[00:10] abstrakt called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:10] * genii sips [04:11] jussi01: ping [04:13] Is ubuntuforums still lime green and neon pink or is it finally finished with? [04:24] it's been gone for several hours [04:24] the theme could be changed in the bottom left [04:25] Thank goodness. I didn't want to have to wait til after noon in Samoa or something [05:12] ubottus still dead [05:28] Figures. As soon as I ban someone [05:50] #ubuntu is an addiction. It doesn't matter what else is going on in my life, I have to have a fix [05:53] nickrud: First support request is free.... [06:10] Flannel: council are able to restart it [06:10] Flannel: i didn't this time, but if it dies, prod one of us === Ubotwo` is now known as Ubotwo === rnM_LFml is now known as LjL [07:18] Flannel, you at least marked it, yes? [07:19] elky: ubottu wasn't in the room, how could I mark it? [07:19] I intend to go back and annotate the ban, yes. [07:26] Flannel, i meant after ubottu returned. with @mark etc [07:26] elky: That doesn't make sense. I'm supposed to mark the log with almost no scrollback? [07:27] But, ubottu picked up the ban from the list, and I gave some background for it. [07:30] oh, it picks up from the list now? nice [07:31] with a little manual intervention [07:32] and (apparently) treats @mark's as bans... [07:32] and so marks those as removed [07:38] ugh [09:18] any #k ops awake? [09:18] beside me ofcourse (: [09:19] bug [09:19] bug 350732 [09:19] Launchpad bug 350732 in asterisk "IAX2 encryption: calls end abrutly due to normal packet loss" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350732 [09:28] * genii wanders in with a coffee [09:28] Tm_T: I just got here but not too awake [09:28] roger, see logs of that troll? might return I believe [09:29] Tm_T: underbyte ? [09:29] aye [09:29] I rarely see that obviously a troublemaker [09:29] though I could be wrong as always [09:29] OK, I'll keep an eye out. although it's about 4:30 am [09:29] np, I'm here for a while still [09:30] I seem to miss all excitement :( #k is rarely a problem usually [09:30] indeed [09:54] ikonia, sometimes i think it'd be a good idea to have something like #ubuntu-dont-try-this-at-home to direct people who ask for instructions to break their computer [09:54] elky: I'm watching him as he was just removed from #fedora/#centos for the same thing [09:54] "I want it to run like windows" etc [09:55] %90 certain it's a troll attempt [09:55] the nick *is* familiar [09:55] what nick? [09:55] thefeds [09:55] @bansearch thefeds [09:55] No matches found for thefeds!n=user@c122-106-176-2.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au in any channel [09:55] aaaa [09:57] @btlogin [09:59] he's in BT from 2 weeks ago [10:17] In #ubuntu-cn, iNutshell said: !jaunty is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [10:24] jyf1987_: hello there ? [10:24] jyf1987_: how can we help [10:26] * jussi01 waves in ikonia's direction [10:26] hello [10:26] @bansearch jyf1987_ [10:26] No matches found for jyf1987_!n=jyf1987@122.234.48.190 in any channel [10:31] topyli: you failed (: [10:32] Tm_T: irssi's auto_bleh.pl doesn't use remove automatically :( [10:32] * topyli learns [10:32] I know (: [10:35] teh sev eas is wiser! [10:36] you don't need the space if he's not here ;) [10:37] you never know! [10:41] that's a real circus, that -ot [11:03] topyli, time for some sed action then [11:04] !search jussi01 [11:04] Found: ops-#ubuntustudio, ops, ops-#kubuntu-devel, ops-#kubuntu, jussi01, owner, ops-#kubuntu-offtopic [11:05] !no, jussi01 is Careful! [11:05] I'll remember that jussi01 [11:09] elky: nah, it's an user error. /ak versus /ar [11:10] ah [11:10] technical solutions to social problems are not always bad [11:11] heh. chanserv.py is more topyli friendly. it thinks ahead: "he really means remove even tough he says kick" [11:12] realias time instead ;) [11:45] * ikonia phones x_'s isp that he works for to tell him he's on IRC during the working day :) [11:46] * Myrtti slaps her hands for wanting to toss in !offtopic to #ubuntu [11:48] done it [11:53] * jussi01 prods ikonia [12:02] 12:01 -!- * ikoniaz H 0 n=x@208.70.103.41 [x] [12:02] user I've just banned clearly going to try to be an issue [12:06] he was x_ - now has come back as ikoniaz [12:07] florin? [12:07] no [12:07] well, not that I know of [12:07] is his ip muted? [12:07] he was in #ubuntu as x_ got banned came back as ikoniaz (ban obviously blocked him) [12:07] Gary: ip banned [12:08] no doubt he's pm'ing people in #debian or something else [12:08] don't mind as long as it's on record it's n ot me [12:08] not me [12:08] ikonia: pm'd it [12:08] ah [12:09] if he's doing nothing I don't care, just good chance of naughtyness after telling me I couldn't ban him as he worked at an ISP - then logged straight back in as "me" [12:09] is ikonia a troll DLange? wth [12:09] lol [12:09] pot meet kettle :/ [12:09] hello Bambi03, how can we help you? [12:10] lulz at #freenode [12:11] that yamata is fujisan? [12:11] Myrtti, im looking for a Ubuntu channel were i can search for people to interview for our master thesis about Ubuntu, without getting kicked out [12:11] is he? [12:11] new ip and ident if so [12:11] Bambi03: I'm sure if you asked in #ubuntu-offtopic a few people would let you pm them for an interview [12:12] when i try joining ubuntu-offtopic im ending at this channel [12:12] ahh [12:12] @bansearch Bambi03 [12:12] Match: *!*@130.225.195.134!#ubuntu-ops by jussi01 in #ubuntu-offtopic on Apr 01 2009 09:26:56 (ID: 11905) [12:12] aah [12:13] so i joined that channel and posted our notice, but i guess they felt i was floating [12:13] ahh you flooded/spammed the channel [12:13] Bambi03: the last time you asked in -offtopic, you used a cut and paste and spammed the channel with flood [12:13] the notice isn't very cut'n'paste IRC friendly [12:14] Bambi03: it might be more effective to actually talk to people, not paste a premade script [12:14] if I take the ban off, would you mind rewording it to shorter, about 160char long thing, with a link to the notice of yours? [12:14] no i realised afterwords, been along time since i used IRC, not sinse Counter strike [12:15] I will do that, thanks, [12:15] you can enter the channel now [12:15] thank you for your help [12:16] ikoniaz is now known as ikonia_ <-- ikonia [12:16] yup [12:16] gary is all over it though [12:16] just leaving well alone [12:16] Bambi03: can we help you in any other way? [12:16] ikonia: on it, I don't like impersonation [12:17] Gary: not even batting an eyelid - I can see you're on it [12:17] * Myrtti gives Gary cookies and tea [12:17] only if you want to get interviewet :) [12:17] my Ubuntu is working fine [12:18] ha ha, he couldn't use ikonia_ as it is my linked nick with nickserv protection on [12:18] heh [12:18] he wants a cloak haha [12:18] he doesn't hes just messing around [12:18] shades of panarchy [12:19] although clearly not the l33t ISP guru he said he was, as hes not managed to change his IP / ident yet [12:19] also is not a new user, as they know ip bans ignore cloaks [12:20] Bambi03: if there is nothing else, please leave this channel. ops need it for work [12:20] is rich serious ? [12:20] *snigger* [12:20] tabfail [12:20] oh [12:20] who where? [12:20] what? when? [12:20] #freenode [12:21] ikonia: lol [12:21] they're stealin' ur nicks [12:21] nom nom nom [12:21] !idle | Bambi03 [12:21] Bambi03: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [12:21] Gary, Yamata *IS* panarchy [12:21] that ended that argument [12:21] *snigger* [12:21] elky: ooh rally that's panarchy's 3rd kline evade [12:21] elky: how do you know that [12:21] Gary, he stalked me over to OSDC and swapped to that nick after being told to go away [12:22] whoa [12:22] er, oftc [12:22] he impersonated fujisan (yamata) [12:22] elky: do you mean fujisan - not panarchy [12:22] oh, i'm confusing panarchy fujisan [12:22] ahhh [12:22] * elky headdesks [12:22] although, i'm yet to be convinced they're not the same [12:22] haha [12:22] Gary: "thanks" [12:23] they both think cloaks give them free access [12:23] Gary, ignore me. i'm not lucid [12:23] elky: sure :-) [12:24] they're all freaks. confusing them for each other cannot be helped [12:25] yep [12:25] indeed [12:25] sorry did elky say something? [12:25] and somewhere they meet and plot.. [12:25] * jussi01 plots against bazhang :P [12:26] bwahahahha [12:26] oof [12:26] badumtish [12:26] gee, that freenode staffer gary is so silly, dont you all agree? [12:27] tell me how to autologin root [12:27] :/ [12:28] again? [12:28] he, again? [12:30] wget is such a lovely thing [12:31] jussi01: I had to laugh. Even in his apology he had to use a short form [12:32] genii: yeah... [12:32] I tell you he is gonna get a 24h ban soon. [12:32] cause it just keeps happening... [12:36] chowder and fogobogo are known archlinux-offtopic trolls fyi [12:37] fogobogo is ban evading [12:37] @bansearch fogobogo [12:37] No matches found for fogobogo!n=fogobogo@port-92-202-112-3.dynamic.qsc.de in any channel [12:37] I banned him the other day from #ubuntu [12:38] ahh he's in -ot - sorry [12:38] you know, we could take the #debian-fr approach (re #ubuntu*) to this and just ban on-sight anyone from that channel in ours [12:38] and chowder is being a bit rude imo [12:38] oh, it's not april 1st any more? darn. [12:39] talking about trolling #debian [12:39] I'll change fogobo's ban to a nick ban rather than IP as he's changed that [12:39] and micca just appeared in #debian [12:40] lol ok so shall we head over and all ask somethign silly with ubuntu? ;) [12:43] oh dear... [12:43] elky: yes [12:43] genii: say something nice to eagles... I cant... [12:43] I'm ready to kb him and chowder and fogobogo from #ubuntu just on general trolling planning [12:43] I'm actually tempted to visit there now [12:44] bazhang: fogobogo isn't in #ubuntu [12:44] ikonia, oh right my mistake [12:46] just made the same [12:46] * [JustKemp] (n=matt@d58-110-93-184.rdl2.qld.optusnet.com.au): purple [12:46] wth is this trolling day? [12:46] i can *feel* my intelligence dropping just watching that crap [12:47] Australia FTW \o/ [12:47] I think there might be some gentoo troll in #u [12:48] Gary, are all these twits in the same channel somewhere? [12:48] re4moved [12:48] argh [12:48] it looked like a bot [12:48] (other than -ot) [12:49] Myrtti: I realised after a couple more comments by it that it was indeed a bot [12:52] i think it's time to op up as a general warning, yes? [12:53] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (JustKemp) [12:53] woops sorry elky [12:53] did not see you op up [12:54] seems a bit of a stupid day today [12:55] Darn. I was hoping he'd regale us of his insightful discusssion with the bot [12:55] i' [12:55] i am quite sick of all this lag [12:55] i wonder if it's the server i'm connecting to, or australian latency [12:55] ready to ban thefeds [12:56] i think it's time to reconfig bip and restart [12:56] bazhang: yup [12:56] Bah "how hard is it to get permabanned" etc etc etc [12:58] can I mute him yet? [12:59] please [12:59] Well, 8AM and I'm still up from the night before. Time for sleep. Have fun. [13:00] night genii [13:01] thefeds reminds me of [2]/another nick; also spent some time in #kubuntu iirc [13:01] cant remember the other nick though [13:02] [I> So here you aSo here you are, talking to a robot. (via PM) [13:02] bed for me too. ciao [13:03] bazhang: close the window, forget about it [13:03] ikonia, ban it first? [13:04] not seen him, dunno [13:04] he's back after being removed [13:04] s/he/it [13:12] getting tired of curtis knowingly trying to ban dodge [13:12] ah wondered who that was [13:13] his "school changed it's ip" [13:13] yet he's banned by nick [13:14] changed his nick from curtis to "cuti" then joined ubuntu, [13:14] I watched him do it, came onto the server as curtis, then changed to "curt" to dodge the ban, nothing to do with ip [13:14] at least be a bit more clever, sheesh. [13:14] removing a single letter is not exactly great spycraft [13:16] I wonder if it's worth getting staff to take a look at it as the ban dodging must be on like his 10th attempt [13:17] entering sken/dingding territory there [13:20] @login [13:20] The operation succeeded. [13:21] @mark #ubuntu curt curtis ban dodgine again, tried curti to get past nick ban, then "james" to get past nick ban, still picked up on ident, although he has changed IP again [13:21] The operation succeeded. [13:22] @bansearch 96.242.112.34 [13:22] No matches found for 96.242.112.34!*@* in any channel [13:38] bansearch only searches for bans on online (or recently online) nicks [13:41] yup [14:04] !tea is a very British beverage made from infusing leaves of various tea plants in hot water. [14:04] I'll remember that, Mez [14:08] Huufarted called the ops in #ubuntu (magishen) [14:08] nick: Magishen, shouting, cursing, HELP ME HELP, etc. [14:08] bye [14:08] oh, at #ubuntu [14:16] 14:16 -!- Tcl [n=EggDrop@bzq-84-108-200-162.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu [14:16] bot ? [14:17] tcl and eggdrop... matches... [14:17] action ? [14:17] mute ? [14:17] didn't respond to !list [14:18] ok, it's not a b ot [14:18] looks human [14:18] responds like a human [14:20] @mark #ubuntu jarie 14:19 you're muted in the channel until you can learn to discuss things properly and objectivly [14:20] The operation succeeded. [14:20] 14:19 fuck you bitch [14:23] lovely [14:24] I feel loved [14:28] @bansearch miik [14:28] No matches found for miik!n=lolcat@c-e313e455.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se in any channel [14:28] ahh I'm sure he was a problem in #ubuntu the other day [14:28] he was [14:33] kget? linuxrevolution [15:03] :0 [15:05] Not actually on the ipod, just don't want to remove my other connection [15:05] hehe [15:06] I could be ZarroBoogs again, but that confuses people and scares LjL [15:07] LjL: us.archive is in London. [15:07] Curious, isn't it' [15:07] better he be scared Picipod :) [15:08] jpds: quite [15:08] jpds: i know, but not my fault, it's *supposed* to be the mirror "closest" to US residents... [15:12] but nobody has stepped up to run a US wide mirror though have they? [15:12] because they'd get flooded on release day [15:12] hence why us. still points to the box in the uk === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [16:07] In ubottu, spapawan said: hi this is pawan saxena. my business web is www.spaindia.net let us chat business !! [16:07] lol [16:07] banned already [16:09] let us chat business! [16:10] Pici: how long did it take you to type that? [16:10] LjL: very quickly. I just read it. [16:22] nalioth, could you set keeptopic/topiclock for #ubuntu-proxy-users? the channel had no topic and we ṕrobably aren't looking at it very often [16:23] Picipod: you're actually trying to give support in #ubuntu from an ipod? you're crazy [16:23] ROFL [16:23] LjL: I'm actually on mibbit. I don't want to sacrifice my logs on my other nick. [16:23] Plus my ZarroBoogs nick scared you. [16:24] ah... [16:24] Picipod: yeah well zarro means something i think might be akin to "chav", but scarier, in italian :P [16:24] LjL: That is scary. [16:25] LjL: If you search for something on Bugzilla, and no results are returned, it says "Zarro boogs found" [16:27] oh. [16:36] is Mellie known? (realname reminds me of something) [16:37] uhm, yes they are. === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefrak === gnomefrak is now known as gnomefreak [16:41] Picipod: oh "zarro boogs" is a bugzilla thing? i thought it was just gnome's bugzilla [16:41] topyli: indeed [16:41] Picipod: #ubuntu - [17:41:07] anybody suggest a good time tracker suitable for billing customers? [16:41] should be your realm :P [16:42] Picipod: meh, and here i've been thinking all these years "oh those gnome hackers are so funny" [16:43] hi mellie [16:43] can we help you? [16:44] I wil [16:44] Sorry wrong channel [16:44] sure. [16:44] wrong channel my pants [16:49] lol [16:50] Mehdi: Mibbit is currently banned from #ubuntu-offtopic [16:50] due to abuse, i guess [16:50] thanks [16:50] actually, I've never entered that channel before [16:50] Mehdi: wait a minute please [16:50] ty [16:51] Mehdi: i've set a temporary exception for you to join [16:51] awesome, i appreciate it [16:51] hi thiebaude [16:51] hi ljl [16:53] Mehdi: if you have no other issues to enquire operators about, please part this channel [16:56] Amaranth: any specific reason you banned the whole of mibbit from -offtopic? [16:56] because mibbit is iiiiivil [16:56] is not [16:57] mibbit will be wonderful when i setup my giant firefox-only web-appliance in the living room [16:57] *snork* [17:12] Picipod: best nick of the day, thank you [17:12] i'll just remove the ban on mibbit for now, and change it into an ident ban on the actual offender [17:20] *sigh* lots of newbies on +1 again [17:21] along with smartasses who tell them they're using an inferior text editor to edit their menu.lst [17:22] I wonder [17:22] topyli: well, it's well known that inferior text editors produce inferior quality config files which may more easily break [17:23] topyli: are you often doing support in +1? [17:24] i try not to [17:24] i sometimes go there to talk about, you know, what the channel is for. but i end up trying to tell newbies nicely to use a stable system [17:25] topyli: eh well you might consider asking for op privs in there, it's neglected by a majority of the ops me included [17:25] I'm active in there a fair bit [17:25] can't blame you LjL [17:26] ikonia: i said a majority, not all of them [17:30] !etiquette > xs67634 (xs67634, see the private message from ubottu) [17:33] 7/whois xs67634 [17:33] is he known ? [17:33] oh, he's well gone [17:33] ikonia: he was on something that might have been a proxy, too [17:34] great [17:34] ikonia: whowas him [17:34] did - hence how I know he's gone [17:34] ikonia: and you also know that comcast address wasn't really his own [17:35] yup [17:35] you can see it maps to something else in the whowas [17:43] topyli: meh, he can't even ask the right question *which he already asked us previously* [17:44] topyli: of course you know why he can't register? [17:44] he's banned of course [17:44] topyli: no, well maybe, but i don't think so [17:44] topyli: /msg nickserv help register gives you /msg nickserv register [17:44] he's putting the < > there [17:45] could bet on it [17:45] ahhh [17:47] very advanced [17:49] topyli: oh god, it's even worse than i thought [17:49] hehehe [18:00] topyli: alright, that's one more highlight for me *sigh* [18:01] i wonder if poor ubuntucop lives long [18:02] gentlemen, I will leave you to the nut house [18:02] enjoy [18:06] hmmmm, I notice snuxoll has joined to our channel, welcome [18:09] oh, am I still in here [18:09] hehe, oops [18:09] snuxoll: go away [18:09] troll [18:09] LjL: fine, be that way ): [18:09] you want a ban? UH? YOU WANT A BAN? [18:10] I do? [18:11] that Tm_T guy should have been baned long ago... [18:11] :P [18:11] I agree [18:23] I believe all the trolls aree from Australia [18:24] (and Italy) [18:25] Myrtti: you only say that because you use an inferior operating system. [18:57] bleah [18:57] -ot is becoming the troll pit, and club the serious channel [19:02] oh dear... [19:02] where the heck has facebook hidden the make a new event now? [20:25] In ubottu, bimberi said: ooo3 is OpenOffice.org 3 packages are available via https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa [20:25] !ooo3 [20:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about ooo3 [20:25] !ooo [20:25] a free and open source office suite that includes word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". For (unofficial) repositories containing OpenOffice.org 3, see https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa. User help available in #openoffice.org. [20:30] Hi. Please ignore my !ooo3 request. LjL has applied the cluebat to me appropriately :) [20:31] In #ubuntu+1, MTecknology said: !76 is System 76 offers some free material such as flyers and stickers. http://knowledge76.com/index.php/76er_Program [20:31] nah, that wasn't a cluebat [20:33] * LjL won't add that factoid unless someone knows more about that [20:35] someone should make a bot that bans anyone with an unhealthy amount of 'l's in their name [20:36] like me? [20:37] well it's 66%, so... [20:37] maaaaaaaybe [22:20] cwillu: how may we mess with you today? [22:20] bjsnider in #ubuntu+1 is kinda disturbing the peace I think [22:20] lemme see [22:21] I mean, "visual studio" isn't really a good answer for "what's a good editor for systems programming", no? [22:21] of course, now he's stopped, so nevermind :p [22:26] @bansearch Iceman_B^Ltop [22:26] No matches found for iceman_b^ltop!n=ice@41-163.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net in any channel [22:26] icebuntu ? [22:33] hai [22:33] i'm banned from #ubuntu [22:33] but i never joined 0.o [22:33] yes [22:33] hi core [22:34] let me check something [22:34] oh lol [22:34] not sure what's funny, but ok [22:35] sllide: you can join now [22:35] <22:31> sllide: ask about that in #ubuntu-ops please [22:35] thats funny [22:36] really? [22:36] tnx [22:36] i lol @ everything [22:36] well, try to avoid doing that too much in #ubuntu please :) [22:36] !lol [22:36] Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [22:37] :) [22:37] i lold at it XD [22:40] sllide: well, sorry for the inconvenience, and enjoy #ubuntu [22:40] tnx [22:40] i wasnt going to talk anyway [22:41] only lol? [22:41] * Tm_T hides [22:42] no nothing [22:42] i was so bored i joined the channel with the most users [22:42] to read [22:42] i not even have ubuntu XD [22:42] sllide: please leave if there isn't anything else you need [22:43] does that one person mind? [22:43] i'm reading and trying to learn about ubuntu [22:44] bcuz i'm maiby going to download it [22:45] !idle [22:45] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [22:45] :< [22:46] oh you ment this channel [22:46] oh [23:25] <_VIM_> Hi if anyone was wondering if gnorris is up to no good, he's ok... he asked a few times in #Ubuntu if anyone needed help and to PM him, i kind of thought that was suspicious, like maybe he's telling people to sudo rm -rf stuff, So i told him i needed help with evolution, he really does help. ok thats all i wanted to say, bye :D [23:31] still, malicious or not, he needs to stop that... [23:43] (Flaret is me and i'm trying to find out whether gnorris might actually be malicious, i've not gone crazi[er]) [23:45] LjL: don't worry, didn't think that was possible [23:45] Seeker`: i *might* just hit the +b button by mistake, though [23:46] [00:45:36] <-- eros331 has left this server ("Signal to noise ratio too high. Thanks anyhow."). [23:46] didn't he mean "too low" there? [23:47] no, things was getting too clear, making trolling harder? [23:47] possible [23:53] hi gnorris [23:53] hea [23:53] the rude rude person who "parted" you was me [23:53] you were told several times to stop spamming the channel with offers to help [23:53] thats nice i was in the middle of helping someone [23:53] it's fine to help [23:53] it's not fine to spam the channel with such pointless messages [23:53] it's a help channel [23:53] im im the midddle of helping some one [23:53] bye [23:54] that's.... [23:54] ... a banforward [23:54] @mark #ubuntu-ops gnorris Very uncooperative here. [23:54] The operation succeeded. [23:54] hehe [23:54] he'll be back then? [23:55] if he tries to join again. [23:55] [00:55:11] What [23:55] [00:55:32] you won't be allowed back into #ubuntu until we're finished with that discussion. [23:56] [00:55:47] Are you an administrator [23:56] [00:55:56] administrator of what? [23:56] [00:56:02] please join #ubuntu-ops [23:57] LjL [23:57] hi again [23:57] gnorris, as i was saying [23:57] 1) spamming the channel, even if it's with offers to help, is not acceptable [23:58] it's nice that you help - but it wouldn't be at all nice if everyone spammed the channel continuously with "does anyone need help?" messages [23:58] 2) helping users to solve problems in PM isn't normal practice [23:58] you let me say [23:58] ok [23:58] i had stop saying [23:58] it [23:59] helping them in the channel, instead, lets other people find any mistakes or things that went unnoticed [23:59] i had to ask again because i needed to find the person that asked me [23:59] but i was parted [23:59] feel free to ask whether you can PM someone when a support issue becomes very complicated, or so [23:59] but i'm not a fan of PM-by-default [23:59] i do ask them [23:59] also when talking in channel, some others may learn from it too [23:59] they usually accept