[00:22] <User746> hello
[00:22] <tkooger> I have a xubuntu problem
[00:22] <tkooger> lol :P
[00:23] <tkooger> I have installed it on my old clam mac laptop
[00:23] <tkooger> and when I try to launch any programs they pop up then close
[00:24] <tkooger> anyone have any experiance with xubuntu on mac?
[00:24] <mprice> try opening up the application in the terminal it is probably segfaulting
[00:25] <tkooger> can't even get the termin l up it closes right after it is finished loading
[00:25] <mprice> which version of xubuntu?
[00:25] <tkooger> would be the most recent ppc version
[00:26] <tkooger> so 8.10
[00:29] <tkooger> also the icons on my desktop keep dissapearing
[00:29] <mprice> hmmm...... that is very messed up
[00:30] <tkooger> seems like the only window that I can get to work is the setings manager so that I can keep telling xfce to manage my desktop then my icons come back
[00:31] <mprice> here is a bug filed about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/297842
[00:32] <mprice> fixes here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982270 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=977120
[00:33] <mprice> and here: http://www.ppclinux.co.uk/wiki/maclin/Xubuntu_Thunar_file_manager_just_exits
[00:33] <tkooger> thanks man I will check them out
[00:33] <mprice> hope that helps tkooger
[00:59] <tkooger> has that fix been posted in the offical ubuntu intrepid-updates?
[01:02] <SML1226> Hi what's the best way to save my stuff from windows? Dad and sister are using a pc loaded with viruses and I need to back some stuff up before the restore. What should I do?
[01:03] <mprice> tkooger, that I don't know but I assume its fixed in Jaunty
[01:04] <tkooger> Jaunty?
[01:04] <mprice> 9.04
[01:04] <tkooger> sorry I am a linux vergin
[01:04] <tkooger> Ah
[01:04] <mprice> next version of Ubuntu coming out
[01:04] <tkooger> whens the release?
[01:05] <SML1226> I mean should I just move files or make a total backup and copy over the ones I want? I don't want to lose ones I need by forgetting the backup and then restoring it.
[01:05] <tkooger> nvm I will look it up
[01:05] <mprice> April 23
[01:05] <tkooger> Thanks.
[01:07] <mprice> Well SML1226 I would just backup the important stuff but I would also make sure that anything you backup gets scanned for virus's before you reload it after restoring
[01:09] <mprice> that way you don't reinfect the computer
[01:09] <SML1226> Yeah that was the plan but I am not sure how to go about backing it up. I know that in windows you can create a vhd image and restore parts of that. I don't want to accidentally forget certain files.
[01:10] <SML1226> I also don't know how I'm going to do my drm'd music files after this
[01:10] <SML1226> It would take a lot to burn all of them to have them for good
[01:10] <SML1226> w/o a drm that is
[01:11] <mprice> do you have an external harddrive or a spare harddrive?
[01:11] <SML1226> I do but they are really small in comparison
[01:12] <SML1226> they are like half the size
[01:13] <SML1226> nm I remembered that I have a free 70ish GB partition free on a 200GB that would bork
[01:13] <SML1226> work*
[01:13] <gorgut> hey guys, i'm having trouble getting networking up in VirtualBox. i get "Failed to initialize Host Interface Networking" Any tips?
[01:13] <gorgut> I'm virtualizing XP on Intrepid
[01:14] <SML1226> Weak PSU doesn't always power 2 hdd's though
[01:14] <SML1226> Oh forget it I have an idea. It is going to take forever though!
[01:15] <mprice> fresh install of virtualbox, gorgut?
[01:15] <gorgut> mprice, pretty recent.
[01:15] <mprice> have you dist-upgraded since you installed virtualbox
[01:15] <gorgut> mprice, yes. I also have guest additions installed
[01:16] <gorgut> mprice, wait.. not dist-upgrade
[01:16] <gorgut> mprice, just upgrade. Sorry.
[01:17] <SML1226> I need to burn some CDs, back it all up, restore the entire drive, update windows 50 times, restore the important files, install 10 anti-virus programs and then run them all at once :P
[01:18] <mprice> check this out gorgut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185
[01:19] <mprice> or switch to u(k)(x)buntu :)
[01:19] <SML1226> so slow! and anybody use or used to use xp? best anti-virus? On my pc I use AVG but if there is something better tell me
[01:19] <bytor4232> I have to say, I LOVE XFCE 4.6.
[01:20] <gorgut> mprice, i'm using 2.0.4 OSE btw... if that helps
[01:21] <mprice> did the networking ever work before, gorgut?
[01:21] <gorgut> mprice, no
[01:21] <mprice> try those steps in that link than gorgut
[01:22] <SML1226> and please don't hate me for coming here to talk windows, sorta. I just know linux is an easy (easier) way to back this stuff up.
[01:22] <mprice> no big deal SML1226
[01:30] <gorgut> mprice, ok. i apparently don't have 'brctl' installed and package search shows nothing like that. any ideas?
[01:33] <mprice> install the bridge-utils package, gorgut
[01:33] <gorgut> mprice, now, is this just to bridge to ethernet interfaces, because Im using a wireless interface?
[01:37] <mprice> I don't honestly know, gorgut
[01:37] <gorgut> mprice, ok.. just plugging wlan0 in instead of eth0
[01:37] <mprice> that should work
[01:38] <gorgut> mprice, appears to work so far, i'm just not sure about this IP address in this foum
[01:38] <gorgut> obviously, the one I use won't be the same, but I just wonder if that's any random, unused IP on the LAN or what?
[01:39] <mprice> I believe so
[02:52] <gek_onthe> hi all
[03:11] <SML1226> anybody use pidgin?
[03:14] <rocko> no get out SML1226
[03:14] <rocko> just jokin'
[03:14] <rocko> hehehe
[03:14] <SML1226> why? I have a question about it
[03:14] <rocko> what is your problem SML1226
[03:15] <SML1226> just wondering how you make a quit message or change your name while in pidgin
[03:15] <rocko> what is your question SML1226
[03:16] <rocko> um you should consult the documentation for pidgin instead of wasting your time and other peoples time
[03:17] <SML1226> ok but I can't find it
[03:19] <rocko> SML1226 join #pidgin
[03:19] <SML1226> ok didn't know there was a room for it thanks
[03:25] <CaioCarrara_BRA> hey, can someone help me?
[03:26] <rocko> no we can't
[03:27] <rocko> CaioCarrara_BRA what do you need?
[03:29] <CaioCarrara_BRA> My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me?
[03:33] <CaioCarrara_BRA> rocko  My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me?
[03:35] <rocko> can you open up a terminal and type in lspci
[03:35] <rocko> the copy and paste the output at pastebin.ca please
[03:35] <rocko> CaioCarrara_BRA ^
[03:37] <CaioCarrara_BRA> rocko http://pastebin.ca/1383338
[03:40] <SML1226> rocko what's with saying something like no or go away when somebody asks for help? I know you're joking but why?
[03:42] <rocko> um
[03:44] <the_engineer> can anyone help me clean the 'session autostart' in XFCE on Xubuntu?
[03:44] <Mood> it's what happens when you combine a computer + irc+ emo :-s
[03:44] <the_engineer> I've been troubleshooting an autostart problem for a bit and I think this is my problem
[03:44] <Mood> computer + irc  + emo = sarcasm
[03:45] <the_engineer> I found this tidbit here http://paste.ubuntu.com/145242/ but I can't find anything in Desktop/autostart
[03:50] <the_engineer> or can anyone tell me wheter there are any system-critical applications that might be listed in autostart that I definitely should NOT uncheck?
[03:51] <the_engineer> and by that I mean in "Autostarted apps" or "xfce4-autostart-editor
[05:29] <Drew3> Hi all, I did not leave well enough alone, ooops.  What packages are needed to make a net connection auto-connect,  I was working very well and I screwed it up.
[05:31] <Drew3> I intend to uninstall and re-install the packages involved, can anyone name a few or a group.
[06:00] <J_Litewski> ok, i got a weird question
[06:00] <J_Litewski> i need to make a acpi event shell script
[06:02] <J_Litewski> since there is no Dell acpi event for the volume buttons
[06:23] <TheSheep> volume is not handled by acpi
[06:24] <TheSheep> just set your keyboard layout properly, the media buttons are bound to apropriate commands already
[06:26] <J_Litewski> on the Dell Inspiron 1000 it is
[06:27] <J_Litewski> it's an Fn+F* combo
[06:29] <J_Litewski> the brightness buttons work now after i downloaded the driver for it, but the volume button refuse to work
[06:31] <J_Litewski> i also tested the brightness commands found in /etc/acpi/ and they dim and brighten my screen
[09:12] <draenei> Hi all
[09:13] <TheSheep> !hi
[09:13] <draenei> thanks! :)
[09:17] <forces> !hi me
[09:17] <forces> !hi /me
[09:17] <forces> !hi | me
[09:18] <forces> !hi | /me
[09:18] <forces> ??
[09:18] <forces> bug
[09:18] <TheSheep> !botabuse | forces
[09:35] <nikolam> can I mount ext4 partition with Hardy?
[09:35] <TheSheep> no
[09:35] <TheSheep> I mean, you can, if it doesn't use extends
[09:36] <TheSheep> it's backward-compatible with ext3
[09:38] <nikolam> I use hardy. It seem that ext4 is not recognized
[09:38] <nikolam> i tried to mount it as if it is ext3 or ext2 .
[09:39] <nikolam> I have testing jaunty on ext4
[09:39] <nikolam> maybe I should ask on ubuntu+1, since ext4 is for testing, anyway
[09:52] <chewit> Hardy doesn't support ext4, it uses an older kernel
[09:54] <Slonkie> Anybody knows how to start the calculator from terminal?
[09:54] <Slonkie> (not xcalc)
[09:58] <Roonux> Slonkie: gcalctool
[09:58] <TheSheep> Slonkie: bc
[09:59] <Roonux> dpkg -l | grep calculator ;p
[10:00] <Slonkie> thanks Roonux !
[10:02] <Slonkie> one more.. I've got a dead icon in my multimedia cat. i tried sudo apt-get autoremove exaile
[10:03] <Slonkie> but the icon is still there.. then i tried /usr/share/applications but there's no exaile icon in there either
[10:07] <chewit> Slonkie, i noticed exaile. i think it installed itself after i did some updates on satuday
[10:08] <chewit> but the icon disappeared for me when i removed it.
[10:08] <Slonkie> :-/
[10:08] <chewit> could log in and log back out
[10:08] <chewit> to refresh the menu
[10:08] <Slonkie> This one diden't add itself. i installed it a lil' back. but now it wont go away :P
[10:09] <Slonkie> i even tried reinstalling exaile and removing. diden't work either.
[10:32] <Slonkie> WHat application do you guys use to transfer music to your ipod?
[10:33] <ablomen> Slonkie, rhythmbox
[10:34] <ablomen> it can do basic stuff like transfering music to/from your ipod
[10:34] <Slonkie> Cool
[10:35] <Slonkie> stupid apple! making it sooo difficult
[10:35] <ablomen> for more extensive stuff you might want to try gtkpod, its a lousy interface but pretty advanced
[10:35] <Slonkie> No i only need to transfer music so i guess rhythmbox will do just fine
[10:35] <ablomen> ok :)
[10:35] <Slonkie> Thanks
[10:35] <ablomen> yw
[10:41] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: you might try Rockbox , it is an alternative operating system for your mp3 player
[10:41] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: I can't promise that it will run on your model, though.  You will have to check their homepage
[10:42] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: http://www.rockbox.org/
[10:43] <Slonkie> I don't know if i dare trying such :P
[11:03] <Roonux> q!
[11:03] <Roonux> hum :p
[12:18] <Slonkie> What application would you recommend to compile .tex documents to .pdf?
[12:19] <chewit> OO.org
[12:19] <chewit> it does a good job at converting text files to pdf
[12:25] <G-Bleezy> Is Xubuntu installed on Ext3 by default?
[12:25] <G-Bleezy> or can you make it install on Ext3?
[12:45] <CloseYetFar> you can select the file system on install
[12:45] <CloseYetFar> yea you can use ext3 its what I would recommend
[13:25] <Pres-Gas> Hey, all.
[13:26] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: if you install texlive-base-bin you will have a command line tool called pdflatex that does what you wish (compile .tex files to PDF)
[13:26] <vinnl> Hey
[13:26] <gabkdlly> Pres-Gas: hi
[13:27] <Slonkie> Thanks, gabkdlly !
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> I am trying to figure out if 9.04 will offer the encrypted home in the regular installer this time or do we still need to burn the alternative install iso?
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> Not immediately finding it in a search
[13:28] <vinnl> I'm *thinking* you'll need Alternate, not sure though
[13:28] <Pres-Gas> I will still look and report back here
[13:30] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/jaunty-encrypted-home-directories.html
[13:31] <Pres-Gas> Alright, dustin's page was my next target 'cause he was talking about this the most
[13:31] <vinnl> Heh, it turned up in a Google search for me :P
[13:33]  * Pres-Gas drinks more coffee to get his google-foo on
[13:33] <Pres-Gas> vinnl, what were your search terms?
[13:33] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, ubuntu jaunty encrypted home directory
[13:33] <vinnl> My Google-fu rocks :P
[13:34] <Pres-Gas> I think my beef is the whole code names...I tend to just use version numbers
[13:34] <vinnl> Ah
[13:35] <Pres-Gas> I guess I will have to suck it up and use em
[13:36] <vinnl> Yeah well, in helping people I tend to use version numbers since they're less scary or something (or at least reflect a chronological order at first sight), when I'm looking for something related to developers I use codenames since they do :)
[13:37] <Pres-Gas> When I was an Apple tech, I refused to use their codenames too...
[13:38] <vinnl> Yeah well, with Apple you can afford it considering their target audience
[13:39] <Pres-Gas> You also had sub version numbers and security updates, whereas linux just patches as things pop up and I do like that better.
[13:39] <vinnl> Yeah well, we do have "8.04.1 LTS" :P
[13:40] <Pres-Gas> true, true
[13:40] <knome> and we have mysql-server5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10
[13:41] <vinnl> ^.^
[14:53] <Ruadh> Hi
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> Hellom Ruadh
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> Hello too
[15:09] <Ruadh> Nooo then
[15:10] <Ruadh> Got some updates to deal with.  later
[15:40] <Slonkie> anybody know how to use pdflatex?
[15:47] <bytor4232> Slonkie, I've never heard of it.
[15:51] <bytor4232> Can I ask questions about Jaunty in here?
[15:53] <bytor4232> I'm having two issues with Xubuntu Jaunty Beta.  For one, the mixer applet races at times.  I have to kill it and add it to the panel again.  The second thing, I'm getting a segfault when I try to load xfmedia.
[16:01] <Slonkie> bytor4232 u know any other application to make .tex -> pdf ?
[16:03] <bytor4232> Slonkie, Not sure.  Its been a while since I played with TEX
[16:08] <Slor> slonkie - can't you go .tex -> .ps, and then use ps2pdf from there?
[16:09] <Myrtti> Slonkie: what part are you having troubles with?
[16:09] <Slonkie> Making .tex to .pdf
[16:09] <Slonkie> Slor i know it's possible to make .tex -> pdf i don't wanna make it harder for myself
[16:11] <Slor> so what issue exactly are you having with pdflatex?
[16:12] <Slonkie> I don't know how to use it
[16:15] <Slonkie> And the guy who recommended it left
[16:15] <Slor> heh.  I assume you already have it installed?
[16:15] <Slonkie> yep
[16:16] <Slor> and you tried the simple "pdflatex whatever.tex"?
[16:21] <Slonkie> seems like my .tex is messed up
[16:21] <Slonkie> but pdflatex did something. not sure what tho :D
[16:21] <Myrtti> the .out -log should tell you what's wrong
[16:22] <Slor> been FOREVER since I used latex. :)
[16:22] <Myrtti> texmaker is a nice app for editing and fiddling with tex if you need some debugging etc
[16:22] <Slonkie> \relax it says
[16:22]  * Myrtti uses her pink emacs with auctex
[16:22]  * knome pukes
[16:23]  * Slor still doesn't touch emacs
[16:23] <Myrtti> gedit has usable latex plugins if you don't mind installing it
[16:23] <TheSheep> and then also installing the plugins
[16:23] <Myrtti> but in general, the .out-log should be a good starting point
[16:23] <TheSheep> and a sane non-fruit-salad color theme
[16:23] <Slonkie> I just tried exporting a math assignment of mine from maple to .tex. but it's messed up
[16:23] <Slonkie> i wonder if it possible to make .mw -> .pdf ?
[16:25] <Myrtti> anihoo, time for shower -->
[16:35] <bytor4232> Hm.  I haven't been able to get the xfce4-mixer to race on the CPU again.  Wierd.
[16:35] <bytor4232> Still can't get xfmedia to open.
[16:45] <Myrtti> and yeah, my opinion is a bit biased towards emacs after fiddling with LaTeX more or less for a year
[17:24] <disassembler> how can i clear my session cache? i forget the command.
[17:24] <disassembler> every time i log in arora and firefox startup.
[17:25] <zoredache> delete the files in ~/.cache/session
[17:25] <disassembler> oh okay. :]
[17:29] <disassembler> that fixed it.
[17:29] <disassembler> zordeache: thanks
[17:41] <moodog> evening :)
[17:45] <Slonkie> Shouldn't gigolo be build in, in 9.04?
[17:49] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, whats your question?
[17:50] <Slonkie> if it's build in or not
[17:51] <Slonkie> nvm
[17:51] <Slonkie> i found it.. stupid me
[17:52] <rocko> why does xfce leave blocks of white when moving images around in gimp?
[17:53] <rocko> it doesn't happen in gnome
[17:53] <rocko> why does xfce have this problem?
[17:53] <rocko> I have left xfce for this reason
[17:53] <rocko> it is really annoying
[17:56] <rocko> should I reinstall the update manager ?
[17:56] <rocko> it does not work any more :(
[17:56] <rocko> I have to use apt to update
[17:56] <rocko> but it still tells me when I need to update
[17:56] <rocko> so I have to use apt once it says there is an update :(
[18:03] <mweichert> hello. Can someone tell me how I can enable compiz effects on Xfce?
[18:04] <mweichert> I've enabled the Xfvm4 compositor extention... it's nice, but I'd like to enable effects like cube and task switcher
[18:07] <charlie-tca> !compiz
[18:14] <J_Litewski> when will a script in cron.daily run?
[18:15] <zoredache> about 6:45am
[18:16] <zoredache> check your /etc/crontab, they are called from there
[18:22] <J_Litewski> zoredache, i don't have a working crontab
[18:22] <J_Litewski> atm anyway
[18:22] <zoredache> if /etc/crontab isn't working then nothing in /etc/cron.d will get run
[18:24] <J_Litewski> so if i want to run something in /etc/cron.daily/, it has to be in the crontab?
[18:25] <zoredache> no
[18:26] <J_Litewski> ok
[18:26] <zoredache> http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2
[18:27] <zoredache> that is a standard /etc/crontab.  The 25 6 * * * line does the command 'run-parts /etc/cron.dailly'
[18:27] <J_Litewski> ok
[18:27] <zoredache> so what happened to your crontab?  Why isn't it working?
[18:28] <J_Litewski> i made a tiny self-updating shell script yesterday and placed it in cron.daily
[18:29] <J_Litewski> and now i don't know when or how it'll run
[18:31] <J_Litewski> basically, the script is #! /bin/bash/ with sudo apt-get update/upgrade/autoremove/autoclean with the -y option
[18:31] <Slonkie> Is it possible to make an script that automaticly logs into a server trough ssh?
[18:31] <zoredache> that probably isn't really a good idea, but if you really wanted to do that, there are already things that do that
[18:31] <zoredache> see apticron
[18:32] <zoredache> Slonkie: usually if you want automatic ssh logins, then you setup ssh keys
[18:32] <zoredache> Slonkie: do a search for 'ssh key based authentication' you'll see lots of useful tutorials
[18:34] <gorgut> Slonkie, I use ssh-installkeys for stuff like that
[18:34] <Slonkie> I'm not sure if that works when i'm using ssh as proxy?
[18:40] <zoredache> what do you mean ssh as a proxy?  Are you talking about port forwarding?  Key-based authentication should work almost everywhere
[18:46] <Slonkie> an ssh tunnel as proxy zoredache
[18:46] <Slonkie> ssh tunnel works as socks 5 proxy :)
[18:47] <zoredache> how are you creating your tunnel?  Are you running a script each time you login?   You might also want to look at installing gstm and thing autostarting gstm
[18:48] <zoredache> !info gstm
[18:48] <Slonkie> i just log into my server like this: ssh -D <port> -C user@ip
[18:53] <J_Litewski> how do you rebuild the crontab?
[18:53] <zoredache> what do you mean rebuild it?
[18:53] <J_Litewski> restore the orignal
[18:54] <bytor4232> J_Litewski, I believe the original is empty.  I could be wrong.
[18:54] <zoredache> I posted mine earlier... you could update yours so it is the same as that.  I haven't changed mine from the default
[18:55] <zoredache> http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2
[18:56] <J_Litewski> ty zoredache
[18:56] <bytor4232> woot!  The Jaunty netboot installer works today.  Thats always a good sign ;)
[18:59] <J_Litewski> bytor4232, could you test something for me?
[19:00] <J_Litewski> could you open a terminal, type xfce4-mixer, then close the mixer using the X, not the close button?
[19:01] <bytor4232> J_Litewski, what do you mean?
[19:02] <bytor4232> I'm on 8.10 right this second.
[19:02] <J_Litewski> i want to see if someone other than me is getting a gtk-CRITICAL error in the terminal when you close the mixer using the close button, not the quit button
[19:10] <fortunev> Mood: can you search for a pkg for me?
[19:10] <Mood> what's up?
[19:10] <Mood> fortunev: you're not on linux right now?
[19:11] <fortunev> I am via freeshells, Not my own xubuntu box
[19:11] <Mood> ah
[19:11] <Mood> what pkg?
[19:11] <fortunev> the pkg is tovid
[19:11] <vinnl> fortunev, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[19:12] <fortunev> that will show me all ubuntu pkgs?
[19:12] <Mood> fortunev: yeah ^ :-) but here you go: tovid - tools for creating video DVDs, VCDs, and SVCD
[19:12] <vinnl> You can search for packages in the repo there :)
[19:12] <vinnl> !info tovid
[19:12] <vinnl> ^.^
[19:13] <J_Litewski> !info alsa-base
[19:13] <fortunev> awesome. thanks!
[19:13] <tim__> hii
[19:13] <vinnl> !hi
[19:13] <tim__> yay!
[19:13] <tim__> i need some help if its not a bother
[19:13] <vinnl> !ask
[19:13] <vinnl> :)
[19:14] <J_Litewski> whats a CIDSupplement?
[19:15] <tim__> I'm having issues with blender and wings3d, the entire gui is turned blue! i think it might be a driver issue. I'm trying to install the proprietary driver in hopes that it will fix it. I downloaded linux-restricted-modules but it won't launch. What should I do?
[19:16] <tim__> I have an ibook g4 with a ati radeon mobility 9200
[19:16] <vinnl> That is odd... Do you see any output on the terminal?
[19:17] <tim__> sorry but i'm not too experienced, how would i check that?
[19:17] <J_Litewski> brb, system restart
[19:17] <vinnl> tim__, open a terminal window (Applications->Accessories->Terminal), then type "blender"
[19:18] <vinnl> (Also, you can't "launch" linux-restricted-modules... You install restricted drivers through Applications->System->Hardware Drivers)
[19:18] <tim__> Compiled with Python version 2.6.1+.Checking for installed Python... got it!
[19:18] <vinnl> No errors whatsoever?
[19:19] <tim__> no
[19:19] <vinnl> :S
[19:19] <tim__> same in wings3d
[19:19] <tim__> it all works great, its just all blue.
[19:20] <fortunev> tim is blender the only appt thats all blue?
[19:20] <vinnl> Wings3D as well, apparently
[19:20] <vinnl> I don't know what they have in commong
[19:21] <tim__> yeah i tried wings in search of an alternative, but only to find the same problem
[19:22] <tim__> i'm using 9.04 btw
[19:22] <fortunev> my unprofessional advice is to install another appt that uses the 3d portion of your vid card like warzone. If that is also all blue I would guess something is up with your vid card
[19:23] <vinnl> Also, since it *is* an unstable release, it might be a bug, in which case you should report it
[19:23] <vinnl> !bugs
[19:23] <tim__> ok
[19:23] <J_Litewski> how would i reinstall the xfce4-panel via the terminal?
[19:23] <tim__> i will do that
[19:23] <charlie-tca> !panel
[19:23] <charlie-tca> same command in a terminal
[19:23] <vinnl> charlie-tca, ah, there's an ubottu  entry, great :)
[19:24] <vinnl> There was something I'd have liked to see in there this afternoon...
[19:24] <J_Litewski> my panels work, it's just i need to restart them to get the Applications button
[19:24] <charlie-tca> knome knows how to get them in, maybe zoredache too
[19:24] <vinnl> Only I can't find what it was...
[19:25] <knome> ?
[19:26] <tim__> anyone using an intuos4 yet?
[19:26] <vinnl> J_Litewski, I suppose killall xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel
[19:26] <J_Litewski> vinnl, thats what i've been doing
[19:26] <J_Litewski> no luck
[19:26] <vinnl> Strange...
[19:27] <J_Litewski> should i bite the bullet and remove my config file
[19:27]  * vinnl off to play Hedgwars
[19:27] <vinnl> J_Litewski, you can press Ctrl+Alt+Esc and click on the panel
[19:27] <charlie-tca> J_Litewski: just add the XFCE Menu through 'add to panel'
[19:28] <charlie-tca> Then change the name in Properties to Applications
[19:30] <J_Litewski> well, i think i fixed it
[19:30] <J_Litewski> hopefully
[19:31] <J_Litewski> i just need to configure everything back to what it was
[19:58] <fortunev> q
[19:59] <Slonkie> lol
[20:00] <J_Litewski> is a DeprecationWarning bug worthy?
[20:01] <charlie-tca> J_Litewski: did you update and restart the system?
[20:01] <rocko> saluton
[20:01] <rocko> hello
[20:01] <rocko> hola
[20:02] <rocko> bonjour
[20:02] <rocko> moin moin
[20:02] <rocko> hallo
[20:02] <rocko> kiel vi fartas?
[20:02] <rocko> was ist los?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> rocko: enough
[20:02] <charlie-tca> please stop now
[20:02] <rocko> how are you?
[20:02] <rocko> why?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> this is an all english chanel
[20:02] <rocko> not everyone speaks ENGLISH
[20:03] <vinnl> In this channel they do :)
[20:03] <charlie-tca> This is an all english channel
[20:03] <rocko> :(
[20:03] <charlie-tca> There are channels for other languages
[20:03] <rocko> kial?
[20:03] <rocko> bonege :D
[20:04] <rocko> charlie-tca how is your xubuntu?
[20:04] <charlie-tca> working
[20:04] <rocko> * #xubuntu :[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[20:05] <rocko> ???
[21:42] <petrusevski> hello
[22:08] <UKGent> just installed the 64 bit version of xubuntu onto my laptop - working fine - Should make some of the more scientific Applications which I like to run sometimes, run faster. Already noticed that file operations and new installations run very fast
[22:34] <Slonkie> If i connect to a device in bluetooth, do i have to mount my mobile or how will i be able to access it?
[22:34] <Slonkie> the menu "browse files on device" is unavailable
[22:41] <Slonkie> Theres a key besides my phone name.. i wonder if there's some kinda lock on my phone?
[22:42] <Slonkie> i tried looking for something, i see nothing,