[00:45] who can i speak with about increasing the size of my ppa? [00:46] ask a question on answers.lauchpad.net/launchpad [00:46] and the next rostered help contact will direct it to the right place [00:46] [noone is on at the moment] === Snova_ is now known as Snova [01:16] Only the reporter of a bug can close it, right? [01:18] no. === joey changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com === stub1 is now known as stub === lamont` is now known as lamont [04:41] jamesh_: hi [04:41] jamesh_: got everything working with the pygpgme thing btw [04:41] was a permissions thing on the .gpg folder in the end [04:42] problem when you're using effective-users for stuff and starting with sudo === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [04:44] duffyd: it's good to hear you solved your problem. [04:44] jamesh: aye :) btw you ever got zope.testrecorder to record tests for remote sites? [04:44] doesn't seem to work [04:44] probably because it wasn't designed for that [04:45] I've never used that module. [04:45] k np [04:45] just makes creating doctests using zope.testbrowser a little easier [04:46] we used to use a recorder thingee as a first step in generating page tests, but haven't done anything like that since switching to testbrowser [04:46] k [04:46] its not that accurate anyway [04:46] stupid thing ;) [04:47] I'm not sure it'd be that useful for the way we write our tests. [04:47] I'm not even wanting to use it to generate doctests in this case, just to create some quick instructions for a client [04:47] k [05:04] cu all [05:17] hey beuno [05:17] around? [06:34] so... this new releases/milestones thing is great - but I can't seem to figure out how to make a release that isn't associated with a milestone. am I just dumb? [06:35] mtaylor: IIRC a release is a milestone that happes to be released [06:35] mtaylor: so all releases are milestones [06:35] mtaylor: but all milestones are not necessarily releases [06:36] right [06:36] before, there was an ability to just go to a release series and "register a release" [06:37] is it now that if I wanted to achieve that same effect, I would need to explictly define a milestone, then go to that milestone and release a file? [07:05] mtaylor: I don't know the new workflow. Try getting salgado or sinzui when they turn up. === spm_ is now known as spm [07:52] mtaylor: There will soon be a view to allow you to create both at once. === al-maisan changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: al-maisan | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [12:19] Why can't I specify a commit message when I first create a merge proposal? [12:31] wgrant: you mean a commit message to be used when the branch eventually gets merged? [12:31] if yes, then i think this is a really good idea [12:32] rockstar: ^^^^^ [12:32] intellectronica: There's already a field for it. [12:32] intellectronica: But I can only set it after I've created it. [12:32] oh, there is? can't believe i missed it :) [12:33] I didn't see it until today eitherl. [12:33] oh wow, i can see. maybe that's a new feature. very nice [12:33] It must be. [12:34] Because I got a colleague to include the commit message in the initial comment just a couple of weeks ago... [12:34] wgrant: i wonder, how would you specify it? i usually create merge proposals by `bzr send`ing. bzr will have to know how to do that [12:35] intellectronica: I use the 'Propose for merging' link. [12:36] But bzr send could easily take an argument. It would make sense for a lot of cases. [12:37] yes, i guess it would make sense for bzr to take a parameter when sending even if it's not for an LP merge proposal, since sending a bundle is usually a process that should end with a merge anyway [12:37] Exactly. [12:37] What does it use for the email subject now? [12:39] it seeds them from the first line of the last commit message in the branch [12:40] which is often "clean up" or similar if there is more than one revision in the merge directive, so not ideal [12:41] Right. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. [12:41] it's arguably better than nothing [12:41] as it's only seeding it, you can set it to what you like [12:42] you would be expected to provide two things, a commit message and a cover letter, as they will often be different [12:42] there could be a convention in the text of the mail to separate the two [12:47] is there a bug open about the 'contact this person' thing on groups being uhm, problematic? [12:49] lifeless: yes [12:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/301727 [12:50] Launchpad bug 301727 in launchpad-registry "contact via web for groups is flawed because reply can only go to sender" [Low,Triaged] [12:56] thanks elmo === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:36] mtaylor: For this month only, you do need to define a milestone, then create a release from it. === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:19] hi there. [14:19] I am trying to send message to all members of the team and get errors all the time. [14:19] where should I report the bug? [14:20] the team is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-uk [14:22] How can I mark a package as also being affected by a bug report? [14:22] I click on "Also affects project", and it takes me to the page where I'm supposed to give the upstream URL for the 1 project that is listed. I don't see an option to add another affected package in ubuntu anywhere. [14:22] vadi2: 'Also affects distribution' [14:22] vadi2: does it have a Ubuntu bug task already? [14:23] ok, think I got it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/355005 [14:23] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/355005/+text) [14:28] imho, it would make a lot more sense if it said "Also affects distribution / package" [15:54] hi, there is a bug filed against pythonmagick version 0.8-0ubuntu1 a new package was created of version 0.8-0ubuntu2 but bugs still remain should the bug be reposted on the new revision [15:55] hoping this gets fixed, just want to make sure the bugs are still relevant when a newer release is made [15:55] and that only closing of the bug makes it not apply any more [15:58] hey does anyone know how to move my ssh public and private key from windows to ubuntu? [16:01] thewrath, I think you basically need to copy the files over [16:06] is the release registering stuff in the latest rollout.... wrong? [16:06] the blog post about it gives the impression that one can register a release and its accompanying milestone at the same time, but it seems like you can just register a milestone and then publish that to a release [16:07] (and fwiw, the docs on this appear to be wrong or missing, unless I'm entirely wrong about all of this!) [16:15] hi there [16:15] intellectronica: ok, let's use this channel rather then ;-) [16:16] sinzui1, ^^ [16:16] intellectronica: let me know if you need any detail about this GNOME watch not updating, I've some hundred bug numbers I can give as example ;-) [16:16] Ng: You must create a milestone, then a release from that milestone [16:16] Ng: This is for this month only [16:17] Ng, We will begine testing a feature to create a milestone while creating a release this week === sinzui1 is now known as sinzui [16:18] sinzui: aha, ok, thanks [16:19] sinzui: fwiw, I raise this because a friend of mine uses LP for his project, and said he would very much appreciate being emailed when he needs to change his processes like this. Maybe there could be a combination of launchpad-announce and the blog, aimed at project administrators? (probably more of a question for mrevell I suppose) [16:20] Ng: agreed [16:20] how can i create a private branch in launchpad? [16:21] i dont see any option or help in the documentation [16:21] Ng: Up until now we've done a mix of emailing people directly, where we can definitely see they've used a feature, as well as posting on the blog and launchpad-announce. This one probably should have gone to announce as well as the blog but it did go to launchpad-users. [16:21] Ng: it's difficult to get the balance right some times [16:21] mrevell: sure, you'll never make everyone happy :) [16:21] Ng: We promise -announce will be very low traffic -- downtime notiftications, that sort of thing [16:22] Ng: So, I'm in two minds. I think -users is the best place for most communication like this. [16:22] mrevell: there's no way he (or I, as a fellow project owner) will subscribe to -users :) [16:23] Ng: Why? It's not particularly high traffic? [16:23] s/?/. [16:23] hello? [16:23] hello pancake [16:25] pancake: Creating a private branch: you need to be a commercial subscriber just now. bac -- can you help pancake? [16:25] somebody knows how can i setup a branch to be private? [16:25] hi pancake [16:25] pancake: what project are you working on? [16:28] how can i became a commercial subscriber? === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:29] pancake: there is some information here: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-privacy-features-for-commercial-subscribers [16:29] mrevell: for his part, he has no interest in being part of the launchpad user community, he just wants to release his software easily. I just don't have screen space for more mailing list folders ;) [16:29] mrevell: but it's better than nothing :) [16:30] bac: Thanks [16:30] pancake: when you register your project and mark the license as 'Other/Proprietary' you will shown a link for buying a commercial subscription voucher in the canonical store [16:30] will check that [16:30] pancake: once you buy that voucher you return to launchpad and apply it to your project. voila. [16:30] can i work on public branches and then convert them into private at some point? [16:30] or i will need to reimport them? [16:31] pancake: i *believe* you will need to push them again [16:31] oops ok :) [16:31] Ng: I think major changes like this are probably right for -announce. When it comes to changes that affect smaller, easily definable groups (i.e. people we can pull out of the db with a query) then we email directly. I'll check to see if the LP welcome email recommends people subscribe to -announce. If it doesn't, I'll amend it. [16:31] mrevell: I think that makes sense :) [16:31] pancake: contact me here if you have further questions. [16:33] Thanks for the help bac :) [17:10] hi all [17:10] is there a way to stop a build in my ppa? [17:10] no there isn't. [17:10] it seems the builder is down, and my build is stuck in "building" status [17:11] https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/lawrencium [17:11] for that you should contact launchpad staff =p [17:11] which is.. here. [17:11] i'm just not sure who they are [17:11] :/ [17:12] =p [17:12] sit around [17:12] i'm sure someone will attend to you [17:13] cprov, ^ [17:14] oSoMoN, cprov is your man, he's around somewhere [17:14] beuno: thx [17:37] is it just my imagination or has "register a release" disappeared from the series overview page? [17:42] dlynch: not just you [17:42] and the +addrelease url directs to a Oops page === sale_ is now known as sale [17:42] oSoMoN: thanks.... I was wondering if I'd done something wrong [17:43] that's been announced on the launchpad-users ML [17:43] releases are now automatically linked to milestones === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [17:47] oSoMoN: it sounds like I need to setup a milestone before a release then.... ok [17:47] hyperair: I'm checking your build [17:48] cprov: wrong person. i'm not the one with the messed up build [17:48] cprov: that's me [17:49] https://edge.launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ppa/+build/932005 has been running for two hours now, and it seems the builder is down [17:49] hyperair: I'm sorry, overlooked the IRC log. [17:50] cprov: =) [17:50] oSoMoN: the builder was deactivated for executing some other task. [17:50] I guess that didn't properly stop the build [17:51] oSoMoN: right [17:54] right, it's now stopped and queued for rebuild [17:54] thanks! [17:55] oSoMoN: yup, it will build this time. === error404notfoun1 is now known as error404notfound === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [18:01] kiko: in ubuntu it is in a file and that is why i am not srue === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === mrevell is now known as mrevell-dinner [18:41] thewrath, not two files? === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === beuno_ is now known as beuno [19:12] what's http://dogfood.launchpad.net ? === al-maisan changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com === beuno_ is now known as beuno === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:02] http://www.gulic.org/pastebin/28 I have dput"ed" some packages with this configuration last Friday and today is not uploaded yet. What I am doing wrong? I still have not received an email either ok or disapproval. === deryck is now known as deryck[out] [20:05] adrian15555: did you actually dput to adrian15_ubuntu_fai_ppa ? [20:05] adrian15555: mine has also: [20:05] [DEFAULT] [20:05] default_host_main = notspecified [20:07] http://ppa.launchpad.net/adrian15/ is 404 [20:07] that would be the issue there [20:10] tsimpson, https://launchpad.net/~adrian15/+archive/fai That's the place where I want to put it. [20:11] tsimpson, How am I supposed to write the incoming field then? [20:11] LarstiQ, Yes, I actually dput it. [20:11] adrian15555: that archive doesn't exist on ppa.launchpad.net, this is some sort of error [20:12] I'd suggest asking on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion if there are no LP admins available here [20:12] tsimpson, did you check the ~ ? [20:12] adrian15555: the most common error is dputting to a different location [20:12] adrian15555: look at http://ppa.launchpad.net/ [20:12] tsimpson, I mean it is a personal package archive, not one from a project or package [20:12] but tsimpson seems to be on to something [20:13] LarstiQ, well, I have one doubt about the "activate" step [20:14] adrian15555: incoming = ~adrian15/fai/ubuntu [20:14] LarstiQ, I think that I have activated the ppa but I am not quite sure right now [20:14] cprov, so it is ubuntu missing, then ? [20:15] adrian15555: it should work if you omit the last slash, it's optional [20:15] cprov, I am going to try [20:16] does ppa.lp.net/ get created after an initial upload then? [20:16] tsimpson: after the first publication, to be precise [20:17] up to 20 minutes after the upload gets accepted. [20:17] ah, ok [20:18] cprov, I am going to wait for email about accept. [20:18] cprov, So... the files that I have uploaded to ~adrian15/fai/ will be automatically deleted by the system or might I delete them somehow? And so how? [20:19] adrian15555: that upload was rejected, so already wiped from our servers. No worries. [20:20] adrian15555: btw, didn't you receive a rejection email from it ? [20:21] cprov, I only received an email rejection from the first dput, the one that was not well written [20:21] cprov, I did another three other dputs and no email rejection did I receive [20:22] adrian15555: let me check the logs for you. [20:22] I had: ~adrian15/ppa/fai/ and you adviced me to write: ~adrian/fai/ instead. [20:23] cprov, Ok. Waiting for your logs check. [20:23] adrian15555: 2009-04-06 19:20:41 DEBUG Subject: live-initramfs_1.132.1-1~ppa1_source.changes rejected [20:23] cprov, Yes. [20:23] cprov, I just have received the mails from these last three dputs. [20:24] cprov, Unable to find distroseries: unstable (That's the error). Is it changelog which it is incorrect, maybe? [20:26] cprov, That's very interesting. The other packages read intrepid instead of unstable. But I have got live-initramfs from Ubuntu 8.10 official repository [20:26] I am going to change it to intrepid and that's it. [20:27] adrian15555: ubuntu has pristine debian syncs [20:28] cprov, ok, that explains [20:28] adrian15555: you can override information in the changelog by using 'incoming= ~adrian15/fai/ubuntu/intrepid' [20:29] cprov, But the ppa will still be the same url isn't it ? [20:29] adrian15555: this way you wouldn't have to change the source [20:29] adrian15555: the only disadvantage of doing it is that the version number won't be changed either [20:30] cprov, what do you mean? [20:30] adrian15555: yes, the parameters after the PPA name are optional an will be used to adjust the uploaded changesfile [20:31] cprov, ok, that's fine [20:31] adrian15555: I mean that you can use the upload path overrides to adjust pristine sources downloaded from debian or other repository, without spending time changing the source. [20:32] cprov, uploaded. Now I will wait till 21:40 [20:32] adrian15555: :45 [20:32] upload processor runs */5 [20:32] cprov, I did understand that part. What I did not understand is the version number part? Why is it a disadvantage? [20:32] adrian15555: ah, right [20:33] adrian15555: by having the same version in you PPA and in the original location you lose the upgrade path on clients [20:34] adrian15555: people with your PPA and the original repo (debian, ubuntu, etc) will have unpredictable installation candidates. [20:34] because binaries, despite of being different (built in different circumstances), will have the same version. [20:37] cprov, Do not worry. I haved added my own lines to changelog adding that ~ppa at the end. [20:37] adrian15555: cool [20:39] cprov, It was written here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA So I did that. [20:40] If I am starting a new project and want it hosted on launchpad, I just register a branch, correct? [20:42] cprov, Packages seem to have been uploaded ok. I will have to test them as a repository another day. Thank you all for your help. [20:42] Just want to double check the meaning of "branch" [20:42] adrian15555: you are welcome. [20:45] anyone? === cprov is now known as cprov-afk === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [21:00] hey beuno [21:01] yesterday my boyfriend was uploading packages to his ppa and he asked me why in the +edit-dependencies page you have a Save button and a Cancel link, instead of a cancel button as well [21:01] I didn't know the answer :) [21:01] +edit-dependencies as in https://edge.launchpad.net/~ursinha/+archive/mamona/+edit-dependencies [21:03] hi Ursinha [21:04] Ursinha, there are links everywhere [21:04] beuno, but why a link and a button? [21:04] to clearly distinguish it from save [21:04] hm [21:06] it doesn't need to be a button, it doesn't submit a form [21:07] tsimpson, I'm just asking because I saw that in this page and saw Cancel buttons in other places [21:08] wanted to understand the difference [21:08] the "doesn't submit a form" is a good one [21:08] :) [21:09] I don't remember seen a cancel button anywhere, but then I haven't "looked" for one [21:12] yes, that too :) [21:12] I was on the phone, good that other people can think clearly [21:19] tsimpson, you don't need to go far, +edit ppa has one Cancel button [21:21] oh, so there is [21:25] "Cancel" buttons on web forms seem strange to me, you send all the data to the server which ever button you press [21:26] you just hope the server checks to see which button was clicked [21:27] tsimpson: file a bug, it should be a cancel link not a cancel button [21:28] thumper, it is a link :) [21:28] oh [21:28] right? [21:29] beuno, it's a button [21:30] aw [21:30] "it's a bug" [21:30] who wants karma for filing it? [21:30] hahaha [21:30] free karma! [21:30] I can do that [21:30] lol [21:31] that's the spirit [21:31] some day, you'll be able to use all that karma to buy a nice beach house [21:31] hmm see beuno [21:31] bug 347275 [21:31] Launchpad bug 347275 in soyuz "Include cancel-link into PPA forms" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347275 [21:32] the +edit page is not listed in this bug [21:32] I'll edit the description [21:33] done [21:33] mwhudson: around? [21:33] mdke: yes [21:33] * Ursinha loves dupefinder [21:34] mwhudson: just a quick question. We rely on a svn import here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome-user-docs/trunk but gnome is switching to git so I wondered if there is an easy way to switch over. LP doesn't do git imports, right? [21:34] mwhudson: do we need to work directly with the upstream git repo via a bzr plugin or can LP help? [21:34] mdke: lp will do git imports pretty soon [21:34] mwhudson: rockin [21:35] mdke: in the next release or the one after that, i guess [21:35] mdke: when is gnome actually switching? [21:35] ok, I'll keep an eye open [21:36] I'm not sure when the move happens [21:36] * mdke googles [21:37] mwhudson: just after 16 April [21:37] oh [21:37] we won't be ready by then :/ [21:39] oh well [21:55] Hello [21:56] I seem to need assistance signing the Code of Conduct. I have sent my keys to the keyserver, but it is not recognizing my fingerprint. [22:14] +filebug is busted [22:15] Timeout three times in a row, most recent (Error ID: OOPS-1192C2638) [22:15] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1192C2638 [22:32] sladen: +filebug on what? === thumper changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: thumper | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [22:35] thumper: /ubuntu/ [22:36] thumper: with the summary = "FFe bve-route-cross-city-south/bve-train-br-class-323 for jaunty/universe" [22:37] thumper: is that overly long and therefoer likely to cause a database search timeout [22:38] th (+daadvanced worked, but I guess it the search for similar likely bugs) [22:38] sladen: I'm not entirely sure, but you could use the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug-advanced to skip the searches [22:39] thumper: yes, I did, and it worked [22:39] ok [22:40] thumper: would it be possible to not error if the search timesout and instead just assume that there were no likely matches [22:40] sladen: not easily, no === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === flacoste is now known as flacoste_afk [23:20] hi [23:21] Hello seb128. [23:21] edge doesn't let me close bug #354710 as duplicate of bug #224229 [23:21] Launchpad bug 354710 in gnome-control-center "Display preferences takes more space than available on a Eee 701SD" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354710 [23:21] Launchpad bug 224229 in gnome-control-center "Quite hard to change screen resolution back to normal when resolution is set very low" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224229 [23:21] it displays a "The following errors were encountered: " with a red dot on the next line and no error [23:21] is that a known issue? [23:22] seb128: i can reproduce. this is not a known issue. care to file a bug? [23:25] intellectronica: ok, doing that now [23:26] seb128: thanks! [23:27] intellectronica: bug #356656 [23:27] Launchpad bug 356656 in malone "can't duplicate a bug, empty error listed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356656 === Snova_ is now known as Snova