[00:00] Ienorand: err, you're saying a+p+k is a userspace X shortcut? not just magic sysrq? [00:00] there has got to be a simple sound recorder for KDE 4... ! [00:01] @noxsp [00:01] !nozap [00:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about nozap [00:01] !dontzap [00:01] To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable » [00:01] there we go [00:01] eheh [00:01] sleepy? [00:01] yeah [00:01] crdlb: Yes, from what I've understood it's separate from the SysRq combinations... [00:04] Ienorand: hmm, well it _is_ a magic sysrq combination (kill whatever is on the current VT) [00:04] I guess it could be in both for cases where magic sysrq isn't available though [00:05] well, it's not there again [00:07] Heh, tried that without pressing the final K, not the best idea: http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshoty.png [00:09] BUGabundo, ok I think I got it its atop -w filename -a [seconds] [intervals] (Then in the /var/log do atop -r filename -b [time you want shown like 16:45] :D [00:10] what do you guys think of bug 354844 ? [00:10] Launchpad bug 354844 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install should offer tasksell " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354844 [00:10] BUGabundo, read up one :D [00:11] what package is the gui installer? [00:12] (for filing a bug on launchpad) [00:13] themiddleman: ubiquity, I think [00:14] that's hard word to type (mechanically) [00:14] Does anybody know which is a dependable mirror to use? [00:14] US or otherwise? [00:15] gundam_rx78nt1: eheh still having trouble? [00:15] BUGabundo: yep. seems like my middle name is really catching up to me. [00:16] gundam_rx78nt1: that's really strange [00:17] shouldn't be happening will servers [00:17] have you tried main? [00:17] I got 3 ror Not Found errors so far from the ftp.utexas.edu [00:17] I was on main when you told me to switch :D [00:17] or was I???? [00:18] no [00:18] you were on an us mirror [00:18] I just looked at it. [00:18] Let me change. [00:18] :( by the time I am done with this... I should become an expert on mirrors. [00:18] Look ma' no reflections. [00:19] Anyone know when Python is to be fully fixed? I have an issue with TorrentFlux, Python-crypto, and downloading Piratebay .torrent files [00:23] quietas: I guess it fell amoung the cracks [00:23] file a bug please [00:25] BUGAbundo: There's a bit on the launchpad.net site, but no info if it has been integrated yet. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-crypto/+bug/337073 [00:25] Launchpad bug 337073 in python-crypto "python-crypto uses sha module that's deprecated in python2.6 (dup-of: 269429)" [Medium,Fix released] [00:25] Launchpad bug 269429 in pycrypto "pycrypto-2.0.1 uses md5 & sha1 modules which will be deprecated in 2.6/3.0" [Undecided,Fix committed] [00:25] hehe [00:25] I mean against those apps that are failing [00:25] can do [00:28] If someone has a spare moment and is using compiz, could you see this bug happens to you too: Turn the Water Effect plugin on, and see if the default Ctrl+Super keybinding does anything [00:28] * crdlb can't use water :< [00:29] crdlb: some card don't! [00:29] * MenZa is on intel; wouldn't risk it. [00:29] Aww. [00:29] BUGabundo: I know this firsthand :) [00:29] It works on my netbook [00:29] (intel) [00:29] o_O [00:29] maxb: that's with mvo [00:30] this is a 32MB radeon 7500 M [00:30] BUGabundo: What do you mean? [00:30] it doesn't take much, but I'm nowhere close :) [00:30] the dev that mantains it [00:38] Hmm, i think I'll have to take back what I said earlier on APK and CAB, on closer examination they seem dissimilar, judgin by the kernel messages given... And APK does indeed have something to do with SysRq... gives the "SAK" message(?) [00:43] it's beyond me that theres no kde sound recorder in any repos [00:44] synaptics was reset on resume, see synaptics_resume_reset if you have trouble on resume [00:44] man synaptics_resume_reset [00:44] No manual entry for synaptics_resume_reset [00:48] I always get that [00:48] does it affect you ? [00:50] Hmm, I'm just curious what they mean by "see synaptics_resume_reset".... it seems it's not a man page as one would think. [00:51] DanaG→ Maybe they just want you to look at the string. [00:53] I wish I could figure out where the damned l................... [00:53] ..............ag is coming from. [00:53] Yes, that's a sort of a joke. [00:53] DanaG, what lag is this? [00:54] lemme' link you. [00:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105717 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112735 [00:55] DanaG, you can't possibly be using the nvidia blob [00:56] I'm using fglrx, and it affects both metacity-with-composite and compiz. [00:56] http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16284 [00:57] i thought they fixed the composite problems with that old piece of garbage driver [00:57] It was fine with fglrx just last week (or so). [00:57] It just broke for me very recently. [00:58] how anyone tolerates linux without an nvidia system is totally beyond me. all of you have intestinal fortitude well beyond human comprehension. [00:58] I had my fair share of issues with my previous nvidia-based laptop, too. [00:58] Oh, and try using an nvidia-legacy card.... it just segfaults xorg. === crus0r is now known as crus [00:59] try using my card and you'll have no issues at all [00:59] I remember literally 6 months of *BLINK* ............. *BLINK*................ *twitch* .............. [00:59] from nvidia, until they finally fixed it. [01:00] nvidia is almost as bad... and there is less howtos.... [01:00] in 16 months of owning this card, i have not had one showstopper and i've run ubuntu the whole time [01:00] And nvidia doesn't do xrandr 1.2. [01:01] right, they can't rotate [01:01] And nvidia doesn't give specs... so if you have a desupported card... you're stuck up a creek without a paddle. [01:01] They also can't use the gnome screen-resolution thing. [01:01] they ahve their own control panel app that works very well [01:02] what's a desupported card? [01:02] old junk? [01:02] Yeah. If it's old junk, then GIVE OUT THE DAMNED SPECS... [01:02] imagine, if you will, having nvidia-settings, ati-settings, intel-settings, sis-settings, mga-settings, via-settings, etc. [01:03] do you see why it's bad to have each vendor have their own crapware? [01:03] crdlb, does nvidia's driver work with no showstoppers or doesn't it? [01:03] they're drive developers, not desktop developers [01:03] driver* [01:04] it doesn't work on my gf2 [01:04] i'm not here complaining about all of the numerous problems with the intel driver. i'm not here talking about some bizarre thing when i try to minimize windows. compiz works as well as it could possibly work [01:05] Oh yeah, and the radeon (not fglrx!) driver itself has given me one thing I've never gotten even from nvidia: damn near PERFECTLY reliable suspend. [01:05] because your card is ridiculously powerful [01:05] crdlb, horsepower has nothing to do with it [01:05] it has everything to do with it [01:05] I don't expect a "hey, let's lie and call this geforce2 a geforce4!"-MX card to do much... but I do expect the damned thing not to make the X server SEGFAULT. [01:05] no it does not [01:05] my card is 3 generations out of date [01:06] It's always in nvidia. [01:06] yes intel has screwed up this cycle, but hopefully it'll be salvaged before release :) [01:06] bjsnider: and still 100x more than compiz needs [01:06] I am waiting for just one big thing on radeon: POWER MANAGEMENT. [01:06] my radeon doesn't use any power :D [01:07] * DanaG has RV635. [01:07] the suspend issues on nvidia hardware were fixed [01:08] you buy a laptop with an 8200m, the only problem you'll have is trying to find the time to play all of the hi-def movies that are played right off the gpu [01:08] Is it normal that I receive messages like ``[ 2105.931183] Out of memory: kill process 10065 (zsh) score 1218884 or a child'' on the command prompt [01:10] Oh, and HDR+AA in Oblivion (in Windows) is cool, too. [01:11] ryanakca: only if you're extremely out of memory :) [01:12] crdlb: Well, I have 512MB ram... and all I have running is mutt, GNU screen, zsh and kdm... shouldn't be taking up that much [01:12] ryanakca: apparently something is [01:13] crdlb: And, any way to find out what is? [01:13] did you attempt to read the zshall manpage? I could see how that might exhaust your memory :P [01:13] ugh, friggin' gnome mouse settings don't work. [01:13] that message seems to be suggesting that it was a child of zsh that was gobbling memory [01:14] crdlb: Ok. Since I use zsh as my shell, wouldn't every process be a child of it? [01:14] anything your ran in an interactive terminal, yes [01:14] * DanaG restarts xorg with an older core. [01:15] presumably dash is still your /bin/sh [01:15] crdlb: Hmmm... OK, thanks, I'll try my programs one by one. And yes, unless some package changed it [01:28] in case anyone comes in wondering why update manager doesn't show 9.04 in the distribution upgrade, this is the reason: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/354228 [01:28] Launchpad bug 354228 in python2.6 "package python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-1ubuntu8 failed to install/upgrade: " [High,Fix released] [01:29] savvas: actually I was just reading my email, and mvo stated it was fixed [01:29] so it's a question of propagating to mirrors now [01:32] is it possible to get the 9.04 notification icon style in 8.10? [01:32] hm, how are the kde 4.2 packages doing? [01:32] looks like i should wait for an upgrade [01:32] and take the experimental repos instead [01:33] I am still having issue with FIrefox and toolbox bookmark not going away in gmail. Anybody else? [01:33] Hammer89: no [01:33] bernhard: we are on 4.2.2 [01:33] thompa: google toolbar? [01:33] thompa: do you have a bug id for it? [01:33] not its just a book mark i dragged to toolbar. [01:34] BUGabundo: nice :) [01:34] hi BUGabundo [01:34] BUGabundo: still deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main ? [01:34] for gmail its always the message part of it there which i deleted ages ago [01:35] BUGabundo: Alrighty, thanks! === maco_ is now known as maco [01:35] Gmail-fwd ..."subject of email" [01:35] you guys all replying at the same time got me confused [01:35] :) [01:35] its 2am so take it easy on me [01:35] :) [01:35] ok [01:35] I don't know if its firefox or what [01:35] its only 8:35pm here [01:36] well it must be anyway [01:36] thompa: can you create a new profile and test? [01:36] firefox 3.0.8 [01:37] bah to old for me [01:37] I use 3.4 [01:37] 3.5 and 3.6 [01:37] BUGabundo: you got a link f [01:37] good idea, but then i have to open an email first [01:37] for 3.5 [01:37] I guess then I would know if its ubuntu or forefox [01:37] thiebaude: its in the archive, universe [01:37] thanks [01:37] you get BOTH installed [01:38] 3.0 and 3.5 [01:38] off to synaptic [01:38] gmail and firefox [01:38] to start it, type firefox-3.5 [01:38] thompa: you mean ubufox ? [01:38] if it will put deleted emails there its not good [01:39] maybe i haven't deleted it in gmail [01:39] but i cab remove other bookmarks there [01:39] *can, gmail comes back [01:40] Ill test it but I am not going to use it for a while [01:40] ok, what is the difference of firefox branding and non branding? [01:40] I don't understand what you are saying [01:40] BUGabundo: redular new install updated [01:41] *blah to dark here! [01:42] * BUGabundo to sleepy in here [01:42] The installer has lists Oslo in the wrong timezone (+2GMT) when it should be +1 [01:42] BUGabundo: no i can't remove any tool bar bookmarks on this box [01:42] comradekingu: please file a bug [01:42] there are a bunch of them wrong [01:42] thompa: please try to disable ubufox addon [01:43] BUGabundo: is than on by default or in restricte? [01:43] A seperate bug, or is there already a wrong timezone report i could add this to? [01:43] I don't have any [01:43] thompa: ah?? [01:43] I need to reboot and test new user . thanks [01:44] comradekingu: if you don't find one for your timezone, then new [01:44] im going to check the intel laptop also [01:44] BUGabundo: it is fixed, but I don't know if mvo enabled it back again :P [01:46] savvas: his email said he did [01:46] but tommorow we will know better [01:46] time for bed [01:46] ah cool [01:46] cy [01:46] gnight :) [01:49] I am just going to start with new user, anybody else having trouble removing firefox toolbar bookmarks? [01:49] Im running the beta build, not daily. There are too many wrong to file a seperate bugreport for each and every one. Most crosses arent even in the highlighted area [01:50] thompa: no, worked fine. [01:50] I think this was an upgrade from Ibex. thanks [01:51] grrrr... a string of notifications from liferea just completely suppressed a notification from gnome power manager telling me why it wouldn't open the shutdown dialog! [01:51] but creating new user fiixes it [01:52] thompa: Could always try disablinng/enabling extensions [01:52] high urgency notifications should really be treated the same way as confirmations; appearing alongside the existing notifications if necessary, and appearing on cue [01:52] it was all the bookmarks, they delete but come back when i reopen [01:53] I can add bookmarks though, oh well [02:05] I don't seem to have any "on battery" settings in my power manager prefs, might this be because I've installed without the battery plugged in? How can I get it back? === XenoP is now known as XenoPhoenix [02:11] isn't acpi supposed to be installed in Ubu, I can't invoke it from terminal... === XenoPhoenix is now known as XenoP === XenoP is now known as XenoPhoenix [02:30] Anyone have missing .gvfs due Jaunty udates? === Laruft is now known as Laruft|AFK [02:58] Anyone else experiencing freezes with ext4 under heavy IO? I'm using a a certain kernel that seems bug-free and would like other people to try it. [03:08] I was trying to do a full install to my USB drive and got the error message message saying, "GRUB failed to install-- this is a fatal error!" [03:10] anyone here? [03:15] yes, finally. The updates are downloading correctly! [03:15] after 3 hours of trying. [03:18] hello i have a question, i am currently using ubuntu 9.04 with encrypted lvm, i encrypted home also, now i am using vmware and there is disk activity in the machine, it automatically spikes my cpu to 100% all the time resulting in slow performance. [03:22] Think I might have an issue/bug with 9.04b? I use volume control to unmute the capture, but when I close it, it reverts to muted. [03:23] long journey to get here acce2451? [03:23] Not really, no. [03:23] Just went to #ubuntu, and someone said to try here. [03:23] same thing here. [03:23] #ubuntu-testing then #ubuntu, then here :D [03:25] So, can anyone actually help me? [03:26] help? [03:26] i also need help if anyone is generous with their time. [03:26] Or I can try another channel, doesn't matter to me... [03:27] well, i tried the default ubuntu and they asked me to come here. [03:27] Huh. [03:27] Same here. [03:27] looks like this place is dead unfortunately [03:27] Somehow this reminds me of KOL chat.... [03:27] oh well. [03:29] ack [03:29] don't leave! [03:29] *sigh* [03:29] just takes a while. Lots of these IRC channels work like email, almost :P [03:29] anybody knows the difference of firefox branding and non branding? [03:30] gundam_rx78nt1, like what? [03:30] and sorry. madman, I couldn't guess what your issue is. Have you tried searching Launchpad bug reports? [03:31] I am trying to install firefox and I have those two options for install. [03:31] oh [03:31] well the issue is when i do some file transfers, cpu spikes up at 100% [03:31] I really don't know why there is 2 different ones available on the repositories [03:31] is it because it's encrypted. [03:32] gundam_rx78nt1: One has the logo, one doesn't (I guess) [03:32] I could be wrong, but isnt the branding the firefox part of it? Without it you would just get iceweasel or similar [03:32] gundam_rx78nt1: The one without the logo is actually Free, the one without is about as non-Free as an "open source" project can get without completely taking away the code [03:33] err, the second one should be the one with it [03:33] Ok. thank you for the explanation. [03:33] off to break my box again. [03:49] hey I'm having a problem with boxee in jaunty [04:03] hello comradeking [04:03] why did you bring me here [04:05] raVen: --> Welcome to the Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope (beta) discussion channel [04:05] thank you..so jaunty jackalope is ubuntu 9.04? [04:05] yes [04:06] im curious about linux names..why is it so weird? [04:06] it's just a codename [04:07] yeah i know but the names are weird ^_^ [04:07] hey [04:07] anyone know what happened to the xen domU kernels that used to be in linux-image-xen? [04:08] Anyone try the Ubuntu portable yet? [04:08] me [04:08] guys...are these 283 updates for ubuntu 8.10 safe? [04:10] raVen: probably [04:16] mplayer can stop the gnome-screensaver with that heartbeat command, but it can't stop the fade out effect [04:18] lol [04:20] so i see the fade, but not the screensaver [04:22] So i was going to send in a bugreport, then firefox closed unexpectedly, so I tried to send that in, then firefox crashed a second time, and then the chash reporter crashed ;) [04:22] crash* [04:43] Hello all [04:43] Anyone here tested the beta version version 9.04 yet? [04:44] nope [04:44] not a soul :p [04:46] hey cwillu [04:56] .oO(^^) [05:02] * cwillu pokes yow|x2 with a stick [05:05] cwillu - just thought id let you know i got a freeze today on the mainline kernel. im using the default one right now, we'll see if it happens again. im almost sure its due to all of the video driver updates lately [05:06] yow|x2, looks like, good to know [05:13] yow|x2, keep me posted :) [05:13] will do cwillu [05:14] Hi, I'm running a macbook with Jaunty and my compiz is not working. Does anyone in here have a macbook with integrated intel gfx? [05:16] I've been getting compositing lagfreezes. [05:16] or rather, unminimize laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. [05:16] grodius, the intel graphics driver in jaunty is super-mega broken [05:17] grodius, release notes, and every bug on launchpad :p [05:17] grodius, it's broken at least as much as the titanic [05:17] meh. compiz [05:18] it should be better than the mac driver in 6 months though, once it has gallium and everything [05:19] I found someone in this channel with the same chipset as me before and they pasted me their xorg and it worked [05:19] but i lost my install [05:19] you lost it? where did you put it last? [05:19] grodius, and then updates happened, and stuff that wasn't working started working, and other stuff that was working broke, and so forth :p [05:19] grodius, AccelMethod "UXA" may have been the relevant option though [05:20] that's what i was thinking. i don't see what else could have been different in the xorg.conf file [05:20] cwillu: i will try [05:20] oldaccel, noaccel, vesa :p [05:21] he didn't say compiz was working well before :p [05:21] kudos to the ubuntu team for beating Fedora 11beta in benchmarks [05:21] teethdood, which benchmarks are these now? [05:22] bjsnider: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_fedora_q209&num=1 [05:23] i guess you missed this part: However, the development builds of Fedora 11 do have various debugging options enabled, which may partially explain these figures. Fedora 11 is also tracking GCC 4.4 instead of GCC 4.3 [05:23] and ubuntu is a month closer to release than fedora. it's really not a fair competition [05:24] bjsnider, but they showed fedora with a blue sky background! [05:24] good point [05:24] i stand corrected [05:25] * cwillu hates phoronix for their gratuitous page splitting and how they never link to anything but their own articles [05:25] quick, find the ubuntu link on that page :) [05:25] i'll bet fedora's intel driver and sound stack work much better than jaunty's by the end of their release cycle [05:25] trick question! it's not there! [05:28] so you're suggesting to use fedora 11 then? [05:28] god no [05:28] just checking :P [05:28] have you seen their package manager? horror show [05:28] Jaunty is still broken pretty bad? [05:29] daskreech, define bad [05:29] my desktop is working fine with nvidia [05:29] ok [05:29] many people are now working fine with intel [05:29] X was broken last Week [05:29] still broken? [05:29] for some [05:29] for some [05:29] red hat should replace yum with apt. texstar proved apt can work with rpms [05:30] cwillu: Hmm guess I'll try update again. If it's still broken can I submit something that would help ? [05:31] I tried Fedora.... god damn, that package manager makes me say.... "yuck" [05:31] =þ [05:31] Blatant pun. [05:31] You can end up with TWO different version of a package installed at the same time. [05:32] !yum [05:32] Uh, don't you mean !apt ? [05:32] daskreech, search launchpad for your chipset, there's probably already a bug posted about the exact problem you're having. Make sure you read everything you can though before posting, and that you're on the right bug, there's already a huge amount of noise on most of the intel bugs [05:32] cwillu: It's not Intel it's SIS [05:32] my bad :p [05:32] !botsnack [05:32] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [05:32] (see the importance of checking first?) :) [05:33] but again, there's probably a bug already on it, check launchpad [05:33] ok [05:33] I've found that going through the motions of reporting a bug is one of the better ways of searching launchpad [05:39] launchpad has one of the least efficient search engines i've seen [05:41] I"M finding that out now [05:42] bjsnider: perhaps cos it is 1 of the few that google dosent kontrol..? [05:49] frybye, i guess you're saying that if google did "control" launchpad's search engine, it would be a lot better [05:49] bjsnider: not at all! [05:49] actually that is what you said [05:50] just that they seem to have a corner on much of the smart search-tech... [05:50] i said launchpad's search engine isn't efficient, and you said that's because google doesn't control it. meaning it would be efficient if google did control it [05:51] no - my poinnt was that a bit lamer search engine is a small price to pay when it means that the are indipendent of the dark empire... [05:52] or something like that! ;=) [05:52] google employs linus torvalds's right hand man andrew morton [05:53] just means they know where the brains are to be found in todays society.. [05:54] you're paying them another compliment then [05:54] you seem to respect this "dark empire" [05:55] !ot | frybye, bjsnider [05:55] frybye, bjsnider: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [05:58] rww: Jaunty is NOT RELEASED and NOT SUPPORTED [05:59] and yes #ubuntu - is a support channel- we are not on #ubuntu..or?? [05:59] frybye, lose the caps [05:59] frybye: That factoid should probably have an #ubuntu+1-specific variant. Nevertheless, non-Jaunty discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks. [06:00] frybye, and stay on topic here. [06:00] baz - copied from #-theme.. [06:07] Does anyone else have the Notification indicator disappear randomly ? [06:10] 'Partman with exit code 141'. someone pls tell me what it means? I am trying to install kubuntu from linux without cd... [06:10] failed [06:10] without? [06:11] yup without cd [06:11] installting from the ISO image? [06:11] yup [06:12] i followed the procedure from ubuntuhelp [06:13] <[GuS]> Hi Guys!!... i am having a problem sin today updates in jaunty... gimp does not launch... i am using Kubuntu... The process start since i can see it with ps... but does the window does not show... [06:14] daskreech? any idea? could it be an error in my setup? [06:14] [GuS]: run it from the command line? [06:14] <[GuS]> i did it too [06:14] <[GuS]> the same happens [06:14] Where aer you getting that error? [06:14] <[GuS]> there is some warnings, but the app since that starts.. just does not show a thing [06:14] <[GuS]> let me paste in a site.. [06:15] <[GuS]> daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m79339f6c [06:15] <[GuS]> i've deleted the settings too.. and nothing.. [06:16] <[GuS]> was working till recently updates... [06:16] ubuntu: that question was for you :) [06:16] daskreech:during the installation... i am actually booting from the iso right now, but i can't get past the 'scanning disk'... [06:17] ubuntu: I'm not suer that you can partition a drive while on the drive [06:17] guys, what's the gui to use to encrypt /home? [06:18] daskreech: oops.. it could be the reason.. il check the how-to again... [06:18] crypto-modules [06:32] doh can no longer update [06:33] same with fresh install [06:37] <[GuS]> i did a report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/354962 [06:37] Launchpad bug 354962 in gimp "Gimp does not start since last Jauty updates" [Undecided,New] [07:31] argh, why has my mouse suddenly become so quite very sluggish? [07:31] The mouse acceleration preferences in gnome... DO NOTHING. [07:33] Anyone else having cut off tops and bottoms of their screens in jaunty? [07:36] argh, every damned time my raw-disk VM stops... SOMETHING changes its ownership. [07:36] ... so I can't start the VM again. [07:36] "it" == rawdisk. === sukke_ is now known as sukke === Carutsu__ is now known as Carutsu [08:42] whats the best media player for ubuntu ? sad that rythmbox doesnt even have an equalizer [08:43] hi [08:43] !hi | nanomad [08:43] nanomad: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu+1! [08:43] i'm having completely random lockups on my system, anyone can help [08:43] ? [08:43]