[00:01] its much faster to use shell then gui [00:01] in gui i prefer kde [00:02] BTW if you want to "go for it", installing Ubuntu Server on the old Celeron machine from CD should only take you 30 minutes or so... and yes, I find the shell is more powerful than a GUI for many tasks... once you know it! [00:07] i am trying to unrar .rar file but i am getting "command not found" error [00:10] i installed rar with apt-get but still "command not found" [00:10] What exactly are you typing? [00:10] sudo unrar e file.rar [00:11] You shouldn't need sudo for that... and... did you install unrar? rar and unrar are different things. sudo apt-get install unrar # should work [00:11] ooo i did "apt-get install rar [00:12] Try sudo apt-get install unrar-free [00:12] ok now it works [00:12] Good :) [00:12] "apt-get install unrar" and it works [00:13] BTW rar is not a common archive format in the Unix/Linux world, it is more common to use tar.gz or tar.bz2 ; .rar is more common under Windows. [00:14] ok done [00:14] now is there command to burn .iso into cd [00:16] Yes... more than one... I use wodim so you can sudo apt-get-install wodim [00:17] ok got it [00:19] what is command for it? [00:21] man wodim will get you the man page :) Try just wodim somefile.iso # to burn an ISO to a CD-R [00:23] "wodim file.iso " ?? [00:24] sure. if your .iso file is called file.iso, type in the command wodim file.iso [00:24] If it is called junk.iso, type in wodim junk.iso :) [00:24] actually i am trying to burn ubuntu server [00:25] this is faaaaaaaaaaaaast [00:25] OK, so type in wodim ubuntu-8.10-server-i386.iso [00:26] much faster then using gui software for it [00:27] Yes. BTW, you might want to read http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html and http://rute.2038bug.com for some general Linux and command line learning. [00:28] thx man [00:28] No problem. [00:29] i am actually writing new command to my txt file so like tht i wont forget commands i already should know ;) [00:29] can i add you as freind or something here? [00:30] There's no real concept of "friend" on IRC in terms of telling the IRC client software that, that I know of. It all depends on your client. Xchat has a "Friends list" you can add me to if you want :) [00:33] xchat? i dont have it i think [00:34] wizardslovak_: Konversation may have a similar thing, I'm just not familiar with it. [00:35] well ill be coming here anyways [00:35] OK. Have fun installing Ubuntu Server :) [00:35] heheh [00:35] so what os u using? [00:36] Right now Ubuntu 8.10 64bit, with Jaunty in a VM and Debian in another VM and Hardy Server in yet another VM :) [00:36] lol [00:36] i have dual core cpu and actually i never tried 64bit [00:36] is it better then 32? [00:37] I love it... I got a cheap desktop with an E5200 dualcore CPU and 8Gb RAM, and ... I can run lots of VMs :) [00:37] u use vmware or vbox? [00:38] virtualbox-ose [00:38] be right back [00:40] yeah i got a quad-core server with 8gigs, trying to get some virtual machines set up using vmbuilder (command line instead of gui) [00:42] i got dual core with 4gbs and works pefrect [00:42] dug_: If you have any issues, ask in #ubuntu-virt and the folks there can probably help you out. Nice to have a CPU that can do KVM... I just couldn't justify the extra $100 for an E8400 over the E5200 when I bought this hardware... [00:42] i paid $300 for this laptop lol [00:43] Sounds like a good deal. Did the Server CD burn OK? Are you installing on the old Celeron PC now?? :) [00:44] not yet [00:44] server cd is ok , i did cd check in vbox and it passed [00:44] ;) [00:58] How should I mount a drive with an ext3 fs? [00:59] also, why didn't the driver change when I typed fdisk -l? I changed the fs :P [01:10] hmmm just found that ubuntu doesn´t support acl over nfs4... :( [01:23] If I change the fs of the entire harddrive instead of one partition will anything bad happen? :P and also, how do I repartition it with just a single partition. [01:23] mat1211: hard drives normally do not have filesystems directly, only on their partitions. [01:24] e.g. /dev/sda is not normally a filesystem [01:24] how do I partition a harddrive then? [01:24] Ubuntu will happily put a filesystem on sda and mount it, but other OSes might balk [01:25] As I said yesterday, you can partition a drive using gparted, cfdisk, parted, sfdisk, or some other partitioning tool [01:25] cause I reformated a harddrive with ext3, but when I type fdisk -l it still says fat, I was thinking of just making one partition that is the full drive. [01:25] in terminal as well? [01:25] fdisk reports what is in the partition table, which might be lies [01:26] cause this thing has no screen or anything laugh [01:26] Try using cfdisk to change the partition's type to 82 (ext) [01:26] so I won't be able to do any gui things [01:27] Don't use fdisk unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing, it is for experts. Prefer cfdisk. [01:27] fdisk will happily make partitions that other OSes won't like [01:28] what is the syntax for cfdisk, it said couldn't open drive when I typed it. [01:28] sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb [01:28] Manipulating disks at a low level requies root access (or, possibly, to be in the "disk" group). [01:29] hmmm [01:29] how would I go about deleting a partition? it still says sdb1 is there, but I'm sure I deleted it with mkfs. [01:30] mkfs cannot delete or create partitions. [01:30] mkfs only changes what filesystem is on a partition. [01:31] To delete a partition you would open the disk's partition table with cfdisk /dev/sdb, then select tha appropriate partition and choose "delete" [01:31] strange, when I type stuff it still says sdb1 is still there, but at the same time when I enter commands having to do with it, it doesn't exist. [01:31] You then need to write the partition table by choosing "write" [01:31] hold on, I'll try something. [01:32] A partition "exists" according to the kernel if it is listed in /proc/partitions. There may or may not be a device node for it in /dev, which is a separate issue. Both SHOULD be updated automatically on a modern system such as 8.04. [01:33] it didn't work, lol [01:33] is there a way to force it to update these things? [01:34] because in things such as fdisk -l and cfdisk, I see that a partition is listed, but when I try and interact with them, nothing. [01:35] ah, there we go [01:35] partprobe [01:36] reloads partition table in kernel [01:36] with parted is possible too, and with echo something > /proc/..... don't recall the rest.. [01:49] ah, also, how do I change the extention of a file? I have an incomplete rar archive, and the extention is .rar.filepart. How do I remove the .filepart? [01:51] mat1211: you just rename the file... but since it's incomplete, that's not likely to be of much benefit. [01:51] it still works. [01:52] do I just type sudo rename to do that? lol [01:52] if you're using a shell, you just use the mv command that usually moves files. [01:52] but if you move it to the same place with a different name... it works as rename. [01:52] mv oldname.txt newname.txt [01:52] you may or may not need to use sudo depending on the read/write permissions [01:55] ah, that's different, but thank you. [01:56] it's slightly counterintuitive but one gets used to these things :) [01:59] PhotoJim: I still wonder why there isnt a seperate "ren" command ._. [02:00] What would that do that mv doesn't? [02:00] be not counter-intuitive? [02:01] Iceman_B|SSH: you could just make a softlink called "ren" and link it to "mv" :) [02:02] softlink? right... strange. [02:02] lol [02:03] lol, I hadnt thought about that [02:04] how would you set that up? [02:04] so would that be "touch red" and then make a symlink from ren to mv ? [02:04] *ren [02:04] i'd like to set /etc/ssh/ssh_config to the default. where can i find the default file? [02:05] Iceman_B|SSH: no, you don't "touch" it first. that creates an empty traditional file. symlinks are a different type of file that work basically like a pointer to another file. [02:08] I see. so there is no need to create an empty file, just, directly create the link itself ? [02:08] Yes [02:08] man ln for details. [02:08] Correct. [02:09] what is the dir for the mv command, and how would it be a file? [02:09] "whereis mv" will tell you. [02:09] I'm not sure how to answer the second half of your question. [02:09] which mv works too [02:10] wow. I didnt know about whereis, I always try find and locate [02:10] but I cant get them to work the way I want to [02:11] yeah, find and locate are kind of Big Hammers for a small thing like finding binaries [02:12] zul: Did we make libmysqlclient-dev go NBS on purpose. It has a lot of reverse build-deps: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libmysqlclient-dev [02:12] There *is* a rename(1) command, intended to do pattern-based bulk renaming. [02:12] e.g. instead of for i in ?.jpg; do mv $i 0$i.jpg; done [02:12] so there is. [02:13] I haven't actually used it myself because I'm pretty proficient at sh. [02:33] well vmware is about 800 times easier to install than kvm/vmbuilder :) [02:34] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server/AMD64 [03:06] I don't know about vmbuilder, but kvm is MUCH easier to install than vmware-server. [03:07] For one thing, to install vmware-server properly you need to install vmware-package from Debian, download the source tarball, turn it into a deb, install gdebi, then install the vmware-server .deb. [03:07] And even then, you need to manually monitor vmware's website to detect new security and feature releases, and go through the same process for those. [03:07] ...whereas kvm is a normal apt-gettable package. [03:08] There's also the problem that vmware-server packages are illegal to redistribute and need to be "activated" with a gratis serial code, and aren't subject to the same Debian Policy requirements as official packages, nor can bugs be reported using reportbug(1). [03:10] Oh, and vmware-package doesn't support vmware-server 2.x yet. [04:02] what is kvm? [04:04] kvm is a virtual machine environment, so you can run multiple virtual computers on one physical machine. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [04:05] BTW, a google search for ubuntu kvm should have found you that kind of info? [04:05] Once the province of Big Iron, now you can get it on a $300 laptop... [04:06] jmarsden: in #emacs our bot is actually trained to respond to "what is ?" the same way as "!" :-) [04:06] twb: Nice... can you program the bot here to do the same? [04:06] Sorry, I know nothing about your bots. [04:06] !kvm [04:06] kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [04:06] Emacs' fsbot is written in elisp, so you can't just copy its code. [04:07] dug_: Yes... is there a way to get a list of all the ! commands the bot recognizes? !dictionary or something?? [04:08] not sure [04:08] For cases where you really only want a virtualized filesystem, process tree and network stack, how does kvm weigh up against openvz or xen? [04:08] jmarsden: usually there's a webpage [04:08] !bot [04:08] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-server's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [07:49] hi folks [07:49] I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying to set up a home DNS server using BIND9 and its giving me grief, can anyone help ? [07:53] it's probably something really obvious but since I dont seem to get any error its hard to troubleshoot [07:55] i think i've just screwed up the config files so much that I can't get them working again, heres the output from /var/log [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: starting BIND 9.5.0-P2 -u bind [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: found 2 CPUs, using 2 worker threads [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:12: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:20: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:25: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:30: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:35: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf.local:9: unknown option 'zone' [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: /etc/bind/named.conf:41: '}' expected near end of file [07:55] gah. dont flood here [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: loading configuration: unexpected token [07:55] Apr 5 16:52:13 ubuntu named[4480]: exiting (due to fatal error) [07:55] !paste [07:55] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [07:55] sorry, didn't know it would split it into multiple messages [07:55] Doble, ^^ [07:56] here's the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/144687/ [07:59] ubottu doesn't auto-kick flooders? [07:59] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:09] sorry for the spam before - I'll start again, im trying to configure bind9 and i think i've messed up the config files but I don't know how to fix them, and now bind fails to start - my config files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144690/ and error log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144687/ [08:22] Hello [08:22] How do I install an IRC server on my Ubuntu Server (It's currently running a LAMP server) [08:23] ?? [08:23] Is anyone there? [08:24] ow do I install an IRC server on my Ubuntu Server (It's currently running a LAMP server)H [08:24] *How [08:24] *server) [08:25] mrout: if somebody knows, they'll answer; don't keep repeating the question [08:25] Sorry [08:25] It's just that a new person came along. [08:25] got google? [08:26] Yes... [08:26] lol [08:27] oh, I see what you mean. (I'm a bit slow) [08:28] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+irc+server&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= [08:28] Thank you. [08:28] or try wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRCd [08:28] ty [08:43] hi can anyone assist with getting postfix configured with gmail ? [10:32] hello, is there a content/web filtering application that's not working as a proxy? [10:48] what's the problem with a proxy aurax ? [10:53] i have 8 adsl lines and 5 vlans [10:53] managing proxy with multiple networks and routings seems really difficult [10:57] i mean ,proxy will kill my routing table [12:05] hi can anyone assist with open ssl confi am getting an error and i think it is down to the location of my /demoCA/private/cakey.pem [14:07] any suggestions on how to install a quicker (and i guess, less random) psuedo random number generator? /dev/urandom's too slow :/ [14:35] Hamzifer: /dev/urandom is the fast one [14:35] Hamzifer: why don't you just cache something from /dev/random? [14:36] well, before we go /dev/random ... we should know the application [14:37] attempting to fill a disk with random data [14:37] why? [14:39] ..because i am [14:40] you've probably been mislead about the efficacy of random data for securely wiping drives [14:40] it's entirely unnecessary [14:41] nm, google to the rescue, dd if=/dev/zero | gpg --symmetric --passphrase `dd if=/dev/urandom bs=4 count=8 2>&1 | sha256sum | head -c 64` - > target [14:42] oh god ... [14:42] produces random data at around 23mb/sec, compared to /dev/urandom/s 1.8mb/sec [14:42] incase anyone else is interested [14:45] although if anyone has any idea how to configure a "less random" prng, e.g. /dev/prandom, that would be useful to know, google's not being too helpful there :/ [14:46] I suggest you save yourself a lot of time in the long run and read up on why Guttman's hypothesis -- which your desire to use random data is no-doubt based on, are false [14:46] s/are/is/ [14:47] Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when your concerns are relevant to my situation. Thanks for all the help [14:47] haha [14:47] they're concerned with any situation involving wiping drives [14:47] where you don't enjoy wearing tinfoil hats [14:48] Indeed, and when I'm wiping a drive, I'll keep that in mind. [14:48] attempting to fill a disk with random data [14:48] what are you doing then? [14:49] A quick google for "Guttman's hypothesis", however, leads to mostly books.google.com results about psychology. Got any useful links? [14:49] Not wiping a drive :) [14:50] filling a disk for encryption i suppose then [14:50] for encryption? maybe to hide an encrypted partition [14:50] but, there's no need other than that that I can think of [14:51] Hamzifer: it was my bad spelling -- Gutmann is correct [14:51] paper: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html [14:52] his "research" is the basis for the modern recommendation of using multiple passes of random, and non-random data [14:56] Good to know I've not been doing it wrong then! [14:56] what have you been doing? [14:57] only thing i can think of is that if you can guess the plaintext pattern on the disk to be something standard like null you learn a bit more [14:58] I've been trying to stay relevant to my original question, which was trying to get a faster psuedo random number/noise generator going! :) [14:58] well we want to know why! :) [14:58] I'm afraid if I told you, I would have to kill you! ;) [14:59] prepare the tinfoil hats, folks! [14:59] * acicula goes off to dust the thumbscrews [15:27] my machine rebooted expectedly when I was asleep, where can I look to find out what happened around and up till that point? [15:27] *unexpectedly [15:30] Iceman_B^Ltop: poke around /var/log. dmesg and daemon.log might have useful info, or syslog. [15:30] can anyone help with the openssl error in ubuntu /demoCA/serial: No such file or directory [15:32] PhotoJim: im looking at syslog. when I count back from the current uptime, I find this line "Apr 5 14:53:49 Rin-chan syslogd 1.5.0#2ubuntu6: restart." [15:32] Iceman_B^Ltop: hmm. [15:32] JessicaParker: what's the context of the error? what were you doing when you received it? [15:34] PhotoJim: and I'm getting a lot of these: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/144935/ [15:36] giovani: http://www.marksanborn.net/linux/send-mail-postfix-through-gmails-smtp-on-a-ubuntu-lts-server/ ultimate goal gmail smtp [15:36] wtf [15:36] why do you need a CA to talk to gmail [15:36] giovani: this is the command line that i get the isue from openssl ca -out FOO-cert.pem -infiles FOO-req.pem [15:36] that's absurd [15:37] Iceman_B^Ltop: I'm sorry, I have no idea what that is about. the libpolkit stuff looks more worrisome than the sigfile stuff. the rest of it is innocuous. [15:37] giovani: i think you cant use port 25 and need to use 587 and requires a certificate [15:37] yes ... but you don't need your own CA [15:38] postfix ships with unsigned certs [15:38] PhotoJim: perhaps http://www.bergek.com/2008/11/24/ubuntu-810-libpolkit-error/ [15:38] this is why these howto guides are worthless [15:38] giovani: i not all to familiar with this.......but looking around it looks like you need to create a self signed certificate to use gmail smtp service... [15:38] Iceman_B^Ltop: good catch. sounds like that's the thing to try. [15:39] giovani: i dont think there are any how to guides for postfix gmail without the self signed certificate not sure though [15:44] PhotoJim: apaprantly there is a bug filed for it, I'm looking at the page right now but, I really have no clue beyond that. It doesnt seem like a policy kit will breach my server [15:45] Iceman_B^Ltop: one wouldn't think so. [15:49] any one any ideas on this ? i dont need a self signed certificate ? [16:01] oh wow, setting the TCP_NODELAY option in samba just doubled my speed [16:02] I'm getting around 5-6 MB/s over LAN now [16:03] but that was from server to this XP laptop. the other way around is still slow, around 2.8 MB/s [16:49] hi guys, which logs should I be looking in if I want to see what my system is doing when trying to recognise a usb device that's been attached? [16:50] chris_d_adams: /var/log/dmesg [16:59] giovani: hmm... I'm getting no sign at all when i plug something in there. is there another way to probe in more detail? [16:59] ah [16:59] syslog shows something [16:59] never mind [16:59] I'm good here === dug_1 is now known as dug_ [17:11] New bug: #355709 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355709 [17:33] chris_d_adams: dmesg is the kernel log ... when you plug in a device, it should show up there [17:35] I'm trying to use the following in a incrontab /media/external IN_CREATE IN_MODIFY clamscan -av $@/$# [17:35] and it doesn't appear to run in htop [17:37] I want it to clamdscan the file that was either created or modified [17:40] well, it may be a non-issue, but I believe IN_CREATE and IN_MODIFY are supposed to be comma separated [17:40] yah I made that change... [17:40] alright, well we can only go off of what you paste here [17:40] nod [17:41] it currently reads /media/external IN_CREATE,IN_MODIFY clamscan -av $@/$# [17:42] is there anyway to monitor whether it ran or not? I looked in /var/log/clamav but I didn't see anything [17:42] you try using a different command than clamscan ... to rule it out as a cause? [17:42] I don't think it logs to /var/log unless you're running the daemon [17:43] well I'm running the clamd [17:43] ok? [17:43] and you reloaded the table, right? [17:44] try something like ... /media/external IN_CREATE,IN_MODIFY touch /testfile [17:44] and then use /testfile's access time to establish the last time it ran [18:47] what's a good FTP server ? [18:48] vsftpd [18:50] so that "sudo aptitude install vsftpd" [18:50] I thought an FTPd was installed during server installation.... [18:59] Iceman_B|SSH: no, and it shouldn't be -- very few people need ftp daemons on each server ... it increases default security holes, and bloats the install [19:02] good point [19:02] Iceman_B|SSH: scp is a lot more secure, and safer. winscp is a good client for Windows users. [19:03] sftp :-) [19:03] Iceman_B|SSH: and if you have sshd enabled, you don't have to do anything to turn it on. [19:05] ah, right, I had forgotten about that [19:07] heh [19:07] yeah, ftp = bad [19:08] only use it if you have general users who aren't capable of using scp [19:11] well the thing is, I have my server thats on a 10/1 ADSL line, its download a certain torrent at almost the max speed. My desktop at another location is on a 120/10 cable line [19:11] the same torrent there goes as a snail pace [19:11] so I want to download the files here on my server and then transfer them back, but its 29 GB and 2100 files [19:11] traffic shaping. [19:12] yeah, probbaly. Ive been following forums byt of course, the ISP denies all claims [19:12] there are ways of testing it. [19:12] *but [19:13] im already running at high ports and encrytion on, on the cable pc [19:13] *port [19:15] scp is the easiest (IMHO), best way to move the files, short of having a VPN connection so that you can mount nfs shares from your server onto your remote desktop. [19:15] the latter is harder to set up, but easier to use. [19:18] scp will add overhead, though [19:19] especially if it's a really light cpu [19:19] that's true. [19:19] i.e. celerons can choke under huge scp moves [19:19] but by "light" we're talking pre-PIII probably right? [19:19] celerons are like Pentium 2s :) [19:19] at 10x the cost [19:20] my PII-333 (about-to-be-retired server) was ok on scp. Linux is pretty efficient. [19:20] I'm guessing it's the cache issue if the Celeron sucks so much. [19:20] possibly ... there are many factors [19:20] it depends on what kinds of speeds you're expecting [19:21] if you have a celeron sitting on a 100Mbps line ... and you're trying to max that out over scp ... good luck [19:22] my broadband is a tiny fraction of that, but I could run some experiments over the lan to see. [19:23] yeah, I'm rarely scping up from my home [19:23] my C2D maxes out at 2.2Mb/s iirc when i use the 100Mbit connection. admitedly it's not a very fast proc [19:23] 2.2Mbps or 2.2MBps? [19:23] they're wildly different [19:23] MB [19:23] the byte version [19:23] yeah, careful of writing that [19:23] hehe [19:23] Mb is Megabit [19:23] the machine I'm on right now is an Atom N270 so I'm not sure it would be that great of a test platform :) [19:23] i alwas keep confusing them [19:24] little b ... means smaller measure [19:24] bigger B means bigger measure [19:24] easy enough [19:24] i shall never forget again [19:24] :) [19:25] so the 2.2MBps test was over scp, or something else? [19:25] * acicula scratches memory [19:25] scp or sftp, dont think they are treated very differently [19:25] the one that gives you the ascii completion bar and a speed reading anyway [19:26] MB/s :-) [19:26] it's been awhile since i last copied from my desktop [19:26] acicula: they're protocols [19:26] not clients [19:26] it decided life just wasnt worth living, and that i did not need the machine [19:26] or the disk :/ [19:27] giovani: also both clients, though i wouldnt know if they use different procol messges under the hood [19:27] yes, to declare that the C2D was the bottleneck ... you'd need to actually look at the server load [19:28] giovani: well i didnt do extensive benchmarking , the machine has a disk quite capable of sustaining well over 2MB/s nor is it short on memory, switched 100Mbit local lan [19:28] yeah, but those are guesses [19:28] maybe that section of your disk was heavily fragmented [19:28] who knows [19:28] so, testing the actual system during the transfer is the only way to isolate the bottleneck, unlikely to be the cpu [19:29] actually [19:29] my desktop broke before i got the lappy, so must've been my old one :/, so the metrics i just gave are useless [19:29] doh [19:32] I'm going to try an scp from my dual 1 GHz PIII server to my Atom N270 netbook for giggles [19:32] 50.9 MB/s to create, not terrible. :) [19:33] to create? [19:33] Yep. [19:33] what does "to create" mean? [19:33] -c blowfish [19:33] I use blowfish by default. [19:33] :-/ [19:33] PhotoJim, what machine is that N270 running in ? [19:33] why the preference for blowfish? [19:34] Acer Aspire One. [19:34] It seems to be one of the most efficient encryption algorithms ssh supports. [19:34] likeable little machine? [19:34] im looking for a netbook to buym, not too long fro mnow [19:34] hp mini 2140 or dell mini 10 are the only netbooks I'd consider at this point [19:34] have my eye on a NC10 [19:35] Just over 11 MB/s to read it over the LAN [19:35] heh, you're using these odd terms [19:35] "read" what? [19:35] well... I wrote the file on the server [19:35] now I'm reading it and copying it to the netbook [19:36] the netbook can write it far faster than that rate, so the read speed is the issue here [19:36] well you didn't just get 50MBps over a 100Mbps LAN [19:36] that was a false metric if you did [19:36] no, that was local [19:36] I didn't say that was the scp speed [19:36] that was the file creation speed locally [19:37] also not sure how you achieved 11MBps over the lan [19:37] unless this is gigabit [19:37] 11.1 MB/s, not mb [19:37] MB [19:37]