[05:33] <Alex_21> I am installing using a CLI Version of Ubuntu
[05:34] <Alex_21> I want to make this box a front/backend
[05:34] <Alex_21> For MythTV
[05:34] <Alex_21> What packages do I install for a minimal install o mythtv
[05:34] <Alex_21> ? Please
[05:41] <rhpot1991> Alex_21: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mythtv-frontend
[05:41] <rhpot1991> and
[05:41] <rhpot1991> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mythtv-backend-master
[05:41] <rhpot1991> you can follow the dependencies there
[05:51] <Alex_21> Thanks
[05:51] <Alex_21> Now, what can I do. I have a box with free P
[05:52] <Alex_21> cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another bow with 256MB or RAM and 1.25 GHZ or CPU. How should I set it up?
[05:56] <Stemming78> Mythbuntu v9.04 Beta -  SYSTEM locks (crashes) when trying to manually input IMDB video #...  Is this a known issue - possible fixes?
[05:57] <Alex_21> cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another bow with 256MB or RAM and 1.25 GHZ or CPU. How should I set it up for best performance? I have no PCI Slots on the faster box
[06:10] <Alex_21> cI Slots but 266 MHZ of CPU and 512+ MB or RAM. I also have another box with 256MB of RAM and 1.25 GHZ ofCPU. How should I set it up for best performance? I have no PCI Slots on the faster box
[06:10] <Alex_21> Please
[06:16] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, its impolite to ask the same question more than once in an irc channel
[06:20] <Alex_21> I corrected typos
[06:20] <Alex_21> I'm sorry
[06:21] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, still not sure what you are asking however
[06:21] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, what is the problem you are having?
[06:22] <Alex_21> I don't know how best to set up the configuration
[06:22] <foxbuntu> you have two machines, one with a 266MHz CPU and 512M ram correct?
[06:23] <Alex_21> If I put my TV tuner in the Desktop with PCI slots free, should I network it to my other box for compression or will the other bow do it on its own?
[06:23] <Alex_21> Yes
[06:23] <foxbuntu> wow...thats an old one
[06:23] <foxbuntu> ...at any rate...it depends on the tuners you are using
[06:23] <Alex_21> Yes, PowerMac G3 Gosemer
[06:23] <foxbuntu> ah
[06:24] <Alex_21> It is a HTache Win-TV tuner
[06:24] <foxbuntu> thats a software encoder correct? (doesnt stream MPG)
[06:24] <Alex_21> It is the one shipping standard with the HP Invent boxes at the moment
[06:25] <Alex_21> No, that is the Tuner itself
[06:25] <foxbuntu> right
[06:25] <foxbuntu> does the tuner have hardware encoding?
[06:25] <Alex_21> I don't know
[06:25] <Alex_21> I'll check.
[06:25] <foxbuntu> as in it creates an MPG stream on the card then sends that to the PC
[06:25] <Alex_21> Can you give me an estimate either way
[06:25] <Alex_21> I mean lets say it doesn't
[06:26] <foxbuntu> I would likely say the 266MHz wont cut it
[06:26] <foxbuntu> even with Hardware encoding, you will be border line
[06:26] <Alex_21> Would it cut it if it has Hardware Encoding?
[06:26] <hads> It might. But that's kinda slow.
[06:26] <Alex_21> Well, then what can I do
[06:27] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, newer hardware?
[06:27] <Alex_21> Not a chance
[06:27] <hads> That would be the answer
[06:27] <hads> Okay, the other answer wouldbe don't make a media PC.
[06:27] <Alex_21> If I networked it to the other box can I save myself the trouble and just use this box as a relay?
[06:28] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, there really isnt much else you can do, the 266Mhz proc wasnt designed with video streams in mind
[06:28] <foxbuntu> nope
[06:28] <Alex_21> Grr
[06:28] <foxbuntu> the load it still on the device creating the stream
[06:28] <Alex_21> I have a Moterolla PVR with the latest firmware from my cable company
[06:29] <Alex_21> Can I use Firewire from that to watch all the channels?
[06:29] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, depends on your cable co...its hit and miss
[06:29] <foxbuntu> Alex_21, some cable cos even handle it different in different areas
[06:29] <Alex_21> Grr
[06:30] <Alex_21> That sucks
[06:30]  * foxbuntu is full of great news tonight
[06:30] <foxbuntu> :)
[06:30] <Alex_21> Ok, what else can I do. Isnt 266 MHZ good for anything?
[06:30] <hads> Not a lot no.
[06:30] <foxbuntu> uh
[06:30] <foxbuntu> solitare on win 98?
[06:30] <Alex_21> No, I mean something Recent
[06:31] <hads> No
[06:31] <rhpot1991> cli server
[06:31] <Alex_21> I just put money into upgrading periferals on the pyppy
[06:31] <foxbuntu> ?
[06:31] <hads> A low end targetted distro like puppy or something.
[06:31] <Alex_21> Puppy, ... Sorry
[06:31] <foxbuntu> as in ...who told you to do that?
[06:31] <hads> Or yeah, as rhpot1991 said, something without X
[06:31] <Alex_21> No one
[06:32] <foxbuntu> well I hope it didnt cost allot then
[06:32] <Alex_21> It is my only PPC Box that I can spear at the moment
[06:32] <Alex_21> Spare
[06:33] <Alex_21> Here is an idea. Is there a way to do the streaming without X?
[06:33] <rhpot1991> PPC is dead, sorry to inform you :)
[06:33] <Alex_21> Will that free up a lot of RAM/CPU?
[06:33]  * rhpot1991 just unhooked his B&W G3
[06:33] <Alex_21> I have the Beige G3
[06:34] <Alex_21> I need to use it for something
[06:34] <rhpot1991> Alex_21: not much anymore
[06:34] <Alex_21> Thin Client maybe
[06:34] <Alex_21> ?
[06:34] <tgm4883> doorstop?
[06:34] <rhpot1991> they struggle with OSX even
[06:34] <Alex_21> And trip over it
[06:34] <tgm4883> !%requirement%
[06:34] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about %requirement%
[06:35] <Alex_21> Well, maybe you guys know of something I can do because I have a computer without any PCI slots left
[06:35] <Alex_21> Or rather none at all
[06:36] <Alex_21> And It has a good CPU in it
[06:36] <Alex_21> But I don't know what to do to get the Win-TV Tuner inside of it
[06:37] <tgm4883> file server?
[06:37] <Alex_21> I bought the tuner thinking that the G3 would take it
[06:38] <Alex_21> Yes, the G3 will become a Thin Client with XFCE or something
[06:38] <Alex_21> If it can handle that
[06:38] <Alex_21> But I don't know how to get the tuner inside this other machine
[06:40] <Alex_21> Is there a FW to PCI Bridge or something?
[06:40] <Alex_21> My fingers are crossed
[06:41] <hads> You can uncross them.
[06:42] <Stemming78> Unable to locate anything on this, but was curious if there is an issue with MYTHVIDEO crashing when selecting option to manually input the IMDB number...  Using Mythbuntu v6.04 beta.  If no, where should I post the thread?
[06:42] <foxbuntu> hads, would you like to post the most awesome link tonight?
[06:42] <hads> huh?
[06:42] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, what version? are you on -fixes, -testing, or -trunk?
[06:43] <foxbuntu> hads, you know which link to post for hardware suggestions ;)
[06:43] <hads> Oh the spam.
[06:43] <Stemming78> foxbuntu: using v9.06 beta....  not sure of the second question
[06:43] <hads> s/(6.04|9.06)/9.04/
[06:44] <Alex_21> That is the only way to do this
[06:44] <Alex_21> Isn't there any such device?
[06:44] <Stemming78> sorry...  late...  9.04 beta
[06:44] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, oh you mean of Mythbuntu
[06:44] <hads> Stemming78: Using a weird theme or something?
[06:44] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, i havent heard anyone say anything...I havent tried it myself...I do Have a 9.04 beta machine running
[06:45] <foxbuntu> yeah which theme are you using?
[06:45] <foxbuntu> that could do it
[06:46] <Stemming78> hads: Had the "black" theme preloaded...  It has IMDB Search pasted on the screen (as if it is allowing you to search).  Switched to the "Blue" theme and that got rid of IMDB search field...  BOTH will lock the machine when trying to manually input the IMDB number
[06:47] <rhpot1991> I've seen the issue with the IMDB box always up, I haven't tried to search for something in a while though
[06:48] <Stemming78> Using "Mythcenter" now...   Projectgreyhem" has the issue when you load into Mythvideo setup
[06:49] <Alex_21> How can I use this PCI Module
[06:49] <Stemming78> Have a large library -    several movies cannot be found when searching - only option is to manually input it.
[06:49] <Alex_21> Is there a PCI mini to PCI adapter?
[06:50] <Stemming78> Should I open a thread for the issue -  if so, where and what log file is needed for the crash
[06:53] <Stemming78> Trying to help with the "bugs"...  Only issue I have come across...
[06:55] <hads> I've not seen it
[06:57] <Stemming78> To trying to be bothersome, but what do you all suggest I do for the issue?  IMDB Search = lock
[06:58] <Stemming78> *not
[06:58] <superm1> tmdb instead
[06:58] <superm1> or omdb?
[06:58] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[06:58] <Alex_21> Good night
[06:58] <superm1> if one of them works better for you we can set it default for installs
[06:59] <superm1> just need to let people know
[07:01] <Stemming78> superm1: Is this the new tagging agent for 9.0?  If so, how do I switch to it?
[07:02] <Stemming78> I have never seen either before...
[07:06] <Stemming78> superm1:   Do I need to follow this to get it to work?  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl
[07:06] <Stemming78> Or is it preinstalled?
[07:12] <hads> TMDB and TTVDB are the way forward
[07:15] <Stemming78> OMDB has a better coverage of movies, but TMDB has the nicest cover boxes...
[07:15] <Stemming78> Is IMDB getting scrapped?
[07:17] <hads> TMDB is based on OMDB
[07:18] <hads> And IMDB use from myth is getting scrapped, it violates their ToS
[07:24] <Stemming78> hads:  so that explains IMDB being broke in 9.04...   I suppose it works is v8.10...   Eventually there is going to be an update that will install the tmdb.pl  script and update the script settings in Video Settings / General - page 4/7
[07:24] <Stemming78> I sthat correct to assume? or will I need to manually do this?
[07:24] <hads> Stemming78: It doesn't actually explain it 'cause it's being removed in myth trunk, 9.04 is still based on 0.21
[07:24] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, I think its included in MythTV .22
[07:25] <Stemming78> Ahh...  thanks for clarifying that...
[07:26] <hads> Oh, and yeah, the tmdb scrips are in trunk
[07:26] <Stemming78> One last question...  Is the theme supporting the "switch"?  wont crash?
[07:27] <foxbuntu> Stemming78, what switch?
[07:27] <Stemming78> *that is wont crash as result of the theme
[07:27] <Stemming78> tmdb
[07:27] <foxbuntu> it will
[07:27] <hads> The whole mythvideo metadata thing is being changed in trunk
[07:27] <foxbuntu> we have to redo the entire thing for .22 any how
[07:27] <Stemming78> ok... so wait would be the answer
[07:27] <foxbuntu> :)
[07:27] <Stemming78> THANKS!
[07:35] <MythbuntuGuest13> installing mythtv but it says i need qt how do I install that?
[07:36] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest13, are you using the packages?
[07:38] <MythbuntuGuest13> This is what I did
[07:38] <MythbuntuGuest13> http://pastebin.com/m242e3c57
[07:39] <MythbuntuGuest13> Changing name to eric_
[07:40] <eric_> I went to the mythtv wiki to install from there using the latest source code and installing the prereqs
[07:48] <eric_> nevermind installed qt3 package and now running
[12:39] <mycosys> hi guys - I appear to be missing an Xlib.h and an XvMclib.h - any clues http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d63aa1caf
[14:29] <Ymse2> In the "Connect source to input" the fields scan for channels is shaded. What have I forgotten???
[17:37] <piglit> hello there what was the command (in command line) to check if your hard disk is working in the right order?
[17:38] <tgm4883> piglit, not sure what you mean
[17:45] <piglit> tgm4883: i have got a new hard disk and i want to check if it is broken i thought i saw a error when booting but it went by to fast
[17:45] <tgm4883> if it's broken?
[17:45] <tgm4883> well you can check if it's mounted by typing "mount"
[17:45] <piglit> well it is mounted
[17:46] <piglit> isnt there something like a checkdisk?
[17:47] <tgm4883> you could fsck it, but should unmount it first
[17:48] <piglit> so that way i wont be able to check the boot partition?
[17:49] <tgm4883> um correct?   I'm not really sure
[17:49] <tgm4883> you could boot a live cd and fsck all of it
[17:52] <piglit> cant i just look up the boot msg i saw it must be saved somewhere i ques?
[17:56] <tgm4883> dmesg perhaps
[17:56] <tgm4883> or /var/log/syslog
[20:41] <id1402> hello.
[20:41] <id1402> how can i make sshd start automatically on mythbuntu?
[20:42] <id1402> i have to make "/etc/init.d/ssh start" every time aufter reboot.
[20:46] <foxbuntu> id1402, then something is broken on your system, it should start on its own.
[20:49] <id1402> lol.
[20:49] <id1402> ok.
[20:50] <id1402> there was another problem. mythbuntu detected an update of base-files.
[20:50] <id1402> but wasn't able to install because url was wrong.
[20:50] <id1402> how to fix it.
[20:51] <id1402> mythbuntu 8.10 here.
[20:52] <id1402> installing packages from internet works.
[20:53] <foxbuntu> id1402, sudo apt-get update
[20:53] <id1402> but update of base-files says "wrong url" or "cannot connect to server" something like this..
[20:53] <foxbuntu> your repo list is out of date
[20:53] <id1402> why is the repo list of the new mythbuntu out of date?
[20:53] <id1402> i will try "sudo apt-get update".
[20:54] <foxbuntu> id1402, its a package list in the repos, it tells your machine what version is currently in the repo
[20:54] <foxbuntu> you need to update it before installing packages (if you havent done so in awhile)
[20:54] <id1402> ok.
[20:55] <foxbuntu> and the repo list from the install disk is never the current one
[20:55] <id1402> i already have instsalled packages successfully.
[20:55] <id1402> from internet repo.
[20:55] <foxbuntu> id1402, dont do things that way...you could break things
[20:55] <id1402> it was mc.
[20:55] <foxbuntu> always try to use apt-get or synaptic
[20:55] <id1402> mc was the first program i installed manually.
[20:56] <foxbuntu> well thats ok
[20:56] <foxbuntu> because that done with apt-url
[20:56] <foxbuntu> I mean dont go manually to the repos and download the debs then install
[20:56] <foxbuntu> just use the repos the way your supposed to
[20:56] <id1402> no no.
[20:57] <id1402> i used this grafically software management tool.
[20:57] <id1402> the yast of ubuntu.
[20:57] <foxbuntu> once updated you can make sure everything you need is installed with: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:57] <foxbuntu> id1402, thats likely Synaptic
[20:58] <id1402> yes.
[20:58] <foxbuntu> thats ok as well
[20:58] <foxbuntu> like I said, apt-get, or synaptic
[20:59] <id1402> i prefer apt-get if i know package name.
[20:59] <foxbuntu> id1402, you can search for packages with apt-cache search <package_name>
[21:00] <id1402> ah ok.
[21:00] <foxbuntu> but again update first if you havent done so in awhile
[21:00] <id1402> is there any command to make after "apt-get install"?
[21:00] <foxbuntu> id1402, I would suggest you make sure your system is current for you ssh problem with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:01] <id1402> in suse i have to make "SuSEconfig" after installing package in terminal with "yast -i package".
[21:01] <foxbuntu> id1402, sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[21:01] <id1402> ok.
[21:01] <id1402> thank you.
[21:01] <id1402> i will try.
[21:01] <foxbuntu> ok
[21:01] <foxbuntu> gl
[22:40] <id1402> foxbuntu: everything done.
[22:40] <id1402> system updated.
[22:40] <id1402> ssh still doesn't start at bootup.
[22:43] <id1402> bye.
[23:34] <Linux7657>  ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Seconda tvout help please
[23:43] <MythbuntuGuest88> hi