[02:06] <PCTeacher012> does no one come on here to report bugs?
[02:06] <scream> Bugs are reported to the bug tracker.
[02:06] <scream> Do you need the address?
[02:09] <PCTeacher012> nah, im on the site now, i was just wondering why no one came on here, thinking ppl would report bugs so i could help
[02:09] <PCTeacher012> maybe lol
[02:11] <Kangarooo> i want to try 5a day
[02:12] <Kangarooo> im not a developer but i could try..
[02:12] <Kangarooo> i could do 5 a day in marketing team..
[02:13] <Kangarooo> one bug i want to make is witch is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/BugsForExtraPoints  #1 bug windows
[02:13] <Kangarooo> so give me hugs as im going to make windows wanish :)
[02:36] <PCTeacher012> Do we discuss bugs here? Point of this chatroom is that? :)
[02:39] <Kangarooo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/BugsForExtraPoints   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day
[02:44] <Hew> PCTeacher012: We discuss how to triage bugs.
[02:45] <Kangarooo> triage?
[02:45] <Kangarooo> foundin dictionary :)
[02:46] <PCTeacher012> Hew: Triage? Lol
[02:46] <Hew> PCTeacher012: lol
[02:47] <Hew> PCTeacher012: Maybe you should read the links in the topic
[02:47] <PCTeacher012> which one? :)
[02:49] <Hew> PCTeacher012: ...Read them http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
[02:53] <PCTeacher012> thank you Hew
[02:53] <Hew> PCTeacher012: No problem
[07:00] <JanC> meh, there is a bug in the apport retracing service where it invalidates crash reports because i don't have scroolkeeper installed?
[07:04] <JanC> this probably means that a lot of other crasher bugs have been automaticly invalidated too...  :-(
[07:51] <JanC> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/355481
[12:38] <Guest35917> Hi all.. I'm facing a bug in kubuntu, and I find on google people having it on ubuntu also.. "unknown" X entries in xrestop output quickly proliferate and I can no more start X applications..
[12:39] <Guest35917> I can't find a fix on google for it
[12:39] <Guest35917> can someone give me some pointer please?
[12:39] <Guest35917> is it a xorg bug?
[12:53] <Guest35917> some further google search points me to a gnome-screensaver bug, but I don't believe it because i can reproduce on KDE, and to a xloadimage bug
[12:53] <Guest35917> someone knows anything about this?
[12:57] <Guest35917> Also it seems that other distributions have this bug (fedora, gentoo). Is seems the bug has been assigned to several different applications, thinking they was not releasing X resources..
[13:05] <mnemo> sry never heard of anything like that
[13:05] <mnemo> open a bug in LP and use "ubuntu-bug xorg" to do it so it auto attaches all the logs
[13:05] <mnemo> also attach screenshots of xrestop showing the problem etc so people understand what the issue is
[13:08] <Guest35917> what is LP? can you provide me a link where to post the bug?
[13:08] <Guest35917> please
[13:09] <mnemo> I mean launchpad.net (LP)
[13:10] <Guest35917> ok
[13:10] <Guest35917> thanks
[13:10] <mnemo> however
[13:10] <mnemo> if you run the command "ubuntu-bug xorg" in a terminal
[13:10] <mnemo> then it will file a bug on LP but it will also auto include lots of info/logs etc
[13:10] <Guest35917> oh ok
[13:10] <Guest35917> going to do it.
[13:10] <Guest35917> thank you a lot
[13:10] <Guest35917> hmmm
[13:10] <Guest35917> does not work
[13:10] <Guest35917> root@deathstart:/home/andrea# ubuntu-bug xorg
[13:10] <Guest35917> Maximum number of clients reached: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[13:11] <mnemo> aah you're in a ssh shell?
[13:11] <Guest35917> no
[13:11] <Guest35917> this is the bug I was talking about
[13:11] <Guest35917> I can no more
[13:11] <Guest35917> run X applications
[13:11] <Guest35917> because
[13:11] <mnemo> aaah lol : ok thats unfortunately
[13:11] <Guest35917> X resources finishs
[13:11] <mnemo> yea
[13:11] <mnemo> hmm
[13:12] <Guest35917> and before they reach 255
[13:12] <Guest35917> I can see them increasing quickily
[13:12] <Guest35917> with xrestop
[13:12] <mnemo> try using "apport-cli -f -p xorg" instead?
[13:12] <mnemo> does that work?
[13:13] <Guest35917> seems it does something.. At least it is running..
[13:13] <Guest35917> yes, it is uploading problem informations..
[13:13] <mnemo> sweet
[13:14] <mnemo> make sure you add more info to the bug though because it cant automatically attach useful things like a screenshot of the xrestop thing
[13:14] <mnemo> and also the error you get trying to launch x.org apps etc
[13:15] <mnemo> anyway, in case you ever need it... the manual way to report ubuntu bugs to to use this URL: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[13:15] <Guest35917> ok
[13:15] <mnemo> and then manually attack xorg.log, dmesg and what not
[13:15] <Guest35917> will the apport-cli
[13:15] <Guest35917> ask me to attach stuff?
[13:16] <mnemo> i think it will automatically attach the kinds of log files that is needed to debug bugs in the package you specified (xorg in this case)
[13:16] <mnemo> but I usually use the "ubuntu-bug xorg" command
[13:16] <mnemo> so I never tried the apport way
[13:16] <Guest35917> but not the xrestop screenshot... hmm maybe I will file a bug by hand..
[13:16] <mnemo> yeah
[13:17] <mnemo> for this particular bug I think its useful to attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors in particular
[13:17] <Guest35917> ok
[13:17] <mnemo> and it might also be useful to reboot the machine with "ModeDebug" set to true in xorg.conf
[13:18] <Guest35917> Ah...
[13:18] <mnemo> if you're running xorg in ModeDebug then it puts more info into xorg.log that usual
[13:18] <Guest35917> this is a very good info to know..
[13:18] <mnemo> i have to make lunch now
[13:19] <mnemo> cya
[13:19] <mnemo> :)
[13:19] <Guest35917> thank you a lot
[13:19] <Guest35917> good lunch
[13:19] <Guest35917> byr
[13:19] <Guest35917> bye
[13:28] <BUGabundo> guud afternoon everyone
[13:30] <mnemo> hi BUGabundo :)
[13:31] <BUGabundo> hey mnemo
[14:50] <Pfiffer> Is python 2.6 bugged in the new Jaunty updates?
[14:58] <BUGabundo> Pfiffer: why do you ask?
[15:00] <BUGabundo> hggdh: ping
[15:00] <Pfiffer> Was just looking at this one bug report, and I thought I'd heard something about it earlier.
[15:02] <pleia2> Pfiffer: yes there were some issues
[15:02] <Pfiffer> Ah, okay, thanks BUGabundo.
[15:02] <Pfiffer> and pleia2 >_>
[15:02] <Pfiffer> Im tired.
[15:03] <pleia2> they've worked on them, but if you still see problems that haven't been reported, you should :)
[15:04] <pleia2> related: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-April/thread.html#28039
[15:51] <BUGabundo> can some one triage bug 355671 ?
[16:11] <qense> I think someone marked bug 155201 wrongly as a security risk.
[16:12] <qense> Especially considering the fact that the person who changed it uses an @msn.com mail address as account name.
[16:13] <greg-g> qense: yeah, I would undo that.
[16:13] <greg-g> also, but, it is closed, so it doesn't really matter
[16:13] <greg-g> erm, s/also, but,/but,/
[16:14] <qense> ok
[16:14] <qense> should the account be reported?
[16:15] <greg-g> why?
[16:15] <qense> he makes invalid changes
[16:16] <qense> would you, being an new user of LP, accidentiatly mark a bug as a security risk?
[16:16] <qense> It took me a while before I actually found that option.
[16:16] <greg-g> it is their first action
[16:17] <greg-g> and it doesn't have a negative effect on anyone (I'm confused how you found this bug since it was marked invalid in November, actually).
[16:17] <hggdh> BUGabundo, pong
[16:17] <qense> I'm still subscribed to it ;)
[16:18] <greg-g> qense: ah :)
[16:18] <greg-g> that makes sense :)
[16:19] <qense> well, we'll see if the user is going to react on the change
[16:19] <greg-g> well, this was done over a week ago, and they haven't done anything else, so I wouldn't worry about it.  There are many more people who make more unneeded changes on bugs.
[16:19] <qense> ok
[16:21] <hggdh> but it is interesting, why would one mark as a security risk an invalid bug?
[16:22] <qense> yeah
[16:22] <qense> that's what's bugging me
[16:24] <hggdh> well, this seems to be the only bug touched by this user. Let's consider a mistake on experimenting, at least right now
[16:25] <greg-g> yeah, no big deal
[17:03] <savvas> has anyone noticed an open bug about nautilus not being able to sort properly?
[17:03] <BUGabundo> nope
[17:06] <dtchen> how so? what sorting semantics in what context?
[17:08] <savvas> hold a sec
[17:09] <savvas> dtchen: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=44385
[17:10] <savvas> "ls -1" sorts it fine however: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144997/
[17:12] <Laibsch> Hi
[17:12] <Laibsch> Anybody willing to push bug 355714?  It's ready to be uploaded.
[17:20] <andol> Regarding bug #325393. What do you do when you've reported a bug upstream, but there is no info in Launchpad on how to use "Also affects project" for that particular package?
[17:24] <james_w> andol: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntop/+bug/325393/+affects-new-product
[17:24] <savvas> hm.. this sorting problems seems a locale/utf8 problem
[17:25] <james_w> I typed ntop in to the search box an d it offered that
[17:30] <andol> james_w: Of course, thanks.
[18:12] <savvas> wheow, done: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578048 - I just hope it's correct :)
[18:58] <hggdh> savvas, there was a thread on coreutils just a few ago about that
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> where is the bug help gnome IRC #?
[19:39] <BUGabundo1> I'm trying to get urgent feed back on http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577893
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/353444
[19:47] <hggdh> BUGabundo1, help on Gnome bugs is at #bugs, at irc.gnome.org
[19:47] <BUGabundo1> thanks
[19:47] <hggdh> BUGabundo1, this is generic help on bugs
[19:47] <BUGabundo1> hea.. there recommendation lead me to create 700MiBs logs
[20:34] <savvas> hggdh: Are there any plans for the sort to be fixed? and.. do you happen to have a link handy? :)
[21:02] <Ienorand> Hello, regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284377 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/291449 would it be better to mark the latter one as a dupe (even though it's older), since we've got more info on the former, also... I was going to mark it confirmed against network-manager and invalid vs kernel...
[21:03] <Ienorand> Comments on that?
[21:06] <hggdh> savvas, let me get the links. Please note that this relates to 'ls' usage, and 'sort' (the coreutils utilities)
[21:07] <hggdh> savvas, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-03/msg00090.html
[21:09] <savvas> hggdh: awesome! thank you very very much!
[21:09] <hggdh> savvas, welcome. Please note that a lot has changed from coreutils 6.10 (Jaunty) and current 7.2
[21:10] <hggdh> Ienorand, if the newer bug has more applicable data than the old, then no problem in marking the old one a dup of the newer
[21:10] <savvas> ok - I'll just follow that thread :)
[21:21] <ubuntunewkid> can somebody help me?
[21:22] <ubuntunewkid> i use ubuntu 9.04 beta on virtual pc 2007 sp1 and there is no sound...i know thats a problem with ubuntu but i dont know how to fix it
[21:22] <BUGabundo1> ubuntunewkid: what's up?
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> my sound card is on-board
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> why is it a prob with ubuntu?
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> do you have a LP bug or it?
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> i have no idea why
[21:23] <ubuntunewkid> ask the developers of ubuntu
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> well actually it sound like a MSFT Virtual box prob
[21:23] <BUGabundo1> the onboard card has nothing to do with it
[21:24] <BUGabundo1> since Ubuntu only see the emulated on from VPC
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> ok
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> ...wait, i can change the settings in vpc, so...
[21:24] <ubuntunewkid> other than the sound, ubuntu 9.04 beta works great!
[21:25] <ubuntunewkid> some developers clearly went to great heights to get this release going strong
[21:25] <ubuntunewkid> i only use vpc, so i dont have to dedicate my pc to the beta 9.04
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> not many users on +1 have audio prob, at this moment
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> either you have a new bug, or it is related to MSFT VPC
[21:26] <ubuntunewkid> i think its related to msft vpc...but ill check
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> file it on launchpad, and let the audio team triage
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> $ ubuntu-bug pulseaudio
[21:26] <ubuntunewkid> thanks for the tip
[21:26] <BUGabundo1> you will also need to run the alsa script
[21:27] <BUGabundo1> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[21:27] <ubuntunewkid> ok, thanks
[21:33] <torkiano> hello, what is tha package of bug #346083? libpam-fprint (http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libpam-fprint) ?
[21:33] <torkiano> or another related to gnome?
[21:36] <dtchen> gnome-control-center, probably
[21:41] <hggdh> yes indeed
[21:41] <torkiano> Ubuntu has not support "out-of-the-box" for this Gnome 2.26 feature?
[21:42] <hggdh> torkiano, the last comment sort of sets the expectation (unreleased version of libusb)
[21:43] <hggdh> so... I really doubt it will make it into Jaunty
[21:43] <torkiano> hggdh: I see, thank you, I've changed the packge and confirmed the bug
[21:44] <hggdh> oh, BTW -- you can always try dpkg -S <path> to find which package has this <path>
[21:45] <hggdh> for example, dpkg -S gnome-about-me
[21:45] <hggdh> and then you figure out which of the packages might be the correct one
[21:47] <torkiano> hggdh: thank you for the tip. Can you set the importance of the bug, please?
[21:53] <hggdh> torkiano, what is the importance you would like?
[21:57] <torkiano> hggdh: I'd like high importance ;-), but reading  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance I think medium importance is good (problem with a non-essential hardware component)
[21:58] <hggdh> torkiano, hum. We are depending on a not-yet-released library. Wouldn't "Wishlist" be better? You can add in a comment stating why you consider it high-importance
[22:01] <torkiano> hggdh: yes, you are rigth. Maybe a "wishlist" importance would be better
[22:02] <hggdh> torkiano, done. Thank you.
[22:14] <BUGabundo> doko: ping
[22:14] <BUGabundo> python2.5 (2.5.4-1ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low
[22:14] <BUGabundo> what was this python update about?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> can't it be the root of my python installers probs?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> bye everyone