[00:02] <wizardslovak_> i got .rar how can i open it?
[00:04] <draik_> wizardslovak_: You can use unrar-free
[00:04] <draik_> !unrar
[00:04] <BluesKaj> wizardslovak_,
[00:04] <BluesKaj> To extract the content of the file in current directory type command: ' unrar e file.rar '
[00:05] <compilerwriter> Does there exist software for Kubuntu that has the same functions as gotomeeting?
[00:06] <wizardslovak_> command not found
[00:06] <Raylz> hi, i have to execute an autostart script with root rights
[00:06] <squid0> hello
[00:06] <Raylz> where to put it?
[00:07] <BluesKaj> wizardslovak_ , sudo aptitude install rar
[00:07] <Raylz> or is it possible to manage that in system settings?
[00:07] <squid0> I'm happy to see the new plasma widgets, but I get an error when I try to add them :(
[00:07] <squid0> "Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the Mixeroid widget"
[00:07] <squid0> what's that about?
[00:08]  * dennister is away: Gone away for now.
[00:08] <wizardslovak_> same thing "command not found"
[00:12] <draik_> wizardslovak_: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[00:24] <compilerwriter> Do any of you folks twitter?
[00:24] <compilerwriter> or is it tweet?
[00:24] <compilerwriter> !tweet
[00:24] <compilerwriter> !twitter
[00:25] <jr_> how do i install KDE 4.2?
[00:30] <JontheEchidna> jr_: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[00:43] <ignacio_fcen> Hello!
[00:59] <MementoMori> hi
[01:27] <Oceanwatcher> Hi all
[01:28] <Oceanwatcher> This is my first time testing Quassel
[01:28] <Oceanwatcher> Does anyone else have problems connecting to kubuntuforums.net?
[01:29] <Oceanwatcher> And can anyone see what I am writing here...?
[01:29] <MementoMori> Oceanwatcher: icu
[01:30] <Oceanwatcher> Cool
[01:30] <Oceanwatcher> Thx
[01:30] <Oceanwatcher> So at least I am getting through
[01:32] <Oceanwatcher> When I try to connect to kubuntuforums.net I am just getting Service unavailable. It has been like this for the last two days. What is happening?
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> Oceanwatcher- same here
[01:38] <Oceanwatcher> Dragnslcr - So at least I am not alone. I am connecting from Brazil. Where do you connect from?
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> United States
[01:42] <Oceanwatcher> Dragnslcr - So it should be like this for the whole world... Strange that I have not seen any news about it yet? I am going to do a blogsearch on Google. I really need that forum. Testing 9.04 beta.
[01:43] <Raylz> is this python update 2.5 minimal safe to install?
[01:48] <Oceanwatcher> Seems Kubuntuforums.net was hosted on a MS Win server!!!! Maybe suffering from the conficker flu...
[01:48] <pking> is there anyway to have netflix intant on linux?
[02:06] <m_tadeu_> hi all
[02:06] <m_tadeu_> can anyone tell how to act when X freezes?
[02:09] <Elone> ctrl alt backspace ?~
[02:12] <m_tadeu_> Elone: with X frozen, I don't have a keyboard....so no ctrl+alt+bkspace....neither ctrl+alt+f1
[02:16] <wirechief> Elone you could also do a  skinny elephant operation  RSEIUB  check with google ;)
[02:49] <yang925> hello?
[02:49] <Dark_Ronius> Hello
[02:50] <draik_> !virtual
[02:51] <draik_> !virtualbox
[03:02] <dmbkiwi> Just upgraded to Jaunty beta, and kwin is eating about 8-9% cpu at all times.  On intrepid, when nothing was happening, my cpu usage sat at between 0-1%.  Running nvidia proprietary drivers here.  Is this normal - any way to get back to a no kwin overhead situation?
[03:03] <bazhang> !jaunty | dmbkiwi
[03:04] <dmbkiwi> bazhang: I know it's beta - was asking 1. to see if anyone had a fix; 2. if abnormal, whether I should file a bug report.
[03:05] <bazhang> dmbkiwi, the channel is #ubuntu+1 not here
[03:06] <Happyness> hello
[03:06] <dmbkiwi> bazhang: quite right - misread the channel topic
[03:07] <Happyness> I have a huge problem I Think, because I do not found any solutions on google for it. My sound does not work correct at all. Sometimes it work and sometimes not. I am using KDE 4.2. I have an ICH9 Intel HDA Audio with AD1988 driver
[03:07] <bazhang> !hdaintel | Happyness
[03:08] <Happyness> bazhang: Already tried, does not help at all
[03:09] <Happyness> My sound works sometimes in Amarok2 for isntance and sometimes not at all. It varieres depending which backend I use in Phonon ... Xine works with some apps and some not, Gstreamer are the same. Pulseaudio does not work at all etc etc.
[03:11] <Happyness> If I use Gstreamer, in amarok2 some mp3-files were not playing at all. But with xine everything works fine. But now I discovered that sound in Flash does not work at all.
[03:12] <Happyness> anyone?
[03:32] <Happyness> Phonon anyone?
[03:34] <anelizy> oiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:36] <xp-killer> im looking for a way to convert videos easy on kubuntu
[03:41] <jared_> i have an ati card using the ati drivers ... can anyone help with getting transparency effects?
[03:57] <Happyness> Does anyone has particulary good skills in audio in here?
[04:11] <draik> !boxee
[04:12] <draik> I'm trying to use boxee and it doesn't seem to work. It blinks for a sec and then I have nothing. I don't even have an error message. I cannot run it in konsole either
[04:28] <DRweasel> if your ready for wreslemania 25 tomorrow than give me a HELL YEAH
[04:29] <Xeron> hey guys when i play supertux it runs realy realy slowly
[04:29] <Xeron> can someone tell me how to fix this?
[04:29] <DRweasel> Xeron, its because you are using linux
[04:30] <DRweasel> Linux is cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches
[04:30] <Xeron> eh?
[04:30] <DRweasel> the bottom line is linux sucks and thats the bottom line
[04:30] <Xeron> lmfgdao!
[04:30] <Xeron> lol your a frustrated noob arnt cha ;)
[04:30] <Xeron> yeah i used to bitch about linux when i first started
[04:30] <DRweasel> no i am happy running windows
[04:31] <Xeron> once u get used to it its way better than windows
[04:31] <DRweasel> uhh not really
[04:31] <Xeron> can someone tell me why my framerate blows with supertux?
[04:31] <Gon> don't feed the troll
[04:31] <DRweasel> cuz your running linux
[04:32] <nullpointer> Xeron, what hardware you running?
[04:32] <yeelen> haha
[04:32] <DRweasel> hardware that linux sucks on running
[04:33] <Gon> ¬¬
[04:33] <yeelen> hello everyone
[04:33] <Gon> DRweasel: what  do you want on a linux channel?
[04:33] <DRweasel> Gon, ?
[04:34] <nullpointer> Darl, is that you?
[04:34] <Dragnslcr> Gon- just a troll. Ignore it
[04:34] <Gon> :/
[04:34] <DRweasel> if i were a troll i would live under a bridge
[04:34] <Xeron> hardware?
[04:34] <Gon> Quassel hasn't ignore feature
[04:35] <Gon> :/
[04:35] <Xeron> oh i play first person shooters fine
[04:35] <Xeron> but i cant play a little 2d sidescroller lol
[04:35] <Xeron> it runs realy realy slow
[04:35] <DRweasel> HAHA linux sucks
[04:35] <Xeron> lol
[04:35] <DRweasel> Windows server 2008 runs better than linux on my netbook and i am running the trial version of server 2008
[04:35] <nullpointer> Hmm..  Never tried it.  I will check it out.
[04:35] <Xeron> thats because windows has 3000 people working on it night and day
[04:36] <Xeron> were linux has a selct fiew dedicated workers
[04:36] <Gon> Xeron: vga?
[04:36] <DRweasel> and that is why windows is better
[04:36] <Xeron> you can do anything with linux thats why i like it
[04:36] <DRweasel> more supported
[04:36] <Xeron> windows is all closed and perminant
[04:36] <p_quarles> DRweasel: stay on topic
[04:36] <Xeron> not sure
[04:36] <Xeron> gon
[04:36] <DRweasel> p_quarles, you cant see me
[04:36] <Xeron> the framerate is horable
[04:37] <Gon> lscpi
[04:37] <DRweasel> Linux is horiable you are proably on some shitty open source driver. Closed Source  Rules thats why i use windows. More secure
[04:37] <p_quarles> !ops
[04:37] <Dragnslcr> Darn, beat me to it
[04:37] <nullpointer> Went to Synaptic, supertux says it is a development snapshot - use supertux-stable instead.  Which version you running?
[04:38] <Xeron> lscpi dont work
[04:38] <DRweasel> oh no you called the ops i am so scared
[04:38] <Xeron> the new one
[04:38] <Xeron> what do i type to get the stable one?
[04:39] <DRweasel> go to supertux.com and get supertux for windows
[04:39] <DRweasel> So much easier
[04:39] <DRweasel> oh wait you dont run windows
[04:39] <Xeron> dude seriousley you need to shut the fuck up
[04:39] <nullpointer> apt-get install supertux-stable, or just use Synaptic to install.
[04:39] <Xeron> noone here cares about windows
[04:39] <Xeron> its boreing
[04:39] <Gon> DRweasel: get a mac
[04:39] <DRweasel> http://supertux.lethargik.org/
[04:39] <Xeron> and challangeless for dumbasses
[04:39] <Xeron> like yrself
[04:39] <Xeron> if yr a dumbass use windows :)
[04:39] <Xeron> just shutup
[04:39] <DRweasel> oh i plan to get a mac for college
[04:39] <p_quarles> Xeron: don't feed the trolls, and watch your language here
[04:39] <DRweasel> yeah watch your language
[04:40] <Xeron> sry i just hate people that dont shut up about their opinions its fine if you hate linux
[04:40] <Xeron> just stop announcing it every 5 minuts
[04:40] <p_quarles> Xeron: /ignore
[04:40] <DRweasel> they are not opinions they are facts
[04:40] <Xeron> thx
[04:40] <Xeron> anyway i was wondering..
[04:40] <Xeron> whats the stable releace called?
[04:40] <nullpointer> supertux-stable
[04:40] <Xeron> i think its just cuz im using the dev game cuz all my other games work fine
[04:40] <Xeron> just this one is crappy
[04:42] <Xeron> anyone know the filename for the stable supertux?
[04:43] <Dragnslcr> supertux-stable
[04:57] <Eruaran> hello
[04:57] <Eruaran> I rebuilt my PC into a new case, everything is fine except now I have no audio at all
[04:57] <Eruaran> anyone got any ideas ?
[04:58] <dennister> checked the card & all cables?
[04:58] <Eruaran> The sound is onboard
[04:58] <nullpointer> CHecked that it was unmuted and volume turned up?
[04:58] <Eruaran> Hardware is detected exactly the same as before so it should all be fine
[04:59] <nullpointer> Sometimes it will be turned down, or the driver will be pointing to another audio device
[04:59] <Eruaran> Everything is turned all the way up
[05:01] <Eruaran> Motherboard is Asus A7V8X-LA, onboard sound is showing in System Settings as VIA 8237 with ALC658D (VIA 8237), which is the same as before when it was working fine.
[05:02] <nullpointer> Only thing that changed was the case?
[05:02] <Eruaran> yes
[05:03] <Eruaran> I don't even have front audio plugged in (speakers plugged in the back)
[05:03] <nullpointer> They plugged into the correct port?  I think it is the green one
[05:03] <Eruaran> The only things that have changed is I don't have firewire plugged in anymore (new case doesn't have it and I never used it anyway)
[05:03] <Eruaran> And I don't have the front audio plugged in (which doesn't matter)
[05:03] <Eruaran> And I don't have analogue plugged into the CD/DVD
[05:04] <nullpointer> Did you use the front audio in the old case?
[05:04] <Eruaran> rarely
[05:04] <Eruaran> Just have speakers plugged into the back
[05:04] <Eruaran> directly into the mobo
[05:04] <Eruaran> so, its actually simpler than it was before
[05:04] <Eruaran> I cant see any reason why I should suddenly have no sound
[05:05] <nullpointer> Any noise at all with speakers at full, like static?
[05:05] <Eruaran> no
[05:06] <nullpointer> You are using Kubuntu Jaunty beta, right?
[05:06] <xandar> Hello...?
[05:06] <Eruaran> yes
[05:07] <xandar> Sorry a bit new to this.
[05:07] <xandar> Would you be willing to help w/ something?
[05:07] <nullpointer> Anything muted in KMix?  Do you show any other devices in KMix besides the VIA?
[05:08] <Eruaran> nothing muted
[05:09] <Eruaran> plugged headphones in just in case it was the speakers... no sound
[05:11] <nullpointer> THe front audio from the old case, was it attached to a pin header on the motherboard?
[05:12] <Eruaran> yes
[05:12] <Eruaran> But thats just front audio
[05:13] <Eruaran> Should still get audio from the back weather that is plugged in or not
[05:13] <nullpointer> You would thing so, but in this case you are not.  Is it possible to remove the front audio piece from the old case?
[05:14] <nullpointer> Perhaps this motherboard is expecting it to be there for some reason
[05:14] <nullpointer> Or,it is expectin a jumper to be shorted if it is absent
[05:14] <Eruaran> that would make it a really wonky motherboard
[05:14] <ramon> does anybody know how do i connect to torrentleech chat server from here?
[05:15] <Eruaran> I'll try plugging front audio in
[05:15] <eric_> For some reason, compiz is launching as soon as I log in and replacing kwin. Where should I start troubleshooting this?
[05:15] <nullpointer> Did a lookup.  This is an older board, mostly used in Compaqs.
[05:16] <Eruaran> yes its from a HP
[05:16] <rggarcia> Anybody?
[05:16] <nullpointer> Yo
[05:16] <Eruaran> the OS appears to be detecting the hardware exactly the same as before though
[05:16] <Eruaran> so there shouldn't be anything wrong
[05:17] <Eruaran> I've done little more than take it apart, give it a dust off and put everything back into a new case (the old HP case sucked and had no airflow)
[05:17] <nullpointer> If the front audio peice does not work, all I can think of at the moment is something from the new case is shorting out the motherboard
[05:17] <Eruaran> but if it was shorting would the OS detect things properly ?
[05:18] <nullpointer> Yes.  If the audio port is shorting.
[05:18] <Eruaran> hmm ok
[05:18] <nullpointer> The 1/8 inch phon jack part
[05:18] <Eruaran> I'm using a different power supply is all
[05:18] <nullpointer> Should not affect it
[05:18] <Eruaran> (the old oen was dying)
[05:19] <Eruaran> I will connect the front audio bbs
[05:25] <nullpointer> Anyone had the screen go black on them on the middle of working?
[05:26] <xandar> Anyone willing to help troubleshoot a problem w/ sound?
[05:26] <nullpointer> Whats the problem?
[05:27] <xandar> Im using Amarok.  Just got the mp3 codec.  Though, I seem to have no sound, but I do hear the log off sound when i restart.
[05:28] <nullpointer> You tried installing kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:28] <xandar> Hmm... I dont think I have.  Just the one codec when you start amarok.
[05:29] <nullpointer> Try it.  That is what got it going for me.
[05:29] <nullpointer> THe shutdown sound is a wav file.  No mp3 codec needed for that
[05:29] <xandar> Awesome.  Any tips on how to learn Kubuntu? lol
[05:30] <ryan__> play
[05:30] <nullpointer> Use it.  That is all I did.  Oh, and find a user group
[05:30] <xandar> Alright.  Anything i should definately learn how to use?
[05:30] <nullpointer> Depends on what you want to do with it, really.  So many choices.
[05:31] <nullpointer> Command line is very helpful
[05:31] <nullpointer> Synaptic is good, too
[05:31] <ryan__> has any one got puppy linux to boot directly from the HD
[05:31] <xandar> No kidding. lol My other operating system is Vista, so i consider this an upgrade.  Oh!  I seem to have lost my task bar.  Got everything else.
[05:31] <nullpointer> I had it running on an old laptop about a year ago.  Very easy to install on the HD
[05:32] <nullpointer> It now runs XUbuntu
[05:32] <ryan__> i have...but I still need a live boot from a 1 g flash pen or floppy or cd
[05:32] <nullpointer> Task bar is tricky, especially if you use twinview
[05:33] <nullpointer> To reset your KDE (including task bar) open a Konsole session, and these commands in order:
[05:33] <eric_> When I'm using KDE, all of my GTK+ programs die on startup with the BadDrawable X error.
[05:33] <eric_> Any suggestions?
[05:33] <nullpointer> kquitapp plasma
[05:34] <nullpointer> rm !/.kde/share/config/plasma*
[05:34] <nullpointer> that should have been a tilda, net an !
[05:34] <nullpointer> then rerun plama by typing 'plasma'
[05:35] <xandar> Great! Its all back.  You are my hero.
[05:35] <nullpointer> Foudn that one in the KUbuntu forums.  It is a great resource
[05:35] <nullpointer> Google is your friend, too
[05:36] <ryan__> google chrome is working on a Linux as well
[05:36] <nullpointer> BTW, XUbuntu is better than puppy, in my opinion
[05:37] <ryan__> Is there a browzer of choice for the KDE ?
[05:37] <nullpointer> Konqueror is good, but Firefox is still my choice
[05:37] <ryan__> yea...Puppy is just small
[05:37] <ryan__> I have been using Opera
[05:37] <nullpointer> Agreed.  I even had DSL on that laptop.  It is nice, too.
[05:37] <ryan__> not too bad for KDE
[05:38] <nullpointer> I am used to Firefox, and make heavy use of plugins
[05:39] <ryan__> Hahaha...yea...sounds like my M$ XP
[05:39] <ryan__> I just started playing with Linux 2 days ago
[05:39] <ryan__> Quite fun
[05:39] <nullpointer> Cool.  I have been using it since 2000, but I come from a long line of other stuff.
[05:40] <ryan__> :)
[05:40] <nullpointer> Dos/Windows, Amiga, TRS-80, etc
[05:40] <nullpointer> Old school stuff
[05:40] <ryan__> I can't say I hate M$...if one knows how to configure...
[05:40] <ryan__> I have never ran with a virus scanner
[05:41] <ryan__> never needed it
[05:41] <nullpointer> I am certified in MS stuff.  I run it all in VMWare in Linux now
[05:41] <ryan__> but still there are more to this world than M$
[05:42] <ryan__> is Ubuntu beter or Kubuntu?
[05:42] <nullpointer> If you like the GNome interface.
[05:42] <nullpointer> How familiar are you with Linux?
[05:42] <ryan__> not
[05:42] <ryan__> :)
[05:43] <p_quarles> ryan__: it's all a matter of preference; only way to find out is to try both
[05:43] <ryan__> other than taking an older Dell lap
[05:43] <ryan__> 2001
[05:43] <ryan__> and tryingg things
[05:43] <ryan__> 2-3 days ago
[05:43] <nullpointer> You must be pretty computer literate, though, running Jaunty beta and chatting in IRC
[05:43] <ubuntuNOOB>  hi i come from debian, i'm try to install Kubuntu 8.10 i386 on Pentium D, I try to burn 1 CD and 3 DVD with low speed burn, when try to install Kubuntu it get my much errore, "pnpbios=off", bad I/O read and so on, do I take bad iso of Kubuntu and should I try AMD64?
[05:44] <nullpointer> GNome desktop is nice, but is not very configurable.  KDE is nice, and overly configurable
[05:44] <ryan__> yea...not great with computer language...but sort of a nautral in os systems
[05:45] <nullpointer> Not me.  I am a network engineer.  I live and breath this stuff.  Have for over 20 years.
[05:45] <nullpointer> But, I am good with people.
[05:45] <ryan__> hahaha...I wish I did...picked up computers 6 years ago
[05:46] <ryan__> was a nerd back when vic 20 was our
[05:46] <ryan__> out
[05:46] <nullpointer> Well, welcome aboard, squirt
[05:46] <ryan__> :)
[05:46] <nullpointer> I remember vic 20
[05:46] <nullpointer> I still have my Amiga.  Still works
[05:46] <ryan__> i used to hack then and Apples at school
[05:46] <nullpointer> Yep
[05:46] <ryan__> then I left the comp world...
[05:47] <ryan__> just started finding my way back
[05:47] <nullpointer> We are probably about the same age.  I never left.  I was big into computers and electronics.  Linux is the latest and greatest of it all so far
[05:48] <ryan__> But agreed...only way to learn free BSD or any OS is to find one u don''t mind breaking and reinstalling...have at her
[05:48] <ubuntuNOOB>  hi i come from debian, i'm try to install Kubuntu 8.10 i386 on Pentium D, I try to burn 1 CD and 3 DVD with low speed burn, when try to install Kubuntu it get my much errore, "pnpbios=off", bad I/O read and so on, do I take bad iso of Kubuntu and should I try AMD64?
[05:50] <nullpointer> I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit capable, but the i386 should work on it as well.  Sounds like a bad burn or a bad ISO.  Did you check the checksums?
[05:50] <ubuntuNOOB> how to?
[05:50] <nullpointer> You burning from Windows or Linux?
[05:51] <ubuntuNOOB> windows easy creator
[05:51] <ubuntuNOOB> by verbatim
[05:51] <ubuntuNOOB> and sony cd
[05:51] <ubuntuNOOB> i close the session too
[05:51] <ryan__> I know I had an error till I reburned with a image capibal burn program from M$
[05:52] <ubuntuNOOB> i don't understand sry
[05:53] <nullpointer> You will need a program that will check the checksum of an ISO image.  Here is one: http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[05:53] <ryan__> Well...when I coppied it straight on to a cd...the ISO print didn't fully transfer...
[05:54] <nullpointer> When you downloaded the ISO, there should have been an MD5 file.  THis is a text file with a number.  If the checksum matches this number, then the ISO image is good
[05:54] <ryan__> then I used a burn program that burns ISO as well...worked like a charm
[05:54] <ubuntuNOOB> oh it sound simple
[05:54] <nullpointer> You must burn it as an ISO image.  Did it try to boot?
[05:55] <ubuntuNOOB> yes i burn the iso image but didn't try MD5 file check
[05:55] <nullpointer> Check the ISO, just in case it is bad.
[05:56] <nullpointer> If it is, you will have to download again
[05:56] <ubuntuNOOB> i hope this is the case
[05:56] <nullpointer> You could try the 64 bit as well.  That is what I run
[05:56] <ubuntuNOOB> really? no any problem?
[05:57] <nullpointer> This site has step-by-step instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[05:57] <ubuntuNOOB> i would setup a vmware too
[05:57] <nullpointer> I have the latest VMWare workstation on 64bit Jaunty beta KUbuntu
[05:57] <ubuntuNOOB> i would put it for some software M$
[05:58] <ubuntuNOOB> wine don't support Metatrader 4
[05:59] <nullpointer> VMWare is not great for games
[05:59] <nullpointer> Maybe try Crossover
[05:59] <ubuntuNOOB> isnt' game :-) just a trading platform
[05:59] <nullpointer> If you are installing VMWare in Jaunty, you must read and follow this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1048798
[06:00] <ubuntuNOOB> i don't know what jaty is
[06:00] <ubuntuNOOB> Janty
[06:00] <nullpointer> Ah, sorry.  Metatrader should work fine in VMWare
[06:00] <nullpointer> It is the Ubuntu beta release code name
[06:00] <nullpointer> for 9.04
[06:01] <ubuntuNOOB> with xfce i suppose, i would try kde4
[06:01] <ryan__> I have to admit...KDE 9.04beta...All drivers were in it...my wirless worked, my LAN worked..it is fat, but it is easy...as faa as just getting started
[06:01] <nullpointer> Hey guys, it just rang midnight here.  I must turn in.
[06:02] <ryan__> night dude
[06:02] <ubuntuNOOB> thanks !
[06:03] <ubuntuNOOB> see you thanks again Guys
[06:03] <ryan__> :)
[06:05] <oruga> buenas
[06:06] <kady> Hellllo!
[06:06] <oruga> hi
[06:06] <kady> How can I tell X what video card I'm using ?
[06:08] <dmbkiwi> kady: X doesn't care what video card you have - you need to tell it what driver to use - edit the "Device" section on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <kady> dmbkiwi: ok great how do I know what to put there?
[06:10] <kady> dmbkiwi: I was trying to do a dpkg-reconfigure to xserver where it would ask me which card
[06:11] <kady> I can't seem to get that working it just keeps asking about my keyboard
[06:11] <dmbkiwi> kady: what video chipset have you got?
[06:11] <kady> SiS
[06:12] <kady>  661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[06:12] <kady> I get http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m48c8de1d from KDM
[06:15] <dmbkiwi> kady: hmm - what does the "Device" section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf have in it?
[06:16] <kady> Identifier"Configured Video Device"
[06:16] <kady> both before and after a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:17] <kady> a phigh and plow give the same results
[06:18] <kady> dmbkiwi: Time to delve into the darkages of X ?
[06:19] <dmbkiwi> kady: one of my friends has an sis card on an ancient laptop, which seems to work fine - although not tested on jaunty
[06:20] <dmbkiwi> kady: do you have the package xserver-xorg-driver-sis installed?
[06:20] <solid_liq> !ping
[06:20] <kady> dmbkiwi: This worked fine until some update killed it. I'm willing to say that if this is indeed the problem as to why KDE wont start from KDM then I'll reinstall
[06:21] <kady> dmbkiwi: I'll assume you mean xserver-xorg-video-sis and yes it's installed
[06:22] <dmbkiwi> kady: I doubt kdm has anything to do with it.  The X server isn't starting - without that kdm can't start
[06:22] <kady> dmbkiwi: Oh no it starts fine
[06:22] <kady> this is the current situation
[06:23] <dmbkiwi> kady:  huh? what starts fine?
[06:23] <kady> Start up the Computer and I get a normal login. When I try to login it throws me to the console
[06:23] <kady> X is dead but KDM is still running
[06:24] <kady> if I take this hard drive out and put it on the machine with the ATI card then when I try to login X dies and KDM restarts
[06:24] <kady> however if I run X xinit starkde etc without KDM then it works fine
[06:25] <kady> X works, KDE (mostly) works, GUI apps work
[06:25] <kady> just not if I login from KDM
[06:26] <dmbkiwi> kady: that's weird.  why don't you do a dpkg-reconfigure of kdm?
[06:26] <kady> dmbkiwi: I did it remade the same file
[06:27] <kady> I tried a -phigh and -plow to see if I could get to a part where I tell it which card I'm using
[06:27] <kady> apparently I can only specify which keyboard I'm using
[06:28] <kady> dmbkiwi: I did. It remade the same file
[06:28] <kady> ^^ done for clarity
[06:28] <dmbkiwi> kady: are you talking about doing dpkg-rconfigure of the X server?  If kdm is broken, then do a reconfig of kdm
[06:29] <kady> dmbkiwi: Ah! never thought of that
[06:29] <kady> :-(
[06:30] <dmbkiwi> kady: sounds like X is working fine to me
[06:30] <kady> Yeah
[06:30] <ryan__> I have the beta KDE...fun, great, but very choppy  in the vid and sound!...I have it on an old 2001 Dell lap...
[06:30] <ryan__> maybe my memory is too small?
[06:30] <kady> KDE isn't in Beta yet
[06:30] <ryan__> it is 9.04
[06:31] <kady> That's Ubuntu beta
[06:31] <ryan__> just got it yesterday
[06:31] <kady>  KDE in that is two releases old
[06:31] <kady> ryan__: But 9.04 does look sweet :)
[06:31] <p_quarles> kady: what? KDE in 9.04 is fully up-to-date right now
[06:32] <kady> p_quarles: but it's not in Beta
[06:32] <p_quarles> kady: KDE's not; Kubuntu 9.04 is
[06:32] <kady> p_quarles: I meant that it's in the 2nd release of the bug fix series
[06:33] <kady> so very much not in beta
[06:33] <ryan__> http://www.kubuntu.org/
[06:33] <p_quarles> kady: right, but ryan__ pretty obviously confused Kubuntu with KDE itself, as many people do; because the versioning is complicated
[06:34] <ryan__> lol...everybody called it that
[06:34] <ryan__> sorry about the mis
[06:35] <p_quarles> ryan__: yeah, Kubuntu 9.04 comes out April 23; KDE 4.2.2 came out several days ago; it's confusing, but the numbers aren't related at all
[06:35] <ryan__> more than anything...I was just wondering if it was just my small memory, or is it just the way it is right now?
[06:35] <ryan__> yea
[06:35] <p_quarles> ryan__: well, how much memory do you have?
[06:36] <ryan__> i just started linux 2 days ago
[06:36] <ryan__> 28000ish
[06:36] <dmbkiwi> ryan__: sound's working fine on my 9.04 install
[06:36] <dmbkiwi> ryan__: how much memory have you got?
[06:36] <ryan__> yea..my cd's are good
[06:36] <ryan__> but say...u tube, and other browser media based
[06:37] <ryan__> it gets choppy
[06:37] <kady> ryan__: flash is very proc intensive
[06:38] <ryan__> I tell u though...no drivers needed for this one...my wireless and all other LAN connections were there already
[06:38] <kady> like ridiculously so
[06:40] <ryan__> so whats KDE like?
[06:40] <ryan__> anything near Kubutnu?
[06:40] <p_quarles> ryan__: Kubuntu is just the name for the Ubuntu distribution that uses KDE as the graphical environment
[06:41] <ryan__> Ahh...thats where i get my confusion...I knew it looked similar
[06:42] <kady> dmbkiwi: nope nothing
[06:43] <ryan__> as well...my appoligies for my dummyness...I'm great with OS systems...Just not very knoledgable in the programming sector
[06:44] <dmbkiwi> kady: bugger.
[06:44] <ryan__> is there anyy simple way to get full Puppy Linux on to a HD with out neeing a live bootable?
[06:45] <dmbkiwi> kady: Add the following to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
[06:45] <dmbkiwi> Section "Device"
[06:45] <dmbkiwi>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[06:45] <dmbkiwi>         Driver  "sis"
[06:45] <dmbkiwi> EndSection
[06:46] <ryan__> :)
[06:48] <aga> morning
[06:49] <ryan__> Kind of
[06:49] <ryan__> almost midnight
[06:49] <ryan__> lolo
[06:49] <aga> 8am here :)
[06:50] <p_quarles> so aga's in eastern Europe or Africa, and ryan__'s in the US mountain states
[06:50] <kady> dmbkiwi: can I use xrandr or something and query what driver it is using now?
[06:52] <aga> p_quarles: don't really matter which part of europe... it's all one timezone til lituania
[06:53] <ryan__> CLose
[06:53] <kady> dmbkiwi: xvinfo says that I'm using a SiS 315 series ?
[06:54] <dmbkiwi> kady: I'm not sure, but I would suspect that there's only one module that covers all sis cards - could be wrong tho.
[06:54] <kady> dmbkiwi: yeah that's what I'm thinking too
[06:55] <kady> Its a 700 series card though
[06:55] <kady> Hmmm
[07:03] <dmbkiwi> kady: by the time you've figured it out, you could have reinstalled twice.  Even tho I hate saying that - having used linux for over 10 years, there are times where discretion is the better part of valour.
[07:03] <kady> dmbkiwi: Oh yeah I'm going to reinstall in 10 minutes I just wanted to find out what was causing this
[07:04] <dmbkiwi> kady: the only other suggestion I would have is to use a different display manager - like gdm.  See if that helps.
[07:05] <kady> hrrm lets try
[07:05] <kady> Wow that's a lot of stuff to install
[07:06] <dmbkiwi> kady: i'm sure it'll want to install all of gnome as well.  Maybe try xdm?
[07:06] <dmbkiwi> kady: ugly as hell, but very few dependencies ;-)
[07:06] <kady> :-)
[07:07] <dmbkiwi> kady: at least that'll isolate it to kdm
[07:09] <ryan__> When installing for Kubuntu...there is nothing...but there is Ubuntu...
[07:09] <kady_> dmbkiwi: works
[07:09] <ryan__> tupid question is Ubuntu stuff is same for Kubuntu?
[07:10] <ryan__> for down loads?
[07:10] <aga> ryan__: you mean like applications or...?
[07:10] <dmbkiwi> kady_: so kdm is bung.  File a bug?
[07:10] <ryan__> yea...
[07:10] <ryan__> and browsers
[07:11] <aga> ubuntu and kubuntu use different applications... which doest mean you cannot install gnome applications in a kde environment and the other way around
[07:12] <ryan__> so..play with with it...if it works great, if it don't keep playing?
[07:12] <ryan__> I like that answer
[07:12] <aga> hehe but you are using kubuntu or ubuntu now?
[07:14] <ryan__> Kubuntu beta
[07:14] <aga> i see
[07:14] <ryan__> Im a great M$ Os system operator
[07:14] <ryan__> decided it is time to move and explore
[07:14] <ryan__> started 2 days ago
[07:15] <aga> oh so probably you're having the fun of your life at the moment :p
[07:15] <ryan__> lol...almost better than rpg games
[07:15] <ryan__> and at my age I shouldn't play games
[07:15] <ryan__> :P
[07:15] <aga> hehehehe
[07:16] <ryan__> i may be an enimey here when I say...if one knows M4...there is no need to hate it...but same time...there is way more out there than that
[07:17] <ryan__> M$
[07:17] <ryan__> and I fid Kubuntu very interesting...
[07:17] <aga> hmm i don't think it's about enemies... but i am not a fanatic, i think everybody uses whatever suits him'/her better :D
[07:18] <ryan__> choppy, but I'm using an old 2001 Dell base lap...not the best for a system as larg as Kubuntu
[07:19] <ryan__> yea...just a lot of ppl I talk to in the free bsd world has a hate on for M$
[07:19] <ryan__> understandable
[07:19] <aga> mmmm not really
[07:19] <ryan__> lol.
[07:19] <aga> i don't hate anything i just use what i like :d
[07:19] <ryan__> me too
[07:19] <aga> i don't believe on any kind of extremes hehe
[07:20] <ryan__> I agre...
[07:20] <ryan__> warm...
[07:20] <ryan__> everyone is hot or cold
[07:20] <ryan__> black or white...
[07:20] <ryan__> me grey
[07:20] <voracious> Error:	Could not write to transfer socket: ECONNRESET - Connection reset by peer
[07:20] <ryan__> luk warm
[07:20] <voracious> Response:	451 Failure writing to local file.
[07:20] <ryan__> :0
[07:20] <voracious> Status:	Disconnected from server
[07:20] <ryan__> :)
[07:20] <voracious> could you help me??
[07:21] <voracious> I got this error messaage while uploading file to FTP server
[07:21] <aga> is it your own voracious/
[07:21] <voracious> yep
[07:21] <voracious> I am trying in myself to configure
[07:22] <voracious> beginning of linux world
[07:22] <aga> hmmm i am not any good with ftps but i can make a quick google...looks like some error in the setup
[07:22] <aga> sec
[07:22] <voracious> I suppose it is due to file security but not sure
[07:23] <aga> hmmm
[07:23] <aga> apparently is the router, for what i am reading
[07:24] <dennister> hey guys, never seen this problem before: new install, and vlc is playing a commercial dvd too fast...even forget what the multimedia term is for what I have to slow down...anyone know?
[07:25] <aga> i am not sure voracious sorry,...
[07:25] <voracious> okay, anyway thanks for your response
[07:25] <ryan__> I have never seen that prob on a VLC
[07:26] <dennister> i've never seen it on any of the common movie apps...
[07:26] <aga> if you google a bit you will see that it may be caused by the router, or the antivirus or firewall software
[07:26] <ryan__> can u set it back to defaults?
[07:26] <aga> anyway, voracious which client are you trying to use???
[07:26] <voracious> I have filezilla in kubuntu os
[07:27] <dennister> ryan_ it is at defaults...like i said, new install, and i'm simply trying to troubleshoot some issues I haven't seen a lot of
[07:27] <ryan__> hmm...mind U I have VLC on my M$ so I can't say much on the Linux side...
[07:28] <ryan__> I'll try a down load and see
[07:28] <dennister> wait, no, not quite at defaults: i use a movie with subtitles for testing new install, so I enabled the subtitles...subtitles' performance was what confirmed for me that *everything* was played back too fast
[07:30] <dennister> mplayer won't play it at all (seek error), kaffeine gives me the encrypted disk error, so doesn't play it at all, totem gives me a mounting error right after a reboot, after which I simply try again and the playback is flawless...
[07:31] <ryan__> I know even on my M$ os system...just clicking play doesn't work...it needs some playing with thats 4 sure
[07:32] <rendero> how long will kde3 have support ?
[07:33] <dennister> well i've built dozens of systems now, many, many with hardy, and this is the first time I've ever seen this kind of wierd behaviour from movie apps, especially all of the atandard ones
[07:33] <p_quarles> rendero: in Kubuntu, it should end when support for Kubuntu 8.04 does, in October 2009
[07:35] <ryan__> I'm new to the Linux...does one have to redown load an absoltue new OS when support is done?
[07:35] <aga> no ryan__ you can update the distro
[07:35] <aga> *upgrade
[07:35] <ryan__> kool
[07:35] <p_quarles> ryan__: no; in Ubuntu, you can upgrade to the next version; other Linux distros are "rolling" meaning that it just updates continuously over time
[07:36] <jonny^d> does anyone have a quick fix for my touchpad or link to simple instructions?
[07:36] <ryan__> maybe...
[07:36] <p_quarles> jonny^d: what's wrong with it?
[07:36] <ryan__> what are u looking 4?
[07:37] <dennister> hey, hardy was only released in spring of 2008, and it's supposed to be 3 years LTS!
[07:37] <dennister> that means it should still be supported till spring of 2011
[07:37] <p_quarles> dennister: KDE/Kubuntu was explicitly excluded from the LTS promise
[07:37] <dennister> shoot!
[07:38] <jonny^d> I like to turn off "tapping and scrolling" features, couldn't find any system settings for this so I installed gsynaptics but I have to run after each reboot
[07:38] <ryan__> many times u just need to use the right country for your set up!...
[07:38] <ryan__> in my case Canada is like France for set up...so Touch pads and keyboards needed to ne set as us not Canada
[07:39] <p_quarles> jonny^d: does it write a config file to somewhere in your home directory? that you can find?
[07:39] <dennister> i have never been able to successfully upgrade from one version to the next yet...always borks my many systems and I've wasted my time...always end up doing a clean install
[07:40] <jonny^d> I haven't looked but I would think not since the settings don't persist on reboot
[07:40] <ryan__> which os r u running?
[07:40] <dennister> and quite frankly, I've been a huge fan of ubuntu for a long time, but I heard one criticism recently I have to agree with: Canonical should stop with their continuous 6-month upgrade cycles and start focusing more on fixing the many bugs that exist
[07:41] <jonny^d> ryan__: me? kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2
[07:41] <dennister> don't go forward until the floor is solid
[07:41] <p_quarles> jonny^d: well, that doesn't mean that; if you can find a config file generated by gsynaptics that will likely make things easier
[07:42] <dennister> at this rate I may start introducing my Linux newbies via a different distro :(
[07:42] <jonny^d> thanks p_quarles I'll look now and get back
[07:42] <Eruaran> Got my sound working
[07:43] <ryan__> great
[07:43] <dennister> brb...going for a cancer stick I'm so frustrated, lol
[07:43] <Eruaran> Turns out its just that my motherboard sucks a bit :P
[07:43] <Eruaran> If you don't plug in the front audio you don't get audio at all from the rear
[07:44] <Eruaran> Thank you very much Asus you asshats
[07:47] <ryan__> Does Puppy Linux have access top this chat community?
[07:52] <shock_day13> anyone here using kde 4.2.2?
[07:53] <ryan__> I'm usind Kubuntu that uses KDE
[07:54] <ryan__> Doubt I can help, but what is the Problem?
[07:54] <shock_day13> well i tried to upgrade my kde 4.1 to 4.2.2 today
[07:54] <shock_day13> by adding the mentioned repository on the site
[07:55] <shock_day13> and when everything ws installed and i logged back in all i got was text interface
[07:55] <shock_day13> no gui
[07:55] <Eruaran> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 so I already got KDE 4.2.2 in normal updates :D
[07:55] <gayatri_> bvcv
[07:55] <ryan__> Ahh...Yeah...some people were talkig about it earlier that it should work...
[07:55] <ryan__> but thay have been having problems
[07:56] <shock_day13> a guy named <aga> tolde me that it worked for him
[07:56] <ryan__> yeah...I was chatting with him...
[07:56] <shock_day13> is it necessary to provide password for mysql server
[07:56] <shock_day13> i mean.........it was not mandatory
[07:56] <ryan__> I have never been in the situation of aOS total upgrade yet
[07:56] <shock_day13> so i skipped it
[07:57] <shock_day13> hmmm
[07:57] <shock_day13> i had to install kubuntu 8.10 again
[07:57] <shock_day13> and lost all my kubuntu data
[07:57] <ryan__> yeah...the Kubuntu is pretty much a KDE with Ubuntu OS...
[07:58] <ryan__> I have the Beta 9.04
[07:58] <shock_day13> how is it?
[07:58] <peabody> How do I enable xdmcp?
[07:58] <ryan__> great...all drivers so far have been there for me
[07:58] <shock_day13> it was mentioned on the site that it is only for developers and programmers cos it has lots of bugs and all
[07:59] <peabody> I can't find a suitable answer in the ubuntu forums
[07:59] <peabody> it's all for gdm
[07:59] <ryan__> little choppy, but I have an old Dell Lap...not the best for Kubuntu as it is a little larger that mose
[07:59] <ryan__> most
[07:59]  * devilsadvocate is usuing kubunut on dell as well
[07:59] <shock_day13> k
[08:00] <ryan__> what year?
[08:00] <ryan__> of dell?
[08:00] <shock_day13> well anyways the official release has only 18 days to go
[08:00] <devilsadvocate> very recent
[08:00] <devilsadvocate> i also use it on a 2001 sony vaio
[08:00] <devilsadvocate> shock_day13, i heard the release got postponed .. unless it was an april fools joke
[08:00] <ryan__> yeah...some friendssay grat...some say so so...
[08:01] <shock_day13> oh man
[08:01] <shock_day13> i hope it was an april fools joke
[08:01] <ryan__> But one thing I found sort of weird is the second time I installed it it was less choppy
[08:01] <shock_day13> but the release date hasnt been changed on the site
[08:01] <devilsadvocate> yeah
[08:02] <devilsadvocate> probably a joke
[08:02] <ryan__> Hahaha
[08:02] <ryan__> no jokes by M$
[08:02] <ryan__> just junk
[08:02] <ryan__> lool
[08:02] <shock_day13> lol
[08:02] <peabody> In kde3 there is an option to enable xdmcp but this option dissappears in kde4.... did kde4 end support for xdmcp?
[08:03] <ryan__> lAlthough M$ has now true compitition...
[08:03] <ryan__> maybe some hope for them after all
[08:03] <shock_day13> M$ is almost extinct now
[08:03] <ryan__> Some called Mac compitition
[08:03] <p-f> Checkboxes appear as clipped until I check/uncheck them in many applications (firefox, gedit, etc.). How do I go about fixing this?
[08:03] <shock_day13> we have been promoting linux distros all over the city through our peers
[08:04] <ryan__> but to be that...Mac would have to run a OS under PC as well
[08:04] <shock_day13> and majority of them have converted to linux
[08:04] <ryan__> now Dell and HP have decided to run a version of Linux as a choice of OS systems
[08:05] <shock_day13> finally the monopoly is being crushed
[08:05] <ryan__> hahaha...
[08:05] <ryan__> I will only say this...
[08:06] <ryan__> never discount the sleeping Giant
[08:06] <shock_day13> hmmm
[08:06] <ryan__> M$ has the resorces to be a great OS system if pushed
[08:06] <shock_day13> but it does not have as much support as linux
[08:07] <ryan__> just depends on if they will sleep like GM did in the Auto world, or wake up and Jion the fight
[08:07] <shock_day13> i hope that they die
[08:07] <p-f> shock_day13: why?
[08:07] <shock_day13> instead of sleeping
[08:07] <ryan__> lol...I wish...but that probably won't happen
[08:07] <p-f> shock_day13: you're hoping for thousands of people to lose their job, that's nice
[08:08] <ryan__> lol
 chill it was just a joke
[08:09] <ryan__> M$ is very usably if done correctly...remember most people have problems waking up inthe morning let alone use an OS system right
[08:09] <p-f> ryan__: at least hibernation works properly on their latest OS
[08:09]  * p-f shrugs
[08:09] <p-f> </snarky mode>
[08:09] <ryan__> so that said...it they have problem waking up in the morn
[08:10] <ryan__> then how will they know how to use M$ right
 remember MAKING UNIX USER FRIENDLY IS EASIER THAN DEBUGGING YOU KNOW WHO
[08:11] <ryan__> I use M$ very much like a Mac...only in limited mode...never needed nor had a virus, nor virus scanner
[08:12] <shock_day13> i use it only for games
[08:12] <ryan__> yeah...
[08:12] <ryan__> I still use both
[08:12] <shock_day13> damn their software support
[08:12] <ryan__> luv them both for ttheir own reasons
[08:13] <ryan__> lol
[08:13] <p-f> I use it when I need hibernation to work, a properly working msn client, a decent spreadsheet program, etc.
[08:13] <shock_day13> hmmm
[08:13] <shock_day13> mac is elite
[08:13] <ryan__> open office works great
[08:13] <ryan__> Mac is just another M$
[08:13] <ryan__> screwing the ppl
[08:14] <p-f> mac is a model line, microsoft is a company
[08:14] <ryan__> exactly
[08:14] <ryan__> thats why Mac isn't compitition to M$
 he is talking about the os
[08:14] <ryan__> only compitition to PC's
[08:14] <p-f> shock_day13: then he should use the name of the OS
[08:14]  * p-f shrugs and goes back to work
[08:15] <ryan__> Hahaha
[08:17] <ryan__> :P
[08:19] <rgarcia> does anybody knows if i can change my theme like mac os?
[08:19] <ryan__> for what OS?
[08:20] <rgarcia> just to appear at mac os.
[08:20] <rgarcia> apple
[08:20] <p_quarles> ryan__: usually people come to this channel for help with the OS of the same name
[08:20] <rgarcia> the icons
[08:20] <rgarcia> yes but i'm using kubuntu
[08:20] <ryan__> HMM...
[08:21] <rgarcia> i just want to know if it's possible to change the theme
[08:21] <ryan__> I know there are a few ways to change themes
[08:21] <p_quarles> rgarcia: it's possible to change the theme, but I'm not aware of an OS X theme for KDE4 so far
[08:21] <ryan__> using the KDE sign at th bottom right
[08:21] <rgarcia> i read about emerald
[08:22] <rgarcia> understood p_quarles
[08:22] <ryan__> it has many Optoins...I had to play around in there for a while
[08:23] <p_quarles> rgarcia: with the deKorator theme engine, it's not too tough to do something like that, though
[08:23] <ryan__> nope
[08:23] <rgarcia> hum...it's ok..
[08:23] <rgarcia> nevermind
[08:24] <rgarcia> i'll keep it as it comes
[08:24] <rgarcia> thanx a lot
[08:24] <ryan__> :)
[08:24] <dennister> ok, i finally got all the movie apps working...hardy always did end up generating different mismatching of dual optical drives e.g. dvd-rom is master, but no dvd or dvd0 device, only dvd1, and then dvd is matched to scd1 instead of scd0...<argh>
[08:25] <ryan__> LOL
[08:25] <dennister> and vlc is playing at right speed since reboot...didn't have to tweak it at all
[08:25] <ryan__> less strressed now?
[08:26] <ryan__> :)
[08:26] <rgarcia> ryan_: do you know if kubuntu's repository has wma to mp3 converter?
[08:26] <dennister> yes, but...am still concerned for my newbies...
[08:26] <ryan__> No...
[08:27] <dennister> i mean I know how to fix this crap, but they're not likely to in the event of an upgrade or something like that
[08:27] <ryan__> but it does have a few different player burner designs
[08:27] <ryan__> So I assume it will...
[08:28] <p_quarles> dennister, ryan__:  this is really a support channel, and a lot of off-topic chatter actually prevents that
[08:28] <ryan__> Unix is trying in a way to build that bridge to make it all duo user friendly
[08:29] <dennister> ryan__: u talking to me or rgarcia when u're talking 'few different player burner designs'?
[08:29] <ryan__> u
[08:29] <dennister> ok, thanks
[08:30] <ryan__> I'm just getting into it so I am unable to give spacifics...
[08:30] <ryan__> but i have seen different configurations
[08:31] <dennister> i'm just getting more frustrated with each system i build :( and the reminder that kubuntu with kde 3-5 isn't going to be supported after next fall is NOT a welcome reminder
[08:31] <p_quarles> !ot
[08:31] <ryan__> Sorry p_quarles...new to this
[08:34] <dennister> anyway, this system is done; time to put it away and start finishing another box
[08:34] <ryan__> lol
[08:35] <ryan__> KUBUNTU IS A GREAT STARTER
[08:35] <ryan__> 9.04
[08:35] <dennister> that's why i've been using it as a starter for about a year now...given away about a dozen systems to linux newbs with kubuntu
[08:36] <ryan__> haha
[08:36] <dennister> but I've tried to stick with hardy because it still has kde 3.5.x,,,for a newb, they're going to feel more reassured with the k button=start button
[08:37] <dennister> intrepid only has kde 4
[08:38] <ryan__> Yea...Kubuntu uses the KDE with a Ubuntu OS system
[08:38] <ryan__> it is really good
[08:38] <ryan__> My suggestion is to start with a new Beta Kubuntu
[08:39] <nephilus> can some one help me with kbfx? i can't find it in the add widgets section
[08:39] <nephilus> is it lancelot?
[08:41] <dmbkiwi> nephilus: nope - don't think it works in kde 4.x.
[09:13] <xp-killer> hello i need help here
[09:13] <xp-killer> anyone here?
[09:13] <ryan__> lol...with what?
[09:13] <xp-killer> i know it's 4 in the mornign
[09:14] <xp-killer> oh ,with converting video
[09:14] <ryan__> lol
[09:14] <xp-killer> i want to convert flv videos
[09:14] <ryan__> 2 here
[09:14] <ryan__> what OS?
[09:14] <xp-killer> oh ok
[09:14] <xp-killer> kubuntu
[09:15] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: handbrake
[09:15] <xp-killer> meaning?
[09:15] <ryan__> Hmm...
[09:16] <ryan__> sorry man ...new to me too
[09:16] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: it's a video converter
[09:16] <ryan__> what application?
[09:16] <ryan__> ok
[09:16] <ryan__> yeah...sorry
[09:17] <xp-killer> i try mencoder but the video comes out 0kb
[09:17] <Mamarok> dmbkiwi: but not in the repos, wh< not suggestiong an existing app?
[09:17] <marie_blubb> hey guys, I've got a problem with my cronjob. I'd like to run the programme rsnapshot and I entered in the cron these lines. SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11 */50 * * * * /usr/bin/rsnapshotp  ther must be something wrong as the cron is not running
[09:18] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: i dont see handbrake in the rep
[09:18] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: go to http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=handbrake
[09:19] <xp-killer> distro ID not find
[09:20] <dmbkiwi> http://handbrake.fr/?article=download
[09:53] <frinux> hi
[09:53] <frinux> I just updated my Kubuntu, and saw lot's of changes in KDE. I rebooted my computer and now KDE doesn't load, I'm just in tty1
[09:56] <squid0> hello. When I try to add the new Plasma widgets, such as the Mixeroid, this error message appears in the widget's frame/box: "This object could not be created for the followin reason: Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the Mixeriod widget." Why is that? How do I fix this?
[09:57] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: i install handbrake i can find  how to run it
[09:59] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: press alt+f2, then type in ghb
[10:00] <xp-killer> it said could not run
[10:00] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: oh wait sorry i download it but didnt instal it
[10:01] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: how to install it?cause i didnt see it nowhere on my pc
[10:01] <aga> i have just had an issue with the kapian database (something like that)
[10:01] <aga> it is not searching for programs, nor adept and nor apt... any ideas on how to fix it?
[10:01] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: where did you download it to?
[10:02] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: i have no idea i just click download and it didnt ask me where to save it like my rest files
[10:03] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: i choose the 1st download that open like a text
[10:04] <xp-killer> im just download the second one that save on my desktop
[10:05] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: but the deb file that save on my desktop is for amd pc not mines
[10:05] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: download this:
[10:05] <dmbkiwi> http://handbrake.fr/rotation.php?file=HandBrake-0.9.3-Ubuntu_GUI_i386.deb
[10:07] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: I mean this:
[10:07] <dmbkiwi> http://rsync.labby.co.uk/getdeb/ubuntu/intrepid/ha/handbrake-gtk_0.9.3-0~getdeb1_i386.deb
[10:08] <k0pp> i've got an issue:  i'm trying to get my second monitor to work.. my main card is an onboard card using the intel driver, the second is a Matrox Millennium PCI.  when i boot my machine, my box freezes up right when KDM is about to start up, it completely freezes. this doesnt happen with any other distro, only kubuntu and ubuntu, any ideas?
[10:09] <xp-killer> it tells me like eror "dependency is not satifiable:libgtk2.0-0
[10:09] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi:
[10:10] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: open a terminal and type "sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-0"
[10:11] <squid0> hey. how do I install python script engine?
[10:11] <dmbkiwi> squid0: it is more than likely already installed.  open a terminal and type "python" if you get a prompt that looks like >>> then it's installed
[10:11] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: ok i did then try to reinstall it still give me same eror
[10:12] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: what happened when you typed the above?
[10:12] <xp-killer> everything done
[10:12] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: success
[10:12] <squid0> dmbkiwi: oh, python script engine == python ? hmm. well, I'm having issues with some of the new plasmoids, that complain that they couldn't create a python ScriptEngine
[10:13] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: there you go.
[10:14] <dmbkiwi> squid0: you probably need the kdebindings package.  type "sudo aptitude install kdebindings-kde4" in a terminal
[10:15] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: ??but nothing hapen it just i tink install the libgtk2.0-0.but i still can install the converter u give me
[10:15] <squid0> dmbkiwi: ok, I'm trying that now
[10:15] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: it give me the same error
[10:17] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: what are you doing to install the package?
[10:21] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: i clic on the link u giv me and then a window open under it has a option to install
[10:21] <xp-killer> but i cant clic on it cause of the error
[10:22] <squid0> dmbkiwi: ok, I tried that, restarted X, but still got the problem where it says it can't create a python ScriptEngine
[10:23] <dmbkiwi> squid0: make sure you've got the python-plasma package installed
[10:23] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: open a terminal
[10:24] <xp-killer> k
[10:24] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: then type "wget http://rsync.labby.co.uk/getdeb/ubuntu/intrepid/ha/handbrake-gtk_0.9.3-0~getdeb1_i386.deb"
[10:25] <peabody> In kde3 there is an option to enable xdmcp but this option dissappears in kde4.... did kde4 end support for xdmcp?
[10:26] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: ok i did it save a file.but i dont no where
[10:26] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: once wget has downloaded the package, type "sudo dpkg -i handbrake-gtk_0.9.3-0~getdeb1_i386.deb"
[10:28] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: at the end it give me
[10:28] <xp-killer> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:28] <xp-killer>  handbrake-gtk
[10:28] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: above that it should say that a package is not installed - what is the package?
[10:29] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: a lot of stuff
[10:29] <Mamarok> arghs, gtk programs for KDE?
[10:30] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: you need to install those missing packages using "sudo aptitude install <packagename>
[10:31] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: http://pastebin.com/m64107637
[10:33] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[10:33] <squid0> that helped, dmbkiwi. thanks
[10:33] <dmbkiwi> squid0: np
[10:33] <peabody> How do I configure a server to allow xdmcp remote logins?
[10:36] <xps> hola
[10:36] <xps> que hay de nuevo viejo??
[10:36] <Mamarok> !es | xps
[10:36] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: how to install more than 1 thing?
[10:36] <zorael> If I have a bug likely related to packaging in the kubuntu-experimentals ppa, I shouldn't post a launchpad bug report, right?
[10:36] <xps> ok
[10:37] <xps> gracias por el dato
[10:37] <xps> bye
[10:37] <Mamarok> de nada
[10:37] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: what version of kubuntu
[10:37] <xp-killer> 8.10
[10:37] <xp-killer> i tink
[10:37] <xp-killer> lol
[10:38] <peabody> this is the only page of documentation in the entire set of documentation of KDE and it is the single worst written page in history of technical mannuals
[10:38] <peabody> http://docs.kde.org/cgi-bin/desktopdig/search.cgi?show=stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/kdmrc-xaccess.html&collection=en&include=stable&q=xdmcp
[10:38] <peabody> how in the bloody hell do I connect from my laptop to my desktop using xdmcp
[10:39] <peabody> when I am at the login screen and I hit ALT+R to open remote login window, I type in the hostname of my desktop and click ADD and everything under hostname - status remains blank
[10:40] <peabody> What's the bloody point of a status if it won't even allow you to add servers in the status of "offline" though the documentation says this bloody service is enabled by default
[10:41] <peabody> one bloody checkbox is all it takes to enable this feature on windows terminal server
[10:41] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: you might need to do an upgrade.  type "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[10:41] <gecko_> hola
[10:41] <gecko_> quiero hacer una consulta
[10:43] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: done
[10:43] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: did it install anything new?
[10:45] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: no but it said something about handbrak dependency the stuff it needs...
[10:48] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: hmmm.  Add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list:
[10:48] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/handbrake-ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[10:49] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: noway im not messing wit the source lst.forget it im gona convert my videos on xp
[10:49] <xp-killer> dmbkiwi: tanks for your time
[10:49] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: huh?
[10:49] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: just add a new repo - it's not a biggy
[10:50] <k0pp> is it just me, or is kde-look.org down?
[10:50] <xp-killer> yea last time i did that i mess eveything up
[10:50] <dmbkiwi> k0pp: is for me
[10:50] <k0pp> down?
[10:50] <dmbkiwi> k0pp: yep
[10:50] <k0pp> thanks.
[10:51] <k0pp> thought comcast was being a dick again.
[10:51] <dmbkiwi> xp-killer: up to you.
[10:55] <zorael> Is Quassel calling syncing the logfile to disk inbetween each log entry? It's very IO intensive.
[10:55] <zorael> -calling*
[10:56] <zorael> Note timestamps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144783
[10:57] <zorael> 10 seconds just to show the MOTD, admittedly exaggerated with a file being copied in the background
[11:08] <aga> hi :D is there any way of rescuing the system from a kernel panic?
[11:08] <aga> i can reinstall everything i was just coming from formatting... but maybe there is a simple way to do it
[11:09] <aga> simple or not so simple... as long as it's not very complicated
[11:10] <dwidmann> aga: well, what's the cause of your kernel panic? if you need to get into the system to rescue, you can do it from a live CD, after which you can chroot in to your install and run commands like "apt-get" normally
[11:11] <aga> hmm dwidmann i am not really sure what happened, i was updating everything after formatting when all froze
[11:11] <aga> then after half an hour frozen i just turned out the pc, and when i came back it said kernel panic, unable to mount root... i am now on the live cd d
[11:12] <aga> but i do not know how to proceed from now on
[11:12] <dwidmann> aga: well, first mount the root partiton of your install
[11:12] <aga> ok hold on
[11:12] <dwidmann> aga: then run "sudo chroot /mountpoint" where mountpoint is the mountpoint
[11:13] <aga> everything takes a while to open when im on the live cd
[11:13] <dwidmann> aga: then, perhaps, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:13] <aga> i can give that a shot just a sec
[11:13] <dwidmann> aga: such is the bane of live CDs .... but at least they're always there, and we can't screw 'em up (well, save for scratching them to death)
[11:14] <aga> heheh true
[11:15] <aga> ohmie
[11:17] <zorael> Recommend live USBs, much less painful
[11:17] <aga> great konsole won't start... i think i need to log in and out
[11:17] <dwidmann> zorael: how much extra effort goes into making them live though?
[11:17] <zorael> dwidmann: simple as downloading the .iso, running unetbootin, then rebooting. .3
[11:17] <zorael> :3*
[11:18] <zorael> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:18] <zorael> dwidmann: as for *persistently* live, then yeah, effort involved
[11:18] <dwidmann> I generally use DVDs ... somewhat faster than CDs but still slow
[11:20] <zorael> Anyone else running jaunty with the kubuntu-experimentals ppa enabled?
[11:21] <dwidmann> (not me)
[11:28] <aga> ook dwidmann i am having an issue to mount root
[11:28] <dwidmann> aga: oh?
[11:28] <aga> when i enter sudo mount /dev/sda6 (where my root partition is) it days it cannot find it on fstab or mtab
[11:29] <dwidmann> aga: you need to specify the mount point for it too
[11:29] <dwidmann> aga: and if necessary, make the mount point first too
[11:29] <aga> ahaa so i would need to edit the fstab on the live cd?
[11:29] <dwidmann> aga: ie: sudo mkdir /media/sda6; sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/sda6
[11:30] <aga> ok ill give a try to that hold on
[11:30] <aga> ok now is mounted
[11:31] <aga> now i guess the chroot is to user ubuntu
[11:31] <dwidmann> aga: need what I punched in above or are you good to go?
[11:31] <aga> i need a bit more of help.. never chrooted anything
[11:31] <dwidmann> aga: then run "sudo chroot /mountpoint" where mountpoint is the mountpoint
[11:31] <aga> oki
[11:32] <dwidmann> aga: then, perhaps, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:32] <aga> ok sec
[11:32] <dwidmann> (hurray for the 'up' key!!)
[11:33] <aga> i think it's fixing it... it says dpkg was interrupted... so dpkg --configure -a
[11:33] <aga> heheh i know the key, but i had to restrt the whole thing so i lost the log :D
[11:33] <dwidmann> yup
[11:33] <dwidmann> aga: I figured as much, that's why I offered
[11:33] <aga> it says /proc filesystems /proc modules... no such file or directory
[11:34] <aga> but it is updating a while bunch of things
[11:34] <dwidmann> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:34] <dwidmann> forgot that that might happen
[11:34] <dwidmann> type in 'exit'
[11:34] <aga> it is still updating
[11:34] <dwidmann> sudo mount --bind /proc /media/sda6/proc
[11:35] <dwidmann> probably this too:
[11:35] <dwidmann> sudo mount --bind /sys /media/sda6/sys
[11:35] <aga> ok so i will let it finish
[11:35] <dwidmann> aga: make it stop, it could be trouble
[11:35] <aga> how?
[11:36] <aga> exit didnt quite worked
[11:36] <wirechief> do ctrl c
[11:36] <dwidmann> aga: it doens't have access to things that it needs ...
[11:36] <aga> jeeez i got nervous and closed the console :S
[11:36] <aga> it's starting to be too hot here :s
[11:37] <dwidmann> aga: that's okay, but pick up with
[11:37] <dwidmann> sudo mount --bind /proc /media/sda6/proc
[11:37] <dwidmann> sudo mount --bind /sys /media/sda6/sys
[11:37] <dwidmann> aga: then chroot in again
[11:37] <aga> ok there i go
[11:37] <dwidmann> aga: then "dpkg --configure -a" again, and hopefully it will succeed where it failed before
[11:38] <aetern> hi, after i installed kubuntu 9.04 beta, my knetwork manager stopped working and i can't connect to my wifi spot...
[11:38] <aetern> what i should do?
[11:38] <aetern> except killing my self :)
[11:39] <aga> ok there it goes... crossing fingers
[11:39] <dwidmann> aetern: probably visit #ubuntu+1, file a bug, and cross your fingers that things are fixed before 9.04 is actually 9.04
[11:40] <aetern> OKEY, i will try that :)
[11:40] <aga> cannot determine grub device, assuming it's /dev/sda1
[11:40] <aga> that sounds bad
[11:40] <dwidmann> aga: is /boot on a separate partition?
[11:40] <aga> hmmm not that i know
[11:40] <aga> i have never had a /boot partition
[11:41] <dwidmann> aga: hmmm
[11:41] <aga> and /dev/sda1 is just a data partition
[11:41] <aga> (if i lose the data there i can kill myself, so it's delicate)
[11:41] <dwidmann> aga: well, after this is all done with, you might have to reinstall grub
[11:41] <dwidmann> aga: umm, lets hope it doesn't come to that then
[11:41] <aga> could you help me too? neverdone it
[11:42] <aga> *i've never done it
[11:42] <dwidmann> aga: s'pose so
[11:42] <aga> ok now it's finished
[11:43] <dwidmann> grub-install /dev/sda
[11:43] <dwidmann> then, type "grub" to get into the grub shell
[11:43] <aga> hmm /dev/sda not found or not a block device
[11:44] <dwidmann> aga: try sda6 then
[11:44] <aga> ok
[11:44] <aga> same
[11:44] <dwidmann> okay, is "sda" the first drive according to your bios, aga?
[11:45] <aga> yeap should be... there's only one drive
[11:45] <aga> and it's always been /dev/sda
[11:45] <aga> from there are going all the partitions
[11:45] <dwidmann> try (hd0,5) then
[11:45] <dwidmann> including the parentheses
[11:46] <aga> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `hd0,5'
[11:46] <dwidmann> hmm, try putting backslashes in front of each of the parentheses
[11:46] <aga> ok
[11:47] <aga> same, /dev/sda6 not found or not a block device
[11:47] <dwidmann> aga: okay, lets give up on grub-install and do it the other way altogether then, and hope it works
[11:48] <aga> ok...please the safest for my sda1 :D
[11:48] <dwidmann> aga: type in 'grub' to get into the grub shell
[11:48] <aga> ok
[11:48] <aga> k inside
[11:48] <dwidmann> aga: setup (hd0,5)
[11:49] <aga> error 12, invalid device requested
[11:49] <dwidmann> hmm, weird
[11:49] <dwidmann> maybe hd0,5 isn't equalling sda6 .... as it should -_-
[11:49] <aga> hmm i think it is, when you asked me to put the backslashes
[11:50] <dwidmann> ah, this is true
[11:50] <aga> with hd0,5 i got the answer about sda
[11:50] <dwidmann> Maybe it isn't liking something syntax-wise
[11:51] <dwidmann> (it tends to be very picky)
[11:51] <aga> i see
[11:51] <aga> i can just reinstall the whole thing... i am just thinking that it may be easier
[11:52] <dwidmann> aga: root (hd0,5) <---try me, try me!!
[11:52] <aga> ok sec
[11:52] <aga> now it's error 21 selected disk does not exist
[11:53] <aga> its (hd0.5) no spaces right?
[11:53] <dwidmann> right
[11:53] <aga> ok so error 21 :D
[11:53] <wirechief> geometry (hd0)
[11:54] <aga> that's what i need to write?
[11:54]  * wirechief might give some information on whats going on
[11:55] <aga> trying to get back to my system from a kernel panic... while making apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade it said unable to determine root device, taking /dev/sda1 (or something like that) which is NOT the root device just a data partition... trying to fix it, since we cannot reinstall grub
[11:55] <dwidmann> wait, aga, are you still in the chroot or no?
[11:55] <aga> i think that's the short
[11:55] <aga> hmmmm
[11:55] <aga> yes i was
[11:55] <dwidmann> aga: and you ran grub while chrooted, or no?
[11:56] <aga> yes
[11:56] <dwidmann> hmm, well, try that geometry command and hope that it gives some clues, I guess
[11:56] <aga> selected disk does not exist
[11:57] <dwidmann> I can think of one reason for that happening other than when the disk really doesn't exist.
[11:57] <aga> hmmm i dunno
[11:57] <dwidmann> Come to think of it, this should have hit me sooner
[11:57]  * wirechief yep, its borked
[11:57] <aga> so reinstall??
[11:57] <dwidmann> I forget, we need to exit the chroot
[11:57] <aga> ahaaaaa
[11:58] <aga> how to exist this grub thing?
[11:58] <dwidmann> then we need to "sudo mount --bind /dev /media/sda6/dev
[11:58] <dwidmann> then chroot in again
[11:58] <dwidmann> I feel silly
[11:58] <aga> i don't feel you silly dwidmann... right now you're my personal hero... if that helps
[11:59] <dwidmann> I have a good excuse though really, I've been up a long time and will have to go to bed shortly ... hehehe
[11:59] <dwidmann> Not before this reaches some sort of resolution though
[11:59] <aga> thank you thank you :D
[11:59] <aga> now just closing the terminal window/
[11:59]  * wirechief pass's cup of coffe to dwidmann and aga
[11:59] <dwidmann> Probably faster to just type exit :)
[12:00] <aga> unrecognized command
[12:00] <aga> (already tried) :p
[12:00] <dwidmann> aga: in grub that would be unrecognized, to exit the grub shell you need to type quit, then to exit the chrooted bash, you type exit :)
[12:01] <dwidmann> (guess I shoulda mentioned that)
[12:01] <dwidmann> (oh well, it's in the past)
[12:01] <aga> aaa well i just closed and reopened hihi
[12:01] <aga> now chroot again
[12:01] <dwidmann> yes, after doing the mount --bind /dev/ /media/sda6/dev
[12:01] <aga> ok... now i have that last thing mounted and i have chrooted...
[12:01] <aga> jup
[12:02] <dwidmann> aga: try: grub-install /dev/sda6
[12:02] <pugelarouge> hi - my kde seems to be using gtk for window decoration - i figure it goes back to one of teh old compiz configs - where do i change it back??
[12:02] <aga> ok installation finished no errors reported dwidmann
[12:03] <dwidmann> aga: , now to make darned sure, lets go in the grub shell and give a couple things a whirl
[12:03] <aga> oki doki
[12:03] <dwidmann> aga: first: setup (hd0)
[12:03] <dwidmann> aga: second: setup (hd0,5)
[12:03] <aga> invalid device requested
[12:04] <dwidmann> For both :O
[12:04] <aga> jup
[12:04] <dwidmann> aga: wow, that's *awfully* mean of grub :(
[12:04] <aga> dwidmann: grub is awful ;p
[12:05] <aga> what about setup no arguments?
[12:05] <dwidmann> aga: hopefully grub 2.0 will be better, if it ever matures and gets relelased
[12:05] <dwidmann> aga: that'll probably throw a different error
[12:05] <dwidmann> aga: how about: geometry (hd0)
[12:05] <aga> sec
[12:05] <aga> oh i have it  now
[12:06] <aga> can i paste in pm?
[12:06] <aga> dont want to open anything else in case it freezes
[12:06] <dwidmann> sure
[12:07] <dwidmann> hmm, ext2, ext3, not really much difference, just the journaling mostly
[12:08] <aga> all my partitions are ext3 that i am sure
[12:08] <zorael> Anyone running jaunty with the kubuntu-experimentals ppa enabled?
[12:09] <dwidmann> (not me, sounds like a recipe for trouble)
[12:09] <zorael> meh :>
[12:09] <zorael> works fine, but think I found a bug with the app launcher and wanted someone to confirm
[12:09] <aga> maybe the shortest is to try and install again everything
[12:10] <aga> because it seems it's slightly freaked out
[12:10] <dwidmann> aga: reboot and see if it boots first
[12:10] <aga> ok
[12:10] <aga> be right back
[12:10] <dwidmann> aga: actually, before that, lets see if its fixed
[12:10] <dwidmann> aga: do you still have that grub shell opened?
[12:10] <aga> i just closed it but i can open it again
[12:10] <dwidmann> aga: kay, lets do that, open that, then chroot in
[12:11] <aga> ok, done
[12:11] <aga> now grub shell?
[12:11] <dwidmann> aga: yep
[12:11] <aga> ok done as well
[12:11] <dwidmann> now, type "configfile /grub/menu.lst"
[12:11] <dwidmann> or maybe "configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[12:11] <aga> without quotes i assume?
[12:11] <dwidmann> one of those
[12:12] <dwidmann> right
[12:12] <aga> invalid device requested
[12:12] <dwidmann> oh, wait, forgot, we need to set the root first :\
[12:12] <dwidmann> maybe "root (hd0,5)" will work, I hope
[12:13] <aga> no error thrown
[12:13] <aga> it did it without complaints
[12:13] <dwidmann> aga: cool, now try the two lines above
[12:14] <aga> ok now i have 'something'
[12:14] <aga> like a list of places
[12:14] <dwidmann> the "configfile" commands should bring up the grub menu you see on startup, if it's working properly
[12:14] <aga> yeap
[12:14] <aga> that's the one
[12:14] <dwidmann> give it a whirl :)
[12:14] <aga> just enter?
[12:15] <dwidmann> yup
[12:15] <aga> invalid device requested
[12:15] <aga> on the 4 options :(
[12:16] <dwidmann> hmmm
[12:16] <dwidmann> pick one of them and press 'e'
[12:16] <aga> ok done
[12:16] <dwidmann> what doe it have?
[12:17] <aga> kernel /boot/vmlinuxsomenumbersgeneric root=uuid=lots of lettrs and numbers
[12:17] <aga> initrd /boot/initrd.img.numbers-generic
[12:17] <rgl> hi
[12:17] <aga> but i think that's /dev/sda1
[12:18] <dwidmann> aga: hmm, try quitting the grub shell and type "update-grub"
[12:18] <aga> oki
[12:18] <rgl> I really like the desktop of kde, but I would prefer for it to not show all the widget in the desktop, but instead, show them like os x (ie. after I press some key combination). is that possible?
[12:18] <dwidmann> aga: hopefully that will re-write that file and things will want to work
[12:19] <aga> ok i did now grub and arrow up hold on a sec
[12:19] <Greenery> rgl: maybe you could set another activity, one activity with no widget the other with widgets
[12:20] <Happyness> Hello, I have a problem with my sound. I wondering is there any chance in the world to reset EVERY SINGLE SETTING which I have configured for my sound. I think there is some conflict inside Phonon because I have isntalled and changes a lot of sound settings in gstreamer, pulseaudio, alsa, oss, xine etc.
[12:20] <aga> now invalid device requested
[12:20] <aga> with both commands
[12:20] <dwidmann> aga: which commands?
[12:21] <aga> the ones starting by configfile
[12:21] <Happyness> And I do not want to reinstall a clean copy of Kubuntu 9.04 again.
[12:21] <tangtang> i have a wireless card, D-link DWA 120 and i want to crack wifi, but i use driver ndiswrapper and it don't support to crack . What driver should i do ?
[12:21] <aga> any of them is working now
[12:21] <dwidmann> aga: did you run "root (hd0,5) first?
[12:21] <aga> no, i just noticed and i was just running it
[12:21] <aga> sorry
[12:22] <aga> nah
[12:22] <aga> invalid device requested all along dwidmann
[12:22] <dwidmann> aga: don't be sorry, at least you picked up on it by yourself, give yourself some credit :)
[12:22] <dwidmann> :(
[12:22] <aga> hey no sad faces. we tried
[12:23] <dwidmann> so ..... root (hd0,5) .... = invalid device requested?
[12:23] <aga> it didnt want to work... so i will just reinstall :) sometimes is like that
[12:23] <aga> yep dwidmann
[12:23] <tangtang> Help me please
[12:23] <aga> the problemis that i do not see any of my partitions in the query i put you
[12:23] <dwidmann> grub is such a miserable pain. aga, do you have anything you want backed up? (like, maybe the installed packages list or whatnot)
[12:23] <tangtang> i read some book but i usefull for PCI not usb
[12:24] <aga> hmmm i have all my stuff in that /dev/sda1 partition imentioned before
[12:24] <aga> my system only contains files and applications... no data whatsoever
[12:24] <aga> if it's in / it's not important... only /dev/sda1 can't be lost... tons of pictures and so on
[12:24] <rgl> Greenery, thx.  I look at that (don't know yet what is an activity ;)
[12:24] <dwidmann> aga: but have you installed any packages since install, that you would like to have installed without effort later, is what I was asking ...
[12:25] <aga> hmmm not really dwidmann i had to reinstall everything this morning... i had one of my brightest ideas ever... trying to install gentoo without any guide hehehehe
[12:25] <Greenery> rgl: if you click on the top right hand corner, you can zoom out and then add activity there
[12:25] <dwidmann> aga:, if so, this is what would do it  -- dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' f 3 | tr '\n' ' ' > backup_list
[12:25] <dwidmann> everything this morning? Ouch
[12:26] <aga> yeah i just had a shot of inspiration
[12:26] <aga> and then wheni was updating kubuntu, all froze and i got that kernel panic ;d
[12:26] <aga> one of those perfect days ;))
[12:27] <aga> so today i will spend my day fine tuning the lappy again... which teaches me a very valuable lesson
[12:27] <dwidmann> aga: before you do the reinstall, back up your logs and take a look at them, maybe you can find out why it froze and report a bug or two ... hehehe
[12:27] <aga> where are they?
[12:27] <dwidmann> aga: /var/log
[12:27] <aga> mount blabla?/
[12:28] <dwidmann> aga: definitely want dmesg ... maybe syslog, might as well throw in kern.log too
[12:28] <dwidmann> aga: well, wait, I guess for now they would be in /media/sda6/var/log ...
[12:28] <aga> moment
[12:29] <aga> jeeez i just opened dolphin
[12:29] <aga> my root is there, mounted
[12:29] <aga> same for my /dev/sda
[12:31] <aga> and this is just great dwidmann
[12:31] <aga> i copied the logs into the /dev/sda1 partition without issues
[12:31] <aga> the whole log folder -.-
[12:32] <dwidmann> aga: and that's a problem?
[12:32] <aga> no its great
[12:32] <aga> just surprising
[12:33] <aga> and nice to see that all is there still ;d
[12:33] <aga> ok going for that reinstallation... thanks for your effort dwidmann :)
[12:33] <aga> very much appreciated
[12:34] <aga> bbl
[12:34] <dwidmann> aga: good luck, and good night :)
[12:35] <DennisBagley> anyone : can anyone tell me where i can set kde's window manager back to kwin?
[12:35] <Happyness> I have a question, why does KpackageKit block some updates and some not?
[12:36] <dwidmann> DennisBagley: does "kwin --replace" do anything? for the short time, if that works, you could jut put that in a script and have it run on login
[12:38] <DennisBagley> dwidmann : thats done the job - will add it to startup for now
[12:39] <alba_> dwidmann:
[12:39] <alba_> stll here?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:40] <aga> maybe you won't believe it... but it booted just fine
[12:40] <aga> :D thanks a bunch!!!
[12:40] <DennisBagley> thanks - any idea where kde will be picking the wm setting from - i thnk it is user specific
[12:42] <wirechief> aga  it worked ?
[12:42] <aga> jup
[12:42] <wirechief> amazing
[12:42] <aga> don't ask me why or how or when... i just booted just in case and booted into the system just fine
[12:43] <wirechief> so you have two copies of the install now?
[12:43] <aga> hmmm i dont think so
[12:43] <aga> all looks normal, like always
[12:43] <aga> i need to reboot
[12:43] <aga> be right back
[12:44] <aga> oh not yet
[12:47] <weudes> ola turma bom dia
[12:48] <weudes> estou querendo colocar no ubuntu o kde 4.1 fica bom?
[12:48] <alba_> !pt
[12:48] <weudes> estou testando o kubuntu aqui e estou gostando
[12:50] <ante_> so, I'm running the Jaunty beta and I'm experiencing the system freezing a couple of times a day, and the only thing I can do is to reboot it
[12:50] <ante_> is this a common problem?
[12:50] <ante_> and most importantly, is there a solution?
[12:51] <aga> ante_:  for jaunty issues try #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <aga> they are more on the top of bugs and so on
[12:51] <dwidmann> aga: that's great news!
[12:51] <ante_> aga: ok, thanks
[12:51] <dwidmann> aga: you're welcome
[12:52] <aga> oh yeah dwidmann thought you were gone to sleep already,.. but wanted to tell you anyway thanks a bunch again :)
[12:52] <dwidmann> aga: and away to bed for me, I've put it off for too long already
[12:52] <dwidmann> (too long = 52 minutes)
[12:52] <aga> yeah i think im gonna dress up and go to the swimmng pool
[12:52] <aga> i dunno what to do but...
[12:52] <mnd999> Hi, anyone else seeing wine corrupting the kde4 font cache?
[12:52] <wirechief> so was that a reinstall from the net ? that you performed aga ?
[12:52] <aga> i think i will rather stay today
[12:52] <aga> hmmm no wirechief i did not reinstall finally
[12:53] <aga> i just booted and all worked fine
[12:53] <aga> you know just try before formatting once agai
[12:53] <aga> *again
[12:53] <wirechief> ok so you just reinstalled grub
[12:53] <aga> well kind of
[12:53] <dwidmann> wirechief: rather than resintalling, chrooting in & fixing, then making very sure that grub was in good working order before letting things go
[12:54] <aga> dwidmann:  said it better hehe
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ante_ , your question can be answered in #ubuntu+1, it's the jaunty room
[12:54] <ante_> BluesKaj: yeah, I'm aware of that now thank you :)
[12:54] <aga> dwidmann:  if after sleeping you feel like looking for the logs let me know
[12:54] <aga> i dunno what should i look for there
[12:55] <dwidmann> aga: will look for "trouble" :) What trouble will look like is hard to say, if it's present .... but oftentimes things like that can be blaringly obvious so it's worth trying to look.
[12:56] <aga> ok which were the files again? dmesg and?/
[12:56] <dwidmann> syslog
[12:56] <dwidmann> aga: I'd look at syslog first
[12:57] <aga> oki doki i will take a look at it
[12:57] <dwidmann> and if you want timestamps of when to look, maybe messages, because that will give you a decent idea of when the system went down and came back up
[12:59] <aga> it looks like they are all empty :S
[12:59] <aga> ill check it later
[12:59] <aga> slowly
[12:59] <dwidmann> aga: might be worth looking at the *.0.log versions, or older maybe
[13:00] <aga> aha i see
[13:00] <dwidmann> aga: (after they get ever so big, it archives the old stuff)
[13:01] <aga> makes sense :D i need to check them slowly... after my lunch i think today i deserve it :p
[13:01] <dwidmann> kay, good luck, talk to you later
[13:02] <mnd999> hi, anyone else see wine messing up the font cache on kde4?
[13:02] <aga> yeah sleep well.. and thanks again, really
[13:06] <mnd999> just me then? or is this the wrong forum this tpe of question?
[13:11] <habish> Has anyone been able to access the Kubuntu forums?
[13:13] <konrad1207> hello all
[13:13] <plastikman> hello
[13:14] <konrad1207> I have a problem with ext4 file system
[13:14] <konrad1207> does anybody know, which packages I need
[13:14] <plastikman> sorry, not use it
[13:14] <konrad1207> hmmm
[13:15] <konrad1207> so many people, maybe somebody will know
[13:15] <mnd999> is ext4 recommended? from what i read there are still data  loss issues
[13:15] <mnd999> linus was also not very compliamentry about the design
[13:15] <konrad1207> from phoronix I read
[13:15] <konrad1207> it speeds up whole system
[13:16] <konrad1207> a lot
[13:16] <mnd999> but if you lose data thats irrelevant
[13:16] <konrad1207> data loss
[13:16] <konrad1207> was about
[13:16] <konrad1207> time window
[13:16] <konrad1207> before it actually writes data to disk
[13:16] <mnd999> yeah something like that
[13:17] <konrad1207> in ext3 it was 5 sekonds
[13:17] <konrad1207> in ext4 it may be up to 1 minute
[13:17] <Happyness> WHY does KPackage block some updates like gwenview+
[13:17] <mnd999> 1 min is a hell of a lot of data on modern systems
[13:17] <Raylz> when i change from folderview to desktop, my plasmoids get moved and cant be moved to the original place, when i then change from desktop to folderview, the icons are too big; do you experience the same behavior in jaunty like me?
[13:21] <plastikman> make upgrade system using aptitude
[13:21] <plastikman> or dist-upgrade
[13:22] <plastikman> i had similar problem
[13:35] <offender> can someone of you be my urinating friend
[13:35] <offender> can someone of you be my urinating friend
[13:35] <joopajoo> no, we can't
[13:44] <jussi01> !away > fontknocker|zzz
[13:47] <joopajoo> quiet channel...
[13:48] <jussi01> joopajoo: sunday...
[13:48] <alxju> :)
[13:49] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[13:50] <wizkoder> I would like to have an area an my kicker with small icons for some applications I use most often. had that in kde 3.5. Already possible with 4.2?
[13:50] <jussi01> wizkoder: yep, its a plasmoid, just add it as normal
[13:51] <jussi01> wizkoder: its called "quicklaunch"
[13:54] <wizkoder> okay thanx. added quicklaunch. now its on the complete right side of my kicker. I do not understand how to move it yet...
[13:54] <wizkoder> found it :-)
[13:55] <wizkoder> works totally different now
[14:03] <wizkoder> what about desktop search? read nepomuk will be in jaunty. but not in the standard install?
[14:06] <joopajoo> nepomuk is already in intrepid. it just doesn't have a proper user interface.
[14:11] <alxju> i want to use a printer on my kubuntu but it doesnt work (no linux driver available) (dell j740). other ways are possible to do it works?
[14:20] <aga> how to change the computer name? i know it is possible without formatting, but i don't remember the command
[14:22] <jussi01> !hostname | aga
[14:22] <jussi01> hrm, not really...
[14:22] <aga> hmmm no not one
[14:22] <aga> not that one :p
[14:23] <jussi01> :D
[14:23] <aga> i know i have read about it here i just cannot remember the command...
[14:23] <aga> jeez where are my brains
[14:27] <skarn> where should I go if I need help with a package that does not build in my PPA?
[14:28] <elvis1> Hola puedes ayudarme tengo problemas con ubunto cuando duro mucho rato fuera que vuervo a entrar se me inabilita la pantalla y no hace nada\
[14:29] <jussi01> !es
[14:36] <hhlp> anyone knows if ktorrent use Bittorrent protocol or what protocols use ?
[14:39] <aga> hmmm should use bittorrent protocol... unless there's more than one protocol to download torrents
[14:39] <aga> then i dunno
[14:41] <Dragnslcr> Yes, it uses the BitTorrent protocol
[14:41] <aga> is there any other for downloading torrents?
[14:42] <hhlp> thx Dragnslcr :)
[14:45] <Eruaran> Has anyone here recorded their desktop with kwin effects on ?
[14:54] <cedrick79> bonjour
[14:59] <joshjtl> anyone know of a simple sound recorder app?
[15:00] <cuznt> audacity
[15:00] <cuznt> !audacity
[15:01] <LjL> !info audacity
[15:01] <joshjtl> yeah audacity i guess i was hoping for a qt/kde app
[15:01] <cuznt> krecord
[15:01] <cuznt> thats mono
[15:02] <joshjtl> cuznt: that sounds fine except its not in the repos
[15:04] <cuznt> !
[15:04] <cuznt> !krec
[15:04]  * cuznt stares @ the bot
[15:04] <LjL> !info krec
[15:04] <Jampiter> I'm having an issue playing DVDs. I have libdvdcss installed and I have run "ln -sf /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd". In Xine, I can get to the language select menu (first menu) of this DVD then it says it cannot be read. I've had a message in the terminal that says this: "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". How can I remedy this?
[15:04] <cuznt> !info krecord
[15:04] <LjL> oh
[15:04] <joshjtl> yeah sucks
[15:05] <LjL> krec is probably kde 3.5 only
[15:05] <joshjtl> i know lame
[15:05] <LjL> !find krec
[15:05] <cuznt> it went way back
[15:05] <LjL> cuznt: i'm running Hardy, so i have it
[15:05] <cuznt> !psag
[15:05] <aga> anyone knows of a decent program to download and manage podcasts? amarok does not let me advance if needed...
[15:06] <cuznt> !info podcasts
[15:06] <aga> the best one i know is rythmbox but i was wondering if there is any kde one
[15:06] <cuznt> gnome has one
[15:06] <cuznt> but i forget
[15:06] <aga> yeah that's the one i know
[15:06] <aga> rythmbox i think
[15:06] <cuznt> someone stole my ipod in october,,,
[15:06] <aga> i think i will keep on using it
[15:07] <aga> i haven't managed to make my ipod sync yet
[15:07] <aga> but there's a radio program i like to listen... only problem is that it's too late for me:d
[15:08] <cuznt> gtkpod ?
[15:09] <joshjtl> i guess im stuck installing audacity
[15:09] <aga> hmmm nope won't sync my ipod...and i never managed to use it as a player of the podcasts
[15:09] <cuznt> gPodder
[15:09] <aga> so i will stick to rythmbox
[15:09] <aga> neither c
[15:10] <aga> i think i've tried them all cuznt... unless something has changed in the last month or so...
[15:10] <cuznt> ok
[15:10] <cuznt> i only had 1 that syncd
[15:10] <cuznt> and i forget
[15:11] <aga> it's no problem i have plenty of music already... and i don't use it that much
[15:11] <aga> i will go with it at some point but at the moment... it's okay
[15:11] <Jampiter> I'm having an issue playing DVDs. I have libdvdcss installed and I have run "ln -sf /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd". In Xine, I can get to the language select menu (first menu) of this DVD then it says it cannot be read. I've had a message in the terminal that says this: "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". How can I remedy this?
[15:12] <joshjtl> hrmm cant get audacity to record from my laptop mic
[15:13] <aga> ohmnie
[15:13] <aga> i just lost firefox
[15:15] <joshjtl> how do i find out where my mic is? i need to set it up with kwave
[15:16] <aga> now... this is interesting, i do not have audio at all
[15:17] <dwu2> aga: have you tried banshee for syncing your ipod? works fine for me...
[15:17] <aga> tried a few things a while ago... got too fed up and right now is in my todo list
[15:21] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! I run Intrepid and I wonder if anyone has the same difficulty in finding the Handbook/Help Files for Kaffeine and Amarok [to name a few]. Thanks in advance
[15:21] <Jampiter> I'm having an issue playing DVDs. I have libdvdcss installed and I have run "ln -sf /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd". In Xine, I can get to the language select menu (first menu) of this DVD then it says it cannot be read. I've had a message in the terminal that says this: "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". How can I remedy this?
[15:23] <demmon> !virtual
[15:23] <demmon> !kqemu
[15:24] <karsten_> HALLO HALLO HALLO HALLO
[15:25] <devilsadvocate> demmon, virtualbox is great for small applications and such
[15:28] <Jampiter> I'm having an issue playing DVDs. I have libdvdcss installed and I have run "ln -sf /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd". In Xine, I can get to the language select menu (first menu) of this DVD then it says it cannot be read. I've had a message in the terminal that says this: "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable". How can I remedy this?
[15:30] <demmon> devilsadvocate:  yah i know i am searching for one client
[15:31] <doleyb> Jampiter: do other players work? (not xine)
[15:32] <Jampiter> doleyb: Thank you! No, Totem and Dragon do not work either..
[15:33] <cuznt> maybe it is the dvd itself jampiter
[15:33] <Jampiter> cuznt: None of my DVDs will work :(
[15:33] <cuznt> osnap
[15:34] <cuznt> twas a thought
[15:34] <Jampiter> It's ok
[15:34] <doleyb> Jampiter: But you can see the menu from the dvd??  did you try mplayer?
[15:35] <Jampiter> doleyb: Only one before it crashed.. I'll try Mplayer
[15:35] <doleyb> Jampiter: (You installed these via medibuntu right!?)
[15:36] <Jampiter> Uh.. no
[15:36] <Jampiter> doleyb: No, I didn't. Just plain Ubuntu with Kubuntu packages#
[15:37] <devilsadvocate> Jampiter, encrypted dvd support not available .. probably need some non-free stuff to run it. google might help. also, there may be a drm issu?e
[15:37] <doleyb> Jampiter: So where did get libdvdcss?
[15:37] <marco__> hey
[15:37] <marco__> anybody is having both vista and kubuny on his pc??????
[15:38] <doleyb> marco__: I have it, but i never use vista..!
[15:38] <marco__> ok
[15:38] <Guest94183> i hve windows xp on vmwarer server i want to share files betwenn xp the guest os and kubutu 8.10 the hosr os how i do this i need documintationor how to
[15:38] <marco__> I am going to install intrepid on my friend's pc
[15:38] <Jampiter> doleyb: I think Ubuntu shipped with it, although I may have got it from the repositories a while back
[15:38] <marco__> I want to be sure there will be no problem
[15:39] <etric> marco__ i have vista and kubuntu on my thinkpad too
[15:39] <marco__> ok
[15:39] <marco__> so no problem at all??
[15:39] <etric> there is no problem at all
[15:39] <Jampiter> Nope
[15:39] <Jampiter> No problem
[15:39] <marco__> no mbr errors, gurb errors or stuff?
[15:39] <doleyb> Jampiter: I doubt that, why don't you try medibuntu
[15:39] <etric> nope can select vista from the grub menu just fine
[15:39] <Jampiter> Ah
[15:39] <marco__> ok
[15:39] <Jampiter> doleyb: How large is medibuntu?
[15:40] <marco__> great guys
[15:40] <marco__> love ya all
[15:40] <marco__> I appreciate it
[15:40] <doleyb> Jampiter: as large as it needs to be.
[15:40] <doleyb> !medibuntu
[15:40] <psyco> anyone have a guide for setting up a OS X VM?
[15:40] <psyco> im using virtual box
[15:40] <doleyb> Jampiter: just read that and follow that, i'll do everything fix you.
[15:41] <Jampiter> doleyb: Thank you :)
[15:42] <Guest94183>  i hve windows xp on vmwarer server i want to share files betwenn xp the guest os and kubutu 8.10 the host os how i do this i need documintation or how to
[15:54] <vishalrao> Hello, I would like to make changes to http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/tasks/abstracttaskitem.cpp
[15:54] <vishalrao> Any links to how to go about it? What source packages to download and how to rebuild and reinstall oafter changing?
[15:54] <vishalrao> For kubuntu amd64
[15:55] <vishalrao> I have "sources" selected in KPackageKit repos list
[15:55] <vishalrao> running jaunty amd64 btw
[15:55] <joopajoo> Sysinfo for 'tietokone': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz at 2003 MHz (5666 bogomips), HD: 605/683GB, RAM: 3885/3959MB, 194 proc's, 2.21d up
[15:55] <joopajoo> why it says "Q9550  @ 2.83GHz at 2003 MHz" ???
[15:56] <joopajoo> 2003 MHz?
[15:56] <vishalrao> joopajoo: intel speedstep ?
[15:56] <joopajoo> maybe?
[15:56] <vishalrao> disable EIST in BIOS , perhaps a power setting in KDE (set to performance) should fix it...
[15:56] <joopajoo> but is this normal with this processor?
[15:56] <vishalrao> sure it is normal :)
[15:57] <vishalrao> if you run heavy task it should go back up to full speed
[15:57] <joopajoo> so it powers up automatically, and there is nothing to worry about?
[15:58] <vishalrao> yes
[15:58] <joopajoo> ok
[15:58] <vishalrao> why dont you try it now... run some CPU intensive task...
[15:58] <vishalrao> play back video, encode etc...
[15:58] <vishalrao> run some filter in GIMP
[16:00] <joopajoo> Sysinfo for 'tietokone': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz at 2003 MHz (5666 bogomips), HD: 605/683GB, RAM: 3932/3959MB, 194 proc's, 2.21d up
[16:00] <joopajoo> and now it is encoding x264
[16:01] <vishalrao> reopen the sysinfo tool/window now?
[16:01] <joopajoo> 2003.000 MHz
[16:02] <vishalrao> maybe its a KDE power management bug then...
[16:04] <maria> hello
[16:04] <doleyb> vishalrao: do you have guidance-power-manage icon?
[16:05] <maria> does anyone know how to get the screensaver to stop asking for a password?
[16:05] <joopajoo> no
[16:05] <joopajoo> there are some settings in "system settings" for CPU frequence scaling
[16:05] <vishalrao> doleyb: no, im running jaunty :)
[16:05] <maria> in the screensaver settings I disabled Require password to stop, but it still asks for the password
[16:06] <vishalrao> maria: try logout and log back in, then?
[16:06] <maria> okay
[16:06] <doleyb> vishalrao: So maybe you should go the jaunty channel, #ubuntu+1
[16:06] <vishalrao> perhaps the screensaver has a bug where it doesnt check that setting...
[16:06] <vishalrao> doleyb: right, let me try there :)
[16:07] <maria> i will see if there is anything about a bug in the forums
[16:07] <maria> thanks for your help
[16:10] <billy> Kubuntu 9.04 is getting better and better!  Wow
[16:14] <gkffcks> Is there a way to install amarok 3.5 on kubuntu jaunty?
[16:16] <dennis_> test
[16:17] <billy> good luck, I am on amarok 2.0.2 on Kubuntu 9.04
[16:20] <billy__> loving Kubuntu 9.04, it's getting better and better with updates
[16:22] <coffee|_|D> yo morning peeps :) rise and shine!!!!
[16:22] <coffee|_|D> heh
[16:22] <billy__> hey coffee !  Good morning
[16:22] <coffee|_|D> hey billy :D
[16:22] <aga> does anyone know if kdeparted is in the live dvd? need to resize my root partition and i just can think on doing it that way
[16:23] <aga> and morning coffee|_|D
[16:23] <coffee|_|D> wow it's sunday morning here and i've got mah coffee mug full woohoo
[16:23] <coffee|_|D> hey aga :D
[16:23] <aga> lol sunday is almost over here ;)
[16:23] <aga> be right back... need to restart my sunday experiments :D
[16:23] <coffee|_|D> hehe
[16:23] <billy__> I'm on my Kubuntu 9.04 Toughbook and it's soooo cool
[16:25] <doleyb> billy__: whats cool with it?
[16:25] <joshjtl> hey folks, how can i find fastest kubuntu iso download mirror? torrent is being way slow
[16:25] <billy__> I stayed out of Kubuntu 8.10 just a little too edgy, but 9.04 with KDE 4.2.2 in much improved..
[16:26] <joshjtl> billy__: have you tried 8.10 with kde 4 ?
[16:27] <billy__> I tried 8.10 w KDE 4 but I like the 9.04 code better, running on the Dell Mini 9 also
[16:28] <joshjtl> billy__: im actually going back to 8.10 from 9.04 ... not ready yet too many things not working on my dell laptop
[16:28] <coffee|_|D> oh cool!
[16:28] <coffee|_|D> i have an acer netbook i'm thinking of installing linux on
[16:28] <joshjtl> go for it
[16:28] <joshjtl> kde rocks
[16:28] <joshjtl> really really rocks
[16:29] <coffee|_|D> hehe
[16:29] <billy__> I load from http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[16:29] <etric> always worth a try :) thats what dual boot is fo r ;)
[16:29] <joshjtl> kicks all other guis way out of the water in my opinion
[16:29] <coffee|_|D> only one thing i don't have a ext. cdrom drive :( i could use the 4gig sdcard i have though
[16:29] <billy__> Kubuntu 9.04 is runnning great on my Dell Mini 9.
[16:29] <coffee|_|D> sweet
[16:29] <joshjtl> billy mic and all hardware runningcorrectly?
[16:30] <joshjtl> sorry meant billy__
[16:30] <billy__> get a high cap USB stick
[16:30] <billy__> yes my mic and camera are running great with several updates
[16:30] <coffee|_|D> i have a usb adapter, is 4 gigs enough?
[16:30] <janka> Anybody know how to put tabulator how to do this in pascal please: writeln(a,' * ', b ,' ???TAB??? = ' a*b);
[16:31] <billy__> 4 GB of USB should be enough, standard Kubuntu is only ~700mb ?
[16:31] <coffee|_|D> aah cool :)
[16:33] <billy__> got 2 roll, check with all later. have a good day!
[16:36] <aga> is there any partition tool in the live cd of kubuntu 8.10?
[16:36] <aga> need to make some changes to my root partition
[16:36] <gkffcks> qtparted, I think, but it's not that good or intuitive...
[16:36] <gkffcks> imo
[16:37] <aga> i just have qt4 settings...
[16:52] <joshjtl> as far kde 4 goes, whats the status in intrepid?
[16:54] <aga> where is grub installed in kubuntu by default? in MBR?
[16:55] <chris0111> /boot/grub/
[16:55] <chris0111> aga:
[16:56] <Laeborg> how can i mount /dev/media/data to /media/bigdrive at startup (fstab) ?
[16:56] <aga> thanks chris0111
[16:56] <chris0111> no prob aga ;)
[16:57] <aga> Laeborg:  you will need fstab yep
[16:58] <Laeborg> ye i know, I have been looking in /etc/fstab, but how do this works ?
[16:59] <aga> is the drive an external one?/
[17:00] <Laeborg> no
[17:00] <Laeborg> but its setup with lvm
[17:01] <aga> then you need to know which is it's name.. /dev/sda'what'
[17:01] <Laeborg> /dev/media/data
[17:01] <aga> for example i have a partition mounted like that, the first entry is /dev/sda1 /home/alba/stuff...
[17:01] <Laeborg> ext3 fs
[17:01] <aga> hmm /media/data is a mount point
[17:02] <Laeborg> no /dev/media/data is mounted to /media/bigdrive
[17:03] <aga> dunno, that's really not the way i fill in fstab
[17:03] <aga> but i aint no expert
[17:04] <aga> since /media is a folder in / i would say that's not the right 'device' just a mount point
[17:04] <aga> check it with fdisk -l
[17:05] <noren> hi all
[17:05] <aga> hello noren... do you have any idea of how to resize a partition from the live dvd?
[17:06] <chris0111> aga why did you want resize a partition?
[17:06] <aga> need to install something and i want to do it in /dev/sda6
[17:06] <noren> aga: try running gparted from there
[17:06] <aga> but since my root system is there, i need to do it from the live dvd
[17:06] <aga> it'snot here noren
[17:06] <aga> really odd...nothing like gparted, kparted or even evmsn
[17:07] <chris0111> you can chance the partition-table (own risk)
[17:07] <chris0111> like you install a new os and then the cs "resize" current os's
[17:07] <aga> no nono
[17:07] <aga> i dont want to manually change the partition table ;)
[17:07] <noren> try installing it sudo apt-get install gparted <<< it will get u that for this session
[17:08] <chris0111> you don't need make it "manually" use a ubuntu install cd
[17:08] <chris0111> in the point of partionation
[17:08] <chris0111> you go to manually
[17:08] <tatters> in the clock it displays timezone by capitol cities where would I change the file so it displays a city nme I choose?
[17:08] <chris0111> and change the kbytes
[17:09] <aga> then i would need to cut the installation in the middle chris0111
[17:09] <chris0111> tatters -> system settings
[17:09] <aga> and i would risk kubuntu not to work?
[17:09] <chris0111> do you have free space on your os?
[17:09] <chris0111> aga?
[17:10] <noren> try installing gparted in  while running live cd
[17:10] <aga> yeap chris0111 more than enough
[17:10] <aga> but i do not want to touch the big partition
[17:10] <aga> yeah it's installing noren ;d
[17:10] <noren> rem it will only last for this seesion if u reboot it wont be there
[17:11] <aga> well if i can do the changes to the partition... i am happy
[17:11] <aga> problemis that i need to resize my root partition so it needs ot be unmounted
[17:11] <tatters> chris0111: where is the setting I cannot find it , only thing I can find is to choose city by the capitol
[17:12] <jliendo> hola
[17:12] <jliendo> alguien vive ?
[17:13] <noren> jliendo: english only here
[17:13] <jliendo> excuse me, please i nedd help with my kubuntu
[17:14] <chris0111> tatters: wait a sec
[17:15] <tatters> chris0111: np
[17:15] <noren> jliendo: what is the prob ??
[17:15] <noren> aga: remember to back  up anything important before doing anything
[17:16] <aga> yeah noren... just my whole kubuntu system can be affected :p all the important data is in the partition i dont want to touch hihi
[17:17] <tatters> I presume I need to edit the file which holds the names of the capitol cities and change the entry for London to one of my own choosing
[17:17] <chris0111> tatters:
[17:17] <tatters> yup
[17:17] <chris0111> system settings -> general -> regional & language maybe?
[17:18] <tatters> been there chris but cant seem to find anythng usefull
[17:27] <joshjtl> anyone know where kubuntu 8.10 cd md5sums are?
[17:29] <Happyness> I have a question, why does KpackageKit block some updates and some not in jaunty develope release 9.04?
[17:30] <noren> joshjtl: http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/8.10/
[17:31] <noren> Happyness: that cud be answered better in #ubuntu+1
[17:31] <Happyness> noren: Why not here if i may ask?
[17:32] <noren> !jaunty | Happyness
[17:32] <Happyness> noren: Alright, thank you :)
[17:36] <bielefuben> Anyone know the status of kubuntuforums.net?
[17:37] <Happyness> noren: Just for your notice, nobody is willing to answer that question in ubuntu+1, whys that?
[17:38] <noren> ppl will only answer if they know the answer :)
[17:39] <Happyness> noren: Alright, which means nobody can answer my question? :P Sorry for my language and attitude for the moment, but that just sucks ashole.
[17:43] <Pollywog> I prefer KDE 3.5.10 over KDE 4.  Is it possible to upgrade to Intrepid or Jaunty and keep KDE 3?
[17:43] <Unksi> Pollywog: there is an unofficial repo with kde3 packages somewhere
[17:44] <Pollywog> Unksi: ty
[17:44] <Unksi> no idea how well it works, havent tested it
[17:44] <Unksi> yw
[17:44] <Pollywog> it just seems that if I upgrade to KDE4, I will lose features
[17:45] <noren> kde4.2 is far better than kde4.0
[17:46] <Pollywog> noren: I will give 4.2 a try then thanks
[17:49] <noren> anyone where cn i check the list of the daemons started at the boot time, i mean the file containing the list of it
[17:51] <Dragnslcr> Think they're all in /etc/init.d/
[18:01] <w-heat> there's a vile bug in KDE 4.2.2 where the search box doesn't get focus on the kicker/application starter. Makes it useless - I'd stick with 4.2.1 until it's fixed
[18:27] <aga> ok...nice issue.. i just fixed my partitions table which was all messed up
[18:27] <aga> nice and easy...
[18:27] <aga> i fixed fstab, but now i guess i should fix also something in grub
[18:27] <aga> i just don't know what or how... any suggestions?
[18:38] <lokke-le> join +kubuntu-de
[18:38] <DVD-RAM> OH
[18:45] <jonah> hey guys, just wondering how i get kde 4.2.2 for kubuntu intrepid? i added the repo on the news page but i can't see any updates??
[18:46] <p_quarles> jonah: have you checked your version since running apt-get upgrade ?
[18:48] <jonah> p_quarles: that's just it, there's nothing to upgrade... i don't think the packages are there?? has anyone else got 4.2.2 yet on intrepid??
[18:52] <cesar_> hola
[18:52] <cesar_> aqui se habla español???
[18:52] <Guest7617> a
[18:53] <cesar__> alguien habla español?
[18:53] <vitor> oi para todos
[18:53] <vitor> alguem de petropolis
[18:53] <jonah> hello anyone know how to get 4.2.2 kde on intrepid?
[18:55] <cesar__> que es petropolis?
[18:56] <p_quarles> !es | cesar__
[18:57] <jonah> i don't get it, added the repo as on kde news page but no updates are showing, has anyone else got this to work?
[18:57] <p_quarles> jonah: what repo are you referring to?
[18:58] <jonah> p_quarles: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:58] <ubuntu_> help guys i cant log in on my kubuntu log directly to xp
[18:58] <ubuntu_> how i change it
[18:59] <p_quarles> jonah: okay, that's the one that has the latest version for Intrepid; you still never answered my question about doublechecking your version
[19:03] <ubuntu_> disapeared grub any iidea how i bring it back
[19:04] <ubuntu_> goes to windows
[19:04] <jayhunold> !grub | ubuntu_
[19:05] <ubuntu_> yes i have lost after install windows
[19:11] <Cyclist2> I run Intrepid; has anyone experienced difficulty in obtaining the Handbook for Kaffeine or Amarok after installing them on Gnome?
[19:17] <joshjtl> hey folks, anyone get plasma widget stasks to run on Intrepid?
[19:18] <rggarcia> does anybody know what is wrong architecture 'i386' problem?
[19:19] <rggarcia> anybody??
[19:20] <aga> which processor do you have rggarcia?
[19:21] <rggarcia> core 2 duo 2.66
[19:21] <Pollywog> rggarcia: and also, are you installing Ubuntu on virtualbox?
[19:21] <rggarcia> i'm using kubuntu 64nits
[19:21] <Pollywog> rggarcia: that might be a problem if you are installing with virtualbox
[19:21] <aga> where do you get that error rggarcia?
[19:22] <aga> or when or doing what?
[19:22] <rggarcia> when i open a deb package...
[19:22] <rggarcia> like adept manager
[19:22] <aga> hmm you might be using the wrong one
[19:23] <linuka> hi met malem
[19:23] <aga> if you are using 64 bits you need packages for 64 bits arch and not for 32
[19:23] <linuka> mana ya yang indo
[19:23] <rggarcia> right..but if theres no 32b pack?
[19:23] <aga> hmm i guess you will need to compile... it cannot be mixed that's why you're getting that error i think
[19:24] <rggarcia> hum..i read about ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems
[19:24] <rggarcia> there is repos
[19:24] <rggarcia> in
[19:24] <aga> i really dunno rggarcia my understanding is that 32 and 64 bits cannot be mixed... (do you have those libraries installed?)
[19:25] <aga> i have always used 32 bits so i may very well be wrong
[19:25] <aga> but the error sounds like that
[19:25] <rggarcia> yes i do...but do i have to restart  x server?
[19:25] <aga> hmmm you get the error while trying to install right?
[19:26] <rggarcia> i had the error..after i read about and install the pack...but didn't restart the server
[19:26] <rggarcia> do i have to?
[19:27] <aga> hmm i am not really sure what you were trying to do, depending on what you have installed you may need to reboot the computer, restart x or do nothing
[19:27] <rggarcia> right..let me reboot it...
[19:27] <aga> and also, depending on what you have installed it may also be a problem to reboot
[19:27] <rggarcia> brb
[19:27] <aga> wait!!!!
[19:27] <rggarcia> ok
[19:27] <aga> what did you install if i can ask?
[19:27] <rggarcia> problem to reboot?
[19:27] <rggarcia> yes ofc
[19:28] <aga> sometimes rebooting the system may make matters worse
[19:28] <rggarcia> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-sun-java6-bin
[19:28] <rggarcia> only this two
[19:29] <aga> well it doesnt look like it will be a big issue... but have your livecd near you in case
[19:29] <aga> i dunno really
[19:29] <shock_day13> aga
[19:29] <aga> shock_day13:
[19:29] <shock_day13> guess what
[19:29] <aga> as i said my understanding is that they should not be mixed
[19:29] <rggarcia> yes i have the live cd..
[19:29] <aga> but my understanding may be wrong
[19:29] <rggarcia> right..
[19:29] <aga> what's up shock_day13?
[19:30] <rggarcia> let me show you something
[19:30] <aga> i mean i am not an authority i have screwed my system 4 times today already
[19:30] <aga> :p
[19:30] <shock_day13> i tried to upgrade today throught hat repository but after everything was downloaded and installed when i restarted my pc i just got text no gui
[19:30] <aga> these inspired days... oh joy
[19:30] <shock_day13> the adventures
[19:30] <aga> but you're using gnome or kde shock_day13?
[19:30] <rggarcia> ahhhaah
[19:30] <shock_day13> kde 4.1
[19:30] <aga> you know what to do on a sunny spring day.. mess with partition tables and grub
[19:31] <aga> perfect sunday ;)
[19:31] <rggarcia> This is the mean reason for this forum, and also why you need to be very specific in what piece of software you are trying to install... I can't look into my crystal ball and give you more help.
[19:31] <rggarcia> Here are some pointers:
[19:31] <rggarcia> 1: Go to synaptic package manager > type the name in search for the software that you want to install > if it's there install the software. To make this work optimally, enable all repositories. If this is still a black box for you, read, read, read all information about how to install software under linux.
[19:31] <rggarcia> 2: If 64 bits software packages are not available see the first two stickied posts on this forum.
[19:31] <rggarcia> 3: Install the 32 bit libraries for software : IA32 libs plus dependencies (again more forum and other reading).
[19:31] <rggarcia> 4: If there is no way out: download the source code of the software, install the build essential package, compile the software yourself. (that requires more linux knowledge).
[19:31] <rggarcia> I am sorry but there is no other way.
[19:31] <rggarcia> aga: take a look on this
[19:31] <shock_day13> hey aga how many times have you installed linux distros till now
[19:32] <aga> it depends shock_day13... in winter the number of installations raises ;)
[19:32] <shock_day13> lol
[19:32] <shock_day13> my count till today is
[19:32] <shock_day13> ubuntu 8.04 = 23 times
[19:32] <shock_day13> fedora 9 = 17 times
[19:32] <shock_day13> kubuntu 8.04 = 3
[19:33] <aga> ohmie
[19:33] <shock_day13> opensuse 11.0 = 6
[19:33] <shock_day13> ubuntu 8.10 = 9
[19:33] <shock_day13> kubuntu 8.10 = 14
[19:33] <aga> i think rggarcia that rebooting wont harm but i would remove both packages purging all very well
[19:33] <shock_day13> fedora 10 = 1
[19:33] <aga> and find some other workaround
[19:33] <shock_day13> sabayon = 4
[19:33] <aga> ok ok shock_day13... you win ;)
[19:34] <aga> compiling the software or something...
[19:34] <rggarcia> aga, did you read?
[19:34] <shock_day13> thank you thank you
[19:34] <aga> yeah rggarcia
[19:34] <rggarcia> what did you understand...nothing to do?
[19:34] <aga> compiling to do :p
[19:34] <aga> 2: If 64 bits software packages are not available see the first two stickied posts on this forum. <--- unless there, there is someother solution
[19:35] <rggarcia> yes but i didn't find it lol
[19:35] <rggarcia> let me see it again
[19:36] <rggarcia> which linux are you using?
[19:36] <aga> and shock_day13 sometimes is nice to try to fix the problems before formatting hihihihi
[19:36] <rggarcia> aga?
[19:37] <aga> you mean distro or architecture?
[19:37] <shock_day13> well formatting is a solution
[19:37] <shock_day13> my hdd is going to kill me one day
[19:37] <aga> hmm shock_day13 you can't imagine the fun of fixing it ;)
[19:38] <shock_day13> only if i would've know how to
[19:38] <aga> well... you get the live cd, come here and ask :D
[19:38] <aga> happened to me earlier this morning... kernel panic
[19:38] <aga> we fixed it ;)
[19:39] <aga> then i tried to put in order my partitions table and grub error 17 then i got fed up and installed debian :D
[19:39] <shock_day13> are you a programmer or a developer?
[19:39] <aga> me?
[19:39] <rggarcia> sorry...my bad..yyou use kubuntu right?
[19:39] <aga> i am just a pain who asks ;)
[19:39] <shock_day13> lol
[19:39] <aga> right now i am on the kubuntu live cd to install it back but i also have debian installed at the moment
[19:39] <shock_day13> which one is better?
[19:40] <aga> and i am about to try gentoo, probably in this week i just need the time
[19:40] <aga> hmm shock_day13 that depends on what you like but they are quite similar IMO
[19:40] <shock_day13> yeah kubuntu is based on debian right?
[19:40] <aga> yeah sort of
[19:40] <aga> it has many different things but yeah many similarities
[19:41] <shock_day13> aga whts your real name?
[19:41] <rggarcia> hum...but as i told, i'm nwe on linux...which linux do you think is the best, and easy to use?
[19:41] <aga> aga ;p
[19:41] <shock_day13> nice name
[19:42] <aga> rggarcia:  my first distro was ubuntu... ubuntu / kubuntu are just fine... a lot of stuff to learn, but affordable, and with a great community support
[19:42] <shock_day13> hey garcia if you are new to linux then go for ubuntu 8.10
[19:42] <aga> and 32 bits rggarcia
[19:42] <aga> will make matters easier ;p
[19:42] <shock_day13> yeah the i386 structure
[19:43] <shock_day13> hey aga after adding that repository for kde 4.2 and downloading the updates what happened with you?
[19:43] <aga> hmm nothing??log in, log out and all normal
[19:43] <shock_day13> did you get kde 4.2 properly or did you face any problems?
[19:44] <shock_day13> lucky guy
[19:44] <aga> see... as long as i don't get inspired and start doing "new stuff" normally i have no problems ;p
[19:44] <shock_day13> when i logged back in it showed me th text login
[19:44] <aga> today my computer froze updating something and i got a kernel  panic but i had been digging on it prior to that
[19:44] <aga> so i dont blame it
[19:45] <shock_day13> i guess i'll wait for jaunty
[19:45] <aga> hmm
[19:45] <aga> all the installation went well shock_day13?
[19:45] <shock_day13> nope
[19:45] <aga> when such thing happens just enter the live cd, connect here and ask
[19:46] <aga> i mean, did you get any errors while installing?
[19:46] <shock_day13> it asked me for mysql password
[19:46] <shock_day13> but i just kept pressing enter
[19:47] <aga> ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:47] <aga> that's the problem
[19:47] <Unksi> shock_day13: that should not make any problems, it just puts an empty password
[19:47] <aga> you cut the installation
[19:47] <Unksi> as long as you press ok instead of cancelling it in any way
[19:47] <aga> if you just enter whichever password it will configure everything... that's probably why you got the text loging
[19:47] <shock_day13> well not exactly
[19:47] <aga> and yeah
[19:47] <aga> not cancel it in any way as Unksi said
[19:47] <rggarcia> so aga i  installed the kubuntu 8.04 64b...but if i download the other one, am i going to  install everything again, or is there any way to keep it?
[19:47] <shock_day13> ohk
[19:48] <shock_day13> i'll try it again
[19:48] <aga> mmm rggarcia you dont need to download a cd again
[19:48] <aga> just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should do
[19:48] <aga> then you'll have the newer one
[19:48] <aga> but 64 bits that is
[19:49] <rggarcia> sorry, but let me see if i got...i just need to sudo apt-get??? and than, how do i change it to 32b?
[19:49] <aga> nono
[19:49] <aga> that you cannot do
[19:50] <Unksi> rggarcia: if you want to change to 32bit, you have to reinstall from a 32bit disc
[19:50] <aga> you can get a newer version with dist-upgrade
[19:50] <aga> but to change to 32 bits you need to reinstall
[19:50] <aga> and yes, you will have to reinstall all the apps
[19:50] <Unksi> rggarcia: are you trying to update to 8.10?
[19:50] <aga> Unksi:  he's new to linux and he's using a 64 bits arch
[19:51] <rggarcia> a friend of mine told me to install the 64b arch
[19:51] <Unksi> yea i noticed that, am having a bit hard time on trying to understand what he is saying :)
[19:51] <aga> he's having issues to find some packages and asked me which distro was easier, i said ubuntu and kubuntu are ok, but 32 bits would make it easier
[19:51] <aga> it comes from a lot of lines up Unksi ;)
[19:51] <Unksi> rggarcia: that is fine unless you have some 3rd party software in 32bits only
[19:51] <Unksi> aga: ok
[19:51] <shock_day13> but then how to upgrade without loosing the apps and all in 32 bits?
[19:52] <aga> you cannot change the arch in an upgrade shock_day13
[19:52] <rggarcia> is there any way to do that?
[19:52] <Unksi> shock_day13: you want to upgrade to 8.10?
[19:52] <rggarcia> there's no way to do this
[19:52] <shock_day13> so if jaunty launches and i have to upgrade i'll be loosing all the data?
[19:52] <rggarcia> aga: does the newer version is ok for me to use?
[19:52] <aga> no, because you will use apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:52] <Unksi> shock_day13: only if you want it to be 32bit
[19:53] <aga> rggarcia:  if by newer you mean intrepid yes
[19:53] <aga> do NOT take jaunty yet
[19:53] <rggarcia> jaunty??
[19:53] <aga> 8.10 that's the one you need :)
[19:53] <aga> no beta versions please ;)
[19:53] <Unksi> rggarcia: jaunty = 9.04
[19:53] <shock_day13> kubuntu 9.04 JAUNTY JACKLOPE
[19:54] <Unksi> still in beta, not recommended for normal users at the moment
[19:54] <aga> we're all normal Unksi :p
[19:54] <Unksi> aga: yea but i mean, users that are not comfortable having their systems totally crash any second and that dont know how to fix that ;)
[19:54] <joshjtl> hey folks, anyone get plasma widget stasks to run on Intrepid?
[19:55] <aga> i know i know Unksi just joking :D
[19:55] <Unksi> :p
[19:55] <aga> joshjtl:  is that a widget from kde 4.1??
[19:55] <rggarcia> right so i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:55] <aga> because those, won't work on kde 4,2
[19:55] <aga> nooo rggarcia
[19:55] <rggarcia> no?
[19:55] <joshjtl> aga: no, i used to use it in Jaunty
[19:55] <aga> see rggarcia
[19:56] <aga> right now you're using 64 bits, 8.04 64 bits
[19:56] <rggarcia> right
[19:56] <aga> if you use apt-get dist-upgrade, you will be using 8.10 but still 64 bits
[19:56] <joshjtl> aga: theres a package made in ppa but it wont install for me...
[19:56] <rggarcia> yes understood..
[19:56] <aga> if you want to change to 32 bits, you need to download the 8,10 live cd, and install it, but you will lose everything
[19:57] <rggarcia> so you think that i should install the 32-b version?
[19:57] <aga> we'll help you to set everything up if you need it
[19:57] <Unksi> aga: you can't upgrade between releases with apt-get dist-upgrade, you have to use the separate system update tool for that
[19:57] <aga> rggarcia:  i think it would be less complicated at some points
[19:57] <aga> hmmmm
[19:57] <aga> hmmm Unksi???
[19:57] <shock_day13> hey aga should i mention mysql password this time?
[19:57] <aga> never tried in kubuntu but i upgraded to lenny like that
[19:57] <aga> i think
[19:58] <aga> i did shock_day13 just enter whatever
[19:58] <shock_day13> k
[19:58] <joshjtl> intrepid doesnt seem to use kde looks for gtk apps (in particular firefox)
[19:58] <Unksi> aga: like instructed here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:58] <aga> hmmm now i don't know underdog7
[19:58] <rggarcia> aga and u think that ubuntu is the best one for me now?
[19:58] <Unksi> aga: ubuntu is a bit different on upgrading than lenny :)
[19:58] <aga> rggarcia:  i do not think ;p i know ubuntu and kubuntu are great for starters
[19:58] <aga> yeah i've noticed Unksi sorry
[19:59] <underdog7> aga: ?
[19:59] <Unksi> if i remember right, ubuntu should not be upgraded to a newer release like that since hoary/breezy
[19:59] <aga> i have never upgraded... when it's time to upgrade i change distro :p you know exploring different worlds
[19:59] <aga> i go and come hihi
[19:59] <Unksi> :)
[20:00] <Unksi> i usually just do a fresh install
[20:00] <aga> rggarcia:  just start by ubuntu or kubuntu the one you like better... once you feel confi you can decide if you want to stay or try some other things
[20:00] <shock_day13> but i guess i had seen upgrade option in suse
[20:00] <aga> yeah that's my point Unksi... for a fresh install i go for really fresh stuf :P
[20:00] <Unksi> then again, i usually switch between stable kubuntu, development kubuntu and debian unstable every 1-2 months :p
[20:01] <aga> my next switch is gonna be gentoo we will see how it goes , bet we'll see us here again in a week
[20:01] <Unksi> depending on how i feel on what i want to use :p
[20:01] <Unksi> atm i have debian unstable on eeepc and intrepid with 4.2 on my laptop
[20:01] <aga> you see... on me depends on how much adventure i feel like having
[20:01] <rggarcia> understood..,,,i'll download it from kubuntu.org
[20:02] <beer_> I plan to switch when kde 4 hits debian testing
[20:02] <aga> hmmm
[20:03] <Unksi> its coming to unstable in next few days/week or so
[20:03] <aga> uuu got a bunch of things to do here and too little time
[20:04] <aga> see you around guys have a nice one
[20:04] <Unksi> see you
[20:05] <rggarcia> Unksi, should i try kubuntu 8.04 ou 8.10?
[20:05] <rggarcia> 32-b
[20:05] <Unksi> rggarcia: do you have any problems with 64bit?
[20:06] <rggarcia> yes with some packs..
[20:06] <Unksi> which ones?
[20:06] <rggarcia> i can't install because the arch
[20:06] <beer_> rggarci; do you like kde 4.1 or kde 3.5
[20:06] <rggarcia> for example, somes kubuntu the,es...the most of them is 32-b
[20:07] <Unksi> rggarcia: then the quick & easy solution is to install 32bit version
[20:07] <rggarcia> sorry beer, but i'm new here..i don't know the dif between them...i''m using kubuntu 8.04
[20:07] <shock_day13> HEY FELLOWS WHICH HAS BEEN YOUR FAVOURITE DISTRO TILL NOW?
[20:08] <rggarcia> righ Unksi..but Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10?
[20:08] <OutoLumo> rggarcia, is it blueish or blacksh?-)
[20:08] <OutoLumo> blackish
[20:08] <beer_> rggarcia: are you happy wiht kubuntu 8.04?
[20:08] <Unksi> rggarcia: i'd say, use 8.04 for now, maybe try 9.04 when it comes out if you feel adventurous :)
[20:08] <rggarcia> ok..i'll try it..but in 32b arch
[20:09] <Unksi> shock_day13: either kubuntu or sidux/debian unstable with kde, wouldnt recommend that to new users though
[20:09] <rggarcia> yes..i'm happy, but if there any newer  things, i'd prefer
[20:09] <shock_day13> mine would be KUBUNTU 8.10
[20:09] <beer_> why does new pople always think that new=bether ;)
[20:09] <shock_day13> but im dying to use kde 4.2.2
[20:09] <rggarcia> what is the dif betw 8.04 and 8.10?
[20:10] <rggarcia> no..i didt say that..
[20:10] <Unksi> rggarcia: main difference is kde 3.5 -> kde 4.1
[20:10] <beer_> personligt I would stay with kde 3.5 (in this case kubuntu 8.04) to at least kde 4.3 (kubuntu 9.04)
[20:10] <rggarcia> right...appearence?
[20:10] <beer_> 9.10^
[20:11] <shock_day13> 9.04 will be having kde 4.3???????????????????
[20:11] <Unksi> shock_day13: 9.10 will
[20:11] <Angelo> 'we]d3]\d
[20:11] <Unksi> he made a typo and corrected it^
[20:11] <shock_day13> k
[20:12] <Unksi> 9.04 will have 4.2.2
[20:12] <shock_day13> thts good too
[20:12] <beer_> in kde 4.2 there is stil some problem with 2 x session on 2 different screens
[20:13] <beer_> so there are at least one bug that prevent me from upgradeing
[20:13] <shock_day13> then upgrade to kde4.2.1 or kde 4.2.2
[20:13] <OutoLumo> shock_day13, kde 4.3 will be out in... August?
[20:14] <shock_day13> i dunno
[20:14] <beer_> that would not help since I am missing a featur and kde 4.2.2 is only bugfixing to kde 4.2
[20:15] <beer_> and kde 4.3 will be out on July 28th  http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[20:15] <shock_day13> hey unski is it that i'll have to upgrade to kde 4.2 from 4.1 before going to 4.2.2?
[20:16] <OutoLumo> I'm sticking with KDE 3.5 until Kubuntu 9.4; I need some updates in my system, so I need to install 9.04 and KDE 4.2 comes with it. I've heard it's tolerable, though I'm waiting for 4.3 myself.
[20:23] <ubuntuNOOB> i have problem installing kubuntu 8.10DVD AMD64, it seems that iso is corrupted, can i try to install by internet whitout cd or dvd?!
[20:24] <Unksi> ubuntuNOOB: you need to have a cd to install, if the iso is corrupted, try downloading it again
[20:25] <ubuntuNOOB> i have downloaded it 5 times, no problem with debian etch lol #?%$"&
[20:26] <ubuntuNOOB> i fiund this tip, do u know someting about it? http://www.howtoforge.com/unetbootin_windows_ubuntu_fedora
[20:26] <Unksi> how does it show up as corrupted?
[20:27] <ubuntuNOOB> simple when i try install, it don't start
[20:28] <Unksi> at which point?
[20:28] <ubuntuNOOB> this with last torrent download, and with other dvd i burned times ago it return me error pnpbios
[20:28] <ubuntuNOOB> just next i go for install ubuntu menu
[20:29] <Unksi> have you been able to install ubuntu on that machine before?
[20:30] <CartoonCat> hello all
[20:30] <ubuntuNOOB> i come from debian
[20:30] <ubuntuNOOB> my machine is pentium dD
[20:30] <ubuntuNOOB> it's 3 years old
[20:31] <Unksi> hi CartoonCat
[20:31] <CartoonCat> Is there a recomended way to install over a existing system while keeping the /home directory? (existing gentoo, going to kubuntu 8.10 or maybe 9.04)
[20:32] <Unksi> CartoonCat: only if you have /home in a separate partition
[20:32] <ubuntuNOOB> i think i have old debian parttion
[20:32] <Unksi> i do that and i can reinstall while retaining all my settings and data :)
[20:33] <CartoonCat> Unksi: I was afraid of that
[20:34] <Unksi> CartoonCat: you could try using a live cd to remove everything except your /home from there and shrinking the partition to create a second one, but i would take backups before trying that
[20:34] <Unksi> and if you have those backups, its just easier to delete it and create new partitions, and then just restore your /home :)
[20:34] <CartoonCat> Unksi: and at that point, might as well blow everything away and come in clean =)
[20:35] <AndySpain> hi!
[20:35] <Unksi> CartoonCat: yep :)
[20:35] <Unksi> hi AndySpain
[20:35] <AndySpain> how can i listen to online radio stations like htt://www.surmusic.com
[20:35] <CartoonCat> guess ill go to the office and shot everything over to the backup
[20:35] <CartoonCat> might as well pickup 9.04 while im at it
[20:36] <AndySpain> they need integrated windows media player or realplayer and I tried with konqueror and firefox but none works
[20:37] <Unksi> AndySpain: not sure but you could try with some kind of vlc or mplayer plugin
[20:38] <AndySpain> Unksi. firefox says it needs a plugin and i klick on search and it tells me no adecuate plugin is found
[20:38] <Unksi> AndySpain: yep, you need a plugin.. vlc or mplayer might have one, not sure if they have one for wmv though
[20:40] <AndySpain> where to get them?
[20:40] <AndySpain> firefox searches itself, but doesn't find nothing
[20:41] <Unksi> from your package manager, adept
[20:41] <Unksi> mozilla-plugin-vlc or mozilla-mplayer
[20:42] <AndySpain> ah, ok
[20:52] <AndySpain> mozilla-mplayer seems to buffer at leas.
[20:52] <AndySpain> least
[20:56] <thebe> 150 Ok to send data.
[20:56] <thebe> 451 Failure writing to local file.
[20:56] <thebe> this is the error message during uploading of file in fTp server
[20:56] <thebe> could any of you help me??
[20:58] <thebe> file is created but with 0 byte size!
[20:58] <AndySpain> mozilla-plugin-vlc does not ecxist, and mozilla-mplayer "plays" the radio stations however withouth sound
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:17] <thebe> 150 Ok to send data.
[21:17] <thebe> 451 Failure writing to local file.
[21:18] <thebe> what should this error message treated in FTP upload??
[21:19] <AndySpain> ok, gotta go again
[21:19] <AndySpain> thanks
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> what does ftp error 451 mean
[21:19] <AndySpain> bye
[21:20] <andres_> Hi, I'm very new to linux, I've used PDT (http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/) in windows w/out problems but I'm not able to install it in kubuntu
[21:20] <diavol0> Hello
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> !info eclipse
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> andres_: http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/downloads/   get the linux version
[21:22] <andres_> yeah I did
[21:22] <andres_> I downloaded a tar file
[21:22] <andres_> with an executable (I think) but it doesn't run
[21:22] <andres_> I also installed JRM and JDK with synaptic
[21:23] <jussi01> taris an archive...
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> andres_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipsePDT
[21:25] <andres_> thx ActionParsnip, I'll try it
[21:26] <ubuntuNOOB> Hi again, i try to run kubuntu 8.10 AMD64 on my sistenr's pc, and work great! but when i try to run it on my pc don't start after kubuntu boot menu, we have both sata HD, she have amd and i have Pentium, my motherboard is asus p5b and pentium D as processor...any suggestion? i runned debian etch great on my pc time ago
[21:28] <thebe> Actionparnship
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: if you can ssh into the faulty system you will be able to read dmesg and other logs to diagnose
[21:28] <thebe> I got this error message while uploading my file to ftp server
[21:28] <thebe> is it for me??
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | ubuntuNOOB
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> thebe: 451           Requested action aborted, local error in processing.
[21:29] <ubuntuNOOB> ActionParsnip: yes i got the prompt, what i should see for?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> any errors or warnings
[21:29] <thebe> I tried to read /var/log/messages too
[21:29] <thebe> but no idea
[21:29] <ubuntuNOOB> i read could be jmicron that isn't supported from kernel < 2.18
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: did you md5 check the ISO you used to install the system with as well as verify the burned CD was consistant on te first cd boot screen?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: its the hardware thats supported, not the manufacturer
[21:30] <ubuntuNOOB> the DVD run 'couse i try it on other pc and works great
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: doesnt matter, md5 check the iso to make sure its correct. bad cd == bad install
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: also boot to the cd and run the verifier
[21:31] <thebe> vsftpd: error attempting to parse .ecryptfsrc file; rc = [-5]
[21:31] <thebe> this is what i see in var/log/message output
[21:32] <thebe> Unable to read salt value from user's .ecryptfsrc file;  using defaault
[21:32] <thebe> this is other message
[21:33] <ubuntuNOOB> ActionParsnip i downloaded the iso from torrent and i have a list of MD5checksum, very long list, so i do check try'n to run on other pc and goo
[21:33] <Guest62958> Is there a support room like this for Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest62958: #ubuntu
[21:35] <Guest62958> Thank you
[21:36] <ubuntuNOOB> ok i'll come later just few minutes
[21:49] <Sir-Gon> what app has been replaced kooka for scan?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !scanner
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !info kooka
[21:51] <Sir-Gon> does not exists in jaunty too
[21:51] <Sir-Gon> :(
[22:00] <Sir-Gon> kubuntu without kooka == epic fail :(
[22:00] <demmon> how can i see whats in my usb
[22:00] <demmon> it was smt like lubs
[22:00] <Sir-Gon> lsusb
[22:00] <demmon> thanks Sir-Gon
[22:01] <demmon> Sir-Gon:  another one so i can see whats the name of my cam
[22:02] <Sir-Gon> lsusb -v
[22:05] <demmon> !uvc
[22:05] <demmon> how can i install uvc
[22:07] <Mamarok> demmon: what is uvc?
[22:07] <demmon> drivers for my web cam
[22:07] <demmon> cuz
[22:08] <demmon> 8.10 have problems with my web cam
[22:08] <Mamarok> oh, you mean the USB videao grabber?
[22:08] <demmon> dunno
[22:08] <demmon> i dont think so
[22:08] <noren> hi all
[22:08] <pato> hi
[22:08] <demmon> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[22:08] <Mamarok> there are two packages, luvcview and uvccapture
[22:09] <Mamarok> demmon: try to install those
[22:10] <demmon> i dont know how
[22:10] <Mamarok> demmon: with the package manager, those packages are in the universe repositorie
[22:10] <Mamarok> +s
[22:10] <demmon> lemme see
[22:12] <LiMaO> hey, just for reference: anyone looking to disable the xdg user dirs under kde, just edit /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf and set the 'enabled' variable to 'false'
[22:12] <demmon> yeap they are there Mamarok thanks
[22:12] <Mamarok> demmon: if you are looking for a package, you can try the following command in the command line:
[22:13] <Mamarok> apt-cache search packagename
[22:13] <Mamarok> if you get a result, it's in the repos
[22:13] <EagleScreen> hi people
[22:13] <LiMaO> anyone else in here having problems installing kubuntu-restricted-extras? the meta package doesn't install anything at all.. installing everything manually will present problems when installing java.. sun-java* packages are having problems showing the license
[22:14] <EagleScreen> My computer hangs very often, and I would like some help to determine if it is caused by Xorg/graphic driver problem or by ext4
[22:14] <Mamarok> ok, off to bed, good night everyone
[22:16] <LiMaO> is there a way of downgrading from amarok 2 to 1.x?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> hey all, is there a way to generate a pseudo mouse button if both left mouse button and right mouse button are depressed
[22:22] <noren_> !hi | ActionParsnip
[22:23] <ubuntuNOOB> i have found a list of checksum for kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso but i can't find now, someone can help?
[22:26] <noren_> ubuntulog: help in what
[22:28] <ubuntuNOOB> i cant' check my checksum 'couse i don't find it on internet
[22:28] <noren_> which cheksum do u want
[22:28] <ubuntuNOOB> kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[22:28] <ryan-c> anyone have any idea why all of the sudden kmail is sending a different helo?
[22:29] <ubuntuNOOB> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[22:29] <noren_> http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/8.10/
[22:32] <ubuntuNOOB> no, for kubuntu
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: b1c19abb80f60194264c471861d815ef *kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[22:32] <ubuntuNOOB> lol thanks
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[22:33] <ubuntuNOOB> ok the checksum is OK
[22:33] <noren_> oh ubuntuNOOB :: http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/kubuntu/8.10/
[22:33] <ubuntuNOOB> and i try again to install from testual mode and it doesen't find my cd reader
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: did you check the cd on the first boot screen?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: if that passes, check this link
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[22:37] <ubuntuNOOB> no i don't
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuNOOB: then run the check, also did yuo burn the cd at the slowest speed
[22:41] <ubuntuNOOB> yes i did, the DVD run on my sister's pc, have checksum correct
[22:41] <ubuntuNOOB> and we have the same dvd/cd reader
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> ko then use bootoptions to disable acpi and dma
[22:43] <ubuntuNOOB> i try to disable acpi but not dma
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> disable as much as you can
[22:44] <ubuntuNOOB> lol
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> you could even go into bios to disable hardware thats unneeded like soundcards and network adapters
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> just til you get installed
[22:45] <ubuntuNOOB> uhm well i'll try
[22:45] <ubuntuNOOB> why all this problem?
[22:46] <sourcemaker> which finance tool is besser? kmymoney or gnucash?
[22:53] <Abwehr> Hello folks!  I'm having some trouble using cmake.  Does anyone know enough to help me?  I'm trying to install a plasmoid right now.
[22:54] <Abwehr> It's giving me a compiler not found error... I'm trying to run cmake about half-way through the installation process.
[22:54] <Abwehr> I downloaded KDevelop but that didn't seem to help.
[22:56] <Abwehr> It's this step in particular that isn't working out...
[22:56] <Abwehr> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`
[22:56] <Kyokamui> I need an nfs expert to help me out here
[22:57] <Kyokamui> mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[22:57] <Kyokamui> never seen that before
[23:01] <the7thmagus_> hey, I am using Kubuntu Jaunty and my file delete and empty trash operations do not work
[23:02] <the7thmagus_> its just stalled and stays there forever. KIOslave delete process takes up massive CPU time
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !nfs
[23:06] <Abwehr> !cmake
[23:08] <b23> hi, I want to install the newest version of KDE (4.2) over my ubuntu 8.10 install, how can I do that?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> b23: KDE 4.2.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2
[23:10] <b23> ActionParsnip: ok thanks the link helps
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> :D
[23:11] <b23> is it better to wait for jaunty?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> b23: your call. ive got jaunty running fine but thats me
[23:13] <b23> b23: ok ic
[23:23] <tomb_> hi - jaunty refused to update kdebase-runtime telling me that it needs kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 in version 4:4.2.1-0ubuntu2 but 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 is installed
[23:24]  * Nielsen does the jaunty
[23:31] <vistakiller> what happen to kubuntuforum.net?
[23:32] <sourcemaker> KMymoney: how can I sync my account via homepaging?
[23:32] <EagleScreen> Bug #1
[23:41] <jahbulon> linux sucks
[23:41] <jahbulon> i installed eclipse
[23:41] <jahbulon> and it screwed up my java such that i can't even run frostwire
[23:42] <jahbulon> what ever happened to seperation of concerns ?
[23:44] <jahbulon> http://rafb.net/p/Rap3bv32.html
[23:45] <jahbulon> what do i have to type to make it work?
[23:46] <herrow> Hello? How can I get some help?
[23:46] <jahbulon> by asking your question.
[23:46] <herrow> So, I
[23:47] <herrow> i tried changing the admin, and deleted the initial user..but not i dont have an admin and therefore cant create one..is there somethign i can do?
[23:48] <efisio> ciao
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> herrow- if you deleted the only user in the admin group and you haven't set a password for root, there probably isn't much you can do
[23:51] <derek> Hello all... I a using kde4 and a trying to revert back to the traditional desktop/icon arrangement from the current "folder view" widget thing
[23:51] <derek> I just want things to flow with my desktop...  Can anyone give me some advice?
[23:51] <Dragnslcr> At least short of finding some local exploit you can use
[23:52] <EagleScreen> yes derek there is a bug with that
[23:52] <derek> EagleScreen: are there details anywhere? or maybe a fix?
[23:52] <Dragnslcr> derek- well, putting a folder view pointing to ~/Desktop on your desktop does the same thing
[23:53] <Dragnslcr> Though I think 4.2 has a setting to make it look like the old style
[23:53] <EagleScreen> I supuse you are changing to Desktop view and a few seconds later it go bak to folder view is it?
[23:53] <derek> Dragnsclr:  I don't like widgits and prefer it to flow w/ the desktop as it used to not as a module.  If I wanted to view a folder I would open a couple windows and then be able to navigate tehm using the taskbar
[23:55] <EagleScreen> derek tell me if your problem is as I described
[23:55] <joshjtl> is there anything i can install that wont install all gnome libs to config gtk themes?
[23:55] <herrow> not much i can do? theres no way to basically restart my whole computer?
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> herrow- sure, you can always reinstall the operating system
[23:56] <EagleScreen> joshjtl: sudo aptitude -R install gtk-qt-engine
[23:56] <herrow> would I need a CD for that?
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> derek- have you seen the folder view on a desktop? It works exactly the same as the old style
[23:57] <joshjtl> EagleScreen: that doesnt allow me to configure the gtk themes just apply them
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> herrow- most likely
[23:57] <EagleScreen> oh
[23:57] <EagleScreen> herrow do you need root password?
[23:58] <herrow> yeah, i do..
[23:58] <herrow> is there a sort of universal root password?
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> Nope
[23:59] <Dragnslcr> By default, there is no root password. Everything goes through sudo and uses your normal user password
[23:59] <EagleScreen> herrow if you have GRUB woth no password you can change root password now
[23:59] <Dragnslcr> That's new
[23:59] <EagleScreen> or if you can uso sudo run 'sudo passwd'
[23:59] <joshjtl> EagleScreen: is there anything i can install that will let me actually configure the gtk theme?