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lukinforehi00:53
zoredache_!hi00:54
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!00:54
lukinforewhen I logout from vt it automatically switch to X (vt7)00:54
lukinforeis it normal behavior for jaunty?00:54
zoredache_lukinfore: I have seen that as well...  I assumed it was normal00:55
durtlukinfore, seems to be00:55
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lukinforeok, thanks00:55
lukinforebut can that be changed?00:56
d42k51d3hello all!01:00
zoredachelukinfore: that is a good question, I am not sure... You may be able to get an answer in #ubuntu, since upstart is the same there01:00
d42k51d3Is this a good place for noob questions?01:01
zoredacheif your question is related to xubuntu, then yes this is good starting point01:02
d42k51d3great!01:02
lukinforezoredache, I'll try01:02
d42k51d3I was wondering how to put an item on the panel to open a terminal01:02
zoredacheright click, choose add new item, choose launcerh, for your launcher use a command line of 'xfce4-terminal'01:03
d42k51d3ah, merci!01:04
d42k51d3ok, I got another one for ya...01:06
zoredache!ask01:07
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)01:07
d42k51d3how do I change the sound scheme in xubuntu?  I can't seem to find info on it anywhere and I'm tarting to think that maybe the xfce desktop just doesn't support system sounds01:08
zoredacheI am not sure.  You may be right in thinking that it doesn't have sound events01:09
MemfisHow do I add a new shortcut/link on the desktop to a folder/directory?02:02
MemfisI can lauchers for programs and urls but not to a local folder.02:03
MemfisSorry if its a dumb question :(02:03
gorgutMemfis, not a dumb question :)02:06
MemfisNot dumb if none know the answer lol02:06
Memfisno-one* damn typos today02:06
htavaresMemfis, you can create a soft link02:06
gorgutcd ~/Desktop && ln -s /path/to/your/folder/02:07
gorgutthat's the way I know how to do it :p02:07
Memfisahh symlink it from terminal fair enough. I presume there'd be a nice little popup to do it and add icons etc like the others :)02:07
gorgutMemfis, probably is... never really tried to do it in the GUI... heh02:08
MemfisThank you. Tha'll do nicely for now.02:09
Memfisthat'll*02:09
gorgutMemfis, no problem :)02:10
CYFhey gorgut02:14
CYFI have a question for you02:14
gorgutCYF, sure, what's up?02:14
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zoredacheif you want to create a launcher to a folder you can make your launcher be 'thunar "path"'02:15
zoredacheso - thunar /home/username/Desktop would open up my desktop02:15
CloseYetFarwhen ever I click on a url link in Thur it moves firefox to the current desktop im in. But i want firefox to stay where it is currently02:16
CloseYetFarit used to work that way and I changed something02:16
CloseYetFareven when I click a mucis file it moves xmms to thunars current desktop02:17
J_Litewskiit may be a configuration error in Thunar02:18
J_Litewskii'll see if it happens to me CloseYetFar02:19
CloseYetFaractully i just tried it in xchat and it moves firefox to xchats current desktop as well02:19
CloseYetFari clicked a link in xchat02:19
CloseYetFari just want stuff that is currently running to stay put lol02:20
gorgutsounds like some kinda setting with window focusing... i'm not sure02:21
J_LitewskiCloseYetFar, happens to me too02:21
CloseYetFarhmm02:21
J_Litewskii think it's a bug02:22
gorgutyou using compiz?02:22
CloseYetFarnope02:22
J_Litewskime? no02:22
CloseYetFari have no need for it02:22
J_LitewskiCloseYetFar, does it do it with each program you use?02:23
J_Litewskior just thunar?02:23
CloseYetFarlooks like all of them02:23
J_Litewskiit may accually be a problem with the virtual desktop02:24
CloseYetFaryea02:26
J_Litewskii think it is02:26
J_Litewskilinks work just fine if you have firefox opened in the desktop your in02:27
J_Litewskibut it jumps desktops if you don't02:27
J_Litewskii just tried it02:27
CloseYetFaryea02:28
Memfiszoredache thank you02:31
CloseYetFarthanks for the help anyway02:31
Memfisusing zoredache's thunar method, is it possible to use $username in the destination. eg thunar /home/$username/Desktop02:35
Memfis$username doesn't work but you get the idea02:36
gorgutMemfis, just do ~/Desktop02:37
gorgutit should understand that "~" is your home folder02:37
Memfiscant as it's not actually in ~02:37
gorgutoh02:37
gorgutthen just use the full path?02:37
gorgut/home/(user)/Music or whatever02:37
Memfishmm true. I had an idea, but thinking about it it's not possible under linux.02:38
gorgutyou sure? :p02:39
gorgutthat sounds like a challenge02:39
gorgutheheh02:39
Memfishang on, sure it must be. Is there a generic place that adds an icon to all users desktops?02:39
gorgutyou could write a bash script to do it :p02:40
Memfiseg on XP its Documents and Settings\All Users or sommat02:40
gorgutright02:40
Memfisadd a shortcut there it appears on everyones desktop. New users too.02:41
MemfisNot that simple on linux huh?02:42
gorgutI'm sure it could be, but it's a little outside the scope of my knowledge :)02:43
MemfisFair enough :)02:43
Memfisgnight all.02:43
gorgutnight02:43
SML1226Hey has anybody ever had any problem transferring files to a flash drive? I have a 4.3GB file and a newly formatted 8GB drive but it keeps saying not enough space03:30
SML1226Or does anybody know how to make a bootable flash drive from an iso file?03:35
EtFbI've tried and failed twice now to create a VMWare virtual machine running Xubuntu.  It does the installation, then I restart and it just sits there.  What am I doing wrong?03:38
EtFbIt's kind of odd that it finishes installation and then boots in the RAM-Disk/LiveCD mode without giving a message to say I've succeeded.  Is that normal?03:39
tech0007im on xubuntu, & I always get "fbsetbg: something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. run 'display ...blah blah from an exterm" this msg never goes away...any suggestion?03:39
meowImAKittyHey gang, does any one know how to install fonts!?!?04:13
SML1226you copy the ttf file into the .fonts folder in your home folder04:14
meowImAKitty:S there is no "fonts" folder in my home folder.04:14
SML1226its not there by default and if you have added before it still should be hidden04:15
SML1226add a .fonts folder04:15
SML1226. makes it hidden btw just in case you didn't know04:16
meowImAKittyOkay created my .fonts folder in my home folder, now all I do is copy over the ttf and its installed? or is there something else to do??04:16
meowImAKittyYeah I'm viewing all the "hidden" folders and files.04:17
SML1226i believe thats all you do. then you change your font in system settings04:17
meowImAKittyI can still use that font in programs too right?04:18
meowImAKittyI'm running Macromedia Flash MX through Wine, and I need that font for that application.04:18
SML1226oh through wine it might be different04:19
SML1226not sure04:19
SML1226if it runs like window then it is in the C:\ directory but since there is no windows files it probably isn't there. no clue04:20
EtFbWhat's "ubiquity"?  Should I be worried that it crashed while I was installing Xubuntu?04:36
andrew_I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless after a fresh install...anyone who can help?07:18
Persihi there, whys Jaunty so slow?07:24
Persiis it temporary?07:25
BigMoopiesI messed up and ran nautlius under XFCE and now the desktop wont show up correctly, is there a way to fix this?08:53
BigMoopiesis it possible to uninstall/reinstall the xubuntu desktop ?08:55
TheSheepjust kill nautilus08:58
TheSheepsystem->system monitor08:58
TheSheepfind nautilus and terminate it08:58
TheSheepthen maybe go to settings->setting manager->desktop and check the 'let xfce manage my desktop' checkbox08:58
BigMoopiesTheSheep, The "let xfce manage my desktop" worked09:00
BigMoopiesthe desktop*09:00
BigMoopiesI guess I shouldn't make that  boo boo again09:01
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alienkiddoea anyone know if the DMZ-white cursors have a Windows port and if so where to get?14:35
alienkidjoin #ubuntu14:44
pressHi all, I have an old PC (300mhz, 128mb ram), I'm wondering, if Xubuntu would work fine on it? If not, could you tell me wich graphic system would?14:59
genii192Mb would be better, but should still work with 128. Hopefully the video card is something OK and not a UniChrome or other oddball make15:02
pressit's RIVA TNT 32mb15:03
pressand do you know how it would work with wireless usb card?15:04
TheSheepthere is a compatibility list on the wiki15:05
TheSheep!compatibility15:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about compatibility15:05
TheSheep:/15:05
tavastipress, what apps you are planning to run?15:06
tavastiplain window manager is not very usefull, it's the apps15:06
TheSheephttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport15:06
pressi want only IM (pidgin), web browser, and this USB card15:07
pressthat's it15:07
tavastiweb browser for what15:07
TheSheepwww with flash and java?15:07
Moodwhat kind of wifi card?15:07
pressTheSheep, thanks15:07
tavastipages with flas & java can be heavy15:08
pressUSB wifi card, it's TP-Link TL-WN321G15:08
TheSheepflash and java are memory hogs, firefox can be a hog too with many tabs15:08
TheSheepadd more ram if you can15:08
pressI know that, but I wont open this kind of pages often15:08
TheSheeppress: I tried it once, didn't work out of the box, didn't have time to play more with it15:08
pressI tried to add more ram, but then it just don;t turn on15:08
tavastiinstall and you see if it's usable in your use15:08
pressTheSheep: what did you try?15:09
TheSheeppress: tp-link usb wifi15:09
TheSheeppress: you might check the forums for it though, maybe someone has a recipe15:09
presson this page it is said that it works: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link#USB15:09
TheSheeppress: that's great, apparently I did something wrong :)15:10
pressI'm happy as well :D15:10
pressBut I don't think Kubuntu will run well on this PC15:10
TheSheepxubuntu will be slow too15:11
presswhat graphic system would you recomend?15:11
pressFluxbox? as in DSL?15:11
TheSheeppress: you'd save some memory, but not much15:11
TheSheeppress: ah, sorry, I had TL-WN422G card15:12
pressnever mind ;)15:12
pressso could you tell me which distro should I install?15:12
ablomenpress, you might want to try puppy, it has a lot of applications out of the box and is verry small15:13
ablomenhttp://www.puppylinux.org/15:13
pressI've heard of it15:14
Moodi've had great experience w/ debian lenny + fluxbox on an old 500 Mhz P3 with 128MB ram15:14
Moodyou could use links2  or if you're really hardcore dillo as a web browser instead of firefox15:15
TheSheeparchlinux could be tweaked to work on it too15:15
TheSheeppress: also, which protocol do you need for IM?15:16
tavastiI would go installing text-only ubuntu, and adding by hand X+ fvwm or something similar15:16
pressI think i will try puppy, because it says on their site, that it works15:16
TheSheeppress: pidgin is a little heavy if you only need jabber15:16
pressIt's Gadu-Gadu - polish communikator15:17
tavastibut definitely, installing ready to run minimalistic linux is easier15:17
press*communicator15:17
Moodsmallest linux footprint distro would be damnsmalllinux15:17
TheSheeppress: ugh15:17
TheSheeppress: there are some jabber-gadugadu gateways...15:17
pressi know it, but i'm not shure if DSL would work with this card15:18
pressI could stand XP on it for nearly 2 weeks, so I think I would stand with anything else ;)15:18
press*could15:19
pressI have to go15:21
pressthanks for your help15:22
pressbye15:22
reverHi I just installed Xubutnu 9.04 Is there any way I can browse my Windows Shares? I love xfce4 and it's small footprint but I need to view Windows Shares15:46
brandonban6!samba| rever15:47
ubotturever: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:47
reverI did google this and only found info on mounting them at command line. Then using Thunar to brows the mount15:47
brandonban6rever, are these shares on the same harddrive?15:47
reverNo they are over the network15:47
brandonban6ah, then samba is the way to go!15:48
reverI installed Samba but Thunar does not have a network icon to see all viewable windows machines on the network15:48
reverI even shared a drive from my Xubuntu Laptop to my windows Desktop. I just cannot go the other way easily15:49
reverI have mounted the shares via command line to /media/samba/MyDesktop. However, I was wondering is there anyway to do this on demand like in Gnome and KDE.15:49
brandonban6rever, i don't know that I follow what you mean by "on demand"15:50
reverIn Gnome and KDE I have a Network Icon in Places that opens up My windows Network showing all the computers on the network.15:51
reverI can then click on a computer and see it's shares. Then click on the share and mount it from there. No need to do it from cli15:52
brandonban6ahh, I see. Hmm, not sure on that one. I stick to cli. I don't know, maybe there is a plugin for thunar that allows you to see those options, or perhaps just install nautilus...? I'm just guessing at this point though.15:54
reverI don't mind cli much but trying to train someone else to use this and for ease of use would be nice to have. I rather not install nautilus or konq with all there dependencies. Thanks for the advice15:55
brandonban6rever, fair enough. Good luck to you. If you figure it out, I'd appreciate you sharing what you did :)15:56
brandonban6rever, have you posted on the forums yet?15:57
reverNot yet looked around on it for the answer but have not posted yet. I usually ask on IRC first then there15:57
reverWell a nice work around looks like using gigolo16:00
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Slonkiehmm. everytime i start up xubuntu it allways starts the applications i had running when i shut down. Is it possible to turn this feature off?16:37
brandonban6Slonkie, that's somewhere in the settings. you need to turn off "saved session for next logon" or something like that. Sorry I'm not more specific, i'm on my ubuntu box at the moment and can't remember where that setting is.16:44
SlonkieI turned that off, it's there when you shutdown16:45
papuHello everybody16:56
papuI got a problem with graphics, and i'm total newbie. Can someone help me?16:56
TT2000i'm running intrepid amd64 but i'm having 32 compatibility issues.  is there a (simple) way to fix this without dumping amd64 and reverting to x86?17:33
TheSheepdepends on the issues17:34
TT2000i have installed 4 ia32 packages...am having issue with ...wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6417:36
kora_hi im using 8.10;  i wanted to make my ntfs harddrive mount automatically with write privileges for my user, so i added " /dev/sdb1       /media/pladde   fuse    user    0       0" to my fstab. when i plug it in it says my user has no permission to mount blick device. what do i need to to? any advice?17:39
Besogon/dev/sda3 /media/ntfs   ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       117:41
BesogonIt is in my fstab17:41
kora_Besogon: thanks ill try it out17:42
SlonkieIn my fstab it's ntfs-3g and relatime instead of "fuse" and "user"17:42
BesogonSlonkie, you cant write to your ntfs partition. ntfs-3g only for reading17:44
Slonkieall right17:44
Slonkiejust diden't work when i used ntfs only17:44
Slonkieand i believe i'm able to write to it with ntfs-3g17:45
kora_prblem is, if i plug the drive in, i get an error "only root can mount,.." with your line besogon17:45
kora_ntfs-3g is for writing ntfs filesystems as far as i know17:45
SlonkieI am capable of writing, Besogon. :-)17:46
kora_are your ntfs partitions on your internal hard drive?17:46
kora_ah i c,... yours are sdA17:47
SlonkieYea17:47
kora_so the drive as is, is already mounted17:47
kora_my problem is that the partition is on a drive that i plug in to usb17:47
kora_so it normally needs root privileges because its a block device17:48
kora_is there a way to add some sudo magic to the mount of block devices?17:48
BesogonI wrong. he) may be it with "ntfs" instead "ntfs-3g"... But kora_ Are you have USB-flash with ntfs in it?17:49
kora_Besogon: its a usb hard drive which i plug in from time to time to archive data17:50
kora_Besogon: thats the problem its a new block device to the system, so i need root privileges to mount it i guess17:50
BesogonIf you have only USB you should not write any line in fstab.17:51
kora_ok, so what would you recomment to mount it with wirte privilege?17:51
kora_i c your point, if i plug in another drive it will be sdb too and maybe has another fs on it,..17:53
BesogonAsk anybody else. (on #ubuntu may be). It is not so easy to decide your problem17:53
kora_ok thanks for the hints17:53
Besogonkora_, in ubuntu is included "users-admin" utility. In xfce I dont know17:58
Slonkiewhen you insert an NTFS drive it auto mounts?17:59
Slonkieatleast mine does when i insert one17:59
TheSheep!ntfs18:03
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE18:03
BesogonHe want to have possibility to write on USB-hard (like I undestand)18:03
TheSheep!NTFS-3g18:03
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions18:03
BesogonOK. Ntfs only for read.  I remembered it.18:04
samuHey, It's me again, I have question. So, I want my xubuntu to show text more clearly, so how can I make text smoother and easier to read? Like the ClearType in Windows18:19
Slonkiehmm. everytime i start up xubuntu it allways starts the applications i had running when i shut down. Is it possible to turn this feature off? i tried turning off "Save seesions for future logins" but diden't work.18:45
vinnlSlonkie, you first have to close all those applications, then select "save session" and *then*, the next time, uncheck that checkbox18:46
Slonkieah clever18:47
Slonkiei'll try that, thanks vinnl.18:47
Slonkienow that i've got you, you remember helping me make an shortcut for maple? Is it possible to make an icon for this shortcut? :)18:48
vinnlSlonkie, sure18:49
vinnlDo you already have the icon anywhere?18:49
Slonkiethere is images in the maple folder but not sure if their the icons, since i can't watch them with any picture viewer18:50
Slonkiejust trying to find some18:50
vinnlIf they're images they can be icons18:50
vinnlWell... The most common image formats, at least :P18:51
SlonkieAll right i've got them.18:51
Slonkieit's .png18:51
vinnlThat's OK, I think18:51
vinnlSlonkie, anyway, to the .desktop file, you just add a line "Icon=<path to image>"18:52
vinnl(For examples, try editing some of the files in /usr/share/applications with Mousepad)18:52
SlonkieWhat's mousepad?18:52
vinnlXubuntu's text editor18:52
Slonkieaha18:52
Slonkiei prefer nano18:53
vinnlBy the way, for speed, it may be beneficial to first resize the image before you set it as icon18:53
vinnlOh any text editor will do :)18:53
SlonkieDoesn't mather where in the .desktop file i add it?18:53
vinnlI don't think so, as long as it is not on top18:54
vinnlFor Abiword it's below the Exec= line18:54
Slonkieokay18:54
Slonkiethis is wierd.. i can't find the maple.desktop :S18:56
Slonkietho it's still in my applications menu18:57
vinnlIt's in ~/.local/share/applications I suppose18:57
Slonkieah thanks.. i thought it would be in /usr/share/applications18:58
Slonkieand how is it i reload that datebase needed?18:59
Slonkiedatabase*18:59
vinnlOff the top of my head, sudo update-desktop-database18:59
Slonkiedoesn't work19:01
Slonkiethe Icon=<path>19:01
vinnlHmm :S19:01
SlonkieIcon=/root/maple11/bin/maple_icon.gif19:03
Slonkieah nvm19:03
Slonkiemaybe it's me19:03
Slonkieagian :P19:03
vinnlIt works now?19:03
geniiHm /root19:03
SlonkieYep once agian it's my fault19:04
Slonkiemaple chose that dir, genii :(19:04
SlonkieIs there anyway to remove all the games easy?19:49
cody-somervilleyea19:50
SlonkieHow?19:52
cody-somervilleremove the gnome-games package20:00
SlonkieThanks20:01
SlonkieAnybody knows if there's any application that's capable of making Thunderbird go to tray when minimizing automaticly, not like kdocker where i have to do it manually?20:15
cody-somervillekdocker is kde20:25
Slonkiei know20:26
Lint01how can I switch keyboard layouts in XFCE?20:55
UKGentLint01 This might be useful to you   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6375920:57
Lint01I don't think it's gonna work; this entire section in xorg.conf is commented out because "hal is used instead"20:59
UKGentLint01 It seems that there is no obvious way to do it from what I can see - just did a very quick search20:59
Zzyzx_anyone know how to get around the 8.10 amd64 alternate installer failing after activating SATA RAID on an ASUS P5E-VM DO ?22:13
Zzyzx_i think it's an HDMI problem?22:13
newuserkey stroke combination for kill X (ctrl+alt+backspace) doesn't work (This on sony vaio pcg-fx120 laptop running 8.04)  suggestions?  (running xev shows that keys are working- not have no effect on killing x)23:26
jarnosnewuser: maybe you could press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and kill X from there?23:35
lukinforethere is DontZap option in your xorg.conf, If it's enabled, mentioned keystroke won't work. Try to disable it in serverflags section23:38
lukinforebut, that was default on 8.04 afaik23:39

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