[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r110 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Avoid removing the bcd boot menu multiple times (LP: #354882)
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Remove wubildr files from each drive
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi: * Check that file extraction from ISO is successful before trying to
[02:20] <CIA-28> wubi:  parse the file (LP: #351966)
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r111 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: The path of the original executable is now quoted, but the quotes
[03:03] <CIA-28> wubi: have to be stripped out within python (LP: #341605)
[03:16] <CIA-28> wubi: Agostino Russo * r112 trunk/ (77 files in 2 dirs): Updated translations from rosetta
[20:39] <goodlinuxuser> hi
[20:41] <goodlinuxuser> how i can chage language ubiquity or add new entry
[21:09] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: are you the same person I've been corresponding with by e-mail? (Persian?)
[21:10] <cjwatson> yes, apparently so
[21:11] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: the things you are trying will not help much. You will get a partially-translated installer and that's all (basically, the strings that are implemented in the ubiquity frontend rather than in the backend code - so for example half the partitioner will be untranslated)
[21:12] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: and your work will not be available to anyone else
[21:12] <cjwatson> (well, not the bulk of Ubuntu users anyway)
[21:13] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: is there a reason you're resisting the suggestion I have made, which is the *only* way to get the installer translated in such a way that the translations are available to Ubuntu users?
[21:14] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: it's very frustrating for me that I've explained what you need to do but you seem not to want to listen
[21:19] <goodlinuxuser> yes i am
[21:22] <goodlinuxuser> cjwatson
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> are u there?
[21:23] <cjwatson> yes
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> excusme
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> hello again
[21:23] <goodlinuxuser> i am very sorry
[21:24] <goodlinuxuser> i was checked my mail and study your cammand
[21:25] <cjwatson> There are two reasons I'm recommending getting the Persian translations updated upstream. Firstly, it's probably actually the easiest approach for you. Applying a new translation locally yourself is actually really difficult and there's no help available for it because it isn't the usual process. Secondly, we'd love to have enough Persian translations that we can reactivate Persian for everyone!
[21:25] <goodlinuxuser> we decided created new distro basis on ubuntu
[21:27] <cjwatson> In theory it's possible to do it locally with msgmerge applied to various files, but if you aren't already an *expert* in the use of the gettext tools, this will be a total waste of your time
[21:27] <goodlinuxuser> but I love can translation will use in ubuntu
[21:27] <cjwatson> and even if you are, we'd like to get the translations integrated anyway
[21:27] <cjwatson> and the process for that is to contribute them upstream
[21:28] <goodlinuxuser> ok you say correct
[21:28] <cjwatson> I don't accept major installer translation work in Ubuntu (only the strings that are specific to Ubuntu), because the result of that is that I end up mediating between two different translation teams in sixty languages I don't speak :-)
[21:28] <cjwatson> which ... doesn't tend to work very well, to put it mildly
[21:28] <goodlinuxuser> I just a simple linux  user that dont use windows about 2years
[21:29] <cjwatson> creating a new distribution is one of the hardest things you can do ...
[21:29] <goodlinuxuser> iI have download ubiquity source file
[21:29] <cjwatson> downloading ubiquity's source is *not* the place to start
[21:31] <cjwatson> ubiquity is a frontend over the Debian installer, and so it's necessary to start with the Debian installer
[21:31] <goodlinuxuser> other my freinds could remaster ubuntu8.04 and add openoffice3,0,1, . . .
[21:32] <goodlinuxuser> and just need some change to final release
[21:33] <goodlinuxuser> I can'nt creat a new distro alone . I khow
[21:34] <cjwatson> adding a single application that's already packaged is easier than adding translations to the installer
[21:34] <goodlinuxuser> i am only update foss.ir and sometime help them
[21:34] <cjwatson> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/ is the place you should start; I'm sorry, I don't know any other way to say this
[21:35] <goodlinuxuser> I understand your mean
[21:36] <cjwatson> the thing is that the translation available in Launchpad is hideously incomplete
[21:36] <cjwatson> I don't think anyone's actually ever touched it in Launchpad - it's just imported from Debian
[21:37] <goodlinuxuser> but as i heard persian coridor not per mit this an their permit need to confirm
[21:37] <cjwatson> so just dropping in the translation from Launchpad, even if you could do this, will get you an installer that's only about 40% translated into Persian, and the rest in English
[21:37] <cjwatson> which almost certainly isn't particularly useful - it usually needs to be a lot better than that
[21:38] <cjwatson> there's no way around the fact that a translator needs to go in and actually update the translations
[21:38] <cjwatson> perhaps you can find somebody outside Iran who speaks Persian?
[21:38] <goodlinuxuser> Yes
[21:38] <cjwatson> if there's some political problem with translating it from within Iran
[21:39] <goodlinuxuser> I also spoken persian
[21:40] <cjwatson> maybe you're the one to update the translation from its current very out-of-date state, then
[21:40] <goodlinuxuser> I can add persian in lanuagelist of 1"st step of installation and sea فارسی
[21:40] <goodlinuxuser> Ok
[21:40] <cjwatson> argh
[21:41] <cjwatson> work with d-i upstream, please!
[21:41] <cjwatson> if you hack it up just for yourself, all that work will be wasted
[21:41] <goodlinuxuser> upstream means source?
[21:41] <cjwatson> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/
[21:41] <cjwatson> "upstream" means the place where the original authors of the installer work
[21:42] <goodlinuxuser> i dont wanna to use it for me or limited persian
[21:42] <goodlinuxuser> i love this translation use for all persen that want or need
[21:43] <goodlinuxuser> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/
[21:43] <goodlinuxuser> ?
[21:43] <cjwatson> right, then the way to do that is to contribute this translation to the Debian installer project, from which it will flow into Ubuntu
[21:43] <cjwatson> after you've done that, it will be worth translating the messages that are specific to Ubuntu
[21:43] <cjwatson> which you'll be able to do in Launchpad
[21:44] <cjwatson> but it only makes sense to do it that way round - if you do it the other way round, a lot of work will be wasted
[21:44] <goodlinuxuser> Thanks
[21:45] <goodlinuxuser> help me more
[21:45] <cjwatson> the d-i translation coordinator is very friendly and can help you out
[21:45] <goodlinuxuser> i dont low my work will be wasted
[21:46] <cjwatson> please do read the documentation I pointed you at; it has lots of detail and is mostly aimed at translators who are trying to do the same thing as you for other languages
[21:47] <goodlinuxuser> yes as I say Persian coordinator (Farsiweb Inc) not freindly!!
[21:50] <goodlinuxuser> i shold study this doc completely?
[21:50] <cjwatson> yes, please do
[21:50] <goodlinuxuser> here Time:1:20AM
[21:51] <cjwatson> I don't know about farsiweb, but they don't seem to have been involved in debian-installer translation for years
[21:51] <cjwatson> so I don't think they have much claim
[21:52] <goodlinuxuser> farsiweb as i know is gimp,openoffice vlc and . . . translator to persian
[21:53] <goodlinuxuser> and as i heard persian coordinator translator for persian on launchpad
[21:54] <goodlinuxuser> i should be go to university at morning
[21:55] <goodlinuxuser> thanks a lot but if you dont be angry i ask agian:
[21:56] <goodlinuxuser> i can add فارسی to languagelist in 8.10
[21:56] <goodlinuxuser> i uncomment line include #X Persian in 8.04
[21:57] <goodlinuxuser> but not see complete translation
[21:58] <goodlinuxuser> is any way to use fa.po file that found in debian folder that include tranlation of lable of glades
[21:58] <goodlinuxuser> ?
[22:00] <goodlinuxuser> readin this doc is better but i have not enough time
[22:00] <goodlinuxuser> but atlast read it
[22:22] <cjwatson> there is no (sensible) way to use the fa.po you have
[22:25] <cjwatson> firstly, it's really difficult to merge into all the right places; secondly, the one you got from Launchpad, or whatever ones you might find in existing packages, are so incomplete as to be unusable anyway
[22:34] <goodlinuxuser> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/i18n/ch01s04.html
[22:34] <goodlinuxuser> 1.4.4.  Updating/Adding translations
[22:35] <goodlinuxuser> Appendix B, Some basic notions about SVN
[22:35] <goodlinuxuser> i can nt use why?
[22:36] <goodlinuxuser> After doing so, the public part of that keypair must be put in your account on alioth.debian.org. For this, you need to output the contents of .ssh/id_dsa.pub and paste it in the relevant field of the account management page on alioth.debian.org (https://alioth.debian.org/account), in the section named Shell account informations, by clicking on Edit keys.
[22:36] <goodlinuxuser> there is no section named Shell account informations
[22:40] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: see sections 3.9, 3.10, and B.1
[22:41] <cjwatson> goodlinuxuser: for further help with this, the people listed in Appendix H would be better contacts than I
[22:41] <cjwatson> I'm a d-i developer but not a translation coordinator
[22:42] <goodlinuxuser> thanks
[22:45] <cjwatson> I've mentioned to Christian Perrier that you're likely to be in contact