[00:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:31] <ForgeAus> is there any good dock apps for KDE4?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> depends what you need
[00:33] <ForgeAus> something similar to AWN
[00:33] <ForgeAus> (without having to install half of Gnome to get it to work
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> cairodock, kooldock, kibadock
[00:34] <ForgeAus> kiba? havn't heard of it
[00:35] <unko> hey guys
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !find kiba
[00:35] <unko> im on kubuntu now..
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> http://www.kiba-dock.org/
[00:38] <ForgeAus> uh the wiki only shows up to feisty?...
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> http://wawan-kurniawan.web.id/install-kiba-dock-in-intrepid-ibex/
[01:04] <cuznt> !find furthurnet
[01:21] <RonzO> what is the name of the plasmoid for mounting a USB drive?
[01:23] <picketfence> I am trying to use wget to authorize the public key for cafuego, but it says it is empty. I think I'm typing something wrong. How do I get the key?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> RonzO: device notifier maybe, you could just munt in konsole
[01:25] <RonzO> ActionParsnip: i got it. I install K for a person, and I'm not completely familiar with it. ;) thanks though\
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> np man
[01:25] <cuznt> wget http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[01:26] <cuznt> sorry
[01:26] <picketfence> :cuznt: Thank you.
[01:26] <cuznt> np
[01:27] <picketfence> Another question: I once had options to put my laptop to sleep or standby, but one day they were gone, and I don't know how to get them back.
[01:30] <picketfence> Another question: I once had options to put my laptop to sleep or standby, but one day they were gone, and I don't know how to get them back.
[01:52] <wizardslovak> #ubuntu-server
[02:03] <picketfence> :cuznt: Forgive me, but what was that Key again? I'll write it down this time.
[02:08] <p_quarles> picketfence: yay for logs and grep: wget http://easyubuntu.cafuego.net/969F3F57.gpg -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[02:09] <p_quarles> and boo for people leaving before anyone can answer their question
[02:09] <tsimpson> easyubuntu?
[02:09] <tsimpson> why does that give me shivers?
[02:09] <p_quarles> tsimpson: I dunno; just found the reference in my logs; I take no responsibility for the content
[02:10] <tsimpson> wasn't that the name of that automatix-like evil scripty thing that kills baby animals?
[02:10] <p_quarles> tsimpson: I think that was just easybuntu; no "u" between "y" and "b"
[02:10] <p_quarles> but you might be right
[02:11] <tsimpson> "The aim of this project is to make your (K/X/Ed)Ubuntu machine (Running
[02:11] <tsimpson> on PPC, x86 or x86_64) equipped with commonly requested software, such as
[02:11] <tsimpson> codecs to play MP3's, DVDs, programs for talking over the Internet (VoIP
[02:11] <tsimpson> software), and a selection of other useful programs and applications,
[02:11] <tsimpson> especially those that are otherwise demanding to install and/or obtain."
[02:11] <tsimpson> looks evil to me
[02:13] <cuznt> picketfence all i did was googled it
[02:17] <psyco> hey, not related to ubuntu but you guys are helpful. If I install SME Server, does that let me access my hosted files anywhere over the internet?
[02:18] <riffko> it works like logmein////
[02:20] <psyco> 0.o
[02:21] <riffko> u cant access over the internet, just a intranet
[02:23] <bielefuben> claydoh, (or anyone) do you know when kubuntuforums.net will be back up???
[02:27] <rgarcia> does anybodu know the best win emulator for Linux, because i work w/ autocad, and linux doesn't have..
[02:30] <rgarcia> ???
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> rgarcia- you can use Wine to run some Windows programs. Otherwise you'd probably have to install Windows in a virtual machine
[02:34] <rgarcia> hunpf..i don't like win anymore
[02:34] <bielefuben> Autocad doesn't get great ratings with Wine... depends on the version
[02:35] <rgarcia> 2008
[02:35] <rgarcia> :(
[02:36] <rgarcia> so i have to run  it from win
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> If you have a valid license for Windows, you can run it in a VM. It's gotten pretty easy to do lately
[02:44] <rgarcia> VM???
[02:44] <rgarcia> what is this?
[02:44] <jess> i have no idea
[02:47] <jtholmes> what is the file/command that will list the cpu serial number on a machine?
[02:52] <login_> 09ki
[02:55] <jpsnl1> VM --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine
[03:41] <eliboggs> hello all!
[03:46] <EagleScreen> hello
[04:00] <eliboggs> how is it going>
[04:00] <eliboggs> ?*
[04:04] <JP-sNL> things are pretty slow around here   ;-)
[04:11] <eliboggs> yah, there are. but i was just curious if you guys could answer a question for me?
[04:14] <p_quarles> !ask | eliboggs
[04:17] <JP-sNL> :-)
[04:18] <eliboggs> :)  well i am trying to install nvclock0.8b2 through terminal, i believe i installed it correctly[could be wrong] but when i type in the run command, it does not launch.] im unsure of my next step.
[04:18] <alberto> hola  a todos
[04:18] <alberto> no puedo ver nada  tengo 2  cds
[04:18] <alberto> osea  las  lectoras  no me  cargan   caso   raro
[04:18] <alberto> :S
[04:20] <mrksbrd> !es
[04:23] <eliboggs> what?
[04:23] <mrksbrd> I forget....where is the setting to allow only 2 options during dual boot menu?
[04:23] <mrksbrd> eliboggs: that wasn't for u
[04:24] <eliboggs> okay.
[04:24] <JP-sNL> eliboggs, i guess you'll have to find your error logs
[04:25] <mrksbrd> eliboggs: is this what ur looking for??.... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-175436.html
[04:30] <eliboggs> mrksbrd, thats what i was using. and when i use "nvclock_qt"
[04:30] <eliboggs> i get a failed segmentation fault[sorry, i hit the enter key accidentally]
[04:30] <mogul218> good evening all
[04:31] <mogul218> is there a way for me to choose between kde and gnome at login?  Currenly plain old Ubuntu Jaunty
[04:34] <p_quarles> mogul218: the "session" menu in either KDM or GDM will include both options
[04:35] <p_quarles> mogul218: also, support for Jaunty, until official release, is in #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <mogul218> okey dokey ty for your help
[04:37] <mrksbrd> eliboggs: i never used that so i don't know much about it.  google the exact error your getting see if it comes back with anything
[04:38] <eliboggs> alrighty then. and thanks for your time :) i'll let you know what i come up with.
[04:54] <Korlis> hey all
[04:55] <Korlis> guess no one is home?
[05:06] <JP-sNL> hi
[05:23] <lrpfaria> oi...
[05:23] <JP-sNL> o/
[05:23] <lrpfaria> estou testando o linux... desculpem se atrapalho alguma coisa
[05:25] <lrpfaria> hi... i'm testing linux... i apologize if i am troubleshing anyone
[05:27] <JP-sNL> :-)
[05:27] <thismamacooks200> opengl is not longer working on my system. most apps say: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:46] <jebatamandua> ei
[05:46] <jebatamandua> hi
[05:46] <jebatamandua> ?
[05:46] <aga> morning
[05:46] <jebatamandua> tem alguem ai
[05:46] <jebatamandua> hellow
[05:47] <jebatamandua> oi
[05:47] <jebatamandua> tem alguem ai
[05:47] <aga> !pt
[06:06] <Blendiac> It's quiet in here... too quiet!
[06:06] <p_quarles> Blendiac: it's a support channel; ask away if you have a question; not for general chat though
[06:12] <cornelius13> hi
[06:14] <cornelius13> i'm having trouble installing flash 10 on 64 bit firefox. i'm thinking it has something to do with the fact i force installed flash 9 beta for firefox32
[06:14] <cornelius13> everytime I do an apt-get install firefox-3 (or -2) i get ugly error messages that say the packages are broken
[06:14] <cornelius13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145960/
[06:15] <cornelius13> i'm using the install script from here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[06:15] <cornelius13> but it seems irrelevant until i can get the 64 bit version reinstalled
[06:27] <dwidmann> cornelius13: try this: sudo dpkg --purge firefox-3.0 firefox2
[06:28] <cornelius13> tried it, then i got this: E: Couldn't find package firefox-3
[06:29] <cornelius13> when i tried to apt-get install it again
[06:29] <dwidmann> cornelius13: did you do it to firefox-3 or firefox-3.0?
[06:29] <cornelius13> neither
[06:29] <cornelius13> never installed it
[06:29] <cornelius13> that i recall anyways
[06:29] <dwidmann> cornelius13: and it said that E.... line after you tried to purge it?
[06:30] <cornelius13> i've been using firefox32 with flash 9 beta
[06:30] <cornelius13> no, it purged fine
[06:30] <dwidmann> cornelius13: and after purging did dpkg --configure -a succeed? :D
[06:30] <cornelius13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145972/
[06:31] <cornelius13> yes
[06:31] <dwidmann> cornelius13: of course installing firefox-3 would fail, the package name is firefox-3.0
[06:31] <cornelius13> ah ha
[06:32] <cornelius13> well then clearly i'm a turd
[06:32] <cornelius13> bah
[06:32] <cornelius13> that failed too
[06:32] <dwidmann> really? It shouldn't :\
[06:33] <cornelius13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145973/
[06:33] <cornelius13> something screwy with /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1_amd64.deb
[06:33] <dwidmann> cornelius13: maybe it's conflicting with firefox32? It's possible
[06:34] <cornelius13> dwidmann: i agree, but i don't know how to fix that
[06:34] <cornelius13> if i uninstall firefox32 will i lose my bookmarks?
[06:34] <dwidmann> cornelius13: bookmarks should be safe
[06:34] <dwidmann> cornelius13: they're in a config folder in your home dir
[06:35] <cornelius13> k
[06:35] <cornelius13> hmm
[06:35] <cornelius13> apt-get remove firefox32 isn't working either
[06:36] <dwidmann> cornelius13: and the error for it?
[06:37] <dwidmann> Small note ... a 32-bit browser shouldn't be required for Flash anymore (which is now version 10, not 9beta) ... java plugin is another story though
[06:37] <cornelius13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145975/
[06:37] <cornelius13> i know
[06:38] <cornelius13> i did it a long long time ago
[06:38] <dwidmann> Thought I'd point that out just in case (I've been along for the ride for years too)
[06:39] <cornelius13> ya i just heard of flash 10 like a few days ago
[06:39] <cornelius13> and firefox has been crashing so much due to flash lately that i can't wait to upgrade
[06:39] <dwidmann> try this: sudo dpkg --remove firefox-3.0 xulrunner-1.9
[06:40] <dwidmann> I wish you luck on that (I'm not sure how stable it is ... Opera is treating me fairly okay though)
[06:40] <cornelius13> bah
[06:41] <cornelius13> well i removed firefox32
[06:41] <dwidmann> without errors this time I hope?
[06:41] <cornelius13> yeah that worked
[06:41] <cornelius13> but installing 3.0 didn't
[06:42] <dwidmann> There might be more things that you need to remove for it to happen
[06:44] <dwidmann> Remove the package(s) that it's conflicting with, then attempt the install again, if it errors again then repeat
[06:44] <cornelius13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145979/
[06:44] <cornelius13> it's xulrunner
[06:45] <cornelius13> maybe i got the package name wrong
[06:45] <dwidmann> remove j2re1.4
[06:46] <dwidmann> (it's kind of ancient anyway ... what with java 1.6 being the current, and 1.7 hopefully not too far off)
[06:46] <cornelius13> geez
[06:47] <cornelius13> ever since my troubles with my nvidia drivers i've tried to avoid updates unless absolutely necessary
[06:47] <cornelius13> score!
[06:47] <cornelius13> i think that did it
[06:48] <neptunepink> coi prenu, I've apt-get source'd a program, how do I apply the patch? Or do I not need to?
[06:48] <cornelius13> yep
[06:51] <neptunepink> oh, lovely, it even says it applied it....
[06:54] <cornelius13> goody, that flash install script worked fine
[06:54] <cornelius13> thanks for the help dwidmann
[07:41] <pteague> any idea how long until jaunty is officially out?
[07:41] <jussi01> 23rd
[07:51] <yannick__> Google Earth doesn't start
[07:52] <coffee|_|D> hey yannick
[07:52] <coffee|_|D> hmm
[07:52] <yannick__> hi cooffel
[07:52] <coffee|_|D> do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[07:52] <yannick__> yes
[07:52] <coffee|_|D> for your vid card?
[07:52] <coffee|_|D> k
[07:53] <yannick__> yes
[07:53] <coffee|_|D> nvidia?
[07:53] <yannick__> geforce^^
[07:53] <coffee|_|D> 173 or 177
[07:54] <yannick__> 6600GT
[08:04] <gohmifune> how do I get strigi working
[08:08] <gohmifune> does anyone even use strigi?
[08:20] <pteague> hmm... i realize jaunty isn't official yet... any idea how stable the current beta is?
[08:22] <coffee|_|D> probabley best to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:36] <noaXess> is there another tool like ktranslater?
[09:39] <noaXess> !info ktranslator
[09:41] <Mamarok> noaXess: there also is localize
[09:41] <noaXess> !info localize
[09:41] <Mamarok> ok...
[09:42] <noaXess> or is there a kde4 widget, to translate and selected text in any app? like babylon for $ windows
[09:43] <Mamarok> noaXess: there is the Translator widget
[09:43] <Mamarok> it uses Google translator
[09:44] <noaXess> in which package is it?
[09:46] <Mamarok> noaXess: plasma-widget-translatoid
[09:46] <noaXess> Mamarok: don't have that one :( is it in a spec. repo?
[09:47] <Mamarok> wiat, I'll check
[09:49] <Mamarok> for me it's in universe, but I have Jaunty
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | Mamarok
[09:49] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: hey, I don't look for support :)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: :D
[09:50] <Mamarok> noaXess: you might check in kde-apps.org
[09:50] <Mamarok> if it's not in your repos
[09:50] <noaXess> hm.. think it's not for intrepid
[09:51] <Mamarok> noaXess: I'm checking
[09:51] <noaXess> me too :)
[09:51] <Mamarok> right, seems not to be in Intrepid actually, do you have KDE 4.1.4?
[09:52] <Mamarok> (forget the second part of my sentence, not relevant)
[09:53] <noaXess> Mamarok: have 4.2.2
[09:54] <Mamarok> noaXess: found it in kde-look.org
[09:54] <Mamarok> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/translatoid?content=97511
[09:55] <noaXess> Mamarok: ok.. thanks..
[09:59] <noaXess> ok.. i will wait for jaunty 9.04 release
[09:59] <noaXess> :)
[09:59] <Mamarok> only a few days left anyway :)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok: hasnt it been pushed to august?
[10:03] <Mamarok> ActionParsnip: ;)
[10:13] <xsacha> hi
[10:14] <xsacha> anyone know how to convert PDBs to DX files in kubuntu?
[10:28] <ibrar> anybody can help me installing  BCM4315 Wlan adapter in my ubuntu
[10:28] <naught101> what is the deb package that supplies the battery monitor widget called?
[10:29] <naught101> ibrar: tried installing and running b43-fwcutter?
[10:29] <ibrar> not availe in my apt-get
[10:30] <naught101> have you got all the repos enabled, and have you updated?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeNaRaY64Os&feature=related
[10:31] <ibrar> Ok I have done installing this
[10:31] <ibrar> What next
[10:32] <naught101> ibrar: did it ask you to download the drivers when it installed?
[10:32] <ibrar> it just download things and install it
[10:33] <ibrar> I think yes
[10:33] <ibrar> broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/
[10:33] <ibrar> ...
[10:33] <naught101> it should work now, with networkmanager. if not, run "sudo b43-fwcutter"
[10:36] <ibrar> sudo b43-fwcutter
[10:36] <ibrar> gives help
[10:36] <ibrar> > b43-fwcutter version 011
[10:36] <ibrar> > A tool to extract firmware for a Broadcom 43xx device
[10:36] <ibrar> > from a proprietary Broadcom 43xx device driver file.
[10:36] <ibrar> ...
[10:40] <ibrar> ??
[10:40] <ibrar> naught101:
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[11:17] <xz_> 这是什么东西？聊天的？
[11:17] <almoxarifado-2> hello,peoples
[11:18] <xz_> hi
[11:18] <almoxarifado-2> girl???
[11:18] <xz_> boy!
[11:19] <matepaco> Hi!
[11:21] <mkargar_> hello!how to install latest version of vlc(0.9.9) in kubuntu 8.10 from repo?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: kdesuo update-manager-kde -d
[11:24] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:whats this command?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: yep
[11:24] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:whats this command?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: it will upgrade you from intrepid to jaunty
[11:25] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:i wont upgrade to jauntry!i want install vlc 0.9.9 in kubuntu 8.10!?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> oic
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: 64bit or 32bit linux?
[11:27] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:64bit !
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: you can use the nightlies at http://nightlies.videolan.org/#debian
[11:29] <ubuntu> hey, can anyone else get OpenDX working on kubuntu? whenever i run it and try to add a component to the workspace, nothing appears
[11:29] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:it doesnt work!!
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: can you expand on "doesnt work" please
[11:31] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:it repo is down!
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: theres no need for the ! every line
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> mkargar_: try those ppa repos in this post, it looks like it has vlc 0.9.9 in
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=303464
[11:35] <mkargar_> ActionParsnip:ok
[11:43] <fcppf> Hi! I just want to minimize kjots (like amarok or konversation etc), but i dont know how... (kde 3.5.10
[11:50] <vishesh> Hi !! Something really weird happend. I was updating kde via adept and they were someupdates I really didn't see what they were. Once certain things got updated I got a message that kdm will need to be restarted. So would you like to do that right now - I click yes. And kdm restarted and then I got a terminal login screen I restated and then I get the gnome logic screen and it says it can't find kde.. all the kde software except for konsversation have
[11:50] <vishesh> disapeared as well !! And when I try to reinstall kubuntu it says broken dependencies .. cannot install. Any idea whats going on ? Sorry for really long message.
[11:50] <Gabrielsk8> hello, peoples
[11:51] <shlunk> hi all - i'm having some trouble with a new install of kubuntu
[11:52] <shlunk> i enabled desktop effects, and now all i have is a black screen with some grey windows
[11:52] <shlunk> even after restarting the machine
[11:52] <shlunk> is there anyway of booting into text mode and editing the settings manually?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: have you installed video drivers? are you fully updated
[11:53] <shlunk> fully updated, but i hadn't installed the drivers - i have a radeon 4870
[11:53] <the_dark_warrio> I've done the last update for Kubuntu 9.04 Beta, and grub have striped off the windows entry. Any hints?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: for text mode, hit enter at grub and select recovery mode for your kernel, you can then drop to root console and repair from there, or even make a new user and boot to that
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: d'oh
[11:54] <amik> hi, I've got a problem where desktop effects make the pc totally unusable (stuck), how do I start going about diagnosing and fixing this?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: i think if you rename your users ~/.kde folder and reboot it will be ok
[11:54] <shlunk> brilliant, than you
[11:54] <shlunk> *thank
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: if its still bad, rename back
[11:56] <shlunk> okeydoke, just renamed and rebooting now
[11:56] <shlunk> do you know where i can get the ati drivers for my card from?
[11:57] <shlunk> i have envy installed already
[11:58] <amik> any thoughts? anyone?
[11:58] <vishesh> Anyone ? Come on ..
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: what video card?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> shlunk: envy isnt a good choice
[11:59] <shlunk> it's a radeon 4870
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !ati | shlunk
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> amik: can you launch a terminal and read logs like dmesg?
[12:01] <ibrar> I cannot find kscope using apt-get in 9.04
[12:03] <ibrar> ?
[12:04] <ibrar> Whenever I run apt-get i get error
[12:04] <ibrar> >  Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup ...
[12:04] <ibrar> >    /etc/rc1.d/K20hotkey-setup
[12:04] <ibrar> >    /etc/rc2.d/S20hotkey-setup
[12:04] <ibrar> >    /etc/rc3.d/S20hotkey-setup
[12:04] <ibrar> >    /etc/rc4.d/S20hotkey-setup
[12:04] <ibrar> >    /etc/rc5.d/S20hotkey-setup
[12:04] <ibrar> > /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup: 47: Syntax error: ";;" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[12:05] <amik> ActionParsnip: what am I looking for? (I'm after a reboot without desktop effects right now - would I still see errors from previous boots?)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> amik: the logs are cleared after reboot, install openssh-server and when it crashes, ssh in from another system to read logs to find out whats going on
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> amik: make sure you are fully up to date with: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:08] <amik> ActionParsnip: I am - I even did the upgrade to jaunty beta hoping it is fixed in the latest nvidia drivers and/or whatever is broken. now I can't revert back to 177 drivers since they don't exist in jaunty
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> amik: you could try the ones from www.nvidia.com
[12:13] <amik> ActionParsnip: it's the same version as in jaunty (180.44) - the latest.
[12:13] <amik> ActionParsnip: btw, thanks for trying to help :-)
[12:13] <ibrar> How to install kscope
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> amik: i had an issue with my nvdia in a clean jaunty install, i had to install intrepid then upgrade to get a full screen res
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !info kscope
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ibrar: sudo apt-get install kscope
[12:14] <xp-killer> since i upgrade koueror telling me i dont have the proper flash to view the streaming videos.flash plugin noon free install
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:16] <amik> ActionParsnip: I've done an interpid upgrade to jaunty as well. there's no problem with resolution - the whole machine just freezes when it starts up (only hard reboot helps). occasionally it allows a tiny bit of mouse movement at a time. sometimes parts of the screen go black. sometimes the mouse moves ok but nothing responds other than that. it's quite unstable and totally unusable.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: then close all konquerors and rerun it
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> amik: then i'd ssh in to see whats shakin
[12:17] <amik> ActionParsnip: to be exact it freezes after the login screen when the kde desktop shows up
[12:18] <amik> ActionParsnip: I'll try that. so I just do dmesg and look for something funny?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> amik: use dmesg | less
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> amik: also read /var/log/xorg.log.0  ( ithink its that)
[12:18] <ibrar> Actionparsnip: I did it for 810 and it works but not in 9.04
[12:18] <shlunk> still having no joy with the ati drivers here..
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty > ibrar
[12:19] <shlunk> ubottu: the link you sent me uses an executable that doesn't run on my machine
[12:19] <shlunk> ah.
[12:20] <amik> ActionParsnip: one other thing - a couple of times I got a message that compositing is taking up too much cpu and will be disabled automatically - after which the system was sort of usable (with unrefreshed display here and there) - that's how I realized I should try turning off desktop effects, which indeed solved the problem (but with no desktop effects, of course)
[12:21] <ibrar> Actionparsnip: Yes beta
[12:21] <xp-killer> ActionParsnip: i still cant read see the videos it saying need to update flash player
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: i'm unsure how konqueror handles flash,
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> xp-killer: 32bit or 64bit linux?
[12:25] <amik> ActionParsnip: thanks again, I'll try narrowing it down some more
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> why does firefox have to hook in with all the gtk deps, it makes the install about 100Mb
[12:45] <reagleBRKLN> does this web page jam anyone else's konqie 4.2.2? http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intelG965/
[12:54] <Idhan_> is there any faster way to transfer two files than with ssh?
[12:55] <frogonwheels> Idhan_:  possibly - depends what services you are running I guess.  rsync might do a better job?
[12:55] <frogonwheels> Idhan_:  you can always compress beforeyou send?
[12:56] <kubusfr> everythin running ok on a dell inspiron but kubuntu freezes randomly. please help!
[12:57] <Idhan_> frogonwheels: compress will not make the different, because the files are movies..
[12:59] <shlunk> for ati gfx cards, is it better to use the drivers form the ati site, or the open source drivers?
[12:59] <Idhan_> frogonwheels: have rsync a GUI?
[13:00] <shlunk> anyone?
[13:04] <frogonwheels> shlunk: I think it depends.  I use the open source drivers
[13:04] <frogonwheels> .. generally they work fine.
[13:04] <frogonwheels> I'm having an issue - but I believe it'sa kubuntu packaging issue.
[13:04] <frogonwheels> (anyone help with this?:  AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context)?
[13:07] <MarkieMark1> !listkeys *
[13:12] <MarkieMark1> !anybody
[13:15] <lokai> KiB = kilobytes, right? (I'm looking at the bmon graphical display)
[13:15] <MarkieMark1> Binary kilobytes = 2^10 bytes
[13:15] <MarkieMark1> as compared to KB = decimal
[13:15] <MarkieMark1> officially
[13:16] <lokai> Well. From experience, I know that my upstream bandwidth is around 20 kilobytes/sec. But, bmon is saying that I'm uploading at around 60+KiB/sec
[13:16] <lokai> That doesn't make sense, does it?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> you can use Ko if you wanna look smart, MarkieMark1
[13:16] <MarkieMark1> ActionParsnip: I have to occasionally, I'm in France :)
[13:18] <lokai> So, it looks like bmon uses "KiB" to mean kilobits.
[13:18] <lokai> grr.
[13:21] <satish> i want to install realplayer i hv downloaded  .bin file
[13:21] <satish> i fet followin error
[13:22] <satish> satish@ubuntu:~$ cd /media/25
[13:22] <satish> satish@ubuntu:/media/25$ sh RealPlayer11GOLD.bin
[13:22] <satish> RealPlayer11GOLD.bin: 6: 4?~4: not found
[13:22] <satish> RealPlayer11GOLD.bin: 6: ELF: not found
[13:22] <satish> RealPlayer11GOLD.bin: 7: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[13:22] <satish> satish@ubuntu:/media/25$
[13:23] <satish> help
[13:24] <rafael> alguem do brasil?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> satish: use pastebin for large pastes like that please
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> !paste | satish
[13:25] <Jampiter> Hi
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> satish: did you run: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[13:25] <Jampiter> How do I set different wallpapers for different desktops in KDE4.2?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Jampiter: you can but you will not be able to have desktop icons
[13:26] <Jampiter> I never use them anyway
[13:26] <Jampiter> How then?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Jampiter: http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/
[13:29] <Jason_CO> hi folks - -need a bit of helps sharing files on my kubuntu workstation with a windows workstation on the same network
[13:29] <Jason_CO> im looking at http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html
[13:29] <Jason_CO> but am hitting a bump on step 2 under the second heading - -when i click on sharing there is not file sharing to click on
[13:30] <Jampiter> Thanks ActionParsnip :)
[13:30] <tangtang> hey everyone !
[13:30] <Jason_CO> nor does it give me administrative mode to go into
[13:31] <tangtang> may you help me driver for D-link DWA 120 ?
[13:36] <noren> hi all
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: is it usb or pci?
[13:41] <tangtang> usb
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: run lsusb in konsole and give us the INGLE line that identifies the device
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 07d1:3a0d D-Link System DWA-120 Wireless 108G Adapter
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:44] <tangtang> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[13:44] <tangtang> is that ?
[13:53] <tangtang> ActionParsnip, which drivers can I use for my system?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: websearch for 07d1:3a0d
[14:13] <tangtang_> thanks to ActionParsnip!
[14:22] <tangtang_> I have another problem : when I install Ubuntu 8.10, I has created file system disk about 7GB and now I want to expand my file system to 15GB without install again . How I would do ?
[14:23] <noren__> tangtang_: get the gparted u can use that
[14:26] <tangtang_> Can you explain what's step?
[14:37] <tangtang_> I juist install gpart, is the soft you advice to me ?
[14:38] <tangtang_> How i can working with it ?
[14:39] <ibrar> any body using eclips for C++
[14:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:44] <yaa_> hi
[14:44] <yaa_> evening
[14:54] <tangtang__> How to use gpart to partition disk, help me please?
[15:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Can someone help me on this:
[15:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> vincenzo@vincenzo-laptop:~$ amarok Desktop/jamendo-playlist.m3u -a
[15:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Amarok is already running!
[15:02] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Indeed it is already running: I want it to enqueue tracks!
[15:02] <Zengol> Has anyone had a problem with theyre desktop disappearing?
[15:03] <Le-Chuck_ITA> there exists a #amarok channel :) asking there first
[15:05] <Zengol> Nvm, i found it.
[15:09] <Zengol> 9.04 run's kinda crummy...
[15:09] <QuiLLo_29> Anyone knows is a USB with a malware Autorun.inf can autorun when inserted on linux?
[15:09] <doleyb> QuiLLo_29: maybe if you try hard you can get wine to run it
[15:10] <QuiLLo_29> lmao
[15:10] <QuiLLo_29> so .inf files are only from win
[15:10] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I think I've seen an autorun dialog asking me to run stuff with wine from a usb stick
[15:11] <QuiLLo_29> but you double clicked it?
[15:11] <QuiLLo_29> or just by inserting the media?
[15:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I think it was by inserting the media but I typically use gnome so I'm not sure these things are done in the same way in the two environments
[15:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> however wine is not installed by default in ubuntu or kubuntu
[15:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dunno I don't have anymore autorun.infernals in my usb sticks
[15:14] <Le-Chuck_ITA> :)
[15:16] <tangtang__> i think .inf is supported by ndiswrapper
[15:16] <Gabriel> Hi
[15:17] <tangtang__> if you want to install for driver
[15:18] <Gabriel> Is there anyone here who speaks Portuguese???
[15:18] <ante__> How do I tell what kubuntu version I'm running? All intructions are for 7.10 or 8.04 or something else. Since uname -a don't say...
[15:21] <tsimpson> !pt | Gabriel
[15:21] <tsimpson> ante_: lsb_release -a
[15:23] <Gabriel> ok,thank
[15:24] <ante_> tsimpson: wut?
[15:24] <ante__> Many thanks tsimpson!
[15:24] <ante_> ahh
[15:28] <victor__> hi! how can i update ubuntu 8.11 to ubuntu 9.4?
[15:29] <puesto16> hola a todos
[15:29] <victor__> puesto16:  Hola!
[15:29] <victor__> este canal es en inglés
[15:30] <etfb> !es
[15:30] <Pici> !es
[15:30] <ethiotech>  ptrace: umoven: Input/output error ptrace: umoven: Input/output error ...
[15:30] <etfb> Pici: snap!
[15:31] <ethiotech> any idea why I get this when using strace to run an application
[15:31] <etfb> This is weird.  Adept Updater is downloading kernal images for 2.6.24-23-generic, but I've already got that.  What gives?
[15:33] <bruno__> alguem q m ajude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:34] <bruno__> HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP
[15:34] <BluesKaj> etfb, upgrades maybe
[15:35] <Unksi> !pt | bruno__
[15:35] <etfb> BluesKaj: Without changing the version number?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:38] <etfb> BluesKaj: Strange.  Well, I guess I can hope it will be a slight improvement.  I've been deeply irritated with the way my laptop handles hibernate/suspend.  Also, it crashes approx two minutes atfer resuming from hibernation, or when I use Kaffeine.  Bloody broken video drivers I guess, but maybe a kernel bump will help.
[15:39] <ante__> ok, so how do I *really* do to get java working? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats just don't work, at all. I need a Java plugin in my browser. AMD64 Kubuntu 8.04
[15:40] <BluesKaj> which browser ?
[15:40] <ante__> Firefox2
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok which kubuntu distro , must be an older version
[15:42] <BluesKaj> FF 3 is available and works well, ante_
[15:42] <ante__> I don't know much, since I didn't installed it. lsb_release -a said 8.04
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ff3 will run on it
[15:43] <BluesKaj> that might solve your problem
[15:43] <ante__> I saw a zillion different guesses in the forums and some semed to indicate that Flash10 wont work on FF3/amd64
[15:43] <ante__> I'd prefer to have both Flash10 and java plugin
[15:43] <BluesKaj> amd64 OS ?
[15:43] <ante__> yes
[15:44] <ante__> Considering how easy it is to by 32 bit systems today I'm flabbergasted that it could even be an issue!
[15:44] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure but if you install ia32 , it might help you run 32 bit versions of FF and java
[15:45] <ante__> You suggest reinstalling the system all 32 bit?!
[15:45] <BluesKaj> no, ia32 let's you run 32 bit versions on 64
[15:46] <ante__> ok
[15:46] <ante__> is that a package?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:47] <ante__> ok, there seems to be a 32 bit package, and a 32 bit java. Is there ar 32 bit FF as well?
[15:48] <Guest80342> Hello Everbody!
[15:49] <Guest80342> Anyone else running Kubuntu 8.10 64 bit with KDE4.1
[15:49] <Guest80342> ?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ante_ I could be mistaken about amd systems ia32 seems to be for Intel cpus..sorry :(
[15:49] <Guest80342> For the life of me. i cannot figure out how to auto  hide the taskbar. It's possible it's not implemented.
[15:50] <Unksi> BluesKaj: it will work with amd etc as well
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Unksi, arew you sure ?
[15:50] <Unksi> yes
[15:51] <BluesKaj> I have an amd 64 system too , but I run 32 bit , due to those very issues with flash and java
[15:51] <Eruaran> Does 32bit work ok on AMD64 ?
[15:52] <Eruaran> Athlon64 ?
[15:52] <Guest80342> I considered sticking with a 32 bit distro, but I got this dual core 4200 64 bit processor for free.
[15:52] <Unksi> Eruaran: yes
[15:52] <Guest80342> Yes Athlon 64 - 4200.
[15:52] <ante__> Good grief.
[15:53] <Eruaran> I'm going to install kubuntu for someone and its just that if I have to download again I might blow my download limit :P
[15:53] <Guest80342> I have a deal with this junk yard guy near me. I give him tech support and he lets me go through the piles of PCs he gets.
[15:53] <Eruaran> Guest80342: sweet
[15:53] <Guest80342> I am getting 3 gig systems.
[15:54] <Guest80342> a couple 256 meg video cards.
[15:54] <ante__> So even though you can't buy 32-bit systems, it's the way to get flash and java to work!? No wonder peole run Windows...
[15:54] <Unksi> flash works on 64bit straight away on ubuntu
[15:54] <Guest80342> I have been playing aroudn with this box for a while. I have almost everything to my satisfaction.
[15:54] <Eruaran> ante_: I don't believe that is the case
[15:54] <Unksi> java does not
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Eruaran, like I just said 32bit kubuntu runs fine on 64 bit amd
[15:55] <Guest80342> Flash works in Firefox.
[15:55] <Eruaran> BluesKaj: ty
[15:55] <Guest80342> Just cannot get the damn taskbar to drop outa site.
[15:55] <Unksi> ante__: 32bit works well with 64bit hardware :)
[15:55] <Unksi> and on windows, most software is only 32bit anyway, even if you run 64bit version of windows
[15:55] <Guest80342> Oh, and maybe doesn't play DVD's yet.
[15:55] <Guest80342> I have been sticking with Linux mint for a long time now.
[15:56] <Guest80342> It's a breath of fresh air when right after doing a Linux mint install, a DVD plays with no probs.
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Unksi , yes on gnome , but there are probs with flash on 64bit cpus running kde
[15:56] <Eruaran> I had a customer today who wanted to switch his Vista system to 32bit Vista becuase his wireless ISP did not provide 64bit drivers (and neither did the manufacturer).
[15:56] <Unksi> BluesKaj: hmm? works well here
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Unksi, gnome or kde ?
[15:57] <Unksi> kde
[15:57] <Eruaran> So its not like lack of 64bit support affects Linux only
[15:57] <Unksi> havent used gnome since breezy :p
[15:57] <ante__> So java don'
[15:57] <Guest80342> I wonder if it's not too late to go to KDE 3.5.9 or whatever it is.
[15:57] <ante__> So java don't work on 64 bit, but flash does?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> which distro , Unksi ?
[15:58] <Unksi> ante__: yes
[15:58] <Unksi> BluesKaj: sidux and kubuntu intrepid
[15:58]  * ante__ sighs
[15:58] <ante_> ah, stop hilighting me
[15:58] <Guest80342> I might download Debian and do a install. Just to see what it's like.
[15:59] <Guest80342> I am a member of the Fort Worth Linux Users Group.
[15:59] <Guest80342> FWLUG.org
[15:59] <ante_> Debian is fukken win
[15:59] <BluesKaj> which graphics card, Unksi ..I'm curious because I'm running nvidia geforde 7600GT
[15:59] <BluesKaj> geforce
[15:59] <Unksi> BluesKaj: with intrepid, geforce 8400m
[16:00] <Guest80342> I have a 6200 Le which is working ok.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> on 64bit , Guest80342 ?
[16:00] <Guest80342> But I have tons of 32 meg nvidia cards that seem to do compiz fine.
[16:00] <Eruaran> With 64-bit you can still run 32-bit programs that are unavailable in 64-bit like Skype and Google Earth, and there are 64-bit Flash/Java out now that work nicely. Personally I find there is nothing holding anyone back from going 64-bit if their computer is capable.
[16:01] <Guest80342> yes sir eee. BluesKaj
[16:01] <Guest80342> Even do the wobbly windows.
[16:01] <Guest80342> I have even passed out a few free boxes to people in the group.
[16:02] <Guest37760> I have 3 partitions fat32 i want to make them to be automounted when i start the system how i do this?
[16:02] <Guest80342> The problem with Debian, I'll have to figure out what and how to install everything you need. Like flash, and MP3 player, and DVD decryption, and what else i don't know.
[16:03] <Guest80342> I have done them all here and there. Some time ago. But with Linux mint adding all the prprietary stuff. Was alot easier.
[16:05] <Guest80342> So, anyone have an idea on how to autohide a taskbar in KDE 4.1?
[16:06] <Guest37760>  I have 3 partitions fat32 i want to make them to be automounted when i start the system how i do this?
[16:07] <ante__> Eruaran: Where do I find that 64 bit Java?
[16:08] <Eruaran> ante_: I posted that from the ubuntu forums... the 32bit one works fine on 64bit ubuntu/kubuntu aparrently
[16:09] <Eruaran> Guest37760: yes, upgrade to 4.2 ;)
[16:11] <ante__> Eruaran: Do you have a link? The forum is filled with questions about java and 32/64 bit and little of it works and makes sense
[16:13] <Eruaran> ante_: yes i read it here: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1098707
[16:13] <BluesKaj> ante_, I suggest you upgrade your FF browser to the latest one
[16:13] <LjL> Ubotwo: part
[16:16] <ante__> I'll take a look at that link, and see if a newer FF works better. Thanks for the suggestions, much appreciated.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> crash!
[16:32] <BluesKaj> !es
[16:34] <BentFranklin> I have an 8.10 system that became unstable a few hours ago.  It dropped all NX connections and wouldn't reconnect.  I went ot it physically and was able to reconnect to NX at 127.0.0.1 and save my emacs session.  Then I rebooted several times and it always hangs on "Configuring network interfaces..."  How can I get past that to check my log files and/or fix the problem?
[16:46] <victor__> alguien me lee?
[16:47] <fosco__> !es | victor__
[16:47] <Pici> !es
[16:48] <compilerwriter> I know this is a serious mistake to make permanently, but for the sake of testing something temporarily besides sudo passwd root how does one go about allowing root to have gui login?
[16:49] <fosco__> compilerwriter, you'd better skip that, there are several alternatives to login as root
[16:49] <Dragnslcr> compilerwriter- you should be able to become root from a shell and then start X manually
[16:50] <compilerwriter> I know.  I am currently testing a program that needs root to have a gui.  I will disable the account once the test is completely
[16:50] <compilerwriter> ok.
[16:50] <Dragnslcr> Dunno if just doing startx will work correctly or not
[16:50] <fosco__> a "root GUI" doesn't need login as root nor starting X as root
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> If it's a single program that needs root, you can start it with kdesudo
[16:51] <compilerwriter> That is what will be tried next.
[16:51] <compilerwriter> thanks dragnslcr
[16:53] <compilerwriter> running startx did not work well guys.
[16:53] <yaa_> what s the difference between ls and dir
[16:53] <compilerwriter> Is there a way to get kdm to allow such thing temporarily?
[16:55] <wedgeV> hi, i'm trying to install kde 4.2.2 but get some unavailable package errors, i.e.: libstreams0 and libstreamanalyzer are not available
[16:56] <compilerwriter> fosco__ is there a way to get kdm to allow such a login?  Beleive me, I will reverse course later.
[16:57] <fosco__> yes, but i will not help to damage your system
[16:57] <fosco__> use sudo program or sudo -i to get a root shell
[16:57] <fosco__> do not login as root
[16:58] <Dragnslcr> yaa_- ls lists all of the files and directories within a directory. dir is not a Linux command
[16:58] <compilerwriter> Fosco__ I promise I will put it all back to the way it was.  I just need to do this for a few minutes.
[16:58] <yaa_> man dir
[16:59] <ante__> For those who care, FF3 vomits with 64 bit java plugin
[16:59] <Zengol> Could someone tell me the command line to check if i have DRI enabled?
[16:59] <ante__> FF2 smiles and shows an empty box
[16:59] <fosco__> !root
[16:59] <Dragnslcr> compilerwriter- didn't you say it was just one program that needed root permission?
[16:59] <yaa_> dir IS a linux command in my ubuntu))
[17:00] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I wonder when that happened
[17:00] <compilerwriter> yes dragnslcr there is one program at moment but it wants me utilizing it as root with gui.
[17:00] <Dragnslcr> compilerwriter- then run it with kdesudo
[17:00] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need to have X or KDE running as a root for a single program
[17:01] <Dragnslcr> If you do, I would avoid that program at all costs
[17:01] <BentFranklin> I have an 8.10 system that became unstable a few hours ago.  It dropped all NX connections and wouldn't reconnect.  I went to it physically and was able to reconnect to NX at 127.0.0.1 and save my emacs session.  Then I rebooted several times and it always hangs on "Configuring network interfaces..."  How can I get past that to check my log files and/or fix the problem?
[17:02] <Dragnslcr> yaa_- well that's a new one for me. I've always just used ls. From the man page, it doesn't look like there's a difference
[17:03] <Zengol> What version of Nix is everyone running here?
[17:04] <fosco__> yaa_, dir is an alias for ls
[17:04] <yaa_> which ls  / compare/ whish dir
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> fosco__- they're two different files, not a symlink
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> Or a bash alias
[17:05] <fosco__> ummm it used to be an alias
[17:05] <fosco__> i must be wrong, sorry
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> The binaries are about the same size, though, so they're probably pretty much the same code
[17:06] <yaa_> maybe
[17:06] <Dragnslcr> I didn't think it was a real program, either
[17:06] <donn_> hi all
[17:07] <fosco__> yaa_, anyway, ls options are dir options, so man ls is ok for you
[17:07] <yaa_> ok thanx
[17:08] <Zengol> Could anyone recommend a program to use for editting and formatting partition's?
[17:08] <fosco__> qtparted
[17:08] <Zengol> Ok, thank's.
[17:08] <Zengol> Now for my second question, haha.
[17:09] <Zengol> Is there a complete package that i could install that include's JACK audio, and a couple of it's side program's that will automatically setup for my particular system?
[17:12] <Arminius_> hello
[17:13] <Arminius_> I got some trouble with updating kde to 4.2
[17:13] <Arminius_> I had a look at the howtos and apparently you need to use adept
[17:14] <Arminius_> but when I search for KDE 4.2, I don't get any update...
[17:14] <Arminius_> there is no package that looks like it...
[17:14] <ante__> you have to add a backport repository
[17:14] <Arminius_> thanks... what's that?
[17:14] <ante__> 4.2 is in the next kubundu (whatever it's called)
[17:14] <fosco__> jaunty
[17:15] <ante__> thx
[17:15] <ante__> I have forgottten the url for it
[17:15] <ante__> Let me see if I can find it
[17:15] <Arminius_> I wanted to wait just a little bit with intrepid, and update the kde there
[17:15] <Arminius_> thanks a lot!
[17:16] <Arminius_> and is it normal that I didn't get any notification to update my KDE?
[17:16] <ante__> if the branch is not in your version of kubuntu, I'd say yes
[17:16] <BentFranklin> when is 9.4 due out?
[17:16] <Arminius_> ok
[17:17] <ante__> ok, my sshd isn't answering at my home machine so I can't check the url. Try searching for jaunty backbort repository or something
[17:17] <Arminius_> hem how does that work? I have to add a new source or something like that?
[17:18] <ante__> yes
[17:18] <fosco__> BentFranklin, april 23
[17:18] <Arminius_> ok
[17:18] <ante__> edit /etc/apt/sources or use a GUI
[17:18] <Arminius_> ok thanks :)
[17:19] <ante__> It would be ironic if I manage to help someone after having spent hours not being able to help myself installing a fucking java plugin....
[17:19] <ante__> enjoy!
[17:19] <Arminius_> lol ;)
[17:19] <Guest37760> i want to know the patition sdb1 where does it mounted i have 3 partitions and it doesnt mounted automaticly i want to know where does each partition mounted in|
[17:21] <Arminius_> oh two questions left... I didn't find any wiping programm on Adept... is that normal?
[17:22] <jayhunold> Arminius_: What do you mean with "wiping" ?
[17:22] <Arminius_> well completly erase
[17:22] <ante__> erase your hd? use dd with input from /dev/zero
[17:23] <Arminius_> dd?
[17:23] <ante__> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[17:23] <jayhunold> yes. that is sufficient.
[17:23] <ante__> but adapt hda to your disk
[17:23] <Arminius_> I mean you know when you erase a file, it just dealocates the space on the disk, but you can find it back pretty easily
[17:24] <Arminius_> o
[17:24] <Arminius_> k
[17:24] <Arminius_> thanks :)
[17:24] <ante__> just zeroing the last file erased takes some more work, but I guess it can be done.
[17:25] <Arminius_> but there is no programms like in windows?
[17:25] <Arminius_> nothing like disk redactor
[17:25] <Arminius_> ?
[17:25] <ante__> There probably are. I can't help you there. Sorry.
[17:25] <Arminius_> ok
[17:26] <Arminius_> thanks anyways ;)
[17:27] <donn_> hello, just a question, did anyone heard about a "widget" in kde who talk about the connectivity in live on each eth ?
[17:28] <araceli> estoy probando...
[17:28] <araceli> hooola
[17:28] <donn_> hello
[17:28] <araceli> como  estais
[17:29] <donn_> esta bien i tu ?
[17:29] <Gabriel> hello
[17:29] <Gabriel> peoples
[17:29] <donn_> parla engles porfavor
[17:29] <donn_> hello Gabriel
[17:30] <araceli> fenomenal. estoy empezando en esto del konversation I d'ont speak
[17:31] <Dragnslcr> !es | araceli
[17:31] <araceli> how are you
[17:32] <donn_> whow that's nice ... 'cause I don't speak spanish :D
[17:32] <Gabriel> yes i do;p
[17:33] <Gabriel> where r u from??
[17:33] <donn_> be
[17:33] <Gabriel> yes
[17:34] <Gabriel> donn<<<
[17:34] <donn_> I'm from Belgium
[17:35] <donn_> so ... Spanish isn't my cup of tea
[17:35] <donn_> :)
[17:35] <Gabriel> nice....I'm Brazil!!
[17:36] <donn_> whow ! how it is there ?
[17:36] <donn_> did your ubuntu is given with Sepultura CDs ?
[17:36] <Gabriel> just a minute, please
[17:47] <donn_> is anuone still there to read me ?
[17:47] <donn_> arf anyone
[17:54] <compilerwriter> fosco__ you still here
[17:54] <fosco__> yes
[17:55] <compilerwriter> good Fosco__ I did the sudo passwd root thing earlier now I would like to reverse that action.  I believe I need only do an edit on the etc/passwd file if I am not mistaken.
[17:56] <fosco__> not sure if that action has a roll back
[17:56] <donn_> whow
[17:59] <fosco__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:59] <fosco__> maybe that will help you
[17:59] <compilerwriter> Thanks fosco__
[18:01] <mike1312> I need help! Someone please send your /usr/share/mime/inode folder to mike1312@yandex.ru  Thanks
[18:03] <Gabriel> hi, mike....how r u??
[18:06] <compilerwriter> Thanks fosco__ It was in there.  I knew there was a way to do it, but had forgotten how.
[18:07] <tangtang> hi everyone !
[18:07] <tangtang> please help me !
[18:07] <compilerwriter> !ask > tangtang
[18:08] <tangtang> the numclock, capslock and scroll clock of keyboard don't light
[18:08] <tangtang> I dont' know why
[18:08] <tangtang> and what i should do ?
[18:08] <compilerwriter> Do you get the numlock, caplock and scroll lock functions when you try to use them tangtang?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: do they do what they are supposed to do regardless of the light?
[18:09] <tangtang> when I shutdown I see they light
[18:09] <tangtang> when I restart i don't .
[18:09] <compilerwriter> That is fine tangtang but do they work regardless of the lights?
[18:10] <tangtang> yes, it usually activity !
[18:10] <tangtang> but the light don't activity
[18:11] <tangtang> the numbers good
[18:11] <tangtang> but i don't know why the light don't active
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: are you on a mac by any chance?
[18:11] <compilerwriter> well tangtang I am afraid that I don't know how to solve the problem.  This is one I would put down as an mere annoyance and just know to check that if I were getting spurious characters in my programs.
[18:12] <tangtang> yes, according to you ! How i can solve ?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: is the linux installed on a MAC?
[18:14] <cinco> hi
[18:14] <tangtang> oh no !
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: theres a bug with Mac's and lights
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> tangtang: or are you using a Mac keyboard?
[18:15] <tangtang> I'm using Mitsumi keyboard
[18:17] <yaa_> use piano keyboard
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> bug 218263
[18:17] <Tm_T> yaa_: how useful from you
[18:18] <yaa_> im just joking)
[18:18] <cinco> can anybody help me?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> !ask | cinco
[18:19] <cinco> it's just a question
[18:19] <cinco> may i run reason in ubuntu?
[18:20] <donn_> have a good night everybody
[18:20] <cinco> c ya
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> cinco: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2940
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> cinco: i'd try to find an eqivelant
[18:21] <cinco> like what?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> cinco: no idea, its not something i do
[18:23] <devilsadvocate> hi, if i have a printer shared via bonjour, with some sort of apple wireless router, how can i connect and print to it?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: what's bonjour?
[18:23] <cinco> i can't get ubuntu studio to work proper in my lap top
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> cinco: if you have ubuntu installed you can install the studio stuff ontop of it
[18:24] <devilsadvocate> ActionParsnip, Apple's name for avahi (came before avahi)
[18:25] <tangtang> My num lock , caps lock and scoll lock don't active ! hu hu
[18:25] <cinco> how should i do it?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> cinco: apt-cache search ubuntu studio
[18:26] <cinco> i have ubuntu 8.10 in an acer aspire 4315
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> devilsadvocate: i'd imagine if you use network to browse to the ip of the device you can connect that way, or use CUPS http://localhost:631  and add the printer that way
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> cinco: its the same in all *buntus
[18:28] <cinco> i'm a newbee
[18:28] <cinco> sory
[18:28] <cinco> ....
[18:28] <Mamarok> cinco: check this website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_audio_software
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> cinco: i gave you the command, install what yuo want to use
[18:32] <cinco> like  - sudo apt-get.....?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> cinco: if you run the command I gave you you would see the packages that will give you audio apps or video apps
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> cinco: apt-cache search ubuntu studio
[18:35] <cinco> yes it gave me a list.....
[18:35] <cinco> but i don't know what to do with it
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> cinco: the names on the left are package names, you can apt-get install <package name> to get them
[18:36] <cinco> thanks
[18:36] <Mamarok> cinco: read the wikipedia page I gave you to find the software you need
[18:36] <compilerwriter> Yahoo yagmu works.
[18:36] <Mamarok> then check with the command ActionParsnip gave you to see if it's available
[18:37] <cinco> u r the best
[18:37] <compilerwriter> I can now demonstrate the usage of linux to people who are viewing from mac and XP machines.
[18:37] <Himanshu> @sqlfusion
[18:38] <crash__> someone here who speaks german?
[18:39] <eagles0513875> !de | crash__
[18:39] <Mamarok> crash__: go to #kubuntu-de
[18:39] <crash__> thx
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: you could use vnc over ssh
[18:42] <Mamarok> !fstab
[18:49] <compilerwriter> ActionParsnip vnc over ssh
[18:49] <compilerwriter> would that work with several people at once?
[18:49] <compilerwriter> !vnc > compilerwriter
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: sure as long as your upstream is fast enough, home broadband upstream usually sucks hard
[18:52] <compilerwriter> That is true.  was trying to come up with a solution that xp people and mac folk could just easily download and install.  It would seem that I am the uploading to one server and then it then forwards to all the participants.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: could get a webcam
[19:03] <compilerwriter> true.  yugma works well for what I need it to do.
[19:05] <compilerwriter> my upstream is only like 127k
[19:28] <cdavis> what is a good serial port program for kde?
[19:33] <picketfence> Once again, I have a Komputer that doesn't like a BroadCom wireless card. I need a little help getting it to work again.,
[19:39] <homy> Hello! In dolphin, why are .desktop files displayed with the suffix ".desktop" while in FileView Widget They are displayed without .desktop suffix?
[19:41] <picketfence> Once again, I have a Komputer that doesn't like a BroadCom wireless card. I need a little help getting it to work again.,
[19:42] <yaa_> пыщщщ
[19:46] <yaa_> пссссссссс псссс
[19:46] <Mamarok> yaa_: behave!
[19:47] <yaa_> ?
[19:47] <picketfence> Is anybody available to help me with a small problem?
[19:47] <Mamarok> yaa_: English only please
[19:47] <yaa_> not know
[19:47] <Mamarok> picketfence: sorry, I never used a wireless card
[19:47] <picketfence> Okie
[19:47] <Mamarok> yaa_: what is your language?
[19:48] <yaa_> chukcha
[19:48] <Mamarok> !ru | yaa_
[19:49] <picketfence> Does anyone know where I can go for help with BroadCom Wireless cards?
[19:49] <Mamarok> !wlan
[19:50] <picketfence> Thank you.
[19:50] <Mamarok> picketfence: but be aware that Broadcom is not exactly known for good support
[19:50] <picketfence> Yeah, I figured that out the first time I had to force Kubuntu to behave with it. :-)
[19:55] <picketfence> Relatively stupid question: Is it a bad thing to have more than one module loaded for the same wireless card?
[19:59] <apol_> hi, I am trying to configure an laptop that has an iwlagn-based card and it doesn't have an interruptor for wifi but "dmesg" is saying all the time that is disabled f
[19:59] <apol_> any clue?
[19:59] <apol_> I couldn't find anything related
[20:00] <picketfence> How do I find out what version of Kubuntu I'm using? (Fiesty, Hardy, etc...)
[20:01] <Pici> picketfence: from a terminal: lsb_release -a
[20:03] <picketfence> Ok, so which one does Intrepid work with for purposes of installing certain packages?
[20:05] <picketfence> For example, since I'm trying to get the BroadCom to work, which Ubuntu version do I follow? Apparently I am using Kubuntu Intrepid.
[20:05] <Dragnslcr> You'd follow the instructions for Intrepid
[20:05] <picketfence> The only ones I've seen are for Ubuntu Dapper, fiesty, or Hardy. Nothing for specifically Kubuntu
[20:06] <venik> does anyone know why there is an update or upgrade for Gwenview practically every day?
[20:07] <Dragnslcr> venik- probably because you're never upgrading it (there's currently a package conflict that holds it back)
[20:07] <venik> ahhhh... that makes some sense.  THanks
[20:13] <Arminius_> hi
[20:14] <Arminius_> I've got a problem with the KDE update
[20:15] <Arminius_> ... again ...
[20:15] <aga> what's up?
[20:16] <Arminius_> well I added the source to adept to be able to fetch the new packages
[20:16] <Arminius_> and it finally tells me I got some updates to make
[20:16] <Arminius_> but instead of "upgrade" is automatically chooses remove
[20:16] <Arminius_> for a lot of important packages...!
[20:16] <Arminius_> and I'm afraid to click ok...
[20:17] <aga> hmmm have you checked which packages are going to be removed?
[20:17] <aga> like details?
[20:18] <Arminius_> yeah for example
[20:18] <aga> it may be removing old kde 4.2.1 packages to install 4.2.2 cant you see any installation in between?
[20:18] <Arminius_> ksystemlog: installed -reùpve
[20:18] <Arminius_> remove sorry...
[20:18] <aga> hmmmm
[20:18] <Arminius_> krdc: upgradable-remove
[20:18] <aga> i dunno, really, never upgraded like that
[20:19] <Arminius_> kdebase-workspace-libs4+5: upgradable-remove
[20:19] <Arminius_> etc...
[20:19] <Arminius_> don't you ugrade via adept???
[20:19] <aga> nope
[20:19] <Arminius_> via konsole?
[20:20] <aga> yeap i am used to do it from konsole, is easier and faster for me
[20:20] <Arminius_> and what's the command line for there?
[20:20] <aga> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[20:21] <Arminius_> only aptitude?
[20:21] <aga> same for apt-get
[20:21] <aga> you can also use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:21] <aga> anyway, if adept is telling to remove, bash will tell you to remove
[20:21] <Arminius_> ok and that will upgrade the whole kde
[20:21] <Arminius_> ah
[20:22] <aga> the thing Arminius_ is that i also add the sources from konsole
[20:22] <aga> but the result is the same if you use aptitude
[20:22] <Arminius_> aptitude is what exactly?
[20:23] <aga> aptitude and apt are very similar if not the same
[20:23] <aga> frontends for dpkg if i am not wrong
[20:23] <Arminius_> ok
[20:23] <aga> couldnt really tell the difference
[20:24] <Arminius_> do you think there is anyone here that could tell me with certainty if it's ok to remove all those critical packages?
[20:24] <Arminius_> I just don't want to mess up...
[20:24] <Arminius_> :s
[20:25] <aga> i know.. is hard to say... i normally prefer to use the terminal because i can use pastebin to show whats going on
[20:25] <Arminius_> ah ok
[20:25] <Arminius_> I'll try that way
[20:25] <Arminius_> you are right!
[20:25] <Arminius_> good idea :D
[20:25] <aga> ;)
[20:28] <tomb_> my jaunty refuses to perform upgrades. it complains with: "kdebase-runtime: Depends: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (= 4:4.2.1-0ubuntu2) but 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 is installed"
[20:28] <tomb_> is there something i can do, to make it work?
[20:28] <aga> try in #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[20:28] <aga> they'll help you better
[20:28] <Arminius_> strange konsole apt doesn't ask me to remove anything... yet ^^
[20:33] <aga> Arminius_:  anyway, now that i notice
[20:34] <aga> adept was just telling you the options for that package
[20:34] <aga> upgradable - remove
[20:34] <aga> means you can either upgrade or remove it, because you cannot install it
[20:35] <Arminius_> ok
[20:35] <Arminius_> but when I switched the options, the packages came back to remove
[20:36] <Arminius_> maybe I just lagged or something ^^
[20:36] <aga> hmm no no its just about how adept looks i just checked mine
[20:36] <Arminius_> so I did the right thing not removing ;)
[20:36] <aga> it says in green upgradable or in red remove
[20:37] <Arminius_> yeah I had two things I could check, remove or upgrade
[20:37] <aga> anyway i just use the terminal
[20:37] <aga> its faster for me
[20:37] <Arminius_> yeah
[20:37] <Arminius_> just not used to it yet ;)
[20:38] <Arminius_> new kubuntu user :p
[20:38] <Arminius_> ^^
[20:38] <aga> welcome then Arminius_ :)
[20:39] <Arminius_> yeah about a month :D
[20:39] <Arminius_> ^^
[20:39] <Arminius_> had to battle against a big plasma bug
[20:39] <Arminius_> somehow resolved it ^^
[20:42] <picketfence> Now the Komputer isn't recognizing the Ethernet card at all!  :(
[20:43] <Arminius_> ok update finished, just gonna logout and login to activate it ;)
[20:43] <Arminius_> brb
[20:43] <Salze> Hi! After updating kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data my krunner is quite distorted when displaying results (http://imagebin.ca/view/4-kI1Mt.html). This is after update 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1~intrepid3. What is the best way to solve the problem?
[20:43] <Arminius_> bye ^^
[20:50] <ubuntu> hey
[20:50] <picketfence> Now the Komputer isn't recognizing the Ethernet card at all!  :(
[20:50] <ubuntu> lol
[20:51] <picketfence> Would I have to do a complete reinstall of Kubuntu to get things back on track?
[20:51] <ubuntu> try live cd
[20:51] <AimoParru> hello all!
[20:51] <ubuntu> hi
[20:51] <picketfence> :ubuntu: Thank you, I didn't think of that.
[20:51] <AimoParru> apt-get autoremove took my all kernel images away
[20:51] <ubuntu> what
[20:52] <ubuntu> oh
[20:52] <ubuntu> n[
[20:52] <AimoParru> is there anyt way how to get the images back
[20:52] <ubuntu> np*
[20:53] <ubuntu> hey aimo
[20:53] <AimoParru> yes!
[20:53] <ubuntu> try reinstalling it
[20:53] <ubuntu> i don't see any other way
[20:53] <AimoParru> How to reinstall just the kernel
[20:53] <ubuntu> whole system
[20:53] <AimoParru> You have to be kidding.
[20:53] <ubuntu> ok
[20:53] <ubuntu> try this
[20:54] <ubuntu> do you have access to your konsole
[20:54] <AimoParru> With live cd, yes
[20:54] <AimoParru> without livecd only grub loads
[20:54] <ubuntu> then you're screwed!
[20:55] <AimoParru> there has to be a way to just install the kernel.
[20:55] <ubuntu> that means that your system is preaty muck dead
[20:55] <ubuntu> much*
[20:55] <ubuntu> sry
[20:55] <AimoParru> I've got the whole file system still running
[20:55] <AimoParru> only kernel images are missing
[20:56] <ubuntu> yeah but you don't have the access to your systems files
[20:56] <AimoParru> Really?!?
[20:56] <ubuntu> and without that you can't reinstall kernel
[20:56] <ubuntu> if you have any important files use your live cd to back them up
[20:56] <AimoParru> Oh deer!
[20:57] <ubuntu> sry
[20:57] <ubuntu> :)
[20:57] <ubuntu> :(*
[20:57] <AimoParru> Is there anyt "fix this installation" button?
[20:57] <ubuntu> my keyboard is screwed with kubuntu
[20:57] <ubuntu> no that i can think of
[20:58] <ubuntu> the only options are a clean install and a new partition install
[20:58] <AimoParru> Whoa, I'm speechless.
[20:59] <Arminius_> hello
[20:59] <ubuntu> hi
[20:59] <Arminius_> I'm back
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> AimoParru- there aren't any kernel images at all left? That seems like a weird thing for autoremove to do
[20:59] <Arminius_> and still in trouble with the update :s
[20:59] <AimoParru> Dragnslcr: No, they are all gone.
[20:59] <aga> are you sure it did not remove the old kernel images Dragnslcr?
[21:00] <ubuntu> sry man but you're really fucked cause the kernel is the linux itself (basicly linux IS kernel)
[21:00] <AimoParru> yes
[21:00] <aga> AimoParru:  open a terminal and write uname -r
[21:00] <aga> i think it was -r
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> AimoParru- what do you get when you get to the grub menu?
[21:01] <AimoParru> aga: It's running on livecd
[21:01] <ubuntu> he can only get to the console using live cd
[21:01] <AimoParru> Dragnslcr: there is only grub
[21:01] <aga> aha ok
[21:02] <AimoParru> I can load the kernel with that but there is no image
[21:02] <Gushter> you probably ger error 15 or 17
[21:02] <AimoParru> yes
[21:02] <AimoParru> 15
[21:02] <Gushter> there u go
[21:02] <Gushter> that means that grub can't detect your system
[21:02] <Gushter> and cannot boot it
[21:03] <Dragnslcr> Might be able to boot from a LiveCD and copy a new kernel image file to /boot
[21:03] <Gushter> i had a simmilar problem
[21:03] <AimoParru> It can detect but there are no images,
[21:03] <AimoParru> Dragnslcr: How?
[21:03] <Gushter> dragnslcr: no way
[21:03] <Gushter> because he cannot access his system files cause they are locked
[21:03] <Noughmad> Gushter: why not?
[21:04] <Noughmad> AimoParru: how are they locked exactly?
[21:04] <Gushter> because he cannot access his system files cause they are locked
[21:04] <Gushter> Linux files aren't like windows'!
[21:05] <Gushter> they are locked and can be accessed ONLY by the system admin (A.K.A. distro)
[21:05] <Noughmad> how?
[21:05] <Dragnslcr> Gushter- I'm not sure if it would work, since the kernel image might not match his system, but there's no way there could be any kind of lock
[21:05] <Gushter> or with a localy used sudo option!
[21:05] <Gushter> read above!
[21:06] <Gushter> i had a simmilar prob
[21:06] <AimoParru> And you had to reinstall the whole system?
[21:06] <Gushter> basicly yes
[21:06] <AimoParru> OH BOY
[21:06] <AimoParru> sorry for yelling
[21:06] <Noughmad> AimoParru: What's preventing you from "sudo apt-get install linux" ?
[21:06] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to write to the /boot directory as root, even if you boot from a LiveCD
[21:07] <AimoParru> I'll try
[21:07] <Gushter> Noughmad: thats stupid!
[21:07] <Gushter> there is a similar option but it varies from distro to distro
[21:07] <Noughmad> Gushter: thanks
[21:07] <AimoParru> is it?
[21:07] <Noughmad> why is it stupid if I may ask?
[21:07] <Gushter> yes
[21:08] <mprice> Should be able to chroot into the borked system with a liveCD and fix it that way
[21:08] <Gushter> look above
[21:08] <AimoParru> mprice: Can it be done?
[21:08] <Gushter> mprice: thats preaty clever
[21:08] <Gushter> i haven't tried that
[21:08] <Noughmad> Gushter: I'm looking above, and all I can see is you flaming helpful people
[21:08] <AimoParru> so, how do I do that?
[21:08] <Dragnslcr> Noughmad- that wouldn't work unless you can boot into the system
[21:09] <Gushter> noughmad: there is a similar option but it varies from distro to distro
[21:09] <mprice> I have fixed mine before like that
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> Or do some tricky stuff with mounting so that apt thinks that /boot on that partition is where it should put the kernel image
[21:09] <wvmac_> what sound backend is kubuntu 9.04 using.  i can't find a running process that looks like a sound backend
[21:09] <AimoParru> Tell me, please. It's my wife's computer
[21:09] <Gushter> mprice: but did you use sudo or not
[21:10] <Gushter> aimoparru: calm down
[21:10] <AimoParru> i'll try
[21:10] <mprice> don't remember its been a little while
[21:10] <Gushter> we'll fix it
[21:10] <mprice> is sudo broke on his system?
[21:10] <Gushter> mprice: only the kernel images
[21:10] <AimoParru> It's running on LiveCD
[21:10] <AimoParru> yes, kernel images are missing.
[21:11] <mprice> does the live cd have networking that works?
[21:11] <AimoParru> yes
[21:11] <Dragnslcr> wvmac_- I thought pulseaudio, but it might be phonon or alsa. Might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:11] <mprice> okay
[21:11] <Gushter> mprice: that would work only if he uses the original kernel
[21:12] <AimoParru> network is working
[21:13] <Gushter> mprice: if he updated the kernel (which i'm preaty sure he did) that would only mess his system more
[21:14] <AimoParru> Can it just copy new kernel image?
[21:14] <Gushter> NO!
[21:14] <AimoParru> Why?
[21:14] <Gushter> that would only mess it up more
[21:14] <Gushter> did you update the sistem
[21:14] <Gushter> at all
[21:14] <AimoParru> Yes. That is the reason why it got broken.
[21:15] <Dragnslcr> AimoParru- you can try copying the kernel image from somewhere else, but it's certainly not guaranteed to work
[21:15] <Gushter> that means that you have a newer kernel that is on the cd
[21:15] <AimoParru> yes
[21:15] <AimoParru> but if the image is taken from the network?
[21:15] <Gushter> so I wouldn't try it
[21:16] <Gushter> image is not like a file!
[21:16] <Gushter> you cannot just copy it
[21:16] <Noughmad> AimoParru: mount the original drive, chroot into it, and sudo apt-get install linux
[21:16] <Dragnslcr> Gushter- er, actually, it is just a file. Everything in Unix is just a file
[21:16] <AimoParru> what is that gonna do?
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Well, it might be more than one file, but you get the idea
[21:17] <mprice> reinstall your kernel
[21:17] <Noughmad> install the kernel if it works, otherwise nothing
[21:17] <travail> Hey!
[21:17] <AimoParru> can aptitude reconfigure the kernel.
[21:17] <Gushter> yeah but it also contains the settings from the PC! Don't forgert that
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Unix is not like Windows and its registry
[21:17] <mprice> at least backup anything important before you try it, AimoParru
[21:17] <travail> Am I the only one who can't connect to msn with Kopete?
[21:17] <Gushter> yeah but windows also has a kernel
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Sure, so it might not work, but it's worth a try
[21:18] <Gushter> yeah
[21:18] <Gushter> at least
[21:18] <AimoParru> How to chroot to the system?
[21:18] <Gushter> you have nothing to lose at all
[21:18] <mprice> !chroot
[21:18] <Gushter> don't ask me
[21:18] <mprice> !chroot | AimoParru
[21:19] <Noughmad> you have to mount it first
[21:19] <brian_> Hello
[21:19] <Gushter> hi
[21:20] <Noughmad> AimoParru: do you know which device it's on?
[21:20] <Arminius_> hi
[21:20] <Gushter> hd0,0 i guess
[21:20] <brian_> I have an issue with latesst Kubuntu 8.10
[21:20] <Gushter> yeah
[21:20] <brian_> like when i add the widget for system tray,,
[21:20] <Gushter> what is it brian
[21:20] <Gushter> yeah
[21:21] <AimoParru> yes, hd0,0
[21:21] <Gushter> told ya
[21:21] <brian_> It appears... ok,, when i reboot the pc,,, then login the system tray widjet  just disappears,, it gets hidden
[21:21] <Gushter> huh
[21:22] <Arminius_> brian_ are you other palsmoids saved correctly?
[21:22] <Gushter> is your system shut down properly
[21:22] <brian_> the system is shut properly
[21:22] <Noughmad> AimoParru: so try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[21:23] <brian_> and the plasmoids is too configured in the right manner
[21:23] <Gushter> i gotta go! bye guys
[21:23] <Arminius_> bye
[21:23] <dereine_> is there a vnc solution for kde? which works like the one for gnome?
[21:23] <Arminius_> so if you change your configueration it is saved correctly?
[21:24] <Arminius_> configuration
[21:24] <Dragnslcr> dereine_- server or client?
[21:24] <dereine_> someone has to connect to by pc
[21:25] <Noughmad> dereine_: krfb/krdc might be what you're looking for
[21:25] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, krfb is the VNC server
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> It's in K Menu -> Internet
[21:26] <Arminius_> brian_ ? are you able to open and edit those two files?
[21:26] <Arminius_> ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc and ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[21:27] <brian_> let me check
[21:27] <dereine_> Dragnslcr: thx!
[21:28] <AimoParru> How to copy the home folder in safe?
[21:29] <AimoParru> LiveCD won't let me access to network with Dolphin
[21:29] <AimoParru> fish:// and so on.
[21:30] <Salze> You can copy from the shell with scp.
[21:30] <brian_> i am able to open and edit the the files
[21:30] <Arminius_> well then it's not a question of acces rights :s
[21:30] <Salze> Like "scp -r /home/whatever <remoteuser>@<remoteip>:<remotepath>
[21:30] <Arminius_> sorry can't help you then...
[21:30] <Arminius_> :s
[21:30] <Noughmad> AimoParru: so you reinstalling after all?
[21:31] <brian_> everywhere time i restart the laptop the system tray hides to a location  like to the top of the Desktop
[21:31] <brian_> then again i remove the system tray and add it once more
[21:31] <AimoParru> Noughmad: I think I first copy the files in safe
[21:32] <Noughmad> ok, smart :)
[21:32] <brian_> By the way is there any other way to display the system tray in the desktop
[21:32] <Arminius_> dunno sorry...
[21:32] <AimoParru> I've mounted the disk, now I just have to figure out how to save the files
[21:32] <aga> right button - add widgets - system tray?
[21:32] <brian_> I also want to create a new hot key so that i can access the desktop directly
[21:33] <brian_> aga  i tried to add the system tray,, the way u told,,
[21:33] <AimoParru> LiveCD won't let use port 22
[21:33] <brian_> I want to dispppay the system tray not using widjet
[21:33] <brian_> display
[21:34] <brian_> any other innovative alternative ?
[21:34] <Noughmad> AimoParru: no USBs around?
[21:35] <AimoParru> Hmm, yes might found
[21:35] <StormWinged> hello h4x0rz :D
[21:35] <Arminius_> dunno if anyone is available for help but I got some big trouble with my update to KDE 4.2... and need help
[21:36] <Noughmad> Arminius_: what?
[21:36] <brian_> Do u know the Hot key to access Desktop?
[21:37] <Arminius_> well Noughmad, I tried to update to KDE 4.2 via the konsole (apt-get upgrade and update) and there was no problem but when I check Adept for example it tells me I am still on KDE 4.1 (I rebooted)
[21:37] <Noughmad> brian_: Ctrl+Fx switches to desktop number x, if that is of any help
[21:37] <Arminius_> and when I try doing it via adept, it wants me to deinstall vital packages
[21:37] <Arminius_> so I don't know what to do?
[21:38] <aga> Arminius_:  open the help and check the kde version
[21:38] <Noughmad> The stadndard procedure is to run "sudo dpkg --cenfigure -a" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:38] <Arminius_> 4.1.4
[21:39] <brian_> Noughmad your tips abt hotkey is really good,,
[21:39] <Noughmad> s/cenfigure/configure
[21:39] <brian_> it works for me
[21:39] <Noughmad> brian_: nice :)
[21:39] <AimoParru> Noughmad: It's ntfs disk
[21:39] <AimoParru> LiveCD won't read it.
[21:40] <Noughmad> AimoParru: then try the next one
[21:40] <Arminius_> any idea Noughmad ?
[21:40] <Noughmad> Arminius_: does the --configure -a help?
[21:40] <StormWinged> here is the support for intrepid?
[21:41] <Arminius_> configure?
[21:41] <Noughmad> Arminius_: The stadndard procedure is to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:41] <Arminius_> ok
[21:42] <Arminius_> thanks
[21:42] <Arminius_> I'll try that one...
[21:42] <Noughmad> allright
[21:42] <aga> should be enough with adding the repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and update and upgrade tho
[21:43] <rooter_> and
[21:43] <Arminius_> Noughmad tells me: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 67 not upgraded.
[21:43] <Salze> Arminius_: Did you do upgrade, or dist-upgrade?
[21:44] <AimoParru> Noughmad: It is copying now!
[21:44] <Arminius_> upgrade...
[21:44] <Salze> Try dist-upgrade.
[21:44] <Arminius_> so I need to write
[21:44] <Lord_Drachenblut> i'm trying to tweak a setting in gstreamer-properties but every time I close gstreamer-properties the value resets.... anyone know of a fix for this?
[21:44] <Arminius_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:44] <Arminius_> ?
[21:44] <Salze> Yes.
[21:44] <Noughmad> Arminius_: yes
[21:44] <Salze> After sudo apt-get update.
[21:44] <Noughmad> AimoParru: cool
[21:45] <rooter_> hey
[21:45] <Arminius_> ok thanks I'll try :D
[21:45] <rooter_> any latin people?
[21:46] <Noughmad> rooter_: you mean like from Rome?
[21:46] <Arminius_> hem what I get is strange? can I give you the pastebin link?
[21:46] <StormWinged> does anyone know why i`m having problems trying to install libtorrent?
[21:47] <Salze> Sure.
[21:47] <Arminius_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1385280
[21:47] <Arminius_> have a look at those packages he wants to remove!
[21:47] <Arminius_> thanks a lot :D
[21:47] <StormWinged> at ./configure... he dont find the way to libsigc++ packages
[21:48] <StormWinged> and i have it installed
[21:49] <Noughmad> StormWinged: you need libsigc++-dev
[21:49] <StormWinged> dammit
[21:49] <donG_> o//
[21:49] <rooter_> first date
[21:49] <StormWinged> i tryied it... but without "-" between lib and dev
[21:50] <Noughmad> usually header packages in ubuntu have -dev appended to them
[21:50] <Noughmad> although that look strange with stuff endeng in ++
[21:50] <Arminius_> any idea? :s
[21:51] <Noughmad> Arminius_: I don't know, I had similar problems before, most of the time several rounds of updating, and configuring fixed it
[21:51] <Arminius_> you agree I shouldn't accept to remove them right?
[21:52] <Noughmad> no, you got that right :)
[21:52] <Arminius_> ok ;)
[21:52] <cesar_> hola
[21:52] <Arminius_> and how should configure to fix it? ^^
[21:52] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[21:53] <Guest81695> hola a todos
[21:53] <FuriousGeorge> if i install 9.04-beta, it's just one command to upgrade to the stable version when it's out later this month, right?
[21:53] <Noughmad> Arminius_: I'm not sure, it's somewhat magical :)
[21:53] <Arminius_> hehe ;)
[21:53] <Noughmad> FuriousGeorge: yes, the beta updates directly to the proper release
[21:54] <Arminius_> I prefer to have certainty, wouldn't want to mess my system up ^^
[21:54] <Arminius_> I suppose you can send me the magic via IRC? :p
[21:54] <aga> where is the kernel image stored?
[21:54] <the_dark_warrio> Kubuntu menu isn't focused on openning. Where should I report this bug?
[21:56] <aga> i need to copy it but i wonder which one i need on /usr/src
[21:56] <aga> the generic or the other one
[21:56] <cesar__> kubuntu spañol???
[21:56] <Arminius_> gonna try to find some help but thanks for your time :)
[21:56] <Salze> Arminius_: I guess a backup would be a good idea. And then afterwards process with accepting the removal of the packages. Then re-run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. If there are still things missing, you could then try sudo apt-get install kde
[21:57] <Dragnslcr> aga- usually in /boot
[21:57] <cesar__> cual es el canarl para kubuntu español?
[21:57] <Arminius_> ok :s
[21:57] <Arminius_> how do you backup? :s
[21:57] <aga> !es
[21:59] <cesar__> #kubuntu-es
[21:59] <Salze> Arminius_: I always copy the whole harddisk via dd and netcat to a server. But there are several other possiblities. But you really should TEST your backup (i.e.: the restore procedure), before you rely on it.
[21:59] <Arminius_> ok
[22:00] <Arminius_> well then... have a good evening
[22:00] <Arminius_> bye
[22:03] <AimoParru> Noughmad-laptop: saving done, I think it's time to chroot
[22:03] <Noughmad-laptop> okay
[22:03] <AimoParru> so, I go to the mounted folder
[22:04] <Noughmad-laptop> no, just "sudo chroot /<mounted folder>"
[22:04] <Noughmad-laptop> I hope that's installed on LiveCD...
[22:04] <saing> http://crazytuga.mybrute.com  <-- BE A BRUTE AND CHALLENGE ME IN THIS FUNNY GAME :P
[22:05] <FuriousGeorge> if i use the alternate install cd i can specify how much swap space to use, right?
[22:05] <AimoParru> Noughmad-laptop: Done
[22:05] <AimoParru> and then: sudo apt-get install linux
[22:05] <AimoParru> ?
[22:06] <Noughmad-laptop> AimoParru: should work :)
[22:06] <AimoParru> cross your fingers!
[22:07] <AimoParru> arggh, it cannot access network
[22:07] <Noughmad-laptop> AimoParru: oww
[22:07] <Noughmad-laptop> strange
[22:09] <Noughmad-laptop> AimoParru: you can access it, but apt-get can't?
[22:09] <AimoParru> firewall or something to stop it?
[22:09] <AimoParru> Yes.
[22:09] <AimoParru> Or, I can surf the web
[22:09] <Noughmad-laptop> type dmesg
[22:09] <Noughmad-laptop> to see if he FW blocked anything
[22:10] <AimoParru> doesn't read anything
[22:11] <Guest44746> #Kubuntu.pt
[22:12] <Noughmad-laptop> AimoParru: if you deleted the packages recently, they might be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:13] <AimoParru> there are something but not kernel image
[22:13] <Noughmad-laptop> no linux-generic-something?
[22:13] <matisse> Hi
[22:13] <AimoParru> No
[22:14] <Noughmad-laptop> tough luck
[22:14] <AimoParru> just some cups, nvidia etc.
[22:14] <rooter_> ctcp
[22:15] <matisse> I've got an puzzling problem: I have okular (package okular-kde4 and more) installed, but I can't start it, because there seems to be no executable with such name. (I'm running Kde3) Anyone got an idea=
[22:15] <matisse> ?
[22:15] <AimoParru> Noughmad-laptop: yes.
[22:15] <Noughmad-laptop> AimoParru: I don't know, maybe try aptitude instead of apt-get if that works
[22:15] <Noughmad-laptop> It's getting late here so I have to get some sleep, good luck to all
[22:16] <AimoParru> ok. good night
[22:16] <AimoParru> Btw.
[22:16] <AimoParru> Can it now be installed from cd?
[22:20] <dex_> help. I messed with the grub device map. now after today's kernel update I get only a grub prompt
[22:20] <dwidmann> matisse: try running "sudo apt-get install --reinstall okular", by the looks of it you're running 8.04 w/KDE4, right? It should be in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/
[22:20] <dex_> I'm in the live system, anyone know how to fix it quickly?
[22:21] <AimoParru> dex_: I did the same!
[22:21] <dwidmann> dex_: well, you could just edit the device.map back to normal
[22:21] <AimoParru> Do you still have kernel images left?
[22:21] <dex_> dwidmann: well, it *is* normal as it is now, it was weird before
[22:21] <dwidmann> dex_: odd
[22:21] <dex_> I thougth of chroot and update and reinstall grub rather...
[22:22] <dwidmann> dex_: that works too, be sure to bind mount /dev, /sys, and /proc
[22:22] <dex_> bind was what i was missing
[22:22] <dwidmann> ie: mount --bind /dev /media/something/dev
[22:23] <dex_> *before* the chroot, right?
[22:23] <AimoParru> My apt-get cannot resolve hostnames to download image.
[22:23] <dwidmann> right
[22:24] <dwidmann> AimoParru: can you resolve hostnames at all on that box?
[22:24] <matisse> dwidmann: found the reason: the directory you mentioned is not in the PATH... thx for the hint!
[22:24] <AimoParru> dwidmann: browser works
[22:24] <dex_> dwidmann: awesome - the kernels are all gone. what the...
[22:24] <Salze> AimoParru: Do you use a proxy for connecting to the internet?
[22:25] <AimoParru> dex_: same here!
[22:25] <AimoParru> Salze: no
[22:25] <dex_> AimoParru: so today's kernel upgrade borked your system?
[22:25] <AimoParru> I've got just liveCD
[22:25] <AimoParru> dex_: Yes
[22:25] <dex_> AimoParru:  anything you've been able to do avout it so far?
[22:26] <AimoParru> I've chrooted the disk and now I'm trying to apt-get install linux
[22:26] <AimoParru> apt-get cannot resolve the addresses
[22:27] <dwidmann> dex_: wow, you might want to install one then :)
[22:27] <dex_> AimoParru: tough luck. and I mounted the debian root, not kub :P
[22:28] <AimoParru> Can I use ip-addresses instead?
[22:28] <AimoParru> Or can some kernel be loaded straight from live cd?
[22:28] <dwidmann> AimoParru: give it a try
[22:29] <dex_> ah jeez. I booted with a 32bit disc. it's a 64b install.
[22:29] <dex_> awesome.
[22:29] <dwidmann> AimoParru: (the ip address idea, that is)
[22:29] <dwidmann> dex_: yeah, that won't work
[22:30] <AimoParru> dwidmann: Can I do my own route table? or which way is the best?
[22:30] <dex_> reboot!
[22:30] <dwidmann> AimoParru: I don't know anything about that ... hehehe
[22:32] <AimoParru> Ok, the network does not work when I'm chrooted.
[22:33] <dwidmann> AimoParru: did you bind mount /proc, /sys, and /dev?
[22:33] <AimoParru> Err?
[22:33] <AimoParru> What is bind?
[22:33] <dwidmann> AimoParru: I mentinoed it above
[22:33] <dwidmann> AimoParru: mount --bind
[22:34] <dwidmann> ie: mount --bind /dev /media/something/dev
[22:34] <AimoParru> What does it do?
[22:34] <dwidmann> "remounts pat of the filesystem heirarchy somewhere else"
[22:35] <AimoParru> Ok.
[22:35] <AimoParru> Do I have to do it before mounting or how?
[22:35] <dwidmann> AimoParru: after mounting the partition, before chrooting in
[22:36] <AimoParru> ok. How do I unchroot?
[22:36] <dwidmann> AimoParru: type exit
[22:37] <AimoParru> so simple, thanks.
[22:37] <AimoParru> Now I'll try binding
[22:45] <AimoParru> dwidmann: Still no network
[22:46] <dwidmann> hrm
[22:46] <rogal> Hi, anybody can help with rar ?
[22:46] <AimoParru> 7z works with that
[22:47] <DexterF> AimoParru: mount your root partition, mount --bind /dev, /sys and /proc, chroot into the mounted root part, run grub-install --recheck /wheregrubshouldgodisk
[22:47] <rogal> I nead to compress sobie files using rar, split to 100mb and compression = 0
[22:47] <rogal> in console
[22:47] <DexterF> if thats sane run grub-update, repait menu.lst (here it fucked up) and reinstall grub
[22:47] <AimoParru> rogal: 7zip
[22:47] <DexterF> <- dex_
[22:48] <rogal> Why can't I do it using rar ?
[22:48] <AimoParru> DexterF: Why should reinstall grub. My kernel is missing.
[22:48] <DexterF> to fix grub. it loosk in the worng disk. at least here it did
[22:48] <rogal> how can I install 7zip ?
[22:49] <DexterF> your kernel is installed (if you have the same issue as me) but its not listed in grub
[22:49] <frogonwheels> rogal:  sudop aptitiude install p7zip p7zip-rar
[22:50] <AimoParru> DexterF: No, i've searched the disk
[22:50] <frogonwheels> rogal:  *sudo
[22:50] <AimoParru> I did autoremove
[22:50] <DexterF> AimoParru: oh. ok.
[22:50] <DexterF> AimoParru: can you download the kernel file from the computer you're IRCing with now and transfer to the hosed box?
[22:50] <rogal> this 7zip is console app ?
[22:50] <dwidmann> should exist at /<mountpoint>/boot/vmlinuz*
[22:51] <frogonwheels> rogal: ah. 'rar' is shareware that you should register according to the info from app
[22:51] <AimoParru> dwidmann: It is not there, but i'll check again
[22:51] <frogonwheels> rogal: um.. windows has a gui.. not sure about linux.
[22:52] <dwidmann> frogonwheels: (should; though, one might note that it's not nagware ;) )
[22:52] <rogal> So how can I fast make archive, splitted to 100mb and compression=0 ?
[22:53] <frogonwheels> rogal: you can read as good as us..  type 7z  to see the options.
[22:53] <lixy> does anyone know why my Kubuntu crashes and hangs on the playing of the start up sound?
[22:53] <rogal> frogonwheels: I have the options in rar but I can't understand how to use it
[22:53] <dwidmann> AimoParru: I'm still working on hunting down a fix for the network not working in the chroot, so you know
[22:54] <frogonwheels> 7z a -v100m  archivename.rar
[22:54] <AimoParru> dwidmann: Thanks.
[22:54] <AimoParru> Route says it finds gateway.
[22:55] <AimoParru> I think it's close.
[22:57] <dwidmann> AimoParru: can you ping google from inside the chroot (assuming not, just would like to check)
[22:58] <AimoParru> dwidmann: I tried, but there is not ping installed
[22:59] <mattparry> Hi! Any help page for using/configuring a modem with kubuntu? is it still kppp?
[22:59] <dwidmann> AimoParru: is your system more hosed than we originally though?
[22:59] <dwidmann> AimoParru: try mounting /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts to your chroot too
[23:00] <AimoParru> good idea!
[23:02] <AimoParru> those are not directories
[23:02] <rogal> What is most popular FTP server for kde ?
[23:02] <syka> query axel pasp
[23:02] <dwidmann> AimoParru: won't it let you mount them? (they might not be directories ... but ...) if not, just copy or symlink them
[23:05] <DexterF> rogal: you don't let a desktop system run server processes. you'll want a linux ftp server.
[23:05] <DexterF> rogal: fire up adept, type in ftp and see what it returns
[23:05] <dwidmann> DexterF: why not? Consolidate hardware, etc, etc
[23:06] <dwidmann> (save $)
[23:06] <AimoParru> dwidmann: It's loading!
[23:06] <rogal> DexterF: found nothing
[23:06] <dwidmann> w00t!
[23:06] <DexterF> dwidmann, rogal, not what I meant. there's no such thing as a ftp serv for kde. if it's a server it runs under linux, not kde. no matter what the desktop is
[23:07] <rogal> DexterF: so whait is the fastest way to share something via ftp ?
[23:07] <dwidmann> !ftp | rogal
[23:07] <DexterF> rogal: impossible. I get... tons of fftp entries in adept
[23:07] <dwidmann> hmm,
[23:07] <dwidmann> !ftpd
[23:07] <DexterF> now that was easy :P
[23:08] <rogal> DexterF: I have kubuntu since 2 hours, don't know how it works
[23:08] <dwidmann> I recall pure-ftpd ( I think) being pretty much drop in, will work with zero configuration
[23:08] <dwidmann> (not saying it will be secure, just saying that it will work)
[23:08] <rogal> DexterF: just need to compress something (50gb) and share it via ftp
[23:09] <dwidmann> 50GB!! wow
[23:10] <rogal> already done 6gb
[23:11] <AimoParru> Ok. kernel loaded.
[23:11] <AimoParru> Do I just restart the computer?
[23:12] <DexterF> rogal: ever used linux before at all?
[23:12] <dwidmann> AimoParru: is everything you can think of good to go? (it is kind of a hassle to get back into the chroot, afterall)
[23:13] <rogal> DexterF: other distributions, never used ftp
[23:13] <AimoParru> dwidmann: I think so.
[23:14] <AimoParru> There were no errors, grub updated etc.
[23:14] <AimoParru> Can You think of something?
[23:14] <dwidmann> not particularly, but if it seems good to go, then give it a go AimoParru
[23:15] <AimoParru> Now it goes. Wish me luck!
[23:16] <yoritomo> hello all
[23:17] <yoritomo> i used this option --prefix=/usr/ to compile
[23:17] <AimoParru> dwidmann: It's rising!
[23:17] <yoritomo> but i got this error libtool: install: error: cannot install `libdrm_intel.la' to a directory not ending in /usr/local/lib
[23:18] <yoritomo> why did i get it ?
[23:19] <dwidmann> yoritomo: not sure, but it looks like it wants itself installed in /usr/local instead of /usr, if you read the error
[23:19] <AimoParru> dwidmann: ...and we're up...
[23:20] <AimoParru> Thank You all!
[23:20] <AimoParru> dwidmann: If You ever come to Norhtern Finland, I'll buy You a cup of coffee with a dona!
[23:21] <yoritomo> but as said , and i experienced , not working in /usr/local/
[23:22] <dwidmann> AimoParru: that'd be quite the distant trip, but I always did want to tavel :)
[23:22] <dwidmann> *travel
[23:22] <AimoParru> Where you are from? If I may ask.
[23:23] <dwidmann> AimoParru: at the moment ... Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
[23:23] <AimoParru> Hmm, is that too far for a donut?
[23:23] <AimoParru> But thank You anyway.
[23:23] <dwidmann> I think the ticket would cost more than the donut :P
[23:24] <dwidmann> anyhow, you're welcome :)
[23:25] <AimoParru> I think, I'll go to bed. It's 1.30 am.
[23:26] <AimoParru> Good Night!
[23:26] <dwidmann> 'night
[23:27] <yoritomo> can somebody help me in my compilation ?
[23:28] <dwidmann> yoritomo: I know it's not where you _want_ it, but why not try ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and see if it will take it that way
[23:29] <yoritomo> no, i tryed it yesterday and that was not working, that is why somebody from here asked me to try like that
[23:30] <dwidmann> yoritomo: what error did it throw yesterday (presumably something else?)
[23:31] <yoritomo> so sorry i did not write it, i just copied in the chan yesterday
[23:32] <yoritomo> i got this error this time doing the make-install
[23:49] <Jason_CO> i accidently removed the pannel at the bottom of my desktop - i added a new panel but i cant get things to place properly on the panel