[17:32] prepare to be very, very afraid ... I got XenArm working on the babbage [17:51] what is XenARM? port of Xen to ARM? [18:01] Yep! [18:01] It was done for cellphones, but it works absolutely great on any arm9 or arm11 variant [18:02] although I need to work on some of the hardware abstractions [18:03] Martyn: terrifying but absolutely neat [18:07] *shudder* [18:11] amitk : It's useful. Arm clock rates are going nowhere but up, arm CORES are going nowhere but up [18:12] amitk : Hypervisors did exist without CPU support for a long time ... this may be something that gets ARM to add virtualization support into the ARM soft core [18:22] Martyn: I can see it being useful (e.g. to run the telephony stack in a vm on a phone), but xen is complex [18:23] * NCommander notes we could jut run QEMU in on a xen-amd64 host :-) [19:11] Martyn: Well that's highly interesting to us; we'd have use of that for virtual builds [19:11] NCommander: That was the plan [19:11] lool, it was? [19:11] Cool! [19:46] Well, I'm having a few problems right now with the abstraction of the bus that has the network controller on it [19:46] so, for the moment I can -run- the arm Xen hypervisor, but only communicate through serial [19:46] and don't even have the ghost of a whisper of a chance of getting graphics up