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bhuvanany bzr expert around?13:59
bhuvanwhen i do bzr commit bzr+ssh://bhuvan@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-karmic13:59
bhuvanbzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-karmic/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()13:59
bhuvani'm facing that error, any clue on why it occurs?13:59
bhuvanbzr break-lock didnt help14:00
jpdsYou're suppose to just 'bzr commit' and then 'bzr push' to that location.14:04
sommerbhuvan: are you ssh keys on LP up to date?14:04
sommerbhuvan: I think you get different error when that happens though14:04
bhuvansommer: i think so. i did not change it et all14:04
bhuvani suspected the issue is because i co using http, i changed .bzr/branch/branch.conf and set as bzr+ssh14:05
jpdsWhy it's saying http:// when you're using bzr+shh:// I don't know.14:05
bhuvannow when i did bzr commit it complains:14:05
bhuvanPermission denied (publickey).14:05
bhuvanbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)14:05
sommerbhuvan: maybe try re-uploading your key?14:06
bhuvanjpds, i think it was because i checked out using http://14:06
bhuvanok, will do sommer14:06
sommerbhuvan: ya, I usually just do bzr branch lp:ubuntu-doc, then bzr commit followed by bzr push to commit up to LP14:10
sommerbhuvan: you can also bind to the branch, but if you remember to do bzr pull before committing any changes it's pretty much the same thing... from what I understand anyway :)14:11
bhuvansommer: re-uploading the key seem to help14:12
bhuvanbzr commit says ... Committed revision 258.14:12
bhuvanbzr push says ... No new revisions to push.14:12
bhuvansommer: do you think14:13
bhuvan i'm alright?14:13
sommerbhuvan: did you make any changes?14:13
bhuvanyes to mail.xml14:13
sommerbhuvan: try bzr push lp:ubuntu-doc14:14
sommermaybe it just needs to know where to push14:14
bhuvansommer: i'll try it. righ tnow, i'm doing bzr branch lp:ubuntu-doc14:16
bhuvanonce it is complete, i will run bzr push lp:ubuntu-doc14:16
bhuvanthanks!14:16
sommerbhuvan: np14:20
mdkebhuvan: no, not lp:ubuntu-doc - we are in string freeze so you need to commit to the karmic branch only19:53
mdkesommer: ^^19:53
sommeroh right, I guess I assumed lp:ubuntu-doc was now karmic19:55
mdkeI'll change it shortly19:55
sommerparty!19:55
LaserJockhola22:08
LaserJockanybody around this time o' day?22:08
mdkeLaserJock: yep22:09
LaserJockoh, you're still up22:09
mdkeLaserJock: to reply to your last in -devel22:09
mdkeLaserJock: you'll need to ship them with the doc itself22:10
LaserJockI got to looking at what you guys were doing a bit more in depth22:10
mdkeLaserJock: if you use /usr/share/edubuntu-docs, it won't work22:10
LaserJockI'm not sure why you're symlinking "libs" but it's a bit interesting22:10
mdkeLaserJock: go ahead22:10
LaserJockwell, basically ubuntu-doc is taking an exclusive lock on "libs" which has been a fairly generic directory in the past22:11
mdkeLaserJock: yes, it doesn't really account for derivatives which also use Gnome, I suppose22:12
LaserJockif one installs the new ubuntu-docs and *then* installs edubuntu-docs then it'd be fine I guess, but it's a bit hackish it seems22:12
mdkeand which might not use ubuntu-docs22:12
LaserJockfor me it's not much of a problem as Edubuntu only has one doc22:13
LaserJockbut it might be something to think about in the future22:13
mdkeyes, we should think that through and clean things up a bit for karmic22:13
mdkedo you have an easy alternative solution? I guess the other way around may work better (ship /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/ and symlink from /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs)22:14
LaserJockwell22:15
LaserJockwhat was the point of doing the symlinking?22:15
LaserJockwe used to just dump in /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/22:16
mdkeI can't remember what the reasoning was :(22:17
mdkeprobably there was some, even if twisted22:18
LaserJockwell, I would have maybe called it ubuntu-libs and left the "libs" as generic if you had a particular purpose for symlinking22:18
mdkeoff the top of my head, I can't think of a reason for having /usr/share/ubuntu-docs at all22:19
mdkemaybe I'm missing something22:19
mdkepresumably ubuntu-serverguide uses it22:20
mdkeI'll certainly take a look at these issues in the next release22:20
LaserJockwell, in any case I can fix the immediate issue22:22
LaserJockmy problem is how to deal with a package that hasn't been updated in 1 year and trying to get it all to work in one shot22:23
* mdke nods22:24
mdkeLaserJock: sorry if the symlink has increased that pain22:24
LaserJockwell, the only thing I'm wondering about is translations22:25
mdkehttps://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/edubuntu-docs22:25
mdkequite a few templates there :(22:26
LaserJockare the .ents translated?22:26
mdkethey are transposed directly into the translated xml22:26
mdkei.e. the translated xml files don't use .ents22:27
LaserJockok22:29
LaserJockso it just comes down to me needing to move my 2 files somewhere else22:29
LaserJockI guess if the structure is /usr/share/gnome/help/$$doc/$$lang/ then I could put the .ents in usr/share/gnome/help/$$doc/22:29
mdkewhat I think you should do is to put the ents directly inside the xml file for the relevant document22:30
LaserJockah, well, yeah, I could do that too ;-)22:30
LaserJockheh, they are all of 8 lines22:30
LaserJockyeah, that's pretty ridiculous to separate out anyway22:31
mdkeLaserJock: you can eliminate any ents which aren't actually used22:31
mdkeif you have time :)22:32
mdkethen regenerate the pot files for safe keeping22:32
mdkebut no strings should change22:32
LaserJockit's ok for the pot to change a little isn't it?22:38
LaserJockI need to get "Hardy" and "8.04" updated to "Jaunty" and "9.04"22:38
mdkeLaserJock: yeah, for serious typos like that it's ok, but notify the translators so that they can update the translations if they wish22:39
mdkeLaserJock: that is, assuming that you'll be downloading the translations before Jaunty release :)22:42
LaserJockah crap22:48
LaserJockthis is just not going to be easy22:48
mdkehmm?22:48
LaserJockright now I can't generate a .pot correctly22:50
mdkeerror?22:50
LaserJockit spits out one giant msgid22:50
mdkewhuahu?22:51
LaserJockwell, I could just grab the .pots off of LP22:51
LaserJockand s/Hardy/Jaunty/22:51
mdkethen they wouldn't fit the xml22:52
LaserJockpresumably22:52
LaserJockwell, it would fit the xml, just not the .pot generated from the xml22:52
mdkeI'm not sure22:53
LaserJockhmmpf, get-pot.sh is the same between the two22:54
mdkesorry?22:54
mdkeok, I've got to crash now, catch up tomorrow22:58

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