| IsmailBhai | hi | 05:39 |
|---|---|---|
| thorwil | kwwii: i can now confirm that watching "Artwork" and "Artwork/.*" works. but no notifications on newly created pages, afaics | 12:00 |
| kwwii | thorwil: right, that is what I expected | 12:34 |
| thorwil | kwwii: just added a point on that lack to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MinorWikiTweaks | 12:36 |
| kwwii | nice | 12:37 |
| Cimi | kwwii, I have updated the engine | 12:38 |
| thorwil | if Matthew offers a finger, we should ask for the hand! ;) | 12:39 |
| thorwil | Cimi: what's up with updating the engine again and again? it's like you do that on purpose! | 12:40 |
| Cimi | thorwil, ? | 12:41 |
| thorwil | nevermind :) | 12:41 |
| Cimi | i haven't updated the engine | 12:41 |
| SiDi | Hello | 12:41 |
| Cimi | no release yet | 12:41 |
| Cimi | just update the svn for testing | 12:41 |
| thorwil | hi SiDi | 12:41 |
| Cimi | so kwwii could test the new version | 12:41 |
| kwwii | Cimi: dude, I just got the old one included yesterday | 12:44 |
| Cimi | °_° | 12:44 |
| kwwii | I think it is too late | 12:44 |
| Cimi | the old one is bugged | 12:44 |
| kwwii | today is the freeze for next week | 12:44 |
| Cimi | look at synaptic | 12:44 |
| Cimi | do you want a release today? | 12:45 |
| * thorwil waves | 12:47 | |
| kwwii | no, what I want is to not be the one always bugging devs with code that I have no idea about | 12:47 |
| _MMA_ | yo yo | 12:47 |
| kwwii | I don't like having to go and promise that some code works which I have no idea about | 12:48 |
| Cimi | why you did not ask me? | 12:48 |
| kwwii | what should I ask you? | 12:48 |
| Cimi | why you patch application and don't ask me? | 12:48 |
| Cimi | hey, is the code ready? could you make a release? | 12:48 |
| kwwii | ??? what application? | 12:48 |
| Cimi | that is enough | 12:48 |
| Cimi | murrine? | 12:48 |
| Cimi | application <-> libray | 12:48 |
| kwwii | I didn't touch anything | 12:49 |
| Cimi | *library | 12:49 |
| Cimi | who patched the engine then? | 12:49 |
| kwwii | no idea, I didn't know that it was patched | 12:49 |
| Cimi | me too | 12:49 |
| kwwii | my whole point is that I don't know enough about what is going on inside murrine to be the one responsible for it :) | 12:50 |
| Cimi | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/gtk2-engines-murrine/gtk2-engines-murrine_0.90.2-0ubuntu2/changelog | 12:50 |
| kwwii | what was patched? | 12:50 |
| kwwii | I don't see any patch there | 12:50 |
| kwwii | all I see is the latest release of the svn code from yesterday | 12:51 |
| Cimi | yeah | 12:51 |
| Cimi | that means they grabbed a patch and patched the engine from the svn | 12:51 |
| Cimi | anyway could you test the latest svn so to have a feedback? | 12:52 |
| Cimi | i want to make a release for other distro then | 12:52 |
| kwwii | I do not see any patch | 12:52 |
| kwwii | hrm, so how do i get something included in universe..... | 13:23 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Pop in #ubuntu-motu. | 13:28 |
| _MMA_ | It's a process though. | 13:28 |
| _MMA_ | But those guys can help. | 13:29 |
| _MMA_ | knome: So what's going on with the Xubuntu art? I haven't really seen any of that "cross-disrto communication" from ya. :) | 13:31 |
| Cimi | kwwii, did you tested the new svn? I just want your feedbeck before releaseing 0.90.3 | 14:21 |
| kwwii | Cimi: to be honest, no | 14:30 |
| Cimi | could you do it? | 14:30 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I'll build it now | 14:30 |
| Cimi | ok thank you | 14:30 |
| kwwii | ok, what should I be looking for? | 14:32 |
| _MMA_ | "uglyness" | 14:32 |
| kwwii | hrm, I just noticed that the keyboard highlight seems to have one pixel more on the left (or top on vertical elements) than on the right/bottom | 14:33 |
| * _MMA_ is teaching his son to play Super Mario Bros. | 14:33 | |
| kwwii | what is a good app to test the tree view in? | 14:33 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Nautilus's sidebar maybe? | 14:34 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: yeah, other than that? | 14:34 |
| _MMA_ | Um... gconf-editor or Exaile | 14:35 |
| Cimi | just arrows for the selected item | 14:36 |
| Cimi | hold down "ctrl" and move arrows to see the focus on unselected items | 14:36 |
| Cimi | now I'm using the classic dots for the selected item, until we find out a better solution | 14:37 |
| kwwii | seems good to me | 14:38 |
| kwwii | nothing stands out, but once a few thousand people stare at it there might be more comments | 14:39 |
| Cimi | kwwii, you like the dots? | 14:39 |
| _MMA_ | Screenshot? :) | 14:39 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I don't understand which ones you mean :) | 14:40 |
| kwwii | 15:36 < Cimi> hold down "ctrl" and move arrows to see the focus on unselected items | 14:40 |
| kwwii | which arrows? | 14:41 |
| Cimi | keys? | 14:41 |
| Cimi | select a treeview item | 14:41 |
| kwwii | ahhhh | 14:41 |
| kwwii | now I get it | 14:41 |
| kwwii | seems clear to me | 14:41 |
| Cimi | yeah | 14:41 |
| Cimi | the thing I don't like is the dots on the selected item | 14:42 |
| kwwii | I am gonna test this on my other laptop, brb | 14:42 |
| Cimi | though I don't have other solution | 14:42 |
| kwwii | hrm, which dots do you mean...I still don't see dots | 14:48 |
| Cimi | kwwii, maybe you did not update the engine | 14:48 |
| kwwii | well, I did a make install :p | 14:48 |
| Cimi | did you restarted nautilus? | 14:49 |
| kwwii | libtool: install: /usr/bin/install -c .libs/libmurrine.so /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libmurrine.so | 14:50 |
| kwwii | etc | 14:50 |
| Cimi | <Cimi> did you restarted nautilus? | 14:50 |
| kwwii | yes, I have logged out and back in | 14:50 |
| Cimi | ok | 14:50 |
| kwwii | kwwii@ballard:~/svn/murrine-trunk$ svn update | 14:50 |
| Cimi | when you select a listview | 14:50 |
| kwwii | At revision 172. | 14:50 |
| Cimi | and move arrows | 14:50 |
| Cimi | you will get the focus | 14:51 |
| kwwii | I see the rubber-band kinda thing | 14:51 |
| kwwii | the line with a fill | 14:51 |
| kwwii | line around a box | 14:51 |
| Cimi | if you hold the control keys | 14:51 |
| kwwii | so in gconf-editor, I hold control and arrow down | 14:51 |
| Cimi | if you don't hold ctrl | 14:51 |
| kwwii | and the keyboard focus moves | 14:51 |
| Cimi | you just move the selected item | 14:52 |
| kwwii | ahhhhh | 14:52 |
| kwwii | my screen is so big I didn't notice the dots | 14:52 |
| kwwii | :p | 14:52 |
| Cimi | lol | 14:52 |
| kwwii | now I see it | 14:52 |
| Cimi | they don't rock | 14:52 |
| kwwii | no, not really | 14:52 |
| Cimi | but I don't have other solutions | 14:52 |
| kwwii | if I noticed them more I wouldn't like them | 14:52 |
| Cimi | if you have other solutions... here I am | 14:53 |
| kwwii | why not the same thing as the keyboard focus highlight only darker? | 14:53 |
| kwwii | ie. instead of dots use a very slightly different line | 14:53 |
| kwwii | and round the box, give it a pixel or two of padding | 14:53 |
| Cimi | because the focus is placed over the text | 14:53 |
| Cimi | so I can't place a filled element | 14:54 |
| kwwii | ahhh, now I get it...it is not the same as when you use your mouse | 14:54 |
| Cimi | so I will have just a line | 14:54 |
| kwwii | boah, this is very complex | 14:54 |
| kwwii | what if the line was a slightly different hue....let me mock something up | 14:55 |
| Cimi | hue? | 14:56 |
| Cimi | it seems difficult | 14:57 |
| Cimi | and it won't be consistent | 14:57 |
| kwwii | yeah, it doesn't work | 14:59 |
| kwwii | and making it slightly darker or lighter than the mouse selection version is crap too | 15:00 |
| kwwii | it doesn't look different enough | 15:00 |
| kwwii | what if the dots were longer | 15:00 |
| Cimi | LONGER = ? | 15:00 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/murrine_mock.png | 15:02 |
| kwwii | I just put a line on top of the existing screenshot, so it is not perfect but you get the idea | 15:03 |
| kwwii | and the line is way too dark, etc | 15:04 |
| kwwii | but the point is that it looks better than dots and different than a rubber band | 15:04 |
| kwwii | :-) | 15:04 |
| kwwii | longer dots = dashes, I guess | 15:05 |
| Cimi | ok | 15:10 |
| Cimi | though it is just the same, maybe one darker line is better | 15:10 |
| Cimi | kwwii, GtkWidget::focus-line-pattern = "\002\002" | 15:20 |
| kwwii | Cimi: I think that looks pretty good | 15:31 |
| kwwii | might need a bit of tweaking but it is better than using a solid line, which is the same as the mouse | 15:32 |
| kwwii | unless you can get the two to look different enough | 15:32 |
| Cimi | kwwii, time for releasing 0.90.3? | 15:49 |
| kwwii | Cimi: yeah, looks good to me...i like 001/005 better though :p | 15:52 |
| Cimi | yeah | 15:57 |
| Cimi | nice too | 15:58 |
| Cimi | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/208474/Icons.jpg | 16:07 |
| Cimi | wow cool! | 16:07 |
| Cimi | new gnome icons for 2.28 | 16:07 |
| kwwii | wow | 16:10 |
| Cimi | coming in the svn soon | 16:11 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Look at the player window. (upper left) | 16:11 |
| _MMA_ | Kinda odd some of them cast 2 shadows. Nice though. | 16:13 |
| kwwii | lol, jono is finaly going to be famous | 16:14 |
| SiDi | Some of these so look like Breathe's Oo | 16:14 |
| Cimi | Your tarball will appear in the following location on ftp.gnome.org: | 16:14 |
| Cimi | http://download.gnome.org/sources/murrine/0.90/ | 16:14 |
| Cimi | cool, new release is coming | 16:14 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: ;) | 16:14 |
| * kwwii heads out to the store...bbl | 16:15 | |
| _MMA_ | SiDi: They will all have a similar feel because of the res. I think these are a little softer style. | 16:15 |
| Superdweeb | kwwii, I'm upping the bounty to 20 bucks on the gnome-panel-handle transparency issue. | 17:25 |
| Cimi | Superdweeb, which handle? screenshot pls | 17:26 |
| Superdweeb | cimi. | 17:26 |
| Superdweeb | CIMI> | 17:26 |
| Superdweeb | I'll get you a link. | 17:26 |
| Superdweeb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/46659 | 17:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 46659 in gnome-panel "Buttons for hiding needs to be transparent" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 17:27 |
| Superdweeb | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=71794&action=view << do this and get it into the ubuntu repo by koala for 20 bucks. | 17:27 |
| Superdweeb | get it into jaunty for 40 bucks. | 17:27 |
| Cimi | it doesn't seem to be easy to fix | 17:31 |
| Superdweeb | What's so hard about it? | 17:31 |
| Cimi | non-composite compatibility | 17:31 |
| Superdweeb | um, then why is the rest of the panel transparent? | 17:31 |
| Cimi | because it is using a background pixmap | 17:31 |
| Superdweeb | so map the handles to a background pixmap. | 17:32 |
| Cimi | taken from the screen | 17:32 |
| Superdweeb | Same. | 17:32 |
| Superdweeb | ALSO, screw the handles with the arrow buttons, I'm more concerned with the stubs. | 17:32 |
| Cimi | I'm studying now anyway | 17:33 |
| Cimi | will take a look later | 17:33 |
| Superdweeb | eh. | 17:33 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Should I add that " GtkScale::trough-side-details = 1" to Studio's theme also? | 17:36 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, of course | 17:36 |
| Cimi | that change is required | 17:36 |
| Cimi | or you won't get the fill | 17:37 |
| _MMA_ | Oh wait. I set that to 0 for some reason. Maybe I did it by design. I gotta look. | 17:39 |
| kwwii | Superdweeb: it should be ok once the new human theme package without the panel bg setting comes through the update | 17:42 |
| Superdweeb | o man that would be super dooper. | 17:42 |
| kwwii | Superdweeb: you can test it yourself by removing the pixmap which is set in the gtkrc | 17:44 |
| Superdweeb | I'll wait, thanks, I already went in and screwed up half my themes by hacking on gtkrc. | 17:44 |
| Superdweeb | I'm so stupid. | 17:45 |
| kwwii | :p | 17:45 |
| kwwii | no worries | 17:45 |
| Superdweeb | I made a new-wave variate called terl-wave and I tried to edit the panel pics, because they were included in that theme, but the gtkrc specifies so many colors for the panel that it's impossible to un-theme it. | 17:45 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: So you just removed the background image? | 17:46 |
| Superdweeb | And I must say, the new wave theme is delicious, I really say it should become the standard. It's totally newish looking, like the mac os x theme or vista theme. | 17:47 |
| thorwil | 0.o http://stas.nerd.ro/stuff/ubuntu-md.png | 17:47 |
| Superdweeb | that rabbit is NUTS man. | 17:48 |
| * thorwil hopes Mads will jump in | 17:48 | |
| thorwil | yeah, must be rabies | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Personally, if the theme is meant to not be used with a transparent panel then it's not a bug. I'm sure the Studio theme would see this issue as well. | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: And I hope you didn't do something crazy like try to set the panle bg in gconf or something. | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | *panel | 17:50 |
| thorwil | kwwii: how do you think of adding a call for release party posters into the schedule for karmic? with time enough to hope for some good entries and then making them public | 17:53 |
| * thorwil -> dinner | 18:00 | |
| kwwii | _MMA_: yeah, I removed the panel pic | 18:12 |
| kwwii | it looked like crap on a bigger panel anyway | 18:12 |
| kwwii | the panel should be forked | 18:12 |
| kwwii | and simply replaced | 18:12 |
| kwwii | it is soooo nasty | 18:12 |
| kwwii | thorwil: sounds like stuff that could be coordinated with the marketing team | 18:13 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I'm sure we'll have something worse for GNOME 3 | 18:13 |
| Superdweeb | I'm dreading it. | 18:13 |
| kwwii | hehe | 18:13 |
| Superdweeb | I've been looking at the gnome blogs, and some of the stuff they are proposing seems... well.. | 18:14 |
| Superdweeb | mono. | 18:14 |
| Superdweeb | portable to windows. | 18:14 |
| Superdweeb | kwwii, do you know anything about plymouth working on older video cards? | 18:15 |
| _MMA_ | Superdweeb: Nothing to do with my issues. Which go into the aesthetic designs (or lack there of) in GNOME. | 18:15 |
| Superdweeb | well, I've been way happier with gnome 2.24 then I was with kde 4.0. | 18:16 |
| starsunflower | so that mono thing is serious? I thought it was an april fools day article | 18:16 |
| Superdweeb | I don't think so. | 18:16 |
| Superdweeb | I'm seeing a lot of mono stuff pop up in the repo for automatic install. | 18:17 |
| Superdweeb | I fiddled with monodevelop and I think it's going to take off like a rocket. | 18:17 |
| starsunflower | wow | 18:17 |
| Superdweeb | the problem is, as a microsoftian coder, I've worked with c#, and frankly, I'm not that impressed with it. | 18:17 |
| starsunflower | oic | 18:18 |
| Superdweeb | It's all virtual machine based, with realtime compile to assembly. | 18:18 |
| starsunflower | i wonder how hard it would be to get a folder view that displays images inside the folders like xp | 18:18 |
| starsunflower | with the default icon set, the .txt files show "text" in this manner | 18:19 |
| starsunflower | i don't know if i'm explaining it correctly | 18:19 |
| Superdweeb | running recursive for loops under c++ is 1000% faster than it is in c#, for example for X{for Y{ for Z {for Q=1, Q<100,Q++{ add 1 to counter;}}}}} | 18:19 |
| Superdweeb | well starsunflower, on my system the icons for various entries show their contents. | 18:20 |
| Superdweeb | If you mean folder background representative of contents | 18:20 |
| Superdweeb | it would need to be able to decide what the contents are, or else use a generic backgroud | 18:20 |
| Superdweeb | but I wouldn't say no to some stenciled patterns around the inside bottom corners. | 18:21 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Like setting an image to "folder" and outside of that folder shows the image? | 18:21 |
| starsunflower | so is this a new feature? I'm running 8.04 | 18:21 |
| starsunflower | the folder view itself displays the content, like say the first image | 18:21 |
| starsunflower | like view>thumbnails in xp | 18:21 |
| Superdweeb | by folder view do you mean simply looking at the icon for the folder | 18:21 |
| starsunflower | yes | 18:22 |
| starsunflower | the icons for text documents display the first snippet of text in that document | 18:22 |
| Superdweeb | like when you choose PICTURES for the folder type and it shows the pictures on the folder icon | 18:22 |
| starsunflower | is that an option in 8.10? | 18:22 |
| Superdweeb | I don't think that's up our line. | 18:22 |
| starsunflower | sweeeet!!!! | 18:23 |
| Superdweeb | No, 9.04, which is what I'm using, does not have that. | 18:23 |
| Superdweeb | We still use emblems. | 18:23 |
| starsunflower | i keep one machine with the dark side, just for viewing large folders in this way | 18:23 |
| starsunflower | to save my wrists from carpel tunnel | 18:23 |
| starsunflower | so i don't have to drill down | 18:23 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Seeing the contents of a folder, no. Setting a image for that folder to use, yes. | 18:23 |
| Superdweeb | by large folders you mean large folders full of folders which are full of contents.. | 18:24 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:24 |
| starsunflower | exactly | 18:24 |
| Superdweeb | and why do we use the word folders | 18:24 |
| starsunflower | say 1 folder with 100 other folders containing images | 18:24 |
| Superdweeb | we should rename folders to boxes. | 18:24 |
| Superdweeb | I keep all my paperwork in boxes under my bed. | 18:24 |
| starsunflower | the images are a screenshot of what the folder contains | 18:24 |
| starsunflower | say if someone was workingon icon sets, and had a screenshot of an icon set, and had it all broken down by folder pointing to the name of the set... | 18:25 |
| starsunflower | that kind of thing | 18:25 |
| Superdweeb | that would be cool, but I'm afraid you have to code it, because this will require three things | 18:25 |
| Superdweeb | this will require nautilus to be able to display pictures as folder icons automatically | 18:25 |
| Superdweeb | it will require nautilus to be able to capture snapshots of the folder contents automatically | 18:25 |
| Superdweeb | and it will require someone to fix the bugs caused by the first two changes. | 18:26 |
| starsunflower | i'm not a developer but would like to learn....i'm wondering if the code used for the text file view would be in any way reusable | 18:26 |
| Superdweeb | Probably not. | 18:26 |
| * _MMA_ has a script to set covers as folder images for his music. | 18:27 | |
| starsunflower | the default ubuntu icon set displays a snippet of the text from the doc | 18:27 |
| Superdweeb | mma. | 18:27 |
| Superdweeb | give him the script. | 18:27 |
| Superdweeb | quietly, BEFORE the penguin mafia find out. | 18:27 |
| starsunflower | _MMA_ I don't know what he means...but figured I'd mention it | 18:29 |
| starsunflower | would be a cool feature for sure | 18:29 |
| _MMA_ | I don't know either. | 18:29 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:29 |
| starsunflower | well worth a mention | 18:29 |
| starsunflower | :D | 18:29 |
| starsunflower | who's the penguin mafia? lol!! | 18:30 |
| _MMA_ | I'm personally happy with the thumbnailing as is. Which is IMO miles better than MS. The folder thing, meh. Not for me. I can see others liking it though. | 18:30 |
| starsunflower | well, i have a lot of files, and my wrist starts to hurt..... | 18:30 |
| starsunflower | if i have to drill down to every single file | 18:31 |
| starsunflower | easier to just view 100 folders with a picture preview | 18:31 |
| starsunflower | and then i have multiple folders set up in that way, with many files | 18:31 |
| starsunflower | so.... | 18:31 |
| starsunflower | ok, well, thx! | 18:32 |
| starsunflower | :D | 18:32 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: I'm sure something could be scripted to do what you want. | 18:32 |
| _MMA_ | But it would be needed to be manually run every time you wanted them to refresh. | 18:33 |
| starsunflower | in view options? | 18:33 |
| _MMA_ | Well it would be much like my script for setting album covers as images for folders. | 18:34 |
| _MMA_ | But... | 18:34 |
| _MMA_ | It would grab, say, 4 images to stitch together. | 18:34 |
| starsunflower | it wouldn't have to do that though...even if it just grabbed the first one | 18:35 |
| _MMA_ | Hmm... | 18:35 |
| _MMA_ | Lemmie look over my script. | 18:35 |
| starsunflower | I think that would be a really hot feature for new releases | 18:39 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: You comfortable running scripts? | 18:44 |
| starsunflower | i could try | 18:45 |
| starsunflower | :D | 18:45 |
| starsunflower | am willing to | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. I need a little info 1st. | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | Are your images named a particular way? | 18:45 |
| starsunflower | lets see... | 18:45 |
| _MMA_ | I assume they are all *.jpg? | 18:46 |
| starsunflower | most of them are .jpg | 18:46 |
| starsunflower | there may be some .png from screenshots | 18:46 |
| _MMA_ | Its that * I'm curious about. | 18:46 |
| starsunflower | oh...I don't see a * | 18:47 |
| starsunflower | text or numbers for file name | 18:47 |
| _MMA_ | Sorry. * means a wildcard. | 18:47 |
| starsunflower | oh, ok | 18:47 |
| _MMA_ | Like, the script would look for *.jpg. Looking at anything really with that extention. | 18:48 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:48 |
| _MMA_ | But with multiple images in there, I don't know how it would work. Well, we can test. Gimmie a min. | 18:48 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:48 |
| starsunflower | i think most of them have one image | 18:49 |
| starsunflower | yeah, they do | 18:49 |
| thorwil | kwwii: sure. it's dumb that marketing and artwork don't speak with each other. though i have to admit i don't quite see why marketing exists ;) | 18:50 |
| _MMA_ | Now note: This script will show the image inside as the folder. *Not* on top of the folder. So, it could appear to some as an actual file. | 18:50 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:50 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Gimmie a min. Im just trying to see where the settings for this went so you can reverse the process if you wish. | 18:54 |
| starsunflower | k | 18:54 |
| kwwii | to be honest, I am not sure how much marketing is done outside of the canonical marketing people these days | 18:58 |
| thorwil | kwwii: that's my point, kinda | 18:59 |
| Superdweeb | if you'll ship me cd's and t-shirts, I'll get a table and set it up at the job fair at my local college. | 18:59 |
| Superdweeb | :-P | 18:59 |
| thorwil | super, dweeb | 18:59 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Just a note: This is where my script is derived from: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486359 | 19:00 |
| kwwii | :) | 19:00 |
| Superdweeb | I don't think you'll find more than 10 ubuntu users in my entire state. | 19:01 |
| SiDi | How many humans at all are there in your state, Superdweeb ? | 19:01 |
| Superdweeb | People around here rely on windows about as much as they do on the tendancies of democratic politicians, which is to say, well, they may have accidentally voted for mcain, but everything else was donkey kong 3. | 19:01 |
| kwwii | superdweebania | 19:02 |
| SiDi | (democratic politicians sounds so antinomic :P) | 19:02 |
| starsunflower | Same goes in my state | 19:03 |
| Superdweeb | well, they've voted ike skelton for senator here for 30 years | 19:03 |
| Superdweeb | The head of IT at my college is a redhat enthusiast, but I'm afraid ADOBE CS4, AUTOCAD, VS STUDIO 2008, MICROFOCUS COBOL .NET, and a crapload more programs totally unrelated to my degree that I will never mention or use simply don't work in wine. | 19:05 |
| Superdweeb | not to mention the massive amount of prentice hall testing software written in activex/java. | 19:05 |
| _MMA_ | Use what works for you. What's best for the job. Some things simply have no replacement. | 19:06 |
| Superdweeb | right. | 19:06 |
| starsunflower | my partner is in the same boat...has to use VS for work--to pay the bills | 19:07 |
| SiDi | Superdweeb: maybe if he can explain whoever is in charge of paying for the software how many million dollars they'd save each year but using free software, that'd change :p | 19:07 |
| thorwil | don't listen to him. if there's no free software tool to do it, it is like it can't be done at all! if you have no access to gnu/food, dont eat!! | 19:07 |
| SiDi | it's been quite efficient for the french authorities. the army and national assembly are using ubuntu, now :o | 19:08 |
| Superdweeb | actually, free software, in some circumstances, is a load of crap. | 19:08 |
| starsunflower | is ruby on rails free? | 19:08 |
| thorwil | no, it's on rails | 19:09 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Ok ready? | 19:09 |
| starsunflower | yes | 19:09 |
| Superdweeb | When you adopt gnome or kde design practices, for instance, some ways you have to learn the backtrack: developers who have been working with the code for years know things you don't that are required to make your programs work. | 19:09 |
| _MMA_ | Open text editor and paste the info in this link there. (webpage->editor) | 19:09 |
| Superdweeb | With microsoft development you don't have to worry about the OS interacting correctly with your program, you just write it, publish it, and you are done. | 19:09 |
| _MMA_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/143621/ | 19:09 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Save as: folder_preview.py | 19:10 |
| starsunflower | do i use the parentheses? | 19:10 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Open that link above in a browser | 19:11 |
| SiDi | Superdweeb: i wish people who make games with visual c++ could hear that. They usually are so happy with the winsxs manifests :) | 19:11 |
| starsunflower | k, paste that in text editor and save as folder_preview.py | 19:12 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Copy the text from line 1 to 52. Simple copy->paste. | 19:12 |
| _MMA_ | Got that ^^^ | 19:13 |
| * _MMA_ waits. | 19:13 | |
| starsunflower | gedit dumped the text under the line numbers....just a sec... | 19:14 |
| starsunflower | list of line numbers...then text that goes with the lines in big paragraph at the bottom.... | 19:14 |
| _MMA_ | If you manually select the text on the webpage it doesn't select the #s. | 19:14 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: I have to go soon. | 19:16 |
| starsunflower | k | 19:16 |
| starsunflower | well thanks for the help | 19:16 |
| _MMA_ | You ready? | 19:16 |
| starsunflower | i will tinker with it | 19:16 |
| _MMA_ | This can really take 2 mins if you stay with me. | 19:16 |
| starsunflower | k | 19:17 |
| _MMA_ | I need more info that "k". Do you have the text saved? | 19:17 |
| SiDi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Desktop | 19:17 |
| SiDi | This palette isn't official, is it ? | 19:17 |
| starsunflower | k got it | 19:18 |
| starsunflower | text saved as folder_preview.py | 19:18 |
| thorwil | SiDi: not, it's not official. it is DSMatthews | 19:18 |
| starsunflower | no line numbers | 19:18 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Whats the root dir of the folders you want peviewed? | 19:18 |
| starsunflower | can I post forward slashes? | 19:20 |
| starsunflower | media/path | 19:20 |
| _MMA_ | Put a space before it | 19:20 |
| starsunflower | /media/path | 19:20 |
| _MMA_ | That's literally it? :) Mot /media/Pictures or something? | 19:20 |
| _MMA_ | *Not | 19:20 |
| starsunflower | yeah, I didn't put the whole path.... | 19:21 |
| Superdweeb | pht hptertjrepworewjtpwrje | 19:21 |
| starsunflower | i'm running a vm right now where this chat window is | 19:21 |
| Superdweeb | PUT THE WHOLE PATH | 19:21 |
| starsunflower | and don't have abilty to copy and paste the path | 19:21 |
| Superdweeb | you don't? | 19:21 |
| _MMA_ | Superdweeb: I got it. | 19:21 |
| starsunflower | and you have to go.... | 19:21 |
| Superdweeb | you know what the world needs? | 19:21 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Ok. Just means a bit more on you. 1 sec. | 19:21 |
| _MMA_ | Superdweeb: I got the situation. I don't need help. | 19:22 |
| Superdweeb | computers that can run multiple operating systems, symultaniously, at the same root level. | 19:22 |
| starsunflower | I have my notes open, lol | 19:22 |
| SiDi | Superdweeb: one OS with several terminals is enough :P | 19:23 |
| Superdweeb | um, I saw this super cool concept. | 19:23 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: Ok so assuming you saved the file in your home dir do: python folder_preview.py -R /media/path/to/root/dir | 19:23 |
| _MMA_ | (in a terminal that is) | 19:23 |
| Superdweeb | you booted the computer into a pre-boot area with icons like user accounts , except it was a OS switcher, and each os was fully booted up, like gdm sessions. | 19:24 |
| starsunflower | k | 19:25 |
| starsunflower | i think I could get help if I have probs | 19:25 |
| starsunflower | the path i don't get | 19:26 |
| starsunflower | /media/my path/then don't get to root dir | 19:26 |
| _MMA_ | Its the top-level dir containing the folders you want thumbnailed. | 19:26 |
| starsunflower | ok, so i just put in the path there | 19:26 |
| starsunflower | that's easy | 19:26 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: If there's spaces in the path "/quote/the/path" | 19:27 |
| starsunflower | i don't use spaces | 19:27 |
| starsunflower | everything either has a - or _ | 19:27 |
| starsunflower | for some reason i have done it that way for a long time | 19:28 |
| _MMA_ | So here's my command to set my album covers as folder images: python set_covers.py -R /media/Multimedia/Audio/FLAC/ | 19:28 |
| _MMA_ | That way, when I go into an artists folder, it shows the album as a folder. | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | do you have to run that script every time? | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | or it just defaults to that | 19:29 |
| _MMA_ | Yes. It's not automatic. | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | k, no prob | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | sweet... | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | thank you so much for your time... | 19:29 |
| starsunflower | :) | 19:29 |
| _MMA_ | starsunflower: To reverse this delete the files in: ~/.nautilus/metafiles | 19:30 |
| starsunflower | k | 19:30 |
| _MMA_ | Just a bunch of .xml links. | 19:30 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. Time to go. | 19:30 |
| starsunflower | thanks again!! | 19:30 |
| starsunflower | :D | 19:30 |
| starsunflower | tata | 19:30 |
| Superdweeb | ah banged my head on the ceiling... | 19:43 |
| Superdweeb | dammit. | 19:43 |
| kwwii | ouch | 19:43 |
| kwwii | don't do that | 19:43 |
| Superdweeb | it wasn't quite the ceiling. | 19:43 |
| Superdweeb | it was a mini-chandelier hanging from it. | 19:43 |
| Superdweeb | my mom is so short, she puts her chair right beneath it. | 19:44 |
| Superdweeb | I sat down, stood up, end of story. | 19:44 |
| thorwil | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Guidelines/Software is among my victims now, too | 21:14 |
| thorwil | but just realized Blender should be in there. anyone feels like adding it? i gotta go now, good night! :) | 21:15 |
| dashua | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_8.png , http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-1_1.png | 23:39 |
| dashua | Opinions, the latter needs some work | 23:39 |
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