| directhex | ooh, may presents many opportunities for keysigning. how enormously exciting | 00:08 |
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| YokoZar | haha so this page is rather inflated by the 100+ instances of "awkward punctuation in "about Ubuntu" docs" filed against every package http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/jaunty-fixes-report.html | 00:11 |
| YokoZar | actually that might just be launchpad vomitting | 00:12 |
| directhex | oh dear. madwifi no longer works on the acer aspire one in jaunty | 00:16 |
| maxb | Did it work in Intrepid? | 00:18 |
| maxb | I didn't think so. | 00:18 |
| directhex | yeah, it did | 00:22 |
| directhex | ath5k is also busted | 00:22 |
| maxb | ath5k WJFFM | 00:24 |
| maxb | madwifi very definitely *doesn't* work on Intrepid for me | 00:24 |
| maxb | (Well, a new enough snapshot from upstream does, but not the l-r-m one) | 00:24 |
| directhex | hm, wiki suggests blacklisting a module | 00:25 |
| directhex | that did the trick | 00:26 |
| maxb | which module? | 00:30 |
| directhex | acer_wmi | 00:31 |
| directhex | completely breaks ath5k | 00:31 |
| dtchen | directhex: see http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee830266b8f7780717796fea891ae35fe48c2fdf | 00:42 |
| directhex | dtchen, oh, neat. will that make it into the kernel that ships on jaunty (or into backports-modules)? | 00:44 |
| dtchen | directhex: probably into jaunty proper | 00:44 |
| directhex | afaik that would leave only hotplugging woe with the card reader as a "big" AA1 glitch | 00:45 |
| directhex | hm, fan seems to be not spinning, that was an annoyance in intrepid | 00:48 |
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| maxb | Hmm, I just used requestsync, but it subscribed ubuntu-release, not ubuntu-main-sponsors, despite the fact I used -s and am not a core-dev | 02:54 |
| maxb | that's a bug? | 02:54 |
| neatojones | Hello. I'm running Jaunty with latest updates and can't get the kernel module "loop" to load. It doesn't appear to be in the kernel modules. Does anyone know where I could get this for Jaunty? | 03:20 |
| neatojones | I was expecting the module to be in /lib/modules/2.6.28-7-generic/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko | 03:20 |
| dtchen | neatojones: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y | 03:25 |
| neatojones | So, I need to recompile the kernel with that? | 03:25 |
| maxb | No, it means it's builtin | 03:25 |
| dtchen | neatojones: no, it's compiled in now and hence not a module. | 03:25 |
| maxb | 2.6.28-7-generic is far away from the latest updates, btw | 03:26 |
| neatojones | oh. So, just run that command? | 03:26 |
| dtchen | it was changed in 2.6.28-4.5 | 03:26 |
| dtchen | it's not a command; it's from the kernel configuration | 03:26 |
| dtchen | i.e., you don't need to modprobe loop. it's already loaded. | 03:27 |
| neatojones | thanks | 03:28 |
| neatojones | I keep getting errors sayign that it isn't loaded | 03:28 |
| neatojones | which is why I thought I needed to load it. | 03:28 |
| neatojones | ...but no wonder modprobe wasn't working :) | 03:29 |
| neatojones | My script is returning this error: raise OSError("Error loading kernel module %s" % (mod,)) | 03:30 |
| neatojones | oops...wrong part. | 03:30 |
| neatojones | OSError: Error loading kernel module loop | 03:30 |
| neatojones | maxb-sorry. I misspoke on that :( I do have the new kernel. | 03:33 |
| doctormo | Hey guys, I'm looking for translation tools for svg files. | 03:34 |
| johanbr | doctormo: I'd be surprised if such a thing exists. | 03:38 |
| johanbr | You can always make a script that replaces <text> tags in the svg file, I guess. | 03:38 |
| doctormo | johanbr: Er, I'm after something that uses switch tags and languageSetting attributes propperly. svg does support i18n, just getting those into the launchpad translations is hard. | 03:39 |
| johanbr | doctormo: oh, I see | 03:47 |
| doctormo | johanbr: indeed, infact editing language specific text works in inkscape, it's just a matter of being able to generate a pot file and then recombine the po files back into the svg. | 03:48 |
| dtchen | directhex: yes, the fix is available in -11.39-generic | 05:56 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:07 |
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| mrsteveman1 | is functionality similar to delta rpms available in deb based systems like ubuntu, is such functionality planned, or is it not worth the potential problems it may cause? | 06:15 |
| StevenK | mrsteveman1: Such as 'debdiff' ? | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | StevenK: I think mrsteveman1 mean binary (.deb) diffs, like for -updates | 06:47 |
| StevenK | Oh, so you only download the differences? Ick. | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | that's how openSUSE does updates as an example | 06:49 |
| mrsteveman1 | does that just make things more difficult? | 07:05 |
| mrsteveman1 | i imagine there are moderate bandwidth gains to be had | 07:05 |
| mrsteveman1 | and lower costs for repo hosts | 07:06 |
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| YokoZar | mrsteveman1: lower bandwidth costs, higher storage costs (especially when you start storing large deltas) | 07:53 |
| YokoZar | or rather large numbers of deltas | 07:54 |
| pitti | Good morning | 08:07 |
| pitti | calc: 348667> I'll look | 08:08 |
| pitti | calc: hm, seems it didn't work well last time, so another retracing won't gain much, I'm afraid | 08:23 |
| pitti | calc: it could be done manually with a few more debug symbols etc., but that's hard work | 08:23 |
| pitti | I hope that this bzr branch & rosetta marriage in LP wasn't just an April's fool, this sounds like a great feature | 08:31 |
| pitti | mvo: bug 348301 sounds a bit like interference with update-manager's changing of /etc/default/apport to enable it for upgrades? | 08:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 348301 in apport "intrepid --> jaunty: apport wants to have user input" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/348301 | 08:44 |
| pitti | mvo: I wonder what to do about it | 08:45 |
| pitti | mvo: if u-m changes the file in exactly the way the new package ships it, it shouldn't prompt, right? | 08:45 |
| mvo | pitti: right | 08:52 |
| mvo | pitti: I can do that. | 08:52 |
| pitti | mvo: how do you modify the file right now? | 08:55 |
| pitti | mvo: just s/enabled=0/enabled=1/ ? | 08:56 |
| pitti | mvo: I just wonder how we handle this for the final release, since we'll disable apport for it | 08:56 |
| pitti | mvo: will you disable the temporary apport enabling in u-m too for final, or will that stay? | 08:56 |
| slangasek | mdke: wow; I knew it was safer to rmdir in the postinst, but I didn't realize it would be proven that quickly :-) | 08:56 |
| mvo | pitti: I want to disalbe the enabling of apport for RC | 08:56 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 08:57 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, just the sed equivalent in python | 08:57 |
| pitti | mvo: hm, I wonder what it's complaining at then | 08:57 |
| mvo | pitti: its modifiyng the intrepid file, but the jaunty file has a addtional line in it | 08:57 |
| pitti | ah, of course | 08:57 |
| pitti | # you can temporarily override this with | 08:57 |
| pitti | # sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start | 08:57 |
| mvo | yes | 08:57 |
| mvo | I can copy the jaunty version over and modify that, that should work | 08:58 |
| mvo | eh, no need to modify :) | 08:58 |
| mvo | but copy it iover | 08:58 |
| pitti | mvo: good idea, you'd extract it from the .deb? | 08:59 |
| mvo | pitti: good idea, then it would also automatically be disabled when you disable it in the deb | 09:02 |
| mvo | pitti: I check it out how robust this will be, I do not want to add late breakage :) | 09:04 |
| pitti | mvo: it indeed sounds intrusive, downloading that deb first, extracting, etc. | 09:04 |
| pitti | mvo: perhaps just add the current jaunty conffile for now, and disable the code for final? | 09:04 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, and the more sophicstiacted code for karmic | 09:05 |
| mvo | thanks pitti! | 09:05 |
| pitti | mvo: also, I don't plan to change that conffile again for karmic (except for enabling/disabling) | 09:05 |
| * pitti hugs mvo, danke | 09:05 | |
| pitti | mvo: erm, hang on | 09:05 |
| * mvo hangs | 09:06 | |
| pitti | mvo: why do we have to change the conffile in the first place? | 09:06 |
| pitti | # you can temporarily override this with | 09:06 |
| pitti | # sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start | 09:06 |
| pitti | it could just call that? | 09:06 |
| pitti | mvo: or does libapt read the conffile itself? | 09:06 |
| mvo | pitti: this is not available in intrepid yet, is it? I need to start the intrepid version | 09:06 |
| pitti | mvo: dang, you are right | 09:06 |
| pitti | also, this force_start won't trigger python | 09:07 |
| pitti | nevermind for now | 09:07 |
| mvo | ok | 09:08 |
| Mez | bug 350732 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 350732 in asterisk "IAX2 encryption: calls end abrutly due to normal packet loss" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350732 | 09:19 |
| pitti | seb128: the retracers all break down due to new LP and p-lp-bugs | 09:39 |
| pitti | seb128: the heck with it, I'm working on the launchpadlib migration now | 09:40 |
| seb128 | great ... | 09:40 |
| seb128 | pitti: thanks | 09:40 |
| pitti | let's not waste any more time on fixing plpbugs | 09:40 |
| * pitti invokes a new PPA bzr commit -m 'lazily log into Launchpad, so that bug reporting does not need it' | 09:40 | |
| pitti | WTH? | 09:40 |
| pitti | https://edge.launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/apport-retracer I meant to copy | 09:40 |
| pitti | that's how you reveal s3kr1ts, copy&paste errors.. | 09:41 |
| directhex | the great thing about having 2 clipboards is you can never be sure which one gets used! | 09:41 |
| pitti | cprov: multi-ppa and copying between them is soooo awesome! | 09:52 |
| * pitti hugs cprov | 09:52 | |
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| seb128 | pitti, mvo, slangasek: ok, so gnome-screensaver breaks after 2.24 to 2.26 updates | 10:19 |
| seb128 | ie if you still have the old version running after upgrade and lock the screen it doesn't unlock | 10:20 |
| seb128 | but display a flickering screen with no password entry | 10:20 |
| seb128 | I didn't upload 2.26 yet due to that | 10:20 |
| seb128 | do you think it's a blocker (ie we should not update until that's solved)? | 10:20 |
| pitti | seb128: asked the other way around, what would we lose by not updating? | 10:22 |
| seb128 | pitti: NEWS summary is on bug #345107 | 10:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345107 in gnome-screensaver "Please, sponsor gnome-screensaver 2.26.0 to jaunty" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345107 | 10:23 |
| seb128 | several bug fixes but nothing crutial I think | 10:23 |
| seb128 | we don't want to stay on 2.24 for ever | 10:23 |
| seb128 | but we can for sure wait next cycle and see if somebody fixes the issue or have the cycle to work on it | 10:23 |
| pitti | if we can't find a way to kill the old screensaver on upgrade and start the new one (if the old one was running), I guess that's a valid fallback | 10:29 |
| seb128 | that would unlock locked session | 10:29 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: you're on vendor-sec, aren't you? What's the address? | 10:31 |
| directhex | seb128, so do it in reverse. is it possible to start the new daemon then kill the old one, leaving no period of unwanted unlockedness? | 10:35 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: I haven't been any more for years | 10:35 |
| seb128 | directhex: you can't have 2 instances running no | 10:35 |
| seb128 | directhex: and how would you make sure that nobody open a menu or something during the split second when there is no screensaver which would prevent locking | 10:36 |
| directhex | seb128, well, that's why i'm suggesting that having two instances briefly is better than no instances briefly | 10:37 |
| seb128 | doesn't work | 10:37 |
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| seb128 | you can't run 2 instances and the first one already grab the screen, would be complicated to do | 10:37 |
| * pitti happily sees the apport python dup checker run with launchpadlib | 11:15 | |
| tseliot | pitti: I've sent an email to the mailing list about bug 320632 as you suggested. Just FYI | 11:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 320632 in xfree86-driver-synaptics "tap-to-click and edge-scrolling broken in Jaunty" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320632 | 11:27 |
| pitti | tseliot: great, thanks! | 11:27 |
| tseliot | np | 11:27 |
| * ogra wonders why ubiquity never selects "nodeadkeys" by default in german installs | 11:28 | |
| thekorn | pitti, great news, so apport is not depending on py-lp-bugs anymore? | 11:32 |
| pitti | thekorn: it still does in jaunty | 11:32 |
| pitti | thekorn: but I uploaded the launchpadlib branch packages to https://edge.launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/apport-retracer now | 11:32 |
| pitti | thekorn: and I'm in the middle of deploying those to the retracers | 11:32 |
| gopogo | hi | 11:33 |
| pitti | thekorn: uploading this to jaunty involves a FF and a MIR for python-launchpadlib | 11:33 |
| pitti | I'll file those, but I wanted to roll this out now | 11:33 |
| pitti | thekorn: since p-lp-bugs is broken again with today's LP rollout | 11:33 |
| gopogo | Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop | 11:33 |
| pitti | jaunty chroots now seem to work as well | 11:33 |
| thekorn | pitti, broken p-lp-bugs, I know :( | 11:34 |
| gopogo | I want to install on my dads laptop | 11:34 |
| pitti | thekorn: but now I don't care any more :) | 11:34 |
| ogra | does any gernam in her use the default german Xorg keymap instead of nodeadkeys ? | 11:34 |
| thekorn | pitti, :) that's fine | 11:34 |
| pitti | ogra: nodeadkeys FTW (but I'm usually using US layout) | 11:34 |
| ogra | pitti, right, its the only default i have to change in all my live installation tests and i was wondering if selecting nodeadkeys as a default wouldnt be cleverer | 11:35 |
| ogra | i personally dont know anyone not using nodeadkeys | 11:35 |
| pitti | well, I find it a "programmers" vs. "letter writers" issue | 11:35 |
| pitti | my wife occasionally needs accents | 11:36 |
| pitti | and she doesn't do shell backticks, etc. | 11:36 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:36 |
| ogra | i wonder if we should do a strawpoll on the de ML | 11:36 |
| pitti | I have no strong opinion about the default, but it's easy enough to change in ubiquity, thus *shrug* | 11:36 |
| gopogo | Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram | 11:36 |
| ogra | i know historically in dexconf it was alway defaulting to nodeadkeys | 11:36 |
| dholbach | ogra: the answer will depend on where you ask, I guess :) | 11:37 |
| ogra | *always | 11:37 |
| pitti | gopogo: I don't see why not; -> #ubuntu please, though | 11:37 |
| gopogo | i am invisible ;- | 11:37 |
| ogra | dholbach, yeah, its tricky | 11:37 |
| ogra | but i remember all my debian installs as well as all my early ubuntu installs defaulted to it ... i think that change came with ubiquity | 11:37 |
| gopogo | pitti: can UNR run on non atom cpu like centrino | 11:38 |
| ogra | gopogo, thats really a question for #ubuntu | 11:38 |
| gopogo | i dont think anybody knows there | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | ogra: no, it did not come with ubiquity. | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | ogra: console-setup is more likely | 11:39 |
| ogra | cjwatson, ah | 11:39 |
| ogra | do we inherit it from debian ? | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | ish | 11:39 |
| cjwatson | it's a complete rewrite of the old console keyboard handling infrastructure | 11:40 |
| ogra | ah, k, then i wont complain ... | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | and it does affect how the X keymap is chosen | 11:40 |
| ogra | i just notice that i always have to do these two extra clicks if i do test installs | 11:40 |
| cjwatson | well, it sounds like a legitimate complaint, I'm just explaining how it came about | 11:40 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:40 |
| ogra | pitti is right though, it migth be different for textwriters | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | although for the record I can't find any evidence that nodeadkeys used to be used by default | 11:41 |
| ogra | hard to judge from a programmers POV :) | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | still looking around and trying to remember how the old stuff works | 11:41 |
| pitti | ogra: dead keys are a programmer's nightmare, but so is the entire German layout in the first place :) | 11:41 |
| ogra | heh | 11:41 |
| ogra | well, depends :) | 11:41 |
| ogra | cjwatson, it was seeded by dexconf iirc | 11:42 |
| pitti | because vim keybindings, C/Python operators, LaTeX commands etc. were all designed to be convenient to type on the US keyboard | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | ogra: no | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | ogra: xserver-xorg.postinst chose deadkeys or not based on the installer-selected keymap | 11:42 |
| ogra | ah | 11:42 |
| ogra | i thought i saw something hardcoded in dexconf, but i might misremember | 11:43 |
| ogra | its a while ago i looked at it | 11:43 |
| cjwatson | ogra: ah, here we go, you're right, it did use to be nodeadkeys by default | 11:43 |
| ogra | right | 11:43 |
| cjwatson | console-keymaps-at/keymap's Choices has de-latin1-nodeadkeys and not de/de-latin1 | 11:43 |
| ogra | at least in my debian installs i'm sure | 11:43 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I'd like to have the output of a straw poll of course | 11:44 |
| ogra | yeah, i'll do one though i'm not actually sure where ... ubuntu-de might generate different output than ubuntu-devel ... the latter surely reaches more people | 11:44 |
| ogra | (or -devel-discuss) | 11:45 |
| * ogra thinks he'll do two | 11:46 | |
| cjwatson | I care more about "typical" German users than developers | 11:46 |
| cjwatson | whatever "typical" might mean | 11:46 |
| gopogo | can UNR run on non atom cpu like centrino ? | 11:46 |
| directhex | gopogo, absolutely | 11:47 |
| gopogo | thanks | 11:48 |
| directhex | gopogo, the unr images on cdimage are for i386 or amd64, and will run on any system regular ubuntu does | 11:48 |
| liw | ime developers tend to prefer non-localized systems, or only lightly localized systems, and have an unnaturaly fancy towards non-standarda layouts :P | 11:49 |
| gopogo | can I convert unr iso to usb img ? | 11:49 |
| directhex | why not doenload the usb image? | 11:51 |
| directhex | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/beta/ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img | 11:51 |
| mdz | mvo: which dist-upgrader log file would show the conffile prompts? | 11:57 |
| liw | mdz, I _think_ it's term.log | 12:01 |
| mdz | liw: ah, yes it is, I found an example. thanks | 12:01 |
| mvo | mdz: main.log will have it | 12:04 |
| mvo | (and term.log as well) | 12:04 |
| cjwatson | so I've been a little worried about our bug-fixing performance over time, and regenerated my graph of bug-fixes-uploaded-per-month a few days back to have another look at it | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bugfix-history/plots/month-fixed.png | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | look at that spike last month! and I'm not sure that even includes most of the post-beta fixes | 12:05 |
| dholbach | holy moly! | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | (generated based on whatever was in my mailbox at 2009-03-27 19:43 local) | 12:06 |
| dholbach | good work everybody :) | 12:06 |
| gopogo | is webkitkde in ubuntu repo ? | 12:06 |
| mdz | cjwatson: nice! | 12:07 |
| pitti | heh, nice december UDS/christmas break | 12:07 |
| cjwatson | yes, some events are very visible on this kind of graph | 12:08 |
| * cjwatson regenerates it. Takes a while since it has to plough through lots of mailboxes | 12:09 | |
| liw | I'm supposed to be able to edit the kernel command line in grub, right? whatever I try ends up in rebooting directly into BIOS | 12:12 |
| liw | hm, no, I can delete an argument ("quiet") and that works... | 12:13 |
| mdz | liw: worked for me last time I checked | 12:14 |
| liw | perhaps it _is_ the arguments I am trying ("iommu=soft" and "ata_ignore_hpa=0") then | 12:14 |
| liw | or perhaps Ubuntu really, really hates me, and not just my hard disks *sigh* | 12:15 |
| directhex | it's totally personal | 12:15 |
| pitti | seb128_: okay, please delete all apport cron mail you got until now | 12:31 |
| seb128_ | pitti: ok | 12:31 |
| seb128_ | pitti: did you manage to fix the retracers? | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128_: I just finished with upgrading them all to launchpadlib | 12:32 |
| pitti | there was some fallout | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128_: if you ever have to fix something, https://edge.launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/apport-retracer has the extra packages now | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128_: launchpadlib/wadllib backports, and apport packages from the launchpadlib branch for all supported releases | 12:32 |
| seb128_ | pitti: ok | 12:33 |
| pitti | all retracers are on auto again | 12:33 |
| pitti | seb128_: due to the backport, hardy/intrepid now get the "autoclosing on obsolete pacakges" and some robustness fixes as well now | 12:34 |
| pitti | seb128_: I'll have lunch now, and deal with potential fallout in an hour | 12:34 |
| pitti | until then, all retracers should have run at least once | 12:34 |
| seb128_ | exellent | 12:34 |
| * seb128_ hugs pitti | 12:34 | |
| seb128_ | good work! | 12:34 |
| pitti | *phew* | 12:34 |
| pitti | it was overdue | 12:35 |
| pitti | but quite some work | 12:35 |
| pitti | seb128_: I'm glad that Spads responded immediately to fix ronne's firewall rules | 12:35 |
| kwwii | hey seb128_, I subscribed you to the bug about the murrine engine version, so you don't forget ;) | 12:40 |
| seb128_ | kwwii: I don't forget but I though you said they would roll a tarball? | 12:40 |
| kwwii | seb128_: not that I know of, all I know is that it is fixed in svn | 12:41 |
| seb128_ | ok | 12:41 |
| kwwii | someone might have a package ready, let me ask around | 12:41 |
| seb128_ | it's easy enough to backport a change | 12:45 |
| seb128_ | I was just waiting on a new tarball | 12:45 |
| kwwii | seb128_: seems like someone did it already...https://launchpad.net/%7Esuraia/+archive/ppa/+files/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.90.1-0suraia1~jaunty1_0.90.2-0ubuntu1+svn170~jaunty1.diff.gz | 12:47 |
| seb128_ | well they should open a sponsoring request bug then | 12:48 |
| seb128_ | it will be faster for me to backport the svn change than to chase ppa versions | 12:48 |
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| kwwii | hrm, ok...so what should I do? what would be faster/better? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | nothing? | 12:50 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:50 |
| seb128 | if you know the guy who has the ppa you can ask him to open a sponsoring request | 12:50 |
| seb128 | if he doesn't I will just backport the change later today | 12:50 |
| kwwii | don't know him, and his email address isn't public, but I am sending him an email through launchpad, I'll get back to you | 12:51 |
| seb128 | ok | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bugfix-history/plots/month-fixed.png updated; those extra four days at the end of the month gave us another 200 bugs fixed or so | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | obviously it drops way down again since April only just started | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | IOW last month we fixed around 60% more bugs than any previous month on record | 13:08 |
| liw | yay for bug fixing | 13:08 |
| mdz | mvo: when you have a moment, could you have a look at bug 353768? | 13:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 353768 in ekiga "Upgrade from 3.0.1-1ubuntu2 to 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 held back" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353768 | 13:18 |
| mvo | mdz: sure | 13:21 |
| * mvo looks | 13:21 | |
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| pitti | seb128: argh, now the launchpadlib errors start to strike | 13:35 |
| mvo | mdz: hm, tricky, trivial to workaround with the release-upgrader, but there should be a better generic way | 13:36 |
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| mdz | mvo: should I go ahead and force the upgrade on my system, or is there useful debugging I could do? | 13:48 |
| mvo | mdz: forcing it should be fine, I can reproduce it here | 13:53 |
| seb128 | kenvandine_wk: ^ | 13:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: thx :) | 13:56 |
| calc | pitti: oh ok, np | 15:23 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, please delete retracer cron mails again; should be fixed now *knocks on wood* | 15:28 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 15:29 | |
| NCommander | cjwatson, good morning (or afternoon), did you get a chance to look over the possible solutions for shadow? (my patch didn't work after shadow finished building so back to square one for me) | 15:40 |
| cjwatson | not yet | 15:40 |
| cjwatson | I've been trying to fix RC installer bugs all day | 15:40 |
| NCommander | That Wubi one looks like a pain | 15:43 |
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| cjwatson | NCommander: oh, that one I'm leaving alone | 15:47 |
| kwwii | seb128: bug made for sponsoring the murrine engine from the private ppa #353832 | 15:47 |
| seb128 | kwwii: thanks | 15:48 |
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| RicardoPerez | tedg: Hi. I have a problem with indicator-applet. I've Evolution & Pidgin running, and both apps appears in the applet menu. However, sometimes one of them dissappears. Now, for example, Pidgin is running but its menu option has gone, so I can't select it in the applet and therefore I can't open the buddy list. This morning happens with Evolution, too | 15:52 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Do you know if this is a known issue? | 15:53 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: Yes, it's a known problem, there's a fix in trunk, but I haven't made a release yet as I'm working on other fixes. | 15:53 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Great, so I don't need to submit a new bugreport, right? | 15:54 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: It involves system and session bus ids matching and removing each other. So if you don't log out and log in often, it should happen less :) | 15:54 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: No, you shouldn't need to. You're welcome to comment on bug 345599 though. | 15:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345599 in indicator-applet "indicator applet disappears" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345599 | 15:55 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Oh, well, actually I never log out after rebooting or shutdown-restart... | 15:55 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: Rebooting is your problem there. Don't do that, no kernel upgrades ;) | 15:55 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Peeking into it | 15:56 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Mmmm... According to the bug 345599, it seems that the problem is notification icon dissappearing. My issue is that a menu entry dissappears, not the icon | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345599 in indicator-applet "indicator applet disappears" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345599 | 15:57 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: It's the same in that if you only have one of the two apps running, the whole thing will disappear. | 15:57 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Oh, that sounds reasonable :) Can I try and test the trunk version in order to make sure? | 15:58 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: Sure! bzr branch lp:indicator-applet | 15:58 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: That command downloads the source, right? Can I build a .deb binary package using that source? | 15:59 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: Not directly. I haven't merged it into the packaging branch. | 16:00 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: But I can "make install" without fear, don't me? ;) | 16:01 |
| tedg | RicardoPerez: Heh, a healthy amount of fear would probably be good ;) | 16:02 |
| tedg | I wouldn't do it on a production system or anything like that. | 16:02 |
| RicardoPerez | tedg: Mmmm... I'll try to do it, I'm brave :) Thanks a lot! | 16:03 |
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| mdz | mvo: regarding bug 349725, do we actually allow upgrades from 8.04 to 9.04 in one step? | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349725 in doc-base "8.04->9.04-beta updgrade: Could not install 'base-passwd'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349725 | 16:16 |
| mvo | mdz: kubuntu requested it | 16:18 |
| mvo | mdz: they want to support kde3 -> kde4 upgrades without going over intrepid | 16:18 |
| mvo | we will also need it for the next lts | 16:19 |
| mdz | mvo: interesting, I see | 16:19 |
| * mvo was a bit suprised aobut this too | 16:20 | |
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| calc | Riddell: shouldn't konqueror be registering alternatives for www-browser and x-www-browser? | 17:15 |
| Riddell | calc: yes, bug 353678 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 353678 in kdebase "Konqueror does not appear as a choice in update-alternatives" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353678 | 17:29 |
| calc | Riddell: ok | 17:29 |
| calc | Riddell: also seems that sensible-browser is bunged | 17:29 |
| calc | sensible-browser is only special cased for gnome and does not use xdg-open at all | 17:32 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: around? | 17:52 |
| mdke | LaserJock: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back) | 17:52 |
| * LaserJock curses mdke's autoresponder | 17:53 | |
| sabdfl | james_w, kenvandine_wk: apparently you rock! re gajim. thanks. | 18:00 |
| kady | calc: hello | 18:04 |
| calc | kady: hello | 18:05 |
| kady | calc: how are You? | 18:05 |
| calc | kady: ok, who are you? :) | 18:06 |
| kady | Just checking of you are the person to talk to about state of OO.o ? | 18:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | sabdfl: thanks... i want to see more stuff using the cool indicator stuff! | 18:08 |
| calc | kady: yes | 18:08 |
| calc | kady: whats up? | 18:09 |
| kady | calc: what is the state of the KDE 4 builds | 18:09 |
| kady | I heard they are turned off due to problems ? | 18:09 |
| calc | kady: there is no KDE 4 support in OOo period | 18:09 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, so I determined the reason behind the 0 for password expiration age getting written to the shadow file; we set that via login.defs, but removing unfortunately does not solve the issue. It seems if password age == 0, you MUST change your password even if the password aging fields are blank. | 18:09 |
| calc | kady: at the source level, so no way to really enable it for builds, it only halfway worked to compile but it didn't actually function properly since OOo does not support KDE4 | 18:09 |
| kady | calc: not even disabled? | 18:09 |
| kady | calc: any plans to? | 18:10 |
| calc | kady: no there is no code written to support KDE4 in OOo | 18:10 |
| calc | kady: maybe long term, there is a novell guy who does all the KDE support, but he does a lot of other work too so hasn't had time to write kde4 support for OOo | 18:10 |
| calc | kady: if you want to write the support you are welcome to :) | 18:10 |
| kady | calc: That's what I was trying to get to who is in charge of that | 18:11 |
| kady | there is a kde.oo.o site that hasn't been touched for years | 18:11 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, thats an intentional behavior, so now the question is; what do we do to get that field blank? | 18:11 |
| kady | the "team" is dead | 18:11 |
| kady | ? | 18:11 |
| kady | sounds like it if the one person who can do anything is not even working on OO.o | 18:12 |
| calc | kady: jan holesovsky (Kendy on irc) is who works on it, the official novell build is called go-oo / ooo-build which is available at go-oo.org | 18:12 |
| kady | go-oo is what Ubuntu uses I heard | 18:12 |
| kady | No idea of the truth of that | 18:13 |
| calc | kady: yes it is | 18:13 |
| calc | kady: he's mentioned on that page you linked to: "Jan Holesovsky /kendy at openoffice org/" | 18:13 |
| kady | ok thanks | 18:14 |
| calc | he still does a lot of work on OOo but just doesn't have time to fix up for KDE4 | 18:14 |
| calc | i think Novell doesn't ship kde4 | 18:14 |
| kady | Do you know what were the problems they were having | 18:14 |
| kady | calc: They have nightly builds of KDE4 so .... | 18:14 |
| calc | kady: ah ok | 18:14 |
| calc | kady: i think its just a time issue of he hasn't had time to write the kde4 file dialog and maybe some other stuff | 18:15 |
| calc | i do know at least that the kde4 file dialog is not done | 18:15 |
| kady | calc: might be better to try and build somethign a little more long term than a 2 week push then | 18:15 |
| kady | KDE4 is still in flux and I would expect thigns needt o get tweaked as time goes by and OO.o and KDE4 improve | 18:16 |
| kady | might make more sense to try and get three interested people to work with this | 18:16 |
| kady | thanks | 18:16 |
| kady | I'll try and contact him | 18:16 |
| calc | ok | 18:17 |
| kady | calc: Does Ubuntu plan to package OO.o extentions they way they do FF ? | 18:18 |
| askand | Hi! I remember seeing a nice tool that helps you get the right format in the changelogfile? what was that? | 18:21 |
| LaserJock | askand: dch ? | 18:21 |
| calc | kady: if someone wants to do it they can | 18:22 |
| calc | kady: i have no plans to package all the extensions in the world myself | 18:22 |
| calc | kady: we have a few extensions packaged and maybe a few with each new release will be done, but not all of them by any stretch | 18:22 |
| askand | LaserJock: thanks | 18:23 |
| kady | calc: oh no not at all :) packaging all the FF extensions would be an exercise in exhaustion that I hope would be done as a sacrifice in the name of science :) | 18:24 |
| kady | but the idea is to provide useful functionality without having people wander around the net installing things | 18:25 |
| kady | I would argue that OO.o is probably more in need of that service than FF | 18:25 |
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| lamont | ubuntu-bug /usr/bin/xvnc4viewer | 18:33 |
| lamont | Error showing url: Failed to execute child process "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox" (No such file or directory) | 18:33 |
| lamont | does that mean it filed the bug? (which would really be better with _some_ form of content... | 18:33 |
| ogra | lamont, from my experience it treis to log in with your browser and makes you add subject and description | 18:35 |
| ogra | *tries | 18:35 |
| lamont | ah, so that'll be _2_ bugs to file manually. kewl | 18:36 |
| ogra | so i would doubt it filed anything | 18:36 |
| lamont | searching lp for bugs in the package in question yielded a clean slate, wasn't sure if it was using the mail interface, or just completely faceplanting | 18:37 |
| ogra | i would guess it uses SENSIBLE_BROWSER ot x-www-browser | 18:37 |
| ogra | just a guess but i think w3m or lynx might work as well | 18:37 |
| lamont | it's probably related more to the fact that there are 2 instances of firefox (aka SENSIBLE_BROWSER) in 2 profiles running | 18:38 |
| sabdfl | kenvandine_wk: you and me both :-) | 18:39 |
| lamont | morning sabdfl | 18:40 |
| sabdfl | hiya lamont, 's a good season for firefighting :-) | 18:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | sabdfl: got other things you can suggest? | 18:40 |
| lamont | 'struth | 18:41 |
| sabdfl | kenvandine_wk: is gwibber using the Messaging Menu? | 18:43 |
| greg-g | segphault has a bzr branch for that support | 18:43 |
| sabdfl | love to see that in the default install for 9.10 :-_) | 18:44 |
| greg-g | sabdfl: we'll see what he and the team can do :) | 18:44 |
| kenvandine_wk | sabdfl: there is a branch, yes | 18:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | sabdfl: i am using it :) | 18:45 |
| greg-g | kenvandine_wk: this one right? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~segphault/gwibber/gwibber-indicate | 18:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | and providing some feedback to ryan :) | 18:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | greg-g: yes... if you have indicate-python installed | 18:46 |
| * greg-g nods | 18:46 | |
| kenvandine_wk | sabdfl: once i get those python bindings sponsored :) | 18:46 |
| Laney | kenvandine_wk: If you want that in Jaunty you should seek a freeze exception | 18:47 |
| Laney | but it is now exceptionally late | 18:47 |
| Laney | i'm happy to review it after that though | 18:48 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 18:48 |
| jcastro | sabdfl: ryan is merging messaging indicator support today or tomorrow, should be in jaunty this week if all goes well. | 18:55 |
| jcastro | sabdfl: pending the python bindings of course | 18:56 |
| sabdfl | rockalong | 18:57 |
| askand | Who has the final saying on what should be included by default in Ubuntu? | 18:57 |
| sabdfl | FINAL say? | 18:57 |
| sabdfl | me | 18:57 |
| sabdfl | but there are quite a few better places to start. | 18:58 |
| askand | sabdfl: I have posted to the ubuntu-devel-discussion list :) | 18:58 |
| askand | I was just curious | 18:58 |
| sabdfl | that's a very good place to start. | 18:58 |
| askand | sabdfl: Haha, didn't know that you were the founder of Ubuntu and actually the one who has the final say, thought you were just some random helpful guy with hybris :) | 19:06 |
| sabdfl | tada, i'm both ;-) | 19:07 |
| highvoltage | askand: he also says that "Linux is a phenomenal facebook device" :) | 19:11 |
| calc | anyone know if there is way to use evolution to send an email from the command line? | 19:13 |
| calc | i need to reset my debian password but i don't have local mta setup which aiui is what 'mail' requires | 19:13 |
| azeem | why is sending an email from the command-line required to reset your debian password? | 19:14 |
| calc | azeem: apparently you have to do the following: https://db.debian.org/doc-mail.html | 19:14 |
| calc | echo "Please change my Debian password" | gpg --clearsign | mail chpasswd@db.debian.org | 19:15 |
| bryce | sabdfl: :-) | 19:15 |
| calc | i suppose possibly typing that in and making evolution do the equivalent of clearsign will work as well | 19:15 |
| walters | calc: like 5 years ago i successfully used evolution's gpg signature stuff to do that, but i wouldn't be surprised if it regressed now | 19:15 |
| * calc isn't sure if there is an easy way to do that in evolution | 19:15 | |
| azeem | calc: or just c&p the first two pipes into evolution's new mail body? | 19:16 |
| azeem | but I'd try what happens if you just send a signed mail first | 19:16 |
| calc | azeem: iirc i've tried that but it doesn't quite work for some reason | 19:16 |
| calc | but haven't tried just a signed email | 19:16 |
| calc | walters: ah it did work with just signing it :) | 19:21 |
| slangasek | NCommander: so, texlive-bin still ICEs on arm with gcc 4.3; are there optimization tweaks we could try in order to get it building? I'm not keen to have to re-promote gcc-4.2 to main for a single package | 19:23 |
| NCommander | slangasek, I can mess around with it, no promises if I can fix it though :-/ | 19:33 |
| slangasek | I just got access back to an arm again, I'm poking at it a bi | 19:34 |
| slangasek | t | 19:34 |
| NCommander | slangasek, if you want superuser access to an ARM box, you can use one of mine. | 19:37 |
| slangasek | already sorted here | 19:37 |
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| NCommander | slangasek, ah good | 19:37 |
| directhex | at least ARM works in qemu | 19:38 |
| directhex | i could never get sparc/ppc going | 19:38 |
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| mdke | LaserJock: now I am | 19:52 |
| mdke | LaserJock: I guess for the edubuntu-docs upload, you'll need to ship the symlink at /usr/share/gnome/help/libs to point at /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs and install the edubuntu libs there, to cater for the case where edubuntu-docs are installed on their own | 19:56 |
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| maco | tedg: i'm in gnome now, and yes the envelope is visible | 20:17 |
| tedg | maco: Great! | 20:18 |
| maco | tedg: is there a bug filed for the "is online" notifications going to the indicator applet instead of only the messaging notifications going there, for pidgin? | 20:19 |
| tedg | maco: It's not a bug, it's a requested feature! Basically so you can respond to them quickly if they're important. | 20:20 |
| maco | oh | 20:20 |
| tedg | maco: They disappear pretty quickly. | 20:20 |
| maco | they disappear out of there? | 20:20 |
| maco | i thought the stuff in the indicator applet was supposed to persist | 20:20 |
| tedg | Yes, it's only recent logins. | 20:21 |
| maco | ah ok | 20:21 |
| maco | nice | 20:21 |
| tedg | There's a request to increase the length of time, so I'll probably do that here shortly. | 20:21 |
| tedg | They're only there for 15 seconds now. | 20:21 |
| maco | also, does new gdm know how to handle user switching and logouts and things using dbus? or is it still the domain sockets I saw comments in FUSA's code alluding to? | 20:21 |
| tedg | Yes. The current gdm is sockets, the new one is DBus. | 20:22 |
| maco | is jaunty current or new? | 20:22 |
| tedg | Current in Jaunty. GNOME upstream is actually a different one. We're lagging. | 20:22 |
| tedg | GNOME upstream is "new". | 20:22 |
| maco | ok. and fusa should be updated to use the dbus stuff in karmic then, so it stops crashing when it cant find domain sockets in kdm? | 20:23 |
| tedg | The plan is for Karmic to make it understand both GDM and KDM so that users don't have to worry about that anymore. | 20:23 |
| maco | yay! | 20:23 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I think I'll rather just not use libs/ unless you have an objection | 20:25 |
| LaserJock | mdke: we're only shipping one doc these days, I don't see as much value in using "common" files these days | 20:26 |
| mdke | LaserJock: so you'll just stop using entities at all? | 20:27 |
| mdke | LaserJock: or ship them in the document itself? | 20:27 |
| LaserJock | mdke: the easiest would be to just ship them with the doc itself | 20:28 |
| LaserJock | you end up having a copy for each translation, but I'm not sure if that's a big deal | 20:29 |
| LaserJock | *or* I could ship the .ents in /usr/share/edubuntu-docs/ | 20:30 |
| LaserJock | I just don't think we necessarily need to overlap namespace | 20:30 |
| mdke | pitti: no docs for UNR as far as I know yet | 20:53 |
| askand | tedg: It's not a bug, it's a requested feature, but is there a bug filed for the "is online" notifications going to the indicator applet anyway? :) | 20:54 |
| tedg | askand: I don't think so. Feel free to start one. :) | 20:55 |
| askand | tedg: nah, it propably will not be changed so close to release anyway, I think I can learn to live with it :) | 20:56 |
| maco | i vote in favor of configuration options next time | 20:56 |
| maco | and im totally a gnome user at the moment, so no kde comments! | 20:57 |
| maco | :P | 20:57 |
| maco | uh....i also dont recommend trying to launch xmonad while a gnome session is running O_O | 20:58 |
| kirkland | pitti: cool, working on the update-notifier ecryptfs bits ... let me know if you need my help! | 21:00 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I'm just been made aware that we're having build queue issues with armel; if you upload anything thats important for arm (like installer bits), I'll be around for most of the day/night so feel free to ping me for rescores (I'm rescoring your last uploads) | 21:38 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I also uploaded a potential fix for the useradd issue | 21:38 |
| infinity | NCommander: Well, the "issue" is that there are 3 giant sources building right now. Hard to fix that, unless we want them killed. | 21:39 |
| NCommander | infinity, I've gotten reports that builds are getting stuck in the queue; base-installer for instance didn't build infront of the mass rebuilds. | 21:40 |
| infinity | NCommander: Yeah, that sometimes happens too. Especially if a package is given-back in the web UI and gets a score of 0. :/ | 21:41 |
| NCommander | infinity, yeah, I keep pushing builds to the front of the queue, like KDE :-/ | 21:42 |
| xq | is there a definite issue, that has been confirmed, with the usb boot build of jaunty beta? | 21:47 |
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| slangasek | lool, NCommander: texlive-bin builds fine on armel, with gcc-4.3 -O0, fails with -O1; any objections to making that change? | 22:48 |
| superm1 | slangasek, have you been doing much experimentation with already installed systems switching to grub-pc? | 22:49 |
| slangasek | superm1: not yet; you? | 22:50 |
| superm1 | slangasek, well I did back in 8.04, and it was OK. I was just doing some experimentation with 9.04 stuff and it's looking like it's not defining the root line properly wrg to UUIDs now | 22:50 |
| NCommander | slangasek, no objections here | 22:50 |
| slangasek | superm1: ah; I think UUID handling is an open item in the spec, isn't it? | 22:51 |
| superm1 | slangasek, no I had thought upstream integrated UUID support, but maybe so maybe it's just something wrong with the postinst | 22:51 |
| slangasek | I thought the syntax between the two is different | 22:52 |
| superm1 | slangasek, and if I skip grub1 and install grub2, it uses UUIDs and does the right thing. it's just when transitioning, something doesn't get written out write in grub1's menu.lst | 22:52 |
| * slangasek nods | 22:52 | |
| slangasek | what's the authoritative way to find out what optimizations a given -O level implies? | 23:19 |
| slangasek | (since g++-4.3's manpage appears not to accurately define these for armel) | 23:20 |
| azeem | slangasek: -dumpspecs maybe? | 23:21 |
| azeem | sorry | 23:22 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: just installed apport on one of my jaunty vm - gdb was pulled in. | 23:22 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: I'm not sure we want to have gdb installed by default on every server install (in the case we choose to install apport by default) | 23:23 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: same comment for python-xdg | 23:24 |
| sbeattie | mathiaz: hrm, okay. I wonder how needed it is for the backtrace. | 23:24 |
| sbeattie | mathiaz: can you file a bug on those against apport and subscribe me to it? Thanks. | 23:25 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: ok | 23:25 |
| slangasek | azeem: "sorry"? (nothing in -dumpspecs seems to cover this, anyway) | 23:27 |
| azeem | "sorry" for saying something without checking first | 23:27 |
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| sbeattie | mathiaz: I'll talk to pitti about it and the issue I have saving reports; I really think it would be valuable to have apport installed on the server by default, particularly if we get more per-package apport hooks -- look at the ones for apparmor and mdadm for the kinds of information we can collect. | 23:28 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: agreed. | 23:29 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: there's no special rush for installer builds just now | 23:29 |
| * sbeattie has a goal of increasing the number of apport hooks for server packages in the kranky kitty devel cycle. | 23:29 | |
| cjwatson | NCommander: I can rescore them myself if I need to, too ;-) | 23:29 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: the info documentation isn't all that bad is it? | 23:30 |
| superm1 | slangasek, well this takes care of the problem http://pastebin.com/f3a9badc8 , but ignores the situation of people who go and use a separate root line in menu.lst (whereas the previous approach ignored the more common case of people who used UUIDs) | 23:30 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: bug 354172 for your pleasure | 23:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 354172 in apport "gdb and python-xdg required dependencies for apport?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354172 | 23:31 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: (thanks, though) | 23:31 |
| sbeattie | mathiaz: thanks. | 23:31 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: is it guaranteed to be authoritative? I'm trying to find the key optimization causing an ICE on armel, and the manpage claims -O1 is equal to a set of optimizations which is clearly incomplete | 23:31 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: so if I want to write hooks for mysql-dfsg-5.0, what would be the name of the apport hook file? | 23:32 |
| mathiaz | sbeattie: source_mysql-dfsg-5.0.py? | 23:32 |
| NCommander | cjwatson, I didn't know you were a buildd admin | 23:32 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: tech board | 23:33 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: no, I wouldn't like to say guaranteed | 23:33 |
| NCommander | I didn't know the tech board were in the buildd admin group | 23:33 |
| cjwatson | the tech board *owns* the buildd admin group | 23:33 |
| NCommander | I didn't know the tech board owned the buildd admin group ;-) | 23:33 |
| sbeattie | mathiaz: yes, source_[source_package_name].py | 23:33 |
| the_dark_warrio | when running 'gksu gedit', the screen should get faded by a semi-transparent window, but it isn't covering my hole screen, which I think is due to the high res (1680x1050). Is this a known bug? Should I report it? | 23:34 |
| slangasek | superm1: brain is returning ENOSPC; file bug + target? | 23:34 |
| superm1 | slangasek, sure will do | 23:36 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: right, the info docs lie in the same way as the manpage | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | d'oh, sorry for misdirecting you then | 23:38 |
| slangasek | n/p | 23:39 |
| slangasek | would be nice if there were a commandline arg to gcc/g++ to spit it out :/ | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | I think some of the optimisations don't actually correspond to independent -O options | 23:46 |
| slangasek | heh - indeed, apparently -O1 -fno-tree-ter works, but -O0 -ftree-ter also works | 23:51 |
| TheMuso | /c/c | 23:57 |
| cjwatson | NCommander: quick glance over my comments on bug 349504? might be able to upload tonight if you can sign off the last point | 23:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349504 in shadow "if system date is set to 01-01-1970 users are enforced to update their password" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349504 | 23:59 |
| NCommander | Oh **** | 23:59 |
| NCommander | I respan the debdiff to fix that | 23:59 |
| NCommander | I guess I uploaded the old one by mistake | 23:59 |
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