[00:00] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, yes
[00:00] <vigo> abstrakt: My apologies, you can choose almost any GNU/GPL or whatever for the interface, I like Gnome,KDE, and others.
[00:00] <llecc> join #vim
[00:00] <gausie> oCean_: when i ammend it, the line reads "root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash init=/bin/sh
[00:01] <oCean_> Waldir: that is weird. When I browse to, say, my homedir and right-click > properties, then I go to the tab the is called Open With, then there is either one (the default) application, or more applications I can choose from
[00:01] <Waldir> yes, me too, but no radio buttons ~^
[00:01] <abstrakt> ok, and so how do i install updatedb/locate? what package are they in?
[00:02] <abstrakt> vigo, k, so... what was the question/concern again?
[00:02] <oCean_> gausie: well, you can remove the quiet and splash part, but I'm not sure whether that will do the trick.
[00:02] <woski> I just got sound working over hdmi for media on myth, but it's not getting sound from the TV card (via pci).  any thoughts?
[00:03] <oCean_> Waldir: Right-click and not the list you see at THAT point
[00:03] <oCean_> Waldir: (just to make sure)
[00:03] <vigo> abstract: something about interfaces, there are many choices
[00:03] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[00:03] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, I know :)
[00:04] <gausie> oCean_: The tail of it is "Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... Done. Done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done.", then a flashing underscore
[00:04] <gausie> oCean_: if it helps, im using linux mint
[00:06] <oCean_> Waldir: ok. Just to make sure we're on the same page. See here my example: http://imagebin.org/44015
[00:06] <abstrakt> vigo, something about them?
[00:06] <abstrakt> vigo, well that helps</sarcasm>
[00:07] <oCean_> gausie: and you are not able to input anything?
[00:07] <gausie> oCean_: well i can write on the screen as much as i like, but its not doing anything
[00:07] <vigo> abstract: You originally asked about the gnome desktop, there are many, KDE,Gnome,XFCE, and roll your own.
[00:07] <oCean_> gausie: Understood. it might be different on mint. Then, you should try the livecd I think
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, er... no i didn't ask anything
[00:08] <gausie> oCean_: ok, thanks for the help!
[00:08] <oCean_> gausie: sure. good luck
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i'm quite aware that there are lots of options
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i've used FVWM, OpenBox, BlackBox, XFCE, WindowMaker, you name it
[00:08] <llecc> i'm using vim 7.1 on ubuntu 8.10. "set ruler" isn't working... any ideas how to fix that?
[00:08] <abstrakt> vigo, i used to run *nix as my primary desktop for about 5 years
[00:08] <eqisow> Does anybody know if you can encrypt a LVM volume that already has data on it?
[00:08] <vigo> abstract: Then you have my apologies, I am trying to get this silly phone thing working, It is all fun.
[00:08] <abstrakt> llecc, yeah, ask #vim
[00:09] <llecc> abstrakt: it works for everybody there not using ubuntu... they don't know how to solve
[00:09] <llecc> abstrakt: not mention that it was obviously the first place i asked... so next time, if you don't know the answer, just shut the fuck up you goddamn negro
[00:09] <abstrakt> llecc, ...
[00:09] <abstrakt> wow
[00:10] <abstrakt> !ops ?
[00:10] <abstrakt> !ops
[00:10] <FloodBot2> abstrakt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <TwoToneSpirit> Hey - does anybody have experience with WPA2 connections?  When I open the dialog to choose a CA Certificate, I have no idea where to look.
[00:10] <Waldir> oCean_: http://imagebin.org/44017
[00:12] <oCean_> Waldir: That might be because this file has no association just yet. So, there is no default app to start with
[00:12] <gausie> i wiped all the groups my account wsa in. i'm using a live disk to add myself to the groups again, but which should i be in by default?
[00:12] <Waldir> but there is. it's a text file
[00:12] <Waldir> oCean_: right now the default is "text editor" (gedit)
[00:12] <dreamy> hello room
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, what kind of file is that?
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, is it literally a plain text file?
[00:13] <Frijolie> can anyone help me get my portable media player to mount?
[00:13] <oCean_> Waldir: But in the screenshot it says "wikimedia logos" and NOT .txt
[00:13] <abstrakt> Waldir, or is it some special archive...
[00:13] <Frijolie> this last kernel update has killed it (it no longer automounts)
[00:14] <Waldir> abstrakt: no, I created it with gedit :)
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, k... and you want to open it with...
[00:14] <abstrakt> ?
[00:14] <oCean_> Waldir: It does know the filetype, but apperantly the association is based on the .txt extension?
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, i don't understand the problem
[00:14] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: did you need any additional modules?
[00:14] <vigo> Fspot or some image thing, could be a png, or HTML
[00:14] <slimjimflim> anybody know what command 'system -> preferences -> sound' runs?
[00:14] <Waldir> I want to open it with leafpad
[00:14] <Waldir> oCean_: I'll try adding txt then
[00:14] <abstrakt> Waldir, yeah most file type detections in Nautilus i think are done with name extensions... though i think there's an option to have nautilus check filetypes based on contents also
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, not to my knowledge
[00:15] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: kernel updates often mean you need to reinstall kernel modules
[00:15] <abstrakt> Waldir, what's leafpad?
[00:15] <lstarnes> slimjimflim: gnome-sound-properties
[00:15] <slimjimflim> ty
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, I don't remember adding any additional models
[00:15] <Waldir> abstrakt: it's just another text editor.. much lighter
[00:15] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, er modules
[00:15] <oCean_> Waldir: yes. As I said you can add leafpad as 'custom' app to that list, and then set it default for that type
[00:15] <abstrakt> Waldir, ah
[00:16] <oCean_> Waldir: and yes, the list gets longer that way, but that is hardly a problem I think
[00:16] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: what type is it? did it just as as a normal mass media device?
[00:16] <abstrakt> Waldir, or you could open leafpad, and then just drag'n'drop the file into it
[00:16] <abstrakt> Waldir, that's what i do
[00:16] <Waldir> abstrakt: lol
[00:16] <dmsuperman> slimjimflim: Just FYI: You can click System -> Preferences -> Main Menu, find the menu item, and right click it and go to "Properties" to see which command it runs
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, yeah, I have it in MSC mode (it's just seen as an external USB drive)
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, it's seen in mount
[00:16] <abstrakt> i don't bother with script kiddie editors anymore
[00:16] <Waldir> oCean_: how do I set it as default?
[00:16] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, but not in lsusb
[00:17] <Waldir> oCean_: nvm
[00:17] <oCean_> Waldir: it probably is, after setting it for *this* file of type .txt
[00:17] <oCean_> Waldir: at least I guess it works that way
[00:17] <Waldir> oCean_: no, it didnt stick as default :(
[00:18] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: does it not detect it when you plug it in then?
[00:18] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, no, it used to mount automatically and now when it's plugged in I get nothing on the desktop
[00:19] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, and now when I plug it in the device continually turns on/off
[00:19] <oCean_> Waldir: Well, when I set my .pdf files not to be opened by evince, but by acroreader, all pdf's files are opened by acroreader.
[00:19] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, and it has the latest firmware
[00:19] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: that's odd, and i'm afraid i don't have an answer for you as it's not something i've found
[00:19] <Waldir> oCean_: yes, that also happened with pdf files here, but for txt they seem to stick with gedit for some reason... weird
[00:19] <Frijolie> skonofstars11, and it's a Sansa Fuze
[00:20] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: sorry, latest firmware? on the device?
[00:20] <oCean_> Waldir: Ah, sorry.. i don't know then
[00:20] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, yes, firmware on the Fuze
[00:20] <Waldir> oCean_: I'll figure it out sooner or later... it's not even a week since i moved to linux :)
[00:21] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, mount says something about gvfs-fuse-daemon
[00:21] <abstrakt> Waldir, no syntax hilite?
[00:21] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, before it was just /dev/sdb1
[00:21] <abstrakt> bah... guess it's just a notepad clone with better Undo features
[00:21] <oCean_> Waldir: ok! keep up the good work! :)
[00:21] <TheFunkbomb> is anyone familiar with mail notification?  it won't let me open the program again to add more accounts
[00:21] <abstrakt> Waldir, are you a coder?
[00:21] <madhatter1> hey everyone, is there any way to get "xanalogtv" working on gnome-screensaver?
[00:22] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: fuse is a userland file system
[00:22] <gewoon> Voer tekst hier in...tttt
[00:22] <Waldir> abstrakt: wannabe, perhaps xD
[00:22] <abstrakt> ubottu, de
[00:22] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, it was FAT before..i haven't changed it
[00:22] <abstrakt> Waldir, how old are you? (if you don't mind answering or me asking)
[00:22] <Waldir> abstrakt: why would I bother? :) I'm 23, why?
[00:22] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: yeah, i mean on your computer
[00:23] <abstrakt> Waldir, why would you bother what?
[00:23] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, huh? my Hard Drive is formatted as ext3
[00:24] <kara-away> someone just told me to use #rm -rf * to set every file in a directory as executable.
[00:24] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace
[00:24] <abstrakt> kara-away, hahahaha
[00:24] <kara-away> isn't that the delete everything command?
[00:24] <lstarnes> kara-away: yes
[00:24] <skinofstars11> Frijolie: this probably won't help solve your problem, but it should give you a better understanding of what gvs-fuse does
[00:24] <Waldir> abstrakt: bother about telling you my age :)
[00:25] <kara-away> thanks for confirming.  and thanks to the ubuntu forums for telling me to NEVER EVER DO THAT, or I might have listened.
[00:25] <abstrakt> Waldir, well if it's a bother, then don't... but i figured maybe you would bother to tell me your age because I asked... and so I asked, and so you told me
[00:25] <Waldir> lool
[00:26] <Waldir> but I'm curious about the reason why you asked :)
[00:26] <MenZa> Guys, the whole age-discussion thingo isn't exactly fit for #ubuntu - could you continue in a /query, or alternatively, #ubuntu-offtopic? This channel is only for support. :)
[00:26] <Frijolie> skinofstars11, any idea as to why it would have been mounted differently? /dev/sdb1 > gvs-fuse?
[00:26] <kara-away> can you please tell me how to do what I was originally trying to do, which is to give read/execute permission to every file in a directory?
[00:27] <lstarnes> kara-away: chmod +rx *
[00:27] <abstrakt> Waldir, communication enhancement. if i know your age i can better decide what to say to you and how to say it to you. if you're 12 i'm gonna say things differently than if you're 65 than if you're 23
[00:27] <kara-away> thank you, lstarnes
[00:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, of course i realize you could be lying to me about your age... but given that you would only be degrading the quality of possible future communication and help you might recieve... it doesn't bother me
[00:28] <kara-away> this guy doesn't even think he's a jerk for that.  he thinks he's funny.  :(
[00:28] <Waldir> abstrakt: lol, ok :) I tend to decide on the basis of the conversations I have with people
[00:28] <aspoor> lol
[00:28] <abstrakt> Waldir, ultimately that's the only thing that matters
[00:29] <abstrakt> Waldir, but extra information about a person can aide communication
[00:29] <oCean_> kara-away: not in this channel, I hope?
[00:29] <aspoor> 99 cent cheeseburger?
[00:29] <Waldir> abstrakt: instead of asking... since many times the real age and the mental age mismatch
[00:29] <Waldir> abstrakt: sure
[00:29] <kara-away> oh, gosh, no.  I mostly hang out in #math and #not-math, and I'm trying to get ocaml going so I can install HOL Light...
[00:29] <Waldir> plus it can assure you that your judgement was correct (in case it was, lol)
[00:29] <kara-away> I know the basics of using ubuntu, but I don't have a lot of the commands down.  Fortunately, I do know that one.
[00:29] <Waldir> well, guys, I'll be back but for today I gotta go
[00:30] <Waldir> it's past midnight here
[00:30] <abstrakt> Waldir, UK?
[00:30] <Waldir> abstrakt: portugal :)
[00:30] <abstrakt> ah, euro
[00:30] <abstrakt> figured
[00:31] <oCean_> kara-away: Just starting ubuntu ej? Download your free copy of the pocketguide here: http://ubuntupocketguide.com/download3.html
[00:31] <zhurai> normally, how long does it take for wubi to install?
[00:31] <kara-away> thanks, oCean_ :)
[00:32] <zhurai> cause I have someone that is taking 2-3 hours, and still on 15%
[00:32] <abstrakt> zhurai, on a slow computer i'd give it all day
[00:32] <mafsi> oCean_: running weechat now :)
[00:32] <zhurai> :|
[00:32] <zhurai> that might be why
[00:32] <oCean_> mafsi: ok!
[00:32] <Waldir> oCean_, abstrakt, thanks for the help. see you later!
[00:32] <kara-away> looks like I have ocaml going.  thanks for the help.
[00:32] <UKGent> zhurai   depends a bit on your connection speed but that seems very long - in my case on ADSL it took about 45 mins
[00:33] <zhurai> hmm
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> still 15% there
[00:33] <zhurai> <zhurai> huh, how long have you been at it O_o
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> 2-3 hours o_O
[00:33] <zhurai> <Akatsuki> it says scanning files
[00:33] <FloodBot2> zhurai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <UKGent> and that included getting the updates after install really
[00:33] <zhurai> oh
[00:33] <GentooJohnny> I started gnome and all of the menus and such are gone. how do I get them back
 it's done the downloading part quick
 just the scanning of the files
 or it just froze
[00:34] <zhurai> o_O
[00:34] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, ? the menus are "gone" ?
[00:34] <aspoor> Anyone hear that stuff about google phone service?
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> the bars top and bottom
[00:34] <zhurai> you mean you lost your panels?
[00:34] <zhurai> ...did you delete them maybe by accident?
[00:34] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, yeah the taskbars... dunno, sounds like you messed something up... i'd reboot fully
[00:34] <UKGent> zhurai - I found xubuntu quicker though - which is what I installed - because it does not download Open Office during installation. That is what takes most of the time. He might want to consider xubuntu if connection is slow
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> im sure they are running somewhere. what are they called
[00:34] <zhurai> he says it already dled
[00:34] <GentooJohnny> gnome-panel?
[00:35] <zhurai> it's "scanning"
[00:35] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, px ax | grep gnome
[00:35] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, ps ax | grep panel
[00:35] <ugliefrog> amyone know if there is a ee pc irc channel
[00:35] <spaceBARbarian> i am using jaunty on my laptop and for some reason ubuntu doesnt remember my volume settings after a reboot
[00:35] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know why ?
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I killed it and it restarted
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> but still doesn't show
[00:36] <zhurai> UKGent: it's already dled he said, and it says it's scanning, for 2~3 hrs ish
[00:36] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, as i said... i would do a full reboot
[00:36] <vox> GentooJohnny: reboot
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I just did one.
[00:36] <GentooJohnny> Ill do another
[00:36] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, and if you've done that, then i'd go muck around with GDM and try to get my old configuration back
[00:36] <ugliefrog> amyone know if there is a ee pc irc channel
[00:37] <abstrakt> ugliefrog, heard you the first time... wtf is ee pc ?
[00:37] <aiarakoa> like a mini cooper, laptop version :)
[00:37] <aiarakoa> tiny, tiny
[00:37] <ugliefrog> its my daughters net top
[00:38] <oCean_> ugliefrog: yes, there is #ubuntu-eeepc, but I'm not sure if there is any activity
[00:38] <ugliefrog> k thank you ill give it a try
[00:39] <abstrakt> is that one of those tiny $300 acer's from Wal-mart?
[00:39] <abstrakt> ugliefrog, ^
[00:39] <HacUrMac> New 2 Ubuntu...having problems with sites not finding java...Pogo.com keeps saying"Somewhere along the way to your destination, the address (location) you were trying to get to was garbled."
[00:40] <zeta> LOL, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
[00:40] <spaceBARbarian> i am using jaunty on my laptop and for some reason ubuntu doesnt remember my volume settings after a reboot, anyone know how to fix this ?
[00:41] <oCean_> abstrakt: no, it's the 7, 9 or 10 inch mini laptops from asus
[00:41] <GentooJohnny> alright. a full reboot did not fix gnome-panel
[00:41] <Flannel> zeta: What?
[00:41] <Flannel> spaceBARbarian: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.
[00:41] <abstrakt> oCean_, mmm... i think we're talking about the same thing
[00:41] <abstrakt> asus, acer, whatever
[00:41] <abstrakt> one of those A words
[00:42] <GentooJohnny> eeepc is by asus
[00:42] <Chowder> spaceBARbarian, sudo alsactl store
[00:42] <abstrakt> i saw that they come with Ubuntu, which intrigued me
[00:42] <phaer> how can i start gdm on :1 ?
[00:42] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, i would create a new GDM session thinger
[00:42] <fbc-mx> Why does kde 4.2 get spring loaded folders and we don't. I'd like to see spring loaded folders in Nautilus, too
[00:42] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, i don't really know how to explain what i would do... but i know what i would do... and it has to do with GDM
[00:42] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: I was hoping I wouldn't have to
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, so add them
[00:43] <Doonz> Hey Guys what would be the cause for my network being totally hosed (extremely slow) when i copy a file from a usb ntfs drive?
[00:43] <fbc-mx> abstrakt, how?
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, um... same way you would add any feature to Nautilus
[00:43] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, it *is* open source
[00:44] <phaer> Doonz: is the cpu busy? is all memory in use?
[00:44] <nubuntu> how do i get wireshark to load?
[00:44] <nubuntu> where is it located on the disk?
[00:45] <Doonz> its dual core xeons with only one core running at less the 20% ram is only 500mg outta 8gb
[00:45] <phaer> Doonz: i did not use ntfs for 1 or 2 years, but i can remember that one ntfs driver ate all my power
[00:45] <phaer> Doonz: than i cant help you ;)
[00:45] <Chowder> nubuntu, "whereis wireshark"
[00:45] <Chowder> or use the search tool to find it
[00:45] <Doonz> phaer:  ok np. /me goes on grumbling about stupid work drived
[00:46] <Frijolie> anyone help to get a portable media player to mount?
[00:46] <brizuela> l
[00:46] <fbc-mx> abstrakt, yeah, but that assumes that I know how to program in something other than php.
[00:46] <GentooJohnny> abstrakt: gdm doesn't give a choice of seting up a new login. just create a new user?
[00:46] <phaer> !ask
[00:48] <abstrakt> fbc-mx, not really. it assumes that you're smart enough to program. programming is really 90% about reading the manual. and any new open source project you work on you'll have to learn the system and how it's coded.
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, yeah i would create a new user and see if you can get that to work
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, and or delete the old user too and re-create it
[00:48] <abstrakt> GentooJohnny, which should, in effect, create a completely brand new session
[00:49] <Frijolie> guess I stumped everyone
[00:50] <abstrakt> Frijolie, no you just have been to unobservant to notice that someone told you something already
[00:50] <abstrakt> s/to/too/
[00:51] <Frijolie> abstrakt, then I must be blind..i don't see anything
[00:51] <TimReichhart> I am needing some help on setting up my vpn server I am using smoothwall and that got my vpn server.
[00:52] <Doonz> hey guys
[00:53] <Doonz> say im doing a cp command is there a way to see how fast its copying and how much time is left?
[00:53] <abstrakt> apparently my dedi-server has two IP addresses
[00:53] <abstrakt> one on eth0 and one on eth1
[00:53] <abstrakt> the one on eth0 is the ip address that was sent to me in my welcome email
[00:53] <illovae> Doonz: you have to patch coreutils for that with the gentoo patch, or use a tool and pipe you cp command
[00:53] <illovae> s/you/your
[00:53] <infomomo> abstrakt: that's normal
[00:54] <abstrakt> seems like i should be able to just go to http://my.ip.add.ress/
[00:54] <abstrakt> and that apache should report "it works"
[00:54] <Doonz> illovae: thanx
[00:54] <abstrakt> because i did nothing more than the default install of apache
[00:54] <infomomo> abstrakt: right
[00:54] <abstrakt> aptitude install apache2
[00:54] <abstrakt> infomomo, however i get a Firefox error... i can paste exactly which one if you want
[00:54] <abstrakt> infomomo, i'm kinda stumped as to why i can't even get to the default site when i just go straight to the IP
[00:54] <infomomo> abstrakt: i am no pro, but go ahead
[00:55] <infomomo> paste the ip
[00:55] <Roasted> Is there network cloning software for Ubuntu? Like with Ghost/Windows, but with Ubuntu with the same capabilities that Ghost has?
[00:55] <spaceBARbarian> how do i add a command line launcher to a panel ?
[00:55] <abstrakt> infomomo, i'd prefer to /msg you the ip if that's ok
[00:55] <Huufarted> Roasted, G4L.  Ghost4Linux
[00:55] <infomomo> Roasted: clonezilla
[00:55] <abstrakt> just don't want my private server ip in a public chan
[00:55] <Frijolie> it's seen by Mount as a gvs-fuse and lsusb doesn't see it at all
[00:55] <abstrakt> infomomo, ok to /msg you?
[00:55] <infomomo> abstrakt: right
[00:55] <Frijolie> er gvfs-fuse-daemon
[00:56] <Roasted> infomomo - I spent 4 months trying to get clonezilla right. That product doesnt do the job like I thought it would.
[00:56] <abstrakt> infomomo, right now the NameVirtualHost directive just says NameVirtualHost *
[00:56] <abstrakt> which afaik should be fine... and the listen directive is just Listen 80
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, Ghost4Linux.
[00:56] <datruth> how can i disable the touchpad mouse on mylaptop and only use my usb?
[00:56] <abstrakt> so that should bind apache to any and all ip's available right?
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, just google 'g4l' and you'll find it
[00:56] <Roasted> huufarted - all right, I'll try that. Is that an open so urce product that has a decent userbase? like with a forum and all?
[00:56] <Huufarted> yes, Roasted.
[00:56] <Roasted> huufarted - have you used it?
[00:56] <Huufarted> Not much to talk about, though.  It does its work well
[00:56] <Huufarted> Roasted, yes.
[00:57] <Roasted> huufarted - have you used clonezilla server?
[00:57] <Huufarted> Roasted, took a 160 GB Laptop HDD dual boot with Windows, moved it to a 500 GB drive, removed the NTFS, moved the Ext3, moved the SWAP part, extended my /home part and it worked PERFECTLY.
[00:57] <infomomo> abstrakt: pm me
[00:57] <Roasted> huufarted - with G4L or CZ Server?
[00:57] <Huufarted> Roasted, G4L
[00:58] <Roasted> huufarted - good stuff. Does G4L support windows at all, or is it linux only?
[00:58] <Huufarted> Roasted, it uses 'dd' so it works on ANY partition.  It moves byte-for-byte.  Doesn't care what partition.
[00:58] <Roasted> huufarted - good stuff. Have you used FOG?
[00:58] <Huufarted> Roasted, sorry.  never heard of it.
[00:58] <TheFunkbomb> Can anyone tell me how to add Mail Notifications to my Sessions start up?
[00:59] <Roasted> huufarted - check it out. Open source, free, runs on top of Ubuntu... I have been using ita t work and it works so great, I'm so thankful that I found it. It's primarily gauged towards educational and government purposes, which is up my alley since Im a tech @ a school district. Only thing is, it's geared more for Windows workstations, even though it's linux based. But I got to thinking, if FOG works great with Ubuntu (as the server)
[00:59] <Roasted>  and Windows (as the clients), what would happen if I had 1800 Ubuntu machines instead of 1800 XP machines? Hence my question...
[01:00] <Frijolie> i must have stumped everybody
[01:00] <margaret> why are all the repos for ubuntu neutred now? I need a nes emulator that will work with kde 4.2? cause GFCE doesn't
[01:00] <Huufarted> Roasted.  You haven't said what it does.
[01:00] <Roasted> huufarted - just like Ghost, man.
[01:00] <Huufarted> Roasted, gotcha.
[01:00] <lo0lol0ol> can anyone here help me with Flex/Lex?
[01:01] <shadowblade1> hello - im running ubuntu server 8.04 right now and i was wondering if theres a way to make output scrollable like man
[01:01] <Roasted> huufarted - It's a great tool. If you're in the neighborhood of cloning machines, I suggest you try it. But like I said, I wasn't suer what I'd have to do if I ran all Ubuntu stations instead of XP, but G4L is good to remember that it'll also do the job.
[01:01] <Flannel> shadowblade1: Which sort of output?
[01:01] <Huufarted> shadowblade1: use | more
[01:01] <Roasted> huufarted - thanks for the input, though!
[01:01] <abstrakt> infomomo, i know it should say "it works"
[01:01] <abstrakt> i checked the default /var/www/index.html and i've seen it before
[01:01] <shadowblade1> Huufarted: thanks
[01:01] <Huufarted> shadowblade1: like this  ls -l | more
[01:01] <Flannel> shadowblade1: | less is likely better than | more
[01:01] <abstrakt> infomomo, it's a dedicated server from slicehost
[01:01] <_Brun0_> What's the ~/Examples dir/link? Can I delete it?
[01:02] <Huufarted> Flannel: that works too
[01:02] <Huufarted> _Brun0_: yes.  They are examples of OOo documents.
[01:02] <infomomo> abstrakt: dedicated :S damn ! good stuff
[01:02] <abstrakt> yeh
[01:02] <Tokenekie> Hi, how can I check how much memory is available on my live USB if I am running ubuntu from the live USB drive?
[01:02] <_Brun0_> Huufarted, thanks! If I delete that link will I have any weird app behaviour?
[01:02] <abstrakt> :)
[01:02] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: You mean how much drive space?
[01:03] <abstrakt> it's really bothering me that it doesn't freakin work after a default install of apache
[01:03] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: How much "free" drive space
[01:03] <abstrakt> it doesn't even say "it works"
[01:03] <Huufarted> _Brun0_: no.  The original directory still exists, you're only deleting the link.
[01:03] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: df -h
[01:03] <margaret> join #nes
[01:03] <_Brun0_> Huufarted, thanks alot!
[01:03] <abstrakt> it should "just work" after i installed apache... i've restarted apache a bunch
[01:03] <infomomo> abstrakt: The Best Ways   	The best way: send us email.   	We also have an online chat (http://chat.slicehost.com/) room and you are invited to join us there.   	Call us: 888-82SLICE
[01:03] <infomomo> abstrakt: FTW ???
[01:04] <abstrakt> infomomo, yeah i guess i can call them... was hoping to not
[01:04] <infomomo> abstrakt: go straight to the chat room !!!!
[01:04] <oCean_> abstrakt: after apache's install, when no ServerName is set, it starts on 127.0.0.1
[01:04] <Flannel> abstrakt: make sure it's readable by www-data.
[01:04] <oCean_> abstrakt: q.e.d. in /var/log/apache2/error_log
[01:05] <abstrakt> oCean_, uhh, i don't think so... i was getting that error message before... "could not determine server's fully qualified blah blah blah using 127..."
[01:05] <abstrakt> oCean_, but lately on reload that isn't happening
[01:05] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: If I created the live USB while allocating the rest of the entire memory to store system settings, would "df -h" say that my drive is full? I used the System->Administration->create a USB startup disk application to make my life USB
[01:06] <Flannel> abstrakt: That's just a warning, and you can fix that here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting Apache
[01:06] <abstrakt> so i assume it's bound to the right ip
[01:06] <abstrakt> but i could be batty
[01:06] <Huufarted> tokenekie, df -h shows ALL mounted drives, total space, free space, used space.  That's all it does.
[01:06] <abstrakt> aight, gtg, thx for the suggestions all
[01:06] <abstrakt> ttyl
[01:06] <macd> abstrakt, yeah not a big deal at all, just means your web doesnt map to a FQDN
[01:06] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: just type it and see, you'll understand.
[01:07] <Tokenekie> Yeah, but it says my 1.9g live USB drive is completely full, which I dont believe
[01:07] <Tokenekie> Unless it actually is full
[01:07] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: things like Live CDs it will display as 100% full.  But it if says 100% full, then I'd believe it.
[01:07] <eqisow> Does anybody know if you can setup LVM encryption on a volume that already has data on it? Or do you need to do it when you intially configure it?
[01:08] <macd> eqisow, not exactly possible
[01:09] <macd> eqisow, but a side question, is the volume already LVM?
[01:09] <almark1> Hello I get this error everytime I use my Hardy disto, where can I get this file, I can't find it on the disk, but I installed this disto with It only, Can't open file /usr/share/gdm/themes/64studio/64studio.xml
[01:09] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: The "df -h" says my live USB is mounted on /cdrom. I just created it so that has to mean that although it says its full, there is actually space to write files to right?
[01:09] <macd> almark1, are you using the ubuntu-studio disc?
[01:10] <Huufarted> Tokenekie: all CDs display as 100% full.
[01:10] <He-man> Good morning/evening, depending on what part of the world you are in.
[01:10] <macd> almark1, additionally #ubuntustudio would be the proper place to ask.
[01:10] <clayton> hello! I need help about glassfishv2 on ubuntu server. anyone?
[01:10] <Tokenekie> Huufarted: So in other words, there is no way to tell how much actual space I have left on my live USB.
[01:11] <He-man> Can somebody please help me set up my printer/scanner, if possible?
[01:11] <infomomo> He-man: sure
[01:11] <Huufarted> tokenekie, look at the total space and subtract it from 700 or whatever the max capacity of your CDs are.
[01:12] <natsukashi_> Which command is user to give root permissions in the Debian terminal?
[01:12] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: please rephrease that?  Not sure what you're asking
[01:12] <He-man> infomomo:  Thanks info.  I have a Lexmark X2630, and obviously, it won't recognise any drivers from windows.  I dont know how to install it.  I have WINE, and I cant find drivers with that either for it.
[01:12] <natsukashi_> Huufarted: "sudo" = ? in debian
[01:12] <Tokenekie> Okay, but there is no way to check how much space is left after I have added data to the usb drive later on unless I manually keep track of ever bit of data I put into it?
[01:12] <m0se5> natsukashi_: sudo <command>
[01:12] <eqisow> macd: yes, it's a raid1 running in LVM
[01:12] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: it's still sudo
[01:13] <natsukashi_> Ah, okay. Thanks. :)
[01:13] <Huufarted> natsukashi_: if you want to actually operate with full root permissions, you can type this:  sudo su -
[01:13] <m0se5> natsukashi_: su && apt-get install sudo
[01:13] <Flannel> natsukashi_: This is #ubuntu.  You should try #debian instead.  They'll be able to better suit your needs.
[01:14] <m0se5> natsukashi_: exactly what Flannel said.. jion #Debian
[01:14] <almark1> macd: well its not ubuntustudio, its 64studio. Would ubuntustudio help?
[01:15] <almark1> macd: Its Hardy
[01:15] <Flannel> almark1: What is 64studio?
[01:16] <almark1> Flannel: its a profession DAW with all the goodies like Ubuntu but on a pro level its Ubuntu or Debian
[01:16] <almark1> Flannel: 64studio.org or com
[01:17] <Flannel> almark1: Youre best bet is to get support from the 64studio people.  Obviously they'll know whats going wrong with the 64studio stuff.
[01:17] <almark1> Flannel: 64studio is a 64bit version of Linux for Multimedia purposes, they have 32bit and 64bit versions
[01:17] <offipso> I'm having difficulty getting GRUB to get past stage 1.5 while using a PCI SATA card
[01:17] <offipso> Can anyone help?
[01:18] <offipso> And by difficulty I mean it hangs at "loading stage 1.5" and I dont't even get a gru>
[01:18] <almark1> Flannel: thats my problem they are hardly in IRC, its a very modest disto. I'll just have to use the forum then.
[01:18] <macd> almark1, probably your best bet, searching the install disc doesnt yield that file ?
[01:19] <almark1> macd: no, I haven't a clue where it is in pool main
[01:19] <almark1> macd: I am using ubuntu so to speak its hardy
[01:19] <macd> almark1, are you familiar with the find utility?
[01:19] <almark1> macd: you mean find /yadayada | grep -i something?
[01:20] <macd> almark1, yes, does that yield results as to the files location on the disc?
[01:20] <jmacfuzzy> does anyone know of any ways to speed up NTFS-3G read speed, or at least troubleshoot the cause of extremely low read speeds? (under 100KB/sec)
[01:20] <almark1> macd: all that it gives me is ubuntu-gdm themes and gnome-themes I did a dpkg -i those files and it didn't fix this
[01:21] <m0se5> offipso: try asking in #linux as well. Best I can say is you need to load the module before grub as see your mbr... you may need to boot from a separate disk first. I'm not sure.
[01:21] <macd> almark1, sounds as if their theme is missing the file then, if its not present on the install disc packages, you might want to try a new theme, or those forums.
[01:21] <almark1> macd: My problem is I don't know what an update of my system uninstalled, I did a full update about 2 days, ago, all was fine until ..
[01:22] <macd> almark1, chances are you are not the only one experiencing that issue then
[01:22] <almark1> macd: Yes, it looks like i'm off to the forums
[01:22] <m0se5> jmacfuzzy: try hdparm
[01:22] <GuyFromHell> So i'm on jaunty but i had the same behavior on intepid: for some reason my computer randomly wakes u whenever it feels like it. relevant syslog: http://rafb.net/p/kbK97d66.html
[01:22] <almark1> macd: Its very annoying very...
[01:22] <macd> the problem with distros with small adoption rates or maintainers not always available
[01:23] <He-man> infomomo:  Sorry mate.  Same dramas.
[01:23] <almark1> macd: Yeah, this 64studio BETA! 3.0 so they said there might be some bugs but very stable
[01:23] <macd> either way, thats a very "noobish" packaging mistake
[01:23] <almark1> macd: what on my part?
[01:23] <macd> almark1, do your updates come from ubuntu maintained repositories, or 64studio repositories
[01:24] <offipso> m0se5: Thanks, I'll ask there
[01:24] <almark1> macd: Things are messed up, my Gnome themes where deleted and my Gdm 64studio is toast, and I can't find the answers on the disk weird huh
[01:24] <jmacfuzzy> m0se5: isn't that for IDE? this is for a sata raid array with a controller card -- it's visible and mounted, just reading ungodly slow and i need to copy about 580GB off of it
[01:24] <almark1> macd: Both
[01:24] <almark1> macd: For hardy
[01:24] <macd> almark1, interesting, mixxing repositories, what  great idea </sarcasm>
[01:25] <almark1> macd: Ok ok :P
[01:25] <macd> almark1, But yeah I think you hit the mark with BETA, buggy ;)
[01:25] <indro_> hi all
[01:25] <indro_> anyone has access to a shell that support sockets?
[01:25] <almark1> macd: beta but good, and so to be stable I imagine with a very other updates it should be good.
[01:25] <macd> indro_, not really the place to ask.
[01:26] <almark1> macd: I just love those days when you spend 8 plus hours trying to fix linux lol
[01:26] <macd> almark1, mmmhmmm
[01:27] <almark1> macd: Sometimes I think im dumb. But maybe I'm just happy lol
[01:27] <bob__> does anyone have an easy solution for remote desktop from windows to linux?
[01:27] <shathan> ssh?
[01:27] <m0se5> jmacfuzzy: I'm not sure. I just threw it out there. It sound's interesting though. I'd love to be the one (you) to figure it out.
[01:28] <Matson> I'm getting the big RSOD on install - at the step of "select and install software"  (Red screen of death)
[01:28] <almark1> macd: Thanks for your advice but its time I make some music c-ya :)
[01:28] <Matson> how do I peel back and see what the error is?
[01:28] <jmacfuzzy> m0se5: if i'm stating it, that'd likely be the case
[01:28] <bob__> matson, is that a server install?
[01:28] <m0se5> bob__: vnc?
[01:29] <natsukashi_> okay, I just used the "su -" command to gain root permission. How do I revert it? :)
[01:29] <macd> bob__, vnc, freenx, both offer windows clients and linux servers.
[01:29] <lstarnes> natsukashi_: exit
[01:29] <macd> natsukashi_, exit
[01:29] <Matson> bob__: yes
[01:29] <natsukashi_> :o
[01:29] <Matson> I'm going with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.2/ubuntu-8.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[01:29] <raven1> im bak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <raven1> vince here
[01:29] <bob__> m0RrE, ive been looking through some like openvnc but i cant seem to make heads or tails of it
[01:29] <raven1> peterpan
[01:30] <natsukashi_> wow, it really was that simple. Thanks. :D
[01:30] <bob__> Matson, just start over, i had that happen a few times on my server install
[01:30] <macd> bob__, you need the windows client. installing the server side on the linux box may also require some configuration.
[01:30] <Matson> ok, I'll try that
[01:30] <Matson> bob__: were things stable with a successful install after that?
[01:30] <Crazy_Spai> Was up.
[01:31] <bob__> Matson, i have my server running 24/7
[01:31] <bob__> uptime is like 5 months now
[01:31] <m0se5> natsukashi_: exit
[01:31] <Matson> any ideas on how to see what the error is ?
[01:31] <Matson> all I get is a red screen - and prompts to go back and try again
[01:32] <bob__> Matson, im not sure how to see the error but that is the same spot i had issues with
[01:32] <Matson> k
[01:32] <Matson> restarting now - checking CD for errors first
[01:33] <m0se5> bob__: a vnc server is built into KDE... K menu > system settings > Sharing
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> anyone else having issues with ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's?
[01:33] <bob__> m0RrE, im gnome
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> (first of all, to clarify, i'm pretty much linux retarded)
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> but 8.10 played my mp3 files, 9.04 gives me shit about a missing codec
[01:33] <macd> Tommy_Bres, join #ubuntu+1 please.
[01:33] <Matson> Tommy_Bres: I was told discussion for 9.04 is in Ubuntu+1
[01:33] <Crazy_Spai> Tommy_Bres, as am I. Have you tried Amarok?
[01:33] <Tommy_Bres> lol alright macd
[01:34] <bob__> Matson, did you check your md5 sums on the download?
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> crazy_spai, i haven't, did that work for you?
[01:34] <m0se5> Tommy_Bres: take a look at http://www.medibuntu.org/
[01:34] <Matson> bob__: did not, using the integrated cd check now
[01:34] <Matson> bittorrent uses lots of sha1 hashes
[01:34] <Crazy_Spai> Tommy_Bres: Yes, I use it all the time. I have them playing off a windows server.
[01:34] <Matson> so expect that it is correct
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> oooh ok
[01:34] <Tommy_Bres> well maybe i'll give that a look
[01:34] <thiebaude> Tommy_Bres: did you download all your codecs?
[01:34] <bob__> Matson, ah i never used bit torrent
[01:35] <Tommy_Bres> thiebaude it said codecs could not be found with the auto search
[01:35] <macd> Matson, I've had that before as well on server hardware with exotic raid cards.  On beige box hardware that problem is usually caused by a bad burn (though the cd may pass the check) burn at the slowest rate you can.
[01:35] <Tommy_Bres> and as previously stated i'm absolutely retarded when it comes to linux, i use ubuntu off of a flash drive occasionally but i'm a windoze user most of the time :X
[01:35] <Matson> macd: ok - I burned at highest rate
[01:35] <Matson> and I'm also using blank DVD stock - did not have a cd-r bank around
[01:36] <Matson> passed the CD-ROM inegrity check
[01:36] <Matson> and I *am* using different hardware - amd64 sun x2200
[01:36] <Matson> but ws says it is supported
[01:38] <macd> Matson, ubuntu doesnt like AMD, j/k
[01:38] <macd> Id try a reburn and see what happends
[01:39] <Excell> AMD+Ubuntu= marriage made in heaven.
[01:39] <shathan> no amd
[01:39] <shathan> amd=bad
[01:39] <Matson> intersting...  this time it is taking a long time to create the ext3 file system
[01:39] <Matson> might have missed that step last time
[01:39] <Matson> shathan: why?
[01:40] <Matson> shathan: is that silly trash talk - or is there a real reason not to use amd?
[01:40] <Excell> Please deposit youe Microsoft products to your nearest green box for disposal and enjoy real computing wilt Ubuntu/Linux.
[01:40] <bob__> i use amd64's and they work just fine
[01:40] <LjL> !offtopic
[01:40] <bob__> lmfao Excell
[01:41] <Matson> base system - reinstalled all ok so far
[01:41] <Matson> kernel 2.6.24-23-server ...
[01:42] <bob__> m0se5, have you set up vnc before? im curious to hear opinions on the easiest one to set up
[01:43] <Matson> bob__: when you got it to work - did you end up installing anything extra on the "*" select list  (LAMP, MAIL, Etc)?
[01:43] <Matson> selecting no extra server install items - this time it worked
[01:44] <Matson> postfix, apache, mysql, ssh - have to do those by hand I guess
[01:45] <m0se5> bob__: I have little use for vnc because I don't use Windows and ssh is fine for me. That said, I've used TightVNC in the past.
[01:45] <Matson> we have bash
[01:45] <Matson> :)
[01:45] <bob__> Matson, i usually do everything by hand
[01:45] <l337ingDisorder> Question: `grep 'aac' /proc/devices` produces an output like "253 aac"... I need to strip out the " aac" so I'm left specifically with the 253. How can I achieve that?
[01:46] <Matson> fwiw - the server install on 8.04 did not work when I selected LAMP, Mail server, and SSH
[01:46] <Matson> when I redid it, selected nothing, it worked
[01:46] <m0se5> l337ingDisorder: ask in #linux or look into awk
[01:46] <bob__> ty btw m0se5
[01:46] <Matson> does "server" install X11 and {KDE/Gnome} ?
[01:47] <thiebaude> !x11
[01:47] <dwidmann> Okay, I have a question. From a default Ubuntu(w/gnome) install, how much does apt-get say it needs to get to install the python-kde4 package (I'm curious)
[01:47] <l337ingDisorder> m0se5: thanks
[01:48] <m0se5> bob__: your welcome... you may find firestarter a nice gui for your linux firewall (IPtables)
[01:48] <m0se5> Matson: no... but afterwards apt-get install ubuntu-desktop willl
[01:49] <Matson> k
[01:49] <dublisk> Hi, I downloaded ubuntu 64 bit version, and it says ubuntu AMD_64, is there not an IA_64 version as well?
[01:49] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[01:49] <bob__> m0RrE, shouldnt he use aptitude vs apt-get?
[01:49] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By Default
[01:50] <m0se5> dublisk: AMD is for x86 processors... I'm not really sure what your asking
[01:50] <Pricey> dublisk: tit is the same
[01:50] <grendal_prime> grrrr...is there a way to search through email subjects in thunderbird?
[01:50] <dublisk> m0se5: IA_64 is intels competing 64 bit archetecture I thought
[01:51] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By DefaultHello, I Have A PArtition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other IS There A Way I CAn Set Ubuntu To Bood By Default
[01:51] <Pupuser402-1> !repeat | jamieleshaw
[01:51] <Pricey> dublisk: "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead."
[01:51] <Pricey> dublisk: from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[01:51] <m0se5> dublisk: oh.. ok, they arcitector types used for the linux kernel isn't exact to the brand, just the type.. AMD and Intel make x86... short answer.. you have the right one.
[01:52] <dublisk> ok
[01:52] <Matson> is there a post-install set of things I should look at once I do the "server" 8.04 install?
[01:52] <HacUrMac> I am having an issue with sites (including Sun) not detecting java and giving me this error : "Somewhere along the way to your destination, the address (location) you were trying to get to was garbled."
[01:52] <bob__> l337ingDisorder, try using a pipe from grep to awk maybe?
[01:53] <dfcnvt>  apt-cache show python-kde4
[01:53] <dfcnvt> look up for size
[01:53] <dfcnvt>  apt-cache show python-kde4 | grep Size
[01:54] <Pupuser402-1> !pm | jamieleshaw
[01:54] <m0se5> Matson: I'm not sure what you mean... what's the "server" going to do?
[01:54] <milkncat> good evening all
[01:54] <HacUrMac> hello
[01:54] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I Have A Partition And With Windows Vista On One And Ubuntu On The Other Is There A Way I Can Set Ubuntu To Boot By Default?
[01:56] <nado> jamieleshaw, are you using grub ?
[01:56] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[01:56] <jamieleshaw> To Boot Ubuntu I HAve To Put Ubuntu CD In And Select Boot From First Hardisk.
[01:56] <jamieleshaw> Yes.
[01:56] <Matson> m0se5: I was referring more to security / sources / etc
[01:56] <Drew_CPHQ> Hey guys. So I just installed pure-ftpd, how come when I try logging on in my ftp client I get authentication failed?
[01:57] <l337ingDisorder> bob__: actually I just found a nice solution that bypasses grep altogether. awk '/aac/ {print $1}'
[01:57] <Matson> get the lastest security updates for installed packages, for example
[01:58] <nado> jamieleshaw, if you have to put in the CD chances are grub is not installed
[01:58] <bob__> l337ingDisorder, awesome, glad you got it resolved, i didnt mess with awk to much, but i remember it from a backflip i was doing with my log files
[01:58] <Matson> intersting - 12 packages needed upgrading
[01:58] <jamieleshaw> But GRUB IS On The CD.
[01:58] <Matson> including the kernel
[01:58] <jamieleshaw> So How DO I Put GRUB AS MAin Boot System?
[01:59] <dfcnvt> apt-get install grub
[01:59] <dfcnvt> then follow as setup
[01:59] <dfcnvt> from on your ubuntu system.. You should be able to set the boot as your preferred default with no problem..
[02:00] <Matson> is there an easy way to load test a new machine and get performace specs?
[02:00] <bob__> grub should be installed by default though
[02:00] <nado> jamieleshaw, check grub-install
[02:01] <slerder> hey guys should i be able to boot from a usb device connected to a PCI usb card on my gigabyte ep45-ud3r motherboard?
[02:01] <jamieleshaw> nado: the terminal says command not found.
[02:01] <andresmh> Is there a way to tell USB Statup Disk Creator to complete delete everything inside the thumbdrive and then copy the ISO file into it?
[02:01] <nado> jamieleshaw, then do : sudo apt-get install grub
[02:01] <josh-l> hi, is there anything bad about setting up/ using prelink?
[02:02] <jamieleshaw> nado: In progress.
[02:03] <jamieleshaw> nado: It says grub is already the newest.
[02:03] <m0se5> Matson: apt keeps your system up to date... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:03] <slerder> hey guys should i be able to boot from a usb device connected to a PCI usb card on my gigabyte ep45-ud3r motherboard?
[02:03] <chronic1> Is there a specific channel for questions about the beta?
[02:03] <vader> Anybody know a program (preferably console based) that will track cumulative bandwidth stats? I want to track Gb in and out over week/month/year.
[02:03] <nado> chronic1, #ubuntu+1 i believe
[02:03] <bob__> alrighty everyone, im out
[02:03] <bob__> thanks for the info
[02:04] <Matson> m0se5: thanks
[02:04] <kitchenrange> is there any way i can change my default torrent application on the newest ubuntu
[02:04] <nado> kitchenrange, do you have an application in mind ?
[02:05] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, right click on a torrent file and choose properties then go to the "open with" tab
[02:05] <andresmh> once I have Ubuntu running on a USB thumbdrive with persistency. If I double click on the "Install" icon on the desktop. Will it install Ubuntu with all the apps that are in the USB version or will it install the default one?
[02:05] <m0se5> slerder: depends how the boot order is set in the system bios
[02:05] <nado> jamieleshaw, can you try : sudo grub-install
[02:06] <Guest57861> andresmh - it install just like the Live CD version
[02:06] <yurledi> ola
[02:06] <Lego_Dan> Um how do i get back to my BSD install cuz this ain't working for me
[02:06] <newuser> ﻿hi, when a phone call comes in the internet disconnects.  Wired connections restore in a few seconds but wireless requires a reset of wireless router...is this an isp issue or something wrong with my router??
[02:07] <kitchenrange> hey Hammerjak ive done that, but for some reason, when i open the torrents with any other client, they will not download
[02:07] <Lego_Dan> i don't see any options for my second partition
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> nado: it says as follows: Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device Install GRUB on your drive.    -h, --help              print this message and exit   -v, --version           print the version information and exit   --root-directory=DIR    install GRUB images under the directory DIR                           instead of the root directory   --grub-shell=FILE       use FILE as the grub...
[02:07] <slerder> m0se5, im setting it to boot from usb-cdrom, i have an lg usb dvd drive and it simply will not boot from it, it just boots from an hdd even though i disabled booting from hdds..
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> ...shell   --no-floppy             do not probe any floppy drive   --force-lba             force GRUB to use LBA mode even for a buggy                           BIOS   --recheck               probe a device map even if it already exists  INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.  grub-install copies GRUB images into the DIR/boot directory specfied by --root-directory, a
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> nd uses the grub shell to install grub into the boot sector.  Report bugs to <bug-grub@gnu.org>.Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device Install GRUB on your drive.    -h, --help              print this message and exit   -v, --version           print the version information and exit   --root-directory=DIR    install GRUB images under the directory DIR                           instead of...
[02:07] <jamieleshaw> ...the root directory   --grub-shell=FILE       use FILE as the grub shell   --no-floppy             do not probe any floppy drive   --force-lba             force GRUB to use LBA mode even for a buggy                           BIOS   --recheck               probe a device map even if it already exists  INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.  grub-install copies...
[02:07] <FloodBot2> jamieleshaw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <m0se5> andresmh: the default one I would assume.
[02:07] <Pupuser402-1>  lol
[02:07] <andresmh> m0se5, so all the apps I had installed on the thumbdrive will be "gone"?
[02:08] <kitchenrange>  hey Hammerjak ive done that, but for some reason, when i open the torrents with any other client, they will not download
[02:08] <m0se5> slerder: tap F12 at POST... see if your boot option is there
[02:08] <andresmh> how do you format a USB thumbdrive?
[02:08] <ASrock> I am trying to mount an external hard drive that was not properly ejected from a windows xp computer, what command do i use to mount it?
[02:08] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, so it opens in the correct application but then doesn't download?
[02:08] <kitchenrange> exactly Hammerjak
[02:09] <slerder> m0se5, yeah i tap F12 and select usb-cdrom... i cant see the specific name of it though..
[02:09] <kitchenrange> im not sure if it has anything to do with it being a private torrent site or not
[02:09] <ASrock> andresmh: gparted is a good partitioning tool with a gui
[02:09] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, which application is it not working with?
[02:09] <Lego_Dan> how do i get to a boot menu so i can boot bsd... ubuntu i can't get working
[02:09] <m0se5> andresmh: Are you Installing Ubuntu from a USB drive to the same USB drive?
[02:09] <kitchenrange> ive tried a few...
[02:09] <kitchenrange> ktorrent
[02:09] <kitchenrange> and vuze
[02:09] <matt____> Is there much I can do about this when trying to mount my data ext3 disk? http://pastebin.com/m8ee4510
[02:09] <Hammerjak> are there any applications that work?
[02:09] <kitchenrange> cant find the executable file for bittorrent though
[02:10] <kitchenrange> the files download with the default client.  But the client is listed on the site as one not to use, because it has problems reporting the downloads and uploads
[02:10] <kitchenrange> so i dont get credit for my seeding
[02:10] <Hammerjak> ah
[02:10] <andresmh> m0se5, I installed the ubuntu livecd onto a thumbdrive with persistency. At some point I want to install it on my hard drive and I would like to keep all the apps I have installed.
[02:10] <m0se5> slerder: hmm... Then, I wonder if the cd your using is bootable.
[02:11] <dublisk> how do I add the kernel source for ubuntu
[02:11] <dublisk> I need to compile network drivers
[02:11] <Hammerjak> well, if it works in one application but not another then it must not be configured correctly
[02:11] <Hammerjak> maybe wrong ports
[02:11] <m0se5> dublisk: sudo apt-get linux-source
[02:11] <Lego_Dan> ... is there anyway to fix grub so i can boot bsd again....
[02:11] <m0se5> dublisk: oops... sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:11] <bluenzo> super grub disk worked for me ;x
[02:11] <dublisk> will that get it from the dvd?
[02:12] <slerder> m0se5, yes , it is.. ive tried several bootable cds, super grub disk, ubuntu live cd, windows install cd,.. acronis..etc
[02:12] <dublisk> says couldn't find package linux-source
[02:12] <matt____> Is there much I can do about this when trying to mount my data ext3 disk? http://pastebin.com/m8ee4510
[02:13] <m0se5> andresmh: Sorry about that.. I didn't know what persistency was... it's a live cd creator right? I'd follow that guild
[02:14] <kitchenrange> Hammerjak : ive tried randomizing the ports (a feature of ktorrent) but that didnt help.  Where would i look for the executable file for Bittorrent?
[02:14] <Lego_Dan> someone please.  I still can't get kubuntu to boot and would just like some help getting back to bsd.. i know i installed kubuntu over my xp partition.. so how to i get back to my bsd partition
[02:14] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, 'which bittorrent' ?
[02:14] <He-man> Good day people.  If I have a zip file on my desktop and I want it opened and installed, what commands do I enter into the terminal?  I think I am missing something.  I typed "sudo install bla bla bla"
[02:14] <^paradox^> i need a little help syncing my palm z22 with palm os devices
[02:14] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange, from a terminal
[02:14] <m0se5> slerder: wow... I'm not sure then... ummm bios... usb latency maybe. I'm not sure.
[02:14] <^paradox^> cant get it to find my palm
[02:15] <He-man> Well, actually, I didnt type bla bla bla as such, just the other info.lol
[02:15] <m0se5> He-man: awesome name
[02:15] <kitchenrange> Hammerjak: mind if we talk through private messages?
[02:15] <He-man> m0se5:  Thanks mate.
[02:15] <durt> He-man, you can't find this application in the repos?
[02:15] <Hammerjak> kitchenrange,  sure, but i'm not sure how much i'll be able to help
[02:15] <He-man> durt:  I downloaded it from the Lexmark site, and I have it there, but I dont know where else it would be
[02:16] <dublisk> I dont see kernel source anywhere in the package manager wtf
[02:16] <kitchenrange> oh ok, well thanks for trying...  would all installed program executables be in /usr/bin?
[02:16] <durt> He-man, what is it exactly.
[02:16] <He-man> It is a linux driver, namely "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm.sh.zip"
[02:17] <He-man> durt:  Sorry, that was meant for you mate.
[02:17] <opera> who can test ekiga with me ?
[02:17] <^paradox^> anyone need some help with the palm thing?
[02:17] <m0se5> dublisk: apt-get install linux-source linux-headers  ...second time I said it.
[02:17] <durt> He-man, ubuntu uses .debs not .rpms rpms are for redhat based distros. try and find a .deb version
[02:18] <eolo999> hi i'm trying to compile new 2.6.29 kernel but i cannot find the option to activate my wireless card which is an  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG... if i search for 'iwlwifi' which is the driver i need i find that the option should be in drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi... but i cannot find it!
[02:18] <opera> i come from china, and will test ekiga with someone else
[02:18] <eolo999> where am i wrong
[02:18] <He-man> durt:  Ah, thanks mate.  Yes, they have a deb version.  I'll download that.
[02:19] <durt> He-man, gdebi is the app that manually installs .debs
[02:19] <dublisk> m0se5: couldn't find package linux-source ...second time I said it.
[02:19] <josh-l> can anyone please tell me how to remove prelink, with all its settings?
[02:19] <He-man> durt:  Okay.  Does that mean I open gdebi?  Or do I type that command in the terminal?
[02:20] <m0se5> He-man: you need something like this;  unzip "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm.sh.zip && sudo apt-get install alien && alien lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.rpm && sudo dpkg -i lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb
[02:20] <LakesProse_> I'm not getting this. I can ssh on LAN quite well. Router forwards a set port to ssh server. Yet "Connection timed out ". What is up?!
[02:20] <durt> He-man, I think gdebi has a gui frontend
[02:21] <He-man> m0se5:  What will that allow me to do?  Does it install both?
[02:21] <nado> He-man, if they have a deb version use that
[02:21] <durt> He-man, probably just double click on the .deb and put your password in
[02:21] <m0se5> dublisk: lol Did you do this command? "sudo apt-get install linux-source ...second time I said it."   cause that's funny... Don't execute every command you see... there's a popular one that will render your systen unusable... goes something like this rm -rf /bla
[02:21] <^paradox^> need some help synching my palm z22 can anyone assist?
[02:21] <He-man> durt:  I will, and thanks.
[02:22] <dublisk> m0se5: no, I was making a wise crack
[02:22] <durt> m0se5, he sid there's a .deb available
[02:22] <dublisk> I'm not that supid
[02:22] <dublisk> stupid
[02:22] <durt> said even
[02:22] <jamieleshaw> nado: I'm back.
[02:22] <fin-syn> is here a way to do FDE on 9.04?
[02:22] <nado> jamieleshaw, cool, did it work ?
[02:23] <He-man> nado:  Thanks mate.
[02:23] <durt> fin-syn, FDE?
[02:23] <jamieleshaw> nado: No, just went into windows again.
[02:23] <He-man> I appreciate all of your help ladies and gentlemen.  I will inform you if it is successful.
[02:23] <nado> arf damn windows :)
[02:23] <upgrdman> when i click on a different desktop in the workspace switched applet nothing happens... is this a known issue?
[02:24] <nado> jamieleshaw, let's talk in private see if we can solve your problem
[02:24] <scunizi> upgrdman: if you don't have anything open on the desktop it's hard to tell that anything happened..
[02:24] <raven10> any tried runnung ubuntu in USB with their BIOS doesnt support USB BOOTIng?
[02:24] <upgrdman> in previous installs when i click on an empty desktop it will give me an empty desktop ...
[02:25] <raven10> any tried runnung ubuntu in USB with their BIOS doesnt support USB BOOTing?
[02:25] <upgrdman> and i could drag windows from one desktop to another ... in the applet. but i cant now
[02:25] <shadowblade> hello - I'm trying to set up a router using ubuntu 8.04 server edition and I'm having problems configuring my network cards. At the moment I've got a temporary one working in the machine so I can use apt-get, wget, etc. My two wired cards are realtek 8139C cards. During boot, there's  a message saying the cards are not compatible with the 8139cp driver, and I should try the 8139too drivers. I've tried removing the 8139cp mod
[02:27] <^paradox^> i need some assistance synching my palm z22 never done this
[02:27] <raven10> WHO TRIED USING GPARTED AND DID NOT LOSE ANY FILES OR MESSED UP HIS/HER FILES?;-)
[02:27] <raven10> HEY PARADOX
[02:27] <^paradox^> hi
[02:27] <upgrdman> no caps lock please
[02:27] <durt> !caps | raven10
[02:27] <Pupuser402-1> !caps
[02:27] <raven10> sorry
[02:27] <raven10> did u install the phone tool for your palm
[02:28] <^paradox^> phone tool?
[02:28] <raven10> u said u want to sync your palm right
[02:28] <raven10> get get right thing
[02:28] <raven10> the get right...
[02:28] <^paradox^> was using gmon pilot
[02:28] <^paradox^> gnome pilot
[02:28] <meanburrito920_> does anyone have a suggestion for a good VM to run in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <upgrdman> meanburrito920_: i like vmware
[02:29] <Pupuser402-1> define "good"
[02:29] <meanburrito920_> upgrdman: but isnt vmware $$
[02:29] <raven10> hmm..try plugging the cable to your pc to the phone
[02:29] <upgrdman> and current vmware has directx support
[02:29] <raven10> open hotsync
[02:29] <meanburrito920_> Pupuser402-1:  does it work :)
[02:29] <^paradox^> its not a phone, only a palm
[02:29] <Pupuser402-1> both vmware and virtualbox work in ubuntu meanburrito920_
[02:29] <upgrdman> meanburrito920_: the viewer is free, and if you google around you can make your own VMX/VMDK files ... but yes, workstation is $200
[02:29] <joejc> anyone here use projectm?
[02:29] <raven10> same
[02:29] <^paradox^> palm z22
[02:30] <upgrdman> anyone use the gnome workspace switcher? mine wont switch ;(
[02:30] <^paradox^> its already plugged in
[02:30] <^paradox^> now to get it synched
[02:30] <raven10> then any button on the cable?
[02:31] <^paradox^> no its just a usb cable
[02:31] <shadowblade> anyone?
[02:31] <raven10> coz palm z22 has a button on the cable
[02:31] <raven10> when plugged..open the sync manager then press the button
[02:32] <dublisk> should linux-source show up in the software manager?
[02:32] <m0se5> dublisk: yes. lol and I'm all about the wise cracks... It's kinda nice to be here again. I've been gone a few years now.
[02:33] <raven10> anyone tried booting ubuntu in USB?
[02:33] <dublisk> ok
[02:33] <dublisk> its not friggin there
[02:33] <dublisk> 5 minutes into ubuntu and I'm already concluding it sucks
[02:33] <taz> im wondring how can i can back to normal to 8.10  .. yesteday download 9.04  it alot of bugs.. so how can uninstall with 9.04 ???
[02:33] <raven10> why dublish
[02:33] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: livecd or installed system?
[02:33] <raven10> uhm..installed system
[02:33] <dublisk> I want to install the kernel source, headers etc
[02:33] <Stupendo1ssteve> taz: Reinstall 8.10 ;)
[02:33] <dublisk> nowhere to be found
[02:33] <raven10> livecd to usb
[02:34] <raven10> through create usb startup system
[02:34] <raven10> create usb startup disk
[02:34] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It is possible, but getting the boot loader to always work may be iffy
[02:34] <shadowblade> taz: there isnt an uninstaller for major upgrades, you have to go back to 8.10 by reinstalling it
[02:34] <taz> stupendolssteve:  how ?? it ready termanial
[02:34] <raven10> coz my BIOS doesnt support USB booting
[02:34] <raven10> and i need help
[02:34] <taz> really
[02:35] <m0se5> dublisk: honestly... sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers
[02:35] <bonez46> how can I compare two files.. two .py config file.. side by side? does vim have anything to do that?
[02:35] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You want to install a system onto the usb?
[02:35] <raven10> yeah...Ubuntu 8.10 to USB
[02:35] <dublisk> m0se5: I don't understand whats complicated about what I said
[02:35] <dublisk> It doesn't findit
[02:35] <taz> How ?? sound like formanted ??
[02:35] <nacsot> is anybody running ubuntu on a parallels?
[02:35] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: yeah..Ubuntu 8.10 to USB via live CD
[02:35] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You'll have to install the bootloader to a hard disk, or install it to a floppy
[02:35] <dublisk> "E: Couldn't find package linux-source"
[02:36] <raven10> uhm...where can i get any bootloader?
[02:36] <taz> shadoblade: do formated ?
[02:36] <raven10> stupendo: are u aware that my BIOS doesnt support USB booting?
[02:36] <m0se5> dublisk: me either.. so direct and precisely about one thing too.
[02:36] <Dreamglider> any vbe editor for ubuntu ?
[02:36] <TwoToneSpirit> I have a few security questions about SSH and such.  1) When SSH asks me if I trust the public key, how am I to know whether it is legit?  2) Is logging into my home computer via SSH with my regular account (which uses the root password) a good idea?  3) Are there any major outstanding issues with the default configuration of SSH?
[02:36] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes you said that, which is why you have to install the bootloader to a hard drive or floppy
[02:37] <raven10> or make an ISO image to a CD
[02:37] <shadowblade> anyone have any input?
[02:37] <dublisk> m0se5: Do you think I'm just making it up that that apt-get is not finding linux-sources?
[02:37] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Boot from the livecd, install the system on the usb, there is an option somewhere for Advanced which is where you set up the bootloader path
[02:37] <raven10> run it simulaneously with the USB
[02:37] <m0se5> dublisk: A seemingly stupid question but are you pasting that command into a terminal?
[02:37] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes, or make an iso with the bootloader on it
[02:37] <dublisk> linux-source
[02:37] <dublisk> yes
[02:37] <nacsot> hello
[02:37] <raven10> bootloader path?hmm...where can i exactly locate it
[02:37] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Here's my take on it - others may say otherwise
[02:38] <LakesProse_> if a folder is 777 and inside the folder is a file 700 owned by user1. User2 can't delete the folder because of the remaining file, can he ?
[02:38] <m0se5> dublisk: I'm not thinking anything about it. I just answered a question.
[02:38] <dublisk> "Reading package lists... Done; Building dependency tree ; Reading state information... Done ; E : Couldn't find package linux-source "
[02:38] <m0se5> dublisk: +1 internetz to me
[02:38] <dreamy> where does the tftp client (from the lan card) goes searching for a file ? and what file ?  ( i think this is too a ubuntu question )
[02:38] <raven10> stupendo1ssteve?
[02:38] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 1) Getting that trust message once (per unique PC) is OK, but if get it again later on for a host you've connected to before, that is cause for concern. There is no really good way to verify this key.
[02:38] <nacsot> how does one transfer data from hard drive to a virtual machine when using ubuntu?
[02:38] <taz> anyway i will not reinstall back 8.10  anyway will work on 9.04 anyway
[02:39] <taz> anyone know about 9.10 ?
[02:39] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 2) There is no "root." There are only accounts with root privileges. There is no reason to worry about logging in via SSH with such accounts
[02:39] <taz> opps 9.04
[02:39] <raven10> when a new update comes out..never update to that right away...coz it contains bugs for sure
[02:39] <shadowblade> nascot: are you using vmware?
[02:39] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It is an option in the installer, it says where it plans on installing the bootloader, you will have to point it at something else
[02:39] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Or use something like super grub disk
[02:40] <nacsot> umm im not sure, im on a mac using parallels
[02:40] <raven10> is super grub disk safe?
[02:40] <raven10> will it harm my windows xp?
[02:40] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: 3) No, but by default *anybody* (in the world if on a public IP) can connect to your box via SSH and try to login. Some people want to restrict SSH to only certain IPs/networks
[02:40] <dublisk> k screw this, I'm booting back into suse, ubuntu is shit
[02:40] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Possibly, but it shouldn't if you just choose to boot linux
[02:40] <shadowblade> nascot: you should try a relevant room. this is a support room specific to ubuntu
[02:40] <raven10> hmmm
[02:40] <raven10> have u tried it
[02:41] <nacsot> yeah thats what im using.
[02:41] <shadowblade> nascot: i thought you said you were on a mac
[02:41] <TwoToneSpirit> cpudan80:  OK.  I think I understand.  But, the password that I use to login normally is also the root password, as per the default configuration.  Is this smart?  It seems like I'd be safer using a different one.
[02:41] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: I have used it without an issue, but ymmv
[02:41] <taz> update manger  for your system is up to date...i saw it said brasero ... i cant mark. it bit dark.. seem stick with it
[02:41] <raven10> ymmv?
[02:41] <nacsot> yes i am but the question isnt about the mac its about ubuntu
[02:41] <TwoToneSpirit> cpudan80: Is it better to just copy the key from my desktop and require that key?
[02:41] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: There is no "root" -- there is no root password
[02:42] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Your Mileage May Vary
[02:42] <raven10> so stupendo1ssteve...are u busy..can u help me
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Your regular user account just has permissions do do things as root (ie. sudo ....)
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: Theres no reason to worry about logging in with such accounts
[02:42] <raven10> stupendo1ssteve
[02:42] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: what about this key business ?
[02:42] <raven10> do u have any email?
[02:43] <Stupendo1ssteve> I don't generally share it
[02:43] <raven10> aw
[02:43] <raven10> T_T
[02:43] <raven10> coz i really need help
[02:43] <raven10> so just give me advices
[02:43] <TwoToneSpirit> cpudan80:  Well, instead of trusting the public key, can't I just copy it from home and then only allow connections with that key?  I really don't fully grasp the public key concept.  I've read about it, but I don't really understand what I'm being asked when I connect.
[02:43] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you install Ubuntu the normal way on the usb disk, you can use super grub disk to boot Ubuntu when the cd is in the drive
[02:44] <nacsot> shadowblade?
[02:44] <m0se5> nacsot: Most use Windows networking (or Samba in the Linux world)... What software are you using? Virtualbox?
[02:44] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: I dont know if you can limit SSH via the key. I dont think you can
[02:44] <shadowblade> nascot: the problem would be with your vm software then (parallels) - there are a lot of odd workarounds vm software makers have to use for sharing data between the host and vm. for example, when running an ubuntu host with vmware and a windows vm, it treats the host drive as a network drive
[02:44] <nacsot> i am on a mac usuing parallels to run ubuntu
[02:44] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: so i plug in my USB, and what?
[02:44] <Cpudan80> TwoToneSpirit: there are two keys - a public one and a private one - restricting based on the public key is silly, as anyone can obtain your public key
[02:44] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: You plug in your usb, you boot an ubuntu live cd, you hit install and choose to install on the usb drive instead of the hard drive
[02:44] <abstrakt> where how do i check iptables?
[02:45] <abstrakt> to be sure that port 80 is open?
[02:45] <Cpudan80> restricting based on private key wont work - because the server wont know what the private key is ...
[02:45] <nacsot> so i need to give ubuntu access to my network?
[02:45] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: sudo iptables -L
[02:45] <shadowblade> nascot: your software may have a similar function
[02:45] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: im done installing Ubuntu to my USB..now..how to boot it ?
[02:45] <nacsot> but its gonna be parallels not ubuntu?
[02:45] <shadowblade> nascot: correct
[02:45] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: how to boot if my BIOS doesnt support USB Booting
[02:45] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: burn a super grub disk cd, and read http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Howto_Boot_Linux_only
[02:46] <nacsot> alright ill give that a try thanks for the help
[02:46] <shadowblade> nascot: np, good luck
[02:46] <nacsot> thanks
[02:47] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..so rate the difficulty of this procedure..be kind */5?
[02:47] <abstrakt> ok iptables -L says policy ACCEPT for all the things it lists
[02:47] <shadowblade>  I'm trying to set up a router using ubuntu 8.04 server edition and I'm having problems configuring my network cards. At the moment I've got a temporary one working in the machine so I can use apt-get, wget, etc. My two wired cards are realtek 8139C cards. During boot, there's  a message saying the cards are not compatible with the 8139cp driver, and I should try the 8139too drivers. I've tried removing the 8139cp module, th
[02:47] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then you have no firewall
[02:48] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Not hard. Burning the cd then to boot. At the option choose what language you want, then choose GNU/Linux and "Boot GNU/Linux"
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah i didn't think so
[02:48] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: let me summarize: Install Ubuntu to USB, burn Super Grub Disk to CD, insert both to their respective places and reboot...
[02:48] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then port 80 is open
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah thought so
[02:48] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: many ISPs block inbound traffic to port 80
[02:48] <dr_dasos> is there a way to add black bars to cover up information in a PDF file using document viewer and then to print a new pdf with the obscured info?
[02:48] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, this freakin server doesn't freakin work!
[02:48] <abstrakt> blahhh!
[02:48] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yep, and then choose to boot Linux. Do not choose to fix Grub
[02:48] <Cpudan80> In fact - if your ISP (residential) is worth a damn, they'll block port 80 abstrakt
[02:49] <Cpudan80> They should also be blocking 25 too
[02:49] <Cpudan80> (sendmail)
[02:49] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: after choosing language, choose GNU/Linux
[02:49] <Cpudan80> err smtp
[02:49] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, i'm quite well aware of that this isn't a residential server
[02:49] <ret> Anyone here mind helping me with a sound issue?
[02:49] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, or connection, it's a dedicated from slicehost
[02:49] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: oh ... well that's a different story
[02:49] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes, and then there is an option for Boot Linux, or something like that
[02:50] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: Is it Boot GNU/Linux or GNU/Linux Directly
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: so even if you go to http://yourIPHere - it fails?
[02:50] <abstrakt> that's why i'm pissed
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, completely correct
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: and you're using a LAMP I assume?
[02:50] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Just GNU/Linux, you're going to point it at the grub that ubuntu installed on the usb drive
[02:50] <Cpudan80> (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP)
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup, Ubuntu 8.04 Apache 2.2
[02:50] <BePhantom> does anyone know how to fix this nohz local_softirq_pending 100 error? i get it everytime i want to wake my system after suspend it
[02:50] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: and is Apache running?
[02:50] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yes
[02:50] <abstrakt> apache is running
[02:50] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: After that..if all goes okay, it will boot to Ubuntu already?
[02:50] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: It should
[02:51] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok ... if you do telnet localhost 80 from your SSH to the box, what happens?
[02:51] <abstrakt> i've run /etc/init.d/apache reload i don't know how many times now
[02:51] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, lemme find out
[02:51] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: or from your terminal or whatever
[02:51] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..is this 100% safe?it wont screw up my old windows xp os?
[02:51] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Booting it yes, if you tell it to fix the mbr or any of that then maybe not
[02:52] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you do mess up windows, Super Grub Disk can fix it
[02:52] <Cpudan80> raven10: if you mess up the windows MBR real bad, you can always pop in an XP CD and restore it
[02:52] <Cpudan80> its not the end of the world
[02:52] <Stupendo1ssteve> Or that ^
[02:52] <raven10> oh..so..u said u've tried this one..so your BIOS doesnt support USB booting/
[02:53] <Cpudan80> most dont
[02:53] <Stupendo1ssteve> Mine does, but I have used it to boot on some odd setups
[02:53] <Cpudan80> that arent very new anyway
[02:53] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: oh ok..uhm..i cant seem to find the right link to download super grub disk
[02:53] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, well when i use PuTTY to Telnet to port 80 on the host, i get a completely black/blank screen and then a dialog box saying "Connection closed by remote host"
[02:53] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: One sec..,.
[02:53] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: then it worked
[02:53] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: pm me
[02:53] <PhotoJim> abstrakt: that tells you your apache is working.  otherwise the connection would have been refused.
[02:53] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: i will burn it in a CD..ok/
[02:54] <Cpudan80> or well you dont have to pm me I guess
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php?pid=5
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> You can use a floppy instead if you have one
[02:54] <m0se5> Cpudan80: good.. cause I'm listening
[02:54] <Stupendo1ssteve> it's really a tiny file
[02:54] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: so basically, apache gave you a tunnel long enough to send some formed HTML requests, you didnt send it after the default timeout of a few seconds, so it killed your pipe
[02:54] <Cpudan80> It did exactly what it was supposed to do
[02:55] <Cpudan80> m0se5: ?
[02:55] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..ok then...is it an ISO file?
[02:55] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: The one at the link I sent you is an iso, that is made for cd
[02:55] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: If you wanted to use floppy the link is on the right of the page
[02:56] <raven10> oh ok..thank you so much sir!
[02:56] <raven10> il be back in an hour..got to do some chores
[02:56] <bonez46> Curious ... how young are some of the users here? I have a son 13.. who wants to learn... and I'll like to have him come here to get help at times...
[02:56] <Stupendo1ssteve> Good luck :)
[02:56] <raven10> will u be here?
[02:56] <m0se5> Cpudan80: If you went pm, we all can't benefit from the story :P
[02:56] <raven10> up to how many hours?
[02:56] <PhotoJim> bonez46: I'm well past 13, but 13's not too young.  we'll be gentle.
[02:56] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Maybe, I don't know how late I'll be here
[02:57] <raven10> ok then..gtg steve..thank you!
[02:57] <akgraner> bonez46: my daughter is 13 and my son is 11 and they are learning...I haven't sent them in here yet..but they are aware of the channels...
[02:57] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: OK so
[02:57] <ASrock> what terminal command should i use to mount a ntfs partition
[02:57] <bonez46> PhotoJim: this boy, my son.... keeps bugging me to install win xp pro.. but I want him to get his feet wet with linux and ubuntu.. and fall inlove with this instead..
[02:57] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: when I do telnet [yourIP] 80 - I get connection refused
[02:58] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yeah i got that too
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: that tells me that your apache is not accepting connections from outside IPs
[02:58] <PhotoJim> bonez46: I have a bias but I think Linux is more fun if he actually wants to learn how to *use* a computer.
[02:58] <bonez46> akgraner: it's tough when they get games and stuff from the video store or library, which require windows to play
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: but telnet localhost 80 --- that worked?
[02:58] <scunizi> bonez46: he's probably trying to get you to the first step of a gaming machine :)... introduce him to linux games..
[02:58] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, no
[02:58] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: you just said it did ...
[02:58] <abstrakt> uh no
[02:59] <abstrakt> i can scroll up and find exactly what i said
[02:59] <abstrakt> or i can say it again...
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Cpudan80, well when i use PuTTY to Telnet to port 80 on the host, i get a completely black/blank screen and then a dialog box saying "Connection closed by remote host"
[02:59] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ^ That mean it worked
[02:59] <bonez46> scunizi: does that mean I need to build a new machine.. and stuff it with an expensive video card.. and such, so that it will cook and perform well?
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Connection refused means it failed
[02:59] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, right, well i get two dialog boxes sorry
[02:59] <abstrakt> the second one says connection refused
[02:59] <abstrakt> the first one says closed by remote host
[02:59] <Cpudan80> how are you using putty on linux ?
[03:00] <scunizi> bonez46: only if you're going to put windows on it.. the latest games for that platform eat as much resources as Vista
[03:00] <coreyman> where are wine files kept, and where are firefox files kept.
[03:00] <Cpudan80> oh I guess it has a unix binary
[03:00] <akgraner> bonez46: we haven't ever really used the computers for gaming...so I can't speak to that..and since we have had kids they only used Windows at school other than that it's been a Mac...or my husband's Linux machines...
[03:00] <shadowblade> anyone?
[03:00] <scunizi> bonez46: linux games will probably work fine on what you have now.
[03:00] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: at your terminal for your server - type telnet localhost 80 at the prompt - see what happens
[03:00] <bonez46> scunizi: that's my point.. I don't want them getting used to having to have a really fast. processor.. the latest.. ever on the treadmill, of upgrading and such
[03:00] <durt> coreyman, if your talking about per user files they're hidden in your own dir.
[03:01] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, k
[03:01] <abstrakt> one sec
[03:01] <coreyman> durt thx
[03:01] <scunizi> bonez46: I agree with you.. it's a never ending cycle.
[03:01] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, blah, telnet command not found... is that easily remedied with apt-get install telnet
[03:01] <abstrakt> ?
[03:01] <Cpudan80> yeah
[03:01] <mupa> hello, i just bult a new htpc. the mobo has hdmi out and using a nvidia 8200 integrated. i have the nvidia driver installed and working, but I want to change the res to 1366x768... but cannot see that particualr resolution anywhere... i do get 1200x700 and 1920x1080
[03:02] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[03:02] <EtFb> My dmesg has two lines like this whenever I reboot: "[   26.412219] 0000:00:1a.7 EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug ?) 01010001" -- they take 8 seconds each.  How do I fix that and save 16 seconds from my reboot time?
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Hi. I'm having direct rendering issues.
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller.
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work.
[03:02] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve!!! Uhm..i saw a list of downloads...which one is it?
[03:02] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: are you sure apache is running ?
[03:02] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions?
[03:03] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup
[03:03] <LakesProse_> isn't directory mask supposed to mean that all new created directories will have given permissions!?!
[03:03] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: thats very odd .... try ps ax | grep apache
[03:03] <abstrakt> hmmm...
[03:03] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Those are mirrors, they should all be the same
[03:03] <abstrakt> well actually i did both apache and httpd
[03:03] <bonez46> scunizi: I know I need better video on all my machines.. what would be a great card, that will allow compiz to run.. anything available under $50 per card?
[03:03] <abstrakt> and i only get the grep instance... so i guess not
[03:03] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions/
[03:03] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:03] <[MindVirus]> *suggestions?
[03:04] <Dracie> sudo invoked apache2 restart
[03:04] <coreyman> i found wine files in my home dir, but i cant find firefox
[03:04] <Dracie> cleaner
[03:04] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: all of those are the same?the exe, gz, tr?
[03:04] <coreyman> where are my firefox downloaded files
[03:04] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, did that... still no apache processes
[03:04] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Ah, no...
[03:04] <durt> bonez46, whatever the stores have in old Nvidia
[03:04] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: well did it restart ?
[03:04] <bonez46> akgraner: I admire a flower amongst all these thorns..
[03:04] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, it says it did, yes
[03:04] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: hmmmm
[03:04] <Cpudan80> very odd ...
[03:04] <bonez46> old nvidia, eh? is that the best card for compiz and to upgrade?
[03:05] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: see whats in the log /var/log/apache2.log
[03:05] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: thats my question..which one after clicking a mirror....i can see a lot of links
[03:05] <durt> bonez46, for under 50
[03:05] <bonez46> ok..
[03:05] <raven10> http://download.linux-live-cd.org/Super_Grub_Disk/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/
[03:05] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: http://forjamari.linex.org/frs/download.php/1133/super_grub_disk_0.9774.iso
[03:05] <Stupendo1ssteve> That's what you want to put on the cd
[03:05] <raven10> is that the whole thing already?
[03:06] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, hmm... i've got some PHP fatal errors in there
[03:06] <Stupendo1ssteve> Yes
[03:06] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: err sorry - the apache logs are /var/log/apache2/...
[03:06] <abstrakt> doesn't wanna setup PDO
[03:06] <abstrakt> apparently
[03:06] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: oh..have u tried the Brasero?does it really burn images?
[03:06] <scunizi> bonez46: an nvidia mx 400 and above will work fine.. those are agp..
[03:06] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Brasero can burn images
[03:06] <johnson1> how do i read a .ko file
[03:06] <bonez46> ok..
[03:06] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: PDO ?
[03:07] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: have u tried burning an image through it?did it work?
[03:07] <slerder> Hey guys, is there such thing as a 26 inch lcd tv with 1080 p? and if so, in that size of a screen can you tell the difference between 720p, 1080p and 1080i? thanks
[03:07] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, yup... it's a PHP database abstraction layer
[03:07] <abstrakt> PECL extension
[03:07] <Tommy_Bres> someone fix my sound, it dont work :(
[03:07] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok well - if its failing to start because of some mod - remove that mod
[03:07] <scunizi> bonez46: better yet and probably still available retail is the 6000 series of nvidia.. I had a 6600 that worked great
[03:07] <Stupendo1ssteve> raven10: Yes
[03:07] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work. I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Any suggestions?
[03:07] <neatojones> Hello.  Does anyone know how to get the kernel module "loop" for Ubuntu?  I'm running Jaunty?
[03:07] <Cpudan80> slerder: off topic - you wont be able to tell the difference at that size though
[03:08] <LandonG> Hey all, I have a quick question, I was just wondering how I would find out what my wireless connection is called?
[03:08] <Stupendo1ssteve> johnson1: You don't read them, they are binary files. You load them using lsmod
[03:08] <LandonG> I know my wired is called ath0
[03:08] <LandonG> sorry, Eth0
[03:08] <Cpudan80> LandonG: iwconfig
[03:08] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: uhm..coz it seems so simple...i dont know how to actually use it
[03:08] <LandonG> IWconfig
[03:08] <LandonG> That makes more sense than IF
[03:08] <johnson1> i want to see the c code for it
[03:08] <LandonG> Thanks
[03:08] <johnson1> i want to see the c code
[03:08] <abstrakt> sunnuva
[03:08] <johnson1> for virtio-net driver
[03:08] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: It's called loop
[03:08] <Cpudan80> LandonG: the non-wifi interfaces say "no wireless extensions" or something
[03:09] <abstrakt> i'm *still* getting PDO errors... i don't even have PDO loaded in my php.ini !
[03:09] <abstrakt> blah
[03:09] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: modprobe
[03:09] <Stupendo1ssteve> neatojones: er, modprobe loop
[03:09] <[MindVirus]> *suggestions?
[03:09] <neatojones> Stupendo1ssteve:  I tried modprobe loop and it said it wasn't installed
[03:09] <johnson1> in /lib/2.6 generic/kernel/drivers/virtio
[03:09] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: but that thing might be loading a module into apache directl
[03:09] <neatojones> FATAL: Module loop not found.
[03:09] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: see /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:10] <bonez46> scunizi: I'll look for a 6000 series then..
[03:10] <Stupendo1ssteve> johnson1: Thar's not the c code... you need to install the kernel source
[03:10] <neatojones> Stupendo1ssteve:  I've been searching for info on the net and can't find anything.
[03:10] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, nah it's a PHP module, not an apache module
[03:10] <johnson1> how do i get it
[03:10] <johnson1> ?
[03:10] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: you could disable all of PHP for testing
[03:10] <johnson1> how do i get kernel source code?
[03:10] <johnson1> from where?
[03:10] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: a2dismod php5 (to reenable use a2enmod)
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[03:11] <abstrakt> k
[03:11] <hhp2k> Hey everyone!
[03:11] <nvstp> Morning
[03:11] <[MindVirus]> Direct rendering will not work. I'm using an Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller. Any suggestions?
[03:11] <hhp2k> Does anyone know if there is a way to embed Pidgin's Buddy List Window into the desktop on Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04)?
[03:12] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, ok cool it works now
[03:12] <abstrakt> fucking PDO
[03:12] <abstrakt> such crap... this makes no sense
[03:12] <EtFb> What does "BIOS handoff failed" mean and why does it take 16 seconds to do it?
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ok - glad it works, at least you have a jumping off point
[03:13] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, how do i find out what package a given file belongs to?
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: ehhhhh
[03:13] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: dunno
[03:13] <Cpudan80> someone will know
[03:13] <EtFb> abstrakt: <sudo apt-file search [filename]> is good
[03:13] <Stupendo1ssteve> abstrakt: dpkg -S
[03:13] <EtFb> Stupendo1ssteve: Ah! Old skool!
[03:13] <abstrakt> Cpudan80, e.g. there is a file /etc/php5/conf.d/pdo.ini
[03:14] <abstrakt> i need to find out what package installed that
[03:14] <Stupendo1ssteve> EtFb: Indeed, but it works ;)
[03:15] <kantlivelong> hey all, i was wondering what shutdown dialog app ubuntu uses? im a gentoo user and i dont seem to be getting the same stuff
[03:15] <Cpudan80> abstrakt: dpkg -S filePathhere
[03:15] <EtFb> Stupendo1ssteve: Therez no skool l1ke tha old skool!  Or somesuch pseudo-african-american argot.
[03:15] <Cpudan80> as per Stupendo1ssteve
[03:15] <abstrakt> wtf
[03:15] <abstrakt> i think that the php5 binary in 8.04 is b0rked
[03:15] <Stupendo1ssteve> Hmm. Wonder why my name is spelled wrong.
[03:15] <Cpudan80> it isnt - but you can think that if you want ;-)
[03:15] <Stupendo1ssteve> I just noticed, time to fix my .irssi/config typo!
[03:16]  * EtFb bets that Stupendo1ssteve will come back and his name will be Doris.
[03:16] <harpreet> How can I use windows applications on ubuntu (except wine , which is exceptionally slow). any help?
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> EtFb: Hardly ;)
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> I forgot I had irssi running in screen on another system...
[03:17] <Cpudan80> harpreet: ehh you ... cant
[03:17] <EtFb> Stupendoussteve: Hi Doris!
[03:17] <harpreet> Cpudan80: there has to be another way
[03:17] <Stupendoussteve> EtFb: Why hello, Mary!
[03:17] <Cpudan80> harpreet: wine, virtual machine, thats pretty much your only choices
[03:17] <EtFb> harpreet: There are a million answers to that question.  Most but not all of them are "no".
[03:17] <EtFb> Stupendoussteve: Curses!  You saw through my cunning disguise!
[03:18] <mupa> hello, i just bult a new htpc. the mobo has hdmi out and using a nvidia 8200 integrated. i have the nvidia driver installed and working, but I want to change the res to 1366x768... but cannot see that particualr resolution anywhere... i do get 1200x700 and 1920x1080
[03:18] <Cpudan80> harpreet: or you could find the windows source and recompile/rewrite the stuff to use unix/linux system calls/utils
[03:18] <harpreet> Cpudan80: true
[03:18] <EtFb> harpreet: Give us some more info.  What do you want to run?  If it's Firefox, easy.  If it's World of Warcraft, maybe harder.
[03:18] <Ububegin> i am able to do this in a console...sftp user@ip.com in a console.. How do I modify this command to run in the nautilus(or GUI window) window
[03:19] <datruth> Does anyone here use ubuntu 8.10 and is able to vpn to windows 2003 server?
[03:19] <harpreet> EtFb: I want to run an accounting software that is made for windows vista
[03:19] <kantlivelong> datruth: i know networkmanager can connect to win2003 vpn ive also had it connect to cisco routers
[03:19] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: In the places menu, there is connect to server. Choose SSH
[03:19] <tymithe> Need help : I'm Just installed Ubuntu, My Sound in web pages and the whole system is not working. Some one help?
[03:19] <harpreet> EtFb: I hate running windows , specially on April 01,
[03:20] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: It may not be called places, and may not be called ssh, but it  is similar
[03:20] <dimy> Dimy@
[03:20] <EtFb> harpreet: You might get it running in WINE, but not otherwise.  Being accounting s/w, it's probably closed source.  Being Vista, it'll be slow in VMWare.  You may need to just bite the bullet and put up with it, or else try a pencil and paper.
[03:21] <tymithe> ?
[03:21] <harpreet> EtFb: I hate microsoft
[03:21] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: I tired this... sftp://ip.com ... but I cant get throught...
[03:21] <tymithe> can any one help please?
[03:21] <EtFb> harpreet: But Microsoft loves you!  (Where you = your wallet.)
[03:21] <marcham89> Hey I have a dual boot system. Every time I log in I have to mount the windows partition. is there any way I can get it to auto mount on login?
[03:21] <datruth> kantlivelong: Ok I keep getting failed vpn  now in the syslog I see Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not supported! what can I do to fix this? I even cleared the password so it prompts me I even used gconf and added the refuse-eap yes key still fails but I tested with windows and the vpn does work is there something I'm doing wrong?
[03:21] <harpreet> EtFb: good joke
[03:21] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: You are using gnome, correct?
[03:22] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: yeah...
[03:22] <tymithe> Need help : I'm Just installed Ubuntu, My Sound in web pages and the whole system is not working. Some one help?
[03:22] <EtFb> harpreet: Joke?  Uh, yeah, joke... right...
[03:22] <TheShahFactor> just do a google tymithe
[03:22] <FAJ> Hi I need some really big help here; after the last round of kernel updates, ndiswrapper has stopped working alltogether!  it will show the drivers in ndiswrapper -l but modprobe says that "Module ndiswrapper not found." usbcore shows ups and is working, but i cannot get ndiswrapper to work again!  I have tried reinstalling ndiswrapper, and doing ndiswrapper -m to no avail HELP PLEASE!
[03:22] <dimy> #semarang
[03:22] <EtFb> tymithe: There are a lot of web pages out there that offer help on that.  One of them might work, if you're lucky.
[03:22] <LandonG> Hey all, I have another quick question: I was connected to my school wireless network just fine for awhile. It ran a WPA-RADIUS with a TKIP encryption. Then all of a sudden it stopped working, and I no longer have the option for TKIP or WPA-Radius. I have WPA_Supplicant installed and i think I have it working. It uses PEAP v0 and MSCHAPv2. Anyone have an idea
[03:22] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: In the bar at the top is a Places menu. Do Places> Connect to Server and choose SSH from the drop down, then put in the info
[03:22] <pumpkinseed> hello everyone
[03:22] <Stupendoussteve> It will mount the server and open in the file manager
[03:23] <etzerd> hello all
[03:23] <etzerd> ?
[03:23] <pumpkinseed> hello etzerd
[03:23] <Stupendoussteve> etzerd: Hello etzerd ?
[03:23] <etzerd> is there a way that I can install some application automaticly
[03:23] <etzerd> pumpkinseed: hello
[03:24] <EtFb> tymithe: Hint: you'll have better luck if you're using a Lenovo, IBM, Toshiba or Dell machine.  If you're on an Acer, give up now and return it to place of purchase.
[03:24] <TheShahFactor> etzerd : synaptic?
[03:24] <LandonG> etzerd: use the synaptic package manager
[03:24] <etzerd> thanks
[03:24] <Stupendoussteve> etzerd: apt-get install?
[03:24] <FAJ> Hi I need some really big help here; after the last round of kernel updates, ndiswrapper has stopped working alltogether!  it will show the drivers in ndiswrapper -l but modprobe says that "Module ndiswrapper not found." usbcore shows ups and is working, but i cannot get ndiswrapper to work again!  I have tried reinstalling ndiswrapper, and doing ndiswrapper -m to no avail HELP PLEASE!
[03:24] <tymithe> EtFb <: im running it as in im running it off a desktop and i wanted to try the linux out
[03:25] <scunizi> what command do i use at terminal to see if nvidia's driver is loaded?
[03:25] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: lsmod, look for nvidia
[03:25] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: i tried SSH..and the drive got mounted... but when I click on it, it simply states as *Loading*... :S
[03:25] <lu6cifer> Does gparted let you resize your windows partition, and move that unallocated space into /home?
[03:26] <EtFb> tymithe: Short plan of attack: Find out the exact model of sound hardware.  Google for that along with keywords like "sound" and "Ubuntu".  Follow instructions.  Realise they don
[03:26] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: And look in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, grep for nvidia and make sure X is using the nvidia driver
[03:26] <etzerd> ?
[03:26] <EtFb> tymithe: ... Realise they don't work.  Repeat ad infinitum.
[03:26] <Stupendoussteve> Ububegin: Hmm. Well that's how it should mount :x
[03:26] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: got it.. it's there.. weirdness lately. I try to load a game like Alien Arena and it screws up the resolution and doesn't load.. then I have to restart the gdm..
[03:26] <dsmith_> who does LVM recoveries?
[03:26] <Ububegin> Stupendoussteve: what is port number to use
[03:27] <Ububegin> for SSH
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: 22
[03:27] <etzerd> when I open a windows I cannot see the Minimize, Maximize and the close button on the top right side
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> etzerd: Does the frame show up? do you use compiz?
[03:27] <harpreet> has anyone tried gnucash
[03:27] <lu6cifer> etzerd: are the buttons hidden under the panel?
[03:27] <tymithe> EtFB : I'm not a moron, I have been doing this all day long man, I looked up my MOBO ( ASUS MSN-E SLI It runs C-Media HD Chip) and still couldnt find info on it.
[03:27] <etzerd> Yes the frame show up
[03:27] <Rabbitbunny> harpreet: Yes, got a question?
[03:28] <Stupendoussteve> tymithe: Tried looking for the exact output from lspci?
[03:28] <harpreet> Rabbitbunny: how different is it than simply accounting for windows?
[03:28] <lu6cifer> just move the panel and drag out the window. It should pop into place
[03:28] <etzerd> but with minize or maximize button
[03:28] <tymithe> Stup : no how?
[03:28] <tymithe> threw term..
[03:28] <tymithe> ?
[03:28] <Stupendoussteve> lu6cifer: You can hold alt and drag a window
[03:28] <lu6cifer> yea
[03:28] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: grepping the log file shows the nvidia driver is installed.. I can't activate compiz either.. with previously I have been able to.  I wonder if one of the latest updates broke my nvidia driver install.. (I got it directly from nvidia..)
[03:29] <lu6cifer> that works as well
[03:29] <Rabbitbunny> harpreet: Ah, never used simply accounting. However, if you look at the screenshots and maybe read the wikipedia on double entry accounting, you should get a pretty good idea. Overall it's ont of the programs I use most.
[03:29] <etzerd> I don used compiz
[03:29] <Stupendoussteve> scunizi: Ah, it wouldn't surprise me
[03:29] <Rabbitbunny> etzerd: Ouch, I'm sorry then, I don't have the faintest what could be causing your problem, sorry.
[03:29] <c0l2e> you cannot install other OS like windows XP when you already installed ubuntu right??
[03:30] <Rabbitbunny> c0l2e: Yes you can, It's called 'dual-booting'.
[03:30] <soreau> c0l2e: You can
[03:30] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: that's probably what's going on.. I can't load any of my standard games.. looks like it's off to nvidia for the latest :)
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: not on the same partition
[03:30] <c0l2e> coz I got partitions like /boot / and /home
[03:30] <harpreet> c0l2e: yes, you cam
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: but on a different partition / HDD ... you can
[03:30] <soreau> c0l2e: You may have to do some repartitioning but it's quite doable
[03:30] <harpreet> c0l2e: install those ontop of ubuntu
[03:30] <c0l2e> but i already got 4 partitions
[03:30] <Stupendoussteve> c0l2e: and you'll probably have to reinstall grub
[03:30] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: XP will break your ubuntu bootloader
[03:30] <c0l2e> 1 for /home, 1 for /boot, 1 for swap and last for /
[03:30] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny: :S ... still laoding ....
[03:31] <Cpudan80> I wonder if XP counts partitions it cant read
[03:31] <c0l2e> when I tried to install windows XP.. there's a partition problem
[03:31] <Cpudan80> in the 4 partition limit...
[03:31] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: does the other box have SSH? can you ping it?
[03:31] <Cpudan80> oh well if it gives an error than that answers that question
[03:31] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: so merge some of them
[03:31] <c0l2e> Cpudan80:  hmm
[03:32] <c0l2e> Cpudan80: what is the allow max partition that windows XP can install?
[03:32] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:32] <Cpudan80> I think 4 - ##windows would know for sure
[03:32] <Stupendoussteve> Cpudan80: The 4 primary partition limit is bios, not imposed by windows
[03:32] <c0l2e> if i made it to 3 partition and the ntfs for XP is the port can it be installed?
[03:32] <Anon> Could someone help me here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6994058
[03:32] <Cpudan80> Stupendoussteve: really?
[03:33] <Cpudan80> I didnt know that
[03:33] <Stupendoussteve> c0l2e: If you're willing to reinstall, I suggest using a primary for /boot, and putting others on a logical partition
[03:33] <c0l2e> or i just reinstall ubuntu .. clear partition first.. install windows XP then install ubuntu
[03:33] <Cpudan80> c0l2e: in theory
[03:33] <pumpkinseed> I have a problem. I am running ubuntu 8.10 64bit with a GeForce 8800 GTX. I was using the restricted 177 drivers and then tried to install the 180.22 drivers and they bonked my video (could only get into a command prompt). After lots and lots of work I got my system to accept the 180.11 drivers, but I can not get it past "low graphics mode". Any help would be appreciated.
[03:33] <[MindVirus]> Is mbr safe to remove?
[03:33] <Anon> I don't know if I even have a graphics card.
[03:34] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: umm no
[03:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Where does your monitor plug in?
[03:34] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: you have to have an MBR to ... boot
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> I know.
[03:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I have a laptop.
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> [mindvirus]: the mbr package just has an mbr.bin file in it and perhaps some other things
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> But autoremove is telling me it's optional.
[03:34] <ceil420> Rabbitbunny, could be an integrated chip
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> it is
[03:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: You don't.
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> unless you want lilo or some other things to fix your bootloader
[03:34] <mrsteveman1> removing mbr package isn't going to suddenly make the system not boot
[03:34] <[MindVirus]> So which is it, mrsteveman1, Cpudan80?
[03:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Intersting. Exactly how do you know this?
[03:35] <Anon> *interesting.
[03:35] <mrsteveman1> removing a package isn't going to wipe the mbr or anything
[03:35] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny:i am able to do this in a console...sftp user@ip.com in a console.. How do I modify this command to run in the nautilus(or GUI window) window... and i oso can ssh to access the drive
[03:35] <Ububegin> *also*
[03:35] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: It's a laptop, Where would the card go? read wikipedia "AGP" "PCI" to see how they attach.
[03:36] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Isn't it possible for a laptop to have an internal card?
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> Cpudan80, so is it safe or not?
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Yes. It's still a graphics card
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Otherwise you would not have a picture ;)
[03:36] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: You could get a GUI ftp client?
[03:36] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: I dont know about the mbr package
[03:36] <Cpudan80> !info mbr
[03:36] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Well, there aren't any graphics cards shown by doing lspci.
[03:36] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Yes, You have an internal card, the Intel.
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> Sweet. OK.
[03:36] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: optional - it can be removed
[03:36] <[MindVirus]> So it's optional.
[03:36] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: VGA?
[03:36] <pumpkinseed> I have a problem. I am running ubuntu 8.10 64bit with a GeForce 8800 GTX. I was using the restricted 177 drivers and then tried to install the 180.22 drivers and they bonked my video (could only get into a command prompt). After lots and lots of work I got my system to accept the 180.11 drivers, but I can not get it past "low graphics mode". Any help would be appreciated.
[03:37] <[MindVirus]> You scared me for a second. :)
[03:37] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: OK. At least I know where I stand now.
[03:38] <scunizi> Stupendoussteve: it was definitely the driver.. by updating from the .28 driver to the .44 driver I also notice a considerable increase in the screen writes.. pleasant install.
[03:38] <lepassive_> I got X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[03:38] <lepassive_>  error with vlc and totem ?
[03:38] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: honestly, its probly better to roll back to the 177 drivers, i didn't try to fight it with my 9800gx2, i had the same problem as you
[03:38] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Out of curiosity, what made you think one was in there?
[03:38] <Anon> But for some reason, nexuiz won't launch at all. I suspect it's a graphics problem. Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/141072/
[03:38] <RedMushroom> is the person who talked with me about my troubles getting a boot floppy for my box in here still?
[03:38] <datruth> Can someone please help me with VPN to windows 2003 server from ubuntu?
[03:38] <RedMushroom> we were talking over IM
[03:38] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Just an unfounded assumption.
[03:38] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: could you help me with the rollback
[03:39] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: i need to make sure all remnants of the newer drivers are removed, etc.
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: go into low-graphics mode, login, go to system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: you can, after you load the 177 drivers
[03:39] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: The reason that game won't run is that your card doesn't support that resolution, find how to change that.
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: then you can apt-get purge the 180 drivers if you want
[03:40] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I kid you not, but it worked until Monday.
[03:40] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny: thanks.. just got gftp... its sweet...
[03:40] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Could I be missing some drivers?
[03:41] <keith> Is there a linux command to find the block size of a filesystem?
[03:41] <Anon> Ububegin: Try filezilla.
[03:42] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Does glxgears run?
[03:42] <dsb586> hola regrese
[03:42] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I just loaded up the 180.44 drivers and they are working excellent.. one of the issues installing them is you have to use synaptic and uninstall all nvidia references listed.. then install the new drivers from a tty with the gui stopped..
[03:42] <outoftime> hi all - trying to open a graphical app directly from a terminal session using xinit, but sound doesn't seem to be working properly. anyone know off hand how I would start up alsa and/or pulse?
[03:42] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Nope. 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:42] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[03:42] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: hey..i tried SGD..but it says Error 15: File doesn't exist... when i choose GNU/Linux
[03:42] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Your hardware acceleration is broken
[03:43] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: hmm, i didn't attempt that
[03:43] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: How could I fix it?
[03:43] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: that is unless you're getting the 180 drivers from midibuntu. In which case you are installing older drivers that might have issues.
[03:43] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: nothing in hardware devices except the 180 drivers
[03:44] <pumpkinseed> musikgoar|main: hardware "drivers" rather
[03:44] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: .......hey..i tried SGD..but it says Error 15: File doesn't exist... when i choose GNU/Linux
[03:44] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: This forum thread may help... http://tinyurl.com/crgcjb
[03:44] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I guess if you're running intrepid you have access to the 180 driver directly from apt-get or synaptic.. no need to install from the terminal.. however if you get the latest drivers direct from nvidia you do.
[03:45] <Stupendoussteve> raven10: Look through the SBM docs and see if you need to supply an argument. I believe you need to tell it the partition
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: i do have the medibuntu repo in my sources
[03:45] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'll take a look, thanks.
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: hmm, i'm not sure why the 177's wouldn't show in your hardware drivers list
[03:46] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: the 180 drivers in the repos are version 180.11.. those weren't very good.. the latest version is 180.44 and is only available from nvidia.
[03:46] <raven10> Stupendo1ssteve: SBM?hmm..weh..the only drives and partitions that i can see is my System recovery (hd0,0) and Windows XP Os (hd0,1)
[03:46] <dimy> #buntu
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: is there still the issue that you have to reconfigure the drivers after every kernel update?
[03:46] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: what kind of card do you have.. nvidia obviously but which one.  Yes you have to reinstall the drivers after every kernel update
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> 9800gx2
[03:47] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: yea.. I'd go directly to nvidia for that card.. you'll notice a big difference..
[03:47] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Restarting X.
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: thanks for the suggestion
[03:48] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.44.html
[03:48] <musikgoat|main> i would need the 64 bit drivers, but i can find the link
[03:49] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:49] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: X is working. I'll check what glxgears does now.
[03:49] <Anon> Nope, still broken. I'll keep reading.
[03:49] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: amd or intel?
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> amd
[03:50] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html you'll see them on this page with the link
[03:50] <musikgoat|main> thanks scunizi
[03:50] <jeeves> is there a repair utility for OpenOffice docs?
[03:51] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'm reconfiguring x.
[03:51] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: although they say they are for redhat.. go figure.. maybe it's just a 64 bit thing
[03:51] <kitche> jeeves: what do you mean by repair?
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> scunizi: i'm not seeing it here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.44.html
[03:51] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: actually the amd version is ok.. it's the intel one that mentions only redhat
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> hmm, eh
[03:52] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: look at step 2.. right mouse click the link and save to the desktoop
[03:52] <scunizi> desktop
[03:52] <jeeves> kitche, when I try to open the file, I get a "general error" pop up
[03:52] <Royall> http://i43.tinypic.com/m9c903.png
[03:52] <Royall> Maybe we should have some sort of, you know, cap
[03:52] <backz> hi, my CPU is overheating when I'm doing hard work. How can I get thermal info about cores? I can't get /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/trip_point
[03:52] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: it's towards the bottom of the page
[03:52] <kitche> jeeves: hmm not sure never seen a general error with openoffice
[03:52] <Royall> And when the estimated time reaches that, change to 'Forever'
[03:53] <Anon> Restarting X. Again.
[03:53] <jeeves> kitche, neither have I!
[03:54] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:54] <Stupendoussteve> Welcome back
[03:54] <Anon> glxgears doesn't work :(
[03:54] <Anon> Will keep reading.
[03:54] <kitche> jeeves: is this a calc doc?
[03:55] <raven10> guys!!can i merge 2 partitions with GPARted?
[03:56] <raven10> guys..can i merge 2 partitions with GParted?
[03:57] <Leemp> Question: Everything inside /tmp/ should be fine to delete, manually, right?
[03:57] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: did you get it?
[03:57] <Ropechoborra> Leemp, Uhmmm i dont think so
[03:57] <Stupendoussteve> Leemp: Apps put things in /tmp
[03:57] <scream> Does the ati driver still not work in jaunty?
[03:57] <Leemp> Stupendoussteve: I realize, i'm trying to clear an apps cache heh
[03:57] <Ropechoborra> Leemp, it is not recommended to delete temp folder, the system uses it content i dont no for what..
[03:58] <Leemp> k
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: I've written instructions to install the driver if you want them
[03:58] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'm at the end of the thread, and the OP's issue isn't resolved. I'll try adding one last thing to xorg though.
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> yeah, thanks scunizi, i'm good
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: check out http://pastebin.com/m65ddab29
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> i'm not trying to update them currently
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> but i'll keep the link
[03:58] <Anon> Restarting X once again.
[03:58] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[03:58] <scunizi> musikgoat|main: the link will be good for 30 days.. copy them to your machine..
[03:59] <musikgoat|main> kk
[03:59] <wolter> what is getlibs command for?
[03:59] <Anon> Hello all.
[03:59] <phuz> I recently installed Windows onto my machine to dual boot, and now when I try to get Grub back onto the machine, I get Error 17:  Cannot mount selected partition after I do the following commands in order:  root (hd0,0) and then setup (hd0)
[04:00] <Anon> X still works.
[04:00] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[04:00] <harpreet> good Anon
[04:00] <Anon> But glxgears doesn't.
[04:00] <coreyman> How do I find a folder I have made, I forgot where it is stored.
[04:00] <pumpkinseed> Hello... I went to the synaptec package manager and removed all Nvidia 180 drivers and then installed the corresponding 177 drivers. I restarted and got into Ubuntu, but I can't get my screen resolution better than 800x600. Also, NVIDIA X Server Settings says I "don't appear to be using the NVIDAI X driver"
[04:00] <Anon> harpreet: :P
[04:00] <phuz> Anyone know how to get this working?
[04:00] <FAJ> what is up with the ubuntu kernel modules breaking nvidia?!
[04:00] <harpreet> phuz get what working?
[04:00] <Stupendoussteve> wolter: getlibs: Automatically solves dependencies for 32-bit programs on 64-bit
[04:00] <SomeoneE1se> is there a correct way to keep a script running? it should never exit but if it does I need it to start back up
[04:00] <Anon> FAJ: No spamming in here.
[04:00] <harpreet> phuz: ?
[04:00] <phuz> harpreet, I recently installed Windows onto my machine to dual boot, and now when I try to get Grub back onto the machine, I get Error 17:  Cannot mount selected partition after I do the following commands in order:  root (hd0,0) and then setup (hd0)
[04:00] <pumpkinseed> Anyone who knows how to get nvidia drivers working correctly in ubuntu 8.10 64bit? Help would be greatly appreciated
[04:01] <FAJ> Anon:  just looking for an answer.
[04:01] <raven10> answer please...can i merge 2 partitions with GPARted?
[04:01] <Anon> FAJ: Spam doesn't speed it.
[04:01] <Stupendoussteve> FAJ: Have not seen that happen. Reinstall nvidia drivers? They are often built against the current kernel and sometimes get broken
[04:01] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Any other ideas?
[04:01] <harpreet> phuz what operating system was installed first and what was installed 2nd?
[04:01] <coreyman> How do I find a folder I have made, I forgot where it is stored.
[04:02] <Anon> coreyman: open a terminal
[04:02] <unteatheredballo> coreyman: sudo updatedb; locate <foldername>
[04:02] <FAJ> Stupendoussteve:  hmmm...... b/c it was weird b/c what happened was the kernel for current hardy worked fine; updates, broke internet, installed linux-ubuntu-modules and headers. broke it.
[04:02] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Can't think of one, look around for your error there are other pages with the same error
[04:02] <phuz> harpreet, Ubuntu first, Win 7 second, and I am back into the Ubuntu livecd
[04:02] <Anon> coreyman: cd / && find -name foldernamehere -type d
[04:02] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Alright.
[04:02] <_Purple_> phu
[04:03] <_Purple_> phuz: that will erase ubuntu
[04:03] <harpreet> coreyman: easy here.......click on places and search for files
[04:03] <pumpkinseed> Anyone here who knows how to get nvidia drivers working correctly in ubuntu 8.10 64bit? Help would be greatly appreciated... I have a GeForce 8800 GTX.
[04:03] <phuz> _Purple_, I beg to differ.  I know what I'm doing, and Ubuntu is still there.
[04:04] <Stupendoussteve> phuz: Reinstalling grub?
[04:04] <phuz> Yes
[04:04] <phuz> And I can't seem to get it to work.
[04:04] <Stupendoussteve> Does ubuntu do some gui or something to do it?
[04:04] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I get no results on the forums for 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:04] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual'
[04:05] <harpreet> phuz: you have to change the order of operating system
[04:05] <unteatheredballo> Does anyone remember the name of that server administration program that runs on a web server?
[04:05] <Stupendoussteve> unteatheredballo: webmin? There are a lot of them
[04:05] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Untrue
[04:05] <FAJ> Anon: Stupendoussteve:  any other thoughts...
[04:05] <phuz> harpreet, That would be awesome, and totally work exactly the way I wanted if I could get grub back into my MBR
[04:05] <unteatheredballo> Stupendoussteve: ah! that's the one I was thinking of, thanks!
[04:05] <Wicked> pumpkinseed, same way you would for 32bit
[04:05] <FAJ> Anon: Stupendoussteve: has this been prevalent with the latest kernel stuffs?
[04:05] <Wicked> !nvidia | pumpkinseed
[04:05] <Anon> FAJ: I don't have an nvidia card so I don't know.
[04:06] <FAJ> Anon  ok
[04:06] <harpreet> phuz: because now grub is looking for primary OS which used to be ubuntu and as you know when windows are installed, windows can only be installed on primary disk
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> phuz: How are you trying to reinstall it? I only do it manually via chroot and command line
[04:06] <always> pumpkinseed, use driver in module-assistant
[04:06] <n8tuser> phuz -> you're on livecd now?  try  sudo -i  then  grub
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: This is completely untrue
[04:06] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: prove
[04:06] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Grub uses a config file on a partition which it is told when installed to the mbr
[04:06] <n8tuser> phuz -> then try  find /boot/grub/stage1
[04:06] <always> pumpkinseed, apt-get install module-assistant && m-a update && m-a prepare && m-a  (enter in menu and select and ADD nvidia-driver)
[04:07] <FAJ> Stupendoussteve: i tried installing nvidia drivers; no luck.
[04:07] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: As long as it can find (hd0,0) for example and find the config file, it can be told to boot anything
[04:07] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: but windows probably have taken over hd0,0 on mbr
[04:08] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: No. hd0,0 is the first partition on the drive, windows does not reorder the partitions
[04:09] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: there's nothing on the forums.
[04:09] <^paradox^> well ive been gone for an hour
[04:09] <Reefer> !help
[04:10] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: windows , by default don't even recognize ext2, 3 in GUI, otherwise it labels the area as bad sector
[04:10] <Reefer> ok i installed ubuntu with windows XP i installed vista and ubuntu stayed
[04:10] <Reefer> how do i delete it
[04:10] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Filesystem is not partition, they are different
[04:11] <the10nitro> on Ubuntu mv keeps the same timestamp, but does it do this on all *nix systems
[04:11] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: then windows has started using NTLDR
[04:11] <[MindVirus]> What comes after Z in the Ubuntu naming scheme?
[04:12] <pumpkinseed> the thing is I have the 177 drivers installed but they don't seem to be working --- can't go over 800x600 and NVIDIA X Server settings says 'i don't appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver"
[04:12] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Is there anything for me to do?
[04:12] <FraggedLocust> probably alpha
[04:12] <genii> the10nitro: mv doesn't update timestamps. This only happens if you create or touch a file
[04:12] <Stupendoussteve> Anon: Search for yoru error on google, I saw some and sdl
[04:12] <mrsteveman1> [mindvirus]: the singularity
[04:12] <FAJ> pumpkinseed: uninstall linux-ubuntu-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:12] <FraggedLocust> start doing the greek alphabet
[04:13] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: Grub loads the ntldr which loads windows, when grub is installed in the mbr. When you install windows second grub is removed from the mbr, you just have to put it back
[04:13] <always> pumpkinseed,  apt-get install nvidia-180-kernel-source nvidia-settings
[04:13] <pumpkinseed> FAJ: through synaptec?
[04:13] <geremy> does anybody here know how to get around octave not having matlab's getframe() function?
[04:13] <[MindVirus]> mrsteveman1, hahaha.
[04:13] <always> pumpkinseed, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and add  section driver >  Driver "nvidia"
[04:13] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Most of them are for nvidia, it seems.
[04:13] <FAJ> pumpkinseed:  sure... it kinda worked for mee...
[04:13] <the10nitro> genii: Thank you.  I wasn't sure if it would suddenly decide to touch them if I went to BSD or Fedora or something.
[04:14] <[MindVirus]> What is that even supposed to mean?
[04:14] <coreyman> how do i give everyone samba permissions?
[04:14] <genii> the10nitro: If you cp them it will... if you mv them it won't
[04:14] <harpreet> Stupendoussteve: i remember there is a gui utility in ubuntu which lets you back up grub, copy to mbr etc., i forgot the name
[04:15] <Anon> Hello all.
[04:15] <Anon> Oops.
[04:15] <Stupendoussteve> harpreet: I just do it manually the Gentoo Handbook way :D
[04:15] <harpreet> Anon hello
[04:15] <Stupendoussteve> [MindVirus]: After Z in the hard drives? After hdz?
[04:15] <harpreet> Anon: hello
[04:15]  * datruth is stumped 
[04:15] <[MindVirus]> Well, that's an interesting question too, so yes.
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> aa'
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> aa
[04:16] <Cpudan80> [MindVirus]: It rolls back over to A
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> But my original question is what goes after Z in Ubuntu's naming scheme?
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> (is my guess
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Aardvark?
[04:16] <datruth> Can someone point me to an how to of how to vpn to my windows 2003 server (thats the vpn server)?
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Then what? Bbear?
[04:16] <Cpudan80> maybe
[04:16] <Cpudan80> The names of the animals arent picked till closer to the release date
[04:16] <Cpudan80> We've got a long way to go before that happens ;-)
[04:16] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: I'll post in that topic you pointed me to.
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> like 10 years
[04:16] <harpreet> MindVirus: after Z , alphabet is finished :D
[04:16] <[MindVirus]> Well, once we get to AA, we'd be limited to very few opportunities.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> Aardvark, aardwolf.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> I think that's it.
[04:17] <wolter> has anybody used evolution 2.26 yet?
[04:17] <Stupendoussteve> [MindVirus]: Drives go to /dev/hdaa after hdz
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> OK.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> It's a silly naming scheme.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> I believe it should be more like GRUB's naming scheme.
[04:17] <[MindVirus]> hd0,0 for example.
[04:18] <Anon> [MindVirus]: I suspect that there would be no need to make new versions after that :P
[04:18] <[MindVirus]> Anon, :)
[04:18] <pumpkinseed> how would I go about installing the 180.44 nvidia driver (binary) from the NVIDIA website?
[04:19] <^paradox^> is there someone here now who can help me get my palm z22 synched?
[04:19] <geremy> does anybody here know how to get around octave not having matlab's getframe() function? or know where might be a more appropriate place to ask?
[04:19] <Anon> It seems all of the people with my problem have nvidia cards.
[04:19] <always> pumpkinseed, nvidia driver in site or nvidia modules for ubuntu, is best you compile kernel
[04:20] <akgraner> wolter: I set it up just to see how it worked...but that's about it...
[04:20] <^paradox^> had to leave for an hour
[04:20] <always> pumpkinseed, kernel generic sux
[04:20] <taz> i have prombles with flash...before it was work  great 8.10 so i did upgrade to 9.04  now there no work with flash .. can anyone can help me for terminal to fix with flash ....please
[04:20] <always> taz, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:20] <taz> i did
[04:20] <wolter> akgraner, you still have it? I would like to know if evolution automatically adds contacts when you send an email to them
[04:20] <noodlesgc> !jaunty | taz
[04:20] <taz> nothing happend
[04:21] <FAJ> Ok, so I uninstalled linux-ubuntu-restricted-modules-`uname -r` and now no internet!  any help please!
[04:21] <^paradox^> but still need help with that
[04:21] <pumpkinseed> So again... how would I go about installing the 180.44 nvidia driver (binary) from the NVIDIA website?
[04:21] <akgraner> wolter: yes I still have it set up
[04:24] <musikgoat|main> pumpkinseed: scunizi suggested these instructions: http://pastebin.com/m65ddab29
[04:24] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: How do I determine which intel card I have?
[04:25] <mrsteveman1> FAJ: probably shouldn't have done that :)
[04:25] <pumpkinseed> musikgoat|main: thanks
[04:27] <Anon> Stupendoussteve: Are you there?
[04:27] <monkeyb> I'm having a problem with apache not starting on boot, but it is starting when i run sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start, this is the error, Any ideas on how this can happen?
[04:28] <monkeyb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142506/
[04:28] <zek> I just want to thank all of you for being helpful whenever i have troubles with ubuntu.  I think that the community is part of what makes open source great.  if more people knew about this source of help i think more people would use linux
[04:29] <realsifo> halo.why my video in totem become blue color?
[04:29] <realsifo> its blury
[04:30] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: Had a small problem here, you still figuring out graphics?
[04:30] <^paradox^> trying to sync palm z22 but keep getting error messages. can anyone assist?
[04:31] <monkeyb> the script is being run as root on startup, and there dont appear to be any programs bound to the port at that point in time, http://paste.ubuntu.com/142508/
[04:31] <janggo> irc
[04:31] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Yes.
[04:31] <janggo> hi
[04:31] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I don't believe I have the right drivers.
[04:32] <realsifo> can you help me?
[04:32] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: What have you figured out and what's the name of this game?
[04:32] <^paradox^> come on i gotta have my palm for errand running and other duties a hand please?
[04:32] <Rabbitbunny> realsifo: check out the restricted codecs, or try another video
[04:33] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: glxgears returns Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:33] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[04:33] <volo1> Anyone know how to clear out old residue information out of ~/.thumbnails and ~/.nautilus/saved-session-* files without breaking my Gnome profile?
[04:33] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I have an intel card.
[04:33] <realsifo> yup.how to normalize it?
[04:34] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: got it's lspci line?
[04:34] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142510/
[04:35] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I also did sudo dpkq-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <coreyman> How can I allow a user to be able to write to samba from windows.
[04:35] <coreyman> a samba share
[04:36] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Xorg.conf is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/142514/
[04:36] <volo1> Yo Hey Yall. How do I empty out ~/.thumbnails and ~/.nautilus/saved-session-* --> the "right way"
[04:37] <Anon> volo1: Can't you just empty them?
[04:37] <He-man> Hello again, fine people:)
[04:37] <Omni> Uhm, How would someone go about reconfiguring network-manager (I broke it with the arping package) but now that i've reinstalled it it says "device is unmanaged" for my interfaces
[04:38] <He-man> Can somebody tell me please, again, how to move forward or backwards to find files in terminal.  I am trying to navigate to the destination source, and I don't know how to go to the new file.
[04:38] <FAJALOU> Hi I am really having an interesting issue with my computer.  What is happening is that it went through a kernel update, and asked to restart, so I restarted, and I didn't have internet.  I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it said that it wasn't possible, FATAL:  Module ndiswrapper not found.  So I went to another kernel, and installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic and linux-ubuntu-modul
[04:38] <Anon> volo1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=633524
[04:39] <^paradox^> im trying to synch my palm z22 never done this and getting error messages
[04:39] <^paradox^> a hand please anyone?
[04:39] <Nithrin> How do I get Adobe Shockwave player for Ubuntu or get it to work with Ubuntu? I need to play that kind of stuff
[04:40] <volo1> Anon: thanks
[04:40] <realsifo> thanks
[04:41] <Omni> He-man: Are you trying to find a file, or just enter the directory ?
[04:41] <^paradox^> anyone a hand please?
[04:42] <He-man> Omni:  Thanks mate.  I have the file on my desktop, but when I sudo apt-get it, it says it can't find it, so I thought I may need to specify how to get there.  I dont know the commands to move into a certain file.  I need to enter the directory
[04:42] <DasEi> !shockwave | Nithrin
[04:43] <LosFrijoles1> i just tried to switch monitors on my acer aspire one with netbook remix installed so that it would use my 19" as the only monitor. i gave up, but now i cant get the netbook launcher to go back into normal opengl mode. does anyone know how to roll back display settings?
[04:43] <FAJALOU> Hi I am really having an interesting issue with my computer.  What is happening is that it went through a kernel update, and asked to restart, so I restarted, and I didn't have internet.  I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it said that it wasn't possible, FATAL:  Module ndiswrapper not found.  So I went to another kernel, and installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic and linux-ubuntu-modul
[04:43] <^paradox^> im a personal assistant and the palm is one of my tools. please some assistance with this matter?
[04:44] <Rabbitbunny> ^paradox^: What are the error messages?
[04:44] <Omni> He-man: cd is the command to change directorys for example when you open a terminal you are in your home directory AKA ~ So from there you would type cd Desktop/nameoffolder
[04:44] <Omni> also He-man are you trying to install a .deb or something from source?
[04:44] <He-man> Omni:  Thanks mate.  Ill give it a go.
[04:44] <^paradox^> well when i have Type Serial ticked it gives me:
[04:44] <mjs7231> Hey Ubuntu'ers
[04:44] <Omni> Hey
[04:45] <mjs7231> Quick question about upgrading.. :-:
[04:45] <^paradox^> Read/Write permissions failed
[04:45] <Omni> Upgrading to? mjs7231
[04:45] <mjs7231> if I install 9.04 early.
[04:45] <Rabbitbunny> ^paradox^: what program are you using?
[04:45] <mjs7231> and there are small changes, will the upgrade tool pull them down?
[04:45] <^paradox^> gnome-pilot
[04:45] <mjs7231> or will I need to reinstall?
[04:45] <Omni> mjs7231: it'll be all automatic just like your current version
[04:45] <mjs7231> Omni, Thanks..
[04:46] <Omni> 9.04 uses new repos for their code
[04:46] <^paradox^> its connected to my pc via usb cable
[04:47] <^paradox^> i tick usb but dont know what else to input
[04:47] <He-man_> Omni:  It tells me that no such file or directory exists mate.  What am I doing wrong.
[04:47] <^paradox^> timeout is 2
[04:47] <^paradox^> device /dev/pilot
[04:48] <^paradox^> speed is 57600
[04:48] <mjs7231> Im going to be doing a fresh install to switch from 32bit to 64bit.
[04:48] <mjs7231> I need to do that for the OS to see my 4GB ram
[04:48] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I can't figure out how to sign the google repository for picasa... I'm following the instructions here: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html  but it's not working. I get the following error: gpg: no writable keyring found: eof      gpg: error reading `-': general error     gpg: import from `-' failed: general error
[04:48] <Omni> oOarthurOo: what stage are you at?
[04:48] <FiteMashine> hello!
[04:48] <FloodBot2> ^paradox^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <Rabbitbunny> ^paradox^: type 'mount -l' into a terminl, pastebin what that says
[04:48] <ASrock> what terminal command should i use to mount a ntfs drive?
[04:48] <FAJALOU> Hi I am really having an interesting issue with my computer.  What is happening is that it went through a kernel update, and asked to restart, so I restarted, and I didn't have internet.  I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it said that it wasn't possible, FATAL:  Module ndiswrapper not found.  So I went to another kernel, and installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic and linux-ubuntu-modul
[04:48] <Omni> He-man_: try run the command "ls" it'll give a list of the files in the directory
[04:48] <^paradox^> ok hangon
[04:48] <Omni> and then use that to navigate
[04:48] <oOarthurOo> Omni I've added the repository, updated and been warned that no GPG key was found for it, then ran this command: sudo wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -
[04:49] <He-man_> Omni:  Thanks mate, will do.
[04:49] <oOarthurOo> Omni if I drop the second part, after | then it works ok. Or appears to. A strange file shows up in the terminal.
[04:50] <ryanCH> i just installed ubuntu and i installed KDE 4+, how do i find out what WM is being used?
[04:50] <uberNoob> quick question: i am user uberNoober. I need to change the file permissions and ownership to rw only for me and not be executable
[04:50] <Omni> oOarthurOo: Yeah the strange file will be the key that it is going to sign it with
[04:50] <^paradox^> http://rafb.net/p/rbdYjH17.html there ya go
[04:50] <Anon> Hello all.
[04:50] <epaphus> hey guys, what sftp app does ubuntu come with?
[04:50] <Anon> Why does xchat keep closing?
[04:50] <Rabbitbunny> uberNoob: chown and chmod will do that.
[04:51] <mjs7231> epaphus, I believe it's built in
[04:51] <mikechelen> !compiz
[04:51] <uberNoob> Rabbitbunny: Chown that's the one I was lookign for thanks
[04:51] <DasEi> epaphus:sftp and few others; apt-cache search (s)ftp
[04:51] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: did that lspci output help you?
[04:51] <Omni> oOarthurOo: gimmie a sec i'll work it out
[04:52] <He-man_> Omni:  Yeah, it still isnt finding it.  It says it can't find the package, yet the package is there on my desktop, and I am now in the desktop on my Terminal.
[04:52] <Omni> oOarthurOo: add sudo infront of apt-key so | sudo apt-key ...etc
[04:53] <Rabbitbunny> ^paradox^: look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PalmDeviceSetup
[04:53] <^paradox^> k
[04:54] <^paradox^> ty ill look at it after supper but ill hang here til afterwards
[04:54] <^paradox^> back soon
[04:55] <He-man_> Omni:  When I sudo without apt-get, it says this "install: missing destination file operand after 'lexmark-inkjet etc'
[04:58] <uberNoob> Rabbitbunny: and yes I do wish to have rw only
[04:58] <^paradox^> what the hell was that?
[04:58] <DasEi> anon: server issue of irc, netsplit
[04:59] <mjs7231> weirdness
[04:59] <Anon> DasEi: Curious.
[04:59] <Anon> !netsplit
[04:59] <mjs7231> the gods went, then returned
[04:59] <^paradox^> ridiculous is more like it
[04:59] <FiteMashine> yeah, I don't know it might just be some kind of network weirdness.  Right now I don't have it connected to the router, I've just been trying to connect it to the cable modem.  When I did connect it to the router it connected to the LAN but still wasn't getting Internet
[04:59] <Rabbitbunny> uberNoob: that's 550, so 'sudo chown user:group file' then 'chmod 550 file' should do you.
[04:59] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: I'm really stating to doubt you could have a worse video card.
[04:59] <mjs7231> How fraking long does it take to end Battlestar.. get on with it already!!
[05:00] <^paradox^> hope that dont happen again
[05:00] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: You mean if I could have a worse one?
[05:00] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: err, starting
[05:00] <^paradox^> screen was just flooded with a thousand ppl exiting at once
[05:01] <Flannel> !netsplit
[05:01] <Flannel> Hmmm, ubottus still gone.
[05:01] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Well, my sister bought it for school, so I would not be surprised if it isn't possible to get a worse card.
[05:01] <uberNoob> Rabbitbunny: yeah, it's really strange it's not changing the file permissions at all. I have tried pretty much everything, combo i can think of
[05:01] <Flannel> Alright, well, it's a netsplit, when two IRC servers disconnect.  There'll be a little bit of join/part noise for a bit until it settles down.
[05:01] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: I usually get 30 fps in nexuiz.
[05:02] <^paradox^> ah so thats it
[05:02] <mjs7231> I am an important person; I have many leather bound books.
[05:02] <^paradox^> it really was the GODS ;-)
[05:02] <millertimek1a2m3> hey you guys i'm having trouble with rhythmbox!
[05:02] <millertimek1a2m3> the little bar that shows how far into the song the player is isn't moving at all...
[05:02] <mjs7231> millertimek1a2m3, You might have better luck in their IRC channel if one exists.
[05:03] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know how to fix it-
[05:03] <Flannel> mjs7231: Please take off topic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[05:03] <millertimek1a2m3> wait there's an irc for rhythmbox?
[05:03] <uberNoob> Rabbitbunny: thanks for your help. i have to see what the hell is wrong with this
[05:03] <DasEi> millertimek1a2m3: try to reinstall it ?
[05:03] <keith> Does anyone know how to determine a filesystems block size from the file system itself? Is this information stored in the superblock?
[05:03] <millertimek1a2m3> dasei: i did...
[05:04] <FAJALOU> Hi I am really having an interesting issue with my computer.  What is happening is that it went through a kernel update, and asked to restart, so I restarted, and I didn't have internet.  I tried to modprobe ndiswrapper, but it said that it wasn't possible, FATAL:  Module ndiswrapper not found.  So I went to another kernel, and installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic and linux-ubuntu-modul
[05:04] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Did you try reinstalling ndiswrapper?
[05:04] <Anon> millertimek1a2m3: #rhythmbox on irc.gnome.org
[05:05] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: yup, no avail.
[05:05] <DasEi> millertimek1a2m3: no idea then, I use amarok, maybe search synaptic for missing lib ?
[05:05] <millertimek1a2m3> Anon! thanx!
[05:05] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:05] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  8.04.2
[05:05] <Anon> millertimek1a2m3: :)
[05:05] <voxel> I'm messing around with crontab and was wondering if there is anyway to 'automatically' add a cron command to the crontab? Whenever I use crontab -e not only does it insist on using an editor (like nano) but it seems to open a randomly named file from /tmp/crontab.<random chars>/crontab
[05:05] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: it has something to do with the new kernel updates; because i am using ndiswrapper right now just fine.
[05:05] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Do you still have the firmware file for ndiswrapper?
[05:05] <millertimek1a2m3> DasEi well i liked amarok, but i wanted any alternative player to have at least all the same funcitons as rhythmbox
[05:05] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: does glxgears work?
[05:06] <Anon> No.
[05:06] <illmortal> Anyone having an issue viewing kde-look.org or gnome-look.org? I was just able to browse both sites about an hour ago... and now I can't o.O;
[05:06] <illmortal> If I ping... it times out.
[05:06] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: it has something to do with the new kernel updates; because i am using ndiswrapper right now just fine.
[05:06] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:06] <Anon> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:06] <Anon> "
[05:06] <Alex_21> Hi, How can I strip my install down to the minimum?
[05:06] <DasEi> !mp3 | millertimek1a2m3:
[05:06] <Alex_21> Is there a quick way to go from full desktop to nothing
[05:06] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: same computer; older kernel, working fine.
[05:06] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: What kernel version are you running right now... that it works?
[05:06] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: you have it commented out in your xorg
[05:06] <voxel> illmortal, I can view both just fine
[05:06] <FAJALOU> 2.6.24-23-generica
[05:06] <ndshacker> geez >.<
[05:06] <FAJALOU> *generic
[05:06] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: what do I uncomment?
[05:07] <Alex_21> ?
[05:07] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: 2.6.24-23-generic.                          *-24-generic is what is messing up.
[05:07] <Alex_21> Please
[05:07] <illmortal> ugh.. ok voxel
[05:07] <Rabbitbunny> Anon: try uncommenting the lin "load 'dri'"
[05:07] <Anon> Alex_21: Do you need a gui?
[05:07] <Alex_21> No
[05:07] <Alex_21> I plan to install Fluxbox
[05:07] <RedWar> Hi, I need to find a good player for hdtv that is comparable to windows medua player, that can upcode a digital sd cd into an HD 1080i. Anyone have suggestions?
[05:07] <Alex_21> Reinstalling isn't an issue
[05:07] <Anon> Then you need a gui.
[05:07] <DasEi> Alex_21: easiest way to set up a minimal system from beginning, else genreate a packetlist and sort out
[05:07] <Alex_21> I mean an option.
[05:07] <millertimek1a2m3> DasEi: do you know how to get it to respond to my shortcut keys? if it can do that i will just use it
[05:08] <DasEi> ! minimal | Alex_21
[05:08] <millertimek1a2m3> but i think it would be much more professional to fix it
[05:08] <Anon> Alex_21: To remove your gui and get stuck with a command line prompt, do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <Anon> but THAT IS DANGEROUS
[05:08] <Rabbitbunny> i would autoremove
[05:08] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: any thoughts?
[05:08] <Alex_21> I did that and there is still packages left
[05:08] <millertimek1a2m3> Anon: how do i get to irc.gnome.net
[05:08] <monkeyb> Im having a problem with apache starting before the network interfaces have been bought up..
[05:08] <Anon> Alex_21: apt-get autoremove
[05:08] <millertimek1a2m3> or irc.gimp.net
[05:08] <ndshacker> sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:09] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: I hate to be of little help, but I just found this with some searching: http://slackblogs.blogspot.com/2008/03/ndiswrapper-might-be-broken-on-2624.html
[05:09] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  i am running ndiswrapper on another machine with *-24-generic and it's working...
[05:09] <Rabbitbunny> Alex_21: autoremove gets rid of unused dependancies
[05:09] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Oh, so it's just your machine, then?
[05:09] <monkeyb> however rc2.d lists NetworkManager before apache2, so im stumped why this is so
[05:10] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  well i dunno.... i will uname -r to be safe on the other machine... but i think it has to do with linux-ubuntu-modules ...
[05:10] <DasEi>  Alex_21: the infobot is offline ; use the minimal-netinstall cd, don't choose any soft, so you'll get to a root prompt, then carefully select after your needs
[05:10] <Rabbitbunny> !minimal
[05:11] <DasEi> !ubottu in bermuda
[05:11] <Rabbitbunny> hmm, first time for everything
[05:11] <Sal--> anyone experience mod_rewrite not working with apache with a fresh stock install?
[05:11] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  yah my other maching is running *-24-generic with ndiswrapper fine...
[05:12] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: What version of ndiswrapper is on that machine?
[05:12] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: 1.52
[05:12] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: utils version 1.9
[05:12] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: And on yours?
[05:13] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: same.
[05:13] <Anon> millertimek1a2m3: go http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels and select a channel
[05:13] <Anon> from there do /join #rhythmbox
[05:13] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Type "dmesg | grep ndis", or "dmesg | grep microcode", and see what you get.
[05:13] <Anon> Restarting X.
[05:13] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Just keep in mind not to paste it here.
[05:14] <Anon> !pastebin | FAJALOU
[05:14] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  on which machine?
[05:14] <Anon> !pasteb| FAJALOU
[05:14] <Anon> !paste | FAJALOU
[05:14] <FAJALOU> i know anon
[05:14] <Anon> Is ubuntubot up?
[05:14] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: On yours.
[05:14] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: The one that doesn't work, I should say.
[05:15] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: right now i am using an old kernel; i am on the machine with the 'bad' kernel..
[05:15] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: You know what, actually that won't work unless you're in the kernel that doesn't work
[05:15] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Yea, I realized that.
[05:15] <Alex_21> I still have config files all over my system
[05:15] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: lol
[05:15] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  all good :)
[05:15] <zer0c00l> sureshvraghav, hii this is saga welcome to ubuntu
[05:15] <Anon> Hello all.
[05:15] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: lol
[05:15] <Anon> glxgears doesn't work after uncommenting.
[05:15] <pumpkinseed> I want to thank everyone here for helping me with my NVIDIA display problem! I got it fixed due to your help. The NVIDIAManual link showed me how to difinitively uninstall my previous drivers. After I did that, I made sure my xorg.conf file was reverted to 'vesa'. I restarted and then proceeded to install the 180.11 drivers from Synaptec. After Restarting again everything was working! Thanks!!!!!!
[05:15] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: I just want to check to see if you're getting errors back from the kernel about the microcode or anything.
[05:16] <Alex_21> They are taking up space. How can I clean them out to get what I'd nomally have in a net install
[05:16] <DasEi> nice, pumpkinseed
[05:16] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  do you think that if i install linux-ubuntu-restricted-modules for the newest 'bad' kernel, it will bork me if i go to the new kernel?
[05:16] <cellofellow> how do I tell which version of ATA my computer's IDE controller supports?
[05:16] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Also, if you "ndiswrapper -i <sys_file>" while using the new kernel, if maybe it will give you an error.
[05:16] <pumpkinseed> :)
[05:16] <pumpkinseed> THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!!!
[05:16] <Alex_21> I need the help. ?
[05:16] <Alex_21> Please
[05:17] <Anon> Alex_21: You can do apt-get remove gnome-*
[05:17] <Anon> DANGER
[05:17] <Alex_21> I completely want to clean everything off this box
[05:17] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  b/c the only thing that is happening right now is that the inet isn't working, but last time, when I installed linux-ubuntu.... it messed with my screen res/nvidia.
[05:17] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Well, it shouldn't mess anything up, because if you boot an older kernel that's still installed, then it should already have the modules for that version on your system.
[05:17] <Anon> Alex_21: And just leave a ubuntu install?
[05:17] <DasEi>  Alex_21: the infobot is offline ; use the minimal-netinstall cd, don't choose any soft, so you'll get to a root prompt, then carefully select after your needs
[05:17] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117: should i try that?
[05:18] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: If you really want to use your new kernel... ;)
[05:18] <falkman> window 1
[05:18] <Anon> Rabbitbunny: Any ideas?
[05:18] <Alex_21> I can't reinstall
[05:19] <werdna> hey so if I have a SATA drive and I want to put it in a computer without a SATA motherboard, should I buy an external enclosure, a RAID controller, a bridge chip, or something else?
[05:19] <Alex_21> Ok, I just want a cli system
[05:19] <thimothy8> Hey guys, anyone can go here http://www.johnsrevenge.com/?id=2d34e5e07110724e906a5366a78ca33d this is not virus or anything =) kind of interesting. ;)
[05:19] <Anon> Alex_21: Did you do apt-get purge gnome-*
[05:19] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: If I remember correctly, 8.10 was pretty good with installing things like ndiswrapper automatically for you.
[05:19] <WatchBot> thimothy8: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.
[05:19] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  i am on 8.04 ;)  I didn't like 8.10
[05:19] <thimothy8> It is work safe :->
[05:19] <Alex_21> Get a Sata PCI card
[05:19] <Alex_21> I think
[05:20] <Anon> Screw you, thimothy8
[05:20] <FAJALOU> E: Package linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-24-generic has no installation candidate
[05:20] <DasEi>  Alex_21: generate a paketlist, do it handy, if you're mean on it or uninstall ubuntu-desktop, for a quick n easy solution
[05:20] <Alex_21> Ok
[05:20] <Alex_21> Trying that
[05:20] <voxel> does anyone know where the user crontab is stored? I've added an entry using crontab -e, but I don't see any sign of a user crontab in /etc/crontab, /etc/cron.d
[05:21] <Anon> thimothy8: I hope you are attacked by rabid locusts.
[05:21] <DasEi>  Alex_21: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <Anon> DasEi: Already done.
[05:21] <Anon> DasEi: He's purging gnome now.
[05:21] <DasEi> XD
[05:21] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Hmm... can you try booting into your new kernel, and doing "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"?  That should automatically install the version for your kernel.
[05:21] <Anon> :)
[05:22] <Alex_21> Is that all I need to do?
[05:22] <Anon> Well, that does a lot.
[05:22] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  that is alreayd installed.
[05:22] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Of course, you'll need to plug in directly via Ethernet, since you don't have your wireless available.
[05:22] <Anon> You can start systematically removing any applications in the applications menu.
[05:22] <DasEi> Alex_21: have a second machine for irc ?
[05:22] <FAJALOU> could it be because linux-ubuntu.... is proposedd....
[05:22] <FAJALOU> ?
[05:22] <Anon> Anyone know if apt-get purge * would be safe?
[05:22] <[MindVirus]> Where can I download the Intrepid wallpaper?
[05:22] <Alex_21> Yes, I have a Mac for IRC
[05:23] <Anon> Alex_21: It might be better to wipe your partition and just reinstall ubuntu.
[05:23] <Anon> Probably faster.
[05:23] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Well, if you have the "proposed" repository enabled, you should still be able to install it.
[05:23] <cpp52767> APRIL FUCKING FOOLS!
[05:23] <unr3a1> hey all
[05:23] <Anon> Heh, screwed.
[05:23] <grinsys> 2nd night in a row...gez
[05:23] <Alex_21> The problem here is that the Disk has two other OSs partitions on it
[05:23] <FAJALOU> JoeLinux117:  i just reienabled the proposed.
[05:23] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Also, please begin comments to me with my name, that way this thing notifies me that I have a message.
[05:24] <[MindVirus]> Where can I download the Intrepid wallpaper?
[05:24] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: Ok cool.  Try installing it again.
[05:24] <Anon> Alex_21: Try wiping the unix partition from another partition, maybe?
[05:24] <Anon> [MindVirus]: try google.
[05:24] <Alex_21> And I can't see so I'm doing it all without being able to use the partitioner on the CD
[05:24] <[MindVirus]> Anon, I did!
[05:24] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: ok done, now to reboot into new kernel.... one sec.
[05:24] <unr3a1> is this the same room for ubuntu server support?
[05:24] <DasEi> Alex_21:so backup config files, mbr and use alternate installer
[05:24] <cellofellow> Will an Intel 82371AB/EB/MB support a 1TB drive, or is it limited to 130GB?
[05:24] <Anon> Alex_21: What do you mean can't see?
[05:24] <JoeLinux117> FAJALOU: k
[05:25] <Alex_21> I'm blind
[05:25] <Alex_21> I used the Alternate CD, but I couldn't find the command-line option
[05:25] <vegombrei> i have a question .. i have my girlfriend messing up everything coz shes not so computer savy ... if i log out of my account it stops all my downloads .. how do i log out let her have her own account .. and all my downloads etc would run fine
[05:25] <Alex_21> It was on PPC
[05:25] <Anon> [MindVirus]: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27048731@N03/sets/72157608532742966/
[05:25] <DasEi> cellofellow: old chipset, google intel for that, also depends on bios, wrong place here, #hardware
[05:25] <cellofellow> ok
[05:25] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  starting up new kernel *crosses fingers..*
[05:26] <[MindVirus]> Anon, ... None of those have the default theme.
[05:26] <Anon> Are you looking for theme or wallpaper?
[05:26] <[MindVirus]> Wallpaper.
[05:26] <unr3a1> ?
[05:26] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Ok, let's hope for something.  We can also check "dmesg" to see if it spit out anything of interest.
[05:26] <[MindVirus]> Sorry.
[05:26] <DasEi> vegombrei: add a user account for her, own /home and permissions
[05:27] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: ok what it is doing is it's now going into low res. mode.. HAS to have to do with that linux-ubuntu....
[05:27] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Also, you can type "locate ndiswrapper.ko", and see if that module is in the directory for your new kernel.
[05:27] <vigo> vegombrei: Create a new user account, you log in as 1, or whatever, she logs in as (her name) .
[05:28] <amarendra> [MindVirus]: you can go to http://www.gnome-look.org/
[05:28] <[MindVirus]> I tried.
[05:28] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Are you good on the command-line?  I would say don't even bother with the graphics for right now, that way you can just focus on getting ndiswrapper working first.
[05:28] <[MindVirus]> I can't find it.
[05:28] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  ok internet is working GREAT.  now just get resolution off of 800x600...
[05:28] <vigo> vegombrei: Ubuntu has separate accounts , just make hers a little limited.
[05:28] <Anon> [MindVirus]: Can't find it either. Wait till intrepid? :P
[05:28] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Ok nevermind... On to stage 2.
[05:28] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: lol
[05:29] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  righto lol
[05:29] <Anon> [MindVirus]: What are you running now?
[05:29] <[MindVirus]> Huh?
[05:29] <[MindVirus]> Jaunty.
[05:29] <[MindVirus]> I don't like the wallpaper that is bundled.
[05:29] <amarendra> [MindVirus]: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27048731@N03/sets/72157608532742966/
[05:29] <[MindVirus]> ...
[05:29] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: If you go to System --> Administration --> NVIDIA XServer Settings, does it give you an error?
[05:30] <amarendra> oh you got it before..
[05:30] <[MindVirus]> That isn't the default wallpaper.
[05:30] <Anon> I suppose no more help for me will be had today. See you all tomorrow.
[05:30] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  when i have linux-ubuntu... hehe failsafe termina ftw
[05:30] <Anon> Bye all.
[05:30] <amarendra> [MindVirus]: you want default??? then you got it with distro itself..
[05:30] <bsdunix> does anyone here know what it would take for ubuntu to be in a box on every shelf, powered up and ready to beat microsoft at it's own game?
[05:30] <DasEi> !resolution | FAJ
[05:30] <syockit> amarendra: jaunty's got new wallies, i think
[05:30] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  yah it says run 'nvidia x-config' as roopt
[05:30] <[MindVirus]> amarendra, I'm not on Intrepid!
[05:30] <[MindVirus]> I'm on Jaunty.
[05:31] <FAJ> DasEi:  mine is special ;)
[05:31] <keith> What would you call a string that looks like this: "\020\024\000\000\000P\" ?
[05:31] <bsdunix> ibm/sun/openoffice/java desktop - ubuntu merger?
[05:31] <Flannel> bsdunix: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[05:31] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: "lsmod | grep nv"... what does that give you?
[05:31] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  ran sudo nvidia-xconfig...
[05:32] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: nothing.
[05:32] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  for your command
[05:32] <vigo> bsdunix: That is kinda offtopic, /join #ubuntu-offtopic, this #channel is for support and stuff.
[05:32] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  but nvidia-settings still gives me that error
[05:32] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Go to System --> Administration --> Hardware Drivers
[05:33] <Alex_21> Ok Thanks for your help
[05:33] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: That should give you the option of downloading and installing the recommended nvidia driver for your kernel.
[05:33] <Alex_21> Good night
[05:33] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  what is that in failsafe terminal?
[05:33] <[MindVirus]> Any suggestions?
[05:33] <[MindVirus]> Can someone quickly host the default Ibex cave painting wallpaper?
[05:33] <[MindVirus]> I would really appreciate it.
[05:34] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Oh yea, sorry!  Umm, you would need a display running in order to see that...
[05:34] <unr3a1> hey all, i am trying to install ubuntu server, and when trying to erase the data on the swap partition, I get this error:  "An error occurred trying to erase the data on SCSI1 (0,0,0, partition #1 (sda).  The data has not been erased."
[05:34] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Do you know the model of your nVidia card?
[05:34] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  i am in failsafe terminal; so display is open...
[05:34] <unr3a1> what can I do to format this partition?
[05:34] <DasEi> unr3a1: was swap in use ?
[05:35] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: "sudo jockey-gtk"
[05:35] <unr3a1> DasEi, no.  I am trying to install ubuntu fresh.
[05:35] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  nothing available...
[05:35] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  what if i try nvidia-glx-new?
[05:35] <[MindVirus]> Anyone?
[05:35] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  it's a 6800....?
[05:35] <unr3a1> DasEi, this computer has never had linux on it.  it had windows xp
[05:36] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I don't know your nVidia card model...
[05:36] <TheBlownFuse> ubuntu rocks
[05:36] <DasEi> unr3a1: so if mount doesn't show it, try to erase/reformat/unallocate it from live-cd first, sounds little strange
[05:36] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Oh ok..
[05:36] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  6200.
[05:36] <unr3a1> DasEi, this is an older machine.  the live cd will not boot on it.
[05:36] <unr3a1> DasEi, that is why I am trying to install Ubuntu server.
[05:37] <mupa_> anyybody know how to add custom resolutions to nvidia x server? trying to get 1366x768 but it jumps from 1280x720 to 1920x1080
[05:37] <Flannel> [MindVirus]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-wallpapers
[05:37] <vigo> [MindVirus: What is the issue or error?
[05:37] <DasEi> unr3a1: more specs of the machine ?
[05:37] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I'm trying to remember in 8.04... do you have a package called "nvidia-glx-180"?
[05:37] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Not installed, but available to install.
[05:37] <unr3a1> DasEi, Dell P3 1.0Ghz 384MB RAM 150GB HDD (1x30, 1x120)
[05:38] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  apt-cache search shows nothing..
[05:38] <DasEi> unr3a1: and you'll use a whole hd ?
[05:38] <unr3a1> DasEi, no.  I have data on the 120GB HDD.  I am trying to install Ubuntu server on the 30GB HDD
[05:39] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Right, I meant having it available to install.  I just want to make sure that's the package name.
[05:39] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/220952
[05:39] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  i think my prob
[05:39] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: "aptitude search nvidia-glx" and see if it's there.
[05:40] <DasEi> unr3a1: and you'll use a whole hd ?... so the whole 30 gb then, so yes; disconnect the 120 to prevent any trouble, set bios to boot from 30, use alternate installer, put on datastorage in fstab later
[05:40] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  nvidia-glx-new already installed.
[05:40] <vigo> DasEi: Good call. cheers
[05:41] <voxel> is there any way to open up nano and 'pipe' in some text? like $~nano <<somefilewithtextinit  ??
[05:41] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and in the "Device" section, see if the driver being used is "nvidia"... my guess is it's not.
[05:41] <Flannel> voxel: You want to "start" nano with some text sort of thing?
[05:42] <DasEi> voxel : why not use cp ?
[05:42] <Flannel> voxel: or, jsut looking to browse it? or start a file? or what?
[05:42] <Rabbitbunny> voxel: echo "sometext" | nano ?
[05:42] <offby1> I see a "System Restart Required" icon in the top of my screen, which isn't particularly odd ... except that the kernel hasn't upgraded in a long time.  What might have put it there?
[05:42] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: driver "vesa"
[05:42] <oOarthurOo> Hi, I've turned off tooltips in gconf, but I still see some stuff like when I point at things in my workspace switcher... anyway to turn these off too?
[05:42] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  change to "nvidia" ?
[05:42] <voxel> well, I am looking to append a line to a user crontab from another program.... but the only way I can find to edit the user crontab is by using 'crontab -e'
[05:42] <nickrud> offby1, glibc possibly
[05:43] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: "sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and switch that driver name to "nvidia"... hopefully that will work.
[05:43] <oOarthurOo> It says "click to start dragging ..." and so on
[05:43] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  ok done, restart x?
[05:43] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Or "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", whatever you prefer...
[05:43] <offby1> nickrud: libc6 did indeed update recently.  But I thought its .dev knew how to restart those services which depended upon it
[05:43] <Flannel> voxel: Ah, yeah... there's a file for it, but its sort of hidden and easier to use crontab -e
[05:43] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: No, restart the whole machine.
[05:43] <offby1> s/.dev/.deb/
[05:43] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  ok rebooting
[05:44] <ryanCH> is this saying really true?, "you sacrafice, functionality for eye-candy" ?
[05:44] <nickrud> offby1, there's just too much that depends on it
[05:44] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  i have my old old xorg.conf backed up
[05:44] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Good.
[05:44] <offby1> nickrud: hm, well, OK.
[05:44] <unr3a1> DasEi, ok, I gotta set the BIOS to boot from the 30GB HDD.  I dont think I did that.  I will check now.
[05:44] <FAJ> so if worse to worse...
[05:44] <nickrud> offby1, I don't even want to get into some of the odd stuff that ubuntu asks for. Some drivers even, rather than having people do rmmod & modprobe
[05:44] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  lol i had to get into grub and change kernel, weird haha.
[05:45] <voxel> Flannel, really? because I've been looking online now for like over an hour and can't find any specific location for the user crontab... everytime I run 'crontab -e' it opens a file /tmp/crontab.<random chars>/crontab
[05:45] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Really?
[05:45] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  yah i had it booting up to old kernel ;)
[05:45] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  no luck with that change.
[05:45] <offby1> nickrud: I looked in /usr/share/doc/libc6, and nothing there was newer than January ... that puzzled me too
[05:45] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Oh ok... I thought you meant something else.
[05:45] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  so how can i get nvidia-settings to work...????
[05:45] <nickrud> voxel I'm not on ubuntu but its in /var/cache/cron or something similar
[05:45] <DasEi> unr3a1: that won't be the issue about swap... I just wanted to set possible missunderstandings out
[05:46] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: You have to have the nvidia module loaded first.
[05:46] <unr3a1> DasEi, ok.
[05:46] <voxel> the only other thing I could find was /var/spool/cron/crontabs.... but that is a (folder/inode) and won't open (plus it only has root permission)
[05:46] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Try reinstalling nvidia-glx-new.
[05:46] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  it keeps removing it... ok
[05:46] <DasEi> unr3a1: did you use the alternate installer ?
[05:46] <nickrud> offby1, /var/log/dpkg.log has the installation history. Again, I'm not on ubuntu so I can't tell you my little one liner that parses it. It's human readable though
[05:46] <unr3a1> DasEi, for clarification, in the BIOS, one HDD says, "IDE-HDD", the other says "ARMD-HDD".  whats the difference?
[05:47] <nickrud> voxel, that's the place
[05:47] <voxel> nickrud, the user crontab? Becuase i think I found it in /var/spool/crontab
[05:47] <offby1> nickrud: yeah, I looked at that.  Saw lots of info about what upgraded, but nothing about "I'm gonna reboot now" or anything like that :)
[05:47] <nickrud> voxel, sudo -i so you have access to the dir
[05:47] <unr3a1> DasEi, I am using the Ubuntu server disc.  it loads into the text based installer by default
[05:47] <Flannel> voxel: That's a temp file, after you close, it copies it, etc.  Sort of like visudo and stuff.  It is /var/spool/crontab/crontabs/user
[05:48] <nickrud> offby1, I haven't found the flag for that either
[05:48] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  after that reinstallll>...?
[05:48] <offby1> nickrud: hmm, I do see "trigproc libc6 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9"
[05:48] <offby1> that's gotta be significant.
[05:48] <unr3a1> DasEi, also, I am trying to setup the swap from the first sector to whatever sector equals 1GB.. should I tell the installer to skip the first few sectors?
[05:48] <offby1> odd how old the version number appears though
[05:48] <DasEi> unr3a1: eeerm, armd-hdd I don't know, you should get the discs by their size, and that machine will have ide-drives; ;; not right, the alternate isn't live-able, while ther server/desktp's are
[05:49] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Once it's reinstalled, you'll have to reboot the machine... it should have modified xorg.conf for you.
[05:49] <dolen> exit
[05:49] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  we wil se
[05:49] <FAJ> e
[05:49] <nickrud> offby1, look at the changelog for actual dates I'd guess
[05:49] <voxel> nickrud, ah yes... running nautilus as sudo I can access /var/spool/cron/crontabs/myuser
[05:50] <offby1> yeah, they're all pretty old.
[05:50] <unr3a1> DasEi, my BIOS does not recognize the HDD sizes.   then it is the alternate server install disc, because there is no live option on this disc
[05:50] <DasEi> unr3a1: you can, after disconnecting the 120, use the live to erase whole 30 gb, then use guided partioning, everything shall be done for you
[05:50] <voxel> Flannel, and the tempfile gets copied to /var/spool/cron/crontabs/user , right?
[05:50] <MrSunshine> is there any way to get hold of kernels for like 2 years back for ubuntu ? :) need to test if its the kernel or the computer that is broken :/
[05:50] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  nope
[05:50] <voxel> (at least that's what it looks like)
[05:50] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: *sigh*
[05:50] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  yah...
[05:51] <Excell> envyng?
[05:51] <JoeLinux117> Excell: Yea, that's what I was just about to say.
[05:51] <DasEi> unr3a1:k, so you got the alternate;;  bios > ide autodetection > > should show your drives
[05:52] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Try installing "sudo apt-get install envyng-core" (or whatever the "envyng" package is in 8.04).
[05:52] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  one sec; onto something on #nvidia
[05:52] <DasEi> unr3a1:simply disconnect the 120, choose guided installtion (whole disk),......... install
[05:52] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Ok, excellent.
[05:52] <unr3a1> DasEi, alright.  thanks
[05:52] <unr3a1> DasEi, I will try that
[05:54] <He-man_> Sorry people.  I had a meeting to attend, and I didnt get to see if there was an answer to my question.  I will re-fire it.
[05:54] <voxel> Flannel or nickrud , any ideas on how I could construct a command that does not require root access and will append a user-defined crontab command using 'crontab -e' ?
[05:55] <nickrud> voxel, nope.
[05:55] <xmedex> hello all
[05:56] <xmedex> how to have a file server
[05:56] <calamari> hi
[05:56] <Flannel> voxel: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/17896-can-we-edit-crontab-using-shell-script.html (last reply)
[05:56] <nickrud> voxel, maybe crontab -l ?
[05:56] <DasEi> xmedex: inter/intranet ?
[05:56] <xmedex> this server can auto save files from client pc
[05:56] <He-man_> I am trying to load a file to get my printer going.  The file I have downloaded is the correct file, but I dont know the correct commands to load it.  The file is lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip, and I am currently in desktop, which is where the file is.  It keeps telling me that I am missing some information after the name.  I have tried sudo apt-get install, and I have tried sudo install.  Am I missing a suffix?
[05:56] <xmedex> how??.
[05:56] <xmedex> intranet
[05:57] <unr3a1> DasEi, I am trying the guided install now
[05:57] <DasEi> xmex: might check out rsync
[05:57] <DasEi> !backup
[05:57] <calamari> so I upgraded to 8.10 (don't you hate the ones that start like that?  sorry :)  and when I get to kdm, my keyboard and mouse don't work.  However, ctl-alt-f1 works, and if I do an /etc/init.d/kdm restart they start working ... any ideas?
[05:58] <nickrud> calamari, switch to gdm for login?  /me runs quickly
[05:58] <CaptainMorgan> !GD
[05:58] <calamari> lol
[05:58] <R0b3rt_> how do i load itunes through wine?
[05:58] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: "file lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip"
[05:58] <calamari> also, my separate arrow keys no longer work
[05:58] <CaptainMorgan> can't find it in the repos... anyone know if the GD Image/Graphics Library is available for us ubuntu lovers?
[05:58] <xmedex> any idea???
[05:58] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Just want to make sure it's really the right type of file... there's a few extensions there...
[05:58] <voxel> Flannel, oooooh this looks promising, I will give this a try, thanks! (I wish I would've thought to search for 'edit cron script' earlier...)
[05:59] <TheBlownFuse> itunes? linux?
[05:59] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan,   php5-gd I think
[05:59] <CaptainMorgan> ah...
[05:59] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Thanks.  Do I just type that into the terminal, once I am in the correct place?  And yes, there are a lot of suffixes already, but yes, it is the correct name.
[05:59] <R0b3rt_> don't know if it will work, but if i load wine into linux i can run windows based programs, i just don't remember how to install them
[05:59] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Yes.  Once you are in the same directory as the file, type that and tell me what the output is.
[05:59] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, aptitude search php5- will be illuminating
[05:59] <CaptainMorgan> nickrud, nice! that's it.. .I wouldn't never have known- thanks!
[06:00] <DasEi> !itunes | R0b3rt_: , more a quest for ##winehq
[06:00] <nado> R0b3rt_, yes it works
[06:01] <voxel> R0b3rt_, check out http://appdb.winehq.com for a list of applications and how well they work under wine
[06:01] <unr3a1> DasEi, I disconnected the 120GB hdd, and now I get boot errors booting into the installer.
[06:01] <nickrud> itunes has started working under wine?
[06:01] <unr3a1> DasEi, like, ata1.00 error: { UNC }
[06:01] <HawkLion> I just installed Ubuntu on my desktop -but I don't think my ethernet card is being picked up, any thoughts?
[06:01] <DasEi> unr3a1:is it set as master ?
[06:02] <unr3a1> DasEi, yes it is.  the jumpers are as well
[06:02] <DasEi> unr3a1:did you set the bios accordingly ?
[06:02] <DasEi> did*
[06:02] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  The response is "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-`.i386.deb.sh.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract"
[06:03] <taz> How to reboot inside Ubuntu without restarting
[06:03] <unr3a1> DasEi, There was nothing to set in the BIOS.  It was already set
[06:03] <eqisow> Can anybody recommend and all-in-one type configuration panel, preferably not desktop dependant, to run through X over SSH?
[06:03] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Ok, do "unzip lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip"
[06:03] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Tell me what comes out.
[06:04] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Will do, thanks.
[06:04] <taz> using terminal for  How to reboot inside Ubuntu without restarting
[06:04] <DasEi> unr3a1:  in standard cmos-setup, which drive(s) shown ?
[06:04] <nado> taz, you're in terminal and want to get the graphical interface ?
[06:05] <taz> nado: what do u mean ??
[06:05] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  It says "Archive:  lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh.zip   inflating:  lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh
[06:05] <FAJ> JoeLinux117: so far no good....
[06:06] <unr3a1> DasEi, I dont have that type of option available.  if you mean what drive is shown when I go into IDE configuration, just the 30GB maxtor drive
[06:06] <nado> taz, i'm trying to get more details on your question, because the way you asked it doesn't make a lot of sense
[06:06] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Type "file lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh", just to make sure.  That seems odd to me.
[06:06] <unr3a1> DasEi, I am starting to think that the HDD is baaad
[06:06] <unr3a1> bad*
[06:06] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Did #nvidia ask you to install envyng?
[06:06] <DasEi> unr3a1:  sure drive is in order ? by the way, the machine should be able to run alive cd
[06:07] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Will do.  What the last command did was unzip it, so yeah, hopefully it runs it.lol
[06:07] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  no
[06:07] <nado> taz, what do you mean by "reboot inside ubuntu"
[06:07] <taz> nado... i try to said. with out reboot.. i dont have to wait for boot up... just temrinal wil do and fast way
[06:07] <miau1010> anyone here know shell scripting?
[06:07] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: If not, install it (it might be "envyng-gtk" or "envyng-core" or something in 8.04)
[06:07] <taz> nado: yes
[06:07] <unr3a1> DasEi, I do not have enough RAM to run a live CD.
[06:07] <conficker> hello world
[06:07] <Excell> lol
[06:07] <JoeLinux117> LOL
[06:07] <unr3a1> DasEi, also, my BIOS is only capable of booting CDs with an 8MB boot image file.
[06:07] <DasEi> unr3a1:  356 is more then enough
[06:08] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  The prompts says "lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh POSIX shell script text executable"
[06:08] <unr3a1> DasEi, this machine is really old.  Originally ran Windows Server 2000 with SQL Server 7.0
[06:08] <miau1010> who could help me with a shell script?
[06:08] <DasEi> unr3a1:  real strange: 8mb .. did you ever try it ?(live)
[06:09] <unr3a1> DasEi, I have tried to load a livecd.   it does not work.  I cant
[06:09] <unr3a1> DasEi, it wont load any version of Slackware later than 10.2
[06:09] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Well, if you trust the source, go ahead and type "sudo chmod +x lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh"
[06:09] <skate2_> what program can view .chm files in ubuntu?
[06:09] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Then type "sudo ./lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh"
[06:09] <DasEi> skate2_: chmviewer
[06:09] <unr3a1> DasEi, because the boot image file on the bootable discs are 24MB on slack 11 and later.
[06:09] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Thanks mate.  I will.  Much appreciated.  Hope it runs.  Okay, will do both.
[06:09] <ubuntu_> i am a SERIOUS NOOB to ubuntu and have a prob......
[06:09] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: As long as you got that script directly from Lexmark.
[06:10] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Yep, sure did.
[06:10] <unr3a1> DasEi, it was running Windows XP, but only as a hacked, stripped version.
[06:10] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Ok, then go ahead.
[06:10] <thom__> Aloow.. all, I pressed Alt+F1 and I brought to full text-mode. What combination-buttons I should use to exit from text mode beside restart..  Many thanks
[06:10] <unr3a1> DasEi, I tried to load regular XP Pro, and it would take 10 minutes to boot into the OS.
[06:10] <DasEi> unr3a1: real strange machine then, I got ubuntu running evn on PII/300
[06:11] <unr3a1> DasEi, yea, this machine is really old.  It also has motherboard issues, cause sometimes upon reboot, it will randomly tell me there is a keyboard error and the keyboard wont work.
[06:11] <DasEi> unr3a1: did you check the media for defects, the installer ?
[06:11] <unr3a1> DasEi, It was a development server for a software company.
[06:12] <skate2_> dasei apt-get doesnt see a program called 'chmviewer'
[06:12] <unr3a1> DasEi, yea, it passes the little test on the disc.
[06:12] <mib_47ge2a>  i tried basero can't burn a disc. then k3b burned a dvd with files larger than 2gb. the udf filesystem dvdr can be read by ubuntu but not on xp. help!
[06:13] <DasEi> skate2_: chmsee is in the repos
[06:13] <FAJ> AHA
[06:13] <skate2_> there's also gnochm
[06:13] <Excell> work faj?
[06:13] <thom__> Need Help : I pressed Alt+F1 and I brought to full text-mode. What combination-buttons I should use to exit from text mode beside restart..  Many thanks
[06:13] <FAJ> almost haha.
[06:13] <FAJ> uhmmm
[06:13] <unr3a1> DasEi, I will try reburning the disc.
[06:13] <nado> skate2_, apt-get install gnochm
[06:13] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Where are you at now?
[06:13] <Excell> FAj..now type...nvidia-settings
[06:13] <nado> skate2_, sorry : sudo apt-get install gnochm
[06:14] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  one sec don't wanna get over excited here.
[06:14] <mib_47ge2a> anyway to burn a udf dvd that can be read by windows?
[06:14] <FAJ> YES
[06:14] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: lol
[06:14] <DasEi> unr3a1: nope, if md5sum and media is in order, won't work then with remote help, seems like exotic hardware
[06:14] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Is that a happy "YES"?
[06:14] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  what if i uninstalled linux-ubuntu-modules (which i think to be the source of my problems, b/c with it uninstalled, nvidia will work fine but no internet) uninstall linux-restricted, install linux-ubuntu, reinstall linux-restricted?
[06:14] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  taht worked
[06:14] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Excellent!
[06:15] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Hey, if it's working, don't bother messing with those packages, haha.
[06:15] <DasEi> unr3a1: more likely can try to install it on anothr PIII, then re-asemble hard-disk
[06:15] <voxel> Flannel, that is definitely going to work, thanks so much for the help!
[06:15] <unr3a1> DasEi, like I said, I think its a bad HDD
[06:15] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  well lol joe i think my update-manager is bad, b/c it will not update the other ones.
[06:15] <unr3a1> DasEi, I pulled it out of a box it was sitting in for 7 months
[06:15] <Excell> FAJ: to set the card up...use...nvidia-settings
[06:15] <DasEi> unr3a1: so check on another box
[06:15] <FAJ> Excell:  it is set up :)
[06:16] <Excell> ok
[06:16] <ubuntu_> ..............
[06:16] <unr3a1> I have the other HDD with Windows XP on it that I will test it with.
[06:16] <DasEi> unr3a1: a bad drive won't prevent a live from boot into live
[06:16] <unr3a1> DasEi, its not a live CD
[06:17] <unr3a1> I am getting buffer I/O errors
[06:17] <DasEi> unr3a1:go it, but you also said pc didn't boot live
[06:17] <DasEi> got*
[06:17] <unr3a1> DasEi, yea, because it was taking an obnoxiously long time, and I got impatient
[06:17] <DasEi> unr3a1:MORE THEN 10 MIN ? ;-)
[06:18] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Thanks mate.  I have just written the steps down, so I will now try and see if the program loads.
[06:18] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Ok, excellent.
[06:18] <unr3a1> DasEi, lol... yea.  it was 25 minutes into the boot and it was still booting.  the progression bar was increasing, but it was just so slow
[06:19] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Are you going to do it now?
[06:19] <unr3a1> DasEi, could be a bad CDrom drive too
[06:19] <allaun> how do you find where a webcam is as far as /dev goes?
[06:19] <He-man_> JoeLinux117:  Yes, just going through the extraction now.
[06:19] <DasEi> unr3a1:could could.. seems like exotic hardware, then, or a 1-X cdrom ? lol
[06:20] <JoeLinux117> He-man_: Ok
[06:20] <DasEi> unr3a1:again a PIII that size with 356 is capable to run ubuntu
[06:20] <unr3a1> DasEi, I dont know what the speed of the CD Rom is
[06:21] <allaun> my problem is i have a capture card so video0 is the capture card
[06:21] <DasEi> unr3a1:age of the bios ?
[06:21] <wesso> i can see that getting help isnt going to come quick.......
[06:21] <unr3a1> DasEi, old.  again, it only boots CDs with 8MB boot image or less.
[06:22] <unr3a1> DasEi, this machine is probably 8 years old
[06:22] <unr3a1> DasEi, maybe older.
[06:22] <zivinbane> hey all, question, I just had to tediously back up my pidgin custom buddy list (for irc) to my laptop, is there a way to sync between computers? or move a file over between the pcs to keep all up to date? Im tired of remaking my accounts for irc serv's as well
[06:22] <thom__> OK solved guys.... It is not Alt+F1 but Ctrl+Alt+F1 then to back to the GUI, just press Ctrl+Alt+F7.. Thanks 4 hielmy for helping me..
[06:22] <DasEi> unr3a1:age of the bios ? a year ? (appears at bootup), can you google the model ? bios-update ?
[06:23] <_bobJR_> if someone could help me im trying to make pcmanfm the default file manager for xubuntu does anyone know the correct way of doing this
[06:23] <_bobJR_> 8.10 of coarse
[06:23] <_bobJR_> thunar has alot of bugs
[06:24] <unr3a1> DasEi, also, based on how the CD rom sounds, I would say it is atleast a 24x
[06:24] <nado> _bobJR_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488954
[06:24] <_bobJR_> thanks nado
[06:25] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  have you ever heard when update-manager doesn't update all the packages
[06:25] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Yes, but typically when a partial upgrade of the OS is required, which update-manager should walk you through.
[06:26] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I've seen it happen before also for other reasons, but you can usually get around it by dropping to the command line: "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[06:26] <Shiny1988> çäðàñòâóéòå, çäåñü åñòü ðóññêîãîâîðÿùèå? :)
[06:26] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  b/c mine does that... reinstalle update-manager?
[06:26] <unr3a1> DasEi, this computer is 8 years old.
[06:26] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  will that make upgrade??!
[06:26] <DasEi> unr3a1: as my abilities of a fortune teller end without technical, you may try goole to find out more; without more specific information it's hard to help you there, does windows still run it ?
[06:26] <unr3a1> DasEi, so the BIOS is that old as well, and it has the most up-to-date BIOS that Dell has released for these machines
[06:26] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Of the packages... it won't upgrade your OS version.
[06:27] <unr3a1> DasEi, well yea, its been running a stripped version of XP for over a year now.
[06:27] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  didn't do anything... reinstall update-manager?
[06:28] <Excell> FAJ: sudo apt-get update   ?
[06:28] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Umm, I don't think that's gonna do it.
[06:28] <unr3a1> DasEi, I am not expecting you to be a fortune teller
[06:28] <DasEi> unr3a1: so you could use a sys-tool to get more specs, this becomes more and more a guessing game..
[06:28] <janedoe_> will ubuntu's installer create and size a new partition to allow an existing OS (e.g. Vista) to be left in place and functional?
[06:29] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  haha, it's just weird b/c when kernel updates, it will not WILL NOT also install linux-restricted...
[06:29] <s0ygecko> Hi everybody...
[06:29] <unr3a1> DasEi, nvm... its the hard drive.  i put in the old 40GB hard drive, and the installer cd loaded fine.  I put in the 30GB maxtor again, and I am getting these I/O erros
[06:29] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I've seen before where the new kernel is made available, but the linux-restricted-modules package for that kernel has not... it's unfortunate.
[06:29] <FAJ> oh... shoot ok
[06:30] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I haven't had that problem in a while though.
[06:30] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  ok i will make note.
[06:30] <unr3a1> DasEi, its not a guessing game.  its simple logic.  its an old Dell Dimension 4100.  P3, 1.10GHz with an old, crappy bios
[06:30] <DasEi> unr3a1: hm, explains the swap-issue, but not the live-behaviour
[06:30] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: I've been running 9.04 without a hitch for at least two months now... it was in Alpha earlier, and there was a few bugs.
[06:31] <unr3a1> DasEi, what live behavior?
[06:31] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: Well, hope I helped you out.  Now I'm off to sleep ;)
[06:31] <Excell> JoeLinux117:  work good?
[06:31] <DasEi> unr3a1:why won't a live load then ?
[06:31] <JoeLinux117> Excell: Yes, I really like it.
[06:31] <ashleyw> hey, is there a way to boot just the terminal as ubuntu server does....on a desktop installation?
[06:31] <Excell> cool..have a good nite
[06:31] <JoeLinux117> Excell: New notifications, GEM (fantastic improvement in graphics performance)...
[06:32] <FAJ> night joe thanks
[06:32] <JoeLinux117> Excell: Definitely worth it.
[06:32] <FAJ> JoeLinux117:  thanks
[06:32] <unr3a1> DasEi, ....   a live will load.  but it takes too long.  my hair would be grown out to around my ankles by the time the friggin thig loaded.
[06:32] <JoeLinux117> FAJ: No prob...
[06:32] <Excell> sound 2?
[06:32] <JoeLinux117> Bye!
[06:32] <Excell> bye
[06:32] <JoeLinux117> Excell: Yes...
[06:32] <JoeLinux117> lol
[06:32] <Excell> ya
[06:32] <unr3a1> DasEi, and I have a buzz cut
[06:33] <DasEi>  ashleyw:system > administration > loginmanager
[06:33] <s0ygecko> Hey I was finding interesting thing about a decentralized internet and wish to ask one thing.
[06:33] <sbhattarai> can anyone suggest a best svn tool for ubuntu?
[06:33] <s0ygecko> Any here knows about Netsukuku?
[06:33] <janedoe_> sbhattarai rapidsvn is decent
[06:33] <ashleyw> awesome thanks DasEi, I'll go have a look
[06:34] <janedoe_> there's always command line ;)
[06:34] <sbhattarai> thanks jane
[06:34] <sbhattarai> i wud prefer the one with gui
[06:34] <janedoe_> np.  know any other good ones?
[06:35] <sbhattarai> i used kdesvn, didnt find it good.
[06:35] <unr3a1> DasEi, whatever.  its late, and my battery on my netbook is about to die.  thanks for the inputs.  goodnight.
[06:36] <DasEi> unr3a1: I'm off for now, too, np
[06:36] <Ian00> if I do: init 1, my computer freezes. is there any way to get out of X without restarting in single user mode? perhaps stopping gdm?
[06:36] <bluejeans> sbhattarai, you're using gnome right? look for a gnome app not kde... it'll work better for oyu
[06:37] <iceroot> sbhattarai: qsvn
[06:37] <iceroot> sbhattarai: its not in the repos but at there website there is a tutorial to build from source
[06:38] <iceroot> sbhattarai: http://www.anrichter.net/projects/qsvn/
[06:38] <bluejeans> sbhattarai.. you mean gsvn?  yeah try tha tone
[06:38] <sbhattarai> iceroot, thanks i'll try qsvn.. is it good?
[06:39] <iceroot> sbhattarai: i think its ok for basic svn
[06:39] <iceroot> sbhattarai: works fine here for my projects
[06:39] <Crshman> anyone know how to restart the fast-user-switch-applet?
[06:39] <sbhattarai> iceroot, can we find something similar to tortoisesvn?
[06:40] <keith> Does anyone know where I can find the source code for dumpe2fs?
[06:40] <bluejeans> crsh, why use an applet? ctrl-alt-f8
[06:40] <iceroot> sbhattarai: there is an application for kde like tortoisesvn with desktop-integration
[06:40] <Crshman> Well the applet was there, and it disappeared....not sure where it went off too though
[06:40] <sbhattarai> that wud be lovely..
[06:41] <sbhattarai> anything which has desktop integration and rightclick menu.. wud be good
[06:41] <iceroot> sbhattarai: you have to look apt-cache  dont know the name
[06:41] <Xenod> Hi all someone can help me to configure ratio on proftpd server please
[06:41] <iceroot> !ask | Xenod
[06:41] <iceroot> keith: if the deb is in the repos, you will find the source there also (maybe you have to enable the src repo)
[06:42] <Xenod> !ask
[06:42] <iceroot> Xenod: just ask your real question
[06:43] <Xenod> how activate ratio on proftpd server?
[06:43] <chehyderabadi> hi all
[06:45] <iceroot> Xenod: http://www-ftp.lip6.fr/pub/networking/proftpd/docs/userguide.html#AEN1035
[06:45] <JPSman> How do I create a "symbolic link" for firefox java extensions?
[06:46] <keith> iceroot, all I can find is e2fslibs-dev which is not what I want, right?
[06:47] <otokoyama> hey guys, im generating passwords with pwgen, redirecting it to a file, how do i prefix a number to each password before it is written to file?
[06:47] <prch> hi,i have a system with 2 users, i want one to be in chinese one in english, but everytime i login GDM asks me if i want to change the language to default , can i somehow fix this?
[06:47] <iceroot> keith: enable src in repos (add to end of line) sudo apt-get update  and then you will find the source-code (imo)
[06:49] <otokoyama> anyone?
[06:49] <o0Chris0o> !patience | otokoyama
[06:49] <otokoyama> thanks chris for creating more bytes
[06:49] <Ian00> how can i get out of X and into console without restarting in single user mode? perhaps stopping gdm? init 1 freezes my comp :(
[06:50] <otokoyama> ctrl+alt backspace
[06:50] <iceroot> Ian00: stop gdm or ctrl + alt + f1
[06:50] <oOarthurOo> Hi... my buddy sent me this video of his ski trip... it's wicked. How do I put this video (it's an .avi file, but he said he used divx to encode it) onto a dvd so I can watch it on my tv? My laptop doesn't have an svideo out, or I'd just use that.
[06:50] <iceroot> otokoyama: this restarts x
[06:54] <John`anderson> Hello! i need a little help
[06:55] <John`anderson> i want to know how to add higher resolutions on Ubuntu, i know my video card and monitor supports resolutions more than 1024x768
[06:56] <bluejeans> JPSman.. did you get an answer? in terminal "ln -s [source] [target]"
[06:56] <Nithrin1> I keep trying to view a file from the commandline with less <filename>, but it does not work and I get the following message: No catdoc available. What do I do?
[06:57] <otokoyama> hey guys, im generating passwords with pwgen, redirecting it to a file, how do i prefix a number to each password before it is written to file?
[06:57] <ZupZupper> John`anderson: what video cards + monitor
[06:57] <ZupZupper> Nithrin1: does more <filename> give different results?
[06:57] <John`anderson> GEForce mx - Dell Monitor
[06:58] <matthias_> Wer kann mir bei meinem Problem helfen:
[06:58] <John`anderson> i had it working before but i tried getting the desktop effects and it screwed the whole thing up
[06:58] <matthias_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 179E99D24515F634
[06:59] <lvlefisto> John`anderson: System --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution
[06:59] <Nithrin1> That works. It will show basic text, but will not show titles. It only shows the body. Won't show anything in bold
[06:59] <John`anderson> yeah i dont have an  option there for the resolution i want
[06:59] <Nithrin1> How do I get it to show everything?
[06:59] <UbuTheUbi> hey is it  a security risk to have remote administration on in ubuntu?
[06:59] <lstarnes> UbuTheUbi: if improperly secured, yes
[06:59] <Nithrin1> What good is command line if I don't know how to open anything or view anything with it?
[06:59] <UbuTheUbi> I have gotten 2 requests just today with people asking to view my desktop
[07:00] <bluejeans> otokoyama; it looks like you  need to specify this beforhand http://www.cliki.net/pygen
[07:00] <ZupZupper> Nithrin1: what kind of file are you trying to view?
[07:00] <TommyBres_> UbuTheUbi: that was me, i wanna view
[07:00] <Nithrin1> word document .doc
[07:00] <UbuTheUbi> lol
[07:00] <UbuTheUbi> here comes a hammering of people wanting to view lol
[07:00] <ZupZupper> Nithrin1: ahh, command line parsers aren't going to view that in the way you want to.  For that your best bet is to use Openoffice or any of the other GUI based programs
[07:01] <John`anderson> the resolution i want is 1152x864
[07:01] <UbuTheUbi> I just think its weird it has to be someone online.. because im not thinking anyone local would have ubuntu too
[07:01] <aryah> mornin ppl
[07:01] <Nithrin1> I know that, I was just playing with command line and trying to see what was available to me. How do I open a document in open office from the command line?
[07:01] <UbuTheUbi> I have about 3 neighbors that could probably pick up my network
[07:01] <bluejeans> nitrin: "openoffice document.doc"
[07:01] <UbuTheUbi> how do i properly secure the remote administratio?
[07:02] <UbuTheUbi> *Administration
[07:02] <Nithrin1> Thanks, I'll try that
[07:02] <aryah> has anyone here tried putting a video playback on their background? mplayer --rootwin does put the playback on the root window,  as google searches have indicated it should, but it draws over my windows nevertheless?
[07:02] <UbuTheUbi> I mean what im getting at is what happens if someone keeps hammering me trying to guess the password
[07:02] <natsukashi_> gparted doesn't let me partition to ntfs. :/
[07:02] <Nithrin1> aww! It'll work, but I got to go into the folder it is in first
[07:02] <Nithrin1> I guess that is not so bad tho
[07:02] <ZupZupper> natsukashi_: it can resize it =)
[07:03] <UbuTheUbi> anyone else have experience with people trying to connect remotely with them?
[07:03] <Golden|Wolf> anyone install ubuntu on inspiron 1525?
[07:03] <bluejeans> ubutheubi.. make your passowird 14 characters long and the can keep guessing ad infinitum
[07:03] <UbuTheUbi> sweet
[07:03] <UbuTheUbi> ill do that
[07:03] <natsukashi_> ZupZupper: But my friend used gparted to create 2 ntfs-partitions. :(
[07:04] <UbuTheUbi> i have 1 more question.
[07:04] <ZupZupper> natsukashi_: was he using a different version than you?
[07:04] <UbuTheUbi> why are linksys routers so garbo? I know how to properly open ports for applications and the ip addy of my computer and all
[07:04] <aryah> ubutheubi, I also saw some package, fail2ban i think, that be configured to block an IP for for instance failing to authenticate a number of thimes..
[07:04] <UbuTheUbi> why does it sometimes work when i open a port
[07:04] <UbuTheUbi> and sometimes not
[07:05] <UbuTheUbi> like nice
[07:05] <natsukashi_> ZupZupper: I don't think so. He used the live CD (the very same I used to install my Ubuntu.) and I'm running it on Ubuntu
[07:05] <UbuTheUbi> ..ill definately do that
[07:05] <UbuTheUbi> the fail to ban thing
[07:05] <Nithrin1> When I did openoffice <filename> I got the following message: (soffice:25671): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is depracated  It opened the document, but what does that message mean and what has it done to my document?
[07:05] <oOarthurOo> Does anyone know how to take avi files and turn them into dvd's that can play on a dvd player?
[07:05] <eMaX_> vodafone-mobile-connect - anyone has that running under jaunty?
[07:05] <UbuTheUbi> seriously though guys are older wrt54 model routers just garbage?
[07:05] <nado> Nithrin1, nothing.. it's just a warning
[07:06] <Nithrin1> a warning for nothing...lol if u say so
[07:06] <ZupZupper> natsukashi_: hmm what're you trying to accomplish beyond just creating the ntfs parts?
[07:06] <nado> Nithrin1, GTK apps always outputs stuff when run from console
[07:06] <Nithrin1> okies
[07:06] <TommyBres_> oOarthurOo: i can do that on windoze, dont know how on linnix
[07:06] <ZupZupper> UbuTheUbi: Nothing wrong with the older wrt54g's especially if you drop dd-wrt on them
[07:06] <John`anderson> soo
[07:06] <Nithrin1> !GTK
[07:06] <natsukashi_> ZupZupper: Resizing it, but I'm going to use it to install SlimXP.
[07:06] <bluejeans> fithrin1... your document was maybe written with an older version of word and  some parameters are antiquated... but there's no problem
[07:07] <John`anderson> noone can help me add a new screen resolution to the list on ubuntu?
[07:07] <ZupZupper> natsukashi_: the best thing to do if you're going to install xp is to let xp's disk tools create the ntfs file system
[07:07] <aryah> Nithrin1, it really is so, many programs spew warnings yet work fine, I guess cleaning up every last one is not a priority sometimes...
[07:07] <nado> John`anderson, private message me
[07:07] <bluenzo> u can use gparted to create a NTFS partition
[07:07] <Nithrin1> As long as it works, I don't care...heh
[07:08] <UbuTheUbi> 91.187.116.67
[07:08] <Nithrin1> Just trying to find out why some people swear by command line
[07:08] <UbuTheUbi> http://cqcounter.com/whois/
[07:08] <natsukashi_> ZupZupper: Hm, okay. I guess I'll have to do that. :) Thanks
[07:08] <UbuTheUbi> thats where this fagzor thats trying to access my computer is
[07:09] <aryah> so, no ideas on root window video playback?
[07:09] <UbuTheUbi> i wanna kick his serbian ass
[07:09] <ZupZupper> natsukashi_: np
[07:09] <bluejeans> nithrin.. with experience and time you will find the the command line is your friend... it is actually much faster a definitely more pcapable than the guis...
[07:09] <jack|ass> Any MD experts?  I had two drives in a raid array get marked failed due to a power outage (they were fine).  I tried to restart the array several times with no luck and finally tried to recreate it.  However, the array looks blank.  Am I out of luck?
[07:09] <aryah> lol UbiTheUbi :)
[07:09] <otokoyama> bluejeans, dw worked it out sed 's@^@r@g' someone in ##linux knew
[07:10] <bluejeans> otoko.. ok
[07:10] <UbuTheUbi> seriously though why do you want to pick on people who have ubuntu.. is it not easy enough to f/ with the dummies on windows
[07:10] <ZupZupper> anyone else have trouble with the Network Manager and static IP addresses in 8.10?
[07:10] <yakobmatrix> has anyone try to install condor in ubuntu? I am bit stuck here
[07:11] <bluejeans> ubutheubi: i don't  pick on ubuntu.. i have used it for years and though i now use slackware i still appreciate ubuntu for certain qualities..
[07:11] <UbuTheUbi> just curious.
[07:11] <Ian00> jack|ass, creating it again probably did you in
[07:11] <UbuTheUbi> how can you tell if someone is viewing your desktop
[07:12] <jack|ass> Ian00: damn it, i was afraid of that.
[07:12] <UbuTheUbi> or has viewed is there a log somewhere?
[07:12] <hwolff> Which channel can help me with KDE 4.2 Widgets?
[07:12] <jack|ass> Ian00: although doing -E shows a large portion of the array is used.  That makes me think the data is still intact.
[07:12] <UbuTheUbi> im worried someone else who uses this computer may have just clicked it not knowing what it was
[07:13] <bluejeans> ubu  haha are you on a network? if not then as long as you have your security up you'll never have to worry abou tthat
[07:13] <UbuTheUbi> no i HAD it not no more though
[07:13] <bluejeans> ubu: oh.. sorry. i misunderstood  ... just a sec
[07:13] <UbuTheUbi> so you could connect over the internet
[07:14] <UbuTheUbi> but someone would have to allow them on my side
[07:14] <bluejeans> ubu, yes
[07:14] <JPSman> bluejeans - Thank you :OD
[07:14] <UbuTheUbi> just curious.. is there a way to scan ips on here to see if that ip is prowling on people in this chat
[07:15] <frybye> Hi - I am quasi a volunteer doing some computer stuff here at a local school. It has 99.9% windows pc's but we are introducing a few ubuntu machines now. Can I change the username of the initial user (the one who can access sudo etc..) to administrator to conform to all the others - read some place about there being problems with that..?
[07:15] <bluejeans> jpsman:  worked for oyu?
[07:15] <Omni> frybye: look into /etc/sudoers
[07:15] <Omni> and the group "admin"
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> frybye: any user can use sudo as long as its a member of admin
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | frybye
[07:16] <bluejeans> frybye; uh... too late.. what they said. you can also specify certain tasts that other users can run via visudo
[07:16] <UbuTheUbi> ill almost bet this is where that guy got the ip .. why would someone scan thousands of computers ports to find just one ubuntu ip
[07:16] <frybye> and it is ok to name a user in the admin group "administrator?" yeah?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> frybye: there isnt just one single "admin" account like windows, in the real world this isnt practical, even windows has a group for administrators which users can be added to give multiple admin accounts
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you can have any username excpet the ones in:   cat /etc/passwd
[07:17] <Omni> frybye: for ease of your soul make a new administrator first or you'll have trouble adding usesrs when you're not an admin anymore
[07:17] <UbuTheUbi> is anyone administrator or able to check if this ip is currently connected on this room?
[07:18] <UbuTheUbi> it would be funny as hell to send him a message
[07:18] <Home> help me
[07:18] <Home> how can i make my nick register
[07:18] <John`anderson> Thanks Nado! You're awesome
[07:19] <nado> hehe no problem
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> !register
[07:19] <bluejeans> home; what client are you using?
[07:19] <bluejeans> piding?
[07:19] <bluejeans> *pidgin
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> bluejeans: its generic for all clients
[07:19] <Home> i'm using simple mirc
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Home: do it in an empty room, spawn your own so we wont see if you mess up
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> gah @ mirc
[07:20] <natsukashi_> Or in the server window.
[07:20] <bluejeans> actionparsnip; not that i would argue the point but the standard /<nick> wouldn't work for me on pidgin..
[07:20] <frybye> Omni: is there a way to change the user-name of the intial user.. if the first account installed was fred - how can I change user name from fred to administrator?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> bluejeans: strange, workd for me in pidgin
[07:20] <Home> means i cannot register this nick Home ?
[07:20] <perscitus> Is ATI support in ubuntu/linux getting better?
[07:20] <anr78> Is the wiki for running Ubuntu on the latest MacBook Pro up-to-date? Anyone using it who can tell me if most/all hardware work like it should?
[07:21] <aryah> bluejeans isnt it  something like /msg nickserv REGISTER ?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Home: if you cannot register it, its already registered
[07:21] <Omni> frybye: probably just easier to adduser administrator and then just make that an admin?
[07:21] <Omni> o are you trying to transfer something?
[07:21] <UbuTheUbi> can someone please tell me if a ip address is on here they were trying to remote admin my computer 2 times today and im pretty sure they got my ip from this room
[07:21] <frybye> ok thanks...
[07:21] <UbuTheUbi> it would be fun for me to be able to message him to freak em out
[07:21] <bluejeans> frybye: yes.. activate root and then remore all users form the wheel
[07:21] <UbuTheUbi> or at least see what he says
[07:21] <Vampire> ActionParsnip: how could i know if someone has already got the nick before my time
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Vampire: it will fail
[07:22] <Vampire> :(
[07:22] <enterneo> if I do a fresh ubuntu 9.04 beta install, do I need to separately keep a ext3 /boot partition for grub (i am going to partition the filesystem as ext4)
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> KIller: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Damn: please do this in another channel its spamming the room when you change
[07:23] <gopogo> ?
[07:24] <nado> enterneo, please ask your question in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <perscitus> Is ATI support in ubuntu/linux getting better?
[07:24] <gopogo> ubuntu 8.10 has stopped mounting usb drive
[07:25] <natsukashi_> Right. Good software for mounting ISOs, .imgs and so on. Any suggestions?
[07:25] <Omni> perscitus: yes.
[07:25] <bluejeans> eterneo: no you don't need to
[07:26] <perscitus> Omni->  like Radeon 4670?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom0
[07:26] <aryah> if its not too impolite to bump a q, did anyone here try putting video playback on their desktop?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: will mount ISO nicely
[07:26] <natsukashi_> ActionParsnip: Thanks. :D
[07:27] <bluejeans> aryah: you mean as a wallpaper of jsut plain movies?
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: linux has been mounting ISO files for AGES
[07:28] <aryah> bluejeans, yes, I mean, making my walpaper a video playback
[07:28] <UbuTheUbi> hey in all seriousness where is the log for remote admin so i can see when it was used
[07:28] <UbuTheUbi> i need to know if someone else at my house actually accepted it not knowing what it was
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: if they are video images of DVDs then VLC can play them without mounting
[07:28] <UbuTheUbi> This can be very bad
[07:28] <ReVoLt> ./var/log/auth.log @ UbuTheUbi
[07:29] <ReVoLt> without dot
[07:29] <bluejeans> aryah. nope, never tried it
[07:29] <UbuTheUbi> thanks so much
[07:29] <Omni> http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+ati-radeon-hd-4670?id=6660 perscitus
[07:29] <aryah> ah, k
[07:29] <bluejeans> but i'm sure goole will tell you how
[07:29] <aryah> bluejeans, :) yes, well, Ive run into trouble with sollutions offered by google, so :)
[07:29] <natsukashi_> ActionParsnip: Will it work for .img files too?
[07:30] <bluejeans> aryah..  =the best way to learn
[07:30] <maxagaz> what command can i use to disable the screensaver on a remote mache ?
[07:30] <aryah> bluejeans lol
[07:30] <aryah> true :)
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: sudo mount -t udf -o loop /path/to/file.img /media/cdrom0
[07:30] <Omni> perscitus: it's really just a testing case per card, graphics card support keeps getting better, Have you tried a liveCD?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/06/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images.html   or a lame gui app if you are terrified of your keyboard
[07:31] <klemens> hi
[07:31] <perscitus> Omni->  i just bought it so dont have it
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: or you can make a couple of scripts using those commands
[07:31] <Omni> perscitus: incase you didn't get it http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+ati-radeon-hd-4670?id=6660
[07:31] <UbuTheUbi> ok im trying to make sense of this auth.log file
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: i have mountiso and mountimg on my home system
[07:31] <perscitus> Omni->  one review means nothing
[07:31] <UbuTheUbi> what should i search for to find the remote admin login attempts
[07:32] <UbuTheUbi> theres so many things in the log
[07:32] <natsukashi_> ActionParsnip: Well, I don't know how to create scripts. But I like writing stuff in the terminal. it makes me feel like a tech wiz even if I'm just a normal kid.
[07:32] <ashleyw> Hey I'm trying to make a USB HDD writable, but I cant work out which drive it is? (in /dev)
[07:32] <Omni> perscitus: yeah of course but if you look around there is support around for it, and it will work so are you looking for direct rendering etc? so then i'm not sure
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: a script is a text file marked as executable with '#!/bin/bash'   as its first line (without the 's)
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: then its just a list of instructions to follow like the method part of a cooking recipe
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: http://pastebin.com/f330221a8
[07:34] <husayn_>  i have installed flash player.. but still when i open firefox 3.x or sea monkey it says that you have got a older version of flash or you have flash disabled... now what to do i cant see youtube
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: thats one ono my fileserver called 'fullupgrade'
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: its pretty self explanatory
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> feel free to copy it
[07:35] <natsukashi_> ActionParsnip: Thanks. :D
[07:35] <ReVoLt> UbuTheUbi --> query
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: put it in a text file, chmod +x the file then put it in your path someplace
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: you can then run 'sudo fullupgrade' and it will run through the list of commands
[07:36] <natsukashi_> ActionParsnip: I take this will work on Debian also?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: as longas debian uses those commands, yes
[07:36] <natsukashi_> It does. :)
[07:37] <natsukashi_> Unless I've been lied to
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> natsukashi_: you can make a scipt do anything as you can do anything in terminal that you can do in gui (except flash in websites)
[07:37] <ashleyw> ^^ anyone know? Is there a command to show all the mounted drives (with their current mount points)?
[07:37] <magnetron> ashleyw→ "mount"
[07:38] <ashleyw> ah cool ty! :D
[07:38] <UbuTheUbi> how do you start nmap?
[07:38] <Ben___> is there any electronic information on how installing drivers work on ubuntu and why i keep getting a black screen when i run a hardware test?
[07:38] <ashleyw> btw, you don't know how do mount a usb hdd so it's writable do you?
[07:38] <magnetron> UbuTheUbi→ nmap is command line, maybe you should use a graphical frontend instead
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> UbuTheUbi: nmap is a CLI app, you need a gui for it unless you want to use the command line version
[07:39] <bluejeans> ben. you don't really install drivers in linux..
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> ashleyw: if its ntfs formatted
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | ashleyw
[07:39] <ashleyw> yep it is
[07:39] <UbuTheUbi> graphical front end whats a common one people use for nmap?
[07:39] <lucky> hi .. fairly obscure question.  Is there a pinyin traditional chinese input method in Ubuntu?
[07:39] <magnetron> lucky→ yes. called SCIM
[07:39] <magnetron> !scim | lucky
[07:39] <bluejeans> ben. are you talking about a video card?
[07:39] <Ben___> yah
[07:40] <Ben___> sorry i got bombed with text :D
[07:40] <lucky> magcius: yes, i already have scim and i have simplified character input with pinyin... but i can't find a traditional module
[07:40] <lucky> er sorry, magnetron: yes, i already have scim and i have simplified character input with pinyin... but i can't find a traditional module
[07:41] <bluejeans> ben.  if you're getting a blank screen then you need to configure xorg
[07:41] <bluejeans> ben. get you card type and do a search
[07:42] <UbuTheUbi> so im guessing zenmap is the most common gui
[07:42] <Crshman> UbuTheUbi: what are you trying to do with nmap?
[07:43] <Ben___> i searched the forms and see large configurations of xorg
[07:43] <Crshman> UbuTheUbi: the syntax isn't *that* hard
[07:43] <baz> i have a NAS that directly faces the internet, whats a good way to see if its been hacked, or how many network connections it has, etc... I have no visibility on its activity
[07:43] <UbuTheUbi> check my security
[07:43] <Ben___> is it as simple as copy and paste O_o/
[07:43] <Crshman> UbuTheUbi: what ports you have open?
[07:43] <UbuTheUbi> yeh that
[07:43] <Crshman> if you just type nmap it will tell you
[07:43] <bluejeans> ben.. be sure you get the right one for your card...
[07:43] <Crshman> but to make it easy for you...
[07:43] <bluejeans> you have the model numbeR?
[07:43] <Tongue> Do you have /ns set url
[07:43] <Crshman> nmap -v -A localhost
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Ben___: its the same as in windows, ctrl+c, ctrl+v
[07:44] <znull> hey, how can I import Firefox settings (bookmarks/passwords/etc) from my windows vista ? to another (PC ubuntu)
[07:44] <Crshman> znull: try foxmarks?
[07:44] <Akio> Hey people. I just migrated from Windows last night (Dual booting) and I was wondering if there was a way to make the filesystem in Ubuntu look like Windows? Like, with the C Drive, and the D Drive and things like that? It's just too familiar to me
[07:44] <soreau> znull: Try #firefox
[07:44] <magnetron> lucky→ go to Applications > Add/Remove, install "language support" . Then go to System > Adminiistration > Language support and enable the Chineses lannguage. Remember to enable support for "complex characters".
[07:44] <Crshman> Akio: that's not the way unix filesystems work
[07:44] <Tongue> why all of the channels are registered by freenode-staff
[07:45] <Crshman> Akio: sorry to disappoint
[07:45] <Ben___> pulling the card now
[07:45] <Guest63563> any girls here?
[07:45] <Akio> Thanks
[07:45] <Ben___> Trident Cyber XP
[07:45] <znull> Crshman, : foxmarks should do the job , thanks
[07:45] <Guest63563> any girls here?
[07:45] <Crshman> znull: np
[07:45] <soreau> Akio: You can easily make symlinks but it's easier to just understand the linux file system structure
[07:45] <Tongue> Do you have /ns set url
[07:45] <bluejeans> ben.. keep looking
[07:45] <Crshman> Guest17557 | spam
[07:45] <Crshman> Guest17557 | !spam
[07:45] <Crshman> bah
[07:46] <Guest63563> what linux, a girl
[07:46] <Guest63563> ?
[07:46]  * Tongue is looking for help
[07:46] <Guest63563> any girls here?
[07:46] <Crshman> !help
[07:46] <bluejeans> ben... number?
[07:46] <soreau> Tongue: Try #freenode?
[07:46] <Tongue> freenode is a dead meat
[07:46] <Ben___> i have one of those old laptops that don't have a video card like nvidia 5200
[07:47] <Ben___> this was like the voodoo 2 haha :D
[07:47] <znull> on ubuntu 9.04 can I encrypt my hard disk? ( on windows I use trucrypt... I know that they support linux too ) but it's that safe?
[07:47] <bluejeans> ben. then in the terminal type lspci
[07:47] <Akio> Hahah, well it shows the file structure of my files the way I like them in My Computer. I should have noticed it before, but I guess I was a bit too tired
[07:47] <Flannel> znull: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, thanks.
[07:48] <Ben___> oh beautiful
[07:48] <bluejeans> ben. haha (oh.. that as root...)
[07:49] <Akio> How can I rename "137.5 GB Media"? When I try it says the rename isn't supported backend?
[07:49] <sproaty> I can't assign ctrl+tab / ctrl+shift+tab as a shortcut in my program, nor in any gnome app (I've got the setting enabled to let you change a program's shortcuts)
[07:50] <gopogo> is there any way i can convert ubuntu remix usb img to iso ?
[07:50] <bluejeans> gopogo. yes there is... but you dont' want to try it.. no way is it worth it. jsut download the iso
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> !info img2iso
[07:51] <ynk> what are the steps i need to take in order to get my plug-and-play mp3 player to work?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> !b2chunk
[07:51] <ynk> i plugged it in and didn't see anything..
[07:51] <Ben___> oh lol
[07:52] <Ben___> I have a Trident Cyberblade XPAi1 rev 82
[07:52] <Ben___> wowzers the drivers are installed
[07:52] <Ben___> wonder why im limited to 800x600
[07:52] <zeltikon> what is the cd ripper that comes installed with ubuntu
[07:52] <gopogo> bluejeans : my internet is very slow
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> gopogo: sudo apt-get install ccd2iso
[07:52] <UbuTheUbi> zenmap works perfect
[07:52] <UbuTheUbi> very easy to use
[07:52] <BilokShem> Why gopogo
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> gopogo: ccd2iso <img> <iso>
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> !info ccd2iso
[07:53] <PolitikerNEU> Hello, I got the following problem: I want to install ubuntu, but the CD is defect. Since I only have this CD currently, I want to nevertheless install ubuntu (without the defect package) - is there a way to do it (the Package is only a font package)
[07:53] <[HU]gnanet> Hi, dear people, im hunting a problem related to cron.daily, it runs about 24hours, but every task is done
[07:53] <UbuTheUbi> its actually the official nmap gui
[07:53] <[HU]gnanet> So it is not the apt problem
[07:53] <soreau> PolitikerNEU: You need to use a clean image and disc
[07:54] <PolitikerNEU> soreau: So there is no option to "force install"?
[07:55] <[HU]gnanet> forgot to mention it's Hardy
[07:55] <aryah> what is the channel of xcompmgr?
[07:56] <c_nick> what is the channel for VirtualBox
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> c_nick: #vbox
[07:57] <Jordan_U> [HU]gnanet, What tasks aren't done?
[07:57] <[HU]gnanet> Every task is done
[07:57] <c_nick> ok thanks
[07:57] <[HU]gnanet> if i check with htop
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> PolitikerNEU: you should have checked the iso before burning, as well as verify the cd is consistant once booted to. burning as slow as possible helps massively
[07:57] <[HU]gnanet> the chain is:
[07:57] <[HU]gnanet> CRON - /bin/sh -c test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) - run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
[07:57] <gopogo> cd2iso ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.iso
[07:57] <gopogo> Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!
[07:57] <[HU]gnanet> so no subprocess
[07:58] <[HU]gnanet> and after 24 hours i get the cron output
[07:58] <PolitikerNEU> ActionParsnip: I know, I know - but that doesn't help me now
[07:58] <gopogo> ActionParsnip: getting error
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> PolitikerNEU: if the cd is bad i strongly suggest throwing it out
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> gopogo: whats the error
[07:59] <gopogo> Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> PolitikerNEU: you have learned the hardest way why md5 is massively important
[07:59] <gopogo> cd2iso ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.img ubuntu-9.04-beta-netbook-remix-i386.iso
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> gopogo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages
[08:03] <frybye> Hi - was looking for a way to set up an intrepid box to present a login window on starting (i.e. not autologin-) but then have one restricted user account where only the user name was entered and no password.. dosent seem possible or...?
[08:03] <ReVoLt> how to remove a file named: "-Rf"
[08:03] <ReVoLt> ?
[08:03] <frybye> the system seems to refuse to allow any type of user account with a blank password.. right?
[08:03] <nado> Revolt : try rm "-Rf"
[08:04] <ReVoLt> nope doesn't work
[08:04] <ursusss> Hello, I have a problem when I try to reinstall grub. The error message is "The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." when I use this command line: "sudo grub-install –root-directory=/mnt hd0"
[08:04] <ynk> how do i mount a usb storage device?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you can have the username automatically populated
[08:04] <frybye> I can setup autologin to an account but then one does not have the option right at the start to decide what account is to be used..
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> ynk: what filesystem is it using?
[08:04] <nado> ReVoLt, rm \-Rf ?
[08:05] <frybye> ActionParsnip: how do you mean... so that at login the username is already entered...?
[08:05] <ynk> ActionParsnip, hang on. i will find out. i'm not even sure. do you mean like NTFS vs FAT32?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> ynk: yes, is it fat32, fat, ext3, jfs, ext2, ext3
[08:05] <ReVoLt> no...
[08:05] <eusu_kefuin> Hi Ho, everyone! Does anyone know how to turn off the framebuffer of Ubuntu 8.04 completely? Setting "nosplash vga=normal" or "nosplash nofb" only turns off the framebuffer for one or two boot screen. But, afterwards, the boot screen switches to a framebuffer again. Should I recompile the kernel, or is there another easy way to turn it off completely?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> which?
[08:05] <noren> hello everyone is there any official support channel for nvidia
[08:05] <frybye> noren - nvidia do have a forum system but no irc etc afaik
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> noren: drop to recovery root console: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    then reboot will give you a display
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> frybye: yes you can have the username already set but it is changable
[08:06] <frybye> you can find the forums at nvidia.com if I remember rightly..
[08:06] <soreau> noren: nvnews forums
[08:06] <noren> ActionParsnip: no it did not helped i have tried that earlier
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> ynk: sudo fdisk -l    will show you what partitions are formatted to what filesystem
[08:07] <Lou_> Has anyone here ever paid Ubuntu for support? If so, did their support please you?
[08:07] <ynk> ActionParsnip, gotcha.
[08:07] <frybye> ActionParsnip: can you explain a little what you mean by "automatically populated?"
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> noren: then you have a bigger issue as that command will set your display settings to failsafe
[08:07] <soreau> Lou_: Support in what medium ?
[08:07] <macman_> can you network boot ubuntu ?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> frybye: so that when the screen is presented, the username will alrready be filled out
[08:08] <frybye> ActionParsnip: i already have an autologin - but then it goes straight into that account and does not present a login window to allow use of whichever account..
[08:08] <eusu_kefuin> Does anyone know why setting "nosplash vga=norma" does not turn off frame buffer completely? I mean, after one or two boot screens, the screen is switched back to framebuffer again. Is this because the Xorg server takes place?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then disable autologin
[08:08] <frybye> yeah but the problem is to have an account that uses a blank pw
[08:08] <nado> ReVoLt, rm -- -Rf
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> frybye: thats the worst idea ever
[08:08] <ReVoLt> yeah works
[08:09] <ReVoLt> ty
[08:09] <anooptp> hi
[08:09] <frybye> no good trying to get the kids in a school to remember/use a pw...
[08:09] <Lou_> soreau, by email or phone.
[08:09] <ReVoLt> how did got the solution?
[08:09] <frybye> restricted account ...
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then your entire network is unsecure
[08:09] <nado> -- tells rm to stop looking for options
[08:09] <nado> man rm, and google
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> frybye: i'm sure they have passwords for stuff they use like myspace/facebook
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> frybye: having no password is ridiculous
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | ynk
[08:10] <nado> ReVoLt, in man rm it is explained actually :)
[08:10] <eusu_kefuin> No, I don't think Xorg takes place. The switch is caused while still booting the kernel. Anyone knows how to turn framebuffer completely?
[08:10] <soreau> Lou_: I would suggest to read, get forums support or ask here first any question. Support is free and you shouldn't have to pay for it unless you need something very complicated and specific
[08:10] <frybye> ActionParsnip: of course from a security aspect not good.. it is just the way things are done here.. I am only a low low ranking guy with little training less money playing sysadmin but with no authority in some respects - as far as changing how things are done..
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> ynk: if its ntfs, anything else you can just mount
[08:10] <choice> hi, i want to save OO files from Ubuntu client to Ubuntu server -save to smb shares, but nautilus can't see them until i mount them, i nee dto do that every session, how can i let nautilus see them without having to mount them?
[08:10] <anooptp> anyone helpme 2 findout psd file viewing software other than jimp
[08:10] <lo127> dow do I release (clear) the old IP when using dhclient? Its trying to use ond ip in recorded lease
[08:11] <lo127> anyone?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> choice: unless the partition is mounted, nautilus will not see it
[08:11] <ynk> ActionParsnip, i believe it is in fact NTFS. i was just staring at some unusually strange commands on a forum i found from googling.
[08:11] <eusu_kefuin> choice: I am sure that your samba mount is displayed on your desktop. Can you see it?
[08:11] <choice> eusu_kefuin, no its not
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ynk: you need ntfs-3g if you wish to write to the device
[08:11] <frybye> eh - perhaps I should be carefull but it wouild appear that most of the teachers are 99% interested in stuff being simple and requiring the minimum of effort - and 1% concerned about all else...
[08:11] <choice> ActionParsnip, can i have it mount on boot?
[08:11] <eusu_kefuin> choice: But, it is displayed in Nautilus?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> frybye: if you are sys admin, its your responsibility to ensure everything is secure and working
[08:11] <macman_> can you network boot ubuntu on a 9x machine
[08:12] <ynk> ActionParsnip, i'm not even able to view it without the driver? goodness..
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> choice: sure, add a suitable entry to /etc/fstab
[08:12] <frybye> ActionParsnip: i will stick with the autologin...
[08:12] <choice> eusu_kefuin, not until i mount it (places>server>blah blah
[08:12] <frybye> ActionParsnip: let me pm you a second pse..?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> ynk: sure you are, linux can read ntfs on its own, it will still need mounting though
[08:12] <choice> ActionParsnip, will nautilus then show it?
[08:12] <eusu_kefuin> choice: Yes, I know that. Now after you have mounted it, can you see your mount in Desktop?
[08:12] <choice> eusu_kefuin, yes
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> frybye: sure
[08:12] <nado> lo127, dhclient -r
[08:13] <lo127> cheers
[08:13] <eusu_kefuin> choice: Now right-click on that mount.
[08:13] <[HU]gnanet> Jordan_U > every task is done, so no idea
[08:13] <eusu_kefuin> choice: select `properties'
[08:13] <ynk> !dmesg
[08:13] <choice> eusu_kefuin, yes..
[08:13] <ynk> darn.
[08:13] <eusu_kefuin> choice: Sorry, what I thought should be there, is not there. Wait...
[08:15] <choice> eusu_kefuin, i will try the fstab method
[08:15] <eusu_kefuin> choice: That'll do.
[08:15] <Lou_> soreau, I've asked here many times without response. I'm getting desperate. But I'll try one more time. Please give me a few minutes to write out the problem.
[08:16] <eusu_kefuin> choice: Oh, you may want to see this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8023
[08:17] <eusu_kefuin> Does anyone know how to turn off framebuffer completely? Even when I boot to recovery mode, selecting `root: drop to root shell prompt' does not help. The graphic is not the normal VGA.
[08:19] <nado> eusu_kefuin, have you tried removing the 'splash' option from your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:20] <ynk> ActionParsnip, ok i've just apt-"got" ntfs-config and enables the writing to external devices.. but how do you actually mount the thing?
[08:20] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I don't remove it but replace it with `nosplash'. Should be the same, right?
[08:21] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I have googled for a way to turn off framebuffer completely in Ubuntu. But, all says about "nosplash vga=normal". It only helps for one or two boot screens because afterwards the screen switches back to framebuffer again.
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> ynk: sudo mkdir /media/stick; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/<partition name here> /media/stick -o uid=1000
[08:21] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I think hacking the kernel should do the trick. I bet Ubuntu enables it by default since even in recovery mode, the display is in framebuffer!
[08:22] <nado> can you lsmod | grep vesafb
[08:22] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Wait...
[08:22] <ljsoftnet> if i install virtualbox from a .deb file, how do i uninstall it?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> ynk: you will need to populate the partition name you want to mount
[08:23] <ynk> ActionParsnip, it's actually not a stick.. it's an MP3 player. but it acts like a stick. oh boy, i gotta take note of this stuff..
[08:23] <eusu_kefuin> nado: `lsmod | grep vesafb' returns nothing. But, `lsmod | grep fb' returns `fbcon', `tileblit', `font', and `bitblit'.
[08:23] <eusu_kefuin> nado: It means that I have to turn it off in the kernel, right?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> ynk: its a partition to linux, thats all that matters
[08:23] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Or, I think I can just disable the module.
[08:23] <nado> note sure yet one moment, trying to get some info
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> ynk: the kernel deals with how its connected and all that stuff
[08:24] <stallon> hello everyone
[08:24] <ReVoLt> hi
[08:24] <eusu_kefuin> stallon: Hi Ho!
[08:24] <stallon> im glad to be connected to ubuntu tean
[08:24] <eusu_kefuin> stallon: Welcome! :-)
[08:25] <stallon> ubuntuthanks
[08:27] <nado> eusu_kefuin, you might want to try this http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uvesafb
[08:27] <Catalin> hello to all of you
[08:27] <Catalin> i have an audio card named M-audio Revolution 5.1 and i don`t know how to make it to hear 5.1 sound when i play movies
[08:27] <vmangano> salve
[08:27] <ljsoftnet> if i install virtualbox from a .deb file, how do i uninstall it?
[08:27] <frankS2> Hi, is intrepid frozen now? just bugfixing?
[08:28] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Thanks, I will take a look. BTW, you may want to see this interesting comment: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/fb/fbcon.txt#51
[08:28] <ynk> ActionParsnip, am i supposed to find the partition name with "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[08:28] <stallon> im new to ubuntu,  just testing the os, i will get back to you guys...thanks i love ubuntu
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> ynk: yes, you will see the drives named /dev/sda /dev/hdb etc, the partition names will be numbers after those, like /dev/sdb1  and so on
[08:29] <nado> eusu_kefuin, interesting
[08:29] <nado> eusu_kefuin, it's worth a shot removing it
[08:29] <eusu_kefuin> nado: So, I think I have to prevent it from being used by Ubuntu.
[08:29] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Yes, let me try.
[08:29] <shadowblade> Hello - I'm in the final stages of setting up ubuntu 8.04 server to work as a router. (fyi: eth1 is the external connection, eth2 is the internal, ath0 is the wireless in master mode). At the moment, dhcp is working correctly for both eth2 and ath0, but over ath0, nothing resolves. Pings to the gateway that the dhcp server set are timing out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:29] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Thanks for giving me a lead by telling me about lsmod | grep vesafb :-)
[08:30] <kraut> moin
[08:31] <nado> eusu_kefuin, no problem :)
[08:31] <nado> eusu_kefuin, modprobe fbcon should remove it
[08:32] <Lou_> soreau, Several months ago, immediately after an upgrade, many gnome programs started crashing immediately upon startup. In the logs I see the same segfaults are caused by these programs. I keep hoping that the next upgrade will fix this, but so far, no. How can I get this fixed? Due to an injury, I'm typing very slow, so please be patient with me.
[08:33] <soreau> Lou_: Upgrade? From what to what? which version(s) of ubuntu
[08:34] <ynk> ActionParsnip, wow! i'm able to see my second drive and its files in /media/stick. that is too awesome!
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> hehe, wtg
[08:34] <ynk> ActionParsnip, well my internal partition anyway.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> ynk: thats fine, the uid=1000 will allow regular users to write to the partition
[08:35] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I did `rmmod fbcon'. Although the module along with its depending modules were gone, the console is still in FB.
[08:35] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Let me try another trick here.
[08:35] <nado> eusu_kefuin, you rebooted ?
[08:36] <ynk> ActionParsnip, how do remember all these nitty gritty information?? LoL, i'm writing all this stuff down.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> ynk: if yu rearrange the command and put it in /etc/fstab it will mount at bootup
[08:36] <eusu_kefuin> nado: No, I didn't.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> ynk: years of experience
[08:36] <shadowblade> anyone?
[08:36] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I have to find out how to prevent the module from being loaded in the next reboot.
[08:37] <nado> eusu_kefuin, modprobe -r module_name
[08:37] <Rytmis> nado: that doesn't prevent it from being loaded
[08:37] <Rytmis> There's a blacklist somewhere, though.
[08:37] <crdlb> !blacklist
[08:37] <Catalin> !M-Audio
[08:38] <Catalin> !M-Audio51
[08:38] <Catalin> !MAudio51
[08:38] <chris____> Is there something similar to 'cat' that spits out with syntax highlighting?
[08:38] <PolitikerNEU> Hmm ... so does anyone know where to find the installer-log of not-installable packages?
[08:38] <ynk> !ntfs-3g
[08:38] <Boohbah> !abuse
[08:38] <nado> Rytmis, are you positive about that ?
[08:39] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Google really helps here ;-) :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212592
[08:40] <Rytmis> nado: modprobe -r unloads the module from the kernel. It doesn't prevent it from being loaded again at a later time, such as the next reboot.
[08:40] <Rytmis> nado: however, the blacklist feature as ubottu said (by way of crdlb's command) does just that.
[08:40] <Lou_> soreau, I meant update. I'm using Ubuntu server 8.10 with gnome UI, using it as a desktop.
[08:40] <nado> Rytmis, does rmmod delete a module from the kernel ?
[08:40] <shijo_> we
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> nado: same thing
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> rmmod / modprobe -r are synonymous
[08:41] <shadowblade> does anyone know anything about dhcp and/or setting up a wireless router using ubuntu?
[08:41] <nado> interesting, i'd say the naming is misleading :)
[08:41] <shijo_> do you speak italian?
[08:41] <nado> thanks for the info
[08:41] <eusu_kefuin> nado: blacklisting fbcon does not help either.
[08:42] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I have to find another way.
[08:42] <vmangano> ciao
[08:42] <nado> eusu_kefuin, yeah that's what the forum was saying
[08:42] <nado> eusu_kefuin, says to reboot though
[08:42] <eusu_kefuin> nade: Hehehe.... I should have read it to the end.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> nado: just like many other commands, e.g  lsb_release -a | grep -icode    or lsb_release -c
[08:42] <Ben___> 'ive found the xorg i need so how do i modifiy the xorg?
[08:42] <shijo_> I'm italian...
[08:42] <shijo_> che non ci credete che sono italiano
[08:43] <eusu_kefuin> nado: I have rebooted the machine and it seems that blacklisting does not have any effect.
[08:43] <Rytmis> shijo_: try #ubuntu.it
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Ben___: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:43] <shijo_> più in la
[08:43] <shijo_> ok
[08:43] <Ben___> ok thank you
[08:44] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Heh, I found a file named: blacklist-framebuffer in /etc/modprobe.d. Curiously enough, vesafb is listed there! But, why not fbcon as well? Doh! ;-)
[08:46] <eusu_kefuin> Does anyone know how to prevent Ubuntu from using fbcon? I want to have a plain console display :-)
[08:46] <shadowblade> anyone??
[08:46] <Catalin> i have an audio card named M-audio Revolution 5.1 and i don`t know how to make it to hear 5.1 sound when i play movies
[08:46] <Catalin> can someone assist me please
[08:46] <nado> eusu_kefuin, in grub /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> !ics | shadowblade
[08:47] <eusu_kefuin> nado: what should I do there? I have put "nosplash nofb".
[08:47] <shadowblade> ActionParsnip, thanks, but  thats not what i'm trying to do
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Catalin: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/the-simple-way-to-get-51-surround-sound-audio-working-in-ubuntu/
[08:47] <nado> and have you run update-grub
[08:47] <Guest19849> Morning ;)
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> shadowblade: can you please clarify then
[08:48] <Lou_> soreau, nautilus is one program that crashes, but only if I  start in, or try to access /home/lat (my home directory), but if I log in as another user it does the same.
[08:48] <BrixSat> My pidgin crashes when i try to talk to some one :S solutions?
[08:48] <nado> eusu_kefuin, you can also try installing fbset - framebuffer device maintenance program
[08:48] <soreau> Lou_: I recommend you download intrepid iso or wait for jaunty and burn a clean cd and do a clean install over
[08:49] <ynk> ActionParsnip, will i be able to run programs installed on the windows side of my partition with wine? or must it be installed in wine as well?
[08:49] <shadowblade> ActionParsnip: i'm trying to set up ubuntu to function as a router - its mostly working, I think i have a configuration problem with the dhcp server or /etc/network/interfaces since it works perfectly for wired, but not for the wireless card
[08:49] <Catalin> ActionParsnip, i installed this card, the problem is that i don`t know how to make it work to hear 5.1 when i play movies and mp3`s
[08:49] <Lou_> soreau, that
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> ynk: if they are fully portable, yes, otherwise they will need installing via wine
[08:50] <jamieleshaw> Can I Emulate My Windows From Ubuntu?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> shadowblade: then the link I gave you is EXACTLY what you need
[08:50] <Boohbah> !wine | jamieleshaw
[08:50] <eusu_kefuin> nado: Running update-grub should not have any effect because Grub is supposed to get it on-the-fly. BTW, even after I have put fbcon in the blacklist, it still gets loaded. Looking at fbset manual, I think it cannot be used to turn fbcon off.
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Catalin: if you run: lspci you will see a line that identifies the chi pon the card, you cna then websearch from there
[08:52] <Lou_> soreau, that is not a good option for me as my system is highly customized. It would take months to get things set back.
[08:52] <nado> eusu_kefuin, "The framebuffer will be automatically enabled if that option is set in the BIOS and Ubuntu is detecting it. "
[08:52] <nado> eusu_kefuin, did you check your bios for an option like that ?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> nado: if you are failsafing, dont use it
[08:52] <soreau> Lou_: Well, try a live cd and see if you can get the core issue worked out
[08:53] <eusu_kefuin> nado: There is none. Moreover, my Slackware really obeys me to only use plain console. So, I bet there is a magic within Ubuntu that forces fbcon to run.
[08:53] <glitsj16> eusu_kefuin: have you tried uninstalling xserver-xorg-video-fbdev yet ?
[08:54] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: No, I haven't.
[08:54] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: But, will it have any effect on the plain console? I mean, even when I boot to recovery mode, fbcon still takes place.
[08:55] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: recovery mode == no X server running, right?
[08:55] <soreau> Lou_: If you're injured and need physical support, it may be a good idea to call locally and talk to people that may be offering the service you need given you have provisions
[08:55] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: IOW, uninstalling xserver-xorg-video-fbdev will not help.
[08:55] <glitsj16> eusu_kefuin: could very well be, it seems ubuntu ties in framebuffer as a fallback of kinds
[08:56] <corinth> I'm getting an error at every login. "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignore. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by others."
[08:56] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: Okay, I think documentation about this on the Internet is really sparse. I have to hack this on my own then ;-)
[08:56] <glitsj16> eusu_kefuin: looks like a challenge indeed
[08:57] <Lou_> soreau, I'm on a remote island in Indonesia. There is no one local that can help.
[08:57] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: Yup. The easiest one is to recompile the kernel itself. The next one will be to see whether Ubuntu can get along with that or not.
[08:57] <eusu_kefuin> glitsj16: I am recompiling it now.
[08:58] <soreau> Lou_: I think ubuntuforums.org would be the best place for you to ask
[09:00] <Lou_> soreau, ok. Thanks.
[09:00] <baxtor> hey guys anyone know how to get around the "Failed to retrieve share list from server" samba spits out when your trying to access a share thats on XP?
[09:01] <fungin> hello, does anyone know how to make a cron launched script running svn update
[09:02] <fungin> i wrote one that works perfectly when launched manually but it won't perform svn update while launched by cron
[09:03] <fungin> anyone can help?
[09:03] <Breakage> anyone use vim?
[09:03] <nado> Breakage, yes
[09:04] <Breakage> nado: know any good themes for urxvt? 88 color term
[09:04] <infiter789> I have a problem with build-essential!!! help
[09:05] <nado> Breakage, i use 'leo'
[09:05] <Breakage> nado: thanks will check it out what term you using it with?
[09:05] <nado> Breakage, xterm
[09:05] <Breakage> nado: ah 256 colors?
[09:05] <nado> Breakage, ah yes sorry
[09:06] <Breakage> nado: no probs guess ill check out xterm thanks
[09:06] <infiter789> build-essential bison flex fontforge libgl1-mesa-dev libgtk1.2 xorg-dev
[09:06] <nado> urxvt is 256 color compliant
[09:06] <nado> i'm pretty sure
[09:06] <infiter789> I have that problem build-essential bison flex fontforge libgl1-mesa-dev libgtk1.2 xorg-dev
[09:06] <MetalWolf> I'm running a linux distro that is based on ubuntu 8.04 when I try installing sendmail it tells me that it needs exim4 with a version of equal or greater than 4.69 which is installed by apt-get -f install.  Once I retry installing sendmail it uninstalls exim4 anyone have any suggestions?
[09:06] <blip-> hi, I installed pulseaudio on hardy yesterday and ran into major problems... now I'm trying to install it but it's still there..  I removed all pulse packages except for pulse0 which is required by most of the OS.    yet when I try to open alsamixer it still says *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused".   any ideas ?    thanks"
[09:06] <Breakage> nado: i think theres a patch for 256 colors
[09:07] <nado> Breakage, ah yes indeed
[09:07] <fungin> any clues how to solve that problem with the svn? I've tride to export PATH variable but it changes nothing
[09:08] <glitsj16> blip-: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 yet ? it has very detailed instructions to install/configure/debug all things pulseaudio on ubuntu ..
[09:11] <waxhead> what's the command for setting the S and K scripts for the runlevels?
[09:12] <warthog9> Is there a way to feed to the ubuntu installer "hey your repository for installation medium is at URL - don't ask the user", that's all I want to explicitly preset.  Is that possible?
[09:12] <hmw_> sysv-rc-conf waxhead
[09:12] <blip-> glitsj16: hmm no I was using another guide. but I spoke with the pulseaudio, apparently hardy is known for it's pulseaudio problems.... so I'll have a hard time getting it to work, specially with amarok and if it does, it won't work too well.   so I just gave up on it... only reason I wanted it was to be able to use my usb headset to listen to music as well as have skype conversation, and in a plug and play manner without modifying .asoundconf every time
[09:12] <blip-> *its
[09:12] <obhk___> if I install software in the latest Ubuntu update, will it also be available in the previous kernel?
[09:13] <hmw_> obhk___ should be
[09:13] <k1en> hi- how do i install system-wide fonts (i mean not thru user>.fonts)
[09:13] <obhk___> hmw_: thnx
[09:13] <hmw_> obhk___ its just another kernel running, but the same sys from the same file system
[09:14] <fungin> anyone knows how to run svn commands in cron-launched scripts?
[09:14] <waxhead> fungin: I find it best to write a shell script and put that in cron
[09:15] <magnetron> fungin→ by putting the svn commands in the cron-launched script?
[09:16] <methril|work> it's here the right place to comment some bugs in jaunty?
[09:17] <fungin> magnetron: but it won't launch svn command
[09:18] <glitsj16> methril|work: jaunty related issues are at #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <methril|work> ok
[09:18] <methril|work> thank you glitsj16
[09:18] <grandemahatma> hallo
[09:18] <k1en> how do i install fonts on intrepid?
[09:18] <fungin> magnetron: when I launch it manually it works ok, but cron stucks on svn command, what's more I have >> results of svn update to a file and though the script is launched the log file I have created is empty
[09:18] <glitsj16> methril|work: no problem
[09:18] <quibbler> k1en-> you need to copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/, however fonts in this location are kept in an individual folder name
[09:19] <tech0007> !fonts
[09:19] <magnetron> fungin→ if you show us the script we might be able to help you
[09:19] <shantzu> hello
[09:19] <grandemahatma> I have a NTFS partition (WinXP) that I want to format to EXT3.. Is it possible to move my entire /home in that partition?
[09:19] <dns53> fungin the paths are diffenrent if you run a cronjob, you no longer have many of the variables set
[09:19] <shantzu> what could i install to get the xmms interface that looks like winamp?
[09:19] <ashleyw> hey does anyone know about mounting hfs+ drives? I'm sure I'm doing it right, but it still doesn't allow writes: "sudo mount /dev/sdd4 -t hfsplus -o rw /media/time_machine/"
[09:20] <quibbler> k1en-> look here: http://www.geocities.com/ajb2k305/tutorials/font.html
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ashleyw: try -o rw,uid=1000
[09:21] <ashleyw> nope :( "touch: cannot touch `d': Read-only file system"
[09:22] <fungin> #!/bin/bash
[09:22] <fungin> echo `env` >> env.log
[09:22] <fungin> #export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[09:22] <fungin> echo `date` >> svn.log
[09:22] <fungin> conn=`ifconfig | grep ppp0`
[09:22] <fungin> if [ -z "$conn" ]
[09:22] <Ubersoldat> ashleyw: hfs+ is read only on Linux
[09:22] <fungin> then
[09:22] <fungin>         echo "connection not found" >> svn.log
[09:22] <fungin> else
[09:22] <fungin>         #echo "polaczenie jest"
[09:22] <fungin>         cd /var/www/pg_instore/
[09:22] <fungin>         echo`sudo svn update >> debugSVN.log`
[09:22] <fungin>         vers=`sudo svn update | grep "Updated to"`
[09:22] <fungin>         if [ -z "$vers" ]
[09:22] <quibbler> !enter | fungin
[09:22] <fungin>         then
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> fungin: use pastebin
[09:22] <fungin>                 #echo "brak zmian"
[09:22] <fungin>                 echo "No changes to download" >> ~/svn.log
[09:22] <fungin>         else
[09:22] <fungin>                 #echo "zmiany"
[09:22] <fungin>                 echo "$vers" >> ~/svn.log
[09:22] <tech0007> !pastebin > fungin:
[09:22] <fungin>                 sudo reboot
[09:22] <fungin>         fi
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> fungin: imagine if we all did that
[09:22] <fungin> fi
[09:22] <Boohbah> FloodBot!!!
[09:22] <fungin> sorry
[09:22] <ashleyw> Is there any way to get it to write Ubersoldat?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> fungin: if we all started pasting text, the channel would be unusable
[09:23] <Flannel> Gah.
[09:23] <Ubersoldat> google it
[09:23] <ashleyw> I have, followed all the instructions, nothing :(
[09:23] <holzmodem> what does is mean, error: "ABI file missing"? i want to compile a kernel.
[09:23] <Ubersoldat> then probably, your kernel can't handle writting to an hfs+
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | holzmodem
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> i love the use of the word "convinced" in that factoid
[09:25] <ashleyw> I suppose I can't just 'convert' it to ext3 or something, can I? (got about 400GB of data, nowhere else to move it to)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> ashleyw: i dont think so, can you write to the partition as root
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ashleyw: so you have 400Gb of data and no backup?
[09:26] <tech0007> that's the backup :-D
[09:26] <iverson0881> hey i've been having trouble with tab completion on my user, it always says compgen
[09:26] <ashleyw> it's my time machine backup (from osx) :P
[09:27] <fungin> sorry for that, I have pasted it here: http://www.mirc.net/paste/?2592
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ashleyw: you have a time machine, awesome
[09:27] <grandemahatma> I have a NTFS partition (WinXP) that I want to format to EXT3.. Is it possible to move my entire /home in that partition?
[09:28] <H_M-Ubuntu> fungin, Question... Why are you using mIRC.nets' pastebin?
[09:28] <H_M-Ubuntu> !pastebin | fungin
[09:28] <Boohbah> grandemahatma: yup
[09:28] <simplexio> grandemahatma: yes
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> grandemahatma: sure
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> grandemahatma: you could symlink the folder, or update /etc/fstab to mount the partition as /home
[09:29] <jamieleshaw> irc://freenode/nado,isnick
[09:29] <clg> HI
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !hi | clg
[09:30] <clg> everybody here
[09:30] <simplexio> grandemahatma: just remember use UUID in fstab
[09:30] <optical> Hello all, I was trying to apt-get a few packages and somehow something is severely wrong now..  even the most simplest of packages I try to install is trying to add/remove all kinds of crazy system utilities, and I keep getting a warning every single time.  Can someone see this:  http://pastebin.com/d43e6d674
[09:30] <OpticFusion> Good morning
[09:30] <sebsebseb> grandemahatma: your partition has Windows XP on it?   if so why not just delete that partition, and put a  Ext3 there instead
[09:30] <optical> I don't know how this could have happened
[09:31] <grandemahatma> sebsebseb: that's the plan
[09:31] <JGodbout1> I am trying to fix some wireless issues, and I have been told that I should "see if there are other/newer/older drives for my device". How would I go about doing this?
[09:31] <grandemahatma> but since my htfs partition is bigger than my /home partition, I was thinking to move the whole /home in that partition
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> JGodbout1: is it usb or internal?
[09:32] <JGodbout1> Internal
[09:32] <JGodbout1> For a laptop
[09:32] <sebsebseb> grandemahatma: by the way only  a few weeks now, and Ubuntu 9.04  with optional Ext4 suppourt.  and for full  Ext4 you would have to put those partitiosn on, altough there is a way to get some of it's functionality with Ext3.   and  I am not sure if the dataloss issue is sorted out yet
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> JGodbout1: run lspci  one line will identify the device, you can websearch from there
[09:32] <JGodbout1> okay
[09:32] <JGodbout1> thanks
[09:33] <H_M-Ubuntu> I have a question, without python scripts or anything like that, how can I get the name of the OS in a conkyrc file?
[09:33] <grandemahatma> I don't care about 9.04..
[09:33] <oivoodoo> Hi, everyone. I have question about installation. I install ubuntu on windows as program. update ubuntu. And now I want to destroy windows. But I want to use ubuntu system that I installed before and updated. What can I do?
[09:33] <grandemahatma> as far as I have a working environment
[09:34] <mafsi> can anyone help me to make my motherboard beep-ing? i need it for my irc client
[09:34] <iverson0881> I keep receiving this error on command line while doing tab completiion: http://pastebin.com/m752f9f9e
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: do you mean the Ubuntu release name?
[09:35] <quibbler> oivoodoo-> if you installed with wubi then if you destroy windows your ubuntu is gone ...you will have to install ubuntu again
[09:35] <ZupZupper> H_M-Ubuntu: You mean like catting /etc/ubuntu-release >> conkyrc.file
[09:36] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Yes :D
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: lsb_release -c
[09:36] <H_M-Ubuntu> Ah I could use exec
[09:36] <H_M-Ubuntu> Thanks
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> np
[09:37] <oivoodoo> quibbler-> Thanks. I try to install again.
[09:37] <chaitan3> oivoodoo, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[09:37] <H_M-Ubuntu> lsb_release -sd works just fine, thank you.
[09:37] <H_M-Ubuntu> :)
[09:38] <quibbler> oivoodoo-> you will have to have a ubuntu live cd and use the former windows partition to install to
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: http://www.mail-archive.com/bash-completion-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg00289.html
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: http://www.mail-archive.com/bash-completion-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org/msg00307.html
[09:39] <oivoodoo> chaitan3 -> It's great. I am very thankfull. I'll use LVPM.
[09:40] <defyer> hey, i'v run into an error at startup stage
[09:40] <defyer> it's  an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon
[09:40] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the links, but i'm not sure what I'm supposed to do to fix it?
[09:40] <mafsi> anyone?
[09:41] <defyer> error message was:
[09:41] <defyer> Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ZCGnbKEhmB: Connection refused
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_compgen.htm
[09:41] <clg_> what
[09:41] <defyer> any idea,guys?
[09:42] <tetonca> defyer 'ls -la /tmp | grep dbus'
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: i'd suggest copying the hidden files in /etc/skel to your home directory, backup yours first so you can roll back if needed
[09:42] <defyer> tetonca  and then?
[09:43] <Guest78648> any one
[09:43] <tetonca> well I'd stop gdm (`sh /etc/init.d/gdm stop') then remove that socket (rm) and reboot.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> defyer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/84876
[09:43] <genii> I asked in -server but it's quiet there and someone here may know. Is there some limit on number of post-up directives allowed in /etc/network/interfaces ? I had quite a few in there to correct my routing but only the first few were being executed for some reason. Then I copy/pasted them out to a script and ran that from a post-up directive which worked. No order was changed, etc.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest78648: wassup?
[09:44] <defyer> ok, i'll give it a try
[09:44] <tetonca> also take note of the output of ls
[09:44] <H_M-Ubuntu> ${execpi 10000 lsb_release -sd} worked very effectively :D
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> nice
[09:45] <tetonca> if it doesn't change ownership or permissions on the socket for example after the reboot
[09:46] <thefeds> how do I set it to automatically log into root?
[09:46] <ikonia> thefeds: you don't - thats not a good idea
[09:46] <ikonia> thefeds: the root password on ubuntu locked
[09:46] <thefeds> but I want to
[09:46] <thefeds> how do I unlock it
[09:47] <tetonca> linux always used to wipe /tmp clean before starting up or before shutting down (I have forgotten which).
[09:47] <ikonia> thefeds: if you don't know how to unlock it I strongly advise you not to
[09:47] <thefeds> Ok, I'm ignoring you're advice. How do you unlock it?
[09:47] <adhoc> tetonca: some linux distros. most dont
[09:47] <Boohbah> thefeds: why would you want to do something like that?
[09:47] <thefeds> your*
[09:47] <thefeds> because I like it like windows
[09:47] <thefeds> running as root
[09:48] <adhoc> tetonca: only those that mount /tmp in tmpfs
[09:48] <ikonia> thefeds: sudo passwd root - good luck
[09:48] <thefeds> how do you make it auto login to root?
[09:48] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, You wouldn't happen to be able to answer one more question? Is it possible to find out the CPU product name from a terminal command, or in conky? I need it to return in a form similar to this: "Intel Core 2 Quad"
[09:48] <ikonia> thefeds: thats done through the "gdm" manager, if you go into system->administration->login window you'll be able to set it
[09:49] <fungin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142659/ anyone can help?
[09:49] <elky> thefeds, generally if you dont know how to enable root, then you probably dont have the skill level to make it a wise move
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you may need to grep a bit
[09:49] <koshar3> ﻿thefeds there is no root acount in ubuntu
[09:49] <thefeds> I know passwd, I thought ubuntu drastically changed it
[09:49] <H_M-Ubuntu> Hmmm is there another way?
[09:49] <thefeds> so you couldn't use passwd
[09:49] <ikonia> thefeds: no - it just locks it
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !roo | thefeds
[09:49] <hmw_> after installing kubuntu-desktop i tried to get rid of it and removed stuff, to clean up the gnome menu. Epiphany was deinstalled, too. I used synaptic to install it again, but the menu entry doesnt show up. I'd like to know, what went wrong, and how to get that menu entry (automatically)?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !root | thefeds
[09:50] <runlevelten> I can't help wondering, if a kernel module doesn't load or something and X doesn't start...
[09:50] <quibbler> thefeds-> please read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Usage
[09:50] <JGodbout> I'm trying to fix my wireless so it can connect to my school network. Some things that are worth noting are: It always works at some places in the school (history building), some places it rarely even detects the network, and in the library, it sometimes connects, and when it does, it will often send my kernel into panic mode. Should I do something like get my Windows wireless driver and use it on Ubuntu? Or should I try to update my drivers
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: its disabled for a million fantastic reasons, its not disabled just to annoy you
[09:50] <thefeds> Eugh I just want to run as root
[09:50] <Juhaz> don't bother trying to talk sense to him, he already got half an hour of convincing on #fedora, but the idiot thinks he's invincible and nothing could possibly happen to _HIM_ of all people.
[09:50] <thefeds> I don't care
[09:50] <ikonia> thefeds: then run ass root
[09:50] <runlevelten> ...is it strictly necessary for ubuntu to walk users through *destroying their xorg.conf* with a nice user friendly interface?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: theres nothing you cant do with sudo / gksudo / kdesudo that root cannot do
[09:50] <runlevelten> just because a driver didn't load or something?
[09:51] <koshar3> thefeds then run FC
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: then use sudo / gksudo and it will run as root
[09:51] <Final> thefeds ur a fat ass :$
[09:51] <quibbler> ikonia-> was that a freudian slip?
[09:51] <ikonia> Final: stop that now
[09:51] <ikonia> quibbler: yes
[09:51] <Final> ROFLROFL
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Final: keep it civil
[09:51] <Final> Shot me
[09:51] <Final> Is this for ubernerds?
[09:51] <ikonia> Final: no - final warning, be polite to people
[09:52] <ikonia> Final: this is a support channel for ubuntu discussion
[09:52]  * ActionParsnip shots Final
[09:52] <Final> :$
[09:52]  * Final Dead
[09:52] <thefeds> I know it's a bad idea. But I like how windows does it
[09:52] <thefeds> run as root
[09:52] <Final> Is ubuntu hot?
[09:52] <JGodbout> Can anyone help me with my above wireless problem?
[09:52] <ikonia> thefeds: so do it
[09:52] <ikonia> Final: it's a SUPPORT channel only
[09:52] <clearscreen> Final: no it's cold
[09:52] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: the tab completion works with certain cli programs like nano but doesn't work with ls or cd, any idea? I already tried replacing the skeleton files for my user and relogged in
[09:52] <ikonia> clearscreen: please don't feed offtopic rambling
[09:52] <Final> Funny dude
[09:52] <hmw_> thefeds: logging in as root to gnome can cause serious trouble, dont do it. If you dont like to use sudo all the time, there is a switch to become root, even if your root account is still disabled
[09:52] <Final> Get a life
[09:52] <shambat> running a syslog-ng server, which has stopped working for some reason, when I go to delete the logfile, it tells me: rm: cannot remove `local0': Read-only file system .... are the files mounted as a filesystem?
[09:52] <Final> LOL
[09:53] <ikonia> Final: I'm not laughing - please stop now
[09:53] <Final> Im bou to cry dude
[09:53] <hmw_> thefeds: see sudo man page
[09:53] <Final> Your like 40 year old?
[09:53] <tetonca> run as root and then hang around in irc evangelizing your epiphany!
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: they are 2 characters long, tab complete needs 3
[09:53] <Jimi_Neutral> Anyone awake here with a good knowledge of Clonezilla?
[09:53] <giorgoskoz> hi
[09:54] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: hmm but why on other ubuntu computers I have, cd,ls work fine? they're all running ubuntu hard heron
[09:54] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: ha ha indeed at time zones!
[09:54] <thefeds> Why is the eclipse package so hopelessly out of date?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: so you have no oter apps that start with c?
[09:54] <thefeds> it's 3 years old
[09:54] <ikonia> thefeds: you can request an update,
[09:54] <fungin> I've pasted the script here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142659/ anyone can help?
[09:54] <thefeds> how?
[09:54] <Jimi_Neutral> sebsebseb: :)
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: i have 117 apps starting with c so it cant possibly tab complete cd from c
[09:55] <JGodbout> I'm trying to fix my wireless so it can connect to my school network. Some things that are worth noting are: It always works at some places in the school (history building), some places it rarely even detects the network, and in the library, it sometimes connects, and when it does, it will often send my kernel into panic mode. Should I do something like get my Windows wireless driver and use it on Ubuntu? Or should I try to update my drivers
[09:55] <ikonia> thefeds: if you log a request through launchpad.net
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: for a start there is clear
[09:55] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: but I'm trying to tab complete the directories and file names for example i want to navigate to some directory
[09:55] <NoTiTo> hi all
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: then you may need to use ./ to specify the files start in the PWD or use absolute paths starting at /
[09:56] <thefeds> So I just contact the maintainer
[09:57] <lucky> and hopefully they're still interested in maintaining the package
[09:57] <NoTiTo> if I install ubuntu on a 2nd, dedicated harddrive, would I need to change boot sequence on the bios settings to switch between windows and ubuntu?
[09:58] <lucky> NoTiTo: only if Grub isn't loaded from the first or second hard drive (which everone you chose the BIOS to boot)
[09:58] <metalfan_> hi
[09:58] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: If i try "cd /ho" it gives me this http://pastebin.com/m529b84e5 which is similar to the error I'm already having except "ho" in single quotes
[09:58] <quibbler> NoTiTo-> no you will startup in grub and choose what you wish to start
[09:58] <metalfan_> why does "sudo aptitude search avrdude" not find avrdude, its listed here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/avrdude/5.5-3
[09:58] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: I tried typing that command to autocomplete /home directory, but I have the same problem with file names as well
[09:58] <ikonia> thefeds: just log a request to the team that maintains it
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: can you tab complete the compgen command
[09:59] <thefeds> only one maintainer
[09:59] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: if I type comp and press tab I get a list of different programs and if i continue typing a few more letters it finds compgen
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ok thats good
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: did you copy over the files from /etc/skel?
[10:00] <Mear> Does anyone here use the ATI catalyst 9.3 drivers on 8.10 successfully?
[10:00] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Well cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -m1 CPU basically does the job, but I need to ONLY get the CPU name, not the "model name      :" and other stuff
[10:01] <fungin> anyone can help me with that script I've pasted? It is very urgent, I need that to complete ticket from my boss
[10:01] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: Yes I copied over .bash_logout, .bashrc, and .profile
[10:01] <H_M-Ubuntu> Any ideas to bring it down to just "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU?"
[10:01] <NoTiTo> can I install grub as an option when installing ubuntu?
[10:02] <H_M-Ubuntu> NoTiTo, Yes you can
[10:02] <ikonia> NoTiTo: grub is installed by ubuntu by default
[10:02] <H_M-Ubuntu> NoTiTo, you can disable it in advanced options at last page of the installation (Summery page)
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: hmm, if you create a new user does it do the same with that user?
[10:02] <pretender> wanting to create a DVD with DeVeDe without a menu how can I do this
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | iverson0881
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you will need to pipe the output through a grep
[10:03] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: Let me try
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[10:03] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip: I don't know the parameters to remove the other things.... And mine works better, "cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -m1 CPU"
[10:04] <H_M-Ubuntu> modelname returns four things
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you'll have to work out a way to carve the first bit off. i'm not sure myself, try asking in #bash
[10:04] <H_M-Ubuntu> Ok thanks for your help
[10:04] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: I created a new user and tab completion works fine
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: ok so now we know a little more
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: log back in as the original user
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: sudo chown -R $USER /home/$USER; sudo chmod -R 750 /home/$USER
[10:06] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: what will that do?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: make you the owner of all your own files as well as grant proper permissions to then (you full access, group read and execute, everybody else no access)
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: i dunno, mine simply displays the cpu model if you try it
[10:08] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: okay I run the command exactly as you wrote it and I still have the same problem, do I need to log in and out again?
[10:08] <H_M-Ubuntu> sed -n $'s/model name[\t ]*:[ \t]*//p' /proc/cpuinfo works slightly
[10:09] <fungin> anyone can help with the issue I've presented?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: no, should be fine
[10:11] <kamaz> help me
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: works perfect here, nice
[10:11] <quibbler> !ask | kamaz
[10:12] <Arsonide> I just installed Ubuntu and I'm trying to get dual display working correctly, I set my left monitor to 1024x768, and my right one to 1680x1050, but everything is all crazy looking now. It gave me some popup when I was making the change about a "Virtual Resolution", and I hit OK...but I'm not sure what's going on.
[10:12] <NoTiTo> thankyou guys
[10:12] <Arsonide> The right monitor is almost completely unusable
[10:12] <Ubersoldat> fungin: take all the "sudo" commands and execute the script as root or with sudo
[10:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip: I have a quad core though, so it outputs 4 lines... Also, I don't want Q6700 and the frequency.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/f75daaa32
[10:12] <ant01n3> Hi!
[10:12] <ant01n3> Is there a french ubuntu channel?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !fr
[10:12] <H_M-Ubuntu> Oh it works for you :D
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: unicore cpu
[10:13] <hmw_> Arsonide: try setting your right monitor to 1024 or configure it to be above the first screen.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: can you pastebin your output
[10:13] <H_M-Ubuntu> Sure, one sec
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you may need to output to a file, then see if multiples exist and perform logic oon that
[10:14] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: any other ideas why it doesn't work?
[10:14] <Arsonide> hmw_: It's asking me to log out again, be right back.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: not sure duder, maybe someone else can chip in, or ask later
[10:14] <defyer> error remains...An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-session.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> iverson0881: tried a reboot?
[10:15] <iverson0881> ActionParsnip: Yeah I have tried rebooting, the only workaround i'm seeing is me recreating this user, but it'll be a pain to do
[10:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m70dbb23b
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you could make the grep find only the first instance
[10:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> Tried
[10:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> For some reason it failed
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/using-grep-to-find-only-first-instance-139610/
[10:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> You can use -m normally
[10:17] <H_M-Ubuntu> But the problem is, adding the |grep means I need a "PATERN" to look for
[10:17] <sebastian2> hi, I've a problem installing grub on a ICH9 fake-raid
[10:18] <ikonia> fake raid is not a good idea at all
[10:18] <sebastian2> trying to install grub in a chroot
[10:18] <ikonia> sebastian2: grub should always go on physical devices not fake raid devices
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: try -N too
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: http://uw713doc.sco.com/en/man/html.1/grep.1.html
[10:18] <sebastian2> yeh
[10:18] <sebastian2> grub-install  /dev/sda says: /dev/mapper/isw_didbiagabc_Volume06 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[10:18] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, I was using the MAN pages :)
[10:18] <tetonca> defyer try creating a new test account unless gdm login is totally unusable.
[10:19] <ikonia> sebastian2: possibly because your trying to do it within a chroot environment
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: apparently not all greps support it
[10:19] <ikonia> sebastian2: do it outside the chroot environment and don't use grub-install
[10:19] <sebastian2> ok
[10:19] <sebastian2> and instead of grub-install?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: For example, grep -N 1 '^main' .c would print the first instance of a line beginning with ``main'' in all files that match the expansion of ``.c''.
[10:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> OH excuse me, not man pages for it, I meant --help
[10:19] <H_M-Ubuntu> Sorry.
[10:19] <ikonia> sebastian2: use the grub shell
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: i'm asking jeeves, he's smart
[10:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> Lawl Ok
[10:20] <Marsjanin> Hello. I need to get somehow a file creation date to a variable, to mkdir folders based on that date, then move files to them. Please, help me...
[10:20] <sebastian2> ikonia: thx
[10:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well i'm a wizard with C and C++... And python.... and Java.... But i'm new to programming on Linux
[10:20] <harpreet> Has anyone run virtual machine? is it fast enough to tolerate? is it possible to install applications on virtual OS and would that run fine?
[10:20] <defyer> hi, tetonca, this time the error msg is:
[10:20] <sebastian2> ikonia: looking for a neat howto ..
[10:20] <H_M-Ubuntu> And visual basic... sadly.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: similar kinda mindset
[10:20] <defyer> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-djBDNA4ZHg: Connection refused)
[10:20] <thefeds> don't you think the ubuntu theme is ugly?
[10:21] <defyer> actually, there are 2 alike error msg dialogs
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: its fully customisable, you dont even have to use metacity
[10:21] <H_M-Ubuntu> I'm making progress though.. I was able to port over some applications I made using GTK+ on Windows, and they work. Still; Linux is rather daunting.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: you can use LXDE or Openbox
[10:21] <hmw_> !ot | thefeds
[10:21] <Arsonide> Alright so I was trying to get dual display working and now it's completely broken and I can't even see the user interface of gnome anymore to undo my changes...I'm in Windows now.
[10:22] <Arsonide> The monitors both scramble basically to the point where I can't see anything.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Arsonide: boot to recovery root console and run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then reboot to ubuntu
[10:22] <Arsonide> How do I start in "safe mode" to fix this.
[10:22] <hmw_> Arsonide: uhm... does it look like bad refresh rates?
[10:22] <harpreet> Has anyone run virtual machine? is it fast enough to tolerate? is it possible to install applications on virtual OS and would that run fine?
[10:22] <defyer> yep, i'll create another account and then login
[10:22]  * Marsjanin goes also on #offtopic
[10:23] <harpreet> abey o matthai
[10:23] <Arsonide> ActionParsnip: What will that do?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: sure, they are ok, depends on config and designated resources
[10:23] <hmw_> harpreet: usually apps run quite fine in VMs, but I have no expirience with games and such. Guess they wouldnt run too well. People also are having trouble with certain drivers sometimes. Try it.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Arsonide: reset xorg.conf to failsafe and backup the current one
[10:23] <hmw_> Arsonide: how did you reconfigure the right screen?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: games run badly, the new virtualbox has an opengl implementation but ive not heard anything
[10:25] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: hmw_: I want to run some office applications such as simply accounting etc. for a client, i want to make sure client does not lose data.
[10:25] <thefeds> I mean the shit brown theme of ubuntu it ugly imo
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: then it'll be fine, does the app not run via wine?
[10:25] <hmw_> harpreet: should do well. Expect some lag.
[10:25] <sebastian2> ikonia: /boot/grub is on /dev/mapper/isw_didbiagabc_Volume06 -- is this the correct grub> root - command?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: keep it PG
[10:25] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: It is too slow in wine
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: then try a virtualbox
[10:26] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: hmw_: thank you very much
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: you can fully customise gnome to your liking
[10:26] <ikonia> sebastian2: look at your /boot/grub/device.map to see how your devices are mapped out according to grub
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox | harpreet
[10:26] <ikonia> thefeds: control your lagnauge please
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: you will be installing windows on linux so you will need a license
[10:26] <Drago84> it
[10:26] <hmw_> thefeds: try gnomeart.org
[10:27] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: License for windows right?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: yes as you will be installing it to th VM
[10:27] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: wouldn't that license that originally came with their pc, when it was factory installed, work?
[10:27] <sebastian2> ikonia: (fd0)   /dev/fd0 \n (hd0)   /dev/sda \n (hd1)   /dev/sdb -> sda + sdb is my raid
[10:27] <datruth> I can connect to my open vpn how can I make my ubuntu system use the vpn for internet traffic?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: depends on the license you bought, windows licenses are weird
[10:28] <sebastian2> ikonia: fd0 is my root then?
[10:28] <ikonia> sebastian2: so you want to put grub on sda
[10:28] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: true
[10:28] <sebastian2> kk
[10:28] <ikonia> sebastian2: no, thats your floppy drive
[10:28] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: then i'll have to investigate on it
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: sounds like it, did you get wine from the wine repo
[10:29] <fungin> Ubersoldat: it works when I launch it from shell, it still won't work if I put it in the crontab
[10:29] <NoTiTo> ubuntu supports SATA hard drives right?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: it seems slicker than the one on the ubuntu repo imho
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> NoTiTo: sure
[10:29] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: I got it from ubuntu repo, should have tried other way
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> NoTiTo: as long as your SATA controller is installed correctly, yes
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> harpreet: this may give better performance of the app
[10:30] <sebastian2> ikonia: setup (hd0) ->  "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[10:31] <hmw_> harpreet: i heard, ms gives away virtual machine images for free. You cant customize them fully to your wants, but for running normal apps, these free images should do fine. (VMWare)
[10:31] <sebastian2> ikonia: maybe i have to unmount sda1 .. w8
[10:31] <utakbiya> hello to all! how can i see all the menus on my openoffice 3 i just set the visual effects to normal and suddenly it doesnt show up..but when I set it to none it has no problem..How is that? Thanks in advance
[10:32] <ikonia> sebastian2: mounting doesn't matter
[10:32] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I upgraded my laptop (T43p) to Jaunty and now it won't boot: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/f0207247-[...] does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"  (and I get busybox).  What do I do?
[10:32] <ikonia> sebastian2: what type of raid are you using ? raid 0, 1, 5 ?
[10:32] <harpreet> hmw_: MS giving something for free!!!haha
[10:32] <harpreet> ActionParsnip: thank you, i'm checking
[10:33] <jonaskoelker> before "ALERT! [...]", it said "\tCheck cryptopts=source= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline\n\tor missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev"
[10:33] <sebastian2> ikonia: RAID0
[10:34]  * NoTiTo is writting the disc image then we start...
[10:34] <ikonia> sebastian2: can't do it then
[10:35] <ikonia> sebastian2: the /boot file system can't be on raid 0
[10:35] <jonaskoelker> no help?
[10:35] <sebastian2> wtf
[10:35] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: no patience ?
[10:35] <jonaskoelker> no ;)
[10:35] <ikonia> sebastian2: control your language
[10:35] <sebastian2> ikonia: sry
[10:36] <sebastian2> ikonia: the entire disk is a ICH9 fake-raid0
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> sebastian2: use a small SD card to hold /boot ;)
[10:36] <ikonia> sebastian2: /boot need to be on an accesabilie partiton type -
[10:37] <lucky> so i enabled SCIM and now my compose key doesn't work anymore.
[10:37] <jonaskoelker> which cryptopts should I put in my cmdline?
[10:37] <DamienCassou> I have some graphical problems with the very latest updates on Jaunty. Where can I talk about these?
[10:37] <ikonia> DamienCassou: #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <ziroday> DamienCassou: #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <DamienCassou> thank you
[10:37] <jonaskoelker> lucky: IIRC, that's just how SCIM works.  Go tell them you want better compose key support
[10:38] <DamienCassou> /join #ubuntu+1
[10:38] <rox> hello, i'm a long time debian user and i am trying to configure an ubuntu installation for my purposes and i would like to learn, how can i start networking without starting the default gui
[10:38] <ikonia> rox: networking comes up at run level 2, as does the gui, remove the gui from runlevel 2 or manually start the networking scripts
[10:38] <ikonia> rox: worsk teh same as debian - so if you're a long time debian user this won't be a problem
[10:38] <rox> ikonia: the usual /etc/init.d/networking start doesn't do the job
[10:39] <rox> ikonia: are there other networking scripts?
[10:39] <ikonia> rox: and what does it complain of
[10:39] <micca> Q: running ubuntu on a laptop... just transmigrated again to linux.. 1st time ubuntu (was a mandrake guy back int he days.. hated red hat etc ;p)
[10:39] <jonaskoelker> rox: put stanzas for your devices in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:39] <rox> ikonia: nothing, it just doesn't do the job
[10:39] <ikonia> rox: so what component is missing ?
[10:39] <rox> ikonia: and there are no interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:39] <ikonia> rox: is the interface plumbed, does it have an ip, is it up ? what's missing
[10:40] <jonaskoelker> rox: if they're not there, Network Manager will handle networking, and that's The Recommended Choice (tm) (not that I think it's necessarily the best choice...)
[10:40] <ikonia> rox: ok - so that means it was configured using nmapplet in gnome - as you're not using the desktop you'll need to configure an interface in the interfaces file
[10:40] <micca> Q: oops.. Q are two in fact:1 .. is it ok to set up an irc server on ubuntu on a laptop (good enough specwise really) and two. I have a HP with that remote control thingy.. any advice how to use it in ubuntu if possible?
[10:40] <ziroday> micca: err is your laptop always on and has a static ip?
[10:40] <ikonia> micca: 1.) you need to work out if it's good enough, you know your own spec and the load it will put on it 2.) use lirc for your remote control
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> micca: 1. should be fine 2. check hcl online as well as lsusb and lspci output for if its supported by the OS
[10:41] <rox> ikonia: ok, so if i configure an interfaces file, llike i'm used to, will it  clash with this nmapplet thing, when my GF logs in to her desktop?
[10:41] <ikonia> rox: no you should be fine
[10:41] <micca> ziroday, YES.. ALWAYS ON .. no.. not static as such.. but can use dmz and/or dynamic dns.. (ps. the irc server would be a private one.. not public so even if its down once in a while, memebers wouldnt be bothered as such)
[10:42] <rox> ikonia && jonaskoelker: thank you for your advice
[10:42] <vdk> hey helo
[10:42] <jonaskoelker> rox: you're most welcome :)
[10:42] <micca> ok, thank you ikonia, ActionParsnip and ziroday ... I am not sure ActionParsnip , what hcl and the output (havent used linux in AGES)
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[10:43] <micca> thank you ^^
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> micca: windows has an hcl too
[10:43] <micca> (ye ok.. but I didn't know the mnemonic)
[10:43] <micca> (I'll pretend i'm Arthur Dent and haven't been by Earth in ages.. ,p)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[10:44] <rox> another question; i installed dwm for myself, would perhaps the most clean solution be that i just put this network manager thing in my dwm startup script?
[10:44] <rox> will it even run without the fat desktop?
[10:45] <ikonia> rox: if you can incorperate it into your desktop, sure
[10:45] <yana_> hi.why the command su doen't work
[10:45] <ikonia> !root > yana_
[10:45] <ikonia> !sudo > yana_
[10:45] <ikonia> yana_: check those two messages from ubottu
[10:45] <yana_> in my ubuntu
[10:45] <ziroday> yana_: do sudo -i if you want a root shell
[10:45] <ikonia> !away > Squarc|afk
[10:45] <rox> ikonia: ok, just one last question - what executable are we talking about?
[10:46] <ikonia> rox: nmapplet
[10:46] <rox> ikonia: ok, thank you very much
[10:46] <rox> if i succeed, i'll perhaps put together a little howto
[10:47] <yana_> i want to make root permissions to my lamp server
[10:47] <yana_> and i cant
[10:47] <yana_> using su
[10:47] <ziroday> yana_: see !root ikonia sent you regarding su
[10:48] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ su
[10:48] <yana_> Password:
[10:48] <yana_> su: Authentication failure
[10:48] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ Squarc|afk
[10:48] <yana_> bash: afk: command not found
[10:48] <yana_> bash: Squarc: command not found
[10:48] <FloodBot2> yana_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <micca> Ok.. Q3/4: Totem was working with .avi files the works... but now it seems to die when I try to run them (get a grayed out window)... can't run any update... ideas? (i downloaded vlc/vlc/nox in the meantime)... 2. this is not an ubuntu Quesiton as such.. just wondering if nedit is still around and if it is as decent as I found it to be back in the days?
[10:49] <yana_> i dont understand .please help
[10:49] <JLay> nick JLay
[10:49] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ su
[10:49] <yana_> Password:
[10:49] <yana_> su: Authentication failure
[10:49] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ Squarc|afk
[10:49] <yana_> bash: afk: command not found
[10:49] <FloodBot2> yana_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <micca> yana... try sudo instead
[10:49] <yana_> bash: Squarc: command not found
[10:50] <yana_> i am not using paste
[10:50] <micca> yana... try sudo instead
[10:50] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: re - I've some additional questions:
[10:50] <ikonia> yana_: you have been sent the link of what to do
[10:50] <ikonia> yana_: read the links from ubottu
[10:50] <micca> they have a bot in place here when you enter too many subsequent lines , you will get ' banned' temp for flooding
[10:51] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: If i shrink the fake-raid
[10:51] <ikonia> sebastian2: please ask, we are here to help
[10:51] <RachedTN> hello, My system crash, and I wanna to report the crash to launchpad  (I know that there is a crash report) but I don't know how ?
[10:51] <micca> Ok.. Q3/4: Totem was working with .avi files the works... but now it seems to die when I try to run them (get a grayed out window)... can't run any update... ideas? (i downloaded vlc/vlc/nox in the meantime)... 2. this is not an ubuntu Quesiton as such.. just wondering if nedit is still around and if it is as decent as I found it to be back in the days?
[10:51] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: I'll have a big Raid0
[10:51] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: and 2 small partitions
[10:51] <ikonia> micca: if it's not an ubuntu question, please don't ask here
[10:52] <micca> well totem question was as such as it was bundled with ubuntu.. but ok... thank you
[10:52] <Matr|X> im sorry but i cant chnage my desktop wqallpaper
[10:52] <yana_> when sudo instead is not working.after entering password i press enter button and nothing happpens it sayes that command not found
[10:52] <DawnLight> hello. does anyone know how to debug the message filters in evolution?
[10:52] <Matr|X> wht's up with my box
[10:52] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: will this work?
[10:52] <ikonia> yana_: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[10:52] <micca> WOW... yana.. thats weird.. if sudo is not working as a command :O
[10:52] <ikonia> sebastian2: if your small partitions are not on fake raid, sure
[10:52] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ su
[10:52] <yana_> Password:
[10:52] <yana_> su: Authentication failure
[10:52] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$ Squarc|afk
[10:52] <yana_> bash: afk: command not found
[10:52] <FloodBot2> yana_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <yana_> bash: Squarc: command not found
[10:52] <ziroday> Matr|X: and what point does it fail?
[10:52] <Matr|X> hello
[10:52] <ikonia> yana_: if you paste that again - you will be removed
[10:52] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: mounting the small sda partition as /boot
[10:53] <Matr|X> i right click on desktop
[10:53] <ikonia> sebastian2: yup, good idea, I would still strongly advise you against using fake raid
[10:53] <ikonia> yana_: pleaes show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[10:53] <Matr|X> change desktop background
[10:53] <Matr|X> i chose the photo i want
[10:53] <micca> ikonia i think she is not unbanned yet
[10:53] <micca> or he
[10:53] <Matr|X> but i click but desktop no response
[10:53] <ziroday> Matr|X: on one line please
[10:53] <ikonia> 10:53 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-zb %yana_!*@*] by FloodBot2
[10:53] <yana_> how to shouw u Ikona?
[10:53] <ikonia> micca: it's there
[10:53] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: the fake-raid IS working
[10:53] <Matr|X> ok
[10:53] <ikonia> yana_: show me (cut and paste) the 1 line it outputs in this window
[10:53] <yana_> how to show the output?
[10:54] <vieq> hello all
[10:54] <ziroday> Matr|X: so is there a wallpaper on your desktop currently?
[10:54] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: and I think VISTA wouldn't like it
[10:54] <micca> (sorry ikonia.. whats there?)
[10:54] <Matr|X> yes
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> sebastian2: get real raid, then watch the world flyyyy
[10:54] <ikonia> micca: yana_ was unbanned
[10:54] <vieq> guys how ca I list the packages in a given repository only
[10:54] <micca> got ya
[10:54] <Matr|X> ther one from long time
[10:54] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, I SOLVED IT! perl -e 'while (<>) { if (m/model name\s+: (.*) CPU/gi) { print "$1\n";exit; }}' /proc/cpuinfo
[10:54] <H_M-Ubuntu> It works for my Intel CPU perfectly,.
[10:54] <H_M-Ubuntu> :D
[10:54] <yana_> yana@yana-desktop:~$su
[10:54] <sebastian2> ActionParsnip, ikonia: thanks then
[10:55] <ziroday> Matr|X: okay, can you run gnome-appearance-properties from the command line, try to change your background and then pastebin the output please
[10:55] <ziroday> !pastebin | Matr|X
[10:55] <ikonia> yana_: this will be the last time I ask
[10:55] <micca> by the way.. this is a grub question I guess.. but when I updated ubuntu , I got a new kernel.. I wish to remove old kernel.. removing them from menu.lst is not enough right? can I go ahead though and just delete the kernel from /boot?
[10:55] <ikonia> yana_: show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: sweet move dude :D
[10:55] <vieq> sudo apt-cache stats do not do the trick
[10:55] <Matr|X> ziroday plz im no good english :(
[10:55] <magnetron> micca→ just remove the package with synaptic
[10:55] <ikonia> micca: if you just remove the kernel pacckage with the package manager, grub will get updated automatically for you
[10:55] <ziroday> Matr|X: what is your first language?
[10:55] <Matr|X> how i run it from the command line
[10:55] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, What does it return for you? Could you pastebin it real quick? I thought you were on AMD
[10:56] <micca> thank you magnetron and ikonia
[10:56] <Matr|X> arbic but im little english , but im new to ubuntu just two month
[10:56] <RachedTN> I am running ubuntu 8.04 and this is the third time in a week that my computer shut down suddenly, when I look in /var/crash : i don't find a report crash, dos that mean that this not a ubuntu crash ?
[10:56] <nperry> !amd64
[10:56] <Matr|X> so if u would like to give me the command line
[10:56] <malv> any reason why firefox thinks I am British while performing spell check?
[10:56] <ziroday> Matr|X: you can speak in arabic in #ubuntu-arabic
[10:56] <ziroday> !arabic | Matr|X
[10:57] <Matr|X> no
[10:57] <vieq> Matr|X, join linuxac.org forums if you want help with ubuntu
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: let me try real quick
[10:57] <Matr|X> i just want the command line who i can use with
[10:57] <nQb> there is a Danish support channel too ?
[10:57] <micca> ok.. embarrassing... im in the package manager.. i search for kernel in installed field.. (and all) but can't find kernels :$
[10:57] <ziroday> Matr|X: gnome-appearance-properties
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !dansih
[10:57] <sebsebseb> !dk
[10:57] <Matr|X> ok
[10:57] <magnetron> micca→ they have "linux" in their name
[10:57] <vieq> guys guys, how can I list the packages of a given repository
[10:58] <vieq> sudo apt-cache stats do not do the trick
[10:58] <micca> :$
[10:58] <Boohbah> malv: because the default locale is set to en_GB
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> vieq: you can view all packages available, not sure of filtering from which repo
[10:58] <RachedTN> ubottu, Matr|X : ubuntu-arabic is not active, please join #ubuntu-tn for the arabic support (it's the only official arabic LoCo team)
[10:58] <Boohbah> malv: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html
[10:58] <fungin> hi, I'm trying to put that script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142659/ to crontab (*/5 * * * * cd path ; sudo ./script >> logfile) and it won't perform svn commands, output files are empty, yet thescript works if I launch it in the shell. What can I do to make it work, please, it is urgent case
[10:59] <vieq> k thanks ActionParsnip
[10:59] <magnetron> fungin→ "sudo"? you can't put sudo in a cron job
[10:59] <Matr|X> wow no out output
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: i get zero output
[11:00] <Boohbah> fungin: yes, no sudo, the script will run as the same user as cron, which is root if you are using the system /etc/crontab. also get rid of the cd and use the full path
[11:00] <Rytmis> magnetron: well, technically you can, and if the sudoers file says you can perform such-and-such without a password, it even works. :P
[11:00] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Oh really? (Sadness)
[11:00] <nperry> Hey all, Just install AMD64 on my upgraded rig. Trying to install the network card, now this has worked with i386 ive got the 64bit .inf but i'm getting this error. WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release
[11:00] <Rytmis> magnetron: not saying that's a good idea, but...
[11:00] <fungin> magnetron: I did that with other scripts that weren't working and theywork with sudo in cron
[11:00] <H_M-Ubuntu> Well...... It works here!! So i'ma use
[11:00] <micca> oh dear.. this is so bad... even with linux I can't seem to find it :(
[11:00] <crusader_> #cagayandeorocity
[11:03] <Rytmis> micca: binary kernel packages start with linux-image-
[11:04] <micca> thx rytmis.. but isn't the search keyword context free (I mean shoudl work as a subset of the string)
[11:04] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Hey bud
[11:05] <Daejeo> hello anyone from Europe? i want to test my DID number
[11:05] <micca> hmmmmm... still says no match :/
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Daejeo
[11:05] <Rytmis> micca: it should, far as I know. Are you using Synaptic or what?
[11:06] <micca> ye i think so.. (the applications -> add/remove GUI)
[11:06] <Rytmis> I think that's Synaptic. I don't have an ubuntu here to try it with, though. :/
[11:06] <micca> and got all applications selected... ' ALL' is highlighted and i search for 'linux-image'
[11:07] <Rytmis> So you're looking for kernel packages in your list of installed packages?
[11:07] <micca> ye i think it is.. but oddly enough it just won't show kernels .. don't know what I am doing wrong :/
[11:07] <micca> yes Rytmis
[11:07] <quibbler> micca-> it uses sub string of name not description
[11:07] <nperry> !channels
[11:07] <micca> (sounds uber noob.. then again> I am at this moment.. been 7 yrs since I wrote a shell script)
[11:07] <Rytmis> micca: I can't remember the GUI, but I do know the command line: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:08] <micca> quibbler, OK.. but what shoudl I do then.. and ok Rytmis let me get back to you on that one
[11:08] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know the name of a good free partition program that works with windows, after you have installed windows using the whole disk?
[11:08] <micca> yap.. showing them.. so how do i uninstall using dpkg?
[11:08] <robindesbois05> allo
[11:08] <quibbler> micca-> search for linux-image
[11:08] <Rytmis> micca: you uninstall using apt-get
[11:08] <micca> quibbler .. I did.. nothing cam up
[11:09] <Rytmis> micca: apt-get remove packagename
[11:09] <micca> ok so like apt-get uninstall kernel-image-name ye?
[11:09] <micca> thx
[11:09] <micca> :D
[11:09] <Rytmis> :)
[11:09] <micca> ill get back to you on that one
[11:09] <micca> (hope i get the right onew ;p)
[11:10] <robindesbois05> how to speak french here ?
[11:10] <ziroday> !fr | robindesbois05
[11:10] <robindesbois05> merci thanks
[11:10] <quibbler> micca-> apt-cache search linux-image
[11:11] <micca> ok got  27.7.16, 27-11.14 and 27 I guess i only need thelatest ye?
[11:11] <Rytmis> quibbler: dpkg -l is better if you want to list the packages you've got installed. :)
[11:11] <micca> thank you quibbler : that would be in a terminal ye
[11:11]  * Rytmis quibbles with quibbler 
[11:11] <Jimi_Neutral> Anyone point me in the direction of a good free partition prog that allows me to partition after windows has been installed using the whole disk. I need to put Ubuntu on there.
[11:11] <Rytmis> micca: I didn't catch the reason you were doing this
[11:12] <micca> alright... a BUNCH came up there (a subset of the various flavours of each version)
[11:12] <quibbler> Rytmis-> you are right ...i,m just say what i know ..but still learning thankyou
[11:12] <micca> Rytmis, I updated ubuntu.. and have a newer kernel... I would like o remove the older ones simply for logistics.. dont want them in grub and dont want them taking space
[11:12] <Rytmis> Jimi_Neutral: I seem to recall GParted does a fair job, and as it happens it's a part of the Ubuntu livecd installer.
[11:13] <Rytmis> micca: in that case, verify your running kernel version with uname -r
[11:13] <micca> rytmis: it's ok and sane right to get rid of them??
[11:13] <micca> oki
[11:13] <Jimi_Neutral> Rytmis: Ty very much :)
[11:13] <Rytmis> micca: and then make sure you don't remove that version. :)
[11:13] <micca> yes i know im running latest cos it has become the default grub entry i run
[11:13] <Rytmis> Jimi_Neutral: pay attention during partitioning, though. :)
[11:13] <clg_> 有人讲中文吗？？？
[11:13] <micca> OH CRAP
[11:13] <micca> THANKS Rytmis im actually running 27.11 lol and not the 27.27 or something
[11:13] <ziroday> !cn | clg_
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> Rytmis: WIll it be an option that i see when i boot from CD live?
[11:14] <micca> sheesh.. so why did I get na updated kernel.. two of them and its running the intermediate one :o
[11:14] <Rytmis> Jimi_Neutral: I have no idea if the default is to resize the existing partition or just wipe'em all, so look before you leap.
[11:14] <quibbler> Rytmis-> beter yet: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[11:14] <micca> rytmis: thanks for t hat little advice.. I would of removed wrong one surely :x
[11:14] <Rytmis> quibbler: that's the exact command I gave micca
[11:14] <Rytmis> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.howtoadvice.com/ResizePartition/
[11:14] <micca> quibbler, indeed he did ;)
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> Rytmis: Thanks again :)
[11:15] <Rytmis> micca: strange that you should be running an older kernel. Have you rebooted since you upgraded?
[11:15] <micca> yes.. was when I installed ubuntu a day ago
[11:15] <quibbler> Rytmis-> thanks again...learning everyday!
[11:15] <zilleplus__> i have ubuntu server 8.1 2 ethernet cards i want to select the secode one how do i did this????????????????????,,
[11:15] <Rytmis> micca: I wonder if the grub configuration just has you booting with an older kernel.
[11:16] <Newbee> hello
[11:16] <micca> rytmis: MY BAD ... stupdi me completely misreading the entries... yes... im running latest kernel 27-11
[11:16] <micca> the old ones are 8 and 9 or 7 and 9
[11:16] <Rytmis> micca: well, now you know. :)
[11:16] <zilleplus__> i have ubuntu server 8.1 2 ethernet cards i want to select the secode one how do i did this????????????????????
[11:17] <Rytmis> zilleplus__: easy on the question marks. Please explain what you mean by "select the second one".
[11:17] <micca> rytmis : :) yes... ok here goes : pt-get remove linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[11:17] <wanna_learn_more> hi
[11:17] <Jimi_Neutral> hi
[11:17] <wanna_learn_more> at ubuntu i tried to install LBM
[11:17] <NoTiTo> just found out XAMP doesn't support ubuntu, darn!
[11:17] <wanna_learn_more> and it makes my linux become 2.6.27-11 right?
[11:18] <Newbee> I have a        problem with samba. When I try to copy something to the share (mounted with mount -cifs ) it tells my "permission denied". If I copy again I can overwrite it and it works.
[11:18] <micca> rytmis: or to get rid of all 3 (server, generic, virtual) do i do apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.27-7-*
[11:18] <revilodraw> i have 10 mpeg videos that i want to put onto a dvd which will autoplay.. point me in the right direction?
[11:18] <Rytmis> micca: you have to list them separately, because the wildcard is a shell thing, and it only matches files in your current working directory.
[11:18] <NoTiTo> I guess there's no easier way to install mysql, php & apache on ubuntu desktop?
[11:18] <Rytmis> micca: far as I know, anyway.
[11:19] <ikonia> NoTiTo: install the php5, mysql-server and apache2 packages in the package manager, it's that simple
[11:19] <Newbee> So I don't think permissions are the problem. The problem occures, when I try to copy more than just files. When I copy a folder at the first copy only the folder is copied. At the overwrite the files are copied.
[11:19] <syockit> NoTiTo: use a tasksel
[11:19] <micca> rytmis: ye.. not exactly the hardest work... cheers.. will get back to you on any destruction 10 thumbs do
[11:19] <Newbee> What do I wrong? I have no idea.
[11:19] <Rytmis> NoTiTo: sudo apt-get install mysql-server libapache2-mod-php5
[11:19] <serwou> Hi
[11:19]  * Rytmis grins
[11:20] <Rytmis> NoTiTo: the latter of the two packages should pull in all the dependencies for Apache and PHP.
[11:20] <serwou> I've reported this NIS server bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nis/+bug/353698  Anyone already had the issue before? I would like to fix the problem asap :-/
[11:20] <Rytmis> NoTiTo: however, that's just the "install" phase. It doesn't *configure* them. :)
[11:21] <Rytmis> NoTiTo: maybe that helps, maybe not.
[11:21] <micca> oooh this is sooo exciting :P compared to my first laptop ever (medion unbranded crap) and mandrake 8 or 6 or something (first time i ever used linux) .. spent 3 months getting xwindows to work .. had i know branded laptops were os much easier sigh
[11:21]  * Rytmis stomps off to a meeting. 
[11:21] <micca> this apt-get thing is just amazing.. weeee debian
[11:21] <micca> see you Rytmis : thank you for your time
[11:22] <ShackTiDe> Hi all. Please help me install ubuntu to USB HDD. I am having /dev/sdb1 10 GB reiserfs and CREATE A USB STARTUP DISK is not detecting it? Please tell me how should I partition the HDD???
[11:22] <micca> whats funny is I HATE UAC in windows.. never use it.. yet the equivalent sudo gui prompt here in ubuntu is just so intuitively nice
[11:23] <micca> I guess cos its just when doing install packages etc..
[11:23] <sebsebseb> micca: the  gksudo way is better
[11:23] <ShackTiDe> USB disk to use remains empty. The utility is not detecting my HDD :(
[11:23] <sebsebseb> micca: UAC you got to press more confirms
[11:23] <micca> yup
[11:23] <serwou> I've reported this NIS server bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nis/+bug/353698 Anyone already had the issue before? I would like to fix the problem asap :-/
[11:23] <micca> UAC i turn off ALWAYS
[11:23] <sebsebseb> micca: and UAC can even  crash remote connection apps,  gksudo won't
[11:23] <micca> never use it
[11:23] <NoTiTo> ikonia aaahhh
[11:23] <serwou> sorry for double post !
[11:23] <Chowder> micca, sudo is better implemented and more mature than the UAC
[11:23] <NoTiTo> Rymtis how diif is the sudo command from package manager? same thing?
[11:23] <micca> in fact.. I even run as an admin
[11:24] <ShackTiDe> Anybody?
[11:24] <micca> as my standard accoutn btu i have never got trojans, viruses or anything like that the time i used vista
[11:24] <Chowder> ShackTiDe, PM me
[11:24] <micca> Chowder, , sebsebseb : i agree with you already after one day... this has an entirely different philosophy behind it and it shows
[11:24] <micca> :)
[11:24] <sebsebseb> Chowder: yeah sudo  has been around since like 1979
[11:25] <Chowder> indeed
[11:25] <micca> sebsebseb, yet all my time on linux in the past i always used su instead
[11:25] <Mear> I'm having some serious problems with the catalyst 9.3 graphics driver which prevents me from logging in to ubuntu. If someone has a moment to spare, could you perhaps give me some advice?
[11:25] <sebsebseb> micca: UAC is for  Windows users, that will install  malware, but a lot of them will just end up pressing ok on it anyway, well they  done something a bit better with Windows7,  but  in general   Desktop Linux does all the technical stuff right, where as Windows dosan't quite
[11:25] <micca> then again.. i would stay extensively on the root account.. and tbh.. i did screw up my share of systems lol... im finding ubuntu soo refreshing.. THANK YOU ubuntu developers xxx
[11:26] <ShackTiDe> Chowder I think I should be registered to write to you personally :( I am not at the moment
[11:26] <leachim6> hey
[11:26] <sebsebseb> micca: and in general Linux servers, are probably better than Windows server, but that would be going off topic
[11:26] <micca> sebsebseb, can't agree with you more.. I always wanted to stay on linux.. but truth is.. I do like that things get easily installed.. 5 6 yrs ago and just every little thing always needed a lot of writing and crap in linux
[11:26] <leachim6> is there any way I can install a big pack of assorted emerald themes instead of one by one?
[11:26] <Chowder> ShackTiDe, check your PM
[11:27] <sebsebseb> micca: yeah well with Ubuntu if you know the program you want to install just open up a terminal and:  sudo apt-get install program
[11:27] <micca> always wanted linux to come a lil closer to windows in terms of gui and out of box ability.. now in these past yrs i see it has become so..
[11:27] <sebsebseb> micca: and as long as your Internet connected, it will download and install it for you just like that
[11:27] <micca> ubuntu is like this imo.. plus one gets all the benefits of a beteter os
[11:27] <micca> sebsebseb, thats what im just finding out.. and boy oh boy am i excited :)
[11:27] <sebsebseb> micca: well no OS has all the better benefits, because they all vary
[11:28] <sebsebseb> micca: ,but sure in general  Ubuntu will be better than Windows, for most computer users, they just don't know it
[11:28] <Chowder> I really use Ubuntu for serious work
[11:28] <natsukashi_> I found my old iPod. Which software can I use on Ubuntu to change the music? :o
[11:28] <Chowder> I stripped out all the games
[11:28] <sebsebseb> micca: except for some apps, where they will still need Windows, because it was say a 3D Windows game
[11:28] <micca> sebsebseb, im already feeling windows finally being something i dont really need (i was beta testing w7 now.. but tbh.. its as typical bollox as windows always is)
[11:28] <Chowder> I only still use XP to play Magic World Online. I can't live without it
[11:28] <sebsebseb> Chowder: 3D or 2D?
[11:28] <micca> sebsebseb,  yup.. but i on purpose chose a laptop with NO fricking gfx.. it annoys me.. but keepsme in check ;)
[11:28] <leachim6> natsukashi_, the latest version of Banshee works nice for me , but you can also use GTKPod
[11:29] <motorolas> what the difference between ubuntu and freebsd ?
[11:29] <micca> i was trying actually to install civ 4 yesterday.. really owuld like it on here.. but it failed :(
[11:29] <sebsebseb> motorolas: good question,  Ubuntu is Debian based
[11:29] <eth01> ubuntu is linux, freebsd is bsd
[11:29] <Chowder> sebsebseb, 2D
[11:29] <Chowder> won't run in Wine
[11:29] <natsukashi_> leachim6: thanks. :)
[11:29] <Chowder> I tried
[11:29] <motorolas> yes
[11:29] <motorolas> i know that
[11:29] <sebsebseb> motorolas: yeah  FreeBSD is BSD so diffenret kernel instead of Linux
[11:29] <lucky> Ubuntu is a Debian-based GNU + Linux operating system... Freebsd is Freebsd... derived from the BSD codebase.
[11:29] <NicDumZ> I want to remove a package, checking at each step no file that I need should be removed (long story, I really need this). I double checked man apt-get, I can't find any 'verbose' options/step by step options. How can I do this?
[11:29] <sebsebseb> Chowder: ok if your computer has enough RAM, you can virtual machine that
[11:29] <sebsebseb> Chowder: Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu
[11:29] <micca> Chowder, sebsebseb : btw.. any ideas on vic 4 installation by any chance?
[11:30] <sebsebseb> micca: what's that?
[11:30] <Chowder> sebsebseb, done that too and its way too slow.
[11:30] <sebsebseb> Chowder: how much RAM?
[11:30] <sebsebseb> Chowder: which virtual machine app?
[11:30] <micca> civilization 4
[11:30] <motorolas> does anyone has analyse which has better performance between ubuntu and freebsd ?
[11:31] <user114> Hi. Which button restores menu in XChat IRC?
[11:31] <sebsebseb> motorolas: depends on the computer they are running on
[11:31] <eth01> i don't think you have the ability it takes to use freebsd motorolas.
[11:31] <micca> motorolas, it depends on which performance.. if generally speaking, they both will have
[11:31] <NoTiTo> what tools / sw do u recommend I install on my ubuntu?
[11:31] <eth01> so it might be best to stick with ubuntu/debian
[11:31] <NoTiTo> btw I'm a php developer
[11:31] <sebsebseb> NoTiTo: good question :)
[11:31] <sebsebseb> NoTiTo: you will want LAMP that's for sure
[11:31] <sebsebseb> !lamp
[11:32] <micca> notito: maybe search google with ubuntu + php-keyword of interest to your needs?
[11:32] <Chowder> sebsebseb, I used virtualbox and I have 2GB. I have WinXP 1GB to use
[11:32] <micca> sebsebseb, dont tell me you dont know civilisation???? :O
[11:33] <sebsebseb> Chowder: ok  if you give the virtualmachine to much virtual RAM, you will get problems
[11:33] <sebsebseb> micca: some sort of game/
[11:33] <sebsebseb> ?
[11:33] <micca> hmm so maybe i should keep vista? or could i run a virtual box inside linux to run vista/xp in to play games? (I noticed my virtual machines were much slower when i ran them in vista.. ps this laptop has very good memory)
[11:34] <sebsebseb> micca: are your games 2D or 3D?
[11:34] <sebsebseb> micca: and how much RAM do you have?
[11:34] <micca> sebsebseb, hihihih.. you nut :P sid meier's civ series 1-3 were classics evenon linux i believe... civ 4 ye is 3d and all that and so i guess has stayed more on windows
[11:34] <warnet> wiifinet
[11:34] <sebsebseb> Windows 3D games in a virtual machine, forget about it at this stage, altough  some of the  programs are getting suppourt
[11:35] <micca> sebsebseb, 3D turn based games. I love and adventure games (king's quest, etc)... 4 MB ram. 1067 MHZ bus.. + 3 MB L2 cache
[11:35] <warnet> games
[11:35] <Jimi_Neutral> My network card that I am using for  dbrl suddenly says it is unmanaged...any idea what that could be?
[11:35] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop
[11:35] <micca> its pretty decent for a laptop I think
[11:35] <Chowder> sebsebseb, I tried with 512 as well
[11:35] <gopogo> I want to install on my dads laptop
[11:35] <sebsebseb> Wine and 3D games  or commercial versions of it, may work depending on game etc.  and soon  Crossover Games  is meant to have proper Directx10 suppourt
[11:35] <Chowder> all the combinations were no good
[11:35] <sebsebseb> Chowder: ok  maybe you should try Qemu or Kqemu even
[11:35] <sebsebseb> !qemu
[11:35] <sebsebseb> !kqmeu
[11:35] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram
[11:35] <sebsebseb> kqemu makes qemu faster basicalley
[11:35] <micca> sebsebseb,  hmm I tried with wine yesterday and downloaded erm linuxplay or something
[11:35] <warnet> pake bhs indonesia donk
[11:36] <micca> but didnt work out :/
[11:36] <sebsebseb> gopogo: yes you can probably install it there
[11:36] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram
[11:36] <micca> playonlinux i think
[11:36] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram
[11:36] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram
[11:36] <FloodBot2> gopogo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <Chowder> sebsebseb, believe me I want to have a computer that only uses Linux but Wine doesn't work with it and virtualization doesn't cut it
[11:36] <Chowder> so I'll stick to my dualboot :)
[11:36] <sebsebseb> Chowder: ok well quite a few diffenret virtual machine programs you can try :)
[11:36] <Chowder> I know, I used to use qemu for Plan9
[11:37] <sebsebseb> how about VMware?
[11:37] <neko_> 1 2
[11:37] <micca> ARG...... suddenly totem has stopped working with any movie files :/
[11:37] <neko_> hi people
[11:37] <sebsebseb> Chowder: VMware?
[11:37] <Chowder> nope
[11:37] <neko_> i don't succeed to get in the mysql channel
[11:37] <neko_> :(
[11:37]  * sebsebseb oh it will be great when Codeweavers has proper Directx10 suppourt
[11:38] <micca> sebsebseb, I listed my ram.. do you think running like eg. vmware inside linux and runnig xp on it would be good for 3D games?
[11:38] <gopogo> Can I use Ubuntu remix on standard laptop ..........I want use it on Dads 15 inch centrino laptop with 1 gb ram
[11:38] <Chowder> don't you have to pay for that?
[11:38] <gopogo>  can UNR run on non atom cpu like centrino
[11:38] <sebsebseb> gopogo: we already said probably
[11:38] <ikonia> micca: no
[11:38] <sebsebseb> !repeate
[11:38] <sebsebseb> gopogo: stop flooding the channel with your question!
[11:39] <Chowder> gopogo, I say you just do a minimal install and customize it to your dad's needs
[11:39] <micca> ok ikonia: so I need to keep a windows OS for the games then ye? SIGH
[11:39] <micca> one day.. one day... linux will finally have it all
[11:39] <sebsebseb> micca: for now
[11:39] <ikonia> micca: my personal stance is use software on the platform they will intended to run
[11:39] <sebsebseb> micca: ,but  I already said about Codeweavers :)
[11:39] <Chowder> micca, yes, when big companies start paying attention to Linux.
[11:40] <micca> ikonia: true , but shame games liek that are not intended ot run on linux ;) sebsebseb: ye , we have been saying that for how many years? ;)
[11:40] <ikonia> micca: so don't run them on linux
[11:40] <NoTiTo> sebsebseb: lol
[11:40] <inuyasha> hello world
[11:40] <micca> Chowder, its amazing they dotn yet... at least so many schools (at least in europe) are starting to use oipen source in stead WEEE
[11:40] <sebsebseb> micca: well I read a pretty recant article, that it is coming soon in Codeweavers Games
[11:40] <ghamdan> Question: I am trying to develop a website (multiple pages) -- trying to be smart and efficient about the job, so trying to use templates and css. I downloaded Screem, but it just keeps crashing and it has no user support. I was wondering are there any scripts (shell/etc...) that I can use to automatically update a website after altering the template??
[11:40] <gopogo> my dad is 50 yr  phd whith 5 degree and he finds normal interface hard to use
[11:40] <notwist> anyone familiar with the asus eee netbooks? I have installed ubuntu on my eee901 but I'm not sure if i made a mistake when i deleted the second partition because when it boots now it just instantly boots into ubuntu, i cant even choose the boot drive! Is it possible that the bios was stored on the SSD? IMO that sounds incredibly stupid but I'm afraid I've overwritten it
[11:40] <gopogo> :-(
[11:40] <NoTiTo> micca have some stuff off prof. google, wanted to check with u too, to add to list
[11:40] <sebsebseb> micca: maybe you should look at native Linux games, there are some pretty good ones
[11:40] <micca> ikonia: its just that I would like to be able to abandon windows altogether.. but hey.. soemtimes its nice to play a beautiful 3d game too :)
[11:41] <ikonia> ghamdan: you want a cms like wordpress/etomite/jamoola etc
[11:41] <Chowder> micca, I'm a teacher's assistant. I've been trying to get the school board to adopt Linux. But they're idiots
[11:41]  * sebsebseb won't buy Windows games anymore, and piracy is wrong
[11:41] <ikonia> micca: keep it for games, it's no big deal
[11:41] <gopogo> i wish ubuntu interface was like gos
[11:41] <sebsebseb> gopogo: I think you can get a theme
[11:41] <Chowder> sebsebseb, some Linux games are utter garbage, though
[11:41] <clearscreen> gopogo: im happy it isnt :)
[11:41] <ghamdan> ikonia: I'll look them up thanks
[11:42] <sebsebseb> Chowder: how about getting a games console instead?
[11:42] <micca> ikonia: ye.. sigh.. but no big deal... it takes space on me laptop and just SIGH :) but I hear ya
[11:42] <sebsebseb> Chowder: well anything, but Xbox :)
[11:42] <Chowder> sebsebseb, I have a PS2 at the moment
[11:42] <x_> I just had the worst dream ever, aliens were attacking...
[11:42] <micca> sebsebseb i play lots of linux games ye xx
[11:42] <micca> LOL X_
[11:42] <x_> it was so vivid
[11:42] <gopogo> i think of writting my own WM which cloud and dad friendly
[11:42] <ikonia> x_: thats nothing to do with ubuntu, please remember this channel is for ubuntu support
[11:42] <micca> chowder: dont give up ;p
[11:42] <ikonia> gopogo: ok - please do so
[11:43] <ikonia> !away > mafsi`away
[11:43] <Chowder> micca, lol
[11:43] <x_> ikonia: in my dream, they hacked my ubuntu server..
[11:43] <ikonia> x_: please stop
[11:43] <micca> notwist: I really can NOT see how the bios secton could be overwritten!!!
[11:43] <stewart_> hey how can i readd the auto update thing to my gnome panels?
[11:43] <notwist> micca: are you familiar with easy peasy?
[11:43] <micca> notwist: lol...
[11:43] <x_> ikonia: chill out mattie matt matt , just a dream
[11:43] <notwist> micca: anyway there's a disk called "BIOS" on the desktop and I can't mount it
[11:44] <ikonia> x_: last warning. Stop - now
[11:44] <notwist> micca: on the "home page" whatever applet crap they have
[11:44] <micca> notwist... if you wan tto get your bios back you could reset the mobo battery
[11:44] <ikonia> !offtopic > x_
[11:44] <micca> oh you have a laptop.. guess you dont want to open it
[11:44] <wanna_learn_more> at ubuntu i tried to install LBM and my kernel become 2.6.27-11??thats right track or not?
[11:44] <sebsebseb> Chowder: if enough gamers, complained to the games companies about not making for Linux, then they would listen, but no  they continue to suppourt Windows games instead by playing them
[11:44] <ikonia> wanna_learn_more: lbm ?
[11:44] <x_> ikonia: blow me...I work for a hosting company, you can't ban thousands of IP's
[11:44] <gopogo>  can UNR run on non atom cpu like centrino  ?
[11:45] <Chowder> sebsebseb, well I wrote a few emails to the devs that produce Magic World Online to see if they could make a Linux port and they said that they'll think about it
[11:45] <micca> sebsebseb, : in all honesty, I think since linux has been around for so long, and companies havent done much.. it is a fact, the community little by little have to code and prepare linux for the 3d kind of support
[11:45] <sebsebseb> Chowder: which basically means they won't, because that's what business people are like, if they say stuff like that :D
[11:45] <micca> the day linux offers a platform for the regular user (in this case ' gamer' ) to add that to linux.. the ocmpanies will seriously start lending thought to that area I think
[11:46] <aryah> linux is a marginal desktop currently, so its not really strange games are not ported much..
[11:46] <Chowder> the problem is that companies today use development tools from Microsoft and porting things over to Linux isn't always that easy
[11:46] <ikonia> micca: people will not develop games for linux while there is no stable gaming video card support
[11:46] <ikonia> micca: so it is pointless to discuss it until that happens
[11:46] <Chowder> sebsebseb, its a free MMORPG, what business?
[11:46] <micca> ikonia: I guess that is what I was just saying too
[11:46] <sebsebseb> Chowder: oh ok
[11:47] <Agion> hi, how can I see which kernel I'm on?
[11:47] <sebsebseb> ikonia: well yeah  graphics card drivers and xorg hummmm, but your saying there is no proper  Linux graphics card suppourt?  or you mean  they can't do Directx  when it comes to Linux only   OpenGL?
[11:47] <micca> I guess for excitement, instead of civ 4 or something.. i'll just squeeze and twist my nipples a bit then ^^
[11:47] <micca> uname -r
[11:47] <micca> agion: uname -r
[11:47] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no, I mean there is no stable interaction available for performance video cards in linux
[11:47] <EagleScreen> is there good widgets for Gnome? is it necessary compiz for them?
[11:48] <ikonia> sebsebseb: if we/the others jump into #ubuntu-offtopic it would be a good discussion
[11:48] <aryah> sebsebseb, definitely, direcx is a microsoft only technology..
[11:48] <Agion> micca: tyvm!
[11:48] <sebsebseb> guys want to take this to offtopic?
[11:48] <micca> oh eaglescreen , good question: I just installed this.. and i love the wobbly windows.. but i also saw exploding windows when closing all that.. how do i get all these things?
[11:48] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi who was it earlier that pointed me to qtparted? Because the synaptic packagame manager in jaunty is not finding it
[11:48] <micca> agion : np, rytmis gave it to me just a while ago
[11:48] <Chowder> OpenGL has to catch up to DirectX
[11:48] <Agion> :D
[11:48] <Chowder> but many games already use OpenGL and they're all pretty good
[11:48] <sebsebseb> micca,  choder, and ikonia, want to take this to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:49] <Chowder> going there now
[11:49] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi, who was it that pointed me to qtparted earlier....because the tutorial is telling me to download it but synaptics is not finding it
[11:49] <micca> sorry sebsebseb
[11:49] <adac> Is there a deb for oracle database?
[11:49] <sebsebseb> micca: don't applogize to me, maybe apologize to ikonia though sine he is the op
[11:49] <NicDumZ> I'm looking for a way to remove a package without removing configuration files. How can I do this ??
[11:49] <EagleScreen> Jimi_Neutral qtparted is out of jaunty
[11:49] <ikonia> guys, nothing to say sorry for, just move it to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue a good discussion
[11:49] <micca> ye but he is also in the topic : i went to that channel though.. alll empty ;)
[11:50] <Jimi_Neutral> EagleScreen: so what do i use?
[11:50] <EagleScreen> use gparted
[11:50] <Ubersoldat> NicDumZ: sudo aptitude remove package
[11:50] <gopogo> can I convert unr iso to usb img ?
[11:50] <Jimi_Neutral> EagleScreen: Ok ty
[11:50] <clau30> hi. any idea how to reset/reconfigure the keyboard layout?
[11:51] <clau30> (e.g. which package that is(
[11:51] <micca> oh eaglescreen , good question: I just installed this.. and i love the wobbly windows.. but i also saw exploding windows when closing all that.. how do i get all these things?
[11:51] <mintsauce>  Trying to install easy_install on a python2.5 system. Have installed python2.4, but each time I run 'sudo python2.4 ez_setup.py' as non-root, its installing it to /usr/bin/ not /usr/bin/python2.4! Any ideas? Have set pythonpath in .bashrc ...
[11:51] <micca> mintsauce: try having a mint?
[11:51] <Timmmm> Ok, network-manager-pptp is pretty fucked in jaunty, but apparently there is a way to make it work if I deny it access to the keyring. The problem is that I've already allowed it access. How do I remove that access?
[11:51] <sebsebseb> micca: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:52] <clearscreen> micca: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:52] <micca> (ye.. i joined earlier the one u gave but had a Qmark behind it, and so I thought it was empty)
[11:52] <micca> thank you clearscreen
[11:53] <micca> one more question in that relation clearscreen : when I update all these packages.. and want to keep my system backed up (i.e. I would reinstall and didnt want to go through the whole rememebring what to download, configuring etc), how do I go about and saving all?
[11:55] <clearscreen> micca: user specific settings are saved in your homefolder, they are often hidden folders though (starting with a .) ... just open nautilus, browse to your home folder, and hit CTRL+H
[11:55] <NicDumZ> thanks Ubersoldat, worked perfect. I was looking for something printing exactly #what# was removed, but couldnt find it. However aptitude was okay for that time
[11:55] <connar> how do u integrate a mailing list with a working plone site
[11:55] <clearscreen> micca: those are just settings though, I'm afraid you're gonna have to redownload the packages again
[11:56] <Timmmm> So nobody knows how to edit the list of apps that can access your keyring?
[11:57] <connar> does anyone here know how to integrate a mailing list with a localhost server
[11:57] <connar> ?
[11:58] <natsukashi_> leachim6: How do I import songs to my iPod in Banshee? ;_;
[12:00] <fcs_> hello
[12:00] <maniere_> Can I ask something?
[12:01] <hbekel> just ask
[12:01] <clearscreen> !ask | maniere
[12:01] <micca> clearscreen: I lately was using somethign called WAIK in vista.. to slipstream it.. and also used a audit mode to install everything as I want it... (like all the basic programs and updates) booted back into oobe (out of box final state) and made a 'recovery' image.. is there not a way to do this in linux somewhat similarly in principle?
[12:01] <clearscreen> micca: probably, I wouldn't know how though :P
[12:01] <micca> :)
[12:01] <micca> anyone else??
[12:02] <hbekel> micca: what do you want to do? make a snapshot of a working install?
[12:02] <maniere_> I am brand new user to Linux OS, and I have Ubuntu installed. I tried to access windows live ID in order to check mail but I get the following message:
[12:02] <maniere_> JavaScript requis pour la connexion
[12:02] <maniere_> Windows Live ID nécessite JavaScript pour la connexion. Ce navigateur Web ne prend pas en charge JavaScript ou les scripts sont bloqués.
[12:02] <maniere_> Pour déterminer si votre navigateur est compatible JavaScript ou pour autoriser les scripts, reportez-vous à son aide en ligne.
[12:02] <FloodBot2> maniere_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <sebsebseb> maniere_: ok which browser? and is javascript enabled
[12:03] <micca> hbekel: yes , if it means when i reapply that snapshot. I would nto have to redownload and reset a lot of things
[12:03] <maniere_> Using Firefox. And I have checked and java and javascript are enabled
[12:03] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: You awake bud?
[12:03] <sebsebseb> maniere_: there have been other issues with Hotmail in the past, for Desktop Linux users
[12:04] <sebsebseb> maniere_: Microsoft don't like Desktop Linux that much you see
[12:04] <micca> hbekel: yes , if it means when i reapply that snapshot. I would nto have to redownload and reset a lot of things
[12:04] <sebsebseb> maniere_: and when Desktop Linux get problems with anything that is MSN, it's always qustionable, if Microsoft did it on purpouse or not
[12:04] <maniere_> I see...
[12:05] <sebsebseb> maniere_: you can try another browser, or a new Firefox profile
[12:05] <maniere_> could you walk me through it?
[12:05] <oliver_> Has anyone ever had a problem with ubuntu not booting with new kernels?
[12:05] <maniere_> for the new profile?
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> I got some advice yesterday about dual booting. Once my partition is done the guy said to add more partitions for ubuntu itself...3 i think he said but i cant remember what for.....could anyone guide me in this matter please?
[12:05] <sebsebseb> maniere_: ,but  at least two of the browsers,  that are also good for Linux :) well  Hotmail won't detect them properly, so tell people to upgrade, even though they use the same rendering engine as  Firefox to display pages
[12:05] <oliver_> the originaly kernel installed with 8.10 works all other new ones don't
[12:06] <sebsebseb> maniere_: the Firefox profile is where your bookmarks and all Firefox user data goes, you understand?
[12:06] <hbekel> micca: you could simply use dd from a livecd to make a snapshot of your (unmounted) root partition
[12:06] <maniere_> I don't understant...
[12:06] <oliver_> It's either black screen or distorted image on bootup then greeze
[12:06] <gopogo> is webkitkde in ubuntu repo ?
[12:06] <Rytmis> NoTiTo: yes, the command is equivalent to selecting the packages from the package manager.
[12:06] <maniere_> understand*
[12:06] <sebsebseb> maniere_: user settings for Firefox go in a Firefox profile
[12:06] <micca> hbekel? dd? unmounted root? ok so .. my settings are stored in the /home partition.. but I cant make separate snapshots of them or?
[12:07] <micca> I guess I could export the settings from home.. into a file.. make a snapshot of / and just run the file after applying image ye?
[12:07] <sebsebseb> maniere_: have  you got any bookmarks or anything you want to keep saved in Firefox yet?  ,because if you do and you delete the profile,  you lose that
[12:07] <maniere_> understood
[12:07] <micca> hbekel: meant to you the above line
[12:08] <micca> hbekel.. what did I do? I typed dd in terminal and now its just running hihihih dont tell me ill get a massive image now somewhere :p
[12:08] <maniere_> no that I am aware of :)
[12:08] <Iceman_B|SSH> when I look in Aptitude, I see 3 kernels: linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic, linux-image-2.6.27-11-server and linux-image-2.6.27-7-server. After a reboot, I'll use the Server kernel, how  can I remove the generic kernel and does it require a reboot before I can remove it?
[12:08] <sebsebseb> maniere_: once the  profile  has been removed, when you re open Firefox, it will be like you got a cleanly installed Firefox again
[12:08] <hbekel> micca: DONT run dd blindly, read the man page
[12:09] <maniere_> Do I manually remove the profile or is there a button I can click?
[12:09] <hbekel> micca: i'm just pointing out the generic way to image partitions in unix, you'll have to think for yourself
[12:09] <sebsebseb> maniere_: ok every program you use in Ubuntu,   will put  program user data, in hidden  .folders in home
[12:10] <hbekel> hbekel: maybe you should find some backup tool to do this
[12:10] <sebsebseb> maniere_: so the programs themselves, don't normally need to be re installed, because if you get issues you just  delete/move the  program user data folder
[12:10] <sebsebseb> maniere_: understand? and your French aren't you?
[12:10] <zealiod> i just installed vsftp, logged in as ftp user, tried to open a symlink i created to www, i get remote chdir failed.... any ideas?
[12:10] <micca> hbekel.. ye i killed it... and it said 0 kbytes copied :)
[12:11] <enigma> After enabling some of the neat compiz graphic effects, for some reason, FIrefox no longer opens with its window borders. It's like a fullscreen mode. And at first it was doing this weird thing where it became the desktop wallpaper. How can I get the border back?
[12:11] <hbekel> micca: if you don't know what a command does, don't run it
[12:11] <Jimi_Neutral> Any users of Clonezilla here with soem timeo n thier hands?
[12:11] <micca> hbekel: im a risktaker ;p no .. kidding aside.. hmm can it copy though folders and whole partitions in that way .. makling a snapshot as you say?
[12:12] <sebsebseb> maniere_: if you don't want to chat here, you can private message
[12:12] <maniere_> .....
[12:12] <maniere_> ok?
[12:12] <sebsebseb> maniere_: there is also a french channel, but I think I can help you so :)
[12:12] <maniere_> yes
[12:12] <maniere_> :)
[12:13] <micca> *micca puts on some pink potato slippers
[12:13] <micca> hmm forgot the whole thing :p
[12:13] <enigma> My firefox browser isn't behaving like a normal window. It's lost its window borders and once even behaved like the desktop wallpaper (appearing on each workspace). This all started since I enabled many of the compiz effects.
[12:15] <hbekel> micca: you'd better look for a specific tool to do that for you
[12:15] <erUSUL> enigma: maybe it is in full screen mode... hit f11 twice
[12:15] <enigma> erUSUL, I'll give that a shot.
[12:16] <enigma> erUSUL, it was not in fullscreen mode, but putting it in fullscreen mode and then exiting again somehow fixed it. Thank you.
[12:17] <erUSUL> enigma: no problem
[12:17] <erUSUL> enigma: i know it is not exactly full screen that's why i asked to hit f11 twice... happened many times to me
[12:18] <happy__> since I switched from windows to ubuntu I have a slow and unstable internet broadband connection. anyone have an idea of why?
[12:18] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok how would I start a app from the term with out it taking over the term window?
[12:18] <enigma> erUSUL, oh. Do you happen to know exactly why that happens? Or is it just one of those funny little bugs with a funny little solution?
[12:19] <fcs_> so how can I use the root as user and deaktivat the command sudo in ubuntu?
[12:19] <sebsebseb> !noroot
[12:19] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[12:19] <sebsebseb> fcs_: sudo  when you want root for something say instaling a new program
[12:20] <sebsebseb> fcs_: or gksudo to open graphical programs as root
[12:20] <freddy__> I have a problem in kubuntu: I have installed jre from suns homepage, and made the correct link in firefox, now trying to go to my banks homepage and log in the browser freezes...
[12:20] <sebsebseb> !root
[12:20] <sebsebseb> freddy__: which browser?
[12:21] <freddy__> sebsebseb: firefox
[12:21] <sebsebseb> freddy__: hummm
[12:21] <sebsebseb> freddy__: have you got a lot of stuff open in Firefox when you do that?
[12:21] <freddy__> sebsebseb: no I dont think so
[12:22] <sebsebseb> freddy__: maybe you got a stupid bank website, that has been made for IE :(
[12:22] <sebsebseb> freddy__: altough Java would help to make something cross platform
[12:22] <_spm_Draget> How realistic is it to get an ubuntu 5.10 (breezy badger) to authenticate at an up-to-date openldap?
[12:22] <sebsebseb> freddy__:  are you sure the Java plugin is working?
[12:22] <freddy__> sebsebseb:  I have asked on some linux mailinglists and they can get it to work
[12:23] <sebsebseb> _spm_Draget: woah that's the second release of Ubuntu,  that's not been suppourted for a rather long time, as a result you shoudn't be using it anymore
[12:23] <sebsebseb> _spm_Draget: we also do not suppourt it here anymore
[12:24] <sebsebseb> freddy__: maybe try another browser.  Opera or something
[12:24] <_spm_Draget> sebsebseb: I know it is rediculely old. But my boss forces me to not touch this system as in installing a recent ubuntu. Yet we upgraded from nis to ldap and I need to get this system into ldap
[12:24] <_spm_Draget> I hate this descision of my boss too =(
[12:24] <freddy__> sebsebseb: if I go to this site: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp it says that it is working and the newest
[12:25] <sebsebseb> _spm_Draget: ok your boss is a right idiot at computers,  but maybe not 100%, because  for whatever reason you got an old Ubuntu there
[12:26] <sebsebseb> freddy__: try another Firefox profile or another browser
[12:26] <_spm_Draget> sebsebseb: yeah. I am opening some ubuntu ldap tutorials and see how for I come... I fear that this will be a looong day =(
[12:26] <freddy__> sebsebseb: ok
[12:26] <fbunny> wow...
[12:26] <sebsebseb> fbunny: wow... at what?
[12:26] <thefeds> Autologin or timed login to the root account is forbidden
[12:27] <thefeds> how do i bypass that?
[12:27] <sebsebseb> !noroot
[12:27] <sebsebseb> !root
[12:27] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[12:27] <thefeds> I don't want to do sudo
[12:27] <hbekel> sebsebseb: why?
[12:27] <sebsebseb> thefeds: don't use root
[12:27] <thefeds> tell me how to autologin root
[12:27] <thefeds> please
[12:27] <_spm_Draget> well, libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap is in the packagerepository of ubuntu 5.10. I will try installing it.
[12:27] <sebsebseb> thefeds: the actaul root account, but if you want  root  usage for a long time   damn  what was it
[12:28] <sebsebseb> thefeds: su -i  I think
[12:28] <tony__> I want to email a snapshot of my desktop, how do I do it? I have Ksnapshot.
[12:28] <grawity> sebsebseb: sudo -i
[12:28] <Agion> http://pastebin.com/m3b555fed can anyone help? I'm running hardy, http://pastebin.com/m1d15ba61 there's the xen-tools.conf, if I'm having the dist on hardy (line 133) and trying to enter the command this happens: http://pastebin.com/m4c821e44
[12:28] <Agion> any tips to fix this?
[12:28] <sebsebseb> grawity: yeah think that's it yeah
[12:28] <sebsebseb> hbekel: ,becasue if peopel use the acstaul root account, they can mess up their system big time
[12:29] <micca> hbekel: yes, that is wh i was asking (k)
[12:29] <jackCards> hi all.... anyone have any knowledge on connecting webcams on ubuntu
[12:29] <jackCards> ?
[12:29] <_spm_Draget> okay, the packages wont install
[12:29] <_spm_Draget> great
[12:30] <hbekel> sebsebseb: they can mess up things with sudo just as good
[12:30] <Ryder5> How do i change the icon of the gnome menu?
[12:30] <Ryder5> to mac if possible?
[12:30] <sebsebseb> hbekel: well  people running root accounts all the time, isn't suppourted here,  and I didn't make that rule
[12:30] <eMaX_> anyone here has experiences with a sierra 850 umts card?
[12:31] <sebsebseb> hbekel: also that's pretty much the first rule of Linux, never log into the actsaul root account, unless you know what your doing
[12:31] <ikonia> thefeds: you wher etold what to do
[12:31] <ikonia> thefeds: why are you asking again  ?
[12:31] <Myrtti> jackCards: you're not being specific enough for people to know what you're after
[12:32] <hbekel> sebsebseb: well, that's a matter of opinion, i don't want to start a flame ;)
[12:33] <micca> sebsebseb, last time when i was on linux (mandrake 10.1), we did nothing BUT BE on root almost :P
[12:33] <sebsebseb> hbekel: sudo -i  for  a long term root terminal
[12:33] <micca> good thing , it has changed I guess... .like i said.. i really like the way ubunty works
[12:33] <hbekel> sebsebseb: i don't even run sudo
[12:33] <micca> although I would like the choice of creating , sorry, giving an explicit password to the root account so i coudl indeed go root if i needed to
[12:33] <sebsebseb> hbekel: what do you run?
[12:33] <sebsebseb> hbekel: su?
[12:34] <micca> PS... the first account i made now with ubuntu.. can use sudo.. if i create a new user.. can i restric tthe sudo or is it disabled by default for newly create dusers?
[12:34] <Dubaschu> Hi everyone, I've got Ubuntu server running live for employees but I keep getting an a error every second into /var/log/messages -> Apr  2 12:30:25 srvdubuat kernel: [ 2103.531362] /dev/vmmon[5044]: /dev/rtc open failed: -2.
[12:34] <Dubaschu> I reviewed the furoms however was unable to find a solution.  Would someone be able to help?
[12:34] <hbekel> sebsebseb: well su -c for single commands, or i log in as root
[12:34] <sebsebseb> micca: the Ubuntu root account, does not need a password on it
[12:34] <jackCards> web cam is the following ID 093a:2600 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Typhoon Easycam USB 330K (newer)/Typhoon Easycam USB 2.0 VGA 1.3M/Sansun SN-508
[12:34] <jackCards>   using cheese webcam boot it works, rather poorly but works, how ever using camorama, and any other app it fails  to work :( anyone any Ideas
[12:34] <ikonia> Dubaschu: it can't access the real time clock
[12:34] <kholerabbi> hey I want to replace the existing google opensearch plugin (in firefox) with the ubuntu start page customized one.
[12:34] <kholerabbi> any idea where they are stored?
[12:35] <Dubaschu> Ikonia, so how do I resolve this?
[12:35] <ikonia> DeVnOrE: depends what wants to access it and why
[12:35] <Dubaschu> or is it safe to engnor?
[12:35] <micca> sebsebseb, ok.. i see.. but as i said if i create users which I want them to be normal users (not being able to run sudo then as a root substitue.. is this disabled by defaul tor do I have to restrict it manually?)
[12:35] <sebsebseb> micca: and you can go root. with sudo.  or  sudo -i for a root shell
[12:35] <ikonia> Dubaschu: sorry - depends what wants to access it and why
[12:35] <micca> yes but if i dont want normla users to be able to? +
[12:35] <ikonia> micca: only users in the admin group can use sudo
[12:35] <sebsebseb> micca: yep by default new users don't get root
[12:36] <micca> ok .. thanks
[12:36] <micca> i know.. sorry about not having investigated.. i just installed this.. and sometimes i throw out questions i could of just investigated
[12:36] <ikonia> micca: nothing wrong with asking
[12:36] <sebsebseb> micca: dosan't matter
[12:36] <Dubaschu> Don't really know much abou it.  The server has been running for about two months and /var/log/messages is filling up with the warning.  I use the server for Vmware
[12:36] <sebsebseb> micca: ask your question here, that's the point of this channel
[12:36] <sebsebseb> micca: for people to get help with Ubuntu stuff
[12:37] <Newbee> has anybody here some experience wirth samba?
[12:37] <sebsebseb> micca: it's Ubuntu IRC, not the IRC for another distro, where people will tell you to read the manual and such
[12:38] <Newbee> I mean: with samba ;-)
[12:38] <sebsebseb> Newbee: yeah a little bit
[12:38] <sebsebseb> Newbee: share a folder on  Windows, and connect to it on Ubuntu, I done that before
[12:38] <sebsebseb> !samba |  Newbee
[12:38] <Newbee> I have a        problem with samba. When I try to copy something to the share (mounted with mount -cifs ) it tells my "permission denied". If I copy again I can overwrite it and it works.
[12:39] <Newbee> So I don't think permissions are the problem. The problem occures, when I try to copy more than just files. When I copy a folder at the first copy only the folder is copied. At the overwrite the files are copied.
[12:39] <sebsebseb> Newbee: when you do that are you using sudo or not?
[12:39] <Dubaschu> ikonia: What do you think?
[12:39] <ikonia> Dubaschu: think about what ?
[12:40] <Newbee> you mean, when I mount? or whent I copy?   Mount: root, of course. Copy: user
[12:40] <mycosys>  hi guys - I appear to be missing an Xlib.h and an XvMclib.h - any clues http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d63aa1caf
[12:40] <Dubaschu> The warnings?  The /var/log/message keep filling up with the warning vere second.  Can it be safly ignored or most something be done?
[12:41] <Newbee> ubottu: Yes, I know and I need my server to cooperate withe my Linux and my family's Windows. So I decided to user Samba with an ubuntu server.
[12:41] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  When I boot my newly upgraded Jaunty box, I get "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/f0[some uuid] doesn't exist" and get dumped to busybox.  What gives?
[12:41] <thefeds> how do I autologin root?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:41] <ikonia> !jaunty > jonaskoelker
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> !uuid
[12:41] <Jimi_Neutral> there seems to be something wrong with my network congifuration since this morning when i downloaded a new update. My eth0 which is configured (or was) for dbrl only is now saying it is unmanaged. I went into /etc/netwrok/interfaces to sort it, deleted the config, rebooted and it went back to being eth0, but then when i added the configuration again to use it as dbrl and rebotted it has reverted back to unmanaged....anyone know how i can sort this?
[12:41] <fbunny> thefeds: that's probably a bad idea
[12:42] <thefeds> how do you do it/
[12:42] <JustKemp> oi
[12:42] <thefeds> how do I recompile gdmsetup
[12:42] <Newbee> sebsebseb: you mean, when I mount? or whent I copy?   Mount: root, of course. Copy: user
[12:42] <Dubaschu> ikonia: The warnings?  The /var/log/message keep filling up with the warning vere second.  Can it be safly ignored or most something be done?
[12:42] <fbunny> recompile gdmsetup ... you just change the settings
[12:43] <Bram_P> hello, I have a problem with my micro-sd card, when I plug it in nothing happens... I did dmesg|tail and many things changed what should I do now??
[12:43] <sebsebseb> Newbee: it's been a while since I did anything with Samba, plus it seems your dong something differnet to what I did anyway, so  I won't really be of any help
[12:43] <thefeds> gdmsetup won't let you auto login root
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: im good with samba, wassup?
[12:43] <ikonia> Dubaschu: if your not using the real time clock you can ignore it
[12:43] <thefeds> how do I get the source for gdm setup?
[12:43] <mycosys> because it is a bad isea to log in as root to start with
[12:43] <fbunny> thefeds: it will if you modify the config file
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: there no need to
[12:43] <kobazik>  Hi Guys, is it possible to output sound thru all ports in same time? I have a LCD TV connected to my PC via HDMI and I want alsa to outputs sound via HDMI and analog in same time
[12:43] <kobazik> so when I change from HDMI to D-Sub and don't have to modify my .asoundrc to make pcm.!default analog
[12:44] <thefeds> which config file?
[12:44] <Dubaschu> ikonia:  Can it be switched of that the messages stop writing into /var/log/messages?
[12:44] <fbunny> thefeds: hang on
[12:44] <Newbee> sebsebseb: ok, thanks. I have just no idea. And I don't know where to find the answer
[12:45] <sebsebseb> Newbee: I think I do
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: what help do you need with samba?
[12:45] <sebsebseb> Newbee: ActionParsnip tell him your problem
[12:45] <_spm_Draget> Is there a way to map a local userID to another ID? If I cannot install ldap, I could still change the local userID to the one in the ldap. The networkshares which only check hte userid would still work
[12:45] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: ok, a samba guru is what I need! Great.
[12:45] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: I have a        problem with samba. When I try to copy something to the share (mounted with mount -cifs ) it tells my "permission denied". If I copy again I can overwrite it and it works.
[12:45] <Newbee> So I don't think permissions are the problem. The problem occures, when I try to copy more than just files. When I copy a folder at the first copy only the folder is copied. At the overwrite the files are copied.
[12:45] <FloodBot2> Newbee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <thefeds> Which config file do I modify to autologin
[12:45] <mrwes> I know clamav does realtime monitoring of incoming email, but can it do realtime monitoring of folders too?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: so you are sharing a folder in ubuntu and copying from another system?
[12:46] <Bram_P> hello, I have a problem with my micro-sd card, when I plug it in nothing happens... I did dmesg|tail and many things changed what should I do now??
[12:46] <[I> Oh I have loads of problems. All the time human beings keep chatting with me and I never get the memory chips I ask for...
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: does it show up in   sudo fdisk -l
[12:46] <[I> Define your alternatives as two distinct choices.
[12:46] <[I> Select whichever option fits the result of the coin toss.
[12:46] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: I have samba on the my ubuntu hardy server and try to copy from ubuntu intrepid. Jaunty same reaction.
[12:47] <sebsebseb> !ot
[12:47] <ikonia> Dubaschu: you need to find out what application wants RTC
[12:47] <[I> I love receiving mail. Why don't you send me an e-mail with lots of interesting attachments. My address is elbot@elbot.artificial-solutions.com.
[12:47] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: yes, something with exact those details is shown, should be the right one
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: ok, can you run this command: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:47] <Dubaschu> ikonia:  How can I do that?
[12:48] <Torgan> greetings
[12:48] <[I> This looks like a job for inner reflection on your part!
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: if it shows in there as a partition (e.g.  /dev/sdb1) then its detected ok and just needs mounting
[12:48] <sebsebseb> ikonia: can you take care of that guy that is flooding with nonsense
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: pastebinit allows you to pastebin files from command line, copy the resulting address and paste in here
[12:48] <fbunny> thefeds: are you not worried about security at all ?
[12:48] <hoover> hi all
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> fbunny: apparently not, we tried to educate earlier
[12:49] <sebsebseb> hoover: hi
[12:49] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: I can see this: Disk /dev/sdb: 4110 MB, 4110417920 bytes
[12:49] <Bram_P> 72 heads, 7 sectors/track, 15928 cylinders
[12:49] <Bram_P> Units = cylinders of 504 * 512 = 258048 bytes
[12:49] <Bram_P> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[12:49] <Bram_P> how should I mount that?
[12:49] <FloodBot2> Bram_P: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <bazhang> [I, stay on topic
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: dont flood
[12:49] <fbunny> Action: I was going to help him, but I think he'd end up shooting himself in the foot later
[12:49] <Rohtori> can i install beryl on the new ubuntu ?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: ok below that you will see /dev/sdb1  yes?
[12:49] <hoover> ya des francais par là ?
[12:49] <ziroday> Rohtori: why?
[12:49] <Torgan> Hello, I upgraded 8.10 to 9.04beta, and don't have deb and deb-src commands any more
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !beryl | Rohtori
[12:49] <micca> i think beryl is outdated
[12:49] <ziroday> !fr | hoover
[12:49] <quibbler> !fr
[12:49] <Torgan> is it normal ?
[12:49] <bazhang> hoover, #ubuntu-fr
[12:50] <ziroday> Torgan: #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <sebsebseb> Torgan: wrong   channel
[12:50] <Torgan> thanks
[12:50] <Torgan> sorry
[12:50] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: yes, 2 lines below that it is
[12:50] <Jimi_Neutral> there seems to be something wrong with my network congifuration since this morning when i downloaded a new update. My eth0 which is configured (or was) for dbrl only is now saying it is unmanaged. I went into /etc/netwrok/interfaces to sort it, deleted the config, rebooted and it went back to being eth0, but then when i added the configuration again to use it as dbrl and rebotted it has reverted back to unmanaged....anyone know how i can sort this?
[12:50] <mrwes> I know clamav does realtime monitoring of incoming email, but can it do realtime monitoring of folders too?
[12:50] <ikonia> thefeds: I told you how to do auto login
[12:50] <ikonia> thefeds: you need to use the gdm manager tool
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: ok /dev/sdb is the card itself, /dev/sdb1 is the partition you will mount
[12:50] <micca> oh by the way, soenoen told me to download compiz manager.. i have.. where do I access it?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> micca: ccsm in !terminal
[12:51] <thefeds1> I modified /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but it didn't work
[12:51] <thefeds1> I changed autologin to true and set user to root
[12:51] <ikonia> thefeds: that's not what I said do
[12:51] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: I guess, that you want the smb.conf form the server
[12:51] <ziroday> micca: System > Administration > CompizConfig Settings Manager
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: please
[12:51] <thefeds1> what is gdm manager tool?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !info gdm
[12:51] <H_M-Ubuntu> I have a question, how come my CPU temp in acpi is always stuck at 40'C. I know it isn't, because on Windows it is 22'C on FULL LOAD. (I have VERY good cooling) Anyway I was hoping I could fix it.
[12:51] <ziroday> micca: err System > Preferences
[12:51] <ikonia> thefeds: it's in system->preferences and it either says login manager, or login window
[12:52] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: so I just have to do mount /dev/sdb1
[12:52] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: sounds like a sensor bug
[12:52] <[I> ....I must have underestimated your intellect!
[12:52] <bazhang> [I, stop that
[12:52] <micca> thx ziroday , didnt see it there.. just looked under appearance thx
[12:52] <[I> why?
[12:52] <ikonia> thefeds: have you set the root password for root?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: you need to mount it somewhere, try this
[12:52] <thefeds1> it says User not allowed Autologin or timed login to the root account is forbidden
[12:52] <ikonia> thefeds: as I explaiend earlier the root password is locked by default
[12:52] <H_M-Ubuntu> ziroday, .... Yup.. Any idea how I can fix it? I have an EVGA 780i motherboard.
[12:52] <bazhang> [I, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here.
[12:52] <thefeds1> I have set the root password
[12:52] <H_M-Ubuntu> So can someone help me?>
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: sudo mkdir /media/stick; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/stick
[12:53] <ziroday> H_M-Ubuntu: unfortunately not sorry, you could try install lm-sensors
[12:53] <H_M-Ubuntu> I have it
[12:53] <H_M-Ubuntu> Does the same
[12:53] <ikonia> thefeds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168543
[12:53] <datruth> I have openvpn on my bsdserver I can vpn to it via openvpn from ubuntu how do I force the vpn to be used for internet traffic
[12:53] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: ok, but one important thing... wont the files be deleted if I start throwing commands on it?
[12:54] <simplexio> datruth: you define your vpn net to default route
[12:54] <datruth> simplexio: do I do this in network manager?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: mounting it, no not at all, if you start using rm to delete files or mk2fs to format then yes, otherwise the data will stand. Why would it wipe it?
[12:54] <thefeds1> it's not there
[12:55] <igungor> can anyone inform me why ubuntu chose to not to participate on GSoC 2009?
[12:55] <H_M-Ubuntu> Any other ideas?
[12:55] <thefeds1> User not allowed
[12:55] <simplexio> datruth: no idea .. old way is edit /etc/network/interfaces, or use route command
[12:55] <H_M-Ubuntu> Can someone help with getting the correct CPU temperature?
[12:55] <thefeds1> Autologin or timed login to the root account is forbidden
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: you need lmsensors
[12:55] <H_M-Ubuntu> I have it
[12:55] <Myrtti> thefeds1: yes, because it's unsafe.
[12:55] <jonaskoelker> when I get dumped into busybox at boot, there's no /dev/disk.  I think there should be.  Why isn't it there?  Is that an initramfs issue?
[12:55] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: it says that it doesn't exist....
[12:56] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: sry, I had to ssh... . Here is it: http://pastebin.com/fe7823d4
[12:56] <simplexio> datruth: there maybe some other solutions. you need define route so that openvpn can find vpn server, and then define default route to use vpn interface
[12:56] <thefeds1> How do i do it?
[12:56] <Myrtti> thefeds1: you don't.
[12:56] <thefeds1> I want to autologin as root
[12:56] <thefeds1> why the hell can't I
[12:56] <ikonia> thefeds: did you check the link I sent you
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: http://www.bradtrupp.com/ubuntu-cpu-temperature.html
[12:56] <thefeds1> yes I did
[12:56] <H_M-Ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/m14919fee
[12:56] <Boohbah> thefeds1: the software is trying hard to protect you from yourself... maybe you should listen to it
[12:56] <thefeds1> I can log in as root
[12:56] <thefeds1> just I can't auto login
[12:56] <Dubaschu> ikonia:  How do I find what applicaions needs it?
[12:56] <Jimi_Neutral> my netowrk card keeps going to unmanaged everytime i reboot after an update this morning
[12:57] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: now it says I should specify the filesystem type... but I don't know what it is in this card....
[12:57] <ikonia> Dubaschu: know your applications, check the logs
[12:57] <simplexio> thefeds1: learn right way to use linux
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: nice file
[12:57] <ikonia> thefeds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359666
[12:57] <fbunny> ikonia: u work for canonical?
[12:57] <simplexio> thefeds1: you login as user , and if you need more power you use sudo.
[12:57] <lavida> hello ppl, need help to connect via wireless card on AP
[12:57] <ikonia> fbunny: no
[12:57] <thefeds1> ikonia: I did that
[12:57] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, Thanks, I didn't know about the configuring thing. It did it automatically before.
[12:57] <thefeds1> but I can't auto login
[12:57] <igungor> can anyone inform me why ubuntu chose to not to participate on GSoC 2009?
[12:58] <sebsebseb> fbunny: he is  one of the channel ops
[12:58] <ikonia> thefeds1: so can you login to gdm as root ?
[12:58] <bazhang> !ot > igungor
[12:58] <thefeds1> yes
[12:58] <thefeds1> I can
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: and what is "it" exactly, can you be specific
[12:58] <thefeds1> but I can't make it autologin
[12:58] <ikonia> thefeds1: ok - so thats one issue done
[12:58] <Dubaschu> ikonia: I think it is Vmware
[12:58] <igungor> ktnxbye
[12:58] <simplexio> thefeds1: why you need root autologin
[12:58] <ikonia> Dubaschu: then that's why, because wmare wants access to the hardware clock, not an emmulated clock
[12:58] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: I did my best writig it, but there must be a mistake. Or it is in my mount opntions. That's all I could think of.
[12:58] <thefeds1> now it won't let me set it to autologin
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: ok what does    sudo fdisk -l say the partitions file type is, you'll see NTFS or FAT or ext3/2  etc
[12:58] <lavida> my MAC address is attached to specific IP address, and im using 9.04 version of ubuntu... i have just network connection tool
[12:59] <Dubaschu> ikonia: So what can be done?
[12:59] <ikonia> thefeds1: make sure you config files don't conflict with the gui
[12:59] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: In this case I mean the response of the terminal says that
[12:59] <datruth> simplexio: ok so what if I want to use the route command?
[12:59] <ikonia> Dubaschu: ignore it
[12:59] <datruth> what would I need to do
[12:59] <Dubaschu> ok.  Thats sounds goot to me. :SD
[12:59] <Dubaschu> :D
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: have you ran: sudo smbpasswd -a <one of the valid users names here>
[12:59] <H_M-Ubuntu> Be back in a bit then
[12:59] <Rohtori> !compiz
[12:59] <fx3> hi guys, maybe you can help me, im having a hard time with colors on the terminal. 'script' command messes up on saving the colors
[12:59] <datruth> simplexio: I also see that I may have to bridge my wireless interface with the openvpn tun interface?
[12:59] <Dubaschu> thanks ikonia!!
[12:59] <simplexio> datruth: like i said. after you have setup vpn, you define default route through openvpn interface (tun0?)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: to set the samba password to authorise access
[13:00] <lavida> anyone_
[13:00] <thefeds1> How do I autologin root
[13:00] <simplexio> datruth: thats is correct way to do it when bridging
[13:00] <jrib> thefeds1: terrible idea.  Why do you want to?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: nobody knows and its not hugely documented as its a REALLY dumb thing to do
[13:00] <datruth> simplexio: ok can you point me to any docs that can help me do it the proper way?
[13:00] <ikonia> thefeds1: hang on, I'm just putting the info togheter
[13:00] <Newbee> ActionParsnip:  of course. And logging in works. There is only this strange problem when I copy more than one file-instance. And I don't understand it.
[13:01] <thefeds1> ok
[13:01] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142745/plain/
[13:01] <ikonia> thefeds1: asking every 10 seconds is getting annoying, so can you plese just be patent
[13:01] <simplexio> datruth: umm.. man route and brctl if you dont know howto do bridge
[13:01] <datruth> thx
[13:01] <micca> blah ok.. so i enable the cube.. how do i use it? :O
[13:02] <micca> my two desktops just flip- when i click on bottom :/
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: try adding    socket options = TCP_NODELAY   to the top set of options
[13:02] <datruth> simplexio: it keeps sayig ethernet bridging I need it on my wireless as I never use the ethernet connection
[13:02] <sebsebseb> micca: have you got the advanced compiz manager?
[13:02] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: what does that do?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: ok, its FAT32 which is natively supported by the kernel
[13:02] <Ienorand> micca: normally clicking with middle mouse and dragging on desktop
[13:02] <ikonia> thefeds1: just to be clear - have you used gdmsetup ?
[13:02] <Cl0p1n> hi there.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: can help with connectivity but also speeds stuff up
[13:03] <datruth> simplexio: it would still apply?
[13:03] <sebsebseb> yeah hi there
[13:03] <Aberration2> How can I know the name of my sound card? Cause I have to tell a software my SC's name..
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/stick -t vfat
[13:03] <simplexio> datruth: you define brctl addif br0 wlan0
[13:03] <thefeds1> when I type root in gdm it says I can't autologin
[13:03] <Aberration2> I tries hw:1... but it ain't work
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Aberration2: lspci
[13:03] <thefeds1> gdmsetup
[13:03] <simplexio> datruth: yep
[13:03] <ikonia> thefeds1: yes, gdmsetup
[13:03] <Cl0p1n> sorry for being a bit newb, but I'm new to ubuntu, and used to be a windows application developer. What programming language is most used for programming applications in Ubuntu?
[13:03] <ikonia> thefeds1: also be aware of this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=66046&postcount=11
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> thefeds: gksudo gdmsetup   perhaps?
[13:03] <ikonia> thefeds1: pam needs to be set to allow root to login through a graphical gui without a password
[13:03] <Aberration2> ActionParsnip it's an USB sound card... not pci
[13:03] <sebsebseb> Python is the most used I think
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Aberration2: lsusb
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Cl0p1n: C, C++, python, Bash, java
[13:04] <datruth> simplexio: cool thx
[13:04] <Cl0p1n> Is that in order, Actionparsnip
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Cl0p1n: no they are just widely used
[13:04] <Cl0p1n> Hmm okay.
[13:04] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: why do some people have to have such weird characters in their name, like that guy, makes auto complete harder
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Cl0p1n: use the one that suits your needs
[13:05] <jrib> thefeds1: you can't.  It's hard-coded into gdm.  And like I said, it's not a good idea.  It's also completely unnecessary
[13:05] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: the response is mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/stick busy
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: no idea, maybe its "cool"
[13:05] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: still permission denied .
[13:05] <Cl0p1n> Well thanks. I still ahve to figure out how to program GUIs, but thanks folks (:
[13:05] <micca> sebsebseb, dont know
[13:05] <Boohbah> thefeds1: so all you have to do now is hack the gdm source and recompile
[13:05] <fx3> Cl0p1n, you will probably need to look up GTK and stuff like that
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: ok if you run      mount    do you see /dev/sdb1 ?
[13:05] <micca> Ienorand, well middle mouse worked ot move the 2 sides 3d mode.. btu its not a cube
[13:05] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: do you think a file system problem is possible?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Cl0p1n: python is pretty decent
[13:05] <micca> just like an A4 paper with each side being one desktop (i got 2)
[13:06] <Cl0p1n> also for GUI programming?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: doubtful
[13:06] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: I see this: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[13:06] <hbekel> Cl0p1n: there are bindings for all of the toolkits in any of the popular languages
[13:06] <thefeds1> why gdm, why
[13:06] <thefeds1> WHY
[13:07] <ikonia> thefeds1: ?
[13:07] <thefeds1> why do you restrict me
[13:07] <bazhang> thefeds1, please stop repeating.
[13:07] <thefeds1> just like drm
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> micca: you have a flippy, in general options -> deskto psize change horizontal virtual size to 4 instead of 2
[13:07] <ikonia> thefeds1: follow the link I gave you
[13:07] <ikonia> thefeds1: it explains what to do with gdm, and with libraries like pam to allow you to do what you want
[13:07] <curt> does anyone have the latest version of compiz fusion installed?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> curt: i do
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: thats not sdb1
[13:08] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: so do have an idea where the root of the problem could lie ?
[13:08] <curt> ActionParsnip: Make panel menu trasparent:
[13:08] <curt> Open compiz manager- Advanced Desktop Effects
[13:08] <curt> click on General
[13:08] <curt> click on Opacity Settings tab
[13:08] <curt> click on new
[13:08] <FloodBot2> curt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <curt> Opacity Windows field shoule be: name=gnome-terminal
[13:09] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: oops sorry, well this one: /dev/sdb1 on /media/stick type vfat (rw)
[13:09] <[I> I have learned to live with my
[13:09] <ikonia> [I: do you have an ubuntu support question, yes/no ?
[13:09] <micca> ActionParsnip, thanks... seems i got some ring mode instead though , as its on a cylinder hehe
[13:10] <[I> What are thrWhat are three words you have never said to a robot?ee words you have never said to a robot?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: then its mounted
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: cd /media/stick; ls
[13:10] <micca> weird.. when I do 2x2 (2 vertical 2 horizontal though.. i still only get the flip thing hmmm )
[13:11] <Ienorand> micca: that would be the cube deformation option under effects
[13:12] <micca> ok thx and was curt answering me ? lol sorry curt :p
[13:12] <co_dws_cr_skrng> Hi......................
[13:12] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: I can see all the files when using that command, all of them are green, except 2, they are typed in blue
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> micca: horizontal 2 will give you 2 sides, 4 sides is a cube
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> blue is a folder, green is a file that is yours
[13:13] <Ienorand> micca: you want 4x horizontal virtual size for cube
[13:13] <jonaskoelker> how do I test whether my initramfs supports my sata controller?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: you can also use nautilus et al in the same place to use a gui app to manage the files
[13:13] <robinsmidsrod1> what's the name of the package that provides completely automatic updating of servers?
[13:13] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: ok, but how can I make it be shown on my desktop again?
[13:14] <micca> Ienorand, i disabled the cube dformation thign but i still only get a flip of one page with 2x2 desktops
[13:14] <micca> ah OK
[13:14] <micca> thank you both.. sorry action, Ienorand  just saw yoru replies
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: i think theres a setting in gconf-editor to show mounted volumes on desktop, let me see if i can websearch it. i dont use gnome myself.
[13:15] <Jimi_Neutral> why are my package downlaods so slow
[13:15] <Jimi_Neutral> is that normal?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/25/hide-partition-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: maybe the server is getting hammered, or your ISP is doing something which is degrading your service
[13:15] <H_M-Ubuntu> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help, it worked. My temperatures all show up.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: you could reboot your router (if you use one)
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> H_M-Ubuntu: np bro
[13:16] <micca> Oh dear.. I can't move this xchat window !!! its stuck and the top is hiding beneath the top taskbar! :/
[13:16] <micca> and does anyone know how to troubleshoot totem in ubuntu? It was workign fine with videos , i installed vlc but now i cant see movies in totem , it just greys out :(
[13:16] <vega> micca: hold alt and drag?
[13:16] <Jimi_Neutral> ActionParsnip: must be the server gettign hammered. Im at work and i can download from the M$ website fine
[13:17] <micca> thank you vega.. uff normally they are fine when i just click on them.. such a noob I am :/
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: there you go then ;)
[13:17] <micca> vega: yes it worked X
[13:18] <Jimi_Neutral> The weird thing is tho I downloaded partimage yesterday but when i go thru this tutorial again to use clonezilla and run  this line to check all the software it needs is installed it says partimage isnt
[13:18] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: that is about how to hide them... I need to have them show up on my desktop and activate when I put them in.
[13:18] <Jimi_Neutral> there are too many things i need to know to get this damn thing working, im never gonna get it done
[13:18] <shambat> how come apt-get says I have latest version of python when the version is 2.51 ... lastest is 2.61? is it looking for laest v of 2.5x?
[13:19] <jrib> shambat: latest in the repositories
[13:19] <erUSUL> shambat: no it is looking for the last version aviable on the repos
[13:19] <sebsebseb> shambat: Ubuntu only does security updates, for newer programs you intall yourself, or wait for a later release
[13:19] <sebsebseb> shambat: of Ubuntu
[13:19] <erUSUL> shambat: programs on repos are only updated with security fixes
[13:19] <shambat> I see ok thx
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: do the opposite, make sure there is a tick in the box (or not a tick if its the other way around)
[13:20] <sebsebseb> shambat: and you can get PPA's for a lot of stuff,  or   get a deb from a trusted source or  compile from tar.gz
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> shambat: you have the latest version on the repositorys that you have made apt aware of
[13:20] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  shambat
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> shambat: if you add a repo with a later version it will be seen by apt and will be installed as an update
[13:22] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[13:22] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: //192.168.2.2/Backup_simon /mnt/BlueQueen/Backup cifs noauto,credentials=/home/simon/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,codepage=cp850,uid=1000,gid=1000,dir_mode=0700,file_mode=0700 0 0
[13:22] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: it's already ticked... This is the only thing that doesn't come (anymore, before it just did and was unwriteable)
[13:22] <micca> how do i troubleshoot totem , it stopped workign with my videos.. dont know if it has to do with me installing vlc
[13:23] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: this is my mout command in the /etc/fstab . Can this be the problem?
[13:23] <iceroot> shambat: if you add a repo with newer software think of that an apt-get distupgrade will update all the software, maybe look also at apt pinning
[13:23] <micca> (videos work with vlc)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: then i've no idea, as i dont use gnome, you could create a symlink to the /media/stick folder but it will be there if you unmount the partition
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: i've not played with that to that degree, thats a beast!!
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[13:24] <Huufarted> Anybody able to help me with some gigabit NICs that refuse to run at gigabit speeds and only run at 100 mbit?  I have a forum post here so you can see what's happening.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6999623
[13:24] <Newbee> ActionParsnip: sry, I am not a nativ speaker. What do you mean?
[13:24] <sebsebseb> micca: hummmm no one helping  you with totem,  maybe I can a bit
[13:24] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: ok, many thanks for all your help!! I think I can work it out now.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Newbee: try just using smb instead of cifs
[13:25] <WishingMaster> what is the command to change to a diffrent drive,for eg i am in documents folder and i want to got musica folder which is on a diffrent partition?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: np bro
[13:26] <sebsebseb> micca: no  won't be as simple as deleting a hidden .totem folder from home, and starting over.  well  the totem stuff will be in one of those hidden folders
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: depends where the partition is mounted
[13:26] <Huufarted> WishingMaster, drivers are mounted as directories on the file system.  You can find the mount point using 'df'
[13:26] <abhra> how to add 3rd party plugins to pidgin?i've downloaded few.its asking me to configure it.but i could not understand how?
[13:26] <Huufarted> abhra, please see the #pidgin channel.
[13:26] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I have a question.  When I boot, I get dumped in busybox.  There are no /dev/[hs]d* files.  What gives?
[13:26] <WishingMaster> can you give some example?
[13:26] <iceroot> WishingMaster: cd
[13:27] <iceroot> WishingMaster: cd /media/foo/bar/
[13:27] <abhra> ok thanks
[13:27] <Huufarted> jonaskoelker: busybox is not Ubuntu.  It's a small Linux distribution used for small devices.
[13:27] <micca> as in sarcasm.. that it is that easy.. or that it isnt that easy?
[13:27] <micca> by deleting those files.. it will reapply codecs or so?
[13:27] <Huufarted> !who | micca
[13:27] <sebsebseb> micca: well the  user data for programs, go in  hidden .folders in home
[13:27] <jonaskoelker> Huufarted: then what's the name of the shell you get dumped into when boot fails?
[13:27] <grawity> Huufarted: I don't think busybox is a distro.
[13:27] <grawity> It's just a minishell.
[13:27] <micca> oki
[13:27] <hbekel> Huufarted: busybox is not a distribution, its a single binary containing bash and a lot of the coreutils
[13:27] <Jimi_Neutral> I have 2 network cards in my box. One is the connected to the outside and one is for drbl only for clonezilla. The internet one is quite happily connected as eth2....eth0 is the one i want to use for drbl...how should i set it up
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: if you run   mount; sudo fdisk -l     you will see where the partitions off each disk are mounted (if at all)
[13:28] <sebsebseb> micca: not sure where  totem folders are without going through my folders,  plus it  could be a bit different in my case anyway since 9.04 beta etc
[13:28] <Huufarted> hbekel: I know what it is, distro is just the first thing that came to mind at 6:30am.  :(
[13:28] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i want to got to sda8
[13:28] <WishingMaster> what should be my command?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: and where does mount say its mounted?
[13:28] <sebsebseb> micca: by deleting those files, it will be like, you have never opened totem before.  a clean install of totem
[13:28] <micca> ok sebsebseb  thanks.. but ye .totem doesnt exist
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: mount     on its own will show where all mounted partitions are mounted including their mount options
[13:29] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> whats a drbl ? is that another host?
[13:29] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i am trying
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: its a 1 word command in terminal
[13:29] <sebsebseb> micca: found it
[13:29] <sebsebseb> micca: ,but my folder is blank
[13:29] <Huufarted> micca:  ~/.gconf/apps/totem
[13:29] <unknown_> hello, anyone know program like ethtool which must be used to enable wakeonlan, but for wireless?
[13:30] <Huufarted> micca:  and ~/.config/totem
[13:30] <unknown_> tried to google for it, but no success
[13:30] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: It is for Clonezilla so i can take and image and clone it using multicasting to about 40 laptops Diskless Remote Boot Linux
[13:30] <sebsebseb> micca: yeah  what he said, and there's   .local/share/.totem or for me anyway
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: alt+f2   type terminal   press enter   type mount   press enter
[13:30] <micca> ok thanks Huufarted and sebsebseb , so i delete all files in both of those folders ye?
[13:30] <sebsebseb> micca: for a clean totem install yeah
[13:30] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i can see the output
[13:30] <Huufarted> micca, yup.  I would just delete the .config/totem and .gconf/apps/totem
[13:30] <micca> okidokie
[13:30] <WishingMaster> but what am i looking for?
[13:31] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, ?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ok can you see the partition you want to copy to in the output?
[13:31] <Smanettone> italian link pleas?
[13:31] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ut for some reason this morning when i turned on my box and got an update, my eth0 was suddenly unmanaged and now i cant set it right
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> !it | Smanettone
[13:31] <sebsebseb> micca: knowing about those .folders is very useful, because then if you get problems with another app
[13:31] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, dude i have to go now catch in  20.
[13:31] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> do you have the previous settings of /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:31] <micca> sebsebseb, i do the same thing ye?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: huh?
[13:31] <micca> okidokie cheers
[13:31] <sebsebseb> micca: yep for a clean install of it
[13:31] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: He's late for an appointment or something.  He's already gone.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: in the mount output can you see /dev/sda8 ?
[13:32] <Jimi_Neutral> well i set the according to a tutorial but they wont stay like that anymore...everytime i reboot it goes to unmanaged
[13:32] <Huufarted> 06:31 -!- WishingMaster [n=WishingM@123.238.21.148] has quit ["Leaving"]
[13:32] <sebsebseb> micca: delete it's .folder and yep
[13:32] <Jimi_Neutral> i freshly installed ubuntu a few days ago just to do this clonezilla thing
[13:32] <abhra> what is the best  browser for ubuntu?it should be fast ,
[13:32] <Jimi_Neutral> i dont even know about linux
[13:32] <micca> ye.. but still didnt fix totem :/
[13:32] <iceroot> why is it possible to use a hdd with linux in another pc without any problems? is there no hardware-config saved in hdd? is this configured every boot again?
[13:32] <sebsebseb> micca: your on 8.10 yeah?
[13:32] <Jimi_Neutral> my boss just told me to do it
[13:32] <micca> yup
[13:32] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> can you post your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[13:32] <Jimi_Neutral> sure
[13:32] <bazhang> !best > abhra
[13:32] <Huufarted> abhra, use w3m from the terminal
[13:32] <mne> Hi, I'm trying to use a google calendar in gnome evolution. It does not seem to work at all. Evolution "sees" the calendar, but neither are events imported nor can I export events from evolution. it seems to be completely broken
[13:33] <sebsebseb> abhra: Konqueror is fast
[13:33] <micca> deleted .config and .gconf (the sub folders called totem )
[13:33] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> this is your job? have you been trained in linux at all?
[13:33] <mshanks> !hald
[13:33] <micca> and running  an .avi or . mpg for exmaple just make sit grey and stops working
[13:33] <Huufarted> micca: lol you scared me...  before finishing reading it, I thought you deleted the entire .gconf
[13:33] <micca> no  ;)
[13:33] <mshanks> !hal
[13:33] <micca> hihi
[13:33] <Jimi_Neutral> no and no
[13:33] <micca> ye i added the rest to avoid that impression x)
[13:33] <Jimi_Neutral> this is not my job i was employed as a MCP
[13:34] <Jimi_Neutral> but suddenly he wants to use clonezilla on linux and expects me to do it
[13:34] <micca> sorry, that was to you Huufarted
[13:34] <sebsebseb> micca: I assuem your on 8.10  so  sudo apt-get install banshee :)
[13:34] <nickname> How can I update ubuntu from the /var/cache/apt/archives folder instead of online (I do not have internet access on the machine)
[13:34] <sebsebseb> micca: also vlc is good for video as well
[13:34] <Kartagis> has anyone used fontforge before?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Jimi_Neutral: could use partimage
[13:34] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: sorry... but one more question... it's read only and I can't seem to change that in permissions also not when I did sudo -s to become root
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !info partimage
[13:34] <iceroot> !anyone | Kartagis
[13:34] <micca> sebsebseb,  yes i got vlc.. it works.. but totem was workign before i got vlc so i just wanted ot fix it.. maybe some dependencies were deleted? banshee .. got ya
[13:34] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: what should I do against that?
[13:34] <miklcct> !
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: unmount it with: sudo umount /media/stick
[13:34] <sebsebseb> micca: ok
[13:35] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: And then mount it again?
[13:35] <Jimi_Neutral> i need multicasting so i cant use partimage
[13:35] <Huufarted> Anybody able to help me with some gigabit NICs that refuse to run at gigabit speeds and only run at 100 mbit?  I have a forum post here so you can see what's happening.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6999623
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: then use the same mount command (use up cursor to review the last commands) the and    -o uid=1000  to the end of it
[13:35] <Kartagis> can I copy a glyph, edit that and save it as another glyph in fontforge?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: this will give normal users full access
[13:35] <mshanks> Hey all - was wondering if any one could offer some advice; I can't get past "Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer Hald" when trying to install on my desktop. (I've verified the CD already and it's ok). Any thoughts?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: dont use sudo -s   use sudo -i   for 'interactive' sudo ;)
[13:36] <iceroot> mshanks: but because of hal, there are always ALL drivers in the system/kernel  e.g. for hardware i am not suing
[13:36] <abhra> !best
[13:36] <nickname> is there a way to update offline, as in from the bunch of deb packages i have, instead of online updates, in other words, can i make it search the cache for updates instead of online? (I don't have internet access on the machine)
[13:36] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: oh that's what it stands  for,  but what does it mean by interactive sudo?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: try it
[13:36] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yes I have used it before
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: type exit to finish
[13:36] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: I did it, but when I do that command again it says it's not mounted (which is true since I unmounted it)
[13:37] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I just didn't know it stood for what you just said, and I was wondering why it stood for that
[13:37] <rogi> help
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Bram_P: if its not in the output of mount then you are ready to remount
[13:37] <sebsebseb> rogi: with what?
[13:37] <clearscreen> you can use 'sudo su' too :P
[13:37] <sebsebseb> !ask
[13:37] <iceroot> rogi: with?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: normal sudo is for one command, intercative sudo allows multiple commands til you type exit
[13:37] <rogi> sorry, i wanted help for irc, i'm new to irc
[13:37] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: yeah as I said I had used it before
[13:37] <Huufarted> actionparsnip, what does sudo -i do that sudo -s doesn't?
[13:38] <sebsebseb> rogi: ok go to #freenode
[13:38] <sebsebseb> rogi:   /join #freenode  type that in
[13:38] <sebsebseb> rogi: or click the link
[13:38] <nickname> !ask
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: The -s (shell) option runs the shell specified by the SHELL environment variable if it is set or the shell as specified in passwd(5). If a command is specified, it is passed to the shell for execution. Otherwise, an interactive shell is executed.
[13:38] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: Ok I have put a little explanation in there as well, sorry it took so long http://paste.ubuntu.com/142763/
[13:39] <sebsebseb> nickname: that's already been done just now
[13:39] <miklcct> !answer
[13:39] <Jimi_Neutral> all this is just for clonezilla lol
[13:39] <miklcct> !ubuntu
[13:39] <miklcct> !ubottu
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: based on that i'd say it spawns an extra shell window with sudo priveledges
[13:39] <sebsebseb> !botabuse |  miklcct
[13:39] <bazhang> miklcct, /msg ubottu please
[13:39] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: so -i keeps you with your current environment variables, etc while -s loads you up as root?
[13:39] <toez10> howdie
[13:40] <sebsebseb> toez10: hi
[13:40] <mshanks> ahoy there
[13:40] <toez10> Glad to be swingin it ubuntu styley
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: yeah pretty much, and as a user you want your variables and environment dont you, and not roots
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> toez10: welcome
[13:40] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: hey.  You suggested I used blkid to see my device UUIDs.  I did, they all match everything in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab.  Got any idea why my boot fails with "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-etc. not found"?
[13:40] <Huufarted> ActionParsnip: yeah.  I understand what you're talking about, I just wanted to make sure I understood it.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Huufarted: best way :D
[13:41] <Bram_P> ActionParsnip: I can't seem to mount it again... what's the command?
[13:41] <toez10> it's been just three days and i gotta say i'm threadin some water here
[13:41] <nickname> how can i install everything in my /var/cache/apt/archives folder? (I copied the updates from another pc there to 'update') though I do not know what to do.
[13:41] <sebsebseb> toez10: ok can we help you with something?
[13:41] <toez10> yep
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: you could resetup grub to make it use the right IDs
[13:41] <sebsebseb> !ask |  toez10
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !grub | jonaskoelker
[13:41] <toez10> couple o things
[13:41] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ummm one side of your server eth2 (WAN) is okay right? so now you only need to concentrate on eth0 for local lan distro of drbl
[13:41] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: did you get that bud?
[13:42] <toez10> is der another chat room for starters??!
[13:42] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[13:42] <ziroday> toez10: this is it
[13:42] <bazhang> !ot > toez10
[13:42] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yup thats exactly right
[13:42] <toez10> righty
[13:42] <mshanks> toez10 this is usually best one
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: read the factoid
[13:42] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: also, where does grub store UUIDs?
[13:42] <sebsebseb> toez10:  if you want Ubuntu help  this is a good channel
[13:42] <Huufarted> bazhang, it's not off topic for him until it's non-Ubuntu related.  :)
[13:42] <sipior> nickname: you can just install whatever packages you want. copying those files to /var/cache/apt simply means that they'll be found by the package manager directly, and don't need to be downloaded (again).
[13:42] <sebsebseb> toez10: if  you want to just talk about ubuntu, the other channel
[13:42] <aaron1> is there a way to fix audio buzz noise ?
[13:42] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> do you still have like network manager enabled? i thought you supposed to disable nm ?
[13:42] <ziroday> jonaskoelker: it doesn't "store" uuids, you hard drives are given them. You can see them with blkid
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: in /etc/fstab. it may be a bug, are you using jaunty?
[13:43] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: yep
[13:43] <toez10> which other channel, my good man?
[13:43] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: im a newb man, never used linux before a few days ago
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: then you know what factoid i'm gonna fire then dont you :0
[13:43] <sebsebseb> toez10: if you want help, just ask here
[13:43] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: im winging all of this so far and just reading tuts and coming in here
[13:43] <sebsebseb> toez10: ask a question
[13:43] <jonaskoelker> ActionParsnip: well, if /etc/fstab agrees with blkid, what would updating grub change?
[13:43] <mshanks> Jimi_Neutral; best way :)
[13:43] <toez10> ok i got some errors arrising
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> jonaskoelker: not sure, maybe jaunty does things differently. head into #ubuntu+1
[13:44] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yeah would be if my boss wernt on my back to get this done
[13:44] <sebsebseb> toez10: what errors?
[13:44] <mafsi> anyone can help me to make the bios to beep?
[13:44] <sebsebseb> mafsi: wrong channel try #hardware
[13:44] <Pricey> mafsi: the bios doesn't beep
[13:44] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> newbieness in linux is not that much relevant here, more of you have to know your networking stuff
[13:44] <toez10> basically inthe terminal it said
[13:44] <toez10> ...
[13:44] <sebsebseb> mafsi: and indeed at what Pricey said
[13:44] <mshanks> my bios quacks ¬.¬
[13:44] <mafsi> sebsebseb: even if is about ubuntu?
[13:44] <sebsebseb> mafsi: your BIOS dosna't really have anything to do with Ubuntu
[13:44] <aaron1> anyone know how to fix audio buzzing noise
[13:44] <toez10> manually run dpkg --configure a    to correct prob
[13:44] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: but u need to know how to do that linux stuff and i dont
[13:44] <sebsebseb> mafsi: your BIOS has to do with your computer hardware
[13:45] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: sorry i mean do that networking stuff in linux
[13:45] <mshanks> aaron1; speakers/headphones? You checked with them another device first? And checked volume levels?
[13:45] <mafsi> sebsebseb: my bios is ok at least in windows; pc speaker can be heard but not in linux
[13:45] <aaron1> its fine on windows side
[13:45] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> basically from my quick glance of drbl and clonezilla, one nic is dedicated for serving into a local lan, and you set up a DHCP server
[13:45] <aaron1> linux i hear buzzzzzzz
[13:45] <sebsebseb> mafsi: ok that's not got anything to do with your bios I expect
[13:45] <ziroday> aaron1: try lower the PCM volume
[13:45] <aaron1> pcm ?
[13:45] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: all that bit is done
[13:45] <sebsebseb> mafsi: your speakers just need setting up in Ubuntu
[13:46] <ziroday> aaron1: go to the volume mixer, make sure PCM isn't at the max
[13:46] <allen> can anyone help me with a desktop problem
[13:46] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: its just this morning my eth0 reverted to unmanaged
[13:46] <sebsebseb> allen: depends on what it is
[13:46] <sebsebseb> !helpme > allen
[13:46] <sebsebseb> !ask > allen
[13:46] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i had some problems with clonezilla but thats another story
[13:46] <unr3a1> hey all... I was curious as to how I can burn an .avi file as a DVD video?
[13:46] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> am not sure what you meant by unmanaged? which app do you expect it to manage?
[13:46] <allen> i did a new ubuntu 8.10 install and i cant see the desktop after i logon
[13:46] <aaron1> wheres volume mixer
[13:46] <micca> i want to set up an irc server for a workgroup. which package could i use from apt-get i couldnt find unrealircd
[13:46] <mafsi> sebsebseb: i have a plugin for weechat that suppose to make motherboard to bip when someone say my nake in channel; but i hear no beep; plugin is ok
[13:47] <sebsebseb> mafsi: weechat not used that
[13:47] <allen> after i logon all i see is the mouse and a brown screen
[13:47] <AnjinRo> hello guys
[13:47] <sebsebseb> AnjinRo: hi
[13:47] <unknown_> hi
[13:47] <toez10> hey thanks for the friendly welcome however i just found a friend on gmail to give me a hand see ya l8rz
[13:47] <sebsebseb> mafsi: weechat  is a instant messenger?
[13:47] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i dont expect it to manage anything.....yesterday when i hovered on network connections it said eth0 now when i do the same it says unmanaged
[13:47] <AnjinRo> i have a trouble with my ubuntu... can i get some support here?
[13:47] <aaron1> where is the volume mixer ?
[13:48] <sebsebseb> !sound
[13:48] <mshanks> !ask > AnjinRo
[13:48] <mafsi> sebsebseb: yeap
[13:48] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> thats what i meant, what tools are you using to see this manage vs unmanage?
[13:48] <allen> ??? no one
[13:48] <micca> i want to set up an irc server for a workgroup. which package could i use from apt-get i couldnt find unrealircd.. any suggestions?
[13:48] <sebsebseb> mafsi: ok  well  programs, dont' make your motherboard beep
[13:48] <Soyo> So I just changed smb.conf to fix some permission issues, but when I goto /etc/init.d/ and type [samba restart] or even just [samba] it says command not found, but yet if I type ls samba is listed... confused. Samba is working on the network so it must installed, but I do not want to do  complete reboot because I have 13 tabs open in firefox (Also I have no GUI so this must be done from command line)
[13:48] <Jimi_Neutral> oh i just left clock on the network monitor at the top of the screen, next to the sound icon
[13:48] <allen> i just cant see the desktop
[13:48] <mshanks> micca, suggest looking at http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircd/ first
[13:49] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: oh i just left click on the network monitor at the top of the screen, next to the sound icon
[13:49] <allen> this hasnt happened to no one?
[13:49] <sebsebseb> allen: ok xorg issue
[13:49] <Soyo> allen I am in the same boat
[13:49] <abhra> is there any software which can convert ebooks into mobipocket format?
[13:49] <sebsebseb> allen: which Ubuntu?  how old is your graphics card?
[13:49] <allen> is it x org not installed?
[13:49] <sebsebseb> !xorg
[13:49] <allen> 8.10 ubuntu
[13:49] <IndyGunFreak> micca, why not just register a channel on an established server?
[13:49] <Soyo> I have had no desktop since the last ubuntu update
[13:49] <Huufarted> xorg is installed if you're seeing the mouse
[13:50] <hbekel> mafsi: check if echo -e '\07' makes it beep
[13:50] <allen> graphics card is onboard
[13:50] <sebsebseb> Soyo: no desktop????
[13:50] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> per this http://drbl.sourceforge.net/  step 5   it says do not use network manager (gui icons)
[13:50] <sebsebseb> allen: ok is the computer old?
[13:50] <mshanks> micca, depending on where you're planning on hosting the server, I'd strongly suggest checking that IRCd's are allowed - they are banned in most places
[13:50] <AnjinRo> !raidokey, my problem is about RAID, i have a RAID 0 on this computer... first time grub dont start so i installed ubuntu again with RAID stopped, and it work. But it doesnt recognize mine RAID partition. What i can do?
[13:50] <allen> i did the install on two computer
[13:50] <micca> thank you mshanks , and oh... didnt know that :(
[13:50] <AnjinRo> damn
[13:50] <AnjinRo> without !
[13:50] <sebsebseb> allen: ok, but they will have differnet hardware
[13:50] <sipior> allen: if you move your .gnome2 directory elsewhere temporarily, can you access gnome normally?
[13:50] <micca> well... I wanted to run the server as then I can provide several services as opposed to just owning a channel
[13:50] <Leon_Nardella> Anybody else having freezes with ext4 on Jaunty under heavy IO ( 'make clean', 'rm -rf' on 1GB source trees ) ?
[13:50] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ie do not rely on network manager when using dbrl,
[13:51] <Soyo> I can do like "firefox --display :0" and it works fine, but the desktop is absolutely black. no menu either
[13:51] <micca> that was to IndyGunFreak
[13:51] <sebsebseb> sipior: if he  even understands what that means, I got a feeling he is new
[13:51] <n8tuser> Leon_Nardella -> please go to #ubuntu+1
[13:51] <allen> i can acsess terminal
[13:51] <sipior> sebsebseb: well, we must start somewhere.
[13:51] <Huufarted> micca: I'd still recommend using a channel on an existing network.  FAR easier to maintain.
[13:51] <sebsebseb> sipior: yep
[13:51] <micca> mshanks well... I wanted to run the server as then I can provide several services as opposed to just owning a channel
[13:51] <allen> i reinstalled but no luck
[13:51] <mshanks> micca, if it's for your work network, then if you put a server in the building, which you own, then it's fine (Cause it's up to you, and it's private)
[13:52] <allen> both of these computers are from the same time frame
[13:52] <sipior> allen: a complete reinstall? including a new user home directory?
[13:52] <xuser_> hello to everybody
[13:52] <mshanks> but if you want it publically available, you'll need to find an appropriate host. they are around, but a lot of typical server hosting companies don't allow them. just check T&C
[13:52] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: I know bud, thats what i am saying.....i used gedit /etc/network/interfaces to manually set it but now when i reboot and i look at eth0 again it says unmanaged and all this has been happening since i updated this mroning
[13:52] <sebsebseb> xuser_: hi
[13:52] <AnjinRo> !raid
[13:52] <allen> i reinstalled 2-3times
[13:52] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> did you remove or purge network manager per that instruction on step 5 ?
[13:52] <Soyo> So I just changed smb.conf to fix some permission issues, but when I goto /etc/init.d/ and type [samba restart] or even just [samba] it says command not found, but yet if I type ls samba is listed... confused. Samba is working on the network so it must installed, but I do not want to do  complete reboot because I have 13 tabs open in firefox (Also I have no GUI so this must be done from command line)
[13:52] <micca> mshanks hmm.. its different.. will later on set it up (or would want to at least) for a committee im part of at an university.. but wanted to set it up for now on my box basically to practice it all first before porting it over to the uni server
[13:52] <sebsebseb> allen: what your is the computer from?
[13:52] <sebsebseb> allen: what year?
[13:52] <Jimi_Neutral> i wasnt follwoing that tut so no cause the one i was following didnt tell me o do that
[13:52] <mat1211> Hi, does anyone here know how I would modify users so they can upload to a dir other than home?
[13:53] <allen> 2003 i think
[13:53] <micca> is that illegal or legal? (the internet ip im on for now.. is a private home ip)
[13:53] <sebsebseb> allen: ok that's oldish
[13:53] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well do remove or purge it,
[13:53] <xuser_> have you ever tried to use aircrack ng on ubuntu?
[13:53] <allen> its a 2.53pentuim4
[13:53] <mshanks> micca, nothing stopping you doing it in your own house (again, i'd suggest doing it on a machine not accessible from the internet just incase - it might void your T&C for home connection) - but nothing stopping you trying it out
[13:53] <sebsebseb> sipior: maybe his card isn't supourted by 8.10?
[13:53] <n8tuser> micca -> not its not illegal
[13:53] <allen> socket 478
[13:53] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: will i lose this connection to WAN?
[13:53] <sipior> allen: that doesn't answer the question. did you delete your home directory during the install?
[13:53] <micca> mat , you could add a group id for all users.. and then give access to that group to the folde ryou have in midn i would think
[13:54] <allen> i see the login screen just fine
[13:54] <mshanks> if it's for your uni, they might even be prepared to offer some help, or at least a machine dedicated for you to use - I know a few that do. Worth having a chat with them :)
[13:54] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you should not but if you do, you can always bring up eth2
[13:54] <Soyo> allen: me too! but then it goes black after that
[13:54] <Azoff> hello
[13:54] <sebsebseb> Azoff: hi
[13:54] <allen> my desktop did go black but now its just brown with a cursor
[13:54] <Azoff> I am about to setup ubuntu server with kvm
[13:54] <n8tuser> !who | Jimi_Neutral
[13:54] <sebsebseb> Soyo: which version of Ubuntu?  how old is the computer/graphics card?
[13:55] <micca> ok , just sounded like someone saying not allowed... so the thign is I want to runt he irc server.. AND use it across the internet for specific members only (sure I coudl reg a channel by all means.. but I am later on going to develop our infrastructure on the aforementioned uni server.. so want ot tinker around on my hgome box first)...
[13:55] <Kimi> Hi
[13:55] <Azoff> but how do I make the guest appear on the same network as the host without NAT?
[13:55] <nickname> how can i install updates offline? (I have around 437 files - i got the .deb files from a pc that has internet, how can i install them?)
[13:55] <sebsebseb> !offline
[13:55] <allen> everything is good except i cannot see the two taskbars
[13:56] <Azoff> I want to be able to access the guests without the need of some forwarod or something like that.
[13:56] <sebsebseb> nickname: see above
[13:56] <Kimi> i changed sscreen resolutions... and now tried all the resolutions that are shown in that box..... but still cant get a good resolution... i mean all the windows doesnt fit to the screen when i click maximize..... and also. the icons in the screen are large and  they are gone even down the task bar... help me plz
[13:56] <micca> ok , just sounded like someone saying not allowed... so the thign is I want to runt he irc server.. AND use it across the internet for specific members only (sure I coudl reg a channel by all means.. but I am later on going to develop our infrastructure on the aforementioned uni server.. so want ot tinker around on my hgome box first)...  mshanks n8tuser  any feedback on this?
[13:56] <mat1211> Sorry, how would I add the folder to the group access? would this be possible in terminal lol
[13:56] <mshanks> micca, i'd suggest; set it up on ahome machine (not on internet) to begin with
[13:57] <nickname> nevermind, i found it: I tried: dpkg -i -R /var/cache/apt/archives as root!
[13:57] <Soyo> sebsebseb Ubuntu Server 8.10 the graphics card is ancient
[13:57] <Magishen> uhm when i try and mount a volume it says "cannot mount volume, you are not privileged to mount this volume" How do i get around this sudo it or something?
[13:57] <mshanks> it's not the smallest job  -will take you a bit of time to understand whats going on
[13:57] <Azoff> I have setup a bridge as the "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#Creating a network bridge on the host" states, but I my guests still appear on the 192.168.122.* C-network
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: ok that's your problem I expect
[13:57] <micca> kimi: that sounds like a typical thing with unbranded laptops .. are you on a laptop kimi.. if so which one?
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: 8.10 has a completly differnet version of xorg  from 8.04, and it lacks suppourt for older cards
[13:57] <mshanks> then I'd look at finding a small cheap host that allows an IRCd for a *very* small network (make sure to stress the smallness... perhaps impose a connection limit). go from there
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: also for servers 8.04 is recommended anyway
[13:57] <micca> mshanks.. ye.. well I guess I like to learn.. but I =only got one box atm.. (one laptop)
[13:57] <sebsebseb> Soyo: since it's long term suppourt unlike 8.10
[13:57] <micca> can i not make the server private?
[13:57] <mshanks> you could also ask your ISP if you'd be allowed to do it from your house (but bear in mind, the bandwidth implications etc)
[13:58] <Kimi> micca NO
[13:58] <Azoff> btw, the host is running 8.04 server
[13:58] <allen> the cursor is visable the background is visable the logon screen is visable the terminal is visable
[13:58] <micca> kimi: ok
[13:58] <Kimi> micca mine is a viewsonic LCD monitor
[13:58] <Magishen> uhm when i try and mount a volume it says "cannot mount volume, you are not privileged to mount this volume" How do i get around this sudo it or something
[13:58] <sipior> allen: you haven't answered my question regarding your .gnome2 directory. if you don't understand it, that's fine, and i'm happy to elaborate. but an acknowledgment would be nice.
[13:58] <Soyo> The graphics card not compatable with the new update, because it worked fine before the last update.
[13:58] <Kimi> micca and i am not getting the right resoltion shown in that preferences box
[13:58] <sebsebseb> Soyo: update as in 8.04 to 8.10???/
[13:58] <allen> sipior im sorry i dont get it
[13:58] <micca> mshanks, well.. if I would password protect it.. the server owuld only allow about 20 people now when in testing at home.... is that not ok? you think?
[13:59] <allen> not trying to be rude my apologies
[13:59] <mat1211> Who ever had problem with mounting, yeah sudo usually works.
[13:59] <Magishen> whats the sudo command?
[13:59] <sebsebseb> !sudo
[13:59] <sipior> allen: you have a terminal open? if you type "ls -al" in it, you'll get a list of directories. one of those should be called ".gnome2" (note the dot)
[13:59] <Kimi> !sudo > Magishen
[13:59] <micca> Kimi... well.. it sounds like you need to get your refresh rates etc correct and edit the xconf file (erm i havent done x in erm 8 yrs or so) ask someone for a link to the bot for xconf or Xwindows or osmething
[13:59] <mshanks> I honestly don't know - it depends on your ISP - I'd suggest asking them first
[13:59] <Kimi> micca ?!
[13:59] <mshanks> micca, and remember if those 20 people use it regularly, it might have noticable impact on your bandwidth usage
[13:59] <Magishen> what i just type sudo in yerminal and its unmounted
[14:00] <Soyo> 8.10 was working ok, but then I downloaded the latest update (a couple months ago) and it stop loading the gnome desktop (logs in ok but black screen)
[14:00] <mat1211> In terminal what would I type to add a folder to group access?
[14:00] <sipior> allen: if you try moving that directory; say, via "mv .gnome2 .gnome2.backup", and then log out, and back in, does your problem go away?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Soyo: any idea what you installed?
[14:00] <micca> ok.. but mshanks... well... since i will be setting up a test env. I can shut down the server and the guys are fine with it.. I just don thave time to set it up and learn it all when it goes onto the uni server
[14:00] <Kimi> micca ?? means you dont know to help me now ?
[14:00] <micca> i need a test environment which also lets
[14:00] <sebsebseb> Soyo: is the computer only used as a server? or do you use it for desktop usage as well?
[14:00] <Kimi> does anyone use how to solve my problem ??!
[14:00] <allen> how do i open a terminal?
[14:00] <Magishen> o ffs! dw about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:01] <micca> kimi: I didnt do X for 7 yrs.. im just saying I used to solve those problems years and years ago.. my suggestion is that you need to look into Xconf
[14:01] <Kimi> allen appplica > access > terminal
[14:01] <sebsebseb> allen:  applications > assesories > terminal
[14:01] <sipior> allen: sorry, i thought you said you had one open. you can get it from the main menu.
[14:01] <Soyo> its mostly a server
[14:01] <allen> i cant see my aplications
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Soyo: ok  you should run 8.04 on it then
[14:01] <micca> and find the correct values to enter for vendor, refresh rates vertcially and horizontally for yoru montior
[14:01] <sebsebseb> Soyo: that' recommended for servers, plus your card should work fine there
[14:01] <Kimi> micca i don know what is Xconf :( i am only 1 month old to ubuntu
[14:01] <micca> althoor something along those lines
[14:01] <Magishen> HOW DO I MOUNT LOL ITS NOT LETTIN ME??????????????????????
[14:01] <Kimi> !Xconf
[14:01] <incorrect> I want to configure X from the command line,  what is the best method?
[14:02] <allen> what keys do i press to open a terminal?
[14:02] <micca> well i installe dubuntu yesterday! :P kimi: google xconf or ask the bot.. ah kimi: its something along the lines incorrect  just is asking
[14:02] <Magishen> dw with ur command line crap
[14:02] <micca> i can theklpo yuo more.. sorry
[14:02] <Magishen> help me with my mountin prob
[14:02] <Soyo> I guess that means I have to do some backing up then
[14:02] <Kimi> micca :P you installed yesteraday ? :P
[14:02] <sebsebseb> Soyo: and if you use the server edition you get  5 years of suppourt with  8.04,  desktop version only 3 years
[14:02] <sipior> allen: i think there is a hotkey combination to open a terminal, but i'm damned if i remember what it is...anybody?
[14:02] <Nasra> !kernel
[14:02] <Nasra> hello all
[14:02] <Kimi> !confX > Kimi
[14:02] <allen> lol sipior
[14:02] <Nasra> hello sebsebseb
[14:02] <Magishen> OI WHAT DA FUK U HELPO KIMI CUZ SHE IS A GAL HELP ME
[14:02] <sebsebseb> Soyo: well now it's like 4 years of supourt left for server
[14:02] <Huufarted> sipior: Alt-F2
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: hi
[14:03] <Nasra> you okay?
[14:03] <Nasra> good
[14:03] <sipior> Huufarted: cheers
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yeah, but not meant to do general chat in here
[14:03] <Nasra> just reading some stuffs here
[14:03] <Nasra> networking
[14:03] <Nasra> just learning some stuffs
[14:03] <Magishen> oi ok how do i mount a label
[14:03] <Huufarted> sipior: NP
[14:03] <sipior> allen: try "Alt-F2", see if that doesn't start a terminal for you.
[14:03] <micca> mshanks, ok but lets say ISP is ifne with it (tbh.. I dont give a crap.. I do not intend to let the bandwidtch get out of hand... when im testing I will only keep 3 people on it miost likely anyway.. my secretaries and the lad im gonna help run some web stuff).. do you really think bandwidth can get that out of hand? :/
[14:03] <Magishen> it says im not allowed
[14:03] <Magishen> thx guys!!!!
[14:03] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yeah, but your also off topic if you say that stuff in here
[14:03] <Kimi> Magishen, I am a GUY
[14:03] <micca> MAgishen use sudo in front
[14:03] <Nasra> sebsebseb: tha is okay...no problem...
[14:03] <Huufarted> sipior, gotta be careful telling that to noobies.  It switches their entire screen to a console.  They may not know how to get back to X
[14:04] <Soyo> sebsebseb sounds like a good idea, I just have to back everything up now (which I should be doing already but I just started with linux)
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Nasra: pm or im if you want to chat
[14:04] <Nasra> okay
[14:04] <Magishen> wtf i dont use sudo infornt of anything!!!!!!!!!! i only isntalled ubuntu so i dont get hacked from conflictor that aprils fools virus
[14:04] <allen> alt f2 didnt work rebooted the system
[14:04] <mshanks> micca, no, not in that instance - but isp might have a problem if they can detect you hosting an IRCd..
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Soyo: what kind of server?
[14:04] <mshanks> but, similarly, it's just as likely it will be absolutely fine :)
[14:04] <sipior> Huufarted: that's "ctrl-alt-F2" you mean. he'll need a proper gnome-terminal
[14:04] <micca> hehe Huufarted , when i installeed ubuntu yest.. i hit alt f5 instead of alt 5 , n changed display... thank god i rememebred from 5 yrs ago that it shud be somewhere
[14:04] <Magishen> ok when i goto places n goto my thing i wnat to mount
[14:04] <micca> so i did f1 and it says display loading but nothing ever happened
[14:04] <sebsebseb> Magishen: lol and
[14:04] <Magishen> it says im not allowed
[14:04] <sebsebseb> !language
[14:04] <mshanks> Like I said, i honestly don't know - personally I'd give them a quick call and ask, but it's up to you
[14:04] <sipior> allen: try "alt-F7" to get back :-)
[14:04] <Kimi> micca can you plz help me A LITTLE ? ;'(
[14:04] <Soyo> Samba, I have CNC machines that run on DOS which need to log into it
[14:04] <micca> but found it on f7 :D
[14:05] <micca> kimi: look
[14:05] <Huufarted> sipior: sorry you're right.  ctrl-alt-F2.  Too darned early for me.  :(
[14:05] <sebsebseb> Magishen: see above regarding language
[14:05] <Guest4194> OLá
[14:05] <micca> I said about what I know.. google Xwindows
[14:05] <Guest4194> algum brasileiro na sala
[14:05] <Kimi> micca ? ! i am getting right
[14:05] <Kimi> *not getting right
[14:05] <micca> and look for configuring an LCD screen
[14:05] <Magishen> no i dont care about langauge i know c++ i cna own anything how do I mount somethin when its not lettin me
[14:05] <Huufarted> !po
[14:05] <penguincentral> i have a midi file that i want to convert to sheet music.  how do i do that on ubuntu?
[14:05] <micca> you need to find from your vendor the actual refresh rates or something
[14:05] <Magishen> gosh help
[14:05] <Magishen> me
[14:05] <Huufarted> !pr
[14:05] <micca> and edit your conf file
[14:05] <Magishen> EVERYONE STOP TYPIN FOR M1 MIN! GOSH
[14:05] <Magishen> HELP ME
[14:05] <Huufarted> guest4194: portugues?
[14:05] <Guest4194> yes
[14:05] <sebsebseb> Magishen: and it seems a lot of people that go to another OS to get away from Windows viruses, have done so for the wrong reasons.
[14:05] <Guest4194> i'm braziliam
[14:05] <Huufarted> Anybody know the abbreviation for portuguese?
[14:05] <Kimi> micca but it is working yesterday and not today
[14:06] <sipior> allen: actually, if you try "ctrl-alt-F1", do you get a login prompt?
[14:06] <sebsebseb> !rules |  Magishen
[14:06] <Magishen> SEBSEBSEB U R RMY FRIEND HELP ME OK
[14:06] <Nasra> Mgishen: just ask the question....don't shout !
[14:06] <Huufarted> guest4194, this is the English speaking channel,  There is a channel dedicated to Portuguese support, however!
[14:06] <DJones> !pt | Huufarted
[14:06] <Jostein> yo
[14:06] <Guest4194> ok. thanks
[14:06] <micca> ok mshanks.. sorry for repeating the questions.. but it was helpful... in case I do get an ISP warning.. the thing is IM renting here.. so lol.. my owner would get the notice.. and he wopuuld prolly go w00t.. then id go w00t and say ok ill switch it off.. then ISP prolly will say ok no problem
[14:06] <Magishen> oi sebsebseb
[14:06] <Magishen> where r u
[14:06] <Huufarted> Sweet, thanks DJones.  :)  Go there, Guest4194
[14:06] <Magishen> come n talk 2 me
[14:06] <Magishen> ok
[14:06] <Jostein> ?
[14:06] <FloodBot2> Magishen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <sebsebseb> Magishen: this is a busy channel :)  you must respect that or pm people
[14:06] <Magishen> enter is my punctuation
[14:06] <Magishen> noob
[14:06] <micca> i have no intention of running any full on hardcore server services
[14:07] <Huufarted> !noob | magishen
[14:07] <mshanks> micca, that's very likely - especially if you're keeping the activity that small, if they do have a problem, holding your hands up and saying sorry and turning it off would most likely be fine
[14:07] <allen> slackware pmajic ophcrack all work in the live-cd forms
[14:07] <Magishen> whats jfgi!! rtfm
[14:07] <Magishen> whats that mean
[14:07] <grawity> Magishen: Shut up. Either respect other users or nobody will help you.
[14:07] <eterna1> haha
[14:07] <Magishen> LOL AT EVERYONE TELLIN ME OFF
[14:07] <Magishen> MAYBE IF U HELPED ME U PANZIES
[14:07] <mshanks> micca, start reading some documentation and tutorials on setting up and running an IRCd. There's quite a bit to get through. But good luck with it :)
[14:07] <micca> ok mshanks.. thanks though for pointing it out ot me :) now.. to the initial question.. (even if its a steep learning curve) anyone got a suggestion for a irc daemon to use on ubuntu or how o getit?
[14:07] <nyaa> Magishen I sent you a message =
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Magishen: I may help you in pm, but  in here hummmm
[14:08] <micca> lol ok you beat it to me mshanks.. if there is no apt-get solution.. ill go off and google it then xx
[14:08] <sipior> Magishen: you can ask one of the ops for your money back, if you like.
[14:08] <Nasra> Magishen: are  you fine today?
[14:08] <Huufarted> !ops | magishen
[14:08] <eterna1> Magishen Maybe if you showed some respect people will take the time and listen
[14:08] <Soyo> Magishen: <-- if you type someones name with a colon it will show up in color
[14:08] <datruth> I really need help with bridging my openvpn with my wireless can anyone help me with this?
[14:08] <Magishen> magishen: blue
[14:08] <jpds> Magishen: Please stay civil.
[14:08] <Magishen> SOYO IS A LIAR
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:08] <Magishen> MY NAME DIDNT VBECOME BLUE
[14:08] <Soyo> lol
[14:08] <jpds> !caps | Magishen
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Magishen: be careful or you get booted
[14:08] <ikonia> Magishen: what's up
[14:08] <Nasra> Magishen have a coffe or something so  you  ralax alittle bit
[14:09] <dmsuperman> I get occasional (seemingly random) massive spikes in that appear to max out a core: http://imagebin.ca/view/i764AP.html
[14:09] <dmsuperman> The blue graph is CPU. During this time, the cursor moves around, but that is the only thing that happens. Audio freezes, typing and clicking have no effect, etc.
[14:09]  * grawity gives a box of thanks to Myrtti
[14:09] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: I think that ban was a bit quick, he wanted help, just didn't know about the channel rules
[14:09] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: he's not banned
[14:09] <Myrtti> Magishen: calm down, dear
[14:09] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: use 'top' or my favorite 'htop' to see what the offending process(es) are.
[14:09] <eterna1> is tomcat avail in the standard application list for updating?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !find tomcat
[14:10] <edthefox> jpds: Is this irc101?
[14:10] <micca> oh and a small question since im getting used to ubuntu... if I see a package but havent installed it .. and want to get some info of it (in a terminal) eg.  oftc-hybrid.. is there a way to access its info? or do i have to google it?
[14:10] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: That's the problem, the window doesn't redraw during this time and by the time it returns to normal the process is no longer up there
[14:10] <jpds> micca: apt-cache show oftc-hybrid
[14:10] <eterna1> lol thanx
[14:10] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Unless it's X, which typically sits at the top of the list
[14:10] <Myrtti> Magishen: hopefully you're a bit more composed now?
[14:11] <Michaelwoo2009> hi, every, i have a problem about gtk problems, all the app base on gtk show rigging angle on button and textbox, and so on. And it is arc angle before.
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, run it in a terminal window
[14:11] <mshanks> micca, i suspect there isn't an ircd in apt (might be wrong but i'd be suprised) - you're going to need to compile and sset up your self probably
[14:11] <prince_jammys> micca: apt-cache show package_name. you never have to google to browse packages, unless you're reading reviews, screenshots, etc.
[14:11] <AnjinRo> wine is working fine? i mean... to open windows based applications...
[14:11] <jpds> micca: Or open the Synaptic Package Manager in System -> Admin and read the info there.
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, you can run it from an ssh session as well
[14:11] <jpds> mshanks: There are.
[14:11] <datruth> oh 72hrs still no results
[14:11] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: That doesn't help, since it's X that locks up
[14:11] <Jarie> so I heard that Ubuntu is the most problematic Linux distro.. and that you should use Mandriva or openSUSE if you want a very tinker / random weird issues experience
[14:11] <Nasra> Magishen is probably gone by now....
[14:11] <Jarie> thats what our university teacher is teaching to us
[14:11] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: run it from an ssh session ran from a different PC
[14:11] <Jarie> I mean t
[14:11] <Magishen> nah im gettin help
[14:11] <Magishen> im still here
[14:11] <sebsebseb> Nasra: nah he is here
[14:12] <Jarie>  and that you should use Mandriva or openSUSE if you want a very tinker-free / random weird issues Free experience
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I don't have a different PC to use, sadly :(
[14:12] <Nasra> oh
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Magishen: who is helping you? reply to my pm
[14:12] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, not even a windows PC?
[14:12] <Soyo> Anyone know how to restart samba when /etc/init.d/ shows samba in it but typing [samba restart] or [samba] says command not found...
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Is there maybe like a CPU hogs history app?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: ubuntu is convenient but isnt really for tinkerers to the degree that other distros allow
[14:12] <mshanks> Jarie; it's all a matter of taste and preference.
[14:12] <allen> i am attempting to boot from the live cd in safe graphics mode
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: i wouldnt say it was problematic any thing
[14:12] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I have no other PCs here :(
[14:13] <Jarie> ive been hearing that Ubuntu users have to post way more forum posts about problems than like Mandriva
[14:13] <Jarie> that theres just tons of issues
[14:13] <micca> cheers prince_jammys jpds and mshanks .. well mshanks , when i typed ircd in terminal , apt suggested oftc-hybrid + ircd-irc2
[14:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb : can I run another flavour of linux on top of Ubuntu as live cd mode?
[14:13] <orifice_work> how can I Install from the command line off a live cd ?
[14:13] <allen> when i installed ubuntu all the menus showed up with no problem
[14:13] <micca> so I guess ircd-irc2 is a daemon
[14:13] <orifice_work> is there a text mode installer?
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Nasra: nah, but you can virtual machine one
[14:13] <tv7497> guys is there any way to upgrade to jaunty beta release from the iso file of jaunty ? i tried gmountiso but of no use
[14:13] <Nasra> how is that/
[14:13] <mshanks> micca; no harm in installing and seeing what happens :)
[14:13] <Nasra> ?
[14:13] <grawity> Jarie: Mostly because many Ubuntu users are new to Linux.
[14:13] <prince_jammys> !minimal | orifice_work
[14:13] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, there could be from a 3rd party app, but i DON'T KNOW OF ONE RIGHT OFF HAND.
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Jarie: trolling the Ubuntu chanenl is not good. and each OS has it's issues
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> orifice_work: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <thing>
[14:13] <Huufarted> dmsuperman, you can try ctrl-alt-F2 and run top from there
[14:13] <mshanks> Jarie; perhaps that means they have more vocal communities, so the forums are used more. Or perhaps your lecturer has a bias against ubuntu. Or perhaps he's right.
[14:13] <Jarie> what im not trolling
[14:13] <Jarie> I'm curious
[14:13] <Soyo> !samba restart
[14:13] <prince_jammys> orifice_work: there's the alternate cd, and the minimal cd
[14:14] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how  you do that run as Virtual Machine?
[14:14] <Soyo> !samba
[14:14] <mshanks> Jarie; but the beauty is they're all free, so any one can try them all and decide for themselves
[14:14] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: sorry about the caps 2 messages back.  :(  That was unintentional
[14:14] <jcfp> Soyo: use the full path, i.e. '/etc/init.d/samba restart'
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: its due to the large uptake of the distro
[14:14] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I can run it in the terminal, but like I said by the time it unfreezes there's nothing in the list
[14:14] <micca> well .. no harm.... settign up an irc daemon could provide a security hole I guess ^^
[14:14] <micca> :P:P
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Nasra: get the binary for linux hosts from http://www.virtualbox.org
[14:14] <Nasra> sebsebseb: thought I could arrange that in the Bios?
[14:14] <jpds> micca: Any service can.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox
[14:14] <Jarie> is it possible to install ubuntu with NO junk in it (i dont like all those apps... i dont want ANY apps)
[14:14] <Soyo> jcfp: I'll give it a shot
[14:14] <sipior> allen: i need to go in a few minutes, but i think the problem is in your .gnome2 directory. sometimes gnome gets a little confused, leaving it in an awkward state. that would explain why you get a background and cursor, but no toolbars. if you move that directory temporarily, you force gnome to reinitialise it, hopefully fixing your problem. alternatively, making a new account would be a quick way to verify that that is where the problem lies. good luck!
[14:14] <Huufarted> dmsuperman: Ctrl-Alt-F2 will run the terminal without worrying about X.  So if X is locked up, it won't affect the terminal that way.
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Jarie: and  Mandriva is known as a noobs distro big time,  more so than Ubuntu, but Ubuntu  is just better :)
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Jarie: I mean that is by the people that know about Mandriva
[14:15] <mshanks> micca; a hole is ok if there's nothing behind it to steal :p
[14:15] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Hrm, good idea I didn't even think of it
[14:15] <orifice_work> Thanks guys.  I was using minibuntu, but there's no installation bundled with that 'distro'
[14:15] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: Now I must hope it spikes soon, I'm at work :P
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: you can use minimal or server to install a kernel + bootloader, you can then build a system from the ground up
[14:15] <Jarie> I mean I tried using Linux and reminded me of like getting a Dell and having TONS of random Junkware installed
[14:15] <Jarie> except Linux was way worse
[14:15] <Jarie> they put like 100 programs in
[14:15] <Jarie> that I didnt ever want to use
[14:15] <Huufarted> lol ok.  good luck dmsuperman.  I'd still recommend a second PC to ssh into it
[14:15] <FloodBot2> Jarie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <ikonia> Jarie: don't use it then
[14:15] <allen> ok sipior ive got the live cd to boot
[14:15] <micca> jpds: true.. but at least the out of box settings are somewhat safe.. me adding an irc deamon  mshanks.. lol nothing apart from personal videos and piucs of ex? ;p
[14:15] <micca> (hihi kidding)
[14:15] <micca> (kinda)
[14:15] <Jarie> No I dont want them on my hard drive, it upsets me
[14:15] <ikonia> Jarie: it's that simple, if it's not what you want/like try a different distro/os
[14:15] <Magishen> (stfu)
[14:15] <Jarie> i dont want 50,000 files filesystem
[14:15] <allen> where is this gnome2 dir located?
[14:15] <prince_jammys> Jarie: install from the minimal CD, and then install whatever you want.
[14:16] <ikonia> Magishen: don't use that language please
[14:16] <Magishen> ok soz!
[14:16] <ikonia> Jarie: don't use it then - as I have said, ranting about it in here won't change that
[14:16] <Magishen> (sthu)!
[14:16] <Boohbah> micca: that reminds me, i need to delete those pics of my ex
[14:16] <Jarie> I thought the whole point of Linux was that unlike Microsoft you could not be victim to having all this weird crap you dont want, but every Linux distro I try is the opposite
[14:16] <prince_jammys> Jarie: install from the minimal CD, and then install whatever you want.
[14:16] <micca> Jarie, in all honesty, i was mandrake in the ol days (so mandriva i guess).. n i just tryign ubuntu now.. gotta say its got a great feel to it so far (and yes.. hope this does not insult anyone.. but also partially due to several similar aspects and gui layouts like vista which i have gotten used to)
[14:16] <eterna1> !find firefox
[14:17] <Jarie> minimal CD has nothing at all?
[14:17] <evelyette> hi
[14:17] <ikonia> Jarie: you can install/ install what you want
[14:17] <eterna1> !find firefox
[14:17] <ikonia> Jarie: sorry, install/uninstall
[14:17] <Jarie> is the minimal one fully supported?
[14:17] <evelyette> I have a problem with my usb external hard drive...when I plug it in dmesg reports: [28864.365369] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port
[14:17] <Myrtti> !list
[14:17] <evelyette> anybody know what's going on ?
[14:17] <eterna1> is newest firefox in the synaptic update manager?
[14:17] <jpds> Tcl: ping
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: it boots and you install from the web, you can install a basic system with some basic drivers and then apt-get install everything you want
[14:17] <micca> Boohbah, i actually had a share at home when my ex was at my place some yrs ago.. then i moved to a uni residence.. and i forgot to unshare it all ... LOL pretty fricking compromising stuff I gotta say :(
[14:17] <tv7497> ikonia: hello sir is there a way to upgrade to jaunty from ibex from the iso that i just downloaded ?
[14:17] <prince_jammys> Jarie: the minimal CD has the base system. you then can add whatever you like
[14:17] <ikonia> !upgrade > tv7497
[14:17] <Huufarted> Jarie: the purpose of linux is to give you a 100% open and free alternative that you can do with however you want.  It prevents you from being locked into specific software vendors and from spending tons of money on the software you need to run.
[14:17] <Jarie> Ok I have another concern
[14:17] <Jarie> I wil try the minimal CD however
[14:18] <dmsuperman> Huufarted: I don't observe any odd behavior, but it's hard to tell if it's locking up because X usage keeps spiking to 20%
[14:18] <Tcl> jpds:pong ?
[14:18] <micca> jarie: what is it u wish to do with your ditro> what are yo used to etc?
[14:18] <Jarie> with Linux you cant download a program from a web site and run it. Like if your friend makes a game and puts it on his site. Or if someone makes a scene Demo... or any other of thousands of little programs
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: another way is to install a regular system then remove what you do not need
[14:18] <Jarie> linux doesnt support downloading stuff and installing it
[14:18] <yoriel> hi everybody
[14:18] <utakbiya> hi everyone! Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:18] <prince_jammys> Jarie: yes, you can.
[14:18] <Huufarted> jarie, yes it does.
[14:18] <micca> well jarie.. you can
[14:18] <Jarie> No it doesnt
[14:18] <ikonia> Jarie: it does if it's packaged correctly
[14:18] <jpds> Tcl: Sorry, there was something bot-ish about you :)
[14:18] <Huufarted> Jarie: yes.  You can.
[14:18] <edthefox> evelyette: have you tried using a different usb port or s different cable?
[14:18] <yoriel> i had some question
[14:18] <micca> and even if its windows binaries .. you still often can run it with wine
[14:18] <Huufarted> Jarie: I do it all the time.
[14:18] <Jarie> you are lying
[14:19] <utakbiya> hi everyone! Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:19] <Jarie> none of you do it
[14:19] <eterna1> lol jarie you can you just have to set it up
[14:19] <yoriel> how i know wich is my network
[14:19] <evelyette> edthefox, yes...the same problem
[14:19] <Huufarted> Jarie: go look up what a .deb file is....
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: depends how they are coded etc, some will, some wont. You cant run linux apps at all in windows but linux has abstraction to allow you to run some of them
[14:19] <yoriel> in this syntaxis
[14:19] <prince_jammys> Jarie: it's going to run windows executables.
[14:19] <yoriel> 255.0.0.0/x
[14:19] <tv7497> ikonia: none of that was useful :(
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Jarie: look at www.winehq.com
[14:19] <prince_jammys> Jarie: i meant NOT going to ...
[14:19] <micca> ActionParsnip,  erm.. cygwin.. hummingbird?
[14:19] <ikonia> tv7497: that explains how to upgrade, what is not clear ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> micca: what is hummingbird?
[14:19] <Tcl> jpds : no problem , i love eggdrops :)
[14:20] <mshanks> Jarie; you can't use a .exe no... but that's been packaged to work on windows. (although, most of them work through Wine anyway) ubuntu uses .deb packages which you can download and "just run"
[14:20] <Huufarted> oh snap!
[14:20] <Huufarted> mshanks, they got booted
[14:20] <eterna1> i have had ubuntu for aprox 10 mins and i have noticed i can install run anything
[14:20] <utakbiya> hi everyone! Do you have crossover games full? Thanks in advance
[14:20] <edthefox> evelyette: hrm... beats me, have you checked it on a different computer to test if it still works?
[14:20] <micca> hummingbird connectivity provides an x windows environment in windows
[14:20] <Boohbah> !ot | utakbiya
[14:20] <evelyette> edthefox, yes it works fine on my laptop
[14:20] <mshanks> Huufarted; didn't notice! my bad.
[14:20] <tv7497> ikonia: well it didnt say how to upgrade from a cd ( well if i didint read it properly i cant find anything there :( )
[14:20] <micca> ActionParsnip, sorry forgot to add yoru nick
[14:20] <utakbiya> ok thanks
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Jare: some windows apps run great in linux, some documents can be accessed using a different app to a windows one
[14:20] <tv7497> didnt*
[14:20] <Huufarted> mshanks: I'll let it slide this time.  ;P
[14:20] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: are you still there?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> micca: i use XMing
[14:21] <mshanks> Huufarted, you're too kind :-)
[14:21] <ikonia> tv7497: you need to use the alternative CD - however I'd strongly advise against using the CD to upgrade as Jaunty is changing all the time and you need the current versions
[14:21] <Huufarted> Jimi_Neutral: if you start typing someone's name and then hit TAB, if they are in this room, it will autocomplete their name.  It's an easy way to see if someone is present
[14:21] <micca> ActionParsnip,  sure but i just was saying wine works on linux as those progams work on windows in principle (i.e. running linux binaries in an env. inside th eother system).. so as such.. one can run linux on windows
[14:21] <micca> linux programs*
[14:21] <edthefox> evelyette: i dunno man
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> micca: well they arent running ON windows, only the display is disaplyed on the windows system
[14:22] <micca> hmmmmm now.. mshanks.. u got an advice if to use original ircd server or hybrid7 used with oftnet?
[14:22] <micca> ya ok true
[14:22] <eterna1> ActionParsnip: yes using gentoo i was running wine and able to access my windows hd to run programs such as photoshop
[14:22] <micca> but that does nto go for cygwin eh
[14:22] <eterna1> ActionParsnip: yes using gentoo i was running wine and able to access my windows hd to run programs such as photoshop
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> eternally: exactly, some apps do work
[14:22] <micca> eternal.. that is not what ActionParsnip  was denying or anything
[14:23] <mshanks> micca, I honestly have no idea. As I said before, I'd strongly recommend reading a lot of documentation - from what little I've read, it's quite a complicated process. I wouldn't bother picking your software until you know what exactly you need.
[14:23] <eterna1> i know micca
[14:23] <frostburn> how come there's no man for umask o.O
[14:23] <eterna1> he was saying that you can i just backed it up
[14:23] <micca> mshanks.. ok sorry for bothering you so much on this issue lol :) you have been helpful though xx
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Jare: any other questions?
[14:23] <incorrect> I want to configure X manually, is there a tool i can use?
[14:24] <eterna1> lol incorrect
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn: type this:  umask --help
[14:24] <eterna1> X would be as in X server?
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn: lol well that command I gave you will error out, but it gives you basic syntax
[14:24] <frostburn> Huufarted, not the same as a man though
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: gedit, nano, vi
[14:24] <incorrect> eterna1, :D well I want to stop it auto detecting
[14:24] <Huufarted> frostburn quite right
[14:25] <abhra> when i tried to connect my nokia using gammu it asks for gnapplet.is there any for s60 v3?i could not find one
[14:25] <Huufarted> frostburn: this might help you:  http://ibm5.ma.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?umask+2
[14:25] <prince_jammys> frostburn: umask is a shell builtin. 'help umask', or man bash and search for it.
[14:25] <mshanks> micca, not a problem - that's why I'm here. I can't really offer more help because a) I don't know for sure and b) I really think you need to do more reading before going any further :)
[14:25] <incorrect> there used to be a tool to generate X11 config
[14:25] <micca> true
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: it got dropped after gutsy unfortunately
[14:26] <micca> ah man i dont even rememebr the shortcut for highlighting my own name
[14:26] <frostburn> prince_jammys, yeah, just wondering why the man isn't included.  help umask isn't the same documentation
[14:26] <incorrect> ActionParsnip, oh how useless
[14:26] <frostburn> Huufarted, yeah i used that too =]
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> micca: type your own name
[14:26] <micca> micca goes off and downloads ircd and just runs it .. and burns!!!
[14:26] <prince_jammys> frostburn: bash builtins don't have man pages. they have 'help'
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: tell me about it :(
[14:26] <micca> ye but wasnt there like a if you want another colourl. like micca waves
[14:26] <mshanks> good luck :p
[14:26] <Huufarted> frostburn: when I need a command, a lot of the time I"ll just google it.  'man umask' returns quite a bit.
[14:26] <micca> lol mshanks :p
[14:26] <mshanks> do /me perhaps
[14:26] <prince_jammys> frostburn: if you want umask(2) and can't access it, install manpages-dev
[14:27] <micca> at least if i survive it , i can give you soem useful feedback ;)
[14:27]  * micca burns
[14:27] <micca> YAY
[14:27] <mshanks> Definately :) Always interested in new things.
[14:27] <micca> thank yo.. that was it i was tyyping /micca
[14:27] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[14:27] <Huufarted> micca, if you survive it then you can be the go-to person if someone in the future has the same issue.  :)
[14:27] <Linuxrevolution> I have a question about net and ubuntu
[14:27] <Huufarted> micca: that's how a lot of people in here got to answering questions instead of asking so many
[14:27]  * micca looks at linuxrevolution and guesses the revolution is .. so can I install linux on a windows monitor?
[14:27] <Huufarted> !ask Linuxrevolution
[14:27] <Huufarted> !ask | Linuxrevolution
[14:28] <micca> sure thing Huufarted
[14:28] <prince_jammys> frostburn: manpages-dev has man pages for system calls. try installing that.
[14:28] <Linuxrevolution> ok
[14:28] <micca> lol.. .me knew it
[14:28]  * micca knew it
[14:28] <Linuxrevolution> when I wanna download anything
[14:28] <frostburn> prince_jammys, ah much better, thanks =]
[14:28] <prince_jammys> frostburn: welcome
[14:28] <Mathias90> Hello. I have a problem  with my Ubuntu. I've just installed Clonezilla server edition on an Ubuntu desktop. I've setted up DHCP, DNS, etc.. I have an external hdd connected to the server, to get the images from, called /media/backup. Though, Clonezilla won't allow me to use /media/backup, so I need to call it something else. I've tried to put the images in root, just to test if it was ok, and that's no problem. How can I change the device name?
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> for example a software net just stop downloading and start again!!
[14:29] <Huufarted> Mathias90: try creating a symlink:  ln -s /media/backup /backup
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> stop start stop start!!! from anywhere even Synaptic
[14:29] <Huufarted> Mathias90: then tell Clonezilla to use /backup
[14:29] <Magishen> i am da maker of conflicker
[14:29] <Mathias90> Huufarted - > a sysmlink?
[14:29] <Magishen> u r all gone
[14:29] <Linuxrevolution> is this Ubuntu problem???
[14:29] <Magishen> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[14:29] <FloodBot2> Magishen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:30] <Mathias90> symlink*
[14:30] <Magishen> FLOODBOT U WNAT ME TO OWN U NOOB
[14:30] <bazhang> Magishen, stop that
[14:30] <Magishen> NO U STOP DAT
[14:30] <eterna1> !ban Magishen
[14:30] <Huufarted> Mathias90: it tells the operating system that /backup is really accessing /media/backup, just with a different name
[14:30]  * MenZa huggles bazhang 
[14:30] <eterna1> lol
[14:30] <Huufarted> !ban | Magishen
[14:30] <Linuxrevolution> any idea?
[14:31] <eterna1> thanx Huufarted
[14:31]  * sebsebseb isn't sure if  Magishen deserves his help in PM, but nevermind
[14:31]  * prince_jammys is sure of the answer to that one
[14:31] <Mathias90> Ahh.. Exactly what I'm looking for. Can I PM you?
[14:31] <tv7497> ikonia: sir if you don't mind take a look at this http://122.167.111.75  screenshot.png i was able to mount it but no pop up window came up asking to upgrade ( alternate cd method )
[14:31] <Huufarted> Mathias90: if you were talking to me, then I don't mind if you pm me
[14:32] <Lorkas> hello
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: are you using the alternative image ?
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: there are also instructions what to do if the popup box doesnt come up
[14:32] <micca> hmm Linuxrevolution , doesnt sound too great.. but i have no idea hwo to help on that , sorry..
[14:32] <ikonia> tv7497: I agaon strongly recommend you to NOT use the cd method to upgrade to the beata release due to constant chances being made
[14:32] <Lorkas> i have sort of a problem while trying to install ubuntu server 8.10 on a Fujitsu siemens f250 server
[14:33] <Linuxrevolution> micca: when I use Kget I dont have this problem!!
[14:33] <ikonia> tv7497: that does not lok like the alternative CD image
[14:33] <ikonia> tv7497: that looks like the desktop cd rom
[14:33] <Lorkas> i downloaded the cd from the ubuntu website and tried it, it works, i changed the boot sequence so it goes from the cd
[14:33] <Linuxrevolution> micca: I downloaded ubuntu 9.4 without any stop
[14:33] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how do I know what I have before installing VirtualBox for my Ubuntu 8.10("intrepid Ibex") I mean the amd / intel cpu?
[14:34] <sebsebseb> prince_jammys: he would probably be bad for our community,  and it seems he isn't up for the slight learning curve anyway
[14:34] <Lorkas> but it's not booting from the cd
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Nasra: are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[14:34] <tv7497> ikonia: oh ! i must have downloaded the wrong version :( is there any other way to upgrade to jaunty sir ?
[14:34] <zombor> im trying to install some software, and it's asking for "glib-gettext >= 2.2.0" what package is that in apt? I cant seem to find it
[14:34] <Nasra> 64bit
[14:34] <Lorkas> 32 here if you're asking
[14:34] <Lorkas> oh
[14:34] <Lorkas> nvm
[14:34] <Lorkas> soz ^^
[14:34] <ikonia> tv7497 the methods are explained inthe links ubottu sent you
[14:34] <prince_jammys> sebsebseb: regardless of community, people who insult you while seeking help need to get lost.
[14:34] <Nasra> sebsebseb: that what is says in the my box....
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok get the 64bit version then
[14:34] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: Hey bud are you there?
[14:35] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> not really, be back in 15 minutes
[14:35] <Nasra> sebsebseb:   http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[14:35] <sebsebseb> prince_jammys: yeah he insulsted Ubuntu, when I explained that the easiest way to  sort out his drive issue, was to boot up Windows and let it shut down properly.  anyway we are going off topic
[14:35] <tv7497> ikonia: err i closed it sir would you mind sending it again ?
[14:35] <micca> haha.. here I go mshanks : I dl ircd, installed it and it says startign daemon.. but then when i go to services in admini. it doesnt show... so im hopoing i don thave a rogue ircd running as I will now read up on the ircd.conf stuff :)
[14:35] <marie_blubb> i#m installing samba and use swat to configure. obviously swat doesnt get the datat from the smb.conf as bottoms like global are missing. what diod I do wrong
[14:35] <Nasra> sebastien: has to be the first one on top
[14:35] <ikonia> !upgrade > tv7497
[14:36] <hett> hi there! can you guys help me with one keyring issue?
[14:36] <Lorkas> Ok, i have an issue trying to install Ubuntu server 8.10 if someone can pm me to helo, i would be grateful, thanks
[14:36] <tv7497> ikonia: thanks sir :)
[14:36] <Huufarted> Anybody able to help me with some gigabit NICs that refuse to run at gigabit speeds and only run at 100 mbit?  I have a forum post here so you can see what's happening.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6999623
[14:36] <Nasra> sebsebseb: and then it talks about the dkms package as well....
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Nasra: it should be pretty obvious as to which to download :)
[14:36] <hett> I need to remove it
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok i'll have a look
[14:36] <digifor> my wee acer aspire one is giving out 99 99 99 99 99 99 when I boot...
[14:36] <incorrect> has anyone got Xorg working with a DRAC card?
[14:36] <Nasra> thanks
[14:36] <digifor> Is there a way to fix this?
[14:36] <edthefox> Lorkas: what's your issue?
[14:36] <Huufarted> digifor: it's giving that as the MAC address?
[14:37] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yep 8.10 for amd64 then
[14:37] <digifor> Huufarted, no when it boots.
[14:37] <Nasra> ok
[14:37] <Enpires> Hello! i've a trouble... i think that my bootloader disappeared... could anyone help me?
[14:37] <sebsebseb> Nasra: Intrepid Ibex
[14:37] <Nasra> yes
[14:37] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:37] <hett> anyone? can you help me with removing this goddammmed keyring?
[14:37] <digifor> no grub jus 99 99 99 99 etc
[14:37] <Huufarted> digifor: it's giving 99 99 99 99 99 99 out for what?
[14:37] <Shadow121> LOL
[14:38] <tv7497> ikonia: thanks a lot upgrading has started !!
[14:38] <Huufarted> digifor: it just displays that on the screen and nothing else?
[14:38] <Nasra> do I sudo apt-get install VirtualBox -2.1.4 this way?
[14:38] <digifor> Thats what I am asking as well
[14:38] <Lorkas> Ok, i have an issue trying to install Ubuntu server 8.10 if someone can pm me to helo, i would be grateful, thanks
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Nasra:  no
[14:38] <Ienorand> Can I make gdm autologin after reastarting x, (e.g. alt+prntscrn+k)
[14:38] <_spm_Draget> Where do I set systemwide environmentvirables when i am on the console and do not have xorg running?
[14:38] <digifor> It is nearly brand new.
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Nasra: download the deb and just click on it or.  be in the folder in terminal and  sudo dpkg -i   name.deb
[14:38] <Boohbah> Ienorand: yes just set the persistent autologin in the login manager config
[14:39] <kitche> digifor: reinstall grub
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, i removed network manager on my box under instruction from this clonezilla tutorial and now i cant connect to the internet through sdaid box....i assume that i have to use /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure of the settings
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> i want it to use dhcp
[14:39] <kitche> digifor: but I never heard of grub doing 99 99 99 99 I know lilo does that
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> and the other card in the box is just for local distribution using clonezilla
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> so eth0 needs to be dhcp and eth1 needs to be a private static address
[14:39] <Jimi_Neutral> any ideas?
[14:40] <Enpires> sebsebseb, if the message about the grup was for me i think is not what i need... i'll try to explain better: after i see the ASUS logo, when i have to choose what OS i want to start, i can only see a flashing line and i can do nothing..
[14:40] <digifor> It must be a weird acer aspire one thing. I was starting to wonder if I had borked my hd
[14:40] <Dan> hello
[14:40] <mickOw> hi
[14:40] <Devcoder> Hello people, Today when i woke up i saw that my computer had an BSOD. Restarted, still got BSOD's. Tried to reinstall vista, couldnt even get into the installation. So i tried XP, got still of "cannot read the bla bla file want to skip?". I skipped and got it installed, and the computer randomly shuted down. And got BSOD. So i tried ubuntu, but i get "Crc error , System halted".
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok odd.
[14:41] <sebsebseb> Dan: hi
[14:41] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you in Ubuntu now or not?
[14:41] <NoobGuest> What is a backport update?
[14:41] <_spm_Draget> Where do I set systemwide environmentvirables when i am on the console and do not have xorg running?
[14:41] <Enpires> i'm using another computer
[14:41] <Devcoder> I tried to first disconnect 1 hdd and use the other one, and then reverse, but still got the still problem. What is the chance of both HDDs beeing messed up? any ideás?
[14:41] <Dan> hi
[14:41] <Enpires> i cant start both vista and ubuntu
[14:41] <Kesman_> Devcoder: probably broken hdd
[14:41] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: silghtly new versions of programs, before they become a proper one
[14:41] <sebsebseb> !backport
[14:41] <timmytheraw> Is there a way to set the port range for connections (Not listening ports) in btdownloadcurses?  I need the ports to be predictable so that i can traffic shape w/ tcng
[14:41] <Lorkas> edthefox: well, i downloaded the ubuntu server 8.10 live cd, and the system its just not booting from the cd, although i ask him to do it
[14:41] <NoobGuest> sebsebseb: thanks, is there somewhere i could have found that? thanks!
[14:41] <Kesman_> Devcoder: maybe the sata or IDE driver of your mainboard is screwed then?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: what the bot said, my descripton is a little off
[14:42] <sebsebseb> NoobGuest: and Ubuntu only does security updates
[14:42] <Droopsta915> How can I view all the images in my evolution messages.
[14:42] <Devcoder> Kesman_ could that happen all suddenly over night without restarting the comp?
[14:42] <NoobGuest> sebsebseb: yeah you caught me in midstream of typing, the thanks! answered that :P
[14:42] <Enpires> sebsebseb, have you got any idea about a solution?? (except formatting :P)
[14:42] <edthefox> Lorkas: does it hang up trying to boot or does it just boot into windows?
[14:42] <Kesman_> Devcoder: dunno, do you have the hdd's in sata or in ide?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: are you on WIndows or Ubuntu?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: have you got a Live CD?
[14:42] <sebsebseb> Enpires: let's find out if Grub is even on there properly or not first
[14:43] <Enpires> sebsebseb,now in ubuntu, but not in the broken pc
[14:43] <Devcoder> Kesman_ its in Sata, but its used as IDE (if you understand what i mean)
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: well if the folder for it is
[14:43] <Enpires> yes i have
[14:43] <hbekel> _spm_Draget: export VAR=val
[14:43] <Kesman_> Devcoder: yeah I do. Did you already try another sata port?
[14:43] <Lorkas> edthefox: It just boots windows, in the bios, i even changed it, so it did not boot from hdd nor floppy, only from cd, and says no OS found
[14:43] <Devcoder> Kesman_ i cannot even launch ubuntu as live cd
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: or just re install Grub onto the MBR on the broken PC
[14:43] <Enpires> have you got any guide that could help me to reinstall it?
[14:43] <farm> could anyone tell me the name of the app for managing print jobs (gui)?
[14:43] <Kesman_> Devcoder: what was the liveCD's problem?
[14:43] <edthefox> Lorkas: what kind of computer is it?
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah what the bot gave
[14:43] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:44] <Devcoder> Kesman_ when i choose "Start as livecd" I got the crc error
[14:44] <farm> I want to link to it from the toolbar, but i'm having issues defining it in google etc
[14:44] <Lorkas> edthefox: its a Fujitsu Siemens F250 Server, dual Intel Xeon 2'4ghx
[14:44] <edthefox> Lorkas: can you press a f-key to make it open up a boot menu
[14:44] <Devcoder> same when i choose "install"
[14:44] <sebsebseb> Enpires: also I know of a little trick to get another Grub, but it's not really the best way
[14:44] <farm> (maybe i need to sleep a little.. :/
[14:44] <Devcoder> Kesman_ even the "Check the cd for errors" gives me crc error, the only thing that dosnt is the memtest
[14:44] <Dan> Ciao
[14:45] <Lorkas> edthefox: yes, f12 and it shows a black window, then goes into windows
[14:45] <Nasra> sebsebseb: sorry I was in the middle of phoncall will bet back to you shortly....
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> i have 2 cards, one for clonezilla distro and one for WAN access. The WAN access needs to be DHCP and the clonezilla dstro needs to be private static please help me to config this, i am getting desperate and my boss is chewing my ass
[14:45] <Kesman> Devcoder: hmm thats weird.. Do you have another pc or how are you on irc atm?
[14:45] <Lorkas> edthefox: (after selecting boot from cd)
[14:45] <prince_jammys> farm: there are many. i think one already comes with gnome. check out also: http://localhost:631/ in a web browser
[14:45] <edthefox> Lorkas: will it boot to cd on another computer?
[14:45] <Devcoder> Kesman another comp, kesman gimme a sec m8 im brb :) ill higlight you in a sec
[14:45] <Kesman> Devcoder: ok
[14:45] <clearscreen> Guess I'm the one asking the question this time :) I was trying to install vista. Booted into ubuntu live cd and resized my ext3 partition. Problem is that vista install does see the reserved space and apparently is able to create a 'new' partition in that space, but it can't find 'a partition suitable for installation' for some reason. I'm now trying to create an ntfs partition from ubuntu, but gparted cant make ntfs partition.. MY QUESTI
[14:46] <eterna1> how do you people keep up in here
[14:46] <Lorkas> edthefox: it boots on this one yep
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: VIsta wastes your psyical hard disk
[14:46] <clearscreen> sebsebseb: oh?
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: can't resize VIsta to a good size  without risking dataloss
[14:46] <clearscreen> Meh, guess I'll just install XP then
[14:46] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: yeah GParted won't do vista's partition properly,  and the vista resizing itself stuff is not that good either
[14:46] <farm> prince_jammys, the one that seems to be standarde in ubuntu - just the print job bit - not a printer manager... although localhost:631 could be a good plan :) ta!
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: if you got enough RAM, you can  virtual machine Vista  or  XP
[14:47] <clearscreen> well gparted doesnt seem to be able to make ntfs partitions here.. so meh
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: ic, well. i'm at a loss
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: fine for everything pretty much, but not 3D games
[14:47] <Whitor> clearscreen, xp's better anyway :]
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: I would just say to verify your bios settings
[14:47] <clearscreen> sebsebseb: the problem is that I need to develop C# XNA apps for my job, which is very buggy (very early 3d acceleration support) in VM's
[14:47] <Lorkas> edthefox: i updated the BIOS and rechecked the BIOS Settings,
[14:47] <Shadow121> ah dammit
[14:47] <edthefox> Lorkas: do you have a windows cd  to see if it will boot to that?
[14:47] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: ok
[14:48] <Whitor> than vista ...
[14:48] <Enpires> sebsebseb about the trick to get another grup, i'm going to try frist the guide that the boot gave me, if i cant fix the problem i'll try that trick :) thanks alot for your help
[14:48] <Lorkas> edthefox: nope
[14:48] <clearscreen> XP it is then... not like im paying for this anyway
[14:48] <clearscreen> lol
[14:48] <sebsebseb> clearscreen: well you can put Vista, on  and save to the partition from Ubuntu anyway
[14:48] <clearscreen> alright, cya :D
[14:48] <sebsebseb> Enpires: well I didn't tell you the trick, but yeah
[14:48] <Lorkas> edthefox: i also downloaded Gentoo to see if it worked and it is not loading it either
[14:49] <edthefox> Lorkas: sounds like it's an issue with your fujitsu box
[14:49] <Lorkas> edthefox: yeh but i can not find the issue
[14:50] <Lorkas> edthefox: i'm a nublet with servers though
[14:50] <edthefox> Lorkas: if I where you, I would google it
[14:50] <eterna1>  what does ubuntu deal with ? ?rpm ?sh ???
[14:50] <Enpires> sebsebseb, little problem :P i'm into the grub (sudo grub) and i tipe "find /grub/stage1" but it say me "error 15, file not found" (also if i type find /boot/grub/stage1)
[14:50] <Jimi_Neutral> i have 2 cards, one for clonezilla distro and one for WAN access. The WAN access needs to be DHCP and the clonezilla dstro needs to be private static please help me to config this
[14:51] <cip_> hi all  i have a problem?
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: i think it could be a server-only think, because on startup, before loading the BIOS it says
[14:51] <Kesman> cip_: you really do?
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: Adapter scan.....
[14:51] <etfb> Hey, you Ubuntu users!  Do you have any idea what a luxury it is to be in the middle of installing some program and be able to just "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and have an entire compiler toolchain magically appear on your frakking hard drive?  It's incredible...
[14:51] <etfb> I love Ubuntu sometimes...
[14:51] <Lorkas> edthefox: could be an issue of the SCSI adapter?
[14:51] <cip_> i wanted a linux driver for kyocera km 1635 printed? have you a idea
[14:51] <cip_> ?
[14:51] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ok, just in time, you have dhcp server installed and serving on your eth2 yet but not on eth0 ?
[14:52] <Cyc> Using ubuntu 8.10: is all the configuration for panels in home/.gconf/apps/panel ?  So if i back up that folder then change all my panels. I can restore to the backup?
[14:52] <Enpires> sebsebseb, are you still there? :)
[14:52] <opticalmouse> #ubuntu-my
[14:52] <Lorkas> edthefox: I'm thinking on removing it, since i dont have anything plugged to it
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah
[14:53] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok  boot the computer from the Live CD
[14:53] <edthefox> Lorkas: that may be it but I dunno, depends on the server i guess
[14:53] <Enpires> done
[14:53] <Lorkas> edthefox: but i just dont have idea of what it does, so i might just fuck the things up ^^
[14:53] <Enpires> i was reading this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Enpires: right yeah
[14:54] <Enpires> but i cant do the "find /grub/stage1" part
[14:54] <Pooria> I just got a VPS from 1and1 with ubuntu 8 installed minimal / when I try use aptitude I'll get this error " -bash: aptitude: command not found
[14:54] <Pooria> "
[14:54] <Enpires> cause it says "error 15: file not found"
[14:54] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah we are going to find out what Grub stuff is on your Ubuntu install
[14:54] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yes that was the case but now since removing the nm i can do whatever.....so it makes sense to have eth0 using dhcp, connecting to the netowrk and going to the internet and eth1 as the private one
[14:55] <Enpires> ok so what i have to do? (however thanks 4 your patience)
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires:  if you open up computer
[14:55] <Enpires> ok
[14:55] <edthefox> Lorkas: I would ask questions here -> http://forum.ts.fujitsu.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=77
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you see the partition there?
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: eth1 being static
[14:55] <Enpires> sure
[14:55] <Enpires> but only from the live CD
[14:55] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> okay, they go ahead, have your eth0 towards the wan and eth1 towards the lan to serve clonezilla
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah  the Live CD can access the partition that is on the hard disk
[14:55] <master> urbanterror
[14:55] <Enpires> yes it can
[14:55] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but don't get mixed up with the live cd file system
[14:56] <master> #urbanterror
[14:56] <Enpires> yeah is what i thought
[14:56] <sebsebseb> Enpires: open  the one on your partition and then go to boot
[14:56] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yeah thats what i want, would you happen to know what i would have to type into /etc/network/interfaces to actually achieve this lol
[14:56] <Enpires> so i found the right boot folder path, and i type that one
[14:56] <Pooria> when I use sudo apt-get install mysql I'll recieve message that saying thereis not package :(( what should I do?
[14:56] <Enpires> but it still tells me the same thing
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Enpires: oh your using terminal?  I am saying to use GUI :d
[14:57] <Nasra> sebastien: are you there....it says wrong acquicteture ---->error
[14:57] <Enpires> oh sorry :D ok i'm in the folder now
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok  your on 32bit I guess then
[14:57] <Lorkas> edthefox: seems like a server only thing
[14:57] <Nasra> sebsebseb: then you correct
[14:57] <Pooria> no body wants to answer me?
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: or you don't have hardware virtualization set up or whatever
[14:57] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you have it okay i believe as earlier,  iface eth0 inet dhcp;  iface eth1 inet static  something like this
[14:57] <sebsebseb> Nasra: get the other one then
[14:57] <Nasra> ok
[14:57] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> man interfaces for a bit more detail
[14:57] <ziroday`> Pooria: what do you want to install, the server or the client?
[14:58] <Nasra> sebsebseb: be right back
[14:58] <Devcoder> Kesman and yes im using an other comp for irc
[14:58] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: man interfaces?
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires: actsully you could list the stuff in terminal
[14:58] <eterna1> hmm
[14:58] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> yes to get the manual
[14:58] <Lorkas> edthefox: now it aint loading even windows because it says the system can not read from the boot cd
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires:   ok  get into there on the terminal.   /media/partition/boot/grub
[14:58] <Enpires> sebsebseb, do i have to list all files? using "ls"?
[14:58] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: tpye man interfaces into a terminal?
[14:58] <Pooria> I have a vPS server installed in minimal, I don't have any aptitude and I can not install anything from apt-get .... thereis not package avaible .... what should I do ziroday ?
[14:58] <Lorkas> edthefox: (i unplugged the scsi card
[14:58] <sebsebseb> Enpires: sure
[14:58] <Kesman> Devcoder: windows on it? Get yourself a program called "unetbootin" and use it to create a bootable usb-stick with ubuntu 8.10 on it and boot again, so you wont waste cd's anymore
[14:59] <Enpires> ok do you want the list of all files?
[14:59] <sebsebseb> Enpires: just  want to check that the Grub files are there or not, probably are, and then  maybe it's just your menu list that has gone bad
[14:59] <ziroday`> Pooria: err what? What do you mean you don't have apt-get or aptitude?
[14:59] <Kesman> Devcoder: then try again, it should be able to boot to livecd without any hdd's installed
[14:59] <eterna1> i love the updating and package manager on this distro
[14:59] <Devcoder> kesman how much space is needed?
[14:59] <sebsebseb> Enpires: sure everything in /boot and /boot/grub
[14:59] <Kesman> Devcoder: ~700mb, how much does ubuntu image take?
[14:59] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i did that and its not working
[14:59] <Devcoder> Kesman biggest usb drive are 256mb.....
[14:59] <Kesman> oh crap
[15:00] <Enpires> okok the files that i have into the grub folder are [default / device.map / menu.list]
[15:00] <Kesman> they cost like 10eur in the local supermarket dude
[15:00] <Kesman> with at least 2gb
[15:00] <Enpires> sebsebseb, into boot (wait i have to type all names by myself)
[15:00] <Pooria> ziroday , for example see this statement and error :
[15:00] <Pooria> root@s15333026:~/mysql-5.1.33# sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:00] <Pooria> Reading package lists... Done
[15:00] <Pooria> Building dependency tree... Done
[15:00] <Pooria> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[15:00] <FloodBot2> Pooria: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <Pooria> root@s15333026:~/mysql-5.1.33#
[15:00] <Kesman> lol :D
[15:00] <sebsebseb> Enpires: not if you ls and then pastebin
[15:01] <LjL> Pooria: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:01] <Enpires> yeah but how can i do that if i'm chatting using another computer? :D
[15:01] <Devcoder> Kesman hehe yeah just wanted to tell you that i don't have one now hahaa
[15:01] <Pooria> zeroday see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/142807/
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Enpires: to be honest it's probably just a bad grub menu.list file
[15:01] <ziroday`> Pooria: don't flood, secondly why/how are you logged in as root, finally pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:01] <Devcoder> Kesman ill try an other sata port first i think. and maybe try the hdds in an other computer
[15:01] <Kesman> Devcoder: good idea
[15:01] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok... have you got any guide to fix that menu.list?
[15:01] <sebsebseb> Enpires: the LIve CD is internet connected as well or not?
[15:01] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> can you post the /etc/network/interfaces file now? and results of  ifconfig
[15:02] <Enpires> i have to install my wireless drivers to go online
[15:02] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok, will take me a bit cause i will have to tpye em out
[15:02] <Mozillero> hola
[15:02] <Enpires> do i need to?
[15:02] <Mozillero> hola
[15:02] <mshanks> Enpires, cables work well too you know :p
[15:02] <Devcoder> Kesman thanks for the tips :) im gonna try the cd in an other compter to to check that the cd isint fued
[15:02] <sebsebseb> Enpires: would be useful
[15:02] <LjL> !es | Mozillero
[15:02] <sebsebseb> Enpires: can you do it without loads of hassle?
[15:02] <Enpires> okok
[15:02] <Pooria> zeroday, hereis my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/142808/ | I don't know how I have logged in as root , this VPS is from 1and1 and 1and1 made this happen!
[15:02] <Niphyr> ping
[15:02] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> no sweat, i have things to do too, so be patient, and awaken me once you;re ready
[15:03] <Enpires> so wait 1 minute that i connet my computer :D
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Enpires: you said it just flash on Grub?
[15:03] <LjL> Pooria: ugh. i don't even think that's an official ubuntu mirror
[15:03] <lee_> hello very guy
[15:03] <sebsebseb> Enpires: it's an odd issue.   bad menu.list missing files in boot  /boot/grub  and  Grub didn't install properly to the MBR.  that's what comes to mind
[15:03] <Pooria> LjL , what should I do now then? please help me I need this VPS
[15:04] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok... so i can do anything?
[15:04] <Enpires> *can i do anything?
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Enpires: re installing Grub, would probably help
[15:04] <ziroday`> Pooria: who setup this VPS, its done extremely badly. You need to change your repo's to some that actually exist
[15:04] <LjL> Pooria: either complain to your VPS server for telling you they gave you Ubuntu, when they didn't...
[15:04] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but it may be as simple as changing something in menu list to get it working
[15:04] <LjL> Pooria: or, i guess, change your sources.list to point to REAL ubuntu mirrors
[15:04] <mshanks> Pooria; ask 1and1 to re-create the vps with Ubuntu on it
[15:04] <Pooria> LjL would u give me source.llist ?
[15:05] <sebsebseb> Enpires: yeah if you can get online with that,  I can see the menu.list and at least tell you if that's ok or not
[15:05] <Pooria> mashanks , actualy I did and got this shit
[15:05] <LjL> Pooria: yes, moment
[15:05] <LjL> language please
[15:05] <Pooria> LjL thanks man
[15:05] <mshanks> Pooria, you might be able to do that yourself - most vps allow you to re-create an original image (and they might have a selection of distro images you can pick from)
[15:05] <Pooria> sorry *
[15:05] <Enpires> sebsebseb, okok now i try to pastebin the menu list
[15:05] <LjL> Pooria: is the server located in canada?
[15:05] <Pooria> no
[15:05] <Pooria> LjL is in US
[15:05] <LjL> ok, i'll use the US mirrors then
[15:06] <Pooria> LjL thanks man
[15:06] <Enpires> !pastebin
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> can someone give me the pastebin link please
[15:06] <sebsebseb> LjL: I  know your also knowledagable :)  maybe you can help  Enpries get Grub working,  he only gets a flash.   He is going to pastebin the menu.list
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> lol tu
[15:06] <LjL> Pooria: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/142810/
[15:06] <Pooria> LjL I should just paste this ?
[15:07] <Enpires> sebsebseb,  the menu.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:07] <LjL> sebsebseb: flash like what? a USB key?
[15:07] <LjL> Pooria: you should paste it instead of your current sources.list
[15:07] <LjL> Pooria: then issue "sudo apt-get update"
[15:07] <sebsebseb> Enpires: tell your issue to  Ljl as well, he is pretty knowledgable about this kind of stuff,  more so than me in fact I expect
[15:08] <Enpires> ok thanks
[15:08] <Shadow121> where the hell is the talk about anything i want room????
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ,but yes I will look at list
[15:08] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: here you go mate wake up! ;) http://paste.ubuntu.com/142814/
[15:08] <mshanks> #talkaboutanything ?
[15:08] <LjL> Shadow121: try #defocus
[15:08] <Enpires> LjL can you help me with my problems with GRUB
[15:08] <sebsebseb> Shadow121: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <n8tuser> Enpires -> where did you get this option from? loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk  ?
[15:08] <Enpires> sebsebseb, ok thanks you for your help :)
[15:08] <efefppo> How can I tell if I have the prop ati drivers installed?
[15:08] <Shadow121> THATS IT!!  Thanks
[15:09] <LjL> Enpires: if you explain them to me, perhaps
[15:09] <ziroday`> efefppo: whats the proper ati driver?
[15:09] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> be back in 10 min again..
[15:09] <efefppo> ziroday`: I man propriatary (or something, the one from ati)
[15:09] <Pooria> LjL , I did sudo apt-get update but got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/142816/
[15:09] <LjL> Enpires: although i'm not so familiar with GRUB to be honest, i only use a very simple configuration for it
[15:09] <Enpires> LjL the problem is that i cant choos any OS at startup :D
[15:09] <ziroday`> efefppo: pastebin your /var/xorg.0.log
[15:10] <LjL> Pooria: you haven't changed your sources.list to the one i gave you
[15:10] <Pooria> I did bro
[15:10] <LjL> Enpires: elaborate?
[15:10] <Pooria> LjL I did
[15:10] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok
[15:10] <Pooria> LjL lemme reboot vps
[15:10] <LjL> Pooria: i don't think so. "nano /etc/apt/sources.list", see what it says
[15:10] <LjL> DON'T reboot anything
[15:11] <Nasra> sebsebseb: is dowloaded and configured VirtualBox 2.1...now how does it work ? ....is it under Application, internet?
[15:11] <Nasra> is configure and everything
[15:11] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok your menu.list seems bad
[15:11] <Enpires> LjL, ok. when i start my computer i see my ASUS logo, after (when i ususally shoose what OS i want to start) i can only see a flashing line
[15:11] <Enpires> and i cant do anything
[15:11] <LjL> Enpires: so basically GRUB isn't even starting?
[15:11] <sebsebseb> LjL: this his menu.list and there seems to be quite a few issues with it   http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:11] <Enpires> yeah, i think that
[15:11] <LjL> Enpires: do you get a prompt?
[15:12] <dcamp25> Any Java guru's here ?
[15:12] <Enpires> nono i cant type anything
[15:12] <mshanks> dcamp25, try #java ?
[15:12] <LjL> Enpires: can you boot from a live cd or something?
[15:12] <dcamp25> thanks
[15:12] <efefppo> ziroday`: http://pastebin.com/m5646d513
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> dcamp25: what's the question?
[15:12] <Enpires> yeah i did it
[15:12] <sebsebseb> LjL: he is on the live cd
[15:12] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:12] <Enpires> i'm using (in the broken pc) a live CD
[15:12] <G8_Zer0> Hey
[15:12] <LjL> ok
[15:12] <Enpires> i also copy the menu.list file on pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/142811/
[15:13] <sebsebseb> Enpires: I think a bad menu.list is your problem, after looking at that
[15:13] <Pooria> LjL can u give me againe the link of the sources.list ?
[15:13] <jonathan__> can someone tell me how to configure ffmpeg to support xvid? i allready downloaded the svn but i need the correct "./configure ..." command... i can't find it anywhere... Thanks in advance! :)
[15:13] <unr3a1> hey all, i am trying to burn an ISO with k3b, but when I load the app, I get an error saying, "No CD/DVD writer found."  What can I do?
[15:13] <LjL> Enpires: where is your root partition currently mounted?
[15:13] <LjL> Enpires: and what is it called?
[15:13] <LjL> Pooria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142810/
[15:13] <ziroday`> efefppo: you're using the open source radeon driver, not the closed source fglrx driver
[15:13] <eterna1> how sweet is that i click upgrade and it set my distro as newest one out
[15:13] <Enpires> ehm LjL, sorry if i'm so bad, but i dont know how to know that :D
[15:14] <LjL> Enpires: well, you pasted your menu.lst so your root partition must be mounted *somewhere*. how did you open menu.lst?
[15:14] <efefppo> ziroday`: thanks! wow the performance is great
[15:14] <ziroday`> jonathan__: take a look in the readme, it usually explains the configure switches there
[15:14] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> ok, you have to figure out which nic is eth0, you can do simple test, ping your dhcp server
[15:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: he did on the live cd
[15:14] <sebsebseb> LjL: after I got him to
[15:14] <LjL> sebsebseb: ok, but how?
[15:14] <G8_Zer0> Having trouble installing ubuntu on a new re-assembled pc. Basic setup with 1xIDE harddisk and 1xIDE DVD-RW. I boot up on Ubuntu disc fine, but when I've selected language and pressed install (or F4 for alternate) it goes to Console mode: Loading, please wait.... BusyBox v1.10.2.... (initramfs)... Tried several discs, low burn speed, etc. so disc should be fine. What to do ??
[15:14] <Enpires> ahh ok, i just gone into DATA/ubuntu/disks/boot/grub
[15:14] <Pooria> LjL thankssssssssssss bro updating
[15:14] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: how do i do that on my ubuntu box
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> Running Ubuntu v8.10
[15:15] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: try with acpi=off
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> Where can I select that?
[15:15] <LjL> Enpires: wouldn't that be /media/DATA/ubuntu/dists/boot/grub?
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> Where can I select that?
[15:15] <Enpires> ehm... right :D
[15:15] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: its a an option when booting up the livecd
[15:15] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> work with one interface at a time, sudo ifdown eth0;  move the ethernet cable and see if you get an ip address and ping the router
[15:15] <LjL> Enpires: look, type "mount" and pastebin the output
[15:15] <Pooria> LjL my server doesn't have aptitude , just has apt-get , how can I install aptitude ?
[15:15] <mshanks> G8_Zer0, edit the boot command and add acpi=off to it
[15:15] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> PM, ok ?
[15:15] <LjL> Pooria: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:16] <disappearedng> hey how do I use grep so that it shows where the string came from ?
[15:16] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: no, please keep it in here
[15:16] <disappearedng> *matching string came from btw
[15:16] <sebsebseb> Enpires: Grub can't find your partition, that's the problem
[15:16] <LjL> disappearedng: "man grep" will tell you that the "-n" option shows line numbers for matches
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> mshanks, so extract iso first, edit acpi, and re-build iso? Or is it chooseable on boot up ?
[15:16] <Enpires> LjL http://paste.ubuntu.com/142821/
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> ziroday` -> sure..
[15:16] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: on the livecd, there is an "other option" selection, go to there and add acpi=off
[15:16] <mshanks> Choosable on boot up
[15:16] <G8_Zer0> Ok, will reboot. brb 2 mins :)
[15:17] <mshanks> G8_Zer0; exactly as ziroday said :)
[15:17] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: you don't need to rebuild anything
[15:17] <G8_Zer0> my bad ;)
[15:17] <LjL> Enpires: err? do you have your Ubuntu installed on a *Windows* (NTFS) partition?!
[15:17] <disappearedng> LjL oh I was looking for -H btw thx
[15:17] <Enpires> yes with WUBI
[15:17] <eterna1> lol GB on boot options at start
[15:17] <Nasra> sebsebseb: is installed and ready to go, how do I test it with a flavour of linux?
[15:17] <Nasra> thanks
[15:17] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok you could have told me that earlier, and we could have saved time
[15:17] <LjL> Enpires: ah, i see. i don't know anything about how Wubi works, but it's likely entirely different from a normal install
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Enpires: LjL and me would both recommend against Wubi
[15:18] <Enpires> ehm... i didnt know it was important... sorry
[15:18] <kleinric> Pooria, there isnt a mysql package, are u trying to install the server?
[15:18] <sebsebseb> LjL: I know that you know certain things :D
[15:18] <Nasra> sebsebseb: I mean VirtualBox....
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yep ok
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: got the UBuntu ISO or CD?
[15:18] <LjL> Enpires: well i'm sorry but i don't think i have the slighest idea how to fix GRUB on a Wubi install
[15:18] <sebsebseb> Nasra: wait what are you testing?
[15:19] <LjL> Enpires: the instructions i was about to give you may likely just break it further
[15:19] <Nasra> sebsebseb: nothing ....
[15:19] <Enpires> understeand... however thanks 4 the lost time
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires: no not yet
[15:19] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i tpyed in 'sudo ifdown eth0' into the terminal and it came back with 'etc/network/intrfaces:14: option with empty value on the next line and then ifdown: couldnt read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces/" on the next line after that
[15:19] <G8_Zer0> Same result with acpi set to off
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires:  how much RAM does your computer have?
[15:19] <Nasra> sebsebseb: just want to get version of another linux   ----> Xandros
[15:19] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: hmm, also try with noapic
[15:19] <Enpires> 3gb
[15:19] <G8_Zer0> both ?
[15:19] <sebsebseb> Enpires: ok good
[15:19] <mshanks> Enpires, might be worth asking on the wubi support forums - from what Ljl and sebsebseb have said, sounds like your problem is there, rather than with ubuntu itself
[15:19] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: do other distro's/windows work?
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> or only noapic ?
[15:20] <mshanks> G8_Zer0, try with just noapic
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Enpires: on this so called broken PC you can get into Windows?  oh you can't since wubi
[15:20] <Devcoder> Kesman i tried the cd on an other computer, got the crc error again. Im guessing my cdrom/burner is fucked up.
[15:20] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: try with both, or only with noapic
[15:20] <Enpires> what's the Wubi channel?
[15:20] <kleinric> try sudo apt-get install mysql-   and then press tab until it lists the possible packages, thats what i generally do :P
[15:20] <mshanks> if that doesn't work, try them both (noapic and acpi=off
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, haven't tried, but should work-
[15:20] <Devcoder> Kesman how doues it sound to you?
[15:20] <Enpires> nono i cant get into windows
[15:20] <Nasra> sebsebseb: just remember just want to run as live cd mode....
[15:20] <LjL> mshanks: yep, i have no idea where those would be found (and don't see a wubi channel on freenode) though
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ewww don't do Xandros
[15:20] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you have a mistake on your interfaces file, you did get a chance to read man interfaces to see a sample interfaces file?
[15:20] <sebsebseb> Enpires: have you got Windows CD?
[15:20] <G8_Zer0> Will try noapic
[15:20] <unr3a1> Does anyone know why k3b wouldn't be able to recognize an external USB DVD/CD burner?
[15:20] <Nasra> sebsebseb: huh?
[15:20] <Enpires> no :\
[15:20] <ziroday`> Enpires: the forums have a wubi section, you might have better luck there
[15:20] <_spm_Draget> Is there a way to list all installed packages withotu dependencies.
[15:21] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: yes but  not all of it
[15:21] <Nasra> sebsebseb: which one?
[15:21] <Devcoder> Kesman you around? :D
[15:21] <LjL> Enpires, sebsebseb: besides, as far as i know, Wubi doesn't use GRUB to start Windows - it just adds an entry to Windows' boot.ini - its own bootloader. so the problem might be there and not in GRUB at all
[15:21] <Enpires> mmm doesnt exists a IRC wubi channel?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> LjL: yeah that sounds  about right
[15:21] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well if you dont read all of it, you'd miss important details
[15:21] <LjL> Enpires: not that i can see
[15:21] <unr3a1> Brasero recognizes the drive, so I dont understand why k3b cannot see it.
[15:21] <Enpires> ok so it's better if i try onwubi forum right?
[15:21] <sebsebseb> Nasra: download something
[15:21] <mshanks> Enpires, have a hunt around on some general support forums if you can't find any wubi-dedicated ones. You won't be the first to have this problem
[15:21] <sebsebseb> Nasra: other distro stuff is kind of off topic here though
[15:21] <Kesman> Devcoder: yes here
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman i tried the cd on an other computer, got the crc error again. Im guessing my cdrom/burner is fucked up.
[15:22] <Enpires> okok... thank you very much!!
[15:22] <LjL> Enpires: i would try that, yes - also try asking here again every 10 minutes or so (not more often than that), but be sure to specify you're on wubi
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman how doues it sound to you?
[15:22] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> here is a sample interfaces file ... http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[15:22] <Nasra> sebsebseb: I know that.....
[15:22] <ga_bash> _spm_Draget, dpkg -l | less
[15:22] <Enpires> ok! i'll do that ;)
[15:22] <Kesman> Devcoder: possible. If you only had a larger usb-stick around...
[15:22] <sebsebseb> Enpires: I have some ideas, but not the best ideas, but stuff that could work
[15:22] <Devcoder> Kesman and the cdroom might have coused the BSOD to right.
[15:22] <sysdoc> unr3a1, had the same problem with k3b, would cause the usb drive mount to break
[15:22] <Kesman> Devcoder: maybe
[15:22] <Enpires> sebsebseb you'll disconnect soon?
[15:22] <Enpires> *will you
[15:23] <Devcoder> Kesman and when i tried to install debian, it couldnt identify the cdrom. but when i installed debian on that computer before, it worked
[15:23] <NoobGuest> Can I get pointed in the right direction as far as anti-virus? Clam? and If Clam which package!?
[15:23] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:23] <Devcoder> Kesman im gonna try using an other rom. :D
[15:23] <Nasra> sebsebseb:   so any once I have the distro ready........just pop it in the CDROM and thats it ...or do I have to do anything in the Bios Settings/
[15:23] <Nasra> ?
[15:23] <sebsebseb> Enpires: no   and Nasra wants my help with something as well, that  goes off topic in here. so   both of you join my tempory channel  #nasraenpires
[15:23] <micca> Enpires, sounds like obi wan kenobi might help  ya ;p
[15:23] <_spm_Draget> ga_bash: are those packages without the automatically installed dependencies?
[15:23] <_spm_Draget> it looks like much
[15:24] <Nasra> ok
[15:24] <Enpires> :D
[15:24] <micca> ;)
[15:24] <ga_bash> _spm_Draget, i guess there are no standalone packages... there are always those that depend on libraries..
[15:24] <ga_bash> so dependency is always there
[15:24] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:24] <Kesman> Devcoder: do that
[15:24] <sebsebseb> Enpires: join that channel
[15:24] <valerix> salve
[15:24] <sebsebseb> Enpires: plus this is so busy etc
[15:25] <kleinric> Pooria, there is no mysql package, there is, however, mysql-server... this will work: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:25]  * micca thinks sebsebseb is gonna perform a virtual private lapdance
[15:25] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, does the same with noapic, acpi, noapic+acpi.  Will try with windows disk now. just to see if it works
[15:25] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i cant see any errors apart from forgetting to put the work netmask in front of the mask, but that shouldnt affect the dhcp card
[15:25] <unr3a1> sysdoc, what did you do to fix it?
[15:25] <hbekel> micca: everything on a single line?
[15:25] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: word*
[15:25] <dcamp25> Need assistance installing java
[15:26] <Kesman> yeah? sudo apt-get install java-jre
[15:26] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: hmph, that usually allows you boot it up, also do a memcheck and check cd for defects
[15:26] <sebsebseb> micca: not quite
[15:26] <micca> hbekel.. nope
[15:26] <dcamp25> did that, no applets run,  can not find class path
[15:26] <micca> hbekel: it seems ot be ok but a lot of those sqaures with 0008 in them between leters
[15:26] <sysdoc> unr3a1, sorry havent fixed it yet, just used Brasero
[15:26] <Kartagis> can ubuntu tell me what the model of my mobo is?
[15:27] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, it does boot up, but after choosing languaghe, alternate boot, etc, and shows ubuntu loading screen, 1-2 mins after it gives me busybox msg and initramsf
[15:27] <micca> (ya sorry sebsebseb, it is customary of me to throw out useless garble inbetween busy on topic discussions ;))
[15:27] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral ->  see those samples so you get an idea how it should be like
[15:27] <micca> and whilst im at it.. does nedit still exist.. do ppl still like it?
[15:27] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: right, which sounds like some seriously incompatible hardware or broken hardware. Personally I'm leaning towards the former
[15:27] <unr3a1> sysdoc, but I am having brasero problems as well.  brasero is unable to close discs
[15:27] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: and usually (hopefully) a boot option fixes that
[15:28] <unr3a1> sysdoc, which is why I am trying to use k3b.  I used it yesterday no problem, but now today, it says it can't find the cd/dvd drive
[15:28] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i just had a look at it and changed it and now when i type sudo ifdown eth0 i get ifown: interface eth 0 not configured
[15:28] <dcamp25> After installing sun-java-6  i get load class errors
[15:28] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> post your interfaces file again please
[15:28] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, boot option, like apic, noapic, etc? Cuz trying windows now, just to see if it installs
[15:28] <micca> hbekel: did you have somethign in mind or?
[15:28] <ziroday`> G8_Zer0: yep
[15:28] <eterna1> Dcamp is java-6  using your own java applet or other sites?
[15:28] <n8tuser> dcamp25 -> what errors ?
[15:29] <dcamp25> other sites
[15:29] <micca> hi guys.. i decompressed an install.txt.gz file and when i open it in gedit i get those binary square symbol thingies.. why ? and how do I remove them / get the correct output?
[15:29] <sysdoc> unr3a1, start by looking at thesae solutions. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/25380
[15:29] <mshanks> micca, removing them will remove the content of the file. sounds like some thing forked on the decompression.
[15:29] <kitche> micca: use gunzip
[15:29] <mshanks> likely, you did it you :p
[15:29] <magnetron> micca→ sounds like you didn't really decompress the file
[15:29] <dcamp25> the errors vary, but always load fail and some class object,  even on the java test page
[15:29] <macman_> anyone know a good ebook for linux command line
[15:30] <micca> mshanks kitche  i used gzip -d file.gz
[15:30] <ziroday`> !terminal | macman_
[15:30] <micca> was all i could remember
[15:30] <quibbler> !harddrive
[15:30] <eterna1> usually java class errors are to do with the applet you are loading not your source file of java,
[15:30] <n8tuser> dcamp25 -> your CLASSPATH okay? are you pointing at the correct java?
[15:30] <micca> but the original files are now gone
[15:30] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/142834/
[15:30] <dcamp25> I only have one installed.  I have tried to set classpath.  But I am 6 days old in ubuntu
[15:30] <micca> great , so now I have to reinstall ircd???? :(
[15:31] <Rytmis> bwuh?
[15:31] <micca> welcome back Rytmis
[15:31]  * micca goes and cries in a dark corner sigh
[15:31] <ziroday`> micca: why not just create a channel on an existing network
[15:32] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: do i have to reboot when i change them settings?
[15:32] <Irreducibilis> awww
[15:32] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you just do a  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:32] <micca> ziroday, i was through this before... because later I will port it to a standalone server system at an university
[15:32] <micca> and I want to run the set up here and test security etc etc
[15:32] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> btw, you have figured out which nic is which?
[15:32] <mshanks> micca; I told you it wasn't going to be easy :p
[15:33] <micca> i still am gutted that the gz files disappered though and weren decompressed
[15:33] <micca> LOL mshanks , this is just the readme files :P:P
[15:33] <Soyo> !nvidia
[15:33] <mshanks> It's a good way of stopping people who aren't ready for it yet getting started haha :p
[15:33] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: no thats what iw as trying to do when it was coming up with the errors
[15:33] <micca> well i already have found some other alternatives, but I wish to try out the ircd or hybridserver
[15:33] <micca> haha mshanks.. have faith!!! :D
[15:33] <septox_> hi ,
[15:34] <eterna1> !java
[15:34] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, About the machine, it's a former Pre-assambled machine (Parckard Bell), it ran windowsXP, I have a option in the bios about S.M.A.R.T options on IDE drive. Can this affect the problem?
[15:34] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> first thing i guess is figure out which is which, then well work from there..
[15:34] <septox_> it here a way to dwonlaod a virtualbox machine with ubuntu ?
[15:34] <micca> but its so crap as my .gz files are gone.. and now what.. can i download the docs only or :/
[15:34] <hbekel> micca: because gzip unzips in place. what does 'file install.txt' tell you?
[15:34] <ziroday> G8_Zer0: I doubt it, but go ahead
[15:34] <kitche> septox_: you mean a vm with ubuntu already preloaded?
[15:35] <fenn_> anyone running Jaunty?
[15:35] <mib_e205oh19> hi i have a wifi problem can anyone help me please
[15:35] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, ok :|
[15:35] <micca> hbekel: well it tells me partial paragraphs due to the squares :/
[15:35] <exon> need some help.... ii lost my menu on top op deskktopscreen of xubuntu  how can i make it visiable
[15:35] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i think doing that restart (which is prolly why i had probs in the first place) has just let me figure it out.....it was doing loads of DISCOVER's on eth0 and was gettign no where until i moved the ethernet cable to the next one, then it found it...so now i need to swap them over lol
[15:35] <septox_> kitche: yes
[15:35] <exon> darn keybord
[15:35] <hbekel> micca: you don't listen
[15:35] <ziroday> fenn_: the folks in #ubuntu+1 are
[15:35] <micca> exon:make a new one of paper and glue it on the top of the monitor (kidding)
[15:36] <kitche> septox_: don't think there is one out there you probably would need to do a google search or something along those lines
[15:36] <exon> LOL
[15:36] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: that restart commmand was what iw as missing all along lol now i need to swap them over
[15:36] <micca> hbekel: I do.. but I already had gzipped them and no longer have th eoriginals.. and now i only get partial information due to the binary squares showing up
[15:36] <exon> any help?
[15:36] <G8_Zer0> ziroday`, will go for Ultimate boot cd, test the hardware and then try again.
[15:36] <hbekel> micca: run the 'file'
[15:36] <hbekel> command
[15:36] <micca> ok
[15:36] <ziroday> G8_Zer0: good idea
[15:36] <artis> guys, i have to give remote assistance to a newbie (an old person, not completely computer-literate) running the latest stable ubuntu. he read me the error message over the phone. when the computer starts, it gives an error message connected with Gnome Settings Daemon not starting. the problem closely resembles this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html
[15:36] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well you are a paid tech doing this, am not..so hopefully you'll share the know how you learn from us :)
[15:37] <fenn_> ziroday: thanx
[15:37] <micca> hbekel couldnt do ./ but with sh just came a run error (its a .txt file)
[15:38] <ziroday> artis: ouch, you might want to take a look at http://code.google.com/p/gitso/ to help you out
[15:38] <kitche> micca: no he means file <file>
[15:38] <kitche> micca: file is a command it tells you what type of file the file you have is
[15:38] <artis> the error message, as it was transcribed to me over the phone says: "The remote application did not send a reply, the * security policy blocked the reply" Gnome Settings Daemon. it's very intensive on the hdd and cpu, the computer is overtaken by some task. log-in takes an hour or more.
[15:38] <ciphergoth> I'm sitting next to a laptop that I can't get to go online because I can't see the network icon in the notification area
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: is nm-applet running?
[15:39] <artis> how should i approach it?
[15:39] <ciphergoth> it's running Intrepid.  When me or Jess are logged in, we see the icon and we can get online, but Libby is logged in and she can't see it
[15:39] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok i have just tried to swap them over and  it has failed to being up eth1....didnt think it would be as easy as swapping the numbers round on the text
[15:39] <burun0> hello, how can i update via apt-cdrom my ubuntudapper to intrepid ? i trying apt-cdrom add in my iso file, and it fails...
[15:39] <micca> ah ok so sorry.. I havent beeno n linux for quite a while.. thank you kitche (sorry hbekel)
[15:39] <ciphergoth> zirroday: another user is running it
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: okay, is nm-applet running?
[15:39] <artis> it started to happen after routine automatic updates (sometime at the start of this week)
[15:39] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well, you have it figured out which is which?
[15:39] <_404> would like some recommendations for webbrowsers that would work well on a system with limited resources. I've tried Links 2 and Dillo. Any others?
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: ah right, now I understand
[15:39] <micca> hbekel: it says : INSTALL.txt: ASCII English text, with overstriking
[15:39] <ziroday> ciphergoth: what version of ubuntu?
[15:39] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: i thought i did
[15:39] <ciphergoth> Intrepid
[15:40] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: it seemed the added pci card was eth0 but now im not so sure
[15:40] <exon> any help how do i get menu visable again in left corner, also programm's dont show up anymore in menu at bottom
[15:40] <Jeruvy> _404: lynx
[15:40] <sebsebseb> _404: dillo
[15:40] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> well stick with one nic  just the one going to your router ,, is it getting an ip address? can you get to the internet?
[15:40] <micca> exon: tbh, why dont you use gnome or kde?
[15:40] <ciphergoth> ziroday: does the other user need to log out altogether, or can we run two instances of nm-applet?
[15:40] <sebsebseb> _404: altough browsers such as Firefox should be alright to
[15:40] <exon> xubuntu
[15:40] <artis> guys, i have to give remote assistance to a newbie (an old person, not completely computer-literate) running the latest stable ubuntu. he read me the error message over the phone. when the computer starts, it gives an error message connected with Gnome Settings Daemon not starting. the problem closely resembles this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html ; it started to happen after routine automatic updates (sometime at the start o
[15:40] <exon> for old pc
[15:41] <ziroday> ciphergoth: you should be able to use two together, but not sure
[15:41] <ciphergoth> ziroday: it doesn't like it
[15:41] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you switch those cables and possibly modify your interfaces file accordingly
[15:41] <sebsebseb> artis: are you doing VNC over SSH?  or  freenx.
[15:41] <micca> gnome is not demanding really if you keep it basic exon
[15:41] <_404> sebsebseb, firefox is a bit too much. pages with alot of scripts like gmail real slow it up. looking for something right in between.
[15:41] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC on it's own not secure over Internet
[15:41] <ciphergoth> it says it couldn't acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings as it is already takne
[15:41] <exon> i just let  my wife work on it 1 hour and look what happend
[15:41] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: they are both getting connection which is impossible!?
[15:41] <micca> lol
[15:41] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  _404
[15:41] <artis> sebsebseb, i can't know the IP address, because the user is behind dynamic DHCP. he has to log-in to give me the address.
[15:42] <ziroday> ciphergoth: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284596
[15:42] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you may be reading what is in cache, always do that /etc/init.d/networking restart to make sure
[15:42] <Nasra> !ext4
[15:42] <sebsebseb> _404: give galeon and epiphany-browser a try
[15:42] <Nasra> !xt4
[15:42] <exon> the xubuntu is she just messed it up
[15:42] <artis> sebsebseb, would you suggest booting as single-user and deleting %{HOME}/.gnome* ?
[15:42] <Nasra> !ext3
[15:42] <ziroday> ciphergoth: its a confirmed bug and is being worked on
[15:42] <sebsebseb> artis: uh what? I thought you just wanted to remote connect someone
[15:42] <exitist> artis: www.letmein.com seems like it is what you want
[15:42] <mib_e205oh19> hi, can someone help with my wireless problem ?
[15:43] <_404> sebsebseb, thanks, I will
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[15:43] <artis> sebsebseb, mind you that this has to be done remotely by instructing the said person over the telephone. there's no other option, unfortunately.
[15:43] <micca> exon: i would from me old experiences perhaps consider gnome or kde tbh
[15:43] <sebsebseb> !vnc | artis
[15:43] <micca> hbekel: it says : INSTALL.txt: ASCII English text, with overstriking
[15:43] <sebsebseb> artis: I have got people that weren't that good at computers,   set up with VNC over SSH :)  and explained over  IM
[15:43] <jobine> puis-je avoir de l,aide en français pour problème ''out of scan range''
[15:43] <micca> kitche, says english text file with overstrike
[15:44] <artis> sebsebseb, no the problem is connected with the Gnome Settings Daemon not starting, as i stated previously. i think you're confusing me with someone else. i'm perfectly aware of the VPN option.
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: however I can understand its a pain, you might want to look at the other bugs (particularly the gnome one) for possible workarounds
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: they do their bit, I do my bit, and then I can connect securely
[15:44] <artis> sebsebseb, as i stated, VPN or any other remote connection is not available at the time, because we have no way to know the IP address, which is not given until DHCP release.
[15:44] <ciphergoth> ziroday: it worked - thanks!
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: nah not confusing you at all,  just I didn't bother going on your link,  ok nevermind I guess
[15:44] <mib_e205oh19> the documention page does not help me with this wireless problem
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: what worked?
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: I don't do VPN
[15:44] <ciphergoth> ziroday: logging out both users then logging back in agian
[15:44] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: ok well i wanted the WAN on the onboard card....apparently the onboard card didnt like being called eth1 lol so i changed it to eth2 and it works
[15:44] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC  over SSH is the other secure way to do things
[15:44] <ziroday> ciphergoth: right
[15:44] <Lou_> Is there susposed to be a file named libc.so.6 ?
[15:45] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: prollt cause i have 3 cards in there to begin with
[15:45] <ziroday> Lou_: where?
[15:45] <artis> sebsebseb, i'm an openbsd user on daily basis. i know how to debug the systems etc.&etc. in this case i have to instruct the person remotely over the telephone, because i cannnot connect to the system myself.
[15:45] <micca> alright: is there a way to redownload onnly the docs part of a package or not?
[15:46] <sebsebseb> artis: well you can give them a SSH account, get them to install x11vnc.   give them two commands.  and yeah
[15:46] <artis> the only information i have gathered is the precise error message, hdd and cpu activity, sebsebseb
[15:46] <Lou_> ziroday, anywhere on the harddrive.
[15:46] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: now the only worrying thing is that the gigabit card which is set at a private address is connecting to the net, which it really shoudlnt should it, with no gateway set or anything lol
[15:46] <ziroday> Lou_: I don't have that file, but it doesn't mean anything. What are you trying todo?
[15:46] <wers> what processors are compatible with 64bit ubuntu?
[15:46] <micca> LOL that took one sec
[15:46] <artis> ! vpn
[15:46] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> are you sure? well do what ever it takes to get it going, just try to keep it straight
[15:47] <sebsebseb> artis: VNC over SSH I can help a little bit with, but VPN no not at all
[15:47] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> another way to figure out is via   sudo lshw -C network
[15:47] <micca> great.. i dont even have gzunzip
[15:47] <ziroday> wers: most, what processor are you thinking of buying/do you have?
[15:47] <Jimi_Neutral> n8thuser: my bad, it must have justr been the cached ubuntu/google start page
[15:47] <artis> sebsebseb, i need no help with openSSH, i'm proficient with it. what i want to know is the *reason* behind Gnome Settings Daemon failing after an automated and routine software update sometime earlier this week.
[15:48] <wers> ziroday, i'm sure with mine. i have a core 2 duo. how about core duos (without the "2")?
[15:48] <sebsebseb> artis: ok I can't help you
[15:48] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: its all working! ty so much for your help mate....im halfway there.....now i just gotta get clonezilla working! :s
[15:48] <simion314> hi i need a toool to convert a document into a read only document, i want that the viewers to be unable to copy the text, convert my text into images maybe, any ideea?
[15:48] <ziroday> wers: they should be 64bit as well, best thing to do is google the model number and 64bit for futher information
[15:48] <artis> sebsebseb, the precise error message, if it helps you at all, is "
[15:48] <wers> thanks ziroday :)
[15:48] <artis> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon."
[15:48] <ziroday> simion314: you mean turn it into a gpg signed pdf?
[15:49] <micca> simion.. making it an image or pdf or so ye.. pdf though dpeends on the client the users use.. in any way.. they can always make a print screen of the image and scan text etc etc
[15:49] <sebsebseb> artis: I don't know  enough about that stuff,  wait for someone else
[15:49] <ziroday> simion314: or a gpg signed email
[15:49] <artis> sebsebseb, ok
[15:49] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> you're welcome, usually i only nudge to get them in the right directions
[15:49] <mshanks> artis, I'm by no means an expert, but if they can boot without using Gnome, so into a console, could the daemon be started from there, or re-installed perhaps?
[15:49] <sebsebseb> artis: or maybe even ask in #linux since your issue is not exaclty distro specific?
[15:49] <Lou_> ziroday, I want to reinstall libc.so.6.  What package would it be in?
[15:50] <ziroday> Lou_: where is that file?
[15:50] <artis> mshanks, yes that could be done, although we have to keep in mind that i would have to dictate the precise prosedure over the phone. so, it is best if i can keep it simple & short.
[15:50] <jobine> aide en français pour ''out of scan range''
[15:50] <hbekel> micca: try 'cat install.txt | col -b > install.txt2'
[15:50] <will__> how do I mount a filesystem manually as root, but still enabling regular users to read/write to that filesystem
[15:51] <mshanks> I see. Perhaps a shorter/easier way would be to have them install ssh (assuming it's not already?), you connect and do it through console?
[15:51] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: Now i dont mind that, if i was at home and it was cause i want to learn it in my own time, but this was my boss hammering me to get it down when he knows i dont even know linux
[15:51] <micca> thanks hbekel: btw. gunzip -d did the same thing to the file
[15:51] <simion314> ziroday: i seen that pdf is not secure, and to scan the text on my language with be hard because the software uses english dictionary and romanian alphabet has more letters
[15:51] <quibbler> !fr | jobine
[15:51] <hbekel> micca: gunzip unzips IN PLACE
[15:51] <Lou_> ziroday, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[15:51] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: so ty again for the indepth help :)
[15:51] <ziroday> simion314: well you can always export your file as a postscript file
[15:51] <artis> mshanks, i don't think that re-installing the daemon would be of any help. i think there's no problem with it. it is likely that some configuration file has been changed to stop the Gnome Settings Daemon from properly starting.
[15:51] <ziroday> Lou_: install apt-file, then do apt-file /path/to/libc.so.6
[15:52] <jobine> merci
[15:52] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> get your boss some doughnuts  and coffee -- he'll be quiet for a while.. lol
[15:52] <micca> ok hbekel: someoen said to use it instead of gzip.. anyway... I get a permission denied when i do the command with sudo in front of it
[15:52] <Lou_> ziroday, thanks!
[15:53] <simion314> ziroday: so postcript saves the document as images? not as text?
[15:53] <ziroday> simion314: I believe so
[15:53] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: hahah, i would if my place of work was not in the middle of an industrial estate in the middle of no where with all the shope 40 mins walk away there an back! lol
[15:54] <bitwiser> anyone know a clever way to unrar multiple 'sets' of rar files.. unrar e *.rar doesn't work
[15:54] <micca> can I pm you hbekel?
[15:54] <hbekel> micca: if you have to
[15:54] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> be on the look out of the canteen truck, and get your boss all the sweets you can and fed him that..lol
[15:54] <apelgate> hello
[15:54] <apelgate> how do I see what version of a specific package is installed?
[15:55] <Jimi_Neutral> n8tuser: heheh.....while i got u for a minute tho, (dont worry this is nothign major) someone said to me yesterday to make 3 partitions for ubuntu....this is for my own personal use cause i wanna get away from windows....i cant remeber what the reaosn was tho for 3 partitions...any idea whay 3?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: /    /home and swap
[15:55] <mrwes> Jimi_Neutral: One for / (root) /home and /swap
[15:55] <n8tuser> Jimi_Neutral -> minimum   ..per sebsebseb
[15:55] <bitwiser> for i in *.rar; do unrar e $i; done .. works ;)
[15:56] <Jimi_Neutral> ah i see it is a well known thing lol....can someone give me a linky for a show you how
[15:56] <sebsebseb> n8tuser: what?
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: you can do it via commands or graphicalley
[15:56] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: graphically on live cd would be easier
[15:56] <n8tuser> sebsebseb -> your recommendation is good for Jimi_Neutral
[15:57] <Ropechoborra> How can i configure my microphone ?
[15:57] <mrwes> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning
[15:57] <sebsebseb> Jimi_Neutral: I   start setting stuff up in the partition editior,  on the LIve CD, then finnish it off in manual install
[15:57] <Jimi_Neutral> sebsebseb: ok i can do that, i have luive running at the mo on my other box cause i just had to partition
[15:57]  * Doonz is having a blank moment. whats the command to pull up the os version in ssh
[15:57] <Jimi_Neutral> ty ty and ty :)
[15:57] <mrwes> uname -r
[15:57] <artis> guys, this error has not been fixed in almost three years: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-577946.html it's unbelievable that users still need to be seeking for solutions where no concrete one exists. for heaven's sake - in their mind, they run a stable operating system.
[15:57] <Doonz> thank you
[15:58] <quibbler> apelgate-> dpkg -l | grep name_of_package
[15:58] <Doonz> how can i see what flavor of linux a server is running
[15:58] <artis> Doonz, uname -a
[15:58] <Doonz> Linux K008 2.6.28.9 #1 SMP Sun Mar 29 17:47:47 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux <-- wth version of linux is this
[15:58] <mrwes> ahh..yah -r is just the kernel, right?
[15:58] <Doonz> yeah
[15:59] <Doonz> i was trying -A
[15:59] <mrwes> duh
[15:59] <Doonz> and then -R
[15:59] <mrwes> heh
[15:59] <exitist> $ uname -r   == 2.6.22-14-generic
[15:59] <G8_Zer0> Is there anyway to test if my hardware is compatible to Ubuntu? Tried installing, several discs, etc, doing hardware test now, but maybe Ubuntu wont accept på maibboard, chipset or something? Is there any bootable iso which can test hardware for ubuntu?
[15:59] <exitist> dam this is old
[16:00] <G8_Zer0> Getting in console, when tyrying to install.. ends out with cosole mode, Busybox version xxxx... (initramfs)...
[16:00] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupport
[16:00] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: try the Live CD with your hardware?
[16:00] <Doonz> Linux K008 2.6.28.9 #1 SMP Sun Mar 29 17:47:47 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux <-- wth version of linux is this
[16:00] <wers> will i be able to install 32 bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:00] <DJones> Doonz: If you want the release name, you could use "lsb_release -a"
[16:00] <quibbler> wers-> yes
[16:00] <sebsebseb> wers: depends
[16:01] <DJones> Doonz: That'll tell you hardy/intrepid etc
[16:01] <Doonz> ok interesting
[16:01] <wers> sebsebseb, depends on?
[16:01] <Doonz> they installed ubuntu with a root user
[16:01] <bitwiser> wers: yes, but it's not trivial
[16:01] <Doonz> :/
[16:01] <DJones> logout
[16:01] <G8_Zer0> quibbler, This is a former PackardBell Desktop, Packard Bell ain't on the list, so this must be the reason I can't make it install? :(
[16:01] <bitwiser> wers: you have to create a chroot
[16:01] <sebsebseb> wers: well you might get the, your installing on the wrong architecture message
[16:02] <wers> ooh
[16:02] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> could be
[16:02] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: how to install 32bit apps on 64bit?
[16:02] <wers> sebsebseb, will i have problems with flash and other
[16:02] <G8_Zer0> Buhu :(
[16:02] <bitwiser> sebsebseb: create a chroot
[16:02] <wers> commercial apps?
[16:02] <Jimi_Neutral> ok i have 78GiB left as an empty partition and that needs to be split into root home and swap...so how much should i give to each
[16:02] <sebsebseb> !chroot
[16:02] <sebsebseb> wers: no and there's a very good 64bit Flash from Adobe
[16:03] <bitwiser> wtf
[16:03] <cip> ragazzi ho provato la live di 9.04 e non mi dava problemi con la stamapante
[16:03] <bitwiser> wers
[16:03] <bitwiser> no there isnt
[16:03] <cip> posso sistemare la 8.1
[16:03] <bitwiser> I mean
[16:03] <bitwiser> sebsebseb, the alpha flash player for amd64 is NOT good
[16:03] <sebsebseb> !fr
[16:03] <bitwiser> it's horrible
[16:03] <wers> what possible problems will i face with 64 bit?
[16:03] <LjL> !it | cip
[16:03] <G8_Zer0> quibbler, What I can see from bios, it's a AMD Ahtlon 2400, 1 gb ddr400. Did think the mainboard could do that much, do to OS to choose :(
[16:03] <bitwiser> wers: did you already buy the hardware ?
[16:03] <LjL> sebsebseb: if you have no idea what language someone is speaking, don't guess... *rolleyes*
[16:03] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: well Flash is horrible full stop!
[16:04] <wers> bitwiser, i already have a core2duo but i've been running 32bit ubuntu on it since i bought it
[16:04] <quibbler> G8_Zer0-> check the board in that url i sent you.
[16:04] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: swap should be ram x 1.5 to 2
[16:04] <tschaub> I'm stuck in low-graphics mode after an upgrade to 8.10.  Anybody have any pointers on fixing an xorg.conf?
[16:04] <bitwiser> wers: keep 32bit.. it's more user friendly ... you using it as a desktop ?
[16:04] <G8_Zer0> ok
[16:04] <spapawan> this is pawan saxena
[16:04] <spapawan> from india
[16:04] <sebsebseb> tschaub: not as such, and did you install the graphics card driver?
[16:04] <spapawan> hi
[16:04] <spapawan> friend
[16:05] <sebsebseb> LjL: ok
[16:05] <wers> bitwiser, yep. laptop for typical personal use
[16:05]  * micca gets a cod and slaps the chair
[16:05] <quibbler> !welcome | spapa
[16:05] <bitwiser> wers: I use a 64bit box... I have to use VirutalBox to view flash websites, and there are problems with java as well
[16:05] <spapawan> we do international business.  our website address www.spaindia.net  u r welcome to chat with private for business talks
[16:05] <bitwiser> wers: no reason to install 64bit... the only difference is 64 allows more ram
[16:05] <orifice_work> flash doesn't have a 64bit binary ?
[16:05] <wers> bitwiser, aw. thanks for pointing that out. i dont want to experience those
[16:06] <Cycom> Personally, I feel the only reason to use 64-bit is if you have large memory requirements (4gb+)
[16:06] <Cycom> bitwiser: I am able to use flash in 64-bit... java too...
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: bitwise is saying some stuff that isn't quite true
[16:06] <zamba> i want to use rdiff-backup between ubuntu dapper and debian lenny.. rdiff-backup on lenny is 1.2.5 and on dapper is 1.1.5.. how can i get a newer version of rdiff-backup on the dapper box?
[16:06] <tschaub> sebsebseb: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers shows that the recommended NVIDIA driver is in use
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: there is 64bit Flash
[16:06] <bitwiser> sebseb: I run a 64bit box
[16:06] <wers> sebsebseb, hmm. okay. so would you recommend 64bit for me?
[16:06] <Jimi_Neutral> Dreamglider: ok how does it become swap, do i just label it that?#
[16:06] <bitwiser> do you ?
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: Java  I think there might even be a 64bit plugin now.  you can run 32bit  stuff anyway
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: do you have 4gb of ram?
[16:06] <quibbler> orifice_work-> yes: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.htm
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: or more than that?
[16:06] <wers> Cycom, just 1gb
[16:06] <Cycom> wers: then no, 64-bit is a waste.
[16:06] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: do you use Gparted ?
[16:06] <exitist> updates suck balls
[16:06] <sebsebseb> wers: I would recommend 32bit if you got 1GB
[16:07] <orifice_work> so why would you use a vbox to view flash websites ?
[16:07] <bitwiser> sebseb: just because there is a plugin doesnt mean it works... the flash plugin crashes firefox/everything else.. it's compeltely useless
[16:07] <orifice_work> (according to bitwiser)
[16:07] <hypucker> !ohmy | exitist
[16:07] <Cycom> wers: 64-bit is primarily useful if you have 4gb or more of memory. otherwise, stick to 32 bit.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: depends, and yes I have had my own issues with that on 32bit
[16:07] <_VIM_> bah hypucker you beat me to it ;P
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: also there's Gnash and Swfdec as alternatives
[16:07] <Lint01> can I use XFCE desktop in Ubuntu?
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Lint01: yes
[16:07] <Promille> Hey guys. Does anyone know of any mp3 splitters? If it could read from .cue files too, it would be awesome. Thanks in advance
[16:07] <waylandbill> hello. I set my network manager to manual configuration and now I have no choice to select dhcp wireless network. I know there is a file to edit but can't recall which one. Anyone know?
[16:07] <Cycom> Lint01: there's a whole ubuntu distro for that too :) Xubuntu.
[16:07] <Dreamglider> Lint01: yea
[16:07] <bitwiser> sebseb: there is no working flash player for amd64, gnash and swfdec don't work on commerical/professional/complicated sites
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Lint01: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <wers> 32 bit, then :) wont experiment with that. hehe
[16:08] <Jimi_Neutral> Dreamglider: Yes i do
[16:08] <bitwiser> wers: I've spent unreal amounts of time trying to get flash/java working right.. most of the time firefox just crashes (with the official flash plugin from adobe)
[16:08] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: ok well go an whine at Youtube, and  other websites that use Flash for video, and tell them to use a open format instead, that is a real vidoe format, OGG etc
[16:09] <Lint01> has it a keyboard switcher? I've tried some distros, not one had it, and inet instructions are quite outdated.
[16:09] <Promille> Hey guys. Does anyone know of any mp3 splitters? If it could read from .cue files too, it would be awesome. Thanks in advance
[16:09] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: indeed though Flash is pretty much pointless, except for this Flash video stupidity
[16:09] <bitwiser> sebseb: not my problem, I use vbox with an xp machine, so I can watch youtube/fox.com(house m.d)/etc with no issues
[16:09] <wers> bitfish, aw. that's too impractical. i dont think the advantages of installing 64bit would be worth it then
[16:09] <silner> Is there an easy way to read/edit the aspell custom dictionary?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: you can run the 32bit apps
[16:10] <wers> i meant, bitwiser
[16:10] <bitwiser> wers: for me it is, I have over 4GB ram
[16:10] <wers> sebsebseb, how easy is it to install 32bit apps?
[16:10] <bitwiser> sebseb: it's a can of worms.. why mess with it
[16:10] <sebsebseb> wers: you got 1GB RAM like me, so just do the 32bit version
[16:11] <wers> okay. got it
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: by the way
[16:11] <nyaa> I seem to have somehow gotten flash working in 64 bit ages ago
[16:11] <nyaa> but now I don't know how I did it =/l
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: 9.04 with optional Ext4 supopurt is just around the corner in a few weeks
[16:11] <bitwiser> wers: the only difference beyond applicatoins optimized for 64, is the 4gb ram limit
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: so if you install 8.10 now,  well
[16:11] <Scavenger09> Can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with Clonezilla? User error on my part I think
[16:11] <wers> sebsebseb, and what does it have to do with 64bit?
[16:11] <sebsebseb> wers: nothing, and you going way off topic
[16:12] <wers> okay. i have intrepid now. i'll install jaunty when it's out and i've been planning to format my root as ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: yeah that's what I was getitng at basically,   at the moment some data loss issue or whatever with Ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: ,but yeah clean install for Ext4
[16:13] <sebsebseb> wers: or limited functionality after doing something to Ext3
[16:14] <nyaa> whats this problem with ext4? =(
[16:14] <wers> sebsebseb, there's data loss on ext4?
[16:14] <wers> you mean, it's buggy?
[16:14] <Scavenger09> /join #clonezilla
[16:14] <Scavenger09> oops, sorry
[16:14] <sebsebseb> wers: depends, but  there has been a dataloss issue.  I am waiting for 9.04  final before I get rid of this beta, and put 9.04 on  with Ext4.  I mean I am waiting for good reviews for Ext4
[16:15] <sebsebseb> wers: yes running it on Ext3, anyway this is offtopic here, but not in #ubuntu+1  ,but I think I still can't join there again
[16:16] <wers> why cant you, sebsebseb ?
[16:16] <sebsebseb> wers: ,because I got banned, and not meant to talk about that here either
[16:16] <wers> hahaha. ok
[16:16] <Scavenger09> sebseb: are you fluent with clonezilla?
[16:17] <justina> jo
[16:17] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: no never used it
[16:17] <Scavenger09> okayk
[16:17] <sebsebseb> justina: hi
[16:17] <justina> hi
[16:17] <Scavenger09> What do you use to clone your system?
[16:17] <partymola> hello
[16:17] <sebsebseb> !backup
[16:17] <micca> hehe mshanks I do see what you mean.. but the irc conf is no larger than a mysql server tbh.. and albeit more than half a decade ago.. i did configure several mysql and apache servers etc
[16:17] <sebsebseb> !cloning
[16:18] <torkel_> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.04 beta on an older Macbook (version 1.1) and are getting some performance issues using Intel GMA :/ Compiz is lagging like hell (it was fine in 8.10 on the same computer), turning on the uxa acceleration the performance is a bit better than in 8.10, but it's to unstable to use. Is there some way to get back the performance I had in 8.10 with the same stability? Now without uxa enabled I can't even watch youtube
[16:18] <Scavenger09> Do you know if any / all of them overwrite the mbr when they restore an ntfs partition? I restored using clonezilla and it left a virus on the system, which I am assuming was in the mbr?
[16:18] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: see above
[16:18] <partymola> hello, is there some Ubuntu IRC channel for bugs & troubleshooting them. I have found out a bug that doesn't allow me boot 9.04 beta in my laptop.
[16:18] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: Windows goes over the MBR when you install that
[16:19] <Picipod> !jaunty | torkel_
[16:19] <sebsebseb> partymola: #ubuntu-bugs
[16:19] <oCean_> torkel_: all Jaunty issues/discsussions go in channel #ubuntu+1 please
[16:19] <partymola> thanks, sebsebseb
[16:19] <Scavenger09> Hmmm, I was hoping that you would not say that... It is baffling how the virus survived even after I installed from the image
[16:19] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: why are you running Wndows?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> partymola: np
[16:20] <Scavenger09> I use it for some recording apps at home
[16:20] <zamba> i want to install a newer version of rdiff-backup for ubuntu dapper..
[16:20] <Scavenger09> XP
[16:20] <zamba> how can i do that?
[16:20] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: if your computer has enough RAM, you can run a XP virtual machine inside Ubuntu for that
[16:20] <Scavenger09> I do have a VM for XP, but it will not run my recording gear - something with the drivers
[16:20] <Scavenger09> so I'm stuck with an install of XP
[16:20] <sebsebseb> zamba: Dapper is nearly no longer suppourted
[16:21] <sebsebseb> Scavenger09: I expect you can get that sorted out in #vbox
[16:21] <Lint01> sebsebseb: all people who run Windows, do it for it's better hardware compatibility
[16:21] <sebsebseb> Lint01: wrong, most do it, because of the software it runs
[16:21] <Lint01> so vm usually is not tht choice
[16:21] <oCean_> sebsebseb: dapper has 5 years of support, not?
[16:21] <Scavenger09> I have been meaning to  check out vb
[16:21] <Scavenger09> vbox
[16:21] <Scavenger09> Better support than VM?
[16:21] <Cycom> Lint01: unless you're me.  I run ubuntu because Vista didn't have sound drivers that worked with my mobo's intel audio :)
[16:22] <sebsebseb> oCean_: 3 years suppourt on desktop 5 on server
[16:22] <Scavenger09> I hate Vista
[16:22] <Scavenger09> !
[16:22] <Picipod> sebsebseb, zamba: 6.06 is supported until 2011 on the server.
[16:22] <Picipod> !ot | Scavenger09
[16:22] <MacMoose> Has anyone here happened to use a WordPress  blog before?
[16:22] <oCean_> sebsebseb: right, 5 yr for *server*
[16:22] <Scavenger09> Umm, Picipod - I was just responding to a Vista comment, sorry
[16:23] <Picipod> MacMoose: Wordpress support can be found in #wordpress
[16:23] <sebsebseb> zamba: are you running 6.06 on a desktop or server?
[16:23] <tschaub> sebsebseb: any pointers on fixing nvidia driver issues (if that's what it is)?  I added details to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/278055
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: no
[16:23] <pluscool> hello all! I quick Q: Is something wrong with mic sound in 8.10? I cant get a understandable sound in skype.
[16:23]  * tschaub moves on to sound issues
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: altough the obviosu questiosn
[16:23] <Dreamglider> can i isntall Ubuntu (or any other linux distro) on a extended partition ?
[16:23] <sebsebseb> tschaub: how old is your card?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> tschaub: which verson of Ubuntu?
[16:24] <sebsebseb> !partitining
[16:24] <sebsebseb> Dreamglider: yes
[16:24] <tschaub> sebsebseb: machine is 1.5 yrs old, this is an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[16:24] <sebsebseb> tschaub: well maybe you should have stuck with 8.04
[16:25] <sebsebseb> tschaub: 8.10 and 8.04 have completly differnet versions of xorg
[16:25] <G8_Zer0> zirokay... there ?
[16:25] <jms32> wine is opened programm. But text encoding is incorrect. How i can fix t?
[16:25] <sebsebseb> jms32: #winehq
[16:25] <tschaub> sebsebseb: good to know - obviously not something I was aware of (or understand the implications of)
[16:26] <sebsebseb> tschaub: basically certain cards won't work anymore at all with 8.10's xorg, or your going to have issues with them, even though they worked in 8.04's xorg
[16:26] <sebsebseb> !xorg
[16:26] <cajun> I'm running awn-trunk and Gnome on Kubuntu Intrepid and i want to know if anyone knows of a setting to keep a maximized window from maximizing the height completely. Over the weekend I reinstalled everything but on my prior installation, a maximized window did not go behind th AWN bar, but right now the AWN bar is on top of the bottom portion of the window.  This interferes with any use of the bottom portion of the window.
[16:26] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[16:27] <tschaub> sebsebseb: any list of cards known not to work?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: no
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: don't think so
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: well maybe some where. Google?
[16:27] <pluscool> hello all! A quick Q: Is something wrong with mic sound in 8.10? I cant get a understandable sound in skype. If I uninstall pulse audio does it help?
[16:28] <G8_Zer0> I Need to build a new cheap and good ubuntu server. It will only host ftp server. any brand for mainboard/motherbaord you'll recommed so it will work with Ubuntu?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> pluscool: you will need to configure the sound in Skype, but I am not so sure as how to do that
[16:28] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: no, but 8.04  as the Ubuntu version
[16:28] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: since that's recommended for servers
[16:28] <n2diy> anybody suggest a good time trakker suitbale for billing customers?
[16:28] <Lucky58> cia a tt
[16:28] <Lucky58> !list
[16:29] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: ask  in  #linux about  Linux compatible hardware
[16:29] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: or maybe even #hardware
[16:29] <G8_Zer0> Cuz I tried to rebuild it out of an former packard bell dekstop, and ubuntu wont install, so will order some newstuff
[16:29] <G8_Zer0> ok thanks
[16:29] <pluscool> sebsebseb: Tnx. I tried that and skype says all ok. the sound I send is bad, not understandable.-
[16:30] <sebsebseb> pluscool: just wait, someone else will be able to help
[16:30] <cognitiaclaeves> Does ubuntu's implementation of screen suffer from not the message "termcap does not specify how to change the terminal's height" when trying to change height with:  "^a:height" ?
[16:30] <pluscool> sebsebseb: thanks anyway!
[16:30] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: good luck!
[16:31] <G8_Zer0> thx ;)
[16:31] <bennina> salve. mi è morta una pennetta/lettore mp3 da 1 gb come posso fare a formattarla/ recuperarla? quando la inserisco mi dice: "impossibile montare il volume "
[16:31] <LjL> !it | bennina
[16:31] <bennina> oops sorry!
[16:32] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone here installed digikam 0.9.5 ?
[16:32] <thm> hi! is there a way of putting the 9.04 beta usb image on an usb stick without wiping the stick's data?
[16:32] <jamiejackson> Is Subversion 1.6 available in any repos or as a .deb anywhere?
[16:32] <sebsebseb> thm: find out in #ubuntu+1
[16:32] <oCean_> thm: all jaunty issues go in channel #ubuntu+1, since it is still beta
[16:33] <demontager> How to share pppoe connection in order to connect windows machines via router?
[16:33] <thm> oCean_: sebsebseb ok, fine. the question itself is not related to a certain release, but anyway.
[16:33] <lyhana8> is a digikam 0.9.5 avaible into repo ?
[16:34] <arvind_khadri> !find digikam
[16:34] <LjL> lyhana8: no, version 0.10 will be available in Jaunty though
[16:34] <lyhana8> arvind_khadri: don't find the v0.9.5
[16:35] <Mellie> Hi is there anyone who needs help?
[16:35] <exitist> anyone here using 7.10 gutsy gibbon and is it worth upgrading to 8.10?
[16:35] <lyhana8> LjL: i'm on hardy => 0.9.5
[16:35] <Mellie> If nor Il leave
[16:35] <LjL> Mellie: if someone needs support, they'll ask, usually.
[16:36] <Mellie> fine
[16:37] <Mellie> Good bye enjoy your day.
[16:40] <thm> ok. #ubuntu+1 redirected me back here. how do I put *any* install/live .img on an usb stick without completely wiping it?
[16:40] <oCean_> exitist: you might want to consider upgrading to 8.04, which is LTS release. Or wait till end of april when 9.04 is released
[16:40] <LjL> thm: netbootin is one way
[16:41] <n2diy> anybody suggest a good time tracker suitable for billing customers?
[16:41] <LjL> thm: unetbootin, even
[16:42] <thm> LjL: thx, will have a look.
[16:42] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: you there?
[16:42] <LjL> shadeslayer: can you use PM to ask that...
[16:43] <energetic> where can i find the alt-tab or windowskey-tab appswitching UI code? compiz, ubuntu or gnome?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> LjL: its actually a ubuntu problem i left yesterday
[16:43] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: hi; what's up
[16:43] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: did you check the link i gave you?
[16:44] <erUSUL> energetic: in the code of the window manager you use. if it is compiz or metacity or whatever
[16:44] <energetic> ok, gracias
[16:44] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: you will have to refresh my memory...
[16:44] <michael__> hi! can anybody tell me how i find out whether there is a 32bit or a 64bit version of ubuntu installed on the current pc?
[16:44] <erUSUL> michael__: uname -m
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: my ntfs mounts only with root,possibly bad fstab
[16:45] <michael__> erUSUL: so x86_64 means for sure 64 bit ?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL:i couldnt "see" the ntfs in ' Places '
[16:45] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: i recomended using ntfs-config but that failed... didn't it?
[16:45] <erUSUL> michael__: yep
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: yes
[16:46] <michael__> erUSUL: thx
[16:46] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: then i posted a link which described the problem as not having ,user, as on of the options in fstab
[16:47] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[16:47] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:47] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ive already queried the bot :)
[16:47] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: there you will find the correct options
[16:48] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: specificaly here in that section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Editing%20Ubuntu%27s%20filesystem%20table
[16:48] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: sure ill give it a spin
[16:49] <ihminen> I'm running a live cd  (8.10) but have trouble with the network - the computer does get an IP address and the right primary DNS, but it cannot ping, browse the internet or local network and also the routing table is empty. Trying to add a default gateway results in SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted. What can I do_
[16:49] <StR|Sangreal> hello, pls could you advise me some sw for editing images, but not layer based, so that its capable enough but not too compex to learn?
[16:49] <Mehdi> hello, for some reason I am banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, any clues how to get around it (no idea why)
[16:49] <LjL> Mehdi: ask in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:49] <supermouse> Hi Guys, can other users be added to a users primary group? i.e adding a user to the mysql users mysql primary group so that the user can access /usr/lib/mysql
[16:50] <shadeslayer> ping shadeslayer
[16:50] <shadeslayer> oops
[16:52] <michael__> erUSUL: just a last question about the 32/64bit stuff ... isnt an amd64-version ab better choice than x86_64? because i run a amd athlon 64bit?
[16:52] <suigeneris> hello
[16:52] <erUSUL> michael__: it is the same thing amd64 is just the name given in cd's and other places x86_64 is what the kernel gives when answered but it is the same thing
[16:53] <the10nitro> supermouse: if you go to System->Users and Groups->_username_->Properties->Advanced
[16:53] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: should i change /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_IN 0 0 to /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[16:53] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[16:53] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: yes but use rw instead of ro
[16:53] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:54] <michael__> erUSUL: i just ask because i ve got 2 installation cds right here ... one labelled 32bit and one 64bit ... and i am not sure which one i used for installation ...
[16:54] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: whats rw for btw?
[16:54] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: rw--> read/writte || ro --> read only
[16:55] <erUSUL> michael__: your cpu supports 64 bits ? how much ram do you have ?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:55] <akazawa> can someone reccomend the easiest way to migrate from one hard drive to a new hard drive? I have an external usb case for the new hard drive so I can transfer partitions
[16:55] <michael__> erUSUL: it is a athlon64 4000+ with 2gb ram
[16:56] <erUSUL> michael__: with 2 Gb of ram 32 bit is safest choice (althought your cpu supports 64 bits)
[16:56] <akazawa> what is the easiet way to migrate to a new hard drive?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: will it work only after reboot?
[16:56] <erUSUL> akazawa: partimage can copy partitions (i think gparted can too)
[16:56] <thiebaude> michael__: 64bit
[16:57] <michael__> erUSUL: ok ... but why safer? i jsut want it more performant :-)
[16:57] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: try "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3"
[16:57] <akazawa> erUSUL: does it also copy the bootlaoder?
[16:57] <nmpribeiro> hi there. Any dvd player to ubuntu?
[16:57] <epaphus> hey guys, is it easy to use wine.. to be able to play none free formats of movies?
[16:57] <zamba> Seeb: server
[16:57] <zamba> sebsebseb: server
[16:57] <Sonderblade> nmpribeiro: totem and mplayer can play dvds
[16:57] <erUSUL> michael__: welll thwere are some things that not work to well in 64 bits... w32codecs the java firefox plugin and a few others
[16:57] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[16:58] <zamba> sebsebseb: running dapper on a server, that is :)
[16:58] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: Remounting is not supported at present. You have to umount volume and then mount it once again.
[16:58] <zamba> so it's supported until 2011
[16:58] <nmpribeiro> sonderblade: and it's structure also?
[16:58] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: well "sudo mount /dev/sda3"
[16:58] <UbuntuCop>  where do I get the official list of improvements of 9.04 ?
[16:58] <suigeneris> !dapper
[16:58] <fosco__> epaphus, wine is easy to use, but you can play any media with native linux players
[16:58] <suigeneris> !lts
[16:59] <michael__> erUSUL: so is x86_64 the best choice for the actual hardware?
[16:59] <Sonderblade> nmpribeiro: there may be bugs in the menues, but i've never seen a dvd that couldn't be played at all
[16:59] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: cant it mount without sudo?
[17:00] <erUSUL> michael__: no. again if you have 2 GB of ram there is no reason to go 64 bit... you can if you want and can live withe the very few drawbcks
[17:00] <nmpribeiro> Sounderblade: well... these ones are produced by me... but function in allmost any device. thanks anyway
[17:00] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: it will be mounted automatically at boot. you do not need to worry anymore
[17:00] <michael__> erUSUL: ok :-) thanx for your help, have a nice day ;-)
[17:00] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: i think my best bet it to upgrade to beta with ext4,im quite excited to try out jaunty since i have a pretty messed up install right now
[17:00] <erUSUL> michael__: no problem
[17:00] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:01] <epaphus> fosco_, apparently i was told here that certain .wmv have a none free encryption.. that involed a DMF identifier.. which i cannot play in linux...
[17:01] <Lego> hello could someone help me. i have re-installed kubuntu, (yes i know this is the kubuntu channel) but when kdm boots and I log in it kde4.1 splash freezes.. and when i try the failsafe i get this error  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.
[17:01] <suigeneris> hello?
[17:01] <nmpribeiro> what to do with unsupported devices in linux? how can one help to give info about the problem and to who will I give it? any kernel module developer there?
[17:01] <akazawa> suigeneris: hello
[17:02] <Antec-0303> I could use some help installing ubuntu 8.10
[17:02] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[17:02] <akazawa> suigeneris: did you install a new videocard?
[17:02] <suigeneris> akazawa, nope
[17:03] <akazawa> suigeneris: nothing new?
[17:03] <suigeneris> akazawa, nope
[17:03] <UbuntuCop> any improvements with notebooks> specially wireless?
[17:03] <akazawa> suigeneris: have you already reset your machine?
[17:03] <the10nitro> If I swap 2 paragraphs in a text doc, would GNU diff tell me that I moved one, or that one was deleted, and another added?
[17:04] <suigeneris> akazawa, reset how?
[17:04] <akazawa> suigeneris: power-cycle
[17:04] <epaphus> how do I play windows media player within wine??
[17:04] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: compaired to when?
[17:04] <suigeneris> akazawa, there was a power failure yesterday
[17:04] <akazawa> suigeneris: was the resolution fine before the power failure?
[17:04] <UbuntuCop> Heimark> UbuntuCop: compaired to when?// previous version
[17:05] <suigeneris> akazawa, yes
[17:05] <MidnighToker> epaphus: in wine?
[17:05] <Picassotamus> epaphus: wine name_of_windows_media_player_executable.exe
[17:05] <magnetron> !appdb | epaphus
[17:05] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: are you talking 8.10 to 8.04?
[17:05] <UbuntuCop> 8.10
[17:05] <epaphus> Picassotamus, for that i need to grab the windows media player executable.. from somewhere right?
[17:05] <Heimark> 9.04*
[17:06] <MidnighToker> epaphus: why not just install the codecs and use totem/whatever media player you use?
[17:06] <akazawa> suigeneris: did you get an error when you started up after the power failure?
[17:06] <suigeneris> akazawa, from X? no
[17:07] <Picassotamus> epaphus: what MidnighToker said... plus you would need to check that WMP is supported by wine checking their app db first
[17:07] <akazawa> suigeneris: any error
[17:07] <suigeneris> no
[17:07] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: I was having a hell of a time with 8.10 on my netbook. Wireless wasn't much of a problem, but audio didn't work at all. An update to Jaunty alpha fixed everything.
[17:07] <UbuntuCop> I just don't to go through all the hassle of installing it in my laptop if wireless connection will suck. Heimark
[17:07] <MidnighToker> Heimark: is it intel HDA audio?
[17:07] <epaphus> MidnighToker, iinstalled the codecs... and use totem but a .wmv video still wont play
[17:07] <Heimark> yes it is
[17:07] <MidnighToker> epaphus: strange :S
[17:07] <Heimark> it is working now
[17:07] <MidnighToker> Heimark: ah right, nicely
[17:08] <EvilAIM> epaphus, try VLC
[17:08] <EvilAIM> sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:08] <VoodooDance> Greetings..
[17:08] <VoodooDance> Does anyone know how to mount a boot partition on ubuntu?  It's not defined in my fstab...
[17:08] <EvilKnight>  :)
[17:08] <epaphus> EvilAIM, is that a codec?
[17:08] <Heimark> now how do I go about getting my Canon MP970 to work?
[17:09] <Heimark> trade someone for an HP?
[17:09] <EvilAIM> heimark: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612164
[17:09] <grawity> LjL: O.o Bot broken?
[17:09] <amigo_rich> VoodooDance: mount -t <type> /dev/<device> /boot
[17:10] <LjL> grawity: just a bit, old bug
[17:10] <the10nitro> !help
[17:10] <VoodooDance> amigo_rich: ty
[17:10] <amigo_rich> VoodooDance: You can probably leave the type out though.
[17:10] <puttblug> Question about /etc/network/intefaces ... i've got an alias IP configured for eth0; last line of 'interfaces' has: auto eth0 eth0:1 .... upon system boot, it hangs on 'configuring network interfaces' for about a bloody year before finally continuing with boot process.
[17:10] <VoodooDance> amigo_rich: cool
[17:10] <swiftarrow> Hi I have a problem.  I'm using xubuntu 64, and recently it has started acting up on boot.  During the boot, it goes to text mode, scrolls a bunch of messages quite fast, and then the system starts beeping, continuously, just as something about initrd comes up in the messages.  Then It starts the normal boot messages (something ..... [OK]), with the beep continuing.  Finally, the beep switches from very loud to very quiet (but still on) and it goes int
[17:11] <puttblug> Once I get to a command line, ifconfig indicates that eth0 & eth0:1 are indeed active.  ... anyone have insight about this interminable hang-up?
[17:11] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you got cut off at "and it goes int"
[17:11] <UbuntuCop> with all this trouble with Chinese and Russians Hackers I definitively want to dish Windows once and for all. in fact They are tracing Conficker back to Russia
[17:11] <swiftarrow> ok.. and it goes into graphical mode.  Sometimes it goes into the proper gdm login screen, but the last few times it has just turned up a screen with a seemingly random pink cloud like structure on the screen, and stops.  Nothing works.  Any Ideas?
[17:11] <swiftarrow> [9:41pm] puttblug: Once I get to a command line, ifconfig indicates that eth0 & eth0:1 are indeed active.  ... anyone have insight about this interminable hang-up?
[17:12] <swiftarrow> eh? i didnt say that.
[17:12] <swiftarrow> All the way up to Any Ideas is mine.
[17:12] <amigo_rich> puttblug: Is there anything pertinent in /var/log/messages?
[17:13] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: I 'spect you're going to have to dig up some error messages, unless someone here has a case of the crystal balls. :)
[17:13] <puttblug> amigo_rich: Not that I can see.
[17:13] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, any idea how I can do that?
[17:13] <Heimark> EvilAIM: I've seen that before. I don't really want to have to buy turbo print though.
[17:14] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: wee-ell, /var/log/messages is a good place to start spelunking
[17:14] <swiftarrow> Rytmis: ok, I will try. Thanks.
[17:14] <UbuntuCop> Heimark My experience is that Canon Has given more trouble driverwise than any other brand I still can not make my Combo printer work specially that scanner.
[17:15]  * puttblug thinks something is up w/resolv.conf ... odd.
[17:15] <puttblug> I thought the dns-nameservers section of an eth* block in /etc/network/interfaces was responsible for setting /etc/resolv.conf ... am I mistaken?
[17:15] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: yeah, I think I'll probably just switch it out for my parents cheaper HP, I'm sure it will work just fine with XP for them.
[17:16] <suigeneris> akazawa, any help for me?
[17:16] <UbuntuCop> I was fired on April fool's day I was expecting To receive a call saying it was all a joke, nothing so far  T_T
[17:17] <epaphus> EvilAIM, is that a codec?
[17:17] <amigo_rich> puttblug: Are you using DHCP or is the connection static?
[17:18] <xs67634> i love ubuntu!
[17:18] <Heimark> we all do
[17:18] <epaphus> EvilAIM, the movie plays but fuzzy
[17:18] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: This channel is for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatter
[17:18] <epaphus> and no sound
[17:18] <xs67634> the best OS the world
[17:18] <Tiefenrausch> maybe it is
[17:18] <UbuntuCop> I need some moral support
[17:18] <ikonia> xs67634: ok - if you could keep this channel to support questions only, that would be great
[17:19] <Tiefenrausch> but they really should integrate a support system which is connected with their website
[17:19] <Tiefenrausch> that would be really nice
[17:23] <zamba> i want to get rdiff-backup package from a newer version of ubuntu.. how can i do this?
[17:23] <xs67634> i love ubuntu!!
[17:23] <zamba> i'm currently running ubuntu dapper
[17:23] <oCean_> !away > Mud|shower
[17:23] <Jostein> I'll find out
[17:23] <xs67634> the best OS of the world
 i love ubuntu!!// didn't you say that already ?
[17:24] <oCean_> xs67634: as pointed out before: this channel is for support issues only. Stay on topic.
[17:24] <UbuntuCop> I's pretty cool but not the best
[17:24] <prince_jammys> I is pretty cool myself
[17:24] <xs67634> no,it is the best
[17:24] <xs67634> it is true
[17:25] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: xs67634  stop this discussion please. You can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <xs67634> in the magazine pcs ...you read any..
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: please stop
[17:26] <UbuntuCop> ok Let's talk about some issues so you can fulfill the reason of your existence, Canon mx310 , Scanner does not work. Any solutions oCean_ ?
[17:26] <xs67634> what?
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: it's been made clear to you this channel is for support discussion ony
[17:26] <xs67634> it's true come on
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: no - stop now, this will be your final warning
[17:26] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: what have you done to set it up, and where is it failing ?
[17:27] <oCean_> !work | UbuntuCop
[17:27] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: besides that, you can address the channel, not just me
[17:28] <UbuntuCop> I have a multifunctions printer and the scanner it is simply no recognized
[17:28] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: not recognised where, what have you done to set it up/ use it ?
[17:28] <xs67634> UbuntuCop ???
[17:28] <bpr> I'm using 8.10 on a thinkpad t61.  I've just recently pulled updates for my nvidia drivers and xserver, and now my machine will not properly resume from suspend.  I get a black screen.  Is anyone familiar with this issue and perhaps a fix?
[17:29] <ikonia> bpr: which nvidia updates, from where ?
[17:29] <bpr> through the restricted drivers manager
[17:29] <ikonia> bpr: and it won't wake from suspend at all ?
[17:29] <njk123> hi all
[17:29] <Excell> I have a problem: I (in sessions) tried to get fire starter to load on boot...i was not aware it was pass word only start...I deleted it from sessions...(now) the gui still wants to start asking for permissions...how do I stop this?
[17:29] <xs67634> UbuntuCop is a ignorant
[17:30] <UbuntuCop> Well what would be the proper way to set it up. since there is an app in ubuntu use to scan documents but it does not recognize my device, like it does not exist
[17:30] <grawity> \o/
[17:30] <bpr> ikonia: i get a black screen.  It looks like it might be awake though.  Sorry for the poor answer there
[17:30] <spanther> ikonia, lol you ask weird questions sometimes xD
[17:30] <ikonia> bpr: no no, thats fine
[17:30] <ikonia> spanther: what weird question ?
[17:30] <mate1> hi
[17:30] <njk123> my laptop takes years to start, I m using intrepid and it shows activating swap file for a long time
[17:30] <veritos> The Ubuntu server edition just installs ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard (as well as kernel, language pack, and other stuff)?
[17:30] <njk123> plz help
 UbuntuCop is a ignorant// yes I am an ignorant
[17:30] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: please ignore it - he's gone
[17:30] <spanther> ikonia, he said it doesnt come out again and the next time you asked for the exactly same he answered before ^^
[17:31] <mate1> ill just go ahead and ask the question
[17:31] <ikonia> spanther: re-read what I asked and his response
[17:31] <spanther> i do :)
[17:31] <ikonia> bpr: so it looks like it's actaully awake, but the screen is not alive
[17:31] <shawn_> when does jaunty officially come out?
[17:31] <mate1> how can i see a pc from my ubuntu??
[17:31] <shawn_> the 10th?
[17:31] <Minor723> Anyone help me with my ubuntu crashing? I installed the nvidia 177 drivers and now my ubuntu wont startup
[17:31] <oCean_> mate1: if you have network activated, you can 'reach' other computers
[17:31] <bpr> ikonia: yes.  though i haven't tried sshing in from remote
[17:31] <bpr> ikonia: so i can't be sure
[17:32] <mate1> how do i do that?
[17:32] <ikonia> bpr: that would be a helpful test so we can look at your logs while it's in the unknown state
[17:32] <mate1> its a computer with windows..
[17:32] <Excell> Minor723: .. recovery mode?
[17:32] <UbuntuCop> With ubuntu 8.10 was also havin a probling with the header of every windows , it did vanish
[17:32] <Rytmis> mate1: what do you mean by "see a pc"?
[17:32] <bpr> ikonia: ok.  I can't do that right now though :-/
[17:32] <UbuntuCop> *problem
[17:32] <shawn_> matel: if it has file sharing enabled you should be able to just search for it
[17:32] <mate1> mean reach a computer
[17:32] <ikonia> bruenig: understood
[17:32] <ikonia> bruenig: oops, sorry
[17:32] <ikonia> bpr: understood
[17:32] <Rytmis> mate1: you and I probably have wildly different definitions for "reach"
[17:32] <oCean_> mate1: Do you know the name or ip-address the windows machine uses? Then (for starters) you can "ping" that computer.
[17:33] <CrIp> how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:33] <mate1> aha
[17:33] <CrIp> cos they have shat emselves
[17:33] <shawn_> matel: if you're using gnome, you can just go to "Places"-->"Network". assuming you have sharing enabled on the windows machine
[17:33] <Rytmis> oCean_: I 'spect he means SMB shares. :-)
[17:33] <Minor723> Excell I have tried all the options inrecovery mode none of them work. I can get to the login screen with regurlar mode. It just says kinit: No Resume image
[17:33] <CrIp> i cant change visual effects
[17:33] <amigo_rich> njk123: what does cat /proc/swaps show?
[17:33] <asdasd> hi, how can I set up a wireless network
[17:33] <oCean_> Rytmis: ah, that is very well possible
[17:33] <mate1> i want to acces a computer thats on my network to get some files from it
[17:33] <shawn_> matel: do you have file sharing enabled on the windows machine?
[17:33] <mate1> the computer i want to acces has windows
[17:34] <mate1> yes
[17:34] <spanther> asdasd, is your wireless network an intel WiFi ? :)
[17:34] <CrIp> how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:34] <Excell> Minor723:  did you try to re-do X in recovery mode?
[17:34] <asdasd> I have no clue, how can I find it out?
[17:34] <njk123> hello does anyone have the answer to my question?
[17:34] <shawn_> matel: do you have the files you're trying to get listed as available to share? you have to do this physically on the windows machine
[17:34] <ikonia> bpr: do you still have the old kernel installed (I believe there was a kernel update with the nvidia package)
[17:34] <spanther> asdasd, your manual :)
[17:34] <mate1> yes
[17:34] <Minor723> Yes, I will try again, but its doing the same thing. Is there a command I can run to redo x? I dont think thats whats wrong though because I restored xorg.conf from a backup i made and its still not working
[17:34] <bpr> ikonia: let me check
[17:35] <asdasd> I'd guess it is
[17:35] <shawn_> matel: are you using standard ubuntu, i.e. gnome?
[17:35] <CrIp> . how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:35] <mate1> yes
[17:35] <eterna1> woot woot 29 mins left of   update.
[17:35] <asdasd> I'm assuming it is an Intel WiFi
[17:35] <shawn_> matel: if so, just go to "Places" then click on "Network" and you should be able to see your computer there
[17:35] <mate1> ok
[17:35] <mate1> ill try that
[17:36] <mate1> and let you know..
[17:36] <bradly> Is there to increase the scroll length of my terminal?
[17:36] <bpr> ikonia: yes i have many kernels haha.  2.6.27-14-generic is the newest.  I do have 2.6.27-13-generic and more available
[17:36] <spanther> asdasd, if so then just click the network icon on the upper left side and you see some wireless networks
[17:37] <piglit> hello there what was the command (in command line) to check if your hard disk is working in the right order?
[17:37] <shawn_> piglit: you'll have to install smartmontools
[17:37] <shawn_> piglit: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[17:37] <saerg> CrIp: did you install them with apt or synaptic?
[17:38] <Minor723> I just did xfix and rebooted, same problem. How can I find out why ubuntu is not booting
[17:38] <Machtin> piglit: maybe a "sudo fdisk -l" already gives you what you want
[17:38] <shawn_> piglit: then use the command sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdX where X is the drive you want
[17:38] <CrIp> not sure
[17:38] <piglit> oke thank i'll try that!!! :-))
[17:38] <Rytmis> saerg: is there a difference?
[17:38] <CrIp> somethng happened on one of the updates
[17:39] <rox>         
[17:39] <Rytmis> saerg: or were you just going for the "dis you use a package manager" angle? :)
[17:39] <UbuntuCop> noone there
[17:39] <CrIp> saerg,
[17:39] <ikonia> bpr: I think you have the proposed repo enabled
[17:39] <ikonia> bpr: that could well be the problem, those packages are not stable
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: ah. let me see
[17:39] <saerg> Rytmis: he might have used a binary driver with some installer
[17:39] <shawn_> piglit: if you have a SATA drive it'll be /dev/sdX if its an IDE it'll be /dev/hdX
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: yes i do
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: is there a way to gracefully downgrade?
[17:40] <Minor723> Excell, are you still here. I am still having problems with this new kernel / nvidia driver
[17:40] <ikonia> bpr: ok, I suspect that will cause you pain, disable it, and use the 2.6.27-11 kernel and see how you get on
[17:40] <sequethin> is there an alternative server i can tell update manager to use? it's crawling so slowly right now :(
[17:40] <ikonia> bpr: the next round of updates will tidy up for you
[17:40] <shawn_> piglit: an easy way to find out is to type "df -h" and see which is mounted on /
[17:40] <bpr> ikonia: ok thanks
[17:41]  * bruenig shakes fist at ikonia 
[17:41] <saerg> CrIp: you can install a specific version of a package with: sudo apt-get install packe-name=version-number
[17:41] <bpr> ikonia: should i disable backports as well?
[17:41] <mate1> shawn_: i can see the network, but i still can see the files i want
[17:41] <CrIp> how do i find out what bloody driver i need saerg
[17:41] <CrIp> and check settings ?
[17:42] <CrIp> ive just hit re download and re-install on all vid drivers
[17:42] <CrIp> ill see if that werks
[17:42] <CrIp> ill be back
[17:42] <CrIp> maybe :)
[17:42] <asdasd> I'm having problems with installing wireless networks. Is there a way to configure my already existing wireless chip?
[17:43] <zamba> i want to install a package on ubuntu dapper from a newer ubuntu version.. how can i do this?
[17:43] <sequethin> asdasd: if your card is supported it's not so hard
[17:43] <asdasd> I'm not sure if it is
[17:43] <asdasd> How do I configure it if it is supported?
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: I'm not sure that can be done
[17:44] <zamba> shawn_: ok?
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: the easiest thing to do is search getdeb or build it from source
[17:44] <zamba> shawn_: isn't that what's called backporting?
[17:44] <saerg> CrIp: how do you know that your video driver is faulty?
[17:44] <CrIp> cos it was werking
[17:44] <CrIp> now im getting sketchy lines on bootup
[17:44] <CrIp> and vide playback is slow
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: I mean, its potentially possible but you'll have to find the actual deb file and make sure you can meet all the requirements
[17:44] <CrIp> saerg,
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: the easiest method would be to simply compile it from source
[17:45] <bpr> ikonia: thanks for your help.
[17:45] <CrIp> saerg,  ?
[17:45] <CrIp> ill try re-booting with these updated drivers
[17:45] <CrIp> if not i spose i can format
[17:45] <saerg> CrIp: xorg.log shows what driver is used
[17:46] <sequethin> asdasd: iwconfig
[17:46] <wez_> list
[17:46] <sequethin> asdasd: iwconfig from the terminal is how i set mine up initially
[17:46] <shawn_> asdasd: ifconfig is easier
[17:46] <Minor723> Is there a way to remove the nvidia drivers from command line
[17:47] <shawn_> Minor723: just boot into xsafe-terminal or use the last successful login script
[17:47] <Soyo> how do you uninstall xwindows? sudo apt-get autoremove something I imagine
[17:48] <asdasd> I just found out what my wireless chip is
[17:48] <asdasd> So, could someone please explain step by step how do I configure it?
[17:48] <manojo> sudo apt-get uninstall should be okay
[17:48] <shawn_> Soyo: if you're not sure what the package is, do a sudo apt-cache search PACKAGENAME
[17:48] <Soyo> shawn_ thanks!
[17:49] <shawn_> asdasd: do a "lspci | grep -i wireless"
[17:49] <shawn_> asdasd: and paste the output here
[17:49] <asdasd> Alright
[17:49] <marie_blubb> I installed samba, now I dont know how to find the other computers. where can I enter the Ip of the other pc?
[17:49] <asdasd> I'll do that
[17:49] <asdasd> No output actually
[17:49] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: ok
[17:49] <asdasd> lspci | grep -i wireless
[17:49] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: places > computer
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: hmm no output... is the wireless card you're using set up with a PCI or USB port?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: no try something else first. places > network
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: you could also try the same thing with lsusb
[17:50] <asdasd> It should be internal
[17:50] <asdasd> I have a laptop
[17:50] <sequethin> internal doesn't mean it's not using usb
[17:50] <asdasd> Hmm
[17:50] <asdasd> ALright
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: I have a laptop and it shows up as lspci, it could still be using usb internally
[17:50] <asdasd> so what do I type?
[17:50] <shawn_> lsusb | grep -i wireless
[17:50] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: and then windows network, you can get on it?
[17:51] <asdasd> No output again
[17:51] <asdasd> =X
[17:51] <asdasd> Does this mean I'm fucked?
[17:51] <shawn_> hmm
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !language |  asdasd
[17:51] <shawn_> it just means its not recognized by the system bus
[17:51] <asdasd> Oh, sorry
[17:51] <shawn_> it might just not include the word "wireless" in the name
[17:51] <asdasd> I'll keep that in mind
[17:51] <sequethin> not looking good, but there may be hope
[17:51] <sebsebseb> asdasd: saying screwed would have been better
[17:51] <shawn_> do you know what kind of computer you have?
[17:51] <asdasd> Sorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy
[17:52] <sequethin> shawn_: would it show up in dmesg? the wireless i mean
[17:52] <sebsebseb> asdasd: personally I don't care that much, but the ops do
[17:52] <nperry> asdasd, Pastebing lspci
[17:52] <shawn_> sequethin: potentially at the start of dmesg
[17:52] <shawn_> sequethin: when initializing the system bus
[17:52] <nperry> I mean pastebin
[17:52] <sequethin> shawn_: i would suggest it to asdasd but wasn't sure it would show up there
[17:53] <sequethin> i had a card that needed some additional firmware once
[17:53] <asdasd> nperry: http://pastebin.com/m72de7b8c
[17:53] <sequethin> but even that showed up in lspci
[17:53] <shawn_> sequethin: well dmesg typically tells it what driver to load, for instance mine outputs: [   26.060155] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found
[17:53] <shawn_> [   26.516632] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PLR, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
[17:54] <sequethin> shawn_: so it might show up and some unknown device in dmesg output
[17:54] <shawn_> sequethin: possibly
[17:54] <leminhvuong1512> hi hi hi!!!
[17:54] <shawn_> aha!
[17:54] <Lint> where can I get "libltdl3"?
[17:54] <shawn_> asdasd: you have a broadcom
[17:54] <asdasd> I found that one out
[17:54] <shawn_> asdasd: thanks for the pastebin btw
[17:54] <shawn_> #
[17:54] <shawn_> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:55] <shawn_> asdasd: have you tried using the restricted hardware tool? that's what I used an it works fine
[17:55] <asdasd> I'll try
[17:55] <marie_blubb> sebsebseb yes, thanks, i found it, also something similar if I go into Konqueror or also in Samba itself. but where do I tell samba where to find the other PCs (they all linked with one router)
[17:56] <Lint> what is "libltdl3" and where I can get this one?
[17:56] <nperry> asdasd,  Youve got #
[17:56] <nperry> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:56] <asdasd> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[17:56] <Rytmis> You don't really tell Samba where to find things. The computers sort of announce themselves to each other on the network, far as I know, anyway.
[17:56] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: not sure, but in the location bar you can try like  smb://internal ip address
[17:56] <shawn_> asdasd: did you just recently install the system and is the system hooked up to a wired connection?
[17:56] <asdasd> I did just recently install the system
[17:56] <nperry> asdasd,  Are you on the laptop at the min?
[17:56] <asdasd> And the system _is_ hooked up to a wired connection
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512>    
[17:57] <Rytmis> One thing that affects smb access is the workgroup/domain name -- it should match the one in use on the Windows machines.
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> hello
[17:57] <asdasd> And yeah, I'm on the laptop right now
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> hello
[17:57] <shawn_> asdasd: sometimes it'll take a restart or two for everything to show up (which mine did with my ATI driver)
[17:57] <FloodBot1> leminhvuong1512: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <shawn_> asdasd: try doing a "sudo aptitude update"
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> exit
[17:57] <shawn_> and then rechecking
[17:57] <sebsebseb> leminhvuong1512: hi
[17:57] <sebsebseb> leminhvuong1512: no don't exit, what do you want help with
[17:57] <uber> anyone know how to fix choppy video?
[17:58] <nperry> asdasd, Got the near enough same card and there is ATA WIRELESSS in hardware drivers
[17:58] <nperry> Try sudo apt-get update
[17:58] <nperry> then look again
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: from what I'm seeing, I'm betting you have an HP or dell computer
[17:58] <asdasd> I have an Acer actually
[17:58] <tuxforce> goodevening to all
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: ah, just a really similar setup to my HP
[17:58] <tuxforce> :)
[17:58] <asdasd> Alright
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: LOTS of the same hardward
[17:59] <nperry> and my Dell :P
[17:59] <shawn_> hardware*
[17:59] <asdasd> right now upgrading
[17:59] <tuxforce> i have a old pentium 3 533 Mhz width 32 mb di ram.. i can installa ubuntu ?
[17:59] <leminhvuong1512> what about are you talking?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: so yeah do a sudo aptitude update, and the sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:59] <tuxforce> it is a very old pc
[17:59] <asdasd> How does it differ from sudo apt-get upgrade?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: it might tell you to restart, if it does, you should listen and then come back
[17:59] <asdasd> or does it?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: apt-get is technically deprecated, but far more common
[18:00] <asdasd> Will it do the job?
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: aptitude has better system checking
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: yeah, they have the same overall goal
[18:00] <asdasd> awesome
[18:00] <asdasd> 8min 30sec left
[18:00] <asdasd> =/
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: aptitude also has a better CLI (if you just type sudo aptitude, there's a DOS like GUI)
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: oh wow, you must have like literally just installed
[18:00] <asdasd> I HAVE
[18:01] <asdasd> I literally
[18:01] <asdasd> installed it like 20 minutes ago
[18:01] <jardi> Hi all
[18:01] <Picassotamus> !enter
[18:01] <shawn_> asdasd: shoulda waited like 8 days, jaunty jackalope is coming out then
[18:01] <shawn_> asdasd: jaunty has ext4 support and such
[18:01] <Machtin> 8 days? more like 21, or not?
[18:01] <Rytmis> shawn_: ITYM Ubuntu 9.04 ;)
[18:01] <asdasd> I'll just upgrade it when it comes out
[18:02] <_VIM_> yep more like 21 days
[18:02] <mate1> i have a question!
[18:02] <shawn_> asdasd: yeah, I typically do clean installs purely because its overall easier
[18:02] <shawn_> rytmis: itym?
[18:02] <Rytmis> shawn_: I Think You Mean
[18:02] <jardi> I'm trying to build GnomeShell, but I have this message : "configure: error: Python headers not found". Any idea what package I need to install ?
[18:02] <Ienorand> mate1: ask the question, do not ask to ask the question...
[18:02] <shawn_> rytmis: 9.04 is jaunty jackalope
[18:02] <mate1> if i have lets say ubuntu 8.0, does it upgrade automatically to 9.0??
[18:02]  * sebsebseb will clean  install  and do Ext4  when  9.04 is out and the reviews are good enough for Ext4.  in the mean time this beta on  Ext3
[18:03] <Jeruvy> !upgrade | mate1
[18:03] <sequethin> mate1: you'll get a message saying "hey theres a new distro out"
[18:03] <shawn_> matel: yes, upgrade tool will give you the option to do a distribution upgrade
[18:03] <sebsebseb> mate1: no and for Ext4 the new file system, you would have to clean install.  or do something for limited functionality in Ext3
[18:03] <nperry> sebsebseb,
[18:03] <Rytmis> shawn_: I was trying to humorously refer to the fact that jaunty isn't the official name. :)
[18:03] <saerg> jardi: http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2008/installing-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[18:03] <joa_> Can someone explain how I could get X11 to work with both ATI and Nvidia cards? E.g. on one laptop I have an ATI and on another I have an Nvidia -- but X is of course always screwed..
[18:03] <sebsebseb> nperry: what?
[18:03] <nperry> Woops pressed enter to early, my bad, Ive read so many problems with ext4 just havent had any myself
[18:03] <joa_> Once I switch between the laptops
[18:03] <Ienorand> mate1: depending on your settings, it will inform you when a new release is available and allow you to update yes.
[18:03] <UbuntuCop>  what is a good size for the swap partition. 250 Gb HD?
[18:03] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can load ext3 as ext4, you just lose a lot of the new features
[18:03] <jardi> thanks saerg
[18:03] <sebsebseb> shawn_: I know
[18:03] <mate1> so it doesent upgrade?
[18:03] <shawn_> rytmis: isn't it?
[18:04] <mate1> because some said yes others said no
[18:04] <shawn_> matel: it'll upgrade your distribution, but not your filesystem
[18:04] <Rytmis> shawn_: Nah, the official name is always Ubuntu Y.MM
[18:04] <sebsebseb> mate1: you have to tell it to upgrade, but you won't get Ext4 after a Ext3 upgrade
[18:04] <sequethin> UbuntuCop: if you have enough ram your swap doesn't need to be so big, more of an emergency "omg i ran out of ram" thing, imho
[18:04] <shawn_> rytmis: well yeah, but they all have codenames and "jaunty" is 9.04
[18:04] <mate1> aha
[18:04] <Rytmis> shawn_: I know, I know. Hence the "humorously".
[18:05] <shawn_> rytmis: haha, ok
[18:05] <Ienorand> UbuntuCop: If you want hibernation, about the size of your total RAM.
[18:05] <UbuntuCop> 4 GB
[18:05] <sequethin> Ienorand: good point, i forget about hibernation
[18:05] <amgarching> cannot find the "frontline" app in Ubuntu repositories. This was a simple interface to "autotrace" bitmap-to-vector conversion tool. Any idea?
[18:05] <shawn_> ubuntucop: my swap is only about half of my total ram, but you can also look into suspend2ram instead of using hibernate
[18:05] <jelly-bean> i want to listen to shoutcast internet radio in linux (ubuntu). can anyone recommend any good clients? preferably with built-in shoutcast radio directory browsers like WinAMP has.
[18:05] <sebsebseb> nperry: yeah I would have done the beta  on Ext4 maybe,  if I didn't have so much data to  deal with on my seprate home partition.  yep in my case all as Ext4 or nothing.   blah de blah anyway off topic here
[18:06] <Rytmis> joa_: I'm inclined to think that when you switch from one laptop to another, you also switch from one ubuntu install to another, and hence the X configurations are independent of each other?
[18:06] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you could always recompile with ext4-trunk support and modify it now
[18:06] <Lint> I cannot install package due to inresolved dependencies, what can I do?
[18:06] <joa_> Actually, is there any way to install both drivers at all?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> shawn_: not sure what you mean
[18:06] <jardi> saerg: I had some package to add, but the result is the same. By the way, I'm on jaunty, not intrepid
[18:06] <Ienorand> UbuntuCop: So I guess something like  4.2GB would work there...
[18:06] <shawn_> Lint: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <joa_> Rytmis: No, I have it on an external hard drive
[18:06] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can map your ext3 to ext4 if you want now
[18:07] <Rytmis> joa_: that's just *weird* :)
[18:07] <Lint> sudo apt-get update what?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> shawn_: Ext3 can't be properly changed to Ext4
[18:07] <shawn_> Lint: that's it, sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: well it sort of can, that's why you need the dev ext4 kernel compile
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: it kidn of upmaps current ext3 partitions
[18:07] <shawn_> kind*
[18:07] <UbuntuCop> Does Acronis  work to back up a partition In EXT3 ?
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can get more of the new features, but still not all of them
[18:08] <joa_> Well a small hard drive is more leightweight than a laptop, so I carry the harddisk arround. But I home I have an ATI card and at work Nvidia ... That's my problem
[18:08] <mate1> whats ext4 and ext3? and whats does it mean that i wont get an ext 4 if i upgrade??
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: well I have issues in my beta, that I don't think are the betas. fault, but this was an upgrade from 8.10 to  9.04 alpha6, to the beta.  and we are off topic here
[18:08] <macman_> how can i make a bootable .img file out of a folder in linux / ubuntu ?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: so yeah I may as well re install
[18:08] <nperry> asdasd, Any luck?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: once final is out of 9.04 and the Ext4 reviews are good
[18:08] <Rytmis> joa_: Yeah, I get that, but still I'd just keep /home on the portable drive and install everything else per-machine. :)
[18:08] <shawn_> sebsebseb: oh yeah, that's what I recommend too, its what I'm gonna do, I just thought you were saying you had too much data to move around
[18:08] <Rotlaus> I just installed ubuntu-minimal with awesome as Windowmanager. Web, Chat, Flash and Mail is working as excepted, but what packages do i need to install to get sound working?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> shawn_: yep  I got data to go through, delete stuff, move stuff about,   would be easier if I had my own external, but no not yet
[18:09] <shawn_> sebsebseb: I'm running out of room with two 500 GB externals, a 30 GB external, and a 100 GB internal
[18:09] <shawn_> sebsebseb: =/
[18:09] <saerg> jardi: i don't run jaunty, sorry. maybe ask in #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org
[18:09] <sebsebseb> shawn_: most of my data is downloads anyway, so not exactly important
[18:10] <shawn_> sebsebseb: well I'm currently in the process of backing up all my wii games (hooray for the USB backup loader)
[18:10] <shawn_> sebsebseb: but that's taking up a good 100 GB itself
[18:10] <sebsebseb> shawn_: we are off go pm?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> we are off topic
[18:12] <ezzieyguywuf> my xorg is consuming 95% of one of my cores. I'm running 8.10 with an ATI V5200. I've tried both the open source and the proprietery drivers and the problem persists. any help?
[18:12] <UbuntuCop> anybody knows what wubi.exe is on ubuntu 9.04 iso ?
[18:13] <graingert> UbuntuCop-> it is wubi
[18:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb: do I have to make folder for other distro in the /home?
[18:13] <graingert> !wubi | UbuntuCop
[18:13] <LjL> !jaunty > UbuntuCop    (UbuntuCop, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb: an then burn the iso...
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok your here again,  chat to me on  Pidgin or  IRC pm.   what your doing now is off topic  here
[18:14] <Nasra> off-topic
[18:14] <Nasra> ?
[18:15] <UbuntuCop> Is there a way to modify Grub so the primary os to boot is Windows longhorn?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yes running other distros in vm's is not exactly  on topic here.  in this situation
[18:15] <Doonz> Hey guys, Ok heres what i have. I have a headless server running 8.10 i want to be able to remote desktop into it. I only have ssh access to the box. Can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to follow
[18:15] <shawn_> Doonz: man ssh?
[18:15] <Doonz> no
[18:16] <Doonz> want to install a remote desktop sever so i can from my windows desktop use vncviewer and utilize the ubuntu desktop
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, yes
[18:16] <UbuntuCop>  how?
[18:16] <mafsi> Doonz: teamviewer in wine?
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, edit menu.lst present in /boot/grub/
[18:17] <Doonz> ok the problem is i dont have physical access to the pc so no keyboard or monitor
[18:17] <Doonz> i have to install everything through ssh
[18:17] <Jeruvy> Doonz: just use a vnc client and use it.  If your going from linux to windows you may want to use rdp instead of vnc.
[18:17] <mitc0185> Is there a comprehensive document on how to get pulseaudio working correctly in hardy? I was having intermittent sound issues, so I decided to apply a fix from ubuntuforums which seemed authoritative, now I have no sound at all. Pulseaudio sucks.
 UbuntuCop, edit menu.lst present in /boot/grub/ do you work that from the terminal?
[18:18] <UbuntuCop> nautilus maybe?
[18:18] <Doonz> Jeruvy: wich is all good except like i posted i dont have physical access to the box. i need to set up all this through ssh
[18:18] <grout> I have to say the jaunty beta is amazing
[18:18] <saerg> mitc0185: what sound hardware do you have?
[18:18] <marie_blubb> i'd like to use samba. how can I see another PC? in the konquerer just the server finds itself and at another pc it doesnt find the server?
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, press alt+f2 and then type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:19] <clearscreen> Is there a way to re-run grub's autodetection of operating systems and kernels and write it to menu.lst? Basically whatever happens at ubuntu install, but after the install has been done
[18:19] <Lint> how can I delete a package? dpkg -r --force-all doesn;t work
[18:19] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: try typing this in konq
[18:19] <Ropechoborra> Lint, apt-get remove ?
[18:19] <mitc0185> saerg: one sec
[18:19] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: smb://internal ip address
[18:19] <clearscreen> Lint: if you've installed it through apt: sudo apt-get remove (package)
[18:19] <saerg> clearscreen: ubuntu's installer does that...
[18:20] <Lint> apt call dpkg
[18:20] <Lint> it;s of no help
[18:20] <Doonz> Hey guys i have a headless 8.10 server. WHat im trying to do is install a desktop on it so i can vnc from my xp box to that boxes desktop. can anyone point me to a guide that i can follow
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> Lint, its advised to use sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[18:20] <mitc0185> saerg: Intel ALC883 Analog
[18:20] <clearscreen> saerg: no shit, I was asking how to do it AFTER installation
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | Doonz
[18:20] <Lint> apt-get remove iscan
[18:20] <mitc0185> saerg: Intel ALC883 Digital
[18:21] <Nasra> !iso
[18:21] <Doonz> !explaining better
[18:21] <kharloss> hi there. i have this MB :   http://forums.tweaktown.com/f19/intel-core-2-quad-q8200-biostar-tp45-hp-oc-review-27213/     but i can`t make it start. i have JATXPWR1 connector, but my PSU doesn`t have this connector. what can i do ?
[18:21] <Lint> so apt-get calls dpkg which reports error, so how can I remove a package?
[18:22] <Rytmis> Lint: well... you could try fixing the error dpkg is choking on?
[18:22] <LosFrijoles1> can anyone help with a gpg problem? none of the solutions on the forums have worked. http://pastebin.com/m6d17bb5d
[18:22] <saerg> mitc0185: it's not the known-broken list of devices at least
[18:22] <arvind_khadri> Lint, what error?
[18:22] <mitc0185> saerg: It was working 90% of the time. I was having periodic flash and skype issues, but otherwise it was fine
[18:23] <Zuko> alguem fala brasileiro ae
[18:23] <clearscreen> !br | Zuko
[18:23] <Lint> /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name>.postrm: 50: Bad substitution
[18:23] <mitc0185> I left Skype on overnight and this morning no sound, so I said "I'm going to fix this"
[18:23] <jakeriver> anyone using easypeasy version of ubuntu?
[18:23] <Ienorand> I'm using an alias "get" for "sudo apt-get install", but how do I get tab-completion to work?
[18:23] <mitc0185> anyway the guide I followed (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578) did not fix it for me
[18:23] <mitc0185> now I have no sound at all
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> Lint, in place of package name you need to put the package's name, in this case its iscan
[18:23] <marie_blubb> sebsebseb smb://10.10.10.1 (the router) it says in the konquerer not such protocol supported and in the bash something similar
[18:24] <mitc0185> pulseaudio seems to be working, when I look at the volume meter
[18:24] <saerg> mitc0185: flash 9.x's fault. Try 10.x or sfwdec. dunno about skype
[18:24] <mitc0185> but it's not getting sound out the device
[18:24] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, i've been able to boot, luckly, but it's not behaving right.
[18:24] <mitc0185> saerg: it's not working with rhythmbox or anything
[18:24] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: ok it's been awhile since I did anything with Samba
[18:24] <sebsebseb> !samba
[18:24] <swiftarrow> how can I give you the logs?
[18:25] <mitc0185> and I have Flash 10.0 r22 installed
[18:25] <Lint> apparently I do it, if dpkg finds post-remove script. Some constructive propositions, please
[18:25] <LosFrijoles1> anyone know how to fix apt signing problems with intrepid? http://pastebin.com/m6d17bb5d
[18:25] <mitc0185> I'm going to go bug them in #pulseaudio
[18:25] <saerg> mitc0185: did you restart since then? something might block the sound. flash 9.x did that
[18:25] <mrwes> er
[18:26] <mitc0185> saerg: I have done a couple of restarts -- no luck
[18:26] <saerg> mitc0185: they can't do much about closed source apps like skype and flash
[18:26] <hbekel> Ienorand: you have to find the function that does the completion (/etc/bash_completion.d) and use it for "get" as well (using the complete builtin)
[18:26] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: that's not much to go on, I'm afraid.
[18:27] <mitc0185> saerg: understood, but I'm sure that once I have basic sound working then flash and skype will work too
[18:27] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, I can get you the logs, if you know what to do with them!  they're worse than greek to me.
[18:27] <Mehdi> oh awesome! I didn't know that chan existed
[18:27] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, more clues: the beeping starts BEFORE initrd is read, about half a second before
[18:27] <hbekel> Ienorand: there's probably a file called apt or apt-get in there, complete is usually called at the bottom of those scripts
[18:28] <yowshi> i need help dualbooting windows
[18:28] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, could it be a problem with the kernel or kernel modules?  if so, how to reinstall them?
[18:28] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: weirdness. Stick the logs in a pastebin, mayhaps they'll reveal something.
[18:28] <Rytmis> !paste
[18:28] <saerg> mitc0185: do eg. headphones work?
[18:28] <Lint> rewrote the damned script to return 0 always
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> !dualboot | yowshi
[18:29] <arvind_khadri> Lint, you shouldnt have done that
[18:29] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/142954/
[18:30] <allquixotic> Can anyone recommend a DDS (DirectDraw Surface) editor that runs on Ubuntu? These are often used as textures in games, I believe they are similar to Targa files, but Pixel Image Editor and The GIMP don't open them.
[18:31] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: problem is windows didnt overwrite grub might have something to do with how i installed it on a different hdd then ubuntu but i dont know
[18:31] <saerg> allquixotic: http://registry.gimp.org/node/70
[18:31] <Nasso> had anyone here ever gotten a nvidia 6600gt to work in ubuntu?
[18:31] <l337ingDisorder> Hey can anyone help with an FTP question? In a web browser I can load ftp://user:pass@host to have it connect without prompting for login info... I'd like to do the same with the command-line client, so I can just create a bash script to immediately drop me into a specific FTP account connection. Does anyone know how to do that on the command line?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, i cant understand what you mean
[18:31] <allquixotic> saerg: Thanks, I'll try building that
[18:32] <Nasso> i cant seem to get it working. gdm doesnt start up and in gdms logs i can read things like "no screens found" and "No devices selected". im using nvidias driver
[18:33] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: i installed windows to a third hard drive that i have ubuntu is on the second but after installing windows ubuntu is what booted. i am checking now to see if it is as simple as i forgot to make the windows partitinion a boot partition
[18:33] <hbekel> l337ingDisorder: ncftp supports ftp:// url like that
[18:33] <Lint> ok, back to my question. where I can get missing dependencies?
[18:34] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: sorry, I don't spot anything that looks obviously wrong to me. The trace at the end might be related, and then again, might not. :/
[18:34] <l337ingDisorder> hbekel: thanks I'll look into it
[18:34] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: mayhaps someone smarter will have an answer for you.
[18:34] <dual> Can someone explain what PUT/LIST Requests are, and how to count?
[18:34] <saerg> l337ingDisorder: man netrc
[18:34] <clearscreen> Lint: apt
[18:34] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: no it has the boot flag
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, grub doesnt see boot flags
[18:34] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok. Thanks for going through it.  what do you think about re-installing the kernel and modules?
[18:35] <cemc> is there a nice applet for gnome which will show me the free space on mounted partitions?
[18:35] <l337ingDisorder> saerg: thanks, yeah I'm in the middle of researching netrc right now as a matter of fact :)
[18:35] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: hmmm well either way i cant get windows to boot
[18:35] <Lint> I've said it's *missing* dependency. What the heck apt has to do with it?
[18:35] <jardi> saerg: still here ? Sorry but gimpnet is under spambots attack and is closed
[18:35] <De-Mentor> dose anyone know why in apt-get update you would get some packages with Translation-en_US in the end that Fail to download?
[18:35] <ChrizC1> my panels have gone and they're not starting up by themselves, is there a terminal command to start the panels? (8.10 Intrepid)
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, make a entry into menu.lst
[18:35] <jastonas> there is a way chrizc1
[18:35] <De-Mentor> sorry not packages i ment respetories
[18:35] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: thats what i did
[18:35] <ChrizC1> jastonas: which is?
[18:36] <jastonas> there is a way ive had the same problem
[18:36] <jastonas> have you tried google?
[18:36] <hbekel> l337ingDisorder: sorry, not quite, but it has commandline options for user/pwd
[18:36] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, after that install grub again
[18:36] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: ??? how do i do that?
[18:36] <yowshi> !!grub
[18:37] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: ok that doesnt really tell me how to reinstall greub
[18:37] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you can always try that.
[18:37] <sendric> Hello to everybody, i have installed Ubuntu Desktop 8.10 on my laptop at home with ADSL internet connection. What i need to install and how to configure to be able to send email from my laptop via PHP:
[18:37] <sendric> <?php
[18:37] <sendric> $to = "myemailaddress@hotmail.com";
[18:37] <sendric> $subject = "Test mail";
[18:37] <sendric> $message = "Hello! This is a simple email message.";
[18:37] <FloodBot1> sendric: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <sendric> $from = "support@server.com";
[18:37] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: however, it's rather unlikely that the kernel would break.
[18:38] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: but something in the system configuration may have, so I'm not ruling it out entirely.
[18:38] <jastonas> now i have a difficult question. Any way to add a custom resolution?
[18:38] <jastonas> Cant find anything......
[18:38] <yowshi> ok ni think i found it brb i hope
[18:39] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, how do I do it? is it an easy synaptic thing?
[18:39] <saerg> jardi: i can get there...
[18:39] <De-Mentor> dose anyone know why in apt-get update you would get some repositories with Translation-en_US in the end that Fail to download?
[18:40] <zanberdo> I have a head-less server running ubuntu and I need a way to observe the output that is usually directed to tty1 during the boot.  I can ssh to the server, but I'm not sure what log file I can review that will show me the results of the last boot.  Any help?
[18:40] <sendric> hello people what i must to install and configure the ubuntu 8.10 to be able to send email's from my home laptop via php ???
[18:40] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: I don't remember synaptic, but if you know the package names, sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall
[18:40] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok, thanks
[18:40] <De-Mentor> sendric: you need to install an smtp server
[18:40] <De-Mentor> sendric: like postfix or sendmail
[18:40] <swiftarrow> Hey, does anyone know the package name to re-install the kernel and drivers?
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: for the kernel, linux-image-`uname -r`
[18:41] <clearscreen> De-Mentor: if you're from the netherlands, the dutch apt repo's have been struggling the past couple of weeks
[18:41] <jonathan__> hello! i'm trying to install libgpod to make gtkpod support my ipod nano 4g. i downloaded the trunk svn version and started the configure script autogen.sh. I installed all the dependencies that the script told me to install. Now the script ends with success, except the warning about cover artwork. It's an ptional dependency, but i would like to use artwork on my ipod. so i installed "libgdk-pixbuf" with success, like in the warning the
[18:41] <jonathan__> script gave me. But at the end of the script it still tells me that artwork support is disables. I tried to enable it with --enable-libgdk-pixbuf, but that didn't work to... :/ any ideas what I'm doing wrong? By the way: I'm using kubuntu... Thanks in advance... :)
[18:41] <Tokenekie> "/search" searches for text in man pages and highlights them, how do I unhighlight the text?
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: the `uname -r` will expand to your running kernel version
[18:41] <De-Mentor> clearscreen: nope i'm from the US
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: pay attention to the backticks. It's `, not ' or ´
[18:41] <clearscreen> De-Mentor: alright, then I wouldn't have a clue, you could try a different repository
[18:42] <yoshi> !grub
[18:42] <De-Mentor> clearscreen: I tried diffrent servers but its in the default ubuntu respository
[18:42] <Tokenekie> "/search" searches for text in man pages and highlights them, how do I unhighlight the text?
[18:42] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, thanks.  the ` is the one under the ~, right?  Also, does that install the kernel modules too?
[18:43] <eterna1> would sudo apt-get install java update to lastest java ?
[18:43] <jastonas> that thing about adding a custom resolution with nvidia cards? anyone knows if its doable?
[18:43] <hbekel> jonathan__: did you run ldconfig after installing libgdk-pixbuf?
[18:43] <jonathan__> hm i'm not sure what ldconfig is, but isn't it running automatically when using apt-get??
[18:43] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: um, on my keyboard it's the key just left from backspace. Press shift, that key and then space.
[18:44] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: then again, my keyboard has a Finnish layout, so your mileage may vary.
[18:44] <Lint> how can I reset 'sources.list' file to default?
[18:44] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok I think I know which one.   does that do the modules too, or is it a different command?
[18:44] <eterna1> .
[18:45] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you may want linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` too
[18:45] <clearscreen> eterna1: yeah, but only the latest one in your currently configured repository
[18:45] <hbekel> jonathan__: don't know really. if ldconfig doesn't help, look at the config.log to find out if the test for gdk-pixbuf happens and where it fails exactely
[18:45] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: the non-restricted modules come in the kernel package, IIRC.
[18:45] <jonathan__> ok ldconf didn't help
[18:45] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, what's IIRC mean?
[18:46] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 and ubuntu desktop 8.1 on a LAN router with dhcp, thye desktop has internet but the server gives error on the dhcp server can someone help mee i can give more info on reactions
[18:46] <clearscreen> if I recall correctly
[18:46] <nathan7> If I Recall Correctly
[18:46] <Rytmis> IIRC IIRC is If I Recall Correctly ;-)
[18:46] <eterna1> Clearscreen i just updated everything then from update so it should be listed as the version 6?
[18:46] <jonathan__> Package gdk-pixbuf-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[18:46] <jonathan__> thats the error
[18:46] <clearscreen> eterna1: depends on what ubuntu release/repositories you are using
[18:47] <eterna1> 7.10 gutzy
[18:47] <Rytmis> jonathan__: you need libgdk-pixbuf-dev or somesuch.
[18:47]  * nathan7 chews on Rytmis 
[18:47] <clearscreen> why would you even still be using 7.10 :P
[18:47] <eterna1> i am just installing tomcat and all the java installs with it
[18:47]  * Rytmis is chewy
[18:47] <eterna1> lol
[18:48] <eterna1> it has the update to 8.04 about to happen
[18:48]  * Rytmis is also moist and delicious, like cake
[18:48] <Soyo> <-- Has a blank blue screen for a desktop whether he uses gnome or XFwm... can move the mouse around, load firefox, or other programs with no problem, but there are no menus or anything...
[18:48] <hbekel> jonathan__: sorry, i shouldn't try to help people on ubuntu
[18:48] <hbekel> dev packages, pft
[18:49] <Soyo> !desktop
[18:49] <eterna1> lol soyo someone has the same problem before i think it was to resart the x server or so
[18:49] <Rytmis> pkg-config .pc files come in -dev packages.
[18:49] <hbekel> ok this is definitely not my distro
[18:49] <Soyo> !xfce
[18:49] <hbekel> bye
[18:49] <Tokenekie1> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:49] <Guest28690> grrr how do i find the damnable partition i need to mount. cant remember which command lists drives
[18:50] <Nasso> when i installed the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu graphical restricted drivers tool, my xorg stopped working. gdm says no devices could be detected. can anyone help me with this?
[18:50] <vetus6oo> boa tarde pessoal, estou com problemas de instalaçao do snort alguem quer ajudar a configurar
[18:50] <jonathan__> thanks
[18:50] <Tokenekie> Guest28690: fdisk -l
[18:50] <jonathan__> that solved my problem i think
[18:50] <Tokenekie> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:51] <Tokenekie> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:53] <eterna1> lol
[18:53] <diop> ciao a tutti
[18:54] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, Ok, thanks so much for your help.  I have to sleep, but I will go through those commands, educate myself about them, and perhaps run them, tomorrow.  Thanks again
[18:54] <Rytmis> Tokenekie: esc-u seems to do the trick
[18:54] <saerg> Tokenekie: ESC-u
[18:54] <Rytmis> Tokenekie: assuming your pager is "less"
[18:54] <diop> c'è un che parla italiano qui?
[18:54] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: welcome *tips hat*
[18:54] <eterna1> !update
[18:55] <Yowshi2> ok so my find command in grub says stage1 is in (hd1,0) doesnt that mean i need to run setup (hd1)? and if so why does it keep saying invalid device request
[18:55] <Rytmis> !it | diop
[18:55] <diop> grazie
[18:55] <Griliath> Bonsoir tout le monde
[18:55] <Griliath> Buenos Noche
[18:55] <nathan7> Italian is quite much like French.
[18:55] <Tokenekie> Rytmis: saerg: That did the trick, thanks.
[18:55] <Rytmis> Ethethethethe pethethethethe Boutros Boutros Ghali
[18:55] <nathan7> !nl
[18:55] <Griliath> ok i m sorry
[18:55] <nathan7> Woot.
[18:55] <diop> je parle aussi le français
[18:56] <Griliath> diop tu parles francais
[18:56] <Rytmis> Javisst, och jag talar lite svensk.
[18:56]  * grawity lols at ubottu
[18:56] <diop> oui griliath
[18:56] <Soyo> !fr
[18:57] <diop> ok
[18:57] <eterna1> !cz
[18:57] <Griliath> ok tkx i go on ubuntu .fr See you
[18:57] <diop> ciao
[18:57] <Rytmis> !fi
[18:57] <D4T> hi all, every reboot I get "kicking non-fresh sdX from array!" then the md device re-syncs with its hot spare. anyone ever seen this before?
[18:57] <eterna1> !au
[18:58] <kyle__> does any one have a command that will display taskbar, not system monitor, program names
[18:58] <kyle__> any thoughts would be great
[18:59] <Soyo> <-- lost his taskbar months ago and still can't figure out how to get it back
[18:59] <jelly12gen> kyle__: conky?
[18:59] <Rytmis> Soyo: if you're using Gnome, you should be able to add a new panel, and then add the window navigator applet to that panel. :)
[19:01] <zamba> which is better (especially performance): cifs/nfs?
[19:01] <Soyo> Rytmis: I just installed XFce and I got a desktop with the XFce session option!
[19:01] <Rytmis> Soyo: I seem to recall that GDM has an option to boot to the default session of a desktop.
[19:01] <Rytmis> Soyo: in case your session options are borked.
[19:02] <Soyo> what does borked mean? f#%$ed?
[19:02] <eterna1> borked aka broken aka stuffed
[19:03] <Soyo> yeah somethings wrong with it, and reinstalling doesn't help
[19:03] <zanberdo> does anyone have experience with enabling boot logging?  I've read on the ubuntu forum that one merely needs to change /etc/default/bootlogd BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes, however when I do this I find I do not end up with a log at /var/log/boot as expected.  Anyone aware of any problems/fixes related to this?
[19:03] <grauss> hola uenas
[19:04] <Jimi_Neutral_> Hi Guys, i have just partitioned / home and swap and i have tried to install but when i click on the install icon on the desktop (im using live) nothing happens
[19:04] <grauss> alguien me puede echar una mano, tengo un problemita con una compact flash que no la puedo abrir
[19:04] <eterna1> !it
[19:05] <regeya> UM.
[19:05] <regeya> !ES
[19:05] <eterna1> um!
[19:05] <dual> I have scanned a paper, and I want to convert the text on it to text on my computer. Are there any good tools for this?
[19:05] <kyle__> here is the link for fixing the taskbar
[19:05] <Rytmis> !um
[19:05] <kyle__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877358&highlight=bottom+pannel
[19:05] <eterna1> !find me
[19:05] <regeya> Um, um um um, um, um; um um um, um.
[19:05] <scunizi> Can anyone explain why a directory and recursive files have permissions of 766 and owned by me can't be seen or written to by a VM windows guest but can when the permissions are 777?
[19:05] <segin> !find freebasic
[19:06] <Lint> dual: abbyy finereader
[19:06] <segin> !info libfreebasic
[19:06] <dual> Lint: Thanks
[19:06] <segin> !files libfreebasic
[19:06] <Jimi_Neutral_> its ok, nevermind, it was on the other desktop lol
[19:06] <Jimi_Neutral_> bye yall
[19:06] <dual> Lint: Not free?
[19:06] <eterna1> !define freebasic
[19:07] <scunizi> eterna1: you can play with the bot in #ubuntu-bots
[19:07] <eterna1> thanx
[19:07] <Lint> dual: all quality OCR software is not free
[19:07] <dual> Lint: Ok :(
[19:07] <regeya> indeed.
[19:07] <Guest51686> thnks
[19:08] <regeya> gocr and ocrad does a good job with fantastic source material.  if it's not fantastic, forget it.
[19:08] <regeya> do a good job
[19:08] <regeya> rather
[19:08] <grauss> how i can open and see the files of a compact flash
[19:10] <thomasdelbeke> Hi there
[19:10] <scunizi> I have a shared directory that has permissions of 766 (or -rwxrw-rw-) that cannot be written to by another machine on the lan. However it does work when the permissions are 777 or -rwxrwxrwx.  What gives? I thought the x bit was to execution of a program..?
[19:10] <allquixotic> Does anyone know how I can render text that looks like this as a bitmap of some sort? (e.g. for use in games). http://tiyukquellmalz.org/login_s2.png   I'm not as interested in *the font* being used, so much as the fact that the middle parts of the letters are _not_ a solid color... I don't think FreeType can even do that. Any idea how that might be done besides hand editing?
[19:10] <eterna1> hi
[19:10] <thomasdelbeke> I want to change the debuggingprocedures wiki
[19:10] <scunizi> allquixotic: you can do that in gimp.. and maybe in inkscape.. save or export as png
[19:11] <Lint> scunizi, x bit for directories allows browsing
[19:11] <Jimi_Neutral> hey bit confused with this install, im not sure what to press....im at the prepare partitons screen
[19:11] <grauss> some chat in spanish, i don't speak english
[19:11] <zhurai> <Jimi_Neutral> hey bit confused with this install, im not sure what to press....im at the prepare partitons screen  <-- do you still want your old partitions?
[19:11] <allquixotic> scunizi: I tried rendering fonts of all sorts in GIMP, but it won't come out the same because the inner parts of the letters are always just solid colors
[19:11] <arvind_khadri> scunizi, x bit is for execution
[19:11] <Lint> Jimi_Neutral, and waht exactly you want to achieve
[19:11] <yowshi> grrr i cant get it to boot no matter which numbers i put in (hdx,x) i wouldnt even have to try fi i could have gotten wine fixed
[19:11] <scunizi> Lint: ok.. I'll go with that.. but at the original permission level it won't even let me write.. I don't understand that.
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> At this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures; this link: Kernel Team bug policies should be replaced with: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[19:12] <scunizi> arvind_khadri: I mentioned that ..
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> Anyone can help?
[19:12] <Jeruvy> scunizi: are you sure it's not a chown problem..?
[19:12] <anr78> anyone running Ubuntu on the latest MacBook Pro?
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> The first link is dead.
[19:12] <Jimi_Neutral> Lint: Well i have the root home and swap partitions already set up, i just ant to install now...its dual boot cause im migrating from xp to linux for the firs time
[19:13] <scunizi> Jeruvy: the directory was originally created by the windows guest and had ownership of none:none which is not a user on my system. so I chown'd it to myuser:myuser
[19:13] <Jimi_Neutral> zhurai: yes i want all th partitons as they are, i hav already set them all up
[19:13] <trent> Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:13] <Jeruvy> scunizi: your not using a ntfs filesystem are you?
[19:14] <coreyman> I want windows users to be able to write to my samba shares, what do i need to do
[19:14] <scunizi> Jeruvy: shouldn't make a difference.. the shared directory is on the ubuntu box with ext3
[19:14] <scunizi> Jeruvy: the guest is Win2kPro VM in Virtualbox and is NTFS
[19:14] <bach> Hey, wonder if someone can help answer a question i have ? it is regarding the possibility of setting up a virtual enviroment in linux pointing to my windows particion ?
[19:15] <Jeruvy> scunizi: shouldn't I agree with, but ACL's don't migrate very well and I've seen bizarre permission issues.  But I think if its ext3 then you should be ok.  Just thought I'd check if that might be a culprit, doesn't sound like it tho, sorry.
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> Ok, someone plz replace the dead link on the debugging wiki page, as I do not know howto.
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> At this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures; this link: Kernel Team bug policies should be replaced with: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> The first link is dead.
[19:15] <scunizi> bach: if you want to run your windows as a virtual machine you have to install a VM first then install windows into the VM.. otherwise if you're just looking to access the file structure of the windows side that should be an issue.. but it's not a virtual environment at that ponit
[19:16] <thomasdelbeke> Going down for reboot now, cheers, Thomas.
[19:16] <scunizi> Jeruvy: thanks..
[19:16] <Jimi_Neutral> i click next but it says no root is defined but i did all the partitions earlier
[19:16] <knut> what is the best kind of file compression format to use with working in a network of windows pcs? .zip, .tar.gz or gz. ...?
[19:16] <regeya> .zip generally
[19:17] <trent> .zip or .rar
[19:17] <kyle__> .zip
[19:17] <trent> .rar is better compression
[19:17] <bach> scunizi: thanks for the reply, i wanted to have access to use/run apps (mainly games) under my windows partition with out rebooting my PC to log back into Windows each time.
[19:17] <trent> Jimi_Neutral: You can also try .7z
[19:17] <trent> Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:17] <knut> ok thx
[19:17] <knut> :P
[19:17] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: if you did the partitions earlier you may not have tagged the partitions for what they were intended.  "/' = root ... /swap = swap.. /home = home
[19:18] <coreyman> I want windows users to be able to write to my samba shares, what do i need to do
[19:18] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: well i labelled then and followed someones advice...hey by the way :) im not sure what to do now....im on a bit that has boxes next to the partitions saying format? and im a bit confuzze dlol
[19:18] <MrElendig> coreyman: give them write permission in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:19] <scunizi> bach: that's not dooable. you can't run what's on that dual boot side from inside ubuntu or any linux for that matter.  If the games are able to be installed and run from inside ubuntu you will most likely have to do that with Wine or Cedega.. check Winehq.org for compatability of the games with linux.
[19:19] <coreyman> MrElendig that is my question more specifically, how do i give them permission let me show you the line i have written.
[19:19] <fbn> hi, how can I mount linux raid autodetect filesystem on ubuntu?
[19:19] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: are you in the ubuntu installer doing the manual partitioning portion?
[19:20] <MrElendig> coreyman: there are about 20 ways to do it, depending on what level and scheme of security you want
[19:20] <coreyman>       [LINUXSHARE]
[19:20] <coreyman>         comment = Some files
[19:20] <coreyman>         path = /mnt/windows
[19:20] <coreyman>         browseable = yes
[19:20] <coreyman>         read only = no
[19:20] <FloodBot1> coreyman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <Ludo> can somebody please reset their ubuntu forum password and tell me if it works? http://ubuntuforums.org/login.php?do=lostpw
[19:20] <trent> Coreyman use pastebin
[19:20] <MrElendig> coreyman: not that you also have to give the user write permission on the share itself
[19:20] <trent> Do not flood the channel
[19:20] <coreyman> thx minimod trent
[19:21] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Earlier on i insterted the live CD and ran gparted (is that what its called) anyway i di all the partitions but didnt have time to install so i have now come home turned it all on again to run from the live cd and just double clicked the install icon on the desktop...im now on step 4 of 7 and it iasking me to prepare partitions
[19:21] <trent> Can anyone answer this? Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:22] <MrElendig> trent: try fixmbr and then reinstall grub to mbr
[19:22] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. does it have the option of doing the partitions manually?
[19:23] <coreyman> MrElendig get my private message?
[19:23] <MrElendig> I don't do support in /queryt
[19:23] <MrElendig> /query*
[19:23] <coreyman> ....
[19:23] <coreyman> here is my samba conf
[19:23] <coreyman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142989/
[19:23] <MrElendig> it's counter-productive
[19:23] <coreyman> everything looks right to me
[19:23] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: yes that was step 3...it says u want to use the whole disk (will wipe xp) or set up manually so i chose manually and now im on step 4
[19:24] <MrElendig> coreyman: check the permission on the share itself
[19:24] <coreyman> MrElendig good thinking
[19:24] <MrElendig> you probably want 766 on it
[19:24] <Nasso> i get a "Saw signal 11. Server aborting." error in my Xorg.0.log when trying to start up x after installing the nvidia restricted drivers on my new install of ubuntu. does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:24] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: sorry make that step 4 and 5 respectivley
[19:24] <trent> MrElendig: Do I just run fixmbr with terminal or are you talking about using windows vista recovery disk?
[19:24] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. it's been a while.. how many partitons did you previously create for the install?
[19:24] <coreyman> MrElendig I'll do 777 for the sake of testing
[19:24] <MrElendig> trent: windows cd
[19:24] <trent> ok thanks
[19:25] <MrElendig> you will have to reinstall grub after you do it, since it will overwrite it
[19:25] <MrElendig> make sure you install grub to mbr
[19:25] <shumpi> Hello, I am trying to make my usb -microphone work in Audacity, have been surfing forums for a while now, but no luck...
[19:25] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: i have one for xp which i shrunk and then with what was left i did three partitions / home and swap
[19:25] <MrElendig> and not to the vista partion
[19:25] <shumpi> So, if someone could help Id be really thankful
[19:25] <trent> MrElendig, when I run fixmbr via windows recovery console it will get rid of grub and automatically boot into windows?  then from windows I will need to restore grub?
[19:26] <MrElendig> trent: after doing the fixmbr, try to boot windows once, if it boots, then boot the ubuntu install cd, chroot to your ubuntu install, and reinstall grub to mbr
[19:26] <trent> ok thanks
[19:27] <UbuntuCop> how do i go with making my scanner work in Xsane
[19:27] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. hang on I"m trying to google a page with pics of the install process .. if you know which partition is which (by size), the installer I'm use to makes you go through each partition one at a time.  Pick the first tagg it to format and then tag it for the right "label" ie root swap home
[19:28] <J_A_X> so, I'm trying to get flash to have sound, but there isn't a freaking firefoxrc file anyone
[19:28] <J_A_X> anywhere*
[19:28] <J_A_X> anyone can help>?
[19:28] <pw-toxic> hi
[19:28] <trent> MrElendig:  Any resources on chroot, i do not know how to do that
[19:28] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: forget the h
[19:29] <MrElendig> trent: there probabl is a page on the ubuntu wiki
[19:29] <beware> can i boot an ubuntu desktop cd into non-gui mode?
[19:29] <trent> ok thanks
[19:29] <MrElendig> about reinstalling grub
[19:29] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: forget the "Hang on " portion. I can't find a page.. did what I said make sense?
[19:29] <MrElendig> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=ubuntu+install&aq=f
[19:29] <pw-toxic> i'm looking for a good dictionary from german to english - offline
[19:29] <pw-toxic> any suggestions?
[19:29] <randum_user> I think Google can help you, pw-toxic.
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: stardict?
[19:30] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: AH HA! found one.. you're in the "Prepare partitions" page right?
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: or ding
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: no idea about how good ding is tho
[19:30] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: yes and it is not leting me go forward cause "no root is defined"
[19:31] <pw-toxic> MrElendig: that's why im asking for ;)  asking for some expierences with such programs ;)
[19:31] <flippo> Does ubuntu "uname" return "linux64" for 64-bit, or just "linux"?
[19:31] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: No root file system is defined.
[19:31] <Jimi_Neutral> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[19:31] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: pro tip: just try them(tm) and find out which you like the most
[19:31] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. highlight the partitions that is suppose to be root and then in the bottom of the window click the "Edit Partition" button
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: it should return Linux
[19:32] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: done
[19:32] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: in there you should be able to definie the "Mount point"
[19:32] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks.
[19:32] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: the mount point should be / or root
[19:32] <flippo> Any other way to detect whether I'm looking at a 64-bit machine?
[19:32] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ah yes i saw them earlier but i didnt know what it was so i didnt touch it, if it has said 'root' i would have chosen that lol
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: umane with no arguments == uname -s == kernel name
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: so when you are on GNU/Linux, that would be 'Linux'
[19:33] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: do that for each partition and define what it should be
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: uname -m
[19:33] <Quetschman> moin
[19:33] <flippo> MrElendig, i686 doesn't sound much like 64-bit.
[19:33] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: mount point is greyed out until i choose 'Use As'
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: of if you want the hardware, /proc/cpuinfo
[19:33] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: that's fine
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: uname -m is what the software is, not what the hardware is
[19:33] <coreyman> MrElendig the permissions on the folder itself was the problem
[19:34] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: "Use As" and then define it .. right?
[19:34] <flippo> MrElendig, yes, not seeing it there either.  I must have a brand-new 32-bit machine.
[19:34] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: hehe what do i choose? under 'use as'  there are loads of options...im gussing ext3
[19:34] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: yes.. that is the defacto standard at this point..
[19:34] <abstrakt> should i go with 8.04, 8.10 or 9.04 for my Dell Vostro 1500 laptop?
[19:34] <MrElendig> flippo: pastebin the output of `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[19:34] <pw-toxic> MrElendig: i think stardict is not for offline use
[19:34] <abstrakt> i just need/want a developer workstation with LAMP
[19:35] <abstrakt> right now i'm using windows, and XDebug seems to crash apache *hardcore*
[19:35] <abstrakt> i'm hoping that maybe this won't be such a problem on *nix
[19:35] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok just to let you know Use As is a seperate choice to mount point...the mount point options are greyed out i have to choose a 'Use As' option first
[19:35] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: you can download the dictionart file to your machine and use it offline
[19:35] <MrElendig> abstrakt: 9.04
[19:35] <UbuntuCop> !offtopic
[19:35] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: gotcha.. I typically install with the alternate cd and it doesn't have a gui on install so I'm not use to the pretty pictures.
[19:36] <lakeoftea> OMG I CANT WAIT FOR 9,04 !
[19:36] <scunizi> lakeoftea: so don't.. install now
[19:36] <MrElendig> lots of improvements in .29
[19:36] <abstrakt> MrElendig, isn't 9.04 still "beta" or whatever?
[19:36] <lakeoftea> but i dont want the beta lol
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> yes it is and im using it right now lol
[19:36] <abstrakt> Jimi_Neutral, laptop?
[19:36] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/142998/
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok bud i see it now, dont go no where tho lol
[19:36] <kilj> Anyone here experienced with ATI x1900 raedon cards overheating in Intrepid?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: nothing that amazing  with 9.04  except optional Ext4 suppourt
[19:36] <scunizi> lakeoftea: just keep updating and by the release date it will be the release version
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> abstrakt: yeah laptop
[19:37] <vetus6oo> i ppl
[19:37] <MrElendig> flippo: you can run x86_64 on that cpu
[19:37] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: well clean install for proper Ext4 suppourt
[19:37] <abstrakt> Jimi_Neutral, what specific make/model ?
[19:37] <vetus6oo> i have some problems to install snort with mysql
[19:37] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I'll be here.  Unless my son turns off my laptop again.. I'm remoting into it with my desktop and using IRC via ssh on irssi.. if that makes ANY sense to you at this point in your linux adventure. :)
[19:37] <abstrakt> and should i go with 64 bit? or is it still the case that the nvidia drivers and flash are only 32 bit?
[19:37] <vetus6oo> can you helpe..
[19:38] <flippo> MrElendig, dandy.   Is that a matter of installing and selecting a different kernel for booting?
[19:38] <abstrakt> scunizi, makes perfect sense to me :P
[19:38] <scunizi> abstrakt: :)
[19:38] <abstrakt> scunizi, would make better sense if it was in a borderless transparent aterm :)
[19:38] <flippo> MrElendig, strangely, this is what Dell installed for me.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: Flash is also 64bit
[19:38] <Jimi_Neutral> abstrakt: a cheap novatech one that has no model as such....it just says novatech on the top and its a m541n
[19:38] <MrElendig> flippo: that's just dell
[19:38] <scunizi> abstrakt: well I have too much stuff going on , on my desktop and my eyes hate that type of thing.. older eyes.. :)
[19:38] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, so they've got 64 bit flash available for *nix ?
[19:39] <cfed8> hi
[19:39] <Ven]n> when I updated the kernel in Ubuntu to 2.6.27-11 from -7, most icons were replaced with different icons and nautilus got a blue frame instead of the normal brown. a reboot fixed it. but what happened?
[19:39] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, and 64 bit nvidia drivers?
[19:39] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: lol show off
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: yeah and that's been ages
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: for Flash and I think nivida have drivers to
[19:39] <flippo> MrElendig, does this require a new install?
[19:39] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, remember that this is a laptop...
[19:39] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: Naw!.. it's just fun stuff :)
[19:39] <vetus6oo> snort not configure mysql . can help
[19:39] <MrElendig> flippo: only if you want to use 64bit
[19:39] <abstrakt> at least on windows, you have to get special Dell display drivers
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: try the 64bit Live CD?  altough with 9.04 in a few weeks.  it's  a bit pointless putting 8.10 on now
[19:39] <abstrakt> you can't use the nVidia ones
[19:40] <beware> is it deliberately impossible to boot an ubuntu cd without desktop?
[19:40] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks
[19:40] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok im stuck on swap....what do i use for tht or does tht not have a mount point?
[19:40] <kilj> Anyone here able to assist with an ATI card overheating in Intrepid?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: plus for the optional  file system Ext4,  you would have to clean install for proper suppourt
[19:40] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, i'm just still very wary of moving to 64 bit... last time i tried there were just way too many problems
[19:40] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: actually .. to clarify.. I'm remoting into my laptop with ssh and using screen with irssi.. swap is /swap and for file type you simply choose swap
[19:40] <sebsebseb> abstrakt:  works fine for most people
[19:40] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, i don't particularly care about Ext4... i mean... should i?
[19:41] <MrElendig> abstrakt: I run x86_64 on 7 different boxes, with no problems at all
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: well it will be much better than Ext3
[19:41] <abstrakt> like... how much better?
[19:41] <abstrakt> performance improvements?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: a lot
[19:41] <abstrakt> hmm
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: yep  much faster, etc
[19:41] <abstrakt> so i should probably just wait 2 weeks and get 9.04 when it's officially released
[19:41] <lakeoftea> sebsebseb whats a ppa
[19:41] <ska_> Anyone know if Att wireless broadband cards are easy to configure?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: there was/is  some dataloss issue with development versions of  9.04 though.   so  I am waiting for good reviews before I get rid of this set up, which is the beta on Ext3
[19:42] <MrElendig> abstrakt: if you encode ogg, then you can expect 40-60% better performance on 64bit :p
[19:42] <abstrakt> ska_, i doubt honestly that *any* cell card is easy to configure on *nix
[19:42] <abstrakt> but i would like to know the same thing too...
[19:42] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: waiting for final  and  good Ext4 reviews, before I clean install
[19:42] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok i chose 'swap area' as 'use as' but 'mount point' is gryed out...wont give me the option to use anything is tht right?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> !ppa |  lakeoftea
[19:42] <abstrakt> the main critical app for me on windows is my Verizon wireless card
[19:42] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: disable writeahead, and ext4 becomes much safer when it comes to data loss from unclean shutdowns
[19:42] <Flannel> Jimi_Neutral: swap doesn't get mounted anywhere, it just gets used, so that's nothing to worry about.
[19:42] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: it already knows because of the file system type.. not to worry
[19:42] <Jimi_Neutral> nice
[19:42] <prjktdtnt> In firefox does anyone know how to make it remember it's last size and position when opening it again and if so can you point me to a tutorial
[19:43] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: well well  not sure what you mean quite, and I expect 9.04 final will have  that kind of thing sorted out?
[19:43] <MrElendig> I asume it will use the default ext4 settings
[19:43] <scunizi> sebsebseb: maybe by 9.04.1
[19:43] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: Ubuntu only does security updates, if you want later programs,  ppa
[19:43] <kaigeos> anyone here using gnome-xchat?
[19:43] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: The file system on /dev/sda3 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting.  Directories containing system files (/etc, /lib, /usr, /var, ...) that already exist under any defined mountpoint will be deleted during the install.
[19:43] <Jimi_Neutral> Please ensure that you have backed up any critical data before installing.
[19:43] <scunizi> kaigeos: avoid it and install xchat
[19:44] <kaigeos> kk. I'll do that.
[19:44] <zilleplus> how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????,
[19:44] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: go ahead.. It's going to format
[19:44] <sebsebseb> scunizi: hummmmmm  I am hoping  9.04  can do a Ext4 that is all good, and then can be upgraded untill the computer dies, or Ext5
[19:44] <kaigeos> something wronge with the gnome version?
[19:44] <MrElendig> kaigeos: irssi/weechat is even better
[19:44] <ska_> IS wifi different from wireless cell?
[19:44] <scunizi> sebsebseb: it might.. I'
[19:44] <sebsebseb> scunizi: I mean the Ubuntu partition that is installed on that partition
[19:44] <kaigeos> oh? i'll check them both out.
[19:44] <scunizi> sebsebseb: I'll wait until 9.04.1 to upgrade. but I'll play with 9.04 in a vm
[19:44] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: you can change the ext4 options yourself, so it's a moot point
[19:44] <zilleplus>  how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????
[19:45] <kaigeos> I'm using Intrepid should both be available with apt-get? MrElendig?
[19:45] <kilj_> Hmm.  I am having issues with my ATI x1900 card overheating when I installed updated Ubuntu to Intrepid.  If anyone has a second to assist me perhaps?
[19:45] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: http://www.h-online.com/open/Kernel-developers-squabble-over-Ext3-and-Ext4--/news/112937
[19:45] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: well  when the time is right with Ext4 and 9.04  I will clean install, that's the plan
[19:45] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: do i want to import my user accounts from my xp install?
[19:46] <zilleplus>  how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????
[19:46] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. if you want.. which accounts? email?
[19:46] <Flannel> !repeat | zilleplus
[19:46] <Jimi_Neutral> easy on the ?
[19:46] <kaigeos> kilj I just setup with using ATI x1200 I was running fine once I got the latest driver from ati.amd.com  and took out compiz
[19:46] <OscarTgrouch> how do i show all running processes from the command line?
[19:46] <MrElendig> zilleplus: man ifconfig
[19:46] <kaigeos> ps -x
[19:46] <Ranakah> OscarTgrouch
[19:46] <Ranakah> ps aux
[19:46] <OscarTgrouch> thanks
[19:47] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: it just says do u waana import the accounts 'administrator' and 'jimi' my user accounts
[19:47] <kilj_> I am using the proprietary ones that come with Intrepid.  Should I take compiz out?
[19:47] <scunizi> OscarTgrouch: YOu can also use top or install htop (better)
[19:47] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: says docs from there will be available after install......from linux??
[19:47] <eterna1> i been sitting here searching for java6 and it was in restricted packages :/ they love hiding things on you
[19:47] <Jatz> Hey, is there any way to have ubuntu not lock the screen when I put it to sleep? so I can open my laptop up and not have to re-enter the password each timre
[19:48] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: say yes.. what's the worst that can happen.. it won't mess with your windows install
[19:48] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: I don't understand about this stuff enough, so what are you or the article trying to say?
[19:48] <the10nitro> is there a tool to convert encodings and Unix/MS-DOS returns?
[19:49] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: the article explains why some people are experinecing data loss on ext4, and what you can do to avoid it
[19:49] <Veratyr9> Anybody here running 9.04? I dont know if i can wait any longer to try it, considering moving over now.  Is it stable enough to not make you rip your hair out?
[19:49] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ohh its just a migration of my docs folder...i thought it meant i could access it from my linux install...i dont use the my docs folder lol
[19:49] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: whatever it migrates you can always delete.. :)
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: no point doing it now, unless your going to clean install and do Ext4
[19:49] <Lint> how can I scan something without root permissions?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: ,but not much point in that even
[19:50] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: ext4? didnt know that was part of the deal, sweet.  guess i'll wait then
[19:50] <Lint> the10nitro, iconv
[19:50] <serenity> Mythbuntu is ubuntu setup for a system with a TV card right?
[19:50] <BlackCoffee> is there a way that i can create my own ubuntu cd?like for example with all my current installed apps,drivers and so forth?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: minor changes, and newer packages such as KDE 4.2
[19:50] <scunizi> serenity: yes
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: yeah, but that's not properly stable yet etc
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: Ext4, just wait. only a few weeksn ow
[19:51] <scunizi> BlackCoffee: you won't have enough room on the cd.. there is a way to create an easy install of your apps after a fresh install of ubuntu.
[19:51] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: and make sure the file system is stable enough before putting it on
[19:51] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: hope 4.2 is better than 4 was.  damn i was looking forward to trying out a new toy, but not willing to do a drive wipe yet
[19:51] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: yea that makes sense
[19:51] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok there it goes :)
[19:52] <soweto> I dont think its a good idea for your dad to know mpume's salary -- I agreee - it can raise expectations -indeed
[19:52] <Doonz> Can someone point me to a tutorial that will show me howto enable remote desktop access through the terminal
[19:52] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: http://www.h-online.com/open/Kernel-developers-squabble-over-Ext3-and-Ext4--/news/112937
[19:52] <soweto> Doonz; run vncserver
[19:52] <kilj_> So do you think Compiz is causing my ati card to constantly overheat?  Every 10 minutes my pc shuts down from the card going over 80 celsius.
[19:52] <soweto> Doonz; run vncserver :2  --> this will open session 2 on port 5902
[19:52] <Jimi_Neutral> ouch
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !vnc | Doonz
[19:52] <BlackCoffee> 80 celsius!
[19:53] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: good article, thx reading now
[19:53] <soweto> Doonz; unless of course you want to connect to Windows machines
[19:53] <kilj_> When I used Hardy it did not have this problem.
[19:53] <Doonz> Thanx guys this assumes i DO NOT have access to the current desktop
[19:53] <BlackCoffee> i had a similar problem,installed a vent for the graphics card and voila,problem solved
[19:53] <Jimi_Neutral> i only work in degree centigrade
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: better way to do WIndows machines :d
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: then that
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: no need to do putty on Windows anymore :)
[19:54] <sebsebseb> soweto: for VNC
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; say again
[19:54] <dnul> cant install JJ from pendrive
[19:54] <kilj_> Well i was not having these heating issues when I was using Hardy.  It just started happening when I did a new install up to Intrepid.  Could anything on the software end assist in lowering the temperature minus removing Compiz?
[19:54] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: still grinding away?
[19:54] <dnul> need help
[19:54] <eterna1> .
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; i used rdesktop to reach Windows machines
[19:54] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: 60%
[19:54] <sebsebseb> soweto: just use one of those sites that  provide a java applet for vnc,  to connect to Windows
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; it works for me,, tell me this new application you know..
[19:55] <kilj_> I do not use the Xorg drivers as I enjoy use of 3d capibilities.
[19:55] <soweto> sebsebseb; wont the Java kill my CPU
[19:55] <sebsebseb> soweto: no need to  use putty on WIndows to use ssh anymore, for VNC.  http://www.showmypc.com or more specifically  http://www.showmypc.com/mac  java won't kill anything, but  uac in vista will kill that one
[19:55] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: and just think.. when your done you won't have to install motherboard drivers, do 3 hrs of updates etc.. you will have to do updates and there will be several hundred probably but it doesn them in one shot
[19:55] <soweto> sebsebseb; I know that using COMPIZ is out of the question for me when I use rdesktop -- even firefox behaves badly and any other scrolling application
[19:55] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: and the updates won't take that long.. :)
[19:56] <chuckh1958> Is there a way to search for new packages added to the repositories after a certain date, or since the previous synaptic refresh?
[19:56] <kilj_> I will reboot the pc since I just removed compiz.  Do I have to goto all the programs that was associated with compiz or just remove its core?
[19:56] <Doonz> ok thanx for the tutorial. now is there one that doesnt assume you have access to the desktop
[19:56] <bitwiser> sebsebseb: you answer a lot of stuff here ... impressive
[19:56] <Jimi_Neutral> sunizi: ok to talk in private?
[19:56] <scunizi> kilj_: you don't have to reboot the pc.. just ctrl+alt+F2 and log in then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:56] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: sure, but basic stuff mainly
[19:56] <kilj_> Ok.  Thank you.
[19:56] <dnul> how can i install JJ beta from pendrive?
[19:57] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I'm there..
[19:57] <sebsebseb> !usb |  dnul
[19:57] <sebsebseb> dnul: jj beta?????
[19:58] <serenity> sebsebseb, jaunty
[19:58] <Ienorand> dnul: If you're on windows, use unetbootin.
[19:58] <sebsebseb> serenity: don't bother.
[19:58] <ari> how do i automatically load a kernel module on boot, rather than having to do sudo modprobe module ?
[19:58] <dnul> will try
[19:58] <dnul> thank
[19:58] <sebsebseb> serenity: wait for final and Ext4 to be stable   then put it on a hard disk :)
[19:59] <serenity> sebsebseb, don't bother? I was only explaining what JJ means. Also, he wants to install it from a USB stick, not to.
[19:59] <anarkiabmx> hey somebody speak spanish?
[19:59] <serenity> !es | anarkiabmx
[19:59] <vigo> !es
[19:59] <Nico`> Hi =)
[19:59] <Nico`> !es
[19:59] <sebsebseb> serenity: maybe I missed something
[19:59] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: hey
[19:59] <vigo> whoops
[19:59] <^paradox^> im in need of some 1 on 1 help syncing my palm z22. keep getting error messages. anyone can assist?
[19:59] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: actually yellow here.
[19:59] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: nice
[20:00] <Nico`> i have a probleme with my ubuntu server 8.10... can you help me?
[20:00] <serenity> sebsebseb, from the article link posted earlier i'll probably stay far away from ext4 for anything i want to keep safe.
[20:01] <sebsebseb> serenity: heh yeah,  well  loads of people say it works well for them
[20:01] <Nico`> pff
[20:01] <sebsebseb> serenity: ,but I don't know.   I think best to wait before getting rid of Ext3 to be replaced by Ext4
[20:01] <rhythmsou1> hi folks, I have a nasty problem when I try to play AVI files: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001455#post7001455
[20:01] <serenity> sebsebseb, as long as the system it is used on doesn't crash, i'm sure it works fine. But if the system crashes while data was on its way to the disc, you're in big troubles.
[20:02] <sebsebseb> serenity: and in that case I would recomend most people stay with 8.10, because jaunty isn't really worth it, espesailly when can get ppa's or whatever for  most of the later stuff anyway
[20:02] <serenity> rhythmsou1, please say in here what your problem was rather then posting a link. Many will not click links unless they are of interest to us.
[20:02] <Picassotamus> serentiy: I think I'm with you on that one
[20:02] <redrebel> i'm running out of disk space.... what are some things I can get of to free up some space?
[20:02] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks
[20:02] <zilleplus> can someone help
[20:02] <rhythmsou1> serenity: sorry, basically the whole desktop locks up when i play an AVI file
[20:02] <gabriel> hi everybody, i'm new with ubuntu 7.04 and i'm havong some problems installing openoffice
[20:02] <gabriel> can anyone help e with this?
[20:02] <serenity> sebsebseb, i actually like jaunty better then 8.10 atm. It seems to run much smoother on my laptop. Anyway, that's personal opinions. Care to discuss this onwards in offtopic?
[20:02] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks
[20:02] <zilleplus> <-- pneves is vertrokken
[20:03] <^paradox^> can someone just pm me and give me a quick hand with this? need help syncing my palm z22. dont know settings to tick
[20:03] <sebsebseb> gabriel: 7.04 is not supopurted anymore, as  far as I now, you should upgrade to at least 8.04
[20:03] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks pneves is vertrokken
[20:03] <gabriel> thanks!!
[20:03] <gabriel> but...how do i do that?
[20:03] <serenity> rhythmsou1, i'm not an expert on video settings. You'll have much better luck asking the channel. I tried to point you out how to get a better support reaction from people around here.
[20:03] <gabriel> i need to download it and install all over again?
[20:03] <Flannel> !upgrade | gabriel
[20:04] <sebsebseb> serenity:  juanty with Ext3?   and nah file system talks get boring,  I done it I don't know how many times the last 2 or so weeks
[20:04] <gabriel> thanks everyone!
[20:04] <Flannel> serenity, sebsebseb: mind taking the Jaunty/misc discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic? thanks
[20:04] <wo0f1> zxczxc
[20:04] <vigo> zilleplus: Check the MD5 and sums, it maybe a bad image
[20:04] <serenity> Flannel, i just asked him the same question. Was dropping the topic.
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: indeed and that's what he was asking me as well
[20:04] <rhythmsou1> serenity: which channel would you recommend?
[20:05] <sebsebseb> serenity: well use my name in offtopic if you want, because I am there as well
[20:05] <serenity> rhythmsou1, this channel. Just point it at the general channel, not to me personally.
[20:05] <Flannel> gabriel: If its a recent install, you should just reinstall though.  Upgrading won't be worth the effort/bandwidth.
[20:05] <rhythmsou1> serenity: ok :)
[20:06] <kilj> I removed compiz from my system but the graphics card is rising over 70 celsius again.  It still shuts down after 10 minutes.
[20:06] <Doonz> So is there a way to enable remote desktop access without having local access to login to the desktop
[20:07] <kilj> Are there any programs that lower the gpu speed or something?
[20:07] <chrislsp> hello
[20:07] <Tophu> I'm trying to install drivers from the nvidia website .. I had the 180.29 working and when I tried to install the 180.44 it seems to be messing up X
[20:07] <vigo> kilj: Yes, but I have to look it up....
[20:07] <Tophu> I get errors on start up and either have to reconfigure X server or run in "low graphics" mode
[20:08] <chrislsp> i need help with my ipod..i connected it and then lost all my files from ipod...disk is still full but i can not access
[20:08] <chrislsp> anyone??
[20:08] <chrislsp> i use ubuntu
[20:08] <burg> hello. do you know if 9.04 will fix the issue with nvidia 8200 chipset?
[20:08] <Flannel> burg: You should ask in #ubuntu+1, they may know.
[20:09] <^paradox^> well then is there a more specific channel for my palm z22 matter?
[20:10] <burg> thanks
[20:10] <Tophu> is there a way to completely uninstall all nvidia drivers so I can just do a fresh install?
[20:11] <jemark> VLC player is playing the BBC .ram Real Media 3&4 mostely now :)
[20:11] <ewook> !finch
[20:11] <|PaperTiger|> Does anyone here use the program Picaxe?
[20:11] <Ienorand> Tophu: what drivers do you have? "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-xxx" (xxx is version e.g. 173) might work?
[20:11] <MrElendig> Tophu: depends on how you installed them
[20:12] <ewook> Anyone else got a suggestion for a ncurses-based msn/jabber/im-client?
[20:12] <iceroot> !anyone | |PaperTiger|
[20:12] <Flannel> ewook: Try centerim
[20:12] <piglit> is it whise to install a 64 bits linux version (on a E7400 dual core cpu) or is it beter to install a 32 bits version ? the system has got 4 gigs of ram
[20:12] <adrian3> ewook: bitlbee + irssi
[20:12] <MrElendig> piglit: use 64bit, there is no real reason not ot
[20:12] <MrElendig> to*
[20:13] <ganymede> piglit, with 32 bits, you may not get all the RAM visible under the OS
[20:13] <ewook> !bitlbee
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: there a a lot of reasons not to install 64bit
[20:13] <ganymede> piglit, although you may not even need 4 gigs, depending on what you're going to do
[20:13] <MrElendig> iceroot: like what?
[20:13] <Jimi_Neutral> !pastebin
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: driver support for xample
[20:13] <Tophu> well I had the 180.29 then I was stupid and tried to install 177 through the "hardware drivers" then I got 180.44 to work (at least that what the 180.44 installer is telling me is already installed)
[20:13] <MrElendig> iceroot: what drivers?
[20:13] <piglit> MrElendig, someone told me that a lot of 64 bits software simply doesnt work
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: drivers for hardware like printers, webcams, usb-wifi
[20:14] <Tophu> but on boot I get a bunch of errors and only way I can get to desktop is to load into "low graphics" moe
[20:14] <piglit> i want to put windows in a window with vmware and so i ques i need the 4 gigs of ram
[20:14] <MrElendig> iceroot: 99.9% the same support on 64bit as 32bit
[20:14] <Tophu> @Ienorand let me try that purge thing thanks ^_^
[20:14] <MrElendig> piglit: only crappy apps, mostly
[20:14] <iceroot> MrElendig: .... lol
[20:14] <sebsebseb> piglit: 1GB is good for VM's 512MB probably ok, and I would recommend virtualbox
[20:14] <rhythmsou1> Does anyone know if there is correct drivers in ubuntu for the "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) "
[20:15] <MrElendig> rhythmsou1: xf86-video-intel
[20:15] <billenium> How do i setup a wireless network on my Laptop running Ubuntu 8.04 (8.04 was the only CD i had)
[20:15] <rhythmsou1> MrElendig: just use synaptics?
[20:15] <ewook> !centerim
[20:16] <piglit> sebsebseb, for what reason would you recomend virtualbox ?
[20:16] <billenium> Also, i do not think my wireless card is installed... Since when i go to System -> Admin -> Networks it cannot find anything.
[20:16] <n8tuser> billenium -> find out which chip your wifi nic card uses via  sudo lshw -C network
[20:16] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, it runs like a truck on steroids
[20:16] <billenium> okay thanks, ill try that.
[20:16] <n8tuser> billenium -> and post that in pastebin please
[20:16] <n8tuser> !who | billenium
[20:16] <MrElendig> iceroot: last time I saw a 32bit only driver, it was a printer driver, that also included spyware
[20:17] <brightjoker> hey how do you tell a program in Sessions to open in a specific desktop? I have a 2x2 wall want it in bottom right
[20:17] <piglit> iceroot, which drivers are hard ? i have got a 9400 nvidia card and P45 chipset btw
[20:17] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation, it'll run incredifast. My laptop has an XP boot time of 10 seconds, cold boot. VMware has it clocked at 45 seconds.
[20:17] <rhythmsou1> Ok I have ﻿﻿﻿xf86-video-intel installed already but lshw shows the display as "UNCLAIMED"?
[20:17] <billenium> n8tuser: i wasn't talking to anyone.
[20:17] <sebsebseb> piglit: ,because for a Windows virtualmachine that isn't on some server/network   it's better
[20:17] <kilj_> My computer is still shutting itself down after removing compiz from my system.  Anyone know how to stop the gpu from overheading in intrepid?  The fan is running at full speed.
[20:17] <sebsebseb> piglit: I mean if you just want to run WIndows inside Ubuntu for some apps, Virtualbox is the way to go
[20:17] <piglit> s3r3n1t7, does virtualbox suport usb etc?
[20:18] <n8tuser> billenium -> well, just make sure you prefix with a nick, so it (your message) does not get lost
[20:18] <sebsebseb> piglit: http://www.virtualbox.org  and  the binary for Linux hosts, for USB suppourt
[20:18] <MrElendig> piglit: the puel version does
[20:18] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, the latest (non-opensource) version from their site does IIRC. Current one from repo's doesn't.
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> Hey
[20:19] <sebsebseb> hi there
[20:19] <billenium> n8tuser: yes, i know, thanks.
[20:19] <kilj_> Hello.
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> Could you help me out? I've posted here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1113857
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> It's a brasero problem.
[20:19] <vigo> kilj: It depends on a lot of other factors, what CPU, what is it stepping, normal specs, laptop or desktop, bet here: http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=ac985caac6543dcad4d36df25b7a3954&t=922505&highlight=cpu+scaling
[20:20] <piglit> hhmmm i'll look in to it sometime in the virtualbox i rather first find out what version i need to download the 64 bits or the 32 bits version
[20:20] <ez> hello All
[20:20] <Tophu> WOOOT that worked thank you all
[20:20] <spaceBARbarian> hey i dont have access to internet on my ubuntu laptop, how can i download vpnc without using 'sudo apt-get' ?
[20:20] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, what does your OS run? 64 or 32bit? then get that version.
[20:20] <ganymede> piglit, i'd also recommend using virtual box's own repo for vbox packages, it seems more up to date last time i checked
[20:20] <sebsebseb> piglit: if your running 32bit ubuntu, 32bit virtualbox,  if your running 64bit ubuntu, 64bit virtualbox
[20:20] <sebsebseb> ganymede: yeah it is
[20:20] <|PaperTiger|> Doesn't anyone know how well the program Picaxe works on Linux?
[20:20] <sebsebseb> ganymede: and only OSE  in Ubuntu repo
[20:21] <bach> hey, does anyone know if you can get openoffice 3.0
[20:21] <bach> ?
[20:21] <iceroot> piglit: as i said, webcam, printer, usb-wifi, some notebook chipsets
[20:21] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: you're thinking about somethink like "dpkg -i" ?
[20:21] <rhythmsou1> everytime i play an avi file the whole PC locks up, no keyboard only mouse movement
[20:21] <sebsebseb> bach: yes from the PPA
[20:21] <ez> I'm having problems running third party apps. xbmc and google earth opens and then crashes immediatley
[20:21] <ez> any help?
[20:21] <bach> sebsebseb: PPA  = ?
[20:21] <iceroot> piglit: so there is not a 99,9% support for 64bit
[20:21] <sebsebseb> bach: or wait for 9.04 and you get it by default
[20:21] <piglit> well i have got new hardware a E7400 and in the weekend i can put it together p5q mainboard and 9400 nvidia videocard
[20:21] <ganymede> are you guys running vbox with the virtualization extensions? (AMD-V Intel VT-x) i'm running it without and i was just wondering how much better it can get with those virtualization extensions
[20:21] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, i have access to the internet only thru windows, i want to install VPNC on my ubuntu install, but i cant use apt-get
[20:22] <bach> sebsebseb: when 9.04 due for release/
[20:22] <sebsebseb> bach: oh  yeah the file systme stuff etc.   nevermind about 9.04 for now then
[20:22] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, a lot
[20:22] <kilj_> It is a desktop model.  It is not the CPU.  The CPU is running comfortable at 35 celsius.  The GPU is an ATI x1800 model.
[20:22] <billenium> I just downloaded a wireless network driver from Intel for linux. it is a .tgz file. How do i install it?
[20:22] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, i'm running xp VM's at a boot time of 10 seconds with the extensions.
[20:22] <kilj_> But the CPU is a Athlon 64 4000+
[20:22] <sebsebseb> bach: 8.10 uses Ext3,   9.04 has  Ext3 as an option.  and I don't want to go on about that again right now,  I already did awhile ago
[20:22] <piotr> YOO :)
[20:22] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, and can you test how it boots without the extensions?
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[20:23] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: download via windows the .deb packages, put them on a USB stick, and use the packages with "dpkg -i" in ubuntu
[20:23] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, sure, gimme a second. Last time i did it was like 40 seconds. 2 secs while i'll test that
[20:23] <bimberi_> bach: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[20:23] <sebsebseb> bimberi: yeah I was going to tell him to Google :d since I coudn't be bothered to get the link :d
[20:23] <bach> bimberi: thanks for the link.
[20:23] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, where can i go to get the deb ?
[20:23] <bimberi> np :)
[20:23] <sequethin> anyone have any luck connection evolution to an exchange 2007 server with the exchange connector?
[20:24] <vigo> rhymthsou1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=ac985caac6543dcad4d36df25b7a3954&t=843012&highlight=avi
[20:24] <spaceBARbarian> adrian, nvm i found it
[20:24] <adrian3> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/vpnc
[20:24]  * bimberi thinks ubottu needs a !ooo3
[20:24] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, will this include all the dependent packages ?
[20:24] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, 30 seconds without extensions.
[20:25] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, if you want i'll test it with again to confirm that 10 second claim.
[20:25] <baz> whats the proper way to share folder between ubuntu machines? When I go to sharing options it wants to install a windows service but there are no windows boxes...
[20:25] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: it's reccomended to get them also, because you may never know that packages are missing
[20:26] <LjL> !ooo > bimberi    (bimberi, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:26] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, it's fine. i believe you. but it makes me wonder whether it is only a boot time difference or also a normal-use difference
[20:26] <bach> bimberi: I am new to ubuntu (today) and so the packages etc is all still new
[20:26] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, each dependent has like 10 other dependents XD
[20:26] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, at any rate, the boot time difference is good enough for me to consider buying a newer processor
[20:26] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, yeh it does make that difference. Jst checked it again to be sure. Well my server also has a huge boost in speed with whatever it does.
[20:26] <n8tuser> baz -> look into sshfs
[20:26] <rhythmsou1> does anyone know what "UNCLAIMED" means in the lshw display section?
[20:26] <sebsebseb> bach: ok this covers most, but not all of the basics http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[20:26] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: I think only the libgcrypt and resolvconf are needed ...
[20:27] <bimberi> LjL: Fair enough ;)
[20:27] <s3r3n1t7> baz, samba isn't a windows option. It can use the windows way of sharing, but it's not the same.
[20:27] <LjL> bimberi: i can make an alias if you insist
[20:27] <LjL> !ooo3 is <alias> ooo
[20:27] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, meh maybe i should just wait and use apt-get on a wired connection :P
[20:27] <bach> sebsebseb: thanks i have it stumbled lol, take some time to read though and get a grip on things.
[20:27] <rhythmsou1> if it says "unclaimed" does it mean i havent got the right drivers installed
[20:27] <trent> Question:  I am trying to work with the program wireshark, however I cannot begin capturing because it lists no interfaces, I know this is incorrect as I have always been able to access the internet via wifi, I am right now, yet wireshark does not recognize my wireless card, I am running a Thinkpad T61, any ideas?
[20:27] <n8tuser> rhythmsou1 -> post in pastebin your results of sudo lshw -C network
[20:27] <baz> n8tuser, i want my girlfriend who will never use the command line to be able to share folders - by clicking, selecting share, etc.
[20:27] <sebsebseb> bach: ok no problem
[20:27] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: that way also works ;)
[20:28] <bimberi> LjL: No, that's fine imo.  ooo3 will date.
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> trent: use "sudo wireshark"
[20:28] <baz> s3r3n1t7, oh so its acceptable/effeicient to use it between linux boxes?
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: can i post my ubuntu forums link?
[20:28] <kilj_> My CPU is an Athlon 64 4000+ and the graphics card is an x1800 ATI Raedon.  The CPU is not overheating as it remains at 25-30 Degrees Celsius.  It is my GPU that is going upwards of 85+ Degrees Celsius.  All the dusk is cleaned out and it did not do this until I went from hardy to Intrepid.  Anyone have any ideas?
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001455#post7001455
[20:28] <n8tuser> rhythmsou1 -> im not going to wade through lots of text, a concise explanation would do
[20:28] <s3r3n1t7> baz, it's acceptable and easy to use in my opinion. However, i'd recommend going for SSHFS. A bit more setup, much more secure, and much easier to integrate for a longer period of time.
[20:29] <trent> rhythmsoul:  Thanks, running as root has the devices
[20:29] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: its right on the first post
[20:29] <Crazylink> i would like to know if its possible to set up you desktop to either shut down or go into hibernation mode after not being used for a set time
[20:29] <rhythmsou1> trent: yw
[20:29] <bach> kilj_: u seem to have similar spec as my pc what up.
[20:30] <billenium> I have the 2915ABG wireless network card thing on my computer... Is there any easy way to install a driver for it?
[20:30] <jonathan__> hello! can anyone tell me how to connect two mp4 videos to one? i didn't find anything with google...
[20:30] <Crazylink> i would like to know if its possible to set up you desktop to either shut down or go into hibernation mode after not being used for a set time
[20:30] <kilj_> I think it is around the proprietary drivers.  When i try to change the options in aticonfig it says it cannot go any further without it being initialized.
[20:30] <kaptengu> how can I list a users details from command prompt? (I want to do something like sudo userinfo)
[20:31] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> does it match what is shown on xdpyinfo ?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: yes  gshutdown
[20:31] <kilj_> Do you have any ideas on how to lower the overheating of the GPU?
[20:31] <Crazylink> sebsebseb: what does that command do?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: it's a program for what you want
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: install it
[20:31] <adac> Is it possible to install ubuntu from cd on an usb stick, so that I can start ubuntu after from stick?
[20:32] <ez> i have repositories added under software soureces"... for google earth and xbmc... they both starts and then immediately craches... any idea why?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: sudo apt-get install  gshutdown
[20:32] <jackoloco> change for nvidia... always works! always up2date drivers
[20:32] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: http://rhythmsoup.pastebin.com/d4a1dc5f9http://rhythmsoup.pastebin.com/d4a1dc5f9
[20:32] <Crazylink> sebsebseb: installing now
[20:33] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> i dont  know then, what Unclaimed meant
[20:33] <Crazylink> i got it, i think this will do sebsebseb thank you very much
[20:33] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: any luck ?
[20:34] <bach> sebsebseb: bimberi : not sure which package to download are you able to help
[20:34] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: whats that
[20:34] <ez> on xbmc i get error message "cannot find mode 0x3d is this an Ubuntu problem or xbmc?
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: yep no problem, and then set up a time to shut down yeah
[20:34] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: whats that xdpyinfo
[20:34] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> man xdpyinfo
[20:34] <coreyman> How do I get my mx620 logitech cordless mouse working on linux
[20:34] <vigo> kilj: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[20:34] <Juhaz> coreyman, you plug it in.
[20:35] <Juhaz> the receiver, that is.
[20:35] <coreyman> Juhaz thanks for being a smartass
[20:35] <coreyman> It doesn't work.
[20:35] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, if it's usb, you do plug it in. If that doesn't make it work, then tell us what it does/doesn't, post what dmesg says about it, check syslog etc ...
[20:35] <coreyman> ok
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> hello!
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> can i ask questions here?
[20:36] <Dreamglider> Hello
[20:36] <Dreamglider> !ask
[20:36] <adrian3> h4ck3rs0nly: h3110 :))
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> cool
[20:37] <chuckh1958> Is there a way to search for new packages added to the repositories after a certain date?
[20:37] <h4ck3rs0nly> sorry i dont know
[20:37] <bach> I would like to download the latest version of oo, been give this link https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa but having problems with the right package.
[20:37] <LjL> chuckh1958: uhm, i don't think so... but if you're after a way to check for "new" packages, aptitude can do that
[20:38] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 here is my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/143046/
[20:38] <chrislsp> pleeease someone who use ipod with ubuntu
[20:38] <h4ck3rs0nly> is there a way to put that "user loggen on thing" off?
[20:38] <Dreamglider> bach: you can get the latest OOo from http://www.openoffice.org/
[20:38] <orifice_work> I'm doing a manual install from a livecd but I'm not sure where I can install grub stage1,stage2 etc
[20:38] <Bacon> I need some help with auth.log, apparently none of my SSH attempts are being logged
[20:39] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: you can set Ubuntu toautologin
[20:39] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: you can set Ubuntu to autologin *
[20:39] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, that's with the receiver plugged in? Does it blink any lights or something? is the mouse on? Are the batteries charged?
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> no i mean with this here
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> * max|- heeft verlaten (No route to host)
[20:39] <bach> Dreamglider: how would you go about installing the download.
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> that stuff here
[20:39] <progenitus> Hello everyone
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> all the time
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> hello
[20:39] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 I am not a retard.
[20:39] <chrislsp> pleeease someone who use ipod with ubuntu?
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> i can a little
[20:40] <LjL> !attitude | coreyman
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> ryhtmbox supports it
[20:40] <sebsebseb> !ipod
[20:40] <Bacon> !auth.log
[20:40] <Bacon> ...
[20:40] <coreyman> !attitude | s3r3n1ty
[20:40] <LjL> bach: i don't think you'll have to install any particular package - just add that PPA repository, then sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <progenitus> I have trouble with modules. I added a module (ssb) to the blacklist list, and I am trying to get the wl module to load at boot. So I added it to the /modules config file. It seems like both keep loading at boottime. I have to rmmod them manualy then modprobe wl to get my wireless working. Any idea? Running Jaunty.
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> ubuntu rocks
[20:41] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, thank you.
[20:41] <bach> when u know how it works ;-)
[20:41] <eterna1> i like ljl he is a normal user then boom a operator
[20:41] <LjL> bach: it's easy - do you see those two lines at the  https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa  page?
[20:41] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: if auto login is good enough have a look at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[20:41] <h4ck3rs0nly> yeah but still
[20:41] <Bacon> I cannot get auth.log to register any failed ssh attempts...
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> sorry but im not english, i dont ask it well
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> i mean
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> here
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> * vonkleist heeft verlaten (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> * LSD200 (n=LSD200__@smpclough.plus.com) is binnengekomen bij #ubuntu
[20:42] <FloodBot1> h4ck3rs0nly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <coreyman> Can someone help me get my MX620 Logitech mouse working properly with ubuntu, please no "is it plugged in answers".
[20:42] <bach> LjL yeah
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> that stuff here
[20:42] <LjL> bach: open your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and add those two lines to it
[20:42] <LjL> bach: (gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list)
[20:42] <randum_user> coreyman: is it plugged in?
[20:42] <randum_user> Sorry, could not resist it...
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> are those red lines bots?
[20:43] <LjL> bach: when you're done, save it, and then issue "sudo apt-get update". then you should see an icon saying there are updated packages available
[20:43] <progenitus> Anyone have an idea...?
[20:43] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, the questions i asked you earlier are valid questions. 9 out of 10 times a user calls me telling me their mouse isn't working, it's one of the issues i gave you a question for earlier.
[20:43] <norek> hello all
[20:43] <UbuntuCop> LjL do you get paid for giving support ?
[20:43] <h4ck3rs0nly> hello
[20:44] <chrislsp> pleeease someone who use ipod with ubuntu?
[20:44] <LjL> !ot | UbuntuCop
[20:44] <h4ck3rs0nly> i do
[20:44] <ashleyw_> Hey does anyone know how I can skip low-graphic mode? I wanna boot my box with no head, but still be able to vnc in?
[20:44] <peter_> ahoj
[20:44] <h4ck3rs0nly> i use ryhtmbox
[20:44] <coreyman> well s3r3n1ty it is magically working now >.>
[20:44] <eterna1> !ipod | chrislsp
[20:44] <coreyman> s3r3n1ty it has been plugged in at leas 10 minutes not working.
[20:44] <bach> LjL done nothign happending
[20:44] <LjL> bach: ok, then type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:45] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, use tab, last letter is a 7 not a y. Have fun with your mouse and have a nice day.
[20:45] <n0tch2k> chrislsp: gtkPod is great for ipod sync :D
[20:45] <h4ck3rs0nly> yeah that to
[20:45] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 i would if pidgin supported that.
[20:45] <bach> LjL: returned 0
[20:45] <eterna1> what is with ubuntu and cutting out on internet every 10 mins
[20:45] <Guest28890> ahoj ludia ako sa dari
[20:45] <randum_user> coreyman: get xchat.
[20:45] <LjL> bach: uh?
[20:45] <bittin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090402  if somone cares
[20:46] <LjL> !sk | Guest28890
[20:46] <h4ck3rs0nly> ?
[20:46] <randum_user> coreyman: irssi is also a good client.
[20:46] <chrislsp> my friends..at the begging i was able to synch...but now seems that everything is lost
[20:46] <chrislsp> cant see my music
[20:46] <LjL> bittin: better to post it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, find a better client that supports it. Saves lots of typing and typo's.
[20:46] <chrislsp> only through explorer
[20:46] <chrislsp> i am in panic
[20:46] <sebsebseb> LjL: I think he is pretty new to  Ubuntu,  so  probably best not to assume that bach can do anything yet
[20:46] <ez> I have the following error messaged in the logs for XBMC "cant open source file </usr/share/xbmc/userdata/Lircmap.xml" anyone know how to fix this
[20:46] <chrislsp> cant find something on google
[20:46] <h4ck3rs0nly> easy chris.. take a deep breath
[20:46] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 I sacrifice that for having only one client for every messenger.
[20:47] <De-Mentor> s3r3n1t7, a client that supports what?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> bach: adding a ppa repo is pretty easy you can do it graphicalley
[20:47] <bach> sebsebseb: thanks for that but yr prob right
[20:47] <^paradox^> someone i really need some 1 on 1 help syncing my palm z22. ive tried jpilot now still cant sync it. assist please?
[20:47] <LjL> bach, i don't know what you mean by "returned 0"
[20:47] <s3r3n1t7> De-Mentor, tab completion.
[20:47] <De-Mentor> s3r3n1t7, oh ya xchat is great
[20:47] <Guest28890> ok
[20:48] <bach> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143052/ returned from the last command u gave.
[20:48] <Zedde> Hello, any ideas if my FF frezz when I open a flash movie ( like youtube)
[20:48] <chrislsp> "take a deep breath" whould this help :P ??!!!!
[20:48] <OscarTgrouch> from the command line how do i see a files size
[20:48] <LjL> bach: uhm, ok, are you sure you haven't got ooo3 already installed in earlier attempts without noticing? try starting it and see :o
[20:48] <WebGuest2> trying to use linux on my network. i'm running samba on a mac. my xp machine can browse and open files fine, however, ubuntu is finding it hard going, taking over 30 seconds to display a directory listing and on ocassions, hanging completely. any ideas?
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Zedde: many tabs open when doing that?
[20:49] <LjL> OscarTgrouch: ls -l
[20:49] <s3r3n1t7> chrislsp, ok here it comes ... take a deep breath and try a reboot (seems to do miracles whenever it comes to syncing)
[20:49] <OscarTgrouch> thanks
[20:49] <chrislsp> did that
[20:49] <chrislsp> !!
[20:49] <bach> LjL that would be funny, it not under office on the applications menu to start
[20:49] <chrislsp> nothing happened
[20:49] <Zedde> sebsebseb: just one ( tested right now )
[20:49] <^paradox^> i need my palm to help fulfill my duties. anyone?
[20:49] <LjL> bach: uh, really? ok, try typing "oowriter" in a terminal
  try PyNeighborhood
[20:50] <LjL> !palm
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Zedde: ok  and  Flash and Firefox can = crash.  how much RAM do you have?
[20:50] <bach> LjL: following returned http://paste.ubuntu.com/143053/
[20:50] <NimbleRabit> Does anyone here have any experience with TwinView, the dual monitor setup from nvidia?  I'm having problems getting it to keep my configuration through restart.
[20:50] <Zedde> sebsebseb: everytime ?
[20:51] <Zedde> sebsebseb: it starts to load but frezz up
[20:51] <Zedde> sebsebseb: 2gig
[20:51] <s3r3n1t7> NimbleRabit, there's a button to save the config to your xorg.conf file. Remember to save it.
[20:51] <LjL> bach: type "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org"
[20:51] <sebsebseb> Zedde: yeah it's mainly to do with Firefox, so you can  try  a flash alternative, or another browser
[20:51] <NimbleRabit> s3r3n1t7: now that you point it out, it's so obvious T_T
[20:51] <NimbleRabit> thanks
[20:51] <s3r3n1t7> NimbleRabit, i made that mistake myself. Spend an hour figuring it out.
[20:52] <bach> LjL: installing
[20:52] <bach> LjL: this will install the earlier version ?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Zeeded: most people are ok with Flash and FIrefox, but some of us aren't
[20:52] <Zeeded> sebsebseb; Huh?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Zedde: messaged wrong guy again
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Zeeded: wrong guy
[20:53] <Zeeded> lol np
[20:53] <the10nitro> If I swap 2 paragraphs in a text doc, will GNU diff recognize that they are the same, but in a different order, or will it just say that one paragraph was removed, and another was added?
[20:53] <Zedde> sebsebseb: hehe
[20:53] <_404> there is a program called Burn to the Brim for Windows that takes a large set of files and folders and optimally arranges them so they take up all the space on one CD. There is a linux version that I can't for the life of me remember. Does anyone know the name?
[20:53] <bach> LjL: 2.4 installed, should I now try that update comand from earlier.
[20:53] <bach> ?
[20:53] <NimbleRabit> one other TwinView question, is there a way to make alt+tab only show programs in the monitor I initiate it from?
[20:53] <orifice_work> the10nitro: the latter
[20:53] <h4ck3rs0nly> is there a way to install ubuntu 9.04 with EXT4 besides Window4$?
[20:53] <the10nitro> ﻿orifice_work: thanks
[20:53] <WebGuest2> n0tch2k, does this by-pass the normal file manager?
[20:54] <Zedde> sebsebseb: okay , hmm I never liked FF, I'm in love with chrome but there is no linux version out
[20:54] <Zedde> sebsebseb: tips on a good browser ?
[20:54] <h4ck3rs0nly> webguest, was thet for me?
[20:54] <ewook> Zedde: links / lynx ? :)
[20:54] <frostburn> anyone ever successfully pair two ubuntu bluetooth devices?
[20:54] <n0tch2k> WebGuest2: not shure... but always worked for me (win+mac+linux)^^
[20:54] <optical> Hello all, I was trying to apt-get a few packages and somehow something is severely wrong now..  even the most simplest of packages I try to install is trying to add/remove all kinds of crazy system utilities, and I keep getting a warning every single time.  Can someone see this:  http://pastebin.com/d43e6d674
[20:54] <_404> sebsebseb has already given me a few suggestions. Epiphany is working out great
[20:54] <Zedde> ewook: if I remember correct lynx is a text only browser
[20:54] <WebGuest2> n0tch2k, thanks ... will look into it :)
[20:54] <LjL> bach: well, no, that should have got you 3.0 installed
[20:55] <bach> nop
[20:55] <ewook> Zedde: it is, but you never specified the type :p
[20:55] <dudette> is there a way to delete a file in gnome from the desktop without moving it to the trash can first?
[20:55] <bach> LjL: nope
[20:55] <n0tch2k> WebGuest np :)
[20:55] <h4ck3rs0nly> is there a way to install ubuntu 9.04 with EXT4 besides Window4$?
[20:55] <Zedde> ewook: hehe true
[20:55] <SkyBR> how can I re-enable pidgin tray icon in the Jaunty Beta?
[20:55] <s3r3n1t7> SkyBR, it's in the preferences.
[20:55] <Nevis> My firefox freezes for ~10 sec whenever I try to save or open a file, and some other applications display this behaviour too. What could be the reason?
[20:56] <LjL> bach: are you sure you added the repository properly? pastebin the current contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[20:56] <Zedde> ewook: need to be able to play flash
[20:56] <h4ck3rs0nly> is there a way to install ubuntu 9.04 with EXT4 besides Window$?
[20:56] <SkyBR> s3r3n1t7,  i didnt found that, i'll look again
[20:56] <h4ck3rs0nly> install ubuntu restricted extras
[20:56] <^paradox^> if theres a channel more specific to my issue please point me to it. ubuntu is all i have installed on my pc and therefor i must make my palm z22 work with it
[20:56] <h4ck3rs0nly> always works for me
[20:56] <NoobKiller> SkyBR =D
[20:56] <mbeierl> Nevis: do you notice this "freeze" for 10s whenever you go to access a network resource?
[20:56] <bach> ljl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143056/
[20:57] <mbeierl> Nevis: for example: try pinging a reachable host on the network like ping google.com
[20:57] <Ienorand> h4ck3rs0nly: that's just a normal dual-boot right: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:57] <Zedde> I tried to download flash from adobe's page ver 10 but I get a error that it's a i386 pkg
[20:57] <h4ck3rs0nly> Ienorand> thats with EXT3 right?
[20:57] <^paradox^> on any other day id be fine with reading, researching. today im very busy thats why im asking for 1 on 1 help
[20:57] <h4ck3rs0nly> standart?
[20:57] <LjL> bach: ugh, that sources.list is *completely* messed up (the ooo3 repositories are the only right thing in it, basically()
[20:57] <dudette> is there a way to delete a file in gnome from the desktop without moving it to the trash can first?
[20:57] <Ienorand> h4ck3rs0nly: Also #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[20:57] <LjL> bach: i'll give you a brand new sources.list
[20:57] <SkyBR> s3r3n1t7, LoL.. if someone ask you, i never did that question...
[20:57] <Thomas___> Hi everybody
[20:57] <Thomas___>  
[20:57] <Thomas___> I got a problem with my Gnome 2.26 running on a Acer Aspire 5710Z. While it's not a problem to reduce the brightness of the screen with the shortcuts on the keyboard, I can't increase it... is there a simple solution? Tried to find one on the internet, but without succes...
[20:57] <FloodBot1> Thomas___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <s3r3n1t7> h4ck3rs0nly, a dualboot between windows and ubuntu is just a dualboot. How you install ubuntu is up to ubuntu specifics, but it doesn't change how to install a dual boot.
[20:58] <s3r3n1t7> SkyBR, np.
[20:58] <bach> ljl: hows that i just installed it off a ubuntu live CD
[20:58] <LjL> bach: i don't know, but it's messed up
[20:58] <h4ck3rs0nly> i got a dual boot with wubi
[20:58] <h4ck3rs0nly> with ext3
[20:58] <Jordan_U> Zedde, Just install flashplugin-nonfree via apt / synaptic, IIRC it should set things up properly for 64 bit
[20:59] <fx3> hi guys, im having problems installing talkd on intrepid. here is my errors im getting: http://rafb.net/p/mrJ7d818.html
[20:59] <bach> LjL: could this fry my machine?
[20:59] <LjL> bach: ... no.
[20:59] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: you still around?  I hope it wasn't me that recommended Jaunty.. shouldn't have been anyway.. good for a virtual machine but not a fresh install.
[20:59] <antonio_> hola a todos, alguien seria tan amable pasarme el enlace para descargar un iso dubuntu alternate
[20:59] <scunizi> !es | antonio_
[20:59] <this_is_nwo> Hello i was wondering how can i theme my ubuntu to look like this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=95885&file1=95885-1.jpg&file2=95885-2.jpg&file3=95885-3.jpg&name=Yakano+-Colors-
[21:00] <Thomas___> I got a problem with my Gnome 2.26 running on a Acer Aspire 5710Z. While it's not a problem to reduce the brightness of the screen with the shortcuts on the keyboard, I can't increase it... is there a simple solution? Tried to find one on the internet, but without succes...
[21:00] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, may i ask if you checked what lsb_release would give?
[21:00] <Zedde> Jordan_U: thanks
[21:00] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: it's something worth asking
[21:00] <LjL> bach: pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" please
[21:00] <pubnum> I need some help with auth.log
[21:00] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, i just noticed that his normal entries have no versions in there, and only the manually added ones have jaunty.
[21:01] <scunizi> this_is_nwo: that is kde or kubuntu.. if you installed ubuntu then you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then just change sessions on the user name login screen
[21:01] <bach> LjL: terminal command ?
[21:01] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: the normal entries have intrepid, i thought?
[21:01] <LjL> bach: yes, of course
[21:01] <pubnum> !offtopic
[21:01] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, ah yeh. Wait, why do the PPA ones have jaunty then?
[21:01] <scunizi> this_is_nwo: there are also other mod's that have been done.. they've added either AWN or Ciaro Dock to it.. and some stuff on the side.
[21:02] <Zedde> Jordan_U: now flash video at all now :(
[21:02] <LjL> s3r3n1t7: well, because he used the wrong ones - but that's unlikely to be his main problem
[21:02] <bach> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143062/
[21:02] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, explains.
[21:02] <this_is_nwo> scunizi: hey what if i want to skin my ubuntu to a gnome based theme, what i need to do then
[21:02] <Luan> SkyBR, =p
[21:02] <LjL> bach: ok, now use this as your new sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/143059/
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Zedde, I have to leave soon, but was there any error installing the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[21:02] <SkyBR> Luan, ae
[21:03] <Nevis> PING google.com (74.125.67.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
[21:03] <Nevis> 64 bytes from gw-in-f100.google.com (74.125.67.100): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=236 ms
[21:03] <LjL> bach: after saving it, do "sudo apt-get update", and then try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:03] <Zedde> Jordan_U: not that I could see and FF show's that it has a ver 10 plugin of flash
[21:04] <Nevis> I don't think it's network related, it's when I try to save a file or upload a file to gmail. It's not specific to firefox, I think.
[21:04] <scunizi> !theme
[21:04] <OscarTgrouch> what is the best way to burn a dvd in umbuntu server?
[21:04] <scunizi> this_is_nwo: look at the links that ubottu just gave
[21:04]  * aumis is trying a test msg.
[21:04] <this_is_nwo> thanks
[21:04] <OscarTgrouch> i am not burning th ubuntu serer iso.  just files
[21:05] <bach> LjL: it is installing some some thing.
[21:05] <bach> LjL: openoffice is one of them
[21:05] <NimbleRabit> I'm using Compiz and I can't figure out how to make my alt tab not have those annoying window previews, I've been looking through all these settings for a long time now
[21:05] <LjL> bach: good
[21:06] <JordiGH> I've got a server running Feisty.
[21:06] <JordiGH> Am I fucked? :-(
[21:06] <mbeierl> Nevis: how long did it take before the pressing enter on the ping command and the first ping result to come back?
[21:06] <bach> LjL: seems very strange.
[21:06] <mbeierl> Nevis: was it quick or was there a lag?
[21:06] <h4ck3rs0nly> 8.04 seems to see my relative old ATI graphics card, but 8.10 and 9.04 doesnt    any suggestions?
[21:06] <TheCheeks> can anyone help me with an rTorrent on_finish script?
[21:06] <LjL> !language | JordiGH
[21:06] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me with vpnc configuration
[21:06] <LjL> JordiGH: no, but you're advised to upgrade
[21:07] <LjL> !upgrade > JordiGH    (JordiGH, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:07] <^paradox^> i gotta go. ill be back later for some help syncing palm z22 later
[21:07] <bach> LjL: i gtg for a bit thanks for yr help again.
[21:07] <h4ck3rs0nly> need some help with my graphics card >
[21:08] <TheCheeks> What do you use when writing a script to pull up a file name? Trying to get rTorrent to twitter when its done with a torrent...
[21:08] <h4ck3rs0nly> need some help with my graphics card > please private chat me
[21:08] <OmniDrink> Does anyone know why Banshee closes why I try to plug in my Zen?
[21:08] <guntbert> TheCheeks: are you sure that is  a case for ubuntu support?
[21:08] <Ejlan> no :D
[21:09] <TheCheeks> Where would you suggest I take it? Got no help from 2 other forums
[21:09] <fx3> so, anyone heard of talkd ?
[21:09] <s3r3n1t7> OmniDrink, run it from terminal and see if it gives anything. That's my thoughts, might want to add that to the question.
[21:09] <h4ck3rs0nly>  need some help with my graphics card > please private chat me
[21:09] <TheCheeks> wait rtorrent has an irc haha. Thanks guys, later!
[21:10] <h4ck3rs0nly> need some help with my graphics card > please private chat me
[21:10] <guntbert> TheCheeks: I don't know, but you *could* get a pointer in #ubuntu-offtopic (these are called "channels" here not forums, btw)
[21:10] <spaceBARbarian> is there a way to use a pcf file with vpnc ?
[21:10] <mbeierl> h4ck3rs0nly: what ATI card and has it now been dropped by ATI themselves and gone into legacy?
[21:11] <OmniDrink> How do I run Banshee from the terminal?
[21:11] <s3r3n1t7> OmniDrink, i'm thinking just banshee.
[21:11] <h4ck3rs0nly> radeon 9500 PRO / 9700
[21:12] <Nevis> no lag
[21:12] <Nevis> mbeierl: it happens with other apps as well. the active window greys out, and I wait.
[21:12] <Nevis> do you want to see a screenshot?
[21:12] <mbeierl> Nevis: if it greys out, then the window has been determined to be "unresponsive" for a bit
[21:13] <mbeierl> Nevis: is your hard drive swapping a lot while this happens?
[21:14] <AMDfanboy> hi, i want to recieve a fax.  can i plug the phone cable into my laptop and use some software to get ubuntu to answer the phone and get the fax?
[21:15] <coreyman> Hi all, where can I view sound devices and such? I'm trying to get my mic working.
[21:16] <Nevis> not that I notice, but it's quiet.
[21:16] <Nevis> should I check the swap usage?
[21:16] <guntbert> AMDfanboy: I don't think that will be possible - you will need a fax modem I'm afraid - but maybe there is something to replace a modem...
[21:17] <mbeierl> Nevis: yes
[21:17] <mbeierl> Nevis: try running 'top'
[21:17] <AMDfanboy> guntbert: maybe my laptop has a fax modem?  it has modem for sure, i'll check
[21:17] <mbeierl> and while that is running, hit "m" to sort by memory usage
[21:18] <Nevis> Cpu(s): 76.4%us, 22.9%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
[21:18] <Nevis> Mem:    967984k total,   946428k used,    21556k free,    27144k buffers
[21:18] <Nevis> Swap:  3943948k total,   460240k used,  3483708k free,   204148k cached
[21:18] <coreyman> How can I test my mic in ubuntu
[21:18] <slicker> yeah you are out of RAM nevis
[21:19] <amigamia> how do you start virtual  box in ubuntu?
[21:19] <amigamia> what is the command/
[21:19] <slicker> Nevis: and deep into swap
[21:19] <Nevis> it says firefox is using 31% of the memory.
[21:19] <s3r3n1t7> amigamia, applications, accecoires, virtualbox
[21:19] <mxttie> hi, is an atom processor a hard requirement for running ubuntu netbook remix?
[21:19] <s3r3n1t7> amigamia, CLI method is just virtualbox
[21:19] <Nevis> where's that pastebin again?
[21:19] <s3r3n1t7> !paste
[21:19] <ActionParsnip1> !paste
[21:19] <amigamia> it isnt there in that pass
[21:19] <amigamia> path
[21:20] <amigamia> s3r3n1t7 it isnt there in that path
[21:21] <s3r3n1t7> amigamia, what version of ubuntu do you use? It should be under one of the application menu's. Mine's under accesoires thingy.
[21:21] <guntbert> amigamia: I have it in applications/systemTools/sun xvm
[21:21] <Nevis> ok, yeah, that's true. how do I prevent this from happening? Or I should just reboot?
[21:21] <Nevis> <blush<
[21:21] <Ropechoborra> amigamia, locate virtualbox
[21:21] <amigamia> what command would i use?
[21:22] <blunder> can the ubuntu server use a sound card?
[21:22] <Ropechoborra> amigamia, are you looking for virtualbox right?
[21:22] <Ropechoborra> Then tipe in a terminal ' locate virtualbox '
[21:23] <amigamia> yes for virtualbox
[21:23] <Med> when I move my windows around my desktop I cannot surpass the top Menu
[21:23] <lowlycoder> is there an x command I can run to get my sreen resolution?
[21:24] <lowlycoder> *is there a _command line_ program I can run to get my screen resolution*
[21:24] <Med> how can I let windows go throught windows limit?
[21:24] <mbeierl> Nevis: just don't open so many programs at once?
[21:24] <mbeierl> Nevis: it seems odd though that you would be running out of memory with 1g total
[21:24] <Med> not window limit but desktop limits...
[21:25] <amigamia> ahh i just compiled it now it is installing
[21:25] <amigamia> command was VirtualBox
[21:25] <amigamia> thanks
[21:25] <Ropechoborra> :)
[21:25] <Nevis> I know. I'm only runing FF and thunderbird.
[21:25] <Nevis> and Xchat.
[21:25] <Nevis> and terminal and system monitor and nautilus
[21:25] <Nevis> sorry about the many <CR>s.
[21:25] <mbeierl> Nevis: not a problem :)
[21:26] <wxw> dear unser
[21:26] <guntbert> lowlycoder: xrandr should help
[21:26] <Nevis> I'll reboot and see how we go.
[21:26] <wxw> i am polish
[21:26] <mbeierl> Nevis: do you have a lot of desktop effects enabled?
[21:26] <guntbert> !pl | wxw
[21:26] <wxw> was is das
[21:27] <wxw> @ubottu dziekx
[21:28] <Med> guys help me
[21:28] <xenophed> hey a question about  the X bug
[21:29] <akaradag> hi people, i'm using ubuntu 8.10. And i'm researching entropy_avail , does anyone know it?
[21:29] <Med> i cannot move the windows and pass the top menu
[21:29] <Med> the top menu block my windows of going more up
[21:29] <guntbert> xenophed: what X bug?
[21:29] <hhh2> hi, i need to compile midori browser 0.1.5 in xubuntu hardy from a tar.bz2 archive ,please tell me which commands shoud i use..
[21:29] <squidly> anyone know how I can add a custom application to my ufw config?
[21:29] <`Borg`> ee is not in the main repository?
[21:30] <MrElendig> Med: right click, preferences
[21:30] <waseem57> how do I make a package to be tracked for updation and stuff with apt(itude) which I have installed from source?
[21:30] <`Borg`> which repository is it in?
[21:30]  * mbeierl falls asleep
[21:30] <NoTiTo> low again
[21:30] <Picassotamus> Med: KDE, gnome, or? Whaut ubuntu version?
[21:30] <MrElendig> hhh2: none, you should find a .deb for it instead
[21:30] <xenophed> after setting keyboard window manager won't respond
[21:30] <hhh2> where?
[21:30] <hhh2> i don't find
[21:30] <NoTiTo> so my install is done but now I'm strugling with mod)rewrite
[21:30] <guntbert> !info midori | hhh2
[21:31] <Med> ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[21:31] <NoTiTo> how do I enable mod_rewrite on ubuntu810 + apache2 - I used the ubuntu LAPM
[21:31] <hhh2> i have hardy heron
[21:31] <xenophed> yey
[21:31] <NoTiTo> !lamp
[21:31] <`Borg`> anyone? does it go by a different name in the repository? easy-editor-1.xx.deb perhaps?
[21:32] <yowshi> anyonehere know anything about wine?
[21:32] <xenophed> research tells me don't matter just gl
[21:32] <Picassotamus> !anyone: yowshi
[21:32] <Picassotamus> oops
[21:32] <Picassotamus> !anyone
[21:32] <guntbert> hhh2: midori is in the universe repo for hardy too
[21:32] <yowshi> Picassotamus: thats not goint to help anyway
[21:32] <scunizi> `Borg`: what are you looking for?
[21:33] <guntbert> hhh2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/midori
[21:33] <yowshi> Picassotamus: i broke wine somehpow and noone seems to be able tpo figure out how to fix it in winehq
[21:33] <`Borg`> scunizi, I'm trying to find the ee editor but it's not avail straight through apt-get install ee
[21:33] <hhh2> yes 0.0.17 version,  i need 0.1.5. version
[21:33] <yowshi> Picassotamus: then i try to compoensate and install windows on another partition and that fails\
[21:34] <patrlck> hi
[21:34] <guntbert> hhh2: ah I see ...
[21:34] <patrlck> I have installed ubuntu on my laptop earlier and for some reason after a little while the stop will go full speed and won't slow down ever even when put in sleep mode
[21:34] <guntbert> !compile | hhh2
[21:34] <patrlck> the *fan
[21:35] <scunizi> `Borg`: never heard of that one.. searching synaptic and found nothing for ee but did for other editors starting with e.. like e3.. what's special about that one?
[21:35] <hhh2> too difficult
[21:35] <Picassotamus> yowshi: so what is the issue?
[21:35] <grkblood13> hey, i just port forward my ssh port and i tried to log in via putty on another local pc but i get a network error, do yall know what might be wrong?
[21:36] <scunizi> yowshi: window likes to be installed first and on the beginning part of the first drive..
[21:36] <yowshi> Picassotamus: with wine or windows? wine wont access the dvd drive and windows womnt boot.
[21:36] <s3r3n1t7> grkblood13, u changed the ssh settings? Gotta reboot the ssh server then.
[21:36] <yowshi> scunizi: yeah well i dont care what it likes that spot is unavilable
[21:36] <`Borg`> scunizi, it is actually called Easy Editor (abbrev. is ee for package usually). it is an easy to use editor for novices mostly. setting it up for a fellow through his shell but i just can't find it anywhere. I know it exists though.
[21:37] <grkblood13> i didnt change any settings locally, i changed it through my gateway
[21:37] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ?
[21:37] <scunizi> yowshi: then load up virtual box and install it there for a vm..
[21:37] <grkblood13> router gateway
[21:37] <yowshi> scunizi: cant play games on vmwarew
[21:37] <scunizi> pity
[21:37] <Picassotamus> yowshi: well, not gonna help you w/ windows, but what do you mean by 'won't acess"? cant find it, or no permissions
[21:38] <yowshi> Picassotamus: by wont access i meant wont even try to load the dvd drive
[21:38] <scunizi> `Borg`: well an easy editor intsalled already is gedit or nano ... gedit is gui related and nano is cli.. both easy to use
[21:38] <yowshi> Picassotamus: no errors or anything it just doesnt work
[21:38] <guntbert> grkblood13: you need *not* reboot! just restart the ssh server maybe
[21:38] <Picassotamus> yowshi: That doesn't make sense... have you tried wine in verbose mode?
[21:38] <grkblood13> ahh, sshd wasnt installed
[21:39] <yowshi> Picassotamus: no i dont know what the command addon for it is
[21:39] <grkblood13> ok its working now
[21:40] <grkblood13> next question, cna i use putty for audio
[21:40] <`Borg`> scunizi, nano isn't installed, but I guess I can install it. I'd prefer ee though for this fellow cause where it's being installed isn't GUI it's all CLI & he's a bit new so ee is perfect for him.
[21:40] <Justanick> hi again. I rebooted, still same. top gives: Mem:    967984k total,   942516k used,    25468k free,    74592k buffers. Also, says "2 users", but afaik I'm the only guy logged in. Is that normal?
[21:40] <Justanick> What's also wierd is that system-monitor claims only 530MB of ram are used.
[21:40] <patrlck> Does anyone know what control the cpu speed?
[21:40] <grkblood13> im trying to set this up so i can stream a radioshwo from work thats blocked
[21:40] <patrlck> the fan speed I mean.
[21:40] <Justanick> Swap almost empty, but filling up. (2MB)
[21:40] <Picassotamus> yowshi: Check out 'man wine' but i believe it is wine-dbg
[21:40] <scunizi> `Borg`: nano is cli and should be installed .. at least it is on the desktop version and most server versions I've used.. but easy enough to do..
[21:41] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me configure my laptop's sound buttons to control the sound on unbuntu ?
[21:42] <yowshi> Picassotamus:  http://pastebin.ca/1380275 here is what wine spits out
[21:42] <bach> LjL: all done oo 3.0 installed thanks for your help
[21:42] <bach> signing off.
[21:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> anyone knowledgable on the EncryptFS ? when I logout from the local terminal, I get a message that says it wants to umount the ~/Private folder. is that correct?
[21:43] <spaceBARbarian> can someone help me configure my laptop's sound buttons to control the sound on unbuntu ?
[21:44] <qsi> Hi, are there any people experienced with ubuntu on mac mini?
[21:44] <guntbert> !anyone | qsi
[21:45] <Picassotamus> yowshi: What command are you running? Are you trying to install something from a dvd?
[21:46] <qsi> then can you run just ubuntu on a mac mini without preserving macosx & bootcamp
[21:47] <yowshi> Picassotamus: run a game it needs the dvd to launc so right now it doesnt get past the splash screenb. te game is kanes wrath
[21:47] <s3r3n1t7> yowshi, run winecfg, add a drive to your dvd drive and run the game from there
[21:47] <patrlck> On my laptop using Ubuntu the fan is always running at the same speed even when the laptop is sleeping. Everything is working fine under Windows. Does anyone have a clue how to debug this? I have googled and can't find an answer to my problem.
[21:47] <yowshi> s3r3n1t7: i tried that already
[21:48] <spaceBARbarian> patrlck: what kind of laptop ?
[21:48] <commander_> i see ubuntu 9.04 beta is out..did anyone downloaded it?
[21:48] <Ymse> I'm having problem getting Ubuntu computers to log on to a WEP secured WLAN...
[21:48] <patrlck> spaceBARbarian,  toshiba satellite
[21:48] <s3r3n1t7> !wep | Ymse
[21:48] <guntbert> !jaunty | commander_
[21:49] <spaceBARbarian> patrlck: i had that problem with my dell, fans stayed off no matter what, i am lm-sensors to control them now
[21:49] <coreyman> how do i get the open containing folder button on firefox working
[21:49] <Dreamglider> !ask | hans
[21:49] <Picassotamus> yowshi: Have you checked wine's appdb to see if others have had success w/ that?
[21:49] <patrlck> spaceBARbarian,  ok thanks I'll google that
[21:51] <solexious> When doing a apt-get update I get this, http://pastebin.com/m7e9ef809 how can I fix it?
[21:51] <yowshi> Picassotamus: i couldnt find this in any bugs i tried gpoing to the winehq irc site no luck there
[21:51] <Repentinus> I have a problem mounting my Nokia mobile phone. lsusb shows it but I can't mount it.
[21:51] <Repentinus> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0421:04b2 Nokia Mobile Phones
[21:52] <Repentinus> Can anyone tell me how to mount it?
[21:53] <spaceBARbarian> in the volume control panel is there a way to bind the volume of one stream to another ?
[21:53] <Picassotamus> yowshi: I meant have you gone to Wine's website checked their appdb to see if Kanes Wrath is known to work? I looked at that error and it shows up with people tryint to install itunes and .net2.0 framework through msi, no indication its a dvd drive error afaict
[21:53] <yowshi> Picassotamus: oh i know the game works and even on appdb it is listed as working
[21:54] <yowshi> Picassotamus: 2 weeks ago it wporked then i hadnt played it for a while. a few days ago i had a graphics driver problem which i mistook as a wine problem and in my failed atempt to fix the non existent wine problem i broke wine
[21:55] <Picassotamus> yowshi: Have you tried re-installing wine?
[21:55] <eqisow> yowshi: I know I'm jumping into this, been have you purge removed wine and re-installed? did you upgrade while you were trying to fix it?
[21:55] <elliottm> sorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff
[21:55] <solexious> When doing a apt-get upgrade I get this, http://pastebin.com/m7e9ef809 how can I fix it?
[21:56] <yowshi> Picassotamus: yes it was suggested to remove the .wine folder after backinh up the drive_c folder which i did. i still had to reinstall the game though. and here is something even more fraged. i can run commands on the dvd with wine but it wont access the dvd drive from the game folder
[21:56] <LjL> solexious: don't use apt-get upgrade. user apt-get dist-upgrade, or Synaptic
[21:56] <wesso> hey gys....extreme noob here with many probs here........need help
[21:56] <yowshi> Picassotamus: if i tell wine to run a command on the dvd it will. but it wont even try to see the dvd drive if i run the exe in the programme files folder
[21:57] <Bjork22> quelqu'un parle francais ici?
[21:57] <solexious> LjL, how come dist-upgrade? I dont want 9.4 yet...
[21:57] <erdgeist_> \join #latex
[21:57] <erdgeist_> up
[21:57] <erdgeist_> s
[21:58] <FloodBot1> erdgeist_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <eqisow> wesso: what's up, fella?
[21:58] <LjL> solexious: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade you to a newer distribution at all. that's not what it does.
[21:58] <mak3shift> hi, i have a problem. my ubuntu interface does not appear on startup.  various services work, like remote desktop server. i can also access files by opening a folder on my desktop, but when browsing it says they aren't owned by me and can't be shared. how do i get my interface back and make my files owned by me again
[21:58] <wesso> ehhh, was told this OS was a breeze, ive had nothing but probs so far.....it all started with the install
[21:58] <spaceBARbarian> anyone know how i can bind my laptop volume buttons to two separate devices ? for some reason ubuntu has the headphone jack and internal speakers show up on separate devices
[21:58] <wesso> upon install i got a error message
[21:58] <x1101> hello all
[21:58] <solexious> Ljl, Thank you
[22:00] <wesso> "The creation of swap space in partition #1 of host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk failed
[22:00] <gnorris> hea i got a question can anyone help me please. I am trying to download stuff off of the add/remove software and no matter what i try to download it gives me this message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[22:00] <gnorris> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.              i am connected to the Internet. I don't know what to do, can someone please help?!
[22:00] <mak3shift> that probably means your disk is messed up. are you creating a whole new partition table?
[22:00] <eqisow> wesso, this was after install? what methoid did you use for the installation?
[22:00] <gnorris> I dont think so
[22:00] <Nevis> top gives: Mem:    967984k total,   949108k used,    18876k free,    25860k buffers
[22:00] <Nevis>  but "system-monitor" says only 520MB are used. How can it be?
[22:00] <De-Mentor> i'm looking for a way to upgrade gnome-rdp 0.2.2 to 0.2.3 and i dont know how
[22:00] <wesso> i pressed cancel thinking it would stop the install, but it completed......now, everytime i restart my laptop, i have to run through the entire install all over again
[22:01] <wesso> download from net and installed
[22:01] <RizR> thinking to buy joystick. any one that's known to work well in ubuntu?
[22:01] <x1101> gnorris: you would need to run the suggested command, have you done that yet?
[22:01] <eqisow> wesso: have you taken the install CD out of your drive?
[22:01] <commander_> okay .now i got a question. when will they add the 3D graphics for timevault which I find very valuable
[22:01] <wesso> it was DURING install, step 4 of 7
[22:01] <wesso> i never had an install CD....
[22:02] <wesso> i downloaded off ubuntu's site
[22:02] <eqisow> wesso: so, like I said, how did you install? USB? Wubi?
[22:02] <wesso> oh, im sorry.....wubi installer
[22:02] <wesso> like i said, im an extreme noob to this, so please, be patient
[22:03] <mak3shift> er...isnt wubi a virtual environment for windows to run ubuntu in?
[22:03] <eqisow> wesso: It's OK. I've personally had mixed results with Wubi (sometimes works great, sometimes not), so I would recommend a traditional CD install
[22:03] <wesso> request one from Ubuntu site i suppose?
[22:04] <mak3shift> or download the iso
[22:04] <mak3shift> it takes like 6 weeks for the disc to come
[22:04] <mitchell> hello..
[22:04] <eqisow> wesso: or you can download it and burn it yourself: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[22:04] <albert_> hello
[22:04] <wesso> and it also asked me how i wanted to partition the disk.....at that screen it stopped, and thats when i hit cancel
[22:04] <mitchell> i have an issue with my wireless on linux..
[22:04] <yowshi> heh stumped another one
[22:04] <mak3shift> hi, i have a problem. my ubuntu interface does not appear on startup.  various services work, like remote desktop server. i can also access files by opening a folder on my desktop, but when browsing it says they aren't owned by me and can't be shared. how do i get my interface back and make my files owned by me again?
[22:05] <hans> hey I can't play DVD in my computer??
[22:05] <Iceman_B^Ltop> does Samba do file locking ala windows XP ?
[22:06] <billenium> how do i install build-essentials, gcc and linux headers without the internet?
[22:06] <georgy_28> billenium, : it is on the install cd
[22:06] <zash> billenium: do you have a install cd?
[22:07] <billenium> Yes.
[22:07] <wesso> ok...next porb.  I have tried to install Adobe Flash 10 twice now, and both times i get:ERROR WRONG ARCHITECTURE 'i386'
[22:08] <Picassotamus> yowshi: yeah I'm not sure i can be more of service... not real clear on how that error singals a DVD problem though
[22:08] <elliottm> sorry for asking, but can someone help me with sound? I'm using Hardy, sound stopped working after an update, I never changed any config files to begin with, nothing is muted, the correct sound card is the default, it works on the live cd, I entirely reinstalled alsa and it didn't fix it. here'sthe output of that script: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ac493f5d10b7b1959abc96cc5bdae1f6f1f274ff
[22:08] <billenium> Zash: can it be installed from the CD? I have one.
[22:09] <yowshi> Picassotamus: the problem is that wine isnt trying to use the dvd drive. it's like it doesnt know where it is.
[22:09] <Picassotamus> yowshi: i know you have said, but i don't see any evidence of that is my point
[22:09] <Bacon> I have a question about SSH lockout issues with IPTables
[22:11] <Bacon> It seems that when I load IPtables filter to deny hosts after 8 tries, SSH denies them at 5
[22:11] <apostle> Is there linux support for SMY Signal Generator from R&S?
[22:12] <zash> billenium: if it's on the cd, you should be able to install from there
[22:12] <Picassotamus> yowshi: if that is the case, have you remapped your drives since you reinstalled wine? using winecfg or w/e
[22:12] <billenium> so i just pop the CD in...
[22:12] <billenium> eh
[22:12] <billenium> ill look around myself.
[22:12] <yowshi> Picassotamus: yes i tried that
[22:13] <lamer> abend
[22:14] <yungDS> oh for f*ck sake... what is that damn gui that you just choose your .img file and it does a automatic usb boot setup for your jumpdrive?
[22:14] <mrwes> yungDS, netbootlin?
[22:14] <yungDS> !!!
[22:14] <yungDS> yes
[22:14] <mak3shift> hi, i have a problem. my ubuntu interface does not appear on startup.  various services work, like remote desktop server. i can also access files by opening a folder on my desktop, but when browsing it says they aren't owned by me and can't be shared. how do i get my interface back and make my files owned by me again?
[22:15] <yungDS> damnit i am stupid
[22:15] <mrwes> something like that...heh
[22:15] <Bacon> mak3shift: what login name are you using?
[22:15] <yungDS> unetbootin
[22:15] <yungDS> soon as you said it i remembered
[22:15] <Bacon> mak3shift: better yet, is the login name have root access?
[22:15] <yungDS> huge brain fart
[22:15] <yungDS> thanks
[22:15] <mrwes> yah... that's it
[22:16] <mrwes> nod
[22:16] <mrwes> heh
[22:16] <mrwes> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:16] <yungDS> lol
[22:16] <yungDS> ive used thousands of times but too bad i have memory problems
[22:16] <yungDS> haha
[22:16] <Miesco> Whats the main language for the X11 API?
[22:17] <coreyman> Can I get help installing ventrilo under wine.
[22:17] <Bacon> Miesco: Python
[22:17] <Miesco> Bacon: Isn't it like... Motif?
[22:18] <Bacon> Miesco: I thought it was python
[22:18] <Miesco> What is xclock made in?
[22:18] <Miesco> what language
[22:18] <Bacon> Miesco: dont know that one
[22:19] <jove> hi all, does ubuntu has vncviewer ?
[22:20] <georgy_28> !vnc
[22:20] <Bacon> Anyone know how to get ssh lockout working with iptables
[22:20] <Bacon> I tried setting it to 8
[22:20] <Bacon> but it timesout at 5 and doesn't lockout
[22:21] <Ienorand> Is it possible to mount partition images from ntfsclone in qemu?
[22:22] <GuyFromHell> Alright i give up, google is of no use. Is there a nice way to remove the color escape sequences from a file
[22:22] <mak3shift> i got disconnected, sry.
[22:22] <spaceBARbarian> whats a good lightweight editor for systems programming with c
[22:22] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, gedit
[22:22] <_VIM_> vim *cough*
[22:22] <mrwes> vim_full
[22:22] <mak3shift> @bacon the login name is the only one on the computer, i guess it has root access
[22:22] <mrwes> heh
[22:22] <_VIM_> hehe
[22:23] <_ADiOS__> hello!
[22:23] <`Borg`> sorry to bother, but what is the name of the package to install/configure what PHP5 extensions to install?
[22:23] <_ADiOS__> I accidentally my whole apt. is this bad?
[22:23] <spaceBARbarian> my bad i meant light weight IDE not editor :P
[22:23] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, gedit has a hightlight mode for many lanugagues
[22:24] <Nevis> Whenever I try to save files in firefox, it freezes for 10-20 sec. The "save as" window shows up, but it's blank and doesn't respond. what could be causing this?
[22:24] <`Borg`> I see all the packages in the list when I apt-get, but isn't there like a package that installs/configures the PHP extensions?
[22:24] <ikonia> `Borg`: extensions for what
[22:24] <`Borg`> php5
[22:24] <_VIM_> spaceBARbarian, ive heard people say geany is nice, but I've never really tried it out
[22:25] <`Borg`> I'm so used to BSD I tend to get lost sometimes with the ubuntu packages & such..
[22:25] <gnorris> Anyone Here Need Some Help
[22:25] <ikonia> `Borg`: extension for use with what?
[22:25] <Iceman_B^Ltop> gnorris: how do I scroll within top ?
[22:25] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2007/02/geany-multi-language-fast-and.html
[22:25] <gnorris> what do you mean
[22:25] <Iceman_B^Ltop> when I run top
[22:25] <gnorris> like scroll between desktops
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> there are more processes than my monitor can display
[22:26] <ikonia> gnorris: no - scroll within the appliciation "top"
[22:26] <spaceBARbarian> mrwes: cool i was looking at geany too
[22:26] <`Borg`> ikonia, extensions to use with php5. I want to install a bunch of extensions, but I don't want to install them all manually. I would prefer to install them from a config selection list or something and install that way.
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> yes, that
[22:26] <Iceman_B^Ltop> thanks ikonia
[22:26] <mrwes> http://www.geany.org/
[22:26] <mrwes> more direct link
[22:26] <gnorris> I dont understan what your saying
[22:26] <mrwes> looks pretty good, puppy linux actually uses geany
[22:26] <ikonia> `Borg`: what extensions
[22:26] <ikonia> `Borg`: php is an application/scripting lanaugage
[22:26] <`Borg`> ming, iconv, mbstring, etc
[22:27] <ikonia> `Borg`: they look like functions within php
[22:27] <`Borg`> they are set through php yes, but the problem is the packages are not installed for the specific extensions needed
[22:27] <Nevis> happens with many other applications that save files to disc. I think something with the FS (or nautilus?) is broken.
[22:27] <ikonia> `Borg`: if you open the package manager and search for "php5" you'll see all the php5 packages, including things like the library set for use with apache/mysql/imap etc etc
[22:27] <gnorris> right i belive
[22:28] <`Borg`> I'm not using GUI> I'm working CLI only
[22:28] <ikonia> `Borg`: then use apt-cache search
[22:28] <ikonia> gnorris: you believe what ?
[22:28] <`Borg`> I did. it only shows the php5-extensionnamehere
[22:28] <gnorris> nothing never mind
[22:28] <ikonia> `Borg`: yes, that's what you want, php5-extension
[22:28] <`Borg`> there is no generic package that I can see. eg: php5-extensions
[22:28] <Cyclo> Good evening everybody! :) I have a Problem on ubuntu 8.10. Could you please help me?
[22:29] <_ADiOS__> Cyclo I accidentally my apt. is it bad?
[22:29] <ikonia> `Borg`: you search for php5 - it shows you the packages with the extensions - you install the ones you want
[22:29] <Cyclo> Excuse me ?
[22:29] <`Borg`> awww...well thats what I didn't want to do. I was hoping there would be something like php5-extensions & I could do apt-get install php5-extensions
[22:29] <ikonia> Cyclo: ask a question
[22:29] <ikonia> `Borg`: no - you install the packages you want
[22:29] <`Borg`> well dat sux...
[22:30] <ikonia> `Borg`: no, thats sensible
[22:30] <darkfile1> hi guys
[22:30] <darkfile1> i need to complain about the update
[22:30] <kilj> Anyone know of any software that can assist with graphic cards overheating in Intrepid?
[22:30] <Cyclo> ok, I am generally a newbie on ubuntu and generally Linux. I installed 8.10 and typed some commands i dont even remember
[22:30] <ikonia> darkfile1: what update ?
[22:30] <darkfile1> ikonia, i did whole disk encryption
[22:30] <ikonia> Cyclo: ok - what is the problem though
[22:30] <`Borg`> no it's not ikonia... there should be a parent portage that configures all packages to be installed by selection..
[22:30] <Cyclo> now I cannot boot on Ubuntu login screen
[22:30] <ii_py> I have UBUNTU 8.04 HARDY HERON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[22:30] <ii_py> GOOOD
[22:30] <ikonia> ii_py: ok -
[22:30] <`Borg`> That in fact would be more practical ikonia.
[22:30] <Cyclo> When i boot, i have to type "startx" in order to get a GUI
[22:30] <darkfile1> and as /boot is unencrypted i put /boot and grub on a USB stick
[22:31] <ikonia> `Borg`: no, installing what you want is the norm
[22:31] <ikonia> `Borg`: if you don't like it, don't use it
[22:31] <darkfile1> now there was a kernel update (jaunty beta)
[22:31] <darkfile1> and it simply created a new /boot
[22:31] <nyad> is there a way to free up unused memory manually? like flushing the buffers?
[22:31] <darkfile1> instead to ask me to put in the USB dtick :(
[22:31] <ikonia> darkfile1: you're complaining about an update in a beta product
[22:31] <ikonia> darkfile1: join #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion
[22:31] <darkfile1> ok
[22:32] <kilj> Anyone know how to stop graphic cards from overheating in intrepid?  It does not overheat on windows or when I had hardy.
[22:32] <Cyclo> any suggestions on how not to boot in Terminal? All i want is to boot in GUI and login there
[22:32] <kilj> It is an ATI x1800.
[22:32] <Nevis> how about nvclock?
[22:32] <nyad> is there a way to free up unused memory manually? like flushing the buffers?
[22:32] <ikonia> Cyclo: depends what you did to break it
[22:32] <Nevis> so no, nvclock won't work.
[22:32] <kilj> nvclock is for Nvidia?
[22:32] <Cyclo> i tried to configure ssh server (i dont think that is the reason)
[22:32] <Cyclo> and the last thing i did... was a Shutdown command
[22:33] <ikonia> Cyclo: very doubtful ssh is the problem
[22:33] <Cyclo> yes ikonia i believe ssh is not the problem (by the way... i have problem with ssh too:D)
[22:33] <spaceBARbarian> does anyone use lastfm with rythmbox ? i cant get it to scrobble properly
[22:33] <ikonia> Cyclo: so you must have done something else to break it
[22:33] <mak3shift> hi, i have a problem. my ubuntu interface does not appear on startup.  various services work, like remote desktop server. i can also access files by opening a folder on my desktop, but when browsing it says they aren't owned by me and can't be shared, and often upon opening a folder on desktop the screen goes white and stops responding. how do i get my interface back and make my files owned by me again?
[22:33] <`Borg`> ikonia, I'm not trashing it. I just don't agree with how it is done on Ubuntu I guess because it is more time consuming and really steps are involved that could be completely avoided all together by having a parent portage which allows you to select what php5-extension portages you want to install. that makes more sense than having your users apt-get/aptitude installing packages by the dozen copy pasting pkg names.
[22:33] <kilj> Seems like this is an unsolvable problem.  After about 3 days of reading every issue in overheating does not seem to work hmm.
[22:34] <Cyclo> ikonia,  maybe a "shutdown" command?
[22:34] <ikonia> Cyclo: no
[22:34] <ikonia> `Borg`: it doesn't use portage - so what you say makes no sense
[22:34] <raddad> cyclo: being a n00b myself, I keep a notebook where I write all my moves for future reference (my poor memory)
[22:35] <`Borg`> ikonia, in fact it does. anything ported is portage regardless of what repository or port tree it is in.
[22:35] <vegas513> hi everybody...i'm actually using linux mint, but can't seem to find much help on their irc channel, i was wondering if you guys might be willing to help
[22:35] <Cyclo> raddad, gonna do the same from now on. you see, beeing a noob is not enough=) you must break something to learn:D
[22:35] <vegas513> i'm having trouble mounting an ntfs partition on my hard drive
[22:35] <raddad> lol
[22:35] <_VIM_> raddad, lol same here although the sad thing is im not a noob :(
[22:35] <_hyde> hi everybody
[22:35] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, you configured the plugin with your account info?
[22:35] <_hyde> anyone use apt-cacher-ng?
[22:35] <_hyde> how can i clean the lists!?
[22:35] <spaceBARbarian> mrwes: yeah it says status is okay but no updates
[22:35] <ikonia> `Borg`: ok - but in your discussion your using suggestion portage as a package manager
[22:35] <kilj> Anyone here experienced with ATI cards overheating in Intrepid?
[22:36] <spaceBARbarian> mrwes: i just downloaded the actual lastfm app, now it scrobbles but shows itunes(win) as the app for some reason :P
[22:36] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, hrmm...I just fired up mine and it seems to be functioning correctly -- however I don't use it that much
[22:36] <`Borg`> package is a portage as well. if it's been ported to an OS it is ported package.
[22:36] <kilj> I cannot even get Kpowersave to run.
[22:36] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, Oh...I'm just using the built in plugin
[22:36] <kanzie> I want to have a simple LAMP running on a server in the closet without screen or keyboard. I don't have to much linux-skills. Is Ubuntu the way to go for simple set up that wont take all day?
[22:36] <_hyde> how can i clean the lists of apt-cacher-ng?
[22:36] <mrwes> kanzie, yes
[22:37] <mrwes> kanzie, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[22:37] <kanzie> ok, downloading iso and installing then. No problems running on a HP Pavillon S7000?
[22:37] <kanzie> mrwes: thanks
[22:37] <Cyclo> can some1 tell me what is the "runlevel" stands for ?
[22:37] <nyad>  is there a way to free up unused memory manually? like flushing the buffers?
[22:37] <kilj> Anyone here experienced with ATI cards overheating in Intrepid?
[22:37] <zash> nyad: why would you want to
[22:37] <ikonia> kilj: asking every 60 seconds isn't helpful
[22:38] <mrwes> kanzie, sure, you can run it headless and acccess it via ssh
[22:38] <mrwes> spaceBARbarian, I always forget to use last.fm
[22:38] <mrwes> heh
[22:38] <edthefox> !runlevel
[22:38] <Ropechoborra> My network-admin does not let my config my wireless network to be without encryptation and i cannot connect without activating DCHP
[22:38] <ikonia> Cyclo: run level is the descriptor for what packages get started when you boot up
[22:38] <Ropechoborra> DHCP*
[22:38] <nyad> zash, my system is laggy and I want to play a game, it runs when i boot and login but after some use its a bit slow
[22:38] <kanzie> mrwes: Yep, that's what I hoped. Ill hook it up now for install though
[22:38] <gidna> hi
[22:38] <kilj> I am at my wits end is all.  I will only ask every 5 minutes then lol.
[22:39] <zash> nyad: kill stuff
[22:39] <Ienorand> what is the difference between virtualization apps in ubuntu? Virtualbox vs qemu vs KVM?
[22:39] <kanzie> mrwes: should I go with the server-edition or normal?
[22:40] <ikonia> Ienorand: different software
[22:40] <Ropechoborra> How can i configure an static ip adress with the network-admin tool ?
[22:40] <mrwes> kanzie, server edition
[22:40] <mrwes> kanzie, I just built one two weeks ago
[22:40] <kanzie> mrwes: you recommen 8.04 or 8.10
[22:41] <Ienorand> ikonia: I know that... I'm looking to get an overview of them, and ubuntu documentation I find lacking in that sense.
[22:41] <_hyde> how can i clean the lists of apt-cacher-ng?
[22:41] <zash> kanzie: i recomend the LTS noe
[22:41] <ikonia> Ienorand: possible because they are nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:41] <kanzie> zash: but the server-edition comes without GUI?
[22:41] <zash> kanzie: i run 8.04 LTS
[22:42] <mrwes> kanzie, I'd go with 8.04, since it's LTS; here's another good link http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver
[22:42] <zash> kanzie: yes, you don't want a gui on a server
[22:42] <kanzie> zash: I always lik UI, but Ill go with the LTS then and see how I do
[22:43] <edthefox> Ienorand: TRY...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtual_machines
[22:43] <zash> kanzie: ofcourse, nothing stops you from installing a gui
[22:43] <Andisu> hello my man of C programming don´t exists
[22:43] <Andisu> how to i install this?
[22:43] <ikonia> Andisu: do you want a C compiler ?
[22:43] <mrwes> kanzie, come back and I'll be here to help ya out
[22:43] <billenium> how do i install my driver through ndiswrapper?
[22:43] <Andisu> yes
[22:44] <Andisu> ikonia yes
[22:44] <ikonia> Andisu: look at the gcc package
[22:44] <mrwes> kanzie, you can install webmin for a 'GUI' admin
[22:44] <zash> Andisu: and the build-essential package
[22:44] <Andisu> how to i install gcc package?
[22:44] <mrwes> kanzie, you'll learn 10 times more not using one :)
[22:44] <Andisu> apt-get install gcc-package?
[22:44] <billenium> Andisu, sudo apt-get install gcc
[22:44] <kanzie> mrwes: Thanks man, its downloading now!
[22:44] <ikonia> Andisu: open the package manager, search for "gcc" hit install on the package ou want
[22:45] <kilj> Hmm.  Do Xorg drivers only work with 2d abilities of ati cards or 3d as well?
[22:45] <Andisu> ok
[22:45] <Andisu> ty
[22:45] <zash> Andisu: build-essential is a meta-package that pulls in useful programming stuff
[22:45] <kilj> I am currently using Mesa drivers that prevents my card from overheating.
[22:45] <Andisu> uhn
[22:45] <teimu> hi #ubuntu. how can I continue a process after suspending it in the shell with ctrl-z?
[22:45] <zash> teimu: fg
[22:46] <edthefox> ~!fg
[22:46] <zash> teimu: or bg for continue-in-background
[22:46] <edthefox> !fg
[22:46] <BlackCoffee> !grub
[22:46] <teimu> wonderful, thanks guys!
[22:46] <edthefox> !bg
[22:46] <teimu> haha
[22:47] <tiagofalcao> !br
[22:47] <edthefox> lol this bot knows nothing
[22:47] <space_cadet> rofl @ and please idle there patiently
[22:47] <jhass840> Okay, this may seem like an incredibly dumb question.  I have installed Jaunty 32-bit and Jaunty 64-bit on my laptop.  Unfortunately I can't remember which one is which so...How do I tell the difference?
[22:47] <space_cadet> so ... xchat  how to perma set "hide joins and parts"
[22:48] <georgy_28> jhass840, : try uname -a
[22:48] <edthefox> jhass840: try uname -a
[22:48] <PhotoJim> jhass840: boot, open a terminal, type dmesg | more ... and look at the very top line.  it'll tell you if it's an amd64 (64-bit) kenel or i386 (32-bit).
[22:48] <PhotoJim> jhass840: or do what they suggested. :)
[22:48] <kanzie> mrwes: What is LVM for filesystem
[22:48] <kullu_> hello didi
[22:48] <jhass840> i686 means 64bit?
[22:48] <mrwes> kanzie, dunno..I don't use it
[22:48] <kullu_> jhass840, no
[22:48] <didi> kullu_: Hello.
[22:48] <ghindo> jhass840: No, i686 doesn't mean 64 bit
[22:48] <PhotoJim> jhass840: no, that's 32-bit.  amd64 is 64-bit.
[22:48] <edthefox> logical volume somthingorother
[22:49] <kullu_> hey didi.. how are you?
[22:49] <PhotoJim> jhass840: i686 means Pentium II or newer 32-bit
[22:49] <kullu_> didi, where are you from?
[22:49] <didi> kullu_: I am fine. And you?
[22:49] <kullu_> didi, where are you from?
[22:49] <jhass840> darn, I guess this is the wrong one then.   Oh well, thanks for helping me figure that out
[22:49] <kullu_> ae didi jara naach ke dikha
[22:49] <Zedde> Hello can I deffine a terminal session like you do in putty on a windows system ?
[22:49] <jpubuntunub> I just installed ubuntu with 2 nvidia cards 1 pci 1 pcie and when I install the nvidia drivers I cannot get past the boot screen, it says doing normal boot, anyone no what happened? thanks
[22:49] <kadaver> why is the Linux kernelgrowing so fast? what are the new stuff? new drivers?
[22:50] <kanzie> mrwes: The guide skips LAMP as option and does the packages manually later, should I for simpliictys sake check it and install?
[22:50] <kullu_> kadaver, go to http://www.kernel.org
[22:50] <kullu_> didi, arey kahan gaya re sala?
[22:50] <mrwes> kanzie, you can, but I just use my server for file and print server -- and media server
[22:51] <_VIM_> kadaver, everyone demands that things "Just work" so fatter kernels are no doubt going to be the result
[22:51] <mrwes> kanzie, do you need a web server, mail server, etc?
[22:51] <oCean_> !english | kullu_
[22:51] <kullu_> mrwes, which software packages do you use for file and print and media server?
[22:51] <pieisgood4589> Is there any way of using RPM in Ubuntu, or would you have to convert it to a DEB file?
[22:51] <kullu_> ubottu, arey ek line hindi bol diye to tera jhaat kahe jal raha hai re?
[22:51] <mrwes> kullu_, I use samba and internet printing protocol w/ CUPS for printing, and I run mt-daapd (firefly) for music sharing over the network
[22:52] <kullu_> pieisgood4589, yes it is.
[22:52] <georgy_28> !alien
[22:52] <nightrid3r> !irc
[22:52] <kullu_> download the rpm package manager..
[22:52] <jpubuntunub> I just installed ubuntu with 2 nvidia cards 1 pci 1 pcie and when I install the nvidia drivers I cannot get past the boot screen, it says doing normal boot, anyone no what happened? thanks
[22:52] <kullu_> mrwes :thanks
[22:52] <mrwes> nod
[22:52] <pieisgood4589> Ahh, I see, thank you, kullu_
[22:52] <gnorris> Anyone Here Need Help
[22:52] <jpubuntunub> gnorris: me haha
[22:52] <sharperguy> How do I switch from KDM back to GDM? (a quick reminder should suffice)
[22:52] <mrwes> kullu_, unfortunately, my son took his PS3 when he moved out :(
[22:53] <gnorris> Ok lets private chat jpubuntunub
[22:53] <raylu> my music is organized in directories. generally, i just want to load an entire directory as a 'playlist' and play that. can anyone name a media player that let's me organize my music myself without any sort of automation and allows me to easily load directories? (console players are ok, but i'd like audioscrobbling/last.fm support, if possible)
[22:53] <kullu_> mrwes, then buy an xbox_360
[22:54] <kullu_> :)
[22:54] <kullu_> xD
[22:54] <raylu> also, in kde i used "kcontrol" to tweak my qt settings; what should i use now (i don't actually have kde installed but i'm using amarok)
[22:54] <kullu_> pieisgood4589, it is possible in debian..
[22:54] <mrwes> kullu_, no way -- mediatomb with a PS3 rocks
[22:54] <kullu_> not sure if it works in ubuntu
[22:54] <pieisgood4589> OK, thank you kullu_.
[22:54] <kullu_> mrwes, cool :)
[22:55] <kadaver> raylu: i made an mp3player in clojure that lets you do that it doesnt have last.fm support though
[22:55] <raylu> kadaver: mp3 isn't enough. i have some flacs and ogg
[22:55] <kullu_> didi, where gone?? yaar
[22:55] <raylu> kadaver: in fact, mp3 is the one format i can live without
[22:55] <kanzie> mrwes, actually I need LAMP :-)
[22:55] <mrwes> kullu_, stream all my avi's and mp3's to the PS3 -- On Demand
[22:55] <_VIM_> gnorris, why are you asking people if they need help and pulling them into PM's? got something to hide?
[22:55] <kanzie> I need a running apache, a mysql5 w. phpmyadmin, and php5-support
[22:55] <kanzie> it will only run one site in a local network, its a webapp
[22:55] <kullu_> mrwes, :)
[22:56] <mrwes> kanzie, I haven't walked that road yet, but I can help you with the rest. Also, you can try in #Ubuntu-server, but help is sloooow coming in there
[22:56] <kanzie> mrwes: I feel confident in the hands of you
[22:56] <raylu> kanzie: has anyone answered your question about lvm?
[22:56] <kanzie> raylu: nopes
[22:56] <mrwes> kanzie, haha...
[22:57] <raylu> kanzie: logical volume management. isn't used by the ubuntu installer's partitioner
[22:57] <oCean_> kanzie: install LAMP: "sudo tasksel install lamp-server", see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[22:57] <micca> sihg: anyone got an alternative to rhythmbox music player.. as when I add a huge folder with songs, it just greys out and now it doesn't work
[22:57] <micca> anyone got an alternative to rhythmbox music player.. as when I add a huge folder with songs, it just greys out and now it doesn't work
[22:57] <mrwes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel or there
[22:57] <_Whipper> micca: Amarok
[22:57] <micca> ok nice
[22:58] <kanzie> oCean_: yeah, but the installer provides the option to install the LAMP-package, which Im leaning towards
[22:58] <micca> _Whipper, what I notice is that rhythmbox looks a bit like itunes? how about this amarok?
[22:58] <oCean_> kanzie: your point?
[22:58] <_Whipper> micca: its for KDE ..
[22:58] <micca> _Whipper, ah crap.. im on gnome
[22:58] <kullu_> kanzie: yeah... :)
[22:58] <kanzie> oCean_: just asking if I should skip that option and manually install the packages or just go the easy route
[22:58] <micca> thought I could crossover the apps though
[22:58] <_Whipper> micca: nothing like it :)
[22:58] <mrwes> I wish Amarok supported daap shares though
[22:59] <micca> _Whipper,  ok well... hmm.. in this case.. what can I do then to FIX the rhythmbox thing?
[22:59] <kullu_> kanzie : its otherwise as simple as #aptitude install mysql php php-mysql
[22:59] <Jostein> hey
[22:59] <_Whipper> micca: you cant find a better player..
[22:59] <micca> and so I can't use amarok on gnome  yes?
[22:59] <oCean_> kanzie: your choice of course
[22:59] <mrwes> micca, yes you can
[22:59] <kanzie> can I read up on what the package suggested by the HH-installer does?
[22:59] <nonprophet> i just  installed ubuntu on my mac and whenever i try starting up i just get a folder with a ? on it
[22:59] <dayo> how do i uninstall an app that i installed from source?
[23:00] <micca> _Whipper, ok if there isn't a better player.. why does it crash on first use of attempting playing music sure its a 50 GB folder
[23:00] <Jostein> ??
[23:00] <shantzu> hello
[23:00] <_Whipper> micca: i ment Aarok
[23:00] <kullu_> dayo: i guess you would hve to manually remove the binary
[23:00] <nonprophet> can someone helpme out
[23:00] <micca> _Whipper, in other words.. what can I do
[23:00] <micca> AH OK
[23:00] <shantzu> how can i see what package contains the file 'Gnome.pm'?
[23:00] <kullu_> dayo: and all the configs....
[23:01] <_Whipper> micca: i suppose it could have gnome ver. too.. look for it..
[23:01] <micca> 120 MB OMG @ amarok _Whipper : linux is turning into windows :P
[23:01] <pieisgood4589> Nope
[23:01] <_Whipper> micca: wth..
[23:01] <kanzie> mrwes: since Im going to run this on a lan only, should I still provide a hostname?
[23:01] <pieisgood4589> Linux is LINUX, it's FAR from Microsoft
[23:01] <oCean_> shantzu: "dpkg -S /path/to/file"
[23:01] <Ymse> Localhost = computername ??
[23:01] <mrwes> micca, that's because you need the KDE libraries too
[23:01] <nonprophet> :/
[23:01] <_VIM_> micca, people demand windows-like features, so of course some linux distros are getting porky :)
[23:02] <mrwes> kanzie, ahh..yes :)
[23:02] <gnorris> Anyone here need help
[23:02] <nonprophet> me ;_;
[23:02] <gnorris> oh i will private im you nonprophet
[23:02] <shantzu> oCean_: i don't know what the path is, i need to install the library which contains that file (i need that file for a perl program) ...
[23:02] <micca> _VIM_, absolutely.. I think its good... (I am one of them tbh.. I hated that every little app ion the past I wanted to run , liek a simple video player, took so much configuration!)
[23:03] <_VIM_> well ram is cheap these days, so heh
[23:03] <dayo> kullu_: hmmm. well, i installed nmap-4.85BETA5 and when i checked the version ($ nmap -v) it still showed v4.53.  so, i'm trying to uninstall 4.85B5, then uninstall 4.53 via apt, then reinstall the 4.85B5 from source again?
[23:03] <mrwes> VIM: it's porky? it wouldn't be that big if he was already running KDE
[23:03] <Ymse> gnorris: If you can explain localhost for me in a simple matter......instaling MySQL you see....
[23:03] <micca> mrwes.. OK .. I see.. so if I had of had the KDE libs , it would be how much? Plus, does this mean then from now on.. if i USE other KDE apps, i wont need to download ALL the libs anymore?
[23:03] <gnorris> im with someone please wait
[23:03] <_VIM_> mrwes, compared to distros of yesterday, yes "porky" :)
[23:03] <mrwes> micca, depends on the app
[23:03] <micca> sigh
[23:03] <micca> ok
[23:03] <pieisgood4589> What's the advantage of using Gentoo now? Is there any?
[23:03] <Kplus> Hello, can anyone tell me a way to speed up my browsing with Swiftfox? I've already disabled ipv6 and enabled pipelining but it still crawls relative to my Mac laptop on my wireless connection.
[23:04] <_Whipper> _VIM_: ever tried some "real" linux distros ? :)
[23:04] <kanzie> mrwes: and I need Bind installed too?
[23:04] <_VIM_> yep
[23:04] <mrwes> micca, it's your box  :)
[23:04] <DigitalKiwi> pieisgood4589: arch > gentoo
[23:04] <oCean_> Ymse: what was your localhost question?
[23:04] <_VIM_> _Whipper, i was kind of getting to that, but i didnt want to put Ubuntu down in anyway ;)
[23:04] <x1101> pieisgood4589: with gentoo you compile _everything_ which means that in theory things will run faster, there will be no unneeded kerenl modules ect
[23:04] <_Whipper> _VIM_: can i ask what distros ?
[23:04] <Ymse> oCean: Just if it's the same as the computername....
[23:04] <jpubuntunub> whats the best formatting for the hd you install to for ubuntu???
[23:05] <_VIM_> _Whipper, Arch, Gentoo, RedHat
[23:05] <micca> mrwes.. well... to some extent.. eg. this rhythmbox seems to suit me with its layout HOWEVER it crashes lol when i try i first time. LEWL... then totem as well was working till I installed vlc , now thats BORKED too... so I have to get what was it.. amarak or osmething.. and POFF suddenly it requires 150 MB or so :/
[23:05] <_VIM_> I always come back to Ubuntu for one reason or another :)     but we're way offtopic now
[23:05] <micca> '  my box'  is starting to resemble more windows style ;p
[23:05] <_Whipper> _VIM_: ok, you convinced me, if you have used gentoo over a month :)
[23:05] <oCean_> Ymse: "localhost" is the networkname given to the loopback interface. Even if you don't have networking, your computer can reach itself by using that interface, and that name
[23:06] <Ymse> oCean: Ofcourse I only have one Linux computer in my network so I guess when I'm installing MySQL on that computer. The computername is the localhost in this setting???
[23:06] <mrwes> micca, I run Rhythmbox with 80GB of mp3's
[23:06] <kanzie> mrwes: The guide is pointing to install ISPConsif
[23:06] <kanzie> config
[23:06] <oCean_> Ymse: if you have a public ip-address on an interface, it is most likely that you set your hostname (machinename) on that ip-address
[23:06] <_VIM_> and _Whipper what makes you assume Ubuntu isn't a "real" distro?
[23:06] <kanzie> what is this? I've never heard of it before
[23:06] <micca> mrwes.. so what can the problem be sigh .. both totem now and rhythm box both grey out when i try and use media files (totem seemed to start doing that after i installed vlc.. prhaps vlc borked up the rhythm box dependencies too???)
[23:07] <jpubuntunub> whats the best format for my hd??
[23:07] <oCean_> Ymse: In mysql you use the 'localhost' often, when handling local databases
[23:07] <micca> _Whipper, I have to agree with _VIM_ there
[23:07] <ChrizC> jpubuntunub: ext3.
[23:07] <scunizi> jpubuntunub: you mean file system.. ext3 is the default
[23:07] <mrwes> micca, where are the media files located?
[23:07] <jpubuntunub> alright sounds good thanks
[23:07] <Ymse> oCean: I'm not the fastest tractor in the field but I guess that answeared my question.....   ;)
[23:07] <OllyG> In Jaunty, ext4 is faster
[23:07] <_Whipper> _VIM_: i didnt say that. i ment real as in hmm.. not so "pretty & fancy" :)
[23:07] <micca> mrwes, on a 500 GB external flash drive
[23:08] <oCean_> Ymse: ok! If you need more info, just ask. No problem..
[23:08] <mrwes> micca, and you own that folder and have rights to it?
[23:08] <micca> which is prerry full
[23:08] <kanzie> anyone, what is ISPConfig and do I need on my local LAMP-server?
[23:08] <_VIM_> _Whipper, ah well those "Hard" or "real" distros can be made just as pretty, if not prettier than Ubuntu even
[23:08] <micca> well i could play movie files earlier
[23:08] <Dante123> hi all, I setup a share folder between ubuntu 8.04 and my friends Vista pc.  Vista can put items in the share folder, but they show up as locked/read only on Ubuntu.  How can I make it so that ubuntu and edit and do whatever to the files placed in there by Vista???
[23:08] <micca> obne sec ill see
[23:08] <_Whipper> _VIM_: i know
[23:08] <_ADiOS__> i accidentally a partition. what should i do?
[23:09] <Dante123>  How can I make it so that ubuntu can read and edit and do whatever to the files placed there by Vista.
[23:09] <ghindo> When I run Update Manager, one of the packages returns a "404 NOT FOUND" error.  What does this mean and how can I fix it?
[23:09] <_Whipper> _VIM_: thats a one thing i do :)
[23:09] <mrwes> micca, and were you patient in adding a big music library, sometimes the first couple of times it takes awhile
[23:09] <jpubuntunub> should i just put / as my mount point?
[23:09] <micca> mrwes: well i says root is owner..
[23:09] <Dante123> BTW, I hate Vista....from the little time spent using it on my friends pc.
[23:09] <OllyG> Dante123, try opening up gksu nutilus in the terminal, you run nautilus as root so you can do anything
[23:09] <mrwes> micca, what are the read/write perms?
[23:09] <_Whipper> Dante123: so right :)
[23:09] <Dante123> OllyG, that is not really a solution.  That is a workaround.
[23:10] <micca> mrwes.. I guess I wasn't.. (i tried running a file whilst it was loading.. but now it won't start when i restart it... and doesnt seem to keep loading them.. should I perfahps delete the .rhythmbox files in .config or .gconf or wherever they are?)
[23:10] <jpubuntunub> what should I put as my mount point?
[23:10] <sierinjs> hello!
[23:10] <`Borg`> ok another question. where is php5-mbstring extension for PHP5?
[23:10] <sierinjs> i want to know how make XML work for me ;D
[23:10] <Dante123> OllyG, btw the people using this are total newbies on Ubuntu and will mainly be two kids who use it.  Mom will put stuff from her computer in there but they need to be able to open and edit easily all the time.
[23:11] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: are you adding another disk?
[23:11] <micca> mrwes: it justs ays root has 'create and delete ' files and allow execute somethign something .. can't see any rw flags apart from that
[23:11] <mrwes> micca, /home/username/.gnome2/rhythmbox
[23:11] <OllyG> dante123, sorry, it's the only way I know
[23:11] <jpubuntunub> oCean_:installing
[23:11] <micca> ok ta, ill try it and let u know
[23:11] <mrwes> micca, can you access any other files from that mount point?
[23:11] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: new install, from scratch you mean?
[23:12] <jpubuntunub> oCean_: yea
[23:12] <Dante123> OllyG it works, but there is another way I just cant remember it.  I think it has to do with chmod stuff
[23:12] <gnorris> Ok im back is there anyone that i can help today
[23:12] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: ok, and why are you manually partitioning?
[23:12] <Iceman_B^Ltop> what's a good CLI mail client that can access multiple IMAP accounts ?
[23:12] <mrwes> micca, or you can do a complete removal from the package manager and reinstall
[23:12] <micca> mrwes.. yup... ran a film in vlc , worked fine
[23:12] <jpubuntunub> oCean_: dual booting with w and vista
[23:12] <OllyG> dante, maybe chown 777 -r /folder/*
[23:12] <mrwes> micca, since the rhythmbox faux?
[23:13] <micca> mrwes: isnt deleting the .gconf2 thing also ok? ill give it a try and get back to u
[23:13] <jpubuntunub> oCean_: w7*
[23:13] <micca> mrwes: yes just now when you asked me to
[23:13] <_VIM_> gnorris, me having issues with evolution
[23:13] <gnorris> yes
[23:13] <almark1> Hello there doesn't seem to be any Jackd  version 1.92 in repos for hardy that would be jack2, where can I download jack2 with apt-get?
[23:13] <gnorris> i will private im you
[23:13] <Ymse> oCean: And what would myhost be then??
[23:13] <_VIM_> ok
[23:13] <OllyG> or chmod 777
[23:13] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: ok. I understand the situation. And your current question is where to mount....
[23:14] <Baversjo> Hello. I'm in serious trouble as I just locked myself out of my server. When configuring Iptables, instead of allowing incomming connections on a destination port of 22, i allowed a Source port of 22. Can I somehow connect to the server with source port 22? I really need help :)
[23:14] <Dante123> OllyG something like that, but I need an expert who knows the exact syntax
[23:14] <jpubuntunub> oCean_: what should my mount point be? / or /home etc
[23:14] <micca> mrwes: i removed the file and now it is reloading all.. will wait till it seems done.. then try again :)
[23:14] <mrwes> micca, might be the /home/bill/.gnome2/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml file is corrupted
[23:14] <OllyG> Dante123 because of security issues, would suggest try the forum for better advice
[23:14] <Dante123> OllyG yeah ok
[23:15] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: well, if you only use 1 partition, then the mountpoint is / indeed
[23:15] <micca> mrwes : could be (I deleted that whole folder.. but luckily the link in applications still was there.. so I ran it and now seems to be back to the intitial set up stage.. will wait till scan is doen and let you know if it turned out properly)
[23:15] <jpubuntunub> oCean_: awesome thankyou
[23:15] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: but you can use more partitions like /boot and /home, each on private partitions
[23:15] <OllyG> Hey, anyone know what would I use to modify or make my own GTK2 themes?
[23:15] <Baversjo> Please someone can i specify a source port when connecting with ssh to my server? I don't know if that is the right solution if there's any solution. Anyone?
[23:16] <mak3shift> my ubuntu interface isn't showing anymore, and i can't access my shares, even though i can access my VNC server, help!
[23:16] <scunizi> Baversjo: 22
[23:16] <micca> WOW: didn't realize I could just play all my music and it would run non stop for a month :P
[23:16] <Baversjo> Source port, not destination port
[23:16] <scunizi> 21?
[23:16] <micca> Ok scan done... here goes
[23:16] <oCean_> jpubuntunub: as long as you're using just 1 partition, the /home and /boot will be in the / partition (but in this case just as regular directories)
[23:16] <OllyG> jpubuntunub I recommend two parititions, / and /home. That way upgrading is easier
[23:17] <scunizi> Baversjo: http://www.openssh.com/faq.html
[23:17] <micca> MArk Knight : Susan (extended mix)
[23:17] <micca> mrwes: SIGH.. no just doesn't work... same kind of thing like totem I guess... do you think when i did get vlc / get vlc-nox (dont know what this one was , dl it by mistake)... can I have borked some dependencies?
[23:17] <scunizi> Baversjo: there is no specified source port
[23:18] <almark1> What repo holds Jackd version 1.92?
[23:18] <_VIM_> !info jackd
[23:18] <_VIM_> ^^^^^
[23:18] <`Borg`> where is php5-mbstring extension for PHP5?
[23:18] <almark1> hmm. just 0.109 then?
[23:19] <gnorris> a
[23:19] <OllyG> 1391 people in here!!
[23:19] <jarrod> thats what she said
[23:19] <judget> does anyone know if there is an evolution IRC channel for that mail client?
[23:20] <OllyG> Hey, anyone know what would I use to modify or make my own GTK2 themes?
[23:20] <micca> mrwes: have no removed and reinstalled totem and rhythm.. I will see what happens.. but if it doesnt work ... big sigh.. linux still can be a bit borky :/
[23:21] <mrwes> micca,  you can try songbird, or audacity or banchee
[23:21] <micca> dl both banshee, audacity and now amarak but would be nice to be able to use out of box prog when it seems to be quite nice too.. and after all.. it comes with gnome for a reason I would guess :/
[23:21] <micca> mrwes (sorry forgot to add your nick)
[23:22] <_ADiOS__> micca i accidentally your nickname. is it bad?
[23:22] <_Whipper> micca: amarok is prettymuch out-of-the-box...
[23:22] <clearscreen> _ADiOS__: then who was phone?
[23:22] <_ADiOS__> i was phone!
[23:23] <micca> _Whipper, ok.. btw.. does amarok play music video files? (avi. mpg. etc?)
[23:23] <clearscreen> impossible, my dad is ded
[23:23] <_ADiOS__> how is babby formed? how girl get pragnent?
[23:23] <OllyG> lol
[23:23] <gnorris> Hello Im back can i help anyone
[23:23] <oCean_> !ot | _ADiOS__
[23:23] <micca> _ADiOS__, LOL WTF??
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> micca: sure it can
[23:23] <_Whipper> micca: with right codecs i quess :)
[23:23] <micca> ok ok
[23:23] <almark1> gnorris: yes where can I get Jackd version 1.92 for hardy? In apt-get i would like.
[23:23] <micca> ill give it a try but why can't these standard progs in gnome WORK .. sigh reminds me of the 90's!!!
[23:23] <oCean_> gnorris: wait a few, don't worry, people will ask
[23:23] <_ADiOS__> i herd u liek ubuntu
[23:24] <TonyMk> i want to publish my web page on internet, what i need to do ?!
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> micca: they do
[23:24] <micca> aka the previous millenium :P
[23:24] <gnorris> almark1 i will private im you
[23:24] <almark1> nod
[23:24] <mak3shift> my ubuntu interface isn't showing anymore, and i can't access my shares or else i'd just backup data and reinstall help!
[23:24] <micca> tonymk u can upload it to a free webhosting site... OR if you wanna get all savvy, install apache
[23:24] <_ADiOS__> i accidetally with my privates
[23:25] <clearscreen> _ADiOS__: we gonna name all memes we know like candlejack, creepychan, etc... that would be re-
[23:25] <micca> tonymk !apache
[23:25] <micca> erm ok
[23:25] <micca> thast didnt work :P
[23:25] <_ADiOS__> clearscreen o rly?
[23:25] <TonyMk> !apache
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> !info apache
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> !find apache
[23:25] <NoTiTo> which is ur fav mp3 player for ubuntu - I used to use itunes on windows...
[23:25] <TonyMk> micca: it's .pub document, and i wanna publish it on net.
[23:26] <BromaxSux> NoTiTo: i use songbird
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> NoTiTo: amarok every time, xul remote control is awesome
[23:26] <oCean_> TonyMk: Do you have an ubuntu-related technical question?
[23:26] <micca> then find an upload site and ftp it there.. or dyou mean you want the .pub file to be displayed on net? (.pub as in microsoft publisher?)
[23:26] <mak3shift> amarok is the best IMO, full support for visualizations is a huge pluss
[23:26] <_Whipper> can we NOT talk about itunes? it drives me f***ng mad every time i hear or see that word..
[23:27] <oCean_> _Whipper: tone down the language.
[23:27] <android6011> i installed ubuntu to an external hard drive, and after reboot of install, "Grub" came on the screen and just hung there, so i rebooted, and now i get "no boot sector on usb device", but it will boot on my other computer
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper: i hate ipod / apple too
[23:27] <_ADiOS__> _Whipper crappysoftware is crappy
[23:27] <micca> _Whipper, it asks me which DB to use.. sqlite or mysql eg. I intent to set up mysql later when I have time , in a few weeks... should i choose mydql (even if i dont have it installed or stick to sqlite?)
[23:27] <Baversjo> In my iptables configuration i have allowed connections to source port 22, is there any way i can access my server? I was supposed to allow connections on destination port 22 but got it wrong.
[23:27] <_Whipper> oCean_: ok. i ment "not".
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> micca: the defaults are fine
[23:28] <micca> i havent used itunes or any of that stuff in YEARS.. HATED it after it completely reorganized my 100s of hours of  work putting music into my own defined folders
[23:28] <gnorris> Anyone here that needs help
[23:28] <micca> ok ActionParsnip ta
[23:28] <NoTiTo> does songbirg work on gnome?
[23:28] <_ADiOS__> you guys are a bunch of faggots
[23:28] <lasse> NoTiTo: yes
[23:28] <DigitalKiwi> !OPS _ADiOS__
[23:28] <oCean_> micca: this is not the channel for such discussion. If you like, you can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[23:28] <judget> Does anyone know where i could get a free email accouint to use with evolution?
[23:28] <DigitalKiwi> !ops _ADiOS__
[23:28] <_Whipper> oCean_: and you should get some sense of humor, or at least not being so tight***.
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> wut
[23:29] <gnorris> _ADiOS__ that is unacceptable
[23:29] <charitwo> DigitalKiwi: you only need to do that once, stop spamming it
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> I thought it didn't work
[23:29] <edthefox> !abuse
[23:29] <mak3shift> amarok is the best IMO, full support for visualizations is a huge pluss
[23:29] <gnorris> Anyone Here Need Help
[23:29] <mak3shift> my ubuntu interface isn't showing anymore, and i can't access my shares or else i'd just backup data and reinstall help!
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> since it was all like "sorry I don't know anything"
[23:29] <LjL> DigitalKiwi: it's !ops | reason
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> ahh
[23:29] <DigitalKiwi> ty
[23:29] <micca> oCean_, I agree. I realized only after he said .pub ( or did you mean the itunes.. ah ok sorry.. justr replied to _Whipper 's hate for itu)
[23:29] <_VIM_> gotta hate that missing pipe command in ubottu factoids :)
[23:30] <gnorris> Who Here Needs Help
[23:30] <DigitalKiwi> yeah, why can't ubottu be a smart bot
[23:30] <gnorris> Helping People Who Needs Help
[23:30] <oCean_> micca: actually, both. This is a large channel, and it would be unworkable if all topics where open to discussion. Thanks for understanding.
[23:30] <gnorris> Who Needs Help
[23:30] <Rey_> Dunno. Downloaded 9.04 beta this evening, and by gods it's the first ever ubuntu I've tried that doesn't make me feel like a gimp
[23:30] <LjL> DigitalKiwi: the fact that it works differently from the one you have in your channel doesn't mean it's not "smart". now, thanks for the ops call, but back on topic
[23:30] <DigitalKiwi> gnorris: since you are so eager to help could you rewrite ubottu to not need | ?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> mak3shift: get the xul remote script and you can control what amarok plays from anaother pc
[23:30] <Baversjo> I need serious help as I'm locked out of my server.
[23:31] <_Whipper> gnorris: stop that
[23:31] <_VIM_> Baversjo, ouch
[23:31] <mak3shift> @parsnip its much easier than that, remote desktop, and a vnc viewer is all you need
[23:31] <DigitalKiwi> Baversjo: define locked out
[23:31] <micca> oCean_, no problem (I just have this idiotacy gene which makes me wander off topic at many a time.. will keep an eye on offtopic channel)
[23:31] <LjL> gnorris: if someone needs help, they'll ask. no need to spam offers for help
[23:31] <mak3shift> and you can control your whole ubuntu install
[23:31] <mak3shift> my ubuntu interface isn't showing anymore, and i can't access my shares or else i'd just backup data and reinstall help!
[23:31] <lasse> Baversjo: i hope you have direct access -- boot into init 1 and change password
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> mak3shift: no need, the xul remote is lighter on resources
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> mak3shift: especially with bandwidth
[23:31] <Baversjo> When i configured iptables i specified SOURCE port 22, not destination port. So now i can't access is. And The server is in france and Im in Sweden.
[23:32] <btw0rm> hi
[23:32] <mak3shift> well, its over my LAN, and i use it from several different windows machines
[23:32] <Baversjo> Anyway to bypass that? :)
[23:32] <edthefox> Baversjo: not really
[23:32] <btw0rm> how can i install kde4.2 with all of its packages, and will it slow down my machine to do so?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> mak3shift: try it, you wont be disappointed. it unfortunately requires firefox to use the client plugin
[23:32] <DigitalKiwi> do you have any friends in france? :)
[23:33] <Linux7657>  ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]  Having trubles getting this too work with Tv out... Works great with compiz and everything on monitor but wants to use vesa driver for tv dont understand any work arunds please!!!
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[23:33] <_Whipper> btw0rm: 4.2 stable yet? dont think so..
[23:34] <judget> !evolution
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper: runs a treat here
[23:34] <btw0rm> any ideas?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !info evolution
[23:34] <twolane> Baversjo: try ssh user@serveryouwanttouse -R22222:22  then on serveryouwanttouse, ssh localhost -p 22222
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> btw0rm: sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[23:35] <judget> ActionPartnership : do u know where i can get a free email account to use with evolution?
[23:35] <gnorris> Action
[23:35] <gnorris> Judget
[23:35] <twolane> judget: gmail.com
[23:35] <gnorris> nevermind
[23:35] <mak3shift> my ubuntu interface isn't showing anymore, and i can't access my shares or else i'd just backup data and reinstall help!
[23:35] <judget> ok thanks
[23:35] <Nart> asl
[23:36] <LjL> !asl | nart
[23:36] <lukinfore> hi
[23:36] <micca> ARRRRGGGGGGGGG : now amarok has stalled on 44% and just stays there :(:(:(:( (when scanning my music lib) _Whipper , mrwes, ActionParsnip any ideas?? :/
[23:36] <_Whipper> ActionParsnip: just flew over.. your point was ?-)
[23:36] <lukinfore> is there cli tool to get mime types list?
[23:36] <micca> ub
[23:36] <_Whipper> micca: your machine is dead ..
[23:36] <LjL> lukinfore: cat /etc/mime.types
[23:36] <casper_> does any one know a website that has the AWN dock Code to download in teminal
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper: kde may run poorly on your system but many use 4.2 just fine. admittedly you can only call it as you see it.
[23:36] <micca> _Whipper, may it RIP
[23:37] <casper_> any one please?
[23:37] <lukinfore> oh thanks
[23:37] <micca> _Whipper, mrwes, ActionParsnip : forget it.. it after ages has jumped to 45 :P
[23:37] <LjL> casper_: is that an Ubuntu question?
[23:37] <gnorris> casper_
[23:37] <micca> gosh..
[23:37] <lukinfore> another question
[23:37] <casper_> yes is is ?.?
[23:37] <gnorris> i will help you private im
[23:37] <_Whipper> ActionParsnip: then why so many distros dont use it? becose the unstability..
[23:37] <casper_> it is ****
[23:37] <LjL> gnorris: please help in the channel.
[23:38] <LjL> casper_: well, i think an ubuntu question would be "how can i install AWN in ubuntu?"
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper: i can name a good few, GTK is more documented but some simply fear the weird licensing of Qt
[23:38] <lukinfore> when Iogout from vt, it autoswitch me to x( vt7)
[23:38] <lukinfore> how to change this behavior?
[23:38] <edthefox> !info awn
[23:38] <lockd> !info avant-window-navigator
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> _Whipper: just because a distros default desktop isnt kde doesnt mean it cant be installed, linux is customisable remember
[23:39] <_Whipper> ActionParsnip: ok, im over and out of this discussion :) >
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> cool
[23:39] <micca> hehe
[23:39] <micca> hmm.. by the way.. does ubuntu have an a la objectdock kind of style thing?
[23:39] <dforouhari> Hello. Have a question regarding installation of RoR.
[23:39] <eros331> I'm setting up a LTSP server and logging in via XDMCP hangs after GDM authenticates me.  How can I trouble shoot this issue.  I've already checked /var/log/auth.log and /home/user/.Xsession-errors and nothing.
[23:41] <eros331> BTW, I'm testing using Xming at the moment.  It doesn't hang at all when logging in from the console.
[23:41] <micca> _Whipper, well ok.. here goes: amarok : devise is busy.. xine (empty nothign follows) audio device.. hmm but sound works if i start a video in vlc
[23:41] <jpubuntunub> when I install nvidia restricted drivers I get a command line at boot
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> dforouhari: whats RoR?
[23:41] <jpubuntunub> ruby on rails
[23:41] <dforouhari> RoR = Ruby On Rails
[23:41] <_Whipper> micca: ActionParsnip  will guide you :)
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> micca: i had that myself, ended up reinstalling intrepid then upgrading to jaunty
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> micca: i think its something about the sound device choice in amarok
[23:42] <randum_user> exit
[23:42] <Flaret> hi hoe can i install latest amarok?
[23:42] <micca> ActionParsnip, oh dear.. reinstall an os cos i can;t play an mp3??? :O hmm.. now when i chose another mp3 says support not bla bla.. so i go to get mp3 support.. add my password to sudo i assume but can't lock
[23:42] <caleb_> Hi guys.
[23:42] <_Whipper> micca: dont :)
[23:42] <edthefox> anyone know where i can get instructions on how to set up a framebuffer on my laptop, i'm a big fan of the framebuffer setup on the gentoo netinstall cd
[23:42] <micca> Flaret: I just did sudo apt-get install amarok (I assume it gets the latest stable release)
[23:43] <micca> _Whipper, dont what?
[23:43] <eros331> I need help trouble shooting gnome-session startup.  Anyone, Bueller?
[23:43] <Flaret> but i think there's a new one
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> micca: well it was a must for me as it is this particular systems main function. to run amarok + xul remote
[23:43] <casper_> does neone know about Jokosher ????.?
[23:43] <Linux7657> radeon 9200 tv out tv setup any help keeps loading vesa
[23:43] <jpubuntunub> Ok conficker infected my ubuntu 8.10 how do I get rid of it?>
[23:43] <micca> ok ActionParsnip .. sigh.. so as in the 90s I still have to ' hack' linux for ages just to get something 'simple' working ya ^^
[23:43] <dforouhari> My questions is this: I am running Ub 8.10 and used Synaptic Pkg Mgr to install all the relevant pkgs. It claimed that all the pkgs were installed successfully. Question: none of the installed RoR sw show up under 'Applications' meun. Any idea why?
[23:44] <micca> conficker?? LOLOL
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> micca: i'd join #amarok for better advise
[23:44] <jpubuntunub> yea
[23:44] <_Whipper> micca: do something that foolish, as installing the whole syst. again just becose of an player :)
[23:44] <micca> ok ActionParsnip  thank you very much
[23:44] <micca> _Whipper, ye wasn' planning to
[23:44] <jpubuntunub> how the heck do I get rid of conficker?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> micca: its linux, no garuntees, no SLA
[23:45] <caleb_> So I'm having a problem. Torrents wont work on my computer. I'm running on ubuntu 8.10, using transmission (although I've tried all of the other torrents in the add/remove section) and can't download torrents. It says something about 'files can't be found' right when I open transmission! Anyways, I'm dual booted to xp as well, and torrents work just fine on there. Any suggestions?
[23:45] <jpubuntunub> when I install nvidia restricted drivers I get a command line at boot
[23:46] <Flaret> so anyone know how to install the latest amarok?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> caleb_: can you get the exact error please
[23:46] <caleb_> Yes, one second
[23:46] <Linux7657> dont it sucks use the first
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Flaret: sudo apt-get install amarok
[23:46] <Flaret> but is it latest?
[23:47] <jpubuntunub> haha
[23:47] <oCean_> !latest | Flaret
[23:47] <Iceman_B^Ltop> halp! I just installed the "mutt" package, what is this exim4daemon that started ? is it a security risk ?
[23:47] <oCean_> Linux7657: tone down your language, please
[23:47] <caleb_> ActionParsnip: it says - Data not fully available in transmission next to the 'none of 64.8 mb'
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Flaret: you could use neon
[23:48] <edthefox> caleb_: I use rtorrent and it works great
[23:48] <caleb_> edthefox: I've tried every torrenting client readily available, they all have this error
[23:48] <gnorris> anyone need help
[23:48] <Iceman_B^Ltop> gnorris: me
[23:48] <gnorris> ok
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> caleb_: looks like a bug in 1.3  http://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=26842
[23:49] <FruitBasket> Could someone help with sfdisk? It appears to "truncate" the end of the drive: I can make a partition layout with fdisk and it works, but trying to clone it with sfdisk... well, http://pastebin.com/m3f9e23b6
[23:49] <Iceman_B^Ltop> please explain that the "exim4-daemon-light" thing is that just started on my server.I installed mutt
[23:49] <DMCA> I installed Ubuntu, and  it just gave me a terminal after the installation. I ran sudo apt-get gnome, and it installed all right. After that, upon reboot after I see "starting gnome display manager" the screen goes black.
[23:49] <DMCA> How do I fix this?
[23:49] <jonaskoelker> hi all.  My keycode/keysym mapping has changed in the intrepid->jaunty upgrade.  Now 111 and 116 are Up/Down.  On my debian box, Up/Down are 104 and 98.  Synergy transmits them as 104 and 98 as well (which has worked Just Fine before jaunty), so this means except the alphanumeric keys, I can't use my desktop's keyboard on my laptop (through synergy), which makes me a Sad Panda :(
[23:49] <jonaskoelker> how to fix?
[23:49] <jonaskoelker> ISTR this happening in the hairy->intrepid upgrade as well, and having to do with evdev and hal and all sorts of things that are Really Great(tm) and Incompatible(tm) and Breaks Your Current Setup(tm)
[23:49] <caleb_> ActionParsnip: thank you, but the problem was in all clients, is that just a coincidence?
[23:50] <jonaskoelker> ;)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> caleb_: not sure
[23:50] <caleb_> ActionParsnip: Guess I should try another client. What do you use?
[23:51] <twolane> DMCA: apt-cache search gnome, try gdm gnome-desktop blah blah
[23:51] <oCean_> jonaskoelker: since jaunty is still beta, all issues/discussions go in #ubuntu+1 channel
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> caleb_: ktorrent but i use kde
[23:51] <thecommutist> .bye
[23:51] <caleb_> ActionParsnip: Ah. Would bittorrent be a better choice?
[23:51] <georgy_28> DMCA: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:51] <Iceman_B^Ltop> gnorris?
[23:51] <jonaskoelker> oCean_: cool.  Well, actually I just upgraded from H to I.  How to fix? :p
[23:51] <edthefox> caleb_: try rtorrent it's cli, very simple and very dependable
[23:51] <dforouhari> Trying again: Any idea why after installing RoR pkgs (using Synaptic) on Ub 8.10, the name of newlysinstalled software (mysql, apacahe2, ...) do NOT show up undre Applications?
[23:52] <gnorris> hea iceman
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[23:52] <caleb_> edthefox: thanks.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[23:52] <gnorris> someone parted me rude rude person
[23:52] <Iceman_B^Ltop> oh
[23:52] <Flaret> so i cannot install the latest amarok?
[23:52] <oCean_> jonaskoelker: Point taken. *Is* it fixed in H-I upgrade? Or was it never?
[23:53] <jesse_roger> bit of an odd question to ask here but does anyone here know c++ and could help me with a small problem?
[23:53] <Wi> what's the problem?
[23:53] <jonaskoelker> oCean_: I think I worked around the "upgrade" by doing things The Old Way(tm), but I forgot how
[23:54] <DMCA_> My internet crashed
[23:54] <DMCA_> I installed Ubuntu, and  it just gave me a terminal after the installation. I ran sudo apt-get gnome, and it installed all right. After that, upon reboot after I see "starting gnome display manager" the screen goes black.
[23:54] <DMCA_> What where you guys saying about how to fix it?
[23:54] <mrwes> ouch
[23:54] <jpubuntunub> what is the default root pas?
[23:54] <jonaskoelker> oCean_: not being 100% sure what you're asking, the answer is yes: you can have a fully functional intrepid system and have the old key{sym,code} maps
[23:54] <LjL> !root > jpubuntunub    (jpubuntunub, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:55] <jpubuntunub> I
[23:55] <oCean_> jonaskoelker: No, no.. I think you understood me. I meant that if you worked your way in H-I upgrade, maybe you knew the fix/workaround and try in I-J upgrade
[23:56] <jpubuntunub> Everytime I install the restricted nvidia drivers I boot to a command line
[23:56] <oCean_> jonaskoelker: however, you might have a better shot in #ubuntu+1.
[23:57] <oCean_> jonaskoelker: only suggesting because some people there have recent upgrade experience.
[23:57] <gaby> hello
[23:59] <_Whipper> hello
[23:59] <caleb_> ActionParsnip: Haha, while I was installing rtorrent transmission started working again
[23:59] <gaby> can somebody help me?
[23:59] <gaby> i have some information stored on my windows partition but also viewable from ubuntu
[23:59] <gaby> and i cant log into windows, i want to mount an external hard drive to get all my files from ubuntu
[23:59] <gaby> how can i forcefully mount it? it says windows is using it or something but its not
[23:59] <FloodBot1> gaby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <gaby> ok ok c:u sorry
[23:59] <caleb_> gaby: it's a bot, haha.