[00:15] <vegas513> hi everybody, i'm having a little bit of trouble with using a second monitor with kde, wondering if somebody can help
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[00:16] <vegas513> tyvm
[00:59] <Laeborg-lap> !9.04.1
[00:59] <Laeborg-lap> !9.03
[00:59] <Laeborg-lap> !9.04
[00:59] <LjL> !jaunty
[01:08] <Andre101> Hello people.. I have dist-upgrade'ed to 9.04, when I log in now all I get is a black background.. anyone know where to start to troubleshoot this?
[01:09] <Andre101> btw, kdm starts, the login screen is displayed
[01:11] <Lego> similar to me Andre, i just installed 8.10 and kdm boots put my password in then it freezes on the kde4.1 splash
[01:14] <Riesh> Andre101: first i dod not really recommend upgrading to a new distribution like that (especially not because it is BETA) ... But you can move the old ~/.kde dir to ~/kde-old-dir ... and see if a newly made .kde dir makes a differentce
[01:15] <Lego> Riesh, mefisto__ had me do that for my situation, and it didn't work, and he not online so what would you suggest trying after that?
[01:16] <Riesh> Lego: maybe a reconfigure of Xorg would make a difference ? ... not really sure ... when did your problem start?
[01:16] <Lego> from the first boot on the fresh install.  he did have me run a reconfigure aswell
[01:17] <Lego> the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is what he had me do.
[01:17] <Riesh> what kind of harware you have ? ... sure it is not broken ?
[01:18] <Riesh> Lego: that indeed i would also want you to do :-)
[01:18] <suffice> i didd a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a and it got rid of that unable to start graphics thing
[01:18] <Lego> yes i know its not broken.. its an intel board using the onboard video. I runs BSD/KDE3.5/Compiz fine.. so im wondering if it just can't handel xorg7.4 and kde4.1
[01:19] <Lego> I do have a radeon 2400HD installed but when i installed kubuntu with it being the primary card, i couldn't even get kdm to boot
[01:19] <Riesh> Mmmm maybe you can indeed try the way suffice points to, it will ask you a lot of questions though
[01:20] <Lego> will i be able to answer them :S
[01:20] <Riesh> OK ... try it
[01:21] <Lego> its running now
[01:22] <Lego> um ca-certificates.. trust new ones from authorites ? yes no ask?
[01:22] <Lego> picking ask
[01:24] <Lego> hehe ok.. not sure what i did.. but it looks like crap now...
[01:24] <Riesh> really ?
[01:24] <Riesh> what you mean?
[01:25] <Lego> well it changed from a nice looking config (clean lines bright colors) to a dull dos looking screen
[01:25] <Lego> it did it right after a font setup
[01:25] <Riesh> don't mention dos :-P please
[01:26] <Riesh> bash is really a lot different
[01:26] <Lego> lol but thats what it looks like, the easiest way to describe it
[01:26] <Lego> the dull blue and gray with 'tall' characters
[01:26] <Riesh> but can X run, thats the question :-)
[01:27] <Andre101> Riesh: I have moved the .kde dir, didn't help :(
[01:27] <Lego> isn't x running if kdm log in boots?
[01:27] <Riesh> Andre101: what kind of hw you have ?
[01:27] <Riesh> Lego ... yes
[01:27] <Riesh> Does kdm run?
[01:27] <Lego> so x runs it freezes after i try and log into kde
[01:28] <Lego> yes.
[01:28] <Andre101> Riesh: laptop, nvidia graphics card
[01:28] <Lego> like i boot the system.. kdm shows up i put my password in and it freezes on the kde4.1 splash screen right after it loads the hdd image
[01:29] <Riesh> Lego: sorry, then i am out of ideas
[01:29] <Riesh> anything you can find in .xsession-errors?
[01:29] <Riesh> or in /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[01:30] <Riesh> Andre101: you had nvidia module loaded before you upgrade ?
[01:30] <Lego> see, when i had bsd isntalled i ran kde3.5/compiz-fusion fine on the intel card. but when i upgrade the xorg 7.4 it skips the xorg-drivers 7.4, and x would boot but compiz would crash, and after forcing the drivers install all of it crashed...
[01:30] <Lego> i will have to wait to check the xorg.0.log
[01:31] <Lego> wait is it xorg.log.0 on ubuntu?
[01:31] <Riesh> Lego: ... uh, let me see
[01:32] <Riesh> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:32] <Riesh> sorry
[01:32] <Lego> its cool :P
[01:32] <Lego> so how long does this reconfigure take?
[01:33] <Riesh> um :-) ... not so long i think
[01:33] <Lego> lol you don't sound ver re-assuring :P
[01:33] <Lego> very*
[01:33] <Riesh> it's just going from one menu option into the other ... and at the end it will writeout the config files
[01:33] <Lego> ah
[01:34]  * Andre101 is thinking of just doing a clean install of 8.10, it's been a very long time since I have done a clean install
[01:34] <Riddell> 4.2.2 is out
[01:34] <Riesh> and in Jaunty
[01:34] <dwidmann_> yup, yup it is
[01:34] <Lego> it keeps spitting out unknown formats for fonts and stuff
[01:35] <Riesh> Lego: hmmm ... that doesn't sound good
[01:35] <Lego> unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
[01:36] <Lego> was one i could catch before they flew off the screen
[01:38] <Riesh> hmmm ... this last error you got from dpkg-reconfigure ?
[01:39] <Lego> yes but it keeps going.. it spits out like 6 of those in a row and keeps going 'dpkg-reconfigure -a'
[01:39] <joshjtl> i dont know whats going on here, i recently reinstalled jaunty kubuntu, and kde is running super super slow
[01:39] <joshjtl> ive dist-upgraded too
[01:39] <joshjtl> this is really really not cool
[01:39] <Riesh> sorry ... maybe you can break that off
[01:40] <Laeborg-lap> is there any big chances from 4.2 to 4.2.2 ?
[01:41] <Lego> ok its done
[01:41] <fosco_> Laeborg-lap: lots of bugfixes
[01:41] <Riesh> Lego: -a is standing for all  ... and in the manpage it says Reconfigure all installed packages that use debconf. Warning: this may take a long time.
[01:41] <Laeborg-lap> okay
[01:42] <Lego> its done im rebooting and hopeing for the best.. but i dont' think it will work.. i think they dropped support for my card in xorg 7.4 or it just can't handle kde4.1
[01:44] <Lego> nope, same thing.. freezes, right after it loads the hdd logo,
[01:45] <Riesh> mmm, so then check Xorg.0.log
[01:45] <Lego> yup just waiting for it to reboot.
[01:46] <Lego> nano /var/log/xorg.0.log
[01:46] <Lego> ?
[01:46] <Riesh> and ~/.xsession-error
[01:46] <Riesh> or cat
[01:46] <Riesh> or less
[01:46] <Lego> xorg.0.log is empty
[01:46] <Lego> new file
[01:47] <Riesh> there are more
[01:47] <Lego> so is ~/.xsession-error
[01:47] <Riesh> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[01:47] <Lego> old is empty aswell :S
[01:47] <Riesh> wow
[01:48] <Riesh> does /var/log/messages give any hints ? .... or /var/log/syslog ?
[01:48] <Lego> am i opening them wrong? nano /var/log/xorg.0.log.old ; nano ~/.xsession-error
[01:49] <Riesh> just use "cat"  first
[01:49] <Lego> messages has tons of info
[01:49] <Riesh> instead of nano
[01:49] <Riesh> nano is more for editing
[01:49] <Lego> cat /var/log/xorg.0.log no such file or diretory
[01:49] <Riesh> Xorg
[01:49] <Riesh> with Capital
[01:50] <Lego> ah that worked
[01:50] <Lego> what kind of error am i looking for
[01:50] <Wazmyn> Just got a whole pot full of updates, mostly KDE, is this the 4.2.2 update?
[01:50] <Riesh> lines beginning with (EE) ... or (WW)
[01:51] <Lego> (WW) intel(0): Failed to allocate texture space
[01:53] <Riesh> Lego: mmm ... you working on a other computer now ?
[01:53] <Lego> (WW) intel(0): PIPESTAT before: status: FIFO_UNDERRUN VSYNC_INT_STATUS SVBLANK_INT_STATUS VBLANK_INT_STATUS_ OREG_UPDATE_STATUS
[01:53] <Lego> (WW) intel(0): PIPESTAT after: status:
[01:54] <Lego> and thats the only three i can see with as high as i can scroll
[01:55] <Lego> (WW) intel(0): The directory :/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path
[01:56] <dwidmann_> Riesh: particularly the lines with (EE), and if you're having trouble scrolling, "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:56] <Lego> (WW) intel(0): Register 0x70024 (PIPESTAT) changed from 0x80000207 to 0x000000$
[01:56] <dwidmann_> errr, crap ... meant to say lego ...
[01:56] <Lego> thats all of them
[01:56] <tsimpson> !paste | Lego
[01:57] <Lego> thats all of them
[01:58] <Lego> i can't paste bin sorry, that system is not on the net
[01:58] <Lego> im trying to do this from one computer to the next
[01:58] <Lego> but thats all of them
[01:59] <Riesh> Lego: You do not see any lines beginning with (EE) ?
[01:59] <Lego> nope
[02:00] <Lego> all are just those 4 or 5 WW rest are == ** -- and II
[02:00] <Riesh> Does you xorg.conf have in the Device section "Driver      "intel" " ?
[02:01] <Lego> um /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[02:01] <Riesh> yes
[02:01] <Lego> no it doesn't
[02:01] <Riesh> can try to add that
[02:02] <Lego> ok
[02:02] <Lego> i think mefisto had me try this aswell
[02:02] <Lego> but here goes nothing :)
[02:03] <Riesh> restart X
[02:03] <Riesh> from the kdm menu
[02:04] <Lego> ok
[02:04] <Lego> done, now try and log in again
[02:04] <Lego> nope ...
[02:05] <Riesh> mmm ... guess i am out of ideas
[02:06] <Lego> what the command to pull up the vga information lspci | vga
[02:06] <Riesh> grep VGA
[02:06] <Riesh> lspci |grep VGA
[02:06] <Lego> well it found both and they are named correctly
[02:07] <Riesh> well they won't be named incorrectly in lspci
[02:08] <Riesh> :-)
[02:08] <Lego> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[02:10] <Lego> and how can we check the driver its using?
[02:10] <Lego> pkg_info|grep xorg doesn't work :P
[02:11] <Riesh> i am just googling with the lspci info ... btw did you install from LiveCD ?
[02:11] <Lego> um. I installed from the 8.10 download straight from the kubunut site
[02:12] <Riesh> upgraded ?
[02:12] <Riesh> from 8.04 ?
[02:12] <Lego> no straight 8.10 install
[02:13] <Lego> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[02:13] <Lego> and didn't check the box right below the download button
[02:13] <Riesh> there are two CD's .... livecd and alternate
[02:13] <Riesh> live is goving a complete desktop running from cd
[02:13] <Riesh> alternate just starts the debian installer
[02:14] <Lego> yes i had the live cd then.. it was full graphic installer
[02:14] <Lego> with live cd..
[02:14] <Lego> does that make a difference?
[02:14] <Riesh> well, .... then X should be working
[02:14] <Riesh> the X version from cd
[02:15] <Lego> X is working :P we've established that :P its kde thats not working
[02:15] <Lego> didn't you say that kdm wouldn't boot up if x wasn't working
[02:15] <Riesh> well if it is running in the live cd then there should be no problem with the installed one
[02:16] <Lego> no live cd wouldn't boot to the kde desktop
[02:16] <Lego> it did the same thing
[02:16] <Lego> kdm worked no kde
[02:17] <Riesh> you have network working on the comp.
[02:17] <Lego> would you like me to try again, booting the live cd, and just see exactly what happens
[02:17] <Lego> no lol, we couldn't get me connected to my wireless over the command prompt
[02:17] <Riesh> no ... if it did not work it doesn't work now
[02:17] <Lego> but just to see if its gunna give a different error?
[02:18] <Riesh> ok can try :-)
[02:18] <Lego> like i said im down to try anything to get it working :)
[02:19] <Riesh> maybe just download the Jaunty beta live cd ... and try that one :-)
[02:20] <Lego> well im downloading the 8.04 right now. it has xorg 7.3 and kde3 and i know both of those should work, because i ran both under bsd with compiz (again only on the intel card since radeon doesn't have 3d support) but I guess it does under ubuntu.. so i plan on using it.. if it works.
[02:20] <Lego> but the intel or radeon don't want to work on 8.10 (intel atleast boots kdm)
[02:21] <Lego> im just glad i have 3 computers so i can mess around and not have to worry about not being on the net :P
[02:22] <Riesh> Lego: just depends on which driver you use i guess for the radeon card ... there are 3 options i think ... the ati driver, the radeon driver ... and the binary driver fglrx
[02:23] <Riesh> the last one has 3D support
[02:23] <Lego> well live cd is running and on kde4.1 splash and moved past were it has been locking up.. loaded the ah wrench and nut driver / globe / looks like an envelope and now .... not sure what its doing..
[02:23] <Riesh> loading from cd is slow
[02:24] <Lego> i think it froze up again
[02:24] <Riesh> not cd activity ?
[02:24] <Lego> nope
[02:25] <Lego> no hdd activity aswell
[02:25] <Riesh> then maybe it is a bug in X ... would maybe have been solved if you could update
[02:25] <Riesh> you don't have a cable which you can use for eth0 ?
[02:25] <metellius> how come KDE 4.2.2 was released today, but when I went to upgrade it, it was already done automatically just with the automatic upgrade set to "security only"?
[02:26] <Lego> hehe nope.. im way to far from the router, all my computers are wireless.. and i have a bridge just to get to that router
[02:26] <Lego> yea it froze..
[02:27] <Riesh> So ... you can see if 8.04 works ... boots to a complete kde environment ... and maybe after that you can try this also with 9.04 which will be release 3 weeks later
[02:28] <Lego> LOL yea.. thats what i want to do.. if i get 8.04 installed and working.. its staying put !
[02:29] <Riesh> :-) ... your missing the fun of kde 4.2.2 then
[02:29] <Lego> compiz runs :P
[02:29] <Riesh> kde 4.2.2 is much more then the wobbly windows and cube effect
[02:30] <Lego> UM im F*&$I&O Pissed.. the download for 8.04 just finished.. and nero popped up... and i just closed it.. and now i can't find the 8.04 download..
[02:30] <Lego> almost like nero deleted it
[02:30] <Riesh> windows ?
[02:31] <Lego> yes.
[02:31] <Wazmyn> lego i feel yer pain, I had firefox stash it in some temp folder one time and ended up haveing to re-download
[02:31] <Riesh> what you used to download it ?
[02:31] <Lego> yes but ff is like 50mb max.. 8.04 is 700....
[02:31] <Lego> IE
[02:31] <Riesh> :-( ...
[02:31] <Lego> IE8 even worse.. since im in Windows Seven
[02:32] <Riesh> :-(
[02:32] <Wazmyn> lego, no Firefox goofed up the download for 8.10
[02:32] <Riesh> use torrent next time
[02:32] <Lego> ah.. i see what you mean
[02:32] <Lego> i should considering i have utorrent installed
[02:32]  * Wazmyn suggests using opera and it's nice download manager
[02:33] <Riesh> but nero should not delete stuff ...
[02:34] <Lego> makes me wonder if i can find it in my temp folder if i accidently hit open instead of save
[02:34] <Riesh> Lego: can you do a search and try to find it ?
[02:34] <Lego> that was the first thing i did.. no luck
[02:35] <Lego> yea its gone.... :(
[02:35] <Riesh> Does IE not ask where save a download ?
[02:35]  * Riesh staying away from IE already a long time 
[02:35] <Lego> it does but i may have hit open instead of save...
[02:36] <Lego> ugh... 3 more hours.../
[02:36] <Riesh> maybe it is then indeed saved in the temp dir
[02:36] <Lego> i looked dont' see it
[02:36] <Riesh> search the whole c drive ?
[02:37] <Riesh> searched?
[02:37] <Riesh> *.iso
[02:37] <Lego> yup found just 3
[02:37] <Lego> none are 8.04
[02:38] <Lego> figures... its my luck man...
[02:38] <Riesh> mmm ... looks like your out of luck then
[02:38] <Lego> hehe i totally put the "It just works" outta wack
[02:38] <Lego> because it doesn't :P
[02:39] <Riesh> windows 7 is beta
[02:39] <Lego> yea but its not the issue.. been running it great for over a month
[02:39] <Lego> gaming, surfing, downloading, torrents.. everything.
[02:39] <Lego> mind you i never had an issue with vista...
[02:40] <Riesh> yeah ... ... until you download a torrent with IE and it suddenly disappears
[02:40] <Lego> uptime 4days 5hrs 34mins
[02:40] <Riesh> i mean an iso
[02:40] <Lego> hehe thats my probably stupidity which is why nero tried to open the file.. instead of the download dialog just closing..
[02:41] <Lego> well i figured i'd let the live cd boot again.. and it froze just after the blueish envelope appeared...
[02:42] <Riesh> Lego: sorry, i can't help you
[02:43] <Lego> thats cool.. im just gunna hope that 8.04 works..
[02:45] <Lego> well im out for now.. thanks for the help man
[02:45] <Riesh> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04.2/kubuntu-8.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent\
[02:46] <Riesh> ok
[03:00] <BluesKaj> evening folks
[03:15] <tanderson_> anybody know the status of the nvidia driver *71
[03:26] <BluesKaj> tanderson_ , what's your card?
[03:26] <tanderson_> riva tnt2
[03:28] <tanderson_> product: NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
[03:28] <tanderson_> I tried to get the nvidia driver going..maybe 4 months ago and there was a conflict between the driver and xserver.
[03:28] <tanderson_> I was wondering if anybody knew anything new.
[03:31] <BluesKaj> dunno about the 64 bit version , but he riva tnt2 driver is known as , xserver-xorg-video-nv
[03:31] <BluesKaj> it's in adept or apt
[03:37] <margaret> !scanner
[03:37] <margaret> just install xsane with aptitude, anything else I should know
[03:38] <margaret> !OCR
[03:38] <margaret> kooka is kde?
[03:43] <garrett_> Hea LjL
[03:44] <garrett_> Remember me i used to be norrisg
[03:48] <garrett_> Can anyone read me
[03:49] <garrett_> can anyone see my messahe
[03:53] <calamari> hi
[03:53] <calamari> anyone know of a kubuntu fork that retains kde 3?
[03:55] <solifugus> What was the file you specify package sources in?  (I forgot)
[03:56] <calamari> solifugus: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <solifugus> calamari: thanks.. need to comment out the source for openoffice 3, as that version of it really sucks.. I sure wish there were a proper version of openoffice 3 for kubuntu somewhere..
[03:58] <calamari> solifugus: not a big fan of kde 4 myself :)
[04:04] <slerder> Hey guys is there any way to how long a network interface card has been up and running? thanks
[04:05] <joshjtl> hey does anyone use preload or prelink in here?
[04:15] <ForgeAus> hey all
[04:15] <ForgeAus> uh I'm having some apt-get problems
[04:16] <ForgeAus> its trying to fix a problem but it won't let me fix it for it... the package kpresenter-kde4_1 (etc) is having an issue where it doesn't want to "overwrite" (even if I remove the file) /usr/share/pixmaps/kpresenter.xpm ...
[04:16] <ForgeAus> it says thats also in a package kpresenter-data...
[04:17] <ForgeAus> but apt-get won't let me remove kpresenter-data, it wants to keep fixing kpresenter-kde4 instead
[04:17] <ForgeAus> is there something I can do about it?
[04:20] <ForgeAus> also *buntu needs background disk health checks... I don't think anyone wants to turn their computer on to wait for a long disk scan before I can use it...
[04:20] <esdaniel> anyone notice the recent update from repos is making Plasma gorge processor usage?
[04:20] <ForgeAus> erm they not I lol
[04:27] <esdaniel> hmm, seems it's still an issue with calendar plasmoid, removing solves the proc utilisation
[04:42] <solifugus> calamari: no.. kde 4 sucks beach balls through straws..  I am tungue in cheek, hoping it'll get better in a year or so..
[04:43] <solifugus> wondering if somebody shouldn't just upgrade the old kde 3 to qt 4, without the redesigns.
[04:43] <solifugus> the hideous redesigns
[04:59] <joe__> hello all
[05:13] <asobi> ipod not mounting
[05:13] <|toad> can anyone help me in here?
[05:32] <slerder> Hey guys i just ran rkhunter and i got two warnings, one in /usr/bin/dpkg-query  and one in /usr/bin/dpkg . What could it be? What should i do? thanks
[05:36] <jithine> hi guys any one facing system freezes on kubuntu jaunty
[05:41] <Riesh> slerder: Please check the log file (/var/log/rkhunter.log)
[05:43] <gerardo> hola
[05:54] <Lego> kaddi?
[05:55] <Lego> just finished installing 8.04 and it booted fine first time.. it did give me a pop up for using the restricted driver for the ati card.
[06:02] <tweakedeh> I installed a virtual box and now it says I need to slect mixer for my sound on linux, How would I fix this?
[06:10] <Lego> running the adept updater now..
[07:39] <alFoX> hi all. Can anyboody halp me to submit bugreport for kmail?
[07:40] <timboy_> I just updated my intrepid drivers to the latest nvidia now they're not loading properly... Here is xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1380648 here is the end of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1380661
[07:54] <draik_> I'm looking for a way to fileshare what I have on this laptop with someone else in another state
[07:54] <draik_> How can I set that up?
[07:55] <draik_> I know there was something in 8.04 to do it, but got taken away in 8.10 for some odd reason
[08:01] <michael_> I want to install Kubuntu, and since I've had many problems with KDE 4.2 I am eagerly waiting for the newest stable edition of Kubuntu. But I don't want to wait until the 23rd, I want to start use it now. Can I install it now, and then at 23rd do an update so it is the same as the stable release?
[08:03] <timboy_> I just updated my intrepid drivers to the latest nvidia now they're not loading properly... Here is xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1380648 here is the end of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1380661
[08:04] <frogonwheels> I've got that problem where hibernate  works perfectly - except that it reboots my machine instead of powering down...
[08:04] <frogonwheels> anybody got any suggestions (8.10 kubuntu)
[08:05] <larsemil> any way to get same behaviour in konq on tabs as in firefox? with an x to close the tab at the tab instead of at the right side of the screen
[08:05] <frogonwheels> erm.. using open source ati x drivers..
[08:05] <frogonwheels> larsemil: yes.
[08:06] <larsemil> frogonwheels: how?
[08:06] <frogonwheels> can't remember.
[08:06] <larsemil> frogonwheels: found it. was easy. :)
[08:06] <frogonwheels> figured 'yes' would be sufficient :)
[08:11] <larsemil> hmm i dont get flash to work in konqueror even though i installed flashplugin-nonfree
[08:19] <frogonwheels> larsemil:  not recognised? not working?
[08:19] <frogonwheels> larsemil:  check  about:plugins
[08:20] <frogonwheels> I have:  Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15  flashplugin-alternative.so
[08:31] <JohnDoe365> Hi! Today i got this waring after apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[08:32] <JohnDoe365> and adept wants to uninstall a great deal of KDE4 packages .... even kwin ...
[08:33] <larsemil> frogonwheels: i had to search for it in konq settings
[08:38] <JohnDoe365> I'm on kubuntu 8.10 btw
[08:38] <JohnDoe365> any experienced the same or does now whats going on?
[08:39] <larsemil> JohnDoe365: sudo apt-get update could help you maybe?
[08:47] <JohnDoe365> larsemil: Yeah, I get this warning after running apt-get update
[08:48] <JohnDoe365> I havent messed with repositories so i'm wondering whats going on
[08:49] <JohnDoe365> I'm reulctant to do a apt-get upgrade as it will leave me with a defunct kde4
[08:51] <larsemil> well try doing another update.
[08:53] <MarkieMark1> JohnDoe365: have you added medibuntu to your repos?
[08:53] <JohnDoe365> yes
[08:54] <MarkieMark1> medibuntu 'needs' key verification
[08:55] <MarkieMark1> JohnDoe365: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/47039
[08:56] <JohnDoe365> MarkieMark1: I have added it right after 8.10
[08:56] <MarkieMark1> though the key ID listed there is different to the one you list in your error message
[08:57] <JohnDoe365> and already installed packages from medibuntu
[08:57] <MarkieMark1> so it could be a different repo that's raising the error?
[08:57] <JohnDoe365> so i have the feeling this is sthg. different
[08:58] <kyle__> Hi, Has any one else noticed that http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/x11-common_7.4~5ubuntu17_all.deb is missing?
[09:00] <JohnDoe365> MarkieMark1: maybe ... what really bothers me is adept: If I would allow to run it, i would have a cripled system
[09:01] <JohnDoe365> MarkieMark1: amongst others it would uninstall dolphin and kwin
[09:02] <MarkieMark1> JohnDoe365: you get that with changing releases
[09:02] <JohnDoe365> I think its somehow related to kde 4.2 update
[09:02] <MarkieMark1> I remember breaking my system trying to update my Open Office to gutsy's version of Open Office from Feisty
[09:03] <MarkieMark1> It's similar to how the update manager suggests removing packages when you upgrade the 'normal' way
[09:03] <JohnDoe365> but i have the feeling that i shouldnt get it ... i issued no dist-upgrade and added no repo of jaunty ...
[09:05] <MarkieMark1> JohnDoe365: quite possibly as you say specifically linked to KDE4.2
[09:05] <MarkieMark1> I'm no specialist in KDE though there should be, around :)
[09:38] <marie_blubb> hey guys, I try to configure my firewall for samba. I'd like to close port 137-139, 445 and 901 but allow it füor a couple of IPs i'm using. doesn't work. is gufw the right plattform for that?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> !firewall
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> then use guarddog to set the rule to allow the traffic, all other requests will be denied
[10:01] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - what's the general feeling of the Kubuntu Hardy » Kubutu latest upgrade path at the moment for desktops?  I remember when Intrepid first appeared on the scene it came with a footnote along the lines of "Hey, Intrepid/KDE 4.x is the latest and greatest, but - maybe you want to stick with Hardy for now if you run a production environment"
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> ToreadorVampire: runs fine
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> ToreadorVampire: if you have a usb stick spare you could install to that to try it
[10:03] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm, that's not a bad idea actually ... My current USB stick is a bit small for that (512MB, but hey, it was a freebie) but I should probably get a new one someday - and it's not like they're expensive
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> true and they are great for testing new releases as you do not touch your internal drive
[10:04] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm, I do remember also that when Intrepid first appeared it said that a lot of settings for Hardy aren't likely to survive the transition to a KDE 4.x based environment ... is that still the case or has the upgrade process been improved since then?
[10:05] <jmaspons> Hello. Maybe you somebody already said it but with the new kde 4.2.2 plasma eats all the CPU. It's a packaging problem or it comes from kde?
[10:05] <ToreadorVampire> It's only that - I'm mid-project at the moment (but should be finished in a few weeks) - I don't want to change my production machine while I'm mid-project, but I don't mind trying out a quick switch just before I start a new project
[10:05] <wizkoder> anybody succeeded in listening to music with the mbs-100? a bluetooth speaker? I get an error message when I try to pair it with my computer
[10:07] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway, thanks - will probably skip Intrepid and try Jaunty in a few weeks ... thanks for the suggestion :)
[10:09] <sgrover> Just installed the Jaunty beta to a USB stick.. a little slow (meaning a lot slow) in terms of data transfer, but otherwise Jaunty is looking rather slick
[10:11] <cuznt> i got jaunty juandice workin fine
[10:13] <marie_blubb> ActionParsnip puh thats really complicated i allowed dns, ftp, http https do you know what samba needs because It#s not workking anymore
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: looks like 445
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365990
[10:17] <wizkoder> yesterday jaunty made its way on my laptop. today I will install it on my desktop. next week I guess (when all tests are passed) it will move to the computer in my company. great work!
[10:18] <wizkoder> or should I wait until final is out? beto to final should work right?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> wizkoder: its out but the final release has been pused back to august due to issues. it does however run ok on my stystem byt your systm will e different
[10:23] <HamidReza> hi
[10:23] <HamidReza> i need an a software for call wating
[10:24] <HamidReza> with dial up
[10:24] <HamidReza> yooooooooooohooooooooooooo
[10:26] <jmaspons> In the new version of kde 4.2.2 plasma eats many CPU (around 80%). I am using intrepid in a x386 and it worked fine before this upgrade. What happen?
[10:26] <marie_blubb> ActionParsnip sorry me again, i read in the oreily doc that i have to closes these ports, but just for trying I cannot find  where to change that in the guarddog (I read the website of guarddog)
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> marie_blubb: not something i use but its my next project so you'll have to feel around
[10:29] <HamidReza> hi.... in need a software for call wating in dial-up connection
[10:34] <HamidReza> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:34] <HamidReza> i need a software for call wating in dial-up connection
[10:36] <HamidReza> i need a software for call wating in dial-up connection
[10:36] <HamidReza> please
[10:36] <HamidReza> help me
[10:36] <HamidReza> help
[10:37] <HamidReza> answer me
[10:39] <HamidReza> help me
[10:39] <HamidReza> help me
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> HamidReza: clearly nobody can or they would have answered by now
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> try again later in the day
[10:40] <HamidReza> ohhhhhhhhh
[10:40] <marie_blubb> how do I deactivate guarddog? I dont get it
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> guarddog is only a gui tool fo iptables
[10:56] <frogonwheels> HamidReza: you mean to disable call waiting while on dialup?
[11:14] <ForgeAus> how to fix apt-get?... I have a problem with koffice packages... kpresenter-kde4 wants to install a pixmap into /usr/share/pixmaps/kpresenter.xpm where another package kpresenter-data apparently also installs it to and doesn't like to overwrite it ... (even if I delete the file, oddly)...
[11:14] <ludan> hi guys
[11:14] <ludan> I was wondering if you know what is the application that shows you the level of the volume when you use FN keys combinations
[11:14] <ForgeAus> but it won't let me apt-get remove kpresenter-data and all apt-get -f install does is keep trying to install kpresenter-kde4
[11:15] <ForgeAus> volume, uh kmix?
[11:15] <ForgeAus> not sure if it dynamically updates when you use FN keys tho
[11:15] <ludan> ForgeAus: no man, kmix is something, I'd like to be notified when I press FN+F3
[11:15] <ForgeAus> there might be a monitoring app to show something like that... but if there is I don't know what its alled
[11:15] <ludan> or F4 whatever
[11:17] <ForgeAus> f4 for changing volume? hmmm I don't think Kubuntu is set up that way anyway... is it?
[11:17] <ludan> yes it does
[11:17] <ludan> at least with the live-cd
[11:17] <ForgeAus> ok sorry I havn't much experience with audio stuff, I tend not to use it alot
[11:19] <ForgeAus> the F keys I tend to use for switching virtual terminals or whatever its called (ie control + alt + f7 for x-server display, and the ones before that generally for tty1, 2, 3, etc cli logins)
[11:19] <ForgeAus> many apps assign a function to the F keys
[11:20] <ForgeAus> so like I said I'm not familiar with Fn keys for audio
[11:21] <ForgeAus> brb, I just had an idea to find out something
[11:21] <ForgeAus> wait Fn as in a notebook PC?
[11:21] <ForgeAus> (rather than just an F key like F1, F2, F3?
[11:21] <ludan> no
[11:21] <ludan> FN as in a sony laptoop
[11:22] <ForgeAus> ahh ok well thats probably based on what sony (lots of other companies that make notebooks also use an FN key in a similar way)... decides it does
[11:22] <devilsadvocate> there is some laptop keys package, and some laptop-detect stuff
[11:22] <ForgeAus> (often they use a diff colour like blue)
[11:22] <ForgeAus> on the keyboard directly to show what the function does...
[11:23] <ForgeAus> one common use for an Fn key is to switch between LCD display and external VGA connector...
[11:24] <ForgeAus> audio volume is obviously something Sony have done custom for their notebooks, which is fine, but how the software recognises that is a whole other question, unfortunately I don't know if it even does...
[11:25] <ForgeAus> what I do know is in system settings the keyboard and mouse applet can show you KDE's combinations
[11:28] <Lavandergirl{kc}> heya
[11:28] <niou> hello
[11:29] <Ciylana> does anyone know how to stop kopete sending light grey text to my msn buddies?
[11:30] <ibrar> I am getting nothing when trying to share file using dolphin
[11:30] <ibrar> so i have tried it manualy
[11:30] <ibrar> sudo kcmshell4 fileshare
[11:31] <ibrar> > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-ibrar" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[11:31] <ibrar> > findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found
[11:31] <ibrar> > ibrar@ibrar-laptop:~$
[11:31] <ibrar> ??
[11:34] <linda> anyone here that uses amarok2?
[11:36] <hutch> hi
[11:36] <hutch> Doesanyone know how to mount a drive and keep it mounted at startupon ubuntu server?
[11:37] <hutch> linda I do
[11:44] <ibrar> ??
[11:48] <devilsadvocate> hutch, put it in /etc/fstab
[11:52] <hutch> devilsadvocate thanks.
[11:53] <hutch> I passed the info onto Saturn 2888 in #linuxmint
[11:53] <hutch> He says that that dir doesn't exist. He's on Ubuntu server
[11:54] <esdaniel> yep Linda, wassup?
[11:55] <Mad_Dud> Hello everyone. (K.8.04.2) i've noticed that yesterday new update appeared. But it's different than others, because it contains installation of several packages. can someone confirm, that it's ok?
[11:55] <devilsadvocate> hutch, thats not a dir, thats a file
[11:55] <devilsadvocate> and it probably exists
[11:55] <Mad_Dud> UNinstallation
[11:56] <hutch> k thanks
[11:59] <hutch> devilsadvocate do U knnow what the UUID is?
[12:00] <etfb> Is there a video driver that's generic, like the vesa one, but supports higher resolutions than 1024x768?
[12:03] <devilsadvocate> hutch, uuid is sort of a replacement for /dev/hda1, etc
[12:03] <devilsadvocate> hutch, you can just use the /dev/hdxn etc for it instead of the uuid
[12:03] <hutch> K thnx
[12:03] <devilsadvocate> im not sure how to find out the uuids
[12:04] <frogonwheels> vol_id
[12:05] <bazhang> !blkid
[12:06] <ibrar> I am getting nothing when trying to share file using dolphin
[12:06] <etfb> Is there a way to use Intrepid or Jaunty with KDE 3.5?
[12:07] <ForgeAus> yes, uninstall kde4 and reinstall kde3.5 from source! lol
[12:07] <ForgeAus> or use kde3 packages from feisty or hardy repos?
[12:07] <hutch> Thanx for the help guys Saturn2888 thinks he's sorted now
[12:09] <cuznt> kdesu dolhin
[12:09] <ForgeAus> I personally did an upgrade of Hardy (with KDE3 and a kde4 alternative parallel to it) to Intrpid now I have some kinda hybrid that runs by default KDE4 but kde3 stuff still works
[12:09] <cuznt> kdesu dolphin
[12:45] <costa58> ubuntu.it
[12:46] <costa58> www.ubuntu.it
[12:46] <ibrar> My file sharing not working
[12:46] <ibrar> can any body help
[12:46] <ibrar> me
[12:46] <yaa_> yes
[12:47] <yaa_> anybody could
[12:47] <yaa_> which way should it work
[12:47] <yaa_> smb?
[12:48] <ibrar> Right click on folder and shar this folder
[12:48] <ibrar> in dolphin
[12:48] <ibrar> in sharing tab it has configure file sharing
[12:49] <ibrar> when i click this button nothing happends
[12:49] <ibrar> yaa_:?
[12:49] <yaa_> type smb://ipadress/share in browser
[12:50] <ibrar> time out on server error
[12:51] <yaa_> share is on linux or owindows
[12:52] <ibrar> windows
[12:52] <MarkieMark1> check windows firewall settings?
[12:53] <yaa_> is the share available for others
[12:53] <MarkieMark1> in gnome it's system->places->network->windows network etc
[12:53] <ibrar> Let me explain: I have to share folder in linux and want to access from windows
[12:54] <MarkieMark1> ibrar: http://2tap.com/2007/04/22/sharing-files-between-a-windows-guest-and-ubuntu-host-using-vmware-and-samba/
[12:54] <MarkieMark1> though you won't need the vmware bit
[12:55] <ibrar> no VM
[12:55] <ibrar> I need to copy data over network
[12:55] <MarkieMark1> right so simply follow the instructions as far as they are relevant, ignore the VMware instructions, it'll work
[12:56] <yaa_> smb.conf
[12:56] <yaa_> configure smb
[12:56] <ibrar> ok doing
[12:58] <war10ck> hi
[12:59] <war10ck> testing konqueror on janty
[12:59] <war10ck> with flash
[12:59] <noaXess> has anybody also updated to kde 4.2.2?
[13:00] <ForgeAus> ow to fix apt-get?... I have a problem with koffice packages... kpresenter-kde4 wants to install a pixmap into /usr/share/pixmaps/kpresenter.xpm where another package kpresenter-data apparently also installs it to and doesn't like to overwrite it ... (even if I delete the file, oddly)...
[13:00] <noaXess> just one little problem i have.. in the moment.. if i run kickoff application launcher the cursor isn't focused in the search field..
[13:00] <ForgeAus> noaXess I don't think its in my repos as yet... if so once I fix my kpresenter problem I'll ug to it
[13:01] <ForgeAus> hehe I'm no fun I use legacy application launcher (menu-style)
[13:01] <noaXess> i use kicko app launcher cause so i can search for a installed app that has a link in kmenu
[13:02] <ForgeAus> yeah I like the searchbox
[13:02] <noaXess> normaly i press ALT+F1 and then search.. now i need to click into the search field..
[13:04] <ForgeAus> yeah 4.2 (the one I have, not .2.2) autofocuses the search field
[13:09] <war10ck> so, does the youtube.com flash video play in your konqueror?
[13:10] <war10ck> anybody?
[13:11] <war10ck> they work in firefox but not in konqueror
[13:11] <war10ck> wonder if it is a bug
[13:11] <iambellosani> i'm trying youtube on my conqueror now, get back to you soon - just installed kubuntu!
[13:12] <war10ck> it works on my intrepid but not on jaunty
[13:12] <jmaspons> ForgeAus the 4.2.2 is in experimental repos (http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2)
[13:12] <war10ck> what do you have jambellosani?
[13:12] <jmaspons> But I have some problem with this version: plasma use 80% of CPU all the time!
[13:12] <iambellosani> doesn't work!
[13:13] <iambellosani> complains about java turned off or old flash player!
[13:13] <war10ck> great success
[13:13] <war10ck> iambellosani, what kubuntu do you have?
[13:14] <war10ck> from intrepid or jaunty?
[13:15] <iambellosani> intrepid
[13:15] <war10ck> hmm
[13:15] <war10ck> it works on mine
[13:15] <war10ck> it doesn't work on jauntuy
[13:16] <war10ck> wonder what is the problem
[13:16] <iambellosani> maybe i should try downloading the flash player to see if it will work
[13:17] <iambellosani> did you have to download it before you could use youtube? war10ck?
[13:21] <war10ck> iambellosani i use flash either from adobe-flash or flash-nonfree
[13:21] <war10ck> package
[13:24] <ephoenix> hey everyone
[13:25] <iambellosani> thanks
[13:25] <war10ck> does it work?
[13:26] <iambellosani> still downloading!
[13:26] <war10ck> ok
[13:28] <cuznt> i can not find my disk back up
[13:29] <cyz> 中文
[13:29] <ephoenix> Is there anyone having problem with audio from the browsers. And the browsers freezes up once video comes up sometimes.
[13:29] <bazhang> !cn
[13:30] <cyz> thank you
[13:32] <war10ck> iambellosani what are you downloading? the packages or the macromedia site?
[13:39] <iambellosani> the package - have a slow connection
[13:40] <iambellosani> i'm from nigeria!
[13:41] <u-guard> hello
[13:42] <iambellosani> hi
[13:42] <u-guard> I m a kubuntu user from Greece an d I d like to make a question
[13:42] <u-guard> I ve upgraded from kde 3.5 to dke 4.2
[13:43] <u-guard> and I can t install and download any plasmoids
[13:43] <u-guard> can anyone help me plz
[13:43] <u-guard> ?
[13:43] <chris-rc1> hi
[13:43] <Mamarok> u-guard: I suppose you use Intrepid?
[13:44] <u-guard> Mamarok: yes i do
[13:44] <Mamarok> in KDE 4.2 there aree widgets instead, those are not called plasmoids anymore
[13:44] <Mamarok> -e
[13:45] <u-guard> Mamarok: I follwed the instructions here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 skipping the first and the 4th step
[13:45] <u-guard> because I didn t know how to do this
[13:46]  * devilsadvocate liked the name plasmoids
[13:46] <Mamarok> u-guard: you don't have to explain :)
[13:46] <u-guard> I see what you say but i can t add any plasma widgets
[13:47] <u-guard> Mamarok:  can i do something to fix this?
[13:47] <Mamarok> u-guard: did you update your repositories?
[13:47] <u-guard> Mamarok: could you help me with this?
[13:47] <Mamarok> u-guard: you will have to remove the plasmoids
[13:48] <u-guard> Mamarok: how ?
[13:48] <Mamarok> u-guard: use your package manager
[13:48] <u-guard> Mamarok: adept package manager?
[13:48] <Mamarok> yes
[13:48] <u-guard> Mamarok: and type what?
[13:49] <u-guard> Mamarok: sorry for being such an ....
[13:49] <Mamarok> u-guard: you newer di install things yourself before?
[13:50] <u-guard> Mamarok: yes i ve installed but ...should i type plasmoids in search box of adept?
[13:51] <Mamarok> try it
[13:51] <EagleSn> if I format an ext3 filesystem as ext4, is it possible to recovery any file from the old ext3 filesystem}
[13:51] <u-guard> Mamarok: IT SAYS NO MATCHES FOUND
[13:51] <Mamarok> u-guard: no need to shout...
[13:52] <u-guard> Mamarok: yes sorry
[13:52] <u-guard> I tapped by accident
[13:52] <Mamarok> u-guard: did you check if you have all necessary repositories?
[13:53] <ady> hoola
[13:53] <u-guard> Mamarok: no because I dont know which ones are the needed ones
[13:53] <Idhan> hi
[13:53] <Idhan> ady: hi
[13:53] <ady> eres espaniol
[13:53] <Mamarok> !es | ady
[13:54] <chris-rc1> is there a way to set the HAL values for the temperature at which the fan starts spinning?
[13:54] <Mamarok> u-guard: could you please tell me which repositories are active for you?
[13:54] <lun4tic> hi
[13:54] <ady> ok
[13:54] <Idhan> ady: no, I'm not, no lo soy
[13:54] <Idhan> ady: pero puedo hablar espanol
[13:54] <ady> no pasa nada
[13:54] <Mamarok> Idhan: English please!
[13:55] <lun4tic> is there a way to set plasmoids to dashboard only?
[13:55] <Mamarok> !es | Idhan
[13:55] <Idhan> Mamarok: take it easy!!!
[13:55] <renan> Hi, I've updated my kubuntu 8.10 and the x server isn't working. Someone could help me?
[13:56]  * Idhan is away: Gone away for now
[13:56]  * Idhan is back.
[13:56] <u-guard> Mamarok: the deafult of Kubuntu and I ve added restricted extras
[13:56] <Mamarok> Idhan: there are rules, like avoiding public away messages...
[13:57] <bazhang> !away > Idhan
[13:57] <Idhan> Mamarok: ok..  I disable the away..sorry, my mistake
[13:58] <u-guard> Mamarok: ??
[13:58] <u-guard> Mamarok: so/?
[13:58] <Mamarok> u-guard: the needed repositories are given in the website for kde 4.2.2 IMHO, did you follow these steps?
[13:58] <Mamarok> u-guard: patience :)
[13:59] <u-guard> Mamarok: I ll check it now
[14:00] <u-guard> Mamarok: could you give me the link?
[14:00] <Idhan> on linux which is the format for icons?? png?
[14:01] <Mamarok> u-guard: you gave it yourself previously, but here it is:
[14:01] <Mamarok> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[14:03] <pucko-> renan, what's the problem?
[14:03] <u-guard> Mamarok: ok I ve already have the right repositories
[14:04] <Mamarok> u-guard: let me try, I don't use Adept usually
[14:06] <u-guard> Mamarok: ok thanks a lot
[14:06] <renan> pucko-: I updated my system, using the package manager, yesterday. After reboot my X Server don't start. Even after a startx command
[14:07] <pucko-> renan, you could try to generate a new Xorg config.. unless it's a driver issue. what card are you using?
[14:07] <Mamarok> u-guard: sry, don't have Adept anymore here, running Jaunty on this machine
[14:07] <Mamarok> u-guard: you should be able to find by typing *plasmoid IMHO
[14:08] <renan> pucko-: It is an intel onboard card
[14:08] <renan> pucko-: how do I generate a new Xorg config
[14:10] <cuznt> !x
[14:10] <pucko-> renan, sudo Xorg -configure, from console
[14:10] <etric> worst carse you could try to rename xorg.conf to something else. the xserver should start in failsafe mode *hopefully*
[14:10] <pucko-> etric's suggestion might be better though
[14:11] <pucko-> not sure exactly how ubuntu handles all that
[14:11] <pucko-> renan, and it's always a good idea to look for error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:13] <renan> Thanks, It happened at my notebook that isn't here. I'm gonna try it soon
[14:14] <DarkTan> are there any good/east to use programs for linux i can use to remove the lryics from songs?
[14:14] <DarkTan> easy*
[14:16] <lovre> since i installed Amarok2, all problems, bugs, crashes etc. What alternative do you suggest? Is SongBird any good?
[14:17] <DarkTan> you can use the "Movie Player" that comes with Xubuntu, but it has little in the way of features. other than that, Amarok is all i've ever used
[14:18] <lovre> DarkTan: i love amarok, but its freaking me out since i installed version 2. Looks better, but thats all, other is just a bunch of bugssssssssss.
[14:18] <lovre> DarkTan: ok, ty
[14:21] <DarkTan> actually, i haven't used version 2
[14:21]  * DarkTan installs now
[14:22] <Mamarok> DarkTan: there is a gstreamer add-on, but not implemented in any of the current media players
[14:23] <Mamarok> neither Intrepid nor Jaunty
[14:23] <DarkTan> *eye twitch* my mom paid for Audacity for windoze and it's free for linux -_-
[14:24] <DarkTan> Well, Mamarok, i'll be using Audacity 'cause I'll already know how to use it. just can use the windoze version, cause windoze got eated by trojans
[14:24] <Mamarok> DarkTan: you will have to be patient, it's not ready for Jaunty neither
[14:25] <DarkTan> what is't ready? Audacity or gstreamer?
[14:25] <Mamarok> no, the karaoke function for gstreamer
[14:26] <DarkTan> that ok, don't need it. Audacity does everything i need and then some
[14:26] <DarkTan> and it does it quite well
[14:27] <denis_> !de
[14:38] <lovre> how do i update locate?
[14:38] <Idhan> lovre: sudo updatedb
[14:39] <lovre> Idhan: thanx
[14:39] <Idhan> lovre: np
[14:42] <sitaram> (please no flames or discussion; just a straight yes/no) does the default install of kubuntu install/require mono?  (Over on #ubuntu they said ubuntu does so I'm asking here about kubuntu)
[14:42] <Mamarok> no
[14:43] <sitaram> thanks...
[14:43] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[14:52] <victim> how do I install a particular version of an application? I find Konversation 3.5.10 to have a few bugs and I want to use 3.5.9 again
[14:53] <sitaram> I think it's called "pinning", which you mught google for, but I'm sorry I don't know more than that
[14:53] <sitaram> might*
[14:53] <genii> sudo apt-get install packagename=version              version is as reported by apt-cache policy packagename
[14:54] <genii> pinning is another thing
[14:54] <genii> !pin
[14:55] <Raditz> ...
[14:57] <sitaram> genii: thanks...
[14:57] <genii> sitaram: You're welcome
[14:57] <gerrit_> hi there
[14:58] <genii> !hi
[14:59] <gerrit_> does anyone know why I always get "http://www.%t.com/" in my firefox address bar when klicking on a link in KMail ?
[14:59] <gerrit_> kinda annoying :)
[15:00] <Unksi> is there any way to diagnose a usb harddisk health in linux?
[15:00] <Unksi> like software that ultimateboot disk has but running directly from ubuntu
[15:01] <sitaram> catch-33: most such URL handlers use %s (or so I thought).  Might you have made some config changes and typed in %t instead, and -- that being unrecognised -- is getting carried straight to firefox?
[15:01] <sitaram> (warning: I'm just a wanderer who wanted to ask something here; I don't actually know much about kubuntu)
[15:01] <genii> Unksi: Why not just use the UBCD, it already has all the tools on it from the manufacturers etc
[15:02] <Unksi> genii: because i dont have any cd's and am lazy to go buy them atm :p
[15:02] <lovre> when is 9.04 comming out?
[15:02] <catch-33> @sitaram that's what I was thinking, too. but I didn't  do any config/template hacking
[15:02] <genii> lovre: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:02] <lovre> ok
[15:04] <genii> Unksi: There is an old but still interesting article on the subject here: http://ubuntuguru.wordpress.com/2007/04/06/digital-forensics/
[15:04] <Unksi> ok, thank you
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:05] <bazhang> hi
[15:05]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[15:05] <BluesKaj> thanks genii  :)
[15:06] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[15:16] <twisted_g> hi, does anyone here use LyX? I've tried their main irc channel but all 4 people are idle.
[15:17] <victim> how do I find the right version number for konversation 3.5.9? sudo apt-get install konversation=3.5.9  gives  E: Version ‘3.5.9’ for ‘konversation’ was not found,  I appear to have version 1.1-0ubuntu2.1
[15:18] <noaXess> !info mixxx
[15:18] <fabro> hey, I've got a problem, a few days ago I installed Ubuntu Intrepid and when trying to set some packages in the sistem I must have messed up
[15:18] <fabro> i'm gettin an error in this archive:  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[15:19] <fabro> is it safe for me to erase the file or do I have to do something else?
[15:19] <fabro> (i've tryed editing the file by hand, as I've read in some forums)
[15:20] <fabro> (now I can't open synaptic without getting an error)
[15:20] <genii> fabro: The exact error might be useful
[15:21] <fabro> ok, just a sec
[15:21] <ubuntu> just testing jaunty beta
[15:21] <ubuntu> looks great :)
[15:21] <genii> victim: I explained already. Use : apt-cache policy packagename to derive the number/version to use for the apt-get install directive
[15:21] <fabro> Por favor, informe de ésto como un fallo en el paquete «update-manager» e incluya el siguiente mensaje de error:
[15:21] <fabro> 'E:Tipo 'http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list' desconocido en la línea 1 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list, E:No se pudieron leer las listas de fuentes.'
[15:22] <fabro> (my sistem is in spanish)
[15:23] <genii> fabro: Put in the file:   deb http://wherever                          instead of just: http://wherever
[15:23] <fabro> ok...
[15:24] <genii> fabro: No, wait. Please use pastebin website to show us the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:25] <fabro> wow, i was about to do it, how do use that?
[15:25] <fabro> where is pastebin?
[15:25] <genii> !paste
[15:25] <genii> fabro: The bot explains it , just above
[15:25] <fabro> ok...
[15:26] <cuznt> but there is also a pastebinit program to
[15:26] <cuznt> it auto pastes it
[15:26] <cuznt> though i forget how to do it
[15:27] <fabro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/143507/
[15:28] <fabro> (is the link right?)
[15:28] <genii> Yes
[15:29] <fabro> ok, this is one of the only two things to have the sistem fully functional
[15:29] <yaa_> nope
[15:29] <genii> fabro: Hm. Not to paste the error, but the contents of file. Do:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list        and then pastebin that, please
[15:29] <fabro> the error is not on that file
[15:30] <fabro> the error is in etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[15:30] <fabro> do I paste the content of that file anyway?
[15:31] <genii> fabro: Whichever file the malformed line is in
[15:32] <fabro> that's the one
[15:32] <genii> Work is needing me here on and off right now, please excuse lag
[15:32] <fabro> sure, no problem, I can fully operate my comuter
[15:33] <fabro> the only thing is that synaptic crashes everytime I open it
[15:33] <fabro> so, there's no rush
[15:33] <fabro> (i'm not sure if I'm flooding you with so many posts, If so I'm really sorry)
[15:35] <genii> fabro: So:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list       and then pastebin results of that
[15:35] <fabro> cat?
[15:35] <genii> fabro: It seems malformed line which needs "deb" or "deb-src" in front but would like to make sure
[15:35] <genii> fabro: Yes, cat
[15:36] <fabro> I don't know what that means
[15:36] <fabro> (sorry)
[15:37] <genii> fabro: It means to type in:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list                ...which will put the contents of the file ont he screen. Then copy fromt he screen to the pastebin website so we can all see the file.
[15:38] <genii> fabro: cat=concatene
[15:41] <fabro> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143513/
[15:48] <genii> fabro: I do not know why it seems to want to go to the internet when you are doing the "cat" command. Maybe this is output from a different console appearing or from stdout. But here is the result of same command on my computer for instance (hardy and not intrepid): http://paste.ubuntu.com/143515/
[15:49] <genii> fabro: Note it puts " deb"  before the url.
[15:49] <fabro> so you're saying I should edit the file and put "deb " before the url?
[15:51] <genii> fabro: Yes, now you are beginning to understand
[15:52] <fabro> ok, great, i'll do that, thanks
[15:53] <genii> fabro: Or instead you could just move the directory somewhere for backup, then follow the instructions of: http://winehq.org/download/deb
[15:55] <cuznt> !
[15:56] <fabro> ok, I'm reading it (I added the "deb " but I got another error
[15:57] <genii> fabro: The url you have in there is not correct, aside from the no "deb" at beginning of it. Best to read the site and follow it
[15:57] <fabro> I got this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/143518/
[15:58] <fabro> ok, then I'll read it though out
[15:58] <fabro> thanks a lot and sorry for the time wasted
[16:00] <joshjtl> I'm having lock ups that require manual shutdown, the cursor is still moveable but nothing else is
[16:00] <joshjtl> the only thing i've done differently of late that i can think of is using preload, and booting without "splash", and with "vga=791" in kernel line...
[16:02] <genii> joshjtl: I'd suspect the preload
[16:03] <joshjtl> genii: ok, so my only recourse would be uninstalling preload then?
[16:04] <genii> joshjtl: PErhaps try that and see if it is the cause. If it isn't, reinstall it and return for more help on same subject
[16:04] <joshjtl> genii: good idea, i will do just that
[16:05] <genii> Work, AFK
[16:05] <joshjtl> genii: do you know if i need to do anything
[16:05] <joshjtl> other than just uninstalll preload
[16:06] <joshjtl> genii: for example do i need to reboot or anythingg?
[16:09] <lovre> why do my applications allways forget the dimensions i set? Example, i want to open dolphin in fullscreen, but it allways opens as window
[16:10] <genii> joshjtl:A reboot would be best to make sure. Did you use some directive in grub like "profile"  or such?
[16:10] <joshjtl> genii: no just removed splash, and added vga=791
[16:11] <genii> joshjtl: OK.
[16:11] <joshjtl> genii: is there anywhere i can look, a log maybe where i might be able to find info on what is causing this?
[16:13] <fabro> sorry genii, but I've read it twice and don't seem to get the point, what links the site you gave me to my problem?
[16:13] <genii> joshjtl: There are many logs in /var/log     the usual ones to look at are: messages boot faillog      and so on
[16:13] <genii> fabro: It seems fairly self-explanatory
[16:14] <genii> fabro: http://winehq.org/download/deb
[16:14] <fabro> ok
[16:15] <genii> fabro: They may also be able to assist you better in channel #ubuntu-es  if you prefer Espanol
[16:25] <Lego> hey guys, i just installed the compiz stuff from the desktop effects, and rebooted.. how do i use the cube and all the other features of compiz?
[16:26] <Lego> like the wobbly windows, fire, snow, cube, all that fun stuff?
[16:26] <umakant> i
[16:27] <Lego> i?
[16:28] <Lego> in bsd it installed e ccsm and emerald theme manager but i don't see either of those
[16:28]  * umakant yawns and goes back to sleep 
[16:28] <Lego> and when i go into the desktop effects, it ust give me the 4 options, none, some, more, custom, i have it set to custom.. but don't know were to customize them
[16:29] <fosco__> Lego, execute ccsm in a terminal
[16:30] <Lego> hmm seems it didnt' install that part
[16:31] <fosco__> if ccsm is not installed it will tell you hot to install it
[16:31] <lovre> please help, in what repository can i find this: gtk-qt-engines-kde4
[16:31] <Lego> yes it did, thanks, but why didn't it install it when it installed the compiz stuff from the desktop effects, and i assume i will have to do the same with the emerald theme manager?
[16:32] <fosco__> lovre, aptitude show gtk-qt-engines-kde4
[16:32] <fosco__> Lego, yes
[16:33] <lovre> fosco__: with default repos
[16:41] <jimdb_> .
[16:43] <ubuser> X
[16:53] <Lego> ok one more question now.. why does my cube only have a front and back ? and they are tight upagainst each other.. instead of showing a cube?
[16:54] <fosco__> because you have two desktops only
[16:54] <fosco__> use ccsm to set 4 desktops
[16:55] <Lego> i tried and it won't change it just sits at one
[16:55] <fosco__> make sure you do it in the right place
[16:56] <fosco__> ccsm - general options - desktop size
[16:56] <Lego> general -> desktops -> 2
[16:56] <Lego> 4*
[16:57] <Lego> ccsm, is locked at 1, and the kicker shows 2, and when i configure kicker and set it to 4 it does nothing
[16:59] <Lego> ok so i got the kicker showing 4 desktops but when i enable the cube again, all i get is front and back
[16:59] <Lego> ccsm won't let me change the number of desktops, is blue and locked at 1
[17:00] <|PaperTiger|> Why do I have to restart X, then restart my computer every time I boot up just to get my second display working?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> |PaperTiger|: what video card?
[17:02] <|PaperTiger|> ATi Radeon X1600 PRO
[17:02] <Lego> hmm nope no luck.. i changed it to 4 and it put 8 and when i re-inable copiz, it drops the planes to 4 again, but he cube only shows front and back
[17:03] <|PaperTiger|> ActionParsnip, I don't know if I have to restart X, but that's the first thing I try, so I don't know if I HAVE to do it to get it to work
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> try that to evaluate settings
[17:04] <denis_> !de
[17:04] <amgarching> what is the easiest way to install gcc 4.4 snapschot on ubuntu Intrepid?
[17:14] <Lego> ok i've set the desktops to 1 and still when i enable compiz my cube is just front and back :S
[17:14] <Lego> sorry 4*
[17:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey.. i used to come into this room long ago
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> is anyone here?
[17:17] <bazhang> yes
[17:17] <amgarching> does it make sense trying to install gcc-snapshot (20090327-0ubuntu1) from Jaunty repos onto Intrepid?
[17:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> is this the room id come into if i was actually running kubuntu, and opened x-chat?
[17:18] <genii> amgarching: Perhaps ask them questions of this nature in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[17:20] <fosco__> amgarching, no need to do that
[17:21] <fosco__> spiel_mit_feuer, this room is for kubuntu assistance, if you have any kubuntu question this is your place
[17:21] <spiel_mit_feuer> yeah? so? i might install kubuntu soon
[17:22] <amgarching> fosco__: ? I want most recent GCC 4.4, what do I do instead?
[17:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> im getting a new computer on monday, comes pre-equipped with windows XP home SP3, and what id assume will be a few gigs of trailware.. so im getting rid of that installation
[17:23] <spiel_mit_feuer> not sure what i will put on in its place
[17:28] <legolasfa> i have a problem with GRUB
[17:28] <legolasfa> at boot it repeats recursivly "GRUB"
[17:29] <keisangi> hi there, i have a problem with kde (jaunty beta, latest kde) "moving files to trash" is extremely slow
[17:29] <genii> spiel_mit_feuer: I usually dd the factory Windows install to some backup as well. A lot of companies won't honour the warranty if it's not running the OS they supplied it with (or that they are not familiar with)
[17:29] <keisangi> delete is as fast as usual, but move to trash is very slow
[17:29] <genii> keisangi: #ubuntu+1 please for 9.04/Jaunty
[17:29] <mat69> does anybody know why kde nightly did not get updated the last weeks?
[17:29] <keisangi> genii: k, tnx
[17:30] <BluesKaj> !grub | legolasfa
[17:30] <amgarching> keisangi: do you delete them from your home directory?
[17:30] <genii> legolasfa: This sometimes happens if you chainload a second drive and then THAT drive also has grub installed
[17:31] <fosco__> keisangi, are deleted files and trash dir located at the same partition?
[17:45] <tdstrong> Hey everyone.  Just wondering if anyone can tell me what reasonable CPU usages would look like for xorg and plasma when viewing them in 'top'.  My xorg is eating up 10% CPU and plasma is using 6%.  Reasonable?
[17:45] <cuznt> i think so
[17:46] <etric> sounds normal tdstrong
[17:46] <cuznt> my x varies between 1 and 5 but i have 2g ram
[17:47] <florian> h
[17:47] <tdstrong> Same here.2GB RAM, intel c2 duo @ 2.66Ghz
[17:47] <cuznt> @ 136 processes i am @ about 11 % to fity %
[17:47] <tdstrong> nVidia drivers, as that probably makes a difference.
[17:47] <cuznt> i killed fity men so you could have gigrams
[17:48] <cuznt> duo...
[17:48] <cuznt> i am single athlon
[17:48] <tdstrong> Wow.  Seems like my load should be closer to yours.
[17:49] <tdstrong> You using compositing & desktop effects?
[17:49] <fmk> hi, i've a question belonging to the k-menu!After the last update (wednesday) the fokus in the menu is not at the search box!? how can i get the fokus back at it?
[17:49] <cuznt> and i am running furthur and amarok
[17:50] <cuznt> !fokus
[17:50] <cuznt> nor do i fmk
[17:50] <fmk> hilight
[17:51] <fmk> sorry
[17:51] <cuznt> did you try right clicking?
[17:51] <fmk> at the kmenu?
[17:51] <cuznt> sure
[17:51] <cuznt> it might have been turned off for a reason though
[17:51] <fmk> yes but there is no property for the search box
[17:51] <ml9> ciao
[17:51] <cuznt> an inrelated conflict somewhere
[17:51] <ml9> c'è qualcuno italiano?
[17:52] <cuznt> !it
[17:52] <cuznt> ciao
[17:52] <cuznt> ;)
[17:52] <ml9> grazie
[17:54] <gulian_zz> hello?
[17:54] <tdstrong> for what it's worth, my xorg cpu usage has gone back to toggling between 2 and 6.  Thanks again for all the help!
[17:54] <|PaperTiger|> How do I install the radeonhd driver for my graphics card?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !radeon
[17:56] <ml9> porco cane nn riesco ad aprire messenger
[17:57] <DarkTan> how does one go about installing programs from .bin files?
[18:01] <genii> DarkTan: It is some app which was not in the (k)ubuntu repositories which you manually downloaded instead, to install?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands in the rain :P
[18:01] <DarkTan> yeah, Adobe AIR
[18:02] <joshjtl> does anyone how to reset dolphin... something to do with HOME= something or other i forgot
[18:02] <|PaperTiger|> If I've used Adept to download the latest ATi Driver, do I just edit the driver information in xorg.conf?
[18:05] <genii> DarkTan: Make the file executable. eg: sudo chmod +x filename.bin      then run it by :  ./filename.bin          (may need sudo depending )
[18:05] <wolfgang> hey guys.. i installed kubuntu 9.04 (beta) (cause network was messed up in 8.10).. and now my printer (canon i80) doesn't work
[18:06] <wolfgang> any ideas?
[18:06] <genii> wolfgang: Ask in #ubuntu+1 for 9.04/Jaunty please
[18:06] <wolfgang> kk
[18:06] <DarkTan> ok, tried "./AdobeAIR.bin" got "access denied" gonna try to make is excutable
[18:07] <DarkTan> that did ti
[18:07] <DarkTan> it*
[18:07] <DarkTan> thx
[18:07] <genii> DarkTan: Welcome
[18:13] <jirka_> good evening, I have one problem, today apt upgraded my instalation to KDE v 4.2 (I had one activated respository with amarok and I forgot to check which version it wants to instal). Is there any easy way how to downgrade it to KDE 4.1?
[18:15] <Guest58909> hi
[18:16] <joshjtl> okay i have discovered the source of my lockups (require manual power off) Gimp! when I'm using gimp I get these unrecoverable lock ups..
[18:16] <joshjtl> problem is I really need gimp right now...
[18:17] <Guest58909> any one know how apply the especific propierities windows
[18:17] <Guest58909> ???
[18:19] <jhun> Coucou tout le monde
[18:19] <fosco__> !hi | jhun
[18:24] <DarkTan> are there any other /good/ image editing programs besides gimp?
[18:25] <Unksi> DarkTan: theres a software called krita in koffice, no idea how it compares to gimp though as ive never tried it out
[18:27] <DarkTan> ok, i might check that out
[18:28] <genii> Cinelerra also
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> open office draw
[18:28] <genii> (but more for video)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> kolourpaint ;)
[18:29]  * genii kolourpaints ActionParsnip!
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> its awesome :)
[18:29] <DarkTan> kolourpaint?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !info kolourpaint
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> DarkTan: think mspaint but for kde :D
[18:31] <DarkTan> ahh
[18:31] <PhilippeP> hmmmm , I'm trying to upgrade to beta but update-notifier-kde -d answers that ther is no upgrade available (with kdesudo it just stalls)
[18:31]  * DarkTan was looking for something a little more....advanced
[18:35] <cuznt> the back up program seems to no longer be in kubuntu 9.04 Beta?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | cuznt
[18:36] <genii> ActionParsnip: Yer a factoid maniac today! ;)
[18:36] <cuznt> i was told from a peep in #quassell that from dmesg my hd was crapping the p00p00 platter
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> genii: just lazy
[18:41] <genii> !info backup-manager
[18:41] <genii> !info backup-manager jaunty
[18:41] <genii> Hm.
[18:42] <cuznt> hmm is what i said
[18:42] <cuznt> i dropped my whole /jome/faydriss into /opt/comby/private a 500g storage
[18:42] <cuznt> but im sweating bullets i tell ya
[18:43] <PhilippeP> hmmmm , I'm trying to upgrade 8.10 to beta 9.04 but "update-notifier-kde -d" answers that ther is no upgrade available !!!
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: kdesudo update-notifier-kde -d
[18:47] <PhilippeP> ActionParsnip: if I use kdesudo ... in a terminal it just stalls after reading packagelist ...
[18:48] <nighstalker> Is anyone having trouble with their programs disasppearing at random in Ibex? Every since I've upgraded, programs just randomly turn off and disappear with no errors or anything. I've done a reformat and reinstall to see if that would fix it, but no luck.
[18:50] <ubuser> How do I change the home in dolphin kde 4.2?
[18:51] <yoritomo> hello all
[18:51] <Mamarok> ubuser: how that, change the home?
[18:51] <ubuser> Dolphin starts in /ho
[18:52] <Mamarok> ubuser: did you try changing the default folder in the settings?
[18:52] <ubuser> Dolphin starts in /home/myname/documents. I wish to start it in /home/myname
[18:53] <yoritomo> anyone got success installing a Lexmark printer 2300 series on ubuntu or kubuntu 8.10  with the propriétary driver?
[18:54] <Mamarok> yoritomo: never tried that, sry
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: try sudo instead
[18:54] <PhilippeP> ubuser : first thing you see when you go to dolphin config is what you need
[18:54] <Mamarok> PhilippeP: guess what I answered :)
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: sudo update-notifier -d
[18:55] <PhilippeP> just tryed no upgrade available .
[18:55] <PhilippeP> Mamarok: :)
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/12/howto-upgrade-to-jaunty-jackalope.html
[18:56] <yoritomo> driver installation is launching but at the time to connect the printer, no detection, still requesting
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-to-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-beta.html
[18:56] <g_> dolphin keeps crashing in the fully updated intrepid, I can't even copy pictures from a memory card into a file folder without the damn thing crashing
[18:57] <PhilippeP> ActionParsnip: I'll try ...
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: you could try reinstalling the upgrade manager
[18:58] <PhilippeP> update-manager not on my system :/ ok
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: sudo apt-get install update-manager; kdesudo update-manager -d
[19:01] <PhilippeP> ActionParsnip: isn't update-manager supposed to be Gnome related ?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: its all ubuntu at the end end of the day
[19:05] <PhilippeP> ActionParsnip: yeah I know ... :)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: see what deps are needed for it, if you use firefox you will have most of them already no doubt
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: better?
[19:11] <PhilippeP> ActionParsnip: not really, update-manager installed and guess what my system is up to date  ...
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> PhilippeP: try a reboot
[19:13] <noren_> hi all
[19:13] <noren_> got stuck in the konsole mode how to get back to the kdm login window
[19:14] <noren_> !kdm
[19:14] <noren_> !x
[19:15] <noren_> oh tahnks got it
[19:16] <joshjtl> is there anyway I can ctrl+tab through apps that are on all desktops?
[19:18] <cuznt> http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7249853&page=1
[19:19] <cuznt> oops wrong winder
[19:19] <cuznt> sorry
[19:27] <subcool> Hey- i would like to back up my DVD's, anyone know of a good App?
[19:28] <MadDud> Hello everybody.
[19:28] <MadDud> Guys, kubuntu 8.04 (kde3.5) last update crashed my kde, and i can not bring it back...
[19:29] <thedman> Is there any way to have the taskbar panel on desktop 1 but not on desktop 2 ?
[19:30] <MadDud> this update containet lots of "uninstall" options :-/
[19:30] <MadDud> is there any way to roll back last update?
[19:35] <almoxarifado-2> O QUE E ISSO??
[19:35] <almoxarifado-2> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
[19:35] <almoxarifado-2> ??
[19:36] <bazhang> brasil?
[19:36] <fosco__> !pt | almoxarifado-2
[19:37] <almoxarifado-2> OK
[19:39] <administrator_> hello
[19:39] <almoxarifado-2> hello
[19:40] <administrator_> I was wondering if you guys could give me a quick help with kubuntu?
[19:40] <almoxarifado-2> what's your names?
[19:40] <administrator_> administrator?
[19:40] <administrator_> ?
[19:41] <administrator_> !nick help
[19:41] <administrator_> !nick Arminius
[19:41] <administrator_> !nick
[19:41] <mefisto__> !ask
[19:41] <almoxarifado-2> sorry, I don't know
[19:41] <cuznt> !botsnack
[19:41] <administrator_> my problem is with the "MPlayer"
[19:42]  * cuznt is sometimes known as
[19:42] <cuznt> !mplayer
[19:42] <cuznt> whats the difficulty admin
[19:43] <Arminius_> well when I start it I get an error message
[19:43] <Arminius_> AO pulse could not connect to server
[19:43] <almoxarifado-2> my problem is with the "Amarok"
[19:43] <Arminius_> but I can still read the video I want
[19:43] <Arminius_> it's just a bit annoying...
[19:43] <cuznt> do you use pulse?
[19:43] <fosco__> Arminius_, try -ao alsa or -ao arts
[19:44] <fosco__> more info with -ao help
[19:44] <cuznt> or maybe that feature needs to be unchecked
[19:44] <Arminius_> well I don't really know what pulse is :$
[19:44] <Arminius_> I am pretty new to kubuntu
[19:44] <cuznt> so am i
[19:45] <Arminius_> for the -ao thing, it tells me  command not found...
[19:45] <almoxarifado-2> more info with help
[19:45] <fosco__> Arminius_, wow, mplayer -ao help
[19:45] <Arminius_> ok
[19:46] <fosco__> Arminius_, we were talking about mplayer
[19:46] <cuznt> mplayer -ao help  why -ao and no mplayer --help
[19:46] <Arminius_> ah ok sorry :s
[19:46] <almoxarifado-2> do you think??
[19:46] <cuznt> not
[19:46] <cuznt> mplayer -ao help  why -ao and not mplayer --help ?
[19:46] <fosco__> cuznt, mplayer -ao help <-- gives you help on sound only
[19:46] <mtavares> hello all!
[19:46] <cuznt> sweet
[19:47] <Arminius_> ok that works
[19:47] <cuznt> ty
[19:47] <Arminius_> I get a list of options
[19:47] <almoxarifado-2> ok,
[19:47] <mtavares> can anyone tell me how come havin two computers with the same apt source.list they don't have the same updates available?
[19:47] <genii> mtavares: A lot depends on whats installed on each.
[19:48] <Arminius_> and what do I have to do now?
[19:48] <genii> mtavares: It won't grab updates for something you don't have installed, for instance
[19:48] <mtavares> genii: well.. I want to update to kde 4.2, but this computer is stuck on 4.1
[19:48] <cuznt> kick it!
[19:48] <cuznt> just kidding
[19:49] <mtavares> genii: the other comp updated just fine to kde4.2
[19:49] <toby_> My 8.10 system today notified me of a whole slew of updates, but it also wants to remove a *lot* of packages, e.g. adept, akregator, amarok-kde4, dolphin... seems like most of KDE! Any idea what that's about?
[19:49] <mefisto__> cuznt: the fonzie method
[19:49] <cuznt> it is.... i must whack it to get my old dvd to read @ times....
[19:49] <Arminius_> because there are a lot of options and I don't really know which one to choose :s
[19:50]  * cuznt waits to upgrade pc
[19:50] <fosco__> Arminius_, mplayer -ao "whateveryouget" file.avi
[19:50] <mtavares> genii: and shouldn't I be able to see that there are updates available for dolphin (for example)?
[19:50] <fosco__> for example: mplauer -ao alsa file.avi
[19:50] <fosco__> mplayer*
[19:51] <Arminius_> ok thanks, just a sec... testing
[19:51] <eagles0513875> !pt | almoxarifado-2:
[19:51] <bazhang> almoxarifado-2, please dont PM me
[19:51] <eagles0513875> bazhang: he did same thing to me
[19:53] <Arminius_> yeah now it works without any bug :D
[19:53] <Arminius_> but will work also if I start it the normal way?
[19:53] <Arminius_> (without konsole)
[19:54] <genii> mtavares: You'll only see that "updates are available" when it's for something you're currently using. Otherwise just the list of what versions of what are updated
[19:54] <mefisto__> Arminius_: you can set it to use alsa (or whatever is working for you) in preferences. right-click on mplayer, preferences
[19:54] <Arminius_> ok
[19:55] <Arminius_> thanks a lot for your help everyone!!!
[19:57] <Arminius_> works great now
[19:57] <Arminius_> :D
[19:57] <Arminius_> ^^
[19:57] <toby_> I removed http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu from the repos and it seems to be okay now... I think I added that for Amarok2 ages ago
[19:58] <Arminius_> just 2 questions....
[19:58] <Arminius_> do you suggest updating from KDE 4.1 to 4.2?
[19:58] <cuznt> yes
[19:58] <Arminius_> or doesn't it change a thing
[19:58] <Arminius_> ok
[19:59] <Arminius_> and I am programming aps windows, can I help programming Kunbuntu by any chance?
[19:59] <Arminius_> in windows
[20:00] <Arminius_> I mainly programmed in Object pascal (Delphi (yeah I know, everyone tells me not to...)) and have some bases in C++
[20:02] <Arminius_> is there a devellopers channel?
[20:02] <cuznt> i think so
[20:02] <Heigou> hi any help? availiable?
[20:03] <cuznt> go to kde.org
[20:03] <Arminius_> ok
[20:03] <cuznt> nose around
[20:03] <cuznt> !ask
[20:03] <Heigou> kk
[20:03] <Heigou> thc
[20:03] <Heigou> my first day of kubuntu
[20:03] <rickest> Arminius_: #kubuntu-devel and a host of others
[20:03] <Arminius_> thanks!
[20:03] <Arminius_> #kubuntu-devel
[20:04] <Arminius_> Heigou great change ;)
[20:04] <Heigou> I have BT Voyager 1040 wireless and atm i am using an ethernet cable, i have ndiswrapper, what do i do from here?
[20:04] <mtavares> genii: found out what was happening. I had a /etc/apt/preferences that was making apt ignore the packages from the kde 4.2 launchpad
[20:05] <Arminius_> I am gonna quit the channel tschau ;) and thanks a lot for you help! you are great guys!
[20:05] <Heigou> of the many people on here i am surprised no one replies
[20:06] <mtavares> Heigou: well... what do you do from here... Don't know. Where do you want to get?
[20:06] <yaa_> nobidy knows which way to help you
[20:06] <yaa_> nobody
[20:07] <Heigou> i want to get wireless working
[20:08] <almox> Hi,
[20:12] <mefisto__> !wireless
[20:13] <Heigou> k
[20:13] <almox> my probl is Amarok.....not work MP3
[20:16] <mefisto__> almox: do other players play mp3?
[20:17] <almox> yes
[20:17] <joshjtl> hey who was it that told me about a dolphin fix including HOME= something... ?
[20:19] <cuznt> it was that other guy he said it
[20:19] <cuznt> yeah....
[20:20] <joshjtl> cuznt: you remember?
[20:20] <cuznt> no i was being a smart ass
[20:21] <cuznt> it should be /home/joshjtl in your case
[20:21] <cuznt> what exactly was the problem?
[20:21] <cuznt> mine is not my nick
[20:21]  * cuznt is a tricky guy
[20:22] <joshjtl> cuznt: well i logged into ftp from dolphin and it messed up moving things to trash (started taking for ever) then i fixed it using something from cli HOME= somthing mytempdir... but i forgot what i did
[20:22] <cuznt> ftp?
[20:22] <cuznt> with dolphin?
[20:22] <cuznt> i did not know you could do that
[20:23] <mefisto__> almox: try installing libxine1-all-plugins then restart amarok
[20:23] <mefisto__> !info libxine1-all-plugins
[20:26] <almox> thanks.ok
[20:27] <tehnewbpwnz0r> Hello
[20:27] <almox> Hello
[20:28] <almox> how are you?
[20:30] <mirian> hello
[20:30] <almox> mirin: hello
[20:31] <mirian> hawar you
[20:33] <rafal> hi
[20:33] <luis_> alguien habla español
[20:33] <cuznt> !hi
[20:33] <luis_> ???????????????????
[20:33] <genii> !es | luis_
[20:33] <rafal> I'm testing all programs and i connected here :)
[20:34] <rafal> cya
[20:35] <siekacz> hi
[20:36] <siekacz> how to upgrate to beta when update-notifier-kde -d doesn't work?
[20:37] <donatello> hi all! whi launching knetworkmanager don't need of "sudo" password?
[20:37] <mirian> ummmm good
[20:44] <wizardslovak> hello
[20:45]  * genii hands out more coffees
[20:45] <wizardslovak> always when i type "apt-get install file" i am getting error:Couldn't find package file
[20:45] <wizardslovak> i just installed kubuntun on laptop and cant install any other software
[20:46] <wizardslovak> could it be that i have wireless
[20:47] <wizardslovak> hello
[20:47] <wizardslovak> anyones here??
[20:47] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: are you connected with wireless? are you using the wireless to connect here for example?
[20:47] <wizardslovak> yes i do
[20:48] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: ok what are you trying to install?
[20:48] <wizardslovak> so i've decided to install firefox from .tar.bz2 but for that i need to get "build-essentials"
[20:49] <wizardslovak> i am using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware as my source
[20:49] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: sudo apt-get install firefox <-- that doesn't work?
[20:50] <wizardslovak> "package firefox is not available,but is reffere to another package"
[20:50] <wizardslovak> i got firefox.tar.bz2 and i want to install it from it
[20:51] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: kdesudo software-properties-kde
[20:52] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: go to the "third-party software" tab and make sure the cdrom is NOT enabled
[20:53] <wizardslovak> CDrom is not enabled
[20:55] <wizardslovak> hmm i wonder if wireless has something to do with it
[20:57] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: in the first tab, try changing to a different download server
[20:57] <wizardslovak> i changed  "server of USA" to "main server"
[20:58] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: when you close it, it should do an update. after that try to install firefox again
[20:59] <wizardslovak> same think
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> Something must be wrong with your software sources
[21:00] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: can you ping archive.ubuntu.com
[21:01] <wizardslovak> whats the command?
[21:01] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: ping archive.ubuntu.com
[21:01] <wizardslovak> ok its pinging ,what am i looking for?
[21:02] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: ok if it's working that's ok. ctrl-C to stop it
[21:02] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[21:02] <wizardslovak> ok i did stop it
[21:03] <mefisto__> !pastebin
[21:03] <wizardslovak> how do i view sources.list?
[21:04] <Dragnslcr> Open it in kate
[21:04] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: kate /etc/apt/sources.list    will open it in kate
[21:05] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/d27ae6c26
[21:08] <mefisto__> seems ok to me. anyone see anything wrong there?
[21:08] <wizardslovak> well i just installed fresh copy of kubuntu
[21:09] <wizardslovak> i can browse internet normally i just can't get apt-get command
[21:09] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: sudo apt-get update <-- does that work?
[21:11] <almox> evilgeni..Hi
[21:11] <almox> genii: hello
[21:11] <yoritomo> i have big big problems suddenly after launching the automatic update, nothing works anymore due to broken packets
[21:11] <genii> almox: Hi
[21:11] <sylvar> I'm having trouble with viewing a Java applet in Firefox 3 on kubuntu intrepid. One public example of the applet is at http://213.3.12.141:81/Jview.htm -- is there anyone out there who can actually see the streaming video rather than just a gray box?
[21:12] <yoritomo> no more konsole, no more source list utility ......
[21:12] <yoritomo> how to start to fix it ?
[21:12] <__-osh-__> Hi. I have an old 6.06 that I thought I'd upgrade since it's no longer supported (or won't be soon?). How do I go about it? Trying a "sudo do-release-upgrade -p" but that fails... space requrements on /boot it seems.
[21:12] <wizardslovak_> so naything people?
[21:12] <yoritomo> even adept and synaptic not working :s
[21:12] <genii> sylvar: I see there a variety store counter with a cooler next to it
[21:12] <wizardslovak_> maybe it cant find route to internet
[21:12] <__-osh-__> Is there some other way of upgrading that won't download everything to /boot?
[21:14] <__-osh-__> sylvar: I get some sort of control-panel with zoom, pan, tilt and stuff...
[21:14] <wizardslovak_> mefisto__: ??
[21:14] <__-osh-__> sylvar: but that's in konqueror. sorry. didn't read properly. but is that what's supposed to be there?
[21:14] <mefisto__> wizardslovak_: sudo apt-get update <-- does that work?
[21:15] <bmunger> I am a bit confused on how to use the GUI in Kubuntu 9.04 beta to configure a static IP address for my ethernet card.  It seems I have to create a new connection or something.  Does anyone know how this is supposed to work?
[21:15] <wizardslovak_> this works
[21:15] <mefisto__> !jaunty | bmunger
[21:15] <sylvar> genii: OK, that's what I want to be able to see.  If you sudo update-alternatives --config java, what package is selected to handle java?
[21:15] <genii> almox: Please don't PM me. I assist in public channel only. Also it is just generally rude to message people without first asking
[21:15] <__-osh-__> sylvar: In firefox there's a video of some kind of box...
[21:16] <__-osh-__> sylvar: which appears zoomable...
[21:16] <sylvar> __-osh-__: really? dang... I get the controls but not the video...
[21:16] <wizardslovak_> ok i tried apt-get install wine and it works too
[21:17] <__-osh-__> bmunger: I could tell you how to do it in a console.
[21:17] <wizardslovak_> now it works
[21:17] <__-osh-__> bmunger: but not in gui.
[21:17] <mefisto__> wizardslovak_: try installing firefox now
[21:17] <wizardslovak_> i typed apt-get install firefox and its installing
[21:17] <wizardslovak_> what was wrong??
[21:17] <sylvar> at the moment I'm using /usr/bin/gij-4.3
[21:17] <raccoon_> gij?
[21:17] <raccoon_> what's that?
[21:17] <bmunger> __-osh-__: oh i already know how to use ifconfig, im just curious so I can help others that will have this question
[21:17] <__-osh-__> sylvar: firefox 3.0.8. And now there's someone moving about in the picture...
[21:18] <sylvar> I also have /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-cacao/jre/bin/java and /usr/bin/cacao and /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java available
[21:18] <raccoon_> yeah i heard about ifconfig
[21:18] <genii> sylvar: (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.10/bin/java). Nothing to configure
[21:18] <__-osh-__> bmunger: it's also in /etc/network/interfaces if you want it to be permanent... =)
[21:18] <mefisto__> wizardslovak_: the apt-get update did it, it seems. but when you changed download servers, that should have done the same thing
[21:18] <sylvar> genii: thanks. hm. perhaps i should download it directly from sun.
[21:19] <noren> hi there how to know the cpu temp
[21:19] <wizardslovak_> lol you see i am newbie lolz
[21:19] <bmunger> __-osh-__: yea i read about that too... thanks
[21:19] <wizardslovak_> is there command to update all drivers on my laptop?
[21:19] <sylvar> oh, and i maybe should have mentioned i'm using 64bit. didn't realize that might have anything to do with it. (might it?)
[21:20] <raccoon_> hi wizard you can use a program named envy
[21:20] <__-osh-__> noren: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone or similar...
[21:20] <raccoon_> that configures all drivers wothout getting worried
[21:20] <genii> sylvar: Quite possbily. This box is 32bit
[21:20] <wizardslovak_> raccoon_: envy? never heard of it
[21:20] <mefisto__> wizardslovak_: sudo apt-get upgrade  will upgrade everything you have installed that is upgradeable
[21:20] <genii> !envyng
[21:20] <raccoon_> yea
[21:20] <raccoon_> i only install the core
[21:20] <noren> !temp
[21:20] <genii> !info lm-sensors
[21:20] <__-osh-__> noren: I already answered you.
[21:21] <mefisto__> wizardslovak_: if you see a message about some things being "held back" do this: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:21] <sylvar> genii: which package should i install to get the correct version of java for applets in firefox, then?
[21:21] <genii> noren: You want lm-sensors and sensord    and some panel app like Kima or Ksensors to monitor them
[21:21] <noren> i dont know how to use that to find out is that something i have to run in konsole
[21:21] <__-osh-__> Is there a recommended way of upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04 on a headless system?
[21:22] <noren> genii: i got lm sensor and sensord but cant fig out which of them is cpu temp
[21:22] <genii> sylvar: Don't know, offhand, sorry
[21:22] <mefisto__> !upgrade | __-osh-__
[21:22] <sylvar> genii++ __-osh-__++ for the help!
[21:23] <wizardslovak_> lol its upgrading 150mbs
[21:24] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: right, is it a problem that I don't have the directory /etc/update-manager/ as the instructions say?
[21:25] <noren> there are so many different temp values,, which one is cpu temp http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/143675/
[21:25] <wizardslovak_> what program to use to open jpg?
[21:26] <raccoon_> wizard: gwenview for example
[21:27] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: I don't see where it says that. what page? hardy upgrades?
[21:27] <BOZG> noren: The four core temps are your cpu temps.
[21:28] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[21:28] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: step2
[21:28] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:28] <noren> BOZG: cud u please tell me wat are others for, and why four core tem, ??
[21:29] <BOZG> noren: What CPU do you have?
[21:29] <BOZG> I'll assume it's a Core 2 Quad
[21:29] <BOZG> Or a Phenom X4
[21:29] <wizardslovak_> i always wanted to know ubuntu server but couldnt find any courses
[21:30] <doug_f> hay peeps got something goofy going on knetwork manager is killing my computer I think. . . It takes at least 5 minutes to respond and there is a root process taking up 98.6% time on one of my CPUs. Process name [events/1] any ideas?
[21:30] <noren> BOZG: product: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+
[21:30] <noren>           vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
[21:30] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: the problem is that following those instructions will have me deleting even the running kernel in /boot. Not a good option.
[21:30] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: I only have two kernels in there now but it still sais it needs more space.
[21:31] <BOZG> Most new processors have a number of cores.
[21:31] <BOZG> Rather than just a single core.
[21:31] <BOZG> So, you get the core temperatures of all the cores.
[21:31] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: you sure you don't have /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[21:31] <noren> BOZG: wats the safe core temp??
[21:31] <BOZG> Though I would have assumed that it would only give 2 temps if you've an X2, though I don't know all that much about CPU structures.
[21:32] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: yep. only /etc/updatedb.conf which isn't related. =)
[21:33] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades  has different instructions. have you looked at that?
[21:33] <BOZG> noren:  I think it depends on the chip but normally, 60C is warning level.
[21:33] <BOZG> And 70C causes an automatic shutdown.
[21:33] <BOZG> Depending on your BIOS.
[21:34] <doug_f> any ideas what [events/2] is?
[21:34] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[21:34] <BOZG> Your temperatures are fine.
[21:34] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: yeah, but 6.06 isnt' listed there yet so perhaps the support hasn't run out yet then?
[21:34] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: maybe I should hang on to dapper for now...
[21:35] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: that page says "Upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS"
[21:35] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: I thought dapper was running out of support around now. It's been on my machine for quite a while.
[21:36] <doug_f> also my virt terminals are hosed. Any ideas?
[21:37] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: NOW is see it. They've hidden it after 7.something...
[21:38] <mefisto__> __-osh-__: dapper *server* is supported until June 2011 according to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:38] <genii> Well, -server is
[21:38] <genii> Server is 5 years, desktop is 3
[21:39] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: And yes, I've followed those instructions "sudo do-release-upgrade"  but that only lands me in "free up some more space in /boot and come back". And the space it wants me to free up is * in /boot. Not an option. :-)
[21:40] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: but if it's supported for another 2 years then I should probably forget about it and worry 2011 if the machine hasn't broken down by then. =)
[21:41] <yoritomo> how to get the list of broken packets by tty ?
[21:41] <garthounet> je cherche un jerome
[21:41] <yoritomo> Konsole does and synaptic does not works
[21:42] <genii> !fr | garthounet
[21:42] <garthounet> yes i do
[21:42] <garthounet> i am a good boy in bed
[21:43] <yoritomo> Jerome is in Bob & Bobette :D
[21:44] <__-osh-__> mefisto__: thanks for helping me figure out that I can be lazy for a few more years. =)
[21:44] <garthounet> and i love lot of   girly's with me in mein bed
[21:44] <mefisto__> garthounet: go away
[21:45] <garthounet> i love fucking the military's and the fbi
[21:45] <noren> garthounet: ???
[21:46] <yoritomo> the only way i have is to repair my broken packets by tty , how to list them please ?
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> i have a question to those who use server
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> i want to make web server but it will be connected to router
[21:46] <noren> yoritomo: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:47] <wizardslovak_> how should i set up router/server so i can actually use it?
[21:47] <garthounet> ii can notice that the american are bad
[21:47] <wizardslovak_> i mean if computer writes web site ,it changes to ip and then finds computer with that ip
[21:48] <wizardslovak_> how Pc will find my computer if router has wan ip    and server had lan ip atc 192.168.1.100
[21:48] <garthounet> ich ficke jeden montag ubd jeden samstag ihren familie
[21:49] <noren> !ot | garthounet
[21:50] <yoritomo> noren thanks, but it did not resolve my problems :(
[21:51] <mefisto__> yoritomo: what's the problem exactly?
[21:52] <yoritomo> i did an automatic update by the icon in taskbar, then adept opened and made the updates, but after , horror, everything going bad, no more konsole, no more synaptic or even adept, and everything going bad
[21:53] <yoritomo> then i tryed to reinstall konsole by tty and i saw it has broken packets
[21:53] <mefisto__> yoritomo: sudo apt-get install -f
[21:55] <yoritomo> i did already, it just answer, 0 packet removed, 0 newly installed, 4 update not installed
[21:57] <mefisto__> yoritomo: was there any message when you did dist-upgrade ?
[21:58] <yoritomo> i had strange windows for a few progrmas requesting to enter password
[21:58] <yoritomo> it said if not the old one will still be used :s
[21:59] <yoritomo> ha sorry
[21:59] <yoritomo> no i got it when i made the auto update
[21:59] <yoritomo> yes i got message on dist-upgrade, but nothing major
[22:00] <mefisto__> what message?
[22:01] <yoritomo> i can't read it anymore under tty :(
[22:01] <yoritomo> but looks like no erros
[22:02] <mefisto__> ?
[22:04] <yoritomo> trying to install adept it says about a broken kdebase-runtime
[22:05] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get remove kdebase-runtime && sudo apt-get install adept
[22:05] <mefisto__> yoritomo: installing adept will probably install kdebase-runtime again
[22:06] <yoritomo> thanks i try now
[22:07] <BluesKaj> yoritomo, install synaptic , click on edit /fix broken packages, click apply
[22:09] <gng16m> hello
[22:09] <gng16m> nothing cool ??
[22:11] <gng16m> wtf !!!
[22:11] <BluesKaj> hi gng16m , just ask your question
[22:11] <fat_rat> !ohmy | gng16m
[22:11] <gng16m> ahm i just wanted to know if somebody is alive here
[22:12] <BluesKaj> nope , were all dead :)
[22:12] <BluesKaj> ziombie kubuntu
[22:12] <gng16m> lol
[22:13] <gng16m> wher r u from ? me -> AuT
[22:13] <mefisto__> !ot
[22:13] <fat_rat> lol
[22:14] <mefisto__> gng16m: just a boring help channel here
[22:15] <yoritomo> each things i try to reinstall it said about broken package which i am not able to réinstall because depending about other broken packages :s
[22:17] <BluesKaj> yoritomo, reboot into grub , choose the recovery kernel , thenwhen the dialog asks you about your bootup , choose "fix broken packages"
[22:18] <yoritomo> oh ok, good idea thanks
[22:18] <yoritomo> i come back soon
[22:18] <yoritomo> wait
[22:19] <monique> me ves?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> !es | monique
[22:22] <wizardslovak> how should i install openoffice?
[22:23] <wizardslovak> apt-get install ??
[22:23] <BluesKaj> yes
[22:23] <BluesKaj> sudo
[22:23] <mefisto__> wizardslovak: should already be installed
[22:23] <wizardslovak> ooo yea i didnt see it
[22:23] <wizardslovak> thx
[22:29] <joshjtl> anyone know how to use raptor plasma widget?
[22:31] <noren> war is that
[22:35] <mefisto__> raptor is an alternative menu/program launcher. doesn't seem very useable
[22:46] <yoritomo> re
[22:46] <eliboggs> hi all
[22:47] <yoritomo> he i am under windows, kubuntu just start on console mode :s
[22:47] <yoritomo> everything broken
[22:47] <yoritomo> the recovery packet fixer did not works in this case :(
[22:48] <yoritomo> mefisto__ i don't know what to do more :(
[22:49] <Theriex> How do I access Kubuntu's automount configuration 8.10?
[22:50] <floh> Hi. do anyone of you know how to add ntfs-parition into dolphin (left part, called "locations")?
[22:50] <yoritomo> what to do ?
[22:50] <floh> There is already "WinXP", but I want to add 2nd Partition, which is also ntfs.
[22:51] <mefisto__> yoritomo: you're on the same pc in windows?
[22:51] <Theriex> Nobody knows how I can access automount options?
[22:52] <yoritomo> yes
[22:52] <yoritomo> dual boot
[22:53] <yoritomo> with access to the ext2fs partitions by efs driver
[22:53] <mefisto__> yoritomo: can you still boot to kubuntu desktop?
[22:53] <yoritomo> then from here i can check some logs or other things
[22:53] <yoritomo> no more gui nor the log screen
[22:54] <yoritomo>  though when i do startx it is working
[22:54] <FabParma> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu, I am very happy, but I can't make changes in the "system setting". It seems that to edit needing a different user level. How to enter and make changes in  "system setting". Thank You
[22:55] <yoritomo> but only blank screen in graphic mode
[22:55] <mefisto__> yoritomo: so when you do startx it is NOT working, right?
[22:56] <picketfence> Is it not possible to put a laptop to sleep with Kubuntu?
[22:57] <FabParma> How to make changes in the "system setting" (control panel like). Thanks
[22:58] <yoritomo> i tryed to use themefisto__ startx give me a high resolution grey screen with a little cross as mouse pointer
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> FabParma- it should ask for your password if you change anything that requires root privileges
[22:58] <Theriex> awesome support in here, really
[22:59] <FabParma> Dragnslcr: no botton to elevate permission or insert password. it is normal?
[23:00] <etfb> I want my laptop to work with a screen resolution of 1280x800, because that's its default.  I don't want to use the proprietary ATI driver, because it's broken and stupid.  What are my options?
[23:00] <FabParma> Dragnslcr: have i to launch  "system setting" by console?
[23:01] <FabParma> how to get full access in  "system setting"
[23:01] <yoritomo> mefisto__ anyway when i try an apt-get , not working looks like no more connection
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:04] <yoritomo> sorry i am under windows, when i reboot on ubuntu, no internet connection then it can't do anything
[23:04] <yoritomo> but if necessary i can get the log
[23:04] <FabParma> i need to change setting in  "system setting", but i can read it only. No way to modificy
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> then we can guess the output
[23:05] <Theriex> Can anybody tell me where I can access Kubuntu's automount configuration/options???
[23:05] <etfb> I just tried dpkg-reconfigure and all it did was set up the keyboard.  WTF?  How do I reconfigure my video???
[23:05] <mefisto__> FabParma: what setting do you want to change?
[23:05] <Theriex> theres nothing under system setting sofr automount
[23:06] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip can you describe me waht to do , how to copy it in a file under terminal?
[23:06] <FabParma> mefisto__: login
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you need to get web access sorted in the system
[23:06] <FabParma> login screen
[23:07] <yoritomo> what do you mean?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: check ifconfig for an ip address then check nslookup of web addresses and see if you can web browse to you routers ip. can you ping web based ips and web based names to see if dns is failing
[23:08] <mefisto__> FabParma: so when you go to Login Manager, it doesn't ask for your password?
[23:08] <FabParma> no
[23:08] <FabParma> no bottons
[23:09] <FabParma> nothing to elevate my level
[23:09] <Dragnslcr> FabParma- is your user a member of the admin group?
[23:09] <FabParma> Dragnslcr: no idea, i installed it as default
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you need to work out what you can and cant do
[23:09] <FabParma> i go to check
[23:10] <mefisto__> FabParma: alt-F2 and type: kdesudo kcmshell4 kdm
[23:10] <mefisto__> FabParma: does that work?
[23:10] <Theriex> Can anybody tell me where I can access Kubuntu's automount configuration/options?
[23:11] <yoritomo> i type ifconfig , i note the result, then i type nslookup followed by an ip ?
[23:12] <amgarchIn9> how do I disable transparency of the task panel in KDE 4.2? I would like to keep other eye candy tough
[23:13] <FabParma> mefisto__: i go to try right now, thanks
[23:14] <floh> Can somebody tell me whats wrong here. I entered "sudo mount /dev/sda1 Daten/". I got back following output "mount: unknown filesystem type „linux_raid_member“". /dev/sda1 is ntfs, why do I get "linux_raid_member"???
[23:14] <floh> fdisk -l /dev/sda tells me it's a "HPFS/NTFS" which is correct.
[23:14] <Theriex> you didn't specify a filesystem type
[23:15] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip i don't know how to use nslookup can you give me an exemple please ?
[23:15] <Theriex> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /Daten
[23:16] <dazjorz> Hey all
[23:16] <dazjorz> I need mysql embedded and qtscript-qt, but can't find them in the reps for Kubuntu Jaunty...
[23:16] <floh> Theriex: Sure this should work, but I want to fix the partition. :(
[23:16] <dazjorz> oh. just read the topic :)
[23:18] <Theriex> floh: i'm not sure what you are trying to do, but you need to specify the filesystem type if you are trying to mount the device
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> yoritomo- nslookup www.example.com
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: nslookup www.google.com
[23:19] <floh> Theriex: My problem is following. I can mount another NTFS-Partition (sdc1) without using "-t ntfs". With sda1 not. I think this is the cause, why sda1 doesn't appear in "location" in dolphin (kde4). :(
[23:19] <yoritomo> ah ok then i try this both things
[23:19] <Theriex> flog: is the device part of a raid?
[23:19] <FabParma> mefisto__:  i'm sorry, dont works
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> floh: use ntfs-3g
[23:20] <floh> Theriex: It *was* a part of software-raid.
[23:20] <yoritomo> how may i save the text on it ? should i use wim and how?
[23:20] <Theriex> ya try the 3g
[23:20] <yoritomo> vim
[23:20] <floh> ntfs-3g is already installed.
[23:21] <Theriex> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /Daten
[23:21] <floh> Theriex: Sure... but I want to put sda1 into "locations" of dolphin.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> floh: instead of -t ntfs  use -t ntfs-3g
[23:22] <Theriex> it won't show up unless its mounted afaik
[23:22] <Theriex> i could be wrong
[23:22] <floh> Theriex: WinXP (=sdb1) is showing in Dolphin even if it's not mounted.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> floh: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000
[23:23] <floh> If I click on it, a dialog appears, where I have to enter sudo-password for mounting.
[23:23] <yoritomo> Dragnslcr ActionParsnip how may i save my messages on text mode ?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you can use >> to output to a text file
[23:24] <floh> ActionParsnip: This would add sda1 into "locations" of Dolphin?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: e.g.  nslookup www.google.com >> ~/output.txt
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> Or just select what you want and use copy/paste
[23:24] <yoritomo> yes but how ? i don't know how to use vi and wim
[23:24] <floh> I don't mean in browse-window, but in the left tab. Here it's called "Orte" (=Locations).
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> floh: it would mount it to /media/sda1 which you can then drag to places
[23:25] <yoritomo> ha using >> ?
[23:25] <yoritomo> i come back soon thanks i will give you these  texts
[23:26] <mefisto__> FabParma: does the login manager window appear?
[23:26] <floh> ActionParsnip: Yes, then a folder appears in "Places". But it wont mount if I click on sda1 in "Places". :(
[23:26] <Theriex> floh: what happens when you click on it?
[23:26] <KDesk> hi
[23:26] <raccoon> hi there can someone tell me what's the path of the linux source?
[23:26] <|PaperTiger|> I managed to delete my task bar, how do I get it back?
[23:26] <floh> Theriex: An empty folder is opened. :(
[23:27] <floh> Instead of prompting for sudo-password.
[23:27] <lepricon> /usr/src
[23:27] <raccoon> thx
[23:27] <floh> Theriex: Do you think the MBR is broken so "autodetect" fails?
[23:27] <KDesk> I am using quassel, but I have a small problem, how can I delete the old log in the chat window?
[23:28] <Theriex> floh: does it show up in mtab?
[23:28] <floh> "/dev/sdc1 /media/WinXP fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0"
[23:28] <floh> This is sdc1 which works. sda1 is not in mtab.
[23:29] <Theriex> ok so it still isn't mounting
[23:29] <floh> Theriex: right.
[23:29] <floh> Theriex: sdc1 is mounted by dolphin (after clicking on WinXP (=sdc1)).
[23:29] <Theriex> floh: is this going to be permanently mounted?
[23:29] <Theriex> floh: or just on the fly?
[23:30] <floh> Theriex: No, if I boot my PC. It's not mounted. It's mounted on the fly (by dolphin).
[23:30] <Theriex> floh: could always put an entry in fstab so its mounted at boot
[23:30] <Theriex> floh: unless you don't want it that way
[23:30] <floh> If I would try to access WinXP with terminal it won't be mounted. With Dolphin it'll be mounted.
[23:31] <floh> Theriex: I don't like this way. I would prefer: "Mount only if needed".
[23:31] <floh> Theriex: But thank you.
[23:31] <Theriex> floh: ok i understand
[23:31] <Theriex> floh: i've never actually tried doing it on the fly through dolphin...
[23:32] <floh> Theriex: Maybe I have to try fixmbr sda, maybe master boot record is broken (by software-raid) since the harddisk was used as a part of raid1 in the past.
[23:32] <Theriex> floh: hold on gonna give a try
[23:32] <floh> Theriex: No problem. Thank you very much. @ActionParsnip, you too. :)
[23:33] <floh> Theriex: What do you mean?
[23:33] <Theriex> mounting through dolphin
[23:34] <vladi> ciao a tutti. ho un problema molto fastidioso con kubuntu. L'ho installato su mac mini e il monitor ogni circa 5 secondi si spegne per mezzo secondo, questo continuamente tipo intermittenza. cosa posso fare?
[23:35] <floh> Theriex: I found a posting in internet. Somebody told this would help: "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda"
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !it | vladi
[23:37] <Theriex> floh: sorry my desktop is crashing now :(
[23:37] <floh> Theriex: No problem.
[23:38] <megomeg> HI
[23:38] <cuznt> !backup
[23:38] <vladi> thank's, sorry.
[23:38] <cuznt> !cloning
[23:39] <Theriex> floh: what version of kubuntu r u running just out of curiosity?
[23:40] <twisted_g> is anyone here an aptitude guru, and if so, how'd you become one? anyone have a good aptitude resource?
[23:40] <floh> Theriex: I found a posting in internet. Somebody told this would help: "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/XXXXXXX"
[23:40] <|PaperTiger|> !kde
[23:40] <|PaperTiger|> !kde4
[23:40] <floh> Theriex: Kubuntu 8.10
[23:40] <twisted_g> !desktop
[23:40] <yoritomo> re
[23:40] <megomeg> AFTER THE UPDATE TO KDE 4.2.2 ON JAUNTY MY CPU GO "CRAZY" BY PLASMA PROCESS IS THERE SOLUTION?
[23:41] <megomeg> sorry for the stamp"
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | megomeg
[23:41] <Theriex> floh: never used that command, looks like something for raid...
[23:41] <floh> Theriex: Sure it has somewhat with raid since somewhat from raid is left on sda respective sda1. :(
[23:42] <floh> Theriex: As I said sda1 was used for software-raid.
[23:42] <megomeg> tnx very kind :D
[23:42] <Theriex> floh: are you trying to access data on that drive?
[23:43] <floh> Theriex: With WinXP it works fine. Here in Linux it works fine too (if I mount it manually with "-t ntfs").
[23:43] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip Drangnslcr http://pastebin.com/d726f2e02 http://pastebin.com/d4b5af43d
[23:43] <Theriex> floh: ok so its not an mbr problem then
[23:43] <floh> Theriex: Only "autodetection" is not working since it thinks its a software-raid. :(
[23:43] <yoritomo> the result of lookup and ifconfig
[23:44] <Theriex> floh: i can't even figure out how dolphin automounts drives...  i unmounted one of mine and can't mount it through dolphin, can't even get in in under places
[23:44] <Theriex> floh i've always used fstab
[23:44] <yoritomo> Dragnslcr sorry
[23:44] <floh> Theriex: I'm backing up the content of sda1, then I'll try with mdadm --zero-superblock.
[23:44] <yoritomo> the links above
[23:44] <floh> Theriex: If this won't help, I'll reformat it with mkfs.ntfs.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: looks like you have an ip, thats a good sign
[23:45] <floh> Theriex: But thank you. :)
[23:45] <Theriex> floh: np, sorry i couldn't help more
[23:45] <floh> Theriex: It's ok. :) Thank for trying to help. :)
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: and the name is resolving right
[23:47] <Theriex> Anybody able to tell me where I can configure automounting options?
[23:47] <yoritomo> yes i don't know why it does not want to update
[23:47] <mefisto__> floh: I'm also wondering how dolphin mounts from "places". what is the location (right-click the button in places, edit)?
[23:47] <joshjtl> is there a kde 4 sound recorder?
[23:48] <floh> mefisto__: The WinXP-Partition was already there. I didn't do anythin. It seems it automatically added while booting(?) respective login(?).
[23:48] <floh> mefisto__: I already tried with 'grep -r WinXP .kde4' same in /etc/. But nothing found.
[23:49] <mefisto__> floh: ok, if you right-click the WinXP button in places, and "edit WinXP" what is in the "location" field?
[23:49] <floh> mefisto__: I believe it autodetect ntfs partitions.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: can you web browse ok?
[23:50] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip on console mode ?
[23:50] <floh> mefisto__: If I right-click, there is only ""WinXP" ausblenden" (not sure how ausblenden is called in English).
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: and other web based stuff, anything
[23:50] <Theriex> floh: what if you put an entry in fstab for the device with noauto option
[23:50] <floh> mefisto__: If WinXP is mounted, then there is 2nd choice which I can umount it.
[23:50] <Theriex> floh: then it doesn't mount automatically, should show up in dolphin and only mount when you click on it??
[23:51] <floh> Theriex: right. It mount if I click on WinXP in "Places".
[23:51] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip i will make some aptget trial and submit the results ok ?
[23:51] <Theriex> floh: nod i'm curious if the WinXP device is in fstab with noauto set aswell
[23:51] <floh> Theriex: in /media/ there wasn't WinXP-Folder before mounting. After mounting it appears automatically.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: can you web browse and stuff too?
[23:51] <floh> There is no such entry in fstab.
[23:51] <Theriex> really
[23:51] <floh> Theriex: Really.
[23:51] <Theriex> hrmm ok, just a thought :)
[23:52] <yoritomo> how to do that ?
[23:52] <floh> Theriex: I already looked into it, because I wanted to add sda1. But there is nothing about WinXP nor sdb1 in fstab.
[23:52] <Theriex> floh: thats curious, i thought you always had to have the floder pre made
[23:52] <floh> Theriex: I already tried to add sda1 into fstab, but it still doesn't appears in "Places".
[23:53] <floh> Theriex: floder?
[23:53] <Theriex> folder
[23:53] <floh> Theriex: lol. :)
[23:53] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip how can i browse on console mode ?
[23:54] <floh> Theriex: The folder /media/WinXP appears first, if I clicked on "WinXP" in "Places" and entered sudo-password.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: w3m
[23:54] <floh> Theriex: If I rightclick on "WinXP" and press on "Umount", then /media/WinXP disappears. This is useful for me.
[23:54] <floh> Theriex: Do you have NTFS-Partition?
[23:55] <Theriex> floh: yes i have a Win-XP as well
[23:55] <joshjtl> is there a kde 4 sound recorder anyone?
[23:55] <floh> Theriex: And these Partition is not in "Places" right?
[23:55] <Theriex> yes it is
[23:56] <floh> Theriex: Can you mount these partition without '-t ntfs'?
[23:56] <Theriex> floh: most likely since it is defined in my fstab
[23:56] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip w3m www.google.com ?
[23:56] <floh> Theriex: Just 'mount /dev/sdXY /media/mountpoint"
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: indeed
[23:56] <floh> Theriex: Ok... would it work if you commented out the line in fstab?
[23:57] <Theriex> let me try
[23:57] <floh> Theriex: Ok.
[23:57] <joshjtl> argh
[23:57] <yoritomo> ok let me try i will come soon
[23:57]  * cale_ kikoo
[23:59] <Theriex> floh: yes and no
[23:59] <floh> Theriex: What yes what no?
[23:59] <Theriex> floh: i can as long as the directory that I am mounting to exists
[23:59] <floh> Theriex: You mean the directory as mountpoint?