[00:00] <Theriex> floh: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Windows-XP
[00:00] <Theriex> floh: /media/Windows-XP must already exist
[00:00] <floh> Theriex: Ok, sure /media/Windows-XP must exist if you mount by hand.
[00:00] <twisted_g> sound like it doesn't exist
[00:00] <twisted_g> try cat /proc/partitions
[00:00] <floh> Theriex: So it seems autodetect works.
[00:01] <|PaperTiger|> Is there any way I can get the OLD KDE 4.1 taskbar looks back? I prefer the KDE 4.1 version to the KDE 4.2 version
[00:02] <Theriex> floh: ya autodetect seems to work fine
[00:02] <floh> Theriex: Hm... I don't understand why you don't have this partition in "Places". Which Ubuntu do you use?
[00:02] <Theriex> floh: but in your case with the other drive it isn't
[00:02] <Theriex> floh: the partition is in Places
[00:03] <floh> Theriex: Yes, this is why I believe its because I cannot mount sda1 without '-t ntfs'.
[00:03] <Theriex> floh: and it mounted it for me when i clicked on it
[00:03] <floh> Theriex: So it works fine for you. :)
[00:03] <Theriex> floh: ya it would seem so
[00:03] <floh> Theriex: So why did you ask about automount? :)
[00:04] <Theriex> floh: thats not the automount i need help with
[00:04] <floh> Theriex: Ok, I think you want to have a "full-automated-mount".
[00:04] <Theriex> floh: when i insert removable media, like an SD card, it is automounting it as readonly... i want to change it to automount as read/write
[00:04] <floh> Theriex: so it mounts as soon as you enter the mountpoint. Right?
[00:05] <floh> Theriex: Oh??? If I insert SD, I already can write datas on it.
[00:05] <twisted_g> Theriex: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mp3player auto user,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[00:05] <Theriex> floh: not me, it shows up in mtab with the option ro instead of rw
[00:05] <twisted_g> Theriex: (from my /etc/fstab)
[00:06] <floh> Theriex: Hm... if we know why it behaves different on your and my machines. Maybe you should take a look in dmesg.
[00:06] <Theriex> twisted: thats automounting a device at boot
[00:06] <twisted_g> no
[00:06] <twisted_g> thats my usb devlice
[00:06] <twisted_g> device
[00:06] <Theriex> twisted: ftsab is boot mount
[00:06] <twisted_g> i don't have problems mounting my usb devices though
[00:07] <twisted_g> you mean, you want it autmounted on insert?
[00:07] <Theriex> correct
[00:07] <Theriex> as read/write
[00:07] <twisted_g> you're on mouse click from having it mounted geez :)
[00:08] <Theriex> twisted: it does mount when i insert it
[00:08] <twisted_g> i have the device notifier widget on my task bar
[00:08] <twisted_g> kay
[00:08] <twisted_g> but ro?
[00:08] <Theriex> twisted: yes eactly
[00:08] <Theriex> twisted: i wanted rw
[00:08] <Theriex> floh: have you looked at your device under a partition manager?
[00:08] <twisted_g> i click once on the device in my device notifier and thats it
[00:08] <twisted_g> why does it need to automount?
[00:09] <floh> Theriex: How?
[00:09] <Theriex> twisted: you don't seem to understand... when i click on the device in device notifier, it mounts the device and opens the folder... but the device is set as read only not read write... i have no problem having the device mounted, its the way it is mounted
[00:10] <Theriex> floh: using gparted or some other partition manager
[00:10] <floh> Do you have a symbol, which look like a PC with Monitor (and a small white "arrow" on black square) in Kicker?
[00:10] <Theriex> floh: just curious if it shows the device and what info it gives you
[00:10] <Theriex> floh: yes thats the device notifier
[00:10] <twisted_g> hm i don't have that problem Theriex ... it mounts my devices under the mount point i gave earlier, instead of under /media/XXXX
[00:10] <twisted_g> try adding the device to your fstab
[00:10] <twisted_g> with a mount point
[00:10] <floh> Theriex: Yes, this mounts sd-cards usb-devices for me.
[00:10] <twisted_g> and a rw spec
[00:11] <twisted_g> and see if it then will mount it rw using the device notifier
[00:11] <Theriex> twisted: i can't mount it in fstab as it could have a different device name
[00:11] <twisted_g> i think i had that problem before
[00:11] <robison> #debian-br
[00:11] <robison> please, i'm brazilian , speak portuguese!!
[00:12] <twisted_g> depends on where your hdd 's a mounted not so? i mean, if your hdd is sda, and your dvd/cdrom is sdc, then it would be sdb or sdd not so?
[00:12] <twisted_g> mainly thats my configuration Theriex and it works consistently for me
[00:12] <Theriex> twisted: i'm not talking about a hdd
[00:12] <joshjtl> this is sooo bizzare there are no sound recorders for kde available in any repo anymore
[00:12] <twisted_g> predicably
[00:12] <twisted_g> i'm not either
[00:12] <twisted_g> for me, sda is my hdd, sdc is my dvd
[00:12] <twisted_g> sdb is where my usb gets mounted
[00:12] <Theriex> twisted: its a usb flash card reader
[00:12] <twisted_g> 1/2/3/4
[00:12] <twisted_g> etc
[00:12] <twisted_g> each with its own mount point
[00:12] <twisted_g> and its working great
[00:12] <twisted_g> try it
[00:13] <robison> #debian
[00:13] <Theriex> i'm like floh, i don't want it in my fstab
[00:13] <twisted_g> why not?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> robison: try  /j #debian
[00:13] <twisted_g> hehehe :)
[00:14] <floh> Theriex: :)
[00:14] <Theriex> twisted: because then it is automounted regardless
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !pt > robison
[00:15] <Theriex> twisted: all i want to do is configure the automount options for kde... there must be a way to do it
[00:15] <twisted_g> i'm not sure i understand what it is that you want Theriex .. sorry, but thats my suggestion
[00:16] <twisted_g> i don't boot my pc with my usb devices attached
[00:16] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/d5764bea2
[00:16] <mefisto__> Theriex: does everything automount readonly?
[00:16] <yoritomo>  i merged all the logs in the same post
[00:16] <Theriex> mefisto: everything else is in my fstab
[00:16] <Theriex> mefisto: because i want that mounted on boot
[00:17] <floh> Theriex: The question is, why does your "automounter" mount devices readonly.
[00:17] <floh> Theriex: did you look into dmesg?
[00:17] <vladi> hi! please send me name of italian ubuntu channel...
[00:17] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip, sorry in french
[00:17] <floh> Theriex: Did you try with usb-stick, does it behave the same?
[00:17] <mefisto__> Theriex: I mean removeable media (sd cards, usb flash drives) do they all mount readonly, or just this one sd card?
[00:17] <Theriex> floh: usb stick wouldn't be the same
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: i can make it out
[00:18] <Theriex> mefisto: they all mount ro
[00:18] <twisted_g> Theriex: try this... open a konsole
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: does: sudo apt-get -f install   help any?
[00:18] <twisted_g> run the following command
[00:18] <Theriex> floh: dmesg shows it saying Write-Protect
[00:18] <twisted_g> tail -f /var/log/messages
[00:18] <twisted_g> plug your devices in and out and watch the output for clues
[00:18] <vladi> somebody know the link uf the italian ubuntu help chat, please?
[00:18] <mefisto__> Theriex: just wondering if there is a filesystem error on the sd card
[00:18] <floh> Theriex: Hm... no idea. But just a shoot... maybe somewhat with your rights?
[00:18] <yoritomo> i tryed suo apt-get install -f but nothing change
[00:19] <floh> mefisto__: Good idea, this could cause mounting readonly.
[00:19] <Theriex> twisted: it tells me what i already know: write protect is on
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you need to get the stuff installed at the bottom of your pastebin
[00:19] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip internet access ok this time
[00:19] <Theriex> mefisto: the filesystem is fine
[00:19] <Theriex> mefisto: i am able to transfer using other devices
[00:20] <yoritomo> pastebin?
[00:20] <twisted_g> Theriex: with any usb device? irrespective of the type? confirm you don't have an fstab entry overriding the "automounter"
[00:20] <Theriex> mefisto: ie: i stick the sd card in my camera, plug my camera into usb, and can transfer
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: sudo apt-get install kdelibs5 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4
[00:20] <twisted_g> brb
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: awesome :D
[00:20] <brmassa> guys, why Jaunty's Konqueror doestn consider middle mouse button as previous versions?
[00:20] <Theriex> twisted: the only fstab entries i have are for hdd's
[00:20] <yoritomo> you meaAction parsnip, all in one line or i separate ?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: yep, all 11 line
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> 1 line
[00:21] <Theriex> nobody has given me an answer to my original question... which was how do i configure the dettings the automounter sets when it automounts a device...
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: i use manual mounts personally. i dislike automount
[00:23] <Theriex> ActionParsnip: manually mounting an SD card everytime i stick it in would be a major PiTA
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: its habitual to me
[00:23] <Theriex> ActionParsnip: well its preference i guess really
[00:24] <Theriex> AP: i prefer just being able to plug it in and go
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: there wasnt always automount. ive used linux a while now
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: so to me its weird
[00:24] <Theriex> AP: i've only used it for the last year or so...
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> makes sense
[00:25] <floh> Theriex: Sorry I don't have idea for your problem. :(
[00:25] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip i come back soon
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: you can tab complete my name rather than write AP ;)
[00:26] <Theriex> floh: np... i just assume there would be a something somewhere in the system where i can configure automount options... like under system settings...  from a google search apparently there is something for Ubuntu, like System Settings -> Admin -> Disk and File Management or something
[00:26] <Theriex> ActionParsnip: lol sorry don't use this prog too much
[00:27] <Theriex> :)
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: every day is a school day
[00:27] <Theriex> ActionParsnip: tnx for the tip tho :)
[00:27] <floh> Theriex: Sure I can understand you. Same with my problem I searched settings for adding/managing partitions in "Places" of Dolphin.
[00:28] <floh> Theriex: I have to go out, since its late here. I wish good luck with your problem.
[00:30] <Theriex> floh: thanks, take care
[00:30] <Theriex> ActionParsnip: is there a mount.conf file or something similar on the system?
[00:30] <floh> Theriex: Thanx, same with you.
[00:30] <floh> Goodbye! :)
[00:30] <Theriex> l8rs
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: fstab can mount stuff if you use blkid's
[00:35] <DaddyLonglegs> I want to specify a pattern like "username:password@server" for accessing a network printer, and my password contains an at-sign (@) in it. So the server fails to distinguish which at-sign is for specifying the server name, and gives me an error. Any idea?!
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Theriex: the uids will make sure it uses the same mount point
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: give me good news....
[00:35] <yoritomo> not so good i paste the log
[00:36] <mefisto__> Theriex: can you try running  tail -f /var/log/messages   then plug in the sd card and maybe pastebin the output
[00:36] <Theriex> mefisto: its only two lines that show up but hold on
[00:38] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/m2bfb0c73
[00:38] <jasballz> hey all; i know that a lot of people have wondered this and I think that this should be publicly known / post somewhere: TO ACCESS WIFI IN KDE RUN IN TERMINAL NM-APPLET IF YOU HAVE WIFI IN GNOME AND NOT KDE namaste and gassho jasballz
[00:38] <Theriex> mefisto__: ok pasted...
[00:39] <jasballz> For those who were wondering about wifi in KDE and find that KCMwifi doesn't work, see my above msg
[00:39] <Theriex> mefisto__: sorry did you want me to use pastbin instead of past.ubuntu.com?
[00:40] <mefisto__> Theriex: whatever you like. just give us the url
[00:40] <jasballz> hey some1 post that nm-applet runs in KDE terminal wifi
[00:40] <Theriex> mefisto__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143762/
[00:40] <jasballz> *4 wifi*
[00:41] <Theriex> mefisto__: keep in mind i do not want to put an entry in fstab or manually mount the device
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: try: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[00:42] <jasballz> hey, anyone know how to get desktop cube running in KDE with plasma instead of compiz? i have scale and desktop wall but no cube or sphere or cylinder. I have intel gm965 chipset
[00:42] <joshjtl> it's beyond me that theres no kde sound recorder in any repos
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: that will force install the debs you have downloaded regardless of deps and fix stuff
[00:43] <joshjtl> jasballz: are you running jaunty per chance?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: once you run that run: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:44] <jasballz> joshjtl: yah
[00:44] <joshjtl> jasballz: and no issues with lockups?
[00:44] <joshjtl> or with the intel drivers?
[00:45] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip is it allfor now?
[00:45] <yoritomo> i will try it then
[00:46] <yoritomo> i come back
[00:46] <mefisto__> Theriex: if you unmount then mount manually, is it still readonly, with the "write protect on" message?
[00:47] <Theriex> mefisto__: lemme check
[00:48] <mefisto__> Theriex: I'm wondering whether the card reader is faulty, since you said using it in your camera connected to pc with usb cable you were able to write to it. is that correct?
[00:48] <jasballz> joshjtl: only lockups when I do compiz cover switch sometimes. But how to use Plasma cube?
[00:48] <Theriex> Theriex: brand new card reader, bought it today
[00:48] <Theriex> oops
[00:48] <Theriex> lol talking to myself :)
[00:48] <joshjtl> are there any KDE svg editors?
[00:48] <mefisto__> :)
[00:49] <jasballz> svg?
[00:49] <Theriex> mefisto__: it won't let me mount it manually
[00:49] <Theriex> mefisto__: because ther is not entry in fstab
[00:50] <Theriex> mefisto__: brb, i'm gonna reboot into windows and see if i have the same problem
[00:51] <mefisto__> joshjtl: scribus ?
[00:51] <mefisto__> joshjtl: don't know of any that are specifically KDE apps
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !find svg
[00:57] <jasballz> how to get plasma desktop cube working for intel gfx card?
[00:58] <Theriex> mefisto__: apparently, its not a linux problem
[00:58] <Theriex> mefisto__: its r/o in windows too
[00:59] <jasballz> my ip is 67.54.196.212 someone help me troubleshoot proftp
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> jasballz: you havent forwarded port 21 on your router
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> jasballz: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[01:01] <jasballz> ActionParsnip: let me get on that
[01:01] <mefisto__> Theriex: does the card reader manufacturer have a website? maybe look for a support forum, or just google and see if anyone else is having the same problem with that reader
[01:02] <Theriex> mefisto__: its made by vantec
[01:02] <Theriex> mefisto__: going to try formatting a card and then see if i can write to it
[01:05] <jasballz> ActionParsnip: I forget how to connect to my router "homepage" how do you do that agaain?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> jasballz: its your default gateway's ip
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> jasballz: in nyour favourite web browser
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> jasballz: run: route | grep default
[01:08] <jasballz> ActionParsnip: that'll get me my gateway ip, rite? thx
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> yep
[01:09] <cuznt> !yep
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> !find yep
[01:12] <yoritomo> ActionParsnip it worked a lot, but still not able to install adept and konsole, and no graphic mode
[01:13] <yoritomo> i will go to sleep and tomorrow i think i will reinstall completely
[01:13] <yoritomo> thanks a lot for your help
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you are in package hell and is the downfall of package based systems
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: unfortunately they will flat refuse to install anything without force, until all deps are met
[01:14] <yoritomo> i hope one day ubuntu will inlude a recovery  system a bit like on XP :)
[01:14] <Guest76578> healo
[01:14] <yoritomo> that is maybe the only nice thing windows could invent
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you will probably be using force quite a bit until you get righted
[01:14] <Guest76578> yea i know
[01:15] <Guest76578> hea windows is pretty good
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you could try rebooting, loading the recovery mode and selecting fix packages
[01:15] <Guest76578> just has a few, a lot of flaws
[01:15] <yoritomo> i did again but no success
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: press esc when grub shows up
[01:15] <jasballz> yoritomoto: i agree, theres already a package like that tho, remastersys
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> ah
[01:16] <garrett_> hea ljl
[01:16] <yoritomo> can you tell me more about it ?
[01:16] <jasballz> yorimoto: try remastersys, but know that it will restore your system as backupped compelely so if youre having errors, wait to backup after a clean install
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: you basicallly need to get your ackages squared up as you are missing some deps for some packages
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> yoritomo: if it gets to be a long job i would do a fresh install to get a result
[01:17] <jasballz> Guest76578: windows is _pretty_ good, I like 7 beta but Im a mac or linux boi
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> windows has great hardware support
[01:19] <yoritomo> remastersys save automaticaly ? or need to make a manual snapshot ?
[01:21] <yoritomo> ok sorry see you tomorrow
[01:21] <yoritomo> 2:21 am here :)
[01:21] <yoritomo> thanks so much for your help
[01:21] <yoritomo> without help i am lost :)
[01:22] <unitypunk> hey..
[01:22] <unitypunk> where do i get more repositorys at?
[01:22] <unitypunk> plaaces are telling me to aptget things that arent in existance.
[01:29] <bernhard> what is the prefered way to do a dist upgrade nowadays?
[01:29] <Theriex> mefisto__: well i tried everything, its supposed to read/write, can't find any info through google... i've emailed the company, hopefully they can give me an answer... thanks for your help tho
[01:29] <bernhard> id change in sources intrepid to jaunty and do an update
[01:30] <mefisto__> Theriex: good luck with it. it's really annoying when this happens with something new, but it's not that uncommon
[01:31] <Theriex> mefisto__: oh well it does the most important thing i want it to do which is read
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> bernhard: sudo update-manager -d
[01:33] <bernhard> ActionParsnip: hm i read there are python issues and it breaks your system
[01:33] <bernhard> ill stick to the kde 4.2 packages i guess
[01:34] <CoJaBo-Dell> Any suggestions for getting wifi to work?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> bernhard: its what i used but its a case of !worksforme
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: is it usb or internal?
[01:34] <CoJaBo-Dell> Internal
[01:35] <CoJaBo-Dell> Broadcom BCM4311
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: lspci will show all internal hardware. one line will identify the device, put ONLY that line in here
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> i hate broadcom
[01:37] <CoJaBo-Dell> ActionParsnip: Driver is installed.
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: ok can you pastebin the output of: lspci; sudo lshw -C network
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[01:41] <CoJaBo-Dell> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/143781/
[01:42] <Laruft> how do i restart plasma? i've lost my widgets
[01:42] <bernhard> "Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids."
[01:42] <bernhard> ive done a fresh install
[01:42] <Laruft> mind u the start bar plasma thing is ok..
[01:42] <bernhard> which packages are affected?
[01:43] <Laruft> I think my plasma just crashed along with kvirc.    i've lost folder view and notepad thingy
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: ok, looks good. if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you find APs?
[01:44] <jasballz> hey how to get plasma to work desktop cube on intel vga? it wont work for me :(
[01:44] <jasballz> compiz does tho
[01:44] <CoJaBo-Dell> ActionParsnip: Yes, it even finds mine.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: awesome, hard bit done
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: then use network manager to configure your connection
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Laruft: try: killall plasma
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Laruft: then press alt+f2 and type plasma and press enter
[01:46] <CoJaBo-Dell> ActionParsnip: When I click my network from the list, I get this message: "NetworkManager is now disconnected."
[01:46] <bernhard> oh god, i hate those graphical update and package managers -.-
[01:47] <Laruft> ActionParsnip, that removed/restored start bar.. but no yellow sticky or folderview on desktop
[01:47] <Laruft> I need the content of the yellow sticky too
[01:48] <CoJaBo-Dell> ActionParsnip: The network is WPA-PSK, and the key is correctly entered.
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Laruft: add the widget again
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> !wpa |  CoJaBo-Dell
[01:50] <Laruft> wont that overwrite the note?
[01:51] <Laruft> there is a red - by it, it's already added... just i can't see it
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA%20Supplicant
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Laruft: i dont use the note thing so couldnt comment myself
[02:00] <CoJaBo-Dell_> ActionParsnip: Looks like it worked o_O Any way to get that to run automatically on startup?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell_: it should work from now on, try a reboot to test
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> CoJaBo-Dell_: i dont use wpa so am unsure of how rebooting will affect stuff
[02:08] <[mors]> hi folks
[02:08] <[mors]> I have a big gripe
[02:09] <[mors]> the inkspace packages depend on toooooo many gnome packages, like keyring and vfs
[02:09] <[mors]> why ??????? why can't I just install inkscape without installing a second DE on my computer ?
[02:09] <[mors]> inkscape shouldn't need any of those packages.
[02:10] <frogonwheels> [mors]:  possibly iti s pickking up 'recommended' or 'suggested' packages.
[02:10] <frogonwheels> [mors]: .. and lay off the 'gripe' language.  not gonna make people want to help
[02:10] <frogonwheels> [mors]: use aptitude to select the package.
[02:11] <frogonwheels> [mors]:  and then b4 you install -look at the 'recommended' etc sections of the package and deselect the ones that you don't want.
[02:12] <frogonwheels> [mors]: could also be a second-level suggested dependency.
[02:13] <frogonwheels> [mors]: so possibly go to  aptitude ctrl+T  options preferences .. and find the bit about automatically install recommendations and deselect that.
[02:15] <[mors]> unfortunatelly, those packages are not listed as suggestions but as dependencies
[02:15] <unitypunk> hey..
[02:15] <unitypunk> i gots a question
[02:16] <unitypunk> when wubi installs, what does it do to the boot file?
[02:17] <coreyman> So I'm having recording troubles I have to eat my mic to talk, anyone know what I can do... in windows i just hit 20db boost and im good.
[02:17] <jasballz> unitypunk: are you installing in xp, vista, or from livecd?
[02:17] <unitypunk> wubi is already installed.
[02:17] <coreyman> I'm using Kmix, If i hit mic boost there my speakers start buzzing
[02:17] <unitypunk> " inside" vista
[02:17] <unitypunk> but im about to install xp on a real partition
[02:18] <unitypunk> will that show up right below kubuntu at the boot select screeen??
[02:19] <[mors]> I'm going to dl the package, unpack it and run the binaries
[02:19] <jasballz> unitypink: since your boot is bcd I recommend downloading bcdedit gui
[02:19] <jasballz> unitypink: you should install grub via the livecd, and not from vista, linux installs (ubuntu) don't boot if you installed "inside" vista
[02:20] <unitypunk> jas, you understand im not installing ubuntu right now right?
[02:20] <coreyman> Can anyone help with sound issues.
[02:24] <jasballz> coreyman: what sound issues?
[02:26] <coreyman> jasballz i have to eat my   mic to talk
[02:27] <jasballz> coreyman: is it tasty? that sux. what binary or gui are you using to record?
[02:27] <jasballz> how to get plasma desktop cube working for intel chipset?
[02:27] <coreyman> jasballz using ventrilo over wine
[02:33] <jasballz> coreyman: that could be the problem, using wine
[02:33] <jasballz> coreyman: maybe try to find a debian sound recorder
[02:34] <coreyman> ... not a choice
[02:44] <p_quarles> does kmail not support socks proxies at all, or is there some secret way to do it? :)
[02:46] <jasballz> hey i got desktop cube working but not cylendor or sphere mod
[02:49] <bernhard> i just did an upgrade to the 4.2.2 sources and i have broken packages
[02:49] <bernhard> what should i do?
[02:49] <bernhard> no gui here :)
[02:50] <bernhard> part of them are kdelibs-bin
[02:56] <bernhard> hm, i try a release upgrade
[02:57] <bernhard> cant break any more
[02:57] <bernhard> thats what i hate about ubuntu, always breaks at dist-upgrades
[02:57] <Lego-Kubuntu> hello
[02:58] <Lego-Kubuntu> I was wondering if someone could help me fix compiz
[02:58] <Lego-Kubuntu> it doesn't matter how many desktops i set when when i turn compiz on.. my cube only shows a front and back not a cube
[02:58] <Lego-Kubuntu> and it won't let me change the desktops number in ccsm
[03:02] <Lego-Kubuntu> anyone?
[03:03] <CoJaBo-Dell_> Lego-Kubuntu: I think theres an option in compiz itself that changes it...
[03:04] <bernhard> Lego-Kubuntu: open your eyes :)
[03:04] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes General -> Desktop size -> Number of Desktops but its highlighted blue and set to one, it won't let me change it.
[03:05] <Lego-Kubuntu> my eyes are open bernhard.... thanks for the help though...
[03:05] <bernhard> Lego-Kubuntu: maybe you have only 1 virtual destop set in gnome
[03:05] <Lego-Kubuntu> im using kde
[03:05] <bernhard> then kde
[03:06] <Lego-Kubuntu> i have 4 set in the Configure - KDE control module
[03:06] <hwilde> hello could someone please help me get kasteroids back on my computer
[03:06] <bernhard> Lego-Kubuntu: increase them in your desktop settings
[03:06] <hwilde> i upgraded to 8.10 and it disappeared
[03:06] <hwilde> now it's missing obsolete or blah blah
[03:06] <hwilde> and the kde-games src does not include kasteroids
[03:06] <bernhard> hm ok
[03:06] <bernhard> what about using kwin?
[03:07] <hwilde> i am going to freak out if i can't drive my spaceship around and shoot some asteroids
[03:07] <Lego-Kubuntu> bernhard, there is only 2 places to change it ccsm, and control module.
[03:08] <Lego-Kubuntu> ccsm won't let me change it from 1 and its set to 4 in the control module.. how much higher do i have to set it to get 4 desktops
[03:10] <Lego-Kubuntu> i just tried setting it to 8 and as soon as i turn compiz back on.. it changes the kicker to 4 but i still only have a flat face (not a cube), a front and back thats it
[03:11] <hwilde> kasteroids please.
[03:12] <jasballz> so i forwarded port 20-21 tcp on my router for proftpd so it should work
[03:12] <jasballz> who will try to connect to my ip so I can debug?
[03:12] <Lego-Kubuntu> i will if you can help me :P
[03:13] <Lego-Kubuntu> whats the ip , username and pass you want me to try?
[03:14] <jasballz> ok, user2 and developers at 67.54.196.212 it should work
[03:14] <jasballz> lego-kubuntu: many thx
[03:14] <oobe> if i upgrade to the juanty beta when it becomes official will i have to change my sources.list or will it just install updates as if i already am using jaunty
[03:15] <hwilde> so nobody knows how to get kasteroids back?  I am going to downgrade to 8.04 then
[03:15] <jasballz> oobe: it will automatically change the sources list i no cuz im running alpha dev jaunty
[03:15] <Lego-Kubuntu> cannot connect
[03:15] <bernhard> hwilde: compile from source?
[03:15] <hwilde> bernhard, where can i get the src
[03:15] <jasballz> lego-kubuntu: what did it say?
[03:16] <bernhard> hwilde: google :)
[03:16] <Lego-Kubuntu> could not connect to server
[03:16] <Lego-Kubuntu> did you forward it to the right ip?
[03:16] <oobe> jasballz, ok thanks and when it is released i wont need to modify sources.list cause it will already have the jaunty sources configured
[03:16] <oobe> that was my question really i gues i didnt phrase it right
[03:17] <hwilde> bernhard, i dont think it's possible :/
[03:18] <jasballz> lego-kubuntu: do you know anything about setting up proftpd?
[03:18] <jasballz> lego-kubuntu: let me try some mods
[03:18] <jasballz> lego-Kubuntu: let me see if its running
[03:18] <bernhard> hwilde: why?
[03:18] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes a bit
[03:19] <hwilde> bernhard, try it man it's not easy
[03:19] <hwilde> you think i would be asking here if it is clean cut
[03:19] <bernhard> hwilde: i cant help you that much, no gui here :)
[03:20] <bernhard> oh man, im doin a dist-upgrade atm, but if that doesnt work, i use arch
[03:20] <bernhard> pretty sources that break everything :)
[03:23] <hwilde> bernhard, kasteroids demands libkdegames1 but i have v5
[03:24] <bernhard> hwilde: hm, maybe try askin in #kde, this channel seems dead
[03:25] <hwilde>  kasteroids depends on libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.5.7); however:
[03:25] <hwilde>   Package libkdegames1 is not installed.
[03:25] <hwilde> .
[03:25] <hwilde> but I have libkdegames5 :/
[03:26] <bernhard> hwilde: hm did you download a deb package?
[03:26] <hwilde> yep
[03:26] <bernhard> hwilde: build it from source
[03:26] <hwilde> from WHERE
[03:27] <bernhard> hwilde: packages.ubuntu.com provide binary and source packages IIRC
[03:27] <hwilde> :/
[03:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> what is the difference with firefox branding and non branding?  I am confused about these 2 packages.
[03:27] <claydoh> kasteroids is kde3, if you have kde4, you will have a tough time :/
[03:28] <hwilde> well wth
[03:28] <hwilde> I wouldn't have upgraded if I knew I was going to lose kasteroids
[03:29] <claydoh> theres always xasteroids ;)
[03:30] <hwilde> that's not even funny
[03:30] <hwilde> i think that game was designed based on cpu cycles much slower than mine
[03:30] <hwilde> bc it's unplayable
[03:30] <hwilde> it's like warp speed
[03:30] <hwilde> not to mention the "graphics"
[03:30] <hwilde> can someone atleast point me to the src
[03:30] <hwilde> i mean i can't even find it
[03:31] <hwilde> kdegames doesn't include it anymore
[03:31] <devilsadvocate> gundam_rx78nt1, probably firefox vs icedove
[03:32] <devilsadvocate> gundam_rx78nt1, s/icedove/iceweasel
[03:32] <claydoh> hwilde: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-backports/kasteroids
[03:32] <hwilde> what is that
[03:33] <hwilde> a) that is not the src
[03:33] <hwilde> b) every single mirror link is broken
[03:33] <claydoh> the package page for ubuntu's kasteroids, including a link to the src
[03:34] <claydoh> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegames/kdegames_3.5.10.orig.tar.gz
[03:34] <hwilde> like i said man
[03:34] <hwilde> kdegames does not include kasteroids
[03:36] <claydoh> you asked for link to src, there you are
[03:36] <hwilde> ah wait
[03:36] <hwilde> that one does
[03:36] <hwilde> i had v4.2 which doesn't
[03:36] <claydoh> nope
[03:37] <hwilde> Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0)  :(*
[03:38]  * hwilde off to install 8.04 in a vm
[03:38] <claydoh> lol
[03:38] <hwilde> yes, laugh at my despair
[03:38] <claydoh> prob the best way, unfortunately
[03:38] <hwilde> gd upgraes
[03:38] <hwilde> i'm never upgrading again
[03:39] <jasballz> ok think i fixed it. not positive still looking for connectors to help debug
[03:39] <claydoh> hwilde: there may be a way, lemme look for the link...
[03:40] <bernhard> hwilde: upgrading broke everything for me too :)
[03:40] <bernhard> i try to upgrade further now
[03:41] <hwilde> :/
[03:41] <bernhard> up to jaunty
[03:41] <bernhard> if you like new packages and fine updates
[03:41] <bernhard> take arch linux
[03:41] <claydoh> hwilde: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kde3-maintainers/+archive/ppa
[03:41] <bernhard> incredible how ubuntu breaks all the time
[03:42] <claydoh> you can usre this ppa repo to add kde3 back, or at least install kasteroids and deps
[03:42]  * claydoh has had no probs upgrading hardy-intrepid-jaunty, first time ever
[03:43] <jasballz> i need help with proftpd
[03:43]  * claydoh has had bad experiences upggrading going back to hoary
[03:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> only feature I like with 9.04 is the network manager widget.
[03:44] <jasballz> Lego-Kubuntu: my pc crashed need help
[03:44] <hwilde> claydoh, i doubt that
[03:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, the rtl8187 drivers still doesn't work that good.
[03:44] <hwilde> it's just a longer string of impossible dependencies
[03:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't know if it is because of my intel3945ABG wireless card.
[03:44] <claydoh> hwilde: how? it installs kde3 alongsside kde4
[03:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> Like in 8.10
[03:45] <hwilde> claydoh, ok well you try it and then tell me how bc i don't think it works
[03:45] <hwilde> claydoh, specifically   Package kdelibs4c2a-kde3 is not installed.
[03:45] <hwilde>   Package libarts1c2a-kde3 is not installed.
[03:45] <bernhard> hwilde: did you use kde 3 back then?
[03:47] <gundam_rx78nt1> oops, posted my comments on the wrong channel/side.
[03:47] <jasballz> anyone know anything about proftpd?
[03:48] <KDesk> how can I delete the history of the channel in Quassel?
[03:48] <bernhard> KDesk: dunno, maybe /clear or /reset
[03:49] <KDesk> bernhard: thanks, let's see...
[03:49] <hwilde> KDesk, its probably in a txt file in your ~/ directory
[03:50] <hwilde> xchat is ~/.xchat2/scrollback/servername/channelname
[03:50] <KDesk> bernhard: nop.. I don't understant this client.
[03:50] <hwilde> claydoh, wait I think something is happening
[03:50] <bernhard> hm, is quassel a kde 4.2 program?
[03:50] <bernhard> which replaces konversation?
[03:50] <claydoh> bernhard: yes, and yes, at least until konvi gets a stable kde4 port
[03:51] <KDesk> hwilde: the old log yes, but I dont want to see them all the time. I think I have to disable this log system.. :\
[03:51] <KDesk> bernhard: yes, it is the default for intrepid
[03:51] <KDesk> I mean Jaunty
[03:51] <jasballz> what command for netstat shows port ownership?
[03:51] <jasballz> bernhard: what's quassel? i have xchat running in kde right now
[03:51] <bernhard> KDesk: ye, i just see it being pulled into
[03:51] <claydoh> bernhard: actally quassel is a qt app actually
[03:52] <bernhard> i hope kopete gets irc support soon
[03:52] <claydoh> bernhard: would be nice, not sure if anyone is working on it tho
[03:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> well I am out of here.
[03:53] <claydoh> hwilde: unfort. the ppa does not have any jaunty packages yet
[03:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> Almost bed time.
[03:53] <claydoh> so I cannot test it for you
[03:54] <KDesk> Hmm, I don't find a option to disable the logs in Quassel... And wtf are Buffers?
[03:54] <KDesk> odd program...
[03:54] <claydoh> hwilde: but if you add the ppa, and upate, then try installing kasteroids it should pull all the nneded bits in
[03:54] <bernhard> claydoh: they are working on it but no date
[03:54] <hwilde> omg I am playing kasteroids
[03:54] <claydoh> I know the guy doing the kde3-for-intrepid packages is putting a lot of time and effort into those packages
[03:55] <claydoh> :)
[03:55] <claydoh> sweet! good for you! awesome
[03:55] <bernhard> haha bitches!
[03:55] <bernhard> got it wokring
[03:55] <bernhard> finally
[03:55] <bernhard> hwilde: success at the same time :)
[03:55] <claydoh>  bernhardgoo for you, too
[03:55] <hwilde> lol
[03:56] <claydoh> oops
[03:56] <hwilde> ok now my question
[03:56] <hwilde> when I told it sudo apt-get install kasteroids
[03:56] <hwilde> why didn't it just do all this for me
[03:56] <hwilde> if i type sudo twice maybe then it will do what i say
[03:56] <claydoh> they are not in the normal repos
[03:56] <hwilde> and ?
[03:56] <claydoh> did you add the new repo in/
[03:56] <hwilde> I want it to do that
[03:56] <hwilde> I want it to do what I say
[03:57] <hwilde> not make me google and search and ask on irc
[03:57] <hwilde> and find pgp keys
[03:57] <hwilde> and update sources.list
[03:57] <hwilde> and apt-get -f
[03:57] <claydoh> dunno
[03:57] <hwilde> just freaking do it
[03:57] <claydoh> I seldom have to do any of that
[03:57] <hwilde> it was totally possible
[03:57] <hwilde> but I got about 30 error messages first
[03:57] <claydoh> how were you trying to install it to begin with?
[03:57] <hwilde> and for extra fun it didn't install to anything in my path lol
[03:58] <hwilde> so I had to go locate the binary
[03:58] <hwilde> originally I told it to apt-get install kasteroids
[03:58] <hwilde> then I told it to apt-get source kasteroids
[03:58] <claydoh> thats the only safe way to have kde3-kde4 co-exist
[03:58] <hwilde> then I told it to apt-get source kde-games
[03:58] <bernhard> brb as Raylz
[03:58] <hwilde> but that was v4.2 with no kasteroids
[03:58] <Raylz> re
[03:58] <hwilde> then I downloaded the .deb package but it demanded kdegameslib1
[03:59] <claydoh> hwilde: thats because the needed bits are n o longer available in Intrepid
[03:59] <claydoh> thays why there are repos,, and the ppa repo I gave has all the needed bits
[04:00] <claydoh> but it is a non-official, personally created repo
[04:02] <jasballz> man it froze
[04:02] <hwilde> claydoh, I understand what you're saying on a package management basis
[04:03] <hwilde> but if linux is going to work
[04:03] <hwilde> it needs to do what I say
[04:03] <hwilde> for real
[04:03] <hwilde> especially if you make me type sudo
[04:03] <hwilde> that's like saying if at all possible make it happen NOW
[04:05] <claydoh> no, not really, esp if you are asking it to do something impossible ;)
[04:05] <hwilde> ah but it wasn't impossible
[04:05] <claydoh> exactly how did    you get it installed then ?
[04:06]  * claydoh didn't see what   you did to get it installed
[04:06] <jasballz> i need help w/ proftpd
[04:12] <hwilde> claydoh, i edited sources.list with the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kde3-maintainers/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[04:12] <hwilde> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kde3-maintainers/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[04:12] <hwilde> then I added the pgp key to my sources
[04:12] <hwilde> then i apt-get install -f
[04:12] <hwilde> htat fixed the dependencies
[04:12] <claydoh> yes, and that is what made it possible to install
[04:12] <hwilde> then i had to find the binary in /opt/kde3/games/
[04:12] <hwilde> and ln -s it in my path
[04:12] <hwilde> and voila
[04:12] <claydoh> because they werent there before then
[04:13] <hwilde> I still want the src tho
[04:13] <hwilde> so I cna make it > 800x600 res
[04:13] <hwilde> what is this 1984 in here
[04:13] <hwilde> i have dual 22" widescreens
[04:13] <hwilde> the asteroids are like 2 pixels big
[04:13] <claydoh> my wife misses ksirtet from kde3
[04:13] <claydoh> the tetris clone is too pretty for her
[04:14] <claydoh> in kde4
[04:23] <Guest81257> hi?
[04:24] <Guest81257> any kubuntu web page ppl here?   I want to comment on the web page but can't find contact section
[04:26] <Guest81257> kubuntu forum is down?   is it for maintenance?
[04:29] <brian_> found my car keys
[04:40] <LOGAN> hi guys, just checked out the new beta. its looking good (live mode) except for no open gl support (?) and about kubuntu could not start and i miss things like pidgin, firefox and thunderbird. Hopefully VLC and my other fav apps will be preinstalled else I really need to find out how to make my own custom live cd
[04:40] <Techwolf> The wiki and forums are not responding to me. I just need a URL for instructions on creating a bootable kubntu usb flash drive.
[04:43]  * LOGAN shrugs
[04:43] <LOGAN> nobody awake apparently
[04:45]  * LOGAN runs back to his trusted apps instead of all these unknown apps, bye
[04:46] <kubuntu_> algem saberia me diser se tem como ativar led do notebook conexão wireles
[04:46] <kubuntu_> ele reconhece placa mas não ativa led indicar que ta conectado
[05:03] <Lego-Kubuntu> Hi, im getting a bit confused, I want to setup a proxy server so when im at work I can still surf the net, becuase they block almost everything.  And I've been reading about squid, but it seems like thats for home use what do i want to use? is squid the right program?
[05:06] <etfb> Someone refresh my memory.  How do I burn an .iso to a DVD-R?
[05:06] <Lego-Kubuntu> is imgburn available for nix?
[05:06] <Lego-Kubuntu> that will do it
[05:07] <etfb> I'm think of a command-line program, not a GUI.  I have k3b, but of course that's useless.
[05:08] <oobe> etfb, cdrecord -v /path/to/*.iso
[05:08] <oobe> that should work
[05:08] <Yamato_Potter_Br> o/
[05:08] <oobe> there are other options  but cdrecord doesnt need them anymore its mostly pre configured to use right device etc.
[05:09] <etfb> oobe: Ah, that was the one.  Thanks.
[05:09] <Yamato_Potter_Br> ??? alguem ake do Brasil ?
[05:09] <Lego-Kubuntu> could someone answer my question?
[05:09] <Yamato_Potter_Br> .-.
[05:10] <Lego-Kubuntu> or point me in the right direction
[05:10] <etfb> !pt | Yamato_Potter_Br
[05:10] <etfb> Lego-Kubuntu: Can you restate your question?  Also tell us (if you haven't already) what you've done so far to investigate.
[05:11] <Yamato_Potter_Br> #ubuntu-br
[05:12] <Lego-Kubuntu> I've been reading about squid, and it seems its for redirecting all traffic through another port, but what I would like to do is be able to surf sites my work has blocked, a proxy server is what I though i wanted
[05:12] <Lego-Kubuntu> so from work computer go to my server proxy.blurr-ink.com and be able to view sites i wasn't
[05:14] <Lego-Kubuntu> and im just getting confused i think reading the install/configure guides for squid.
[05:14] <Lego-Kubuntu> i just finished installing squid and haven't done anything else yet
[05:15] <Lego-Kubuntu> i have apache installed and setup with dns and everything so thats not part of the problem
[05:15] <oobe> Lego-Kubuntu, thats an awfully big thing to walk someone thru on irc try looking in google for a step by step guide and if you get stuck ask for help on irc
[05:16] <etfb> Lego-Kubuntu: Rather than installing your own proxy server, have you tried TOR or one of the other proxy services?
[05:16] <oobe> etfb, thats not a bad idea if he just wants to access restricted sites
[05:17] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes, thats what i've been doing, but is squid what i want? see work blocks proxies as fast as people find them.. but they haven't blocked my server yet, and if i make it named dumb like goto.blurr-ink.com it won't get caught.
[05:17] <Lego-Kubuntu> !TOR
[05:18] <Lego-Kubuntu> but any site even refering to proxy gets blocked fast
[05:18] <etfb> Lego-Kubuntu: Depends on your system administrators.  If I were working there and were enough of a nazi, I'd notice the use of a proxy, hunt down the owner via whois, and then sack you for breach of employment contract...
[05:19] <Lego-Kubuntu> well they aren't nazi's but they just bock stuff fast...
[05:20] <Lego-Kubuntu> and how can they fire me for using a proxy server.. it doesn't matter who owns the server
[05:20] <Lego-Kubuntu> theres tons of them out there
[05:20] <Lego-Kubuntu> everyone uses them until they get blocked then everyone trys to find another one.. but like i said if i keep mine to myself and rather hidden i'm fine
[05:22] <etfb> Lego-Kubuntu: Security through obscurity then?  Might work.  You still have the ethical issues (ie why are you doing personal stuff at work) but I'm inclined to think you're more in the right than they are.  Some companies are just stupid about that sort of thing, and yet can't figure out why their staff keep leaving...
[05:23] <Lego-Kubuntu> well its not that i dont' work but when the calls aren't coming in and your infront of a computer and can't leave your phone unattended you gotta do something
[05:23] <etfb> But as oobe said, your best bet is to find a tutorial and follow it, and ask here or in the technology-related forums for help on individual points.
[05:24] <Lego-Kubuntu> thats fine, and i have no issues following tutorials but i need to know exactly what im looking for is squid what i need? i dont' see anyone mention anything about a browser page were they can input the address to open
[05:25] <oobe> squid is a proxy cache
[05:25] <Lego-Kubuntu> so does that mean yes or no?
[05:25] <oobe> is saves web content then redirects clients to use locally hosted web site instead of using bw to dload new pages
[05:26] <oobe> you dont need it
[05:26] <oobe> it will work
[05:26] <oobe> it may not be as fast as just setting up a direct proxy
[05:26] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes what would you recommend software wise
[05:26] <Lego-Kubuntu> for a direct proxy
[05:28] <Guest81257> why can't you use k3b to burn iso to DVD-R?
[05:28] <Guest81257> anyway, now that some ppl are 'talking' now... can i ask a question about the kubuntu web site?
[05:29] <Guest81257> anyone know why kubuntu doesn't have any info on their website ANYWHERE differentiating an alternate install and desktop?
[05:30] <bazhang> !alternate
[05:30] <bazhang> Guest81257, just ask here
[05:31] <oobe> Lego-Kubuntu, tell me how you plan to use the proxy i.e homepc is proxy workpc is client wan is internet so "workpc >> wan >> homepc >> wan/internet" is this what you intend
[05:32] <Guest81257> ubottu, I think the web page should describe it then as you just have....
[05:32] <Guest81257> which one should I use?  they are both livecds?   I just want to check out 9.04
[05:33] <bazhang> Guest81257, jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <Lego-Kubuntu> my home computers will work just the same. i want to be able to go to work, type in the browser myproxy.blurr-ink.com  it opens a webpage with a textbox that i type mail.yahoo.ca in and it opens.. because it is blocked if i don't use a proxy
[05:33] <bazhang> Guest81257, only the desktop is a livecd btw
[05:34] <Guest81257> oh right... the alternate one is install only, right?   I guess that applies with any alternate install cd?   they are used when the desktop livecd won't run for whatever reason on your system?
[05:34] <oobe> Lego-Kubuntu, i just thought of somthing try this http://www.openzend.com/
[05:34] <bazhang> Guest81257, yes, and the alternate can be used as an upgrade cd as well.
[05:34] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes that is exactly what i want
[05:35] <Lego-Kubuntu> but as i said almost every single proxy server gets blocked as the work server admins find them
[05:35] <Guest81257> bazhang, is it preferable to use the alternate to upgrade or to upgrade through the repository?
[05:35] <cprgmswr2> Hi
[05:35] <oobe> Lego-Kubuntu, btw you just told me somthing that we both already knew i was asking for to clarify your topology which u did not do
[05:35] <cprgmswr2> Does anyone else have an issue when shutdown down on 9.04 where you get random crap on the screen?
[05:35] <Lego-Kubuntu> ? what do you mean
[05:36] <oobe> Lego-Kubuntu, tell me how you plan to use the proxy i.e homepc is proxy workpc is client wan is internet so "workpc >> wan >> homepc >> wan/internet" is this what you intend
[05:36] <oobe> i said that
[05:36] <Guest81257> I don't know if I will want to upgrade Intrepid... or install on top of?  does the upgrade work well?
[05:36] <aga> morning ;D
[05:36] <Lego-Kubuntu> yes
[05:36] <bazhang> Guest81257, depends on what you are comfortable with really; some do fresh installs, some via package manager or command line, yet others via the upgrade cd method
[05:36] <aga> has kde 4.2.2 been released in the repos?
[05:36] <oobe> then you said somthing unrelated and well already established
[05:36] <cprgmswr2> ?
[05:37] <oobe> is "workpc >> wan >> homepc >> wan/internet" an accurate description of your plan
[05:37] <bazhang> Guest81257, a good rule of thumb with new releases is wait a bit for the worst bugs to be ironed out :)
[05:37] <Guest81257> bazhang, usually, I do fresh installs... but, I upgraded the KDE via the instructions
[05:37] <Guest81257> bazhang, true, TRUE ;-)
[05:37] <Lego-Kubuntu> well i guess, im a tad confused, all of it will go over the internt so workpc > internet > mypc > internet > workpc
[05:39] <oobe> ok thats the right answer
[05:39] <Lego-Kubuntu> that openzend site, is exactly what is the goal. so how ever it works which at this point should be mypc > internet > zendserver > internet > mypc right?
[05:39] <oobe> thanks
[05:39] <oobe> this guide looks easy to follow
[05:39] <oobe> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-transparent-squid-proxy-server-in-ubuntu.html
[05:40] <oobe> and squid will work
[05:40] <oobe> for what you want
[05:40] <Lego-Kubuntu> ok cool
[05:40] <oobe> make sure you home pc has the ports open
[05:40] <oobe> most people only use squid inside a local network
[05:40] <Lego-Kubuntu> will i have to construct the actual proxy page ? like with the address bar (yea always check the ports before testing
[05:41] <oobe> no squid should run in the background
[05:41] <Lego-Kubuntu> ? so how will it work then?
[05:41] <oobe> once its configured and running you will put your home ip address in your browser's proxy settings
[05:41] <Lego-Kubuntu> if im at work and want to open mail.yahoo.ca how would i do it?
[05:42] <oobe> do you use firefox or shite exploer at work
[05:42] <Lego-Kubuntu> ie .. but so there isn't any software packages that fuction like openzend? where it brower based?
[05:43] <Lego-Kubuntu> instead of messing with the proxy settings cuz that will probably conflict with the software i run in the browser for work :S
[05:44] <oobe> maybe but im not aware of them
[05:44] <oobe> you probably just need to find some sample php code and install it on your system with apache and php
[05:44] <oobe> thats beyond the scope of what i can help you with
[05:44] <Lego-Kubuntu> ah i never even though of that could it be that easy?
[05:45] <Lego-Kubuntu> well im gunna look into that :) thanks for the help
[05:46] <oobe> no worries
[05:46] <oobe> what you want to do is pheasable your on the right track
[05:46] <oobe> but it requires some reading
[05:46] <sithlord48> is there something wrong w/ the fourm?
[05:46] <Lego-Kubuntu> yup, but i'll get it figured out :)
[05:47] <sithlord48> also updated to kde 4.2.2. (intrepid) and the get new stuff buttons don't work ne longer....
[05:49] <Lego-Kubuntu> oobe, http://www.best-php-scripts.com/details352.htm
[05:49] <Lego-Kubuntu> they are everywhere :P
[05:58] <oobe> Lego, sweet
[05:59] <aga> i just upgraded to kde 4.2.2 where can i check what's new?
[06:00] <p_quarles> aga: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2.2.php
[06:00] <oobe> kde.org
[06:00] <p_quarles> aga: it's also right there in the channel topic
[06:00] <oobe> yeah but besides those 2 things
[06:01] <aga> i've checked thatp p_quarles looking for something more specific
[06:02] <p_quarles> aga: did you not see the link to the changelog? doesn't get more specific than that
[06:03] <aga> yeah i was checking it now
[06:03] <Castawayz> does kubuntu have the usb startup maker utiliy thing
[06:03] <aga> but still that's not exactly what i am looking for
[06:07] <glick> excuse me do i have to download anything extra to get dvd playback in kubuntu?
[06:09] <aga> glick:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu i think that should do
[06:10] <aga> once you install the repo, you need to install the library for dvd's or whatever you want to install
[06:11] <glick> ok thanks
[06:11] <glick> what do i add to my repository?
[06:11] <aga> it is all there, step by step, you need to add the repository in the sources and the key, once you have it you can download the packages you need
[06:12] <glick> add it via the command line?
[06:12] <aga> i do it via command line... but you can also do it with adept
[06:13] <aga> you can also add the repository with adept
[06:13] <nephilus> how do i install jave runtime environment?
[06:13] <nephilus> is it in repos? I couldnt find it
[06:13] <p_quarles> or sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[06:14] <p_quarles> ^ glick
[06:14] <tweakedeh> Where is a good place to crack a password hash?
[06:15] <nephilus> john the ripper
[06:15] <nephilus> :D
[06:15] <tweakedeh> nephilus: their any websites with rainbow tables?
[06:15] <nephilus> I don't know. I just use ripper
[06:15] <nephilus> sorry
[06:16] <tweakedeh> nephilus: i got john running, I'm just impashent
[06:18] <nephilus> lol
[06:18] <glick> i installed libdvdcss2 and vlc still cant play it
[06:18] <nephilus> There are some results on google try that
[06:19] <tweakedeh> glick: what are you trying to play?
[06:19] <aga> dvd's
[06:19] <glick> a dvd
[06:19] <tweakedeh> Your sure you have a dvd reader?
[06:20] <glick> uhhh yeha tweakedeh im sure
[06:20] <stealth-> I get a error about not being able to create the python script engine when starting some plasmoids, and i read up that the issue seems to be kubuntu only. Anyone know of a fix?
[06:20] <tweakedeh> glick: Hum, well dvd's allways worked for me in vlc...
[06:23] <nephilus> is solaris free?
[06:24] <tweakedeh> ugh john has been going for 38 min and so far all I got was the last 2 letters
[06:24] <glick> does anyone know what im missing to play dvds
[06:24] <nephilus> better than nothin :)
[06:24] <glick> ?
[06:24] <tweakedeh> nephilus: guess thats true, I hope this isn't a over night thing.
[06:24] <nephilus> uhm yes i had the same problem just type how to play dvd in google and you have to install an app
[06:25] <nephilus> that would suck tweakedeh
[06:25] <glick> nephilus: well i installed libdvdcss2
[06:25] <glick> what else do i need
[06:25] <nephilus> I am not sure. I only had this problem in ubuntu. h/o i'll google
[06:26] <nephilus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:26] <nephilus> That should do it
[06:26] <nephilus> wait
[06:26] <nephilus> iits
[06:27] <nephilus> *it is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[06:27] <nephilus> i forgot the k
[06:27] <nephilus> then it should work
[06:27] <coffee|_|D> hi :)
[06:27] <tweakedeh> pretty sure some of the files there are illegal some where ;)
[06:28] <nephilus> what files restricted extras?
[06:28] <nephilus> haha i got it from help.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <nephilus> i would hope not\
[06:28] <tweakedeh> Yea I was reading up on how to 'back up' my dvd's and it said some thing about them
[06:28] <nephilus> ha Nice "back up" thats a good one
[06:29] <tweakedeh> lol
[06:29] <nephilus> What are you secretly aXXo in diguise?
[06:29] <aga> haha
[06:29] <tweakedeh> lol I wish that guys got some awesome movie out
[06:29] <nephilus> disguise* yes he does
[06:29] <aga> speaking of which...
[06:29] <nephilus> torrentfreak got an interview with him
[06:29] <tweakedeh> the monsters vs aliens isn't even on disk yet and he has it =]
[06:29] <nephilus> you might want to read it
[06:29] <tweakedeh> Where would it be?
[06:30] <nephilus> h/o
[06:30] <tweakedeh> ?
[06:30] <nephilus> http://torrentfreak.com/interview-axxo-the-most-popular-dvd-ripper-on-bittorrent/
[06:30] <nephilus> h/o=hold on
[06:30] <sithlord48> aga, does your get new stuff work ?
[06:31] <tweakedeh> how do i do a dictionary attack with john...
[06:31] <coffee|_|D> man, i had my last fight with virista
[06:32] <nephilus> virista?
[06:32] <coffee|_|D> virus + vista = vi-ri-sta
[06:32] <nephilus> lol
[06:33] <coffee|_|D> hehe
[06:33] <coffee|_|D> ole'
[06:33] <nephilus> thats a good one. Luckily here at linux we make the viruses so when you switch to us you are on the winning team
[06:33] <sithlord48> lol
[06:33] <coffee|_|D> woot!
[06:33] <coffee|_|D> hehe
[06:34] <coffee|_|D> that last one did it for me.. i'm not even going to dual boot anymore
[06:34] <tweakedeh> i think coffee is a good name for you.
[06:34] <nephilus> its true and luckily microcr*p can't fight back because linux is practically immune! woot
[06:35] <aga> not sithlord48
[06:35] <coffee|_|D> ty tweakedeh :)
[06:35] <aga> it stopped working after upgrading i get an error...
[06:35] <aga> sorry i was trying to find what might be wrong
[06:35] <sithlord48> aga, at least you get an errror i don't get ne thing
[06:35] <nephilus> i like this chat it isn't as strict as #ubuntu
[06:35] <aga> gimme a sec and i'll tell you something like 'unable to get new stuff'
[06:36] <aga> nephilus:  i guess it's just a less busy channel
[06:36] <nephilus> no there are about 300 ppl in it
[06:36] <nephilus> actually 1200
[06:36] <nephilus> sorry
[06:36] <nephilus> i just checked
[06:36] <sithlord48> aga, ok yea took a min to get it
[06:36] <aga> i meant this one ;)
[06:36] <nephilus> oh yeah just a bit
[06:36] <sithlord48> aga, error loading data providers
[06:36] <aga> there was an error loading data providers sithlord48?
[06:37] <aga> jup
[06:37] <nephilus> i got banned for a week for saying, "is linus still alive?
[06:37] <coffee|_|D> oh man
[06:37] <nephilus> and he reccomends kde
[06:37] <sithlord48> damn
[06:38] <coffee|_|D> hehe
[06:38] <sithlord48> who cares is linux not all about choice ne way?
[06:38] <nephilus> i ahve ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:38] <nephilus> i can't pick
[06:38] <nephilus> k is prettier but gnome is faster; crashes less
[06:38] <sithlord48> depends on what i am using the machine for really
[06:39]  * coffee|_|D was playing hl2 today
[06:39] <aga> nephilus:  the new kde4 releases are not so crashy i still remember the first kde 4  release... plasma crashing everyday 3 times hihi
[06:40] <nephilus> your right...now its down to 2 crashes :) lol
[06:40] <aga> ahaha
[06:40] <sithlord48> kde 4.0  was bad..
[06:40] <sithlord48> but since 4.2 plasma has not crashed for me ...
[06:40] <tweakedeh> nephilus: 56 min..... and counting.
[06:40] <coffee|_|D> i use gnome and base kde packages right now. cause i really like konversation, to mention one cool kde app
[06:40] <nephilus> lol
[06:40] <aga> saying it was bad is being really generous sithlord48 :p
[06:41] <aga> same here sithlord48 long time i don't have a plasma crash
[06:41] <sithlord48> but jaunty does not like my video card and plasma crashes quick
[06:41] <nephilus> tweakedeh: how is john coming along?
[06:41] <tweakedeh> slow
[06:42] <nephilus> how many letters?
[06:42] <sithlord48> i have to say 4.2 has been good so far.. i miss some of the old features but i like it
[06:42] <tweakedeh> Need to find out how to do a dictionary attack and not brute
[06:42] <tweakedeh> still 2...
[06:42] <nephilus> :) google is your friend
[06:42] <tweakedeh> im trying
[06:42] <nephilus> still... wow
[06:42] <tweakedeh> no dice thogh
[06:43] <aga> i haven't tried jaunty yet
[06:43] <aga> i don't like adventures :p
[06:43] <sithlord48> i installed it on a partition on this machine ..
[06:43] <coffee|_|D> i should try EVE online on this install, i miss that game. :(
[06:43] <sithlord48> the one i had xp on lol
[06:43] <aga> ok guys... i have an issue here... my cpu is running under 20% and the temperature of the processor is 50 degrees...
[06:44] <aga> can someone tell me why the fan is making that annoyng noise?
[06:44] <husayn_> how to play .flv files in Kubuntu
[06:45] <aga> (apart of "it may be dirty")?
[06:45] <coffee|_|D> hmmm wow i used to get that all the time from vista
[06:45] <coffee|_|D> :o
[06:45] <nephilus> whos pw are you trying to crack?
[06:46] <nephilus> ..what are you cracking rather
[06:46] <coffee|_|D> geez you'd think i'd have learned after me....
[06:46] <aga> i learnt after xp
[06:46] <sithlord48> husayn, you talking about installing the flash plugin
[06:47] <tacosarecool> hello
[06:47] <aga> morning tacosarecool
[06:47] <tacosarecool> should I beta test 9.04 yet?
[06:47] <tacosarecool> it's night where I am
[06:47] <sithlord48> its almost 2 am here...
[06:48] <aga> hmmm almost 8am here :D
[06:48] <tacosarecool> wow
[06:48] <aga> anyway tacosarecool whether if you should try or not 9.04 is entirely up to you
[06:48] <sithlord48> husayn, try the package "flashplugin-nonfree" in the muliverse repo
[06:48] <aga> it is still on development so you can expect errors and things not working now and again
[06:48] <sithlord48> do you have an ati v. card ?
[06:49] <tacosarecool> 9.04 will be faster though right it was optimized for notebooks
[06:49] <aga> so i heard
[06:49] <tacosarecool> netbooks
[06:50] <nephilus> can you upgrade to jaunty through the repos?
[06:50] <aga> you can ask in #ubuntu+1 i really do not know if it is working smooth or they are having lots of errors
[06:50] <sithlord48> i did like it from what i seen of it , just things went downhill when i tried to get my video drivers installed...
[06:50] <aga> right now no nephilus
[06:50] <nephilus> 'instead of having to install it...i mean its beta...nm thank you aga
[06:50] <aga> i don't think it's possible at this point
[06:50] <sithlord48> i think i seen something about that in the news on kubuntu.org
[06:50] <aga> it would be really unsafe to have it in the repos.. maybe you can add a specific repo, to upgrade
[06:51] <sithlord48> you can upgrade from 8.10 or 8.04
[06:51] <sithlord48> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-beta <- info here
[06:51] <aga> i dunno, there's no rush to upgrade
[06:52] <sithlord48> i would not upgrade w/o out at least trying the live disk
[06:52] <nephilus> thats how i get pass my schools computer :) no blocked sites :)
[06:52] <nephilus> i use a live disk and i can play all i want
[06:52] <aga> i always wait to the official release, and then make a clean installation
[06:53] <sithlord48> in my school we had all mac's w/ mac admin i had an install disk it was also auto admin login disk
[06:53] <tacosarecool> oh yeah my kubuntu has a race issue I have to log into gnome first enter the password in the password ring to get the wifi then login to kubuntu if I login to kubuntu first then I wont get wifi
[06:53] <nephilus> yuk mac....better than virista thought
[06:53] <nephilus> *though
[06:54] <aga> hmmmm
[06:54] <aga> that is really odd tacosarecool... why you won't get wifi?
[06:54] <devilsadvocate> tacosarecool, wep keys?
[06:54] <sithlord48> this was in the mid 90's
[06:54] <tacosarecool> no devils the keyring password
[06:54] <nephilus> i kind of like mac though. i like the cairo dockish thing
[06:54] <devilsadvocate> tacosarecool, which keyring? :/
[06:54] <tacosarecool> yes I'm using wep though
[06:54] <nephilus> yeah... you don't have to put one in
[06:54] <sithlord48> yea these didn't have ne of that ..
[06:55] <tacosarecool> oops
[06:55] <tacosarecool> How do I undo the keyring
[06:55] <sithlord48> mac os 8 or 9 on those
[06:55] <aga> this fan is gonna kill me
[06:56] <sithlord48> well if you just clean it once in a while :)
[06:56] <nephilus> I hate .bins... I always have to change the permissions to execute them
[06:56] <aga> it's a lappy sithlord48.... i used to hoover my old pc... but i dunno how to clean this
[06:57] <nephilus> you know on my laptop kde is still faster than virista
[06:57] <aga> probably eats 1/3 or resources compared to virista nephilus...
[06:57] <sithlord48> aga, i clean my tizzy by taking it apart caned air is use full too
[06:57] <nephilus> yeah :))))
[06:58] <sithlord48> that reminds me i shoud upgrade my tizzy to 4.2.2
[06:58] <nephilus> tizzy?
[06:58] <aga> hmmm canned air
[06:58] <baal> hi
[06:58] <aga> didnt think about that
[06:58] <sithlord48> yea my laptop
[06:58] <nephilus> whats tizzy?
[06:58] <aga> but works for the fan as well? i don't want to open it
[06:59] <glick> what the hell why doesnt the crap work kaffiene says i have to run some css install script to watch the dvd, then i install it, and when i try again, it has the same popup
[06:59] <sithlord48> the fan on mine it alright it comes on a lot too
[06:59] <glick> what the hell?
[06:59] <nephilus> swiftfox or swifweasel?
[06:59] <glick> can i not watch dvds in kubuntu?
[06:59] <baal> does openoffice have a grep/string search  function ?
[06:59] <sithlord48> sure can
[06:59] <sithlord48> check out vlc
[06:59] <tacosarecool> Hi glick the easiest way to play dvd's in kubuntu is to pay for the codecs from the ubuntu store
[07:00] <nephilus> YUCK!!!
[07:00] <aga> just like a find baal?
[07:00] <tacosarecool> vlc will work too lol
[07:00] <hwilde> claydoh, are you still around
[07:00] <nephilus> w32 and w64 codecs?
[07:00] <nephilus> ultimatix
[07:00] <hwilde> claydoh, that toally broke my kdevelop installation
[07:00] <baal> err openoffice writer
[07:00] <sithlord48> you just need vlc
[07:00] <tacosarecool> but vlc won't play them by default try the restricted package
[07:01] <hwilde> claydoh, i reverted sources.list and reinstalled stuff and it won'ts start and says      export KDEDIRS=/path/to/kdevelop:$KDEDIRS && kbuildsycoca
[07:01] <glick> sithlord48: i have vlc
[07:01] <sithlord48> yea also restriced-extras
[07:01] <nephilus> YOU can get rid of both panels in kde !!!Freaking awesome!!
[07:01] <glick> do i have to restarted
[07:01] <bazhang> !ultamatix > nephilus
[07:01] <glick> sithlord48: i installed restricted extraws
[07:01] <glick> do i have to restart?
[07:01] <glick> maybe
[07:01] <hwilde> claydoh, then it tells me    The program 'kbuildsycoca' is currently not installed, sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a
[07:02] <hwilde> claydoh, then that says     kdelibs4c2a is already the newest version.
[07:02] <sithlord48> glick, no  you should just have to open vlc and go to play,disk....
[07:02] <nephilus> hey guys cairo-dock doesn't show up in my application launcher. how do i add it? because i am tired of starting it in terminal
[07:02] <glick> thats what im doing
[07:02] <aga> mind sending me that bazhang? i'm curious what it says
[07:02] <glick> the drive disk starts to spin up but then it doesnt play
[07:02] <nephilus> Then i have to constantly open 2
[07:02]  * sithlord48 is away: Gone away for now
[07:02] <bazhang> aga /msg ubottu
[07:02]  * sithlord48 is back.
[07:04] <nephilus> I need help installing java. frostwire says i don't have it
[07:04] <coffee|_|D> nite peeps :)
[07:04] <tacosarecool> glick try the restricted package
[07:04] <tacosarecool> restricted-extras
[07:04] <aga> thanks bazhang
[07:04] <glick> i installed restricte
[07:04] <tacosarecool> wait how do I bypass the keyring
[07:05] <nephilus> nm i found it in repos
[07:05] <glick> perhapse i nee a restart
[07:05] <bazhang> !medibuntu | glick
[07:05] <bazhang> glick get the two packages there (no need for repos)
[07:06] <nephilus> hmm illegal sounding to me
[07:06] <bazhang> !ot > nephilus
[07:06] <nephilus> okay
[07:06] <nephilus> thanx guys
[07:07] <nephilus> sorry but is Ult really that bad?
[07:07] <nephilus> !ultimatix
[07:07] <bazhang> nephilus, dont mention it again
[07:07] <nephilus> okay
[07:08] <nephilus> does it really mess up your install?
[07:08] <bazhang> nephilus, stop
[07:08] <nephilus> okay
[07:08] <nephilus> can i pm you?
[07:08] <bazhang> no.
[07:08] <nephilus> okay i'll google then
[07:09] <sithlord48> gpg errors from the ppa repo :(
[07:09] <nephilus> can someone help me with cairo dock
[07:10] <bazhang> !ppagpg | sithlord48
[07:10] <nephilus> i don't know how to install i tried from the repos but it doesn't work right
[07:10] <nephilus> it doesn't show in applaunch and when started in terminal it doesn't have all of the features  it should
[07:10] <sithlord48> there were working...
[07:12] <tacosarecool> !keyring
[07:12] <tacosarecool> how do I undo the gnome keyring
[07:13] <aga> are you sure that's what it's causing you the problem???
[07:13] <nephilus> uhm i think there is something called k wallet not sure and it has it in there and you could cahnge it
[07:13] <aga> i've had gnome and kde and my wireless was working just fine
[07:14] <sithlord48> on my laptop i use wicd for my network manager. had issues w/ the stock one
[07:14] <aga> the gnome keyring should not give you any problems when you are running kde i think
[07:14] <aga> should not even be running from kde IMO
[07:14] <nephilus> i am going to sleep gnight good luck lol'
[07:14] <sithlord48> i have gnome-keyring installed...
[07:14] <sithlord48> night
[07:15] <aga> night
[07:15] <aga> i dunno sithlord48 just does not make a lot of sense to me that the wireless won't work because of the gnome keyring
[07:15] <aga> on kde
[07:15] <sithlord48> i don't have wifi on this computer
[07:16] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: it's ot, but you can reset the gnome keyring by deleting ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[07:16] <sithlord48> and on the laptop i don't have gnome-keyring
[07:16] <aga> hmm i have never had major issues with my wifi
[07:17] <sithlord48> i did when i first installed 8.10 would only connect sometimes to unlocked networks...
[07:17] <aga> i have my network filtered by mac adress
[07:17] <sithlord48> and very rarely to my wep network @ work
[07:17] <p_quarles> the reason that gnome-keyring would relate to wifi is that it locks nm-applet, which some people prefer
[07:18] <sithlord48> so i changed the wifi @ work to mac filter and it still was no better, installed wicd and it has worked ever since
[07:19] <aga> i really have no idea, it looks to me that all the big problems people has, i don't and all the things which work for people do not for me :D
[07:19] <sithlord48> for somethings i could say the same
[07:21] <sithlord48> i am still amazed that my laptop runs kde 4 w/ compiz and everything works right using the nvidia 96 driver.
[07:21] <devilsadvocate> kde4 with compiz?
[07:22] <devilsadvocate> why? :P
[07:22] <sithlord48> kwin's effects don't compare
[07:23] <aga> i am really not fond of desktop effects
[07:23] <aga> a bit is okay... but just a bit
[07:23] <sithlord48> i use a few to be more productive..
[07:24] <sithlord48> and some for fun  (snowing tux's)
[07:24] <aga> snowing tux??
[07:24] <aga> where is that? i just see the snow :d
[07:25] <sithlord48> compiz.
[07:25] <aga> ahaa no compiz here
[07:25] <sithlord48> the snow plugin allows you to set you own texture set or png files
[07:25] <aga> aha i see
[07:26] <aga> as i said i barely use them, so i don't take too much time finding out about desktop effects
[07:26] <sithlord48> the snow plugin is not installed by default for compiz
[07:26] <sithlord48> you have to install the unsupported plugins to get it w/ a few others.
[07:27] <aga> aha i see... now i am having an issue compiling (is my first attempt...)
[07:27] <aga> so if it sounds silly....
[07:27] <sithlord48> i do like exploding windows on close and burning menus., thats about all for "effects" the rest are like group windows and desktop cube
[07:27] <astrobear> how do you verify keys of an apt repo?
[07:27] <aga> when you untar something, then ./configure
[07:28] <aga> what do you ./configure
[07:28] <sithlord48> its a script
[07:28] <aga> i mean... ./configure what? i have all that tar file out
[07:28] <devilsadvocate>  kwin has snow
[07:28] <devilsadvocate> dont knwo if it allows user defined images
[07:29] <sithlord48> no just binding settings
[07:29] <astrobear> ./ means to execute a script aga
[07:29] <astrobear> configure is the name of the script you are executing
[07:29] <astrobear> well...
[07:29] <astrobear> not exactly
[07:29] <astrobear> but it's a configure script
[07:29]  * sithlord48 is away: Gone away for now
[07:29]  * sithlord48 is back.
[07:30] <aga> hmmm
[07:30] <aga> i dont understand what i have to do now
[07:30] <aga> really...
[07:30] <sithlord48> cd to the dir you untared it to .
[07:30] <aga> yeah i am there i think
[07:30] <aga> sec
[07:31] <aga> ok i wasn't hehehe
[07:31] <aga> now make?
[07:31] <sithlord48> then ./configure  , it should do stuff and if all goes well then you can make
[07:31] <aga> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:32] <aga> i can live without digikam... i just thought it would be nice to learn how to compile
[07:32] <aga> any stepbystep guide??
[07:33] <sithlord48> there is no ./configure in the archive ?
[07:33] <aga> that's what it says...  but its odd is digikam 0.10
[07:34] <aga> this is the part where i am thinking on rm...
[07:34] <solid_liq> !ping
[07:38] <sithlord48> night all
[07:50] <Shtl> Hello all, one of the code contains "net-snmp/net-snmp-includes.h" and "#include <net-snmp/net-snmp-config.h>" include files, i want to compile it on kubuntu machine which package i have to install for these file to be available
[07:52] <ScorpKing> Shtl: #kde-devel
[08:22] <husayn_> how to install calculator in Kubuntu
[08:27] <tacosarecool> aga
[08:27] <tacosarecool> What is my problem then?
[08:27] <guldor> Ello
[08:28] <guldor> Could someone help me out, hopefully briefly with some troubles I'm having with Ubuntu?
[08:28] <guldor> #
[08:31] <aga> tacosarecool:  i am not denying that your problem is the keyring
[08:31] <tacosarecool> oh ok
[08:31] <aga> just not so sure about it
[08:31] <tacosarecool> I'll try resetting the keyring
[08:31] <tacosarecool> brb
[08:31] <aga> it might be a bunch of reasons
[08:32] <tacosarecool> wait nm-applett
[08:32] <tacosarecool> would cause it?
[08:32] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: doesn't *cause* it but nm-applet uses gnome-keyring; otherwise, it would never come up in Kubuntu
[08:33] <tacosarecool> can I uninstall nm-applet?
[08:34] <aga> tacosarecool:  what's exactly the problem you cannot connect to the network or you just don't see any network?
[08:35] <tacosarecool> aga when I start the computer I can't login to kde to get wifi I have to go in gnome first
[08:36] <aga> yes but when you log into kde
[08:36] <aga> without logging into gnome first
[08:37] <tacosarecool> i don't get wifi
[08:37] <aga> what is exactly going on with your wifi... no network manager around, able to see the networks but not able to connect, not able to see any network...
[08:37] <tacosarecool> not able to connect
[08:38] <aga> did you configure the network manager with the password and so on?
[08:38] <tacosarecool> yes
[08:38] <tacosarecool> Is that the problem?
[08:38] <aga> i dunno, as i said it might very well be the keyring, but i rather prefer to discard simple things before thinking about some others
[08:39] <tacosarecool> Ok
[08:39] <aga> personally i do not use wep encription, but mac filters on my router
[08:39] <tacosarecool> I'm going to try delete the keyring thanks brb
[08:39] <tacosarecool> oh wait
[08:39] <tacosarecool> Does the keyring hold my wep
[08:40] <kannan> kdm_greet Cannot open default user face...i see this error in syslog..how to fix it
[08:40] <aga> hmmm i think yes i haven't used a lot of gnome, but my wifi autoconnected
[08:40] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: yes, that's why it's there; but you can reset it and it will prompt you for a new master password
[08:40] <tacosarecool> If it's blank it won't pop up right?
[08:41] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: i.e., next time you start nm-applet and try to connect; you'll be asked to set a password
[08:41] <tacosarecool> but I'm trying to figure out a way so I don't have to login to gnome first to get wifi
[08:42] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: well, you could have mentioned that; just run knetworkmanager from the menu/krunner
[08:43] <tacosarecool> oh ok I'll try that
[08:43] <p_quarles> tacosarecool: or you can load nm-applet in kde; doesn't really matter what you use; you don't need to be in Gnome
[09:07] <nicholas> what you said didn't work ..(
[09:08] <tacosarecool> I still have to login to gnome first to get wifi
[09:10] <tacosarecool> aga
[09:10] <tacosarecool> hello
[09:10] <aga> hi :)
[09:10] <tacosarecool> I still have to login to gnome first to get wifi
[09:11] <tacosarecool> ..(
[09:11] <aga> did you remove the wep password from the gnome keyring?
[09:13] <aga> just the wep key
[09:13] <tacosarecool> no
[09:14] <aga> i would try that also...
[09:14] <tacosarecool> umm but do I have to make it a system setting?
[09:14] <tacosarecool> I'll copy my wep key
[09:14] <aga> i will ask in #kde maybe they know
[09:15] <tacosarecool> I'll go to kde
[09:18] <tacosarecool> aga
[09:19] <aga> jup?
[09:19] <tacosarecool> look at this lol #kde-offtopic
[09:19] <aga> yeah crowdy crowdy ;)
[09:19] <aga> gotta go anyway... all this saturday morning tidying is waiting for me
[09:20] <aga> and then i will try to go for a walk somewhere.. finally weather is nice :D
[09:20] <tacosarecool> good morning I'm going to bed
[09:20] <aga> sleep well then :)))
[09:23] <straniero> buongiorno a tutti
[09:43] <demmon> how can i search for wireless networks?
[09:44] <yaa_> hi. how can i remove all bluetooth pakages from my ubuntu
[09:45] <demmon> yaa_: this is a kubuntu chanel but i will tell you
[09:45] <demmon> :D
[09:45] <demmon> first
[09:45] <demmon> go to add/remove and remove them
[09:45] <yaa_> i have ubuntu but use kdm
[09:46] <demmon> kde:P
[09:47] <yaa_> i have unstalled ubuntu then kubuntu desktop
[09:47] <demmon> ok ok
[09:47] <demmon> remove the bluetooth program
[09:47] <yaa_> but i do use gnome with kdm
[09:47] <demmon> lol
[09:47] <demmon> :D
[09:47] <yaa_> somehow
[09:47] <demmon> you are using kde
[09:47] <yaa_> i dont know why)
[09:47] <demmon> you cant use kde and ubuntu in the same time
[09:48] <maelwryth> Open a terminal and use "sudo apt-get remove bluetooth" ?
[09:48] <yaa_> i did
[09:48] <demmon> yaa_:
[09:48] <demmon> pls
[09:48] <yaa_> but there are some more packages
[09:48] <demmon> atton
[09:49] <demmon> http://picpaste.com/
[09:49] <demmon> lemme see your desktop
[09:49] <demmon> pls
[09:50] <yaa_> demmon- ordinary gnome
[09:51] <yaa_> but /etc/init.b/gdm status shows gdm doesnot run  //kdm does
[10:01] <Simeon_H> exactly which packages will I need to get to install ndiswrapper on hardy?
[10:02] <Simeon_H> I broke the ethernet port on this computer so there is no other way of connecting
[10:03] <aga> tried apt-cache search ndiswrapper?
[10:05] <aga> anyway you might be able to connect without ndswrapper Simeon_H
[10:10] <Simeon_H> I already searched the internet for the compatibility with my wireless card
[10:10] <yoritomo> hello all
[10:20] <jim_bob> help anyone?
[10:21] <jim_bob> help anyone?
[10:21] <fosco__> !ask
[10:22] <jim_bob> i am new to linux
[10:22] <etric> then welcome
[10:22] <jim_bob> and i'm trying to install my nvidia driver. I need to close "X Server"
[10:22] <jim_bob> ty
[10:23] <jim_bob> and i keep getting conflicts... basically im having problems anyway i go about it
[10:23] <fosco__> jim_bob, yo do not really need that
[10:23] <fosco__> !nvidia
[10:24] <jim_bob> i'm sorry.. I don't need X server?
[10:25] <Tinason> hello. i am running jaunty b1. today i upgraded using adept, and a new kernal version was install (ending in .14 i think), and upgraded to kde 4.2.2. I now get errors loading my x config (cant load modules; 'type1' and 'freetype'), when using the xorg.conf that nvidia-xconfig generates. when i delete my xord.conf (and not use the nvidia config) , i can load kde (as i am now). i wanted to load my previous (recent) kernal versions (say,
[10:25] <Tinason>  .12 or .13), but grub tells me 'file not found'. how can i reinstall a previous (recent) kernal version (so that i can fix my video issue) ?
[10:25] <bazhang> !jaunty | Tinason
[10:26] <Tinason> thanks
[10:26] <GNU\colossus> hi all
[10:27] <GNU\colossus> anyone on Jaunty tried to add an LDAP-Server with SSL as a source for addresses for Kontact yet?
[10:27] <GNU\colossus> I can't get it to work...
[10:27] <Tidus> I have a Motorola RAZR v3a cell phone, trying to use it under either moto4lin or bitpim under kubuntu 8.10. However, it seems the usb dsl modem driver (the modem part of the phone uses this driver) is not getting loaded and i'm trying to remember what module that was.
[10:30] <Tidus> almost any cell phone hooked up through USB uses this driver
[10:34] <jim_bob> might as well get a satelite connection
[10:35] <jim_bob> j/p
[10:35] <aga> morning... my card reader is not working on 8.10... i am not sure if it was working on 8.04 or any of the previous releases, never tried (i don't use it, i just hate to know it does not work)
[10:35] <aga> any ideas on how to make it work?
[10:37] <jim_bob> how do you know it doesn't work if you never tried it?
[10:37] <aga> i just entered a card
[10:37] <aga> i know now it is not working, i do not know if it previously worked because i never thought oh let's try :D i normally plug the camera thru usb
[10:38] <aga> and someone would think, why to fix something you never use... you might as well keep on not using it :D
[10:41] <Tinason> what is the general method used to install a recent (previous) kernal version?
[10:41] <yoritomo> i need to engrave my kubuntu now, time to reinstall , what are your hint for a clean reinstall of 8.10 on same previous version keeping my /home  directories in the new installation ?
[10:44] <devilsadvocate> hi, how do i get my webcam to work with flash?
[10:50] <Tidus> so any idea what module that would have been?
[10:51] <limotux> hello every body
[10:52] <palyancho> hello people, i need some help
[10:52] <limotux> what kind of help ?
[10:52] <yaa_>  подымается  из
[10:52] <yaa_> Русской земли свой царь, и не будет в мире силы, которая  бы  не  покорилась
[10:52] <yaa_> ему!..
[10:52] <palyancho> one of my work mates computer had pardus installed, and he executed a partition programme
[10:53] <aga> !ru
[10:53] <palyancho> now it gives error 22 and 17 at start up
[10:53] <palyancho> we tried ubuntu live cd but we can't see the harddisk
[10:57] <giugi> hello.  can anyone have a look at http://pastebin.com/m752b8357 ?  This problem happens when attemping a wifi connection using wicd on a freshly installed kubuntu 8.04
[10:57] <palyancho> guys i need help about a harddisk problem, any can help?
[10:57] <rachael_> hi! anyone have experience of kubunut on a samsung nc10 netbook?
[10:58] <rachael_> whats the harddisk prob?
[10:58] <palyancho> after executing a partition programme, grub gives error 17 and 22
[10:59] <palyancho> and i tried ubuntu live cd and i can't see the harddisk
[11:00] <rachael_> which partition prog?
[11:01] <rachael_> gparted?
[11:01] <palyancho> well actually it was my friends computer here at work, and he doesn't remember the name
[11:02] <rachael_> lol
[11:02] <palyancho> yeah lol
[11:02] <palyancho> and now he is looking at me to work this out
[11:02] <rachael_> probably best to use the gparted live cd and work things out from that
[11:02] <bazhang> did you update grub?
[11:02] <bazhang> !grub
[11:03] <palyancho> hmm i'll try that live cd
[11:03] <rachael_> mebbe he didnt format it properly? or it not lited in /boot/gryb/menu.lst?
[11:03] <palyancho> i can't see the harddisk so i cannot see or mount the harddisk
[11:03] <rachael_> listed in /boot/grub/menu.lst even
[11:04] <rachael_> try gparted
[11:04] <bazhang> follow the grub how to above
[11:04] <palyancho> ok thanks guys
[11:05] <rachael_> ok... brightnes control buttons on a samsung nc10 without recompiling the kernel????
[11:07] <rachael_> hey-ho n/m then peeps.... sure i'll figure it out :(
[11:07] <bazhang> rachael_, that is a webcam?
[11:07] <rachael_> no... its a netbook
[11:08] <rachael_> kubuntu 8.10 works great... but the funciton buttons for brihtness control dont
[11:08] <rachael_> bit tragne cos the volume buttons do work
[11:08] <rachael_> strange*
[11:08] <rachael_> the only solution ive found online involves recompiling the kernel
[11:10] <bazhang> the nc10 se?
[11:10] <bazhang> the one that just came out?
[11:11] <Malic> i made a upgrade yesterday. Now plasma is running 80 % of my cpu capacity. Does anybody of you have the same problem?
[11:11] <rachael_> yup that one
[11:11] <rachael_> with the built in huspa 3g modem
[11:12] <bazhang> rachael_, I would be a little bit patient, when the eeepc first came out tons did not work, but within a few weeks there was a pre-compiled kernel and remix for it.
[11:12] <rachael_> its just irritating that everything else works perfectly!
[11:12] <rachael_> with a little bit of fiddling around anyway :)
[11:13] <bazhang> rachael_, just googling it is too new for that to have happened already, but there will be a wiki no doubt quite soon to fixi it up ala eeeuser.com wiki
[11:13] <bazhang> err fix
[11:13] <rachael_> its exactly the same as the old model - the only difference i the built in 3g modem
[11:14] <rachael_> anyway if i figure out a no-kernel-recompile solution i'll post it on the forums
[11:14] <rachael_> thanx
[11:14] <Malic> !help
[11:15] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1013895 rachael
[11:15] <bazhang> ugh
[11:22] <Malic> help!!!
[11:22] <bazhang> Malic, what version of kubuntu
[11:22] <Malic> kde 4.2 intrepid
[11:22] <Malic> bazhang
[11:23] <bazhang> Malic, and what does top show (in konsole)
[11:23] <Malic> bazhang: that plasma is running 90 % of my cpu capacity
[11:33] <vince_> salve a tutti
[11:33] <bazhang> !it | vince_
[11:34] <vince_> #ubuntu-it
[11:36] <thor> i need help
[11:37] <thor> i've installed updates and now my kubuntu is starting in text mode
[11:37] <thor> and i'm not able to start x server
[11:37] <Mamarok> thor: what updates to which version?
[11:37] <thor> an err message occurs
[11:37] <thor> updates on 8.10 intrepid
[11:38] <Mamarok> and what packages have you updated? KDE 4.2.2 I guess...
[11:39] <thor> i guess so
[11:39] <Mamarok> hm, you don't have the error message at hand?
[11:39] <thor> i have
[11:39] <thor> it's telling me this
[11:41] <thor> unable to start x session---no "/xxx/.xsession"file, no "/xxx/.Xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers and no terminal emulators found; aborting
[11:42] <thor> thats the message
[11:42] <markus_> hy everybody
[11:43] <rikkibobbi> hi there :)
[11:43] <thor> what can i do to fix this situation ?
[11:47] <thor> any idea mamarok?
[11:51] <zzz> so is there someone who can help me ?>
[11:52] <Mamarok> oops, sry, was afk
[11:54] <zzz> mamarok: how can i reinstall kde4 to previous version?
[11:55] <Mamarok> zzz: theoretically, yes, the easiest would be to reinstall, works kine if you have a separate /home partition
[11:55] <Mamarok> *fine
[11:57] <m477> what is channel about wine ?
[11:57] <Tinason> whats the best way to install an older kernal version?
[11:58] <bazhang> #winehq
[11:58] <m477> thx
[12:00] <zzz> mamarok: well, i don't have a separate /home partition
[12:01] <zzz> i guess i will format the drive and reinstall intrepid
[12:01] <Mamarok> zzz: then I don't know how to downgrade, it might me very tricky and in command line only
[12:02] <Mamarok> zzz: make sure to make a separate /home partition then, so you don't have to reformat everything
[12:02] <bazhang> !home
[12:02] <Mamarok> and backup your /home before
[12:04] <rikkibobbi> Is there any easy way to install flash player with my x86_64 version of kubntu ?
[12:04] <zzz> how i mount an ipod ?
[12:05] <bazhang> !ipod
[12:05] <m477> how can i upgarde wine ? apt-get upgrade wine ?
[12:05] <bazhang> m477, you want the very latest wine? add the wine repos then
[12:06] <appu> plzz suggeest a good compression utility for kde other tan ark
[12:06] <m477> bazhang: from where i get source link ?
[12:08] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine m477
[12:08] <m477> bazhang:  ok i found
[12:09] <bazhang> appu, please dont pm
[12:09] <appu> sorry
[12:12] <appu> anyone plz, plzz suggeest a good compression utility  that supports .ace extension for kde other tan ark
[12:13] <zzz> quit
[12:13] <zzz> exit
[12:15] <appu> suggeest a good compression utility  that supports .ace extension for kde other tan ark
[12:15] <guillemot_> hello
[12:15] <appu> hi
[12:16] <guillemot_> I'm new user
[12:29] <Guest59428> im trying to install VMware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz and i got this message while installing what i have to do from here i dont find this message in manual "
[12:29] <Guest59428> None of the pre-built vmci modules for VMware Server is suitable for your
[12:29] <Guest59428> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to buildthe vmci module for
[12:29] <Guest59428> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]
[12:30] <Guest59428> "
[12:35] <Guest59428> someone tell me what to do?? or what iis the problem
[12:37] <m477> how to mount .img ?
[12:38] <m477> i got mount: you must specify the filesystem type after sudo mount -o loop ...
[12:46] <Mamarok> Guest59428: you need a kernel running vmware support, so if you answer Yes to the above question, it will build the vcmi mosule for you
[12:46] <Mamarok> you will ahve to restart to make it work
[12:46] <Mamarok> module* even
[12:47] <Mamarok> s/ahve/have, sry
[12:48] <Mamarok> m477: where is .img located?
[12:48] <Mamarok> this sounds like a hidden folder,nothing one has to mount
[12:49] <m477> Mamarok: no
[12:49] <m477> Mamarok: it is same folder as console
[12:49] <Mamarok> oh, wait, now I understand, you want to mount an image of your system?
[12:49] <Mamarok> what for?
[12:49] <m477> Mamarok: no system it is game :P
[12:50] <m477> Mamarok: i cant mount it
[12:51] <Mamarok> m477: mount a game?
[12:52] <Mamarok> sry, not a clue, you sure this is doable?
[12:52] <Mamarok> sounds very strange
[12:52] <m477> Mamarok: it is .ccd and .img file
[12:53] <Mamarok> m477: as I said, not a clue, didn't even know that one has to mount a game...
[12:54] <m477> Mamarok: it is image file so it must be doable
[12:54] <Mamarok> did you read man mount and man losetup?
[12:54] <Mamarok> are you sure it is not something you have to install?
[12:55] <m477> after mount yes
[12:55] <Mamarok> well, aren't there instructions in some Readme file for that?
[12:55] <m477> no
[12:56] <Mamarok> well, you will have to have a look at losetup, there is a man page for it
[12:57] <m477> Mamarok:  so in your opinion file .img isnt image ?
[12:58] <Mamarok> m477: I don't know, where did you get it from, and why aren't there any install instructions?
[12:58] <Mamarok> seems weird to me
[12:58] <Mamarok> man mount gives the following *generic* instructions to mount an image:
[12:58] <Mamarok> mount /tmp/fdimage /mnt -t msdos -o loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
[12:59] <Mamarok> you will have to read man mount
[12:59] <m477> what is it
[13:00] <Mamarok> m477: what is what?
[13:01] <m477> Mamarok: your path
[13:01] <m477> which you pasted
[13:02] <Mamarok> m477: what I gave above is the *generic* instruction form the mount manual on how to mount an image
[13:02] <m477> ok thx
[13:02] <Mamarok> and you will have to either read the manpage or ak somebody else, ideally the people where you got that .img file from
[13:03] <Mamarok> ask*
[13:03] <domker> Hi
[13:03] <m477> should i paste it ?
[13:04] <Mamarok> m477: no use for me, ask where you got that game from, there must be instructions somehow
[13:06] <TFrog> does anyone know of a good video explaining the use/configuration of the plasma desktop?  reason i'm asking is i've seen little or no documentation on it as of yet.
[13:06] <m477> Mamarok: it is form DC++
[13:07] <Mamarok> TFrog: check out the videos and screencast made by ASeigo, should be on his blog
[13:07] <TFrog> is there a url i can go to?
[13:07] <Mamarok> moment, I'll get it for you
[13:07] <Mamarok> m477: I don't know what DC++ is
[13:08] <Mamarok> TFrog: here it is: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/
[13:08] <marie_blubb> hey I try to save a file rsnapshot.conf  over  mcedit but there is always a problem with saving
[13:09] <Mamarok> TFrog: also, ich you check for KDE plasma videos on google you should get some
[13:09] <TFrog> ty.  been looking for video eplanation or documentation before i get too involved in KDE 4.  done the googling thing and YouTube as well.  sometimes it's difficult to wade through all the new info
[13:10] <m477> Mamarok: it is direct connect
[13:10] <m477> Mamarok: and im on 99% sure that it should works
[13:10] <Mamarok> m477: yes, but that is for Windows, are you sure it is a Linux game?
[13:10] <Laruft> I was looking at the power management settings in kubuntu jaunty.  I have laptop, usually always plugged in,  profile i'm using is default 'performance'  but i notice cpu setting for that profile is dynamic (on demand) - should i change this to performance.   Help didn't explain the differences.
[13:11] <Mamarok> m477: again, you will have to ask at the game site, or look for instructions by googling it
[13:11] <domker> I have problem with Bluetooth (Kubuntu 8.10). I added the device (Sony-Ericsson W580i) and brought PIN. Then i changed mode -> discovered. From PC to phone i can transfer files, but from phone to my PC bluetooth connect at moment and disconnect. (device have trusted status), someone can help me?
[13:11] <Mamarok> m477: this is beyond the scope of this channel I'm afraid
[13:12]  * TFrog might bbl
[13:13] <Laruft> Tfrog, theres a few videos on youtube which explain plasma desktop
[13:14] <Mamarok> Laruft: guess what I told im :)
[13:14] <domker> some idea to resolve my problem with bluetooth?
[13:14] <Mamarok> Laruft: you can change the powersettings in System Settings -> Advanced Tab
[13:15] <Mamarok> domker: there is some bug with bluetooth AFAIK, for some people it only works one way
[13:17] <Mamarok> domker: no idea how to resolve that
[13:17] <Laruft> Mamarok, i was just wondering why default performance profile was not using cpu performance setting
[13:17] <m477> Mamarok: it isnt linux game , but it sould be mountable isnt it ?
[13:18] <domker> Mamarok: thanks - I have to just wait for the update fix it :/
[13:19] <Mamarok> m477: you can't play a Windows game dircetly in Linux, eventually with Wine, but again, this is beyond the scope of this channel IMHO
[13:20] <m477> Mamarok: so i want mount it to play it in WINE
[13:20] <domker> this bug is added to bugs.kde.org?
[13:20] <Mamarok> Laruft: same thing here, it is always Dynamic, even if plugged in, but that works well for me
[13:21] <Laruft> i'm trying cpu performance setting ... lol,  cos i can
[13:21] <ramsey_> boo
[13:21] <Raylz_> any idea why amarok 2 isnt affect when changing volume with kmix?
[13:23] <Raylz_> j #amarok
[13:23] <Mamarok> Raylz_: which version of Amarok? It works fine here with 2.1-SVN, so likely to be fixed in the next release
[13:23] <Raylz_> Mamarok: 2.0.2, the current ja8nty package
[13:24] <Mamarok> never heard that TBH, are you sure you change it in the correct channel?
[13:29] <diabolika_> ciao
[13:35] <Laruft> how do i see the disk space free via dolphin file manager?   command line would be cool too
[13:41] <kosmofield> hi all, is there a good ftp program (gui) i kubuntu that allows connect and upload of files to a webserver?
[13:41] <SSJ_GZ> Laruft: df -h for command line
[13:41] <jeltsch> kosmofield: Just use Konqueror.
[13:41] <jeltsch> Or maybe also Dolphin.
[13:42] <jeltsch> KDE supports network transparency from its first version on.
[13:42] <Laruft> ta ssj
[13:42] <SSJ_GZ> np
[13:42] <jeltsch> Filesystems on FTP servers, webservers, etc. can be handled like the local filesystem.
[13:42] <kosmofield> I use kde 3, is there ftp support in konqueror there also
[13:43] <jeltsch> You can also open files on FTP servers via file open dialogs in any KDE application.
[13:43] <jeltsch> kosmofield: Yes, as I said: KDE has network transparency from version 1 on.
[13:43] <kosmofield> ok, thanks, I will look at it :)
[13:53] <Raylz_> will amarok 2.1 be shipped with jaunty?
[13:54] <Mamarok> Raylz_: no, they ship 2.0.2
[13:54] <Raylz_> Mamarok: hm, so i guess its better to obtain the svn version
[13:54] <Mamarok> but it's likely that 2.1 ends in the backports or some PPA after it's release
[13:55] <Raylz_> Mamarok: how stable is it?
[13:55] <Mamarok> Raylz_: very stable, as there is a beta planned any day now
[13:55] <Raylz_> Mamarok: nice :)
[13:55] <Raylz_> cause that kmix issue is a nogo
[13:58] <Raylz_> Mamarok: this is the current tree? http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/2.0_Development_HowTo
[13:59] <Mamarok> Raylz_: yes, but I strongly suggest you do a local install, let me get you the link to the instructions
[13:59] <Raylz_> Mamarok: ty
[14:00] <Mamarok> Raylz_: http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/989-Building-Amarok-SVN-in-HOME-An-Update.html
[14:00] <Mamarok> be aware that you install a SVN version, so it's bleeding edge, but at least you don't break your system as it will install locally only
[14:04] <Raylz_> Mamarok: hm, most of the stuff is for ibex
[14:04] <Raylz_> Mamarok: i get the deps for compiling and try to build it from svn
[14:05] <KomiaPoika> using kde3 packages from launchpad on intrepid. i cant resolve this apt-get problem: http://www.pastebin.ca/1381760
[14:05] <Raylz_> Mamarok: i dont think the have hard deps on mysql 5.1
[14:05] <KomiaPoika> anyone care to look at it pls?
[14:06] <KomiaPoika> apt-get -f install doesnt fix it
[14:07] <Mamarok> Raylz_: you should ask in #amarok anyway, this belongs there
[14:08] <Raylz_> Mamarok: aye
[14:09] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: are you sure you need these packages and not the kde4 ones?
[14:09] <KomiaPoika> Mamarok: yes i want kde3 in kubuntu 8.10
[14:09] <KomiaPoika> i setup launchpad packages for it
[14:10] <KomiaPoika> i dont know how to force install the missing packages
[14:10] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: you have no kde4?
[14:10] <KomiaPoika> Mamarok: i dont want it
[14:10] <KomiaPoika> its still installed tho
[14:10] <Mamarok> because this might get you in trouble with KDE4 packages if you overwrite those
[14:11] <KomiaPoika> so, how do i deleted all kde4 packages except kdm4?
[14:11] <KomiaPoika> delete*
[14:11] <mweichert> hello
[14:11] <Mamarok> and you can't have both on the same system AFAIK
[14:12] <mweichert> I'm trying out Kubuntu for the first time. I haven't used KDE since 2.0. It's changed quite a bit. I'm trying to figure out how to set key bindings, specifically to switch between desktops (workspaces)
[14:12] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: well, this is not supported in Intrepid anymore, so you might have a look at Google to find some workaround
[14:12] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: did you search the forum?
[14:12] <KomiaPoika> the forum only explains how to install kde3
[14:13] <KomiaPoika> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695&highlight=kde3+intrepid
[14:13] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: so you only want to know how to overwrite packages, right?
[14:14] <KomiaPoika> yes i wanna fix my kde3 and i dont care if kde4 is messed up
[14:14] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/thepackageyouwanttoinstall*.deb
[14:15] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: just take the lines in the pastebin you made
[14:15] <KomiaPoika> ok i just did dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/python-kde3-kde3_3.16.0-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[14:15] <Mamarok> mweichert: does Ctrl+Fn not work?
[14:16] <KomiaPoika> and i got http://www.pastebin.ca/1381768
[14:16] <Mamarok> n being the number of your desktop
[14:16] <mweichert> Mamarok: yes, that works. Where is this configured? How do I go to 'next desktop' ?
[14:17] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a before
[14:17] <Mamarok> mweichert: check the System Settings
[14:18] <KomiaPoika> Mamarok: good, now i could force install
[14:19] <mweichert> Mamarok: yes, I'm there. I'm in Keyboard -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[14:19] <Mamarok> mweichert: in Keyboard ¬ Mouse
[14:20] <Mamarok> mweichert: if you have Desktop Effects activated, there are other shortcuts
[14:20] <mweichert> yes, sorry - "Keyboard & Mouse"
[14:20] <mweichert> I have desktop effects enables... but cannot find shortcuts for switching between workspaces
[14:20] <KomiaPoika> Mamarok: now i get: http://www.pastebin.ca/1381772
[14:21] <Mamarok> mweichert: you can change the settings in the Tab "All Effects", go to the button with the tool on it
[14:21] <Mamarok> KomiaPoika: same as before
[14:21] <Mamarok> ok, folks, I have to go, bbl
[14:22] <KomiaPoika> :(
[14:23] <KomiaPoika> ok now it worked out
[14:23] <KomiaPoika> :)
[14:25] <julio> hello, someone knows a program to see 12 bits images on linux?
[14:25] <psyco> anyone here decent with cairo dock?
[14:26] <psyco> nvm fixed it XD
[14:27] <henry_BR> If I have a fold not permited to I read,execute or write: "---" But inside the fold there are files with permition: -rx  for me.. Can I read this file??? how could I do it? if I'm not permited to read the fold where the file is
[14:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:37] <andrew_> Hi there! Please help me with the problem: sound disappeared after auto-updates
[14:43] <andrew__> Hello. Please help me with sound: It stops working from some moment
[14:47] <yoritomo> hello all
[14:47] <balandongiv> helo guys
[14:47] <balandongiv> jus try this
[14:47] <yoritomo> i just reinstalled kubuntu , too many damage to be restored
[14:49] <yoritomo> i did sudo ./lexmark-inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1.i386.deb.sh --target /lexmark to extract but i get a command not found how comes ? before to reinstall it worked fine
[15:01] <wizkoder> what do I use for kitchensync? can't find it in the repo anymore
[15:05] <spawn57> opensync
[15:08] <robin> Why is it so hard to get flash to work on 64bit platform? ;c
[15:23] <wizkoder> got bluetooth connection with opensync to my phone. but it seems it only supports evolution2?
[15:34] <genjix> hey guys
[15:34] <genjix> im trying to guide a friend to install linux
[15:35] <genjix> he has locked ntfs partitions
[15:35] <genjix> how can they be viewed?
[15:35] <genjix> obv i dont want him to install linux then not be able to view the files on the other partition cos its encrypted
[15:35] <genjix> does he need to backup his data first?
[15:36] <genjix> then we change to ext3?
[15:41] <monique> hello
[15:41] <monique> can anyone there help me out?
[15:42] <jussi01> !ask | monique
[15:42] <monique> i just install kubuntu 9.04 in my powerpc
[15:42] <monique> but it's got lots of problems
[15:42] <jussi01> genjix: if they are locked he just needs to shutdown windows correctly...
[15:43] <jussi01> monique: #ubuntu+1 for jaunty support
[15:43] <genjix> jussi01: its some hal related error
[15:43] <monique> thanks
[15:43] <genjix> so could it be missing ntfs support?
[15:43] <genjix> on the livecd i mean
[15:44] <jussi01> genjix: intrepid or jaunty?
[15:44] <genjix> intrepid
[15:44] <jussi01> genjix: can you give the exact error?
[15:44] <monique> jaunty
[15:44] <genjix> well its jumbled cos im viewing it through kdes remote desktop viewer
[15:44] <genjix> i think im gonna start a ssh session and explore
[15:45] <monique> i cant actualizar
[15:45] <genjix> is there anyway to get a passwordless login? if i install openssh-server
[15:45] <genjix> and start it
[15:45] <genjix> how can i log in without an account?
[15:45] <jussi01> monique: do you need support in a different language?
[15:46] <dthacker> genjix: you can use ssh keys to eliminate the password prompt.  Is this for a command line login?
[15:48] <genjix> yes
[15:48]  * dthacker rummages around
[15:48] <genjix> thanks a lot :)
[15:49] <dthacker> genjix: Have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30709.html
[15:50] <genjix> thank you
[15:50] <dthacker> np, pass it on...
[15:50] <sevilla> hola
[15:51] <sevilla> alguien me puede decir como agregar servidores en el konversation????
[15:52] <dthacker> !es | sevilla
[15:57] <mkargar> How to install digikam-kde4 in kubuntu interpid?
[16:00] <mkargar> How to install digikam-kde4 in kubuntu interpid?
[16:03] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to install windows in a virtual PC?
[16:03] <|PaperTiger|> So I can use Windows programs
[16:03] <bazhang> !vm
[16:04] <bazhang> !appdb
[16:04] <|PaperTiger|> What would you suggest?
[16:04] <jeiworth> |PaperTiger|: yes, just install virtualbox
[16:04] <bazhang> |PaperTiger|, check those two options
[16:04] <|PaperTiger|> WINE doesn't work too well.
[16:04] <bazhang> which app
[16:04] <|PaperTiger|> Picaxe.
[16:05] <|PaperTiger|> It's a Microcontroller program
[16:05] <bazhang> then virtualbox-ose
[16:06] <|PaperTiger|> Virtual box will run Windows within Linux, then I can run any windows program, right?
[16:06] <bazhang> not so much 3D apps no.
[16:07] <|PaperTiger|> Is that because it uses the Linux graphics stuff?
[16:07] <jeiworth> anyone here already using quassel? i am having problems connecting to my bnc since it requires login when connected in the type of: /quote pass blablabla but it doesn't seem to send the command when i configure it in the network settings and quassel keeps the input-field greyed out...
[16:07] <bazhang> not really, though they have advanced it doesnt work well with 3D
[16:08] <|PaperTiger|> Fair enough. Adept for Virtual Box?
[16:08] <jeiworth> yes, viruealbox is in the repos
[16:08] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[16:09] <|PaperTiger|> k, thanks
[16:10] <|PaperTiger|> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:10] <|PaperTiger|> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:10] <tanjir> |PaperTiger|: close all the stuffs you opened to install... u can run only one instance of installer of any kind
[16:11] <bazhang> are you running another instance of apt?
[16:11] <|PaperTiger|> Makes sense... lol
[16:15] <|PaperTiger|> Virtual Hard disk. What does it mean by hard disk image?
[16:17] <|PaperTiger|> I need to use my Windows install disk, don't I?
 I need to use my Windows install disk, don't I? <-- you can also use an iso-image to speed things up
[16:21] <BluesKaj> |PaperTiger|,  Remove pkg manager lockup 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ' #then remove broken dependencies 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[16:24] <Raylz_> is there a #kubuntu+1 or all in #ubuntu+1?
[16:24] <Unksi> Raylz_: all in there
[16:24] <|PaperTiger|> jeiworth, don't have an ISO image
[16:25] <jeiworth> |PaperTiger|: well, then disk is it, or you make an iso ;)
[16:25] <Raylz_> did you do an update today already?
[16:25] <|PaperTiger|> jeiworth, disk. It's easier.
[16:25] <Raylz_> i heard in #ubuntu+1 about borken python packages
[16:25] <Raylz_> today python updates came in
[16:25] <Raylz_> so im not knowing wether to update
[16:26] <jeiworth> Raylz_: dunno but it did upgrade some python packages today
[16:26] <|PaperTiger|> While I'm waiting for Winblows to set up, is there a way to NOT group task bar items?
[16:26] <Raylz_> runs so well, im pretty aware of updates :)
[16:27] <jeiworth> Raylz_: well, since i already have them installed you want me to test something?
[16:30] <Mamarok> |PaperTiger|: right click on the task bar, you will see...
[16:34] <|PaperTiger|> Mamarok, found it. I looked in the wrong place.
[16:36] <monique> is fedora good for powerpc?
[16:44] <tobor> Hi, I'm on Kubuntu 6.06 LTS, and I just changed monitors. Everytime I set the size and refresh rate using the system setting menu, it resets each time i log out.  What do i have to do to make the change permanent?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> !refresh
[16:45] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:46] <tobor> Whut? :)
[16:49] <zomgdonald> genjix
[16:49] <genjix> hey :)
[16:49] <zomgdonald> wtf
[16:53] <|PaperTiger|> Oh, how I hate Windows... It's installed.
[16:53] <|PaperTiger|> I think that's the quickest ever Windows install XD
[16:54] <anass> Hi , i had a 3G connexion and i successefely configure it with wvdial but now i want to automate it with a knetworkManager can i do it?
[17:00] <mkargar> i want change my audio system to ALSA!how to?(I use kubuntu 8.10!)
[17:02] <mkargar> please help me!
[17:06] <Guest30763> i have 1 partition ntfs and other fat32 i use ntfs3g and ntfs-config for  ntfs i cannt read any the name of files or folder written in arabic on fat32 partition and cannt copy or move it but i can in ntfs partition and tried to edit fat32 paramaters for fat32 but i didnt find it in fstab
[17:12] <Guest30763> lluikuku
[17:15] <TheGentleman> Hello. Can Anyone have a look at this ? http://pastebin.com/m752b8357
[17:16] <TheGentleman> it is the output i get when attempting to connect to a wifi network using wicd
[17:16] <TheGentleman> the same wicd works fine connected to a cable LAN
[17:16] <TheGentleman> o.s. is kubuntu 8.04
[17:17] <TheGentleman> it seems there is something wrong with D-bus or something Python... but I'm no expert at all about those
[17:18] <TheGentleman> I do not think it is really a wicd problem, for i tried it after realizing i was unable to make knetworkmanager work
[17:23] <Mr_Grieves|> Does anyone know when qt 4.5.0 will be available for 8.10?
[17:25] <andrius_> hi
[17:27] <andrius_> I've tried to update kde in intrepid but I'm sure I did something wrong, my plasma workspace is blank, I cannot add any plasmoid etc.. any idea?
[17:28] <andrius_> even Xine died
[17:34] <BluesKaj> andsrius , how did you upgrade ?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> err andrius_
[17:37] <andrius_> I tried with apt-get
[17:38] <Lego> !cURL
[17:38] <Lego> !libcurl
[17:39] <mkargar> i want change my audio system to ALSA!how to?(I use kubuntu 8.10!)
[17:39] <Lego> hey guys i installed glype proxy, and it says it requires cURL/libcurl. so i installed curl with apt-get install curl and it installed fine, but when i refresh the web page it still says it requires cURL/libcurl did i install the wrong thing?
[17:39] <andrius_> I've tried apt-getting kdebase-workspace, kubuntu-desktop and some other package
[17:40] <Lego> it finds the php version fine
[17:41] <mkargar> i want change my audio system to ALSA!how to?(I use kubuntu 8.10!)
[17:42] <Andrius> BluesKaj, what packages shall I install to restore plasma?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Andrius,  have you checked out : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2  ?
[17:44] <mkargar> please help me
[17:46] <Andrius> BluesKaj, I'm going to check it...
[17:46] <Mr_Grieves|> !ppa
[17:48] <Mr_Grieves|> Is there a place to search for ppa's?
[17:48] <Mr_Grieves|> Surely one of them has qt-4.5.0 in them...
[17:48] <Andrius> mkargar, have you tried sudo apt-get install alsa?
[17:49] <mkargar> Andrius:hmm?
[17:50] <mkargar> Andrius:it installed!how to change it from systemsettings?
[17:50] <Andrius> isn't it available in systemsettings?
[17:51] <mkargar> Andrius:which section?
[17:51] <mkargar> Andrius:in the which section/
[17:51] <mkargar> ?
[17:52] <mkargar> Andrius:i checked!it installed!
[17:53] <Andrius> Computer Administration | Multimedia -> backend tab
[17:53] <BluesKaj> mkargar,  in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key
[17:57] <Andrius> BluesKaj, update-notifier-kde -d has no effect
[17:57] <mkargar> BluesKaj:all unmuted!
[17:59] <XPS_M1330> did KDE 4.2.2 just come out in the repos?
[18:02] <Lego> !glype
[18:02] <Lego> !glypeproxyt
[18:02] <Lego> !glypeproxy
[18:02] <LjL> !botabuse
[18:02] <nflava> hi
[18:05] <nflava> anyone know why sometimes my taskbar disappears until i take my pointer over it?
[18:05] <Andrius> BluesKaj, I'm trying an apt-get upgrade
[18:05] <nflava> this is a new install from just the other day
[18:05] <etric> its the autohide feature nflava
[18:06] <nflava> well it doesnt totally disappera
[18:06] <nflava> just parts
[18:08] <nflava> its odd cause i have a fairly decent pc too
[18:08] <nflava> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3700+, 2.20 GHz, 1024KB Video: Direct3D HAL (1680x1050x32bpp 109hz) Sound: dmix:0 Memory: Used: 625/1002MB Uptime: 13h 2m 48s HD: Free: 51.92 GB/62.69 GB Connection: eth0 @ 0 bps (Rec: 293.87MB Sent: 2165.88MB)
[18:09] <nflava> i bet its my video driver
[18:09] <nflava> i had to use some dirrerent one that kubuntu suggested
[18:19] <slow-motion> hi
[18:26] <cuznt> !hi
[18:33] <nephilus> how do you open the sources list in kubuntu?
[18:36] <XPS_M1330> do you guys have that bug with the task manager that won't  split windows in 2 rows (when max rows = 2) unless you use the "force max rows" option?
[18:41] <nephilus> how do you add a panel?
[18:57] <vignesh> Hi All
[18:57] <vignesh> I use kubuntu 8.10, I have installed the deb package from adobe site, but still cant play flash file in konqueror
[18:57] <vignesh> do I need to do anything else
[19:05] <shock_day13> hey fellows
[19:06] <shock_day13> does anyone know how to upgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2.2
[19:08] <xavier> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:08] <shock_day13> hey xavier
[19:08] <shock_day13> do you know how to upgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2.2
[19:08] <xavier> shock_day13:  ola
[19:09] <xavier> shock_day13 no se ingles
[19:09] <xavier> xD
[19:09] <shock_day13> ohk
[19:13] <lnx> ff
[19:14] <w-heat> shock_day13: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[19:14] <snakedog> hi, how can i setup an account that has practically no priveliges, i only want to use it for ssh tunneling
[19:14] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[19:14] <CPrgmSwR2> I cannot believe how well linux is working on my labtop
[19:15] <CPrgmSwR2> With the exception of sleep/hibranate, everything else seems to be working
[19:17] <cybernet-servido> ajuda sobre jogos alguem pode me informa
[19:34] <Shesma> hi there
[19:34] <Shesma> I have a question
[19:34] <Shesma> I have installed KDE 4.1 on ubuntu and i have some errors and crazy things are going
[19:35] <Shesma> i need to reinstall it to the latest version 4.2.2
[19:35] <Shesma> can you refer me to documentation or help me please
[19:35] <Shesma> ???
[19:47] <w-heat> Shesma: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[19:47] <w-heat> oh, you've gone
[19:47] <w-heat> nice patience
[19:50] <ubuntu> yo
[19:51] <ubuntu> im running the kubuntu 9.04 beta live, i was trying to install nvidia drivers... but there came up an empty error window
[19:51] <ubuntu> why? and will it work when kubuntu 9.04 is releases?
[19:51] <ubuntu> d
[19:52] <ubuntu> anyone here?
[19:54] <shock_day13> does anyone know how to upgrade from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2.2
[19:55] <aga> shock_day13: i think you need to add a repository, then you will have the packages
[19:56] <aga> i may try to find it in more detail
[19:57] <shock_day13> which repository?
[19:57] <aga> i think the one i added was ppa.launchpad...
[19:57] <aga> just let me try to find the guide to do it
[19:58] <aga> i am so bad to reproduce what i have done before
[19:58] <aga> h/o
[19:58] <shock_day13> lol
[19:58] <shock_day13> ok
[19:58] <aga> i do things, then i forget how i did it ;)
[19:58] <aga> brb
[19:59] <aga> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[20:00] <louis_> can someone explain to me how i can enter the gay channel
[20:01] <shock_day13> thnx a lot
[20:01] <aga> no problem shock_day13 :)
[20:01] <shock_day13> i'll give it a try
[20:01] <aga> it's easy... i managed :))))
[20:01] <aga> if you need anything just come and ask
[20:02] <aga> louis_:  you know the name already? should be enough with /join #channelname
[20:02] <shock_day13> so u r using kde 4.2.2 currently?
[20:02] <aga> yeap shock_day13 from today morning
[20:02] <aga> it is already in the repos
[20:02] <shock_day13> k cool
[20:03] <aga> at least appeared for me today morning, dunno when they added it
[20:04] <shock_day13> k
[20:04] <shock_day13> im using kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.1
[20:04] <shock_day13> and i wanted to upgrade to 4.2
[20:04] <shock_day13> today morning i got the news that 4.2.2 is released
[20:04] <draik_> Good day everyone!
[20:04] <aga> yep... follow the steps on that link... it will upgrade
[20:04] <shock_day13> so i couldnt stop myself
[20:05] <aga> once you finish, you will probably have it
[20:05] <aga> :)
[20:05] <albi> hi
[20:05] <aga> hi albi and hi draik_
[20:05] <draik_> Hello aga
[20:06] <shock_day13> k
[20:06] <albi> i have a problem: i'm trying to upgrad intrepid to jaunty but i get the following error:
[20:06] <shock_day13> hey draik, hey albi
[20:07] <albi> "trying to install blacklisted version python2.6_2.6.1..."
[20:07] <draik_> Hello shock_day13
[20:07] <albi> the window will close and nothing has been changed
[20:08] <shock_day13> hey albi are you a programmer or a developer?
[20:08] <albi> ..i think i am a user
[20:09] <shock_day13> then dont upgrade to jaunty yet
[20:09] <shock_day13> its a beta release
[20:09] <shock_day13> which has many bugs
[20:09] <albi> i know
[20:09] <albi> its just a try
[20:09] <shock_day13> hmmm
[20:09] <albi> its not on my main machine
[20:09] <shock_day13> oh
[20:09] <aga> albi:  for jaunty issues the best place is #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <DarthFrog> albi: Upgrades from Intrepid to Jaunty are shut off right now, until the Python issue is resolved.
[20:10] <albi> oh ok
[20:11] <ross_> can anyone tell me what I should be using for my nick server?
[20:11] <albi> that must be the actual problem
[20:11] <shock_day13> and anyways you'll have to wait for only 18 more days b4 the official relese
[20:12] <albi> yes i know ^^
[20:12] <aga> hmm your nick server ross_??
[20:12] <albi> but a project will start at my school in two weeks
[20:13] <shock_day13> ohk
[20:13] <ross_> I had a nick registered with a nick server, and whenever I logged in here, it automatically used my nick, but I had to rebuild my system and I've lost those settings...
[20:13] <albi> and i have to decide which ubuntu version to use
[20:14] <shock_day13> well kubuntu is the best
[20:14] <shock_day13> ubuntu is very simple to use though
[20:15] <albi> i mean intrepid or jaunty? but i'm sure that it's going to be kde
[20:15] <shock_day13> oh ok
[20:16] <shock_day13> hey aga did upgrading from 4.1 to 4.2 deleted your previous applications and all?
[20:16] <aga> i always use the last release which is not too old or just released... after the official release i give it a month or so, and then i upgrade
[20:16] <aga> hmm not that i have noticed shock_day13... everything is there, but you won't be able to use any previous widget
[20:16] <aga> from  kde 4.1
[20:16] <aga> seems they are not compatible or something
[20:16] <shock_day13> but there will be new ones right?
[20:17] <aga> yeap but not exactly the same new ones...
[20:17] <ross_> I don't remember what
[20:17] <aga> aha ross_ then maybe you ccan go to #freenode and ask the staff to make a sendpass... i guess they should be able
[20:17] <shock_day13> the widgets tht i use are analog clock, dictionary, calculator, luna and garfield comic strip
[20:18] <aga> to send a password to your registration email
[20:18] <aga> hmmm i don't use any of those shock_day13 it may happen they won't work
[20:18] <aga> i can give a try if you want to
[20:18] <shock_day13> well it's worth taking that risk
[20:18] <aga> i can tell you, kde 4.2.2 is really nice
[20:19] <aga> i miss my picture frame but well... more was lost in the war i guess
[20:19] <shock_day13> yup it is
[20:19] <shock_day13> i have used it with opensuse 11.1
[20:20] <shock_day13> hey aga what are plasmoids?
[20:20] <ross_> there
[20:20] <aga> plasmoids = widgets
[20:20] <shock_day13> oh ok
[20:20] <rosco_y> .
[20:21] <Mr_Grieves|> Hrm, I just updated to KDE 4.2.2, and now the keyboard doesn't work in KDE
[20:21] <Mr_Grieves|> It works in ratpoison and in the VT's
[20:21] <Mr_Grieves|> Any ideas of what could be missing from kde that would do this?
[20:23] <alin> hi
[20:23] <aga> hi alin
[20:23] <shock_day13> hey alin
[20:23] <illmortal> Does anyone know why after installing Kubuntu, grub doesn't work? After installing Kubuntu or even Ubuntu none of them won't show up on a OS list, instead Windows just loads directly
[20:24] <alin> somebody tell me why i can't browse t the internet with konqueror
[20:24] <aga> windows... xp or vista?
[20:24] <francisco> hello
[20:24] <aga> hi francisco
[20:24] <alin> it looks like it founds the sites but no display
[20:25] <shock_day13> your grub must've been not configured properly during installation
[20:25] <alin> ?
[20:25] <aga> i have no idea alin never used konqueror
[20:25] <illmortal> shock_day13, was I not supposed to create a "/boot" partition and also a "/" partition?
[20:25] <aga> happens with every website? (i.e)
[20:25] <alin> only /
[20:25] <alin> yes
[20:25] <aga> hmm no illmortal you dont create the /boot partition
[20:26] <shock_day13> well usually i create a / partition only
[20:26] <aga> google included alin?
[20:26] <shock_day13> try doing that
[20:26] <alin> it founds them but doesn't display
[20:26] <illmortal> Hm... well I tried / partition and /boot partition and both failed :(
[20:26] <aga> illmortal:  i create a / and i think i do not set the flag bootable on it
[20:26] <alin> yes
[20:26] <alin> first use worked fine
[20:26] <aga> but it has been really long time since i had dual boot last time
[20:27] <alin> but after
[20:27] <alin> no
[20:27] <illmortal> aga, should windows be on a separate HDD?... no right? No difference
[20:27] <aga> alin:  just a little tip...is easier for the people around if you just try to explane your problem at the same time in a line (no matter how long)
[20:27] <shock_day13> it wont make any difference
[20:27] <aga> hmmmm in a separate partition, yes
[20:27] <aga> but not in a separate hdd
[20:28] <alin> ok
[20:28] <aga> i think the problem is on how you're setting it up from the partitioner... i think i never give the flag bootable to /
[20:28] <aga> and i am really sure i never created /boot
[20:29] <shock_day13> alin try creating only / and swap partitions
[20:29] <aga> illmortal:  mind showing your fstab?
[20:29] <alin> i have / and swap only
[20:29] <aga> you can put it in pastebin
[20:29] <aga> http://pastebin.org i think
[20:30] <alin> maybe i sould install mozilla to see how it works
[20:30] <shock_day13> then wht abt /boot?
[20:30] <shock_day13> oh sorry alin
[20:30] <shock_day13> that message was for illmortal
[20:31] <draik_> I'm not sure what is happening, but I keep losing the connection to my Internet (wired) on my desktop.
[20:31] <draik_> Only resolution is restarting the computer
[20:31] <draik_> Is there a way around this?
[20:32] <shock_day13> i had the same problem with suse
[20:32] <shock_day13> so i switched to kubuntu
[20:33] <yoritomo> hello all
[20:33] <alin> repo for mozilla?anybody
[20:33] <draik_> shock_day13: No solution found?
[20:33] <draik_> Hello yoritomo
[20:33] <shock_day13> nope
[20:33] <draik_> !info mozilla
[20:33] <aga> alin:  in a terminal apt-cache search mozilla
[20:33] <aga> you will find all packages related
[20:34] <aga> id rather do apt-cache search firefox
[20:34] <aga> that will narrow a bit the results i think
[20:34] <aga> time to sleep :)
[20:34] <aga> night
[20:34] <shock_day13> adios aga
[20:34] <aga> hasta lueguito ;)
[20:34] <yoritomo> i reinstalled kubuntu and after installation of nvidia driver big roblem on reboot, logon screen sreen off, after ctrl-alt-+ coming back, but when kde launching kwin error with this message:
[20:34] <yoritomo> http://pastebin.com/d1d84745d
[20:35] <yoritomo> somebody can help me  ?
[20:35] <illmortal> aga, unfortunately because I cannot log into Kubuntu, I cannot gain access to that.
[20:36] <mario__> hols
[20:36] <illmortal> night aga.
[20:36] <mario__> hi
[20:37] <mario__> I am new using Kubuntu
[20:37] <shock_day13> welcome to the club mario
[20:38] <yoritomo> somebody checked my log ? it is short
[20:41] <illmortal> Can anyone assist me on getting grub to work so that I can get a list of OS to choose from? I can't access Kubuntu nor the partition it's on.
[20:43] <yoritomo> see the link above to pastebin
[20:43] <shock_day13> illmortal try installing kubuntu again
[20:43] <shock_day13> and this time create only / and swap partitions
[20:44] <illmortal> I've installed Ubuntu on / partition and it still doesn't load =\ so I tried /boot + / partition and still no go, shock_day13
[20:44] <shock_day13> and dont do any changes to bootloader
[20:44] <illmortal> Wait... I need to create a swap partition?... I have 16gb of ram
[20:45] <shock_day13> 16gb????????????
[20:45] <illmortal> yeah.. that's why I don't make a swap partition... unless it's manditory?
[20:45] <illmortal> mandatory*
[20:45] <shock_day13> ohk
[20:45] <OutoLumo> It's not mandatory.
[20:46] <mkargar> hello!how to change Audio system to alsa from way ''systemsettings''?i using Kubuntu 8.10 by kde 4.1!
[20:46] <alin> i can't install firefox via apt-get
[20:46] <draik_> alin: Did you use sudo?
[20:46] <alin> yep
[20:46] <draik_> What the error message?
[20:46] <illmortal> I use the manual not guided, I choose the slave HDD (primary HDD is my storage HDD) and try to install it on the 3rd partition of the slave HDD
[20:46] <OutoLumo> Can't be, as ubuntu is installeable on an USB-stick, where the swap is defined to be /tmpfs, i.e. RAM
[20:47] <OutoLumo> or something, I don't recall the details offhand
[20:48] <illmortal> eh... I'm gonna attempt to install Kubuntu again =\
[20:48] <alin> tells me it's already latest version but no mozilla in my computer
[20:48] <glick> how can i create an archive in kubuntU?
[20:48] <glick> im trying to zip up a filder
[20:48] <glick> folder
[20:49] <glick> you would think that right clicking on it would have an option to zip it
[20:49] <glick> anyone?
[20:50] <mkargar> hello!how to change Audio system to alsa from way ''systemsettings''?i using Kubuntu 8.10 by kde 4.1!
[20:50] <fosco__> !sound
[20:53] <glick> anyone know how i can creat a zip file out of a folder?
[20:53] <glick> seems i cant use ark cause it doesnt support folders
[20:54] <mkargar> ubottu:''Enable the sound system''???!
[20:55] <glick> j
[20:59] <mkargar> hello!how to change Audio system to alsa from way ''systemsettings''?i using Kubuntu 8.10 by kde 4.1!
[21:00] <pascweb> salut
[21:04] <alin> hi again
[21:07] <alin>  i solved my problem with konqueror
[21:07] <alin> i desabled cache
[21:13] <LeeJunFan> I'm looking for a simple GUI tool that can record webcam and audio to avi (etc), I've tried cheese and camstream, neither works.
[21:28] <wizardslovak> hello people
[21:29] <wizardslovak> i m bored as hell today , wonder what i can do on kubuntu lolz
[21:31] <yoritomo> somebody uses a nvidia fx5200 under ubuntu using the driver 173 ?
[21:32] <wizardslovak> i used to use it but i dont remember what driver i had
[21:32] <wizardslovak> it worked fine
[21:33] <yoritomo> me i have a big bug on kwin with this driver :( on generic it is ok
[21:33] <yoritomo> do you still have a copy of your xorg.conf ? could help
[21:34] <wizardslovak> nah man i wish i can help you, as i said i had i loong time ago
[21:34] <yoritomo> ho ok thanks anyway
[21:34] <wizardslovak> i remember i was getting driver with apt-get
[21:36] <yoritomo> but here it was provided by the proprietary driver utility
[21:37] <wizardslovak> !info nvidia
[21:37] <wizardslovak> !info fx5200
[21:38] <yoritomo> in fact it is driver nvidia 173
[21:38] <draik_> !info envy
[21:38] <draik_> !envy
[21:40] <yoritomo> it is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/d72aa516a
[21:45] <wizardslovak> !nVidia
[21:48] <psyco> hey, how do i get my ntfs partition to auto mount on boot?
[21:51] <yoritomo> thanks wizardslovak
[21:57] <Raylz> when can we expect kde 4.2.3 packages to arrive?
[21:58] <rachael_> prolly when theyve stopped messing around with kde windoze
[22:05] <haakonn> am i the only one for whom the kde panel freezes 5-6 times a day in kde 4.2.2 (and older)? i've tried removing stuff from the panel to isolate the problem, but nothing helps. it's really annoying because the clock also freezes so in my head i'm often "losing" several hours before i notice it has frozen. to restart it, i right-click it to trigger a crash+restart. #kde people have never seen this and suggest it's a packaging issue. help?
[22:06] <XenaLinuxPrincss> nope - sorry. the only freezes ive had have been due to other issues
[22:06] <haakonn> the freezes seem to happen randomly and not being triggered by anything obvious
[22:08] <XenaLinuxPrincss> itsitits
[22:08] <XenaLinuxPrincss> its only happened to me during/after a failed update
[22:08] <haakonn> i see
[22:08] <XenaLinuxPrincss> if that helps
[22:09] <haakonn> probably not related
[22:11] <XenaLinuxPrincss> probably not
[22:11] <yoritomo> Ichigo` c'est un driver capricieux
[22:11] <aga> haakonn:  i had the same after the update, try disabling all plasmoids and using only kde 4.2.2 ones
[22:11] <aga> check if that helps
[22:12] <aga> you can leave the panel and the folderview... those work for sure.
[22:12] <aga> if it's not that. you may want to try killing and restarting plasma...
[22:14] <haakonn> would i have plasmoids that are not 4.2.2?
[22:14] <aga> well haakonn i really do not know if it's the same issue.. but any plasmoid prior to 4.2.2 causes my panel to freeze and i need to restart x to get it back
[22:15] <haakonn> ah, sounds different. i can just pkill plasma or even just right-click the panel
[22:15] <aga> i can do all that, just the panel is frozen
[22:15] <haakonn> which makes it actually crash so it restarts itself
[22:15] <aga> restart x is faster for me when i got fed up :p
[22:16] <haakonn> that's too annoying :)
[22:16] <aga> well just log in log out ... sort of
[22:16] <aga> i can still change windows with alt+tab and so on... just the panel is dead
[22:16] <haakonn> that's not "just". i have all my windows and work open, takes time to reconstruct that :)
[22:17] <aga> i would give a shot to use only 4.2.2 plasmoids and check if it improves
[22:17] <aga> apart of restart or not restart x ;)
[22:17] <haakonn> well i don't think i have any non-4.2.2 plasmoids
[22:17] <aga> are you using any plasmoid you were using before the update?
[22:18] <aga> because i can see all the old ones in add widgets
[22:18] <Mr_Grieves|> Hrm I added a bad repo by mistake and installed some packages that screwed up my system.
[22:18] <haakonn> yes, but after the update i restarted X
[22:18] <Mr_Grieves|> Nothing too bad, I've been able to roll back most of the packages.
[22:18] <aga> doesn't matter haakonn, plasmoids from 4.2.1 are not compatible with 4.2.2
[22:19] <Mr_Grieves|> But there are still a few packages left that are causing problems, and I can't find them.
[22:19] <haakonn> aga:  but i would think my 4.2.1 plasmoids got updated to 4.2.2, no? they are just standard plasmoids, nothing third-party or anything
[22:19] <Mr_Grieves|> I've removed the repo, and the packages from it show "now" where the repo's name would be.
[22:19] <aga> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[22:19] <aga> hmm they should haakonn but for some reason, they don't
[22:19] <Mr_Grieves|> Is there a way to search for all the packages with the "now" tag?
[22:19] <aga> that's why the guys in #kde suggest a bad package issue
[22:20] <haakonn> aga:  interesting, thanks
[22:20] <aga> which i am not sure if its true or not, but that's what leads them to that conclusion... i just know what that link says
[22:20] <aga>  no problem haakonn
[22:21] <aga> i do not even know if everybody's having issues either
[22:25] <Mr_Grieves|> Any ideas?
[22:26] <Mr_Grieves|> Since this happened my keyboard has stopped working in kde
[22:26] <myselftion_> someone can help me?
[22:26] <Mr_Grieves|> still works in x (e.g. ratpoison
[22:26] <aga> myselftion_:  just state your question... whoever knows will answer
[22:26] <Mr_Grieves|> just not inside kde :(
[22:26] <aga> Mr_Grieves|:  maybe try to move the kde folder... and see what happens?
[22:26] <Mr_Grieves|> aga -- will try.
[22:26] <aga> i do not know if it's gonna help but it's not gonna harm for sure
[22:27] <myselftion_> wanna download some elinks from firefox but when i click on them, they ask me the sooftware i wanna use, but i dont' know where transmission is :S
[22:27] <aga> myselftion_:  you cannot use elinks with transmission...
[22:29] <aga> you can check where something is just writing whereis 'whatever' in a terminal (changing 'whatever' for what you're looking for)
[22:29] <myselftion_> wanna download some elinks from firefox but when i click on them, they ask me the sooftware i wanna use, but i dont' know where transmission is :S
[22:30] <yoritomo> Ichigo` ha après quelques lecture je pense a une chose, ma carte a deux port, un vga et un "hdmi c'est ca?"  est ce que l'image ne se mettrait pas sur le deuxième connecteur ? par une option ou l'autre?
[22:30] <aga> !fr
[22:30] <yoritomo> sorry i mistaked chan
[22:30] <aga> np :)
[22:31] <myselftion_> yorito qu'est-ce que tu veux savoir?
[22:31] <myselftion_> aga! i'm victorª!
[22:31] <myselftion_> aga! i'm victor! ^^
[22:31] <aga> hi :)
[22:32] <yoritomo> i have a nvidia graphic adapter, fx5200 if i install the 173 driver i get a black screen on restart
[22:32] <myselftion_> c mieu si tu parles franC
[22:32] <myselftion_> ;)
[22:32] <yoritomo> maybe an option switch the display to the numeric plug?
[22:32] <aga> we don't really speak french here myselftion_...
[22:33] <aga> try to keep the english as much as possible or join #ubuntu-fr
[22:33] <aga> no idea yoritomo never had to fight with nvidia sorry
[22:33] <myselftion_> aga ii've finnally taken gnome ;) i find the way to make it nice and beautiful ^^
[22:33] <aga> it's all about taste i guess
[22:37] <thebe> hello!!
[22:37] <thebe> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[22:37] <thebe> 150 Ok to send data.
[22:37] <thebe> netout: Connection reset by peer
[22:37] <thebe> 451 Failure writing to local file.
[22:37] <thebe> what is the cause of this problem??
[22:37] <thebe> could you help me??
[22:38] <Mr_Grieves|> aga: that fixed it -- the .kde/share/config folder in particular.
[22:38] <thebe> ls
[22:39] <aga> well Mr_Grieves| glad it did... it was kind of a blind shot ;)
[22:39] <Mr_Grieves|> I'm going to start randomly moving files from that folder until I find the one that's causing the problem.
[22:39] <Mr_Grieves|> Any ideas which one it may be? ;)
[22:39] <aga> hahahah Mr_Grieves| no more ideas sorry :p
[22:39] <Mr_Grieves|> :P
[22:39] <Mr_Grieves|> This is going to be a loooong day...
[22:39] <Mr_Grieves|> :)
[22:40] <aga> heheh night on my place :p
[22:40] <aga> i'll be gone to sleep within 10 minutes... it's already been a loooong day for me
[22:42] <fyn> i upgraded and it killed my sound, it was weeks ago and i haven't bothered dealing with it so now it's harder to determine which but i think it was going to 4.2.0, maybe phonon did something there?  what happens is that mplayer smokes off kde's access to sound in some awesome way where even restarting alsa doesn't fix it.  how do i make other sound systems die and everything just use dmix so it's simple and works?  i could turn off arts, can i turn off pho
[22:42] <Mr_Grieves|> Well, it's something that starts with ka*. That narrows it down quite a bit...
[22:42] <aga> curious how you got to know that Mr_Grieves|
[22:42] <aga> ??
[22:44] <KomiaPoika> hi
[22:44] <KomiaPoika> how do i turn off powerdevil
[22:44] <Mr_Grieves|> aga -- cd ~/.kde/share/config; mkdir tmp; mv ka* tmp; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:44] <Mr_Grieves|> :)
[22:44] <Mr_Grieves|> Figured I'd just kill off a bunch of files at once...
[22:44] <Mr_Grieves|> it was kaccessrc, fwiw :)
[22:45] <aga> hehehe Mr_Grieves| i didn't follow but i'm glad you can type ;)
[22:46] <fyn> anyone have a bunch of sound issues due to upgrades these past few weeks?
[22:46] <Mr_Grieves|> basically moved everything that started with ka in kde's config directory to a new folder and started kde to see if it'd work.
[22:46] <aga> yes but why ka?
[22:47] <aga> i just suggested to move the whole kde dir, so i am curious how did you got to find out it was something starting by ka*
[22:48] <aga> however, it's time to sleep
[22:48] <Mr_Grieves|> Well, first I moved .kde, then I put it back and only moved .kde/config.
[22:48] <aga> ahaaaaa
[22:48] <aga> so you have narrowed little by little :)
[22:48] <Mr_Grieves|> When that fixed the problem, I knew the problem was with some file in .kde/config, and rather than move the hundreds of files one by one, I did it the lazy way :)
[22:49] <aga> hehehe
[22:49] <Mr_Grieves|> in chuncks, alphabetically :)
[22:49] <aga> well thanks god it was not starting by kz :P
[22:49] <Mr_Grieves|> g'night aga -- thanks for the tip :)
[22:49] <Mr_Grieves|> Indeed!
[22:49] <aga> no problem glad to be helpful :)
[22:49] <aga> night night
[23:00] <kbittin> hi i got a question how do i check what Kubuntu version iam on in an easy way?
[23:03] <thebe> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[23:03] <thebe> 553 Could not create file.
[23:04] <thebe> this is the error message during ftp upload, what should be the cause??
[23:04] <thebe> please let me know
[23:10] <x_link> Hi!
[23:10] <x_link> Is there any command I can use to find out which version of Kubuntu I'm using?
[23:11] <XenaLinuxPrincss> it lists it in grub at boot if you go into the menu
[23:11] <x_link> But shouldn't it be a command I can use?
[23:12] <kbittin> i fixed it :)
[23:15] <wizardslovak> hello
[23:16] <wizardslovak> so 've decided ill learn mysql
[23:16] <wizardslovak> i want to edit my conf file "gedit /etc/mysql/mt/cnf" i am getting error --->gtk-warning cannot open display
[23:16] <wizardslovak> any ideas??
[23:17] <wizardslovak> !kate
[23:20] <wizardslovak> join ubuntuserver
[23:21] <wizardslovak> join #ubuntu-server
[23:25] <austin2> hi
[23:25] <kbittin> hi
[23:27] <thebe> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
[23:27] <thebe> 553 Could not create file.
[23:27] <thebe> how 2 solve?
[23:28] <austin2> I acually use Ubuntu
[23:30] <BenPA> hi everyone ... I have an Kubuntu issue
[23:36] <Guest3046> help I am a big noob
[23:38] <azmike> Hello
[23:41] <draik_> My Internet connection keeps dropping on the desktop. What would be the cause of this?
[23:45] <famelix> #kubuntu-es
[23:45] <flores> hey
[23:46] <draik_> I'm noticing that it occurs mostly during constant downloads like updates from the repos and even a constant download of a file (XP SP2 and 3 for someone's desktop).
[23:50] <famelix> olok0
[23:51] <tweakedeh> Where could I go to get a password hash cracked? I've had john running all night and got nothing
[23:51] <BenPA> hi everyone ... I have an Kubuntu issue  ... this was a joke folks the issue is that I have no issues at the moment
[23:55] <flores> hi, i've just installed kubuntu and updating it now, what should i do after that?