| === Takyoji is now known as Takyoji2 | ||
| DPic | hi, i'm here now | 03:48 |
|---|---|---|
| Takyoji | Oh, hello | 03:48 |
| Takyoji | So you're about a year older or so than myself? :P | 03:49 |
| Takyoji | But anyway, with that aside; I would certainly be willing to assist with marketing Ubuntu | 03:50 |
| Takyoji | So I take it there isn't any current project at hand, correct? | 03:50 |
| Takyoji | (I am 17 years of age currently by the way) | 03:51 |
| DPic | that depends on how old you are | 03:54 |
| DPic | whoops | 03:54 |
| DPic | nope, same age | 03:54 |
| Takyoji | Ahh, interesting | 03:55 |
| DPic | anyways, there *is* a marketing team for ubuntu | 03:55 |
| DPic | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam | 03:55 |
| Takyoji | Yes, I know of the page and so forth | 03:56 |
| DPic | oh oops | 03:56 |
| Takyoji | I believe it's how I came across this channel | 03:56 |
| DPic | sorry, i thought ti was #ubuntu-us | 03:56 |
| DPic | this* | 03:56 |
| Takyoji | Oh, that's fine | 03:56 |
| Takyoji | Too many channels open? :P | 03:56 |
| DPic | haha, only 3, i'm just really out of it apparently | 03:57 |
| Takyoji | Otherwise I just need to write up a resume eventually. xP | 03:57 |
| Takyoji | Ahh. Same, I'm on 3 on Freenode, 4 (2 of which are pretty much dead) on an IRC server I help with a little | 03:57 |
| DPic | mm, in response to the conversation before i got back, i'm not technically the team leader | 03:58 |
| DPic | i came in a while ago and got heavily involved and re-wrote the entire wiki | 03:58 |
| Takyoji | Overall, I'm currently paid to do web development and design. ENTIRELY self taught. Very fluent in PHP, HTML/XHTML, CSS. Would like to poke more into AJAX/Comet (continued) | 03:58 |
| Takyoji | Ahh | 03:58 |
| Takyoji | Although, the official team leader isn't really around anymore, correct? | 03:59 |
| DPic | that's my understanding but i might be wrong | 03:59 |
| DPic | don't want to step on anyone's toes | 03:59 |
| DPic | the team seems to be very loosely-knit and every once in a while good discussion will come up about how to make things happen | 04:00 |
| DPic | but nothing seems to ever come to be | 04:00 |
| Takyoji | (continuing my bragging, :P ). I'm also a photographer; I have my own Nikon D50 with different lenses and filters. Self-taught there as well. I also do a little graphic design; very familiar with Photoshop CS2, but just can't jump to The GIMP until it at least supports folder for layers. | 04:00 |
| DPic | nice, nice | 04:01 |
| Takyoji | One thing I think would be a nice thing is also: try to market the Ubuntu marketing team a little. :P | 04:01 |
| Takyoji | My reasoning: we just need more people to jump in as well perhaps | 04:01 |
| DPic | yeah | 04:01 |
| DPic | well, we need a defined purpose and scope | 04:01 |
| Takyoji | Ahh | 04:01 |
| DPic | and then we need to put together a game plan | 04:01 |
| DPic | right now | 04:02 |
| Takyoji | True | 04:02 |
| DPic | what i tried to do | 04:02 |
| DPic | was make the marketing team a central resource for ubuntu materials | 04:02 |
| DPic | a sort of marketing commons for all LoCo's and individuals to contribute and take from | 04:02 |
| Takyoji | However most of the LoCo teams are just divided from this marketing team, correct? | 04:03 |
| DPic | yes | 04:04 |
| Takyoji | And you hopefully intend to set goal(s)/focus for this group, THEN try to go about and make other LoCo groups consider on helping with and obtaining materials from this effort as well, right? | 04:05 |
| Takyoji | Generally asking: what's the order of tasks to complete in order to bring this hopefully back to life? | 04:05 |
| DPic | well, the goals/focus of the group might be fine, but i was just saying it's important to make sure of that before going ahead | 04:06 |
| DPic | well, set the goals/focus of the group, market the group, perhaps assign certain people to be dedicated certain tasks | 04:06 |
| DPic | i can try to dig p old conversation on the mailing list about it | 04:06 |
| Takyoji | Because part of the reason I even considered on helping with the marketing team is that I noticed there weren't resources that I could directly find that would describe to people what certain things are (open source vs closed source, distributions, etc) | 04:07 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 04:07 |
| JanC | Takyoji: why not use one of the tools that were actually made for working with photographs instead of the GIMP? ;) | 04:09 |
| Takyoji | With all this aside, another thing I've noticed is that nobody submits themes or anything Linux-related to deviantART even though there's a whole list of categories for such things | 04:09 |
| JanC | Takyoji: some people really do | 04:10 |
| JanC | but I guess most of the theme authors don't even know deviantart | 04:10 |
| Takyoji | I even reported to deviantART about a bug with a certain category that was sitting there for like months if I remember correctly | 04:10 |
| Takyoji | Perhaps | 04:10 |
| Takyoji | Another thing annoys me about gnome-look.org and so on is that there's really no regulation to submissions. Some themes won't be packaged properly, then you have to go through a stress of doing something else, etc. | 04:11 |
| Takyoji | But anyway, I'm digressing | 04:11 |
| Takyoji | I just haven't found a reasonable open source application that I can do things like web design and so forth within | 04:11 |
| JanC | Takyoji: what do you need for photo-editing? | 04:11 |
| Takyoji | I can use The GIMP just fine for image editing. I just need something as described above | 04:12 |
| JanC | there are applications like RawStudio & RawTherapee & such, duno if that's useful... | 04:13 |
| Takyoji | I've actually used Rawstudio | 04:13 |
| Takyoji | All the GIMP needs is layer support and a few other minor things and I'd be a happy camper. xP | 04:14 |
| Takyoji | I mean, support for folders for layers | 04:14 |
| Takyoji | And it was submitted in The GIMP Brainstorm blog like several times I believe. And then there was also Hackontest, where a contestant said they'd add folder support, yet I haven't heard anything about it thereafter. And so on | 04:15 |
| Takyoji | It's just such a necessary organizational feature | 04:15 |
| Takyoji | It's practically the only thing holding me back! xP | 04:16 |
| Takyoji | And a handy thing would be procedural filters, or whatever the proper term is. | 04:17 |
| Takyoji | And that also was submitted by people on the brainstorm blog numerous of times | 04:17 |
| Takyoji | Does anyone even now what the current direction of the development of The GIMP is, or has it died down? | 04:17 |
| Takyoji | even know* | 04:18 |
| JanC | heh, latest GIMP has the first GEGL stuff included (for some plugins) | 04:18 |
| DPic | no idea, here probably isn't the best place to ask | 04:18 |
| Takyoji | Well, true | 04:18 |
| JanC | in future all of GIMP should be based on the GEGL library | 04:18 |
| Takyoji | I think I read of that, but I can't recall what GEGL is | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | An image manipulation library that's quick and efficient, or? | 04:19 |
| JanC | yes, that summarizes it | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | Ahh, that should be quite helpful | 04:19 |
| JanC | specifically written for interactive applications too | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 04:19 |
| Takyoji | in contrary to some CLI-based program that edits images in a batch or something, correct? | 04:20 |
| JanC | I think it can be used for those too | 04:21 |
| JanC | but they wrote it for the GIMP, so they knew interactive use was a requirement | 04:21 |
| JanC | http://www.rawtherapee.com/ & http://bibblelabs.com are also linux applications for photographers | 04:22 |
| JanC | (not open source, though the first is gratis) | 04:24 |
| Takyoji | I'm also curious of poking around at HDR imagery eventually; I believe I've looked around at some of the programs before, but never really poked at the programs in depth | 04:24 |
| Takyoji | But hey, I would be willing to do any type of stock photography and of you would need | 04:26 |
| Takyoji | any of you would need* | 04:26 |
| Takyoji | As for a supposedly "showcase" website, you can view http://aquaeden.com/ Did the design (would like to redo it eventually), wrote the PHP (would like to rewrite that as well eventually xP), did all the photography, I maintain the dedicated server it runs on (SSH & Plesk though), and so on | 04:28 |
| Takyoji | Some elements of the design I don't quite enjoy (because I was forced to implement some of them) | 04:28 |
| Takyoji | And here's the gallery: http://www.aquaeden.com/pond-pictures/ | 04:28 |
| Takyoji | Now I'll finally shut up about myself. :P | 04:29 |
| Takyoji | All of it is work I did 1-3 years ago. I can do things a little better than I have previously | 04:30 |
| Takyoji | Otherwise what type of materials do you think should yet be created? | 04:31 |
| Takyoji | Or would we just keep contributing whatever is necessary? | 04:32 |
| JanC | you might want to ask on the ubuntu-marketing and loco-contacts & maybe also ubuntu-art mailing lists what is still needed | 04:34 |
| Takyoji | First I just need to catch up with my life before I can start doing work | 04:35 |
| JanC | that's very important indeed | 04:35 |
| Takyoji | Schoolwork, and my own work (redoing the website for the International Professional Pond Contractors Association) | 04:36 |
| Takyoji | They paid an arm and a leg a long time ago to a web developer that had no idea what he was doing. I found numerous exploits and alerted the owner of the IPPCA that I'd be willing to redo it for them for free (although they pay me whatever they want anyway) | 04:37 |
| Takyoji | So when I'm done with that I may just buy: http://nokia.us/find-products/phones/nokia-n810 | 04:38 |
| JanC | hehe, you know, you can get these for free at several conferences... :P | 04:39 |
| JanC | mostly to developers though | 04:40 |
| JanC | actually, I know the guy who's responsible for the power management software in the Nokia tablets | 04:40 |
| Takyoji | heh | 04:42 |
| Takyoji | interesting | 04:42 |
| Takyoji | I just need an official drivers license (provisional license currently), and then a vehicle to actually be able to attend conferences. :P | 04:43 |
| JanC | well, I heard trains aren't really useful in the US ;) | 04:43 |
| JanC | also, it has to be a Nokia sponsored conference, I guess | 04:46 |
| JanC | anyway, I'm going to see a movie and then sleep | 04:48 |
| Takyoji | Alright | 04:52 |
| Takyoji | Well, night folks | 05:19 |
| === Angel1c4 is now known as xq | ||
| === beuno_ is now known as beuno | ||
| === beuno_ is now known as beuno | ||
| * Takyoji pokes at the deadness of the channel | 22:52 | |
| newz2000 | Hi, is this team still responsible for the spread ubuntu project? | 22:56 |
| Takyoji | I believe so | 22:57 |
| Takyoji | It's the main community-based marketing team for Ubuntu | 22:58 |
| newz2000 | I had a request from some random person to point spreadubuntu.org to the http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/ website | 22:58 |
| newz2000 | I don't have authorization to do this but I can pursue it if the team desires it. | 22:59 |
| Takyoji | I'm not aware of that request currently. | 22:59 |
| newz2000 | (I'm the Canonical webmaster for ubuntu.com and canonical.com) | 22:59 |
| newz2000 | who is the main contact for the spreadubuntu effort? | 23:00 |
| newz2000 | I guess more specifically, the technical contact | 23:00 |
| Takyoji | For this marketing group, the primary contact is DPic | 23:00 |
| DPic | i'm not in charge of spreadubuntu | 23:01 |
| DPic | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects | 23:02 |
| newz2000 | gotcha, that's enlightening. Thanks DPIc | 23:03 |
| DPic | no problem | 23:03 |
| Takyoji | Bleh, it's terribly annoying when someone makes a website that's centric to one browser | 23:29 |
| Takyoji | This is even more foolish: The page says my brother needs IE5.5 or higher, and he's in IE8, and it's yet denying him saying he's got an "incompatible browser" that needs to meet the criteria I just expressed | 23:30 |
| Takyoji | https://medica.ikaenterprise.com/Errors/IncompatibleBrowser.aspx | 23:40 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!