[00:22] hello [00:22] I have a xubuntu problem [00:22] lol :P [00:23] I have installed it on my old clam mac laptop [00:23] and when I try to launch any programs they pop up then close [00:24] anyone have any experiance with xubuntu on mac? [00:24] try opening up the application in the terminal it is probably segfaulting [00:25] can't even get the termin l up it closes right after it is finished loading [00:25] which version of xubuntu? [00:25] would be the most recent ppc version [00:26] so 8.10 [00:29] also the icons on my desktop keep dissapearing [00:29] hmmm...... that is very messed up [00:30] seems like the only window that I can get to work is the setings manager so that I can keep telling xfce to manage my desktop then my icons come back [00:31] here is a bug filed about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/297842 [00:32] fixes here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982270 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=977120 [00:33] and here: http://www.ppclinux.co.uk/wiki/maclin/Xubuntu_Thunar_file_manager_just_exits [00:33] thanks man I will check them out [00:33] hope that helps tkooger === danopia is now known as FBI{email === FBI{email is now known as danopia [00:59] has that fix been posted in the offical ubuntu intrepid-updates? [01:02] Hi what's the best way to save my stuff from windows? Dad and sister are using a pc loaded with viruses and I need to back some stuff up before the restore. What should I do? [01:03] tkooger, that I don't know but I assume its fixed in Jaunty [01:04] Jaunty? [01:04] 9.04 [01:04] sorry I am a linux vergin [01:04] Ah [01:04] next version of Ubuntu coming out [01:04] whens the release? [01:05] I mean should I just move files or make a total backup and copy over the ones I want? I don't want to lose ones I need by forgetting the backup and then restoring it. [01:05] nvm I will look it up [01:05] April 23 [01:05] Thanks. [01:07] Well SML1226 I would just backup the important stuff but I would also make sure that anything you backup gets scanned for virus's before you reload it after restoring [01:09] that way you don't reinfect the computer [01:09] Yeah that was the plan but I am not sure how to go about backing it up. I know that in windows you can create a vhd image and restore parts of that. I don't want to accidentally forget certain files. [01:10] I also don't know how I'm going to do my drm'd music files after this [01:10] It would take a lot to burn all of them to have them for good [01:10] w/o a drm that is [01:11] do you have an external harddrive or a spare harddrive? [01:11] I do but they are really small in comparison [01:12] they are like half the size [01:13] nm I remembered that I have a free 70ish GB partition free on a 200GB that would bork [01:13] work* [01:13] hey guys, i'm having trouble getting networking up in VirtualBox. i get "Failed to initialize Host Interface Networking" Any tips? [01:13] I'm virtualizing XP on Intrepid [01:14] Weak PSU doesn't always power 2 hdd's though [01:14] Oh forget it I have an idea. It is going to take forever though! [01:15] fresh install of virtualbox, gorgut? [01:15] mprice, pretty recent. [01:15] have you dist-upgraded since you installed virtualbox [01:15] mprice, yes. I also have guest additions installed [01:16] mprice, wait.. not dist-upgrade [01:16] mprice, just upgrade. Sorry. [01:17] I need to burn some CDs, back it all up, restore the entire drive, update windows 50 times, restore the important files, install 10 anti-virus programs and then run them all at once :P [01:18] check this out gorgut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185 [01:19] or switch to u(k)(x)buntu :) [01:19] so slow! and anybody use or used to use xp? best anti-virus? On my pc I use AVG but if there is something better tell me [01:19] I have to say, I LOVE XFCE 4.6. [01:20] mprice, i'm using 2.0.4 OSE btw... if that helps [01:21] did the networking ever work before, gorgut? [01:21] mprice, no [01:21] try those steps in that link than gorgut [01:22] and please don't hate me for coming here to talk windows, sorta. I just know linux is an easy (easier) way to back this stuff up. [01:22] no big deal SML1226 [01:30] mprice, ok. i apparently don't have 'brctl' installed and package search shows nothing like that. any ideas? [01:33] install the bridge-utils package, gorgut [01:33] mprice, now, is this just to bridge to ethernet interfaces, because Im using a wireless interface? [01:37] I don't honestly know, gorgut [01:37] mprice, ok.. just plugging wlan0 in instead of eth0 [01:37] that should work [01:38] mprice, appears to work so far, i'm just not sure about this IP address in this foum [01:38] obviously, the one I use won't be the same, but I just wonder if that's any random, unused IP on the LAN or what? [01:39] I believe so [02:52] hi all [03:11] anybody use pidgin? [03:14] no get out SML1226 [03:14] just jokin' [03:14] hehehe [03:14] why? I have a question about it [03:14] what is your problem SML1226 [03:15] just wondering how you make a quit message or change your name while in pidgin [03:15] what is your question SML1226 [03:16] um you should consult the documentation for pidgin instead of wasting your time and other peoples time [03:17] ok but I can't find it [03:19] SML1226 join #pidgin [03:19] ok didn't know there was a room for it thanks [03:25] hey, can someone help me? [03:26] no we can't [03:27] CaioCarrara_BRA what do you need? [03:29] My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me? [03:33] rocko My xubuntu don't know my video driver... I use a main board SiS 630 and the video board is "integreted", sory my english.... Do you understand me? [03:35] can you open up a terminal and type in lspci [03:35] the copy and paste the output at pastebin.ca please [03:35] CaioCarrara_BRA ^ [03:37] rocko http://pastebin.ca/1383338 [03:40] rocko what's with saying something like no or go away when somebody asks for help? I know you're joking but why? [03:42] um [03:44] can anyone help me clean the 'session autostart' in XFCE on Xubuntu? [03:44] it's what happens when you combine a computer + irc+ emo :-s [03:44] I've been troubleshooting an autostart problem for a bit and I think this is my problem [03:44] computer + irc + emo = sarcasm [03:45] I found this tidbit here http://paste.ubuntu.com/145242/ but I can't find anything in Desktop/autostart [03:50] or can anyone tell me wheter there are any system-critical applications that might be listed in autostart that I definitely should NOT uncheck? [03:51] and by that I mean in "Autostarted apps" or "xfce4-autostart-editor [05:29] Hi all, I did not leave well enough alone, ooops. What packages are needed to make a net connection auto-connect, I was working very well and I screwed it up. [05:31] I intend to uninstall and re-install the packages involved, can anyone name a few or a group. [06:00] ok, i got a weird question [06:00] i need to make a acpi event shell script [06:02] since there is no Dell acpi event for the volume buttons [06:23] volume is not handled by acpi [06:24] just set your keyboard layout properly, the media buttons are bound to apropriate commands already [06:26] on the Dell Inspiron 1000 it is [06:27] it's an Fn+F* combo [06:29] the brightness buttons work now after i downloaded the driver for it, but the volume button refuse to work [06:31] i also tested the brightness commands found in /etc/acpi/ and they dim and brighten my screen [09:12] Hi all [09:13] !hi [09:13] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [09:13] thanks! :) [09:17] !hi me [09:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about hi me [09:17] !hi /me [09:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about hi /me [09:17] !hi | me [09:17] me: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [09:18] !hi | /me [09:18] /please see above [09:18] ?? [09:18] bug [09:18] !botabuse | forces [09:18] forces: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". [09:35] can I mount ext4 partition with Hardy? [09:35] no [09:35] I mean, you can, if it doesn't use extends [09:36] it's backward-compatible with ext3 [09:38] I use hardy. It seem that ext4 is not recognized [09:38] i tried to mount it as if it is ext3 or ext2 . [09:39] I have testing jaunty on ext4 [09:39] maybe I should ask on ubuntu+1, since ext4 is for testing, anyway [09:52] Hardy doesn't support ext4, it uses an older kernel [09:54] Anybody knows how to start the calculator from terminal? [09:54] (not xcalc) [09:58] Slonkie: gcalctool [09:58] Slonkie: bc [09:59] dpkg -l | grep calculator ;p [10:00] thanks Roonux ! [10:02] one more.. I've got a dead icon in my multimedia cat. i tried sudo apt-get autoremove exaile [10:03] but the icon is still there.. then i tried /usr/share/applications but there's no exaile icon in there either [10:07] Slonkie, i noticed exaile. i think it installed itself after i did some updates on satuday [10:08] but the icon disappeared for me when i removed it. [10:08] :-/ [10:08] could log in and log back out [10:08] to refresh the menu [10:08] This one diden't add itself. i installed it a lil' back. but now it wont go away :P [10:09] i even tried reinstalling exaile and removing. diden't work either. [10:32] WHat application do you guys use to transfer music to your ipod? [10:33] Slonkie, rhythmbox [10:34] it can do basic stuff like transfering music to/from your ipod [10:34] Cool [10:35] stupid apple! making it sooo difficult [10:35] for more extensive stuff you might want to try gtkpod, its a lousy interface but pretty advanced [10:35] No i only need to transfer music so i guess rhythmbox will do just fine [10:35] ok :) [10:35] Thanks [10:35] yw [10:41] Slonkie: you might try Rockbox , it is an alternative operating system for your mp3 player [10:41] Slonkie: I can't promise that it will run on your model, though. You will have to check their homepage [10:42] Slonkie: http://www.rockbox.org/ [10:43] I don't know if i dare trying such :P [11:03] q! [11:03] hum :p [12:18] What application would you recommend to compile .tex documents to .pdf? [12:19] OO.org [12:19] it does a good job at converting text files to pdf [12:25] Is Xubuntu installed on Ext3 by default? [12:25] or can you make it install on Ext3? === keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx [12:45] you can select the file system on install [12:45] yea you can use ext3 its what I would recommend [13:25] Hey, all. [13:26] Slonkie: if you install texlive-base-bin you will have a command line tool called pdflatex that does what you wish (compile .tex files to PDF) [13:26] Hey [13:26] Pres-Gas: hi [13:27] Thanks, gabkdlly ! [13:28] I am trying to figure out if 9.04 will offer the encrypted home in the regular installer this time or do we still need to burn the alternative install iso? [13:28] Not immediately finding it in a search [13:28] I'm *thinking* you'll need Alternate, not sure though [13:28] I will still look and report back here [13:30] Pres-Gas, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/jaunty-encrypted-home-directories.html [13:31] Alright, dustin's page was my next target 'cause he was talking about this the most [13:31] Heh, it turned up in a Google search for me :P [13:33] * Pres-Gas drinks more coffee to get his google-foo on [13:33] vinnl, what were your search terms? [13:33] Pres-Gas, ubuntu jaunty encrypted home directory [13:33] My Google-fu rocks :P [13:34] I think my beef is the whole code names...I tend to just use version numbers [13:34] Ah [13:35] I guess I will have to suck it up and use em [13:36] Yeah well, in helping people I tend to use version numbers since they're less scary or something (or at least reflect a chronological order at first sight), when I'm looking for something related to developers I use codenames since they do :) [13:37] When I was an Apple tech, I refused to use their codenames too... [13:38] Yeah well, with Apple you can afford it considering their target audience [13:39] You also had sub version numbers and security updates, whereas linux just patches as things pop up and I do like that better. [13:39] Yeah well, we do have "8.04.1 LTS" :P [13:40] true, true [13:40] and we have mysql-server5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10 [13:41] ^.^ [14:53] Hi [15:03] Hellom Ruadh [15:03] Hello too [15:09] Nooo then [15:10] Got some updates to deal with. later [15:40] anybody know how to use pdflatex? [15:47] Slonkie, I've never heard of it. [15:51] Can I ask questions about Jaunty in here? [15:53] I'm having two issues with Xubuntu Jaunty Beta. For one, the mixer applet races at times. I have to kill it and add it to the panel again. The second thing, I'm getting a segfault when I try to load xfmedia. [16:01] bytor4232 u know any other application to make .tex -> pdf ? [16:03] Slonkie, Not sure. Its been a while since I played with TEX [16:08] slonkie - can't you go .tex -> .ps, and then use ps2pdf from there? [16:09] Slonkie: what part are you having troubles with? [16:09] Making .tex to .pdf [16:09] Slor i know it's possible to make .tex -> pdf i don't wanna make it harder for myself [16:11] so what issue exactly are you having with pdflatex? [16:12] I don't know how to use it [16:15] And the guy who recommended it left [16:15] heh. I assume you already have it installed? [16:15] yep [16:16] and you tried the simple "pdflatex whatever.tex"? [16:21] seems like my .tex is messed up [16:21] but pdflatex did something. not sure what tho :D [16:21] the .out -log should tell you what's wrong [16:22] been FOREVER since I used latex. :) [16:22] texmaker is a nice app for editing and fiddling with tex if you need some debugging etc [16:22] \relax it says [16:22] * Myrtti uses her pink emacs with auctex [16:22] * knome pukes [16:23] * Slor still doesn't touch emacs [16:23] gedit has usable latex plugins if you don't mind installing it [16:23] and then also installing the plugins [16:23] but in general, the .out-log should be a good starting point [16:23] and a sane non-fruit-salad color theme [16:23] I just tried exporting a math assignment of mine from maple to .tex. but it's messed up [16:23] i wonder if it possible to make .mw -> .pdf ? [16:25] anihoo, time for shower --> [16:35] Hm. I haven't been able to get the xfce4-mixer to race on the CPU again. Wierd. [16:35] Still can't get xfmedia to open. [16:45] and yeah, my opinion is a bit biased towards emacs after fiddling with LaTeX more or less for a year [17:24] how can i clear my session cache? i forget the command. [17:24] every time i log in arora and firefox startup. [17:25] delete the files in ~/.cache/session [17:25] oh okay. :] [17:29] that fixed it. [17:29] zordeache: thanks [17:41] evening :) [17:45] Shouldn't gigolo be build in, in 9.04? [17:49] Slonkie, whats your question? [17:50] if it's build in or not [17:51] nvm [17:51] i found it.. stupid me [17:52] why does xfce leave blocks of white when moving images around in gimp? [17:53] it doesn't happen in gnome [17:53] why does xfce have this problem? [17:53] I have left xfce for this reason [17:53] it is really annoying [17:56] should I reinstall the update manager ? [17:56] it does not work any more :( [17:56] I have to use apt to update [17:56] but it still tells me when I need to update [17:56] so I have to use apt once it says there is an update :( [18:03] hello. Can someone tell me how I can enable compiz effects on Xfce? [18:04] I've enabled the Xfvm4 compositor extention... it's nice, but I'd like to enable effects like cube and task switcher [18:07] !compiz [18:07] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion [18:14] when will a script in cron.daily run? [18:15] about 6:45am [18:16] check your /etc/crontab, they are called from there [18:22] zoredache, i don't have a working crontab [18:22] atm anyway [18:22] if /etc/crontab isn't working then nothing in /etc/cron.d will get run [18:24] so if i want to run something in /etc/cron.daily/, it has to be in the crontab? [18:25] no [18:26] ok [18:26] http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2 [18:27] that is a standard /etc/crontab. The 25 6 * * * line does the command 'run-parts /etc/cron.dailly' [18:27] ok [18:27] so what happened to your crontab? Why isn't it working? [18:28] i made a tiny self-updating shell script yesterday and placed it in cron.daily [18:29] and now i don't know when or how it'll run [18:31] basically, the script is #! /bin/bash/ with sudo apt-get update/upgrade/autoremove/autoclean with the -y option [18:31] Is it possible to make an script that automaticly logs into a server trough ssh? [18:31] that probably isn't really a good idea, but if you really wanted to do that, there are already things that do that [18:31] see apticron [18:32] Slonkie: usually if you want automatic ssh logins, then you setup ssh keys [18:32] Slonkie: do a search for 'ssh key based authentication' you'll see lots of useful tutorials [18:34] Slonkie, I use ssh-installkeys for stuff like that [18:34] I'm not sure if that works when i'm using ssh as proxy? [18:40] what do you mean ssh as a proxy? Are you talking about port forwarding? Key-based authentication should work almost everywhere [18:46] an ssh tunnel as proxy zoredache [18:46] ssh tunnel works as socks 5 proxy :) [18:47] how are you creating your tunnel? Are you running a script each time you login? You might also want to look at installing gstm and thing autostarting gstm [18:48] !info gstm [18:48] gstm (source: gstm): Gnome SSH Tunnel Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-4 (intrepid), package size 134 kB, installed size 296 kB [18:48] i just log into my server like this: ssh -D -C user@ip [18:53] how do you rebuild the crontab? [18:53] what do you mean rebuild it? [18:53] restore the orignal [18:54] J_Litewski, I believe the original is empty. I could be wrong. [18:54] I posted mine earlier... you could update yours so it is the same as that. I haven't changed mine from the default [18:55] http://pastebin.com/f24e869d2 [18:56] ty zoredache [18:56] woot! The Jaunty netboot installer works today. Thats always a good sign ;) [18:59] bytor4232, could you test something for me? [19:00] could you open a terminal, type xfce4-mixer, then close the mixer using the X, not the close button? [19:01] J_Litewski, what do you mean? [19:02] I'm on 8.10 right this second. [19:02] i want to see if someone other than me is getting a gtk-CRITICAL error in the terminal when you close the mixer using the close button, not the quit button [19:10] Mood: can you search for a pkg for me? [19:10] what's up? [19:10] fortunev: you're not on linux right now? [19:11] I am via freeshells, Not my own xubuntu box [19:11] ah [19:11] what pkg? [19:11] the pkg is tovid [19:11] fortunev, packages.ubuntu.com :) [19:12] that will show me all ubuntu pkgs? [19:12] fortunev: yeah ^ :-) but here you go: tovid - tools for creating video DVDs, VCDs, and SVCD [19:12] You can search for packages in the repo there :) [19:12] !info tovid [19:12] tovid (source: tovid): tools for creating video DVDs, VCDs, and SVCDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.31-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 346 kB, installed size 1584 kB [19:12] ^.^ [19:13] !info alsa-base [19:13] awesome. thanks! [19:13] alsa-base (source: alsa-driver): ALSA driver configuration files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.17.dfsg-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 214 kB, installed size 408 kB [19:13] hii [19:13] !hi [19:13] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [19:13] yay! [19:13] i need some help if its not a bother [19:13] !ask [19:13] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [19:13] :) [19:14] whats a CIDSupplement? [19:15] I'm having issues with blender and wings3d, the entire gui is turned blue! i think it might be a driver issue. I'm trying to install the proprietary driver in hopes that it will fix it. I downloaded linux-restricted-modules but it won't launch. What should I do? [19:16] I have an ibook g4 with a ati radeon mobility 9200 [19:16] That is odd... Do you see any output on the terminal? [19:17] sorry but i'm not too experienced, how would i check that? [19:17] brb, system restart [19:17] tim__, open a terminal window (Applications->Accessories->Terminal), then type "blender" [19:18] (Also, you can't "launch" linux-restricted-modules... You install restricted drivers through Applications->System->Hardware Drivers) [19:18] Compiled with Python version 2.6.1+.Checking for installed Python... got it! [19:18] No errors whatsoever? [19:19] no [19:19] :S [19:19] same in wings3d [19:19] it all works great, its just all blue. [19:20] tim is blender the only appt thats all blue? [19:20] Wings3D as well, apparently [19:20] I don't know what they have in commong [19:21] yeah i tried wings in search of an alternative, but only to find the same problem [19:22] i'm using 9.04 btw [19:22] my unprofessional advice is to install another appt that uses the 3d portion of your vid card like warzone. If that is also all blue I would guess something is up with your vid card [19:23] Also, since it *is* an unstable release, it might be a bug, in which case you should report it [19:23] !bugs [19:23] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [19:23] ok [19:23] how would i reinstall the xfce4-panel via the terminal? [19:23] i will do that [19:23] !panel [19:23] Did you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [19:23] same command in a terminal [19:23] charlie-tca, ah, there's an ubottu entry, great :) [19:24] There was something I'd have liked to see in there this afternoon... [19:24] my panels work, it's just i need to restart them to get the Applications button [19:24] knome knows how to get them in, maybe zoredache too [19:24] Only I can't find what it was... [19:25] ? [19:26] anyone using an intuos4 yet? [19:26] J_Litewski, I suppose killall xfce4-panel && xfce4-panel [19:26] vinnl, thats what i've been doing [19:26] no luck [19:26] Strange... [19:27] should i bite the bullet and remove my config file [19:27] * vinnl off to play Hedgwars [19:27] J_Litewski, you can press Ctrl+Alt+Esc and click on the panel [19:27] J_Litewski: just add the XFCE Menu through 'add to panel' [19:28] Then change the name in Properties to Applications [19:30] well, i think i fixed it [19:30] hopefully [19:31] i just need to configure everything back to what it was [19:58] q [19:59] lol [20:00] is a DeprecationWarning bug worthy? [20:01] J_Litewski: did you update and restart the system? [20:01] saluton [20:01] hello [20:01] hola [20:02] bonjour [20:02] moin moin [20:02] hallo [20:02] kiel vi fartas? [20:02] was ist los? [20:02] rocko: enough [20:02] please stop now [20:02] how are you? [20:02] why? [20:02] this is an all english chanel [20:02]