=== Takyoji is now known as Takyoji2 [03:48] hi, i'm here now [03:48] Oh, hello [03:49] So you're about a year older or so than myself? :P [03:50] But anyway, with that aside; I would certainly be willing to assist with marketing Ubuntu [03:50] So I take it there isn't any current project at hand, correct? [03:51] (I am 17 years of age currently by the way) [03:54] that depends on how old you are [03:54] whoops [03:54] nope, same age [03:55] Ahh, interesting [03:55] anyways, there *is* a marketing team for ubuntu [03:55] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam [03:56] Yes, I know of the page and so forth [03:56] oh oops [03:56] I believe it's how I came across this channel [03:56] sorry, i thought ti was #ubuntu-us [03:56] this* [03:56] Oh, that's fine [03:56] Too many channels open? :P [03:57] haha, only 3, i'm just really out of it apparently [03:57] Otherwise I just need to write up a resume eventually. xP [03:57] Ahh. Same, I'm on 3 on Freenode, 4 (2 of which are pretty much dead) on an IRC server I help with a little [03:58] mm, in response to the conversation before i got back, i'm not technically the team leader [03:58] i came in a while ago and got heavily involved and re-wrote the entire wiki [03:58] Overall, I'm currently paid to do web development and design. ENTIRELY self taught. Very fluent in PHP, HTML/XHTML, CSS. Would like to poke more into AJAX/Comet (continued) [03:58] Ahh [03:59] Although, the official team leader isn't really around anymore, correct? [03:59] that's my understanding but i might be wrong [03:59] don't want to step on anyone's toes [04:00] the team seems to be very loosely-knit and every once in a while good discussion will come up about how to make things happen [04:00] but nothing seems to ever come to be [04:00] (continuing my bragging, :P ). I'm also a photographer; I have my own Nikon D50 with different lenses and filters. Self-taught there as well. I also do a little graphic design; very familiar with Photoshop CS2, but just can't jump to The GIMP until it at least supports folder for layers. [04:01] nice, nice [04:01] One thing I think would be a nice thing is also: try to market the Ubuntu marketing team a little. :P [04:01] My reasoning: we just need more people to jump in as well perhaps [04:01] yeah [04:01] well, we need a defined purpose and scope [04:01] Ahh [04:01] and then we need to put together a game plan [04:02] right now [04:02] True [04:02] what i tried to do [04:02] was make the marketing team a central resource for ubuntu materials [04:02] a sort of marketing commons for all LoCo's and individuals to contribute and take from [04:03] However most of the LoCo teams are just divided from this marketing team, correct? [04:04] yes [04:05] And you hopefully intend to set goal(s)/focus for this group, THEN try to go about and make other LoCo groups consider on helping with and obtaining materials from this effort as well, right? [04:05] Generally asking: what's the order of tasks to complete in order to bring this hopefully back to life? [04:06] well, the goals/focus of the group might be fine, but i was just saying it's important to make sure of that before going ahead [04:06] well, set the goals/focus of the group, market the group, perhaps assign certain people to be dedicated certain tasks [04:06] i can try to dig p old conversation on the mailing list about it [04:07] Because part of the reason I even considered on helping with the marketing team is that I noticed there weren't resources that I could directly find that would describe to people what certain things are (open source vs closed source, distributions, etc) [04:07] ahh [04:09] Takyoji: why not use one of the tools that were actually made for working with photographs instead of the GIMP? ;) [04:09] With all this aside, another thing I've noticed is that nobody submits themes or anything Linux-related to deviantART even though there's a whole list of categories for such things [04:10] Takyoji: some people really do [04:10] but I guess most of the theme authors don't even know deviantart [04:10] I even reported to deviantART about a bug with a certain category that was sitting there for like months if I remember correctly [04:10] Perhaps [04:11] Another thing annoys me about gnome-look.org and so on is that there's really no regulation to submissions. Some themes won't be packaged properly, then you have to go through a stress of doing something else, etc. [04:11] But anyway, I'm digressing [04:11] I just haven't found a reasonable open source application that I can do things like web design and so forth within [04:11] Takyoji: what do you need for photo-editing? [04:12] I can use The GIMP just fine for image editing. I just need something as described above [04:13] there are applications like RawStudio & RawTherapee & such, duno if that's useful... [04:13] I've actually used Rawstudio [04:14] All the GIMP needs is layer support and a few other minor things and I'd be a happy camper. xP [04:14] I mean, support for folders for layers [04:15] And it was submitted in The GIMP Brainstorm blog like several times I believe. And then there was also Hackontest, where a contestant said they'd add folder support, yet I haven't heard anything about it thereafter. And so on [04:15] It's just such a necessary organizational feature [04:16] It's practically the only thing holding me back! xP [04:17] And a handy thing would be procedural filters, or whatever the proper term is. [04:17] And that also was submitted by people on the brainstorm blog numerous of times [04:17] Does anyone even now what the current direction of the development of The GIMP is, or has it died down? [04:18] even know* [04:18] heh, latest GIMP has the first GEGL stuff included (for some plugins) [04:18] no idea, here probably isn't the best place to ask [04:18] Well, true [04:18] in future all of GIMP should be based on the GEGL library [04:19] I think I read of that, but I can't recall what GEGL is [04:19] An image manipulation library that's quick and efficient, or? [04:19] yes, that summarizes it [04:19] Ahh, that should be quite helpful [04:19] specifically written for interactive applications too [04:19] ahh [04:20] in contrary to some CLI-based program that edits images in a batch or something, correct? [04:21] I think it can be used for those too [04:21] but they wrote it for the GIMP, so they knew interactive use was a requirement [04:22] http://www.rawtherapee.com/ & http://bibblelabs.com are also linux applications for photographers [04:24] (not open source, though the first is gratis) [04:24] I'm also curious of poking around at HDR imagery eventually; I believe I've looked around at some of the programs before, but never really poked at the programs in depth [04:26] But hey, I would be willing to do any type of stock photography and of you would need [04:26] any of you would need* [04:28] As for a supposedly "showcase" website, you can view http://aquaeden.com/ Did the design (would like to redo it eventually), wrote the PHP (would like to rewrite that as well eventually xP), did all the photography, I maintain the dedicated server it runs on (SSH & Plesk though), and so on [04:28] Some elements of the design I don't quite enjoy (because I was forced to implement some of them) [04:28] And here's the gallery: http://www.aquaeden.com/pond-pictures/ [04:29] Now I'll finally shut up about myself. :P [04:30] All of it is work I did 1-3 years ago. I can do things a little better than I have previously [04:31] Otherwise what type of materials do you think should yet be created? [04:32] Or would we just keep contributing whatever is necessary? [04:34] you might want to ask on the ubuntu-marketing and loco-contacts & maybe also ubuntu-art mailing lists what is still needed [04:35] First I just need to catch up with my life before I can start doing work [04:35] that's very important indeed [04:36] Schoolwork, and my own work (redoing the website for the International Professional Pond Contractors Association) [04:37] They paid an arm and a leg a long time ago to a web developer that had no idea what he was doing. I found numerous exploits and alerted the owner of the IPPCA that I'd be willing to redo it for them for free (although they pay me whatever they want anyway) [04:38] So when I'm done with that I may just buy: http://nokia.us/find-products/phones/nokia-n810 [04:39] hehe, you know, you can get these for free at several conferences... :P [04:40] mostly to developers though [04:40] actually, I know the guy who's responsible for the power management software in the Nokia tablets [04:42] heh [04:42] interesting [04:43] I just need an official drivers license (provisional license currently), and then a vehicle to actually be able to attend conferences. :P [04:43] well, I heard trains aren't really useful in the US ;) [04:46] also, it has to be a Nokia sponsored conference, I guess [04:48] anyway, I'm going to see a movie and then sleep [04:52] Alright [05:19] Well, night folks === Angel1c4 is now known as xq === beuno_ is now known as beuno === beuno_ is now known as beuno [22:52] * Takyoji pokes at the deadness of the channel [22:56] Hi, is this team still responsible for the spread ubuntu project? [22:57] I believe so [22:58] It's the main community-based marketing team for Ubuntu [22:58] I had a request from some random person to point spreadubuntu.org to the http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/ website [22:59] I don't have authorization to do this but I can pursue it if the team desires it. [22:59] I'm not aware of that request currently. [22:59] (I'm the Canonical webmaster for ubuntu.com and canonical.com) [23:00] who is the main contact for the spreadubuntu effort? [23:00] I guess more specifically, the technical contact [23:00] For this marketing group, the primary contact is DPic [23:01] i'm not in charge of spreadubuntu [23:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects [23:03] gotcha, that's enlightening. Thanks DPIc [23:03] no problem [23:29] Bleh, it's terribly annoying when someone makes a website that's centric to one browser [23:30] This is even more foolish: The page says my brother needs IE5.5 or higher, and he's in IE8, and it's yet denying him saying he's got an "incompatible browser" that needs to meet the criteria I just expressed [23:40] https://medica.ikaenterprise.com/Errors/IncompatibleBrowser.aspx