huatsmorning everyone08:44
hyperairit's afternoon here =p08:45
didrocksmorning huats / afternnon hyperair / morning crevette :p08:49
crevettehey didrocks08:49
hyperairdidrocks: hahah =)08:49
seb128lut desktopers08:49
didrockshey seb128 ;)08:49
crevettegooood morning guys08:49
seb128didrocks: thanks for the evolution-mapi bug fix upload08:49
hyperairmorning didrocks08:49
seb128didrocks: do you think you could have a look to the nautilus-actions crasher I pinged you about some days ago too?08:50
didrocksseb128: y/w. We just have to wait for new openchange version in debian now.08:50
didrocksseb128: for nautilus-action, I take a closer look this week-end. I first thought of packaging the new svn version, but I have some autotools issues (it looks for Makefile.in.in in po/ and there is none...). So, I backported the patch but I have still to test it (some parts were not straightforward as the files changed a lot)08:51
didrocksI think it will be ok for tonight08:51
seb128ok thanks08:52
didrocksseb128: upstream also ping me about gtk2-engines-murrine. I updated it to the last version: bug #35524908:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 355249 in gtk2-engines-murrine "Please, sponsor gtk2-engines-murrine 0.90.3 into jaunty" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35524908:55
seb128didrocks: ok thanks, did you look if we can sync the debian version?08:55
didrocksseb128: hum no, I must admit, let me check (is there an quicker way whith a shell script rather than looking packages.debian.org?)08:57
seb128didrocks: way to what?08:58
didrocks(and yes, syncing is better : 0.90.3-1)08:58
didrocksseb128: to check the current debian version in unstable/experimental08:58
seb128you can probably use apt-cache madison with a debian source configured09:00
seb128I know the version is the same what we need to check is if there is some ubuntu changes or debian changes we don't want ;-)09:00
huatshello crevette and seb12809:01
huatshow are you guys ?09:01
seb128lut huats09:01
seb128good! you?09:01
huatsgood too09:01
crevettehey huats, long time no see09:02
huatscrevette: indeed09:02
huatsI have been really busy lately :(09:02
huatsbut this week should be a bit more clam :)09:02
didrocksseb128: I have to play with apt-cache policy to add a debian repos in my source without having to use apt-get source -t ... each time :) Appart from the Vcs-Bzr in debian/control, there is no ubuntu change.09:03
seb128didrocks: ok, let's sync then09:03
didrocksseb128: do you want me to change the bug description?09:04
seb128didrocks: I did sync it for you now so you can just close the bug09:04
didrocksseb128: thanks :)09:05
seb128thank to you for looking into it09:05
seb128mvo: hello09:11
mvohey seb12809:11
seb128mvo: do you run current compiz?09:12
seb128mvo: does the calendar applet open on front if you have other things on screen?09:12
mvoseb128: yes, I just discovered that too :/09:12
mvoseb128: breakage from the patch for the open u-m in background09:13
seb128bug #35533009:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 355330 in compiz "[Jaunty] Calendar applet popup opens under focused windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35533009:13
seb128bug #35555009:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 355550 in compiz "050_stacking.patch breaks stacking of splash windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35555009:13
* seb128 hugs mvo09:14
seb128652 open bugs09:14
seb128compiz receives lot of bugs09:14
tjaaltonhey, how do I disable the gphoto2/gvfs mounting of cameras? Bibble doesn't know anything about gvfs or dotted directories (-> .gvfs is not usable), so I'd like to use the old method of mounting them under /media09:22
seb128_you don't09:26
seb128_or you rebuild gvfs without the option for this one09:26
seb128_or you use gvfs-mount -u in your software to unmount it09:27
robert_ancellseb128_: what do we do about old bugs like 73069 which don't reproduce anymore - is there a way of downgrading from confirmed to "might have been fixed"?09:27
robert_ancellbug 7306909:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 73069 in gtk "gimp crashed to gtkfilechooser code (name_sort_func)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7306909:27
tjaaltonseb128_: hmm ok, I might have to do that09:29
seb128_robert_ancell: close it saying that you think the bug is fixed but that it can be reopened if that still happens with current versions09:30
robert_ancellseb128_: thanks09:30
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seb128mvo: the compiz change seems to make the session dialog open in background too10:34
vikrantwhat is the equivalent of whatprovides in apt-get10:39
seb128#ubuntu for user questions10:40
james_wthanks for the revert seb12:03
seb128james_w: you're welcome, let me if you think we should rather try to get the change working before jaunty but that seems rather something for next cycle12:07
james_wI think the NX case could be fixed easily (though I may be wrong)12:08
james_wI was hoping to get half an hour to do that, but there are other issues, so I think a revert may be the best thing anyway12:08
james_wat the very least the testing will have been useful12:08
seb128right, the NX case is probably be easy to fix12:11
seb128but we got several bugs about the change breaking some usecases12:11
seb128so I've the feeling we trade a set of known issue for a new one12:11
seb128and I think we should rather stay on the known situation for now12:12
james_wyeah, I agree12:25
james_wI think this should be a GNOME 3.0 goal really. While multi screen support isn't too bad now, there are still plenty of niggles because the lower layers don't have the right concepts for it12:26
james_wbut unfortunately I've not the time to make that happen12:26
seb128seems federico is spending some efforts on it though12:28
james_wyeah, that's great to see12:29
didrocksseb128: do you know what's the magic behind gconf in debian? Normally schemas are stored in /etc/gconf and we store it in /usr/share/gconf thanks to dh_gconf as you know. But there is no trace of /usr/... in /etc/gconf/2/path file. Do you know how gconf knows where to look for schemas file?12:46
didrocks(yes, still no-existential question, but I like to understand :D)12:47
seb128didrocks: the schemas are used at installation time not at runtime12:49
seb128didrocks: grep schema_location /usr/sbin/gconf-schemas12:50
seb128didrocks: the path file is a runtime thing, schemas values are writting to var12:50
didrocksseb128: ok, so, only the gconf-schemas call in .postinst is relevant to register schemas. If I change some default values there next, there is no impact at runtime12:51
didrocksseb128: ok, thanks for the info :)12:51
seb128didrocks: right, schemas are just templates that list keys and values to write12:51
seb128you need to use gconftool to dump those in the database12:52
didrocksseb128: default values in schemas are then stored in /var/lib/gconf/defaults, right?12:52
didrocksand I also saw some scripts in /usr/share/gconf/default that overwrite those12:52
seb128those are stored in /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults12:53
seb128which is listed before the defaults directory in the path file you mentioned before12:53
seb128update-gconf-defaults registers those12:53
didrocksseb128: ok, and files in /usr/share/gconf/default are executed at startup time? Why not just modifying default schemas value at install time?12:54
seb128didrocks: no, they are debian sort of schemas12:54
seb128registered using update-gconf-defaults12:54
seb128because that allows to have a clean order12:55
seb128- distro default12:55
seb128- upstream default12:55
seb128it would also make easy to undo distro changes12:55
didrocksok, we keep upstream default in schemas and add some kind of "distro default" with the files in /usr/share/gconf/default12:55
seb128just delete the default and run the registration update12:56
didrocksright, understood :)12:56
didrocksok, let me try this12:56
seb128what are you trying to do?12:56
didrocksjust reading gconf doc and trying to understand gconf layers12:56
seb128don't spend to much energy in that, dconf should come next cycle and deprecate gconf on the way ;-)12:57
didrocksas I am trying to get the GNOME technology in my mind as a whole to have the scrict basics12:57
didrocksseb128: yes, but from what I read, dconf will share some commons functionnality with gconf, right?12:57
seb128I doubt of that12:58
didrocksI just get subscribe and read GNOME desktop-devel-list, do you advise me other GNOME lists too?12:58
seb128it will probably have a compatibility layer to make the transition easier rather12:58
seb128no that one is enough12:58
didrocksbut you think that the underlaying stuff will hugely differs?12:59
seb128by underlaying you mean code wise?13:00
seb128or the user visible layout?13:01
seb128there will be a similar way to define system defaults, etc13:01
seb128pedro_: holla13:01
didrocksseb128: code wise, sorry13:01
seb128didrocks: code wise no, that's a rewrite from scratch13:01
pedro_salut seb12813:01
didrocksseb128: ok, thanks for all this information. I am still continuing in my GNOME trip :)13:01
didrockshey pedro_13:02
pedro_hello didrocks ;-)13:02
seb128mvo: can you look at bug #356203 for me?13:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 356203 in libglade2 "package libglade2-0 1:2.6.4-1 failed to install/upgrade: package libglade2-0 is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35620313:08
seb128mvo: I'm sorry but I've no clue what to do about "already installed and configured" errors ...13:09
mvoseb128: I have a look. its usually trigger failing earlier, if its intrepid likely a dup of a dpkg bug we fixed some weeks ago via a sru13:09
seb128mvo: no it's jaunty13:10
mvois it just me or is the io performance of jaunty dreadful sometime? maybe its the fsync() issue in ff or something, but sometimes just a save in vim takes ages13:11
chrisccoulsonmvo - it's not just you13:11
seb128mvo: yeah, it sucks here too, I'm happy we don't have tracker installed by default in jaunty13:11
seb128hey chrisccoulson13:12
chrisccoulsonhi seb12813:12
chrisccoulsoni saw that tracker bug13:12
seb128chrisccoulson: I Cc-ed you on a "would be nice to backport that tracker commit" bug13:12
seb128let me know if that's not ok, don't feel forced to work on it ;-)13:12
chrisccoulsoni'll take a look at that later. i need to speak to the tracker guys later, because I noticed that the new version always starts indexing when you insert removable media, regardless of what the settings are13:13
mvoseb128: I dealt with the bug13:14
mvoseb128: (the dpkg error thing)13:14
seb128they plan to roll a new tarball this week so better to talk to them early13:14
seb128mvo: thanks!13:14
* seb128 hugs mvo13:14
mvoasac: ff goes into unresponsive mode every ~60s or so when my system is loaded. is that a known issue? is that the fsync() issue?13:17
seb128mvo: ok, I feel a bit stupid now, don't trust the bug titles, that was an obvious error in the log, thanks for triaging this one ;-)13:22
mvoseb128: I'm not entirely sure why this one was actually be reported13:25
mvoand not caught by apts logic to prevent that13:26
asacmvo: most likely. if that happens try to strace it13:34
asacmvo: you are running 3.0?13:35
asacmvo: do you see anything special in .xsession-errors?13:41
mvoasac: joy, strace (amd64) crasht wenn ich es auf ff loslasse :)14:01
asacna grossartig14:13
asacmvo: anything in sessionerrors?14:14
mvoasac: no14:14
mvokenvandine_wk: do you mind if I take bug #353768  ?14:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 353768 in ekiga "Upgrade from 3.0.1-1ubuntu2 to 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 held back" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35376814:50
kenvandine_wkmvo please do fix that :)14:54
asacmvo: can you file a bug about the strace crash if you have a minute?15:05
asacagainst xulrunner-1.9 i would think15:06
asacwould be bad to not have that in a release15:06
pittihey folks, what's up?17:19
Keybukbryce: !!! argh !!!17:22
Keybukbryce: it looks like the X server is hanging just about every time after I come out of suspend17:23
Keybuk(bizarrely a couple of minutes later)17:23
pittiI have that as well17:24
seb128hello pitti, jaunty sprint before freeze ;-)17:24
pittiKeybuk: bug 339091, I forwarded it upstream17:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339091 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945] screen freezes a few minutes after resuming" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33909117:24
pittiKeybuk: Option "DRI" "off" in Device section17:24
Keybukpitti: does that disable anything?17:25
pittiKeybuk: will lose you compiz, but bring back suspend17:25
pittiwhich is more useful for conferences than 3d/composite stuff17:25
Keybukdo you have to rmmod drm as well?17:25
Keybukerr, where do you put the Option?17:26
pittiKeybuk: it doesn't get loaded in the first place if you disable it in xorg.conf17:26
pittiSection "Device"17:26
pitti        Option "DRI" "off"17:26
seb128who has a DVD driver and movies on DVD there?17:39
seb128does playing a movie work for you in jaunty?17:40
emberwith totem, yes17:41
tjaaltonso, in order for an app to show the gvfs mounts/shortcuts it has to support gvfs or is there a desktop neutral standard for it?17:51
crdlbtjaalton: it only needs to use GIO, which is part of glib17:57
tjaaltoncrdlb: oh cool, thanks17:58
crdlband there are some ideas about integrating GIO and KIO17:58
tjaaltonI'll let the Bibble devs know about those..17:59
rickspencer3seb128: I tried to play a DVD yesterday, and it did not work (assumed that I need to do some more configuration)18:10
rickspencer3or that the DVD was scratched or something18:11
seb128rickspencer3: ok thanks, did you get a specific error? do you have libdvdread and libdvdcss installed?18:11
rickspencer3seb128: I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. libdvdread is installed, but libdvdcss doesn't seem to be installed18:16
seb128rickspencer3: you need to sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh18:17
seb128not really obvious18:17
seb128but we can't ship packages for that for legal reasons18:17
rickspencer3seb128: ack18:17
rickspencer3I don't remember how I set it up in the past, it seemed more discoverable than that18:17
* rickspencer3 trying18:18
seb128there is some people who have a multimedia ppa or similar which has package for those18:18
seb128maybe you did use that?18:18
maxbThe alternative is to add the medibuntu repository18:18
rickspencer3honestly, don't recall18:18
seb128anyway I'm just trying to figure if dvd playing is broken or not18:18
rickspencer3yeah, hold on18:18
seb128syltherin did some changes to the build system because dvd playing was broken for him18:18
rickspencer3seb128: still doesn't work for me18:19
seb128he doesn't understand the changes but that seems to work for him18:19
seb128I've to go now for sport and dinner but I will ping you back later about that ;-)18:19
rickspencer3seb128: sure, whatever I can do to help18:19
rickspencer3just let me know18:19
seb128will do18:20
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calcasac: thanks for the update to the subpixel bug, i'll test it here to see if it seems to work for me20:15
calcjust need to make sure I can reproduce the bug again first, heh :)20:16
calchmm well if you patch fixes the app main menu then it probably fixes the whole thing, that part is very noticable20:19
calctesting now20:20
calcasac: ping20:48
calcasac: and thank for you for looking into and fixing this bug! :-)20:52
calcasac: it works after restarting gnome-settings-daemon except for the fact that hinting slight does not update the xrdb info and stays at whatever was the previous setting20:53
* calc hugs asac for the big help with this bug :)20:53
calcok this is crackful20:56
calci set font hinting to full and now xrdb claims its set to slight20:56
calci reopen the fonts page and it shows full again in xrdb20:57
calcchanging it back to slight leaves it set to full20:58
calcchanging it to medium causes xrdb to show hintslight20:58
calcwhatever is setting the xrdb hinting appears to be FUBAR20:58
calcno wonder OOo doesn't display right since it is using those values20:59
calchmm reopening the appearance->fonts dialog made it apply the hintmedium when it was earlier showing hintnone for medium21:01
calcyea this is easily reproducible at least on my system with the hinting not being updated to xrdb21:02
* calc reverting to jaunty g-s-d to see if it is buggy as well or if asac patch caused the issue21:20
calcseb128: do you know if there is an existing bug report about g-s-d not updating xrdb Xft.hintstyle properly?21:22
seb128is xrdb still used?L21:22
seb128g-s-d applies xsettings21:23
calcyes OOo at least uses it, not sure if anything else does21:23
calcwhile testing a bug that asac fixed wrt reporting the lcd filter setting via xrdb, i noticed that hintstyle doesn't seem to always be being set when it is changed21:23
calcsometimes it only seems to update once you quit the appearance program and restart it again21:24
seb128g-s-d should be setting to hintstyle21:24
calcyea it should be... it seems to not be, but i will see if i can reproduce it well enough to track down why21:25
seb128xft_settings_set_xresources() in gsd-xsettings-manager.c has the code setting it if you want to add some debugging21:26
Gunslinger2would anyone know if its possible to make the terminal window scroll text up instead of down by default?21:27
calcseb128: ok thanks for the pointer, i just rolled back to jaunty version to make sure asac's changes weren't affecting it21:27
seb128gconftool --get /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/hinting21:28
calchmm yea changing just now from slight to medium left the hintstyle set to hintslight21:28
calcgconftool shows medium though21:28
dobeyGunslinger2: i think you want #ubuntu instead21:29
calcclosing out of appearance totally and then going back into fonts details caused it to update21:29
seb128Xft.hinting: hintmedium is what it does for a medium value21:29
seb128Xft.hinting: 121:30
calcyes... what i am saying is that when i went from slight to medium Xft.hintstyle still showed hintslight, gconftool showed medium as did the gui, closing out of appearance then restarting and going back into fonts details caused Xft.hintsyle to show hintmedium21:30
seb128Xft.hintingstyle: hintmedium is what it does21:30
calcit seems to sometimes forget to update xrdb (or set_xresources, etc)21:31
* calc isn't sure what causes the forgetting yet, will dig in the source and hope to find out21:31
calcif i can't determine why i can probably at least make an istanbul video to attach to the bug report, heh21:32
calcthe code appears to be in plugins/xsettings/gsd-xsettings-manager.c21:33
popeycalc: i find gtk-recordmydesktop is better than istanbul - in that its more reliable21:34
seb128<seb128> xft_settings_set_xresources() in gsd-xsettings-manager.c has the code setting it if you want to add some debugging21:35
calcpopey: cool thanks for the tip :)21:35
seb128right, what I said21:35
calcseb128: ok, looking at it now, thanks for the help :)21:35
* dobey really needs to find time to hack on his 4324343 projects21:35
calcseb128: is it safe to kill and restart g-s-d in a terminal window to see the debugging info?21:36
hyperairit is21:36
hyperairi've doen it before.21:36
calcok thanks21:36
hyperairyour gtk themes will reset temporarily before you restart gsd21:36
hyperairwell actually the first time i debugged gsd, i added fopen/fprintf/fclose, and restarted my session =p21:38
seb128run it using --debug --no-daemon21:41
calcseb128: yea that is what i did21:43
* calc likes packages that only take 2m to build :)21:51
calcseb128: hmm so it is calling set_xresources but it isn't actually getting set somewhere after that21:52
calchmm it seems to call xrdb there directly, weird21:54
* calc adds more debugging to make sure it is getting set as he thinks it is21:54
geserhas someone an idea why gnome-session(?) believes that multiple users are logged in and wants a password from me to shutdown? it happens now and then but I couldn't figure out yet what it triggers21:56
calcgrr g-s-d is not rebuildable it makes changes it doesn't revert on clean21:56
seb128calc: did you look at the function I told you before? there is the xrdb command there, it just built a virtual file with the config and call xrdb on it21:57
seb128geser: ck-list-sessions21:57
seb128geser: could be bug #287715 due to cron and libpam-ck-connector21:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 287715 in consolekit "Trying to shut down or restart falsely suggests others are logged in" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28771521:58
calcseb128: yea, i see it is getting into that function with the right info, so now making sure it built the string passed to xrdb right and that xrdb actually got executed at all21:58
seb128calc: strace it to see if xrdb is called21:58
geserseb128: thanks, that's the correct bug22:00
seb128you're welcome22:00
seb128Ampelbein: want to do the glade3 update on http://download.gnome.org/sources/glade3/3.6/glade3-3.6.1.tar.gz?22:03
Ampelbeinseb128: sure, i'll do it in a minute.22:03
* Ampelbein is trying to connect nokia6300 with wammu - no luck yet... :-(22:03
jpdsWhoops, sorry folks.22:04
calcthis is fscking heisenbug, strace makes it go away and then it comes back when you kill strace22:07
calcprobably some sort of threading breakage22:08
seb128bryce: hi, could you have a look to bug #337926 again? there an url to a fedora change which fixes the issue now, could be worth getting for jaunty22:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 337926 in libxtst "vino: mouse cursor stays in upper left corner" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33792622:15
bryceseb128: alright.  I'm looking into xv-crashes-x bugs right now, but will put that on my todo list22:17
seb128bryce: should I try to ping somebody else about it? tjaalton?22:18
seb128I don't expect to be lot of work the patch is a few line and in fedora and upstream apparently so it's just a matter of slipping it in an upload ;-)22:18
bryceseb128: sure if he's around.  I will get to it eventually, I'm just trying to stay focused on -intel crash bugs.  Feel free to raise prio with rickspencer though22:21
seb128bryce: no, focus on intel that one is really a "would be nice to have and should be quick"22:21
seb128intel has higher priority for sure22:22
tjaaltonseb128: I can add it, should be safe since it's already upstream and written by peter22:22
seb128I will try to get tseliot or tjaalton to comment on it22:22
seb128tjaalton: thanks!22:22
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Ampelbeinseb128: "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libpthread.so.0 could be avoided if "debian/glade-gnome-3/usr/lib/glade3/modules/libgladegnome.so" were not uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols)." is this something that should be sent upstream, preferably along with a patch?22:29
seb128Ampelbein: there is zillion of such errors, I'm not sure if those are upstream issues or automake, libtool etc issues or extra warnings from the debian tools22:30
seb128Ampelbein: I would not bother opening a bug if you don't have a clear idea of what is wrong22:31
Ampelbeinseb128: bug 356614 ready for review.22:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 356614 in glade-3 "Please sponsor version 3.6.1 in Jaunty" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35661422:33
seb128Ampelbein: thanks22:33
seb128chrisccoulson: should your change on bug #354601 still be sponsored? or are you working on other changes?22:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 354601 in tracker "Tracker's Evolution module misplaced" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35460122:38
chrisccoulsonseb128 - just working on the other change now22:39
chrisccoulsonprobably best not to sponsor it just yet22:39
seb128chrisccoulson: there is bug #346912 too about a binary not shipped right now22:39
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/346912/+text)22:40
seb128ok will wait22:40
chrisccoulsoni can correct that packaging bug too22:41
seb128chrisccoulson: thanks22:43
dobeyhow do i link a bug against a project, to the ubuntu package of that project, in launchpad?22:44
dobeyah, n/m22:44
seb128the actions are just after the tasklist on the webpage22:45
dobeyhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/338261 <- would be really nice to get that patch in the ubuntu package, since currently smtp actions in bzr are kind of unusable without it on python2.622:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 338261 in bzr "Python2.6 hmac.py TypeError: character mapping must return integer, None or unicode"" [Undecided,Fix released]22:49
seb128tedg: do you have uploads that need sponsoring?22:51
james_wdobey: I'm going to request a 1.13.2, I'll ask that that be included as well22:53
dobeyjames_w: looking in the bzr ppa, there is a 1.13.2 but i don't know that it has that fix22:53
james_wthere is?22:53
dobeyoh, no22:54
james_wno, there's a -222:54
dobeyi read the version wrong22:54
dobeybut yeah, it would be (extremely) good to get that in jaunty22:55
tedgseb128: Only one right now: https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/evolution-indicator/packaging/+merge/525722:57
tedgseb128: I'm going through bugs making sure I'm catching them all.  We should really make it harder to submit them :)22:58
seb128calc: could you open upstream bugs upstream directly so you can get reply in a quicker way and put less work on ubuntu bug triagers?23:02
seb128calc: and I doubt that g-s-d issue is what you describe, as said there is no reason there should be a race there23:03
calcseb128: ok will do23:03
calcseb128: all i can report about the issue is what i am seeing, it seems to be in some manner threading since it goes away on strace, but other than that i have no clue23:03
seb128you mean the function is not called on normal run?23:04
calcwill report upstream perhaps they can spot it more easily23:04
calcwhen stracing it works every time, when not stracing it seems that xrdb most likely doesn't get called, or at least it doesn't update its list since the hintstyle is out of date23:04
calci put g_warning output into the xresources function to make sure it was being called to that point at least correctly and it was, so something causes it to not actually update randomly23:05
seb128Ampelbein: the soname needs to be update in the glade update23:06
seb128calc: the function is just calling g_spaw_async... there is no multithreading there23:10
seb128calc: did you look to the log if there is some warnings?23:10
seb128                g_warning ("Unable to parse command: %s", command);23:10
seb128                g_warning ("Could not execute %s: %s", command, error->message);23:11
seb128                        g_warning ("Could not write input to %s", command);23:11
seb128one of those23:11
Ampelbeinseb128: i look into it now.23:11
calcseb128: no warnings showed up for me, no :\23:12
seb128that bug makes no sense23:12
seb128can you add print calls in the function to make sure it's called?23:12
Ampelbeinseb128: there is a symbol added and none removed, so i thought a so-name change is not needed? (for libgladeui-1-9)23:12
calchmm i suppose i could move xrdb out of the way and create a wrapper script to see if it is actually being called each time and with what args23:13
calcin spawn_with_input or in xresources?23:13
seb128Ampelbein: it's getting late, I meant shlibs sorry about that ;-)23:13
seb128calc: spawn_with_input23:13
calcok i'll take a look at it23:13
seb128calc: replace the g_spaw_async.. by a system() call if you want23:13
seb128but I doubt there could be any race there, that's not multithreading, that's just async calls23:14
calcok, i'll take a look at it in a bit, i think dinner is ready for me to go downstairs :)23:14
seb128there is no reason the callback should vanish23:14
calcok, yea i23:14
calcok, yea i'll add some more debug info in there and also try replacing the xrdb program to see if it is indeed being called23:15
Ampelbeinseb128: i don't get it, sorry. where do i have to update the shlibs? the soname changed from .so.9.0.2 to so.9.0.3, but as the symlink stays the same... i'm lost, help me please ;-)23:23
james_wAmpelbein: you need to change the argument to dh_shlibdeps23:23
james_wcheck the manpage for -V argument23:23
james_wthat will mean that anything that builds with the new version won't be allowed to install with an older version in case they use the new symbol23:24
seb128Ampelbein: there is 2 ways to do that, either add a .shlibs for the library or DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_ call in the rules23:30
seb128Ampelbein: look to totem-pl-parser for a rules example23:31
Ampelbeinjames_w, seb128 will have to read a bit on it. thanks for the advice.23:31
seb128Ampelbein: no hurry for the update take your time to learn about it ;-)23:32
Ampelbeini will. i want to understand _what_ i'm doing and why. not just doing it. ;-)23:33
seb128Ampelbein: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/CheckingLibrarySymbols23:34
seb128Ampelbein: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html too23:34
chrisccoulsonseb128 - i've done the tracker changes now23:37
seb128chrisccoulson: good, ready to be sponsored?23:38
chrisccoulsonyeah, i attached it to bug 354601 again23:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 354601 in tracker "Tracker's Evolution module misplaced" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35460123:38
chrisccoulsonthanks for sponsoring:)23:42
Ampelbeinseb128: ok, i think i understand. i added DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libgladeui-1-9 += -V 'libgladeui-1-9 (>= 3.6.1)'. Reason: without it, the dependency for packages linked against this library would be without version information, so every version would be considered as enough. with this argument, every package that is linked against it needs the minimum version specified (3.6.1).23:43
chrisccoulsoni've opened a bug report upstream about the indexing of removable media, and prodded martyn on #tracker, as that's going to hurt people upgrading from intrepid23:43
seb128Ampelbein: correct23:43
seb128chrisccoulson: what is the issue? the performances hit?23:43
chrisccoulsonif you insert removable media, the indexer starts even if it is disabled in the preferences. and it indexes everything on the watch list (not just the removable media)23:44
seb128did he reply to your comment?23:44
chrisccoulsonhe's aware of it now23:44
chrisccoulsonthat was basically it;)23:44
Ampelbeinseb128: just one question: does this mean that every binary linked against 3.6.1 need >= 3.6.1 or does shlibdeps recognize somehow that a lesser version is enough?23:45
Ampelbeine.g. when the new symbol is not used.23:45
seb128every version requires it23:45
seb128you need to use the .symbol format for the other way23:45
Ampelbeinseb128: ok. i will provide an updated attachment.23:48
Ampelbeinthanks for the help and pointing to some more documentation.23:48
rickspencer3robert_ancell: good mornig23:49
robert_ancellrickspencer3: hey rick.  ready for meeting when you are23:52
seb128hello robert_ancell23:52
robert_ancellseb128: up late!23:53
seb128yes, finish some sponsoring uploads and going to bed soon23:53
rickspencer3seb128: I've been watching you work today, incredible throughput23:54
rickspencer3robert_ancell: I see you uploaded rhythm box this morning23:55
rickspencer3iPod support is important to our users23:56
robert_ancellyup, i brushed some dust off my ipod - was very suprised it still worked!23:56
seb128GNOME has a summer of code project to get ipod syncing in rhythmbox23:57
rickspencer3maybe for Karmic you should say that you "require" a new iPod, for testing only of course23:57
seb128let's see if that gets accepted23:57
rickspencer3robert_ancell: how does it feel to have a release critical bug assigned to you?23:59
rickspencer3what's this, like your third week? and you're already critical to the team! :)23:59
robert_ancellrickspencer3: looking at it now :)23:59

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