digital_Pioneer> dead_: Windows virus.
[15:44] <a_n_d_r_e_w> dead_, a virus
[15:45] <Digital_Pioneer> storbeck: So the regular CD has all the drivers I need?
[15:45] <storbeck> It should, yes
[15:45] <LjL> shadeslayer: ugh. i think you have worse things to worry about than the partition type, then
[15:45] <storbeck> shadeslayer: Have you tried to fsck it?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> LjL: like?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: well, it looks like your partition table is quite messed up in general
[15:46] <shadeslayer> storbeck: on a recovery terminal?
[15:46] <Tokenekie> I have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?
[15:46] <archman> ikonia, by what is a fan controlled?
[15:46] <genii> dead_: Ask about conficker worm in ##windows please, or google it
[15:46] <wamty> hey whats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks
[15:46] <shadeslayer> LjL: should i try fsck?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: did you interrupt the suse install while it was partitioning?
[15:46] <ikonia> archman: power managment
[15:46] <shadeslayer> LjL: yes :(
[15:46] <storbeck> wamty: updatedb
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: i wouldn't recommend that
[15:46] <archman> ikonia, hmm...any ideas where should I look?
[15:46] <LjL> shadeslayer: well that was a *very* foolish thing to do :(
[15:47] <wamty> so?
[15:47] <LjL> shadeslayer: it's likely that you're about to have corrupt data also in *other* partitions. backup your whole HD using "dd" if you have the space somewhere.
[15:47] <shadeslayer> LjL: I know,please tell me how to repair it
[15:47] <wamty> whats the command to "index" ther bin-path after apt-get install so that I can run the app without logging off ? thanks
[15:47] <Excell> I tried to get the gui in fire starter to start @ boot..it says i do not have permissions..i found out how to bypass that..but..now i want it to stop loading gui..i delete it from sessions but it still tries to load.. how to fix?
[15:47] <storbeck> wamty: I just told you.... updatedb
[15:47] <Tokenekie> I have a live USB and I need to update my bluetooth application on the live USB. How do I do that?
[15:47] <LjL> shadeslayer: there's no magic recipe to repair it. you can try using "testdisk" (or another i can't remember now) to reconstruct the correct partition table
[15:47] <shadeslayer> LjL: hmm 320 GB internal HD and only a 2GB ipod with a install fest tommorow
[15:48] <dinu> Hi all
[15:48] <dinu> have a problem
[15:48] <shadeslayer> LjL: can fsck correct it ?
[15:48] <LjL> shadeslayer: NO
[15:48] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: as you would normally do on a not-live system
[15:48] <dinu> how to nstall Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.0.4
[15:48] <AnNahar> i have wubi and ubuntu 8.10
[15:48] <AnNahar> but it has openoffice 2.4:(
[15:48] <AnNahar> how do i update to the new one?
[15:48] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, Try chroot /liveusbfolder and then try using the normal apt.
[15:48] <shadeslayer> LjL: ok so no fsck
[15:49] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ill try that, Ill get back to you
[15:50] <Ropechoborra> Ok :) tell me if it works
[15:50] <LiteShade> Would appreciate help with OO Calc newbie question. Thanks
[15:50] <LjL> shadeslayer: in my opinion, your first line should be 1) full backup 2) try "testdisk" and "gpart", they can "guess" your correct partition table sometimes
[15:50] <UsamaAkkad> AnNahar,
[15:50] <UsamaAkkad> I'm here whats up?
[15:50] <shadeslayer> LjL: where do i back up?? i have no external drives
[15:50] <Lego_Dan> hello everyone, I was wondering if i could as a quesiton
[15:51] <AnNahar> LjL, how do i update to the latest openoffice on ubuntu?
[15:51] <AnNahar> UsamaAkkad, i was saying why i was on irc
[15:51] <storbeck> Lego_Dan: questions aren't allowed in support channels
[15:51] <LjL> shadeslayer: i don't know what to say - using testdisk or gpart without having a backup image might be dangerous
[15:51] <LjL> AnNahar: i don't know
[15:51] <Lego_Dan> i see, i see...
[15:51] <Kesman_> yeah, only answers here
[15:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: Don't ask to ask, just ask. :)
[15:51] <archman> Is there a way to control fan speed, cause I can see some increase in its speed lately...
[15:51] <Lego_Dan> ok, well i try to be polite :P
[15:52] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: NP. What's up?
[15:52] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: When you say /liveusbfolder yoiu mean root right?
[15:52] <sdls> What is the difference between ubuntu server edition and desktop?  Is it just a matter of support?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> LjL: no problems,ill spend the night installing ubuntu+windows+opensuse+dell media direct ;)
[15:52] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, I mean the mounted usb device
[15:52] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: exactly, what do you want to do?
[15:52] <Kesman_> sdls: well the purpose naturally
[15:53] <LjL> archman: well, that might mean there's some dust on it which makes the cpu heat more than it used to
[15:53] <dead_> INDONESIA...INDONESIA
[15:53] <LjL> !id | dead_
[15:53] <Kesman_> sdls: and there's no graphical interface in the server as far as I know
[15:53] <sdls> kseman: ahhhh
[15:53] <Lego_Dan> Um currently I use FreeBSD, but I have a 2400HD that I haven't been able to use... (using crappy onboard intel card) to run my KDE/Compiz. And now I also can't install Openpanel, Openpanel works on Ubuntu though.. So Im just trying to find out if my Radeon will have 3d support (compiz) and im getting mixed answers everywhere I look
[15:53] <shadeslayer> LjL: do i run test disk from a terminal or recovery console?
[15:53] <Kesman_> sdls: there's this button left to your a key that has arrows in it. Use it with nick
[15:53] <Lego_Dan> so I was considering coming over to Ubuntu
[15:53] <Kesman_> nicks
[15:53] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: Im trying to update the bluetooth aplication on my live USB. And hopefully keep it updated for future boot-ups
[15:54] <archman> LjL, I thought about it, yes... thanks! I'll check it out, if it's not to big of a problem on my hp laptop...
[15:54] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, It should work fine on Ubuntu using the Restricted Drivers package.
[15:54] <LjL> shadeslayer: recovery would be best if you actually use it to re-write a partition table, but as long as you're just simulating it, you can do it anywhere
[15:54] <LiteShade> would like to be able to open a document first instead of opening the default (template) the a document, also wish that the document could be placed on the task(?) bar, so that I could click the icon, instead of having to open the OO Calc program.; Thanks
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: then just boot to the Live system and do "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[15:54] <sdls> Kesman: so if I wanted to put Ubuntu in my office place.  I would likely use the desktop edition for all end users, but the servers (eg, a poweredge 1850 hosting our company webserver) would use the server edition?
[15:54] <shadeslayer> ill boot to recovery
[15:54] <DSpair> I have various Radeon cards working on Ubuntu, including my Sun servers.
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: after updating your sources.list and all that
[15:54] <Lego_Dan> so there is 3d support for it :S why doesn't bsd have 3d support for it... and it should out preform my onboard intel card correct
[15:54] <Ubersoldat> you don't need to chroot nowhere
[15:55] <Digital_Pioneer> Lego_Dan: A real card will almost always outperform on-board.
[15:55] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, with chroot you make the folder as it was the root folder. So if you have the USB mounted to /media/usb then do sudo chroot /media/usb and then the update with apt-get
[15:55] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I can't guarantee that, but it certainly does in my experience.
[15:55] <Kesman_> sdls: exactly. The ubuntu desktop and server edition work very well together in a network
[15:55] <sdls> Kesman: I see.
[15:55] <hybr1der> could anyone here help me out fixing mythtranscoder i get an error: 139?
[15:55] <sdls> Kesman_:Thank you
[15:55] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: if he's booting the Live why would he want to chroot to a system he's already rooted at
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I know the frustration though. Moving from one *NIX to another can be a pain.
[15:56] <Lego_Dan> ok cool :) kinda makes me wish I tried Ubuntu before BSD... now im gunna have to learn it all over again :P
[15:56] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: terminal gives me "... /dev/sdb is not a directory"
[15:56] <platypus_> hello, after the recent system updates my desktop effects just stopped working and now cannot be enabled, did anyone else experience this? newest/most patched ubuntu.
[15:56] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, Uhmm i dont know why i supoused he had mounted the usb, not booted it. Sorry
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it
[15:56] <storbeck> Lego_Dan: That's why I haven't switched to BSD yet :) I'm too used to Linux
[15:56] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Just remember: It's not "ps -ef" it's "ps ax".
[15:56] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: does safe-update update all the aps on the LiveUSB? I just want to update the bluetooth
[15:56] <Lego_Dan> ?
[15:57] <Kesman_>  /aw pois
[15:57] <GibbaTehHutt> platypus_, using gfx drivers from the repos, or compiled separately ?
[15:57] <Kesman_> :FF
[15:57] <Lego_Dan> one sec brb
[15:57] <Kesman_> remove space
[15:57] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: I don't know how you can update only a package
[15:57] <platypus_> i compiled mine sep GibbaTehHutt since the repos dont work for my card
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, did you boot from the live usb ? I mean, are you in that ubuntu now?
[15:57] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, i think if you try to install the package it will update it..
[15:57] <GibbaTehHutt> platypus_, every time there are kernel updates you will need to recompile it, pretty straight forward, just as you did before
[15:57] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Yes, I did an fdisk -l and found my usb to be /dev/sdb
[15:58] <platypus_> GibbaTehHutt, interesting
[15:58] <Ubersoldat> hmmm... certainly
[15:58] <Ubersoldat> let me try
[15:59] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: you're right
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, but are you using ubuntu from the LiveUSB or an ubuntu installed in a hard drive?
[15:59] <platypus_> GibbaTehHutt, I'll give that a shot, thanks
[15:59] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ubuntu from live USB
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Damn... i dont know how to say it in english :(
[15:59] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, so then forget chroot :)
[15:59] <Lego_Dan> ok sorry, knock at the door, so I missed that its "something" and not "this" ??
[16:00] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, do the sudo apt-get install (bbloothot package)
[16:00] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "ps" command on BSD style is usually "ps -ef" for detailed process listing. On Linux it's SysV style and so uses "ps ax" for detail process listing.
[16:00] <prince_jammys> DSpair: upside down?
[16:00] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Ah, yes like I was telling Ubersoldat, I want to make sure I update only my bluetooth package and not everything else. I dont have that much space on my flash drive
[16:01] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, Yeap, so put only the bluetooth package in the apt-get install command
[16:01] <Lego_Dan> ah.. i don't know either command :P im still pretty new i use ps auxx for something but don't remember what
[16:01] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Do you know where I can find the name of the bluetooth package?
[16:01] <DSpair> prince_j1mmys, Upside down? Whaddya mean?
[16:02] <dead_> i need ubuntuers from indonesian
[16:02] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: Im trying to look for a search ability like "yum search" does
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, wich program are you using ?
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, there is one: sudo apt-cache search
[16:02] <Lego_Dan> um, will kubuntu install over my xp partion and still let me use my bsd partion
[16:02] <Ropechoborra> It may be usefull
[16:02] <Tokenekie> Ropechoborra: ITs just the bluetooth package that comes with the live CD .iso
[16:02] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, or just simple aptitude search <package>
[16:03] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, It can, but you will have to choose to do a manual partition config during the install.
[16:03] <phaer> Is it possible to just see processes running in a certain chroot?
[16:03] <Lego_Dan> ok, so it has a boot manager similar to bsd?
[16:04] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yes, by default it uses GRUB, but it can also use LILO
[16:04] <Ropechoborra> Tokenekie, there is a package called "Bluetooth" (Bluetooth stack utilities) you may try that one... I'm not sure
[16:04] <kennethreitz> Has  anyone considered mergine Debian and Ubuntu? What does Ubuntu do that goes against Debian's philosophy?
[16:04] <Lego_Dan> LILO is the bsd one correct? does it matter which I use? i do know that if i re-install xp it messes the boot manager up and I can't access bsd anymore
[16:04] <Tokenekie> mbeierl: Ropechoborra: Is there a way to search for the name of the bluetooth package installed on your live USB already? I did a "sudo apt-cache search bluetooth" but, yeah, it gave me alot of results
[16:05] <mbeierl> oh, sorry what is installed already
[16:05] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Not too much. I find that GRUB works in 99%, but sometimes hardware like high end servers work better with LILO
[16:05] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: just check the first column. If you've got an "i" it's installed
[16:05] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, what is installed already is through dpkg -l | grep name
[16:05] <GibbaTehHutt> kennethreitz, ubuntu is based on debian, so not much point really, different philosophies :)
[16:05] <digifor> I am starting to think my brand new acer aspire one hard drive has failed.
[16:06] <Lego_Dan> ah ok, well this ain't no high end server :P so im sure GRUB will be fine, thanks :) i just don't want to mess my bsd if i get kubuntu installed and get lost :P
[16:06] <Lego_Dan> thanks :)
[16:06] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I just got a new Sun server which couldn't use GRUB, but LILO worked out of the box. It turned out to be the fact that the server had UEFI instead of a standard BIOS.
[16:06] <Ropechoborra> Ubersoldat, first column where?
[16:06] <wad> Running compiz under Ubuntu, with the nifty rotating desktop cube. Is there a way to put a different background image on each face of the cube? I've looked all through the options, and I don't see a way...
[16:06] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, No problem.
[16:06] <Ubersoldat> Ropechoborra: on the output of aptitude
[16:06] <lfaraone> How can I grep a file (HTML) for IP addresses? (they may be inside other words, such as foo://192.168.1.1/bar)
[16:06] <Ropechoborra> wad, did you try changing background image of each desktop ?
[16:07] <mbeierl> Tokenekie, example:
[16:07] <mbeierl> dpkg -l | grep blue
[16:07] <mbeierl> ii  bluetooth                                  4.32-0ubuntu3                     Bluetooth support
[16:07] <wad> Ropechoborra, no! Good idea.
[16:07] <DSpair> wad, There is, but it's an additional program.
[16:07] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: I dont think I see the "i"'s but mbeierl's method gave me a really good result. So I think I'll continue from there
[16:07] <Lego_Dan> is bind the default nameserver on ubuntu?
[16:07] <kennethreitz> tokenekie: sudo apt-get install bluez or something along those lines
[16:07] <kennethreitz> it has a z in it.
[16:07] <DSpair> wad, Look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482505
[16:07] <Lego_Dan> like i have bind, apache, php5, mysql, blah blah.. and basically want the exact same setup plus openpanel
[16:07] <Ubersoldat> uh, sorry, it's just that I always use aptitude, not apt
[16:07] <wad> When I change the image on one facet of the cube, it changes all of them.
[16:07]  * wad clicks DSpair's link
[16:07] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yes, BIND 9 is the default in Ubuntu.
[16:07] <Tokenekie> mbeierl: Ubersoldat: Live USB says i have "bluetooth" and "libbluetooth3" installed so I think ill update those
[16:08] <Lego_Dan> sweet so it shouldn't be too hard for me to get it up and running the exact same.. possibly use the exact same *.conf files?
[16:08] <willbeeler> Hey guys!
[16:08] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, You'll probably be a convert the first time you fire up synaptic. The package manager on Ubuntu is AWESOME.
[16:09] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The same conf files will probably work as long as you adjust the paths to suit the new filesystem layout.
[16:09] <ChrizC> Ubuntu's telling me to put in a rewriteable cd into my CD-RW drive, but there's already one in there? Why won't it write?
[16:09] <Lego_Dan> convert? you mean like pull the configs from bsd and put them right into ubunto
[16:09] <willbeeler> Ok, I dont' know if any of you have done much in the way of SSL certificates and Ubuntu server, but I have a question if you have...
[16:09] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, So, in apache.conf, you may have to change the web root path to "/var/www" or things like that.
[16:10] <Ubersoldat> ChrizC:  maybe you need to format it first
[16:10] <Lego_Dan> ah.. cool.
[16:10] <ChrizC> Ubersoldat: the cd, or the drive?
[16:10] <Lego_Dan> i heard that the file system is significantly different
[16:10] <Ubersoldat> the CD... how are you going to format a drive?
[16:10] <ChrizC> Ubersoldat: I really don't know. Anyway, how do I format the CD?
[16:10] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, You might want to look at the Linux Standards Base docs to see where files are typically found on Ubuntu. I know that the Apache configuration files on Ubuntu were weird to me when I switched.
[16:11] <mistereo075> hi
[16:11] <Lego_Dan> there is a find files and folders isn't there?
[16:11] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Ubuntu devides Apache configurations into "include" files for each module and that modules configuration.
[16:11] <Lego_Dan> so i should be ok :) if not google does it all :P
[16:12] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, And IRC covers the rest! :)
[16:12] <willbeeler> Has anyone worked with Installing SSL CA's Certs before?
[16:12] <Lego_Dan> LOL yup, kubuntu download is at 41% so Im sure you guys will be hearing from me some point after that :P
[16:12] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, The "find" command seems to work the same as other *NIX variants I have used in the past. KDE also has a graphical search tool.
[16:12] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: mbeierl: It worked. I did the "dkpg -l | grep bluetooth" to find my installed packaged. Then activated the "universe" repository thru synaptic. Then "sudo apt-get install bluetooth libbluetooth3". It is apparently the most recent version. Thank you.
[16:13] <Lego_Dan> yea i like the kde search feature but its seems a tad slow
[16:13] <Lego_Dan> meh
[16:13] <mbeierl> Tokenekie: you're welcome!  Glad it worked!
[16:13] <Ubersoldat> Tokenekie: good... but you'll lose all of that once you reboot
[16:13] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I think switching from BSD to Ubuntu will be a lot easier than when I tried to get back up to speed on Solaris a couple of months ago. Gawd!! That was horrible.
[16:13] <aaron1> hello
[16:14] <DSpair> Hello aaron1
[16:14] <aaron1> is there a way to make pigeon not close when i click on the X
[16:14] <Lego_Dan> LOL, well i think my pro here is that i haven't learned half the in's and out's of bsd
[16:14] <Tokenekie> Ubersoldat: I created the liveUSB using the System->Administration tools and allocated 1.2 gigs to save system settings so I'm hoping that would allow me to save updated packaged. It currently saves my desktop settings.
[16:14] <aq> helooo
[16:14] <DSpair> aaron1, You can configure pigeon to minimize to the tray on close, but you can't disable the close button complete.
[16:15] <DSpair> s/complete/completely/
[16:15] <aaron1> where do i go to minimize on close?
[16:15] <aaron1> i couldnt find it
[16:15] <DSpair> aaron1, Lemme look at mine and let you know in a sec.
[16:15] <aq> hi
[16:16] <DSpair> aaron1, "Tools->Preferences"
[16:16] <aaron1> yeah?
[16:16] <julio_> Hey guys! Is there one Ubuntu 8.05?
[16:16] <aaron1> where in prefs
[16:16] <DSpair> aaron1, Click on the "Interface" tab and make sure that the box for "Show system tray icon" says "Always".
[16:16] <Ropechoborra> julio_, Nope
[16:16] <aaron1> oh
[16:16] <aaron1> eh
[16:16] <aaron1>  /stupid
[16:17] <Ropechoborra> !version | julio_
[16:17] <kora-chan> hi, im using ubuntu 8.10; if i plug in my usb hard disk (ntfs formatted) it is mounted as read only. how can i make it mount read and write?
[16:17] <DSpair> aaron1, Nah, I'm used to seeing a box which says minimize to system tray myself.
[16:17] <julio_> Ropechoborra, tks :D just checking
[16:17] <aaron1> ok
[16:17] <aaron1> bye
[16:17] <prince_jammys> julio_: the second number in the version refers to the month it was released. the first is the year
[16:18] <Lego_Dan> oh kora brought up another question in BSD i mount my usb with "# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt" is it the same in ubuntu?
[16:18] <babybluesman> Hi everyone. I'm looking for a laptop. PC, Lightweight, Non-Glossy between 500-1000 bones. Similar maybe to a Think Pad. Any suggestions?
[16:18] <Picassotamus> kora-chan: Do you have the ntfs-3g package installed? that would be step 1
[16:18] <Myrtti> Lego_Dan: mount points tend to be in /media, otherwise yes
[16:18] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, No, it will automatically show up as an Icon on your desktop when you plug it in.
[16:19] <ZarroBoogs> babybluesman: Try asking in ##hardware
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> even though its msdosfs?
[16:19] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, To unmount, you just right-click and select "Unmount"
[16:19] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: i can mount it using the mount -t ntfs-3g command
[16:19] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Yup.
[16:19] <babybluesman> Ok, thanks
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> thats slick... they need to add that to bsd
[16:19] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: ill check if its installed mom
[16:19] <Lego_Dan> sorry all the talk of bsd.. but its all i know at this point :( that will soon change :P
[16:20] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: yap its there
[16:20] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Linux has a service called "UDEV" which monitors the kernel for new hardware events. It then passes that information on to "DBUS" which allows for automatic actions to be implemented for all sorts of hardware events.
[16:20] <natsukashi_> Is it hard to install Debian?
[16:21] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I have a USB TV tuner, and when I plug it in, it automatically launches XawTV. Fun stuff.
[16:21] <Lego_Dan> hmm.. in compiz manager DBUS refuses to be enabled.. does that mean I have problems with it.. and will that cause problems in ubuntu.
[16:21] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: do i have to modify fstab or is there an alternative?
[16:21] <virus_> hey everybody! i have a problem with my touchpad
[16:21] <Ropechoborra> natsukashi_, Its not the Ubuntu graphic like install but the theory is just the same :PP
[16:21] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, I doubt it. DBUS isn't installed on BSD by default, and that is likely why Compix cannot use it on BSD.
[16:22] <aq_> f
[16:22] <aq_> sfv
[16:22] <aq_> svvs
[16:22] <aq_> sv
[16:22] <aq_> sbv
[16:22] <FloodBot1> aq_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <aq_> svb
[16:22] <Picassotamus> kora-chan: If you want it to mount properly everytime, then yes changing fstab would be my advice
[16:22] <___n00b___> hello all
[16:22] <Lego_Dan> ah.. makes sense. .but you would think that compiz would have installed it as a dependency
[16:22] <natsukashi_> Ropechoborra: I'm kind of new. Can I manage with trail by error? :P
[16:22] <kora-chan> Picassotamus: k thx
[16:22] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, One other kewl thing you can do with Compiz, DBUS, etc...: You can set up a scheduled job to automatically rotate you screen and other Compiz stuff. Not really useful, but fun noetheless.
[16:22] <___n00b___> can anyone help to make AssaultCube working in my ubuntu
[16:23] <Lego_Dan> yea.. im running compiz on my crappy intel card.. and can't figure out how to make all the sides visible with the transparent top/bottom like they do in the youtube videos.... all i get when i disable the caps is 2 sides visible which looks horrid
[16:24] <theD3viL11> i need help with my intel 855 tv-out! It wont work, i tried everything i can!
[16:24] <virus_> can anyone help me to reduce a little delay when i tapping in the touchpad ????
[16:24] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: witch intel card do you using?
[16:25] <Lego_Dan> um... whats the fastest way to check on bsd? also when i upgrade xorg to 7.4 it refuses to upgrade the xorg driver to 7.4 and the intel/ati drivers...
[16:26] <theD3viL11> lspci |grep VGA
[16:26] <Lego_Dan> if that was for me.. that didn't work
[16:26] <usas101> Beware of the downadup virus!
[16:27] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, Best of luck. I'm off to lunch.
[16:27] <usas101> it infected my brothers computer!
[16:27] <Lego_Dan> ok, thanks
[16:27] <ZarroBoogs> usas101: This isn't ##windows
[16:28] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: then i dont know :) i cant get my intel card working tv out :S
[16:28] <Lego_Dan> lol, i can't get my radeon card TV-out working :P
[16:28] <Ubersoldat> lol that was the best comment today
[16:28] <Ubersoldat> "Beware of the downadup virus!"
[16:28] <Lego_Dan> when its enabled :P but then compiz doesn't work so its like im always between a rock and a hard place
[16:28] <hybr1der> how do i share a folder over smb so that u need to login to access the folder?
[16:28] <Lavandergirl> whats a virus?
[16:29] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: fglx drivers dont work? When i had radeon 9600pro worked..
[16:29] <usas101> a thing that distroys your computer
[16:29] <Ubersoldat> hybr1der: use ssh, you'll be done faster
[16:29] <usas101> that is what a virus is.
[16:29] <usas101> hi cuca85!
[16:29] <theD3viL11> hybr1der: you have your configurations in /etc/samba/samba.cfg
[16:29] <Lego_Dan> yea I can't get any 3d with the radeon card... or tv-out.. 2d works fine
[16:29] <Ubersoldat> or someone who can't type properly
[16:29] <hybr1der> okay thx
[16:29] <Lavandergirl> usas101: I was being sarcastic
[16:29] <theD3viL11> hybr1der: /etc/samba/smb.cfg
[16:30] <margaret> I have version of rosetta stone that runs from the disc in the disc drive only not hd install necessary, can I run this in ubuntu
[16:30] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: thats weird. take a look on ubuntuforums.org ..you'll find an answer. There is alot of topics of ati cards problems.
[16:31] <LargePrime> Is there a way to set a reminder alarm so my computer could remind me of an appointment?  or a recommended task type application?
[16:31] <Lego_Dan> opps thought you knew, sorry, im talking on bsd.. im downloading kubuntu as we speak
[16:31] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: you can use, I don't know... cron?!?
[16:32] <LargePrime> i cant.  but i could learn
[16:32] <Lego_Dan> hoping for much nicer video and openpanel.. yeah!!
[16:32] <theD3viL11> LargePrime: i know that KDE has one kind of a program for this..dont know how it is in gnome about that..
[16:32] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: ok, noob then... with cron you can schedule anything
[16:32] <Jimbo__> I'm not all that experienced with linux yet.. I downloaded a .tar and extracted it.  It told me to run ./configure and then make and then make install.  I extracted the tar into my home folder.  Is that okay or should I extract it somewhere else?
[16:32] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: oh.. :) in kubuntu will work ;)
[16:32] <macman_> i took a 71m file and did .bz2 71msorry to be annoying ..  i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?
[16:33] <LargePrime> Ubersoldat: can i make appointments and notes for them?
[16:33] <Ubersoldat> Jimbo__: that's ok... but I wouldn't be messing with a compiler if you're a noob
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> thats what im hoping :) im sure the radeon 2400 HD will severly out proform the intel card..
[16:33] <meinte> Jimbo__, don't forget to "sudo make install"
[16:33] <meinte> instead of just make install
[16:33] <macman_> if i have a 177gig folder .. if i rar it and split the rar files and then bzip2 it or lzma it will it compress further ?
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> do i have to sudo in ubuntu or is su the same still?
[16:33] <grawity> Jimbo__: tar should have created a new directory in your homedir. For example, if you had test-1.2.tar.gz, the folder would be named test-1.2/ -- so use 'cd' to go into that dir, and then run the ./configure command.
[16:33] <grawity> Lego_Dan: sudo.
[16:33] <Lego_Dan> ah
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: sudo
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> ls, cp, mkdir, rm -r,  all the same ?
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[16:34] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: you don't HAVE to, but that's the recommended way
[16:34] <heyong> nihao
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: yes, the same..
[16:34] <Lego_Dan> cool. so its only a few commands that change?
[16:34] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: when you work with system files you need to attached sudo.
[16:34] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: what?
[16:35] <heyong>  what
[16:35] <henryrhodes> is there a way  to use the dvd for the eeepc to reload windows while in linux
[16:35] <Lego_Dan> what do you mean? i usually just open a konsole, su, and do whatever i want....
[16:35] <LargePrime> Ubersoldat: i think evoluition is more what i need
[16:35] <Ubersoldat> LargePrime: yes
[16:35] <heyong> how can i use  ubuntu
[16:35] <meinte> Lego_Dan, root is disabled by default
[16:35] <mar77i> hi, I'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)...
[16:35] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... or something like that
[16:35] <meinte> in ubuntu
[16:35] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: you can get a root shell session with 'sudo -i'
[16:36] <Ubersoldat> anyway, if you wan't the sytem to just nudge you about something you can use cron with xmessage... it's very simple
[16:36] <Lego_Dan> ah so you can just su, and say in it. you have to sudo -i
[16:36] <henryrhodes> i need to make the dvd image boot from from sd card
[16:36] <Picassotamus> heyong: You may want to be a bit more specific
[16:36] <Otanacht> whats a good text editor for writing up code?
[16:36] <meinte> yes
[16:36] <Otanacht> please
[16:36] <henryrhodes> i am working on linux now
[16:36] <Ropechoborra> Otanacht, i guess Vi
[16:36] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: well, ubuntu doesn't have the root account enabled by default. you'd have to enable it to use su. sudo works just as well
[16:37] <meinte> Otanacht, gedit/vim
[16:37] <theD3viL11> henryrhodes: Vim
[16:37] <prince_jammys> !rootsudo | Lego_Dan
[16:37] <Ropechoborra> Vim =X
[16:37] <ZarroBoogs> !best | Otanacht
[16:37] <henryrhodes> thanks
[16:37] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: there's a brief comparison of sudo and su in that link, i think.
[16:37] <Lego_Dan> ok thanks, im also assuming vim is the text editor, like ee in bsd.
[16:37] <FoolsRun> Hi, can someone point me to an explanation for the removal of the update notifier in Jaunty?
[16:37] <mar77i> okay, here are some key combinations I have tried: c-m-f1, c-m-backspace, c-m-f2... NO RESPONSE. I'm quite stuck on this now.
[16:37] <FoolsRun> Just so I can understand it better
[16:37] <Ubersoldat> Otacon22: as I told someone before, today is April's Fool, not "Trollers Day"
[16:37] <ZarroBoogs> FoolsRun: Jaunty support in #ubuntu+1 please.
[16:37] <thom__> how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???
[16:38] <FoolsRun> ZarroBoogs: Sorry, I even knew that :)
[16:38] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: nano and vim come installed. of course you can install whatever others you want
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> cool. that includes ee
[16:38] <prince_jammys> (and ed)
[16:38] <prince_jammys> if you're a masochist
[16:38] <meinte> Otanacht, if you don't know how to use Vim you first need to find out, look it up in google i'd say
[16:38] <theD3viL11> anyone have intel graphic card?
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> me :P
[16:38] <Lego_Dan> masochist ?? because i want to use ee.. its simple and works :P
[16:39] <thom__> anyone, how can I make sure that my gtk is gtk 2.0???
[16:39] <prince_jammys> Lego_Dan: i don't know ee, i was talking about ed
[16:39] <theD3viL11> Lego_Dan: hehe, you dont have ubuntu installed
[16:39] <Lego_Dan> pkg_info|grep gtk ??
[16:39] <mar77i> anyone?
[16:40] <mar77i> is there a way to boot to command line with an intrepid livecd?
[16:40] <ottertoast> mar77i, what was your question
[16:40] <ottertoast> mar77i, nevermind
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> did that work for ya thom_ ?
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> i was guessing
pkg_info: command not found
[16:40] <Lego_Dan> hehe ok its a bsd but i was trying to help :P
[16:40] <mar77i> I'm having severe problems with an acer aspire 1200 laptop, for which the livecd does not seem to work. even with safe-graphics-mode it doesn't seem to find an appropriate driver (a partial ubuntu logo blinks by in about half a frame)... ctrl-alt-backspace nor ctrl-alt-f1 aren't working...
[16:40] <prince_jammys> mar77i: good question. you can't get to a console the usual way?
[16:41] <prince_jammys> ah, ok.
[16:41] <mar77i> no.
[16:41] <prince_jammys> that sucks
[16:41] <Jimbo__> I'm not sure if this is really an ubuntu question.. but I just installed gearmand and when I'm trying to start it I get this error: gearmand: error while loading shared libraries: libgearman.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory       Anybody know if something is weird with ubuntu?
[16:41] <mar77i> it does, big time.
[16:41] <hanthana|> how to disable desktop effects in kubuntu, no way to use GUI, is there any way to disable it in cli?
 I'm using Ubuntu
 I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[16:42] <Lego_Dan> yea i know ... .but i thought i would try.. :P im getting ready to install ubuntu, and need to figure out which commands will transfer over .. sorry
[16:42] <hanthana|> not geeting any desktop icons, just blank screen
[16:42] <Lego_Dan> and i thought it might be lucky if it worked
[16:42] <prince_jammys> hehe
[16:42] <ZarroBoogs> thom__: If you're running gnome then you have at least gtk2 installed.
[16:43] <Blackshark> hi. i've got a problem with booting my server machine after upgrading the ram from 2gigs to 4 gigs. the error i am getting is something like "softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
[16:43] <Blackshark> when i switch back to 2gigs the system is booting successfully
[16:44] <Lavandergirl> Blackshark: 32bit OS?
[16:44] <LjL> Blackshark: sounds like bad RAM, have you used memtest?
[16:44] <thom__> ZarroBoogs : OK thanks
[16:44] <Lego_Dan> will a i386 boot with 4 gb
[16:44] <mar77i> I'm trying to boot to rl 4 or so... looking at the grub option on auntie google
[16:44] <LjL> Lego_Dan: yes, it just won't see all of them
[16:44] <Kurlon> What is the proper chan to ask questions in reguards to Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope?  (Or is this the right place?)
[16:44] <Blackshark> 64 bit ubuntu 8.04
[16:44] <papu> Hello everybody, i'm total newbie, does your help also includes Xubuntu
[16:44] <LjL> !jaunty > Kurlon    (Kurlon, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:44] <Lego_Dan> ah. ok
[16:44] <hanthana|> which file i should edit to disable desktop effects?
[16:44] <genii> Kurlon: #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <LjL> papu: yes, although there's also a specific #xubuntu channel you can use
[16:44] <Lavandergirl> have you run memtest? might be a bad module
[16:44] <Blackshark> LjL: i am 100% sure about the ram working correctly
[16:45] <LjL> Blackshark: how do you know that?
[16:45] <digifor> if mkfs.ext2 freezes while writing inode tables 267/1193...does that mean hd failure?
[16:45] <henryrhodes> I have thought of vim
[16:45] <Kurlon> LjL/genii: Thanks!
[16:45] <Blackshark> LjL: because i removed it from my windows server
[16:45] <rackerhacker> anyone pretty familiar with LVM that could take a look at a wild error on Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:45] <Lego_Dan> i dunno man.. i had some ram recently that seemed to run stable but my windows system blue screen periodically.. memtest failed it 100 000 in under 2mins
[16:45] <LjL> Blackshark: well, it might not have been seated well, or may have got damaged during the move
[16:46] <LjL> Blackshark: although the error you mention should be SATA-related i think (but then bad RAM might cause any sort of error)
[16:46] <digifor> disregard
[16:46] <mar77i> strange though, I had a xorg working before with some arch-like linux...
[16:46] <papu> I want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same
[16:46] <Lego_Dan> i agree with LjL after the catastrophy i had with my ram
[16:47] <Blackshark> LjL: okay i'll do a memtest on the ram and get back to you when i find something
[16:47] <thom__> Umm how to solve USB-Flash disk that 'read-only system'??
[16:47] <LjL> Blackshark: i think it's a good idea. you don't need to run a very long memtest anyway, just do a quick check, 5 minutes or so
[16:47] <LjL> thom__: what filesystem is there on it?
[16:48] <thom__> Fat32
[16:48] <thom__> LjL : Fat32
[16:48] <LjL> thom__: did you mount it manually?
[16:48] <thom__> LjL : automatic by my machine
[16:48] <LjL> thom__: where is it mounted? (should be /media/disk or somesuch)
[16:49] <thom__> LjL : but it solved if I got Windos and do attrib on it
[16:49] <LjL> hm?
[16:49] <hanthana|> LjL: PING
[16:49] <Lego_Dan> ok all, well thanks for the info, I'll be back after i muck the kubuntu install :P
[16:49] <thom__> LjL " yeah in /media/
[16:50] <LjL> hanthana|: PONG
[16:50] <LjL> thom__: /media/what? do "ls -ld" on it and check the permissions
[16:50] <hanthana|> LjL: is there any way to disable desktop effects by editing a text file ? i mean if we can not access GUI
[16:50] <thom__> LjL : for information, It usually coz the Flash-disk was from Windows with Virus influenced
[16:50] <LjL> hanthana|: i have no idea
[16:51] <wever> Is there a reason for xorg to have to separate processes?
[16:51] <hanthana|> LjL: one of my friend got blank screen after he enabled desktop effects
[16:51] <lianimator> hanthana|: if you cannot access GUI? then how will you see the effects anyway?
[16:51] <hanthana|> no luck after restart
[16:51] <archman> LjL, thank you for "opening my dumb eyes". I "sweeped" everything, and now it's all goood! thanks! :)
[16:51] <archman> LjL, i can't even hear a fan now :)
[16:52] <vigo> How do I start a pkg automatically at boot, it requires /sudo or /su.
[16:52] <arkanabar> can anyone suggest a lightweight, graphical POP3 email client?
[16:52] <hanthana|> lianimator: after enabling effects he can loging but no icons etc
[16:52] <LjL> vigo: "start a pkg"?
[16:52] <lakeoftea> thunderbird ;)
[16:52] <Ubersoldat> arkanabar: evolution
[16:52] <regeya> THUNDERBIRD, lightweight...
[16:52] <regeya> o_O
[16:52] <lakeoftea> outlook
[16:52] <regeya> sylpheed
[16:53] <lakeoftea> aids
[16:53] <vigo> LjL: the graphical firewall doohicky. I want it to start at boot, also maybe some mail fetch things.
[16:53] <the10nitro> I don't suppose there is an option to do like "wget -N address", but only check the timestamp, not size?
[16:53] <papu> Can anyone help a total newbie on priv?
[16:53] <LjL> vigo: you want to start a *graphical* app at boot? that doesn't seem like a good idea. which firewall is that anyway?
[16:54] <Mean_Admin> so here I am, trying smbumount and getting "Device busy" answer
[16:54] <vigo> LjL: Firestarter
[16:54] <regeya> if it's firestarter, it uses an init script; the gui app is just a frontend
[16:54] <vigo> Thank you
[16:54] <LjL> vigo: what regeya said. i can't see a valid reason to start the GUI of it on boot.
[16:55] <Mean_Admin> so then, what's up, how am I supposed to unmount a samba share ?
[16:55] <vigo> I have to ask some questions that may help me and help others.
[16:56] <tuxtox> Hi!  I install 8.1 on a partition that was factory made.  The other partition has windows vista.  I cannot see the windows partition in ubuntu, and I cannot see the ubuntu partition in windows.  How do I fix that?
[16:56] <sachael> does anyone remember the terminal command which gives info about a window you click on?
[16:56] <the10nitro> Is there a way to get a file only if the timestamp is newer than the local copy?  "wget -N" gets the file if they are different in size.  I don't want it to check size.
[16:56] <LjL> sachael: xwininfo
[16:56] <hbekel> sachael: xprop, xwininfo
[16:56] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  for vista, download & install ext2IFS
[16:56] <sachael> LjL, hbekel: thanks, these were the ones
[16:57] <tuxtox> arkanabar download that in ubuntu?  using the syn. pac. man.?
[16:57] <Lego_Dan> ok whats a LAMP server? do I not just install each separately  (apache, php, mysql, openpanel, etc)
[16:57] <Pupuser402-1> !lamp
[16:58] <papu> I want to install Tibia player for my friend (don't even ask :) ) and on my laptop it doesn't even start. No debug info, just nothing. On Ubuntu it's the same. What may be the problem?
[16:58] <Lego_Dan> ok so i dont' have to but its a way to speed up the process, basically
[16:58] <Lego_Dan> like a all in one package
[16:59] <sachael> omg, is there a way to turn the awful pink skin of ubuntuforums? it is really embarassing >:(
[16:59] <the10nitro> Lego_Dan: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[17:00] <Lenin> Hello anyone there?
[17:00] <Lego_Dan> oh cool...
[17:00] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[17:00] <the10nitro> no prob
[17:01] <qimo> hello,everybody
[17:01] <Ubersoldat> why everyone uses apt instead of aptitude?
[17:01] <Lego_Dan> and after that just add the mail server stuff/ ftp and openpanel and done ?
[17:01] <grawity> Ubersoldat: probably because it works better for "everyone"
[17:02] <qimo> ???no one chat with me?
[17:02] <Lego_Dan> I will chat with you qimo
[17:02]  * grawity greets qimo.
[17:02] <Lego_Dan> whats up :P
[17:02] <the10nitro> yeah, the install process will ask you to set up a MySQL password
[17:02] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  no.  ext2IFS lets Windows (2K, Vista, XP, and even Me) read linux file systems.  google, download, and install it in vista.
[17:02] <arkanabar> tuxtox:  to see vista partition in Ubuntu, you have to mount the partition, which usually requires a password.
[17:03] <Droopsta915> is there such a thing as a automotive chat room around here?
[17:03] <Ubersoldat> grawity: I haven't had any problem with aptitude, that's why I ask
[17:03] <Lego_Dan> ... now who's not talking :P
[17:03] <grawity> Ubersoldat: I haven't had any problem with apt either.
[17:03] <sauce> can anyone tell me where the drivers folder is located?
[17:03] <tavasti> how I use update-python-modules when I have installed new theme for moinmoin?
[17:03] <Lego_Dan>  :( i say hi to the guy and he leave :P
[17:04] <scunizi> sauce: what are you trying to install?
[17:04] <Lego_Dan> am i that repulsive :P
[17:04]  * Lego_Dan thinks i shouldn't have asked that
[17:04] <sauce> im just trying to find my bc43 driver to back it up
[17:04] <tuxtox> arkanabar ok i just downloaded it.  I will reboot and install and ill come back and report. thanks
[17:04] <scunizi> !ot | Lego_Dan
[17:05] <the10nitro> wget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps
[17:05] <scunizi> sauce: no need if you installed from the ubuntu repos .. like from synaptic or aptitude or apt-get.. let their servers hold it for you
[17:05] <vigo> If I were to buy a book to help me relearn this stuff, UNIX or Debian or (some other)?
[17:05] <sauce> how do i check that?
[17:06] <lianimator> what's more suitable for downloading large files (which usually stop halfway in firefox and needs to be downloaded from the beginning)? aria or gwget
[17:06] <midkniht> arkanabar, is that like arkansas?
[17:06] <arin> HDLJKHD'
[17:06] <the10nitro> It's not about partial downloads, it's about compressed files.
[17:06] <arthurL> lianimator: Torrents
[17:07] <scunizi> vigo: start with http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html and then check www.scribd.com for other ubuntu/linux pdf that are downloadable or viewable.. for real paper I enjoyed "Beginning Ubuntu Linux by Thomas
[17:07] <lianimator> arthurL: that wasn't my question though. I'm trying to download WoP..
[17:07] <the10nitro> ﻿lianimator: wget handles that pretty well
[17:07] <hybr1der> i dont really get this with samba, am i supposed to be able to use ubuntus accounts, so that a windows machine wants to access ubuntu it uses ubuntus accounts to login?
[17:08] <sauce> so i found my driver in synaptics manager
[17:09] <sauce> does it stay on the server?
[17:09] <scunizi> sauce: then you got it from the ubuntu repositories.. no need to back up the driver.. you'd have to do it with the .deb file anyway not the raw driver files that are installed.
[17:09] <lianimator> the10nitro: thanks. man wget for me
[17:09] <LargePrime> is their a recommended PDF editor?
[17:09] <sauce> so when i do a reinstall all i have to do is open the synaptic manager and reinstall fwcutter?
[17:09] <ZarroBoogs> hybr1der: Yes.
[17:09] <vigo> scunizi: Thank you.
[17:10] <scunizi> LargePrime: the one I've finally gotten to work well for me is pdfedit.  It's in the repos.. add and delete pages, annotate etc..
[17:10] <scunizi> vigo: np
[17:10] <the10nitro> question: ﻿wget -N checks timestamps and filesize, to see if they have changed.  What if I only want to check timestamps?
[17:10] <clearscreen> !repeat | the10nitro
[17:10] <LargePrime> scunizi: thanks.  where is the repos?
[17:10] <catox> hello everyone,,I'm coming....
[17:11] <ZarroBoogs> ZarroBoogs: Er. I think at least. I don't have access to a linux computer at the moment to check.
[17:11] <Geometry> hello, anyone ever used byzanz gif creator ?
[17:11] <arkanabar> LargePrime:  access the repos with either apt (command line) or synaptic (GUI) package manager.
[17:11] <LargePrime> arkanabar: thanks
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:12] <arussel1> I have a set of schema, how can I add them to a ldap ?
[17:12] <scunizi> LargePrime: if you look in the file called /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic you'll see the references for them.. in synaptic you'll also be able to change the servers to find a faster one for updates, program installs etc.
[17:12] <clearscreen> the10nitro: if bandwidth isn't a problem, a simple bash script should suffice.. if it is.. then I dont have a clue, sorry ;)
[17:12] <arussel1> I tried to just add them to /etc/ldap/schema but I still can't see them with ApacheDirectory.
[17:12] <LargePrime> scunizi: thanks again
[17:13] <sauce> scunizi: thanks man! hopefully my reinstall will run smooth
[17:13] <scunizi> LargePrime: takes a while to wrap your head around all the different ways of doing things in linux.. fun though
[17:13] <scunizi> sauce: why are you reinstalling?
[17:13] <LargePrime> scunizi: agreeded.  and fun.  So i am in synaptic.  how do i find pdfedit?
[17:14] <catox> how use to ubuntu ,....i dont know..
[17:14] <Blackshark> LjL: i did a quick memtest scan but no errors were found. is there a possibility the grub isn't accepting the 4gig?
[17:14] <scunizi> LargePrime: click the search button and type pdfedit
[17:14] <UUB1> I am trying to run a .sh file and wine keeps trying to run it automatically, so I go to terminal then type sh <file> and i get sh: Can't open.  How do i run it?
[17:14] <clearscreen> UUB1: chmod +x file.sh && sh file.sh
[17:14] <sauce> scunizi: this was just a trial run i didnt allocate a large enough partition of my dual boot for my liking
[17:14] <LargePrime> funny i just saw that.  noobish
[17:14] <scunizi> LargePrime: or if you're in Intrepid 8.04 there's also a quick search box.
[17:14] <Blackshark> LjL: when i put only 3gigs into the machine it still is working
[17:14] <Nithrin> Which is better? Guarddog or Firestarter?
[17:15] <clearscreen> !better
[17:15] <ZarroBoogs> !tutorial | catox
[17:15] <scunizi> sauce: so try expanding the partitions with .... ta da.. a live cd :)
[17:15] <LargePrime> scunizi: i am 8.04 .  a who what box?
[17:15] <scunizi> LargePrime: you won't have a quick search box in 8.04.. just click the search button.. that'll work.
[17:15] <LargePrime> oh i am hardy and scu said intreped
[17:16] <sauce> scunizi: i would try but i messed up this installation trying to back up my setting i ran the memory down to 0 and invoked some type of safe mode
[17:16] <Geometry> hello, anyone ever used byzanz animated gif creator ? or can tell me where to find the 'window manager'
[17:16] <makario> How can I view an image fullscreen through the terminal?
[17:16] <JediMaster> hey guys, does anyone know anyting about link aggregation?
[17:16] <yow|x2> Geometry - its a gnome applet the last i checked
[17:16] <evilbug> would flash (sites, videos, etc.) lag on an eee pc?
[17:16] <fosco__> makario, try zgv, not sure if it is in repos
[17:17] <arkanabar> Geometry:  Window manager is selected by display manager, part of the graphical login screen.
[17:17] <Geometry> ok how do i open it or w/e need to see what class/name it gives to my windows
[17:18] <Mba7eth> hi guys ... i lost my windows password... can i reset it from ubuntu ?
[17:18] <Geometry> not likely, there are ways
[17:18] <Geometry> google a bit
[17:18] <arkanabar> geometry:  are you trying to find out the window borders theme name?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: theres a recovery toll on the ultimate boot cd, that can be used to blank the password off
[17:19] <LargePrime> how can i check if my wireless is working while connected wired?
[17:19] <Mba7eth> ActionParsnip What is the ultimate boot cd ?
[17:19] <Geometry> arkanabar, i'm trying to find out what my linux calls my windows, cuz this prog needz the exact name
[17:19] <sauce> largeprime: if your wireless card is turned on it will still detect networks when wired
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: www.ultimatebootcd.com
[17:19] <Geometry> LargePrime, try iwconfig or ifconfig
[17:19] <LargePrime> Mba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator
[17:20] <Geometry> it should show your wireless card
[17:20] <Mba7eth> LargePrime I lost it :(
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Mba7eth: if you log on as administrator you can reset any local password, if you have lost your admin password you need the UBCD
[17:20] <mib_6r44sw82> Anyone know why my desktop top and bottom bars have disappeared (ubuntu 8.10) despite multiple restarts and how i might fix it?
[17:20] <LargePrime> Mba7eth reboot in safe mode and logon as administrator
[17:21] <LargePrime> safemode in windows admin password is null.  i dont think it can be set
[17:21] <LargePrime> big hole in win
[17:21] <jameswf> did you guys see microsoft is promoting Jaunty :http://www.live.com/
[17:21] <clearscreen> lol no
[17:22] <shadeslayer> LjL: you there?
[17:22] <clearscreen> this is really offtopic, but the admin password in safemode is just the password of administrator account.. it's set during setup
[17:22] <jameswf> that should be the 9.04 login screen
[17:23] <dugudule> #eurix
[17:23] <arkanabar> geometry : Ah, you're looking for the path or full directory name, yes?
[17:23] <LargePrime> clearscreen:  i dont think so.  i have hacked a few machines that way.
[17:24] <Geometry> --class=CLASS            Program class as used by the window manager
[17:24] <Geometry>   --name=NAME              Program name as used by the window manager
[17:24] <Geometry> i need that
[17:24] <clearscreen> LargePrime: you might not think so, but you'd be wrong :P
[17:24] <makario> How can I figure out which computer uses SSH access with nmap? I forgot the IP address. >.<
[17:25] <archman> How to access "Sessions" window from Run? what's the command?
[17:25] <prince_jammys> Geometry: xprop
[17:25] <clearscreen> makario: nmap -sS -sV -vv -P0 -p 22 1.1.1.1-255
[17:25] <clearscreen> makario: you'll need to run that as sudo btw
[17:25] <abhra> is there a way to connect nokia phones with ubuntu?
[17:25] <makario> Thanks, clearscreen
[17:26] <adda> hello
[17:26] <abhra> hello
[17:26]  * grawity greets adda.
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> makario: check for listening port 22 (default)
[17:26] <adda> how are u?
[17:26] <Samper> anyone from Ottawa Ontario hanging out in this channel?
[17:26] <Samper> (canada)
[17:27] <abhra> is there a way to connect nokia with ubuntu?
[17:27] <archman> abhra, we already heard you. want and maybe someone will answer...
[17:27] <archman> wait*
[17:27] <abhra> ok thanks
[17:28] <murlidhar> abhra: do u want to use internet from ur phone ?
[17:28] <Bluhawk> Why inthe world can I not get the flash player to work in Firefox.  I have dl'd and installed the newest flash player, but still can not get any streams to play from Stickam or Ustream...
[17:28] <adda> ......i`m bored:((
[17:28] <macman_> how can i mv or cp all files in one command to an external and leave out 1 folder ?
[17:29] <archman> adda, ok, then tell me how to run "sessions" window via alt+f2 ;) :D
[17:29] <kora-chan> hi, i wanted to make my ntfs harddrive mount automatically with write privileges for my user, so i added " /dev/sdb1       /media/pladde   fuse    user    0       0" to my fstab. when i plug it in it says my user has no permission to mount blick device. what do i need to to? any advice?
[17:29] <Geometry> Bluhawk, have you any java programs open ?
[17:29] <Mean_Admin> right, so I have this /bin/sh scrip that does stuff and when I call in a terminal with "./name of script" it works just fine. However, when I  create a Launcher, it reports    Failed to execute child process "./home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname" (No such file or directory
[17:29] <abhra> murli no .i just want to use pc suite functions
[17:29] <vigo> Bluhawk: SWF or gnash or the others?
[17:29] <LargePrime> How do i view wireless networks while still connected wired
[17:30] <mbeierl> jameswf: I don't see anything at live.com which indicates jaunty... what did you mean?
[17:30] <arkanabar>   http://www.live.com/ for jackalope info.  But no ubuntu info UNLESS you search News.....
[17:30] <adda> archman......i`m using linux not windows
[17:30] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: don't place a . on the start of that
[17:30] <archman> adda, lol x 1000
[17:30] <Ubersoldat> just "/home/user/.hiddenfolder/scriptname"
[17:30] <freelanceweb> I am running openSSH version 4.6p1 but i want to upgrade to 4.8 or above. Using apt-get only patches
[17:30] <mbeierl> Samper: Ottawa here... Kanata actually
[17:30] <adda> + i am girl.....
[17:30] <Bluhawk> Geo, vigo,  No java I know of, and SWF I do belive...
[17:30] <archman> adda, what made you think I thought you were using windows? :D
[17:31] <murlidhar> abhra: u mean u want to transfer files or backup contacts ...?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> !info openssh-server
[17:31] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: with no .  the script just doesn't do anything :(
[17:31] <abhra> yes murli
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: 5.1p1 is in the repo
[17:31] <LargePrime> Can i view wireless networks while still connected wired?
[17:31] <jameswf> mbeierl, its a jackalope
[17:31] <vigo> Bluhawk: You may need to get the Java stuff to make that work
[17:31] <adda> archman...i`m from roumania.....i don`t understand very well...
[17:31] <archman> LargePrime, sure, with nm applet
[17:32] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: pastebin the script
[17:32] <murlidhar> abhra: to transfer files u can use ur phone as pen drive.. which u should be having that feature in ur phone ...
[17:32] <LargePrime> archman: what is a nm applet?
[17:32] <archman> LargePrime, or wifi-radar
[17:32] <archman> LargePrime, network manager ;)
[17:32] <mbeierl> arkanabar, jameswf: only on live.com if you change the location to United States
[17:32] <freelanceweb> ActionParsnip : I have 5.1 on my 8.10 box but how do I get it on my 7.10 box?
[17:32] <murlidhar> abhra: to backup contacts u need an application which i don't remember the name...just wait let me search for it
[17:32] <Bluhawk> viggo...OOOhhhh ok, will try that.  Ya, you would need the java I do belive...Duuuuu
[17:33] <Samper> mbeierl: I am starting up a community group here in Ottawa called Computers For Communities (http://computersforcommunities.ca). The recipe is simple, take cats off computers from those throwing them out, slap on Ubuntu and traing people on how to use it. then give the computers away to those facing barriers to adopting technology. Perhaps you might know some people in the local Linux community that may be interested. perhaps yourself.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openssh-server gutsy
[17:33] <adda> ......i`m baka...:(
[17:33] <mbeierl> jameswf: I'm in Canada, and there's no image in the background until I changed the locale
[17:33] <archman> LargePrime, you can actually view wireless networks by issuing "iwlist scan"
[17:33] <juaco> hello
[17:33] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: there you go : http://pastebin.com/m38d04670
[17:33] <jameswf> mbeierl, ahh stupid redmond
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: you could compile the source, or find a PPA with the new version for gutsy
[17:33] <archman> adda: no place to chat, so...goto ubuntu chat channel for this..
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !gutsy
[17:33] <abhra> yeah i know that.but i want to use the pc suite function not the mass mode.its not good enough.thanks for searching though
[17:34] <LargePrime> archman: ok so my wless has the wrong driver i think
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: gutsy (i think is EOL soon)
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !eol
[17:34] <murlidhar> abhra: install these two applications gammu and gmobilemedia
[17:34] <archman> LargePrime: Your wlan card doesn't work?
[17:34] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: don't do sudo in a script, take out all the sudo's and execute the script with sudo
[17:34] <maven> if i wanted to install the driver for my sound card, where would i start?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> freelanceweb: yep, end of this month
[17:34] <mbeierl> Samper: I'm doing something similar for my kids
[17:34] <murlidhar> abhra: gmobilemedia can transfer files from ur phone and vice versa
[17:34] <LargePrime> archman: it is not scanning
[17:34] <danand> !flash | danand
[17:34] <mbeierl> Samper: I'm doing something similar for my kids's school.  (sorry ' and enter are too close)
[17:34] <adda> archman i`m going to F*** myself
[17:35] <maven> !sound
[17:35] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: how can I tell the lancuhy to execute with sudo ? like "sudo /path/to/script"?
[17:35] <adda> bye
[17:35] <LargePrime> archman: it is a broadcom 43XX and this is a known problem i think
[17:35] <Ubersoldat> yes
[17:35] <AntiNeko> Hey all! I've really messed up my audio settings - is there a way to reinstall everything to the default settings without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[17:35] <abhra> ok i'm searching
[17:35] <archman> LargePrime: cool, i got bcm4311, the cards work ;)
[17:35] <murlidhar> !gammu | abhra
[17:35] <murlidhar> !info gammu  | abhra
[17:35] <archman> !flame
[17:36] <murlidhar> !info gammu > abhra
[17:36] <juaco> i have a gateway to internet on my lan, and it is forwarding some ports to my machine with DNAT. If i have such gateway as my default route in my machine, do i have to also do SNAT --to thegateway for packets DNAT'ed to me?
[17:36] <vigo> AntiNeko: Yes, choose the install at bootup, or use the backups
[17:36] <murlidhar> !test
[17:36] <abhra> !gammu
[17:36] <archman> LargePrime: goto Hardware Drivers
[17:36] <LargePrime> archman: is it a new card or an older one?
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: You mean like a restore?
[17:36] <murlidhar> abhra: its a gammu - Mobile phone management utility
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: I know I've used X-server recovery one
[17:36] <AntiNeko> vigo: once*
[17:36] <archman> LargePrime: And choose b43 driver for your card. what distro you on btw.?
[17:36] <vigo> AntiNeko: Yes, there is a Restore thing in the list
[17:37] <murlidhar> abhra: u can manage ur contacts and other stuff from this application
[17:37] <AntiNeko> vigo: Awesome! Will check it out. Thanks!!
[17:37] <abhra> thanks
[17:37] <murlidhar> np
[17:37] <LargePrime> archman: 8.04 .  it wants to know if it should extrach firmware?
[17:37] <clearscreen> Bluhawk: dunno if you fixed it yet, just grab ubuntu-restricted-extras :)
[17:37] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: it's a win :)
[17:37] <archman> LargePrime: I think you don't, it was before that we needed to do it...
[17:38] <Lego_Dan> um when kubuntu is done installing and i reboot, will i have to kdm or something to boot to kde? or will it automatically do it?
[17:38] <archman> LargePrime: Why don't you check that? (Hardware Drivers)
[17:38] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: thanks you
[17:39] <clearscreen> Lego_Dan: it should boot KDE by default
[17:39] <Mean_Admin> Ubersoldat: woudl you think/know if this would work similary on a mac ?
[17:39] <Bluhawk> Clearscreen thanks....willl try
[17:39] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: sure
[17:39] <excalibas> Hello, I can connect to the local network but cant connect to the internet on my eee (intrepid) no one seems to be able to help me. anny ideas. please
[17:39] <Mean_Admin> cool :)
[17:39] <Lego_Dan> is there a way to disable that?
[17:39] <arkanabar> !best | arkanabar
[17:39] <Ubersoldat> Mean_Admin: just make sure ssh is on $PATH
[17:39] <Mckagan> holas
[17:39]  * Ubersoldat leaving
[17:40] <Lolz> Bonjour il y 'a quelqu'un ?
[17:40] <archman> LargePrime: I'm here for only 10mins more if you need help...
[17:40] <LargePrime> archman: i did.  it seems the proprietary drivers were not enabled.  i enabled them , it dlded a file, and asked to extract firmware.  i didnot check that box and continued, and then it went back to Hardware manager and still has no proprietary driver enabled
[17:41] <archman> LargePrime: Yes, check the extraction!
[17:41] <LargePrime> archman: sorry but how?
[17:41] <archman> LargePrime: It will do everything automatically, i think, i don't remember really...
[17:41] <archman> check the box
[17:41] <LargePrime> archman: ofcourse.  one sec
[17:42] <archman> cool
[17:42] <mrsteveman1> is the forum site down or is this a joke
[17:42] <Lego_Dan> is there a way to disable the auto boot of kde? to boot to a terminal instead?
[17:43] <nathan7> mrsteveman1: lol
[17:43] <nathan7> Lego_Dan: Sec.
[17:43] <Lego_Dan> ok
[17:43] <nathan7> Lego_Dan: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove
[17:43] <jatt> hi, I open a file with .tex extension using firefox. When I click on the URL a window titled "Opening gant.tex" is shown. When I choose Browse... in that window I get the message: "The application you chose ("(null)") could not be found".
[17:43] <LargePrime> arch restarting
[17:44] <jatt> How do I tell firefox to open gedit instead?
[17:44] <Lego_Dan> thanks
[17:44] <AntiNeko> vigo: Which one do I run? I don't see any sound-stuff under the Recovery Menu.
[17:44] <vigo> AntiNeko: Which version are you on?
[17:45] <AntiNeko> 8.10
[17:45] <AntiNeko> vigo: But I was kinda surpirsed to find a second kernel to run. There was kernel 1 and kernel 1 recovery, and then a second one with normal and recovery.
[17:46] <nathan7> AntiNeko: Is normal.
[17:46] <nathan7> AntiNeko: Old kernels are kept.
[17:46] <AntiNeko> nathan7: Ah, ok
[17:46] <arkanabar> jatt:  right click link, hopefully you will see "open with" in context menu.
[17:47] <LargePrime> bah
[17:47] <arkanabar> jatt:  if not, save file to desktop or home folder, start gedit, and browse for file.
[17:48] <AntiNeko> vigo: My audio settings are messed up. I uninstalled ALSA when installing OSS (I thought OSS would solve some stuff) and by doing that I also disabled PulseAudio. Now when I've restored ALSA and Pulse, everything is just a big pile of settings and nothing seems to work predicably. I just wanna restore the default sound settings and the devices in Sound Preferences
[17:48] <JediMaster> can anyone suggest a nice easy command line VPN program?
[17:48] <ctp> would you recommend jaunty as 32 or as 64 bit version on a amd64 desktop? i see no really use for 64-bit arch on desktop ;-)
[17:48] <lakeoftea> how can i make ubuntu brew my coffee in the morning?
[17:49] <fosco__> !coffee | lakeoftea
[17:49] <fosco__> :-)
[17:49] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45
[17:49] <dayo> lakeoftea: cron
[17:49] <little_unix> hotplug will detect?
[17:49] <little_unix> and
[17:49] <little_unix> work fine?
[17:49] <dayo> !cron | lakeoftea
[17:49] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ratso, I just passed that page, going back
[17:51] <Raylz> europe/berlin has gmt+2 right?
[17:51] <AntiNeko> +1 I believe
[17:52] <LargePrime> I am having a problem with the hardware drivers application.  i am trying to enable "Broadcom b43 wireless driver".  when i enable it gives a message "While this driver itself is free software, it relies on proprietary firmware which cannot be legally shipped with the operating system. Your hardware will not work without the firmware."  i click enable then nothing happens.  the first time i did this it downloaded a file and asked me if i wished to extr
[17:52] <Lint01> +2 since Sunday
[17:52] <vigo> AntiNeko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting<<that is one of the pages I found, it is pretty easy to follow
[17:53] <jmz> Anyone here running ubuntu on an i7 system ?
[17:54] <jmz> Guess not lol
[17:54] <AntiNeko> vigo: My sound was working well out of the box, I just couldn't change the default sound source. So a restore-thing would be nice. My apps didn't care what I put in Sound Preferences
[17:55] <AntiNeko> vigo: I'll check it out
[17:56] <vigo> AntiNeko: That one should resolve the error.
[17:56] <nvstp1> If you want to enable B43 wireless, you need to install the firmware for it
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[17:56] <LargePrime> nvstp thanks
[17:56] <DaveChannin> Newbie question: I added the kalarm application and it installed (and runs fine). TFM says it should appear in the Application menu under the appropriate category, but it doesn't. If I start it manually from terminal window all is well. Ideas on how to get it to appear in Apps menu?
[17:57] <nvstp1> First, you need to install a package with name begin with b43-xxxx
[17:58] <jercos> b43-fwcutter?
[17:58] <jercos> (only package i remember starting with b43 offhand)
[17:59] <jrib> jercos: have you checked System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[17:59] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45
[17:59] <little_unix> hotplug will detect?
[17:59] <little_unix> and work fine?
[17:59] <Lego_Dan> quit
[17:59] <Mean_Admin> so I want to make a script that (amongst other things) kills a ssh tunnel.. is there a /etc/init.d/ssh_client restart thing I can use ?
[17:59] <lantjie> hey guys
[17:59] <conficker_> hello world...!!
[18:00] <pablo__> hello, how do i do to mount an ext4 partition in an old system, cannot i ?
[18:00] <lantjie> hello
[18:00] <shadeslayer> :O
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: theres /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[18:00] <dayo> !welcome | conficker_
[18:00] <jercos> jrib: eh? of course I have, but I'm somewhat unrelated. just popped in to deposit two cents
[18:00] <shadeslayer> conficker_: u cant spread here :P
[18:00] <abhra> how to convert .lit into .prc?
[18:00] <AntiNeko> vigo: Hmm! My USB headset is not in the ALSA supported card-section.
[18:00] <jrib> jercos: heh, same...
[18:01] <ghindo> conficker_: Nooooooo
[18:01] <Lego> ok.
[18:01] <jercos> lol
[18:01] <vigo> AntiNeko: Uhm, erm, forums? USB?
[18:01] <nvstp1> pablo__: I think you need to re-build the kernel to support ext4 filesystem
[18:01] <DSpair> Lego_Dan, How'd the install go?
[18:02] <Mean_Admin> ActionParsnip: that's for ssh daemon, nein ?
[18:02] <lantjie> pablo_: mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/(your_drive_name) then mount it to a folder. its like this:mount -t ntfs-g3 /dev/sda1 /media/mountfolder
[18:02] <jercos> pablo__: if you don't want to muck around updating your kernel and just want to get at some data you could compile User Mode Linux from recent sources and mount the disk inside that.
[18:02] <little_unix> all! I have got a ethernet adapter USB rj45, this is work fine?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: yeah
[18:02] <dougl> is it possible to have X gui running on my 8.04 for a user on my 8.10 box?
[18:03] <jercos> lantjie: ntfs-3g is related to ext4 how?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Mean_Admin: you could have a command to run: killall <something>
[18:03] <DSpair> dougl, Probably, but we'll need more details to be sure.
[18:03] <Mean_Admin> ActionParsnip: right
[18:03] <AntiNeko> vigo: This is too complicated for me. I've installed and uninstalled too much stuff in my quest to get the microphone on my USB headset to work.
[18:03] <salvatore_> ciao
[18:03] <AntiNeko> vigo: What about the restore stuff you were talking about?
[18:03] <dougl> DSpair, thanks - what is that called? ie what should I google for?
[18:04] <DSpair> dougl, Nothing, remote GUI is built into X Windows.
[18:04] <dougl> DSpair, hmm... thanks :)
[18:04] <DSpair> dougl, All you have to do is set your DISPLAY environment variable to the machine where you want the display to show up.
[18:05] <lantjie> jercos: because ext3 is related to ext4.
[18:05] <lantjie> jercos: i had this problem for manytimes
[18:06] <dougl> DSpair, thanks - googling DISPLAY environment
[18:06] <DSpair> dougl, What is it you're trying to accomplish?
[18:06] <janisozaur> i've downloaded firefox 3.5 from launchpad (fta), how can i make it my default browser?
[18:06] <jercos> lantjie: but... never mind.
[18:06] <lianimator> does anyone play liquidwars?
[18:06] <DSpair> janisozaur, Using Gnome?
[18:06] <pablo__> thanks nvstp1 but i think compiling ext4 generated problems on my system , jercos compile User Mode Linux from recent sources , there is something more easy ?
[18:07] <janisozaur> DSpair: yes
[18:07]  * jercos rolls his eyes
[18:07] <dougl> trying to have X display on ubuntu 8.04 box for user logged in on 8.10 box
[18:07] <jercos> I think I lost IQ points from idling here :(
[18:07] <DSpair> janisozaur, Go to "System->Preferences->Preferred Applications"
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> janisozaur: sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[18:07] <pablo__> !jercos iq
[18:07] <pablo__> 220
[18:07] <pablo__> O.O
[18:07] <DSpair> dougl, So you want the applications to run on the 8.10 box but you want the display on the 8.04 box?
[18:08] <dougl> DSpair, exactly
[18:08] <ghang> hi , i would like to know , where is pidgin plugin folder path
[18:08] <lantjie> pablo:The ext4 filesystem is backward compatible with ext3 and ext2, making it possible to mount ext3 and ext2 filesystems as ext4
[18:08] <Nasra> I have a question regarding firestarter package....do I really firewall installed in my computer or not and if so is not ...how do I remove it?
[18:08] <DSpair> OK, for the 8.04 box, open a terminal. SSH to the 8.10 box with "ssh -X -C <user>@<host>"
[18:08] <pablo__> [lantjie] but i want to use ext4 in ext3, not ext3 in ext4
[18:09] <DSpair> dougl, Then, once you have opened the SSH session, and graphical applications you start in the SSH terminal will be displayed on the 8.04 machine.
[18:09] <pablo__> i have to many gigas in ext4
[18:09] <AntiNeko> vigo: Found something here...
[18:09] <Nasra> what is command for remove a program?
[18:09] <Nasra> thanks
[18:09] <lantjie> ghang: it's in your home folder
[18:09] <DSpair> dougl, If you want to provide a complete desktop environment from the 8.10 box, you'll want to look into XDMCP
[18:09] <rkvirani> Quick question, what packages do I need for 32-bit compatibility?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Nasra: you have ip tables installed already, if you are behind a router its not hugely essential, depends how security scared you are
[18:09] <vigo> AntiNeko: On the forums?
[18:09] <rkvirani> I tried googling but nothing
[18:10] <grawity> Nasra: apt-get remove packagename
[18:10] <wenko> help! how do I get conficker off my Ubuntu box
[18:10] <Nasra> yes  I have a router
[18:10] <Nasra> behind it
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rkvirani: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[18:10] <dougl> DSpair, VERY helpful = thanks very much...
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Nasra: you should be ok
[18:10] <lantjie> pablo_:ext4 can also be used with ext3 and ext2, such as the new block allocation algorithm.
[18:10] <ghang> lantjie  : i can't find it , i just wanna add a lib into the plugin folder
[18:10] <DSpair> dougl, No problem.
[18:10]  * dougl is googling XDMCP
[18:10] <Nasra> okay thanks alot ActionParsnip | grawity:
[18:10] <Nasra> thanks
[18:10] <lantjie> ghang:it's hidden
[18:10] <AntiNeko> vigo: I wrote in the forums about my probb a while back but no replies yet. I found something on that article you sent. I just gotta be patient here. "configuring default soundcards"
[18:11] <pablo__> [lantjie] ok that is what i want, but i cannot in a fresh 8.10 install
[18:11] <rkvirani> ActionParsnip: thanks bud!
[18:11] <ghang> lantjie:  there is no .pidgin , what is the folder name
[18:11] <janisozaur> DSpair, ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ghang: shoulddddddbe ~/.purpe
[18:11] <DSpair> janisozaur, No problem.
[18:11] <mrluap> does anyone know how to edit an existing route?
[18:11] <DSpair> mrluap, You cannot in Linux. You have to remove the old route and add the new one.
[18:12] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ah, yes, that seemed like the correct page for me to refer you to.
[18:12] <ghang> thanks , is .purple
[18:12] <Julian> who can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[18:12] <lantjie> pablo_: ext4 can be mounted as an ext3 partition (using ext3 as the filesystem type when mounting)
[18:12] <shadymr66> hi allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[18:12] <DSpair> BRB
[18:12] <shadymr66> hi there
[18:13] <shadymr66> please any one help me
[18:13] <shadymr66> to adjust my wireless on ubuntu
[18:13] <lantjie> ghang: do this in your terminal: locate pidgin. and you will find it i promise
[18:13] <shadymr66> you you you
[18:14] <Julian> how can i configure my bluetooth in ubuntu 8.10 x64?
[18:14] <Ztripez> hi, i bought myself a usb-pen drive.. now i want to use it as a hardkey to my luks-partitions.. aka must have the pendrive in a usb port when i boot up for the drives to mount.. anyone know any good docs on how to do this?
[18:15] <lantjie> shadymr66: do iwconfig in your terminal and look what name your wireless card has and then do ifconfig name up
[18:17] <AntiNeko> vigo: It's opening a file in a Terminal which I can edit, like a text-file, but how do I save it?
[18:17] <lantjie> hey guys i need some advise. is java good to program with
[18:17] <lantjie> ?
[18:19] <recv-exec> helo
[18:19] <ghindo> !hello | recv-exec
[18:19] <Steven3k> hi, does someone know which programs are included in initrd image? i need to run a script in initrd and i'm wondering which ones I can use
[18:20] <debsan> lantjie, it depends on what you want to program. but yes, its good and easy.
[18:20] <nvstp1> busybox is in initrd
[18:20] <lantjie> debson:i want to make programs.
[18:21] <nvstp1> Steven3k, the commands you can use in initrd are supported by busybox
[18:21] <Steven3k> nvstp1, thanks. no other binaries are included by default?
[18:21] <rkvirani> Whats that command to bring up the ubuntu-server installer?
[18:22] <lantjie> hey the guy who is looking for initrd read this first.http://ww2.cs.fsu.edu/~rosentha/linux/2.6.26.5/docs/initrd.txt
[18:22] <genii> rkvirani: Something like: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[18:23] <rkvirani> genli, eah tasksel I think I will check it out
[18:23] <nvstp1> Steven3k, yes, they are linked to busybox
[18:23] <LargePrime> nvstp1: thanks my wireless card works now
[18:23] <Steven3k> nvstp1, ok :) thank you. I don't really need anything else, just wondering ^^
[18:23] <cemc> anybody here any experience with thermal zones and powersaved on a HP 8510p notebook ?
[18:24] <nvstp1> LargePrime, not at all
[18:24] <LargePrime> nvstp1: no.  it works completely LOLz
[18:24] <vigo> AntiNeko:Use nano or something like it
[18:25] <nvstp1> LargePrime: :)
[18:25] <scunizi> any scribus fans? I got a question. How do I line up the left edge of 3 identical vertically stacked shapes?
[18:25] <LargePrime> ok anyone have a list of "Must Have" addons to ubuntu.  (8.04 lts)
[18:26] <scunizi> LargePrime: irssi for IRC on the terminal or TTY for when the gui won't start and you need help
[18:26] <DSpair> LargePrime, There was a good article on WirksWithU.com this week about that exact topic.
[18:26] <DSpair> s/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/
[18:26] <AntiNeko> vigo: It's all messed up. It don't care what I change, it's still playing through the speakers and not the headset.
[18:27] <n3rd4i> how can i use LINK's as int WINDOWS XP shortcuts ?
[18:27] <DSpair> n3rd4i, You can't. Windows doesn't do soft links.
[18:27] <LargePrime> irssi is better than pidgin for irc?
[18:28] <n3rd4i> well i want to get the same thing as in WINODWS when i do LINK to as spec file
[18:28] <nvstp1> n3rd4i, you can use command "ln"
[18:28] <n3rd4i> with ABSOLUTE path
[18:28] <DSpair> n3rd4i, The closest Linux alternative in Linux is the ".desktop" files which are application/file launchers.
[18:28] <n3rd4i> what LN does?
[18:28] <scunizi> LargePrime: most anything is better then pidgin.. pidgin is a great IM client but not an IRC client.. irssi works great and for the gui xchat
[18:28] <AntiNeko> Is there any way to restore sound settings and packages to default?
[18:28] <jrib> n3rd4i: you want a symlink (ln -s TARGET NAME).  symlinks are better than window's shortcuts
[18:28] <grawity> jrib: not always.
[18:28] <LargePrime> DSpair:  ﻿WirksWithU DNE
[18:28]  * grawity wishes XP had symlinks
[18:28] <DSpair> s/WirksWithU.com/WorksWithU.com/
[18:29] <DSpair> LargePrime, I mistyped. It's WorksWithU.com
[18:29] <n3rd4i> well i want to put the LINK in a directory who is in ABSOLUTE PATH and just type the name wherever i am
[18:29] <LargePrime> is irssi in the repo?  (look at me using lingo and such)
[18:29] <n3rd4i> in the command line relative path
[18:29] <grawity> LargePrime: yes.
[18:29] <n3rd4i> its possbile that?
[18:29] <jrib> DSpair: yes, so create a symlink...
[18:29] <Nasra> stupid question : my web browser dissaperead.....how do bring it back?
[18:29] <scunizi> LargePrime: yep..
[18:29] <scunizi> LargePrime: so's xchat.. but don't get xchat-gnome.. yic
[18:30] <DSpair> LargePrime, You can always search the repo from aptitude by typing "aptitude search irssi" and it will show you matching items.
[18:30] <nvstp1> Just find it back ^^
[18:30] <LargePrime> ok away i go to get irssi and the stuf on workswithu
[18:30] <DSpair> scunizi, I concur... Xchat-gnome sux0rs.
[18:31] <vigo> AntiNeko: Test the headphones on another doohicky?
[18:31] <edward_> hi
[18:31] <DSpair> Hello edward_
[18:31] <jrib> s/DSpair/n3rd4i
[18:31] <LargePrime> anyone disagree with this list http://www.workswithu.com/2009/03/25/five-essential-ubuntu-modifications/
[18:31] <edward_> hi dspair
[18:31] <AntiNeko> vigo: Works with Win
[18:31] <edward_> im new here
[18:32] <DSpair> edward_, So are a lot of people. Welcome. Got a question?
[18:32] <AntiNeko> vigo: Worked with Rhythmbox and Totem but not any more. Now Rhythmbox won't find the gstreamer-plugins
[18:32] <nvstp1> Welcome!
[18:32] <edward_> not really
[18:32] <rickest> LargePrime: context matters, there are no stock answers for your questions
[18:32] <edward_> well
[18:32] <edward_> yes
[18:32] <vigo> AntiNeko: Ok, then it is a bug report that should be sent to launchpad. methinks.
[18:32] <DSpair> edward_, Shoot...
[18:33] <sl00> Hi. Where can I find this tool or a similar tool? http://www.deesaster.org/progxorg.php
[18:33] <edward_> my question is... if here we can speak about ubuntu system
[18:33] <edward_> if i have a question about something
[18:33] <LargePrime> rickest: i understand.  but asking open questions leads to learning dialog.  i , unlike many, do not desire stock answers.
[18:33] <sl00> I always have tourble with the videocards when I run Ubuntu and the "built-in" screen-resolution utility is not really that good since the display is to small to show the whole window :(
[18:33] <scunizi> edward_: technical assistance questions are welcome here..
[18:33] <nvstp> You can welcome to ask any question
[18:33] <edward_> like... y i become a error log or something like that
[18:33] <edward_> oohh ok
[18:34] <rickest> LargePrime: what should I have for dinner tonight?
[18:34] <vigo> AntiNeko: Do you have a backup disk from when it did work?
[18:34] <DSpair> sl00, There's a tool for that built-in to Ubuntu under Preferences in the "System" menu
[18:34] <LargePrime> rickest: what do you enjoy?
[18:34] <edward_> it´s grat to know... maybe i can have a lot of questions...
[18:34] <edward_> but there r too many errors on my system hehehe
[18:34] <sl00> DSpair: Which I just mentioned. I cannot use it because the window goes outside my screen!
[18:34] <DSpair> edward_, One at a time.
[18:34] <rickest> LargePrime: exactly.  what do you want to do with your machine?  kiosk, development, media player, file server, etc.  'context matters' covers all that
[18:34] <nvstp> Just one by one
[18:34] <duffer> sudo
[18:34] <DSpair> sl00, OH!!!
[18:35] <LargePrime> rickest:  see how we got to more learning?  dev and media
[18:35] <edward_> well...
[18:35] <edward_> hehehe... i introduce my self
[18:35] <DSpair> sl00, Try this. Open a run dialog by pressing "<ALT>+<F2>". In the run dialog try typing "xrandr --auto"
[18:35] <edward_> my english is not so great
[18:35] <edward_> i dont know english it all
[18:35] <DSpair> edward_, Practice makes perfect.
[18:35] <PerryArmstrong> is it advisable to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[18:35] <edward_> heheh
[18:35] <edward_> where r u from?
[18:36] <rickest> LargePrime: if you had started with that info you might already have some answers instead of this meaningless conversation explaining how to ask a worthwihle question
[18:36] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Depends on what type of system. For servers, probably not.
[18:36] <rickest> LargePrime: liver pate and asparagus spears, btw
[18:36] <Flannel> edward_: For general chat questions, we have #ubuntu-offtopic.  This is just for support topics.  Thanks.
[18:36] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, My advice is NO!
[18:36] <DSpair> edward_, Indiana, USA
[18:36] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; not a server.....
[18:36] <LargePrime> rickest:  i might not have know what my options were.  but i take your point.
[18:36] <edward_> ahh ok
[18:36] <edward_> great
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; not for server
[18:37] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Then it's probably a good idea. 8.10 introduced a lot uf enhancements which make life much nicer.
[18:37] <LargePrime> rickest: on a diet?
[18:37] <sl00> DSpair: Okey? Nothing happened what I could see.
[18:37] <rickest> LargePrime: no, those are my favorites   :-)
[18:37] <DSpair> sl00, Hrrrmmmm . . . . Old monitor?
[18:37] <edward_> i have a question...
[18:37] <edward_> i have php, mysql
[18:37] <LargePrime> rickest:  why not have them then?
[18:37] <Nasra> Is there a quick way to recover  your web address ( URL ) on firefox <-----typing www.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed tyhem
[18:37] <sl00> DSpair: No. not at all. None of my components are older than 1 year.
[18:37] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them
[18:37] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, You can have a try, but there may be some problem
[18:37] <edward_> n a friend tell me that my kubuntu is not ok... cuz all that programs r running on tmp
[18:38] <jrib> Nasra: recover?  is ctrl-l what you want?
[18:38] <edward_> /tmp/
[18:38] <Nasra> perhaps setting up to default/...
[18:38] <Nasra> Jrib: thanks
[18:38] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i previously installed it and found many bugs and it couldn't get my screensaver right...so i guess they might have fixed them
[18:38] <DSpair> sl00, xrandr should automatically configure your session to the optimal settings based on what it detects about your video card and monitor
[18:38] <rickest> LargePrime: I think I shall.  Now if I could only figure out what good it did to ask the room what I should eat tonight
[18:39] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Many bugs with the 8.01 version?
[18:39] <sl00> DSpair: Thing is I have this same problem on ALL computers I have tried. I end up with a resolution at 720 x Something. One time I installed using Safe-mode then I atleast got 1024x768.
[18:39] <DSpair> edward_, You mean that they are storing session information in "/tmp"?
[18:39] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ?
[18:39] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; you mean they are still existing
[18:39] <LargePrime> rickest: sharing is caring?
[18:39] <rickest> LargePrime: for dev, you might like Eclipse.  to me, it's bloated but some like it, esp java dev I guess.  You already use vim or emacs?
[18:39] <sl00> DSpair: Yes but it seems it can never detect my videocards ranging from Intel -> Nvidia.
[18:39] <rickest> LargePrime: as long as it makes us feel good, I suppose so
[18:39] <edward_> mm.... i will look for that word on the dictionary... i can speak german or spanish or portuguese...
[18:39] <DSpair> sl00, Very strange. I have never seen that happen on Ubuntu.
[18:39] <edward_> wait just a second
[18:40] <LargePrime> rickest: mostly only used MS stuff before
[18:40] <rickest> LargePrime: for media, VLC (player) and amarok (bittorrent client) or deluge.  there are many others, perhaps Google will help now that you have those names
[18:40] <DSpair> Ich spreche sie deutche nicht.
[18:40] <nvstp> PerryArmstron, I think there should not be so many bugs
[18:40] <DSpair> Hablo espanol pequeno
[18:40] <edward_> ja ich kann das sehen... aber es ist kein problem
[18:40] <edward_> si?
[18:40] <rickest> LargePrime: another good Google search: site:reddit.com essential linux  (or site:digg.com)
[18:40] <olskolirc> hey guys how do i make mp3blaster play continuously without my picking the next song please?
[18:40] <edward_> hablas espanhol?
[18:41] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; so not advisable installing??
[18:41] <DSpair> edward_, asi asi.
[18:41] <_ruben> !english
[18:41] <_ruben> !spanish
[18:41] <scunizi> !es | edward_
[18:41] <rickest> LargePrime: apt-get install build-essential     # google that for why a dev would want to run that
[18:41] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, I think your system may be broken, your upgrading to 8.10 cannot resove these problems
[18:41] <DSpair> !german
[18:41] <edward_> well maybe i gotta see u agein
[18:42] <edward_> again
[18:42] <Nasra> Jrib: it was the navigation toolbar needed back
[18:42] <edward_> first i deleted all fils of tmp-.... it was a error... a mistake
[18:42] <jjjj5555> is ubuntu 9.04 already out=
[18:42] <jjjj5555> =
[18:42] <jjjj5555> ?
[18:42] <Nasra> Ctrl-I what is does is open another window....(kind of double panes sort of speak)....thanks
[18:42] <Nasra> gotta bakc
[18:42] <Nasra> back
[18:42] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; no i think you didnt get what i said...i used 8.04....then when 8.10 got out i installed it..and i found that it had bugs and i couldn't use it...so i reintalled 8.04 and i m planning to upgrade now to 8.10 if its good
[18:43] <edward_> than... i was always staring my computer... con strgn n... konsole
[18:43] <sl00> DSpair: Very annoying. Same thing with Fedora. My videocards are not even anything special. This current one is a VIA S3 and other ones have been Intel GMA and Nvidia Geforce.
[18:43] <edward_> than... sudo xinit... than sudo plasma;sudo kwin
[18:43] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Oh, Now I see
[18:43] <edward_> now i have gnome. xface, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox... kde...
[18:43] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; so what do you say...upgrade...
[18:43] <edward_> on my system
[18:43] <DSpair> sl00, I cannot begin to tell you without more info. Have you tried to run "X -configure" from the console?
[18:44] <raulherbster> hi, is there a standard solution to create ubuntu installers (such as NSIS for windows)?
[18:44] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, I think both of them are good, it depends on your administration on them
[18:44] <edward_> now... it works... cuz i changed the permissions of tmp
[18:44] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i can't reinstall 8.04 as of now if there will be problems with 8.10
[18:44] <DSpair> raulherbster, Yep, it's called a debian package.
[18:44] <edward_> n i changed the permissions of .iceauthority
[18:45] <DSpair> edward_, What does it say in /etc/passwd for your user?
[18:45] <edward_> n when i do something on var/www
[18:45] <jjjj5555> how can I really speed up my system? it seems so slow on a P4 2.4 ghz and 1gb ram
[18:45] <edward_> ??? what?
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: =O
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: Works great here.
[18:45] <edward_> for my user
[18:45] <edward_> for example
[18:45] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, your upgrading means reinstall or upgrade from 8.04?
[18:45] <nathan7> jjjj5555: On P4 too.
[18:45] <edward_> whan i wanted go to gnome
[18:45] <raulherbster> DSpair, I know.. but I mean, with user iteration... he can set installation folder, for example
[18:45] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; upgrading from 8.04
[18:46] <DSpair> edward_, The /etc/passwd file has the information which tells Linux where your home directory is located. I am wondering if it set incorrectly.
[18:46] <sl00> DSpair: Yes but it does not let me do anything.
[18:46] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, you may have a try
[18:46] <sl00> DSpair: Just text flashing by...
[18:46] <edward_> i cannot in the past...
[18:46] <edward_> work on my desktops
[18:46] <DSpair> sl00, True, it outputs a config file in your home directory. You should try that config in place of your current one.
[18:46] <edward_> ..... n i did the updates
[18:46] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, but I advise that you can make a new install of 8.10
[18:46] <edward_> but
[18:47] <edward_> is always a crash ding
[18:47] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; why a new install??
[18:47] <DSpair> edward_, I think that the language barrier is going to be too difficult. Please try the German channel #ubuntu-de
[18:47] <badfish69> is it possible for me to set up a secure ftp server with ubuntu intrepid desktop edition?
[18:48] <thopiekar> hi.. I really would like to install enlightenments python-bindings but the repo I wanted to install from is offline: http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/http://greenie.sk/ubuntu/ ... is there another repo I can use on ubuntu?
[18:48] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, it is not so stable of upgrade
[18:48] <edward_> mm ok
[18:48] <edward_> how can i change the channel?
[18:48] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; but then i may lose my data..if i install
[18:48] <edward_> :$
[18:48] <jjjj5555> nathan7: did you make any tweaks?
[18:48] <DSpair> edward_, I wish you luck!
[18:48] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, is your home directionary a independed part?
[18:49] <DSpair> nvstp, No, because nobody does that.
[18:49] <freelanceweb> ActionParsnip : Can you tell  me again my two options for upgrading my openSSH?
[18:49] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; i didnt get that question..didnt understand
[18:49] <DSpair> nvstp, Only old school geeks like me ever put the home dir on a seperate partition.
[18:49] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, what is your partition table?
[18:49] <edward_> thanks
[18:49] <edward_> :D
[18:49] <jjjj5555> what is the correct place to install a program to, if it has no installer but just a java .jar file that has to be executed
[18:50] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, you can give the result of "df"
[18:50] <edward_> please to meet u
[18:50] <DSpair> jjjj5555, Probably /usr/local/bin
[18:50] <sl00> DSpair: Nothing happened really. Same resolution. Only difference is that gnome did not start at all. Just a grey background and a X mouse pointer.
[18:50] <DSpair> sl00, Hrrmmm . . . Sucky.
[18:50] <freelanceweb> I am trying to get openSSH 5.1 on my 7.10 box. How do I go about that?
[18:51] <sl00> DSpair: If I read the xorg.conf.new it craeted it seems to select the "openchrome" driver for my card. Seems correct since it is a VIA S3 UniChrome
[18:51] <DSpair> sl00, Try renaming your X config file to something else and not having an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on the system and restart X. Then bulletproof X should try to start up with sane defaults.
[18:51] <nvstp>  DSpair, I think make a seperate parttion for home to put data is a good
[18:51] <madalin> hello
[18:51] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; http://pastebin.com/m5f9efe7e
[18:52] <kaiden> Any Synergy users here? I connect from Ubuntu 9.04 (Client) to Windows (Host) for my mouse / keyboard. When I move my mouse over the mouse hits that computer and sticks in the upper left hand corner. Keyboard works fine. Mouse clicks work fine but the mouse never moves. Any ideas?
[18:52] <DSpair> nvstp, It probably is a good thing, but nobody every teaches that to newbs.
[18:52] <DSpair> s/every/ever/
[18:52] <madalin> can anyone help me install a Winfast TV 2100 ? I've only found tutorials and such that relate to TV 2000..
[18:52] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know how i would make kdm start after rc.local ? (lower rc.locals run level or increase kdms run level ) ?
[18:53] <DSpair> nvstp, So, they end up with a single partition for "/" (the default for Ubuntu).
[18:53] <sl00> DSpair: How do I find out which config it uses when I jsut type startx then?
[18:53] <sl00> DSpair: I have renamed the one in /etc/X11
[18:53] <LjL> Mr_Molez: uhm, that would likely result in losing upstart's asynchronous capabilities - in plain english, very much increased boot time
[18:53] <dto> hi. anyone here with experience with psubuntu? it hangs on booting after a line about USB bus being deregistered
[18:53] <LargePrime> I reallly like ubuntu.  so i got irssi from the repo and installed.  how come it has not shown up in applications?
[18:53] <dto> during the install process
[18:54] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, even so, you can only choose to upgrade to 8.10 now
[18:54] <LjL> Mr_Molez: anyway, it would involve using "update-rc.d" to change the properties of the /etc/init.d/rc.local script
[18:54] <DSpair> sl00, X will almost always only use /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:54] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; why wat happened now??
[18:54] <sl00> DSpair: Hmm okey. I tried 'startx' and it looks the same :(
[18:54] <madalin> anyone can provide a link on how i could install a Winfast TV 2100 ?
[18:54] <LjL> Mr_Molez: actually, i think i just said nonsense - more likely you'd have to add a dependency on rc.local into /etc/init.d/kdm
[18:54] <Mr_Molez> LjL: thanks.. I noticed kdm is set at 01, could i move rc.local to anything lower than 01, is there anything lower than 01?
[18:55] <sl00> DSpair: There is no new corg.conf in /etc/X11 either.
[18:55] <sl00> xorg*
[18:55] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, Because you only have on partition for Linux, and you don't want lost your data, so ...
[18:55] <LjL> Mr_Molez: i'm not very sure but i don't think upstart really cares about those numbers anymore... adding a dependency on the other hand should work, i suppose
[18:55] <hbekel> sl00: /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells you what config file (if any) is being used
[18:55] <sl00> hbekel: Okey
[18:55] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip; will things be safe??
[18:56] <DSpair> sl00: Tell you what. Sign on as "root" or use "sudo" to run "lspci -vv" and capture the output and put it on pastebin.
[18:56] <Mr_Molez> LjL: so i could just add what i have in rc.local to /etc/init.d then sleep 1 before the kdm stuff?
[18:56] <nvstp>  DSpair, Yes, I have found most pople do so, but I think this is too bad
[18:56] <LjL> Mr_Molez: err, that's not what i meant
[18:56] <Mr_Molez> LjL: but would that work ;)
[18:56] <LjL> Mr_Molez: i don't think so
[18:57] <DSpair> nvstp, I understand the reasoning perfectly. What should be done then is that the Ubuntu installer should default to creating a separate partition for "/home"
[18:57] <LjL> Mr_Molez: just edit kdm and add a dependency on rc.local
[18:57] <sl00> DSpair: I do not thing I can access internet using that computer :(
[18:57] <edward_> dspair... im now on the channel of germany... they r nit being really freindly
[18:57] <Mr_Molez> LjL: ok thanks :)
[18:57] <LjL> Mr_Molez: out of curiosity, why do you want to do that anyway?
[18:57] <sl00> DSpair: Xorg.0.0log says Unable to locateopen config file using defaults.
[18:57] <Dreamglider> the ubuntuforum is playing a pink prank or what ?
[18:57] <Mr_Molez> LjL: i need to unload some modules and reload them before X starts
[18:57] <nvstp>  DSpair: I agree!
[18:58] <DSpair> sl00, As it should. Try copying the files to a disk or thumb drive and then upload them.
[18:58] <LjL> Mr_Molez: ugh, ugly
[18:58] <DSpair> edward_, Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
[18:58] <Mr_Molez> LjL: hehe
[18:58] <nvstp> Good night every one:)
[18:58] <Dreamglider> gn
[18:58] <DSpair> G'nite nvstp
[18:58] <linduxed> is there a page on which i can see the progress of packages that are not stable?
[18:58] <LargePrime> what does ths mean?
[18:58] <LargePrime> Msttcorefonts uses the DEbian FOnt MAnager (defoma). If you wish to use the fonts provided by this package under the X Window System, you must configure it to use defoma fonts.
[18:58] <LargePrime> The easiest way to do so is to use the x-ttcidfont-conf package. For more information, install the x-ttcidfont-conf package and consult its documentation under /usr/share/doc/x-ttcidfont-conf.
[18:58] <LargePrime> For uses of msttcorefonts not related to the X Window System (e.g. printing) this is not required.
[18:58] <FloodBot2> LargePrime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <madalin> were could i find help to my Tv Tuner Winfast 2100 ?
[18:58] <LjL> Mr_Molez: you could also erm, just do that inside the kdm script
[18:58] <PerryArmstrong> nvsip??
[18:59] <Mr_Molez> LjL: isn't that what I just asked :P lol
[18:59] <LjL> linduxed: what do you mean "packages that are not stable"?
[18:59] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; so you say upgrading is not advisable??
[18:59] <LjL> Mr_Molez: to me it sounded like you wanted to use sleep to "ensure" that X would wait
[18:59] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, No, I said exactly the opposite
[18:59] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, yes?
[18:59] <Mr_Molez> LjL: ohhh... it will not ?
[19:00] <jeffrey_> hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?
[19:00] <unop> LargePrime, it means if you want to use windows TTF fonts on linux .. install the x-ttcidfont-conf package. you don't have to do this if you want to be able to print with those fonts.
[19:00] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; okk fine then....i shall upgrade...nvsip..i am gonna upgrade
[19:00] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Just open your /etc/apt/source.list file and change all of the instances of "hardy" to "intrepid"; run "aptitude update", and then run "aptitude dist-upgrade"
[19:00] <LjL> Mr_Molez: not if you put your module commands in rc.local, and put a sleep instruction in kdm
[19:00] <LjL> Mr_Molez: but if you just put your module commands in kdm before it starts X, it should work
[19:00] <jeffrey_> I am looking for a way to extend my wireless connection and it appears the best way to do that is buy a card/usb wireless device w/ extended range
[19:00] <Mr_Molez> LjL: oh i see, well I meant put it all in the kdm script like you just said, okay I will do that, thanks alot :)
[19:00] <nvstp> PerryArmstrong, OK. Good luck
[19:00] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Sorry, typo, thats /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:01] <LjL> Mr_Molez: well then i don't think a "sleep" would be needed at all, but what do i know
[19:01] <LargePrime> unop: install that package to view them?  but i can print them without the package?
[19:01] <PerryArmstrong> DSpair; you mean replace all names of hardy to intrepid??
[19:01] <DSpair> PerryArmstrong, Yep
[19:01] <linduxed> LjL: for instance, clamav is in the version 0.94yaddayadda-ubuntu, but 0.95 without the yaddayadda-ubuntu is out. my guess was that the 0.95 package has been submitted to the devs so they can test it so that it sooner or later can be moved into the repos
[19:01] <Mr_Molez> LjL: I just want to make sure it has time to do its dirty business before X starts hehe
[19:01] <jeffrey_> hey does anyone know of any good wireless extenders that work weill with ubuntu?
[19:01] <LjL> linduxed: not really
[19:01] <LjL> !latest | linduxed
[19:01] <unop> LargePrime, well, it's actually, install the package to setup those fonts for use within X (to be able to display them) .. and no, you don't need this package to use the fonts in printing.
[19:02] <linduxed> LjL: i also assumed there was a page where the progress on that process was displayed
[19:02] <DSpair> jeffrey_, They should all work fine with Linux. Wireless extenders are dumb devices.
[19:02] <bogat> What program is normaly used to make presentation in Ubuntu? (something like powerpoint)
[19:02] <LjL> linduxed: new version of stuff is simply *not* added to the repositories, unless it involves important bug fixes. you only other venue is Backports
[19:02] <baldurpet> I think I've found a small error in the Ubuntu 9.04 beta
[19:02] <LargePrime> unop: if i open a doc that uses them what will i see?
[19:02] <LjL> bogat: openoffice?
[19:03] <Sooke> Anybody using iPhone with Amarok?
[19:03] <LjL> baldurpet: Jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:03] <baldurpet> ah thank you
[19:03] <baldurpet> didn't know that
[19:03] <unop> LargePrime, those fonts - as you'd expect.
[19:03] <sl00> DSpair: Hmm.. I does not seem to find the usbstick. *sigh*
[19:03] <Xiaofei> hi
[19:03] <vigo> baldurpet: join #ubuntu+1
[19:04] <LargePrime> unop: i dont mean to be thick, but if i can see them without the package why do i need the package?
[19:04] <linduxed> LjL: ok, but is there som info/progress-on-packages page on backports?
[19:05] <unop> LargePrime, maybe you already have defoma installed and configured?? that's why you can see them..
[19:05] <LjL> linduxed: before they actually get added to the repos, you can follow the launchpad report about them. please /msg ubottu !backports for more info
[19:05] <nood> hi all
[19:05]  * grawity greets nood.
[19:05] <nood> can i emulate Conficker with wine?
[19:05] <LjL> ...
[19:05] <nood> XD
[19:06] <Mr_Molez> LjL: that worked, thanks :)
[19:06] <sl00> DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m38658be3
[19:06] <LjL> Mr_Molez: just keep in mind that the day kdm gets an update, you'll probably be asked whether you want to use the new version or your custom version of the config file
[19:07] <LargePrime> unop: i do not know that i have anything installed or that i CAN see them.  I just wondered what i would see it i did not install the x-ttcdifont package
[19:07] <LjL> Mr_Molez: (in which case i'd recommend using the new version and re-adding the custom stuff later)
[19:07] <Mr_Molez> LjL: yeah it's not alot to add, i just hope I remember :), catch you later thanks
[19:07] <sl00> DSpair: http://pastebin.com/m11dc6b24  <-- xorg.conf.new
[19:08] <Lint01> how can I add Jaunty repositories to Intrepid?
[19:08] <Mean_Admin> can I do something like           sudo killall "ssh -L" to kill all ssh tunnels ?
[19:08] <unop> LargePrime, not sure .. but I have a suspicion that if you installed the debian/ubuntu msttcorefonts package - everything should be configured for you. don't quote me on this tho.
[19:08] <LjL> Lint01: you can't, unless you want to destroy your system
[19:08] <LjL> !jaunty > Lint01    (Lint01, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:09] <unop> Mean_Admin, I don't see that working .. unless you have processes actually named "ssh -L"
[19:09] <LargePrime> unop: it was the installation of that, that caused the warning above.
[19:09] <Lint01> !jaunty
[19:09] <linduxed> LjL: well thx for the launchpad tip then
[19:09] <Mean_Admin> unop: well when I   ps aux | grep ssh, stuff comes up but I really wanna target "ssh user@server -L port:host:port"
[19:09] <LiteShade> //quit
[19:10] <clearscreen> I wonder why ubuntu devs dont just ship packages like ubuntu-restricted-extras, proprietary(closed-source) drivers, msttcorefonts, etc by default in linux installations... I'm guessing 90%+ of the people installing ubuntu will end up wanting those packages anyway
[19:10] <unop> Mean_Admin,   maybe something like.   ps aux | awk '/ssh user@server \-L port:host:port/{print $2}' | xargs killall
[19:11] <hatter243> clearscreen, because they're not open source.
[19:11] <clearscreen> There isnt any legislation prohibiting them from doing that, is there?
[19:11] <clearscreen> hatter243: irrelevant
[19:11] <Mean_Admin> unop: half of that command is lost on me (but I get the idea)
[19:11] <aero1234> I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?
[19:11] <Mean_Admin> br
[19:12] <hatter243> clearscreen, it is not irrelevant. They're easy to install should you want it, but if I want an open source system I do not want one that automatically installs closed source software on my system
[19:12] <clearscreen> as long as open-source alternatives to closed-source applications are inferior, I dont see any reason to not ship closed-source apps by default
[19:12] <LargePrime> All hail the mighty U.  it warned me i needed a package and then went and installed the needed package automagically.
[19:12] <clearscreen> hatter243: why not?
[19:12] <ikonia> LargePrime: ?
[19:12] <Andurino> hello
[19:12] <clearscreen> that's putting ideals before usability
[19:12] <hatter243> clearscreen, I want to be able to modify anything that I want to. I want to be able to examine the code and be sure that it's not calling mommy and talking about me behind my back
[19:13] <LargePrime> ikonia: i was just remarking on the coolness of ubuntu
[19:13] <Andurino> any speak spanish?
[19:13] <hatter243> !spanish | Andurino
[19:13] <vigo> !es
[19:13] <ikonia> Andurino: #ubuntu-es has lots of people that do
[19:13] <Andurino> thanks
[19:13] <clearscreen> hatter243: I was talking about the majority of ubuntu users ;) and nothing is stopping you from uninstalling them after getting into your installation.. heck, I bet you're currently using proprietary video drivers
[19:15] <clearscreen> I can assure you that at least 99% of the people using ubuntu won't be digging through xorg's nv code to find if the authors have hidden any keyloggers
[19:16] <clearscreen> oh well
[19:16] <LjL> !offtopic
[19:16] <vigo> Thank you
[19:17] <jatt> (OT: was youtube hacked?)
[19:17] <clearscreen> april fools
[19:17] <LjL> jatt: see just above
[19:17] <tvon> 4/1
[19:17] <tvon> most suckassed day on the internet
[19:18] <jatt> I see. Not funny but maybe is just me :).
[19:18] <Dreamglider> can i get my USB GPS receiver to work in ubuntu 8.10, it is listed as  ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port with lsusb
[19:18] <LjL> next offtopic remark earns a little ban
[19:18]  * grawity drinks lemonade
[19:19] <bogat> is there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)
[19:21] <eirik_> anyone here experienced with ddrescue? should it start out thinking of the whole drive as a single large error?
[19:22] <bogat> is there a program for ubuntu that can fight with keynote (mac)
[19:22] <vigo> Dreamglider: There are a number of GPS packages listed in the repositories.
[19:22] <Picassotamus> bogat: figiht with?
[19:22] <vigo> bogat: I am unable to figure out what you mean.
[19:23] <sl00> DSpair: Do you notice anything that is wrong?
[19:23] <ChotaZ> How do I move an entire folder from a place to another in the in terminal?
[19:24] <hbekel> ChotaZ: man mv
[19:24] <lantjie> chotaZ: mv -r
[19:24] <bogat> i mean: program as good as keynote
[19:24] <bogat> for ubuntu
[19:24] <bogat> with the same nice effects
[19:24] <bogat> or better
[19:25] <aero1234> I need to get ubuntu into recovery mode, but it is not in the boot menu ... is there another method to invoke recovery mode?
[19:25] <ChotaZ> sudo mv -r origin destination?
[19:25] <hbekel> lantjie: there's no -r in mv
[19:25] <vigo> bogat: eye candy stuff?
[19:26] <bogat> for example
[19:26] <bogat> yeah
[19:26] <sebsebseb>  
[19:26] <lantjie> hbekel: shit sorry man it's only mv
[19:26] <lantjie> sorry
[19:26] <vigo> bogat: Yes, there are many effects and such that are in the repositories
[19:27] <vigo> Compiz, Desklets, and a bunch of others
[19:27] <erUSUL> aero1234: press "e" when in the menu to edit the boot options ... remove last ones "quiet" and "splash" and replace them with "single" press "b" to boot
[19:28] <jeffrey_> thank you DSpair I did not know
[19:28] <yoasdf> anyone know gdm's default runlevels?
[19:28] <yoasdf> mine are set to 2345S
[19:28] <erUSUL> !runlevels
[19:31] <raven1> guys...who has an experience here on USB CD Booting?
[19:31] <toorima> anyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, kinda like landscape but internal server
[19:31] <Ienorand> raven1: details?
[19:32] <raven1> lenorand...uhm..my BIOS doesnt support USB booting..so im trying the CD Booting for my USB
[19:32] <robertj> I'm rm -rfing a directory in which I own all the files but some of which I don't have write permissions on. I really don't want to have to chown these files in a seperate step, am I missing the elegant solution?
[19:32] <yoasdf> install grub
[19:32] <Ienorand> raven1: using a cd to boot usb?
[19:32] <yoasdf> and boot through grub?
[19:33] <raven1> details please
[19:33] <raven1> yeah lenorand
[19:33] <raven1> yoasdf....how will that work
[19:33] <erUSUL> robertj: the -f option should deal with read only issues
[19:33] <yoasdf> it will boot the usb
[19:33] <yoasdf> that's how i do it on my laptop that dont support usb booting
[19:33] <raven1> really?!
[19:33] <yoasdf> yes
[19:33] <raven1> so what should I do first
[19:34] <yoasdf> edit menu.lst
[19:34] <raven1> did u install your linux to your USB?
[19:34] <yoasdf> yes
[19:34] <raven1> then?
[19:34] <yoasdf> from my usb
[19:34] <raven1> what?!
[19:34] <raven1> from or to your USB?
[19:34] <yoasdf> i installed linux from my usb
[19:34] <raven1> and then?
[19:34] <yoasdf> u need to install grub first
[19:34] <Ienorand> raven1: hmm, you could always try UBCD: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[19:35] <danbhfive> help: Im trying to delete some files off of a USB drive, and its telling me it can't because it is a read only file system
[19:35] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: mount it, and  gksudo nautilus and that will give you access to it as root, but be careful if you use that, because if you delete something that is part of the system for example, that could be bad
[19:35] <raven1> hmmm...is that UBCD safe?
[19:36] <raven1> do you get my situation?
[19:36] <autoup> hi
[19:36] <EeRr> On install Ubuntu does not ask which source address I wish to use. Is this normal (other distros ask)?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> autoup: hi
[19:36] <danbhfive> sebsebseb: I use sudo rm *, and the same error.  I doubt using nautilus would help, but I can try if you think it will
[19:36] <hbekel> danbhfive: mounted ro?
[19:36] <raven1> i have windows xp but i want to install Ubuntu withouth repartitioning my drive so i decided to run ubuntu in my usb..unfortunately, my bios doesnt support USB booting...so what are the ways so i can run Ubuntu?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: sure try  what I said
[19:37] <danbhfive> hbekel: I dunno, it automounted
[19:37] <hbekel> danbhfive: how about you ckeck?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> raven1: why don't you want to partition?
[19:37] <danbhfive> hbekel: how do I check?
[19:37] <toorima> anyone know of some software to manage linux machines? push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but with our own internal server and preferably open source
[19:37] <raven1> i might lose some files...and my os doesnt have a backup
[19:37] <Mean_Admin> :( I'm not getting how to use kill or killall to kill an app having all characters like              killall --matching "ssh -L"
[19:38] <hbekel> danbhfive: type mount in a terminal
[19:38] <obhk___> I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my new netbook; everything worked fine but after updating the packages, I can't connect anymore to the internet?  Can anybody help me sort this out?
[19:38] <danbhfive> hbekel: it looks like  rw: /dev/sdc1 on /media/KINGSTON type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[19:39] <c7m> hi people, i need an advice. Is there any sense to include QoS into kernel?
[19:39] <giaco> hello!
[19:39] <Picassotamus> obhk___: wired or wireless? Error messages?
[19:39] <edoroman> does anyone know anything about making drivers?
[19:39] <c7m> someone definitely does
[19:39] <Ienorand> raven1: I think you should be able to chainload your usb boot loader from the ubuntu livecd, I'm not sure what the commands are though...
[19:40] <madhawie> hello
[19:40] <thom__> hi...
[19:40] <c7m> is there any sense to include QoS into kernel? someone knows?
[19:40] <obhk___> Picassotamus: wired, the network manager just says there's no connection, no specific errors, and I don't really know how to look for them
[19:41] <sisk> hello all
[19:41] <sisk> anyone here
[19:42] <ChotaZ> In amsn, is there any way of seeing your contact's DP in the contact window?
[19:42] <robertj> erUSUL: it doesn't
[19:42] <Picassotamus> obhk___: You can check system->admin->system log for error messages
[19:42] <giaco> I've just upgraded to 9.04! Everything works great but my xorg is eating a lot of cpu power, even w/o firefox opened (actually just with just xchat it eats 12% of my core due T7300). I'd like to ask you if this is a known issue and/or it has a specific name or something! Thank you for your support
[19:42] <robertj> erUSUL: if I don't force it it will prompt me, but even if I say yes it says permission denied
[19:42] <Picassotamus> !jaunty | giaco
[19:43] <thom__> anyone knows, how to solve 'read-only-system' on Flash disk?? It caused by Windows' viruses. So, I cant save my file to it. But, If I attrib it in Windows, then back to my system [ubuntu], it solved. How to solved it in unix-version
[19:43] <giaco> Picassotamus, thank you
[19:43] <Cyc> I'm using ubuntu 8.10 and having problems with panels. Usually i use dual monitors so have 4 panels two on each monitor. However if i boot up with only one monitor the panels dont work, only two load and they are unresponsive. Any ideas how i can solve this?
[19:43] <robertj> and admittedly its r--r------ but I own the thing
[19:44] <mbeierl> thom__: what does "mount" say about the stick?
[19:44] <danbhfive> hbekel: well, I solved it by just reformating.  no idea what was going on
[19:44] <robertj> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m63a16357 <-- am I just missing something stupid?
[19:44] <thom__> mbeierl : It's about error and tell that the drive has a read-only system
[19:44] <kevin_zhong> is the Intel 82845G graphics controller compatible with Ubuntu?
[19:45] <Picassotamus> giaco: Aside from errors, i would see if your network card is detected
[19:45] <marcondes> ola,
[19:45] <marcondes> creio que estou com um problema
[19:45] <ChotaZ> !portuguese | marcondes
[19:45] <mbeierl> thom__: if you open a terminal and enter "mount" by itself, what's the output?
[19:45] <danbhfive> thom__: I was having the same trouble
[19:45] <giaco> Picassotamus, why not?
[19:45] <danbhfive> thom__: I just reformatted, and that solved it
[19:45] <Ienorand> raven1: Supergrubdisk would probably be able to do what you want as well: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ There are instructions on: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Howto_Boot_Linux_only try the boot * directly option in the CD...
[19:45] <erUSUL> robertj: what are the permissions of the parent dir? (certs in this case?)
[19:45] <marcondes> tem pessoas reclamando q estao recebendo aquelas mensagem com links para virus
[19:45] <hbekel> danbhfive: voodoo...
[19:46] <marcondes> sendo q uso o ubuntu 8,10 e emesene
[19:46] <Picassotamus> giaco: what? I'm not sure what you mean but "why not?".  I'm saying that if you don't see any error messages, make sure your network card is detected
[19:46] <thom__> mbeierl : well I dont exactly remember, because I formatted it. But I can copy the file from my Flash-disk. I just can save into it.
[19:46] <ChotaZ> !portuguese > marcondes
[19:46] <marcondes> ok
[19:46] <thom__> mbeierl : cant
[19:46] <ChotaZ> aqui so fala inglês =D English only here please ;)
[19:47] <kevin_zhong> is the Intel 82845G graphics card compatible with Ubuntu?
[19:47] <kravlin> so last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects. help?
[19:47] <giaco> Picassotamus, yes, it is. But I can't get why you're asking me about my network card even if I haven't talked about it since my channel join :-| Am I missing something?
[19:47] <Igramul> Is it possible to make spampd reject spam mails (code 5xx) instead of just marking it?
[19:47] <robertj> erUSUL: dr-x--x--x 2 backuppc backuppc 4096 2009-03-31 19:58 .
[19:47] <cremetorte> hi there i got a problem with my new installed postfix/courier mailserver.   i  can send mail, i can receive them, but there is one specifig valid email adress from which i cant receive any mail. mail does NOT return.  is there a possibility to check a logfile for courier or something?
[19:47] <Ienorand> Does ubuntu livecd boot screen use isolinux boot config or something like that?
[19:48] <erUSUL> Ienorand: syslinux afaik
[19:48] <kevin_zhong> ok, another question... how can i Update 8.10 to 9.04
[19:48] <erUSUL> robertj: dunno what may be the problem
[19:48] <datruth> What are the correct settings to VPN from ubuntu to windows 2003 server?
[19:48] <erUSUL> kevin_zhong: ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:48] <toorima> anyone know of some managment software, push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but with our own internal server and preferably open source
[19:49] <danbhfive> thom__: please let me know if you try reformating
[19:49] <robertj> erUSUL: I thought that was expected behavior from rm though
[19:49] <robertj> and that I just needed another util
[19:49] <Ienorand> erUSUL: do you know the commands for chainloading from that, or where I could find out?
[19:49] <erUSUL> Ienorand: nope
[19:51] <kravlin> so last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects. help?
[19:51] <clearscreen> !repeat | kravlin
[19:52] <kravlin> clearscreen: I don't normally spam like this. I sat there for a good hour last night before someone realized that i was even talking. Sorry. won't happen again.
[19:53] <Defience> I need help with a Wubi problem
[19:54] <De-Mentor> Defience: whats your problem?
[19:55] <datruth> anyone?
[19:55] <Defience> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 with it and on boot up I get an Errror 1: message
[19:55] <datruth> anyone?
[19:55] <kravlin> clearscreen: so what is a good interval for asking my question? i've already looked around a bit on the forums.
[19:55] <Defience> Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[19:55] <Defience>  press any Key to Continue
[19:56] <De-Mentor> Defience: which version did you install the 32bit or 64bit version ?
[19:56] <ikonia> datruth: anyone what ?
[19:56] <Defience> De-Mentor:64bit I believe
[19:57] <De-Mentor> Defience: and do you have a 64bit CPU?
[19:58] <ikonia> Defience: can you type the full error you get please
[19:58] <De-Mentor> ikonia: he said he got Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[19:58] <Defience> De-Mentor: :/ it's 32 bit
[19:59] <ikonia> De-Mentor: thats not an error - I need more detail
[19:59] <ikonia> De-Mentor: at what poind do you get this error and what is the full error
[19:59] <Defience> ikonia: that's all it will say
[19:59] <ikonia> De-Mentor: sorry that was doe Defience
[19:59] <ikonia> for
[19:59] <De-Mentor> ikonia: i dont get the error he just wrote it before
[19:59] <Defience> I get the option to boot vista or ubuntu, I click ubuntu and get that error
[19:59] <ikonia> Defience: ok - so the problem is with grub
[20:00] <Defience> Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[20:00] <Defience>  press any Key to Continue
[20:00] <ikonia> Defience: has ubuntu every worked
[20:00] <Defience> ikonia: no
[20:00] <Sooke> Hola, alguno que use Amarok con algun dispositivo externo, por mas que cambio cosas en mis colecciones, luego al transferir no me copia caratulas ni nada a mi iphone
[20:00] <Defience> ikonia: I just tried it with wubi yesterday
[20:00] <ikonia> ahhh wubi
[20:00] <noren> !ot
[20:00] <ikonia> noren: who was that for ?
[20:01] <kravlin> so last night we were working on my networking issues. we managed to get eth0 to appear on my computer but it requests an ip then disconnects, wireless works but there's no wireless where i am.
[20:01] <Defience> "Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist"  <---
[20:01] <luislobo> !es | Sooke
[20:03] <juaco> when i see a package in packages.ubuntu.com and it says "restricted", what does it mean?
[20:03] <Defience> ikonia: I first get the screen for normal mode, etc. which I choose, then comes the error and when I "press any key to continue" I get the option screen where I can edit
[20:03] <ikonia> Defience: yes, I understand what the problem is, but I don't use/support wubi as I don't rate it as a product so I don't know it insude out
[20:04] <cha0s> juaco, it means that it's using stuff with a restrictive license
[20:04] <juaco> cha0s thx!
[20:05] <hybr1der> is there a way to totally uninstall a software?
[20:05] <Defience> ikonia: I have a ubuntu 8.04 disk which I tried several times to duel install with vista but that always gave me another error where it would exit before loading [busybox] and drop me to (initramfs)
[20:05] <Defience> so I decided to try wubi
[20:05] <noren> Defience: check for physical eroor
[20:06] <Defience> noren: how? where? what?
[20:06] <erUSUL> hybr1der: use purge
[20:06] <ikonia> Defience: again - I don't support wubi so I can't help you with that
[20:06] <noren> check the cd for physical error
[20:06] <Picassotamus> hybr1der: assuming said software is in repos, i believe the command is sudo apt-get remove *package name*
[20:06] <Defience> noren: Ok
[20:07] <ikonia> Defience: the bottom line is your grub config needs a full path to the file it wants to boot
[20:07] <noren> Defience: wen u start with the live cdd u get the option
[20:07] <mogi22> what would be the sed command to delete lines from a line containing 123 to the line after one containing 456
[20:07] <ikonia> Defience: that much I can tel ou
[20:07] <mogi22> ie sed -i '/123/,/456/d' file does almost thata
[20:07] <souvik> hi how to get all the graphical activities in ubuntu?
[20:07] <mogi22> but i also want to delete the line after 456 which is blank
[20:07] <mogi22> but its the 2nd blank line after 123, so i cant just do '/123/,/ /d'
[20:08] <catface> is there something like virtualBox that can run off an actual hard drive instead of an image?
[20:08] <fwaokda> my firefox doesn't have  a titlebar anymore... yet all other windows/programs seem to still have theirs... whats the deal?
[20:08] <Defience> ikonia: yeah, I thought when I get to the screen where I can edit that maybe a path needed changed like (not exact) --set-root-ignore_floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz
[20:09] <noren> fwaokda: chec the theme u have installed
[20:09] <ikonia> Defience: check if /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz even exists
[20:09] <fwaokda> its the default theme...
[20:09] <Picassotamus> catface: Not that i know of, that kind of defeats the whole point of it being virtual ( not really being installed )
[20:09] <Defience> it does
[20:09] <souvik> hi how to get all the graphical activities in ubuntu?
[20:10] <Defience> ikonia: if I change the path to something like: /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/menu.lst I get an Error 15: doesn't exist
[20:10] <visf> hi, any  idea why my drive show so little amount of space and yet when i check the property there shows almost full?
[20:10] <yoasdf> is initrd important
[20:10] <fosco_> souvik: do you mean a 3D desktop?
[20:10] <ikonia> Defience: you don't boot that file
[20:10] <Aperculum> can I create ext2 fs without lost&found dit
[20:10] <Aperculum> dir
[20:10] <yoasdf> ?
[20:10] <Defience> ikonia: ok
[20:10] <noren> Defience: and initrd.img file is also needed
[20:10] <ikonia> Defience: thats your menu.lst - you edit that file to tell it where the kernel is
[20:10] <yoasdf> do we need initrd?
[20:10] <catface> i just want to run two oses at the same time and i already have them installed
[20:10] <Dueland> When i open programs in my 2nd computer screen, they start on my primary screen. Has anyone encountered this? Using latest nvidia
[20:11] <catface> i suppose i should run linux and use the 'other one' through wine
[20:11] <erUSUL> Aperculum: no; it is a bid deal to have it around ?
[20:11] <Defience> noren: in the boot folder are initrd and vmlinuz
[20:11] <Aperculum> erUSUL: on usb-stick
[20:11] <Aperculum> erUSUL: just annoyance
[20:11] <yoasdf> why is it important to have initrd?
[20:11] <souvik> fosco_:ya
[20:11] <Picassotamus> catface: It may have not been what you meant, but you can't run an OS through wine
[20:11] <yoasdf> when i was playing with slackware i didn't need initrd but only vmlinux?
[20:11] <yoasdf> just confused
[20:11] <fosco_> souvik: activate desktop effects
[20:11] <erUSUL> yoasdf: depends on your config and your hardware set up
[20:12] <yoasdf> oh
[20:12] <yoasdf> thx
[20:12] <Defience> ikonia: could the problem be that my computer is 32 bit?
[20:12] <noren> Defience: are u trying to install 64 bit on 32 bit
[20:12] <souvik> fosco_:actually am using it 1st time...........how to activate it?
[20:12] <ikonia> Defience: not really
[20:12] <Picassotamus> catface: certain windows apps yes
[20:13] <Defience> noren: I didn't realize it but I think I got 64bit   amd64.iso
[20:13] <ikonia> Defience: that would give you a different message
[20:13] <catface> picassotamus: oh yeah... duh
[20:13] <fosco_> souvik: system - preferences - appearance - effects
[20:13] <Defience> ikonia: ok
[20:13] <ikonia> Defience: however if your computer (not windows - your hardware) is 32bit only - you won't be able to use that install
[20:13] <rfsalder> I've got some questions about apt-mirror and apt-move. Is this the right forum to ask them?
[20:13] <marko-_-> why is the xorg.conf in 8.10 different from 8.04 ?
[20:13] <linkinx64> helllo guys how can i see what users and what files are they accessing in ubuntu?
[20:14] <noren> Defience: u cannot install 64 bit on 32 bit
[20:14] <erUSUL> Aperculum: i think you can just remove it (fsck will create it again when you run it)
[20:14] <Dueland> When i open programs in my 2nd computer screen, they start on my primary screen. Has anyone encountered this? Using latest nvidia driver
[20:14] <fosco_> markl_: cause newer X server does not need xorg.conf file
[20:14] <noren> Defience: otherway around is possible
[20:14] <fosco_> marko-_-:  cause newer X server does not need xorg.conf file
[20:14] <ivantis> Currently I have Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop. Is there a way to upgrade to server edition without losing files/settings?
[20:14] <fosco_> ivantis: update-manager
[20:14] <marko-_-> fosco_, so if i want let's say change the graphic card section to use vesa and stuff like that, where do i do that ?
[20:15] <Defience> ikonia:noren: 32-bit operating system
[20:15] <fosco_> markl_: you can still using xorg.conf to force some settings
[20:15] <ivantis> fosco_, how does that work? I have the server edition DVD
[20:15] <Aperculum> thanks erUSUL
[20:15] <souvik>  fosco_:actually it giving can't enable effects. sud i install anything?
[20:15] <Defience> but the site doesn't give you a choice
[20:15] <ikonia> Defience: said NOT operating system, I said your hardware
[20:16] <fosco_> souvik: go to system - admin - hardware drivers and activate your graphics driver
[20:16] <dhruvasagar> ikonia: hey
[20:16] <noren> ikonia: now i m confused what is Defience trying to do
[20:16] <dhruvasagar> fosco_: in my experience that doesn't always work properly
[20:16] <Aaron1> Real dumb question: How do you change the look of mouse cursors
[20:16] <Defience> ikonia: I can view the menu.lst file, should I be able to view the vmlinuz file?
[20:16] <fosco_> dhruvasagar: maybe, but it is the first place to look for
[20:16] <fosco_> :)
[20:16] <ikonia> Defience: no - it's a binary file
[20:17] <dhruvasagar> fosco_: I have found it best to install the drivers manually using synaptic first and then go to the hardware section to activate them
[20:17] <Defience> ikonia: ok
[20:17] <Mean_Admin> I need help on the killall syntax if anyone..
[20:17] <sirderigo-> it only contains 1 and 0
[20:17] <clearscreen> Mean_Admin: man killall
[20:17] <Neochivers> hey .. im running an Intel E6600 that supports EM64T (intels 64-bit stuff) .. which ISO is the 64-bit version the "AMD64" or "i386" ?
[20:17] <yabuk> how to configure a ubuntu-ubuntu network using a crossover cable?
[20:17] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: what about killall?
[20:17] <sirderigo-> Mean_Admin, killall app to kill
[20:17] <erUSUL> Neochivers: amd64
[20:17] <Mean_Admin> clearscreen: yeah I stil lcan't do it right
[20:17] <JessicaParker> anyone use spofity with wine ?
[20:17] <fosco_> JessicaParker: yep
[20:18] <margaret> Hi I asked this question earlier and had to leave so I appologize to anyonw who answered
[20:18] <Neochivers> erUSUL: even though its's an intel chip will it work?
[20:18] <Aaron1> Anyone know how to change the look of the mouse cursor ?
[20:18] <clearscreen> Mean_Admin: well, give us a specific problem then :P
[20:18] <JessicaParker> i have an issue where sometimes the sound just stops and i have to reboot to get it up again - anyone come across this issue
[20:18] <dhruvasagar> JessicaParker: I don't like wine so much...or atleast their concept..
[20:18] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: I want killall to kill something based on what it's called in ps aux
[20:18] <confusedBob> Aaron1: System -> Preferences -> Appearence, click customise on the theme you are using, then Pointers tab
[20:18] <fosco_> Aaron1: system - preferences - appearance - personalize theme
[20:18] <Aaron1> omg
[20:18] <Aaron1> Thanks
[20:18] <JessicaParker> any alternatives to wine with spotify though - do they have linux install >
[20:18] <erUSUL> Neochivers: yes; amd invented the 64 bit extensions/architechture so linux devs named the linux arch amd64
[20:18] <Aaron1> I feel retarded
[20:18] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: well you can simply type killall apppnamee, ex.) killall firefox
[20:18] <margaret> I have a copy of rosetta stone that runs directly from the cd drive can I use this with ubuntu?
[20:18] <Mean_Admin> so in ps aux , there is a process called ssh -i /some/parth and so on
[20:19] <erUSUL> Neochivers: give credit where credit is due
[20:19] <fosco_> JessicaParker: yes, me too, i think is something pulse related
[20:19] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: yeah but killall shh would kill +7000 processes
[20:19] <Aaron1> Can you import custom mouse cursors?
[20:19] <confusedBob> yes
[20:19] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin you would like to do a ps -ef | grep /some/parth first I guess
[20:19] <Neochivers> erUSUL : I assume you mean AMD developed the 64-bit processing code
[20:19] <JessicaParker> any soultion apart from reboot ?
[20:19] <fosco_> Aaron1: gnome-look.org and download any cursor theme you like
[20:19] <Mean_Admin> I just want to tell killall to kill the process starting with "ssh -i /specific/path".. I'd even settle for kill, I just find it even less workable
[20:19] <Neochivers> no more MX :P
[20:20] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: and then you can kill the process using sudo kill -9 pid
[20:20] <Aaron1> My question was more on how do you import them?
[20:20] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: right but I'm trying to script this so no human eyeballs
[20:20] <RON4LD0RUD35> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[20:20] <fosco_> Aaron1: just drag and drop the tgz file over the appearance window
[20:20] <confusedBob> instructions should be on gnome-look
[20:20] <Aaron1> Okay
[20:20] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: well killall has a -r pr --regexp option.
[20:21] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: -r OR --regexp
[20:21] <erUSUL> Neochivers: they designed/invented the x86_64 architechture the same way intel invented/designed/developed x86_32 (ia32 ix86 or whatever...)
[20:21] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: thanks, I'll look into it :)
[20:21] <RON4LD0RUD35> algum brasileiro???
[20:21] <fosco_> !br
[20:21] <mcrawfor> you know how after you do updates you get messages such as "system needs rebooting" or particular applications need to be restarted?
[20:21] <mcrawfor> is there any way to get those at the cmdline?
[20:21] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: cool
[20:21] <Soyo> So I have my shared folder set with 777 (drwxrwxrwx) Why can I not save a file in that directory from my XP machine without it saying "access denied" ?
[20:22] <dhruvasagar> mcrawfor: you should get them on command line if you update from the command line
[20:22] <JessicaParker> i take it no one has a solution to spotify mysteriously stopping ?
[20:22] <erUSUL> !br | RON4LD0RUD35
[20:22] <mcrawfor> dhruvasagar: using apt-get upgrade?
[20:22] <dhruvasagar> mcrawfor: apt-get update
[20:22] <RON4LD0RUD35> ok, já achei, obrigado
[20:22] <erUSUL> RON4LD0RUD35: obrigado
[20:22] <Anusien> Soyo: You're sharing it over samba?  Check the samba configuration file; it can override those
[20:23] <piegod> Hi, there was a tool for voip that didn't use any external servers a while back that I read about, the program would either become a client or a server itself, can anyone name the program?
[20:23] <dhruvasagar> I just love gnome-do
[20:23] <Soyo> Anusien: thanks did not think of that!
[20:23] <mcrawfor> dhruvasagar: are you saying they are lodged somewhere in the enormous list of output from apt-get?
[20:23] <abstrakt> what's the command to enable a vhost on apache2?
[20:23] <abstrakt> i forget, i'm migrating this Apache setup from CentOS to Ubuntu
[20:23] <ikonia> abstrakt: you need to enable a site
[20:23] <dhruvasagar> mcrawfor: in my understanding it should be logged at the end when update finishes
[20:23] <mcrawfor> abstrakt: a2ensite i think
[20:23] <abstrakt> and it's got the sites-available and sites-enabled
[20:23] <abstrakt> ikonia, yes i know
[20:23] <grey580> Hello everyone
[20:23] <abstrakt> just can't remember the command
[20:24] <ikonia> abstrakt: look in /etc/http and a2ensite
[20:24] <abstrakt> mcrawfor, yeah that sounds right thx
[20:24] <mcrawfor> dhruvasagar: huh, never seen that
[20:24] <mcrawfor> np
[20:24] <abstrakt> ikonia, you mean /etc/httpd ?
[20:24] <ikonia> abstrakt: I most certainly do
[20:24] <ikonia> abstrakt: sites-enabled and sites-available directories
[20:25] <Jake2> hi there, can someone help me with my ubuntu installation please?
[20:25] <Eric_G> Hi all. I'm hoping for some help figuring out why a volume will not mount ..
[20:25] <ikonia> Eric_G: what's up ?
[20:26] <clearscreen> Eric_G: errors?
[20:26] <dhruvasagar> Jake2: what seems to be your problem?
[20:26] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: I can't get the syntax right :(
[20:26] <clearscreen> We can't read minds over the internet (yet)
[20:26] <erUSUL> !ask | Jake2
[20:26] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: killall -i -r "ssh -i" doesn't work
[20:26] <oobe> if i compile a new kernel on intrepid using "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-poofuck kernel-image kernel-headers" when i install the resulting debs i get dkms errors to do with my nvidia modules is there a way to work around this
[20:26] <Picassotamus> Eric_G: filesystem? device type?
[20:26] <Jake2> ok basically i install ubuntu but i cannot access the GUI, only the kernel command line thingy if you know what i mean
[20:26] <abstrakt> so, i get an error message (which i've seen before) saying that the fully qualified domain name could not be determined and so using the loopback addy for the ServerName (127.....
[20:26] <Jake2> im a complete noob to linux im afraid
[20:26] <abstrakt> does that matter?
[20:26] <ikonia> oobe: you can do it without using bad langauge
[20:26] <clearscreen> Jake2: any errors when you run 'startx'?
[20:26] <abstrakt> Jake2, step number one. don't be afraid. fear is the mind killer.
[20:26] <grey580> Question: I need to connect to an msql server on a different machine. Does anyone know what the steps would be to configure my setup of ubuntu server 2.6.27-11-server #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 20:19:41 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:26] <ikonia> oobe: custom kernels are also not supported
[20:27] <Eric_G> The volume was originally formatted for journalled OS X, and then the drive was used on both OS X and Linux Ubuntu 8.10. My Ubuntu box is on the blink for now, and to my dismay OS X is not mounting hte volume. Terminal help ?
[20:27] <ubalooba> hey guys, is anyone familiar with mobo MCP temps?
[20:27] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: -r requires a regular expression, have you tried killall -i -r /ssh -i/ ?
[20:27] <oobe> ikonia, bad language?
[20:27] <ikonia> Eric_G: try in ##apple
[20:27] <ikonia> oobe: yes, look at your kernel name
[20:27] <ikonia> Eric_G: or ##macox
[20:27] <oobe> oh ok
[20:27] <ikonia> Eric_G: or ##macos
[20:27] <piegod> oobe: i think he meant the -poofuck bit :)
[20:27] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: I would suggest you to google a bit if needed
[20:27] <oobe> yeah i got it
[20:27] <Jake2> would someone mind pming me? this is a little confusing
[20:27] <oobe> well point taken
[20:27] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: I did, that's why I came crying here
[20:28] <clearscreen> Jake2: run 'startx'
[20:28] <oobe> that still doesnt help me with my problem if i remove the bad language
[20:28] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: I'll google some more until  I find 42 if I must
[20:28] <piegod> but they have profanity in the source code :/
[20:28] <Jake2> @clearscreen, startx says something about error
[20:28] <BlackCoffee> what's with the colours on the ubuntu forums.my eyes hurt
[20:28] <Eric_G> Yeah, I though about using #apple, but I figured by double use in Ubuntu changed the volume enough to make it umnountable in OS X
[20:28] <clearscreen> Jake2: we cant read minds over the internet, specify what error
[20:28] <erUSUL> BlackCoffee: april's fool joke
[20:28] <ga_bash> bhak madharchod sab sala
[20:28] <ga_bash> bhak madharchod sab sala
[20:28] <Jake2> i also see some ACPI errors when logging
[20:28] <BlackCoffee> yuk
[20:28] <ikonia> Eric_G: I doubt mounting it in ubuntu changed anything
[20:28] <BlackCoffee> bad taste in jokes i must say
[20:29] <ikonia> BlackCoffee: this channel is for ubuntu support,
[20:29] <fosco_> Jake2: you can try some things
[20:29] <clearscreen> Jake2: run 'startx | grep EE' and post the errors starting with (EE) on a pastebin
[20:29] <BlackCoffee> so?
[20:29] <dhruvasagar> Mean_Admin: well you just need to find the right regular expression...
[20:29] <oobe> what i think the problem is is when i install the kernel it goes into a loop off not being able to build new nvidia modules using dkms
[20:29] <ikonia> BlackCoffee: complaining about ubuntuforums colours isn't ubuntu support
[20:29] <piegod> can anyone name a simple VoIP tool which doesn't require any other entities (other than my ISP)?
[20:29] <BlackCoffee> so all i can do here is ask for support.i can't comment on anything else?
[20:29] <ikonia> oobe: the nvidia drivers are not part of the kernel and should be installed after the kernel is running
[20:29] <fosco_> Jake2: type reboot in the command line, if that does not work type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/start if that does not work try adding acpi=off to the grub kernel line
[20:29] <ikonia> BlackCoffee: support on ubuntu, yes
[20:30] <BlackCoffee> oh goody...
[20:30] <Picassotamus> BlackCoffee: You can offer support too :)
[20:30] <Mean_Admin> dhruvasagar: yeah I thought it was set that it would kill all processes having all least all those strings but no..
[20:30] <clearscreen> BlackCoffee: for anything else, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <BlackCoffee> i c
[20:30] <BlackCoffee> just wanted to chit chat lol.goin to the offtopic one
[20:30] <Eric_G> ok, thanks for the input. I'll see whtat #apple has to say. Good day all :)
[20:32] <oobe> ikonia, thanks i know
[20:32] <oobe> you misunderstood
[20:33] <oobe> but thanks to you now i know custom kernels are not supported and that shouldnt put bad langauge in my build name
[20:33] <kevin_zhong> my xorg.conf file is empty and my screen resolution is horrible, I don't understand...plz help
[20:34] <clearscreen> kevin_zhong: nvidia card?
[20:34] <kevin_zhong> yes
[20:34] <henryrhodes> Is virtual box better than Vim
[20:34] <clearscreen> run nvidia-xconfig
[20:34] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:34] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: wait
[20:34] <yoasdf> vim is an editor?
[20:34] <kevin_zhong> ?
[20:34] <erUSUL> henryrhodes: comparing apples to oranges from mars
[20:34] <yoasdf> virtualbox runs a virtual OS
[20:34] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: have you enabled the ubuntu restricted drivers in the "Hardware driver" application ?
[20:34] <keystr0k> I want to do a chmod g+s to a folder that has a bunch of existing folders... I want ALL folders that currently exist, and all that will be created, to take the ownership that is the same as the root folder... do I have to run chmod g+s recursively?
[20:34] <kevin_zhong> yes
[20:34] <exco1> did ubuntuforums.org get hacked or is it because of April 1st or what?
[20:34] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: which driver did it enable, and which video card do you have ?
[20:35] <outoftime> not an ubuntu-specific question, but where is a standard place for a process to put a pid file, that doesn't require root for write access?
[20:35] <wiseman> Heeeelp
[20:35] <ikonia> exco1: join #ubuntuforums
[20:35] <erUSUL> exco1: the later
[20:35] <ikonia> wiseman: you have to ask a question
[20:35] <wiseman> I can't get something to install
[20:35] <henryrhodes> I am trying to take an ISo that is windows based and put it on an sd card in linux
[20:35] <exco1> thx, erUSUL
[20:35] <ikonia> wiseman: you have to provide detail
[20:35] <kevin_zhong> I have nvidia geforce 4 mx, it enabled version 96
[20:35] <henryrhodes> on a eeepc
[20:35] <Picassotamus> keystr0k: -R, read man chmod too :)
[20:35] <wiseman> I open the CD, there's a setup thing, I doubleclick and nothing happens
[20:35] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: ahh, ok
[20:35] <benste1> what can I do if wifi fails connecting using nm applet and ndiswrapper
[20:35] <benste1> ?
[20:35] <wiseman> no, it's not a windows cd, it's a linux-specific version of some software I need
[20:36] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: do "lsmod | grep -i nvidia" what do you see
[20:36] <wiseman> I can't figure out where it goes wrong because nothing happens at all
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:36] <ikonia> wiseman: any time you want to provide details of what the application is - that will help move things along
[20:36] <yoasdf> use the terminal to connect to the internet :)
[20:36] <wiseman> It's Pro/Engineer
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> kevin@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep -i nvidia
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> nvidia               4717332  32
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> i2c_core               31892  2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> nvidia_agp             14492  1
[20:36] <kevin_zhong> agpgart                42184  2 nvidia,nvidia_agp
[20:36] <FloodBot2> kevin_zhong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <wendytrip> aiuto non mi va pi\ ubuntu
[20:36] <keystr0k> Picassotamus, Yeah... I didn't understand if the setgid bit had to be set on all of the folders... I know it will automatically set it on any NEW folders created.
[20:36] <ikonia> wiseman: it's what ?
[20:36] <benste1> yoasdf  how?
[20:37] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: thats a good start, that shows the module is loaded.
[20:37] <wiseman> Pro/Engineer.  Professional level CAD software.
[20:37] <kevin_zhong> Ok
[20:37] <ikonia> wiseman: but what is it ? what is it called
[20:37] <wiseman> It's called Pro/Engineer
[20:37] <yoasdf> man iwconfig
[20:37] <ikonia> wiseman: ahh ok, one moement please
[20:37] <wiseman> the name of the software is Pro/Engineer.
[20:37] <wendytrip> non c-[ nessuno che mi pu; dare una mano_
[20:37] <kevin_zhong> Ive been trying to fix this for a while, the only way I could get 1024x768 screen res is in low graphics mode
[20:37] <yoasdf> man dhclient
[20:37] <yoasdf> man ifconfig
[20:37] <erUSUL> !appdb | wiseman check that proengeeniring is supported by wine
[20:38] <almark1>  Hello, i am using 32 bit version of 64studio Beta 3 with hardy, recently I did a full system upgrade on 64studio and after I did this my gnome themes were missing or deleted, and I am missing 64studio.xml file, what can do to restore this? My windows hide themselves now, and I can't see them in the toolbar, I have to Alt to tab to them.
[20:38] <erUSUL> wiseman: not all windows programs work on wine
[20:38] <wiseman> But I have a linux version of it and I just want to make it work.
[20:38] <henryrhodes> how do I get a nt type boot load on an sd card in linux
[20:38] <wiseman> this is not a windows program
[20:38] <wiseman> this is the LINUX VERSION of pro/engineer
[20:38] <ikonia> wiseman: I am looking at the info
[20:38] <wiseman> I understand that.
[20:38] <erUSUL> wiseman: ahh ok; sorry for the missunderstanding...
[20:39] <almark1> Ubuntu Hardy
[20:39] <wiseman> no problem.  Most software doesn't have a linux version.  PTC is nice enough to make one
[20:39] <wiseman> Now I have the windows version on my school computer, but my mobile unit is ubuntu and I need to move stuff back and forth.
[20:40] <wiseman> is there a way for me to figure out what the error is and tell you so you can tell me what it means?
[20:40] <ikonia> wiseman: just pulling up the info on the product
[20:40] <kevin_zhong> what do you suggest ikonia?
[20:40] <blip-> does anyone know where I can find a good guide on how to set up PulseAudio on Hardy ?   for some reason I couldn't find a guide on google, only posts about problems and fixes
[20:40] <Picassotamus> !pulse
[20:40] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: apologies, I got side tracked
[20:40] <noren_> wiseman: try running the app from the konsole and tell whats the error
[20:40] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: is it possible for you to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[20:40] <grey580> to connect to a msql server on a different box i need freetds. what apt-get libs do i need?
[20:40] <blip-> thanks Picassotamus
[20:40] <kevin_zhong> its empty
[20:41] <almark1> I have the DVD installation disk for my hardy disto, 64studio, but what can I do to restore what the update has done. I don't know the names of the pkgs?
[20:41] <Guest38031> I am trying to install python-qwt4 in jaunty, and get the following message:  python-qwt4: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.1-0ubuntu9 is to be installed
[20:41] <Guest38031> . How can I get around it?
[20:41] <ikonia> Jordan_U: totally empty ?
[20:41] <erUSUL> wiseman: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/how-to-install-proengineer-under-linux-12695
[20:41] <ikonia> Jordan_U: sorry
[20:41] <wiseman> You mean terminal, noren_?
[20:41] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: totally empty - not one line ?
[20:41] <kevin_zhong> not one line
[20:41] <noren_> yes wiseman
[20:41] <TheComrade> I can mount and browse a remote folder via sshfs.. Username is the same on local and remote machines, but I cannot create or write any files in the share, it's like I have read only access.  Any ideas?
[20:41] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: then something has emptied it
[20:41] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: is this an 8.10 install ?
[20:41] <kevin_zhong> yes
[20:42] <blip-> what ???  ->   "It's a drop in replacement for EsounD. PulseAudio is the standard sound server in Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04."        .... the pulseaudio package from the repos wasn't even installed on my fully updated Hardy
[20:42] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: ok one moment
[20:42] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:42] <maginot> anyone knows how to remove a package and only that pa
[20:42] <Itchyhobo> i heard ext4 has data loss problems?
[20:42] <maginot> anyone knows how to remove a package and only that package without it dependencies ?
[20:42] <ikonia> Itchyhobo: it's not in ubuntu current release so doesn't matter
[20:42] <linxeh> maginot: look at the options to dpkg
[20:42] <ikonia> wiseman: what version of pro/engineer is it ?
[20:43] <danbhfive> maginot: dpkg --remove --force-depends package            something like that
[20:43] <wiseman> wildfire 3.0
[20:43] <erUSUL> wiseman: seems you need to « sudo aptitude install csh lesstif2 portmap » before running the setup program from terminal
[20:43] <Lego_Dan> Um, I just burned the ISO for 8.10 (with imgburn) it reads the cd like it wants to boot it but then brings up the freebsd boot manager.. and if i don't let it boot from the hdd, i get an insert boot media error
[20:43] <Itchyhobo> ikonia, i am talking about jaunty, is ext4 default on it?
[20:43] <mikes80> wiseman: This link may be useful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990227
[20:43] <wiseman> erUSUL: that may have well have been in chinese
[20:43] <mjheagle8> Itchyhobo: no
[20:43] <ikonia> Itchyhobo: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[20:43] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/142283/
[20:43] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:43] <danbhfive> Itchyhobo: no, and no
[20:43] <erUSUL> wiseman: the blog post? or the « sudo aptitude install csh lesstif2 portmap » ?
[20:44] <ikonia> wiseman: there is no product walled wildfile
[20:44] <kevin_zhong> just paste it and save?
[20:44] <ikonia> yeah
[20:44] <linxeh> Lego_Dan: bios boot options need fixing by the sounds of it
[20:44] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:44] <mjheagle8> i heard something about rhythmbox development being discontinued. anyone know anything about this?
[20:44] <ikonia> wiseman: got it- sorry
[20:44] <maginot> danbhfive, hehe I was just looking for that on #debian and they just said about --force-depends
[20:44] <maginot> =)
[20:44] <ikonia> wiseman: that version only works on RHEL 3 - 32bit
[20:44] <erUSUL> wiseman: according to the blog post i lionked you need those three packages installed before running the P/E installer
[20:44] <Lego_Dan> there is only so many options for the boot order... and bsd/windows cds boot fine.. even memtest
[20:44] <ikonia> wiseman: it has a much older glibc dependency
[20:44] <kevin_zhong> ikonia: when I try to save: "Could not find the file /etc/x11/xorg.conf."
[20:45] <wiseman> erUSUL: doing that now
[20:45] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Lego_Dan, Do you have FreeBSD installed?
[20:45] <benste1>  yoasdf: I want to use nm with the wifi
[20:45] <Lego_Dan> yes dual boot xp/freebsd
[20:45] <wiseman> erUSUL: I get an error now, at least now it's doing something though
[20:45] <Lego_Dan> plan on installing ubuntu over xp
[20:45] <julmumma> hey, how do you set gtk icons in kde4?
[20:45] <databridge> can i test my vpn server and log in from my local network into my local server from the same net?
[20:45] <ikonia> wiseman: check the dependencies
[20:45] <yoasdf> i dont use nm-applet
[20:46] <yoasdf> i like wicd better
[20:46] <ikonia> wiseman: I doubt it will run on ubuntu due to a dependency with glibc which is much older
[20:46] <Jordan_U> Lego_Dan, Did you verify the disk burned correctly and can you boot from other CD's ?
[20:46] <ikonia> wiseman: it's EOL and only compatible with RHEL3
[20:46] <wiseman> I have it on good authority that it works
[20:46] <kevin_zhong> ikonia: what do I do now?
[20:46] <ikonia> wiseman: ask that good authority what to do then
[20:46] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: restart Xorg
[20:46] <wiseman> /media/cdrom0$ /media/cdrom0/dsrc/i486_linux/obj/redirect: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:46] <wiseman> how strange
[20:46] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[20:46] <Lego_Dan> yes i can boot from all my other OS disc. and memtest.. i'll recheck the cd
[20:46] <ikonia> wiseman: that is the dependencies breaking
[20:46] <sebsebseb> EvaLuaTe: hello
[20:46] <kevin_zhong> wait a sec
[20:47] <wiseman> is there a way to get the proper dependencies then?
[20:47] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way to remove items from gnome's 'Main Menu', like 'Places' for example?
[20:47] <kevin_zhong> that file wasn't empty at all, I was just opening the wrong thing
[20:47] <wiseman> oh wait
[20:47] <wiseman> nm
[20:47] <wiseman> I found I made a typo
[20:47] <edgar_> ola ?
[20:47] <kevin_zhong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142287/
[20:47] <keystr0k> Okay, I used chmod g+s, but the new files did not take the ownership of the parent directory...?  they show up in Yellow now, but they are owned by apache:apache.   I'll poke around the web for a solution.
[20:47] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: what is that ?
[20:48] <Jordan_U> EvaLuaTe, Right click > edit menus
[20:48] <edgar_> ola. .alguem em portugues ai????
[20:48] <abstrakt> is mod_dav_svn available to install from any of the repos?
[20:48] <clearscreen> !pt | edgar_
[20:48] <abstrakt> and how would i apt-get search for it?
[20:48] <Picassotamus> keystr0k: You would need to use chown to change ownership
[20:48] <kevin_zhong> thats the file, it wasn't empty, sorry
[20:48] <wiseman> OH HAY
[20:48] <edgar_> é minha primeira vinda aqui.
[20:48] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: just replace it with what I gave you
[20:48] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:48] <edgar_> não sei nada de linux
[20:48] <ikonia> !es  | edgar_
[20:48] <keystr0k> Picassotamus, but isn't that the point of setting the setgid bit?  So that any new files take on the same permissions as their parent folder.
[20:48] <keystr0k> ?
[20:48] <clearscreen> kevin_zhong: if you had just run nvidia-xconfig like I said before, your problem would be solved 15 min ago.. but whatever :P
[20:48] <fosco_> !br > edgar_
[20:49] <kevin_zhong> lol sorry clearscreen
[20:49] <morered> databridge: it should be possible let me try mine
[20:49] <edgar_> ok ok
[20:49] <databridge> i always have modem hangups
[20:49] <databridge> but pptp is running
[20:50] <kevin_zhong> clearscreen: this is what was outputted when I inserted what you said... http://paste.ubuntu.com/142289/
[20:50] <Picassotamus> keystr0k: chmod changes permissions, chown changes ownership
[20:50] <clearscreen> kevin_zhong: sudo nvidia-xconfig, sorry :P
[20:50] <morered> what vpn server are you using?
[20:51] <databridge> pptp
[20:51] <Lego_Dan> hmm.. verify disc copped out at 99% this time :S
[20:51] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:51] <databridge> i use normal debian and installed pptp
[20:51] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: just replace the xorg.conf with the file I gave you
[20:51] <kevin_zhong> i did
[20:51] <ikonia> databridge: this is ubuntu support - not debian support
[20:51] <gluonman> I have blank disks that supposedly have 700mb of space, but when trying to burn the Ubuntu 8.10 iso to the disc (which is 698.8mb), Brasero says that the disk has only 679.9mb of space. I tried just overburning, but the disk didn't work. Do I need different disks?
[20:51] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: same problem ?
[20:51] <databridge> my client is an ubuntu machine
[20:51] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: you restarted X after you put the file in place ?
[20:51] <ikonia> databridge: ahh I see
[20:52] <kevin_zhong> idk how to restart it
[20:52]  * kevin_zhong is feeling kind of stupid
[20:52] <databridge> but i would like to know if its possible to test my own vpn from the same local network
[20:52] <ikonia> kevin_zhong: ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:52] <kevin_zhong> ok
[20:52] <databridge> not specially debian/ubuntu/linux
[20:53] <_chun> Need some help -- I've mapped Super L to a command using the "keyboard shortcuts
[20:53] <Picassotamus> databridge: There might be a #network channel you could try
[20:53] <databridge> ok
[20:53] <abstrakt> apt-get build-deps subversion
[20:53] <abstrakt> results in an error: "invalid operation build-deps"
[20:54] <ikonia> wiseman: any joy ?
[20:54] <abstrakt> trying to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9376.html
[20:54] <Picassotamus> abstrakt: did you use sudo?
[20:54] <_chun> Need some help -- I've mapped Super L to a command using the "keyboard shortcuts" tool that comes with jaunty - but every time I reboot, I have to re-map it. It shows up as being mapped, but the key doesn't have any effect until I re-map it.
[20:54] <Lint01> how can I switch keyboards in XFCE?
[20:55] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, no, i'm root
[20:55] <blip-> hi,  I'm running kubuntu 8.04 and trying to set up pulseAudio based on this ubuntu guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio ... however the stuff under "Configuring PulseAudio" I cannot apply since I'm not running gnome... any idea how to do this from command line or via some KDE tool ?   thanks
[20:55] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, i'm ssh'd in as root already
[20:55] <gluonman> Does anyone have a theory why I can't burn the Ubuntu 8.10 iso of 698.8mb to a 700mb disk that Brasero thinks only has 679.9mb on it?
[20:56] <capiira> join #ubuntu+
[20:56] <capiira> ups
[20:56] <Picassotamus> abstrakt: ah, ok
[20:56] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, for the record, i just tried adding "sudo" but as suspected it didn't change anything: still the same error
[20:57] <Guest23043> iam planning to switch distro's , hated suse , liked debain and ubuntu , any advice on what i should try next , i was thinking arch ??
[20:57] <HeXiLeD> gentoo
[20:57] <wiseman> erUSUL: Thanks for the help
[20:57] <abstrakt> hahahah
[20:57] <wiseman> it seems to be working now.
[20:57] <wiseman> we'll see in a minute
[20:57] <abstrakt> def not gentoo
[20:57] <Jordan_U> blip-, YOu might try asking in #kubuntu
[20:57] <HeXiLeD> slackware
[20:57] <erUSUL> wiseman: no problem
[20:57] <packetcase> is it possible to remote login with ssh to my friends computer when he is at his place and I am at home?
[20:58] <abstrakt> Guest23043, try FreeBSD and slackware... arch is good though too... pacman rocks
[20:58] <wiseman> ikonia: you're a big negative nancy :-P
[20:58] <Hootch> Guest23043: windows7 :)
[20:58] <HeXiLeD> fbsd
[20:58] <wendytrip> ho bisogno di aiuto non mi parte pi\ ubuntu
[20:58]  * wiseman has heard nothing but good things about windows7.  they might have finally gotten it right.
[20:59] <HeXiLeD> abstrakt whats the problem with gentoo ?
[20:59] <danbhfive> !ot
[20:59] <Lego_Dan> well i burned another copy.. and I'll try again..
[21:00] <abstrakt> no sane sysadmin for a real business (aka, not just you in your basement) would run Gentoo on a production server
[21:00] <HeXiLeD> why not ?
[21:00] <clearscreen> time = money
[21:00] <HeXiLeD> yes and ?
[21:01] <HeXiLeD> i dont spend much time with it
[21:01] <clearscreen> gentoo = manually compile EVERYTHING
[21:01] <clearscreen> = time
[21:01] <HeXiLeD> not really
[21:01] <abstrakt> HeXiLeD, google dude, i'm not gonna go over the reasons that are well documented
[21:01] <HeXiLeD> and i run it for 3 years . server/ workstation
[21:01] <abstrakt> clearscreen, yeah that's not true, you can get different levels of "precompiled" gentoo
[21:01] <blip-> I need to check something in a guide with you before I follow it, they say that I should add "$IPT -A INPUT -p udp --dport 5353 -d 224.0.0.251 -j ACCEPT" to my firestarter config file, If I run firestarter, so that it will let pulseAudio communicating over Zeroconf/Avahi's port 5353.       what does that mean ?  The ip address looks wierd, why do I want it to use that port ?      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio     thanks
[21:01] <HeXiLeD> and lots os daemons online
[21:01] <abstrakt> clearscreen, depending on how much "optimizing" you want
[21:01] <HeXiLeD> abstrakt extreme  it's what i use .
[21:02] <clearscreen> abstrakt: sure, but if you're going for that option you might as well pick a distribution that comes with apt
[21:02] <HeXiLeD> always been stable
[21:02] <wiseman> well crap
[21:02] <abstrakt> clearscreen, sure... i wasn't saying anything about anything, except that gentoo does in fact give you the option to not comnpile "everything"
[21:02] <wiseman> now I can't find where the hell it is to run it
[21:02] <Picassotamus> !ot | HeXiLeD abstrakt clearscreen
[21:02] <abstrakt> but that's the main reason ppl like it, so it's kinda besides the point in a way
[21:03] <HeXiLeD> we got 2 warnings. eheh. i ll leave it here ;)
[21:03] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, so... any idea on the build-deps thing?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> LjL: you free?
[21:04] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, i *was* on topic... but haven't gotten much of a response
[21:04] <boomking> lol thanks , i rate iam just gna try slackware i hear its a good place to up exp
[21:04] <blip-> it's slack
[21:05] <Picassotamus> abstrakt: actually yes :) ... its build-dep, not build-deps
[21:05] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, ahh
[21:05] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, bingo thanks that's it
[21:05] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, horray for typos in the freaking command set on that HOWTO page on the forums
[21:06] <Picassotamus> abstrakt: right?
[21:06] <wiseman> Silly question:  Can I just give myself administrative privelages for doing graphical type tasks?  I want to drag and drop a few folders around and it says I don't have permission to do that
[21:06] <abstrakt> dang, 350M of deps for subversion
[21:06] <wiseman> and I'd rather not use the terminal
[21:06] <Lint01> wiseman: sudo nautilus /
[21:06] <abstrakt> wiseman, you can log into X11 as root
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:07] <abstrakt> wiseman, yeah or better yet, sudo nautilus
[21:07] <Mean_Admin> google.com/linux is surprisingly a good idea
[21:07] <crdlb> !gksu
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: gksudo nautilus   you mean surely
[21:07] <abstrakt> wiseman, and actually i'm pretty sure that there's a graphical sudo
[21:07] <guntbert> abstrakt: you can shoot yourself into the knee too :-))
[21:07] <Jake1> Hi, just installed.  Auto detected my vid card and suggested a restricted driver but nothing for my Gigabyte onboard sound.  Where do I start to get the correct driver?
[21:07] <abstrakt> wiseman, well there you go :)
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: sudo is not for gui apps
[21:07] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: then "sudo nautilus / &"
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: no, not sudo <any gui app>
[21:08] <Bsims{fs}> I need help knowing if my psu is within spec http://paste.ubuntu.com/142300/
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: sudo does not configure the environment for gui apps, thats why gksudo exists
[21:08] <wiseman> cool thanks
[21:08] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: strange it always worked for me
[21:08] <crdlb> Lint01: it works until it screws something up
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: it will work but it will break ownership and permissions
[21:09] <Jake1> Any suggestions for finding the correct sound driver? Not sure where to start.
[21:09] <abstrakt> Lint01, it's not so much "strange" as it is you just don't have all the information
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Jake1: lspci
[21:09] <crdlb> Lint01: certain apps are perfectly safe to use with sudo, but others aren't, so it's best to never do it
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !sound |  Jake1
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Jake1: once you know the audio chip you can websearch for drivers
[21:10] <Jake1> Thanks everyone, I'll give it a shot.
[21:10] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, ok i got some errors on that build deps thing... all of them are related to SSL packages not being found
[21:10] <shadeslayer> ubottu is very intelligent ;)
[21:10] <abstrakt> openssl and friends
[21:10] <shadeslayer> bye
[21:10] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, do i need to update my repos or something?
[21:10] <noren_> hey ActionParsnip
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> hi noren_
[21:10] <abstrakt> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8g-4ubuntu3.4_amd64.deb  404 Not Found
[21:11] <abstrakt> what gives?
[21:11] <genii> abstrakt: sudo apt-get update
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: can you ping security.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <Dreamglider> can i get my USB GPS receiver to work in ubuntu 8.10, it is listed as  ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port with lsusb.
[21:11] <talntid> can someone help me troubleshoot a pptp tunnel? :)
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: websearch for 067b:2303
[21:12] <genii> ActionParsnip: 404 usually means server exists, the file however doesn't
[21:12] <talntid> used to work fine, now it doesn't
[21:12] <abstrakt> genii, yup looks like that worked, thanks
[21:12] <genii> abstrakt: Yer welcome
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> genii: i see (checked wikipedia)
[21:12] <kitchenrange> hey everyone
[21:12] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: maybe with some configuring to get it working properly in Ubuntu,  but  in a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu, I expect that would work
[21:13] <sebsebseb> kitchenrange: hi
[21:13] <kitchenrange> i have the weirdest problem if someone thinks they have the answer
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: if you apt-get update before all installs you'll get fewer issues
[21:13] <abstrakt> ActionParsnip, k, good to know
[21:13] <guntbert> !ask | kitchenrange
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> kitchenrange: ask away, the room will answer if it can
[21:13] <kitchenrange> ive had ubuntu on my computer for a while and I tried to install windows within a partition.
[21:13] <abstrakt> i ran Ubuntu as my desktop a few years ago... it's been a while...
[21:13] <kitchenrange> wasnt asking to ask
[21:13] <G8_Zer0> I have a brand new assembled pc, 3 empty disks (1xIDE,2xSATA), when I boot up on Ubunutu, the menu appears. Select language. Install Ubuntu. ubuntu loading logo comes and then it writes "BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu6) built-in shell (ash). Enter Help for a list of built-in commands". And then I'm in console-mode (DOS mode). And I can only write commands. What to do?
[21:13] <toorima> anyone know of some managment software, push updates, software install etc for a large number of workstations, something like landscape but not $150 a year and nod...
[21:14] <kitchenrange> i did install windows succesfully into a partition, but my computer wont boot into the linux partition. or even give me the option
[21:14] <guntbert> kitchenrange: please keep your question in *one* line
[21:14] <Jordan_U> G8_Zer0, What version of Ubuntu?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> kitchenrange: ok Windows has gone over Grub
[21:15] <genii> G8_Zer0: Try setting your sata controller into "Compatibility" or "IDE" mode in your bios
[21:15] <G8_Zer0> Newest, 8.10
[21:15] <sebsebseb> !grub
[21:15] <kitchenrange> ty sebsebseb
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> G8_Zer0: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded and also verify the cd burned was consistant?
[21:15] <spydon> I bought Ubuntu Phone Buddy, how can I give it enough power to charge phones?
[21:15] <G8_Zer0> I see it boots my sata disks on boot up. It's a PCI sata card btw
[21:15] <sebsebseb> kitchenrange: why do you want to dual boot?  if your computer has enough RAM, and you don't  want Windows 3D programs, how about Windows inside Ubuntu instead, in a virtual machine
[21:15] <genii> G8_Zer0: The usual reason for it is that it doesn't know you have disks/cd etc attached because it has no specific sata driver for your chipset, but the bios setting makes it behave like a known one
[21:16] <ellar> kitchenrange, for those issues have a look for the supergrubdisk
[21:16] <Maobax> ciao
[21:16] <G8_Zer0> ActionParsnip, Yeah, made a check when burn ended. Tried several disks, from different computers aswell.
[21:16] <Maobax> !list
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> G8_Zer0: you may need to compile / install the SATA controller driver in the live cd before you can use it, you may need to disable acpi. depends on the card
[21:16] <thom__> bye all... I m gonna sign off
[21:17] <G8_Zer0> ok
[21:17]  * thom__ thanks for all of d`help
[21:17] <N1ckR> Any tips for getting a ms word doc file to open correctly in openoffice (im running 3.01) ?
[21:17] <Lint01> !youtube
[21:17] <sebsebseb> N1ckR: correctly in Open Office? explain what you mean exactly by that
[21:17] <QaDeS> is there free linux software to conveniently dub movies? or do you have any idea where to best look for something like that?
[21:17] <G8_Zer0> Source to find drivers? And does the manufactor have linux drivers?
[21:17] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can a defective NIC be tracked down somehow from a console ?
[21:17] <G8_Zer0> I think it's asus or something, but haven't checked
[21:18] <Lint01> !flash
[21:18] <N1ckR> sebsebseb, the formatting is screwed big time.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Iceman_B^Ltop, There might be error messages in dmesg
[21:18] <Dj-Toast> Hi all,  I freshly installed ubuntu 8.10 last weekend, and did all the upgrades on monday.  Yesterday theres were some other upgrades so i did those but now i have a blank screen.  Is there a way to see what fix was installed yesterday, roll back, or is theres a known fix for this
[21:18] <imachine> N1ckR, try saving it with 2000/xp format
[21:18] <imachine> N1ckR, 2007 is tricky.
[21:18] <imachine> especially with docx
[21:18] <unko> hey guys. is it my drivers? or is it just my system im using ATI radeon mobility x1400. but my screen recorders are soo slow
[21:18] <Lego_Dan> !postfix
[21:18] <the10nitro> N1ckR: try OO.o 3,  it hasn't made it into the repos yet
[21:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> Jordan_U: the card is still fucntioning, but I'm getting nothing but dropping connections. Have been wrestling with this problem for a few days now
[21:19] <sebsebseb> N1ckR: ok  yeah,  since .doc is a closed format,  every other program that isn't from Microsoft  that awnts to suppourt it had to reverse enginner suppourt for it, a very clever proggramming technique,  but as a result  suppourt won't be perfect.  Install Abiword, sometimes it deals with .doc's  way better than Open Office
[21:19] <imachine> unko, see if you have rendering/
[21:19] <N1ckR> Im running 3.01 from the ppa, sadly its a doc I have been given.
[21:19] <unko> imachine, rendering?
[21:19] <imachine> unko, direct rendering that is. type 'glxinfo' in a terminal and see if you have Direct Rendering: yes
[21:19]  * N1ckR reluctantly fires up xp up virtualbox
[21:19] <imachine> direct rendering: Yes
[21:19] <imachine> says in my case
[21:19] <sebsebseb> N1ckR: do Abiword as I said :)  and you can run Microsoft Office under Wine
[21:19] <Jordan_U> N1ckR, GoOO claims it has better support for some documents ( I think mostly .docx though )
[21:19] <Lego_Dan> !dovecot
[21:19] <unko> imachine, ok hold on
[21:20] <imachine> sebsebseb, I don't think it works under wine.
[21:20] <unko> imachine, yea i do
[21:20] <sebsebseb> imachine: it does
[21:20] <imachine> unko, everything should work okay.
[21:20] <imachine> unko, what exactly is the problem?
[21:20] <imachine> sebsebseb, which version? it hadn't for a while
[21:20] <unko> imachine, hmm...i don't know my system is fast but when it comes to recording my screen it's horribly slow
[21:20] <imachine> actually, it never did. hence the question
[21:20] <imachine> unko, ok, dunno.
[21:20] <unko> imachine, ok thnx
[21:21] <imachine> unko, maybe it's the recording software being slow.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Iceman_B^Ltop, ifconfig will give you some statistics
[21:21] <unko> imachine, maybeee
[21:21] <imachine> ;)
[21:21] <sebsebseb> imachine:  most of 2003 worked  ages in older wine versions.  and someone runs office 2007 in wine.   as for versions, alwasy get latest wine from http://www.winehq.org and add the Ubuntu repo so always get latest wine.  however  use  stuff such as Open Office, Abiword,  Gnumeric, and KOffice, before doing Microsoft Office under Wine
[21:21] <sebsebseb> N1ckR: KOffice is another one that can open your word doc
[21:22] <wizared> my dvd player plays the dvd but the video is scrambled
[21:22] <wizared> any thoughts
[21:22] <morered> Dj-Toast: have you tried booting into recovery mode and selecting xfix
[21:22] <gizmo> anyone know the cli command for listing the battery stats?  I have a dell D600 which had a 4 hr battery yesterday and now refuses to charge since I hibernated.  I get the flashing red light on the laptop & flashing alternated  lights on the battery.
[21:22] <Dj-Toast> morered: i can get in terminal.. let me try that now.
[21:23] <sebsebseb> N1ckR: the  Microsoft  Word document viewer from Microsoft, will work in Wine
[21:23] <Dj-Toast> morered: probably something with nvidia again
[21:24] <abstrakt> ok, so i ran the ./configure && make && make install for subversion
[21:24] <Bullterd> Evening All
[21:24] <abstrakt> and it properly installed mod_dav_svn.so into /usr/lib/apache2
[21:24] <macman_> guys .. say i cat all my external directories to a .txt file .. how can i rm all the files in the txt file but not certin ones ?
[21:24] <n2diy> wizared: what are you using as the dvd player?
[21:24] <genii> abstrakt: Why, when you could have just done   sudo apt-get install subversion       ?
[21:24] <abstrakt> and i created a duplicate of dav.load in mods-available and editied it
[21:24] <wizared> vcl
[21:25] <Bullterd> Ive just purchased a HP Proliant ML115 G5 server - it has onboard RAID. ive used the Nvidia RAID manager to RAID my two 160gb drive into a RAID 1
[21:25] <Bullterd> However, ubuntu doesnt seem to be picking up the drives
[21:25] <Bullterd> How do I go about loading drivers for this?
[21:25] <rhythmsoup> Hi All, i have a machine here at home running ubuntu 8.04 its hung and i want to use ALT+SYSREQ+REISUB to shutit down but its not responding? what can i do to shutit down without killing the power?
[21:25] <abstrakt> but when i do a2enmod dav_svn.load it says "The module does not exist!"
[21:25] <n2diy> do you know your video chip set?
[21:25] <G8_Zer0> I tried pulling the sata card out and disconnected the sata disks, so only 1 IDE dvd drive and 1 IDE harddisk, booted up on the disc, but same result, just enters console mode instead of installaing ubuntu :|
[21:25] <shadeslayer> hi,when i try to mount /dev/sda3 it says only root can mount,any way so that i can mount the partition??
[21:25] <mrTr0ut> okay, this isn't exactly ubunut related I guess but....I'm thinking of making the switch from windows to ubuntu, but for work I need a pdf reader that has measurement tools included(for reading blueprints) like brava! reader has...anyone know of an app similar to this?
[21:25] <abstrakt> but it does exist... and the mods-enabled are nothing more than symlinks to mods-available
[21:25] <Dj-Toast> morered: Ya seems like i got in now.. but is there a list of updates somewhere?
[21:25] <G8_Zer0> Any ideas? Tried burning 4 discs... same result
[21:25] <Ymse1> How can I just format and fix the boot sector in Ubuntu.............
[21:25] <abstrakt> and mods-available are nothing more than apache LoadModule directives all broken out into separate files
[21:25] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: use sudo
[21:26] <abstrakt> genii, does that install the mod_dav_svn module also?
[21:26] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: i want to remove the root permission
[21:26] <Jake1> Sound Driver Problem: So I have an NVidia nForce2 that seems to have been properly identified, but I've still got no sound.  Any ideas?
[21:26] <deco> omg i can't belive boliva is beating argentina 3-1 :-O
[21:26] <sebsebseb> !ot |  deco
[21:26] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: also i can only mount it from terminal,nautilus cant see it
[21:26] <Jake1> (And yes I checked the sound levels on comp and equipment)
[21:27] <rhythmsoup> Hi all how can i shutdown a hung machine?
[21:27] <shadeslayer> rhythmsoup: command line?
[21:27] <mikechelen> my trashbin doesn't seem to be emptying, is it possible to delete the files manually from the filesystem?
[21:27] <rhythmsoup> ALT+SYSREQ+REISUB dont work
[21:27] <genii> abstrakt: libapache2-svn does
[21:27] <rhythmsoup> i cant get any keys to work on command line
[21:27] <raddad> rhythmsoup: pull the plug
[21:28] <wizared> rhythmsoup: hold the power button until turns off
[21:28] <shadeslayer> yep
[21:28] <n2diy> do you know your video chip set?
[21:28] <arthurL> ^ that
[21:28] <rhythmsoup> arrgh wont that damage the disc?
[21:28] <n2diy> wizared: do you know your video chip set?
[21:28] <morered> Dj-Toast: try sudo apt-get -u
[21:28] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ??
[21:28] <rhythmsoup> i cant swap ttys using CTRL+ALT+F! etc
[21:28] <rhythmsoup> i can swap i mean
[21:28] <wizared> rhythmsoup: no. only do it when nothing else works.disk will recover
[21:28] <abstrakt> genii, apt-get install libapache2-svn ?
[21:29] <abstrakt> genii, i asked this question before, like an hour ago
[21:29] <abstrakt> no one answered
[21:29] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: i did not understand this "i want to remove the root permission" from where/what ?
[21:29] <morered> wait,  that shows TOBE upgraded, sorry
[21:29] <abstrakt> "how do i install mod_dav_svn through apt-get, do i need to add repos" ?
[21:29] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: once mounted nautilus will be able to access it
[21:29] <abstrakt> so i went to google
[21:29] <abstrakt> and the ubuntuforums page said to build it by hand
[21:29] <abstrakt> freakin, stupid
[21:29] <guntbert> abstrakt: if you press <enter> after every thought its nearly impossible to follow ( genii did obviously :-))
[21:29] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: from /dev/sda3
[21:29] <genii> abstrakt: There's a lot of turnover. Good to ask every so often over a period of hours or more
[21:30] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: earlier it used to show in nautilus
[21:30] <mikechelen> !enter
[21:30] <loserbar> hi everyone. im running windowmaker on a dell xps140m and im trying to get my media keys to work. now, ive notice that when i run nautilus without any flags in terminal my desktop icons appear and it has the general gnome feel... like it should but anyways my media keys also work. so what im asking of anyone here who can help is if they know what nautilus is referring to, to work with my media keys. im running intrepid with a stock x config
[21:30] <loserbar> uration any help would be appreciated.
[21:30] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: what type of partition it is ? ntfs ?
[21:30] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: yes
[21:30] <Wanderer> vi question for the genious.  if I want to s search in vi for patter NOT  ^.~
[21:30] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: dont give me the factoids ive used them ;)
[21:31] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: when you double click on the volume icon in Places>Computer does it mounts ?
[21:31] <abstrakt> genii, guntbert, Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: dav_register_provider
[21:31] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: i cant see them there,thats the main problem
[21:31] <abstrakt> genii, so i assume i'm still missing something...
[21:31] <wizared> n2diy: radeon rv 100 qy   ati technologies
[21:32] <Lego_Dan> um ok on first boot after install its doing this : screen goes black turns off... 15ish seconds later it comes back on with a rather large x in the bottom middle with the _ flashing in the top left.. and repeats..
[21:32] <abstrakt> genii, any idea what i'm missing?
[21:32] <Grenyaris1> in DHCP (dhclient) which script is it that gets the NEW ip address when a lease is renewed?
[21:32] <n2diy> wizared: how about video off the internet, does that work?h
[21:32] <Lego_Dan> and now is stuck on that screen
[21:33] <wizared> n2diy: yes on some not all sites
[21:33] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: have you added it to fstab?
[21:33] <guntbert> abstrakt: I lost track of your problem - what is it you want *actually* to achieve?
[21:33] <nado> Lego_Dan, just got here.. do you have an nvidia card ?
[21:33] <Lego_Dan> no radeon 2400 HD
[21:33] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ill post my fstab,have a look and tell me if its there
[21:33] <Lego_Dan> i rebooted its back at the kubuntu loading screen
[21:33] <Lego_Dan> PCI not AGP
[21:33] <n2diy> Hmmm, that is strange!?...
[21:33] <genii> abstrakt: Looks like it's trying to load the module you compiled, unsuccessfully
[21:34] <abstrakt> guntbert, install mod_dav_svn
[21:34] <n2diy> ! radeon
[21:34] <abstrakt> guntbert, pretty simple... or should be anyway
[21:34] <nado> Lego_Dan, you can check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any obvious errors showing up
[21:34] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142317/
[21:34] <abstrakt> genii, that's what i thought too, but i just deleted the one i made
[21:34] <Lego_Dan> from the kubutnu loading screen monitor turned off. came back on to _ flashing in top left big X in bottom middle
[21:34] <abstrakt> genii, damn this sucks... fucking retarded forum post
[21:34] <Lego_Dan> sure how do i get to a terminal
[21:35] <shadeslayer> Lego_Dan: ctrl+alt+F2
[21:35] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: it is there yes /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_IN 0 0
[21:35] <jpds> abstrakt: Please stay civil.
[21:35] <ellar> !grub > ellar
[21:35] <abstrakt> genii, and upon apt-get remove libapache2-svn; apt-get install libapache2-svn; i get the same error i got when trying to a2enmod the thing manually when i compiled it: "This module does not exist!"
[21:35] <Lego_Dan> i did that logged in and it tried to boot kde right away... so i lost the terminal
[21:35] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: and what do wwe do about it??
[21:36] <shadeslayer> *we
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Lego_Dan: applications  > assessories > terminal
[21:36] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: comment it out
[21:36] <mikechelen> my trashbin doesn't seem to be emptying, is it possible to delete the files manually from the filesystem?
[21:36] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: what!!
[21:36] <Lego_Dan> sebsebseb how do i do that with no window manager?
[21:36] <abstrakt> jpds, i'm just a bit sore cuz this has been a giant waste of time... installing mod_dav_svn has never been this rediculous and i've done it plenty of times, just not on ubuntu
[21:36] <erUSUL> !trash | mikechelen
[21:36] <nado> Lego_Dan, try ctrl+alt+f2 again
[21:37] <shadeslayer> !tty> Lego_Dan
[21:37] <mikechelen> erUSUL, cool thanks
[21:37] <morered> Dj-Toast: you could try installing and running dselect
[21:37] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: put a # infront of the line that begins with /dev/sda3
[21:37] <shadeslayer> ok
[21:37] <scunizi> mikechelen: they typically won't delete because of permission problems with the files.. the link above gives the location.. once there in the directory sudo chmod 777 *
[21:37] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: done
[21:37] <abstrakt> is there a channel pastebin?
[21:37] <abstrakt> !topic
[21:37] <Lego_Dan> thanks shades
[21:37] <abstrakt> ahh, there we go
[21:38] <shadeslayer> Lego_Dan: np
[21:38] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: install ntfs-config and run it « gksudo ntfs-config »
[21:38] <BehiiMehii> What's the package to install the latest nVidia driver?
[21:38] <Elone> do ubuntu got speech recognition software?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> BehiiMehii:  you  get the latest one available in Hardware drivers if one is available
[21:39] <sebsebseb> BehiiMehii: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[21:39] <abstrakt> genii, guntbert, Picassotamus http://paste.ubuntu.com/142321/
[21:39] <Lego_Dan> there is no way that i messed up both passwords...
[21:39] <sebsebseb> BehiiMehii: installing one directly from Nividia should be a last resort
[21:39] <mikechelen> scunizi, there are two subdirs, files and info, both are empty though so maybe trash icon is just not updating
[21:39] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: new device : /dev/sda3
[21:39] <nado> Lego_Dan, the same login / password you use to login in kde ... you must be doing something wrong
[21:40] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: error when applying new device
[21:40] <Lego_Dan> I haven't been able to log into kde it won't even boot kde :P
[21:40] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ** (ntfs-config:9648): WARNING **: Error : An error occured when trying to configure /media/OS, please retry. Thanks.
[21:40] <No-Neck> Hi, I'm having trouble with Ubuntu server, ATi and my 1080p TV, I'm currently stuck with 1776x1000, aticonfig --query-dispattib=tmds1 returns no info and I'm unable to use it to set the proper resolution, any ideas why?
[21:40] <nado> ok Lego_Dan, during installation they asked you for a login / password :)
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Lego_Dan: try #kubuntu
[21:41] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: :|
[21:41] <genii> !info libapache2-svn hardy
[21:41] <shadeslayer> Lego_Dan: is the CD/DVD burned by yourself ??
[21:41] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ?
[21:41] <genii> !info libapache2-svn intrepid
[21:41] <genii> abstrakt: So you are using 9.04?
[21:41] <Lego_Dan> yes. im going to try the install again..atleast fix the password at this point
[21:42] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: no idea what may be wrong... can you mount the partitions via sudo mount without errors?
[21:42] <abstrakt> genii, 8.04 ?
[21:42] <abstrakt> genii, yes
[21:42] <genii> abstrakt:  8.04=hardy  8.10=Intrpid 9.04(which is not released yet)= Jaunty
[21:42] <abstrakt> i'm on hardy
[21:43] <Lego_Dan> haha...
[21:43] <Lego_Dan> Lego isn't the same as leg
[21:43] <Lego_Dan> lego
[21:43] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: lol,i just had a look at fstab again and /dev/sda3 is no where to be seen
[21:43] <kaktus_> what is the channel for jaunty support
[21:43] <guntbert> absr
[21:43] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: mount with sudo works
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[21:44] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: cannot see it tho
[21:44] <kaktus_> thanks
[21:44] <kaktus_> /wc/
[21:44] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: if you do nautilus /media/OS ?
[21:44] <guntbert> abstrakt: I just installed with sudo aptitude install libapache2-svn, and it went through without any errors
[21:44] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: no
[21:45] <abstrakt> guntbert, er... should i use aptitude instead of apt-get ?
[21:45] <wizared> how do you install restricted drivers in 8.10
[21:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: can you point me to a link which can generate my fstab?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: aptitude deals with depandancies better
[21:45] <erUSUL> wizared: System>Admin>hardware drivers
[21:45] <guntbert> abstrakt: maybe try it, its said to resolve dependencies more automatically
[21:45] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: regenerate it ?
[21:45] <abstrakt> guntbert, this doesn't seem to have anything to do with deps
[21:46] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: kind of
[21:46] <wizared> erUSUL: i did that and gave me no options
[21:46] <abstrakt> guntbert, same error when using aptitude
[21:46] <abstrakt> freakin A... i mean really what i need to do basically, is revert the make install that i did when i build subversion by hand
[21:46] <abstrakt> but how do i do that...
[21:46] <wiseman> erUSUL: pro/E is now working great
[21:46] <erUSUL> wizared: what hardware do you want to "enable"
[21:46] <wiseman> thanks
[21:47] <abstrakt> is there such a thing as a reverse to the "make install" command?
[21:47] <erUSUL> wiseman: no problem; glad you made it
[21:47] <danbhfive> abstrakt: make uninstall
[21:47] <wizared> erUSUL: my radeon ati video card
[21:47] <erUSUL> abstrakt: depends on the programer it may have coded a "make uninstall" but most don't
[21:47] <danbhfive> abstrakt: also check out checkinstall for next time
[21:47] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: should i copy my fstab from the paste?
[21:47] <erUSUL> !ati | wizared
[21:47] <guntbert> abstrakt: look in the logs, maybe the error stems from something different and is misinterpreted
[21:48] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: you just need the line that dissapeared... if you want to restore it
[21:48] <wizared> erUSUL: followed that and there is no entry for intrepid
[21:48] <abstrakt> guntbert, er... which logs? there are lots of logs...
[21:48] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ok
[21:49] <Lego_Dan> ok nobody in kubuntu seems to be active.
[21:49] <Ymse1> How can I reset the Mater Boot Record with the Ubuntu instalation CD???
[21:49] <erUSUL> wizared: what radeon model do you have ?
[21:49] <shadeslayer> !grub> Ymse1
[21:49] <guntbert> abstrakt: just to compare: my output is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/142328/
[21:49] <abstrakt> omg... apt-get autoremove subversion and i removed libapache2-svn and when i go to reinstall them
[21:49] <abstrakt> i get the same error
[21:49] <mickey> whats the gnome program that shows processess it's like windows task manager
[21:49] <abstrakt> grrr... myabe need to reinstall apache i guess
[21:50] <Picassotamus> mickey: System Monitor i believe
[21:50] <wizared> erUSUL: RV 100 QY also Radeon 700 ve
[21:50] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: atleast i can access the partition now
[21:50] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ill come back tommorow
[21:50] <shadeslayer> sleepy
[21:50] <genii> abstrakt: Apologies on lag, work required me. Enable optional repositories, which is where this package is located as indicated by the bot
[21:51] <erUSUL> wizared: then you should use the free radeon driver... i think that fglrx does not support that old hardware
[21:51] <mickey> Picassotamus, how do u make it launch with ctrl alt del
[21:51] <erUSUL> wizared: that's why it does not show up in Hardware drivers
[21:51] <genii> !info libapache2-svn hardy > genii
[21:51] <abstrakt> genii, er... wait, "this" package? which package is "this" package?
[21:51] <genii> No, it's in main
[21:52] <abstrakt> genii, my repos seem to be finding the two just fine
[21:52] <Picassotamus> mickey: no idea sorry
[21:52] <abstrakt> genii, i don't think i need to change/add repos
[21:52] <wizared> erUSUL: thank you
[21:53] <bugge> hi
[21:54] <rhythmsou1> hi, does anyone know if there are drivers for the "Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" in 8.04?
[21:55] <erUSUL> rhythmsou1: which ones? « lspci | grep -i vga »
[21:55] <abstrakt> screw it, i'm gonna reformat the server, the thing is brand new anyway
[21:55] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, genii, should i go with 8.04 or 8.10? suggestions?
[21:55] <abstrakt> i have a bunch of options, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu
[21:55] <morered> mickey: command gnome-system-monitor   see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[21:55] <abstrakt> i would prefer Ubuntu i think
[21:55] <genii> abstrakt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libapache2-svn shows required prerequisites are: apache2.2-common libc6 and libsvn1   ... maybe check that these are installed
[21:56] <rhythmsou1> erUSUL: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[21:56] <abstrakt> genii, well apache is def installed
[21:56] <mickey>    for some reason when i start firefox it starts in a semi-full mode like i can't see my applications on the bottom or my close or maximize buttons on the top... how do I change this?
[21:56] <abstrakt> genii, so i can only assume that means that apache2.2-common is installed too
[21:56] <krushik> does ubuntu have some kind of "testing" (like in debian) repository?  i have libqt4-webkit 4.4.1  but 4.4.3 is needed
[21:56] <Picassotamus> abstrakt: I tend to stick w/ the LTS version of ubuntu 8.04 in this case
[21:56] <abstrakt> i can only assume that libc6 is installed too
[21:56] <morered> F11?
[21:56] <abstrakt> Picassotamus, k
[21:56] <genii> abstrakt: You can check with syntax like:  apt-cache policy <packagename>
[21:57] <magomartino> Hello everybody, is anyone experienced with user mode linux and tuntap connectivity?
[21:58] <rhythmsou1> erUSUL: my "Lshw" shows both displays as "unclaimed" but the display works ok, its just when I play an .avi movie it kills the whole machine regardless of the movie player it seems
[21:58] <the10nitro> is there a command line tool to view text-only pdfs?
[21:59] <zash> the10nitro: there is a cli tool to dump text from a pdf
[21:59] <the10nitro> What is it?
[21:59] <zash> The program 'pdftotext' can be found in the following packages: * poppler-utils * xpdf-utils
[22:00] <morered> magomartino: more details pls
[22:00] <the10nitro> zash: Thank you, that is what I needed!
[22:00] <erUSUL> rhythmsou1: maybe they use xv and it is a bug with it... try "mplayer -vo x11 video_file"
[22:01] <keystr0k> Okay... so can the USER be automatically created for new files/folders like the group id can?  set uid recursively?
[22:01] <magomartino> ok, actually I've been able to create a user mode linux machine, problem is that I'd like to connect it with my lan connection
[22:01] <zash> the10nitro: glad i could help
[22:01] <tanjaundkai> nabend...
[22:02] <tanjaundkai> #ubuntuuser-wiki
[22:02] <tanjaundkai> which language is spoken here?
[22:02] <magomartino> a solution was to enable ipforwarding in proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding and then connect the eth0 of the virtual machine to a tap device in the host machine
[22:03] <magomartino> but somehow it didn't worked in my machine
[22:04] <guntbert> tanjaundkai: english only, please
[22:04] <jmacfuzed> anyone here have any experience with highpoint PCI-E raid cards and ubuntu?
[22:04] <tanjaundkai> thanx - its my broken schoolenglish - but i hope you will understand me
[22:05] <ursusss> I have problem with the grub file. I wanted to merge 2 NTFS partitions on WinXP, and a reboot was needed. After that neither grub, neither the xp program could start. I use Xubuntu LiveCD now.
[22:05] <bobessutio> I know it's slightly offtopic... but does anybody know about register.com being down? Do they run linux on their servers? Is it part of a larger issues?
[22:05] <tanjaundkai> when i will change my ubuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 - how i can get my new ubuntu to my same settings???
[22:06] <morered> magomartino: sorry no clue
[22:06] <ursusss> I tried to reinstall grub file, here is the error message: http://pastebin.com/d16aa7be And here is my hard drive, really chaotic now:  http://pastebin.com/d3ac1390c
[22:06] <guntbert> !jaunty | tanjaundkai
[22:06] <dreamy> is there any network manager similar to wicd .. but for debian  ?
[22:07] <guntbert> !de | und dann, tanjaundkai
[22:07] <erUSUL> dreamy: debian is offtopic here ask in #debian. wicd should work in debian too
[22:07] <dreamy> ops .. ok
[22:09] <tanjaundkai> ubottu: thank you for your help! have a nice n8 - good bye
[22:09] <tanjaundkai> join #ubuntu-de
[22:09] <guntbert> tanjaundkai: /join.... :-))
[22:10] <Guest48127> i have an onboard video driver, and i installed an AGP card, and now the onboard doesnt work...does anyone know how to fix it?
[22:10] <tanjaundkai> guntbert: its very hard to detect a real greenhorn?   lol
[22:11] <Exelis> Anybody here that can help with a Panel / app window issue?
[22:11] <guntbert> tanjaundkai: no problem, everybody is a greenhorn sometimes, somewhere :-))
[22:11] <erUSUL> !ask | Exelis
[22:11] <guntbert> !anyone | Exelis
[22:11] <p0rtw0rf> Hey guys
[22:12] <p0rtw0rf> Is there anybody up there? ^^
[22:12] <freethewhat> having connection issues with nm-applet 0.7.0 is there a good place for documentation?
[22:12] <n2diy> can you read your cpu temp. from the terminal?
[22:12] <Guest48127> how to get AGP card and onboard video to work as dual monitor?
[22:12] <Exelis> ok...My panels no longer display icons for open applications/windows, and when I minimize I have to alt-tab to bring these windows back up, since the icons are not present on the Panel. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:12] <tanjaundkai> guntbert: when i type /join ubuntu-de - nothing happens... greenhorn-greatings
[22:13] <tanjaundkai> oh... wait.
[22:13] <p0rtw0rf> Can anyone tell me if aircrack is possible and worklng on psp or iPhone?
[22:13] <guntbert> tanjaundkai: you need /join #ubuntu-de
[22:13] <n2diy> tanjaundkai: you forgot the #
[22:13] <abstrakt> which startup file is the one that happens only once? is it .bashrc or .bash_profile?
[22:14] <jrib> abstrakt: use ~/.profile
[22:15] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: i think i found it ,http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250548
[22:15] <abstrakt> jrib, k, why?
[22:15] <abstrakt> jrib, i can't remember the difference
[22:15] <jrib> abstrakt: eh?  it's the one that gets executed once (at login)
[22:16] <Mascodo> salam
[22:16] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: what do you think?
[22:16] <guntbert> abstrakt: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/etcprofile-v.s.-etcbashrc-273992/
[22:17] <abstrakt> jrib, so how do you know that i should use ~/.profile, you don't even know what i want to do with it yet...
[22:17] <abstrakt> guntbert, thanks
[22:17] <abstrakt> click*
[22:17] <jrib> abstrakt: you said you wanted the one that was only sourced once...
[22:17] <guntbert> abstrakt: yw :)
[22:18] <jrib> abstrakt: if there's more to it, then please continue..
[22:18] <abstrakt> jrib, no i said which one is it
[22:18] <Exelis> My main panel (default position at screen bottom) no longer displays window/app icons to switch around/minimize-maximize. Is there a fix for this?
[22:18] <shadeslayer>  /quit Tired......sleeping
[22:18] <abstrakt> jrib, so things like alias ll="ls -l"
[22:19] <abstrakt> jrib, should that go into rc or profile?
[22:19] <leagris> Anyone can help on error : cat /dev/pole gives "there is no fish yet"
[22:19] <jrib> abstrakt: doesn't matter, they go into .bashrc usually though (there are commented ones in the default one)
[22:20] <guntbert> leagris: not here please
[22:21] <centHOGGr> hi, I can't start my xserver coming from just a ubuntu server install.. aptitude install LXDE .. reboot .. no X
[22:21] <erUSUL> centHOGGr: startx gives ? wnhat error ?
[22:22] <centHOGGr> erUSUL: hi, it gives a segmentation fault
[22:22] <erUSUL> :|
[22:22] <abstrakt> jrib, k thx
[22:22] <centHOGGr> erUSUL: I wonder if lxde loads all the xserver components?
[22:23] <centHOGGr> i had to load xinit myself... is that important
[22:23] <erUSUL> centHOGGr: not really sure... but a segmentation fault is not easy to debug by us nonprogramers...
[22:24] <centHOGGr> erUSUL: would you know if it is possible to load xubuntu-lxde without all the bells and whistles?
[22:24] <tihomir> j add
[22:24] <centHOGGr> open office
[22:24] <erUSUL> centHOGGr: nope sorry... maybe in #ubuntu-server someone faced the same problem
[22:24] <centHOGGr> thx
[22:26] <Squarc> Hi there, is this message received?
[22:26] <Squarc> hmm :( guess network broke up again :(
[22:28] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> Hi Administrators, I need a help or an answer.
[22:28] <rickest> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: just ask
[22:28] <Nytrix> will windows xp read ext2 or ext3?
[22:28] <talntid> Hey all. I am having some trouble with pptp tunneling...
[22:28] <jrib> !ext3 | Nytrix
[22:28] <talntid> vpn
[22:29] <talntid> all my settings appear correct, and used to work like this.. but no longer do...
[22:29] <talntid> but another machine can connect to the remote server... works fine
[22:29] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> ok I haven't received Ubuntu's new version since about November 1 until now. I have done that with shipit from that time.
[22:29] <joakimk> What do I have to do to be able to play video (avi, mpg, etc) in Ubuntu 8?
[22:30] <Nytrix> which is better ex2 or 3?
[22:30] <Nytrix> ext2 or 3?
[22:30] <SlimeyPete> erm, it should just work, joakimk
[22:30] <SlimeyPete> Nytrix: 3
[22:30] <Nytrix> thnx
[22:30] <rickest> joakimk: google vlc and w32codecs
[22:30] <rickest> Nytrix: ext3
[22:30] <rickest> joakimk: and 'ubuntu' of course
[22:30] <joakimk> SlimeyPete: Well, I double click an avi file, and Totem opens. And quits again... :)
[22:30] <jgreen> is there a data capture program like charles for ubuntu?
[22:31] <SlimeyPete> joakimk: ah. Yeah, try VLC (VideoLAN Client)
[22:31] <SlimeyPete> Totem is pretty rubbish
[22:31] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I can put a message in shipit here. 1st request -> It supposes to arrive here long time ago. I never receive it. I had to try to make a new request. It said denied.
[22:31] <joakimk> SlimeyPete: But VLC also just shuts down immediately
[22:31] <simard> since yesterday X crashes and its log and dmesg point me to: mtrr: base(0xda000000) is not aligned on a size(0x5000000) boundary, anyone knows what this means ? it would seem it's a video driver bug, but I havent touched that recently...
[22:31] <joakimk> I have it installed
[22:32] <SlimeyPete> joakimk: hrm, strange
[22:32] <SlimeyPete> sounds like it might be a problem with XV or your video driver
[22:32] <freethewhat> having connection issues with nm-applet 0.7.0 is there a good place for documentation?
[22:32] <crdlb> joakimk: run gstreamer-properties, go to the video tab and click Test under Default Output
[22:32] <simard> SlimeyPete, XV ?
[22:33] <tanjaundkai> #ubuntu-de
[22:33] <SlimeyPete> simard: XV is the main video acceleration library under Linux. Most players use it by default.
[22:33] <centHOGGr> hi, how can you change xserver to only use the vesa driver? thx
[22:33] <joakimk> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142355/ is the error message I get
[22:34] <crdlb> joakimk: ok, it is an XVideo problem :)
[22:34] <crdlb> joakimk: what video card?
[22:34] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> First request like this. I never receive this.
[22:34] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> 1 CDs requested on 2008-11-09. 1 CDs were approved and sent to the shipping company on 2008-11-10. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6
[22:34] <joakimk> crdlb: Radeon X1300
[22:34] <cpk1> it should be fairly easy and straight forward to set up a dns that resolves everything to a certain page right?  (would like to rick roll everyone at my house =P)
[22:34] <crdlb> joakimk: using fglrx or radeon?
[22:34] <mrsteveman1> ughh, upgrading to jaunty kernel switched my device names around, always fun realizing you just made a new filesystem on the disk with your data and DD'd the old one
[22:34] <joakimk> crdlb: uh... radeon? I think? Do you mean driver, or hardware?
[22:34] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I tried 2nd request again. It says like this.
[22:34] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> 1 CDs requested on 2009-02-10. This request was not approved, so no CDs were shipped.
[22:35] <crdlb> joakimk: driver (have you enabled the restricted driver?)
[22:35] <crdlb> joakimk: if you're using radeon, then you can just switch to EXA
[22:35] <joakimk> crdlb: no, I don't think I've enabled any restricted driver
[22:35] <joakimk> crdlb: EXA?
[22:35] <crdlb> joakimk: the old mode (XAA) cannot support textured video with a compositing manager, so you need to switch to the new one (EXA)
[22:36] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> That supposes to arrive here like about 6 weeks. I never get it from you guys.
[22:36] <crdlb> joakimk: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" in Section "Device"
[22:36] <Grenyaris1> Anybody know this? DHCP (dhclient) which script is it that gets the NEW ip address when a lease is renewed? Exit script or Enter script?
[22:36] <joakimk> crdlb: So that's still Radeon drivers, then?
[22:37] <crdlb> joakimk: yep, and jaunty will use EXA by default
[22:37] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> You know what's going on with this, rickest?
[22:38] <OmniDrink> I tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.
[22:38] <Matson> do apt-get and dpkg work on ubuntu?
[22:38] <joakimk> crdlb: Right now, I only have one line in my Device section: "Identifier      "Configured Video Device" Just add a new line here?
[22:38] <Matson> similar to the same commands on debian?
[22:38] <crdlb> joakimk: yep
[22:38] <joakimk> crdlb: ...and restart X?
[22:38] <crdlb> joakimk: yes
[22:38] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I already sent an email to shipit. I never receive an email from them too.
[22:38] <joakimk> crdlb: OK, thanks! See you on the other side ;)
[22:38] <RedMushroom> can anyone tell me how to use smart boot manager in xp?
[22:39] <jtsmeed> Hi folks.  Problem with Phenom X4 only using one core (not responding...  during boot).  Problem only exists if Logitech USB receiver is plugged in while booting.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[22:39] <OmniDrink>  I tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.
[22:39] <Matson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103462 from 2005  says that yes - they do.   wondering if that is still accurate, specifically in 8.04 LTS
[22:39] <RedMushroom> what do you need to use smart boot manager (sbm) besides sbminst.exe and a floppy?
[22:40] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I guess administrators are not here.
[22:40] <oCean_> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: In this channel you'll mostly find volunteers
[22:40] <rhythmsoup> ﻿Hi I have a problem with a Dell E6400, when I play a AVI file the whole machine stops responding http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6996391#post6996391
[22:40] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> ok what channel are administrators in? I need to speak with them.
[22:40] <RedMushroom> does anyone know where i can find a tutorial on how to use smart boot manager with xp?
[22:41] <OmniDrink>  I tried to install the creative video converter in WINE for my Zen. When I press install my screen completely went black except for the cursor. I shut it down with the power button tried again. The Same thing happened.
[22:41] <rickest> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: no, I'm sorry I don't.  from what you wrote it appears the first request was given to a shipper for delivery. that might account for the refusal of the second request.  I just don't know, sorry
[22:41] <Matson> I'm looking at installing ubuntu for te first time
[22:42] <erUSUL> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: administrators of what?
[22:42] <Matson> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download shows 8.04 and 8.10
[22:42] <jmacfuzzy> ok, i need some help! i rendered the machine non-booting because i didn't rmmod and delete sata_mv after loading my newly-compiled highpoint rocketraid 2300 driver. i'm on the livecd now, is there any way to get my install back up and running?
[22:42] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I sent the email to them one month ago. I got no words from them.
[22:42] <Grenyaris1> OmniDrink: There is a list of supported applications under Wine, is the Creative Manager one of them?
[22:42] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> administrators who are in charge with Ubuntu.com
[22:42] <Matson> what factors go into chosing which one to use?
[22:42] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: you can mount the ubuntu partition and manipulate files within
[22:42] <jmacfuzzy> i have it mounted
[22:42] <jmacfuzzy> but i can't seem to remove the sata_mv.ko
[22:43] <jmacfuzzy> not sudo, nothin
[22:43] <newuser> hi all, just installed 8.04 onto this laptop (please dont ask why 8.04 I have my reasons)....anyway ctrl-alt-bkspace does not restart x....could it be something with this keyboard or is the feature disabled???  Suggestions?
[22:44] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: what's the error you get when you try to rm it?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> newuser:  8.04  that's alright,  having 8.04
[22:44] <mesut> can i send a popup like message,to users logged in gnome (from console as root)
[22:44] <Matson> what is teh difference between 8.04 and 8.10?
[22:44] <Veronika_sweet> hi to all!
[22:44] <Matson> it is as simple as a dist-upgrade to go from 8.04 to 8.10?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Matson: not much,  except completly different versions of  Xorg
[22:45] <jmacfuzzy> let me try it, hold up
[22:45] <Grenyaris1> OmniDrink: I am not sure it is...but if not, you can go to CodeWeavers web site and order up CrossOver...
[22:45] <oCean_> Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-: well I think you should try and contact the shipit guys again. The ops here don't have anything to do with the media shipping
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Veronika_sweet: hello
[22:45] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Matson
[22:45] <newuser> ﻿sebsebseb so why is ctrl-alt bkspace not working ( i did use displayconfig-gtk to get 1024x768 rez.) Could that have messed something up?
[22:45] <Veronika_sweet> How can I upgrade my repositories?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> newuser: unfortunatlly I don't know about that one,  and have you installed the graphics card driver
[22:45] <rickest> Matson: it's also best to do a fresh install if possible but personally I've dist-upgraded the last 3 times without any problems except very small tweaks
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !repo
[22:45] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> ok I will come back if I never receive the email from them again.
[22:45] <Matson> will there be a 9.04?
[22:46] <Matson> and will it be LTS?
[22:46] <erUSUL> Veronika_sweet: define "upgrade repositories" what do you want to achieve ?
[22:46] <Veronika_sweet> I only have repositories of old programmes
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Matson:  April 23rd  9.04  and it won't be LTS
[22:46] <lstarnes> Matson: 9.10 will be LTS
[22:46] <jmacfuzzy> ok, so it worked this time
[22:46] <crdlb> lstarnes: 10.04
[22:46] <jmacfuzzy> i used the -f to force it, that worked
[22:46] <erUSUL> Matson:  yes ther wilol be a 9.04 no it is not LTS
[22:46] <Veronika_sweet> 642389685.04
[22:46] <Veronika_sweet> hahahaha
[22:46] <newuser> ﻿sebsebseb when I run hardware drivers, I get no proprietary drivers
[22:47] <Matson> thanks sebsebseb lstarnes erUSUL
[22:47] <jmacfuzzy> will the kernel simply not load that sata_mv.ko module since it's gone next time that I boot?
[22:47] <erUSUL> Veronika_sweet: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:47] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> I sent it
[22:47] <sebsebseb> newuser: damn that issue :(.   Linux distros are great, but xorg isn't
[22:47] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: probably... a better approach is to blacklist it
[22:47] <newuser> ﻿sebsebseb, should I try to select different driver when running displayconfig-gtk?
[22:48] <sebsebseb> newuser: I am not sure,  just stick around, and someone else, can probably help
[22:48] <jmacfuzzy> erUSUL: can you explain blacklisting to me?
[22:48] <Grenyaris1> Veronika_sweet: your repositories are geared to have the programs compatible with your version of the operating system. So long as newer versions of programs will run on your kernel, you have the latest version.
[22:48] <macman_> hey
[22:48] <newuser> right now it says i810 sebsebseb
[22:48] <macman_> how can i break a symbolik link ?
[22:48] <macman_> ln -s creats it .. how do i break it
[22:48] <erUSUL> !blacklist | jmacfuzzy
[22:48] <RedMushroom> where can i d/l cwsdpmi.exe? why do i need it to use sbminst.exe?
[22:48] <jmacfuzzy> thank you, sir
[22:48] <sixhat> macman_: rm it...
[22:49] <Ex-QuAke[DOD]-M-> see you later
[22:49] <Matson> can we get 9.04 now?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> newuser: if there's a graphics card driver availalbe get it
[22:49] <oCean_> Matson: you can get a beta release.
[22:49] <Grenyaris1> Isn't 9.04 in BETA yet?
[22:49] <macman_> sixhat, rm what ? the source or what ?
[22:49] <sebsebseb> Matson: yes, but  for various reasons    not  the best idea
[22:49] <Matson> and simply update as needed until/after release?
[22:49] <erUSUL> Matson: yes a beta version help in #ubuntu+1 not here
[22:49] <oCean_> Grenyaris1: yes
[22:49] <erUSUL> !jaunty | Matson
[22:49] <sixhat> macman_: rm the link
[22:50] <timahvo1> hi. how can I resume installing a package with apt-get install that was interrupted by a break in my internet connection ?
[22:50] <Grenyaris1> Right, so macman_...NOT the best of ideas, but not the worst either...
[22:50] <macman_> yea
[22:50] <macman_> lol it worked
[22:50] <soluxione> e yo
[22:50] <Grenyaris1> sorry "Matson" not "macman_
[22:50] <Matson> thanks
[22:51] <jmacfuzzy> erUSUL: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist sound right (no my_blacklist)
[22:51] <newuser> ﻿sebsebseb how do I see what one I currently have from command line
[22:51] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me i can't get ubuntu to properly control my laptop's internal fans
[22:51] <soluxione> Hello to somebody.....
[22:51] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: maybe to generic... you can name it my_raidcard_blacklist so you know at a glance why the file is there
[22:52] <Grenyaris1> However, Matson, I have friends who run Debian Unstable...so, it all depends on the level of pain you are willing to suffer... but even with that, I would easily upgrade to Ubuntu's latest before I would even think about Upgrading to Microsoft's latest...
[22:52] <jmacfuzzy> ah i thought i was just supposed to tail something to the existing blacklist
[22:52] <noren_> is there any way to know the details of the PSU from the konsole
[22:53] <sebsebseb> newuser: you don't normalley,  you just install the graphics card driver that is available the latest one, and  that's that :)   restart  x
[22:53] <sebsebseb> newuser: and hope everything works
[22:53] <Matson> how long will 8.10 be supported?
[22:53] <oCean_> noren_: I'm not sure if the information you want is there, but try "sudo lshw -C power"
[22:53] <sebsebseb> newuser: and if not you can go to recovery mode on the boot loader, to get x back to how it was
[22:53] <noren_> leme try
[22:53] <soluxione> Italian men for help me?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Matson: 18 months
[22:54] <soluxione> Italian men for help me?
[22:54] <erUSUL> !it | soluxione
[22:54] <soluxione> Italian men for help me?
[22:54] <sebsebseb> Matson: standard releases such as  8.10 and 9.04 get 18 months of suppourt, where as long term suppourt releasese such as 8.04  get  3 years suppourt on the desktop and 5 on the server
[22:54] <noren_> oCean_: nothing came up
[22:54] <oCean_> noren_: In that case, it's only for batteries I guess
[22:54] <soluxione> OK! Thank's.....
[22:55] <Matson> are the packages for 8.04 desktop and 8.04 server different?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Matson: and  so LTS's  aren't really considered a downgrade even,  plus slightly more cutting edge stuff with be in the versions before the next LTS
[22:55] <jmacfuzzy> erUSUL: ok, i see other files in the directory with names like that
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Matson: no they will use the same stuff
[22:55] <Grenyaris1> Ok, so since I am not getting a response about dhclient's scripts, how about a suggestion for the following idea -- I want to run ddclient ONLY when my external IP address changes (hence the desire to know when the IP lease is renewed, in exit or entry script for dhclient)...currently ddclient runs ALWAYS...but I don't need that...and I don't want to worry about it manually... Any Ideas?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Matson: you can get the server stuff in the desktop version
[22:55] <jmacfuzzy> are the files just parsed and the "blacklisted" part looked for?
[22:55] <erUSUL> Matson: no; you just get a different selection of packages installed by default
[22:55] <Matson> just more packages in the default list for server?
[22:55] <noren_> oCean_: how can i get more info abt my PSU
[22:55] <Matson> right
[22:55] <crdlb> Matson: it also uses a different kernel by default
[22:56] <jmacfuzzy> meaning like you said, it wouldn't matter what i named it as long as i had the blacklisted <modulename> in there
[22:56] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: yep probably they are all cated together and the fed to modprobe
[22:56] <jmacfuzzy> i think i understand the process now
[22:56] <Matson> crdlb: really?
[22:56] <jmacfuzzy> thanks for your help, i'm gonna see if that worked with a reboot
[22:56] <jmacfuzzy> we'll see if i come back from the dead here
[22:56] <crdlb> Matson: -server instead of -generic
[22:56] <erUSUL> jmacfuzzy: as long as it is in the /etc/modprobe.d/ dir too
[22:57] <jmacfuzzy> got it
[22:57] <oCean_> noren_: don't know, really
[22:57] <spaceBARbarian> how can i fix this: ubuntu doesnt push my laptop's internal fans to high speed when the temperatures are high, they are always at the slow setting
[22:57] <bright> eae
[22:57] <bright> algum br aqui?
[22:57] <erUSUL> !br
[22:57] <bright> vlw
[22:58] <Matson> are the amd64 server kernels smp
[22:58] <Ienorand> how can I make the find command show no errors/output messages?
[22:59] <Athenon> CHEAP INTERNET NOW!   http://www.google.com/tisp
[22:59] <Grenyaris1> erUSUL: Oxi! Kanenas etho melai Portuguesa... mas sighorietai!
[22:59] <t-rob> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and linux. i would like to know how i modify conky config. i don't know the terminal command, and when i go through the.. GUI i get access denied.
[22:59] <soluxione> Hemm.... Sorry i have missed the link for the italian chat! Can we get me? Thank's!
[22:59] <PickleMan> me loves ubuntu
[22:59] <erUSUL> Matson: all ubuntu kernels are (except i386 iirc)
[22:59] <Matson> are there scratch that - I was looking at "dedicated smp"...  looks like smp is supported
[23:00] <PickleMan> Hey
[23:00] <Matson> erUSUL: thanks
[23:00] <PickleMan> are there any wireless drivers for ubuntu
[23:00] <PickleMan> prob not
[23:00] <soluxione> Hemm.... Sorry i have missed the link for the italian chat! Can we get me? Thank's!
[23:00] <nightrid3r> !it | soluxione
[23:00] <abstrakt> soluxione, #ubuntu-it ?
[23:00] <spaceBARbarian> how can i fix this: ubuntu doesnt push my laptop's internal fans to high speed when the temperatures are high, they are always at the slow setting
[23:00] <erUSUL> PickleMan: there are many
[23:01] <soluxione> Thank's....:!
[23:01] <erUSUL> !wifi | PickleMan
[23:01] <PickleMan> really?
[23:01] <PickleMan> thanks
[23:01] <Fire^fox> i have a question... i need to know what drivers i am using for my wireless usb card
[23:01] <PickleMan> meh loves ubuntu
[23:01] <abstrakt> Fire^fox, lsmod ?
[23:01] <Grenyaris1> spaceBARbarian: It sounds like you need to find some Linux tools for the Motherboard...there are some for Asus boards...but not sure about others...and completely unsure about laptops...but it would be worth a search...
[23:01] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: lshw -C Network
[23:01] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: look the details for your usb wifi
[23:02] <Matson> looks like I'm going with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.2/ubuntu-8.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:02] <Matson> thanks all for your help
[23:02] <epaphus> hey guys, iam trying to play a .wmv file.. but it says its encrypted and decryption isnt supported.. any suggestions?
[23:02] <spaceBARbarian> Grenyaris1: i haven an intel 915M motherboard, do i just search for tools for that ?
[23:03] <Grenyaris1> epaphus: with what are you trying to play the wmv file?
[23:03] <Fire^fox> ok i listed it but now i need the driver name to mount on kismet
[23:03] <Grenyaris1> spaceBARbarian: Yes, that would be where to start...I think there are also generic tools for generic functions, like fan speeds, etc...
[23:04] <AngelOfMercy> hello
[23:04] <spaceBARbarian> Grenyaris1: yeah i have a dell laptop, i was hoping there was some tool to help me interact with the dell bios
[23:04] <AngelOfMercy> can someone assist me please
[23:04] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: there is a line in lshw output that reads configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2500pci ip=10.0.0.2 latency=32 module=rt2500pci multicast=yes wireless=IE
[23:04] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: that tells you the driver is rt2500pci
[23:04] <newuser> sebsebseb and anyone else, could the system have misdetected my keyboard and that is why ctrl-alt-backspace is not working to kill x
[23:04] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: that's my case
[23:05] <PhotoJim> !ask > AngelOfMercy
[23:05] <PhotoJim> !ask
[23:05] <the10nitro> is it possible to set up a link (hard or soft) so that file1 is "cat file2 file2"?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> newuser: I think that feature may have even been removed in 9.04, but yeah your on 8.04
[23:06] <epaphus> Grenyaris1,   Movie Player
[23:06] <AngelOfMercy> i have an M-Audio Revolution 5.1 and i don`t know how to configure
[23:06] <AngelOfMercy> i`m a novice in linux
[23:06] <AngelOfMercy> but i figured out how to install it
[23:07] <AngelOfMercy> the problem is that i don`t know how to made this m-audio work to hear surround when i play movies
[23:07] <oCean_> the10nitro: I don't understand your question. A link is just (what in windows is called) a shortcut
[23:07] <sebsebseb> AngelOfMercy: hummmmmm  maybe it won't work with Linux, because no  suppourt, because of the manufacture, or you got to  configure it big time
[23:08] <AngelOfMercy> i have Ubuntu installed
[23:08] <sebsebseb> !sound |  AngelOfMercy
[23:08] <sebsebseb> AngelOfMercy: what the bot gave might be useful, but  probably not as such
[23:08] <newuser> i count 86 actual keys, with a numbers under jkl etc.  how to tell what keyboard this is?
[23:08] <noren> is there any hardware support channel anyone
[23:08] <noren> !hardware
[23:09] <RedMushroom> anyone know why i would be getting an error "current drive is no longer valid" from DOS when trying to access a:\?
[23:09] <LjL> RedMushroom: eh? did you check the name of this channel? :o
[23:09] <RedMushroom> yeah
[23:09] <RedMushroom> it's a:\
[23:09] <epaphus> guys.. how can I view .wmv file on ubuntu?
[23:09] <MenZa> !restricted | epaphus
[23:09] <LjL> !offtopic | RedMushroom
[23:10] <Knight```> Can someone tell me how can I get Call of Duty 2 + Wine working.
[23:10] <Knight```> it seems to freeze at the logo.
[23:11] <erUSUL> !appdb | Knight```
[23:11] <newuser> specs page from sony says 86 qwerty keyboard layout (but hwinfo says Generic 105-key (Intl)?  How to set right one?
[23:11] <Grenyaris1> epaphus: Try installing Xine...and then install the Codecs...they work on my machine just fine...
[23:12] <jtsmeed> Only one of four Phenom cores is working.  Problem narrowed down to Logitech bluetooth receiver.  Suggestions?
[23:12] <Fire^fox> on: broadcast=yes ip=192.168.1.4 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 8
[23:12] <ivan_> hello
[23:12] <Fire^fox> is this the drive ?
[23:12] <the10nitro> ﻿oCean_: there are 2 types of links in *nix.  symbolic/sym/soft and hard.  In Windows < Vista symlinks exist as "junction points", with the exception that junction points can only link folders, not files.  In Vista symbolic links exist to make *nix programs easier to port.
[23:12] <ivan_> i need help
[23:12] <Grenyaris1> Anyone know the inner workings of dhclient and DHCP?
[23:12] <erUSUL> Fire^fox: the driver is the one that reads driver=whatever or module=whatever
[23:13] <ivan_> i use Ubuntu, but i need Edubuntu
[23:13] <Sinkro63> I removed evolution and then it asked if some other stuff should be removed to and I answered Yes. (that  was stupid). Now I dont have any panel at the top. How do I get it back?
[23:13] <skinofstars1> ivan_: then get the meta-package from synaptic
[23:13] <abstrakt> ivan_, sooo... install the stuff that Edubuntu comes with?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> ivan_: do you really?  you can install  most of the edubuntu apps into  standard Ubuntu
[23:13] <abstrakt> ahh, meta package
[23:13] <Blueeee> is ubuntu free? "The latest release of Ubuntu brings the best open source technologies together on one platform, with the benefit of free updates for 18 months."
[23:13] <erUSUL> Sinkro63: install the package ubuntu-desktop
[23:13] <Fire^fox> notheing saying such
[23:13] <abstrakt> ivan_, yeah the diff ubuntu's are just prepackaged, you can still setup ubuntu however you want
[23:13] <newuser> hi all, not sure 8.04 detected my keyboard right since this is 86 key laptop keyboard and 8.04 has it listed as 105 generic
[23:13] <sebsebseb> Blueeee: free as in price and freedom
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[23:13] <Sinkro63> thanx
[23:13] <PhotoJim> Blueeee: Yes, free.  The only price is for professional support, if you want it.
[23:14] <abstrakt> Blueeee, yes it's free
[23:14] <AngelOfMercy> is someone here who can help me configure my sound card named M-Audio Revolution 5.1 on Ubuntu?
[23:14] <skinofstars1> freedom!!!!
[23:14] <ivan_> ok byt i need aplications of edubuntu
[23:14] <Blueeee> ty
[23:14] <abstrakt> ivan_, so install them
[23:14] <PhotoJim> AngelOfMercy: don't forget to mention it's specifically 5.1 audio you're having trouble with, that normal audio works.
[23:14] <abstrakt> ivan_, we just told you what to do...
[23:14] <ivan_> i dont know how
[23:14] <sebsebseb> ivan_: Edubuntu is a add on CD I think now, for the Ubuntu Desktop CD
[23:14] <abstrakt> ivan_, ahh
[23:14] <Grenyaris1> spaceBARbarian: I don't know how much help this is, but... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
[23:15] <sebsebseb> ivan_: go here http://www.edubuntu.org
[23:15] <abstrakt> what's the command to search with apt?
[23:15] <AngelOfMercy> the normal audio works, the problem is that i don`t hear movies 5.1
[23:15] <abstrakt> apt-get find? apt-get list? apt-get search?
[23:15] <sebsebseb> ivan_: make sure to md5sum any CD before burning also
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[23:15] <AngelOfMercy> i hear only 2 channels
[23:15] <erUSUL> abstrakt: aptitude search «string»
[23:15] <abstrakt> erUSUL, thx
[23:15] <newuser> big problem is ctrl-alt-backspace not working
[23:15] <skinofstars1> ivan_: system>administration>synaptic package manager>filter by sections>meta package> tick>apply
[23:16] <tech_help> hi, if the hosts.deny file is changed, does sshd need to be bounced in order for the change to take effect?
[23:16] <ynk> would you guys vouch for Frostwire or do you use another program for downloading and such?
[23:16] <ivan_> sebsebseb: I donwloaded Edubuntu 8.10 i386
[23:16] <sebsebseb> ynk: Frostwire for small  files, torrents for big files
[23:17] <sebsebseb> !torrents
[23:17] <ivan_> and burn to CD
[23:17] <oCean_> newuser: what version is your installation?
[23:17] <sebsebseb> ivan_: maybe Edubuntu 8.04 is a bit better since long term suppourt
[23:18] <AngelOfMercy> is someone here who can help me with my issue ?
[23:18] <skinofstars1> oCean_: that sounds like jaunty
[23:18] <soluxione_> ciao bastardo
[23:18] <oCean_> skinofstars1: yes it might be.
[23:18] <Sinkro63> erUSUL: Thank you very much for Your help.
[23:18] <newuser> ﻿ oCean_ 8.04 so ctrl-alt-backspace killing x should still be default
[23:18] <sebsebseb> ivan_: Ktorrent is a great torrents app
[23:19] <newuser> also, I use xev and the keys all work
[23:19] <soluxione_> link for italian chat pleas?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> ynk: Ktorrent is a great torrents app
[23:19] <oCean_> !it > soluxione_
[23:19] <PhotoJim> AngelOfMercy: looks like not now... so try again later.  the people who are actively helping here constantly change.
[23:19] <Matson> if I take the 700mb iso and burn it to a dvd instead of a cd - will it still work?
[23:19] <abstrakt> what's the command to update repos again?
[23:20] <abstrakt> apt-get update? aptitude update?
[23:20] <oCean_> newuser: ah, ok. Adding details like that always helps us to understand better.
[23:20] <PhotoJim> abstrakt: either works.  aptitude is smarter.  I use aptitude in place of apt-get.
[23:20] <AngelOfMercy> ok PhotoJim
[23:20] <Matson> abstrakt: dist-upgrade
[23:20] <PhotoJim> abstrakt: eventually I suspect "aptitude" will be official.
[23:20] <ynk> sebsebseb, Ktorrents? i'm actually using Transmission the one that came with this distro.
[23:20] <abstrakt> Matson, ? dist upgrade?
[23:20] <abstrakt> Matson, maybe you misunderstood my question
[23:21] <Matson> abstrakt: likely
[23:21] <sebsebseb> ynk: yeah well, as long as it's the KDE4 version of Ktorrent,  which it will be if your on 8.10.   Ktorrent is awsome.  saying that the KDE3 version was pretty good to
[23:21] <jgreen> anyone know of a program like servicecapture for ubuntu?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> ynk: Tranmission is ok, but Ktorrent much better
[23:21] <Waldir> hi, doesn anyone know how to install gimpshop? I tried the deb package but it didnt seem to do anything..
[23:21] <jgreen> I am looking to capture amf data
[23:21] <Waldir> *does
[23:21] <Checkmate91> I am running Ubuntu 8.04 and have an HP f380 printer using the f300 driver.  Problem: My printer is only printing green and yellow...no red.  Is this a driver issue or a print cartridge issue?
[23:21] <ynk> sebsebseb, how so?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> ynk: try for yourself, it looks much nicer for a start though
[23:22] <ynk> sebsebseb, ok then. i guess i'll give it a try. =) thanks buddy.
[23:22] <abstrakt> Checkmate91, well, does the printer print red on windows/mac?
[23:22] <abstrakt> Checkmate91, that'll tell you the answer
[23:22] <PhotoJim> Checkmate91: it could be either.  it's not uncommon for colour cartridges to clog up or run out of ink.
[23:22] <oCean_> newuser: maybe you've seen this already? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495877
[23:22] <abstrakt> Checkmate91, yeah you sure the red isn't just out?
[23:22] <newuser> ﻿oCean_ sony vaio pcg-fx120 running ubuntu 8.04 which is working fine except ctrl-alt-backspace not working
[23:22] <Checkmate91> abstrakt, true but then I have to boot into windows and install the driver...put an option
[23:23] <abstrakt> Checkmate91, ...
[23:23] <abstrakt> omg, you poor thing
[23:23] <Checkmate91> i know :)
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Waldir: yeah you can't just install it
[23:23] <PhotoJim> Checkmate91: your only way to know for sure then is to change your red ink cartridge and see if that cures it.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Waldir: there's an issue with the  Deb for Ubuntu and things,  that's what it was I belive yeah
[23:23] <Checkmate91> It's all in one cartridge
[23:23] <Waldir> sebsebseb: so what do I do?
[23:23] <abstrakt> PhotoJim, uh, not really, you could print on windows like i just suggested
[23:23] <abstrakt> and then if it prints red you know for sure
[23:23] <newuser> ﻿oCean_ yeah I did, but last message indicates the problem was never fixed
[23:23] <PhotoJim> abstrakt: he rejected that.  so changing the cartridge is the only option left.
[23:24] <abstrakt> omg
[23:24] <PhotoJim> Checkmate91: then you have to change the whole cartridge... if trying it with Windows or OS X is not an option.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> Waldir: a few weeks or so ago,  a woman  really wanted Gimpshop, so some guy helped her  get it working,  loads of command stuff etc
[23:24] <Checkmate91> it's not that I rejected it...just wanted a reason to come on here and chat :-)
[23:24] <abstrakt> PhotoJim, Checkmate91, because it's so much easier to go to best buy and spend $40 than it is to boot into windows
[23:24] <Checkmate91> blah blah so sarchastic
[23:24] <Checkmate91> thanks
[23:24] <PhotoJim> Checkmate91: I have nothing to fix at the moment.  Just come in here and chat then. :)
[23:24] <Waldir> sebsebseb: do you think people at #gimp will be annoyed if I ask this there? :P
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Waldir: maybe
[23:25] <Waldir> sebsebseb: :(
[23:25] <jtaji> Checkmate91: do you have hplip-gui package installed? you would have HPLIP Toolbox in your Prefs
[23:25] <Checkmate91> oh and I have to patch the windows machine because of the big and scary confliker worm :0
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Waldir: why not just use Gimp?  oh sure it's GUI is a bit well,  you got to get used to it, but otherwise it will be a good app
[23:25] <Checkmate91> jtaji, yes
[23:25] <jtaji> Checkmate91: does it report your ink levels?
[23:25] <Checkmate91> jtaji, HPLIP test page and CUPS test page yeild same results
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Waldir: there are other graphics programs for Linux as well, that are good
[23:26] <Checkmate91> jtaji, it does but as a whole..  COLOR = 35% Remaining
[23:26] <Waldir> sebsebseb: really? I didn't know about that
[23:26] <jtaji> Checkmate91: wow strange... never saw one like that
[23:26] <Waldir> sebsebseb: which do you recommend?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Waldir: yeah  look in synaptic,  I don't do graphics
[23:26] <rgs_> does anybody know if there are bug filed on launchpad for eye of gnome on intrepid?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Waldir: ,but I know there are other good ones
[23:26] <Checkmate91> well thanks for the suggestions people
[23:26] <Checkmate91> I'll figure it out
[23:26] <abstrakt> Waldir, you can do most all the same things in GIMP that you can do in Photoshop, it's just that it takes longer in the GIMP
[23:26] <rgs_> it hangs pretty often
[23:26] <jtaji> Checkmate91: taking out the cartridge and rocking it around might get you some more ink out of it, if it's an out of ink problem
[23:27] <abstrakt> Waldir, e.g. in Photoshop you can just add a "dropshadow" layer effect... in the GIMP you have to do all the steps manually... though you can surely write your own plugin to dropshadow things for you, and i'm pretty sure there's gotta be at least a dropshadowing plugin for GIMP... the point is that you can do all the same stuff
[23:27] <abstrakt> Waldir, though i have yet to find any good collection of plugins that do the same stuff as PS
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Waldir: you  look through Synaptic  and find the graphics apps and install yeah.   however  to  help you get into the right direction check out these sites.  http://www.osalt.com  http://www.linuxeq.com
[23:28] <Waldir> abstrakt: still, my main problem is the multiple windows :)
[23:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, ... that's a problem... why?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Waldir: also apparnatlly Photoshop CS2 works pretty well under the latest Wine.    http://www.winehq.org and add the Ubuntu repo then always get latest Wine
[23:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, that doesn't sound like a problem, that sounds like you being stubborn
[23:28] <cerrie> hey all.. anyone know of a gnome compatible instant messenger with webcam??
[23:28] <dmlb2000> Anyway to tell apt to copy files from file:// repositories instead of symlinking them?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> cerrie: which network?
[23:29] <cerrie> yahoo manly
[23:29] <abstrakt> cerrie, http://www.pidgin.im is basically the best IM client, dunno if it supports web cams though
[23:29] <cerrie> nah it doesent :O(
[23:29] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: no web cam suppourt yet
[23:29] <Waldir> abstrakt: if that's it, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one ;)
[23:29] <sebsebseb> cerrie: for MSN,  there's  AMSN that does web cam
[23:29] <sebsebseb> cerrie: Yahoo not sure
[23:29] <abstrakt> Waldir, ... er... if what's what?
[23:29] <ynk> Waldir, you're not the only one. i'm still trying to get used to the multiple windows myself. LoL
[23:30] <Waldir> sebsebseb: I already tried PS under wine but many tiny fonts were unreadable for some reason
[23:30] <RedMushroom> can someone PLEASE just tell me how to make a startup floppy that will allow me to start the install from the cd rom?
[23:30] <cerrie> yeah been looking for a while, nothin for gnome.
[23:30] <cerrie> :(
[23:30] <ynk> Waldir, it just takes time to get used to new styles of doing things.
[23:30] <RedMushroom> and not just say "use smartboot" cause it DOES NOT WORK
[23:30] <RedMushroom> :(
[23:30] <sebsebseb> cerrie:  if you have enough RAM,  how much you got?   and  a  WindowsCD/ISO  you can  install  Windows in  Virutalbox and do Yahoo Messenger in there
[23:30] <PhotoJim> Yahoo at one point had its own proprietary Linux client in .deb packages.  Is it no longer available?  If it is, it might be the best option if you need webcam support.
[23:30] <Waldir> abstrakt: if it is that I'm being stubborn :)
[23:30] <abstrakt> the only thing i can conclude if you can't handle the "multiple windows" is that you're mildly retarded
[23:30] <ynk> took me 3 days just to install my graphics card driver properly.
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Waldir: yeah you got to get the fonts in from Windows, and put in the wine fonts folder
[23:30] <Waldir> ynk: i'd rather get gimpshop working :|
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Waldir: or get from some where else
[23:31] <drbones420> redmushrooom does your bios boot to hard drive first, if so you should go into bios and make sure that the CDROM you've got the startup cd in runs before your Harddrive
[23:31] <abstrakt> PS has multiple "windows" they just take the form of toolbars...
[23:31] <PhotoJim> RedMushroom: there is one available on the net for free.  I googled for it a couple of years ago and found it.  It's meant for really old systems that can't boot off CD-ROM drives.
[23:31] <Waldir> sebsebseb: oh so *that* was the problem
[23:31] <abstrakt> it's just a freaking difference of a window manager
[23:31] <RedMushroom> it's not my bios
[23:31] <ynk> Waldir, what is the difference between gimpshop and GIMP? nvm.. i'll google it.
[23:31] <RedMushroom> i need a startup floppy diskette
[23:31] <RedMushroom> that has cd-rom drivers on it
[23:31] <cerrie> thanks, tryed the linux yahoo a while back, no cam support tho :O( cant win lol
[23:31] <RedMushroom> that will let me tell the computer to install off the cd-rom
[23:31] <RedMushroom> that's it
[23:31] <abstrakt> it'd be like saying that you can use Windows Explorer but not The Finder because the finder has circular colored buttons and Explorer has square gray buttons
[23:31] <Waldir> ynk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP#Interface_and_usability
[23:32] <PhotoJim> RedMushroom: There is one out there.  Give me a minute and I'll see if I can find it.
[23:32] <RedMushroom> i would really appreciate it if you could find it
[23:32] <julien> salut tlm
[23:33] <abstrakt> there are plenty of other things that in my mind easily qualify as reasons that The GIMP is harder for someone who's used to photoshop but the window manager is NOT one of them
[23:33] <julien> qui peut me conseiller un tutu pour installer vmware sur ubuntu merci bcp
[23:33] <PhotoJim> RedMushroom: it's at http://www.bootdisk.com ... would have to spend some time to find it.  but that's where I got it.
[23:33] <abstrakt> julien, #ubuntu-fr
[23:33] <abstrakt> julien, je'n parles pas francais
[23:34] <julien> abstraki>oki merci
[23:34] <gausie> hi everyone. i used usermod and forgot to add -a, removing myself from the sudoers group. im using linux mint, and was never prompted to set a root password. however, i'm being asked for one when i try to log in in recovery mode as per google search. how can i gain access?
[23:34] <eqisow> Is it possible to setup LVM encryption on a drive volume that already has data on it?
[23:34] <epaphus> hey guys... I installed the codecs, and gxine.. to try to play .wmv movies.. but it says its encrypted and descryption isnt supported.. gxine does play it but it gets the image fuzzy
[23:34] <epaphus> any suggestions?
[23:34] <eqisow> gausie: best bet it to use a liveCD and chroot in
[23:35] <eqisow> ephaphus: Does the file have DRM?
[23:35] <ynk> Waldir, while googling GIMPshop, I found http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12
[23:35] <epaphus> eqisow, where?
[23:35] <ynk> Waldir, it's called Pixel and looks much more similar to Photoshop.
[23:36] <gausie> eqisow: thanks - i expected it would require a livecd im already downloading it. will check the manual for chroot and hopefully should work! thanks for the speedy response
[23:36] <Waldir> ynk: will try it :)
[23:36] <eqisow> epaphus: where is the file from? wmv with 'digital rights management' embedded will not play in Linux
[23:36] <oCean_> gausie: When in bootloader, there is an option to add/modify kernelarguments. You can add "init=/bin/sh", which should take you straight into a shell
[23:36] <drbones420> i'm fairly new at ubuntu 8.10, and i'm trying to get all my hardware working similar to within windows xp pro. running a dual boot system, i've got ati drivers downloaded, how do I run it in terminal so that i'm super user (new at terminal)
[23:37] <eqisow> epaphus see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
[23:37] <epaphus> eqisow, the file has a .wmv extension... and the readme says it will play with any player that supports .FLA
[23:37] <epaphus> .FLV
[23:37] <epaphus> sorry
[23:37] <abstrakt> is PHP PDO available through apt?
[23:37] <fulld> I would like to create a wireless network and, have this persist after restarts, and I'd like to do this from the command line. it is possible?
[23:37] <ratdeimos> can anybody recommend the best pci-e wireless card out-of-the-box for ubuntu wep hacking?
[23:37] <eqisow> epaphus: flv in a wmv contaner, pehaps? odd... you could try VLC, though
[23:37] <Waldir> sebsebseb: those sites are wonderful resources, I'll bookmark them ^^
[23:38] <epaphus> eqisow, it also says "New Movies Arecopywrited please install and update the DRM identifier to View File."
[23:38] <epaphus> the readme
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Waldir: indeed they are, but just a reminder,  you get most stuff from synaptic or using the commands instead.  and  then  only get debs and tar.gz's and such from trusted sources
[23:39] <eqisow> epaphus: it won't play in Linux, then. See the wiki article I linked a moment ago. The company will likely refund you the purchase price if you explain, or you can play it in windows
[23:39] <Waldir> er btw I'm using a portuguese keyboard, and my dead keys are requiring me to type 4 times if i want a double symbol, for example ^^ (it should work by pressing the key 2 times only)
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Waldir: or you could get an edited version of something, that contains something bad
[23:39] <epaphus> eqisow, thanks.
[23:39] <phaer>  abstrakt, aptitude search php|grep php shows nothing, but you can always look on packages.ubuntu.com or search for another repo or package
[23:39] <gausie> oCean_: ok i'll give that a go thanks
[23:39] <Waldir> sebsebseb: I'll keep that in mind :)
[23:40] <abstrakt> phaer, yeah i did a search for PDO already
[23:40] <arth> Hi everyone
[23:41] <jmacfuzzy> are there any remedies for slow NTFS-3G performance?
[23:41] <almark1> Hello, I can not get my themes back like they used to be, something has erased my original themes, I am using hardy 64studio, does anyone know how to get this working with apt-get install?
[23:42] <phaer> abstrakt: what is the problem, then? http://www.google.at/search?q=pdo+ubuntu+install seems to know a lot about it.
[23:42] <TimReichhart> can anybody point me the right direction for help on setting up openvpn/kvpnc?
[23:43] <soluxione_> sorry, link for italian chat?
[23:43] <phaer> almark1:  have you tried to aptitude reinstall gnome-themes
[23:43] <Jordan_U> TimReichhart, Client or server?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> almark1, Are you sure that it was 64Studio and not Ubuntu Studio ?
[23:44] <TimReichhart> its for client there jordan_u
[23:44] <soluxione_> sorry, link for italian chat?
[23:45] <oCean_> !it > soluxione_
[23:45] <anders_> can anyone recommend a simple to use wikisystem for 3-5 users?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> TimReichhart,  There is an openvpn plugin for network-manager
[23:45] <Waldir> how do I change "open with" shortcuts for a given file type?
[23:45] <TimReichhart> how would I know there jordan?
[23:46] <abstrakt> hahahahahaha! Microsoft is offering $250k for information that leads to the catching the conflicker creator... wtf that's a freakin joke
[23:46] <abstrakt> given how much damage it could do or could have done
[23:46] <abstrakt> maybe if they offered $250 million
[23:46] <oCean_> abstrakt: please stay on topic
[23:46] <abstrakt> that might actually be proportionate to what they should actually be paying/the actual damage
[23:46] <Jordan_U> TimReichhart, Can you rephrase your question please, I don't understand.
[23:46] <phaer> !ot
[23:46] <skinofstars1> Waldir: system>prefernces>prefered applications
[23:47] <TimReichhart> how would I know if there is a plugin for network manager because I didnt understand your question jordan
[23:47] <Waldir> skinofstars1: I've been there before but it seems to only allow a limited amount of configuration, for some predefined file types
[23:48] <Jordan_U> TimReichhart, There is one, You can install it by installing the "network-manager-openvpn" package
[23:50] <Waldir> so does anyone know how to configure the open with associations for various file types? I'd be happy with a link and a RTFM :D
[23:51] <ghindo> Is there any way to check what sort of software (PHP, Python, etc.) a remote server is running?
[23:51] <Smanettone> link italian?
[23:51] <abstrakt> phaer, Getting PDO to work with Dapper Drake 6.06
[23:52] <Waldir> argh these joins and leaves are so annoying! is there a way to hide them in pidgin? or at least unbold them :|
[23:52] <abstrakt> phaer, far cry from 8.04
[23:52] <abstrakt> Waldir, yes there is... it's a plugin
[23:52] <abstrakt> Waldir, go get the plugin packs
[23:52] <almark1> Its 64studio yes its not UbuntuStudio
[23:52] <Smanettone> link italian?
[23:52] <mrwes> Waldir: the plugin -- hide join/parts
[23:52] <abstrakt> Smanettone, #ubuntu-it
[23:52] <Madpilot> ubottu, it
[23:52] <almark1> you might have not heard of 64studio, its great though/
[23:52] <oCean_> Waldir: right-click on the item you want to choose a program for, go to properties, then Open With tab. You can also add your own (custom) command. I think that association should work for other files of that type
[23:53] <almark1> I will uninstall the gnome-themes and the gdm themes thanks that might work
[23:53] <almark1> would the gdm-themes be called that on the DVD install disk?
[23:54] <oCean_> Smanettone: why do you ask over and over again?
[23:54] <phaer> abstrakt: oh sorry, i can not help you then. i am anything but a php guy ;)
[23:54] <Waldir> abstrakt, mrwes, thanks, I'll get the plugin :D
[23:55] <Waldir> oCean_: how can I remove a custom app that I previously added?
[23:55] <oCean_> Waldir: I think by deselecting it? - by selecting an other application?
[23:55] <almark1> Is there a way to restart gdm without rebooting?
[23:55] <victor__> im not sure if i like ubuntu gnome, its my first time on linux (i came from 9x. milenium, xp and vista) but i've finished by hating it so i wanna start with linux but i don't know whitch distro take someone can help me?
[23:56] <Waldir> oCean_: that just adds more to the list :(
[23:56] <TheFunkbomb> Anyone having issues with cgmail not working?
[23:56] <vigo> Is Ekiga free PC-PC or can it call cell phones/land lines also, if so, is there a charge for this service?
[23:56] <oCean_> almark1: /etc/init.d/gdm restart should do that trick
[23:57] <mrwes> Waldir: you have the plugin already  Tools | Plugins
[23:57] <gausie> oCean_: I'm having some trouble with your advice. i ammended init=/bin/sh but this just makes the screen black, with a blinking underscore
[23:57] <abstrakt> omg, i don't have make?!
[23:58] <almark1> oCean: thanks, when I do that while in term outside of X windows, It won't restart
[23:58] <abstrakt> lol... is there a meta package that installs the basics for compiling? e.g. gcc make autoconf etc?
[23:58] <Waldir> mrwes: lol, I didnt see that in time, now I installed more stuff, but I'll explore them
[23:58] <oCean_> Waldir: I don't get it. For each filetype, when you go to properties, there is a radio-button list on the openwith tab right?
[23:58] <TheFunkbomb> No?  No one having an issue with cgmail?
[23:58] <vigo> victor__: That is really a very personal choice, Ubuntu is one of the first user friendly Linux distros to come out, it is stable and supported, but of course, it is a choice, albeit a free choice.
[23:58] <abstrakt> vigo, don't confuse Ubuntu with GNOME
[23:58] <Waldir> oCean_: I don't see radio buttons :/
[23:59] <mrwes> !build-essentials
[23:59] <oCean_> gausie: that is not default behaviour. It should just boot (similar to rescue mode) but drop you into a shell
[23:59] <almark1> ok it works now I.. think
[23:59] <almark1> thanks all
[23:59] <abstrakt> vigo, and don't confuse Ubuntu with KDE either... just cuz you don't like GNOME doesn't mean you won't like Ubuntu... there are *lots* of window managers to choose from and you can configure most of them to look and work almost *any* way you want
[23:59] <oCean_> Waldir: using gnome?
[23:59] <abstrakt> vigo, you can setup your linux box to look and work like a mac, or like windows, or like something entirely different
[23:59] <abstrakt> mrwes, thanks
[23:59] <oCean_> Waldir: using nautilus?