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Alex_21I am installing using a CLI Version of Ubuntu05:33
Alex_21I want to make this box a front/backend05:34
Alex_21For MythTV05:34
Alex_21What packages do I install for a minimal install o mythtv05:34
Alex_21? Please05:34
rhpot1991Alex_21: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mythtv-frontend05:41
rhpot1991and05:41
rhpot1991http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mythtv-backend-master05:41
rhpot1991you can follow the dependencies there05:41
Alex_21Thanks05:51
Alex_21Now, what can I do. I have a box with free P05:51
Alex_21cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another bow with 256MB or RAM and 1.25 GHZ or CPU. How should I set it up?05:52
Stemming78Mythbuntu v9.04 Beta -  SYSTEM locks (crashes) when trying to manually input IMDB video #...  Is this a known issue - possible fixes?05:56
Alex_21cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another bow with 256MB or RAM and 1.25 GHZ or CPU. How should I set it up for best performance? I have no PCI Slots on the faster box05:57
Alex_21cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another box with 256MB of RAM and 1.25 GHZ ofCPU. How should I set it up for best performance? I have no PCI Slots on the faster box06:10
Alex_21Please06:10
foxbuntuAlex_21, its impolite to ask the same question more than once in an irc channel06:16
Alex_21I corrected typos06:20
Alex_21I'm sorry06:20
foxbuntuAlex_21, still not sure what you are asking however06:21
foxbuntuAlex_21, what is the problem you are having?06:21
Alex_21I don't know how best to set up the configuration06:22
foxbuntuyou have two machines, one with a 266MHz CPU and 512M ram correct?06:22
Alex_21If I put my TV tuner in the Desktop with PCI slots free, should I network it to my other box for compression or will the other bow do it on its own?06:23
Alex_21Yes06:23
foxbuntuwow...thats an old one06:23
foxbuntu...at any rate...it depends on the tuners you are using06:23
Alex_21Yes, PowerMac G3 Gosemer06:23
foxbuntuah06:23
Alex_21It is a HTache Win-TV tuner06:24
foxbuntuthats a software encoder correct? (doesnt stream MPG)06:24
Alex_21It is the one shipping standard with the HP Invent boxes at the moment06:24
Alex_21No, that is the Tuner itself06:25
foxbunturight06:25
foxbuntudoes the tuner have hardware encoding?06:25
Alex_21I don't know06:25
Alex_21I'll check.06:25
foxbuntuas in it creates an MPG stream on the card then sends that to the PC06:25
Alex_21Can you give me an estimate either way06:25
Alex_21I mean lets say it doesn't06:25
foxbuntuI would likely say the 266MHz wont cut it06:26
foxbuntueven with Hardware encoding, you will be border line06:26
Alex_21Would it cut it if it has Hardware Encoding?06:26
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hadsIt might. But that's kinda slow.06:26
Alex_21Well, then what can I do06:26
foxbuntuAlex_21, newer hardware?06:27
Alex_21Not a chance06:27
hadsThat would be the answer06:27
hadsOkay, the other answer wouldbe don't make a media PC.06:27
Alex_21If I networked it to the other box can I save myself the trouble and just use this box as a relay?06:27
foxbuntuAlex_21, there really isnt much else you can do, the 266Mhz proc wasnt designed with video streams in mind06:28
foxbuntunope06:28
Alex_21Grr06:28
foxbuntuthe load it still on the device creating the stream06:28
Alex_21I have a Moterolla PVR with the latest firmware from my cable company06:28
Alex_21Can I use Firewire from that to watch all the channels?06:29
foxbuntuAlex_21, depends on your cable co...its hit and miss06:29
foxbuntuAlex_21, some cable cos even handle it different in different areas06:29
Alex_21Grr06:29
Alex_21That sucks06:30
* foxbuntu is full of great news tonight06:30
foxbuntu:)06:30
Alex_21Ok, what else can I do. Isnt 266 MHZ good for anything?06:30
hadsNot a lot no.06:30
foxbuntuuh06:30
foxbuntusolitare on win 98?06:30
Alex_21No, I mean something Recent06:30
hadsNo06:31
rhpot1991cli server06:31
Alex_21I just put money into upgrading periferals on the pyppy06:31
foxbuntu?06:31
hadsA low end targetted distro like puppy or something.06:31
Alex_21Puppy, ... Sorry06:31
foxbuntuas in ...who told you to do that?06:31
hadsOr yeah, as rhpot1991 said, something without X06:31
Alex_21No one06:31
foxbuntuwell I hope it didnt cost allot then06:32
Alex_21It is my only PPC Box that I can spear at the moment06:32
Alex_21Spare06:32
Alex_21Here is an idea. Is there a way to do the streaming without X?06:33
rhpot1991PPC is dead, sorry to inform you :)06:33
Alex_21Will that free up a lot of RAM/CPU?06:33
* rhpot1991 just unhooked his B&W G306:33
Alex_21I have the Beige G306:33
Alex_21I need to use it for something06:34
rhpot1991Alex_21: not much anymore06:34
Alex_21Thin Client maybe06:34
Alex_21?06:34
tgm4883doorstop?06:34
rhpot1991they struggle with OSX even06:34
Alex_21And trip over it06:34
tgm4883!%requirement%06:34
ZinnSorry I don't know about %requirement%06:34
Alex_21Well, maybe you guys know of something I can do because I have a computer without any PCI slots left06:35
Alex_21Or rather none at all06:35
Alex_21And It has a good CPU in it06:36
Alex_21But I don't know what to do to get the Win-TV Tuner inside of it06:36
tgm4883file server?06:37
Alex_21I bought the tuner thinking that the G3 would take it06:37
Alex_21Yes, the G3 will become a Thin Client with XFCE or something06:38
Alex_21If it can handle that06:38
Alex_21But I don't know how to get the tuner inside this other machine06:38
Alex_21Is there a FW to PCI Bridge or something?06:40
Alex_21My fingers are crossed06:40
hadsYou can uncross them.06:41
Stemming78Unable to locate anything on this, but was curious if there is an issue with MYTHVIDEO crashing when selecting option to manually input the IMDB number...  Using Mythbuntu v6.04 beta.  If no, where should I post the thread?06:42
foxbuntuhads, would you like to post the most awesome link tonight?06:42
hadshuh?06:42
foxbuntuStemming78, what version? are you on -fixes, -testing, or -trunk?06:42
foxbuntuhads, you know which link to post for hardware suggestions ;)06:43
hadsOh the spam.06:43
Stemming78foxbuntu: using v9.06 beta....  not sure of the second question06:43
hadss/(6.04|9.06)/9.04/06:43
Alex_21That is the only way to do this06:44
Alex_21Isn't there any such device?06:44
Stemming78sorry...  late...  9.04 beta06:44
foxbuntuStemming78, oh you mean of Mythbuntu06:44
hadsStemming78: Using a weird theme or something?06:44
foxbuntuStemming78, i havent heard anyone say anything...I havent tried it myself...I do Have a 9.04 beta machine running06:44
foxbuntuyeah which theme are you using?06:45
foxbuntuthat could do it06:45
Stemming78hads: Had the "black" theme preloaded...  It has IMDB Search pasted on the screen (as if it is allowing you to search).  Switched to the "Blue" theme and that got rid of IMDB search field...  BOTH will lock the machine when trying to manually input the IMDB number06:46
rhpot1991I've seen the issue with the IMDB box always up, I haven't tried to search for something in a while though06:47
Stemming78Using "Mythcenter" now...   Projectgreyhem" has the issue when you load into Mythvideo setup06:48
Alex_21How can I use this PCI Module06:49
Stemming78Have a large library -    several movies cannot be found when searching - only option is to manually input it.06:49
Alex_21Is there a PCI mini to PCI adapter?06:49
Stemming78Should I open a thread for the issue -  if so, where and what log file is needed for the crash06:50
Stemming78Trying to help with the "bugs"...  Only issue I have come across...06:53
hadsI've not seen it06:55
Stemming78To trying to be bothersome, but what do you all suggest I do for the issue?  IMDB Search = lock06:57
Stemming78*not06:58
superm1tmdb instead06:58
superm1or omdb?06:58
Alex_21Thanks for your help06:58
Alex_21Good night06:58
superm1if one of them works better for you we can set it default for installs06:58
superm1just need to let people know06:59
Stemming78superm1: Is this the new tagging agent for 9.0?  If so, how do I switch to it?07:01
Stemming78I have never seen either before...07:02
Stemming78superm1:   Do I need to follow this to get it to work?  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl07:06
Stemming78Or is it preinstalled?07:06
hadsTMDB and TTVDB are the way forward07:12
Stemming78OMDB has a better coverage of movies, but TMDB has the nicest cover boxes...07:15
Stemming78Is IMDB getting scrapped?07:15
hadsTMDB is based on OMDB07:17
hadsAnd IMDB use from myth is getting scrapped, it violates their ToS07:18
Stemming78hads:  so that explains IMDB being broke in 9.04...   I suppose it works is v8.10...   Eventually there is going to be an update that will install the tmdb.pl  script and update the script settings in Video Settings / General - page 4/707:24
Stemming78I sthat correct to assume? or will I need to manually do this?07:24
hadsStemming78: It doesn't actually explain it 'cause it's being removed in myth trunk, 9.04 is still based on 0.2107:24
foxbuntuStemming78, I think its included in MythTV .2207:24
Stemming78Ahh...  thanks for clarifying that...07:25
hadsOh, and yeah, the tmdb scrips are in trunk07:26
Stemming78One last question...  Is the theme supporting the "switch"?  wont crash?07:26
foxbuntuStemming78, what switch?07:27
Stemming78*that is wont crash as result of the theme07:27
Stemming78tmdb07:27
foxbuntuit will07:27
hadsThe whole mythvideo metadata thing is being changed in trunk07:27
foxbuntuwe have to redo the entire thing for .22 any how07:27
Stemming78ok... so wait would be the answer07:27
foxbuntu:)07:27
Stemming78THANKS!07:27
MythbuntuGuest13installing mythtv but it says i need qt how do I install that?07:35
foxbuntuMythbuntuGuest13, are you using the packages?07:36
MythbuntuGuest13This is what I did07:38
MythbuntuGuest13http://pastebin.com/m242e3c5707:38
MythbuntuGuest13Changing name to eric_07:39
eric_I went to the mythtv wiki to install from there using the latest source code and installing the prereqs07:40
eric_nevermind installed qt3 package and now running07:48
mycosyshi guys - I appear to be missing an Xlib.h and an XvMclib.h - any clues http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d63aa1caf12:39
Ymse2In the "Connect source to input" the fields scan for channels is shaded. What have I forgotten???14:29
piglithello there what was the command (in command line) to check if your hard disk is working in the right order?17:37
tgm4883piglit, not sure what you mean17:38
piglittgm4883: i have got a new hard disk and i want to check if it is broken i thought i saw a error when booting but it went by to fast17:45
tgm4883if it's broken?17:45
tgm4883well you can check if it's mounted by typing "mount"17:45
piglitwell it is mounted17:45
piglitisnt there something like a checkdisk?17:46
tgm4883you could fsck it, but should unmount it first17:47
piglitso that way i wont be able to check the boot partition?17:48
tgm4883um correct?   I'm not really sure17:49
tgm4883you could boot a live cd and fsck all of it17:49
piglitcant i just look up the boot msg i saw it must be saved somewhere i ques?17:52
tgm4883dmesg perhaps17:56
tgm4883or /var/log/syslog17:56
id1402hello.20:41
id1402how can i make sshd start automatically on mythbuntu?20:41
id1402i have to make "/etc/init.d/ssh start" every time aufter reboot.20:42
foxbuntuid1402, then something is broken on your system, it should start on its own.20:46
id1402lol.20:49
id1402ok.20:49
id1402there was another problem. mythbuntu detected an update of base-files.20:50
id1402but wasn't able to install because url was wrong.20:50
id1402how to fix it.20:50
id1402mythbuntu 8.10 here.20:51
id1402installing packages from internet works.20:52
foxbuntuid1402, sudo apt-get update20:53
id1402but update of base-files says "wrong url" or "cannot connect to server" something like this..20:53
foxbuntuyour repo list is out of date20:53
id1402why is the repo list of the new mythbuntu out of date?20:53
id1402i will try "sudo apt-get update".20:53
foxbuntuid1402, its a package list in the repos, it tells your machine what version is currently in the repo20:54
foxbuntuyou need to update it before installing packages (if you havent done so in awhile)20:54
id1402ok.20:54
foxbuntuand the repo list from the install disk is never the current one20:55
id1402i already have instsalled packages successfully.20:55
id1402from internet repo.20:55
foxbuntuid1402, dont do things that way...you could break things20:55
id1402it was mc.20:55
foxbuntualways try to use apt-get or synaptic20:55
id1402mc was the first program i installed manually.20:55
foxbuntuwell thats ok20:56
foxbuntubecause that done with apt-url20:56
foxbuntuI mean dont go manually to the repos and download the debs then install20:56
foxbuntujust use the repos the way your supposed to20:56
id1402no no.20:56
id1402i used this grafically software management tool.20:57
id1402the yast of ubuntu.20:57
foxbuntuonce updated you can make sure everything you need is installed with: sudo apt-get install -f20:57
foxbuntuid1402, thats likely Synaptic20:57
id1402yes.20:58
foxbuntuthats ok as well20:58
foxbuntulike I said, apt-get, or synaptic20:58
id1402i prefer apt-get if i know package name.20:59
foxbuntuid1402, you can search for packages with apt-cache search <package_name>20:59
id1402ah ok.21:00
foxbuntubut again update first if you havent done so in awhile21:00
id1402is there any command to make after "apt-get install"?21:00
foxbuntuid1402, I would suggest you make sure your system is current for you ssh problem with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:00
id1402in suse i have to make "SuSEconfig" after installing package in terminal with "yast -i package".21:01
foxbuntuid1402, sudo apt-get install <package_name>21:01
id1402ok.21:01
id1402thank you.21:01
id1402i will try.21:01
foxbuntuok21:01
foxbuntugl21:01
id1402foxbuntu: everything done.22:40
id1402system updated.22:40
id1402ssh still doesn't start at bootup.22:40
id1402bye.22:43
Linux7657 ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Seconda tvout help please23:34
MythbuntuGuest88hi23:43

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