[00:53] <lukinfore> hi
[00:54] <zoredache_> !hi
[00:54] <lukinfore> when I logout from vt it automatically switch to X (vt7)
[00:54] <lukinfore> is it normal behavior for jaunty?
[00:55] <zoredache_> lukinfore: I have seen that as well...  I assumed it was normal
[00:55] <durt> lukinfore, seems to be
[00:55] <lukinfore> ok, thanks
[00:56] <lukinfore> but can that be changed?
[01:00] <d42k51d3> hello all!
[01:00] <zoredache> lukinfore: that is a good question, I am not sure... You may be able to get an answer in #ubuntu, since upstart is the same there
[01:01] <d42k51d3> Is this a good place for noob questions?
[01:02] <zoredache> if your question is related to xubuntu, then yes this is good starting point
[01:02] <d42k51d3> great!
[01:02] <lukinfore> zoredache, I'll try
[01:02] <d42k51d3> I was wondering how to put an item on the panel to open a terminal
[01:03] <zoredache> right click, choose add new item, choose launcerh, for your launcher use a command line of 'xfce4-terminal'
[01:04] <d42k51d3> ah, merci!
[01:06] <d42k51d3> ok, I got another one for ya...
[01:07] <zoredache> !ask
[01:08] <d42k51d3> how do I change the sound scheme in xubuntu?  I can't seem to find info on it anywhere and I'm tarting to think that maybe the xfce desktop just doesn't support system sounds
[01:09] <zoredache> I am not sure.  You may be right in thinking that it doesn't have sound events
[02:02] <Memfis> How do I add a new shortcut/link on the desktop to a folder/directory?
[02:03] <Memfis> I can lauchers for programs and urls but not to a local folder.
[02:03] <Memfis> Sorry if its a dumb question :(
[02:06] <gorgut> Memfis, not a dumb question :)
[02:06] <Memfis> Not dumb if none know the answer lol
[02:06] <Memfis> no-one* damn typos today
[02:06] <htavares> Memfis, you can create a soft link
[02:07] <gorgut> cd ~/Desktop && ln -s /path/to/your/folder/
[02:07] <gorgut> that's the way I know how to do it :p
[02:07] <Memfis> ahh symlink it from terminal fair enough. I presume there'd be a nice little popup to do it and add icons etc like the others :)
[02:08] <gorgut> Memfis, probably is... never really tried to do it in the GUI... heh
[02:09] <Memfis> Thank you. Tha'll do nicely for now.
[02:09] <Memfis> that'll*
[02:10] <gorgut> Memfis, no problem :)
[02:14] <CYF> hey gorgut
[02:14] <CYF> I have a question for you
[02:14] <gorgut> CYF, sure, what's up?
[02:15] <zoredache> if you want to create a launcher to a folder you can make your launcher be 'thunar "path"'
[02:15] <zoredache> so - thunar /home/username/Desktop would open up my desktop
[02:16] <CloseYetFar> when ever I click on a url link in Thur it moves firefox to the current desktop im in. But i want firefox to stay where it is currently
[02:16] <CloseYetFar> it used to work that way and I changed something
[02:17] <CloseYetFar> even when I click a mucis file it moves xmms to thunars current desktop
[02:18] <J_Litewski> it may be a configuration error in Thunar
[02:19] <J_Litewski> i'll see if it happens to me CloseYetFar
[02:19] <CloseYetFar> actully i just tried it in xchat and it moves firefox to xchats current desktop as well
[02:19] <CloseYetFar> i clicked a link in xchat
[02:20] <CloseYetFar> i just want stuff that is currently running to stay put lol
[02:21] <gorgut> sounds like some kinda setting with window focusing... i'm not sure
[02:21] <J_Litewski> CloseYetFar, happens to me too
[02:21] <CloseYetFar> hmm
[02:22] <J_Litewski> i think it's a bug
[02:22] <gorgut> you using compiz?
[02:22] <CloseYetFar> nope
[02:22] <J_Litewski> me? no
[02:22] <CloseYetFar> i have no need for it
[02:23] <J_Litewski> CloseYetFar, does it do it with each program you use?
[02:23] <J_Litewski> or just thunar?
[02:23] <CloseYetFar> looks like all of them
[02:24] <J_Litewski> it may accually be a problem with the virtual desktop
[02:26] <CloseYetFar> yea
[02:26] <J_Litewski> i think it is
[02:27] <J_Litewski> links work just fine if you have firefox opened in the desktop your in
[02:27] <J_Litewski> but it jumps desktops if you don't
[02:27] <J_Litewski> i just tried it
[02:28] <CloseYetFar> yea
[02:31] <Memfis> zoredache thank you
[02:31] <CloseYetFar> thanks for the help anyway
[02:35] <Memfis> using zoredache's thunar method, is it possible to use $username in the destination. eg thunar /home/$username/Desktop
[02:36] <Memfis> $username doesn't work but you get the idea
[02:37] <gorgut> Memfis, just do ~/Desktop
[02:37] <gorgut> it should understand that "~" is your home folder
[02:37] <Memfis> cant as it's not actually in ~
[02:37] <gorgut> oh
[02:37] <gorgut> then just use the full path?
[02:37] <gorgut> /home/(user)/Music or whatever
[02:38] <Memfis> hmm true. I had an idea, but thinking about it it's not possible under linux.
[02:39] <gorgut> you sure? :p
[02:39] <gorgut> that sounds like a challenge
[02:39] <gorgut> heheh
[02:39] <Memfis> hang on, sure it must be. Is there a generic place that adds an icon to all users desktops?
[02:40] <gorgut> you could write a bash script to do it :p
[02:40] <Memfis> eg on XP its Documents and Settings\All Users or sommat
[02:40] <gorgut> right
[02:41] <Memfis> add a shortcut there it appears on everyones desktop. New users too.
[02:42] <Memfis> Not that simple on linux huh?
[02:43] <gorgut> I'm sure it could be, but it's a little outside the scope of my knowledge :)
[02:43] <Memfis> Fair enough :)
[02:43] <Memfis> gnight all.
[02:43] <gorgut> night
[03:30] <SML1226> Hey has anybody ever had any problem transferring files to a flash drive? I have a 4.3GB file and a newly formatted 8GB drive but it keeps saying not enough space
[03:35] <SML1226> Or does anybody know how to make a bootable flash drive from an iso file?
[03:38] <EtFb> I've tried and failed twice now to create a VMWare virtual machine running Xubuntu.  It does the installation, then I restart and it just sits there.  What am I doing wrong?
[03:39] <EtFb> It's kind of odd that it finishes installation and then boots in the RAM-Disk/LiveCD mode without giving a message to say I've succeeded.  Is that normal?
[03:39] <tech0007> im on xubuntu, & I always get "fbsetbg: something went wrong while setting the wallpaper. run 'display ...blah blah from an exterm" this msg never goes away...any suggestion?
[04:13] <meowImAKitty> Hey gang, does any one know how to install fonts!?!?
[04:14] <SML1226> you copy the ttf file into the .fonts folder in your home folder
[04:14] <meowImAKitty> :S there is no "fonts" folder in my home folder.
[04:15] <SML1226> its not there by default and if you have added before it still should be hidden
[04:15] <SML1226> add a .fonts folder
[04:16] <SML1226> . makes it hidden btw just in case you didn't know
[04:16] <meowImAKitty> Okay created my .fonts folder in my home folder, now all I do is copy over the ttf and its installed? or is there something else to do??
[04:17] <meowImAKitty> Yeah I'm viewing all the "hidden" folders and files.
[04:17] <SML1226> i believe thats all you do. then you change your font in system settings
[04:18] <meowImAKitty> I can still use that font in programs too right?
[04:18] <meowImAKitty> I'm running Macromedia Flash MX through Wine, and I need that font for that application.
[04:19] <SML1226> oh through wine it might be different
[04:19] <SML1226> not sure
[04:20] <SML1226> if it runs like window then it is in the C:\ directory but since there is no windows files it probably isn't there. no clue
[04:36] <EtFb> What's "ubiquity"?  Should I be worried that it crashed while I was installing Xubuntu?
[07:18] <andrew_> I'm looking for help troubleshooting wireless after a fresh install...anyone who can help?
[07:24] <Persi> hi there, whys Jaunty so slow?
[07:25] <Persi> is it temporary?
[08:53] <BigMoopies> I messed up and ran nautlius under XFCE and now the desktop wont show up correctly, is there a way to fix this?
[08:55] <BigMoopies> is it possible to uninstall/reinstall the xubuntu desktop ?
[08:58] <TheSheep> just kill nautilus
[08:58] <TheSheep> system->system monitor
[08:58] <TheSheep> find nautilus and terminate it
[08:58] <TheSheep> then maybe go to settings->setting manager->desktop and check the 'let xfce manage my desktop' checkbox
[09:00] <BigMoopies> TheSheep, The "let xfce manage my desktop" worked
[09:00] <BigMoopies> the desktop*
[09:01] <BigMoopies> I guess I shouldn't make that  boo boo again
[14:35] <alienkid> doea anyone know if the DMZ-white cursors have a Windows port and if so where to get?
[14:44] <alienkid> join #ubuntu
[14:59] <press> Hi all, I have an old PC (300mhz, 128mb ram), I'm wondering, if Xubuntu would work fine on it? If not, could you tell me wich graphic system would?
[15:02] <genii> 192Mb would be better, but should still work with 128. Hopefully the video card is something OK and not a UniChrome or other oddball make
[15:03] <press> it's RIVA TNT 32mb
[15:04] <press> and do you know how it would work with wireless usb card?
[15:05] <TheSheep> there is a compatibility list on the wiki
[15:05] <TheSheep> !compatibility
[15:05] <TheSheep> :/
[15:06] <tavasti> press, what apps you are planning to run?
[15:06] <tavasti> plain window manager is not very usefull, it's the apps
[15:06] <TheSheep> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[15:07] <press> i want only IM (pidgin), web browser, and this USB card
[15:07] <press> that's it
[15:07] <tavasti> web browser for what
[15:07] <TheSheep> www with flash and java?
[15:07] <Mood> what kind of wifi card?
[15:07] <press> TheSheep, thanks
[15:08] <tavasti> pages with flas & java can be heavy
[15:08] <press> USB wifi card, it's TP-Link TL-WN321G
[15:08] <TheSheep> flash and java are memory hogs, firefox can be a hog too with many tabs
[15:08] <TheSheep> add more ram if you can
[15:08] <press> I know that, but I wont open this kind of pages often
[15:08] <TheSheep> press: I tried it once, didn't work out of the box, didn't have time to play more with it
[15:08] <press> I tried to add more ram, but then it just don;t turn on
[15:08] <tavasti> install and you see if it's usable in your use
[15:09] <press> TheSheep: what did you try?
[15:09] <TheSheep> press: tp-link usb wifi
[15:09] <TheSheep> press: you might check the forums for it though, maybe someone has a recipe
[15:09] <press> on this page it is said that it works: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link#USB
[15:10] <TheSheep> press: that's great, apparently I did something wrong :)
[15:10] <press> I'm happy as well :D
[15:10] <press> But I don't think Kubuntu will run well on this PC
[15:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu will be slow too
[15:11] <press> what graphic system would you recomend?
[15:11] <press> Fluxbox? as in DSL?
[15:11] <TheSheep> press: you'd save some memory, but not much
[15:12] <TheSheep> press: ah, sorry, I had TL-WN422G card
[15:12] <press> never mind ;)
[15:12] <press> so could you tell me which distro should I install?
[15:13] <ablomen> press, you might want to try puppy, it has a lot of applications out of the box and is verry small
[15:13] <ablomen> http://www.puppylinux.org/
[15:14] <press> I've heard of it
[15:14] <Mood> i've had great experience w/ debian lenny + fluxbox on an old 500 Mhz P3 with 128MB ram
[15:15] <Mood> you could use links2  or if you're really hardcore dillo as a web browser instead of firefox
[15:15] <TheSheep> archlinux could be tweaked to work on it too
[15:16] <TheSheep> press: also, which protocol do you need for IM?
[15:16] <tavasti> I would go installing text-only ubuntu, and adding by hand X+ fvwm or something similar
[15:16] <press> I think i will try puppy, because it says on their site, that it works
[15:16] <TheSheep> press: pidgin is a little heavy if you only need jabber
[15:17] <press> It's Gadu-Gadu - polish communikator
[15:17] <tavasti> but definitely, installing ready to run minimalistic linux is easier
[15:17] <press> *communicator
[15:17] <Mood> smallest linux footprint distro would be damnsmalllinux
[15:17] <TheSheep> press: ugh
[15:17] <TheSheep> press: there are some jabber-gadugadu gateways...
[15:18] <press> i know it, but i'm not shure if DSL would work with this card
[15:18] <press> I could stand XP on it for nearly 2 weeks, so I think I would stand with anything else ;)
[15:19] <press> *could
[15:21] <press> I have to go
[15:22] <press> thanks for your help
[15:22] <press> bye
[15:46] <rever> Hi I just installed Xubutnu 9.04 Is there any way I can browse my Windows Shares? I love xfce4 and it's small footprint but I need to view Windows Shares
[15:47] <brandonban6> !samba| rever
[15:47] <rever> I did google this and only found info on mounting them at command line. Then using Thunar to brows the mount
[15:47] <brandonban6> rever, are these shares on the same harddrive?
[15:47] <rever> No they are over the network
[15:48] <brandonban6> ah, then samba is the way to go!
[15:48] <rever> I installed Samba but Thunar does not have a network icon to see all viewable windows machines on the network
[15:49] <rever> I even shared a drive from my Xubuntu Laptop to my windows Desktop. I just cannot go the other way easily
[15:49] <rever> I have mounted the shares via command line to /media/samba/MyDesktop. However, I was wondering is there anyway to do this on demand like in Gnome and KDE.
[15:50] <brandonban6> rever, i don't know that I follow what you mean by "on demand"
[15:51] <rever> In Gnome and KDE I have a Network Icon in Places that opens up My windows Network showing all the computers on the network.
[15:52] <rever> I can then click on a computer and see it's shares. Then click on the share and mount it from there. No need to do it from cli
[15:54] <brandonban6> ahh, I see. Hmm, not sure on that one. I stick to cli. I don't know, maybe there is a plugin for thunar that allows you to see those options, or perhaps just install nautilus...? I'm just guessing at this point though.
[15:55] <rever> I don't mind cli much but trying to train someone else to use this and for ease of use would be nice to have. I rather not install nautilus or konq with all there dependencies. Thanks for the advice
[15:56] <brandonban6> rever, fair enough. Good luck to you. If you figure it out, I'd appreciate you sharing what you did :)
[15:57] <brandonban6> rever, have you posted on the forums yet?
[15:57] <rever> Not yet looked around on it for the answer but have not posted yet. I usually ask on IRC first then there
[16:00] <rever> Well a nice work around looks like using gigolo
[16:37] <Slonkie> hmm. everytime i start up xubuntu it allways starts the applications i had running when i shut down. Is it possible to turn this feature off?
[16:44] <brandonban6> Slonkie, that's somewhere in the settings. you need to turn off "saved session for next logon" or something like that. Sorry I'm not more specific, i'm on my ubuntu box at the moment and can't remember where that setting is.
[16:45] <Slonkie> I turned that off, it's there when you shutdown
[16:56] <papu> Hello everybody
[16:56] <papu> I got a problem with graphics, and i'm total newbie. Can someone help me?
[17:33] <TT2000> i'm running intrepid amd64 but i'm having 32 compatibility issues.  is there a (simple) way to fix this without dumping amd64 and reverting to x86?
[17:34] <TheSheep> depends on the issues
[17:36] <TT2000> i have installed 4 ia32 packages...am having issue with ...wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[17:39] <kora_> hi im using 8.10;  i wanted to make my ntfs harddrive mount automatically with write privileges for my user, so i added " /dev/sdb1       /media/pladde   fuse    user    0       0" to my fstab. when i plug it in it says my user has no permission to mount blick device. what do i need to to? any advice?
[17:41] <Besogon> /dev/sda3 /media/ntfs   ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[17:41] <Besogon> It is in my fstab
[17:42] <kora_> Besogon: thanks ill try it out
[17:42] <Slonkie> In my fstab it's ntfs-3g and relatime instead of "fuse" and "user"
[17:44] <Besogon> Slonkie, you cant write to your ntfs partition. ntfs-3g only for reading
[17:44] <Slonkie> all right
[17:44] <Slonkie> just diden't work when i used ntfs only
[17:45] <Slonkie> and i believe i'm able to write to it with ntfs-3g
[17:45] <kora_> prblem is, if i plug the drive in, i get an error "only root can mount,.." with your line besogon
[17:45] <kora_> ntfs-3g is for writing ntfs filesystems as far as i know
[17:46] <Slonkie> I am capable of writing, Besogon. :-)
[17:46] <kora_> are your ntfs partitions on your internal hard drive?
[17:47] <kora_> ah i c,... yours are sdA
[17:47] <Slonkie> Yea
[17:47] <kora_> so the drive as is, is already mounted
[17:47] <kora_> my problem is that the partition is on a drive that i plug in to usb
[17:48] <kora_> so it normally needs root privileges because its a block device
[17:48] <kora_> is there a way to add some sudo magic to the mount of block devices?
[17:49] <Besogon> I wrong. he) may be it with "ntfs" instead "ntfs-3g"... But kora_ Are you have USB-flash with ntfs in it?
[17:50] <kora_> Besogon: its a usb hard drive which i plug in from time to time to archive data
[17:50] <kora_> Besogon: thats the problem its a new block device to the system, so i need root privileges to mount it i guess
[17:51] <Besogon> If you have only USB you should not write any line in fstab.
[17:51] <kora_> ok, so what would you recomment to mount it with wirte privilege?
[17:53] <kora_> i c your point, if i plug in another drive it will be sdb too and maybe has another fs on it,..
[17:53] <Besogon> Ask anybody else. (on #ubuntu may be). It is not so easy to decide your problem
[17:53] <kora_> ok thanks for the hints
[17:58] <Besogon> kora_, in ubuntu is included "users-admin" utility. In xfce I dont know
[17:59] <Slonkie> when you insert an NTFS drive it auto mounts?
[17:59] <Slonkie> atleast mine does when i insert one
[18:03] <TheSheep> !ntfs
[18:03] <Besogon> He want to have possibility to write on USB-hard (like I undestand)
[18:03] <TheSheep> !NTFS-3g
[18:04] <Besogon> OK. Ntfs only for read.  I remembered it.
[18:19] <samu> Hey, It's me again, I have question. So, I want my xubuntu to show text more clearly, so how can I make text smoother and easier to read? Like the ClearType in Windows
[18:45] <Slonkie> hmm. everytime i start up xubuntu it allways starts the applications i had running when i shut down. Is it possible to turn this feature off? i tried turning off "Save seesions for future logins" but diden't work.
[18:46] <vinnl> Slonkie, you first have to close all those applications, then select "save session" and *then*, the next time, uncheck that checkbox
[18:47] <Slonkie> ah clever
[18:47] <Slonkie> i'll try that, thanks vinnl.
[18:48] <Slonkie> now that i've got you, you remember helping me make an shortcut for maple? Is it possible to make an icon for this shortcut? :)
[18:49] <vinnl> Slonkie, sure
[18:49] <vinnl> Do you already have the icon anywhere?
[18:50] <Slonkie> there is images in the maple folder but not sure if their the icons, since i can't watch them with any picture viewer
[18:50] <Slonkie> just trying to find some
[18:50] <vinnl> If they're images they can be icons
[18:51] <vinnl> Well... The most common image formats, at least :P
[18:51] <Slonkie> All right i've got them.
[18:51] <Slonkie> it's .png
[18:51] <vinnl> That's OK, I think
[18:52] <vinnl> Slonkie, anyway, to the .desktop file, you just add a line "Icon=<path to image>"
[18:52] <vinnl> (For examples, try editing some of the files in /usr/share/applications with Mousepad)
[18:52] <Slonkie> What's mousepad?
[18:52] <vinnl> Xubuntu's text editor
[18:52] <Slonkie> aha
[18:53] <Slonkie> i prefer nano
[18:53] <vinnl> By the way, for speed, it may be beneficial to first resize the image before you set it as icon
[18:53] <vinnl> Oh any text editor will do :)
[18:53] <Slonkie> Doesn't mather where in the .desktop file i add it?
[18:54] <vinnl> I don't think so, as long as it is not on top
[18:54] <vinnl> For Abiword it's below the Exec= line
[18:54] <Slonkie> okay
[18:56] <Slonkie> this is wierd.. i can't find the maple.desktop :S
[18:57] <Slonkie> tho it's still in my applications menu
[18:57] <vinnl> It's in ~/.local/share/applications I suppose
[18:58] <Slonkie> ah thanks.. i thought it would be in /usr/share/applications
[18:59] <Slonkie> and how is it i reload that datebase needed?
[18:59] <Slonkie> database*
[18:59] <vinnl> Off the top of my head, sudo update-desktop-database
[19:01] <Slonkie> doesn't work
[19:01] <Slonkie> the Icon=<path>
[19:01] <vinnl> Hmm :S
[19:03] <Slonkie> Icon=/root/maple11/bin/maple_icon.gif
[19:03] <Slonkie> ah nvm
[19:03] <Slonkie> maybe it's me
[19:03] <Slonkie> agian :P
[19:03] <vinnl> It works now?
[19:03] <genii> Hm /root
[19:04] <Slonkie> Yep once agian it's my fault
[19:04] <Slonkie> maple chose that dir, genii :(
[19:49] <Slonkie> Is there anyway to remove all the games easy?
[19:50] <cody-somerville> yea
[19:52] <Slonkie> How?
[20:00] <cody-somerville> remove the gnome-games package
[20:01] <Slonkie> Thanks
[20:15] <Slonkie> Anybody knows if there's any application that's capable of making Thunderbird go to tray when minimizing automaticly, not like kdocker where i have to do it manually?
[20:25] <cody-somerville> kdocker is kde
[20:26] <Slonkie> i know
[20:55] <Lint01> how can I switch keyboard layouts in XFCE?
[20:57] <UKGent> Lint01 This might be useful to you   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63759
[20:59] <Lint01> I don't think it's gonna work; this entire section in xorg.conf is commented out because "hal is used instead"
[20:59] <UKGent> Lint01 It seems that there is no obvious way to do it from what I can see - just did a very quick search
[22:13] <Zzyzx_> anyone know how to get around the 8.10 amd64 alternate installer failing after activating SATA RAID on an ASUS P5E-VM DO ?
[22:13] <Zzyzx_> i think it's an HDMI problem?
[23:26] <newuser> key stroke combination for kill X (ctrl+alt+backspace) doesn't work (This on sony vaio pcg-fx120 laptop running 8.04)  suggestions?  (running xev shows that keys are working- not have no effect on killing x)
[23:35] <jarnos> newuser: maybe you could press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and kill X from there?
[23:38] <lukinfore> there is DontZap option in your xorg.conf, If it's enabled, mentioned keystroke won't work. Try to disable it in serverflags section
[23:39] <lukinfore> but, that was default on 8.04 afaik