[00:05] <slimjimflim> can anybody tell me what the xubuntu equivalent to ubuntu's 'system > preferences > sound' would be?
[00:06] <slimjimflim> running hardy lts
[00:17] <slimjimflim> nm, got it
[00:21] <mikubuntu> my friends windows machine is dogging out (surprize) so i went over with some disks to see if i could set him str8 wit some linux, but... machine doesn't want to completely boot, tried ubuntu, xubuntu, knoppix, and finally puppy, but they all start to boot and then get hung up.... i might suspect something wrong with hard drive, but puppy is sposed to run live completely in ram, so i thought...
[00:21] <mikubuntu> ...it should have booted up.  any suggestions?
[00:28] <zoredache> if you are trying to boot livecds, they all run from ram...
[00:29] <zoredache> does he have enough memory to boot?  For most of those you need at 256mb
[00:30] <zoredache> you might also want to try running memtest86 to see if his ram is good
[00:41] <UKGent> Just downloaded and installed moin - works fine but do you have to run it from the terminal all the while you are using it - it is effectively a server, as I understand it but the Desktop Version runs under the Local Host - of course.
[00:42] <UKGent> I am just running it to evaluate the software - not thinking of installing it on a publicly hosted web server at present.
[00:44] <UKGent> I suppose you could press Alt F2 and just Run it.... rather than invoking a terminal - I am not really sure how that works.
[00:44] <zoredache> what is a moin?
[00:44] <UKGent> zore it is a Wiki Server - I think MoinMoin
[00:45] <zoredache> and how are you starting it?
[00:45] <UKGent> by running it from its own directory from the terminal - it then acts as a local host and you access it from Firefox or whatever
[00:46] <zoredache> create a launcher to start it, or build an init script.
[00:47] <zoredache> also note, if you add a '&' after soemthing you start in a terminal it will be backgrounded and you can close the terminal
[00:48] <UKGent> It is only a Desktop evaluation version - I think it is designed to run from a public server in its full form...   Ah  zoredache - thanks - it is that sort of syntax that you don't know as a newbie
[00:49] <UKGent> that is what I want to do initially - just run it in the background
[00:51] <UKGent> and you are right - I need to create a launcher or init script - that would be a good beginners exercise !
[01:21] <gorgut> test
[01:37] <mikubuntu> zoredache: sorry i missed your answer in real time, i was looking for my screen to blink but you din't use my name so it din't i guess
[01:37] <mikubuntu> zoredache: so, ram can 'go bad' too?
[02:14] <mika-keks> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeello :P is here anybody awaken?
[02:18] <Mood> mikubuntu: ram can go bad
[03:47] <J_Litewski> i gots a display problem
[03:48] <J_Litewski> i can't dual monitor
[03:48] <J_Litewski> it's eigther both the lappy monitor and the CRT or just the CRT
[03:50] <J_Litewski> i can't have one thing going on one monitor while another is going on on the other
[03:51] <cody-somerville> What kind of graphics card do you have?
[03:51] <J_Litewski> SiS intergrated
[03:51] <J_Litewski> i'll pull up xorg.conf
[03:52] <J_Litewski> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[03:54] <J_Litewski> also note, if you go and screw with /boot/menu.lst, make sure your default is set correctly
[03:54] <J_Litewski> i had memtest86+ boot when I turned on my lappy today
[04:01] <J_Litewski> cody-somerville, i rebooted the lappy, checked xorg.conf, pressed Fn+F2, everything that i could think of
[04:01] <cody-somerville> ugh
[04:01] <cody-somerville> Anyhow, it is possible
[04:01] <cody-somerville> You simply need to configure it :)
[04:01] <J_Litewski> which means maunually putting it in xorg.conf?
[04:02] <cody-somerville> I hope not
[04:02] <cody-somerville> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[04:02] <J_Litewski> 9.04 beta
[04:02] <cody-somerville> And Applications > Settings > Display won't let you do that?
[04:02] <J_Litewski> nope
[04:02] <J_Litewski> only shows Display1
[04:03] <J_Litewski> err... Screen1
[04:03] <cody-somerville> Sounds like you should report a bug :)
[04:03] <J_Litewski> yea
[04:08] <Darth_Tux> hi all
[04:09] <J_Litewski> cody-somerville, i can still display to the screen. does that mean anything?
[04:11] <Darth_Tux> do i need to install a driver for this > Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller to get 1280x768 screen resolution?
[04:12] <J_Litewski> Darth_Tux, is it in the restricted drivers window?
[04:13] <Darth_Tux> J_Litewski, i dont know
[04:13] <J_Litewski> check Applications/Settings/Hardware Drivers
[04:13] <Darth_Tux> says noe are being used on this system
[04:14] <J_Litewski> try checking in Synaptics
[04:14] <J_Litewski> searching 'intel'
[04:15] <J_Litewski> see if anything comes up
[04:16] <Darth_Tux> J_Litewski, the xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[04:17] <J_Litewski> anything that matches your adapter?
[04:17] <Darth_Tux> yeah, that has the display drivers in the package
[04:18] <J_Litewski> hmm... i'm going to check intel's site to see if they have a OSS page
[04:18] <Darth_Tux> the xorg.conf seems lacking
[04:19] <J_Litewski> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ has linux drivers for intel chips
[04:20] <Darth_Tux> the driver seems to be installed
[04:21] <J_Litewski> xf86-video-intel?
[04:21] <Darth_Tux> http://pastebin.ca/1379592
[04:22] <J_Litewski> Darth_Tux, it's running 'basic' drivers
[04:22] <Darth_Tux> ok, how do i get it to run the right driver?
[04:22] <J_Litewski> it works for most systems, but on some, it disables some things
[04:22] <J_Litewski> just a sec
[04:23] <J_Litewski> check to see if xf86-video-intel is installed
[04:23] <Darth_Tux> it isnt installed or available
[04:23] <J_Litewski> ok
[04:25] <Darth_Tux> is there a way to reconfig xorg.conf to use the driver it needs?
[04:25] <J_Litewski> i'm not sure
[04:26] <J_Litewski> Darth_Tux, try asking in #xorg
[04:28] <J_Litewski> Darth_Tux, i can help you get the package you need
[04:29] <Darth_Tux> what package?
[04:29] <J_Litewski> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/driver/xf86-video-intel-2.6.0.tar.bz2 is the tarball for xf86-video-intel
[04:30] <J_Litewski> i checked and it supports the 945GM series
[04:31] <Darth_Tux> so does the driver i have installed
[04:42] <J_Litewski> Darth_Tux, this is the better driver for it
[04:42] <J_Litewski> you know how to install a tarball, correct?
[04:42] <Darth_Tux> i used to
[04:43] <J_Litewski> lets see
[04:43] <Darth_Tux> J_Litewski, i dont doubt it, but the xorg.conf has to point it
[04:45] <Darth_Tux> well, it is late i need to get, ty J_Litewski
[05:28] <J_Litewski> was there a net split?
[06:15] <_bobJR_> ive got a question im using xubuntu and thunar is freezing real buggy as it seems im using 8.10 xubuntu the newest one besides the beta
[06:15] <_bobJR_> can someone please tell me how to make pcmanfm the default file manager
[06:16] <_bobJR_> so when i mount my hard drive external it opens in pcmanfm
[06:17] <_bobJR_> i made a short cut to pcmanfm on my taskbar and it works but i want it to work with my external as well my flash and firefox
[10:17] <tavasti> I have NetworkManager Applet
[10:17] <tavasti> is there any possibility to 'kick' it, or ask it to connect right away to desired network?
[10:18] <tavasti> sometimes it doesn't connect even the network is available?
[10:20] <gabkdlly> tavasti: hi
[10:21] <gabkdlly> tavasti: as far as I recall, NetworkManager *should* connect to networks automatically, if you have previously configured them
[10:23] <tavasti> yes, but there is sometimes slight difference of theory and practise
[12:30] <Dubaschu> Hi, I've got Ubuntu server running live for employees but I keep getting an a error every second into /var/log/messages -> Apr  2 12:30:25 srvdubuat kernel: [ 2103.531362] /dev/vmmon[5044]: /dev/rtc open failed: -2.
[12:30] <Dubaschu> Can someone be able to help?
[12:31] <Dubaschu> I reviewed the furoms however was unable to find a solution.
[12:32] <gabkdlly> Dubaschu: you might get a quicker response in #ubuntu
[12:32] <Dubaschu> Thanks!
[12:32] <gabkdlly> Dubaschu: you have to have some patience with irs ;)
[12:32] <gabkdlly> irc
[12:42] <genii> Also the irs
[12:43] <gabkdlly> :)
[14:18] <Sinister> whats the  w32codecs for 64 bit ?
[14:46] <forces> o7
[14:56] <brandonban6> How would I write a shell script that would allow me to choose between two different commands to run? would that be difficult?
[15:00] <brandonban6> for instance (and I know this is lame) but I connect with VPNC to my corporate network. I would like to write a script that allows me to choose connect or disconnect, and then run the appropriate command based on my choice.
[15:31] <juan> hello
[15:31] <juan> I did an update and now my panels are gone?
[15:33] <ablomen> juan, alt+f2 xfce4-panel
[15:34] <juan> so the panels are there but everything is squished together... is there a reset command?
[15:47] <exon_> can anybody help me i lost menu on left corner on screen how do ii get it back??
[15:47] <gorgut> exon_, right click on your panel, go to add item, scroll to the bottom and choose "XFCE Menu"
[16:01] <quuuux_> hi, a couple of days ago I've been toying around with xubuntu 9.04 beta and gigolo
[16:02]  * cody-somerville nods.
[16:02] <quuuux_> for getting e.g. sftp connections to work I had to follow the instructions on http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6
[16:02] <quuuux_> I was wondering whether it would be a good idea to included gvfs-fuse in the xubuntu default install
[16:02] <quuuux_> to have them work out of the box
[16:03] <quuuux_> meaning that one can just click on a mount a have Thunar popping up
[17:07] <samiam> my mouse touchpad doesn't work after a xubuntu crash and a hard restart
[17:08] <samiam> it's on a laptop
[17:59] <chewit> I'm using Xubuntu 9.04 beta, login time is very long compared to 8.10
[17:59] <chewit> is this a bug?
[18:01] <mprice> how much longer?
[18:02] <chewit> alot, i can't give u an exact time
[18:02] <chewit> its double the time
[18:03] <chewit> boot up is quick, just login is slow
[18:03] <mprice> hmm.......
[18:04] <mprice> do you mean once you enter your username and password?
[18:04] <zoredache> was this a upgrade or clean install?  Have you tried creating another user and seeing if it happens for the other user?
[18:05] <chewit> both, loading up the login screen and logging in
[18:05] <chewit> its a clean install using ext4
[18:06] <zoredache> does it a take a long time to login at a console (press ctrl-alt-f1 to get one)
[18:14] <chewit> ok, i will try that
[18:14] <chewit> brb
[18:24] <chewit> same login in time using the command line
[18:25] <zoredache> hrm...  so your at the console, and you type in your username, and password, hit enter and then wait for a long time?
[18:26] <zoredache> you haven't done anything to setup network based authentication against a directory server, or nis have you?
[18:27] <chewit> no
[18:27] <chewit> using the console, takes the same time as using gdm
[18:33] <zoredache> I am not sure why that would happen...
[18:33] <chewit> is no one else seen a difference in login time compared to 8.10 & 9.04
[18:34] <charlie-tca> Mine is considerably shorter
[18:35] <charlie-tca> But that is in ext3
[18:35] <chewit> thats what i would have thought, since of ext4
[18:35] <chewit> just wonder if its just a bug in xfce
[18:35] <chewit> i could try gnome
[18:35] <zoredache> if it was a bug in xfce, you wouldn't get it at a command line
[18:35] <chewit> ah
[18:36] <charlie-tca> That also eliminates the artwork
[18:36] <zoredache> I would guess something related to name-resolution or pam
[18:36] <chewit> it doesn't bother me too much, i woild much rather a quick deskop, and not a fast boot up
[18:36] <chewit> but i though i would mention it to you all
[18:38] <zoredache> try this... rename or delete your /etc/resolv.conf, and then try logging in again
[18:38] <charlie-tca> I will keep watching for it. I can also try formatting a couple drives to ext4 and check it out.
[18:39] <chewit> k
[18:40] <chewit> also, ctrl alt backspace doesn't work
[18:40] <chewit> has this been disabled
[18:40] <terrylarge> looking for advice to get my wireless to work.  Using Ubuntu on an Acer Asprire One.  The wireless card does not turn on.  Have attempted to get a new driver (Atheos 5x) but the wireless will not turn on.
[18:40] <zoredache> I think I read somewhere, that they where going to disable that
[18:41] <chewit> deleted the file
[18:41] <chewit> will try now
[18:41] <chewit> brb
[18:46] <charlie-tca> C-A-B was upstreams decision. See the beta release notes to re-enable it.
[19:07] <Sinister> how do i turn on my tray icons i have no tray
[19:07] <chewit> zoredache, the login in time is fine now, by just deleteing that file
[19:09] <TheSheep> Sinister: right-click on the panel, click add, select 'system notification area'
[19:11] <zoredache> chewit: yeah, but deleting that file isn't a permanent fix....
[19:11] <zoredache> that file is needed for normal network usage...
[19:11] <chewit> oh
[19:11] <zoredache> it does tell you that your issue has something to do with name-resolution though...
[19:12] <chewit> is there going to be a fix coming out
[19:12] <zoredache> I have no idea.  I don't even know what the problem is...
[19:12] <chewit> oh
[19:34] <brandonban6> Sinister, what do you mean you have no tray? There is no panel (or bar) across the bottom and top of the screen?
[19:45] <ball> Will Xubuntu run nicely in a Xen domU?
[19:47] <rocko> XUBUNTU KICKS ASS
[19:48] <ball> rocko: it's really rather good.
[19:48] <rocko> ball how are you ?
[19:49] <ball> rocko: my head hurts, other than that I'm okay.
[19:49] <rocko> I see why is that?
[19:51] <ball> rocko: probably something I ate.
[19:52] <ball> ...though it could be the family virus
[19:52] <rocko> I see
[19:52] <rocko> you GOT AIDS?
[19:52] <brandonban6> yes! Now if I had browser that used active x and flash didn't stink..........linux would be perfect!..........I'll take 90% amazing though
[19:53] <ball> rocko: AIDS isn't a virus...but no, I don't have H.I.V.
[19:53] <ball> People use Active-X?
[19:54] <brandonban6> ball..........only for tech support........on you guessed it......windows boxes .........Logmein rescue or skyfex, remote tech support use active x.
[19:56] <ball> brandonban6: that may be why I've not come across it.
[19:57] <brandonban6> ball, it actually runs really nice, user goes to website, pull an ID, I plug there ID from the support page and then have instant access to their machine. Still searching for a just as easy non-windows dependent solution though.
[19:58] <ball> brandonban6: ah, I see.  What does Xubuntu use for remote support?
[19:58] <ball> VNC?
[20:01] <brandonban6> ball yep, and vnc/hamachi work great.........but I have some users who can probably barely dress themselves in the morning, let alone install and configure vnc/hamachi.
[20:02] <ball> brandonban6: I'm fortunate in that I'm in a controlled environment, so I install VNC for the users.
[20:02] <ball> Can't do that in the wild.
[20:03] <brandonban6> for sure.
[20:11] <brandonban6> I really want a job where linux is actually used, I get stuck in these window environment places........really want out!
[20:12] <ball> I can understand that.  My first trial of Linux on the desktop was shot down because nobody could print to the network printer.
[20:12] <ball> ...that's a show-stopper.
[20:12] <ball> I don't currently have Linux on the server there, but I'm open to the idea.
[20:12] <ball> ...especially if it lets me talk to the RAID controller.
[20:18] <lesshaste> how do I  change the GTK+ theme (specifically the theme engine) to a GTK+ theme that doesn't use clearlooks
[20:22] <quuuux_> lesshaste: choose a theme (such as Mist, Industrial, Murrine, ...) that uses another engine in the "Settings --> Appearance" menu
[20:25] <lesshaste> thanks
[20:25] <lesshaste> how do I tell which uses clearlooks?
[20:27] <quuuux_> uhmm... the only way to make sure is to have a look at the theme config which you're most likely to find in "/usr/share/themes/*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" in case it's a theme that's installed system-wide
[20:28] <quuuux_> look for the "engine" keyword in the config file
[20:43] <lesshaste> quuuux_, ok thanks
[20:45] <bittin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090402  if somone cares
[20:50] <quuuux_> lesshaste: you're welcome
[20:53] <slow-motion> hi
[20:54] <chewit> can someone confirm a bug in Xubuntu 9.04
[20:55] <chewit> the mixer plugin, it doesn't work at all
[20:55] <chewit> when you adjust the volume using the plugin, it doesn't do any think
[20:55] <J_Litewski> chewit, the mixer plugin in 9.04 has some problems
[20:55] <chewit> ok, so they it is a known bug
[20:56] <cody-somerville> Mixer plugin works just fine in Jaunty or me
[20:56] <J_Litewski> for most people, it crashes when you shut down
[20:56] <J_Litewski> I had problems with it
[20:56] <J_Litewski> sometimes it crashes, sometimes not
[20:56] <rocko> http://reprobate.se/pics/animated/thief.gif
[20:56] <chewit> for me, it doesn't work
[20:57] <chewit> i am trying to adjust the volume, but it does nothing
[20:57] <chewit> i have to adjust it via the mxer
[20:57] <chewit> mixer*
[20:57] <J_Litewski> what do you have? a desktop or laptop?
[20:58] <cody-somerville> You need to set the correct settings on your applet
[20:58] <J_Litewski> for me, if i have something plugged into the Headphones port of my laptop, i need to adjust the volume using the Headphone slider
[20:59] <J_Litewski> because the master volume silder doesn't work
[20:59] <J_Litewski> otherwise, it works fine
[21:00] <bigzed> Do someone know when they release the 9.04 final?
[21:00] <J_Litewski> minus the fact that i can't adjust the volume using the Fn+F1/F9/F10/F11 keys
[21:00] <chewit> its a desktop, the mixer is configured correctlu
[21:00] <chewit> i will report it in launchpad
[21:01] <chewit> lol, works now, you might be right cody ,sorry
[21:02] <J_Litewski> bigzed, i believe around April 20th
[21:02] <J_Litewski> 24th if i'm not mistaken
[21:02] <charlie-tca> !release
[21:03] <J_Litewski> brb, making Ramen Noodles
[21:03] <charlie-tca> !jaunty
[21:03] <J_Litewski> i was close
[21:03] <J_Litewski> one day off :P
[21:03] <bigzed> J_Litewski, thanks for the answer
[21:03] <J_Litewski> np bigzed
[21:04] <bigzed> I see you all use 9.04 right now. So is it very unstable?
[21:04] <J_Litewski> not really
[21:04] <J_Litewski> i like it
[21:04] <chewit> cody, could you explain the decision to use Gnome notifcation system instead of the new Xfce Noifyd and Gnome Power Management and not Xfce
[21:04] <chewit> in 904
[21:05] <cody-somerville> There is no such thing as the gnome notification system
[21:05] <chewit> well, the standard one then, but it is aimed for gnome, why not use the xfce one?
[21:05] <chewit> same with power management
[21:05] <cody-somerville> and the Xfce power manager is only the "Xfce" power manager cause someone tried to leverage the brand of Xfce to popularize their NIH
[21:06] <cody-somerville> Not to mention the serious UI and usability issues with it
[21:06] <cody-somerville> We get gnome power manager for free because the Ubuntu team manages it
[21:06] <cody-somerville> No extra work required
[21:06] <cody-somerville> No one on the Xubuntu team is really a power management expert
[21:06] <chewit> ok, i have found it fine to use, and lightweight.
[21:06] <chewit> but i understand
[21:06] <cody-somerville> So just plugging in some other random application would be rather irresponsible
[21:07] <cody-somerville> As for xfnotifyd, that may be an option for Karmic
[21:07] <J_Litewski> lol, i killed the terminal
[21:08] <J_Litewski> aperently, sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade crashes the terminal
[21:09] <J_Litewski> whoo, another kernel...
[21:10] <cody-somerville> J_Litewski, is that reproducible?
[21:10] <quuuux_> interesting effect with the mixer... if i press the "Quit" button in the mixer window it freezes, if i hit the close button of the window it closes just fine
[21:10] <quuuux_> does anyone else see that behavior?
[21:11] <cody-somerville> Nope
[21:11] <cody-somerville> quuuux_, , is that reproducible?
[21:12] <quuuux_> looks like it is... let me check on another machine
[21:13] <cody-somerville> quuuux_, Install the debugging package and see if you can get backtrace
[21:13] <quuuux_> will do
[21:13] <J_Litewski> cody-somerville, did you try it?
[21:14] <chewit> cody, wouldn't it be better to integrate more than follow Gnome. i have been using Xubuntu for over a year and to me it seems Xubuntu just follows what Ubuntu does, and not use the same method as Kubuntu.
[21:14] <cody-somerville> chewit, we have limited resources so we try to take advantage of shared components
[21:14] <cody-somerville> As our development team grows, we'll be able to do more
[21:14] <charlie-tca> quuuux_: I can not reproduce that on a fresh 9.04 install
[21:15] <chewit> using Xfce apps, maybe a better than using applications from Gnome. Far better integration and following the aim of the project to be lightweight.
[21:15] <J_Litewski> Xubuntu is slowly starting to become independent from gnome
[21:17] <cody-somerville> What is an "Xfce" app?
[21:18] <cody-somerville> What integration does Xfce4 power manager provides that the gnome power manager doesn't?
[21:18] <chewit> the applications which are used in the Xfce desktop, which are designed to look and work with Xfce
[21:19] <chewit> well, I have been wanted xubuntu to use the xfce power manager, cause it is lighter and its integrated ( as i keep saying)
[21:19] <cody-somerville> Xfce and Gnome both use the gtk toolkit
[21:19] <cody-somerville> They both use the gnome toolkit
[21:20] <cody-somerville> So I don't see how an application cab specific to Xfce
[21:20] <chewit> oh right. didn't know that
[21:20] <chewit> ;)
[21:20] <cody-somerville> *can be
[21:20] <cody-somerville> guh
[21:20] <cody-somerville> my keyboard is dying
[21:21] <J_Litewski> brb, restarting
[21:22] <quuuux_> cody-somerville: I've been trying the mixer on another machine (running an up-to-date 9.04) and there it works fine
[21:22] <cody-somerville> I did patch the applet today to fix a crasher
[21:28] <J_Litewski> cody-somerville, i just reproduced the tunnel update/upgrade terminal crash
[21:28] <cody-somerville> J_Litewski, does apport popup?
[21:28] <J_Litewski> well, it's more of a hang
[21:28] <J_Litewski> no
[21:28] <J_Litewski> it just sits there
[21:29] <cody-somerville> What happens if you press ctrl + c
[21:29] <cody-somerville> Is the UI responsive?
[21:29] <J_Litewski> yea
[21:29] <J_Litewski> i got the prompt again
[21:29] <cody-somerville> So its not a bug
[21:29] <J_Litewski> commands work
[21:29] <J_Litewski> well, the tunnel hangs
[21:30] <cody-somerville> Theres all sorts of stuff you can type into the terminal to cause it to "hang".
[21:30] <J_Litewski> if i do the update/upgrade tunnel again, it works
[21:30] <cody-somerville> | isn't tunnel
[21:30] <cody-somerville> | is pipe
[21:30] <J_Litewski> oh
[21:30] <jarnos> I tried to install Xubuntu jaunty from alternate cd. Text is corrupted in the (text mode) wizard.
[21:30] <J_Litewski> the pipe then
[21:30] <cody-somerville> You're trying to pipe the output of one command to another
[21:31] <J_Litewski> oh
[21:31] <J_Litewski> so... it's my bad that i did it then
[21:31] <charlie-tca> jarnos: what part of the wizard and which cd
[21:33] <jarnos> charlie-tca: i386. It is in the installation part. With somewhat older dev iso it was in check integrity part.
[21:33] <charlie-tca> 8.10, 9.04, or 8.04?
[21:34] <jarnos> charlie-tca: Jaunty, like mentioned above.
[21:35] <jarnos> charlie-tca: so 9.04
[21:36] <charlie-tca> I have not gotten corrupted text anywhere in the cd. Can you narrow down installation part some?
[21:37] <jarnos> charlie-tca: from the beginning.
[21:37] <charlie-tca> What language is it? Are you using English?
[21:37] <jarnos> charlie-tca: I was using Finnish
[21:38] <charlie-tca> File a bug against it, and make sure you state it is Finnish that corrupts. That will be a translation error, most likely.
[21:41]  * Hext thinks
[21:41] <quuuux_> cody-somerville: after some digging in the xfce4-mixer sources the problem seems to be gstreamer-related. xfce4-mixer hangs in _xfce_mixer_destory_mixer when calling "gst_element_set_state (GST_ELEMENT (mixer), GST_STATE_NULL);"
[21:42]  * Hext wants to use a 'lesser' WM than gnome
[21:42] <Hext> any recomendations other than fluxbox?
[21:43] <charlie-tca> xfwm, which comes in Xubuntu?
[21:43] <Hext> oops, yeah
[21:43] <jarnos> charlie-tca: I now chose English in the graphical screen, but thereafter Finnish in the wizard. Now the screen is not corrupted even if text is in Finnish.
[21:43] <Hext> something less graphical than XFWM
[21:44] <quuuux_> when hitting the window's close button the same problem occurs... just the window is closed before.
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Still a bug in the graphic screen, isn't it? It should not corrupt at any time
[21:45] <quuuux_> so it's probably more a problem of my system's hardward than xfce4-mixer. sorry for the noise
[21:49] <quuuux_> Hext: What are your requirements on the WM? Tiling or "regular"?
[21:49] <jarnos> charlie-tca: I can not test, as I am installing.
[22:03] <slow-motion> n8
[23:17] <Dante123> hi all, I setup a share folder between xubuntu 8.04 and my friends Vista pc.  Vista can put items in the share folder, but they show up as locked/read only on xubuntu.  How can I make it so that xubuntu can read and edit and do whatever to the files placed in there by Vista???
[23:18] <Dante123> And I want this to be a permanent setup
[23:18] <Dante123> so not a command having to be issued or permissions configured for every file
[23:32] <lukinfore> hi
[23:32] <lukinfore> how  to get mime types list installed?
[23:33] <lukinfore> found only assogiate, is there something cli?
[23:34] <lukinfore> Dante123, maybe you can add your user to group what those files belong to?