| missaugustina | Hi! I'm working on the windows guided partition doc and I have a few questions | 04:31 |
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| missaugustina | 1) Which branch do I want to edit? Do I want to work on Jaunty since there's been a freeze on current versions of Ubuntu? | 04:31 |
| missaugustina | OK nm, that's my only question :) | 04:32 |
| mdke | missaugustina: it's the karmic branch that you need | 07:43 |
| mdke | missaugustina: although at the moment, there is no serious difference between the two, as we haven't started doing much work on the karmic branch yet | 07:43 |
| s3r3n1t7 | Oh my, a page has gona missing! Could anyone tell me where https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto ended up? | 14:34 |
| LjL | i was about to say that in other words, but. yes. | 14:34 |
| s3r3n1t7 | LjL, about to or did i miss it? | 14:34 |
| LjL | no, i hadn't asked yet | 14:35 |
| LjL | i was looking at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto | 14:35 |
| LjL | which claims it's been moved to /community/ | 14:35 |
| * s3r3n1t7 checks | 14:35 | |
| s3r3n1t7 | well ... it says *poof* for me | 14:36 |
| missaugustina | mdke: thanks! I will sync karmic instead of jaunty :) | 17:04 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I'm assuming you just copied old bzr branches to make the edubuntu-jaunty branch | 19:14 |
| LaserJock | for some reason, probably my fault, we only have up to gutsy in the bzr branch | 19:15 |
| mdke | LaserJock: I can't remember if I made the edubuntu-jaunty branch or not, but what I do is "bzr branch X ; bzr push Y" | 20:35 |
| mdke | missaugustina: great, look forward to seeing your material - great idea about doing documents for usb-creator | 20:36 |
| LaserJock | mdke: are you going to do the ubuntu-docs upload to add a Conflicts? | 21:09 |
| mdke | LaserJock: no, I'm not confident about that | 21:09 |
| mdke | LaserJock: is edubuntu-docs fixed and uploaded now? | 21:09 |
| LaserJock | I've just uploaded it | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | mdke: I can upload ubuntu-docs if it's just adding the Conflicts | 21:10 |
| mdke | awesome | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | I just wasn't sure if you had more changes you had queued up or something | 21:10 |
| mdke | LaserJock: yes please | 21:10 |
| mdke | LaserJock: if you add the conflict to bzr I will combine it with something else I need to do later, and upload together | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | well, let me just give you the line to add (I'm not in ubuntu-core-doc anymore) | 21:11 |
| mdke | oh, really? | 21:12 |
| mdke | what is the position on edubuntu-docs in bzr? | 21:12 |
| LaserJock | really really bad | 21:14 |
| mdke | so it's out of date with the package? | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | yes | 21:14 |
| mdke | what do you want to do about it? | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | what you guys have is from Gutsy | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | one sec | 21:15 |
| mdke | so people have been changing the package without updating bzr? why is that? | 21:15 |
| LaserJock | because nobody had access to the bzr and were in a hurry ;-) | 21:15 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-docs is basically dead | 21:15 |
| LaserJock | well, Edubuntu is basically dead | 21:16 |
| mdke | but they can just push to LP and ask someone to merge it | 21:16 |
| LaserJock | yes | 21:16 |
| mdke | slangasek has done that a couple of times for gnome-user-docs | 21:16 |
| LaserJock | ok, so add this to the ubuntu-docs part in debian/control: Conflicts: edubuntu-docs (<< 9.04.1ubuntu1) | 21:16 |
| LaserJock | under Depends | 21:17 |
| LaserJock | oh, there are already Conflicts | 21:17 |
| LaserJock | so you want Conflicts: ubuntu-faqguide, ubuntu-quickguide (<< 5.10), edubuntu-docs (<< 9.04.1ubuntu1) | 21:18 |
| mdke | gottit | 21:18 |
| LaserJock | as far as bzr | 21:18 |
| LaserJock | I would replace the edubuntu-jaunty branch with what the branch at http://package-import.ubuntu.com/e/edubuntu-docs/jaunty | 21:19 |
| LaserJock | and replace the edubuntu-hardy branch with http://package-import.ubuntu.com/e/edubuntu-docs/hardy | 21:19 |
| mdke | jeez | 21:20 |
| LaserJock | that's the best I can come up with unfortunately | 21:20 |
| mdke | it's poor form for people to have ignored that the package is maintained in bzr like that | 21:20 |
| LaserJock | well, it was likely me so yeah | 21:21 |
| LaserJock | I think I might have had a bzr branch that I was going to merge | 21:21 |
| LaserJock | but it's gone now so ... :( | 21:21 |
| LaserJock | this is what happens when people just throw stuff together | 21:22 |
| mdke | ok | 21:22 |
| LaserJock | but as it turns out, getting the branches from package-import.u.c will be just as good | 21:22 |
| mdke | why don't you rejoin ubuntu-core-doc | 21:22 |
| LaserJock | yeah, maybe that's a good idea | 21:23 |
| LaserJock | I was trying to leave Ubuntu | 21:23 |
| LaserJock | but perhaps it was a bit too soon :-) | 21:23 |
| mdke | well, I wouldn't want to be the one to force you to stay, but... we love you | 21:23 |
| mdke | do I need to wait for edubuntu-docs to be published before uploading next ubuntu-docs? | 21:24 |
| LaserJock | mdke: ok, you need to add me to the team, I can't join myself | 21:24 |
| LaserJock | mdke: LP ID is laserjock | 21:25 |
| LaserJock | mdke: no, I think it should be fine to upload now | 21:25 |
| mdke | ok, added you | 21:25 |
| mdke | I had a discussion with vorlon about whether ubuntu-core-dev should be a member of ubuntu-core-doc so that they can commit to the bzr branches | 21:26 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 21:26 |
| mdke | (given that they can touch the packages ;)) | 21:26 |
| mdke | in theory I said yes, but pointed out that they wouldn't want all the bugmail and bzr commit msgs | 21:26 |
| LaserJock | this is currently a sticky part of LP structure | 21:26 |
| LaserJock | exactly | 21:26 |
| nhandler | A lot of this will change after Archive Reorganization as well | 21:27 |
| LaserJock | I think what we really should do is separate out the packaging from the docs | 21:27 |
| LaserJock | nhandler: it'll probably get worse then | 21:27 |
| nhandler | LaserJock: I'm not sure what will happen. There has been talk about merging core-dev with motu after the reogranization | 21:28 |
| LaserJock | yes | 21:28 |
| LaserJock | but for the doc team, you still have the struggle between doc writers and packagers | 21:28 |
| mdke | I don't really like the idea of separating out packaging much, but maybe it's the right thing to do | 21:28 |
| LaserJock | so I would consider splitting it up | 21:28 |
| mdke | really, it's not much of a problem in practice, because I'm basically the only one uploading most of the time | 21:28 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 21:29 |
| mdke | and it's easy for me to merge branches if someone else touches things | 21:29 |
| LaserJock | can you directly upload? | 21:29 |
| mdke | yes, only for ubuntu-docs and gnome-user-docs | 21:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 21:29 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure what the permissions would be like for that, it's tricky | 21:30 |
| LaserJock | because you could have a packaging branch that is accessible by you + core dev | 21:30 |
| mdke | well, I'm in ubuntu-dev I think | 21:30 |
| LaserJock | and all you'd do is merge from the ubuntu-core-doc branch and upload | 21:30 |
| LaserJock | rather than uploading from the ubuntu-core-doc branch directly | 21:30 |
| nhandler | mdke: Yes you are. ubuntu-dev is for people with per-package upload rights | 21:31 |
| LaserJock | so it'd just be adding a merge | 21:31 |
| mdke | nhandler: right | 21:31 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah, that's right | 21:31 |
| LaserJock | I forgot how they did that | 21:31 |
| mdke | there is this somewhere: | 21:31 |
| mdke | (u'Archive Upload Rights', u'mdke', None, u'ubuntu-docs') | 21:31 |
| mdke | (u'Archive Upload Rights', u'mdke', None, u'gnome-user-docs') | 21:31 |
| mdke | that is what gives the per-package rights | 21:31 |
| LaserJock | mdke: ohhh, I found the missing revisions | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | the branches you made for intrepid was not updated to latest of Hardy I don't think | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | because the edubuntu-hardy branch has the revisions | 21:39 |
| mdke | maybe they came after we branched for intrepid | 21:39 |
| LaserJock | perhaps so | 21:40 |
| LaserJock | it was rather last minute | 21:40 |
| LaserJock | in which case I just forgot (or didn't know) to update Intrepid's branch | 21:40 |
| LaserJock | now for Intrepid and Jaunty are you guys starting the branch over from scratch? | 21:41 |
| LaserJock | Hardy seems to have the full history | 21:41 |
| mdke | at one stage we dropped the history, but since then we have carried it over | 21:42 |
| mdke | it was just *huge* | 21:42 |
| mdke | maybe after hardy we started afresh | 21:43 |
| LaserJock | looks like it | 21:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, I think I know enough to fix the Intrepid and Jaunty branches | 21:43 |
| mdke | thanks dude | 21:45 |
| LaserJock | np, it's all my fault anyway | 21:45 |
| LaserJock | I just get rushed trying to put Edubuntu together and forget some cleanup :( | 21:46 |
| mdke | crap, bug 354764 looks like a decent candidate for a string freeze exception | 21:51 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 354764 in ubuntu-docs "libdvdread3 has been replaced by libdvdread4 in Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354764 | 21:51 |
| LaserJock | you should be able to grep that though | 21:52 |
| LaserJock | i.e. it doesn't have to be translated | 21:52 |
| mdke | good point :) | 21:53 |
| mdke | we'll need to sed all the translations though | 21:53 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 21:53 |
| mdke | (after downloading the for the final time) | 21:54 |
| mdke | hmm | 21:55 |
| mdke | we'll just have to try to remember to take care of that after translations are sorted | 21:55 |
| * mdke kicks dput | 21:55 | |
| mdke | wheenver I'm uploading, using the internet becomes so painful | 21:56 |
| mdke | LaserJock: how can I test this new Conflicts thing? | 21:57 |
| LaserJock | install edubuntu-docs | 21:57 |
| LaserJock | then try to install the new ubuntu-docs | 21:57 |
| LaserJock | it should force removal of edubuntu-docs | 21:58 |
| mdke | unless it is the new version, right? | 21:58 |
| Atamira | :o | 21:59 |
| Atamira | theres talking | 21:59 |
| mdke | Atamira: we go through phases :) | 21:59 |
| Atamira | i know..small phases..this is quite chatty | 21:59 |
| mdke | recent times have been quite chatty | 22:00 |
| mdke | near a release, I guess | 22:00 |
| Atamira | its the upcoming release isnt it | 22:00 |
| Atamira | the last minute things | 22:00 |
| Atamira | then we'll all go back to be idle again | 22:00 |
| mdke | well, it's been a very good release cycle, I think | 22:00 |
| Atamira | im excited | 22:01 |
| LaserJock | mdke: yeah, so then you'd install the newer edubuntu-docs and it should install fine | 22:06 |
| mdke | ok, well i have about an hour while ubuntu-docs builds so we'll see | 22:06 |
| mdke | hopefully edubuntu-docs will be available by then :) | 22:06 |
| LaserJock | it's been about | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | s/about/built/ | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | my brain | 22:07 |
| mdke | cool | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | edubuntu-intrepid was fixed | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | just pushing edubuntu-jaunty | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | done | 22:07 |
| LaserJock | ok | 22:08 |
| * LaserJock takes a breath | 22:08 | |
| mdke | nice, thanks | 22:08 |
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