| ara | good morning :-) | 07:05 |
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| mvo | sbeattie: thanks for finding the python bug | 08:07 |
| ara | mvo: which bug? (I am just curious) | 08:15 |
| mvo | https://launchpad.net/bugs/354228 | 08:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 354228 in python-central "package python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-1ubuntu8 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Triaged] | 08:24 |
| mvo | I disabled upgrades for now | 08:24 |
| mvo | it hits *everyone* | 08:24 |
| mvo | (well, every upgrade from intrepid->jaunty) | 08:25 |
| ara | mvo: ouch! | 08:39 |
| ara | morning jcollado, davmor2 | 08:40 |
| jcollado | ara: Buenos días | 08:40 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:40 |
| * mvo grumbles about python | 08:40 | |
| * davmor2 passes mvo his snake hitting hammer | 08:41 | |
| ara | thekorn: thanks for testing ubuntu-desktop-testing and all of the useful bug reports ;-) | 08:51 |
| thekorn | ara, no problem, I've some more ideas, so expect more bug reports over the weekend ;) | 08:54 |
| ara | thekorn: cool! | 08:54 |
| ara | thekorn: I will be on holidays next week, so expect little response from me until the following weekend ;-) | 08:55 |
| thekorn | ara, cool, have fun | 08:56 |
| davmor2 | ara: Have a nice time :) | 08:58 |
| ara | thekorn, davmor2: thanks! | 08:58 |
| thekorn | ara, so maybe it is time for me to ask just another question: are there plans to make ubuntu-desktop-testing and apport work together smoothly, e.g. what should happen if a testcase causes an application to crash | 09:01 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: When you get this any idea why the download script includes things like >>>>>>>>>merge <<<<<<<<<tree every time I update the master I get these and the script fails. It works if I delete them which is what I've been doing but I'm not sure if I'm meant to so I thought I'd bring it up while I remembered :) | 09:01 |
| ara | thekorn: we want ubuntu-desktop-testing to be integrated (sooner or later) to checkbox. And checkbox has plans to have apport hooks to report failures. | 09:04 |
| thekorn | ara, so the ubuntu-desktop-test script is not meant to be a standalone script in the long term | 09:08 |
| thekorn | ? | 09:08 |
| ara | thekorn: yes, we want to keep it standalone while we integrate with checkbox if wanted | 09:17 |
| thekorn | that's interesting | 09:20 |
| mvo | sbeattie: btw, for your upgrade tests, do you run them in real HW? in a vm? are you interessted in setting up a kvm based auto-upgrade tester? | 09:35 |
| mvo | sbeattie: and does the newt fix work for you (i.e. does update-manager-text not crash anymore?) | 09:35 |
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| davmor2 | mvo: update-manager -d isn't working on intrepid :( | 11:34 |
| ara | davmor2: that's expected | 11:35 |
| ara | davmor2: upgrades have been disabled due to a python bug | 11:36 |
| davmor2 | Meh | 11:36 |
| ara | davmor2: mvo just announced it in the -devel list | 11:37 |
| ara | davmor2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028039.html | 11:37 |
| davmor2 | ara: thanks :( | 11:37 |
| ara | davmor2: np | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | humph that's bugger that test up | 11:38 |
| mvo | davmor2: yes, sorry for that | 12:06 |
| davmor2 | mvo: Never mind hay | 12:07 |
| davmor2 | hey even | 12:07 |
| * ara reboots | 12:26 | |
| jtholmes | davmor2, ping | 12:31 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: Hello | 12:32 |
| jtholmes | good morning could you look at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Kate and see if it adheres to the rules for test cases | 12:32 |
| jtholmes | i put it up last night | 12:33 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: expected results was dropped and you need to add #endcases to the end of the case other wise it borks out the desktop test when it's added. Other than that looks good ara^ | 12:39 |
| davmor2 | ara: anything to add^ | 12:40 |
| * ara reads | 12:40 | |
| jtholmes | ah ok forgot that | 12:41 |
| ara | jtholmes: also, we are trying to keep the name of the page like the application menu name (i.e. we have Applications/TextEditor for gedit) | 12:44 |
| jtholmes | ok so noted | 12:44 |
| jtholmes | will do | 12:44 |
| ara | jtholmes: other than that (and davmor2's comments) it looks great. Thanks for contributing! | 12:45 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: you might want to add context highlighting to it also kmenu isn't called kmenu any more | 12:45 |
| jtholmes | davmor2 please elab on context highlighting and what is kmenu referred to Launcher? | 12:46 |
| jtholmes | elab=elaborate | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: right it you type in some basic html and then save it as test.html. reopen it the text should now be highlighted in different colours | 12:48 |
| jtholmes | ok i will try it | 12:49 |
| davmor2 | right need to go BBL | 12:50 |
| jtholmes | duh!! now I get it highlighting as in (the test case === Syntax Highlighting=== ) double duh | 13:09 |
| jtholmes | ara what is the new name for kmenu? | 13:20 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: kickoff | 14:18 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, thanks | 14:29 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: hrm, that's a merge conflict. Not sure why that's happening. | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: I only noticed it because it threw up a line 29 error trying to run it :) | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | line 29 expression error even | 14:48 |
| sbeattie | mvo: yes, live hardware and yes, I'm very interested in setting up an auto-upgrade tester. | 14:57 |
| * sbeattie is trying to wake up, feed his kids, resume conversations from last night, and prep for the release meeting in, uh, two minutes. | 14:58 | |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: Meh show off ;) | 15:01 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: it'd be showing off if I wasn't failing at all of it. :-/ | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | :) | 15:01 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: hrm, line 29 is (currently) the BASEURL, aka the rsync:// definition. If you hit it again while bzr updating, make a copy of the result and ping me. | 15:23 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: on the version I got it was >>>>>>>merge | 15:23 |
| davmor2 | Once I removed merge it was | 15:24 |
| sbeattie | right, there should >>>>>> and ======= and <<<<<<<< which separate your version from the bzr version. | 15:25 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: I am using bzr correctly aren't I. Currently I go into the master folder on my drive and type bzr pull is that correct? | 15:25 |
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| Aleksey_S | hello all | 17:36 |
| Aleksey_S | have someone problems with portaudio as i? | 17:40 |
| mvo | if someone could do a sru verification of bug #349725 - that would be most appreciated | 20:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 349725 in doc-base "8.04->9.04-beta updgrade: Could not install 'base-passwd'" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349725 | 20:02 |
| mvo | (should be *very* simple, just ensuring there are no regressions) | 20:02 |
| Aleksey_S | sru verification? | 20:03 |
| mvo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 20:04 |
| Ironic_V | Hey | 20:34 |
| Ironic_V | How can i join the tesing day ? | 20:35 |
| Ironic_V | testing* | 20:35 |
| sbeattie | mvo: I'll try to get to it later today. | 21:06 |
| mvo | thanks sbeattie | 21:08 |
| nagappan | cr3, ping | 21:39 |
| nagappan | cr3, while Ubuntu is booting, how can I see the booting console ? instead of splash screen ? | 21:39 |
| nagappan | pressing 'Esc' key doesn't help | 21:40 |
| cr3 | nagappan: edit the grub line, either at boot or in menu.lst, to remove the "splash" parameter | 21:41 |
| cr3 | nagappan: you might also like to remove "quiet" depending on the level of detail you're looking for | 21:41 |
| nagappan | cr3, after booting, I'm taken to initramfs prompt | 21:42 |
| nagappan | cr3, so I could not debug whats the issue | 21:42 |
| nagappan | cr3, also I forgot to tell you one thing, this was an image taken on slightly different hardware configuration, planing to deploy on new machine | 21:43 |
| nagappan | cr3, using Altiris | 21:43 |
| cr3 | nagappan: could the problem simply be a different uuid, as passed to grub? | 21:43 |
| nagappan | cr3, how to fix that ? | 21:44 |
| nagappan | cr3, I don't get a grub prompt at all | 21:44 |
| cr3 | nagappan: are you on a mac or something? if you're on pc, you must have grub unless you manually decided to go with lilo | 21:45 |
| cr3 | (by the way, I have no idea with this "altiris" is) | 21:45 |
| cr3 | according to wikipedia: Altiris Inc. is a subsidiary of Symantec | 21:45 |
| cr3 | doesn't sound promising... | 21:46 |
| nagappan | cr3, :D | 21:46 |
| cr3 | have you tried #symantec :) | 21:46 |
| nagappan | cr3, its grub loader, but I remember Ubuntu doesn't show the grub prompt at booting ? correct me, if I'm wrong | 21:46 |
| nagappan | cr3, ah ! no, does it exist ? | 21:46 |
| cr3 | nagappan: I'm kidding man, as if companies like Symatec or VMware would have any presence on irc... oh wait, VMware does: you! | 21:48 |
| cr3 | seriously though, you should be able to troubleshoot some from initramfs | 21:48 |
| cr3 | nagappan: so you're at the busybox prompt, right? | 21:48 |
| nagappan | cr3, right | 21:48 |
| cr3 | nagappan: is the drive(s) mounted? | 21:48 |
| nagappan | cr3, got the grub prompt | 21:49 |
| nagappan | cr3, how do I debug from here ? | 21:49 |
| nagappan | cr3, its Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic | 21:49 |
| cr3 | nagappan: dude, you're being confusing. first you said you had no grub. now you say you have grub. second I ask if you're at busybox. now you say you're at the grub prompt. | 21:49 |
| cr3 | how about we agree to take this one step at the time? | 21:49 |
| nagappan | cr3, sorry, I rebooted the machine and got the grub prompt | 21:50 |
| cr3 | nagappan: ok, lets start troubleshooting from grub then. type 'e', I think, to edit the first grub line which used to work | 21:51 |
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| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:51 |
| nagappan | cr3, I'm in line kernel .... | 21:51 |
| cr3 | nagappan: then, you should see a line like: root=UUID=[some alphanum] | 21:51 |
| cr3 | nagappan: I'm quite sure the UUID is the problem, so we'll proceed based on that assumption if you don't mind | 21:52 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:52 |
| cr3 | nagappan: so, take down that UUID number so that we can confirm from busybox that it's right or wrong | 21:52 |
| nagappan | cr3, yes I could notice the alphanumeric one | 21:52 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:52 |
| cr3 | nagappan: you could basically just take down a few of the first or last characters, just to confirm it's the same or not | 21:52 |
| cr3 | nagappan: you won't need to type that uuid | 21:53 |
| nagappan | cr3, noted down the complete one | 21:53 |
| nagappan | cr3, just incase :) | 21:54 |
| cr3 | nagappan: then, either boot from a live cd or into busybox again (I think that will have enough tools to fix the problem) | 21:54 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:54 |
| cr3 | nagappan: let me know when you're at a prompt | 21:55 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:55 |
| nagappan | cr3, its taking more time to boot, now booted with out quiet and splash option | 21:56 |
| nagappan | waiting after attaching scsi generic drive | 21:57 |
| cr3 | nagappan: first thing you'll want to do is either check that your drive is already mounted (df) otherwise try to mount it somewhere (mkdir /mnt; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt) | 21:57 |
| nagappan | virtual disc 2 | 21:57 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 21:57 |
| nagappan | cr3, the error message before shell was | 21:58 |
| nagappan | cr3, /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist | 21:58 |
| cr3 | nagappan: that sucks, because that's precisely what I was going to ask you to ls -l :) | 21:58 |
| cr3 | nagappan: I presume that your drive wasn't automatically mounted then? | 21:59 |
| nagappan | cr3, automatically mounted ? | 22:00 |
| nagappan | cr3, I don't get that | 22:00 |
| nagappan | cr3, oh ya | 22:00 |
| nagappan | cr3, now, mounted manually | 22:00 |
| cr3 | nagappan: excellent, was /dev/disk/by-uuid created and, if so, could you should me the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid | 22:01 |
| cr3 | s/should/show/ | 22:01 |
| nagappan | cr3, it shows 2 diff uuid, one is for sda1 and second for sda5 | 22:02 |
| nagappan | cr3, sda5 I swap I guess | 22:02 |
| nagappan | cr3, yes I'm right, its swap | 22:02 |
| cr3 | nagappan: does the uuid for sda1 correspond to the value you saved earlier? | 22:02 |
| nagappan | cr3, no | 22:03 |
| cr3 | nagappan: you found your problem then! so, you can either take down the new uuid and replace it in grub everytime you boot | 22:04 |
| cr3 | nagappan: or, since your drive is already mounted, you can edit boot/grub/menu.lst and replace every instance of the old value with the new value | 22:04 |
| nagappan | cr3, ok | 22:04 |
| cr3 | nagappan: reboot and you should be fine | 22:04 |
| nagappan | cr3, cool, also I need to modify /etc/fstab ? | 22:04 |
| cr3 | nagappan: by the way, there might be an easier way to do this, I've given you the low level tour | 22:04 |
| cr3 | nagappan: oh right, might as well edit that too :) | 22:05 |
| nagappan | cr3, ok | 22:05 |
| cr3 | nagappan: if you're lazy and if busybox comes with gnu sed, you could do: sed -i 's/[old uuid]/[new uuid]/' /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst | 22:06 |
| nagappan | cr3, would like to hear the easier way | 22:06 |
| cr3 | nagappan: where the variables in brackets should be replaced accordingly, of course :) | 22:06 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 22:06 |
| nagappan | cr3, I don't have an option to edit the file directly | 22:06 |
| nagappan | cr3, no edit / vi | 22:06 |
| cr3 | nagappan: how come? nano should be available | 22:06 |
| nagappan | cr3, nano is also not there | 22:07 |
| cr3 | nagappan: yeah, I've been disappointed on numerous occasions that vi wasn't available | 22:07 |
| cr3 | ed perhaps? :) | 22:07 |
| cr3 | nagappan: aha! you know, you could chroot /mnt :) | 22:07 |
| cr3 | nagappan: then, assuming your PATH environment variable is sane, you could use vi or whatever from the mounted filesystem :) | 22:08 |
| nagappan | cr3, no ed | 22:08 |
| nagappan | cr3, cool, let me try | 22:09 |
| cr3 | no ed! seriously though, I wouldn't subject ed even to the most seasoned solaris sysadmin | 22:09 |
| nagappan | cr3, I get some error message, when I do chroot 'sh: no job control in this shell' | 22:09 |
| nagappan | cr3, wow ! I can use the editor though | 22:10 |
| nagappan | cr3, let me try editing the file | 22:10 |
| cr3 | nagappan: that error message rings a bell, did you use the su command? | 22:12 |
| cr3 | not a big deal though, if you can edit your files, I guess that's the important part | 22:13 |
| nagappan | cr3, I haven't used su | 22:13 |
| nagappan | cr3, anyways, I have edited the file | 22:14 |
| nagappan | cr3, the swap file UUID haven't changed | 22:14 |
| nagappan | cr3, am I missing something here ? or its ok ? | 22:14 |
| cr3 | nagappan: excellent, now try rebooting and cross your fingers (that's the important part) | 22:14 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 22:14 |
| * nagappan rebooting | 22:14 | |
| cr3 | nagappan: might as well try, we could always revise if we find we missed something | 22:14 |
| nagappan | cr3, sure | 22:15 |
| Adri2000 | hi | 22:16 |
| nagappan | cr3, wow ! it booted :D | 22:16 |
| nagappan | cr3, unbelievable :D | 22:16 |
| cr3 | nagappan: rock and roll! | 22:16 |
| nagappan | cr3, thanks a lot !!! | 22:16 |
| Adri2000 | hmm I wanted #ubuntu+1 actually :p | 22:16 |
| cr3 | nagappan: no problem man. hopefully, you won't have to do this too often :) | 22:17 |
| nagappan | cr3, I will create a new image of it :) | 22:17 |
| nagappan | cr3, using Altiris | 22:17 |
| cr3 | and I think I'm going to reimage a cigarette... | 22:18 |
| nagappan | cr3, :D | 22:18 |
| nagappan | cr3, oops on reboot It again struck there ! | 22:19 |
| nagappan | cr3, let me figure it out, what the issue is | 22:19 |
| nagappan | cr3, is there an alternate method without uuid !?! | 22:20 |
| cr3 | nagappan: if you're just going to have a single drive in there, you could safely replace the whole uuid thing with the actual device: root=/dev/sda[number] | 22:32 |
| cr3 | nagappan: did you run an update or something? | 22:33 |
| nagappan | cr3, no, currently running the update | 22:34 |
| nagappan | cr3, we will always have single drive for the automated testing | 22:34 |
| cr3 | nagappan: I suspect the reason why rebooting broke everything is that you might not have substituted all instances of your old uuid in the menu.lst file. for example, I bet you didn't change: # kopt=root=UUID=... | 22:35 |
| nagappan | cr3, true, the uuid, have changed now than the last boot | 22:36 |
| nagappan | cr3, that surprised me :) | 22:36 |
| nagappan | cr3, after the update, let me try rebooting, once again | 22:36 |
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| sbeattie | nagappan: is this scsi or some other hardware that might likely have a long timeout before the disks get detected? You might see if adding "rootdelay=90" to your kernel boot line works (I've got a machine here that does that). | 23:03 |
| nagappan | sbeattie, its ide drive | 23:09 |
| sbeattie | nagappan: hrm. Might still be worth trying rootdelay=90 to see if it's a slow-to-detect disks situation. | 23:10 |
| nagappan | sbeattie, based on cr3 suggestion, I have modified to /dev/sda1 instead of using uuid, now things are working fine :) | 23:10 |
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