[07:05] <ara> good morning :-)
[08:07] <mvo> sbeattie: thanks for finding the python bug
[08:15] <ara> mvo: which bug? (I am just curious)
[08:24] <mvo> https://launchpad.net/bugs/354228
[08:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 354228 in python-central "package python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-1ubuntu8 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Triaged]
[08:24] <mvo> I disabled upgrades for now
[08:24] <mvo> it hits *everyone*
[08:25] <mvo> (well, every upgrade from intrepid->jaunty)
[08:39] <ara> mvo: ouch!
[08:40] <ara> morning jcollado, davmor2
[08:40] <jcollado> ara: Buenos días
[08:40] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:40]  * mvo grumbles about python
[08:41]  * davmor2 passes mvo his snake hitting hammer 
[08:51] <ara> thekorn: thanks for testing ubuntu-desktop-testing and all of the useful bug reports ;-)
[08:54] <thekorn> ara, no problem, I've some more ideas, so expect more bug reports over the weekend ;)
[08:54] <ara> thekorn: cool!
[08:55] <ara> thekorn: I will be on holidays next week, so expect little response from me until the following weekend ;-)
[08:56] <thekorn> ara, cool, have fun
[08:58] <davmor2> ara: Have a nice time :)
[08:58] <ara> thekorn, davmor2: thanks!
[09:01] <thekorn> ara, so maybe it is time for me to ask just another question: are there plans to make ubuntu-desktop-testing and apport work together smoothly, e.g. what should happen if a testcase causes an application to crash
[09:01] <davmor2> sbeattie: When you get this any idea why the download script includes things like >>>>>>>>>merge <<<<<<<<<tree  every time I update the master I get these and the script fails.  It works if I delete them which is what I've been doing but I'm not sure if I'm meant to so I thought I'd bring it up while I remembered :)
[09:04] <ara> thekorn: we want ubuntu-desktop-testing to be integrated (sooner or later) to checkbox. And checkbox has plans to have apport hooks to report failures.
[09:08] <thekorn> ara, so the ubuntu-desktop-test script is not meant to be a standalone script in the long term
[09:08] <thekorn> ?
[09:17] <ara> thekorn: yes, we want to keep it standalone while we integrate with checkbox if wanted
[09:20] <thekorn> that's interesting
[09:35] <mvo> sbeattie: btw, for your upgrade tests, do you run them in real HW? in a vm? are you interessted in setting up a kvm based auto-upgrade tester?
[09:35] <mvo> sbeattie: and does the newt fix work for you (i.e. does update-manager-text not crash anymore?)
[11:34] <davmor2> mvo: update-manager -d isn't working on intrepid :(
[11:35] <ara> davmor2: that's expected
[11:36] <ara> davmor2: upgrades have been disabled due to a python bug
[11:36] <davmor2> Meh
[11:37] <ara> davmor2: mvo just announced it in the -devel list
[11:37] <ara> davmor2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028039.html
[11:37] <davmor2> ara: thanks :(
[11:38] <ara> davmor2: np
[11:38] <davmor2> humph that's bugger that test up
[12:06] <mvo> davmor2: yes, sorry for that
[12:07] <davmor2> mvo: Never mind hay
[12:07] <davmor2> hey even
[12:26]  * ara reboots
[12:31] <jtholmes> davmor2, ping
[12:32] <davmor2> jtholmes: Hello
[12:32] <jtholmes> good morning could you look at  http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Kate  and see if it adheres to the rules for test cases
[12:33] <jtholmes> i put it up last night
[12:39] <davmor2> jtholmes: expected results was dropped and you need to add #endcases to the end of the case other wise it borks out the desktop test when it's added.  Other than that looks good ara^
[12:40] <davmor2> ara: anything to add^
[12:40]  * ara reads
[12:41] <jtholmes> ah ok forgot that
[12:44] <ara> jtholmes: also, we are trying to keep the name of the page like the application menu name (i.e. we have Applications/TextEditor for gedit)
[12:44] <jtholmes> ok so noted
[12:44] <jtholmes> will do
[12:45] <ara> jtholmes: other than that (and davmor2's comments) it looks great. Thanks for contributing!
[12:45] <davmor2> jtholmes: you might want to add context highlighting to it also kmenu isn't called kmenu any more
[12:46] <jtholmes> davmor2 please elab on context highlighting and what is kmenu referred to  Launcher?
[12:48] <jtholmes> elab=elaborate
[12:48] <davmor2> jtholmes: right it you type in some basic html and then save it as test.html.  reopen it the text should now be highlighted in different colours
[12:49] <jtholmes> ok i will try it
[12:50] <davmor2> right need to go BBL
[13:09] <jtholmes> duh!! now I get it  highlighting as in (the  test case [13:20] <jtholmes> ara what is the new name for kmenu?
[14:18] <davmor2> jtholmes: kickoff
[14:29] <jtholmes> davmor2, thanks
[14:47] <sbeattie> davmor2: hrm, that's a merge conflict. Not sure why that's happening.
[14:48] <davmor2> sbeattie: I only noticed it because it threw up a line 29 error trying to run it :)
[14:48] <davmor2> line 29 expression error even
[14:57] <sbeattie> mvo: yes, live hardware and yes, I'm very interested in setting up an auto-upgrade tester.
[14:58]  * sbeattie is trying to wake up, feed his kids, resume conversations from last night, and prep for the release meeting in, uh, two minutes.
[15:01] <davmor2> sbeattie: Meh show off ;)
[15:01] <sbeattie> davmor2: it'd be showing off if I wasn't failing at all of it. :-/
[15:01] <davmor2> :)
[15:23] <sbeattie> davmor2: hrm, line 29 is (currently) the BASEURL, aka the rsync:// definition. If you hit it again while bzr updating, make a copy of the result and ping me.
[15:23] <davmor2> sbeattie: on the version I got it was >>>>>>>merge
[15:24] <davmor2> Once I removed merge it was
[15:25] <sbeattie> right, there should >>>>>> and [15:25] <davmor2> sbeattie: I am using bzr correctly aren't I.  Currently I go into the master folder on my drive and type bzr pull is that correct?
[17:36] <Aleksey_S> hello all
[17:40] <Aleksey_S> have someone problems with portaudio as i?
[20:02] <mvo> if someone could do a sru verification of bug #349725 - that would be most appreciated
[20:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 349725 in doc-base "8.04->9.04-beta updgrade: Could not install 'base-passwd'" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349725
[20:02] <mvo> (should be *very* simple, just ensuring there are no regressions)
[20:03] <Aleksey_S> sru verification?
[20:04] <mvo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[20:34] <Ironic_V> Hey
[20:35] <Ironic_V> How can i join the tesing day ?
[20:35] <Ironic_V> testing*
[21:06] <sbeattie> mvo: I'll try to get to it later today.
[21:08] <mvo> thanks sbeattie
[21:39] <nagappan> cr3, ping
[21:39] <nagappan> cr3, while Ubuntu is booting, how can I see the booting console ? instead of splash screen ?
[21:40] <nagappan> pressing 'Esc' key doesn't help
[21:41] <cr3> nagappan: edit the grub line, either at boot or in menu.lst, to remove the "splash" parameter
[21:41] <cr3> nagappan: you might also like to remove "quiet" depending on the level of detail you're looking for
[21:42] <nagappan> cr3, after booting, I'm taken to initramfs prompt
[21:42] <nagappan> cr3, so I could not debug whats the issue
[21:43] <nagappan> cr3, also I forgot to tell you one thing, this was an image taken on slightly different hardware configuration, planing to deploy on new machine
[21:43] <nagappan> cr3, using Altiris
[21:43] <cr3> nagappan: could the problem simply be a different uuid, as passed to grub?
[21:44] <nagappan> cr3, how to fix that ?
[21:44] <nagappan> cr3, I don't get a grub prompt at all
[21:45] <cr3> nagappan: are you on a mac or something? if you're on pc, you must have grub unless you manually decided to go with lilo
[21:45] <cr3> (by the way, I have no idea with this "altiris" is)
[21:45] <cr3> according to wikipedia: Altiris Inc. is a subsidiary of Symantec
[21:46] <cr3> doesn't sound promising...
[21:46] <nagappan> cr3, :D
[21:46] <cr3> have you tried #symantec :)
[21:46] <nagappan> cr3, its grub loader, but I remember Ubuntu doesn't show the grub prompt at booting ? correct me, if I'm wrong
[21:46] <nagappan> cr3, ah ! no, does it exist ?
[21:48] <cr3> nagappan: I'm kidding man, as if companies like Symatec or VMware would have any presence on irc... oh wait, VMware does: you!
[21:48] <cr3> seriously though, you should be able to troubleshoot some from initramfs
[21:48] <cr3> nagappan: so you're at the busybox prompt, right?
[21:48] <nagappan> cr3, right
[21:48] <cr3> nagappan: is the drive(s) mounted?
[21:49] <nagappan> cr3, got the grub prompt
[21:49] <nagappan> cr3, how do I debug from here ?
[21:49] <nagappan> cr3, its Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[21:49] <cr3> nagappan: dude, you're being confusing. first you said you had no grub. now you say you have grub. second I ask if you're at busybox. now you say you're at the grub prompt.
[21:49] <cr3> how about we agree to take this one step at the time?
[21:50] <nagappan> cr3, sorry, I rebooted the machine and got the grub prompt
[21:51] <cr3> nagappan: ok, lets start troubleshooting from grub then. type 'e', I think, to edit the first grub line which used to work
[21:51] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:51] <nagappan> cr3, I'm in line kernel ....
[21:51] <cr3> nagappan: then, you should see a line like: root=UUID=[some alphanum]
[21:52] <cr3> nagappan: I'm quite sure the UUID is the problem, so we'll proceed based on that assumption if you don't mind
[21:52] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:52] <cr3> nagappan: so, take down that UUID number so that we can confirm from busybox that it's right or wrong
[21:52] <nagappan> cr3, yes I could notice the alphanumeric one
[21:52] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:52] <cr3> nagappan: you could basically just take down a few of the first or last characters, just to confirm it's the same or not
[21:53] <cr3> nagappan: you won't need to type that uuid
[21:53] <nagappan> cr3, noted down the complete one
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, just incase :)
[21:54] <cr3> nagappan: then, either boot from a live cd or into busybox again (I think that will have enough tools to fix the problem)
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:55] <cr3> nagappan: let me know when you're at a prompt
[21:55] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:56] <nagappan> cr3, its taking more time to boot, now booted with out quiet and splash option
[21:57] <nagappan> waiting after attaching scsi generic drive
[21:57] <cr3> nagappan: first thing you'll want to do is either check that your drive is already mounted (df) otherwise try to mount it somewhere (mkdir /mnt; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt)
[21:57] <nagappan> virtual disc 2
[21:57] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[21:58] <nagappan> cr3, the error message before shell was
[21:58] <nagappan> cr3, /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist
[21:58] <cr3> nagappan: that sucks, because that's precisely what I was going to ask you to ls -l :)
[21:59] <cr3> nagappan: I presume that your drive wasn't automatically mounted then?
[22:00] <nagappan> cr3, automatically mounted ?
[22:00] <nagappan> cr3, I don't get that
[22:00] <nagappan> cr3, oh ya
[22:00] <nagappan> cr3, now, mounted manually
[22:01] <cr3> nagappan: excellent, was /dev/disk/by-uuid created and, if so, could you should me the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[22:01] <cr3> s/should/show/
[22:02] <nagappan> cr3, it shows 2 diff uuid, one is for sda1 and second for sda5
[22:02] <nagappan> cr3, sda5 I swap I guess
[22:02] <nagappan> cr3, yes I'm right, its swap
[22:02] <cr3> nagappan: does the uuid for sda1 correspond to the value you saved earlier?
[22:03] <nagappan> cr3, no
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: you found your problem then! so, you can either take down the new uuid and replace it in grub everytime you boot
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: or, since your drive is already mounted, you can edit boot/grub/menu.lst and replace every instance of the old value with the new value
[22:04] <nagappan> cr3, ok
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: reboot and you should be fine
[22:04] <nagappan> cr3, cool, also I need to modify /etc/fstab ?
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: by the way, there might be an easier way to do this, I've given you the low level tour
[22:05] <cr3> nagappan: oh right, might as well edit that too :)
[22:05] <nagappan> cr3, ok
[22:06] <cr3> nagappan: if you're lazy and if busybox comes with gnu sed, you could do: sed -i 's/[old uuid]/[new uuid]/' /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:06] <nagappan> cr3, would like to hear the easier way
[22:06] <cr3> nagappan: where the variables in brackets should be replaced accordingly, of course :)
[22:06] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[22:06] <nagappan> cr3, I don't have an option to edit the file directly
[22:06] <nagappan> cr3, no edit / vi
[22:06] <cr3> nagappan: how come? nano should be available
[22:07] <nagappan> cr3, nano is also not there
[22:07] <cr3> nagappan: yeah, I've been disappointed on numerous occasions that vi wasn't available
[22:07] <cr3> ed perhaps? :)
[22:07] <cr3> nagappan: aha! you know, you could chroot /mnt :)
[22:08] <cr3> nagappan: then, assuming your PATH environment variable is sane, you could use vi or whatever from the mounted filesystem :)
[22:08] <nagappan> cr3, no ed
[22:09] <nagappan> cr3, cool, let me try
[22:09] <cr3> no ed! seriously though, I wouldn't subject ed even to the most seasoned solaris sysadmin
[22:09] <nagappan> cr3, I get some error message, when I do chroot 'sh: no job control in this shell'
[22:10] <nagappan> cr3, wow ! I can use the editor though
[22:10] <nagappan> cr3, let me try editing the file
[22:12] <cr3> nagappan: that error message rings a bell, did you use the su command?
[22:13] <cr3> not a big deal though, if you can edit your files, I guess that's the important part
[22:13] <nagappan> cr3, I haven't used su
[22:14] <nagappan> cr3, anyways, I have edited the file
[22:14] <nagappan> cr3, the swap file UUID haven't changed
[22:14] <nagappan> cr3, am I missing something here ? or its ok ?
[22:14] <cr3> nagappan: excellent, now try rebooting and cross your fingers (that's the important part)
[22:14] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[22:14]  * nagappan rebooting
[22:14] <cr3> nagappan: might as well try, we could always revise if we find we missed something
[22:15] <nagappan> cr3, sure
[22:16] <Adri2000> hi
[22:16] <nagappan> cr3, wow ! it booted :D
[22:16] <nagappan> cr3, unbelievable :D
[22:16] <cr3> nagappan: rock and roll!
[22:16] <nagappan> cr3, thanks a lot !!!
[22:16] <Adri2000> hmm I wanted #ubuntu+1 actually :p
[22:17] <cr3> nagappan: no problem man. hopefully, you won't have to do this too often :)
[22:17] <nagappan> cr3, I will create a new image of it :)
[22:17] <nagappan> cr3, using Altiris
[22:18] <cr3> and I think I'm going to reimage a cigarette...
[22:18] <nagappan> cr3, :D
[22:19] <nagappan> cr3, oops on reboot It again struck there !
[22:19] <nagappan> cr3, let me figure it out, what the issue is
[22:20] <nagappan> cr3, is there an alternate method without uuid !?!
[22:32] <cr3> nagappan: if you're just going to have a single drive in there, you could safely replace the whole uuid thing with the actual device: root=/dev/sda[number]
[22:33] <cr3> nagappan: did you run an update or something?
[22:34] <nagappan> cr3, no, currently running the update
[22:34] <nagappan> cr3, we will always have single drive for the automated testing
[22:35] <cr3> nagappan: I suspect the reason why rebooting broke everything is that you might not have substituted all instances of your old uuid in the menu.lst file. for example, I bet you didn't change: # kopt=root=UUID=...
[22:36] <nagappan> cr3, true, the uuid, have changed now than the last boot
[22:36] <nagappan> cr3, that surprised me :)
[22:36] <nagappan> cr3, after the update, let me try rebooting, once again
[23:03] <sbeattie> nagappan: is this scsi or some other hardware that might likely have a long timeout before the disks get detected? You might see if adding "rootdelay=90" to your kernel boot line works (I've got a machine here that does that).
[23:09] <nagappan> sbeattie, its ide drive
[23:10] <sbeattie> nagappan: hrm. Might still be worth trying rootdelay=90 to see if it's a slow-to-detect disks situation.
[23:10] <nagappan> sbeattie, based on cr3 suggestion, I have modified to /dev/sda1 instead of using uuid, now things are working fine :)