[00:06] <picketfence> Hey all. I forget how to get the Public Key from http://ubuntu.cafuego.net
[00:08] <picketfence> I know it's a wget command, but I can't remember all there is to it.
[00:10] <BluesKaj> picketfence , copy and paste the "deb" lines , in upper right to your sources.list and do sudo apt-get update
[00:13] <picketfence> Am I correct in thinking that Kubuntu 8.10 running KDE 4.1 is Intrepid?
[00:16] <SteBo> picketfence: yes
[00:17] <picketfence> Ok, now where is the sources.list? I thought it was in /etc
[00:18] <SteBo> picketfence: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:18] <picketfence> Ah, right. I'll get this eventually.  :-)
[00:27] <SteBo> :-) cu, I have to go to bed
[00:46] <sithlord48> hey everyone , does any one know why k3b will not burn my junty iso to a blank dvd ?
[00:48] <bunnykinx> hello guys
[00:49] <picketfence> Ok, I don't mean to complain, but I have the required lines in my sources.list, but apt-get update still says it cannot find the GPG it needs.
[00:49] <picketfence> And of all things, it suggests that I run apt-get update to fix the problem. ???
[00:50] <bunnykinx> has anyone here managed to get kubuntu 9.04 onto a liveusb yet?
[00:51] <picketfence> I'll be back.
[00:56] <bunnykinx> is there anyone here that can point me in the right direction to the source for kubuntu 9.04
[01:02] <leonet> msg/ hola
[01:03] <bunnykinx> ?
[01:03] <leonet> alguien que hable español
[01:03] <Sir-Gon> #kubuntu-es ?
[01:03] <Sir-Gon> :B
[01:04] <leonet> mil gracias
[01:24] <bunnykinx> guys... anyone else having problems streaming shoutcast stations on amarok
[01:30] <amelie> hi
[01:31] <amelie> i know i asked this question several times; but i'm still getting the same problem
[01:31] <amelie> i have a intel 64 pc with kubuntu 8.10
[01:32] <amelie> i'd downloaded the flashplayer and installed it
[01:32] <amelie> but, for a strange reason it stop working
[01:32] <amelie> how do i make it work?
[01:34] <josh-l> is there anything bad about setting up prelink?
[01:51] <sithlord48> jockey does nothing when i try to activate my ati driver <- jaunty amd64
[02:07] <javier> buenas noches
[02:08] <javier> alguien con experiencia con la paca de cideo via chrome 9
[02:10] <cuznt> !es
[02:11] <javier> good night
[02:12] <javier> something with experience in video chrome 9 igp from via?
[02:12] <javier> i have a notebook bangho from argentina and i have serious problem with installation video
[02:13] <javier> sorry about my bad english
[02:16] <Lego_Dan> someone please.  I still can't get kubuntu to boot and would just like some help getting back to bsd.. i know i installed kubuntu over my xp partition.. so how to i get back to my bsd partition
[02:16] <Lego_Dan> grub doesn't give me any boot options and just keeps booting kubuntu which just keeps doing the same stupid thing... and not booting.
[02:17] <javier> fixmbr desde el cd de xp
[02:18] <javier> y volves a arrancar el xp
[02:18] <Lego_Dan> it goes to a black screen with a white outlined x in the bottom middle of my screen and a _ flickering in the top left
[02:19] <Lego_Dan> javier, I don't know what you mean.. i dont' know how to use kunbutu.. today was my first day trying to install it and it hasn't been good..
[02:19] <javier> lego_dan du you speack spanish?
[02:19] <Lego_Dan> no
[02:20] <javier> ok my english its very bad jajajajaj ok
[02:20] <Lego_Dan> ok. thats fine, i will be patient with you if you can with me :)
[02:20] <javier> tell me again
[02:20] <javier> and im use dictionari
[02:21] <Lego_Dan> I ran dual boot xp and FreeBSD, and installed kubuntu over xp and it changed the name of the partition, but I can't get Kubuntu to boot, and GRUB won't let me or even show me my BSD partition.. so basically Im screwed... can't boot either os.
[02:22] <Lego_Dan> i can get to a command prompt in kubuntu but thats it if i let it try and boot kde it crashes every time
[02:23] <Lego_Dan> and I really either want to get Kubuntu working or get back to bsd :)
[02:23] <Lego_Dan> \:(
[02:24] <javier> The live does CD of kubuntu you start(extract) and works correctomente?
[02:25] <Lego_Dan> Im confused. I used the 8.10 install cd
[02:26] <Lego_Dan> it installed fine.. but the desktop won't boot, and I can't get back to BSD. like grub didn't notice that i have bsd installed
[02:27] <javier> Ok owe bootear the CD of kubuntu in way live CD
[02:27] <Lego_Dan> ok how do that?
[02:28] <javier> Not the option of installation if not the option live CD
[02:28] <Lego_Dan> ?
[02:29] <javier> You have to bootear from the CD and when this take-off you aparecera a menu where you can choose the option to try kubuntu without altering the equipment(team)
[02:29] <cuznt> lego_dan sounds like x needs to be reconfigured
[02:29] <Elonetaru> anyone know how do i passby speed limit in school?
[02:29] <cuznt> !reconfigure
[02:29] <cuznt> !x
[02:32] <Lego_Dan> javier, ok so im booting the cd.  cuznt, how do I reconfigure x
[02:34] <Lego_Dan> ok so try the option "Try Kubuntu without any change to your computer"
[02:34] <javier> yes
[02:34] <Lego_Dan> ok so what will this do?
[02:35] <Lego_Dan> what changes does the kubuntu install make that this won't ??
[02:37] <Lego_Dan> its not loading the monitor just keeps shutting off.. and then comes on with the _ flashing in the top left corner, then my monitor shuts off again...
[02:38] <Lego_Dan> its done it about 5 times already
[02:38] <Lego_Dan> and this is all it does when the actual install try and boot.. only i get the white outlined x in the bottom middle
[02:40] <javier> Ok give me a second
[02:40] <Lego_Dan> now it has stopped.. but the screen is completely black with the _ flashing in the top left corner
[02:42] <shock_day13> hey fellows
[02:43] <Lego_Dan> hello
[02:43] <shock_day13> recently i tried to do some customising with satrt up manager
[02:43] <shock_day13> and now i dont see usplash screen
[02:43] <shock_day13> it shows text insted
[02:44] <shock_day13> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[02:44] <Lego_Dan> crazy, I in worse shape then you :P atleast you see something :)
[02:44] <Lego_Dan> I'm*
[02:44] <shock_day13> lol
[02:45] <shock_day13> wht happens with you on startup?
[02:46] <Lego_Dan> I installed 8.10 on my second partition and now I can't access my first partition, and on start up all i get is my monitor shutting of when it comes on i have _ flashing in the top corner and a white outlined x in the bottom middle.. I have a Radeon 2400 HD PCI card, and yea.. It won't let me use my BSD partition...
[02:46] <shock_day13> ohhhhh
[02:47] <Lego_Dan> :P i would love a menu issue at this ponit :P
[02:47] <shock_day13> :D
[02:48] <Lego_Dan> i wonder if its my radeon 2400HD or if its kde4 ... I just want grub to let me boot my bsd box...
[02:48] <Lego_Dan> partition...
[02:49] <shock_day13> did you install 2 distros?
[02:51] <Lego_Dan> what do you mean? I always ran dual boot, xp / bsd . and I installed Kubuntu over xp - deleted the partition and created a slice with the kubuntu install. leaving my BSD partition completely untouched.. and GRUB doesn't see my bsd and automatically just boots into kubuntu which.. doesn't boot properly
[02:52] <adrian__> hola
[02:52] <adrian__> alguien habla castellano?
[02:52] <shock_day13> i dont exactly know the solution to this problem
[02:52] <javier> si
[02:52] <adrian__> jeje
[02:52] <shock_day13> but i had read in an article
[02:52] <javier> somos dos jajajaja
[02:52] <adrian__> como va?
[02:52] <adrian__> se
[02:52] <javier> bien y vos
[02:52] <adrian__> todo ok
[02:52] <adrian__> tenes idea
[02:52] <adrian__> de como puedo solucionar
[02:53] <adrian__> un problema con el audio ALSA
[02:53] <adrian__> ?
[02:53] <javier> que te hace
[02:53] <shock_day13> that in case if you want to install 2 distros on one machine then you have to give the same home partion or root partition
[02:53] <shock_day13> or something like that
[02:53] <picketfence> What is that program that lets you see how much space you have on your hd?
[02:53] <picketfence> I thought it was something like KDiskFree
[02:53] <shock_day13> i once tried installing sabayon4 and kubuntu 8.10
[02:54] <shock_day13> and faced the same problem
[02:54] <Lego_Dan> so how do i do that.. why did i never have to with xp and freebsd?
[02:54] <adrian__> jeje
[02:54] <adrian__> no hace nada
[02:54] <adrian__> no tiene audio
[02:55] <adrian__> es una satellite a135
[02:55] <adrian__> ubuntu 64
[02:55] <javier> que distro estas usando
[02:55] <adrian__> ubuntu
[02:55] <allen> check
[02:55] <adrian__> debian creo
[02:55] <javier> 8.04?
[02:55] <adrian__> 8.10
[02:55] <adrian__> ahora estaba bajando la 9.04
[02:55] <javier> es un dolor de huevos la 8.10 jajajaja
[02:55] <adrian__> si?
[02:55] <adrian__> grrr
[02:55] <javier> espera a que salga la version final
[02:56] <picketfence> never mind, I found it.
[02:56] <adrian__> voy a actualizarla
[02:56] <javier> para bajarla
[02:56] <adrian__> oka
[02:56] <adrian__> de donde sos_
[02:56] <adrian__> ?
[02:56] <javier> tenes el icono del parlante arriba a la derecha
[02:56] <shock_day13> well i guess its cos xp has completely different system files
[02:56] <javier> ?
[02:56] <adrian__> si
[02:56] <adrian__> es mas
[02:56] <javier> de salliquelo prv. de buenos aires
[02:56] <adrian__> ah
[02:56] <adrian__> mar del plata
[02:56] <adrian__> pv de bs b
[02:56] <shock_day13> i guess due to the similarity between the linux distros filesystems
[02:56] <shock_day13> they conflict each other
[02:56] <adrian__> si .es mas
[02:56] <adrian__> la ruedita
[02:57] <adrian__> del volumen funciona (graficamente digo(
[02:57] <javier> si le das doble click con el boton izquierdo no te habre las preferencia del audio es como el del xp
[02:57] <adrian__> si
[02:57] <javier> y fijate de subir todos
[02:57] <adrian__> no marca error x ningun lado
[02:57] <adrian__> pero
[02:57] <shock_day13> tell you what
[02:57] <adrian__> no se escuchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:57] <adrian__> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[02:57] <javier> ya vengo
[02:57] <shock_day13> go to google
[02:57] <adrian__> oka
[02:57] <adrian__> saludossssssssssssssssssss
[02:57] <shock_day13> and search for LINUX FOR YOU
[02:57] <shock_day13> and in that site
[02:58] <shock_day13> go the archives
[02:58] <shock_day13> and try to find the article in feb 2009's issue
[02:59] <Lego_Dan> how do i get to the archives..
[02:59] <shock_day13> there would be a link for archives on the home page
[03:00] <shock_day13> wait i'll give you the url
[03:00] <Lego_Dan> um :S im getting a website under construction..
[03:02] <shock_day13> lol
[03:03] <shock_day13> this site just shows the article heading
[03:03] <shock_day13> and not the full article
[03:05] <shock_day13> http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:UVuNp-oNFNMJ:www.hentzenwerke.com/wp/installingmultiplelinuxdistributions_onasinglebox.pdf+how+to+install+two+different+linux+distributions+on+one+machine&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in&client=firefox-a
[03:05] <shock_day13> i hope this would help
[03:12] <Lego_Dan> Thanks I'll give it a read and get back to ya :)
[03:12] <shock_day13> no problem
[03:53] <earle> User talk:67.86.88.191 (hist) candace Mackensen 20060812212714 hive of scum and villainy [edit=sysop:move=sysop]
[03:53] <earle> grr thanks irssi
[03:53] <earle> s/candace// # tab-paste mistake
[03:54] <earle> anyway, that comment made me chuckle
[03:54] <earle> ugh wrong channel as well!
[03:54]  * earle facepalms
[03:57] <holyscott> Is it me or did 9.04 just download kde 4.2.2?
[04:16] <deghar> hola
[04:18] <theemulator> Hola a todos
[04:58] <yosh_> I'm French
[04:58] <yosh_> And I'd want to speak to some French speakers
[04:58] <Riesh> !fr
[04:58] <[agatha]> i will try to find you today evening J-_ so we can catch up a bit... many things changed lately
[04:59] <Riesh> He, ubottu is gone
[04:59] <yosh_> !fr
[05:00] <[agatha]> yosh_:  #ubuntu-fr
[05:00] <[agatha]> is the channel for support in french
[05:40] <mattparry> Hi, I want to run kde trunk, but having trouble - what is the best channel for help?
[05:41] <GentooJohnny> mattparry, good question.
[05:42] <mattparry> I an running jaunty, but reading planetkde and all the exciting things going into kde 4.3 I wanted to run trunk
[05:42] <Riesh> mattparry: what is this kde trunk you want to run ?
[05:43] <mattparry> I have setup a virtualbox guest and installed kubuntu, but I am getting lost in the techbase articals on how to build trunk
[05:43] <Riesh> mattparry: kde 4.2.2 just came into Jaunty .... kde.org not even have a roadmap for kde 4.3
[05:43] <mattparry> well i *think* I want to run the 4.3 trunk
[05:44] <mattparry> ok, maybe 4.3 trunk isnt the correct word, but when I read the planet, they say check out so and so in svn
[05:44] <Riesh> you want to compile kde yourself ? ...
[05:45] <mattparry> Thanks for your questions Riesh - I tried using kde-neon-nightly, but that is not for jaunty and did not update anything
[05:45] <Riesh> will take several hours to compile ... you also need to compile qt yourself i think .... will also take a long time
[05:45] <Riesh> mattparry: neon is the nickname for Amarok Nightly build
[05:45] <Riesh> not for kde
[05:46] <mattparry> thats correct, but they also do a kde daily build
[05:46] <mattparry> im guessing this is not the best channel, i understand that, do you know which is the best channel?
[05:46] <Riesh> Amarok is the default music player for kde ...
[05:47] <Riesh> maybe you can ask in #kde
[05:47] <mattparry> thanks Riesh I will try in #kde
[06:17] <keisangi> hi there, i installed xbar, but it doesn't display menus.. just tasks
[06:17] <keisangi> how can i make it display global menus
[06:40] <gp> hi
[06:41] <gp> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[06:42] <gp> hello
[06:42] <gp_> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[06:42] <gp> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[06:43] <gp2you> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[06:44] <gopogo> hi
[06:45] <gp2you> hello
[06:45] <gp2you> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[06:45] <gopogo> kde 4.2 sucks
[06:45] <gopogo> its like vista
[06:51] <gp2you> anybody there
[06:55] <husayn> i have instaled interpid .. but my screen is blur
[06:56] <husayn> and when i decrease resolution to 800*600 it works fine
[06:56] <husayn> any idea ?
[07:00] <anr78> Isn't setup of dual screen from the gui supported in 8.10/9.04? I can't choose _not_ to clone screens.
[07:13] <wet> hi, how can i use both mouse and mousepad on 8.10 in same time?
[07:20] <ubuntu_> hola
[07:20] <ubuntu_> hay alguien alli
[07:20] <ubuntu_> soy nuevo en esto y no se que hacer
[07:21] <ubuntu_> hey
[07:21] <ubuntu_> jackson
[07:21] <ubuntu_> hola
[07:21] <ubuntu_> hola lepricon
[07:22] <gp2you> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[07:22] <jackson> hi
[07:25] <ubuntu_> hola
[07:25] <ubuntu_> hi jackson
[07:25] <gp2you> i am using the cursed kde 4.2 and its not mounting usb drive automatically
[07:25] <ubuntu_> are you there ???
[07:25] <ubuntu_> estas alli ??
[07:26] <ubuntu_> nin gun culero habla
[07:26] <ubuntu_> q puts
[07:26] <tsimpson> !es | ubuntu_
[07:26] <ubuntu_> tan alli o tan
[07:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:26] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:26] <ubuntu_> the usb is a problem
[07:26] <ubuntu_> i have a solution
[07:31] <rraphink> firewire?
[07:31] <rraphink> hi tonio_
[07:31] <Tonio_> yop rraphink !
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ease up on the enter key
[07:33] <husayn_> i have installed flash player.. but still when i open firefox 3.x or sea monkey it says that you have got a older version of flash or you have flash disabled... now what to do i cant see youtube
[07:38] <jackson> !weather 16001
[07:39] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: hey bro how r u
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: not bad, work is quiet so im chillin
[07:39] <eagles0513875> im having a problem mounting my remotte share
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you ok
[07:39] <eagles0513875> jonathan@jonathan-laptop:~$ sudo smbmount //192.168.2.2/users /mnt/WindowsShare -o -username=jonathan,password=623xvnqh48, rw
[07:39] <eagles0513875> mount error: can not change directory into mount target /mnt/WindowsShare
[07:39] <eagles0513875> getting frustrated as u can see above
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> you have a space in your options line
[07:40] <eagles0513875> im trying to mount that folder which i have on a remote machine
[07:40] <eagles0513875> where
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> between , and the r of rw
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> you can't just throw in spaces because it takes your fancy
[07:40] <eagles0513875> i know im still only half awake i removed the space but i still get the same error
[07:41] <eagles0513875> does the folder have to be shared from the windows machine for it to work
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> yes, unless you access one of the automatically shared resources in windows (which i HATE)
[07:42] <eagles0513875> thats interesting i typed the machine ip and i logged in and i seem to have access to what i need that way O_O
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> like admin$ (WINDOWS\SYSTEM32) and all drives are shared hidden (like C$) and only accessible by Admin accounts
[07:42] <eagles0513875> well i logged in with my account which is admin
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> is the folder shared as 'users'
[07:43] <eagles0513875> its shared in users
[07:44] <eagles0513875> its in the users folder and shared from within
[07:44] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhh vista lol
[07:44] <eagles0513875> tried to mount it again and the same error
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> then its not shared on LAN, it needs sharing properly, make sure your chosen account has appropriate access to the files as well as the share (windows has 2 share permission sets for some stupid reason)
[07:45] <eagles0513875> i added the admin account which is my login acount
[07:45] <eagles0513875> so wait i have to add my account jonathan which is the admin account adn the admin account
[07:46] <eagles0513875> still nothing
[07:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: still nothing i have added permissions for admin and jonathan account and still wont mount
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: is it for the share as well as the files themselves
[07:50] <eagles0513875> yes but the files are in other folder
[07:50] <eagles0513875> s
[07:50] <eagles0513875> i never had this problem in intrepid
[07:50] <eagles0513875> seems like there is an issue with it in jaunty and that channel is dead right now
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: try: smbclient -L //192.168.2.2
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> jaunty is killer :D. I'm loving it
[07:51] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[07:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/142586/
[07:51] <eagles0513875> right now im loving it as well but getting rather frustrated with this samba issue
[07:52] <noren> !nvidia
[07:52] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: are you in offtopic
[07:53] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: im wondering if the issue could be caused by the rc of vista sp2
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: could ask in ##windows to see if anyone else has this issue. I dont use windows so I cannot really advise past the mount command
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600004
[07:54] <eagles0513875> thanks ActionParsnip :) great help as always
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> hih noren
[07:58] <noren> hi ActionParsnip: i got some prob with nvidia 8600gt card display...... http://imagebin.ca/view/lqEuzN.html  can u guide me
[07:59] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: im loving jaunty though
[07:59] <noren> theres a grid like view always i have updated all the latest drivers also
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> noren: pretty
[08:01] <noren> ??
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> noren: boot to root recovery mode and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <faLUCE> Hi. is it possible to extracte a c-style array pointer ( char* , in my case ) from a std::vector<char> ?
[08:04] <eagles0513875> faLUCE:  that looks like something for the #c++ channel
[08:04] <husayn_> when i open youtube.com from firefox 2, my cpu goes to 100%
[08:04] <husayn_> is there a solution to it
[08:04] <tsimpson> faLUCE: yes, .data(), but as eagles0513875 said ##c++ is where to ask
[08:04] <faLUCE> eagles0513875: LOL, I wrote it in the wrong channel
[08:04] <faLUCE> :)
[08:04] <noren> sorry got disconnected ActionParsnipdid u say something
[08:04] <faLUCE> tsimpson: thanks anyway :)
[08:05] <faLUCE> tsimpson: anyway you gave me the right answer :) :)
[08:05] <tsimpson> faLUCE: btw, if you want a vector<char>, why not just use std::string ;)
[08:05] <tsimpson> same thing really, but with convenience functions
[08:06] <noren> sorry got disconnected ActionParsnip did u say something
[08:06] <faLUCE> tsimpson: it can vary
[08:06] <tsimpson> faLUCE: vary how?
[08:07] <faLUCE> tsimpson: it can be a vector of other types too
[08:07] <tsimpson> faLUCE: if you're writing a template, just use iterators
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> noren: just saying howdy
[08:07] <faLUCE> tsimpson: I'm using a template
[08:07] <faLUCE> not writing one
[08:08] <tsimpson> faLUCE: most will want iterators then
[08:08] <noren> ActionParsnip: i m good but not my display :(
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> noren: what release are you using?
[08:10] <noren> since my prob is same with windows and ubuntu i m looking for some deep end solution
[08:10] <eagles0513875> !release | noren
[08:10] <eagles0513875> wrong thing noren
[08:10] <eagles0513875> !version | noren
[08:11] <noren> eagles0513875: what good the version do ??
[08:12] <eagles0513875> tells you what release of kubuntu you have
[08:12] <eagles0513875> if its intrepid hardy w/e
[08:12] <eagles0513875> that will give the answer to what ActionParsnip had asked about what version you have
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> noren: if you can boot to recovery root console, run: lsb_release -c
[08:14] <noren> ActionParsnip: i m using ubuntu jaunty as of now
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> noren: jaunty isnt supported here
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> noren: /j #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <noren> http://imagebin.ca/view/lqEuzN.html this is the prob i m trying to fix, the grid like view. very anoying
[08:15] <noren> ActionParsnip: i know but jaunty is not the prob, its the same in hardy also
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> noren: well you are running jaunty so are subject to jaunty beta-ness
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> noren: so your support is in +1 until you rinstall intrepid or the official release of jaunty
[08:17] <noren> anyone knows any official support channel of nvidia.. i think this is card specific prob
[08:17] <noren> ActionParsnip: i have both intrepid 32bit and jaunty 64bit as of now
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> then i'd check your nvidia hardware is ok, you should be able to use the 180 driver
[08:19] <noren> yes i am trying to figure out how to check if my nvidia hardware is ok
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> noren: i'd open case and look at it with the system off and make sure its plugged in correctly if its an expansion card
[08:26] <noren> my prob is 400w psu enogh for 8600gt ??
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> depends on ram amount and cpu speed / type as well as all the other junk in your system
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> noren: if you have 8 CPUs with 64Gb RAM, probably not
[08:28] <noren> i got 1 gb ram and amd 64bit dual processor
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> should be ok
[08:58] <marie_blubb> morning. I'd like to install my scanner canoscan 9900f but I cannot find drivers. I'm new to kubuntu, so what do I do? install XP?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495752
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: let me see if canon have a driver
[09:00] <Underbyte0000> *hugs his gnome and its "search for drivers" feature*
[09:00] <Tm_T> Underbyte0000: your point is?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: nope, they dont make one
[09:01] <marie_blubb> canon just supports macintosh and windows. the forum says its not going to work. I found a few other forums that tell me the same. but what do I do then, really install a second XP
[09:02] <marie_blubb> do the drivers for mac work with linux ?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: looks like you need a dual boot or use the scanner on a seperate system
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: i wouldnt think so at all, no
[09:05] <marie_blubb> hm really? do you have these problems often with linux. as I'm newbie that confuses me really
[09:05] <RurouniJones> Scanners can be a pain in the arse with linux
[09:05] <RurouniJones> Printers less so
[09:05] <Tm_T> RurouniJones: now now
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: linux is unfortunately considered "niche"
[09:05] <Tm_T> marie_blubb: I usually look first what I buy, so, HP for example is known to have good support for Linux
[09:05] <RurouniJones> Basically for scanners you want to find one that aworks nicely with linux before you buy
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: stupid companys dont make drivers as they can make a tonne more money supporting "more popular" OSes
[09:06] <Underbyte0000> Tim_T: My point is that Either Gnome is better then KDE or KDE is better then Gnome for several obscure and ultimately irrelivant reaosns that i'm sure we could argue for hours
[09:06] <Underbyte0000> :-P
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: so they ditch linux / BSD etc
[09:06] <marie_blubb> ok thanks. :(
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: if you mak sure the scanner you intend to purchase is linux friendly you wont get tis kind of issue, same with all hardware
[09:06] <Tm_T> Underbyte0000: 1) you failed with my nick  2) false, that function is also in KDE, it's called jockey-(your DE)
[09:07] <Tm_T> !jockey
[09:07] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[09:07] <RurouniJones> !info jockey
[09:07] <Tm_T> !info jockey-kde
[09:08] <Tm_T> !info jockey-gnome
[09:09] <Tm_T> anyway, packages related to it:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jockey&searchon=names&suite=intrepid
[09:17] <Underbyte0000> Tm_T: 1)Ach, die grammatischen nazi ist hier!  2)Perhaps, but thats irrelivant because KDE is so damn conveluted, its hard to find anything.  3)google knows too
[09:34]  * genii thinks about switching to decaf
[09:35] <[Vex]> genii: don't! it doesn't work ;)
[09:36] <genii> [Vex]: I was up half the night working on a tough problem and had too much caffeine now
[09:36] <[Vex]> genii: there's no such thing!
[09:36] <genii> Heh, I'd usually agree
[09:36] <[Vex]> genii: there's "the shits", but no such thing as too much coffee
[09:38] <[Vex]> how come I can have more than one KDE Wallet Service ?
[09:39] <[Vex]> my kvpnc uses another one than my i.e. KMail (and yesterday my kssaskpass)
[09:39] <genii> Well, you can have multiple wallets, each with it's own password, etc.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> you can have too much, i have a mate who chugs energy drinks all day and he's borderline diabetic
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> and has a lot of shaks
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> *shakes
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> not cool
[09:48] <[Vex]> genii: not the issue
[09:49] <[Vex]> genii: yesterday, I had ksshaskpass v 0.4.1, this somehow included a linkage to an old version of kwallet
[09:49] <[Vex]> compiled v 0.5.1 -> issue solved
[09:49] <[Vex]> now for kvpnc.....
[09:50] <genii> [Vex]: Ah, glad to see you resolved it, and shared the solution as well for others
[09:50] <[Vex]> sharing ;) is caring
[09:51] <edward_> hi
[09:51] <edward_> guten morgen
[09:52] <[Vex]> genii: crap... Help -> About in kvpnc says: "kvpnc 0.9.0 (Using KDE 3.5.10)"
[09:52] <genii> [Vex]: Heh!
[09:52] <[Vex]> edward_: german? then is hello, it's 10:52 AM ;)
[09:53] <[Vex]> genii: fresh compile then... damn this
[09:53] <genii> [Vex]: Perhaps you require kpnc-kde4   or similar
[09:53] <genii> bleh typos
[09:53] <[Vex]> hmmm
[09:54] <[Vex]> from where?
[09:54] <genii> Did you check apt-cache search  ?
[09:55] <[Vex]> dpkg -l , but didn't update dselect
[09:55] <[Vex]> 2 sec
[09:56] <[Vex]> nothing
[09:56] <genii> I'm on 3.5.10 so have no real recourse for finding it.
[09:56] <[Vex]> not even when using : apt-cache search kvpnc
[09:56] <[Vex]> genii: ok...
[09:56] <genii> [Vex]:  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kvpnc?content=12570  shows a link for kde4 sources
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search vpn
[09:57] <[Vex]> really looking forward to Jaunty
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: its nice
[09:57] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: "Stable"?
[09:57] <genii> I don't install interim versions normally. My habit is LTS->LTS
[09:57] <[Vex]> genii: thanks mate!!! was in there, but didn't see the link
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> well my linux use is very limited and my hardware is 100% compatible with linux
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> so mine is fine
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> yours may be different
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> you could install toa usb stick to try it ;)
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> s'what i did, then upgraded once it was ok
[09:59] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: an idea yes
[10:00]  * [Vex] is compiling
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: tried apt-build ?
[10:01] <[Vex]> nope
[10:01] <[Vex]> checkinstall
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> apt-build uses deb-src repos instead of deb repos, downloads source and compiles the app in
[10:02] <genii> Need to reboot to check something I'm working on. /away a while
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> you can specify level of optomisation for the compiles too, makes your system run like gentoo, a little
[10:02] <marie_blubb> i have 4 pcs, and 3 should have to access the data of the number 1 pc. thus I need a network and ione pc has to share its data with the others. how do I do that? I already managed to have fix IPs
[10:05] <thehammer> hi
[10:06] <thehammer> i've a problem installing grup on a ICH9 fake-raid
[10:06] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: if I wanted my system to run like gentoo.....
[10:07] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: but of course it makes it more "uptodate"
[10:07] <[Vex]> which is wahet I obviously need right now
[10:07] <[Vex]> I'll give it a go
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> its just another way to install stuff
[10:08] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:09] <thehammer> i'm trying to install grup in a chroot
[10:09] <thehammer> chroot works, but
[10:09] <[Vex]> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU : Architecture must be core2 then
[10:09] <thehammer> grub-install  /dev/sda says: /dev/mapper/isw_didbiagabc_Volume06 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:10] <[Vex]> thehammer: ls -al /dev/ ?
[10:10] <thehammer> works (long output)
[10:11] <[Vex]> ok, then I can't help, sry
[10:15] <marie_blubb> hm was my question a tricky one or too easy? sry I'm new to kubuntu and blond ;)
[10:16] <Tm_T> marie_blubb: you can use NFS, SSHFS or SMB atleast
[10:22] <marie_blubb> thanks now I have something to google for. very confusing for me thelinux world..
[10:22] <Tm_T> !smb | marie_blubb
[10:23] <Tm_T> for example (:
[10:25] <marie_blubb> thanks can samba communicate with one windows pc and 3 linux pcs as well?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: samba can communicate with all modern OSes
[10:28] <marie_blubb> ubottu the second link doesnt work. . but it sounds like a perfect guide for me as I beginner and then I dont habe to ask stupid questions anymore :)
[10:30] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: an apt-build update will only update the packages prior comlied by apt-build, or?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: they will check the deb-src repos you have specified in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:30] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: sry, meant "apt-build upgrade"
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> and download the source code for apps you wish to install rather than precompiled bianrys
[10:31] <[Vex]> and "apt-build world"
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: for world you will need to create a file with a list of installed apps
[10:31] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: ok, and "upgrade"
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Build_Architecture.html
[10:32] <Tm_T> !away > saschpe__away
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: to upgrade you'd rebuild world
[10:32] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: but those are two diff commands...
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: it can be fun but it ca get messy too, makes my firefox perform halfway decent rather than its usual bloated sluggishness
[10:34] <[Vex]> where is my repository?
[10:34] <[Vex]> gotta have a look...
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> if you read /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> where it says deb-src  those will be used
[10:37] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: hmm, I'm wondering if this should have it's own channel, this apt-build in Ubuntu
[10:37] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: as it's bit of its own world, right?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: thats not my call. Its a fully fledged feature of *buntu though
[10:37] <Tm_T> I know
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !info apt-build
[10:37] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: found my answer in /etc/apt/apt-build.conf
[10:37] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I mean it in the sense to collect the wisdom to one place (:
[10:38] <[Vex]> build-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/build
[10:38] <[Vex]> repository-dir = /var/cache/apt-build/repository
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: have fun
[10:38] <[Vex]> thx, looks cool
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: i only know how to use it, i dont know about "wisdom" :D
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> apart from they make unlicensed NES games
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> usually bible related
[10:43] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: it just compiled the old kde3.5 version... :(
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> cool
[10:44] <[Vex]> nope, wanted the kde4 version :(
[10:47] <[Vex]> argh, it removed kdelibs5-dev and installed kdelibs4-dev
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> make sure you have deb-src for all your deb repos
[10:51] <asraniel> hi there. anybody has the problem in jaunty that kontakt starts two times on login? (will be back in 10 minutes, thx for the answers)
[10:51] <larsaam> Hi! Anyone know why the search function in Konqueror disappear after a search?
[10:52] <moskalenko> hi! I've a problem with my tv-tuner! It's GOTView USB 2.0 Hybrid MasterStick. Does anybody know how to make it work?
[10:54] <yoritomo> hello all
[10:54] <larsaam> moskalenko: it do now show up in kopete?
[10:54] <larsaam> moskalenko: or xawtv?
[10:55] <yoritomo> is it somebody  got succes to install a printer Lexmark 2300 series under kubuntu ?
[10:55] <moskalenko> larsaam: what do mean about kopete?
[10:55] <larsaam> moskalenko: kopete > settings > configure > video
[10:55] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: don't know if I did it, but now there is a package for the right one ;)
[10:56] <larsaam> moskalenko: just to see if the card is detected...
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-2300
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: nice
[10:57] <moskalenko> larsaam: ah! understood! i can't check it right now, but i'm afraid it won't be detected there. I installed tvtime and it said nothing to me
[10:58] <yoritomo> yes i came from that page, and it is nonsense , finally not working on the end of the tutorial :s
[10:58] <[Vex]> or not...
[10:58] <XKiLL3R> hi all
[10:59] <larsaam> moskalenko: maybe run lsusb / lscp to find the chipset of the card?
[10:59] <XKiLL3R> i need help
[10:59] <XKiLL3R> every time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen
[11:00] <moskalenko> larsaam: lsusb shows me this:
[11:00] <moskalenko> Bus 007 Device 006: ID 5654:5254
[11:00] <larsaam> moskalenko: its an usb videocard, right?
[11:01] <moskalenko> larsaam: right
[11:01] <XKiLL3R>  every time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen Why :S ?!, i am runing kubuntu 8.10 , VGA = ATI HD 2600 ...
[11:01] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip i installed the script provided, and then i followed the instruction finally himself he said on the tutorial he needed a macos driver which he could not use :s
[11:02] <susbwoy> Hi, I recently installed firefox-3.0 and flashplugin-nonfree on Kubuntu 8.10. youtube videos work however there is no sound in the videos. Is someone able to point me into the right direction? I've found some info regarding not being in the 'audio' group, but sound works fine in KDE.
[11:02] <moskalenko> larsaam: i can type the hardware used in this tv-tuner, but i don't know, what to do with it
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: thats all i know,
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: check thehcl ^
[11:02] <XKiLL3R> ActionParsnip:  can u help me ?
[11:02] <SandGorgon> guys.. i installed a minimal kde setup (from minimal CD) - I dont have system settings app. How do I get that ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: did you check the lexmark site for a ppd file?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> XKiLL3R: whatsup?
[11:03] <XKiLL3R> ActionParsnip: hey , i got a problem on my vga
[11:04] <XKiLL3R> ActionParsnip: here is it " every time i download my ati driver after restart it gives me a blank screen Why :S ?!, i am runing kubuntu 8.10 , VGA = ATI HD 2600 ..."
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> susbwoy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D590989&ei=b43USYKULdKEtwf2zszgDw&usg=AFQjCNGQDXzPk7_88kMOXv4dysBNdB9gHQ    http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=4&q=http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/msg00168.html&ei=b43USYKULdKEtwf2zszgDw&usg=AFQjCNF3ZA_f2wG8dmbRnj6nfFkpMy72kg      http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=5&q=https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2007-July/0013
[11:04] <larsaam> moskalenko: maybe search for the hardware at google.com/linux
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !ati | XKiLL3R
[11:04] <larsaam> moskalenko: that will narrow your search quite well, hopefully :)
[11:04] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: hmmm I only have deb-src in my /etc/apt/sources.list, not in ./etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-build.. is that wrong
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> XKiLL3R: you should ask the room rather than just me
[11:04] <moskalenko> larsaam:i'll see :)
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: that sounds fine to me
[11:05] <XKiLL3R> ActionParsnip:  lol yea i already did but no 1 replay :D
[11:05] <XKiLL3R> Thx alot anyway
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: try: sudo apt-build update
[11:05] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: then I can't get it to work... though it warned about deb-src for universe in experimental
[11:06] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: I did
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> [Vex]: should be ok then, thats all ive ever done, make sure you have deb-src for all your repos then away you go
[11:09] <[Vex]> ActionParsnip: I'll keep trying
[11:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Good day all, any of you knows by chance in which package (if any) are the localizations for kile in jaunty? I recall some kile-i18n-it which is no longer there
[11:18] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip, i tryed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkZ23 but not working neither
[11:30] <[Vex]> yoritomo: his offline
[11:32] <yoritomo> ??
[11:32] <yoritomo> ah thanks
[11:34] <[Vex]> yoritomo: not sure if there is a difference between your link... but maybe this: http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/intrepid/#z23
[11:34] <mrb__> hey everybody.. i just installed VMware Workstationa and Player after creating .deb from the .rpm but i cant find where to runt he application from
[11:34] <mrb__> can any one help on that plz ?
[11:34] <[Vex]> yoritomo: yes, it's ubuntu, but still
[11:45] <yoritomo> [Vex]> thanks for this link
[11:45] <yoritomo> approximately same yes
[11:45] <mrb__> anybody got the VMware installed on Kubuntu.. need some help plz ?
[11:51] <yoritomo> looks like installed now but not working :s
[11:57] <yoritomo> [Vex]> still not working
[11:57] <marie_blubb> i have one data server and 4 pcs that save data on this server. the pcs working on the server are kubuntu & windows pcs. would you say samba oder nfs is the better choice. *as easier as better*
[11:58] <DadanKarambolo_> samba is easyer for windwos clients
[12:00] <aris> does anybody would help me, i'm trying to migrate from ubuntu to PC-BSD without cd boot, ...
[12:00] <genii> marie_blubb: Did you mean to write "samba or nfs" or "samba over nfs" ?
[12:01] <marie_blubb> genii samba or nfs. i think i use either samba or nfs
[12:01] <AzAel> hrmm quassel is a wee bit featureless
[12:02] <AzAel> or am i missing something
[12:02] <genii> marie_blubb: Ah, OK. Yes, samba is the way when you have mixed operating systems
[12:03] <AzAel> genii: cept when you get permissions hell in a multiuser shares
[12:03] <AzAel> then again i always get permissions hell
[12:03] <genii> AzAel: Nah, just map em to a username which is used on the server only
[12:04] <yoritomo> [Vex] when i want to use the ppd script on the printer configuration nothing happens
[12:04] <yoritomo> maybe i should launch the config system as kdesudo but i don't know its name
[12:05] <[Vex]> yoritomo: normally localhost:631 ask for root pw
[12:05] <[Vex]> thats cups
[12:06] <AzAel> heh file_mode=755, dir_mode=755
[12:06] <AzAel> problemo solved
[12:06] <yoritomo> i don't understand well
[12:07] <[Vex]> yoritomo: browse to localhost:631 and set up a new printer using the ppd file
[12:07] <yoritomo> what is localhost:631?
[12:08] <yoritomo> but when i wanna browse with the tab, nothing happens, nor when i type the link
[12:08] <genii> yoritomo: That is the web interface to the printer configuration of CUPS
[12:11] <yoritomo> how to use it?
[12:11] <[Vex]> take firefox, point it to http://localhost:631
[12:11] <[Vex]> follow instructions
[12:12] <yoritomo> wow thanks
[12:12] <[Vex]> yoritomo: usb attached?
[12:13] <[Vex]> nevermind
[12:13] <yoritomo> yes
[12:13] <yoritomo> it ask for location
[12:13] <yoritomo> usb1 ?
[12:14] <yoritomo> or usb #1 ?
[12:14] <[Vex]> yoritomo: is it attached to /dev/usb1 ?
[12:16] <yoritomo> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 043d:00bb Lexmark International, Inc. 2300 Series
[12:16] <yoritomo> looks like 2 ?
[12:16] <yoritomo> but on the utilisty written usb #1
[12:17] <[Vex]> unplug the printer, wait 5 secs, plug it in again, wait 5 secs, type "dmesg" in terminal
[12:17] <[Vex]> see what it registers as
[12:17] <[Vex]> maybe someone else knows a better way....
[12:19] <marie_blubb> i'd like to use hardlinks for my backup. if i use samba is that just a software that doesnt allow hardlinks over the network or in general?
[12:20] <[Vex]> marie_blubb: I wasn't here when you ask your question.... backup over samba? rsync not an option?
[12:20] <tomcbe> hi
[12:21] <tomcbe> I am new to this IRC chat
[12:21] <tomcbe> some one help me
[12:21] <[Vex]> tomcbe: doing great at irc so far
[12:21] <[Vex]> ;)
[12:22] <tomcbe> how to sent emoticons here
[12:22] <[Vex]> regular old-school smileys
[12:22] <genii> Type them out
[12:22] <tomcbe> ha ha ha
[12:22] <[Vex]> but that not very Kubuntu ;)
[12:22] <[Vex]> ahhh your happy ;)
[12:22] <tomcbe> no pics?
[12:22] <[Vex]> not in textchats... no...
[12:23] <marie_blubb> [Vex] i have a data server and 4 pcs that save thier data on the server. now i have to decide if i use nfs or samba. one of the 4 pcs is using windows and I'm not sure if samba or nfs is the better chioce. I want to make backups (hardlinks) within the data server (not over the network)
[12:23] <RurouniJones> IRC doesn't support image based smileys
[12:23] <RurouniJones> You have to go oldskool :)
[12:24] <tomcbe> are there any bots here
[12:24] <RurouniJones> !bot
[12:24] <genii> !hi
[12:24] <tomcbe> like in windows
[12:24] <yoritomo> [vex] i could use that online utility correctly
[12:24] <yoritomo> and it looks installed but still not working then i think the problem is the driver :(
[12:25] <AzAel> tomcbe: irc is  the same whether you use windows mac or linux or even a mobile phone
[12:25] <yoritomo> they hint Z35 for lexmark 2300
[12:25] <genii> Gah Lexmark
[12:25] <AzAel> genii: LOL
[12:26] <[Vex]> marie_blubb: hmmm.... smbfs or nfs for saving data... saving data = backup?
[12:26] <genii> AzAel: Someone gave me a crappy one which was sort of the printer equivelent of a winmodem
[12:27] <[Vex]> genii: lexmark is ok, as long as pcl er ps
[12:27] <genii> [Vex]: ps printers of any kind are always nice
[12:27] <[Vex]> genii: jupz
[12:28] <genii> When i have a choice i try and get ahold of HP stuff
[12:30] <marie_blubb> [Vex ok sorry. i have a office and all the workers save thier data on one other pc (the server). within this server i have 4 Hard drives and i make backups with hardlinks. now I'd like to know if nfs or sama is the better choice for the connection with the server and if I can use hardlinks (within the server)  in case I use samba for the connechtion
[12:31] <tomcbe> anyone from india
[12:31] <victor__> i have ubuntu and i wanna instal the kade, i'm really begginer, so i need some help to do it,  anybody?
[12:32] <fosco_> victor__: kde?
[12:32] <conholster> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <RurouniJones> !info kde-desktop
[12:32] <RurouniJones> Oh yea, beaten to it AND I got the name wrong
[12:33] <victor__> uy yeah kde :P
[12:33] <[Vex]> marie_blubb: as long as all is saved on the server, the way it got there shouldn't matter
[12:33] <victor__> so just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   ???
[12:33] <[Vex]> marie_blubb: (it's a little off topic here, but anyways) I'd use samba, works well cross-platform
[12:33] <victor__> and if i want it in spanish?
[12:34] <conholster> yea as simple as that
[12:34] <victor__> but all my stuff isn't gonna change?
[12:34] <conholster> dont forget to select kde session when you log in
[12:34] <victor__> i mean wifi and whatever
[12:34] <conholster> dunno
[12:34] <tomcbe> how to develop aplications for linux
[12:35] <tomcbe> which software I have to use
[12:35] <tomcbe> like vb in windows
[12:35] <conholster> knetmanager
[12:35] <bazhang> tomcbe, compile?
[12:35] <[Vex]> !info kubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <tomcbe> yes baz
[12:36] <[Vex]> tomcbe: very wide question there ;)
[12:37] <tomcbe> why?
[12:37] <bazhang> tomcbe, build-essential
[12:37] <victor__> #kubuntu-es  ???
[12:37] <bazhang> !compile | tomcbe read this also
[12:37] <genii> tomcbe: The world of linux has many choices. Also depends on what language you want to begin programming in
[12:38] <[Vex]> application of which kind? language?
[12:38] <[Vex]> programminglanguage*
[12:38] <tomcbe> yes programming language like visual basic
[12:39] <RurouniJones> 9.04 is kde 4.2 isn't it?
[12:39] <[Vex]> RurouniJones: should become so yes ;)
[12:40] <RurouniJones> and intrpid is 4.1.whatever right?
[12:40] <tony__> I want to email a snapshot of my desktop, how do I do it? I have Ksnapshot.
[12:40] <david_> does anyone know if kpackagekit will honor the apt-listchanges settings?
[12:40] <tomcbe> what are the programming languages available in linux
[12:41] <conholster> tony: write email or take screenshot?
[12:41] <[Vex]> RurouniJones: in experimental I think, yes
[12:41] <tony__> screenshot
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:41] <[Vex]> RurouniJones: wait for Jaunty if you wan't KDE4.... I had SOME trouble running KDE4 in Intrepid
[12:41] <RurouniJones> Yea, that was my plan
[12:41] <[Vex]> yo yo yo ActionParsnip
[12:41] <[Vex]> T-minus 21 days
[12:42] <marie_blubb> stupid question: I'd like to use samba but how do I open Swat *sorry the documentations are not really for beginners
[12:42] <RurouniJones> Bit miffed that jaunty is delayed but what the heck. I'll survive on KDE 3.5
[12:42] <conholster> tony:  press Print Screen
[12:42] <RurouniJones> Still peeved they went KDE4 so early
[12:42] <conholster> should work
[12:42] <glen_> its beside F12
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> or run kscreenshot
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> !info kscreenshot
[12:42] <conholster> called ksnapshot
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> !find screenshot
[12:42] <[Vex]> RurouniJones: that topic was set on the 1/4
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> bah
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> !info ksnapshot
[12:43] <tony__> ok, and the person wants to see it from an email. how do i send it?
[12:43] <[Vex]> RurouniJones: sry, that was topic on #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <conholster> attach to email
[12:44] <tony__> ok
[12:50] <glen_> I just changed my screen resolution, but now the text runs beyond my visable screen on the left side.
[12:50] <esperegu> anyone knows why kickoff search does not get the focus anymore when I open the menu?
[12:50] <tomcbe> how to program in kubundu
[12:51] <conholster> glen: hold Alt key down then klick and drag window
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> tomcbe: can you be more specific
[12:51] <tomcbe> that is I want to develop a billing program to run in kubundu
[12:51] <genii> tomcbe: First learn about shells like bash. then work up to other languages like python and perl.
[12:52] <conholster> tombce: python + pyQT
[12:52] <tomcbe> where to get that python
[12:52] <conholster> + eric IDE google
[12:52] <conholster> sudo apt-get python should be installed by default
[12:53] <RurouniJones> tomcbe: You are in danger of becoming a help vampire - http://www.slash7.com/pages
[12:54] <glen_> Alt key is not working for me.   The maximized window is larger than my screen.  I cant even see the left edge untill I Unmaximize the application
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> glen_: right click in task bar where minimised apps go and click restore
[12:58] <esperegu> anyone knows why kickoff search does not automaticaly has the focus anymore?
[12:58] <conholster> glen: can resize with Alt key down + left click and drag?
[12:59] <conholster> glen: can you*
[13:00] <tomcbe> python in not there in my system I m using  kubuntu
[13:00] <tomcbe> how to install python
[13:01] <conholster> tombce: sudo apt-get install python
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> tomcbe: sudo apt-get install python
[13:02] <conholster> anyone got experience running kde on thinclients? faster or slower than gnome?
[13:02] <glen_> I can resize an un-maximized window by holding left mouse & dragging.  But nnothing seems to effect the maximized window.  Perhaps because it is off the screen at that point.
[13:02] <tomcbe> when I  used that command I got the message python is already the newest version
[13:03] <tomcbe> where to find python in my system
[13:04] <conholster> glen: try left click on taskbar and click maximize should unmaximize windos
[13:04] <conholster> window*
[13:04] <jussi01> tomcbe: do: locate python
[13:05] <conholster> running kde4.2.1 here...not sure if its available in earlier kde4
[13:13] <Laeborg> !9.04
[13:14] <conholster> lol was gonna ask if anyone knew if 4.2.2 was getting packaged for intrepid....just did update and upgrade and 4.2.2 downloading now
[13:18] <zak_> anyone using kmail with a yahoo account please ?i got issues send mails with kmails
[13:52] <suvaribey> hellp
[13:53] <devis> ciao a tutti
[13:53] <devis> hello
[13:53] <rosco_y> Hi
[14:03] <Sqyber> where i can download kubuntu with kde 4.2 ?
[14:16] <canen> hello
[14:16] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:16] <canen> anyone got the ATI Radeon X300 to work properly with composite in kde?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> composite ?
[14:17] <canen> desktop effects
[14:18] <canen> if i turn them off it randomly freezes the computer
[14:18] <miklcct> Sqyber: get jaunty beta
[14:18] <Sqyber> downloading atm :)
[14:32] <rosco_y> canen: I have had fair success with the ATI X900
[14:32] <canen> rosco_y: yeah? mind sharing your xorg.conf?
[14:32] <canen> i've changed things so many times i am not even sure where i am now.
[14:33] <canen> tried both opensource and the fglrx but eventually they both crash or say it's too slow
[14:36] <Havoc][> hm, just saw the announcement for kde 4.2.2. Is there any plan to add this to ppa-experimental for intrepid?
[14:36] <canen> already there
[14:36] <canen> just got an update
[14:36] <Havoc][> uh.. thanks :-)
[14:38] <Havoc][> canen: because, the kmail improvements sounds good.
[14:38] <canen> glad to see those as well
[14:39] <canen> just recently started using kmail again and i love it
[14:39] <canen> except for one bug where filters don't work properly if any of the spam filters are enabled
[14:40] <Havoc][> canen: yes, its really nice. i could be smoother (for example the could cache the shown imap-mails).. but its, imho, better than thunderbird.
[14:40] <Havoc][> and of course: its better integrated into kde.
[14:40] <canen> yeah
[14:40] <canen> you have cached imap for that....although i hear it is buggy so i don't use it
[14:41] <ibrar> How can i use 2.4 kernel with 8.10 kubuntu
[14:42] <Havoc][> hm, maybe we are talking about other things. i meant, every time, kmail checks imap mails, it rebuilds the email-tree. that takes about 20 seconds...
[14:42] <canen> sorry i meant disconnected imap
[14:43] <thehammer> ikonia: re
[14:44] <ikonia> thehammer: ?
[14:45] <cuznt> !quassell
[14:45] <thehammer> i've managed to install kubuntu with a /boot partition and a raid0
[14:45] <conholster> ibrar: prolly wont work that easy. if you need 2.4.x kernel try older distro
[14:45] <ikonia> thehammer ok?
[14:45] <thehammer> ikonia:  nearly
[14:46] <ikonia> thehammer: why are you telling me ?
[14:46] <thehammer> the kubuntu installer didn't recognized the raid
[14:46] <ikonia> I know this
[14:46] <ikonia> it won't/shouldn't
[14:46] <thehammer> so everything is on this partition
[14:46] <ibrar> but 6.06 is not picking drivers for my desktop
[14:46] <ikonia> thehammer: why are you telling me this, I have no problems with raid
[14:46] <thehammer> you helped me a few hours ago
[14:47] <conholster> ibrar: which drivers?
[14:47] <ibrar> conholster: ?
[14:47] <ikonia> did I?
[14:47] <thehammer> yep
[14:47] <ikonia> thehammer: sorry, I don't remember
[14:47] <thehammer> kk
[14:47] <ibrar> My network cards
[14:47] <ibrar> I have 3 network cards in my desktop
[14:47] <ibrar> and 6.0.6 which has 2.4 kernel only picking 1 card
[14:48] <conholster> ibrar: your nics will prolly work with the 2.6.x kernel in 8.10
[14:48] <thehammer> so  - how can I use this rais to boost my system? mount it as /usr?
[14:49] <ibrar> conholster: True, but i need a feature which is only in 2.4 kernel
[14:49] <thehammer> *raid
[14:49] <Unksi> ibrar: 6.06 has 2.6.15, none of ubuntu's have used 2.4
[14:49] <Unksi> *ubuntus
[14:49] <patarok> hello!
[14:49] <ibrar> Unksi: yesterday someone told me that it has 2.4
[14:49] <ibrar> Unksi: and some some tells me that it as 2.4
[14:49] <ibrar> Unksi: Let me check
[14:50] <patarok> can somebody tell me why i cant find libkde4-devel in my standard repo (9.04)
[14:50] <Unksi> ibrar: packages.ubuntu.com only shows up 2.6.15
[14:50] <conholster> ibrar: slackware 10 at least has 2.4.x kernel
[14:50] <Unksi> ibrar: oh wait, yea it does have 2.4.27 there^
[14:50] <Unksi> as well
[14:51] <Unksi> its just with totally different name
[14:51] <ibrar> Unksi: Whats its name
[14:51] <Unksi> ibrar: kernel*
[14:52] <ibrar> Unksi: 2.4.x
[14:52] <Unksi> 2.4.27
[14:52] <ibrar> Unksi: any 2.4.x
[14:52] <Unksi> thats the version they have there^
[14:52] <rosco_y> is anyone using two versions of ubuntu on two partitions of the same drive?
[14:53] <ibrar> Unksi: 2.6.15
[14:53] <ibrar> Unksi: 2.6.15-26-386
[14:53] <conholster> rosco: no but had several distros on same comp
[14:53] <rosco_y> I am trying to figure out how to modify grub to allow me to boot my second installation of ubuntu
[14:53] <Unksi> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
[14:54] <Unksi> search packages.ubuntu.com with kernel on dapper
[14:56] <NiTzer> Linux Linux media
[14:56] <ibrar> Unksi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386
[14:56] <Unksi> ye
[14:58] <ibrar> Unksi: Its only kernel image, so i have to install this kernel image with depper
[14:58] <ibrar> Unksi: Its only kernel image, so i have to install this kernel image with dapper
[14:59] <Unksi> there are headers too
[14:59] <sebastianp> moin
[14:59] <Unksi> and some patches^
[14:59] <Unksi> hi sebastianp
[15:04] <sebastianp> i've a small problem:
[15:04] <sebastianp> i've 2 partitions: sda2 and md0
[15:05] <sebastianp> sda2 is mounted as / and md0 currently not mounted
[15:05] <sebastianp> md0 is a raid0 and sda2 on a slow device
[15:05] <vnwarrior> hi guys.. installed a minimal KDE on ubuntu... but I dont have system-settings in my launcher... what is the settings program called ?
[15:06] <sebastianp> is it possible to mount sda2 as /boot and md0 as /
[15:07] <sebastianp> if it is possible - how can I do that?
[15:07] <mefisto__> vnwarrior: it's called systemsettings
[15:08] <vnwarrior> mefisto__: ty
[15:10] <mefisto__> sebastianp: I'm pretty sure /boot on a different partition is possible, but since I've never actually done it, I won't try to explain how it should be done. I'm sure googling will turn up something
[15:11] <mefisto__> sebastianp: what you need to do basically is to tell grub where /boot can be found and where / can be found
[15:11] <sebastianp> yep
[15:12] <sebastianp> so I have to copy everything to md0 and /boot to /
[15:12] <sebastianp> edit fstab and grub
[15:12] <marie_blubb> i'd like to use samba and installes swat. i dont get the global options in swat. what did I do wrong
[15:12] <sebastianp> and everything should work
[15:13] <ibrar> Unksi: Its possible to use this kernel with 8.10?
[15:13] <sebastianp> problem is - i will kill my system that way I think
[15:14] <Unksi> ibrar: no idea, haven't used 2.4 myself.. but i would expect more or less problems with it
[15:14] <Unksi> you can always try building it yourself if it doesnt work^
[15:15] <mefisto__> sebastianp: why will it kill your system?
[15:15] <sebastianp> i'll myke at least one mistake
[15:16] <mefisto__> sebastianp: try searching for a guide, preferably an ubuntu one. and if something goes wrong, you could ask in here about fixing things
[15:16] <ibrar> Unksi: Hmmm it gives error about initrd-tools
[15:16] <ibrar> Unksi: While installing 2.4 on 8.10
[15:17] <Unksi> which kind of error
[15:17] <Unksi> too new?
[15:25] <ibrar> >  kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.48); however:
[15:25] <ibrar> >   Package initrd-tools is not installed.
[15:25] <ibrar> Unksi: ?
[15:26] <Unksi> you could try install that package^
[15:26] <Unksi> and hope it doesnt have too much dependencies
[15:27] <mefisto__> !info initrd-tools
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !initramfs-tools
[15:29] <mefisto__> !info initramfs-tools
[15:29] <ibrar> > Package initrd-tools is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:29] <ibrar> > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:29] <ibrar> > is only available from another source
[15:29] <ibrar> > E: Package initrd-tools has no installation candidate
[15:29] <ibrar> Unksi: ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ibrar , http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/initrd-tools-or-initramfs-tools-469879/
[15:32] <Unksi> ibrar: the package name has changed, if you wish to install the kernel from those packages you need to use the package from dapper as well
[15:32] <ibrar> BluesKaj: I don't think so its relevent
[15:33] <ibrar> Unksi: I think I have to change the repository to dapper too
[15:33] <Unksi> ibrar: it might make it faster, but it makes it a lot easier to break something
[15:34] <huanggp> Hill
[15:34] <ibrar> Unksi: Can you suggest any easy way to test somthing on 2.4.x
[15:34] <ibrar> Unksi: Its really sucks
[15:35] <Unksi> ibrar: maybe if you can find a live cd with 2.4? dunno if theres any, though
[15:35] <huanggp> All are English?Sorry,maye be I need to study Englis.
[15:36] <ibrar> Unksi: This will really help, let me find any live CD
[15:37] <ibrar> Unksi: But I am not hopefull
[15:37] <Unksi> huanggp: there is #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[15:37] <mefisto__> huanggp: what's your language?
[15:38] <Unksi> ibrar: yea, it might be that theres none as its quite old :/
[15:39] <ibrar> Unksi: Actually I need a feature "iproute2 with equalize" which is dropped in 2.6
[15:39] <mefisto__> ibrar: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:39] <Unksi> ok, no idea about that^
[15:40] <mefisto__> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/  even older
[15:42] <kuaera> Is there a method of forcing a file to be unloaded from memory?
[15:46] <marie_blubb> i installed samba and swat but where do I have to save the smb.conf as /usr/local/samba/lib doesnt exist (as it is mentioned in the documentation)
[15:47] <powergoal> I'm trying to add new widgets for kde4 through the add widgets interface.  I can download, but they fail to install with the error: Installation of /tmp/kde-<user>///99815-QuickUrl_1_2_1.plasmoid failed!
[15:47] <powergoal> Installation of /tmp/kde-<user>/// failed!
[15:47] <powergoal> any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:48] <jayhunold> marie_blubb: Which docs ? Look at /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:51] <marie_blubb> the documentation of oreilly tells me that after installing i have to make a new file that is called smb.conf
[15:52] <jayhunold> which is located in /etc/samba/ in most distributions.
[15:56] <marie_blubb> can I use the file in  /etc/samba/smb.conf to change the necessary details, looks more like a documentation to me
[15:56] <EagleScreen> Hello people
[15:57] <BluesKaj> marie_blubb, just install samba giu , it's handier
[15:57] <EagleScreen> KDE4.2.2 is out!
[15:57] <BluesKaj> err gui
[15:57] <EagleScreen> updates are available for 9.04
[15:58] <kaddi> and for 8.10?
[16:00] <marie_blubb> BluesKaj how do I install it (its not in adept) and how do I enter it?
[16:01] <EagleScreen> kaddi: for 8.10 check out the ppa repository
[16:01] <EagleScreen> marie_blubb: looking for?
[16:02] <kaddi> EagleScreen just did an apt-get update (i somehow managed to read 4.3 instead of 4.2.2 :D )
[16:02] <marie_blubb> anything to manage samba (like gui) as swat doesnt show me the global options
[16:02] <jayhunold> marie_blubb: Well, it's just well documented.
[16:02] <kaddi> thanks :)
[16:03] <diego__> vai tomar no cu geralllllllllllll
[16:04] <issac> hola
[16:04] <EagleScreen> hola issac
[16:04] <issac> wow
[16:04] <issac> ..
[16:04] <marie_blubb> jayhunold oh yes please, I found many docs but not really for beginners. it says alsways install samba, but not how...
[16:04] <issac> hola eaglescreen
[16:05] <EagleScreen> !es | issac
[16:05] <issac> oh right.!
[16:06] <issac> where is the english channels??
[16:06] <EagleScreen> this is an English channel
[16:06] <issac> ajjaj
[16:06] <issac> yes im sorry
[16:07] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: You'll want to install samba-client, possibly samba-doc, and samba-swat
[16:07] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: urpmi samba-client
[16:07] <jhutchins_wk> urpmi replaces aptitude.
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: swat will show you advanced options if you ask, and will jump to the relevant portion of the documentation if you click on a help icon.
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: I find it's very useful.
[16:08] <issac> can yo say me where is the spanish chennel? please?
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> Whoops!
[16:08] <issac> i very new in that, but, i like to belong to some one.
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: I apologise, this is NOT the channel I thought it was, urpmi does NOT replace aptitude.
[16:09] <kaddi> !es |issac
[16:09] <issac> hi kaddi.!
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> marie_blubb: Not entirely sure of the package names either, but sure that swat will help you and will show global and advanced options if asked.
[16:11] <EagleScreen> issac type coomand /join kubuntu-es
[16:11] <issac> ah ok thank you
[16:12] <issac> eagles!!
[16:13] <issac> are you here?
[16:13] <issac> no body home in the ubuntu.es
[16:13] <EagleScreen> issac
[16:14] <fosco__> ubuntu.es use to be down :-(
[16:14] <EagleScreen> #/join kubuntu-es
[16:14] <atoom_> #/join ubuntu-nl
[16:15] <EagleScreen> issac join to kubuntu-es
[16:16] <kaddi> issac klick on the following: #kubuntu-es
[16:17] <issac> thank you.. very much...!!!
[16:22] <RurouniJones> kaddi - For future reference you can use ! plus the language to get an auto message
[16:23] <RurouniJones> !es
[16:23] <RurouniJones> For example
[16:23]  * RurouniJones reads further up and realises all that was wasted typing
[16:24] <atoom_> cls
[16:28] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu is a great GNU/Linux distribution
[16:52] <Lego> hello all, i just reinstalled kubuntu 8.10 and booted to the log in screen.. and after putting my password in kde4.1 splash freezes.. so i rebooted and tried failsafe session
[16:52] <Lego> and got this error
[16:52] <Lego>  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.
[16:53] <Lego> could anyone help me?
[16:53] <Lego> im now using my intel card.. since the radeon doesn't even want to get to the log in screen
[16:53] <mefisto__> !info urpmi
[16:55] <kaddi> hi, i'm looking for an easy to use image editor.. I simply don't understand how gimp and the like work... I don't need anything fancy.. just some basic features would be great. :)
[16:55] <Lego> kedit?
[16:55] <StR|Sangreal> !kedit?
[16:55] <StR|Sangreal> !kedit
[16:56] <mefisto__> !info kolourpaint
[16:56] <Lego> does anyone have any ideas as to why i can't boot ?
[16:56] <jhutchins_wk> mefisto__: Wrong distro, I thought I was in a different channel (re:urpmi).
[16:56] <StR|Sangreal> no disk?
[16:57] <Lego> that to me?
[16:57] <mefisto__> jhutchins_wk: ok thanks. I was scratching my head about that
[16:57] <Lego> Sangreal?
[16:58] <StR|Sangreal> sorry, have no clue
[16:58] <Lego> lol, ok.. anyone ?
[16:58] <kaddi> thx, this looks to be what i was looking for @ mefisto__
[16:58] <Lego> im willing to try anything at this point.
[17:00] <Sqyber> how can i install graphics card drivers to my kubuntu 9.04 beta
[17:00] <mefisto__> Sqyber: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 support
[17:00] <kaddi> Lego have you tried login in without the gui?
[17:01] <StR|Sangreal> does your grub load?
[17:01] <Lego> yes I can ctrl alt f1 and log into a terminal
[17:02] <StR|Sangreal> and your xserver doesnt start?
[17:02] <kaddi> what happens if you try to start the xserver?
[17:02] <kaddi> after logging in
[17:03] <Lego> ok what happens is i restart the computer kdm boots i put in my password. and kde4.1 splash freezes, when i try a failsafe log in i get this error  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.
[17:03] <mefisto__> Lego: so it boots ok. X starts ok. login fails. try disabling compositing?
[17:04] <kaddi> http://forum.kde.org/-solved-xsession-unable-launch-failsafe-x-session-x-terminal-emulator-t-36445.html Lego this might be a possible answer
[17:05] <Lego> thats a bit more advance then i can understand.. this is a clean install of 8.10
[17:06] <Lego> does that matter?
[17:06] <Lego> I haven't logged in as anyone yet?
[17:07] <Lego> and only tried my created user at the kdm login .. haven't root logged in yet
[17:07] <mefisto__> Lego: have you logged in at terminal (alt-ctrl-F1) ?
[17:07] <Lego> yes
[17:07] <Lego> as created user Lego
[17:08] <Lego> after kde splash froze on me twice and failsafe crashed with that error
[17:08] <mefisto__> Lego: nano .kde/share/config/kwinrc  and look for a [compositing] section in that file
[17:09] <Lego> ok give me one sec have to reboot.
[17:09] <mefisto__> Lego: change it to Enabled=false
[17:09] <Lego> i know that kde3.5 and compiz-fusion ran fine on bsd 7.1-release
[17:11] <Lego> nothing about composite in that file.. $Version headding, Desktops , Plugins windows..
[17:12] <Lego> Plugins has Kwind4_effect_coverswitchEnabled= True,
[17:12] <Lego> nothing about composite
[17:12] <mefisto__> Lego: no [compositing] section at all?
[17:12] <Lego> nope
[17:13] <Lego> version, desktops, plugins, windows
[17:13] <Lego> should i add one ?
[17:13] <Lego> and disable it anyway?
[17:14] <mefisto__> Lego: ok try adding it. [Compositing]  and next line underneath that  Enabled=false
[17:14] <Lego> i've been having very bad luck with kubuntu.. 8.10.... it wouldnt' even load kdm on my radeon card
[17:15] <Lego> ok added that.. reboot?
[17:15] <mefisto__> Lego: ok
[17:17] <Lego> kdm put password in....Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; abortingl
[17:18] <mefisto__> Lego: try normal session, not failsafe
[17:18] <Lego> tried kde again.. splash froze after hdd loaded .. again..
[17:18] <Lego> it starts to load a yellow and white image with a bluish image biside it and freezes
[17:19] <Lego> beside*
[17:20] <Lego> it has to be kde 4.1 ... has to.. because i ran bsd with my intel and radeon card. and on the intel i could run kde3.5 and compiz... radeon won't run compiz..
[17:20] <Lego> no 3d support..
[17:20] <Lego> ok im rebooted.. and sitting at the kdm login..
[17:21] <Lego> and the radeon card won't even get me to the kdm login when i installed kubuntu last night...
[17:21] <mefisto__> Lego: you could try using the vesa driver and see if you can login to kde
[17:21] <Lego> yesterday..
[17:22] <rosco_y> what does it mean when you try to /j a channel and you get this msg:  [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel
[17:22] <Lego> whats the location of the xorg.conf?
[17:22] <Lego> to change it?
[17:22] <Lego> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[17:22] <rosco_y> it's in /usr/X11
[17:22] <rosco_y> I think
[17:23] <Dragnslcr> You can use locate to find it
[17:23] <rosco_y> or not
[17:23] <mefisto__> Lego: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where it is
[17:23] <Lego> LOL theres basically nothing in the file so im just going to add the Driver "vesa" line under video device
[17:23] <kaddi> rosco_y I don't know for sure, but I would think, that you have to identify yourself using /msg nickserv identify and your password
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> rosco_y- you have to register/identify with nickserv to join some channels
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> It helps prevent join/part spam
[17:24] <mefisto__> Lego: in the device section, put in a line    Driver "vesa"
[17:24] <Lego> yea did that.. rebooting .
[17:25] <Lego> ouch.. the spot where the splash freezes.. my screen when completely white :S
[17:26] <Lego> and just came back black with just my mouse visible
[17:27] <Lego> nothing else is loading.. LOL should i try coping my bsd xorg.conf over...
[17:27] <mefisto__> Lego: if you alt-F2 do you see a small dialog window appear?
[17:27] <Lego> oh give me a sec. to try that
[17:29] <Lego> waiting for the black screen to come back
[17:29] <Lego> no alt f2 does nothing
[17:30] <Lego> its just a black screen with my mouse
[17:30] <mefisto__> Lego: in terminal, try   killall plasma
[17:31] <Lego> ok did that
[17:31] <Lego> i did a ctrl alt f1 from the black screen, logged in and killall plasma
[17:31] <Lego> now what?
[17:32] <mefisto__> Lego: ok now I can't remember how to run something in an X display from a terminal. something like dispay=:0 plasma   does anyone know?
[17:33] <Lego> i don't have a plasma monitor does that matter?
[17:33] <mefisto__> Lego: no, plasma is a part of kde 4
[17:33] <Lego> could i try Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[17:33] <Lego> oh.. ok
[17:34] <mefisto__> Lego: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:34] <mefisto__> Lego: that will make a new xorg.conf
[17:35] <Lego> ok done
[17:35] <mefisto__> Lego: and you could also try removing or renaming .kde directory in your home dir so the whole directory is recreated when you login to KDE
[17:36] <Lego> ok lets do that.
[17:36] <Lego> cp .kde / .kdebackup ?
[17:36] <Lego> mv .kde  .kdebackup
[17:36] <mefisto__> mv
[17:37] <Lego> hehe were is my home directory ...
[17:37] <mefisto__> cd [enter] should get you back there
[17:37] <Dragnslcr> cd ~
[17:38] <Lego> ok, then ls lists, Desktop, Documents, Music, Pictures, Public, Templates, Videos
[17:38] <Lego> cd Desktop
[17:38] <Lego> ?
[17:38] <mefisto__> Lego: it's a hidden dir (starts with a . )
[17:39] <mefisto__> ls -a
[17:39] <Lego> ah ok
[17:39] <Lego> there we god :)
[17:39] <Lego> ok done
[17:39] <Lego> god = good :P
[17:39] <Lego> so startx now?
[17:40] <kaddi> oh i thought "god=go" :D
[17:40] <White_Pelican> is kde 4.2.2 availabel for Jaunty, beta 1?
[17:40] <bryan> hey
[17:40] <Lego> LOL yea that was the one :P
[17:40] <Lego> so startx now? or kdm
[17:41] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: yes. #ubuntu+1 for jaunty help
[17:41] <White_Pelican> ty
[17:41] <White_Pelican> I just saw the subject :)
[17:41] <White_Pelican> proof not everyonereads it first ;)
[17:43] <Lego> ok well im rebooting well see what happens.
[17:44] <Lego> hmm...weird.. um.. i thought the splash froze again.. but i double clicked it...
[17:45] <Lego> and well it booted to the desktop :S
[17:45] <mefisto__> ok great
[17:45] <Lego> but i can't click anything
[17:45] <mefisto__> alt-F2 ?
[17:45] <Lego> nothing
[17:46] <Lego> i can't use the terminal the post it note... menu, tray items nothing
[17:46] <mefisto__> any disk activity? it may be still creating config files in the new .kde folder
[17:47] <Lego> not that i can see
[17:47] <Lego> no flashing in the front of my tower
[17:47] <Lego> can't even ctrl alt f1-f6
[17:48] <mefisto__> Lego: can you ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X ?
[17:48] <henry_BR> there is a Identi.ca/twitter/jaiku /@kubuntu to report bugs?
[17:48] <Lego> nope
[17:48] <Lego> even ctrl alt del won't kick me out
[17:49] <Lego> so its pretty froze.. mouse moves though :P
[17:50] <Lego> so im rebooting..
[17:51] <Lego> splash froze again...
[17:51] <Lego> same place
[17:51] <Lego> lol and double clicking it this time won't work...
[17:51] <mefisto__> Lego: ctrl-alt-PrtScr R E I S U B    <-- to reboot when all else fails. that unmounts and remounts everything and avoids filesystem errors
[17:51] <mefisto__> Lego: but sometimes that doesn't work either
[17:52] <Lego> yea ctrl alt printscreen didn't work
[17:52] <Lego> but we hopefully can continue this later cuz i have to get ready for a doctors appointment..
[17:52] <mefisto__> Lego: those 3 keys, plus R, then E, then I, etc
[17:52] <mefisto__> Lego: ok later
[17:52] <Lego> hehe i don't have that many fingers :P
[17:57] <satish> asssination
[17:59] <Salsh5000> hi
[18:00] <alistrone> hi all men!
[18:00] <alistrone> or girls..
[18:00] <alistrone> lol
[18:01] <kaddi> !hi |alistrone
[18:03] <Guest29234> imtrying toi install vmware server and i got the error "
[18:03] <Guest29234> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your
[18:03] <Guest29234> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[18:03] <Guest29234> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]^[[3~yes
[18:03] <alistrone> hi
[18:03] <alistrone> i will have on my pc also the kbuntu
[18:04] <alistrone> now im using win xp
[18:05] <kaddi> alistrone what makes you want to switch? :)
[18:05] <alistrone> the words that i heard..
[18:05] <Guest29234> somebody help me with vmware server
[18:05] <amgarching> cannot find the "frontline" app in Ubuntu repositories. This was a simple interface to "autotrace" bitmap-to-vector conversion tool. Any idea?
[18:06] <kaddi> alistrone have you tried it yet? :) Do you have a Live-CD? :)
[18:06] <EagleScreen> I would like to can read ext4 from Windows
[18:08] <Guest29234> when i install vmware server i got the error Unable to build the vmmon module
[18:09] <alistrone> kaddi: no i didnt
[18:10] <EagleScreen> amgarching: frontline does not exist in Ubuntu repository, have you ever see it before?
[18:11] <EagleScreen> !frontline
[18:18] <mefisto__> !info potrace
[18:19] <mefisto__> amgarching: maybe try potrace? http://potracegui.sourceforge.net/
[18:20] <mefisto__> !info potracegui
[18:21] <amgarching> EagleScreen, mefisto__: used frontline in SuSE, I see Inkspace can do "potrace"ing but that is only B&W
[18:23] <semistud2354_> anyone know why my fedora 9 64 and jaunty 64 both hard freeze....like to the point where i have to hold the shutdown button
[18:23] <semistud2354_> im betting on it being the 64 bit part...but im not too sure how to approach this
[18:25] <kaddi> semistud2354_ first guess is always a heat problem :D
[18:25] <semistud2354_> nah...cant be
[18:25] <semistud2354_> im using i386 as we speak
[18:26] <semistud2354_> and it runs great
[18:27] <semistud2354_> anyone know how to fix
[18:28] <semistud2354_> a 64 bit freeze
[18:28] <fosco__> take a look at temps
[18:28] <semistud2354_> me?
[18:28] <fosco__> no matter if 32bits works ok or not
[18:28] <fosco__> yes
[18:28] <semistud2354_> how do i check temp
[18:28] <fosco__> lm-sensors
[18:29] <semistud2354_> is this a program
[18:29] <fosco__> it is a package
[18:29] <semistud2354_> o
[18:30] <semistud2354_> ok
[18:30] <semistud2354_> goti t
[18:30] <semistud2354_> it
[18:30] <semistud2354_> now what
[18:30] <semistud2354_> ?
[18:30] <fosco__> sudo sensors-detect to configure
[18:30] <fosco__> and sensors to see temps
[18:31] <jonathan__> hello!
[18:31] <kaddi> !hi|jonathan__
[18:31] <jonathan__> i currently try to compile libgpod to support my ipod 4g in gtkpod.
[18:31] <jonathan__> i downloaded the svn and so on, and ran the autogen.sh
[18:32] <semistud2354_> i just hit yes on everything
[18:32] <semistud2354_> which is probably bad
[18:32] <jonathan__> i installed all dependencies right now, except for one optional dependency: gdk-pixbuf
[18:32] <semistud2354_> but...i want to get down to what the problem is
[18:32] <semistud2354_> lol
[18:32] <semistud2354_> now what
[18:32] <fosco__> yes to all is ok
[18:32] <nathan7> =p
[18:33] <fosco__> reboot or sudo modprobe the modules it told you
[18:33] <fosco__> after that type sensors to check temps
[18:33] <jonathan__> or let me say i installed it, but it doesn't affect the config process: It still tells me that artwork support is disabled.
[18:33] <jonathan__> fosco__: Why should i reboot my pc?
[18:33] <fosco__> jonathan__, sorry, i'm speaking to semistud2354_
[18:33] <semistud2354_> core0 temp
[18:33] <semistud2354_> k8temp-pci-00c3
[18:33] <semistud2354_> Adapter: PCI adapter
[18:33] <semistud2354_> Core0 Temp:  +50.0°C
[18:34] <nathan7> GAH
[18:34] <semistud2354_> thats what i got?
[18:34] <nathan7> Stop highlighting me!
[18:34] <nathan7> =p
[18:34] <fosco__> semistud2354_, did you load the modules?
[18:34] <jonathan__> hm no ideas about the gdk-pixbuf problem?
[18:35] <semistud2354_> i think i did
[18:36] <fosco__> so, that's all
[18:36] <fosco__> run the 64bits distro and keep an eye on sensors
[18:36] <semistud2354_> would anything be in the log...just before it crashes?
[18:37] <fosco__> maybe
[18:38] <semistud2354_> also its not able to suspend
[18:38] <semistud2354_> man...what are they doing to this kernel
[18:38] <semistud2354_> it freezes...it cant suspend...
[18:40] <semistud2354_> who's to blame ubuntu or the kernel team
[18:41] <semistud2354_> lol
[18:43] <josh-l> how do i make an application always open on desktop2 ?
[18:45] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way I can back up my system configuration?
[18:45] <fosco__> |PaperTiger|, exactly what
[18:46] <|PaperTiger|> fosco__, like the whole config. Grahpics setups, custom set controls
[18:46] <fosco__> make full backup
[18:46] <|PaperTiger|> Simplest way?
[18:46] <|PaperTiger|> What would you suggest I use to do that?
[18:47] <fosco__> many many ways
[18:48] <fosco__> try sbackup
[18:51] <semistud2354_> 2 questions...is it possible to get a deb of the newest kernel.... and 2....does compiling your own kernel make you system run better?
[18:51] <semistud2354_> your*
[18:52] <nathan7> semistud2354_: No * 2
[18:53] <semistud2354_> so is that a yes or no?
[18:53] <trappist> compiling your own kernel *with more appropriate options for your system than the defaults* *might* make it run better
[18:54] <semistud2354_> ok...ive used linux for 2 / 3 years now
[18:54] <semistud2354_> but never did any kernel compileing
[18:54] <semistud2354_> is it easy?
[18:55] <trappist> semistud2354_: it might be worth messing with for educational purposes, but after 10 years and a zillion kernel compiles, I'm perfectly happy to use the distro kernel
[18:55] <semistud2354_> i was reading that theres like hundreds of options
[18:56] <semistud2354_> that you have to decide wether you want on or not
[18:56] <trappist> I'm pretty sure it's actually in the thousands
[18:56] <semistud2354_> O MAN!
[18:57] <susbwoy> semistud2354_:  but it's ok, they are grouped! so it's easy to turn things like USB off
[18:57] <trappist> you'll learn a lot about your system, and linux, and computers in general, going through each option and doing the legwork to figure out what you want, but it'll take a very long time, and when you're done even if you do it right and end up with a usable kernel, you almost certainly will not see a noticeable improvement
[18:57] <semistud2354_> dont they just offer .debs...
[18:57] <semistud2354_> lol of newer kernels
[18:58] <trappist> newer than what?
[18:59] <kendrick> so why so many KDE package updates all of a sudden? :)
[19:00] <trappist> they usually happen in clumps due to dependencies - you update this library, and this pile of apps have a dependency on this lib, so they all have to be rebuilt
[19:00] <semistud2354_> like...the newest kernel is like 2.6.29
[19:00] <semistud2354_> is there a deb for that
[19:00] <kendrick> trappist: was that directed to me? :)
[19:01] <trappist> kendrick: yeah
[19:01] <kendrick> heh ok
[19:01] <kendrick> so when you say "you update this lib", you mean "you"=="kubuntu devs"
[19:01] <trappist> semistud2354_: that comes from kernel.org, which no, does not produce debs at all, ever.  ubuntu kernel packages are *based* on those, but as far as I know there's nobody making fresh debs of kernel.org kernels when they come out.
[19:01] <trappist> kendrick: right
[19:02] <kendrick> ok
[19:02] <semistud2354_> WHAT ABOUT...is there a way to UPGRADE...an existing kernel
[19:02] <kendrick> i was just surprised to see _116MB_ of updates... and no new official [k]ubuntu release yet ;)
[19:03] <semistud2354_> 2.6.24-23 is what i have now...
[19:03] <trappist> semistud2354_: you basically have two options.  start down the long road of learning how to deal with getting/patching/configuring/building your own kernels, or the much shorter road of learning to live with the kernel your distro gives you :)
[19:03] <semistud2354_> but i wonder if it's possible to update that to the newest 2.6.29
[19:03] <kendrick> backports FTW!
[19:03] <semistud2354_> crap
[19:04] <trappist> semistud2354_: why
[19:04] <semistud2354_> cuz the config is already created
[19:04] <semistud2354_> unless i print it out and use that as a guide
[19:04] <semistud2354_> to compile a new kernel
[19:04] <trappist> why do you want a new kernel
[19:05] <semistud2354_> i dunno...perhaps it will run better
[19:05] <trappist> not likely
[19:05] <semistud2354_> i was told i could use this command linux-image-686
[19:05] <trappist> it might be worth the effort for what you'll learn, but not for the effect it'll have on your system
[19:05] <semistud2354_> which i used...
[19:05] <semistud2354_> and it updated something
[19:06] <semistud2354_> not sure it helped any
[19:06] <|PaperTiger|> fosco__, what is sbackup like?
[19:06]  * kendrick wanders off to enjoy whatever new kde junk is being pulled down :)
[19:07] <kendrick> cya
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> is there any themes for ktorrent web interface anywhere
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> or how to edit the current ones
[19:17] <david_> what is the preferred gui disk partitioning tool for kubuntu?
[19:17] <mefisto__> gparted or qtparted
[19:17] <kaddi> gparted I would think
[19:19] <david_> it looks like qtparted isn't available in jaunty...I assumed gparted was the best, but didn't know if there was a qt/kde based tool
[19:25] <fosco__> |PaperTiger|, http://maketecheasier.com/backing-up-data-in-ubuntu-using-sbackup/2007/12/08
[19:26] <fosco__> semistud2354_, IMO compiling the kernel is only usefull for learning purposes, no speedup at all
[19:27] <semistud2354_> im not looking for speed
[19:27] <fosco__> ok
[19:27] <semistud2354_> my jaunty distro freezes on me...
[19:27] <semistud2354_> and im betting on it being the kernel
[19:27] <fosco__> then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[19:28] <semistud2354_> so i was asking if i compiled it if there is a good chance that it wouldnt freeze anymore
[19:29] <douglett> arrrrrrrrrrrgh
[19:29] <douglett> so i have kubuntu 8.04.2
[19:30] <douglett> and despite visited several sites and trying several different things I cannot get dvd playback to work for the life of me
[19:31] <privato> hello
[19:32] <kaddi> !hi |privato
[19:32] <|PaperTiger|> fosco__, thanks
[19:33] <douglett> any suggestions?
[19:34] <fosco__> douglett, take a look on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:34] <|PaperTiger|> fosco__, what mediums can you back up to?
[19:34] <douglett> i did, before i said anything
[19:34] <fosco__> |PaperTiger|, anything you can mount
[19:34] <douglett> and i tried those commands and still had no luck
[19:34] <|PaperTiger|> fosco__, okay. Thanks
[19:35] <privato> CIAO
[19:36] <kaddi> douglett what have you tried so far? did you consult those links:
[19:36] <kaddi> !codecs
[19:37] <puddle> hi all
[19:37] <kaddi> have you added the medibuntu repository to your sources.list and installed libdvdcss2?
[19:38] <kaddi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[19:39] <douglett> !codecs
[19:39] <douglett> yes
[19:39] <semistud2354_> !hi
[19:39] <douglett> shall i paste the 3 different sites i've visited and tried the commands for?
[19:40] <semistud2354_> !kernel
[19:40] <douglett> the latest being the restrictedformats site mentioned in ur FAQ page
[19:41] <semistud2354_> I THINK I FOUND SOMETHING...
[19:41] <semistud2354_> do the newer kernels have smb enabled
[19:41] <semistud2354_> it says that smb is for multi cores
[19:41] <semistud2354_> i dont have that...i just have a single 64 bit core
[19:41] <semistud2354_> perhaps...that is why it is freezing
[19:42] <semistud2354_> could that be?
[19:42] <fosco__> smb? this is samba
[19:42] <douglett> anyone? i've done these steps and everytime i go to open kaffeine i get the same message asking me to run a script i've run a thousand times before
[19:42] <semistud2354_> oop
[19:42] <semistud2354_> i ment smp
[19:43] <fosco__> smp is used when available, and not used on single cpu machines
[19:43] <fosco__> do not care about that
[19:43] <StR|Sangreal> !jaunty
[19:46] <kaddi> douglett: the medibuntu advice was also for you. But I fear if you've tried this, I don't know whats wrong. that was what worked for me
[19:47] <Guest29234> im trying to run vmware from firefox i typed http:\\127.0.0.1:8333 i got the error 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC
[19:48] <Guest29234> and some times Data Transfer Interrupted
[19:48] <Guest29234> how to solve this
[19:48] <douglett> could it have anything to do with using the generic nvidia drivers?
[19:49] <Rythan> Guest29234 Try https://
[19:50] <douglett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/143008/
[19:51] <douglett> that's what i get when i use:    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get updat
[19:51] <douglett> e
[19:58] <g01p> hi
[19:58] <kaddi> douglett: your paste is somehow broken, but it seems, that the repository should be installed
[19:58] <kaddi> douglett: what is the output on apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[19:59] <douglett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/143012/
[19:59] <douglett> hang on
[20:00] <douglett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/143013/
[20:01] <Guest29234> it use remote console connection 902 when i try http with 8222 or https with 8333 i got Failed to Connect itried  to change the remote console connection  to 8333 i got the error that i told before
[20:02] <Guest29234> Rythan: it use remote console connection 902 when i try http with 8222 or https with 8333 i got Failed to Connect itried  to change the remote console connection  to 8333 i got the error that i told before
[20:05] <kaddi> douglett the only other thing I could think about is that you are missing the codecs, but I assume you installed them as well... :/ I'm sorry I can't really be of more help
[20:06] <douglett> would it help to know i'm using the 64 bit version?
[20:07] <kaddi> yeah it means, I'm in way over my head ;)
[20:08] <kaddi> I suppose you would have to install the w64codecs and not w32 in that case...
[20:09] <|PaperTiger|> Does anyone here use the program Picaxe?
[20:09] <Guest29234> now the remote console connection port is 902 the defoult value when i try https://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8222 or https://127.0.0.1:8222  i got faild to connect but when i type https://127.0.0.1:902 i got 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC
[20:09] <idinvalid> g
[20:10] <douglett> kaddi: i did this
[20:16] <Guest29234>  now the remote console connection port is 902 the defoult value when i try https://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8333/ or http://127.0.0.1:8222 or https://127.0.0.1:8222  i got faild to connect but when i type https://127.0.0.1:902 i got 220 VMware Authentication Daemon Version 1.10: SSL Required, MKSDisplayProtocol:VNC
[20:17] <kaddi> douglett: is libdvdread3 installed on your system? (Do apt-cache policy libdvdread3 to see which version is installed)
[20:20] <anga78> kubuntu
[20:20] <kaddi> douglett: Have you tried opening the DVD with dolphin and starting the file from dolphin?
[20:21] <|PaperTiger|> Doesn't anyone know how well the program Picaxe works on Linux?
[20:21] <douglett> kaddi: yes, Installed: 0.9.7-8ubuntu1
[20:22] <douglett> and no, not from dolphin
[20:23] <kaddi> douglett: try, I've read several reports, that there is a problem with kaffeine for starting dvds, but that it works fine, when the film is started via dolphin
[20:23] <douglett> hmm
[20:23] <kaddi> maybe we got lucky and this is the solution :D
[20:23] <douglett> that's interesting
[20:23] <douglett> it sorta worked
[20:24] <douglett> which video file am i suppose to be openning?
[20:24] <douglett> i right clicked on the dvd in dolphin and went to open with kaffeine
[20:24] <douglett> and it opened kaffeine and showed a bunch of madness
[20:24] <jamesjedimaster> vob files are for dvd's
[20:24] <douglett> one of which was the fbi warning
[20:25] <alexander_> бля, где я?
[20:25] <kaddi> douglett: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094316 i got that from this thread: sometimes kaffeine seems to look in the wrong place for the dvd and throws this kind of errors
[20:26] <douglett> kaddi: this article looks very promising
[20:27] <Lego> mefisto__, are you still around
[20:28] <kaddi> what they said is that you have to check your dvd-load point: kaffeine ->settings->xine parameters ->media and check that the device listed as dvd.device corresponds to the place where your dvd actually is :)
[20:28] <LjL> !ru | alexander_
[20:29] <douglett> touche
[20:29] <Lego> im ready to continue trouble shooting. just got home from the doctors
[20:30] <douglett> HAHA
[20:30] <douglett> bloody hell it seems to be working
[20:30] <kaddi> great :)
[20:31] <douglett> well that's really depressing
[20:31] <kaddi> why?
[20:31] <douglett> 3.5 hours wasted for a simple parameter
[20:31] <jonathan__> hello! can anyone tell me how to connect two mp4 videos to one? i didn't find anything with google...
[20:32] <kaddi> no, not wasted.. i'm sure you learned a LOT about restricted formats, repositories and all kind of linux stuff alon the way ;) ( I sure did ;) )
[20:32] <jamesjedimaster> jonathan__: kdenlive
[20:32] <Lego> hehe would you like to help me now kaddi?
[20:33] <Lego> mefisto__ doesn't seem to be around right now
[20:33] <jonathan__> hm i can't export to mp4 format in kdenlive
[20:33] <kaddi> Lego I think I already tried to help you and failed miserably... :D I was looking forward to learning something by wathcing what mefisto__ would have done :D
[20:34] <douglett> yes, i was cursing and frolicking all along that fun 3+ hour adventure
[20:34] <Lego> ah i see :P
[20:34] <douglett> i think i'll go hit myself in the head with a hammer now
[20:34] <jamesjedimaster> jonathan__: perhaps you have to convert them to mpeg before with mobile media converter
[20:34] <douglett> thanks for the help!
[20:35] <kaddi> douglett you're welcome :)
[20:35] <jonathan__> hm i used ffmpeg to convert them to mp4. it's a film split in two parts, both are mp4 now. i just want to append video 2 at video 1. no convertig.
[20:35] <Lego> were you helping me before or after the re-install and changeover to the intel card?
[20:36] <kaddi> woah... I asked you some question about 2 hours ago until you went for the doctors
[20:36] <Lego> i've talked to so many people on so many channels the last few days i forgot who i've spoken to but i remembered to highlight mefisto name on the right column :P
[20:36] <jamesjedimaster> that's what i do to edit 3gp videos, perhaps you may find one-step solution
[20:36] <kaddi> is this a completely fresh install? Have you logged in successfully once on that account?
[20:36] <Lego> so i have to appologize :(
[20:36] <Lego> in kdm no
[20:38] <Lego> i can ctrl alt f1 and use the system fine so far, except the wifi issues, but kdm boots but kde splash screen freezes and go no further
[20:38] <Lego> goes*
[20:39] <douglett> kaddi: how could a fellow programmer go about making the code suggestion to fix this for the 64bit ubuntu users of the world?
[20:39] <kaddi> I was thinking you might try to create a new account and see if you could log into that one.
[20:39] <Lego> hmm.. how do i do that ?
[20:39] <Lego> i need to be in a terminal, correct
[20:39] <camilla> i'm trying to install a printer, canon pixma mp130 and i need to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list but it does not work. ideas, anyone?
[20:39] <kaddi> you log into your account in terminal, yes
[20:39] <janvi> Hello. How is it about nvidia geforce 8200 support in Jaunty?
[20:39] <kaddi> and type sudo adduser <username>
[20:40] <Lego> ok done
[20:40] <kaddi> log out and see if you can log on with the new user
[20:41] <Lego> it didn't ask me to put a password for that user though
[20:41] <kaddi> it didn't? odd, it should have
[20:42] <Lego> sudo adduser Joe, then it asked for the sudo password then spit out some information
[20:42] <Lego> i'll try again
[20:42] <kaddi> douglett: i don't really know. launchpad.net ist the bugtracker for ubuntu bugs, maybe you'll find some info there
[20:43] <kaddi> (you could probably always see if a bugreport had been filed for that problem and register and add the solution to it)
[20:43] <kaddi> Lego: what was the last line, that was spit out?
[20:43] <Lego> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM] configuration variable.  and it has more info
[20:44] <Lego> Use the '--force-badname' option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX or NAME_REGEX_SYSTEM.
[20:44] <Lego> HA! had to remove the J for a j
[20:45] <kaddi> :)
[20:45] <Lego> ok seems good
[20:45] <douglett> i'd hate for some poor bastard to just go through what i went through
[20:45] <Lego> ok i logged in a joe
[20:45] <douglett> i'll look into this
[20:45] <kaddi> would be great :)
[20:45] <bittin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090402  if somone cares
[20:46] <kaddi> Lego: does it work?
[20:46] <Lego> ctrl/alt/f7 ctrl/alt/backspace selected joe, password, froze in the same spot
[20:47] <kaddi> :(
[20:47] <Lego> right after the hdd loads on the splash right before the next (yellow and white item) fully appears
[20:47] <kaddi> well i suppose that means, the problem isn't with your userprofile :/
[20:47] <Lego> yup
[20:48] <Lego> mind you what are the next two items to load after the hdd?
[20:49] <jussi01> does anyone know a qt equivalent to gmpc?
[20:49] <janvi> Is there issues related to Jaunty and nvidia geforce 8200?
[20:51] <Lego> still there kaddi?
[20:52] <kaddi> Lego: im still there, but don't really know what else to suggest
[20:53] <kaddi> Lego: i don't even know what would be loaded after the disk
[20:53] <Lego> do you know what the next to items are ?
[20:53] <Lego> what do the pictures look like what you boot kde?
[20:53] <slow-motion> hi
[20:53] <kaddi> lego: i think it should be the windowmanager
[20:54] <kaddi> lego: followed by the displaymanager
[20:54] <Lego> which is why it crashes... cuz the card can't handle kde4.1 maybe..
[20:55] <Lego> i wish we could get the wifi running.. and istall something small like twm and see if atleast that works..
[21:02] <kaddi> Lego: have you tried starting kwin/kdm/x from the terminal, to see which one crashes?
[21:04] <Lego> what do you mean?
[21:05] <Lego> you mean like type kwin from a terminal?
[21:05] <kaddi> yeah, something like that... i'm looking for the proper commands right now, but I'm not sure i found them
[21:05] <Lego> ok
[21:06] <Lego> but i would need to stop my computer from automatically boot kdm when it boots first..
[21:06] <kaddi> don't do that. :p I'm still trying to figure out how to get it restarted without booting :p
[21:08] <Lego> well it when freezes nothing works bu the reset button :)
[21:08] <Lego> well when it * geez i can't type today
[21:08] <Lego> but*
[21:10] <kaddi> what happened when you typed startx from a terminal? (you did do that earlier on, didn't you=
[21:10] <kaddi> ?)
[21:11] <Lego> yes. Fatal Server error: Server is already active for display ) .. if this erver is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X)-lock and start again. ... . xinit: Server error.
[21:11] <Lego> but thats because i use ctrl alt f1 to get to the terminal from kdm
[21:12] <Lego> display 0
[21:13] <Lego> .X0 ... geezus..
[21:18] <Lego> its gotta be xorg 7.4 and kde4.1... nothing else could explain it.. because isn't kdm is 3.5's kdm
[21:19] <kaddi> lego: i'm sorry i really don't have a clue what could be the problem and where to look for a solution
[21:19] <Lego> me either :P
[21:20] <Lego> well maybe I'll wait for mefisto__ see what else he can come up with.. and I'
[21:20] <Lego> I'll download 8.04 tonight
[21:21] <Lego> like i said i could get xorg 7.4 installed properly on bsd either, it wouldn't install the xorg 7.4 drivers.. they were marked as skip, which could be the case here were it just want the 7.3 drivers..
[21:22] <Lego> and after forcing them.. x crashed
[21:22] <Lego> over and over
[21:23] <Lego> lol forget it i just started the 8.04 download :P
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[21:24] <Lego> i see.... well nice to see your an artist.
[21:33] <Idhan> is there any download manager for kubuntu?
[21:34] <p_quarles> Idhan: kget
[21:36] <Guest29234> anyone could help me with vmware]
[21:41] <Idhan> p_quarles: kget speed up the downloads by multiple instances for a single file?
[21:43] <noaXess> i'm searching for a task/time/cost management software... tried gantproject, kplato, ktimetracker, taskjuggler... but no of them fit's what i need..
[21:43] <noaXess> any idea about other solutions?
[21:44] <x_link> Hi
[21:44] <thebe> Hi
[21:44] <thebe> how to install tar.Z file
[21:44] <x_link> What's the shortcut command to change desktop in KDE4?
[21:46] <magical> דפים מישראל
[21:46] <x_link> Anybody?
[21:46] <larsemil> whats the shortkey to switch desktop?
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> noaXess: karm?
[21:48] <jhutchins_wk> larsemil: from what to what?
[21:48] <noaXess> !info karm
[21:49] <thebe> could you tell me how to install tar.z file
[21:49] <noaXess> jhutchins_wk: doesnt exist in intrepid.. just KAlarm
[21:49] <thebe> I would be grateful to have your answer for me
[21:49] <noaXess> !info kalarm
[21:49] <larsemil> jhutchins_wk: like ctrl + alt + left in gnome
[21:49] <noaXess> not what i need
[21:49] <Dragnslcr> thebe- however the place you downloaded it from tells you to
[21:49] <thebe> Drangslcr
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> thebe- tar.z is just a compressed archive of files
[21:50] <thebe> thanks but I am new user and I have to know detail
[21:50] <thebe> is it the same way as we do for tar.gz??
[21:50] <noaXess> what i'm searching, a tool to log all my tasks in a given project: a name, description, date, time, duration, costs per hour... then i can make a report of this for my customer..
[21:50] <Dragnslcr> You can try opening it with Ark
[21:51] <yoritomo> good evening all
[21:51] <Dragnslcr> I can't remember offhand which compression program uses .Z
[21:52] <noaXess> i also tried ktimetracker but there i can't have a description or costs per hour
[21:52] <thebe> okay
[21:52] <thebe> I am trying myself too in google
[21:52] <thebe> but it is quite easier if i get solution in chat
[21:53] <elliottm> sorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff
[21:54] <larsemil> no way to quickly change between desktops?
[21:55] <thebe> Dragnslcr
[21:55] <thebe> I need your help!
[21:55] <Unksi> larsemil: i have it so that i just move the cursor over the edge of the monitor and that changes the desktop
[21:55] <Unksi> takes a little time to get used to but is a lot more convenient than hotkeys after a while
[21:55] <thebe> I am trying to download apache server but I don know which file I need to download from mirror site
[21:56] <thebe> could you tell me how to make it
[21:56] <Dragnslcr> larsemil- you can set it to whatever you want in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[21:56] <Unksi> thebe: why dont you just do sudo apt-get install apache2 ?
[21:56] <Dragnslcr> thebe- why not just install it from the repository?
[21:57] <thebe> I will try but I want to learn about mirror image
[21:57] <Dragnslcr> Mirror image?
[21:58] <thebe> because there are  several folders and I don know where i get the required file
[21:58] <Unksi> which file?
[21:58] <thebe> i mean mirror site
[21:58] <thebe> installation file
[21:59] <Dragnslcr> Apache is in the Ubuntu repository
[21:59] <Unksi> just open up adept and install it from there?
[21:59] <larsemil> any chance of setting the desktops to be on one row instead of two on two rows
[21:59] <Dragnslcr> It's a lot easier to install from there
[21:59] <Dragnslcr> And the package manager will handle updates for you
[21:59] <Unksi> larsemil: the easiest way to change that is from the pager widget from your panel
[21:59] <larsemil> found it
[21:59] <larsemil> thanks
[22:00] <Unksi> youre welcome
[22:00] <larsemil> last question for now. as i get a message in kopete i click "show" and it does not show any message, nothing happens
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> larsemil- what version of KDE?
[22:01] <Unksi> larsemil: if i remember right, thats a bug in 4.1.. someone correct me if im wrong :)
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> And you should be able to click the animated Kopete icon to open new messages
[22:01] <Dragnslcr> Unksi- yeah, that's why I asked what version
[22:01] <larsemil> Dragnslcr: 4.2
[22:01] <thebe> its okay now
[22:01] <thebe> i did it from repository
[22:02] <larsemil> also my bash auto completions is totaly fked
[22:02] <thebe> thanks for all of you
[22:03] <slow-motion> n8
[22:11] <Edulix> ok
[22:11] <Edulix> hi!
[22:11] <elliottm> sorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff
[22:15] <lex> elliottm: are you in group audio?
[22:15] <elliottm> yep
[22:15] <elliottm> nothing in dmesg about it
[22:15] <lamer> abend
[22:16] <elliottm> and sound works in windows, so i know it's a software problem
[22:17] <coreyman> Can I get help installing ventrilo under wine.
[22:17] <lex> tried to aplay something?
[22:18] <coreyman> ?
[22:19] <aga> evening
[22:19] <coreyman> evening
[22:19] <lex> night
[22:19] <aga> yeah rex you're right... night here as well
[22:19] <elliottm> lex: I ran aplay with a song, it hasn't reaised any errors but I can't hear it
[22:20] <lex> elliottm: are you sure about your mixer?
[22:20] <elliottm> sure about what?
[22:20] <lex> recheck that Master and PCM are turned on
[22:21] <lex> and the level are high enough
[22:21] <elliottm> when I put master ans PCM to the highest i hear static
[22:23] <elliottm> aplay is still running, and it either isn't playing or i can't hear it over the static
[22:23] <lex> elliottm: aplay doesn't know about mp3s and ogg
[22:24] <lex> if you hear static the problem should be solved )
[22:24] <lex> try playing anything with your favourite player
[22:24] <thumper> morning people
[22:25] <thumper> my /usr/bin/plasma is using 100% of one of my CPUs
[22:25] <thumper> what can I do about that?
[22:25] <lex> thumper: kquitapp plasma && plasma
[22:25] <larsemil> how do i get my rss adress from konqueror to my plasmoid feed viewer?
[22:26] <lex> elliottm: so how is it?
[22:27] <thumper> lex: ok, that worked, now any idea how to diagnose what went wrong?
[22:27] <elliottm> fine
[22:27] <elliottm> but i didn't touch any of those sliders
[22:27] <elliottm> beforehand, i mean
[22:27] <elliottm> it just stopped working
[22:27] <elliottm> or i guess i should say the volume just went down or something
[22:28] <lex> elliottm: that kind of things happen on upgrades
[22:28] <lex> thumper: no idea, you may want to report a bug or somethng
[22:28] <aga> tried killing and restarting plasma thumper?
[22:29] <thumper> aga: just did, and that fixed it
[22:29] <aga> :) nice
[22:30] <josh-l> something in kde is crashing and causing kde to lock up... is there a log somewhere i can check to find out what it is??
[22:38] <aga> g'night
[22:43] <draik_> What is the interface on my wireless card?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> josh-l: dmesg will help you
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> draik_: run  ifconfig
[22:44] <draik_> ActionParsnip: There is no mention of an interface :(
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> draik_: look for wifi0 or ath0
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> draik_: those are common
[22:45] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I have eth0 and lo, however, none of those seemed to work when I did "ifconfig down eth0"
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> draik_: then the device isnt in there. try  sudo lshw -C network
[22:46] <draik_> lshw command not found
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> draik_: ell ess aych double yew
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> draik_: lshw
[22:47] <draik_> Uh huh... LOL
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> does that work?
[22:48] <draik_> -bash: lshw: command not found
[22:48] <p_quarles> hey, so does the character selector plasmoid only offer basic latin characters? or am I missing some obvious step for getting extended latin characters to show in there?
[22:49] <demmon> how can i delete a folder with the konsole
[22:49] <draik_> demmon: rm -rf <foldername>
[22:49] <demmon> and the path right
[22:49] <draik_> Yep
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> draik_: weird
[22:50] <draik_> Well, the path if you're not in the parent directory of the folder you will be removing
[22:50] <p_quarles> but be careful with rm; it's one of those commands that can kill you if you get the argument wrong
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> draik_: sudo apt-get install lshw
[22:53] <draik_> ActionParsnip: The syntax of the command I was trying to run was incorrect (backwards). All good now
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> draik_: nice
[22:55] <draik_> I saw the command "ifconfig down <interface>" and thought something wrong, but figured, 'what do I know?'... I guess I do know ;)
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> it will need sudo for ifdown
[22:57] <jahr> copycatz pres. P.SIX vs GURU JOSH PROJECT - LET ME KNOW (INFINITY)
[22:57] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I'm root
[22:57] <draik_> ActionParsnip: well, su for the mean time
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> draik_: su isnt advised, sudo -i is to be used
[23:00] <spezi> hey, i'm using hardy and dolphin is showing some weird numbers on my / and /home partitions since i grew them with gparted: it says that size is 57,6GB, however there are 180.4GB of 250GB used.. so about 70GB used. where are the missing 57GB gone?
[23:00] <spezi> *17
[23:00] <demmon> where are Software Sources on kubuntu?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> spezi: is it formatted ext3?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> demmon: k menu -> system   i believe
[23:02] <spezi> ActionParsnip: yes, it is
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> spezi: then you have to sacrifice ~10% to the journal of ext3
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> spezi: if you format it ext2 you'll get it back but you will not get the benefits of the journal
[23:06] <spezi> ActionParsnip: ah yeah, forgot about that... :/
[23:08] <demmon> can any body tell me how to mount a cd
[23:08] <demmon> iso that is
[23:08] <rickest> demmon: in KDE it should happen automatically
[23:08] <Tm_T> !iso
[23:09] <rickest> demmon: oh, mount -o loop file.iso
[23:09] <rickest> demmon: oh, mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/somewhere
[23:09] <Tm_T> rickest: + sudo typically
[23:14] <victim> hi, how do I get kde 4.2.2 on Intrepid?
[23:19] <spezi> so, does the ext3 journal have a quite fixed size or does it depend on the space used on the partition?
[23:19] <Tm_T> latter
[23:19] <Tm_T> typically atleast
[23:35] <Lego> mefisto you around yet?
[23:50] <draik_> ActionParsnip: Sorry, focused on the laptop. Yeah, I meant sudo -i. su was in reference to the account (Super User)
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> draik_: good lad
[23:52] <kaddi> can anyone name me a widget which would be similar to the taskmanager, showing me all started applications and the amoiunt of cpu & ram the use?
[23:55] <xavier_> ola