[00:00] <LjL> and just what is the point of using PM?
[00:00] <gnorris> because
[00:00] <gnorris> when people are talking in the main windows when someone says something it moves on the screen
[00:00] <gnorris> and make them have to foll that
[00:00] <gnorris> follo
[00:00] <LjL> yes, that's a problem with some of the more involved support sessions
[00:01] <LjL> but it's not really a problem in most instances, with proper highlighting
[00:01] <Tm_T> gnorris: that is not an issue much when you use hilight properly
[00:01] <LjL> if a question can be answered - or at least an answer can be attempted - in one line or two, then please do it in the channel
[00:01] <gnorris> im listing to LjL only
[00:01] <LjL> you're listing?
[00:02] <Tm_T> I guess he meant "listening"
[00:02] <LjL> i hope not
[00:02] <LjL> because that would be very rude of him
[00:02] <LjL> gnorris, are you familiar with the channel guidelines and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct?
[00:03] <gnorris> well i dont want to have 2 people talking to me at the same time
[00:03] <gnorris> no offence
[00:03] <LjL> it's called an IRC channel.
[00:03] <LjL> and you should listen to operators.
[00:03] <gnorris> ok
[00:03] <LjL> !etiquette > gnorris    (gnorris, see the private message from ubottu)
[00:03] <LjL> please check these
[00:03] <LjL> especially the guidelines and CoC
[00:04] <LjL> rejoin #ubuntu when you're pretty sure you're ready and willing to follow them
[00:04] <gnorris> ok
[00:04] <gnorris> look
[00:04] <gnorris> if i ask a person if they would like to solve the problem in im and they accept 
[00:04]  * Tm_T assumes gnorris isn't in 50 different channels like me these days
[00:07] <LjL> gnorris: ... any op will immediately think you intend to give them dangerous commands or break into their system, or something like that.
[00:07] <gnorris> what?
[00:07] <Tm_T> unless there seems to be proper reason to that ofcourse
[00:08] <LjL> gnorris: that's what one is lead to think when someone spams the channel with "does anyone need help?" messages, and then "i'll PM you help" to anyone who asks.
[00:08] <gnorris> Ok well im sorry it seamed like that sorry for the inconveince
[00:08] <gnorris> but i have one question
[00:08] <gnorris> How do you become an operator
[00:08] <LjL> the guidelines talk about that part too.
[00:09] <gnorris> can you give me a link
[00:09] <LjL> i did.
[00:09] <LjL> [01:03:44] <LjL> !etiquette > gnorris    (gnorris, see the private message from ubottu)
[00:09] <gnorris> ok
[00:09] <LjL> [01:03:46] <LjL> please check these
[00:09] <LjL> [01:03:50] <LjL> especially the guidelines and CoC
[00:09] <gnorris> ok
[00:10] <gnorris> he
[00:10] <gnorris> hea
[00:11] <gnorris> Is it ok for me to become an operator if i understand the rules and guidelines, and can i stay in as an operator for whenever im on the chat?
[00:12] <LjL> no, you don't become an operator by asking - as the guidelines explain.
[00:12] <LjL> please read them.
[00:12] <LjL> come back if you've got more questions *after you've read them*.
[00:12] <gnorris> i cant find them
[00:12] <LjL> !etiquette
[00:12] <LjL> !guidelines
[00:12] <LjL> !coc
[00:12] <LjL> !bot
[00:12] <gnorris> i have to put in a code like this right /msg chanserv op #channel-name your-nic
[00:13] <LjL> come back when you've read the guidelines and the rest.
[00:17]  * LjL is not convinced (he already rejoined #ubuntu)
[00:17] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops gnorris Asperger's or troll's - that is the question
[00:21] <gnorris> Well i read the rules and guidelines!
[00:22] <gnorris> I read the rules
[00:22] <Seeker`> bedon: how can we help you?
[00:22] <bedon> nothing for now
[00:23] <gnorris> Let me see if i understand
[00:23] <Seeker`> bedon: please don't idle in here
[00:23] <gnorris> You can only become an operator by being hand picked from the Staff. Correct?
[00:23] <LjL> correct
[00:23] <bedon> what do you mean
[00:23] <gnorris> How do they go about doing that
[00:24] <Seeker`> bedon: if there is nothing we can help you with right now, please leave
[00:24] <LjL> !idle | bedon
[00:24] <bedon> Ho !!  sorry 
[00:24] <LjL> gnorris: they keep an eye on people who've been helpful, balanced and generally positive
[00:24] <LjL> ... and who don't ask about op privileges.
[00:24] <bedon> got the wrong chan i gess
[00:24] <gnorris> what do people like have ratings
[00:25] <gnorris> can people give other people ratings
[00:25] <bedon> Ho !!  i am not an op   
[00:25] <gnorris> me niether
[00:25] <LjL> gnorris: no
[00:25] <gnorris> ok
[00:25] <bedon> Ho 
[00:25] <gnorris> bye
[00:26] <LjL> bedon: please, leave.
[00:26] <gnorris> hea bedon
[00:26] <bedon> i am not a spy 
[00:26] <gnorris> can you please leave
[00:26] <LjL> bedon: leave anyway
[00:26] <bedon> what is this    
[00:28] <LjL> gnorris: if you don't have any more questions for us, please follow suit
[00:28] <gnorris> sorry
[00:28] <gnorris> froze up
[00:28] <gnorris> bye
[00:28] <Seeker`> :/
[00:28] <LjL> christ.
[00:29] <LjL> gnorris has a clone online, btw
[00:29] <LjL> not sure if that's relevant to anything but just thought i'd mention it
[00:29] <Seeker`> LjL: how do you know that?
[00:30] <LjL> Seeker`: /who his-host
[00:30] <LjL> bedon: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion/issues etc to #ubuntu-irc | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Be good!
[00:31] <Seeker`> bedon: anything we can help you with yet?
[00:32] <bedon> merci de votre aide Thank for your help  gone 
[00:34] <Seeker`> ...
[01:18] <madtinhatter> hey can someone tell me how to install a linux os alongside intrepid so that you can choose which one to boot into when you start up?
[01:19]  * LjL keeps wondering whether chronic1 is chronic banevading
[01:20] <LjL> madtinhatter: this is not a support channel, try asking ##linux
[01:20] <madtinhatter> k thanks
[01:29] <the_mechanic_> hey can someone tell me how to install a linux os while already running intrepid so that i can choose which system to boot into when i start up my comp?
[01:34] <LjL> sigh
[03:35] <RDove> hey, i can't get in to ubuntu yet, i am connected on port 8001
[03:43] <FriendlyEagle> i got it working
[03:46] <Amaranth> LjL: Someone was hopping through mibbit hostmasks
[03:46] <Amaranth> Was supposed to be for an hour or so, forgot about it
[06:19] <ikonia> @bansearch Nephilus
[06:27] <bazhang> ikonia, nephilus ban evading?
[08:30] <ubot3> In ubot3, jzmer said: !operator is channel operator
[08:31] <Flannel> Hi jzmer, how can we help you?
[08:32] <ikonia> bazhang: yup
[08:32] <jzmer> i was just testing "is" with the bot and accidentally entered "! operator is channel operator" is there anything inappropriate about this?
[08:32] <Flannel> Inappropriate? what?
[08:33] <Flannel> No, nothing inappropriate.
[08:33] <jzmer> oh, thought this might show up somewhere on the list of requests
[08:33] <Flannel> Yeah, it shows up here.
[08:34] <Flannel> Wouldn't be the first time someone has accidentally done something like that
[08:34] <jzmer> Flannel: erh, wait a second, I assume u r a human?
[08:34] <ikonia> ?
[08:34] <jzmer> Flannel: I mean, not a bot?
[08:34] <Flannel> jzmer: You'd have to ask ikonia that.  I'm not self aware yet.
[08:35] <topyli> debatable
[08:35] <ikonia> flannel is human yes
[08:35] <ikonia> jzmer: is there anything you actually need/want ?
[08:36] <jzmer> ikonia: just need to make sure if i did anything wrong
[08:36] <ikonia> jzmer: nope, no problem
[08:37] <jzmer> Flannel: sorry for my doubts, coz i noted u said something like "Hi jzmer, how can we help you?" when I just logged in, so  . . .
[08:37] <ikonia> jzmer: it's not a problem
[08:38] <jzmer> ikonia: thanks anyway, have a good night to ya
[08:39]  * Flannel is a well programmed chat bo... ERROR ERROR.
[08:39] <ikonia> Flannel: you're very interactive 
[08:40] <Flannel> ikonia: How does my being very interactive make you feel?
[08:40] <ikonia> stalked
[08:41] <ikonia> </typical response>
[08:41] <Flannel> ikonia: What else?
[08:41] <ikonia> Flannel: 110100110010011100110
[08:41] <ikonia> Flannel: it makes me feel happy
[08:41] <Flannel> ikonia: And what do you think of 110100110010011100110?
[08:42] <Flannel> ikonia: what else makes you happy?
[08:42] <ikonia> Flannel: your momma
[08:42] <Flannel> ikonia: How does my momma make you feel?
[08:43] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[08:43] <Flannel> I'm doing a rather poor job at being a chat bot.
[08:43] <ikonia> no no, not bad
[08:43] <ikonia> I've had worse converssations with real people
[08:43] <elky> i agree with ikonia
[08:44] <topyli> Flannel will soon be turing complete
[08:44] <ikonia> what is the ! trigger for flannel bot ?
[08:45] <elky> 'oi, you'
[08:45] <Flannel> According to jzmer, [X] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[08:46] <ikonia> I see a bug, can someone disconnect flannel please
[08:46] <Flannel> Nooo.... my bits.
[08:46] <ikonia> ha
[09:32] <topyli> yay locke is back on -ot
[09:33] <ikonia> I thought he was banned ?
[09:33] <elky> did he get unbanned?
[09:34] <elky> @bansearch |_ocke
[09:34] <ikonia> I could just be wrong 
[09:39] <elky> nope, no ban currently there
[09:39] <elky> he'll mess up soon enough though
[09:39] <ikonia> probably just mistaken 
[09:40] <elky> possibly, but we're stuck with him now until he starts being inappropriate again
[10:31] <bazhang> ikonia, nephilus joined from an entirely different isp right after you did that bansearch
[10:31] <bazhang> o0Chris0o, how may we assist you
[10:32] <elky> o0Chris0o, what edit do you want to suggest?
[10:32] <o0Chris0o> !ot
[10:32] <o0Chris0o> hmm
[10:32] <Myrtti> !ot-#ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <Myrtti> !o4o-#ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <bazhang> aha
[10:32] <Myrtti> right...
[10:33]  * Myrtti kicks ubottu gently
[10:33] <Myrtti> work.
[10:33] <o0Chris0o> lol
[10:33] <elky> um...
[10:33] <o0Chris0o> well I was in #ubuntu+1 and it referenced #ubuntu as the support channel instead of #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <Myrtti> I only work here!
[10:34] <o0Chris0o> anyway to have ubottu reference ubuntu+1 as a support channel as well?
[10:35] <bazhang> wth
[10:35] <o0Chris0o> hope thats not confusing to you guys
[10:36] <bazhang> nhasian in +1
[10:37] <o0Chris0o> bazhang→ him and another was having a OT conversation when I called the offtopic tag (!ot) it referenced as if we were in ubuntu, not ubuntu+1
[10:37] <o0Chris0o> hope that makes sense, its late here
 sebsebseb, for some reason 20 year old girls wont give you the time of day if you tell them your over 30, but if your 27 then its go time
[10:39] <o0Chris0o> oh yeah
[10:40] <Myrtti> spank him
[10:40] <Myrtti> spank him hard
[10:40] <bazhang> that is beyond offtopic imo
[10:40] <elky> well beyond
[10:40] <o0Chris0o> bazhang→ yeah I agree
[10:41] <bazhang> kb'able imo
[10:41] <elky> not quite
[10:41] <elky> if persistant, yes. but not straight off.
[10:41] <bazhang> thefeds now ranting about not wanting to install ubuntu because it promotes religion; am going to remove if he continues
[10:43] <elky> where?
[10:44] <bazhang> in #ubuntu ; he seems to have taken the !ot to heart for a short while at least
[12:29] <Myrtti> renicked to cytoplasm currently
[12:33] <Myrtti> it's lovely how sebsebseb gives us advice on how to IRC
[12:40]  * elky really should stop biting
[12:41] <elky> um... what's the sed syntax for the bot?
[12:42] <elky> Myrtti, halps?
[12:42] <ikonia> ~s/word/newword
[12:42] <ubot3> Factoid s/word/newword not found
[12:43] <elky> !ops is ~s/word/newword
[12:43] <elky> um...
[12:43] <elky> !ops ~s/elkbuntu/elky/
[12:44] <elky> ikonia, me dum
[12:45] <Myrtti> !ops ~= /elkbuntu/elky/
[12:46] <Myrtti> :-)
[12:46] <ikonia> ahhh ~=
[12:46] <ikonia> sorry 
[12:46] <ikonia> is elkbuntu dead now ?
[12:46] <elky> yays
[12:46] <elky> i'll bring it out next time i want to be asked what DE i run
[12:46] <ikonia> ah
[12:47] <elky> plus, i never used 'elky' on OFTC, and maintaining multiple nicks is annoying
[12:49] <ikonia> elky it is
[12:50] <elky> anyway, i'm going to pike early. want to go shoe and chair shopping tomorrow
[12:55] <ikonia> oooh shoe
[12:55] <bazhang> any reason to allow thefeds access to continue trolling?
[12:56] <ikonia> not any more, he's had enough warning
[12:56] <bazhang> first it was root autologin, then ubuntu is promoting religion, now put cigarettes in with every cd...
[12:58] <elky> next stuffup, please ban him to kingdom come
[12:58] <bazhang> okay elky 
[12:58] <ikonia> it's an issue - he's a cloaked user since 2008 november, yet chose to use multiple non-cloaked nicks to be an issue
[14:18] <bazhang> err seamonkey is not a chatzilla irc client?
[14:18] <ikonia> apparantly it is ?
[14:19] <bazhang> hehe
[14:19] <bazhang> mozilla-chatzilla in the repos
[14:19] <bazhang> looks like a pizza topping :)
[14:20] <ikonia> ha
[14:20] <bazhang> sebsebseb seemed to be improving, but is getting back to old ways again imo
[14:20] <LjL> elky: that was pretty gratuitous really.
[14:21] <bazhang> ie telling everyone that it is *him* and *him* alone that triggered the bot (thus due the thanks)
[14:21] <ikonia> I know I know, I'm speaking to him 
[14:21] <bazhang> LjL, the mailing list?
[14:21] <ikonia> I'm trying to cut him slack as his social illness can be hard to control 
[14:21] <LjL> bazhang: mhm
[14:22] <bazhang> that convo got too meta for me
[14:30]  * genii sips
[14:36] <LjL> !lvm
[14:36] <LjL> that wiki page is broken, does anyone know where it ended up? in a metro train, under a bridge?
[14:36] <ikonia> !Raid
[14:36] <ikonia> LjL: check that one, I re-wrote it
[14:36] <LjL> ikonia: and you deleted the previous one?
[14:37] <ikonia> no
[14:37] <ikonia> the previous one was gone for a while, hence why I refreshed that one
[14:38] <ikonia> I need to do an "ubuntu lvm" one to make it in the official wiki rather than a 3rd party
[14:38] <LjL> hmm
[14:38] <ikonia> I'll do that this weekend 
[14:38]  * ikonia makes a note on todo list
[14:38] <LjL> ikonia: talk to hateball, he wants to do the same (check -ot)
[14:38] <LjL> !-lvm
[14:38] <LjL> !no lvm is <alias> raid
[14:39] <ikonia> LjL: if you see me on line over the weekend nudge me to remind me, I've just put an entry in my calander 
[15:00]  * mneptok waves from Boston
[15:01] <LjL> mneptok: you're finding more places to scare people off?
[15:01] <mneptok> LjL: visiting family before moving west
[15:01] <bazhang> wow NM has a boston?
[15:02] <mneptok> bazhang: Oregon would have, if the coin toss had gone to the guy from Boston, and not Portland, Maine ;)
[15:02] <bazhang> mneptok, haha
[15:04] <mneptok> bazhang: true story
[15:04] <bazhang> mneptok, still funny though :)
[15:10] <Errietta> Hello :)
[15:11] <LjL> hi
[15:11] <Errietta> Um i was wondering if we could like have a little talk about a little channel ban? :)
[15:12] <LjL> i think so
[15:12] <Errietta> Uh i got banned from #ubuntu some time ago
[15:12] <LjL> yes
[15:12] <Errietta> Because i behaved a bit badly and all and i was wondering if you could be so kind to remove that at so me time
[15:12] <bazhang> @bansearch Errietta 
[15:12] <LjL> Errietta, that wasn't a bit badly
[15:12] <Errietta> Yeah, that one.
[15:12] <LjL> that was very badly
[15:13] <Errietta> ok..
[15:13] <Errietta> 1024 bits badly?
[15:13] <bazhang> extremely badly
[15:13] <Errietta> 1 yotta byte kk?
[15:13] <bazhang> @banlog Errietta 
[15:13] <LjL> Errietta, aside from the reasons that led to the (several) bans themselves
[15:13] <Errietta> Ok 1024 yottabites
[15:13] <LjL> you insulted and threatened operators
[15:13] <LjL> here
[15:13] <LjL> in PM
[15:13] <Errietta> bytes*
[15:13] <LjL> on #freenode
[15:13] <LjL> just about everywhere you could come up with
[15:13] <bazhang> death threats
[15:13] <LjL> be thankful you're still on the network, seriously
[15:13] <Errietta> I'm sorry
[15:14] <Errietta> I did get klined but im back now as the support said
[15:14] <bazhang> ban wont be lifted.
[15:14] <Errietta> But--
[15:14] <LjL> but, nothing
[15:14] <bazhang> no.
[15:14] <Errietta> Never?
[15:14] <bazhang> bye bye.
[15:14] <LjL> next time you don't do death treaths
[15:14] <LjL> ... on the next channel you join
[15:14] <LjL> which won't be #ubuntu
[15:14] <Errietta> I didn't make any death threats here did i
[15:15] <LjL> who cares whether you did them here or elsewhere
[15:15] <LjL> you did them
[15:15] <Errietta> I learned my lesson now though :(
[15:15] <LjL> bit too late
[15:15] <bazhang> Errietta, please part the channel now.
[15:15] <Errietta> Fine.
[15:15] <Errietta> Im not gonna argue about it
[15:15] <Errietta> its ur choice
[15:15] <bazhang> bye.
[15:15] <Errietta> :(
[15:16] <jpds> OK....
[15:16] <bazhang> thought he was a ubuntu-wide ban
[15:16] <bazhang> ie all namespace
[15:16] <LjL> #ubuntu-ops isn't part of "all namespace" bans for what i'm concerned
[15:16] <bazhang> not here.
[15:17] <bazhang> kubuntu, xubuntu, etc etc
[15:17] <LjL> well she's nowhere else currently
[15:17] <bazhang> so far
[15:17] <Errietta> what if i promise ill be nice
[15:17] <LjL> NO
[15:17] <bazhang> no.
[15:17] <Errietta> Just one more chance
[15:18] <Errietta> Ok i get it
[15:18] <Errietta> Bye
[15:18] <LjL> Errietta: you've had your fair share of chances.
[15:18] <LjL> bye.
[15:18] <bazhang> death threats dont get another chance.
[15:18] <Errietta> i wont bother u here either.
[15:18] <LjL> bazhang: neither does having a shitload of bantracker entries, for that matter
[15:18] <LjL> [16:18:32] <Errietta> I WAS GOING TO LEAVE
[15:18] <LjL> [16:18:33] <Errietta> U know what
 so far
[15:18] <LjL> [16:18:47] <Errietta> if u dont give ppl chances
[15:18] <LjL> [16:18:50] <Errietta> they wont give u a chance
[15:19] <LjL> [16:19:02] <LjL> is that another threat?
[15:19] <LjL> [16:19:05] <Errietta> no
[15:19] <LjL> [16:19:10] <Errietta> im just saying
[15:19] <LjL> [16:19:13] <Errietta> it's a fact of life
[15:19] <bazhang> how is he still even allowed on freenode
[15:19] <LjL> [16:19:34] <Errietta> W/e
[15:19] <Myrtti> klines arent permanent
[15:20] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Errietta Seems like another threat to me.
[15:21] <bazhang> zloy got a longer one for posting goatse and trolling -women
[15:23] <LjL> still pm'ing me
[15:23] <LjL> after being told a number of times to stop
[15:25] <bazhang> now he is pm'ing me :(
[15:25] <LjL> Errietta: stop sending unwanted private messages to people.
[15:26] <LjL> stop it NOW.
[15:26] <Errietta> What was the last time someone asked you to be your friend
[15:26] <Errietta> If you say "10 years ago" or "never" obviously there's something wrong with the way you treat people
[15:26] <bazhang> death threats preclude that.
[15:26] <Errietta> I'm not a bad person
[15:26] <Errietta> I just want to have a chance to prove it
[15:26] <Errietta> I wouldn't kill anyone
[15:27] <LjL> Errietta: you have been told you won't get another chance.
[15:27] <Errietta> I don't have guns
[15:27] <LjL> Errietta: not stop sending people unwanted PMs.
[15:27] <LjL> s/not/now/
[15:27] <bazhang> prove it elsewhere
[15:27] <Errietta> ur not in anhy other channels
[15:27] <Errietta> That's not fair
[15:27] <LjL> Errietta: answer this question - will stop sending people unsolicited and unwanted PMs *right now*?
[15:27] <Errietta> i dont mean to annoy u
[15:27] <LjL> Errietta: answer this question - will stop sending people unsolicited and unwanted PMs *right now*?
[15:27] <Errietta> im just a friendly person unlike u
[15:27] <Errietta> i like talking to people
[15:27] <bazhang> no
[15:27] <Errietta> i sometimes feel lonely
[15:28] <Errietta> Is that bad too?
[15:28] <Errietta> Is having feelings really such a horrible thing
[15:28] <LjL> Errietta: answer this question - will you stop sending people unsolicited and unwanted PMs *right now*?
[15:28] <Errietta> Yes ok jesus
[15:28] <LjL> fine.
[15:28] <LjL> bye.
[15:28] <Errietta> What
[15:29] <bazhang> bye.
[15:29] <Errietta> I just want a chance to prove that im a nice personm
[15:29] <Errietta> why dont u give me that chance
[15:29] <Errietta> im not gonna do any harm
[15:29] <LjL> [16:29:22] <Errietta> Hi
[15:29] <LjL> [16:29:27] <Errietta> i cant kill over the internet
[15:29] <LjL> [16:29:29] <Errietta> u know that right
[15:30] <bazhang> :/
[15:30] <LjL> !staff | I believe Errietta may need some more time to think about her attitude on this network, please review that
[15:32] <LjL> i wasn't in #defocus but i suspect there might be some review needed in there too about her
[15:32] <LjL> also, i don't think #erry is a valid on-topic channel
[15:32] <bazhang> s/erry/scary
[15:41] <LjL> bazhang, are you sure asking about how much memory you need for stuff is a support question to begin with?
[15:41] <LjL> methinks -ot is bad enough that some semi-support discussions are unlikely to hurt anybody
[15:42] <Amaranth> @bansearch comingsoon
[15:42] <bazhang> seems he is trolling
[15:44] <bazhang> he joined ubuntu then quit
[15:44] <bazhang> now he claims he cannot join
[15:45] <LjL> he's on mibbit, might be confused
[15:45] <bazhang> haha
[15:46] <jpds> Hm, what did he do wrong?
[15:46] <bazhang> not much really. grawity was much worse imo
[15:46] <bazhang> oh no! closet monster JDONG
[15:47] <LjL> grawity, since you're here
[15:47] <LjL> how's about not feeding the trolls
[15:48] <grawity> LjL: Which one?
[15:48] <LjL> for starters there's no need to *say* in the channel that you've put someone on ignore
[15:48] <LjL> just ignore
[15:48]  * grawity notes
[15:49] <bazhang> and avoid the excessive /me please
[15:49] <bazhang> ugh
[15:49] <LjL> response to my request to join here was
[15:50] <LjL> [16:47:00] <aloneinthedark> :)  [16:47:38] <aloneinthedark> it is not possible to ignore the truth!
[15:50] <LjL> so banned
[15:50] <LjL> oh, and he's got multiple hosts!"
[15:50] <LjL> wonderful.
[15:51] <bazhang> yeowch
[15:52] <LjL> ugh
[15:52] <LjL> ugh, ugh, ugh
[15:59]  * ikonia watches the erry moron show
[16:00] <Picipod> where?
[16:00] <ikonia> #defocus
[16:00] <ikonia> "I'm a bad person" etc etc
[16:00] <ikonia> don't know why the staff in there are not just kicking off the network 
[16:00] <LjL> i recommend staying out of the... discussion, though
[16:00] <ikonia> he's admiting he's a pain and will continue to be an issue
[16:01] <ikonia> not saying a word
[16:01] <ikonia> no interest to discuss anything 
[16:01] <ikonia> just watching with confusion
[16:01] <LjL> good
[16:01] <LjL> bazhang: cxole might be aloneinthedark again, fyi
[16:01] <LjL> might - not sure
[16:02] <LjL> err, more sure now
[16:02] <jpds> Ha.
[16:02] <bazhang> yep
[16:03]  * genii makes more coffee
[16:04] <ikonia> genii: poor me one, I'll take one for once
[16:05]  * genii prepares ikonia a large Ubuntu mug of coffee just how he likes it
[16:07] <ikonia> I think this week as official been ubuntu troll week
[16:07] <ikonia> each year we should celbrate it
[16:08] <ikonia> "has" not as
[16:08] <LjL> warning
[16:08] <ikonia> ?
[16:08] <LjL> i think the previous troll is coming back with some clones
[16:09] <LjL> not many, but some
[16:09] <ikonia> which one ?
[16:09] <ikonia> there have been so many this week
[16:09] <ikonia> I see them in -it
[16:09] <LjL> (memame and mnk namely)
[16:09] <LjL> semame even
[16:09] <LjL> who?
[16:09] <ikonia> LjL: forget that, read it wrong
[16:10] <LjL> ikonia: i know i am in -it, but i would never warn about myself :(
[16:10] <LjL> you know i'm in #ubuntu all the time anyway
[16:11] <ikonia> LjL: I was just being wrong
[16:12] <LjL> and i was right about semame
[16:12] <LjL> hi GreenRanger
[16:13] <LjL> can we help you somehow?
[16:13] <GreenRanger> I call upon the power of the dragonzord
[16:13] <LjL> i guess not
[16:13] <ikonia> well that made my laugh
[16:13] <ikonia> super
[16:13]  * ikonia wonders if it is morphin time
[16:14] <LjL> going +r
[16:14] <ikonia> okey dokey
[16:15] <ikonia> is Iceman_B^Ltop icebuntu (I saw him yesterday)
[16:15] <LjL> i dunno
[16:15] <ikonia> bazhang: as the icebuntu expert.....
[16:16] <bazhang> ikonia, hehe
[16:16] <bazhang> wish I wasnt :(
[16:17] <ikonia> dont think iceman_b is icebuntu, he formed logical questions in #ubuntu-server
[16:18] <bazhang> no I dont think so
[16:18] <bazhang> he says okay and not okey for one
[16:18] <ikonia> Picipod: come back......
[16:18] <ikonia> bazhang: yeah, sensible questions in #ubuntu-server
[16:19] <LjL> look at latest ban i did
[16:19] <bazhang> ikonia, also he is saying things like 'that wont fly' which icebuntu never would
[16:19] <LjL> (i did suspect of anseim a bit earlier but he didn't show as a proxy...)
[16:19] <ikonia> LjL: I don't recognise the IP 
[16:19] <bazhang> ljlop?
[16:19] <LjL> ikonia: he's using a lot of different ips, mostly drones
[16:19] <Picipod> ikonia: annoying troll is annoying
[16:20] <LjL> yes
[16:20] <ikonia> Picipod: ha ha ha
[16:20] <ikonia> Picipod: wondered how long you'd take it
[16:20] <bazhang> kind of like ikoniaz
[16:20] <ikonia> gary delt with him quick sharp
[16:23] <LjL> [17:23:17] [Who] nvstp is n=edwin@221.6.3.98 (yandong)
[16:23] <LjL> [17:23:17] [Who] edwin is n=edwin@79.114.100.61 (Török Edwin) (Away)
[16:23] <LjL> [17:23:17] [Who] edwinb is n=edwin@proteus.green-dragon.org (Edwin Brady)
[16:23] <LjL> will this be him again?
[16:23] <LjL> given the "green dragon" host
[16:24] <LjL> nick registered a bit too far in the past to be a troll, though
[16:24] <ikonia> my bet is yes
[16:24] <LjL> well, edwinb was registered in 2004 though
[16:24] <bazhang> grawity getting too offtopic?
[16:25] <LjL> jesus christ now i have to ban myself
[16:25] <ikonia> just about to say
[16:25] <ikonia> that will hit you
[16:25] <LjL> nah
[16:26] <bazhang> that is grawity second warning with !ot
[16:26] <LjL> won't hit me
[16:26] <LjL> the ? prevents that
[16:26] <ikonia> your op'd
[16:26] <ikonia> how does the ? prevent it ?
[16:26] <LjL> it will hit ljl-temp, but i don't have it online anyway
[16:26] <LjL> ikonia: ? *must* match one single character
[16:26] <ikonia> you fall into the ? with ljl don't you 
[16:26] <LjL> no
[16:26] <ikonia> ahh so it would have to be ljl$
[16:26] <LjL> LjL?*
[16:26] <ikonia> I thought it was ljl AND lgl$
[16:26] <LjL> i need to have something after LjL
[16:26] <ikonia> ljl
[16:26] <ikonia> yup, I see
[16:26] <bazhang> yarroboogs
[16:27] <Picipod> zarro
[16:27] <bazhang> * [umakant] (n=umakant@114.69.251.23): Umakant Chaudhari  bingo
[16:27] <bazhang> in #kubuntu
[16:28] <ikonia> bazhang: thats ice isn't it ?
[16:28] <bazhang> ikonia, yep
[16:28] <ikonia> which one is he
[16:31] <ikonia> not banned in #k so nothing to do
[16:32] <bazhang> ikonia, no he is not banned there, just wanted to point out he is switching nicks (again)
[16:32] <ikonia> no no, good to see
[16:32] <bazhang> 20th time or so
[16:32] <ikonia> icebuntu is asues tek yes/no ?
[16:32] <ikonia> I lose track ?
[16:32] <bazhang> yep
[16:32] <ikonia> ok
[16:32] <bazhang> asustek, hynix, umakant, anand, icebuntu
[16:36] <ikonia> so much to remember
[16:37] <LjL> i think [Whois] LJIEVK is n=lskasj@58.86.219.231 (sadñlk) is still him but, who knows
[16:38] <ikonia> just keep an eye on 
[16:38] <LjL> ok it's him
[16:38] <ikonia> what gave it away, the nick change ?
[16:38] <bazhang> heh
[16:38] <LjL> yeah
[16:39] <LjL> he's trying to circumvent my ban while still making clear he's using my nick
[16:39] <bazhang> what the heck
[16:39] <LjL> typical nick-troll
[16:39] <bazhang> he wants to spread the truth that much?
[16:39] <LjL> bazhang: wait... he's ntfs?
[16:40] <bazhang> LjL, this is aloneinthedark?
[16:40] <LjL> bazhang: i think so yeah
[16:40] <bazhang> thought he wanted to spread the 'truth' about windows being so great
[16:40] <LjL> bazhang: ah ok. 'cause there was another one yesterday wanting to "spread the truth"
[16:40] <LjL> he talked in all caps, though
[16:41] <ikonia> the truth is out there
[16:41] <bazhang> the hello sinners guy?
[16:41] <LjL> no, no
[16:41] <LjL> a new one
[16:41] <bazhang> seekingtruth iirc
[16:41] <LjL> wanting to spread the truth about needing to turn off computers to save power
[16:41] <genii> If the truth is windows, i don wanna know
[16:42] <bazhang> so much truth out there :(
[16:42]  * LjL just hopes ljlane doesn't try to join #ubuntu
[16:42] <LjL> ikonia: oh by the way, just to prove ljievk *was* him
[16:42] <LjL>  [Who] lJlOpP is n=lskasj@58.86.219.231 (sadñlk)
[16:42] <ikonia> don't doubt you 
[16:43] <LjL> ikonia: why not - detecting ban evaders isn't an exact science :)
[16:43] <ikonia> no, but you normally have sound judgment
[16:44] <LjL> well, nobody dangerous-looking online for l*j*l* right now
[16:44] <LjL> hope he's taken a break
[16:45] <ikonia> probably tired
[16:46] <bazhang> eww
[16:46] <LjL> zero tolerance mode is in effect, if you don't mind ;P
[16:47] <bazhang> haha
[16:47] <ikonia> okey dokey
[16:47] <bazhang> zero tolerance for urinating friends mode
[16:47] <ikonia> I wanted to be his urinating friend
[16:47] <LjL> found a channel with him about that :P
[16:47] <bazhang> hehe
[16:48] <ikonia> LjL: bet you've filled up the ban list !
[16:48] <LjL> quite likely...
[16:48] <LjL> i'll remove them, but i prefer to wait a bit
[16:48] <ikonia> of coruse
[16:48] <ikonia> course
[16:49] <bazhang> save one space for umakant
[16:49] <LjL> i'll try
[16:54] <LjL> alright, i know where the guy was taking proxies from
[16:54] <LjL> i'll make a few bans, don't go "huh"
[16:54] <bazhang> nice work ljl
[16:58] <LjL> nah i can't do it, there's too many ones that actually work, i *would* fill up the banlist
[17:13] <bazhang> that is a funny factoid !jding
[17:13] <bazhang> oops
[17:15] <LjL> !-jding
[17:17] <LjL> methinkgs jbl_whateverhescalled is a troll regardless of being aloneinthedark
[17:19] <Pricey> spelling error on bantracker, "descuss"
[17:19] <bazhang> yep
[17:19] <Pricey> @btlogin
[17:19] <bazhang> wants everything in terminal
[17:23] <Pricey> @btlogin
[17:25] <LjL> bazhang: i think you're mistaken though
[17:25] <LjL> !info mldonkey-server
[17:25] <LjL> this works fine in the terminal
[17:25] <ubot2_> LjL: mldonkey-server (source: mldonkey): Door to the 'donkey' network. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.5-1ubuntu0.1 (intrepid), package size 2436 kB, installed size 6164 kB
[17:25] <bazhang> LjL, my mistake then
[17:25] <bazhang> not the first time btw
 net gnutella for ubuntu ?
[17:34] <genii> LjL: I was so tempted to remark that the #ubuntu-offtopic room is directly under #ubuntu
[17:36] <bazhang> grawity trolling?
[17:37] <LjL> bazhang: .-- .... --- -.- -. --- .-- ...
[17:37] <bazhang> morse for yes I am guessing
[17:38] <LjL> bazhang: no morse for "who knows"
[17:48] <bazhang> ready to kick grawity from #ubuntu
[17:48] <bazhang> he has been warned many times about ot
[18:00] <bazhang> he never threatened anything; o0---0o is imagining it
[18:01] <bazhang> o0Chris0o, how may we help you
[18:04] <o0Chris0o> Is it right for an op to say something degrading in a way about a program in a support channel? Then after after I replied to the op saying "please keep idiotic comments to yourself, this is a support channel, not a bashing channel"  He opped himself and threatens me with "excuse me" I think thats uncalled for. 
[18:05] <Pricey> o0Chris0o: Which channel?
[18:06] <o0Chris0o> #ubuntu
[18:06] <bazhang> excuse me is a threat?
[18:06] <o0Chris0o> bazhang→ no, he opped himself, than he said excused me, threatend me with his op power
[18:07] <o0Chris0o> excuse* sorry
[18:07] <bazhang> power mad operator?
[18:07] <o0Chris0o> I would say so
[18:10] <Pricey> mneptok: are you around?
[18:11] <Pricey> o0Chris0o: Have you talked to him in /query?
[18:12] <o0Chris0o> Pricey→ no, kinda was afraid to talk to him to tell ya the truth, I come here to get support a lot, I don't want to ruin it
[18:13] <Pricey> o0Chris0o: Would there be any chance for you to try and catch him in PM when he's available and attempt to sort it out there?
[18:13] <bazhang> he's not *that* scary :)
[18:14] <o0Chris0o> Pricey→ Sure.
[18:14] <Pricey> We have a funky little https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess written up.
[18:14] <bazhang> he was never kicked or anything Pricey ; should that apply?
[18:15] <o0Chris0o> Pricey→ alright, I will remember that, for the most part, there wasn't any harm done accept threatening with op power, but I'm sure he knows that now by looking into this channel
[18:16] <Pricey> bazhang: its a dispute and I don't think that following its advice/steps can cause any harm?
[18:16] <Pricey> bazhang: I'm very hopeful that it can be resolved in PM too.
[18:17] <bazhang> o0Chris0o, is there anything else?
[18:17] <tsimpson> btw, it would be better not to call people idiots in the channel (re: "please keep idiotic comments to yourself...")
[18:17] <Pricey> afk
[18:18] <tsimpson> there are better ways to phrase that
[18:18] <o0Chris0o> bazhang→ nope that will be it thanks :)
[18:18] <o0Chris0o> tsimpson→ I agree, better ways to phrase what he said as well
[18:18] <o0Chris0o> thanks
[18:18] <tsimpson> sure :)
[18:31] <bazhang> liticovjesac? was that one of the trolls id's?
[18:38] <LjL> doesn't ring a bell to me
[18:38] <bazhang> ok
[18:38] <bazhang> he was mentioned in the Troll-archlinux hq
[18:46] <LjL> bazhang: yamata joined #freenode first, been in there for a while, and he appears to be connected from a proxy.
[18:46] <bazhang> yamata in -ot
[18:46] <bazhang> LjL, heh sorry
[18:47] <bazhang> yamata is fujisan btw
[18:47] <LjL> oh
[18:48] <LjL> bazhang: you know that how?
[18:48] <bazhang> stalking el ky in oftc
[18:48] <LjL> ugh
[18:49] <bazhang> LjL, put together by her and i k o n i a iirc
[19:08] <bazhang> only in #freenode now
[20:16] <bazhang> owen9376, how may we help you
[20:18] <TORtuga> why you kick me?
[20:18] <bazhang> TORtuga, you were spamming the channel and offtopic
[20:19] <TORtuga> no, I am only spamming suport channel, no offtopic
 can you suck my ass?
[20:19] <TORtuga> no
 FloodBot1: are you firl or woman?
[20:19] <TORtuga> thanks
[20:20] <TORtuga> I prefer don't do this :S
[20:20] <bazhang> that is spamming and against the code of conduct
[20:20] <bazhang> !coc | TORtuga 
[20:21] <TORtuga> ubottu: you here too!!!!!!!?
[20:21] <TORtuga> ubottu: ?
[20:21] <TORtuga> xD
[20:21] <TORtuga> xDDD
[20:21] <TORtuga> xDDDDDDDDDDD
[20:21] <TORtuga> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd
[20:21] <bazhang> TORtuga, stop that
[20:21] <TORtuga> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[20:21] <TORtuga> xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd
[20:21] <TORtuga> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[20:23] <bazhang> @bansearch shadeslayer
[20:32] <ikonia> note shadeslayer in ##windows bragging about logging into peoples routers and rebooting them as he has now "learnt to hack"
[20:32] <genii> Hehe
[20:32] <bazhang> he is in #ubuntu also
[20:32] <ikonia> thats fine - it's just to be aware of his latest claims
[20:33] <ikonia> personally I don't belive them - and I'm not interested but I'm sure some of his questions in #ubuntu will end up leading towards "how do I hack" style questions
[20:33] <ikonia> just put it in here for context
[20:33] <bazhang> yep
[20:34] <bazhang> got to take a break, see you all in a while
[20:34] <ikonia> laters
[20:36] <Seeker`> o/
[20:39] <genii> ikonia: He was asking extensivle yonce about WEP cracking and got an earful
[20:39] <genii> Bleh typos
[20:40] <ikonia> genii: sorry, missed that, keep an eye on him, his questions in ##windows are leading to suggest his motives are not good
[20:48] <ikonia> shadeslayer just ctcp pinged some people in ##windows, then changed his nick to root_b to pretend it wasn't him
[20:48] <ikonia> denied doing it
[20:52] <genii> He's an idiot and annoying, I know
[20:53] <ikonia> I'm just logging it in here as I feel he's building up to something again
[20:53] <ikonia> this was his behaviour last time with the nick changes to bandodge/do things
[20:54] <ikonia> I know he reads the logs in here too "hi shadeslayer" just so he knows we are on to him and not to try anything 
[20:54]  * Gary is in a mood
[20:54] <ikonia> whats up?
[20:54] <Seeker`> whats wrong?
[20:54] <evilGary> I see dumb people
[20:56] <ikonia> it's been a week of it
[21:09] <genii> Whats this evil trend? Everyone in -offtopic went evil or so
[21:09] <ikonia> gary is a trend setter
[21:09] <genii> Hehe
[21:09] <Seeker`> thats scary isn't it
[21:09] <evilGary> hahaaa
[21:33] <LjL> again?
[21:33] <LjL> is this a freenode meme now?
[21:33] <Seeker`> i think its banworthy
[21:34] <ikonia> ?
[21:34] <ikonia> meme ?
[21:35] <Seeker`> youyou
[21:41] <evilGary> yaya
[21:41] <evilGary> Seeker`: banworthy?
[21:41] <LjL> jeje
[21:41] <evilGary> thats made of fail
[21:41] <LjL> like this
[21:41] <LjL> yeah yeah i know
[21:41] <Seeker`> exactly
[21:43] <Seeker`> LjL: :(
[21:43] <evilGary> aww, I failed at chanserv quieting myself
[21:43] <ikonia> I just failed
[21:43] <Seeker`> i just lost the game
[21:44] <ikonia> at least you where in the game
[21:46]  * LjL is always out of the games
[22:56] <Seeker`> eugh some people need to get a ****** clue
[22:57] <Seeker`> :O
[23:09] <Seeker`> etfb: how can we help you?
[23:10] <etfb> Is this the place to let an op know about some (minor) stupidity in the #ubuntu channel?  User name gift_ is making intermittant stupid comments there.
[23:10] <Seeker`> we'll look in to it
[23:10] <Seeker`> thanks
[23:11] <etfb> np
[23:11] <Seeker`> ikonia: ping
[23:15]  * Seeker` wonders where everyone has gone
[23:15] <evilGary> to the fair
[23:16] <Seeker`> ah, thats useful
[23:20] <Seeker`> we need ops that don't have a social life on fridays :P