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picketfenceHey all. I forget how to get the Public Key from http://ubuntu.cafuego.net00:06
picketfenceI know it's a wget command, but I can't remember all there is to it.00:08
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BluesKajpicketfence , copy and paste the "deb" lines , in upper right to your sources.list and do sudo apt-get update00:10
picketfenceAm I correct in thinking that Kubuntu 8.10 running KDE 4.1 is Intrepid?00:13
SteBopicketfence: yes00:16
picketfenceOk, now where is the sources.list? I thought it was in /etc00:17
SteBopicketfence: /etc/apt/sources.list00:18
picketfenceAh, right. I'll get this eventually.  :-)00:18
SteBo:-) cu, I have to go to bed00:27
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sithlord48hey everyone , does any one know why k3b will not burn my junty iso to a blank dvd ?00:46
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bunnykinxhello guys00:48
picketfenceOk, I don't mean to complain, but I have the required lines in my sources.list, but apt-get update still says it cannot find the GPG it needs.00:49
picketfenceAnd of all things, it suggests that I run apt-get update to fix the problem. ???00:49
bunnykinxhas anyone here managed to get kubuntu 9.04 onto a liveusb yet?00:50
picketfenceI'll be back.00:51
bunnykinxis there anyone here that can point me in the right direction to the source for kubuntu 9.0400:56
leonetmsg/ hola01:02
bunnykinx?01:03
leonetalguien que hable español01:03
Sir-Gon#kubuntu-es ?01:03
Sir-Gon:B01:03
leonetmil gracias01:04
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bunnykinxguys... anyone else having problems streaming shoutcast stations on amarok01:24
ameliehi01:30
ameliei know i asked this question several times; but i'm still getting the same problem01:31
ameliei have a intel 64 pc with kubuntu 8.1001:31
ameliei'd downloaded the flashplayer and installed it01:32
ameliebut, for a strange reason it stop working01:32
ameliehow do i make it work?01:32
josh-lis there anything bad about setting up prelink?01:34
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sithlord48jockey does nothing when i try to activate my ati driver <- jaunty amd6401:51
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javierbuenas noches02:07
javieralguien con experiencia con la paca de cideo via chrome 902:08
cuznt!es02:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:10
javiergood night02:11
javiersomething with experience in video chrome 9 igp from via?02:12
javieri have a notebook bangho from argentina and i have serious problem with installation video02:12
javiersorry about my bad english02:13
Lego_Dansomeone please.  I still can't get kubuntu to boot and would just like some help getting back to bsd.. i know i installed kubuntu over my xp partition.. so how to i get back to my bsd partition02:16
Lego_Dangrub doesn't give me any boot options and just keeps booting kubuntu which just keeps doing the same stupid thing... and not booting.02:16
javierfixmbr desde el cd de xp02:17
javiery volves a arrancar el xp02:18
Lego_Danit goes to a black screen with a white outlined x in the bottom middle of my screen and a _ flickering in the top left02:18
Lego_Danjavier, I don't know what you mean.. i dont' know how to use kunbutu.. today was my first day trying to install it and it hasn't been good..02:19
javierlego_dan du you speack spanish?02:19
Lego_Danno02:19
javierok my english its very bad jajajajaj ok02:20
Lego_Danok. thats fine, i will be patient with you if you can with me :)02:20
javiertell me again02:20
javierand im use dictionari02:20
Lego_DanI ran dual boot xp and FreeBSD, and installed kubuntu over xp and it changed the name of the partition, but I can't get Kubuntu to boot, and GRUB won't let me or even show me my BSD partition.. so basically Im screwed... can't boot either os.02:21
Lego_Dani can get to a command prompt in kubuntu but thats it if i let it try and boot kde it crashes every time02:22
Lego_Danand I really either want to get Kubuntu working or get back to bsd :)02:23
Lego_Dan\:(02:23
javierThe live does CD of kubuntu you start(extract) and works correctomente?02:24
Lego_DanIm confused. I used the 8.10 install cd02:25
Lego_Danit installed fine.. but the desktop won't boot, and I can't get back to BSD. like grub didn't notice that i have bsd installed02:26
javierOk owe bootear the CD of kubuntu in way live CD02:27
Lego_Danok how do that?02:27
javierNot the option of installation if not the option live CD02:28
Lego_Dan?02:28
javierYou have to bootear from the CD and when this take-off you aparecera a menu where you can choose the option to try kubuntu without altering the equipment(team)02:29
cuzntlego_dan sounds like x needs to be reconfigured02:29
Elonetaruanyone know how do i passby speed limit in school?02:29
cuznt!reconfigure02:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure02:29
cuznt!x02:29
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution02:29
Lego_Danjavier, ok so im booting the cd.  cuznt, how do I reconfigure x02:32
Lego_Danok so try the option "Try Kubuntu without any change to your computer"02:34
javieryes02:34
Lego_Danok so what will this do?02:34
Lego_Danwhat changes does the kubuntu install make that this won't ??02:35
Lego_Danits not loading the monitor just keeps shutting off.. and then comes on with the _ flashing in the top left corner, then my monitor shuts off again...02:37
Lego_Danits done it about 5 times already02:38
Lego_Danand this is all it does when the actual install try and boot.. only i get the white outlined x in the bottom middle02:38
javierOk give me a second02:40
Lego_Dannow it has stopped.. but the screen is completely black with the _ flashing in the top left corner02:40
shock_day13hey fellows02:42
Lego_Danhello02:43
shock_day13recently i tried to do some customising with satrt up manager02:43
shock_day13and now i dont see usplash screen02:43
shock_day13it shows text insted02:43
shock_day13does anyone know how to solve this problem?02:44
Lego_Dancrazy, I in worse shape then you :P atleast you see something :)02:44
Lego_DanI'm*02:44
shock_day13lol02:44
shock_day13wht happens with you on startup?02:45
Lego_DanI installed 8.10 on my second partition and now I can't access my first partition, and on start up all i get is my monitor shutting of when it comes on i have _ flashing in the top corner and a white outlined x in the bottom middle.. I have a Radeon 2400 HD PCI card, and yea.. It won't let me use my BSD partition...02:46
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shock_day13ohhhhh02:46
Lego_Dan:P i would love a menu issue at this ponit :P02:47
shock_day13:D02:47
Lego_Dani wonder if its my radeon 2400HD or if its kde4 ... I just want grub to let me boot my bsd box...02:48
Lego_Danpartition...02:48
shock_day13did you install 2 distros?02:49
Lego_Danwhat do you mean? I always ran dual boot, xp / bsd . and I installed Kubuntu over xp - deleted the partition and created a slice with the kubuntu install. leaving my BSD partition completely untouched.. and GRUB doesn't see my bsd and automatically just boots into kubuntu which.. doesn't boot properly02:51
adrian__hola02:52
adrian__alguien habla castellano?02:52
shock_day13i dont exactly know the solution to this problem02:52
javiersi02:52
adrian__jeje02:52
shock_day13but i had read in an article02:52
javiersomos dos jajajaja02:52
adrian__como va?02:52
adrian__se02:52
javierbien y vos02:52
adrian__todo ok02:52
adrian__tenes idea02:52
adrian__de como puedo solucionar02:52
adrian__un problema con el audio ALSA02:53
adrian__?02:53
javierque te hace02:53
shock_day13that in case if you want to install 2 distros on one machine then you have to give the same home partion or root partition02:53
shock_day13or something like that02:53
picketfenceWhat is that program that lets you see how much space you have on your hd?02:53
picketfenceI thought it was something like KDiskFree02:53
shock_day13i once tried installing sabayon4 and kubuntu 8.1002:53
shock_day13and faced the same problem02:54
Lego_Danso how do i do that.. why did i never have to with xp and freebsd?02:54
adrian__jeje02:54
adrian__no hace nada02:54
adrian__no tiene audio02:54
adrian__es una satellite a13502:55
adrian__ubuntu 6402:55
javierque distro estas usando02:55
adrian__ubuntu02:55
allencheck02:55
adrian__debian creo02:55
javier8.04?02:55
adrian__8.1002:55
adrian__ahora estaba bajando la 9.0402:55
javieres un dolor de huevos la 8.10 jajajaja02:55
adrian__si?02:55
adrian__grrr02:55
javierespera a que salga la version final02:55
picketfencenever mind, I found it.02:56
adrian__voy a actualizarla02:56
javierpara bajarla02:56
adrian__oka02:56
adrian__de donde sos_02:56
adrian__?02:56
javiertenes el icono del parlante arriba a la derecha02:56
shock_day13well i guess its cos xp has completely different system files02:56
javier?02:56
adrian__si02:56
adrian__es mas02:56
javierde salliquelo prv. de buenos aires02:56
adrian__ah02:56
adrian__mar del plata02:56
adrian__pv de bs b02:56
shock_day13i guess due to the similarity between the linux distros filesystems02:56
shock_day13they conflict each other02:56
adrian__si .es mas02:56
adrian__la ruedita02:56
adrian__del volumen funciona (graficamente digo(02:57
javiersi le das doble click con el boton izquierdo no te habre las preferencia del audio es como el del xp02:57
adrian__si02:57
javiery fijate de subir todos02:57
adrian__no marca error x ningun lado02:57
adrian__pero02:57
shock_day13tell you what02:57
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adrian__no se escuchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa02:57
adrian__grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr02:57
javierya vengo02:57
shock_day13go to google02:57
adrian__oka02:57
adrian__saludossssssssssssssssssss02:57
shock_day13and search for LINUX FOR YOU02:57
shock_day13and in that site02:57
shock_day13go the archives02:58
shock_day13and try to find the article in feb 2009's issue02:58
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Lego_Danhow do i get to the archives..02:59
shock_day13there would be a link for archives on the home page02:59
shock_day13wait i'll give you the url03:00
Lego_Danum :S im getting a website under construction..03:00
shock_day13lol03:02
shock_day13this site just shows the article heading03:03
shock_day13and not the full article03:03
shock_day13http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:UVuNp-oNFNMJ:www.hentzenwerke.com/wp/installingmultiplelinuxdistributions_onasinglebox.pdf+how+to+install+two+different+linux+distributions+on+one+machine&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in&client=firefox-a03:05
shock_day13i hope this would help03:05
Lego_DanThanks I'll give it a read and get back to ya :)03:12
shock_day13no problem03:12
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earleUser talk:67.86.88.191 (hist) candace Mackensen 20060812212714 hive of scum and villainy [edit=sysop:move=sysop]03:53
earlegrr thanks irssi03:53
earles/candace// # tab-paste mistake03:53
earleanyway, that comment made me chuckle03:54
earleugh wrong channel as well!03:54
* earle facepalms03:54
holyscottIs it me or did 9.04 just download kde 4.2.2?03:57
degharhola04:16
theemulatorHola a todos04:18
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yosh_I'm French04:58
yosh_And I'd want to speak to some French speakers04:58
Riesh!fr04:58
[agatha]i will try to find you today evening J-_ so we can catch up a bit... many things changed lately04:58
RieshHe, ubottu is gone04:59
yosh_!fr04:59
[agatha]yosh_:  #ubuntu-fr05:00
[agatha]is the channel for support in french05:00
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mattparryHi, I want to run kde trunk, but having trouble - what is the best channel for help?05:40
GentooJohnnymattparry, good question.05:41
mattparryI an running jaunty, but reading planetkde and all the exciting things going into kde 4.3 I wanted to run trunk05:42
Rieshmattparry: what is this kde trunk you want to run ?05:42
mattparryI have setup a virtualbox guest and installed kubuntu, but I am getting lost in the techbase articals on how to build trunk05:43
Rieshmattparry: kde 4.2.2 just came into Jaunty .... kde.org not even have a roadmap for kde 4.305:43
mattparrywell i *think* I want to run the 4.3 trunk05:43
mattparryok, maybe 4.3 trunk isnt the correct word, but when I read the planet, they say check out so and so in svn05:44
Rieshyou want to compile kde yourself ? ...05:44
mattparryThanks for your questions Riesh - I tried using kde-neon-nightly, but that is not for jaunty and did not update anything05:45
Rieshwill take several hours to compile ... you also need to compile qt yourself i think .... will also take a long time05:45
Rieshmattparry: neon is the nickname for Amarok Nightly build05:45
Rieshnot for kde05:45
mattparrythats correct, but they also do a kde daily build05:46
mattparryim guessing this is not the best channel, i understand that, do you know which is the best channel?05:46
RieshAmarok is the default music player for kde ...05:46
Rieshmaybe you can ask in #kde05:47
mattparrythanks Riesh I will try in #kde05:47
keisangihi there, i installed xbar, but it doesn't display menus.. just tasks06:17
keisangihow can i make it display global menus06:17
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gphi06:40
gpi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically06:41
gphello06:42
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gp_i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically06:42
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gpi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically06:42
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gp2youi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically06:43
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gopogohi06:44
gp2youhello06:45
gp2youi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically06:45
gopogokde 4.2 sucks06:45
gopogoits like vista06:45
gp2youanybody there06:51
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husayni have instaled interpid .. but my screen is blur06:55
husaynand when i decrease resolution to 800*600 it works fine06:56
husaynany idea ?06:56
anr78Isn't setup of dual screen from the gui supported in 8.10/9.04? I can't choose _not_ to clone screens.07:00
wethi, how can i use both mouse and mousepad on 8.10 in same time?07:13
ubuntu_hola07:20
ubuntu_hay alguien alli07:20
ubuntu_soy nuevo en esto y no se que hacer07:20
ubuntu_hey07:21
ubuntu_jackson07:21
ubuntu_hola07:21
ubuntu_hola lepricon07:21
gp2youi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically07:22
jacksonhi07:22
ubuntu_hola07:25
ubuntu_hi jackson07:25
gp2youi am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically07:25
ubuntu_are you there ???07:25
ubuntu_estas alli ??07:25
ubuntu_nin gun culero habla07:26
ubuntu_q puts07:26
tsimpson!es | ubuntu_07:26
ubottuubuntu_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.07:26
ubuntu_tan alli o tan07:26
ubuntu_hello07:26
ubuntu_hi07:26
ubuntu_the usb is a problem07:26
ubuntu_i have a solution07:26
rraphinkfirewire?07:31
rraphinkhi tonio_07:31
Tonio_yop rraphink !07:31
ActionParsnipubuntu_: ease up on the enter key07:32
husayn_i have installed flash player.. but still when i open firefox 3.x or sea monkey it says that you have got a older version of flash or you have flash disabled... now what to do i cant see youtube07:33
jackson!weather 1600107:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about weather 1600107:38
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: hey bro how r u07:39
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: not bad, work is quiet so im chillin07:39
eagles0513875im having a problem mounting my remotte share07:39
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: you ok07:39
eagles0513875jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~$ sudo smbmount //192.168.2.2/users /mnt/WindowsShare -o -username=jonathan,password=623xvnqh48, rw07:39
eagles0513875mount error: can not change directory into mount target /mnt/WindowsShare07:39
eagles0513875getting frustrated as u can see above07:39
ActionParsnipyou have a space in your options line07:40
eagles0513875im trying to mount that folder which i have on a remote machine07:40
eagles0513875where07:40
ActionParsnipbetween , and the r of rw07:40
ActionParsnipyou can't just throw in spaces because it takes your fancy07:40
eagles0513875i know im still only half awake i removed the space but i still get the same error07:40
eagles0513875does the folder have to be shared from the windows machine for it to work07:41
ActionParsnipyes, unless you access one of the automatically shared resources in windows (which i HATE)07:41
eagles0513875thats interesting i typed the machine ip and i logged in and i seem to have access to what i need that way O_O07:42
ActionParsniplike admin$ (WINDOWS\SYSTEM32) and all drives are shared hidden (like C$) and only accessible by Admin accounts07:42
eagles0513875well i logged in with my account which is admin07:42
ActionParsnipis the folder shared as 'users'07:43
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eagles0513875its shared in users07:43
eagles0513875its in the users folder and shared from within07:44
eagles0513875ahhhhhh vista lol07:44
eagles0513875tried to mount it again and the same error07:44
ActionParsnipthen its not shared on LAN, it needs sharing properly, make sure your chosen account has appropriate access to the files as well as the share (windows has 2 share permission sets for some stupid reason)07:45
eagles0513875i added the admin account which is my login acount07:45
eagles0513875so wait i have to add my account jonathan which is the admin account adn the admin account07:45
eagles0513875still nothing07:46
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eagles0513875ActionParsnip: still nothing i have added permissions for admin and jonathan account and still wont mount07:47
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ActionParsnipeagles0513875: is it for the share as well as the files themselves07:49
eagles0513875yes but the files are in other folder07:50
eagles0513875s07:50
eagles0513875i never had this problem in intrepid07:50
eagles0513875seems like there is an issue with it in jaunty and that channel is dead right now07:50
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: try: smbclient -L //192.168.2.207:50
ActionParsnipjaunty is killer :D. I'm loving it07:50
eagles0513875!pastebin07:51
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:51
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/142586/07:51
eagles0513875right now im loving it as well but getting rather frustrated with this samba issue07:51
noren!nvidia07:52
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:52
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: are you in offtopic07:52
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: im wondering if the issue could be caused by the rc of vista sp207:53
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: could ask in ##windows to see if anyone else has this issue. I dont use windows so I cannot really advise past the mount command07:54
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60000407:54
eagles0513875thanks ActionParsnip :) great help as always07:54
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ActionParsniphih noren07:57
norenhi ActionParsnip: i got some prob with nvidia 8600gt card display...... http://imagebin.ca/view/lqEuzN.html  can u guide me07:58
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: im loving jaunty though07:59
norentheres a grid like view always i have updated all the latest drivers also07:59
ActionParsnipnoren: pretty08:01
noren??08:01
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ActionParsnipnoren: boot to root recovery mode and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:01
faLUCEHi. is it possible to extracte a c-style array pointer ( char* , in my case ) from a std::vector<char> ?08:03
eagles0513875faLUCE:  that looks like something for the #c++ channel08:04
husayn_when i open youtube.com from firefox 2, my cpu goes to 100%08:04
husayn_is there a solution to it08:04
tsimpsonfaLUCE: yes, .data(), but as eagles0513875 said ##c++ is where to ask08:04
faLUCEeagles0513875: LOL, I wrote it in the wrong channel08:04
faLUCE:)08:04
norensorry got disconnected ActionParsnipdid u say something08:04
faLUCEtsimpson: thanks anyway :)08:04
faLUCEtsimpson: anyway you gave me the right answer :) :)08:05
tsimpsonfaLUCE: btw, if you want a vector<char>, why not just use std::string ;)08:05
tsimpsonsame thing really, but with convenience functions08:05
norensorry got disconnected ActionParsnip did u say something08:06
faLUCEtsimpson: it can vary08:06
tsimpsonfaLUCE: vary how?08:06
faLUCEtsimpson: it can be a vector of other types too08:07
tsimpsonfaLUCE: if you're writing a template, just use iterators08:07
ActionParsnipnoren: just saying howdy08:07
faLUCEtsimpson: I'm using a template08:07
faLUCEnot writing one08:07
tsimpsonfaLUCE: most will want iterators then08:08
norenActionParsnip: i m good but not my display :(08:08
ActionParsnipnoren: what release are you using?08:08
norensince my prob is same with windows and ubuntu i m looking for some deep end solution08:10
eagles0513875!release | noren08:10
ubottunoren: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases08:10
eagles0513875wrong thing noren08:10
eagles0513875!version | noren08:10
ubottunoren: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »08:10
noreneagles0513875: what good the version do ??08:11
eagles0513875tells you what release of kubuntu you have08:12
eagles0513875if its intrepid hardy w/e08:12
eagles0513875that will give the answer to what ActionParsnip had asked about what version you have08:12
ActionParsnipnoren: if you can boot to recovery root console, run: lsb_release -c08:13
norenActionParsnip: i m using ubuntu jaunty as of now08:14
ActionParsnipnoren: jaunty isnt supported here08:14
ActionParsnipnoren: /j #ubuntu+108:14
norenhttp://imagebin.ca/view/lqEuzN.html this is the prob i m trying to fix, the grid like view. very anoying08:15
norenActionParsnip: i know but jaunty is not the prob, its the same in hardy also08:15
ActionParsnipnoren: well you are running jaunty so are subject to jaunty beta-ness08:16
ActionParsnipnoren: so your support is in +1 until you rinstall intrepid or the official release of jaunty08:17
norenanyone knows any official support channel of nvidia.. i think this is card specific prob08:17
norenActionParsnip: i have both intrepid 32bit and jaunty 64bit as of now08:17
ActionParsnipthen i'd check your nvidia hardware is ok, you should be able to use the 180 driver08:18
norenyes i am trying to figure out how to check if my nvidia hardware is ok08:19
ActionParsnipnoren: i'd open case and look at it with the system off and make sure its plugged in correctly if its an expansion card08:24
norenmy prob is 400w psu enogh for 8600gt ??08:26
ActionParsnipdepends on ram amount and cpu speed / type as well as all the other junk in your system08:26
ActionParsnipnoren: if you have 8 CPUs with 64Gb RAM, probably not08:27
noreni got 1 gb ram and amd 64bit dual processor08:28
ActionParsnipshould be ok08:29
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marie_blubbmorning. I'd like to install my scanner canoscan 9900f but I cannot find drivers. I'm new to kubuntu, so what do I do? install XP?08:58
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49575208:59
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: let me see if canon have a driver08:59
Underbyte0000*hugs his gnome and its "search for drivers" feature*09:00
Tm_TUnderbyte0000: your point is?09:00
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: nope, they dont make one09:01
marie_blubbcanon just supports macintosh and windows. the forum says its not going to work. I found a few other forums that tell me the same. but what do I do then, really install a second XP09:01
marie_blubbdo the drivers for mac work with linux ?09:02
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: looks like you need a dual boot or use the scanner on a seperate system09:02
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: i wouldnt think so at all, no09:02
marie_blubbhm really? do you have these problems often with linux. as I'm newbie that confuses me really09:05
RurouniJonesScanners can be a pain in the arse with linux09:05
RurouniJonesPrinters less so09:05
Tm_TRurouniJones: now now09:05
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: linux is unfortunately considered "niche"09:05
Tm_Tmarie_blubb: I usually look first what I buy, so, HP for example is known to have good support for Linux09:05
RurouniJonesBasically for scanners you want to find one that aworks nicely with linux before you buy09:05
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: stupid companys dont make drivers as they can make a tonne more money supporting "more popular" OSes09:06
Underbyte0000Tim_T: My point is that Either Gnome is better then KDE or KDE is better then Gnome for several obscure and ultimately irrelivant reaosns that i'm sure we could argue for hours09:06
Underbyte0000:-P09:06
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: so they ditch linux / BSD etc09:06
marie_blubbok thanks. :(09:06
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: if you mak sure the scanner you intend to purchase is linux friendly you wont get tis kind of issue, same with all hardware09:06
Tm_TUnderbyte0000: 1) you failed with my nick  2) false, that function is also in KDE, it's called jockey-(your DE)09:06
Tm_T!jockey09:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about jockey09:07
Tm_Thmmmm09:07
RurouniJones!info jockey09:07
ubottuPackage jockey does not exist in intrepid09:07
Tm_T!info jockey-kde09:07
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5~beta3-0ubuntu6.1 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 96 kB09:07
Tm_T!info jockey-gnome09:08
ubottuPackage jockey-gnome does not exist in intrepid09:08
Tm_Tanyway, packages related to it:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jockey&searchon=names&suite=intrepid09:09
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Underbyte0000Tm_T: 1)Ach, die grammatischen nazi ist hier!  2)Perhaps, but thats irrelivant because KDE is so damn conveluted, its hard to find anything.  3)google knows too09:17
* genii thinks about switching to decaf09:34
[Vex]genii: don't! it doesn't work ;)09:35
genii[Vex]: I was up half the night working on a tough problem and had too much caffeine now09:36
[Vex]genii: there's no such thing!09:36
geniiHeh, I'd usually agree09:36
[Vex]genii: there's "the shits", but no such thing as too much coffee09:36
[Vex]how come I can have more than one KDE Wallet Service ?09:38
[Vex]my kvpnc uses another one than my i.e. KMail (and yesterday my kssaskpass)09:39
geniiWell, you can have multiple wallets, each with it's own password, etc.09:39
ActionParsnipyou can have too much, i have a mate who chugs energy drinks all day and he's borderline diabetic09:46
ActionParsnipand has a lot of shaks09:46
ActionParsnip*shakes09:46
ActionParsnipnot cool09:46
[Vex]genii: not the issue09:48
[Vex]genii: yesterday, I had ksshaskpass v 0.4.1, this somehow included a linkage to an old version of kwallet09:49
[Vex]compiled v 0.5.1 -> issue solved09:49
[Vex]now for kvpnc.....09:49
genii[Vex]: Ah, glad to see you resolved it, and shared the solution as well for others09:50
[Vex]sharing ;) is caring09:50
edward_hi09:51
edward_guten morgen09:51
[Vex]genii: crap... Help -> About in kvpnc says: "kvpnc 0.9.0 (Using KDE 3.5.10)"09:52
genii[Vex]: Heh!09:52
[Vex]edward_: german? then is hello, it's 10:52 AM ;)09:52
[Vex]genii: fresh compile then... damn this09:53
genii[Vex]: Perhaps you require kpnc-kde4   or similar09:53
geniibleh typos09:53
[Vex]hmmm09:53
[Vex]from where?09:54
geniiDid you check apt-cache search  ?09:54
[Vex]dpkg -l , but didn't update dselect09:55
[Vex]2 sec09:55
[Vex]nothing09:56
geniiI'm on 3.5.10 so have no real recourse for finding it.09:56
[Vex]not even when using : apt-cache search kvpnc09:56
[Vex]genii: ok...09:56
genii[Vex]:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kvpnc?content=12570  shows a link for kde4 sources09:56
ActionParsnipapt-cache search vpn09:56
[Vex]really looking forward to Jaunty09:57
ActionParsnip[Vex]: its nice09:57
[Vex]ActionParsnip: "Stable"?09:57
geniiI don't install interim versions normally. My habit is LTS->LTS09:57
[Vex]genii: thanks mate!!! was in there, but didn't see the link09:57
ActionParsnipwell my linux use is very limited and my hardware is 100% compatible with linux09:57
ActionParsnipso mine is fine09:57
ActionParsnipyours may be different09:58
ActionParsnipyou could install toa usb stick to try it ;)09:58
ActionParsnips'what i did, then upgraded once it was ok09:58
[Vex]ActionParsnip: an idea yes09:59
* [Vex] is compiling10:00
ActionParsnip[Vex]: tried apt-build ?10:00
[Vex]nope10:01
[Vex]checkinstall10:01
ActionParsnipapt-build uses deb-src repos instead of deb repos, downloads source and compiles the app in10:01
geniiNeed to reboot to check something I'm working on. /away a while10:02
ActionParsnipyou can specify level of optomisation for the compiles too, makes your system run like gentoo, a little10:02
marie_blubbi have 4 pcs, and 3 should have to access the data of the number 1 pc. thus I need a network and ione pc has to share its data with the others. how do I do that? I already managed to have fix IPs10:02
thehammerhi10:05
thehammeri've a problem installing grup on a ICH9 fake-raid10:06
[Vex]ActionParsnip: if I wanted my system to run like gentoo.....10:06
[Vex]ActionParsnip: but of course it makes it more "uptodate"10:07
[Vex]which is wahet I obviously need right now10:07
[Vex]I'll give it a go10:07
ActionParsnipits just another way to install stuff10:07
[Vex]ActionParsnip: ok10:08
thehammeri'm trying to install grup in a chroot10:09
thehammerchroot works, but10:09
[Vex]Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU : Architecture must be core2 then10:09
thehammergrub-install  /dev/sda says: /dev/mapper/isw_didbiagabc_Volume06 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.10:09
[Vex]thehammer: ls -al /dev/ ?10:10
thehammerworks (long output)10:10
[Vex]ok, then I can't help, sry10:11
marie_blubbhm was my question a tricky one or too easy? sry I'm new to kubuntu and blond ;)10:15
Tm_Tmarie_blubb: you can use NFS, SSHFS or SMB atleast10:16
marie_blubbthanks now I have something to google for. very confusing for me thelinux world..10:22
Tm_T!smb | marie_blubb10:22
ubottumarie_blubb: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.10:22
Tm_Tfor example (:10:23
marie_blubbthanks can samba communicate with one windows pc and 3 linux pcs as well?10:25
ActionParsnipmarie_blubb: samba can communicate with all modern OSes10:27
marie_blubbubottu the second link doesnt work. . but it sounds like a perfect guide for me as I beginner and then I dont habe to ask stupid questions anymore :)10:28
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:28
[Vex]ActionParsnip: an apt-build update will only update the packages prior comlied by apt-build, or?10:30
ActionParsnip[Vex]: they will check the deb-src repos you have specified in /etc/apt/sources.list10:30
[Vex]ActionParsnip: sry, meant "apt-build upgrade"10:30
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ActionParsnipand download the source code for apps you wish to install rather than precompiled bianrys10:31
[Vex]and "apt-build world"10:31
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ActionParsnip[Vex]: for world you will need to create a file with a list of installed apps10:31
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[Vex]ActionParsnip: ok, and "upgrade"10:31
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ActionParsnip[Vex]: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Build_Architecture.html10:31
Tm_T!away > saschpe__away10:32
ubottusaschpe__away, please see my private message10:32
ActionParsnip[Vex]: to upgrade you'd rebuild world10:32
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[Vex]ActionParsnip: but those are two diff commands...10:32
ActionParsnip[Vex]: it can be fun but it ca get messy too, makes my firefox perform halfway decent rather than its usual bloated sluggishness10:33
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[Vex]where is my repository?10:34
[Vex]gotta have a look...10:34
ActionParsnipif you read /etc/apt/sources.list10:36
ActionParsnipwhere it says deb-src  those will be used10:36
Tm_TActionParsnip: hmm, I'm wondering if this should have it's own channel, this apt-build in Ubuntu10:37
Tm_TActionParsnip: as it's bit of its own world, right?10:37
ActionParsnipTm_T: thats not my call. Its a fully fledged feature of *buntu though10:37
Tm_TI know10:37
ActionParsnip!info apt-build10:37
ubottuapt-build (source: apt-build): frontend to apt to build, optimize and install packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.36 (intrepid), package size 35 kB, installed size 208 kB10:37
[Vex]ActionParsnip: found my answer in /etc/apt/apt-build.conf10:37
Tm_TActionParsnip: I mean it in the sense to collect the wisdom to one place (:10:37
[Vex]build-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/build10:38
[Vex]repository-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/repository10:38
ActionParsnip[Vex]: have fun10:38
[Vex]thx, looks cool10:38
ActionParsnipTm_T: i only know how to use it, i dont know about "wisdom" :D10:38
ActionParsnipapart from they make unlicensed NES games10:39
ActionParsnipusually bible related10:39
[Vex]ActionParsnip: it just compiled the old kde3.5 version... :(10:43
ActionParsnipcool10:44
[Vex]nope, wanted the kde4 version :(10:44
[Vex]argh, it removed kdelibs5-dev and installed kdelibs4-dev10:47
ActionParsnipmake sure you have deb-src for all your deb repos10:49
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asranielhi there. anybody has the problem in jaunty that kontakt starts two times on login? (will be back in 10 minutes, thx for the answers)10:51
larsaamHi! Anyone know why the search function in Konqueror disappear after a search?10:51
moskalenkohi! I've a problem with my tv-tuner! It's GOTView USB 2.0 Hybrid MasterStick. Does anybody know how to make it work?10:52
yoritomohello all10:54
larsaammoskalenko: it do now show up in kopete?10:54
larsaammoskalenko: or xawtv?10:54
yoritomois it somebody  got succes to install a printer Lexmark 2300 series under kubuntu ?10:55
moskalenkolarsaam: what do mean about kopete?10:55
larsaammoskalenko: kopete > settings > configure > video10:55
[Vex]ActionParsnip: don't know if I did it, but now there is a package for the right one ;)10:55
larsaammoskalenko: just to see if the card is detected...10:56
ActionParsnipyoritomo: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-230010:56
ActionParsnip[Vex]: nice10:56
moskalenkolarsaam: ah! understood! i can't check it right now, but i'm afraid it won't be detected there. I installed tvtime and it said nothing to me10:57
yoritomoyes i came from that page, and it is nonsense , finally not working on the end of the tutorial :s10:58
[Vex]or not...10:58
XKiLL3Rhi all10:58
larsaammoskalenko: maybe run lsusb / lscp to find the chipset of the card?10:59
XKiLL3Ri need help10:59
XKiLL3Revery time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen10:59
moskalenkolarsaam: lsusb shows me this:11:00
moskalenkoBus 007 Device 006: ID 5654:525411:00
larsaammoskalenko: its an usb videocard, right?11:00
moskalenkolarsaam: right11:01
XKiLL3R every time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen Why :S ?!, i am runing kubuntu 8.10 , VGA = ATI HD 2600 ...11:01
yoritomoActionParsnip i installed the script provided, and then i followed the instruction finally himself he said on the tutorial he needed a macos driver which he could not use :s11:01
susbwoyHi, I recently installed firefox-3.0 and flashplugin-nonfree on Kubuntu 8.10. youtube videos work however there is no sound in the videos. Is someone able to point me into the right direction? I've found some info regarding not being in the 'audio' group, but sound works fine in KDE.11:02
moskalenkolarsaam: i can type the hardware used in this tv-tuner, but i don't know, what to do with it11:02
ActionParsnipyoritomo: thats all i know,11:02
ActionParsnip!hcl11:02
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection11:02
ActionParsnipyoritomo: check thehcl ^11:02
XKiLL3RActionParsnip:  can u help me ?11:02
SandGorgonguys.. i installed a minimal kde setup (from minimal CD) - I dont have system settings app. How do I get that ?11:02
ActionParsnipyoritomo: did you check the lexmark site for a ppd file?11:02
ActionParsnipXKiLL3R: whatsup?11:03
XKiLL3RActionParsnip: hey , i got a problem on my vga11:03
XKiLL3RActionParsnip: here is it " every time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen Why :S ?!, i am runing kubuntu 8.10 , VGA = ATI HD 2600 ..."11:04
ActionParsnipsusbwoy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D590989&ei=b43USYKULdKEtwf2zszgDw&usg=AFQjCNGQDXzPk7_88kMOXv4dysBNdB9gHQ    http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=4&q=http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/msg00168.html&ei=b43USYKULdKEtwf2zszgDw&usg=AFQjCNF3ZA_f2wG8dmbRnj6nfFkpMy72kg      http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/001311:04
larsaammoskalenko: maybe search for the hardware at google.com/linux11:04
ActionParsnip!ati | XKiLL3R11:04
ubottuXKiLL3R: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:04
larsaammoskalenko: that will narrow your search quite well, hopefully :)11:04
[Vex]ActionParsnip: hmmm I only have deb-src in my /etc/apt/sources.list, not in ./etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-build.. is that wrong11:04
ActionParsnipXKiLL3R: you should ask the room rather than just me11:04
moskalenkolarsaam:i'll see :)11:04
ActionParsnip[Vex]: that sounds fine to me11:05
XKiLL3RActionParsnip:  lol yea i already did but no 1 replay :D11:05
XKiLL3RThx alot anyway11:05
ActionParsnip[Vex]: try: sudo apt-build update11:05
[Vex]ActionParsnip: then I can't get it to work... though it warned about deb-src for universe in experimental11:05
[Vex]ActionParsnip: I did11:06
ActionParsnip[Vex]: should be ok then, thats all ive ever done, make sure you have deb-src for all your repos then away you go11:07
[Vex]ActionParsnip: I'll keep trying11:09
Le-Chuck_ITAGood day all, any of you knows by chance in which package (if any) are the localizations for kile in jaunty? I recall some kile-i18n-it which is no longer there11:12
yoritomoActionParsnip, i tryed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkZ23 but not working neither11:18
[Vex]yoritomo: his offline11:30
yoritomo??11:32
yoritomoah thanks11:32
[Vex]yoritomo: not sure if there is a difference between your link... but maybe this: http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/intrepid/#z2311:34
mrb__hey everybody.. i just installed VMware Workstationa and Player after creating .deb from the .rpm but i cant find where to runt he application from11:34
mrb__can any one help on that plz ?11:34
[Vex]yoritomo: yes, it's ubuntu, but still11:34
yoritomo[Vex]> thanks for this link11:45
yoritomoapproximately same yes11:45
mrb__anybody got the VMware installed on Kubuntu.. need some help plz ?11:45
yoritomolooks like installed now but not working :s11:51
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yoritomo[Vex]> still not working11:57
marie_blubbi have one data server and 4 pcs that save data on this server. the pcs working on the server are kubuntu & windows pcs. would you say samba oder nfs is the better choice. *as easier as better*11:57
DadanKarambolo_samba is easyer for windwos clients11:58
arisdoes anybody would help me, i'm trying to migrate from ubuntu to PC-BSD without cd boot, ...12:00
geniimarie_blubb: Did you mean to write "samba or nfs" or "samba over nfs" ?12:00
marie_blubbgenii samba or nfs. i think i use either samba or nfs12:01
AzAelhrmm quassel is a wee bit featureless12:01
AzAelor am i missing something12:02
geniimarie_blubb: Ah, OK. Yes, samba is the way when you have mixed operating systems12:02
AzAelgenii: cept when you get permissions hell in a multiuser shares12:03
AzAelthen again i always get permissions hell12:03
geniiAzAel: Nah, just map em to a username which is used on the server only12:03
yoritomo[Vex] when i want to use the ppd script on the printer configuration nothing happens12:04
yoritomomaybe i should launch the config system as kdesudo but i don't know its name12:04
[Vex]yoritomo: normally localhost:631 ask for root pw12:05
[Vex]thats cups12:05
AzAelheh file_mode=755, dir_mode=75512:06
AzAelproblemo solved12:06
yoritomoi don't understand well12:06
[Vex]yoritomo: browse to localhost:631 and set up a new printer using the ppd file12:07
yoritomowhat is localhost:631?12:07
yoritomobut when i wanna browse with the tab, nothing happens, nor when i type the link12:08
geniiyoritomo: That is the web interface to the printer configuration of CUPS12:08
yoritomohow to use it?12:11
[Vex]take firefox, point it to http://localhost:63112:11
[Vex]follow instructions12:11
yoritomowow thanks12:12
[Vex]yoritomo: usb attached?12:12
[Vex]nevermind12:13
yoritomoyes12:13
yoritomoit ask for location12:13
yoritomousb1 ?12:13
yoritomoor usb #1 ?12:14
[Vex]yoritomo: is it attached to /dev/usb1 ?12:14
yoritomoBus 002 Device 005: ID 043d:00bb Lexmark International, Inc. 2300 Series12:16
yoritomolooks like 2 ?12:16
yoritomobut on the utilisty written usb #112:16
[Vex]unplug the printer, wait 5 secs, plug it in again, wait 5 secs, type "dmesg" in terminal12:17
[Vex]see what it registers as12:17
[Vex]maybe someone else knows a better way....12:17
marie_blubbi'd like to use hardlinks for my backup. if i use samba is that just a software that doesnt allow hardlinks over the network or in general?12:19
[Vex]marie_blubb: I wasn't here when you ask your question.... backup over samba? rsync not an option?12:20
tomcbehi12:20
tomcbeI am new to this IRC chat12:21
tomcbesome one help me12:21
[Vex]tomcbe: doing great at irc so far12:21
[Vex];)12:21
tomcbehow to sent emoticons here12:22
[Vex]regular old-school smileys12:22
geniiType them out12:22
tomcbeha ha ha12:22
[Vex]but that not very Kubuntu ;)12:22
[Vex]ahhh your happy ;)12:22
tomcbeno pics?12:22
[Vex]not in textchats... no...12:22
marie_blubb[Vex] i have a data server and 4 pcs that save thier data on the server. now i have to decide if i use nfs or samba. one of the 4 pcs is using windows and I'm not sure if samba or nfs is the better chioce. I want to make backups (hardlinks) within the data server (not over the network)12:23
RurouniJonesIRC doesn't support image based smileys12:23
RurouniJonesYou have to go oldskool :)12:23
tomcbeare there any bots here12:24
RurouniJones!bot12:24
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:24
genii!hi12:24
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:24
tomcbelike in windows12:24
yoritomo[vex] i could use that online utility correctly12:24
yoritomoand it looks installed but still not working then i think the problem is the driver :(12:24
AzAeltomcbe: irc is  the same whether you use windows mac or linux or even a mobile phone12:25
yoritomothey hint Z35 for lexmark 230012:25
geniiGah Lexmark12:25
AzAelgenii: LOL12:25
[Vex]marie_blubb: hmmm.... smbfs or nfs for saving data... saving data = backup?12:26
geniiAzAel: Someone gave me a crappy one which was sort of the printer equivelent of a winmodem12:26
[Vex]genii: lexmark is ok, as long as pcl er ps12:27
genii[Vex]: ps printers of any kind are always nice12:27
[Vex]genii: jupz12:27
geniiWhen i have a choice i try and get ahold of HP stuff12:28
marie_blubb[Vex ok sorry. i have a office and all the workers save thier data on one other pc (the server). within this server i have 4 Hard drives and i make backups with hardlinks. now I'd like to know if nfs or sama is the better choice for the connection with the server and if I can use hardlinks (within the server)  in case I use samba for the connechtion12:30
tomcbeanyone from india12:31
victor__i have ubuntu and i wanna instal the kade, i'm really begginer, so i need some help to do it,  anybody?12:31
fosco_victor__: kde?12:32
conholstersudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:32
RurouniJones!info kde-desktop12:32
ubottuPackage kde-desktop does not exist in intrepid12:32
RurouniJonesOh yea, beaten to it AND I got the name wrong12:32
victor__uy yeah kde :P12:33
[Vex]marie_blubb: as long as all is saved on the server, the way it got there shouldn't matter12:33
victor__so just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   ???12:33
[Vex]marie_blubb: (it's a little off topic here, but anyways) I'd use samba, works well cross-platform12:33
victor__and if i want it in spanish?12:33
conholsteryea as simple as that12:34
victor__but all my stuff isn't gonna change?12:34
conholsterdont forget to select kde session when you log in12:34
victor__i mean wifi and whatever12:34
conholsterdunno12:34
tomcbehow to develop aplications for linux12:34
tomcbewhich software I have to use12:35
tomcbelike vb in windows12:35
conholsterknetmanager12:35
bazhangtomcbe, compile?12:35
[Vex]!info kubuntu-desktop12:35
ubottukubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.101 (intrepid), package size 20 kB, installed size 48 kB12:35
tomcbeyes baz12:36
[Vex]tomcbe: very wide question there ;)12:36
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tomcbewhy?12:37
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bazhangtomcbe, build-essential12:37
victor__#kubuntu-es  ???12:37
bazhang!compile | tomcbe read this also12:37
ubottutomcbe read this also: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)12:37
geniitomcbe: The world of linux has many choices. Also depends on what language you want to begin programming in12:37
[Vex]application of which kind? language?12:38
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[Vex]programminglanguage*12:38
tomcbeyes programming language like visual basic12:38
RurouniJones9.04 is kde 4.2 isn't it?12:39
[Vex]RurouniJones: should become so yes ;)12:39
RurouniJonesand intrpid is 4.1.whatever right?12:40
tony__I want to email a snapshot of my desktop, how do I do it? I have Ksnapshot.12:40
david_does anyone know if kpackagekit will honor the apt-listchanges settings?12:40
tomcbewhat are the programming languages available in linux12:40
conholstertony: write email or take screenshot?12:41
[Vex]RurouniJones: in experimental I think, yes12:41
tony__screenshot12:41
ActionParsnipyo yo yo12:41
[Vex]RurouniJones: wait for Jaunty if you wan't KDE4.... I had SOME trouble running KDE4 in Intrepid12:41
RurouniJonesYea, that was my plan12:41
[Vex]yo yo yo ActionParsnip12:41
[Vex]T-minus 21 days12:41
marie_blubbstupid question: I'd like to use samba but how do I open Swat *sorry the documentations are not really for beginners12:42
RurouniJonesBit miffed that jaunty is delayed but what the heck. I'll survive on KDE 3.512:42
conholstertony:  press Print Screen12:42
RurouniJonesStill peeved they went KDE4 so early12:42
conholstershould work12:42
glen_its beside F1212:42
ActionParsnipor run kscreenshot12:42
ActionParsnip!info kscreenshot12:42
ubottuPackage kscreenshot does not exist in intrepid12:42
conholstercalled ksnapshot12:42
ActionParsnip!find screenshot12:42
ubottuFound: gpe-screenshot12:42
[Vex]RurouniJones: that topic was set on the 1/412:42
ActionParsnipbah12:43
ActionParsnip!info ksnapshot12:43
ubottuksnapshot (source: kdegraphics): screen capture tool for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 212 kB, installed size 496 kB12:43
tony__ok, and the person wants to see it from an email. how do i send it?12:43
[Vex]RurouniJones: sry, that was topic on #ubuntu+112:43
conholsterattach to email12:43
tony__ok12:44
glen_I just changed my screen resolution, but now the text runs beyond my visable screen on the left side.12:50
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espereguanyone knows why kickoff search does not get the focus anymore when I open the menu?12:50
tomcbehow to program in kubundu12:50
conholsterglen: hold Alt key down then klick and drag window12:51
ActionParsniptomcbe: can you be more specific12:51
tomcbethat is I want to develop a billing program to run in kubundu12:51
geniitomcbe: First learn about shells like bash. then work up to other languages like python and perl.12:51
conholstertombce: python + pyQT12:52
tomcbewhere to get that python12:52
conholster+ eric IDE google12:52
conholstersudo apt-get python should be installed by default12:52
RurouniJonestomcbe: You are in danger of becoming a help vampire - http://www.slash7.com/pages12:53
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glen_Alt key is not working for me.   The maximized window is larger than my screen.  I cant even see the left edge untill I Unmaximize the application12:54
ActionParsnipglen_: right click in task bar where minimised apps go and click restore12:55
espereguanyone knows why kickoff search does not automaticaly has the focus anymore?12:58
conholsterglen: can resize with Alt key down + left click and drag?12:58
conholsterglen: can you*12:59
tomcbepython in not there in my system I m using  kubuntu13:00
tomcbehow to install python13:00
conholstertombce: sudo apt-get install python13:01
ActionParsniptomcbe: sudo apt-get install python13:01
conholsteranyone got experience running kde on thinclients? faster or slower than gnome?13:02
glen_I can resize an un-maximized window by holding left mouse & dragging.  But nnothing seems to effect the maximized window.  Perhaps because it is off the screen at that point.13:02
tomcbewhen I  used that command I got the message python is already the newest version13:02
tomcbewhere to find python in my system13:03
conholsterglen: try left click on taskbar and click maximize should unmaximize windos13:04
conholsterwindow*13:04
jussi01tomcbe: do: locate python13:04
conholsterrunning kde4.2.1 here...not sure if its available in earlier kde413:05
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Laeborg!9.0413:13
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.13:13
conholsterlol was gonna ask if anyone knew if 4.2.2 was getting packaged for intrepid....just did update and upgrade and 4.2.2 downloading now13:14
zak_anyone using kmail with a yahoo account please ?i got issues send mails with kmails13:18
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suvaribeyhellp13:52
devisciao a tutti13:53
devishello13:53
rosco_yHi13:53
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Sqyberwhere i can download kubuntu with kde 4.2 ?14:03
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canenhello14:16
BluesKaj'morning folks14:16
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canenanyone got the ATI Radeon X300 to work properly with composite in kde?14:16
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BluesKajcomposite ?14:17
canendesktop effects14:17
canenif i turn them off it randomly freezes the computer14:18
miklcctSqyber: get jaunty beta14:18
Sqyberdownloading atm :)14:18
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rosco_ycanen: I have had fair success with the ATI X90014:32
canenrosco_y: yeah? mind sharing your xorg.conf?14:32
caneni've changed things so many times i am not even sure where i am now.14:32
canentried both opensource and the fglrx but eventually they both crash or say it's too slow14:33
Havoc][hm, just saw the announcement for kde 4.2.2. Is there any plan to add this to ppa-experimental for intrepid?14:36
canenalready there14:36
canenjust got an update14:36
Havoc][uh.. thanks :-)14:36
Havoc][canen: because, the kmail improvements sounds good.14:38
canenglad to see those as well14:38
canenjust recently started using kmail again and i love it14:39
canenexcept for one bug where filters don't work properly if any of the spam filters are enabled14:39
Havoc][canen: yes, its really nice. i could be smoother (for example the could cache the shown imap-mails).. but its, imho, better than thunderbird.14:40
Havoc][and of course: its better integrated into kde.14:40
canenyeah14:40
canenyou have cached imap for that....although i hear it is buggy so i don't use it14:40
ibrarHow can i use 2.4 kernel with 8.10 kubuntu14:41
Havoc][hm, maybe we are talking about other things. i meant, every time, kmail checks imap mails, it rebuilds the email-tree. that takes about 20 seconds...14:42
canensorry i meant disconnected imap14:42
thehammerikonia: re14:43
ikoniathehammer: ?14:44
cuznt!quassell14:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about quassell14:45
thehammeri've managed to install kubuntu with a /boot partition and a raid014:45
conholsteribrar: prolly wont work that easy. if you need 2.4.x kernel try older distro14:45
ikoniathehammer ok?14:45
thehammerikonia:  nearly14:45
ikoniathehammer: why are you telling me ?14:46
thehammerthe kubuntu installer didn't recognized the raid14:46
ikoniaI know this14:46
ikoniait won't/shouldn't14:46
thehammerso everything is on this partition14:46
ibrarbut 6.06 is not picking drivers for my desktop14:46
ikoniathehammer: why are you telling me this, I have no problems with raid14:46
thehammeryou helped me a few hours ago14:46
conholsteribrar: which drivers?14:47
ibrarconholster: ?14:47
ikoniadid I?14:47
thehammeryep14:47
ikoniathehammer: sorry, I don't remember14:47
thehammerkk14:47
ibrarMy network cards14:47
ibrarI have 3 network cards in my desktop14:47
ibrarand 6.0.6 which has 2.4 kernel only picking 1 card14:47
conholsteribrar: your nics will prolly work with the 2.6.x kernel in 8.1014:48
thehammerso  - how can I use this rais to boost my system? mount it as /usr?14:48
ibrarconholster: True, but i need a feature which is only in 2.4 kernel14:49
thehammer*raid14:49
Unksiibrar: 6.06 has 2.6.15, none of ubuntu's have used 2.414:49
Unksi*ubuntus14:49
patarokhello!14:49
ibrarUnksi: yesterday someone told me that it has 2.414:49
ibrarUnksi: and some some tells me that it as 2.414:49
ibrarUnksi: Let me check14:49
patarokcan somebody tell me why i cant find libkde4-devel in my standard repo (9.04)14:50
Unksiibrar: packages.ubuntu.com only shows up 2.6.1514:50
conholsteribrar: slackware 10 at least has 2.4.x kernel14:50
Unksiibrar: oh wait, yea it does have 2.4.27 there^14:50
Unksias well14:50
Unksiits just with totally different name14:51
ibrarUnksi: Whats its name14:51
Unksiibrar: kernel*14:51
ibrarUnksi: 2.4.x14:52
Unksi2.4.2714:52
ibrarUnksi: any 2.4.x14:52
Unksithats the version they have there^14:52
rosco_yis anyone using two versions of ubuntu on two partitions of the same drive?14:52
ibrarUnksi: 2.6.1514:53
ibrarUnksi: 2.6.15-26-38614:53
conholsterrosco: no but had several distros on same comp14:53
rosco_yI am trying to figure out how to modify grub to allow me to boot my second installation of ubuntu14:53
Unksikernel-image-2.4.27-2-38614:53
Unksisearch packages.ubuntu.com with kernel on dapper14:54
NiTzerLinux Linux media14:56
ibrarUnksi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-38614:56
Unksiye14:56
ibrarUnksi: Its only kernel image, so i have to install this kernel image with depper14:58
ibrarUnksi: Its only kernel image, so i have to install this kernel image with dapper14:58
Unksithere are headers too14:59
sebastianpmoin14:59
Unksiand some patches^14:59
Unksihi sebastianp14:59
sebastianpi've a small problem:15:04
sebastianpi've 2 partitions: sda2 and md015:04
sebastianpsda2 is mounted as / and md0 currently not mounted15:05
sebastianpmd0 is a raid0 and sda2 on a slow device15:05
vnwarriorhi guys.. installed a minimal KDE on ubuntu... but I dont have system-settings in my launcher... what is the settings program called ?15:05
sebastianpis it possible to mount sda2 as /boot and md0 as /15:06
sebastianpif it is possible - how can I do that?15:07
mefisto__vnwarrior: it's called systemsettings15:07
vnwarriormefisto__: ty15:08
mefisto__sebastianp: I'm pretty sure /boot on a different partition is possible, but since I've never actually done it, I won't try to explain how it should be done. I'm sure googling will turn up something15:10
mefisto__sebastianp: what you need to do basically is to tell grub where /boot can be found and where / can be found15:11
sebastianpyep15:11
sebastianpso I have to copy everything to md0 and /boot to /15:12
sebastianpedit fstab and grub15:12
marie_blubbi'd like to use samba and installes swat. i dont get the global options in swat. what did I do wrong15:12
sebastianpand everything should work15:12
ibrarUnksi: Its possible to use this kernel with 8.10?15:13
sebastianpproblem is - i will kill my system that way I think15:13
Unksiibrar: no idea, haven't used 2.4 myself.. but i would expect more or less problems with it15:14
Unksiyou can always try building it yourself if it doesnt work^15:14
mefisto__sebastianp: why will it kill your system?15:15
sebastianpi'll myke at least one mistake15:15
mefisto__sebastianp: try searching for a guide, preferably an ubuntu one. and if something goes wrong, you could ask in here about fixing things15:16
ibrarUnksi: Hmmm it gives error about initrd-tools15:16
ibrarUnksi: While installing 2.4 on 8.1015:16
Unksiwhich kind of error15:17
Unksitoo new?15:17
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ibrar>  kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.48); however:15:25
ibrar>   Package initrd-tools is not installed.15:25
ibrarUnksi: ?15:25
Unksiyou could try install that package^15:26
Unksiand hope it doesnt have too much dependencies15:26
mefisto__!info initrd-tools15:27
ubottuPackage initrd-tools does not exist in intrepid15:27
BluesKaj!initramfs-tools15:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about initramfs-tools15:28
mefisto__!info initramfs-tools15:29
ubottuinitramfs-tools (source: initramfs-tools): tools for generating an initramfs. In component main, is important. Version 0.92bubuntu16 (intrepid), package size 77 kB, installed size 404 kB15:29
ibrar> Package initrd-tools is not available, but is referred to by another package.15:29
ibrar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or15:29
ibrar> is only available from another source15:29
ibrar> E: Package initrd-tools has no installation candidate15:29
ibrarUnksi: ?15:29
BluesKajibrar , http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/initrd-tools-or-initramfs-tools-469879/15:30
Unksiibrar: the package name has changed, if you wish to install the kernel from those packages you need to use the package from dapper as well15:32
ibrarBluesKaj: I don't think so its relevent15:32
ibrarUnksi: I think I have to change the repository to dapper too15:33
Unksiibrar: it might make it faster, but it makes it a lot easier to break something15:33
huanggpHill15:34
ibrarUnksi: Can you suggest any easy way to test somthing on 2.4.x15:34
ibrarUnksi: Its really sucks15:34
Unksiibrar: maybe if you can find a live cd with 2.4? dunno if theres any, though15:35
huanggpAll are English?Sorry,maye be I need to study Englis.15:35
ibrarUnksi: This will really help, let me find any live CD15:36
ibrarUnksi: But I am not hopefull15:37
Unksihuanggp: there is #ubuntu-cn for chinese15:37
mefisto__huanggp: what's your language?15:37
Unksiibrar: yea, it might be that theres none as its quite old :/15:38
ibrarUnksi: Actually I need a feature "iproute2 with equalize" which is dropped in 2.615:39
mefisto__ibrar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15:39
Unksiok, no idea about that^15:39
mefisto__http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/  even older15:40
kuaeraIs there a method of forcing a file to be unloaded from memory?15:42
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marie_blubbi installed samba and swat but where do I have to save the smb.conf as /usr/local/samba/lib doesnt exist (as it is mentioned in the documentation)15:46
powergoalI'm trying to add new widgets for kde4 through the add widgets interface.  I can download, but they fail to install with the error: Installation of /tmp/kde-<user>///99815-QuickUrl_1_2_1.plasmoid failed!15:47
powergoalInstallation of /tmp/kde-<user>/// failed!15:47
powergoalany ideas on how to fix this?15:47
jayhunoldmarie_blubb: Which docs ? Look at /etc/samba/smb.conf15:48
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marie_blubbthe documentation of oreilly tells me that after installing i have to make a new file that is called smb.conf15:51
jayhunoldwhich is located in /etc/samba/ in most distributions.15:52
marie_blubbcan I use the file in  /etc/samba/smb.conf to change the necessary details, looks more like a documentation to me15:56
EagleScreenHello people15:56
BluesKajmarie_blubb, just install samba giu , it's handier15:57
EagleScreenKDE4.2.2 is out!15:57
BluesKajerr gui15:57
EagleScreenupdates are available for 9.0415:57
kaddiand for 8.10?15:58
marie_blubbBluesKaj how do I install it (its not in adept) and how do I enter it?16:00
EagleScreenkaddi: for 8.10 check out the ppa repository16:01
EagleScreenmarie_blubb: looking for?16:01
kaddiEagleScreen just did an apt-get update (i somehow managed to read 4.3 instead of 4.2.2 :D )16:02
marie_blubbanything to manage samba (like gui) as swat doesnt show me the global options16:02
jayhunoldmarie_blubb: Well, it's just well documented.16:02
kaddithanks :)16:02
diego__vai tomar no cu geralllllllllllll16:03
issachola16:04
EagleScreenhola issac16:04
issacwow16:04
issac..16:04
marie_blubbjayhunold oh yes please, I found many docs but not really for beginners. it says alsways install samba, but not how...16:04
issachola eaglescreen16:04
EagleScreen!es | issac16:05
ubottuissac: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:05
issacoh right.!16:05
issacwhere is the english channels??16:06
EagleScreenthis is an English channel16:06
issacajjaj16:06
issacyes im sorry16:06
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: You'll want to install samba-client, possibly samba-doc, and samba-swat16:07
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: urpmi samba-client16:07
jhutchins_wkurpmi replaces aptitude.16:07
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: swat will show you advanced options if you ask, and will jump to the relevant portion of the documentation if you click on a help icon.16:08
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: I find it's very useful.16:08
issaccan yo say me where is the spanish chennel? please?16:08
jhutchins_wkWhoops!16:08
issaci very new in that, but, i like to belong to some one.16:08
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: I apologise, this is NOT the channel I thought it was, urpmi does NOT replace aptitude.16:09
kaddi!es |issac16:09
ubottuissac: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:09
issachi kaddi.!16:09
jhutchins_wkmarie_blubb: Not entirely sure of the package names either, but sure that swat will help you and will show global and advanced options if asked.16:09
EagleScreenissac type coomand /join kubuntu-es16:11
issacah ok thank you16:11
issaceagles!!16:12
issacare you here?16:13
issacno body home in the ubuntu.es16:13
EagleScreenissac16:13
fosco__ubuntu.es use to be down :-(16:14
EagleScreen#/join kubuntu-es16:14
atoom_#/join ubuntu-nl16:14
EagleScreenissac join to kubuntu-es16:15
kaddiissac klick on the following: #kubuntu-es16:16
issacthank you.. very much...!!!16:17
RurouniJoneskaddi - For future reference you can use ! plus the language to get an auto message16:22
RurouniJones!es16:23
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:23
RurouniJonesFor example16:23
* RurouniJones reads further up and realises all that was wasted typing16:23
atoom_cls16:24
EagleScreenKubuntu is a great GNU/Linux distribution16:28
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Legohello all, i just reinstalled kubuntu 8.10 and booted to the log in screen.. and after putting my password in kde4.1 splash freezes.. so i rebooted and tried failsafe session16:52
Legoand got this error16:52
Lego Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.16:52
Legocould anyone help me?16:53
Legoim now using my intel card.. since the radeon doesn't even want to get to the log in screen16:53
mefisto__!info urpmi16:53
ubottuPackage urpmi does not exist in intrepid16:53
kaddihi, i'm looking for an easy to use image editor.. I simply don't understand how gimp and the like work... I don't need anything fancy.. just some basic features would be great. :)16:55
Legokedit?16:55
StR|Sangreal!kedit?16:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kedit?16:55
StR|Sangreal!kedit16:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kedit16:55
mefisto__!info kolourpaint16:56
ubottukolourpaint (source: kdegraphics): Transitional package. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB16:56
Legodoes anyone have any ideas as to why i can't boot ?16:56
jhutchins_wkmefisto__: Wrong distro, I thought I was in a different channel (re:urpmi).16:56
StR|Sangrealno disk?16:56
Legothat to me?16:57
mefisto__jhutchins_wk: ok thanks. I was scratching my head about that16:57
LegoSangreal?16:57
StR|Sangrealsorry, have no clue16:58
Legolol, ok.. anyone ?16:58
kaddithx, this looks to be what i was looking for @ mefisto__16:58
Legoim willing to try anything at this point.16:58
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Sqyberhow can i install graphics card drivers to my kubuntu 9.04 beta17:00
mefisto__Sqyber: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 support17:00
kaddiLego have you tried login in without the gui?17:00
StR|Sangrealdoes your grub load?17:01
Legoyes I can ctrl alt f1 and log into a terminal17:01
StR|Sangrealand your xserver doesnt start?17:02
kaddiwhat happens if you try to start the xserver?17:02
kaddiafter logging in17:02
Legook what happens is i restart the computer kdm boots i put in my password. and kde4.1 splash freezes, when i try a failsafe log in i get this error  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.17:03
mefisto__Lego: so it boots ok. X starts ok. login fails. try disabling compositing?17:03
kaddihttp://forum.kde.org/-solved-xsession-unable-launch-failsafe-x-session-x-terminal-emulator-t-36445.html Lego this might be a possible answer17:04
Legothats a bit more advance then i can understand.. this is a clean install of 8.1017:05
Legodoes that matter?17:06
LegoI haven't logged in as anyone yet?17:06
Legoand only tried my created user at the kdm login .. haven't root logged in yet17:07
mefisto__Lego: have you logged in at terminal (alt-ctrl-F1) ?17:07
Legoyes17:07
Legoas created user Lego17:07
Legoafter kde splash froze on me twice and failsafe crashed with that error17:08
mefisto__Lego: nano .kde/share/config/kwinrc  and look for a [compositing] section in that file17:08
Legook give me one sec have to reboot.17:09
mefisto__Lego: change it to Enabled=false17:09
Legoi know that kde3.5 and compiz-fusion ran fine on bsd 7.1-release17:09
Legonothing about composite in that file.. $Version headding, Desktops , Plugins windows..17:11
LegoPlugins has Kwind4_effect_coverswitchEnabled= True,17:12
Legonothing about composite17:12
mefisto__Lego: no [compositing] section at all?17:12
Legonope17:12
Legoversion, desktops, plugins, windows17:13
Legoshould i add one ?17:13
Legoand disable it anyway?17:13
mefisto__Lego: ok try adding it. [Compositing]  and next line underneath that  Enabled=false17:14
Legoi've been having very bad luck with kubuntu.. 8.10.... it wouldnt' even load kdm on my radeon card17:14
Legook added that.. reboot?17:15
mefisto__Lego: ok17:15
Legokdm put password in....Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; abortingl17:17
mefisto__Lego: try normal session, not failsafe17:18
Legotried kde again.. splash froze after hdd loaded .. again..17:18
Legoit starts to load a yellow and white image with a bluish image biside it and freezes17:18
Legobeside*17:19
Legoit has to be kde 4.1 ... has to.. because i ran bsd with my intel and radeon card. and on the intel i could run kde3.5 and compiz... radeon won't run compiz..17:20
Legono 3d support..17:20
Legook im rebooted.. and sitting at the kdm login..17:20
Legoand the radeon card won't even get me to the kdm login when i installed kubuntu last night...17:21
mefisto__Lego: you could try using the vesa driver and see if you can login to kde17:21
Legoyesterday..17:21
rosco_ywhat does it mean when you try to /j a channel and you get this msg:  [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel17:22
Legowhats the location of the xorg.conf?17:22
Legoto change it?17:22
Legonano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?17:22
rosco_yit's in /usr/X1117:22
rosco_yI think17:22
DragnslcrYou can use locate to find it17:23
rosco_yor not17:23
mefisto__Lego: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where it is17:23
LegoLOL theres basically nothing in the file so im just going to add the Driver "vesa" line under video device17:23
kaddirosco_y I don't know for sure, but I would think, that you have to identify yourself using /msg nickserv identify and your password17:23
Dragnslcrrosco_y- you have to register/identify with nickserv to join some channels17:24
DragnslcrIt helps prevent join/part spam17:24
mefisto__Lego: in the device section, put in a line    Driver "vesa"17:24
Legoyea did that.. rebooting .17:24
Legoouch.. the spot where the splash freezes.. my screen when completely white :S17:25
Legoand just came back black with just my mouse visible17:26
Legonothing else is loading.. LOL should i try coping my bsd xorg.conf over...17:27
mefisto__Lego: if you alt-F2 do you see a small dialog window appear?17:27
Legooh give me a sec. to try that17:27
Legowaiting for the black screen to come back17:29
Legono alt f2 does nothing17:29
Legoits just a black screen with my mouse17:30
mefisto__Lego: in terminal, try   killall plasma17:30
Legook did that17:31
Legoi did a ctrl alt f1 from the black screen, logged in and killall plasma17:31
Legonow what?17:31
mefisto__Lego: ok now I can't remember how to run something in an X display from a terminal. something like dispay=:0 plasma   does anyone know?17:32
Legoi don't have a plasma monitor does that matter?17:33
mefisto__Lego: no, plasma is a part of kde 417:33
Legocould i try Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?17:33
Legooh.. ok17:33
mefisto__Lego: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg17:34
mefisto__Lego: that will make a new xorg.conf17:34
Legook done17:35
mefisto__Lego: and you could also try removing or renaming .kde directory in your home dir so the whole directory is recreated when you login to KDE17:35
Legook lets do that.17:36
Legocp .kde / .kdebackup ?17:36
Legomv .kde  .kdebackup17:36
mefisto__mv17:36
Legohehe were is my home directory ...17:37
mefisto__cd [enter] should get you back there17:37
Dragnslcrcd ~17:37
Legook, then ls lists, Desktop, Documents, Music, Pictures, Public, Templates, Videos17:38
Legocd Desktop17:38
Lego?17:38
mefisto__Lego: it's a hidden dir (starts with a . )17:38
mefisto__ls -a17:39
Legoah ok17:39
Legothere we god :)17:39
Legook done17:39
Legogod = good :P17:39
Legoso startx now?17:39
kaddioh i thought "god=go" :D17:40
White_Pelicanis kde 4.2.2 availabel for Jaunty, beta 1?17:40
bryanhey17:40
LegoLOL yea that was the one :P17:40
Legoso startx now? or kdm17:40
mefisto__White_Pelican: yes. #ubuntu+1 for jaunty help17:41
White_Pelicanty17:41
White_PelicanI just saw the subject :)17:41
White_Pelicanproof not everyonereads it first ;)17:41
Legook well im rebooting well see what happens.17:43
Legohmm...weird.. um.. i thought the splash froze again.. but i double clicked it...17:44
Legoand well it booted to the desktop :S17:45
mefisto__ok great17:45
Legobut i can't click anything17:45
mefisto__alt-F2 ?17:45
Legonothing17:45
Legoi can't use the terminal the post it note... menu, tray items nothing17:46
mefisto__any disk activity? it may be still creating config files in the new .kde folder17:46
Legonot that i can see17:47
Legono flashing in the front of my tower17:47
Legocan't even ctrl alt f1-f617:47
mefisto__Lego: can you ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X ?17:48
henry_BRthere is a Identi.ca/twitter/jaiku /@kubuntu to report bugs?17:48
Legonope17:48
Legoeven ctrl alt del won't kick me out17:48
Legoso its pretty froze.. mouse moves though :P17:49
Legoso im rebooting..17:50
Legosplash froze again...17:51
Legosame place17:51
Legolol and double clicking it this time won't work...17:51
mefisto__Lego: ctrl-alt-PrtScr R E I S U B    <-- to reboot when all else fails. that unmounts and remounts everything and avoids filesystem errors17:51
mefisto__Lego: but sometimes that doesn't work either17:51
Legoyea ctrl alt printscreen didn't work17:52
Legobut we hopefully can continue this later cuz i have to get ready for a doctors appointment..17:52
mefisto__Lego: those 3 keys, plus R, then E, then I, etc17:52
mefisto__Lego: ok later17:52
Legohehe i don't have that many fingers :P17:52
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satishasssination17:57
Salsh5000hi17:59
alistronehi all men!18:00
alistroneor girls..18:00
alistronelol18:00
kaddi!hi |alistrone18:01
ubottualistrone: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:01
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Guest29234imtrying toi install vmware server and i got the error "18:03
Guest29234None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your18:03
Guest29234running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for18:03
Guest29234your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]^[[3~yes18:03
alistronehi18:03
alistronei will have on my pc also the kbuntu18:03
alistronenow im using win xp18:04
kaddialistrone what makes you want to switch? :)18:05
alistronethe words that i heard..18:05
Guest29234somebody help me with vmware server18:05
amgarchingcannot find the "frontline" app in Ubuntu repositories. This was a simple interface to "autotrace" bitmap-to-vector conversion tool. Any idea?18:05
kaddialistrone have you tried it yet? :) Do you have a Live-CD? :)18:06
EagleScreenI would like to can read ext4 from Windows18:06
Guest29234when i install vmware server i got the error Unable to build the vmmon module18:08
alistronekaddi: no i didnt18:09
EagleScreenamgarching: frontline does not exist in Ubuntu repository, have you ever see it before?18:10
EagleScreen!frontline18:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about frontline18:11
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mefisto__!info potrace18:18
ubottupotrace (source: potrace): utility to transform bitmaps into vector graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-1 (intrepid), package size 91 kB, installed size 232 kB18:18
mefisto__amgarching: maybe try potrace? http://potracegui.sourceforge.net/18:19
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mefisto__!info potracegui18:20
ubottupotracegui (source: potracegui): KDE frontend for potrace. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2.3ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 105 kB, installed size 428 kB18:20
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amgarchingEagleScreen, mefisto__: used frontline in SuSE, I see Inkspace can do "potrace"ing but that is only B&W18:21
semistud2354_anyone know why my fedora 9 64 and jaunty 64 both hard freeze....like to the point where i have to hold the shutdown button18:23
semistud2354_im betting on it being the 64 bit part...but im not too sure how to approach this18:23
kaddisemistud2354_ first guess is always a heat problem :D18:25
semistud2354_nah...cant be18:25
semistud2354_im using i386 as we speak18:25
semistud2354_and it runs great18:26
semistud2354_anyone know how to fix18:27
semistud2354_a 64 bit freeze18:28
fosco__take a look at temps18:28
semistud2354_me?18:28
fosco__no matter if 32bits works ok or not18:28
fosco__yes18:28
semistud2354_how do i check temp18:28
fosco__lm-sensors18:28
semistud2354_is this a program18:29
fosco__it is a package18:29
semistud2354_o18:29
semistud2354_ok18:30
semistud2354_goti t18:30
semistud2354_it18:30
semistud2354_now what18:30
semistud2354_?18:30
fosco__sudo sensors-detect to configure18:30
fosco__and sensors to see temps18:30
jonathan__hello!18:31
kaddi!hi|jonathan__18:31
ubottujonathan__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:31
jonathan__i currently try to compile libgpod to support my ipod 4g in gtkpod.18:31
jonathan__i downloaded the svn and so on, and ran the autogen.sh18:31
semistud2354_i just hit yes on everything18:32
semistud2354_which is probably bad18:32
jonathan__i installed all dependencies right now, except for one optional dependency: gdk-pixbuf18:32
semistud2354_but...i want to get down to what the problem is18:32
semistud2354_lol18:32
semistud2354_now what18:32
fosco__yes to all is ok18:32
nathan7=p18:32
fosco__reboot or sudo modprobe the modules it told you18:33
fosco__after that type sensors to check temps18:33
jonathan__or let me say i installed it, but it doesn't affect the config process: It still tells me that artwork support is disabled.18:33
jonathan__fosco__: Why should i reboot my pc?18:33
fosco__jonathan__, sorry, i'm speaking to semistud2354_18:33
semistud2354_core0 temp18:33
semistud2354_k8temp-pci-00c318:33
semistud2354_Adapter: PCI adapter18:33
semistud2354_Core0 Temp:  +50.0°C18:33
nathan7GAH18:34
semistud2354_thats what i got?18:34
nathan7Stop highlighting me!18:34
nathan7=p18:34
fosco__semistud2354_, did you load the modules?18:34
jonathan__hm no ideas about the gdk-pixbuf problem?18:34
semistud2354_i think i did18:35
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fosco__so, that's all18:36
fosco__run the 64bits distro and keep an eye on sensors18:36
semistud2354_would anything be in the log...just before it crashes?18:36
fosco__maybe18:37
semistud2354_also its not able to suspend18:38
semistud2354_man...what are they doing to this kernel18:38
semistud2354_it freezes...it cant suspend...18:38
semistud2354_who's to blame ubuntu or the kernel team18:40
semistud2354_lol18:41
josh-lhow do i make an application always open on desktop2 ?18:43
|PaperTiger|Is there a way I can back up my system configuration?18:45
fosco__|PaperTiger|, exactly what18:45
|PaperTiger|fosco__, like the whole config. Grahpics setups, custom set controls18:46
fosco__make full backup18:46
|PaperTiger|Simplest way?18:46
|PaperTiger|What would you suggest I use to do that?18:46
fosco__many many ways18:47
fosco__try sbackup18:48
semistud2354_2 questions...is it possible to get a deb of the newest kernel.... and 2....does compiling your own kernel make you system run better?18:51
semistud2354_your*18:51
nathan7semistud2354_: No * 218:52
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semistud2354_so is that a yes or no?18:53
trappistcompiling your own kernel *with more appropriate options for your system than the defaults* *might* make it run better18:53
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semistud2354_ok...ive used linux for 2 / 3 years now18:54
semistud2354_but never did any kernel compileing18:54
semistud2354_is it easy?18:54
trappistsemistud2354_: it might be worth messing with for educational purposes, but after 10 years and a zillion kernel compiles, I'm perfectly happy to use the distro kernel18:55
semistud2354_i was reading that theres like hundreds of options18:55
semistud2354_that you have to decide wether you want on or not18:56
trappistI'm pretty sure it's actually in the thousands18:56
semistud2354_O MAN!18:56
susbwoysemistud2354_:  but it's ok, they are grouped! so it's easy to turn things like USB off18:57
trappistyou'll learn a lot about your system, and linux, and computers in general, going through each option and doing the legwork to figure out what you want, but it'll take a very long time, and when you're done even if you do it right and end up with a usable kernel, you almost certainly will not see a noticeable improvement18:57
semistud2354_dont they just offer .debs...18:57
semistud2354_lol of newer kernels18:57
trappistnewer than what?18:58
kendrickso why so many KDE package updates all of a sudden? :)18:59
trappistthey usually happen in clumps due to dependencies - you update this library, and this pile of apps have a dependency on this lib, so they all have to be rebuilt19:00
semistud2354_like...the newest kernel is like 2.6.2919:00
semistud2354_is there a deb for that19:00
kendricktrappist: was that directed to me? :)19:00
trappistkendrick: yeah19:01
kendrickheh ok19:01
kendrickso when you say "you update this lib", you mean "you"=="kubuntu devs"19:01
trappistsemistud2354_: that comes from kernel.org, which no, does not produce debs at all, ever.  ubuntu kernel packages are *based* on those, but as far as I know there's nobody making fresh debs of kernel.org kernels when they come out.19:01
trappistkendrick: right19:01
kendrickok19:02
semistud2354_WHAT ABOUT...is there a way to UPGRADE...an existing kernel19:02
kendricki was just surprised to see _116MB_ of updates... and no new official [k]ubuntu release yet ;)19:02
semistud2354_2.6.24-23 is what i have now...19:03
trappistsemistud2354_: you basically have two options.  start down the long road of learning how to deal with getting/patching/configuring/building your own kernels, or the much shorter road of learning to live with the kernel your distro gives you :)19:03
semistud2354_but i wonder if it's possible to update that to the newest 2.6.2919:03
kendrickbackports FTW!19:03
semistud2354_crap19:03
trappistsemistud2354_: why19:04
semistud2354_cuz the config is already created19:04
semistud2354_unless i print it out and use that as a guide19:04
semistud2354_to compile a new kernel19:04
trappistwhy do you want a new kernel19:04
semistud2354_i dunno...perhaps it will run better19:05
trappistnot likely19:05
semistud2354_i was told i could use this command linux-image-68619:05
trappistit might be worth the effort for what you'll learn, but not for the effect it'll have on your system19:05
semistud2354_which i used...19:05
semistud2354_and it updated something19:05
semistud2354_not sure it helped any19:06
|PaperTiger|fosco__, what is sbackup like?19:06
* kendrick wanders off to enjoy whatever new kde junk is being pulled down :)19:06
kendrickcya19:07
ActionParsniphey all19:14
ActionParsnipis there any themes for ktorrent web interface anywhere19:14
ActionParsnipor how to edit the current ones19:15
david_what is the preferred gui disk partitioning tool for kubuntu?19:17
mefisto__gparted or qtparted19:17
kaddigparted I would think19:17
david_it looks like qtparted isn't available in jaunty...I assumed gparted was the best, but didn't know if there was a qt/kde based tool19:19
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fosco__|PaperTiger|, http://maketecheasier.com/backing-up-data-in-ubuntu-using-sbackup/2007/12/0819:25
fosco__semistud2354_, IMO compiling the kernel is only usefull for learning purposes, no speedup at all19:26
semistud2354_im not looking for speed19:27
fosco__ok19:27
semistud2354_my jaunty distro freezes on me...19:27
semistud2354_and im betting on it being the kernel19:27
fosco__then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile19:27
semistud2354_so i was asking if i compiled it if there is a good chance that it wouldnt freeze anymore19:28
douglettarrrrrrrrrrrgh19:29
douglettso i have kubuntu 8.04.219:29
douglettand despite visited several sites and trying several different things I cannot get dvd playback to work for the life of me19:30
privatohello19:31
kaddi!hi |privato19:32
ubottuprivato: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:32
|PaperTiger|fosco__, thanks19:32
douglettany suggestions?19:33
fosco__douglett, take a look on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats19:34
|PaperTiger|fosco__, what mediums can you back up to?19:34
dougletti did, before i said anything19:34
fosco__|PaperTiger|, anything you can mount19:34
douglettand i tried those commands and still had no luck19:34
|PaperTiger|fosco__, okay. Thanks19:34
privatoCIAO19:35
kaddidouglett what have you tried so far? did you consult those links:19:36
kaddi!codecs19:36
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:36
puddlehi all19:37
kaddihave you added the medibuntu repository to your sources.list and installed libdvdcss2?19:37
kaddihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu19:38
douglett!codecs19:39
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:39
douglettyes19:39
semistud2354_!hi19:39
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:39
douglettshall i paste the 3 different sites i've visited and tried the commands for?19:39
semistud2354_!kernel19:40
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages19:40
douglettthe latest being the restrictedformats site mentioned in ur FAQ page19:40
semistud2354_I THINK I FOUND SOMETHING...19:41
semistud2354_do the newer kernels have smb enabled19:41
semistud2354_it says that smb is for multi cores19:41
semistud2354_i dont have that...i just have a single 64 bit core19:41
semistud2354_perhaps...that is why it is freezing19:41
semistud2354_could that be?19:42
fosco__smb? this is samba19:42
douglettanyone? i've done these steps and everytime i go to open kaffeine i get the same message asking me to run a script i've run a thousand times before19:42
semistud2354_oop19:42
semistud2354_i ment smp19:42
fosco__smp is used when available, and not used on single cpu machines19:43
fosco__do not care about that19:43
StR|Sangreal!jaunty19:43
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 -  Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April 23rd - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.19:43
kaddidouglett: the medibuntu advice was also for you. But I fear if you've tried this, I don't know whats wrong. that was what worked for me19:46
Guest29234im trying to run vmware from firefox i typed http:\\127.0.0.1:8333 i got the error 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC19:47
Guest29234and some times Data Transfer Interrupted19:48
Guest29234how to solve this19:48
douglettcould it have anything to do with using the generic nvidia drivers?19:48
RythanGuest29234 Try https://19:49
dougletthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/143008/19:50
douglettthat's what i get when i use:    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get updat19:51
douglette19:51
g01phi19:58
kaddidouglett: your paste is somehow broken, but it seems, that the repository should be installed19:58
kaddidouglett: what is the output on apt-cache policy libdvdcss219:58
dougletthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/143012/19:59
dougletthang on19:59
dougletthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/143013/20:00
Guest29234it use remote console connection 902 when i try http with 8222 or https with 8333 i got Failed to Connect itried  to change the remote console connection  to 8333 i got the error that i told before20:01
Guest29234Rythan: it use remote console connection 902 when i try http with 8222 or https with 8333 i got Failed to Connect itried  to change the remote console connection  to 8333 i got the error that i told before20:02
kaddidouglett the only other thing I could think about is that you are missing the codecs, but I assume you installed them as well... :/ I'm sorry I can't really be of more help20:05
douglettwould it help to know i'm using the 64 bit version?20:06
kaddiyeah it means, I'm in way over my head ;)20:07
kaddiI suppose you would have to install the w64codecs and not w32 in that case...20:08
|PaperTiger|Does anyone here use the program Picaxe?20:09
Guest29234now the remote console connection port is 902 the defoult value when i try https://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8222 or https://127.0.0.1:8222  i got faild to connect but when i type https://127.0.0.1:902 i got 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC20:09
idinvalidg20:09
douglettkaddi: i did this20:10
Guest29234 now the remote console connection port is 902 the defoult value when i try https://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8222 or https://127.0.0.1:8222  i got faild to connect but when i type https://127.0.0.1:902 i got 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC20:16
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kaddidouglett: is libdvdread3 installed on your system? (Do apt-cache policy libdvdread3 to see which version is installed)20:17
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anga78kubuntu20:20
kaddidouglett: Have you tried opening the DVD with dolphin and starting the file from dolphin?20:20
|PaperTiger|Doesn't anyone know how well the program Picaxe works on Linux?20:21
douglettkaddi: yes, Installed: 0.9.7-8ubuntu120:21
douglettand no, not from dolphin20:22
kaddidouglett: try, I've read several reports, that there is a problem with kaffeine for starting dvds, but that it works fine, when the film is started via dolphin20:23
dougletthmm20:23
kaddimaybe we got lucky and this is the solution :D20:23
douglettthat's interesting20:23
douglettit sorta worked20:23
douglettwhich video file am i suppose to be openning?20:24
dougletti right clicked on the dvd in dolphin and went to open with kaffeine20:24
douglettand it opened kaffeine and showed a bunch of madness20:24
jamesjedimastervob files are for dvd's20:24
douglettone of which was the fbi warning20:24
alexander_бля, где я?20:25
kaddidouglett: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094316 i got that from this thread: sometimes kaffeine seems to look in the wrong place for the dvd and throws this kind of errors20:25
douglettkaddi: this article looks very promising20:26
Legomefisto__, are you still around20:27
kaddiwhat they said is that you have to check your dvd-load point: kaffeine ->settings->xine parameters ->media and check that the device listed as dvd.device corresponds to the place where your dvd actually is :)20:28
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LjL!ru | alexander_20:28
ubottualexander_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:28
dougletttouche20:29
Legoim ready to continue trouble shooting. just got home from the doctors20:29
douglettHAHA20:30
douglettbloody hell it seems to be working20:30
kaddigreat :)20:30
douglettwell that's really depressing20:31
kaddiwhy?20:31
douglett3.5 hours wasted for a simple parameter20:31
jonathan__hello! can anyone tell me how to connect two mp4 videos to one? i didn't find anything with google...20:31
kaddino, not wasted.. i'm sure you learned a LOT about restricted formats, repositories and all kind of linux stuff alon the way ;) ( I sure did ;) )20:32
jamesjedimasterjonathan__: kdenlive20:32
Legohehe would you like to help me now kaddi?20:32
Legomefisto__ doesn't seem to be around right now20:33
jonathan__hm i can't export to mp4 format in kdenlive20:33
kaddiLego I think I already tried to help you and failed miserably... :D I was looking forward to learning something by wathcing what mefisto__ would have done :D20:33
douglettyes, i was cursing and frolicking all along that fun 3+ hour adventure20:34
Legoah i see :P20:34
dougletti think i'll go hit myself in the head with a hammer now20:34
jamesjedimasterjonathan__: perhaps you have to convert them to mpeg before with mobile media converter20:34
douglettthanks for the help!20:34
kaddidouglett you're welcome :)20:35
jonathan__hm i used ffmpeg to convert them to mp4. it's a film split in two parts, both are mp4 now. i just want to append video 2 at video 1. no convertig.20:35
Legowere you helping me before or after the re-install and changeover to the intel card?20:35
kaddiwoah... I asked you some question about 2 hours ago until you went for the doctors20:36
Legoi've talked to so many people on so many channels the last few days i forgot who i've spoken to but i remembered to highlight mefisto name on the right column :P20:36
jamesjedimasterthat's what i do to edit 3gp videos, perhaps you may find one-step solution20:36
kaddiis this a completely fresh install? Have you logged in successfully once on that account?20:36
Legoso i have to appologize :(20:36
Legoin kdm no20:36
Legoi can ctrl alt f1 and use the system fine so far, except the wifi issues, but kdm boots but kde splash screen freezes and go no further20:38
Legogoes*20:38
douglettkaddi: how could a fellow programmer go about making the code suggestion to fix this for the 64bit ubuntu users of the world?20:39
kaddiI was thinking you might try to create a new account and see if you could log into that one.20:39
Legohmm.. how do i do that ?20:39
Legoi need to be in a terminal, correct20:39
camillai'm trying to install a printer, canon pixma mp130 and i need to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list but it does not work. ideas, anyone?20:39
kaddiyou log into your account in terminal, yes20:39
janviHello. How is it about nvidia geforce 8200 support in Jaunty?20:39
kaddiand type sudo adduser <username>20:39
Legook done20:40
kaddilog out and see if you can log on with the new user20:40
Legoit didn't ask me to put a password for that user though20:41
kaddiit didn't? odd, it should have20:41
Legosudo adduser Joe, then it asked for the sudo password then spit out some information20:42
Legoi'll try again20:42
kaddidouglett: i don't really know. launchpad.net ist the bugtracker for ubuntu bugs, maybe you'll find some info there20:42
kaddi(you could probably always see if a bugreport had been filed for that problem and register and add the solution to it)20:43
kaddiLego: what was the last line, that was spit out?20:43
Legoadduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM] configuration variable.  and it has more info20:43
LegoUse the '--force-badname' option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX or NAME_REGEX_SYSTEM.20:44
LegoHA! had to remove the J for a j20:44
kaddi:)20:45
Legook seems good20:45
dougletti'd hate for some poor bastard to just go through what i went through20:45
Legook i logged in a joe20:45
dougletti'll look into this20:45
kaddiwould be great :)20:45
bittinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090402  if somone cares20:45
kaddiLego: does it work?20:46
Legoctrl/alt/f7 ctrl/alt/backspace selected joe, password, froze in the same spot20:46
kaddi:(20:47
Legoright after the hdd loads on the splash right before the next (yellow and white item) fully appears20:47
kaddiwell i suppose that means, the problem isn't with your userprofile :/20:47
Legoyup20:47
Legomind you what are the next two items to load after the hdd?20:48
jussi01does anyone know a qt equivalent to gmpc?20:49
janviIs there issues related to Jaunty and nvidia geforce 8200?20:49
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Legostill there kaddi?20:51
kaddiLego: im still there, but don't really know what else to suggest20:52
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kaddiLego: i don't even know what would be loaded after the disk20:53
Legodo you know what the next to items are ?20:53
Legowhat do the pictures look like what you boot kde?20:53
slow-motionhi20:53
kaddilego: i think it should be the windowmanager20:53
kaddilego: followed by the displaymanager20:54
Legowhich is why it crashes... cuz the card can't handle kde4.1 maybe..20:54
Legoi wish we could get the wifi running.. and istall something small like twm and see if atleast that works..20:55
kaddiLego: have you tried starting kwin/kdm/x from the terminal, to see which one crashes?21:02
Legowhat do you mean?21:04
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Legoyou mean like type kwin from a terminal?21:05
kaddiyeah, something like that... i'm looking for the proper commands right now, but I'm not sure i found them21:05
Legook21:05
Legobut i would need to stop my computer from automatically boot kdm when it boots first..21:06
kaddidon't do that. :p I'm still trying to figure out how to get it restarted without booting :p21:06
Legowell it when freezes nothing works bu the reset button :)21:08
Legowell when it * geez i can't type today21:08
Legobut*21:08
kaddiwhat happened when you typed startx from a terminal? (you did do that earlier on, didn't you=21:10
kaddi?)21:10
Legoyes. Fatal Server error: Server is already active for display ) .. if this erver is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X)-lock and start again. ... . xinit: Server error.21:11
Legobut thats because i use ctrl alt f1 to get to the terminal from kdm21:11
Legodisplay 021:12
Lego.X0 ... geezus..21:13
Legoits gotta be xorg 7.4 and kde4.1... nothing else could explain it.. because isn't kdm is 3.5's kdm21:18
kaddilego: i'm sorry i really don't have a clue what could be the problem and where to look for a solution21:19
Legome either :P21:19
Legowell maybe I'll wait for mefisto__ see what else he can come up with.. and I'21:20
LegoI'll download 8.04 tonight21:20
Legolike i said i could get xorg 7.4 installed properly on bsd either, it wouldn't install the xorg 7.4 drivers.. they were marked as skip, which could be the case here were it just want the 7.3 drivers..21:21
Legoand after forcing them.. x crashed21:22
Legoover and over21:22
Legolol forget it i just started the 8.04 download :P21:23
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Legoi see.... well nice to see your an artist.21:24
Idhanis there any download manager for kubuntu?21:33
p_quarlesIdhan: kget21:34
Guest29234anyone could help me with vmware]21:36
Idhanp_quarles: kget speed up the downloads by multiple instances for a single file?21:41
noaXessi'm searching for a task/time/cost management software... tried gantproject, kplato, ktimetracker, taskjuggler... but no of them fit's what i need..21:43
noaXessany idea about other solutions?21:43
x_linkHi21:44
thebeHi21:44
thebehow to install tar.Z file21:44
x_linkWhat's the shortcut command to change desktop in KDE4?21:44
magicalדפים מישראל21:46
x_linkAnybody?21:46
larsemilwhats the shortkey to switch desktop?21:46
jhutchins_wknoaXess: karm?21:48
jhutchins_wklarsemil: from what to what?21:48
noaXess!info karm21:48
ubottuPackage karm does not exist in intrepid21:48
thebecould you tell me how to install tar.z file21:49
noaXessjhutchins_wk: doesnt exist in intrepid.. just KAlarm21:49
thebeI would be grateful to have your answer for me21:49
noaXess!info kalarm21:49
ubottukalarm (source: kdepim): KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2.1 (intrepid), package size 622 kB, installed size 2040 kB21:49
larsemiljhutchins_wk: like ctrl + alt + left in gnome21:49
noaXessnot what i need21:49
Dragnslcrthebe- however the place you downloaded it from tells you to21:49
thebeDrangslcr21:49
Dragnslcrthebe- tar.z is just a compressed archive of files21:50
thebethanks but I am new user and I have to know detail21:50
thebeis it the same way as we do for tar.gz??21:50
noaXesswhat i'm searching, a tool to log all my tasks in a given project: a name, description, date, time, duration, costs per hour... then i can make a report of this for my customer..21:50
DragnslcrYou can try opening it with Ark21:50
yoritomogood evening all21:51
DragnslcrI can't remember offhand which compression program uses .Z21:51
noaXessi also tried ktimetracker but there i can't have a description or costs per hour21:52
thebeokay21:52
thebeI am trying myself too in google21:52
thebebut it is quite easier if i get solution in chat21:52
elliottmsorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff21:53
larsemilno way to quickly change between desktops?21:54
thebeDragnslcr21:55
thebeI need your help!21:55
Unksilarsemil: i have it so that i just move the cursor over the edge of the monitor and that changes the desktop21:55
Unksitakes a little time to get used to but is a lot more convenient than hotkeys after a while21:55
thebeI am trying to download apache server but I don know which file I need to download from mirror site21:55
thebecould you tell me how to make it21:56
Dragnslcrlarsemil- you can set it to whatever you want in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts21:56
Unksithebe: why dont you just do sudo apt-get install apache2 ?21:56
Dragnslcrthebe- why not just install it from the repository?21:56
thebeI will try but I want to learn about mirror image21:57
DragnslcrMirror image?21:57
thebebecause there are  several folders and I don know where i get the required file21:58
Unksiwhich file?21:58
thebei mean mirror site21:58
thebeinstallation file21:58
DragnslcrApache is in the Ubuntu repository21:59
Unksijust open up adept and install it from there?21:59
larsemilany chance of setting the desktops to be on one row instead of two on two rows21:59
DragnslcrIt's a lot easier to install from there21:59
DragnslcrAnd the package manager will handle updates for you21:59
Unksilarsemil: the easiest way to change that is from the pager widget from your panel21:59
larsemilfound it21:59
larsemilthanks21:59
Unksiyoure welcome22:00
larsemillast question for now. as i get a message in kopete i click "show" and it does not show any message, nothing happens22:00
Dragnslcrlarsemil- what version of KDE?22:01
Unksilarsemil: if i remember right, thats a bug in 4.1.. someone correct me if im wrong :)22:01
DragnslcrAnd you should be able to click the animated Kopete icon to open new messages22:01
DragnslcrUnksi- yeah, that's why I asked what version22:01
larsemilDragnslcr: 4.222:01
thebeits okay now22:01
thebei did it from repository22:01
larsemilalso my bash auto completions is totaly fked22:02
thebethanks for all of you22:02
slow-motionn822:03
Edulixok22:11
Edulixhi!22:11
elliottmsorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff22:11
lexelliottm: are you in group audio?22:15
elliottmyep22:15
elliottmnothing in dmesg about it22:15
lamerabend22:15
elliottmand sound works in windows, so i know it's a software problem22:16
coreymanCan I get help installing ventrilo under wine.22:17
lextried to aplay something?22:17
coreyman?22:18
agaevening22:19
coreymanevening22:19
lexnight22:19
agayeah rex you're right... night here as well22:19
elliottmlex: I ran aplay with a song, it hasn't reaised any errors but I can't hear it22:19
lexelliottm: are you sure about your mixer?22:20
elliottmsure about what?22:20
lexrecheck that Master and PCM are turned on22:20
lexand the level are high enough22:21
elliottmwhen I put master ans PCM to the highest i hear static22:21
elliottmaplay is still running, and it either isn't playing or i can't hear it over the static22:23
lexelliottm: aplay doesn't know about mp3s and ogg22:23
lexif you hear static the problem should be solved )22:24
lextry playing anything with your favourite player22:24
thumpermorning people22:24
thumpermy /usr/bin/plasma is using 100% of one of my CPUs22:25
thumperwhat can I do about that?22:25
lexthumper: kquitapp plasma && plasma22:25
larsemilhow do i get my rss adress from konqueror to my plasmoid feed viewer?22:25
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lexelliottm: so how is it?22:26
thumperlex: ok, that worked, now any idea how to diagnose what went wrong?22:27
elliottmfine22:27
elliottmbut i didn't touch any of those sliders22:27
elliottmbeforehand, i mean22:27
elliottmit just stopped working22:27
elliottmor i guess i should say the volume just went down or something22:27
lexelliottm: that kind of things happen on upgrades22:28
lexthumper: no idea, you may want to report a bug or somethng22:28
agatried killing and restarting plasma thumper?22:28
thumperaga: just did, and that fixed it22:29
aga:) nice22:29
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josh-lsomething in kde is crashing and causing kde to lock up... is there a log somewhere i can check to find out what it is??22:30
agag'night22:38
draik_What is the interface on my wireless card?22:43
ActionParsnipjosh-l: dmesg will help you22:43
ActionParsnipdraik_: run  ifconfig22:43
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draik_ActionParsnip: There is no mention of an interface :(22:44
ActionParsnipdraik_: look for wifi0 or ath022:44
ActionParsnipdraik_: those are common22:44
draik_ActionParsnip: I have eth0 and lo, however, none of those seemed to work when I did "ifconfig down eth0"22:45
ActionParsnipdraik_: then the device isnt in there. try  sudo lshw -C network22:45
draik_lshw command not found22:46
ActionParsnipdraik_: ell ess aych double yew22:47
ActionParsnipdraik_: lshw22:47
draik_Uh huh... LOL22:47
ActionParsnipdoes that work?22:48
draik_-bash: lshw: command not found22:48
p_quarleshey, so does the character selector plasmoid only offer basic latin characters? or am I missing some obvious step for getting extended latin characters to show in there?22:48
demmonhow can i delete a folder with the konsole22:49
draik_demmon: rm -rf <foldername>22:49
demmonand the path right22:49
draik_Yep22:49
ActionParsnipdraik_: weird22:49
draik_Well, the path if you're not in the parent directory of the folder you will be removing22:50
p_quarlesbut be careful with rm; it's one of those commands that can kill you if you get the argument wrong22:50
ActionParsnipdraik_: sudo apt-get install lshw22:51
draik_ActionParsnip: The syntax of the command I was trying to run was incorrect (backwards). All good now22:53
ActionParsnipdraik_: nice22:54
draik_I saw the command "ifconfig down <interface>" and thought something wrong, but figured, 'what do I know?'... I guess I do know ;)22:55
ActionParsnipit will need sudo for ifdown22:56
jahrcopycatz pres. P.SIX vs GURU JOSH PROJECT - LET ME KNOW (INFINITY)22:57
draik_ActionParsnip: I'm root22:57
draik_ActionParsnip: well, su for the mean time22:57
ActionParsnipdraik_: su isnt advised, sudo -i is to be used22:59
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spezihey, i'm using hardy and dolphin is showing some weird numbers on my / and /home partitions since i grew them with gparted: it says that size is 57,6GB, however there are 180.4GB of 250GB used.. so about 70GB used. where are the missing 57GB gone?23:00
spezi*1723:00
demmonwhere are Software Sources on kubuntu?23:00
ActionParsnipspezi: is it formatted ext3?23:01
ActionParsnipdemmon: k menu -> system   i believe23:02
speziActionParsnip: yes, it is23:02
ActionParsnipspezi: then you have to sacrifice ~10% to the journal of ext323:02
ActionParsnipspezi: if you format it ext2 you'll get it back but you will not get the benefits of the journal23:04
speziActionParsnip: ah yeah, forgot about that... :/23:06
demmoncan any body tell me how to mount a cd23:08
demmoniso that is23:08
rickestdemmon: in KDE it should happen automatically23:08
Tm_T!iso23:08
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.23:08
rickestdemmon: oh, mount -o loop file.iso23:09
rickestdemmon: oh, mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/somewhere23:09
Tm_Trickest: + sudo typically23:09
victimhi, how do I get kde 4.2.2 on Intrepid?23:14
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speziso, does the ext3 journal have a quite fixed size or does it depend on the space used on the partition?23:19
Tm_Tlatter23:19
Tm_Ttypically atleast23:19
Legomefisto you around yet?23:35
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draik_ActionParsnip: Sorry, focused on the laptop. Yeah, I meant sudo -i. su was in reference to the account (Super User)23:50
ActionParsnipdraik_: good lad23:51
kaddican anyone name me a widget which would be similar to the taskmanager, showing me all started applications and the amoiunt of cpu & ram the use?23:52
xavier_ola23:55
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