[07:05] good morning :-) [08:07] sbeattie: thanks for finding the python bug [08:15] mvo: which bug? (I am just curious) [08:24] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354228 [08:24] Launchpad bug 354228 in python-central "package python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-1ubuntu8 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Triaged] [08:24] I disabled upgrades for now [08:24] it hits *everyone* [08:25] (well, every upgrade from intrepid->jaunty) [08:39] mvo: ouch! [08:40] morning jcollado, davmor2 [08:40] ara: Buenos días [08:40] Morning all [08:40] * mvo grumbles about python [08:41] * davmor2 passes mvo his snake hitting hammer [08:51] thekorn: thanks for testing ubuntu-desktop-testing and all of the useful bug reports ;-) [08:54] ara, no problem, I've some more ideas, so expect more bug reports over the weekend ;) [08:54] thekorn: cool! [08:55] thekorn: I will be on holidays next week, so expect little response from me until the following weekend ;-) [08:56] ara, cool, have fun [08:58] ara: Have a nice time :) [08:58] thekorn, davmor2: thanks! [09:01] ara, so maybe it is time for me to ask just another question: are there plans to make ubuntu-desktop-testing and apport work together smoothly, e.g. what should happen if a testcase causes an application to crash [09:01] sbeattie: When you get this any idea why the download script includes things like >>>>>>>>>merge <<<<<<<< thekorn: we want ubuntu-desktop-testing to be integrated (sooner or later) to checkbox. And checkbox has plans to have apport hooks to report failures. [09:08] ara, so the ubuntu-desktop-test script is not meant to be a standalone script in the long term [09:08] ? [09:17] thekorn: yes, we want to keep it standalone while we integrate with checkbox if wanted [09:20] that's interesting [09:35] sbeattie: btw, for your upgrade tests, do you run them in real HW? in a vm? are you interessted in setting up a kvm based auto-upgrade tester? [09:35] sbeattie: and does the newt fix work for you (i.e. does update-manager-text not crash anymore?) === asac_ is now known as asac [11:34] mvo: update-manager -d isn't working on intrepid :( [11:35] davmor2: that's expected [11:36] davmor2: upgrades have been disabled due to a python bug [11:36] Meh [11:37] davmor2: mvo just announced it in the -devel list [11:37] davmor2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/028039.html [11:37] ara: thanks :( [11:38] davmor2: np [11:38] humph that's bugger that test up [12:06] davmor2: yes, sorry for that [12:07] mvo: Never mind hay [12:07] hey even [12:26] * ara reboots [12:31] davmor2, ping [12:32] jtholmes: Hello [12:32] good morning could you look at http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/Kate and see if it adheres to the rules for test cases [12:33] i put it up last night [12:39] jtholmes: expected results was dropped and you need to add #endcases to the end of the case other wise it borks out the desktop test when it's added. Other than that looks good ara^ [12:40] ara: anything to add^ [12:40] * ara reads [12:41] ah ok forgot that [12:44] jtholmes: also, we are trying to keep the name of the page like the application menu name (i.e. we have Applications/TextEditor for gedit) [12:44] ok so noted [12:44] will do [12:45] jtholmes: other than that (and davmor2's comments) it looks great. Thanks for contributing! [12:45] jtholmes: you might want to add context highlighting to it also kmenu isn't called kmenu any more [12:46] davmor2 please elab on context highlighting and what is kmenu referred to Launcher? [12:48] elab=elaborate [12:48] jtholmes: right it you type in some basic html and then save it as test.html. reopen it the text should now be highlighted in different colours [12:49] ok i will try it [12:50] right need to go BBL [13:09] duh!! now I get it highlighting as in (the test case === Syntax Highlighting=== ) double duh [13:20] ara what is the new name for kmenu? [14:18] jtholmes: kickoff [14:29] davmor2, thanks [14:47] davmor2: hrm, that's a merge conflict. Not sure why that's happening. [14:48] sbeattie: I only noticed it because it threw up a line 29 error trying to run it :) [14:48] line 29 expression error even [14:57] mvo: yes, live hardware and yes, I'm very interested in setting up an auto-upgrade tester. [14:58] * sbeattie is trying to wake up, feed his kids, resume conversations from last night, and prep for the release meeting in, uh, two minutes. [15:01] sbeattie: Meh show off ;) [15:01] davmor2: it'd be showing off if I wasn't failing at all of it. :-/ [15:01] :) [15:23] davmor2: hrm, line 29 is (currently) the BASEURL, aka the rsync:// definition. If you hit it again while bzr updating, make a copy of the result and ping me. [15:23] sbeattie: on the version I got it was >>>>>>>merge [15:24] Once I removed merge it was [15:25] right, there should >>>>>> and ======= and <<<<<<<< which separate your version from the bzr version. [15:25] sbeattie: I am using bzr correctly aren't I. Currently I go into the master folder on my drive and type bzr pull is that correct? === eeejay_afk is now known as eeejay === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [17:36] hello all [17:40] have someone problems with portaudio as i? [20:02] if someone could do a sru verification of bug #349725 - that would be most appreciated [20:02] Launchpad bug 349725 in doc-base "8.04->9.04-beta updgrade: Could not install 'base-passwd'" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349725 [20:02] (should be *very* simple, just ensuring there are no regressions) [20:03] sru verification? [20:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [20:34] Hey [20:35] How can i join the tesing day ? [20:35] testing* [21:06] mvo: I'll try to get to it later today. [21:08] thanks sbeattie [21:39] cr3, ping [21:39] cr3, while Ubuntu is booting, how can I see the booting console ? instead of splash screen ? [21:40] pressing 'Esc' key doesn't help [21:41] nagappan: edit the grub line, either at boot or in menu.lst, to remove the "splash" parameter [21:41] nagappan: you might also like to remove "quiet" depending on the level of detail you're looking for [21:42] cr3, after booting, I'm taken to initramfs prompt [21:42] cr3, so I could not debug whats the issue [21:43] cr3, also I forgot to tell you one thing, this was an image taken on slightly different hardware configuration, planing to deploy on new machine [21:43] cr3, using Altiris [21:43] nagappan: could the problem simply be a different uuid, as passed to grub? [21:44] cr3, how to fix that ? [21:44] cr3, I don't get a grub prompt at all [21:45] nagappan: are you on a mac or something? if you're on pc, you must have grub unless you manually decided to go with lilo [21:45] (by the way, I have no idea with this "altiris" is) [21:45] according to wikipedia: Altiris Inc. is a subsidiary of Symantec [21:46] doesn't sound promising... [21:46] cr3, :D [21:46] have you tried #symantec :) [21:46] cr3, its grub loader, but I remember Ubuntu doesn't show the grub prompt at booting ? correct me, if I'm wrong [21:46] cr3, ah ! no, does it exist ? [21:48] nagappan: I'm kidding man, as if companies like Symatec or VMware would have any presence on irc... oh wait, VMware does: you! [21:48] seriously though, you should be able to troubleshoot some from initramfs [21:48] nagappan: so you're at the busybox prompt, right? [21:48] cr3, right [21:48] nagappan: is the drive(s) mounted? [21:49] cr3, got the grub prompt [21:49] cr3, how do I debug from here ? [21:49] cr3, its Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic [21:49] nagappan: dude, you're being confusing. first you said you had no grub. now you say you have grub. second I ask if you're at busybox. now you say you're at the grub prompt. [21:49] how about we agree to take this one step at the time? [21:50] cr3, sorry, I rebooted the machine and got the grub prompt [21:51] nagappan: ok, lets start troubleshooting from grub then. type 'e', I think, to edit the first grub line which used to work === corge is now known as fdd [21:51] cr3, sure [21:51] cr3, I'm in line kernel .... [21:51] nagappan: then, you should see a line like: root=UUID=[some alphanum] [21:52] nagappan: I'm quite sure the UUID is the problem, so we'll proceed based on that assumption if you don't mind [21:52] cr3, sure [21:52] nagappan: so, take down that UUID number so that we can confirm from busybox that it's right or wrong [21:52] cr3, yes I could notice the alphanumeric one [21:52] cr3, sure [21:52] nagappan: you could basically just take down a few of the first or last characters, just to confirm it's the same or not [21:53] nagappan: you won't need to type that uuid [21:53] cr3, noted down the complete one [21:54] cr3, just incase :) [21:54] nagappan: then, either boot from a live cd or into busybox again (I think that will have enough tools to fix the problem) [21:54] cr3, sure [21:55] nagappan: let me know when you're at a prompt [21:55] cr3, sure [21:56] cr3, its taking more time to boot, now booted with out quiet and splash option [21:57] waiting after attaching scsi generic drive [21:57] nagappan: first thing you'll want to do is either check that your drive is already mounted (df) otherwise try to mount it somewhere (mkdir /mnt; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt) [21:57] virtual disc 2 [21:57] cr3, sure [21:58] cr3, the error message before shell was [21:58] cr3, /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist [21:58] nagappan: that sucks, because that's precisely what I was going to ask you to ls -l :) [21:59] nagappan: I presume that your drive wasn't automatically mounted then? [22:00] cr3, automatically mounted ? [22:00] cr3, I don't get that [22:00] cr3, oh ya [22:00] cr3, now, mounted manually [22:01] nagappan: excellent, was /dev/disk/by-uuid created and, if so, could you should me the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid [22:01] s/should/show/ [22:02] cr3, it shows 2 diff uuid, one is for sda1 and second for sda5 [22:02] cr3, sda5 I swap I guess [22:02] cr3, yes I'm right, its swap [22:02] nagappan: does the uuid for sda1 correspond to the value you saved earlier? [22:03] cr3, no [22:04] nagappan: you found your problem then! so, you can either take down the new uuid and replace it in grub everytime you boot [22:04] nagappan: or, since your drive is already mounted, you can edit boot/grub/menu.lst and replace every instance of the old value with the new value [22:04] cr3, ok [22:04] nagappan: reboot and you should be fine [22:04] cr3, cool, also I need to modify /etc/fstab ? [22:04] nagappan: by the way, there might be an easier way to do this, I've given you the low level tour [22:05] nagappan: oh right, might as well edit that too :) [22:05] cr3, ok [22:06] nagappan: if you're lazy and if busybox comes with gnu sed, you could do: sed -i 's/[old uuid]/[new uuid]/' /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst [22:06] cr3, would like to hear the easier way [22:06] nagappan: where the variables in brackets should be replaced accordingly, of course :) [22:06] cr3, sure [22:06] cr3, I don't have an option to edit the file directly [22:06] cr3, no edit / vi [22:06] nagappan: how come? nano should be available [22:07] cr3, nano is also not there [22:07] nagappan: yeah, I've been disappointed on numerous occasions that vi wasn't available [22:07] ed perhaps? :) [22:07] nagappan: aha! you know, you could chroot /mnt :) [22:08] nagappan: then, assuming your PATH environment variable is sane, you could use vi or whatever from the mounted filesystem :) [22:08] cr3, no ed [22:09] cr3, cool, let me try [22:09] no ed! seriously though, I wouldn't subject ed even to the most seasoned solaris sysadmin [22:09] cr3, I get some error message, when I do chroot 'sh: no job control in this shell' [22:10] cr3, wow ! I can use the editor though [22:10] cr3, let me try editing the file [22:12] nagappan: that error message rings a bell, did you use the su command? [22:13] not a big deal though, if you can edit your files, I guess that's the important part [22:13] cr3, I haven't used su [22:14] cr3, anyways, I have edited the file [22:14] cr3, the swap file UUID haven't changed [22:14] cr3, am I missing something here ? or its ok ? [22:14] nagappan: excellent, now try rebooting and cross your fingers (that's the important part) [22:14] cr3, sure [22:14] * nagappan rebooting [22:14] nagappan: might as well try, we could always revise if we find we missed something [22:15] cr3, sure [22:16] hi [22:16] cr3, wow ! it booted :D [22:16] cr3, unbelievable :D [22:16] nagappan: rock and roll! [22:16] cr3, thanks a lot !!! [22:16] hmm I wanted #ubuntu+1 actually :p [22:17] nagappan: no problem man. hopefully, you won't have to do this too often :) [22:17] cr3, I will create a new image of it :) [22:17] cr3, using Altiris [22:18] and I think I'm going to reimage a cigarette... [22:18] cr3, :D [22:19] cr3, oops on reboot It again struck there ! [22:19] cr3, let me figure it out, what the issue is [22:20] cr3, is there an alternate method without uuid !?! [22:32] nagappan: if you're just going to have a single drive in there, you could safely replace the whole uuid thing with the actual device: root=/dev/sda[number] [22:33] nagappan: did you run an update or something? [22:34] cr3, no, currently running the update [22:34] cr3, we will always have single drive for the automated testing [22:35] nagappan: I suspect the reason why rebooting broke everything is that you might not have substituted all instances of your old uuid in the menu.lst file. for example, I bet you didn't change: # kopt=root=UUID=... [22:36] cr3, true, the uuid, have changed now than the last boot [22:36] cr3, that surprised me :) [22:36] cr3, after the update, let me try rebooting, once again === erle64- is now known as erle- === fdd is now known as moroi [23:03] nagappan: is this scsi or some other hardware that might likely have a long timeout before the disks get detected? You might see if adding "rootdelay=90" to your kernel boot line works (I've got a machine here that does that). [23:09] sbeattie, its ide drive [23:10] nagappan: hrm. Might still be worth trying rootdelay=90 to see if it's a slow-to-detect disks situation. [23:10] sbeattie, based on cr3 suggestion, I have modified to /dev/sda1 instead of using uuid, now things are working fine :)