[01:01] hey folks [01:01] can I apply different wallpapers per desktop... kde 4.2.2. [01:33] nixternal: nice dog [01:33] what do they taste like? [02:07] So now what distro do I run? [02:07] suse [02:07] Been there. Done that. Don't want to do it again. [02:07] fedora? [02:08] Jaunty is pretty much a fail for me due to Intel suckage. [02:08] Kubuntu is a bit too cutting edge for me, so definitely not Fedora. [02:08] KDE 4.2 is going to Debian Unstable tomorrow. [02:09] hmm [02:09] Which means it ought to be backportable to Lenny within the next several weeks. [02:10] kde svn 949828 [02:10] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=949828&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 949828 | Move the weather wallpaper over to kdeplasma-addons [02:10] \o/ [02:10] Congratulations. [02:10] congrats :) [02:10] ^_^ [02:11] exa is slow and full of redraw artifacts - basically unusable. [02:11] I just single-handedly increased the tarball size by 13 MB, dunno how well that will fly with some peeps :P [02:11] uxa is fast but falls over dies on a regular basis - basically unsuable. [02:12] vorian: double-wide hi-res wallpapers are probably out the window by default, but I do plan on implementing user-defined wallpapers [02:12] My intel 4965 wirelss sucked on Intrepid. [02:12] KDE4 or Qt4 graphics are bad on Intel, do you think that UXA will fix this? [02:13] UXA works great for me, but is crashy. [02:13] It varies a lot. [02:13] EagleScreen: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting [02:13] ScottK: I read about Chakra on planet.ubuntu, the author was excited [02:13] JontheEchidna: congrats [02:14] neversfelde: Yes. I read that. I want a distro for both my servers and my desktop though. I don't want to have to deal with two. [02:14] ScottK: mhh, I use ubuntu, even on my server [02:14] Yes. Me too. [02:15] But switching to Chakra is out. [02:15] hehe, I will test it in a vm, but I think it is not as good as the blog post suggest [02:17] That's usually the case. [02:19] * neversfelde has to work, 2h of sleep is no enough :( [02:22] I mena fixing this kind of issues: http://imagebin.ca/view/wRBdqW.html [02:22] *mean [02:23] it has nothing to see with composite or kwin effects [02:23] and these kind of graphic issues are not present under Gnome/gtk [02:25] Dunno. Mine doesn't look like that. I'd suggest try it. [02:33] Any ideas why my phosphor xscreensaver eventually turns into a blank black screen after running for a while? [02:35] ^^this is under Intrepid, on multiple video chips [02:39] my Kubuntu 9.04 hangs very often [02:39] i dont know if it is an ext4 problem or X problem [02:39] it just has hanged, and Xorg.0.log.old is empty [02:46] what version of kde will be shipped in jaunty? [02:46] jjesse: 4.2.2 [02:46] It's there now. [02:48] ScottK: thanks [02:48] YW [02:57] hi folks, anyone happen to know if an ubuntu package has been built anywhere for the kde 4 version of konversation svn? [03:01] joshjtl: there isn't one afaik [03:01] not but is not very diffucult to compile and install it from the svn sources [03:02] EagleScreen: i'm trying to find it for svn can you help [03:03] yes, aks for it in #konversation [03:03] k [03:11] nixternal : Bug 355975 [03:11] Launchpad bug 355975 in kubuntu-docs "section network; string 71" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355975 [03:13] kubuntu-docs should be worked all over - it has an old stage of default-apps and procedures [03:14] I forgot, can anyone remind me how to checkout something with svn ? [03:14] nm got it [03:37] is ther a reason that we don't add standard applications ot the dictionary? [03:38] so things like amarok, konqueror, etc don't highlight in firefox, openoffice etc? === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [04:41] rgreening: When you added a build-dep on phonon in qt4-x11 4.5~rc1-0ubuntu1 you made a circular build-dep between qt4 and phonon. We either have to get rid of it or hppa needs manual bootstrapping to build qt4. [04:41] rgreening: Suggestions? [04:58] ScottK: which change? I do not believe I added anything for phonon, though Riddell did make some changes [04:58] * Build with -phonon and -no-phonon-backend [04:58] - add rule to remove built phonon and use system phonon [04:58] * Build with -phonon and -no-phonon-backend [04:58] - add rule to remove built phonon and use system phonon [04:58] ScottK: my build followed debians (from Fabo) [04:58] But only once. [04:58] OK, so Riddell added that? [04:59] Riddell did that [04:59] Riddell: ^^^ is for you then.... [04:59] yep :) [05:00] I wish we'd use the Qt phonon and be done with it [05:05] * ScottK is busy retrying all of KDE on ia64 because slangasek fixed qt4-x11 there. [06:06] * nixternal wonders when we will get a python upload that won't break stuff [06:24] nixternal: Where is the excitement in that? === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo [09:37] anyone willing to buy me a new computer? [09:38] * Tm_T is getting frustrated, 3 weeks struggling with broken hardware [09:49] Tm_T: I have a box you can have if you come to get it. its a bit noisy, only the box, AMD 2600, if it helps. [09:51] jussi01: hmmmm, supports 2 GiB ram and SATA disks? [09:51] Tm_T: 2gb ram yes, not sure about sata. it has 1 gb in it currently [09:52] I need SATA support, I afraid [09:52] Tm_T: you can buy a sata card cheaply ;) but I think it does, just not certain [09:53] jussi01: I know, but I have 0-budget, literally [09:53] until we get our communitycompany up and running [09:54] Tm_T: yeah, I know. Ill check the sata support tonite. [09:54] Tm_T: why is sata so important? [09:54] I have bought a SATA disk, and I would rather keep using it for storage, instead of my broken PATA disks [09:56] kinda mess, I know [09:56] heh [09:57] got some income last time in first days of January [09:57] so I'm in kinda trouble now [10:00] but now -> [10:05] start a dolphin [10:05] right-click its window title [10:05] does the popup menu have shadow? [10:05] for me, most times it doesn't. [10:21] ScottK: the qt/phonon circular dependency is pretty ugly indeed [10:21] is can probably be turned off in qt for hppa only comparatavely easy [10:23] infact just changing the build-dep to have libphonon-dev [!hppa] should do it [10:24] I made that up though, probably not valid, probably needs libphonon-dev [i386 amd64 foo bar] [11:24] apachelogger: hi ... have you had time to have a look at the improved kde-locale patch? [11:24] looks good [11:24] I think [11:30] a|wen: oh, you probably should incorporate agateau's simplified sed regex [11:30] apachelogger: and where is that? [11:31] mailing list [11:33] Nightrose: re neon + global shortcuts: global shortcuts are controlled by kded (or rather it's shortcut module), so either amarok-nighlty can't attach to your session's kded, or there is some compability issue making the global shortcuts unusable if $app is compiled against kde 4.3 but run within a <.3 session [11:33] apachelogger: ah ok [11:34] didn't get any updates for neon since over 2 weeks now :( [11:34] well [11:34] you people decided to split the darn source into 5000 pieces [11:35] who did? [11:36] amarok [11:36] apachelogger: what needs doing to get new amarok and kde packages? maybe i can find someone to do them [11:36] package the new amarok dependencies [11:36] and for kde? [11:37] dunno what is wrong there [11:37] what are the new dependencies? [11:37] Riddell: taglib-extras [11:38] Nightrose: was turned off [11:38] and maybe the qtscriptgenerator [11:38] apachelogger: why? ;-) [11:38] maybe for a reason... lets see [11:38] checkOut() started with component: kdesupport [11:40] Nightrose: taglib-extras is in jaunty, it can probably be backported [11:40] apachelogger: ^ [11:40] in this case I need someone to do a neon backport [11:40] vorian: *poke* ^ [11:40] it is certainly easier to do than a neon backport muahahaha [11:41] JontheEchidna: *poke* ^ [11:41] :) [11:43] apachelogger: updated the regex; try to look in the bzr again [11:44] * apachelogger notes: vista + toshiba is worthless [11:45] the chance that your disk gets blasted is about 70% [11:45] a|wen: did you QA that chance? [11:45] *change even [11:47] apachelogger: it works just as well on all the locales i've tested the other one with [11:48] in this case it looks good, I guess [11:48] * apachelogger is not very sure these days [11:50] apachelogger: okay ... i'm confident that it works (both with the simplified version and the one before) [11:50] \o/ [11:52] * a|wen uploads a new version to k-e [11:53] apachelogger: but i think we want this change in before the RC in any case [11:59] hello, can i ask for help about PyKDE4 programming here? [12:01] reza_: sure [12:03] I'm developing an app using PyKDE4, and i want to display notification like what kopete do when user online. I still donot understand about KNotification and notifyrc file. This is my first time using python and kde programming. Hope somebody can show some clues. [12:04] how do you guys exspect to get kubuntu 9.04 stable in less then 20 days? regressions still are there, caused by not listen to kde! and I cant say its stable if i forget about the regressions, yesterday I had a high load when using kopete, but cant tell which process was it really [12:04] reza_: here's a minimal example http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/notifier/ [12:05] reza_: you need to put notifier.notifyrc in /usr/share/kde4/apps/notifier and killall knotify4 [12:05] Also I see translation errors in Kubuntu [12:06] quassel208: let us know when you have something specific to report [12:07] Yeah regressions, freezings, high loads, translation that is missing ect ect, but if I bug that you just ingore thoser bugs as normall [12:08] quassel208: everything you said so far is nothing we can do anything about without knowing what exactly is happening [12:08] for example: which language? [12:08] Thanks, actually i'm following plasma tutorial, from kde website. [12:08] which program freezes? [12:08] when? [12:08] Dutch, kde has it translated [12:08] Lol whole linux freezes [12:08] wait I see the bug report I am active in [12:08] quassel208: what are you doing when it freezes? [12:08] do you use the twitter plasmoid? [12:09] How to put the notifyrc to correct location at installation time? This is related to plasma packaging right? [12:09] jussi01 using kubuntu to chat and surf, sometimes with firefox, somer people though it was firefox, but I already changed the bug to Linux [12:10] Last time it freezed during watching a movie [12:11] quassel208: being very specific is key in bug reporting. so if its freezing when watching a movie, say so. what kind of movie? flash? or? which program were you watching it with? [12:11] I tested it on ext4 and ext3 and I got to freezes on ext3, so that meant it had nothing to do with ext4, and I gues its the kernel [12:12] avi movie, but I dont think it has anything to do with either vlc or firefox, but the Linux kernel [12:12] reza_: here's an example with CMake http://websvn.kde.org:80/trunk/KDE/kdeutils/printer-applet/CMakeLists.txt?revision=917147&view=markup [12:13] install( FILES notifier.notifyrc DESTINATION ${DATA_INSTALL_DIR}/notifer ) [12:13] quassel208: sounds like a problem the kernel team should look into then [12:13] (we don't do kernel stuff here) [12:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/327509 [12:13] Launchpad bug 327509 in linux "Kernel freezing on both ext3 and ext4" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:14] I edited the title from the bug reporter in hope it would get some attention [12:14] Thanks for the help. I will try later at home. [12:14] about the translation problems: can you contact the kde translation team about that? it should be fixed there if the wrong translation is there as well [12:15] Nightrose, I bet Kubuntu messes up the translation, as far as I know kde translation is almost perfect, because ive compiled it myself a few times for kde-nightly [12:15] quassel208: ok then the right team to contact is the dutch translator team in launchpad :) [12:15] quassel208: impossible for us to say unless you tell us where the problem is [12:17] Quassel for example has parts that are not translated [12:17] quassel has its own tranlsator team [12:18] Ow [12:18] quassel208: you are welcome to add translation strings for quassel, we could use all the help we can get on that ;) [12:18] If I know how [12:18] Its not like a .srt files where I just translate the text in a text editor [12:19] * Nightrose has to leave [12:19] cya folks [12:19] later Nightrose [12:20] You know whats funny, my girlfriend is without knowing testing Windows 7 :P [12:20] quassel208: #kubuntu-offtopic is for general chatter :) [12:21] But Ive found few bugs, but I gues they are all ready reported [12:21] Because I dont report that much anymore [12:22] quassel208: there is no harm reporting a bug again, it can easily be marked as a dupe, but if you dont report tem, then maybe we miss some [12:26] back, pc freezed, running firefox to, so maby firefox indeed causes it [12:27] can that happen that pc freezes because a application ? [12:28] quassel208: sometimes. [12:29] jussi01 my pc had no freezes from 10 till 13:28 [12:30] So it happen unexspected, so busy people who only use pc for few hours maby dont get across the problem [12:31] quassel208: most of us in here are on the PC a lot of the day ;) [12:32] Yes but not all users, I have a girl, but the day she has to work, but the bug I am looking at doesnt have a specfic time it happens, it would now be after 3 hours and 30 min [12:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/327509 [12:33] Launchpad bug 327509 in linux "Kernel freezing on both ext3 and ext4" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:34] Big change firefox is indeed the criminal, I mean I never liked firefox [12:37] But kde warned about qt 4.5 and what did kubuntu do include, so gues why there are regressions? [12:39] KDE people also did recommend using Qt 4.5, it just depends on who said what [12:39] one person isn't indicative of all of KDE's wishes [12:39] most of the issues being seen are due to sucky drivers [12:40] So the regressions here to? Why just dont use drivers from 8.04 ? [12:40] It's not as simple as that [12:41] I guesed that, because drivers are in the kernel ? [12:41] And if I use a kernel from 8.04 then i lose ext4 [13:24] smarter: bespin needs a change in package name [13:29] apachelogger: right [13:30] will do that for karmic [13:32] Riddell: I'm heading out of town today, so I'm certainly not going to have time to deal with the phonon/qt circular build-dep before I go. [13:46] how long until final freeze? [14:10] ~google jaunty release schedule [14:10] Results for jaunty release schedule: 1. Jaunty Release Schedule, Plans, KDE 4.2: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098988.0 | 4. Jaunty Release Schedule Announced « A Conservative Techie: http://jjesse.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/jaunty-release-schedule-announced/ | 5. Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope Release Schedule: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Jackalope_Release_Schedule [14:10] really, I would have expected ubuntu wiki [14:11] JontheEchidna: april 23 === rraphink is now known as raphink [14:24] does the neon project still get updated? i havent noticed a -nightly update for a while (but i could have also just missed it) [14:25] I've seen their builds go by on the buildd status page, but it may have just been amarok. [14:27] hmm [14:33] seele: it's in backlog, amarok build-deps have changed and neon hasn't caught up, probably the same for KDE [14:33] Riddell: ok thanks [14:34] i'm just wondering how to get the latest amarok for usability testing next week without having to compile anything [14:35] seele: Just slap apachelogger until he makes it for you. [14:35] * seele pokes apachelogger [14:36] hugs may work better :) [14:38] So QtCurve just got options to use the KDE button order in firefox dialogs: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QtCurve+%28KDE4%2C+KDE3%2C+%26+Gtk2+Theme%29?content=40492 [14:38] it modifies userChrome.css, so I dunno if we want to compile with that option or not [14:39] (it's off by default) [14:39] what's userChrome.css? [14:39] it's a config file in ~/.mozilla [14:39] JontheEchidna: plasma-widget-quickaccess has no Message.sh file [14:39] Riddell: doh [14:40] I can fix that [14:40] I should also get it in a VCS while I'm at it [14:40] JontheEchidna: if it edits userChrome.css will that mess things up when people change back to gnome? [14:41] That I do not know. I would be under the opinion that it would probably be something best left for Karmic [14:41] so that we can test it properly [14:42] yes, let's do that [14:42] bug 356247, if you want to sponsor the kde half (still working on the gtk half) [14:42] Launchpad bug 356247 in kde-style-qtcurve "New upstream bugfix release (QtCurve 0.62.7)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356247 [14:46] JontheEchidna: feature freeze is april 9th btw [14:46] sry final freeze :) [14:46] thx [14:47] I better get my kdebase-workspace changes in soon, then [14:48] JontheEchidna: did you have a look at the proposed fix for bug 224461 (also kdebase workspace ;) ) [14:48] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/224461/+text) [14:49] LP is being slooow [14:49] oh yes ... don't even try to open bugs with too many tasks [14:49] I haven't had a look at it, no [14:50] JontheEchidna: there is a fix in bzr (that i'm confident with) and uploaded as a test-package to the k-e ppa [14:51] cool [14:51] I'll add my fixes later today and then we can see about getting sponsored [14:52] be back in half an hour or so [14:52] JontheEchidna: cool [14:53] solid predicate is killing me [14:53] either that thing is incredibly buggy or incredibly stupid [14:54] anyone planning to upload arora 0.6? [14:54] (with maybe a patch to make it fallback to qtcurve instead of plastique when oxygen is the default time) [14:54] how about we remove the fallback [14:55] an application should have no whatsoever right to use another style than the one I set [14:55] well, arora does look pretty bad in oxygen [14:56] arora looks ok here [14:56] "ok", but not really perfect :) [14:56] so it should tell me to switch style or offer me a setting to do it for arora-only [14:56] that seems reasonable [14:56] not just override my settings for the sake of devs being able to mark a bug as fixed, while it is just overriden [14:57] they do it for KDE 4.2-only afaik [14:57] well, anything < 4.2.60 I'd assume [14:58] X-KDE-Solid-Predicate=[[ StorageVolume.ignored == false AND OpticalDisc.discType == 'CdRom' ] OR [ StorageVolume.ignored == false AND OpticalDisc.discType == 'CdRecordable' ] OR [ StorageVolume.ignored == false AND OpticalDisc.discType == 'CdRewritable' ]] [14:58] seriously, however wrote the new device notifier thingy that parses that stuff must have been on all sorts of drugs [14:58] seele: first someone needs to backport the appropriate deps [14:59] though [14:59] actually [14:59] Nightrose: pling [15:00] JontheEchidna: qtcurve uploaded [15:02] Riddell: fix for bug 353678 is in bzr if you have time to take a look at it some time [15:02] Launchpad bug 353678 in kdebase "Konqueror does not appear as a choice in update-alternatives" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353678 [15:04] a|wen: excellent [15:04] a|wen: when using debcommit it will automagically link the branch to this bug for reference [15:04] apachelogger: is debcommit a bzr command? [15:05] no, it's a script supporting multiple RCS [15:05] has loads of useful stuff [15:05] IMHO debcommit should be the default tool of choice for any commit to our branches [15:05] i-don't-care-what-revision-control-system-this-is-just-do-the-right-thing [15:06] looks cool, thx for the hint apachelogger ... never heard of it before though [15:07] a|wen: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-cd-copy.desktop and http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-dvd-copy.desktop [15:07] I am rewriting the k3b actions for kde4 right now [15:07] needs testing though [15:08] hm [15:09] I think the file names should be different [15:09] do we have a list of "must fix" bugs anywhere? [15:09] k3b-copy-cd and k3b-copy-dvd [15:10] apachelogger: cool ... it should offer you to copy a cd/dvd i presume [15:11] aye [15:11] apachelogger: do we have actions when popping in an empty cd/dvd? [15:11] not yet [15:11] working on it [15:11] I am not sure the actual predicate stuff gets exposed properly [15:11] a|wen: also, please get the Name values from http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-rip-audiocd.desktop [15:12] otherwise the non-translated state would be a regression ;-) [15:12] a|wen and apachelogger: any ETA on bug #224461 [15:12] Launchpad bug 224461 in kdebase-workspace "Date, Time, Currency ... not in locale format" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224461 [15:12] apachelogger: will do [15:13] a|wen: alternates change looks good, I'll upload [15:13] nixternal: soon ... please give the kdebase-workspace/jaunty in the kubuntu-experimental ppa a test [15:13] Riddell: thx! [15:14] nixternal: JontheEchidna had some changes to kdebase-workspace as well; so he would merge in so we could do an upload [15:15] Tonio_: any status on bug #312569 [15:15] Launchpad bug 312569 in kdesudo "Unable to make any changes in Date / Time kcontrol" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/312569 [15:15] am i the only one to get "no metakit backend" error when starting akregator? [15:16] hm [15:16] a|wen: I am not sure that copy stuff is working in all cases [15:16] not bad, we only have 2 *critical* bugs right now, and personally, I don't think either qualify as critical anyways [15:17] apachelogger: as long as it doesn't pop up in the wrong cases... [15:18] nixternal: the first one is the ultimate my-desktop-is-not-localized bug and the second is a jolly good reason to flame kubuntu and their stupid sudo stuff [15:18] + the latter is a regression anyway [15:18] apachelogger: actually both are a part of the flame kubuntu stuff :) [15:19] i have read so much bullshit the past few days [15:19] latter is more so, as the other bug is really an upstream problem ;-) [15:19] a|wen: well, it might just not show up in some cases [15:19] a|wen: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/145450/ [15:19] /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup: 47: Syntax error: ";;" unexpected (expecting "fi") [15:19] wtf isn't testing their packages? [15:19] jep [15:19] a|wen: aparently there can be multiple disctypes and contents per disc [15:20] nixternal: My biggest problem is buggy Intel video. I probably won't keep Jaunty for long. [15:20] ScottK: I have Intel and have not experienced any issues with it [15:20] a|wen: though it also appears that solids is not smart enough that an content == "videodvd" would also apply to "data|videodvd" [15:20] ScottK: you're not alone... buggy open source ati drivers as well [15:20] maybe just some funky rendering in kontact only [15:20] nixternal: Then you're lucky. [15:21] agateau: works for me [15:21] ya, I must be, because I keep reading about "buggy intel" in jaunty [15:21] apachelogger: oh my; that does really not sound like fun to work with [15:21] Works here too. [15:22] take a look at the predicate syntax of the dvd copy file [15:22] a|wen: sensible structure woudl be something like [ ignored == false AND disctype = 'dvdrom|dvdram|dvdrecordable|...' [15:22] * JontheEchidna is back [15:23] instead you have to compose a monster line which is super redundant with itself anyway [15:23] meh [15:23] nixternal: FYI that broken package is maintained by coredevs... [15:23] apachelogger: and you can't switch around the or/and [15:23] nixternal: kinda make it more worrysome [15:23] Riddell: works fine on a fresh account, must have mixed something in my conf files. Nevermind. [15:23] a|wen: indeed ... OpticalDisc.availableContent == 'Data|VideoDvd' is true for the paste data, while OpticalDisc.availableContent == 'VideoDvd' is not [15:23] Tm_T: definitely [15:24] a|wen: so either that has to be read as content is data, subtype videodvd, which is not really how it is formatted in the api docs or this is just all screwed up [15:24] a|wen: no, it only works with [ X AND Y ] OR [ X1 AND Y2] ... [15:25] although, it improved, first when I created the dragonplayer action it only allowed the above version [15:25] and only that [15:25] 2 ands combined by one or [15:25] no more no less [15:26] apachelogger: that really sounds like a very stupid construction; and total bloat to need to write it like that [15:26] Riddell: the gtk half is done, bug 356247 [15:26] on to quickaccess [15:26] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/356247/+text) [15:26] a|wen: thing is, I am not even sure what part of KDE actually uses those files [15:26] * a|wen goes hunting for coffee ... back in half an hour or so [15:27] a|wen: the multiple-options dialog is certainly not created by the device notifier, but still the latter somehow knows how many options there are, so I'd guess on libsolid [15:27] then again solid is usually of higher quality than that ;-) [15:38] plasma/dataengines/hotplug/ and solid are working together it seems [15:39] bleh [15:40] a|wen: can't make it handle empty cd/dvd properly, I'd at least need to check for ignored? AND blank? AND disctype? [15:40] that crashes plasma/the dataengine/libsolid though [15:41] and an "[x and y ] and [x and z]" does not work :S [15:42] apachelogger: sounds like someone really needs to rethink that one for 4.3 ... or at least broaden the options a little [15:42] I think it is [15:42] AFAIK 4.3 exposes a KCM to easily add/edit those actions [15:42] :) [15:42] so I would think all cases of composited predicate are supported [15:43] otherwise it would be quite weird ;-) [15:43] or just easy to crash your own machine [15:43] aye ;-) [15:43] anyway, I wanted to do something completely different before I ended up with solid again [15:44] something that actually works :D [15:44] make ISOs burnable \o/ [15:44] which btw, gets referenced to in some official how-to-get-kubuntu-on-a-blank-cd-guide [15:46] the burning part works ... you just need to figure out that you need k3b for it [15:49] well, the how-to tells you to use contextmenu -> actions -> write with k3b [15:49] but not having that option at all in there could be kinda confusing [15:49] JontheEchidna: gtk curve uploaded (you forgot to set the maintainer) [15:50] ahh yeah, that option is kind of not there [16:01] a|wen: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-rip-videodvd.desktop [16:02] a|wen: the file manager actions: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-write-bin-image.desktop http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/k3b-write-iso-image.desktop [16:02] those go to /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus [16:03] apachelogger: cool ... i'll take a look at it [16:06] * apachelogger moves out for coffee [16:08] jjesse: ? [16:08] jjesse: you know Matthew Helmke ? [16:11] will someone help me here...that archaelogy blog on the planet, was that an attempt at satire with their latest post? seriously adding a winky doesn't make it satire, and honestly not a post I would really expect from a "corporate blogger" [16:18] nixternal: it's not satire, he's just a twonkle [16:19] Riddell: rofl [16:19] wth is a "twonkle"? [16:19] it's a word made up to describe that sort of blog [16:21] nixternal: about the kdesudo bug, that's in the pipe... [16:22] Tonio_: groovy [16:22] groovy pipes indeed [16:22] i don't think you understand the definition of a twonkle :D [16:22] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twonkle [16:22] Riddell: sorry was afk, i've heard of matthews name [16:23]