[01:17] <mrooney> Hello folks, anyone know why http://feeds.launchpad.net/ubuntu/latest-bugs.atom seems to be broken? It hasn't updated in 7 or so hours
[01:17] <mrooney> and as such, neither has the bot in #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[01:18] <thumper> hmm... I wonder if it is being overly eagerly cached in squid
[01:23] <mrooney> thumper: it has never seemed to be a problem before, any ideas?
[01:23] <thumper> mrooney: perhaps a timeout on the server that isn't being transferred down
[01:23] <thumper> mrooney: I'll take a look
[01:24] <spm> thumper: I don't believe so. I can see several cache releases in the past hour.
[01:25] <thumper> spm: as it it isn't squid?
[01:26] <spm> thumper: yeah, that's how I read it
[01:29] <thewrath> hey all!
[01:31] <hggdh> mrooney, I updated the status page with a notice that we are down due to a problem with the feed
[01:31] <mrooney> hggdh: thanks
[01:34] <mrooney> thumper: someone had filed bug 356671 so I opened an LP task
[01:37] <thumper> mrooney: I retargetted the launchpad task to the launchpad bugs project :)
[01:38] <mrooney> thumper: okay, I figured there was perhaps a more appropriate one
[01:38] <mrooney> launchpad has many components indeed
[01:38] <thumper> mrooney: that's fine, we're here to help :)
[01:39] <hggdh> mrooney, it might be a good idea for both of us to subscribe to eeebotu bug email... I just did it
[01:39] <thewrath> need to talk to an admin asap
[01:39] <mrooney> hggdh: I think I already am, that is what pointed me to the issue
[01:40] <hggdh> k
[01:40] <thumper> thewrath: what about?
[01:41] <thewrath> about how long something takes to get a project name changed
[01:41] <thewrath> i need it changed asap for a presentation i have to give
[01:41] <thumper> spm: ^^
[01:42] <thewrath> also thumper maybe u know maybe you dont but i ahve changed code in bzr i have to do a commit then push it out right?
[01:43] <thumper> thewrath: it depends kinda, is it a checkout from LP or a branch?
[01:43] <thewrath> branch
[01:43] <thumper> thewrath: in which case you need to commit locally, then push
[01:43] <thewrath> k that is what i did
[01:43] <thewrath> as in commit locally
[01:44] <thumper> thewrath: spm is running erands, but should be back in 20 minutes or so
[01:44] <thumper> thewrath: when is your presentation?
[01:44] <thewrath> i am not sure but want to finalize everything here shortly
[01:44] <thewrath> i have the final presentation needs to be in by April ...../
[01:44] <thewrath> APril 20
[01:44]  * thumper nods
[01:44] <thewrath> I mean i have some time but i have it there for almost a week
[01:45] <thumper> thewrath: do you have a question open>
[01:45] <thumper> ?
[01:45] <thewrath> yes sir
[01:45] <thumper> thewrath: what is your lp id?
[01:45] <thewrath> me personally or my project
[01:46] <thumper> both would help
[01:46] <thewrath> project: wasdats me: michaelbrown2009
[01:46] <thewrath> thumper: it says SSH michaelbrwon2009@bazaar.launchpad.net password:
[01:46] <thewrath> the password is which one the one i use to log into launchpad correct?
[01:47] <thumper> thewrath: found you
[01:47] <thewrath> ok
[01:47] <thewrath> i get an error that says unable to auth to ssh host as michaelbrwon..... bad auth type <allowed_tyupes....
[01:48] <thumper> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/66180
[01:48] <thumper> thewrath: do a `bzr lp-login michaelbrown2009`
[01:48] <thumper> thewrath: you had a typo in your ssh username
[01:49]  * thumper back shortly
[01:49] <thewrath> same thign
[01:50] <thewrath> i think i know what the issue is
[01:53] <thewrath> did not have pageant running
[02:13] <spm> thewrath: I can do your rename now. do you have a logged question open?
[02:25] <thumper> spm: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/66180
[02:25] <thumper> spm: what is the LOSA team name?
[02:25] <spm> thumper: canonical-losas
[02:25] <thumper> spm: ta
[02:26]  * spm is tempted to get that changed to "team-of-haz-rubber-ducky_fear-us"
[02:29] <spm> thewrath: is done: https://edge.launchpad.net/mikesats
[05:41] <bjsnider> i just got a rejection message, because i changed the contents of the tarball i was uploading to the ppa. but the instructions on what to do about it don't fit witht eh email i got
[05:41] <bjsnider> i cannot: downloading the pristine original tarball from the location pointed in the rejection message
[05:41] <bjsnider> there is no location in the email
[05:44] <wgrant> bjsnider: Perhaps you should pastebin that email.
[05:45] <bjsnider> would it fix the problem if i give the tarball a new name?
[05:46] <bjsnider> ok, that seems to have fixed it
[05:46] <bjsnider> but i had to change the tarball's contents. the makefile was wrong
[05:49] <wgrant> bjsnider: Then change it in the .diff.gz.
[05:50] <wgrant> bjsnider: YOu cannot modify the .orig.tar.gz, both for technical and semantic reasons.
[05:50] <wgrant> It is the original upstream tarball - if you have to modify it, it isn't the original upstream tarball, so it isn't the original upstream tarball.
[05:51] <bjsnider> but the source version i installed did have a modified makefile
[05:52] <bjsnider> and it built that time, so i guess changing themakefile was necessary
[05:52] <wgrant> bjsnider: You can change the makefile in the .diff.gz.
[05:53] <wgrant> No need to modify the .orig.tar.gz. That's the point of the .diff.gz.
[05:53] <bjsnider> wgrant, cool. that's good to know
[13:31] <wgrant> What's the maximum slave lag that the webapp will tolerate before switching to the master?
[14:02] <Ng> BjornT: how much would you like to fix bug 286193 ? :)
[14:08] <BjornT> Ng: not enough to push some other goal post 3.0 ;)
[14:09] <Ng> aww
[14:12] <Ng> BjornT: could there not even be a really small change to the footer text to say there is an unsubscribe link on the URL given?
[14:14] <BjornT> Ng: unfortunately no, because there isn't always a place where you could unsubscribe (at least not a single place). that's why it's a bit more complicated, you can be subscribe to the bug, to a duplicate, to a package, to ubuntu, etc. each case is different
[14:16] <Ng> BjornT: ah right. that's quite a lot of hoop jumping for people who are likely to have virtually no familiarity with the subtleties of a bug tracker :/
[14:17] <vadi2> why did dput.cf login field change from your id to anonymous?
[14:18] <wgrant> BjornT: Can't you fairly simply alter +subscribe to say something along the lines of "You're not actually subscribed... but I do see this indirect subscription for you. Go over _here_ instead."?
[14:19] <BjornT> wgrant: no, not fairly simply. it will be quite a lot of work getting it right.
[14:20] <Ng> it does sound like a pretty complex situation. could there be a general look at issues like this which affect lay users, post 3.0?
[14:20] <Ng> (the other thing I'd love to see reduced is the "me too!"ing on popular bugs. The "This also affects me" link doesn't seem to be prominent enough ;)
[14:21] <dnwe> hi, can anyone help with this error?
[14:21] <dnwe> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24932153/oh5l24UsOOeuziNtjQEflqBEUN1.txt
[14:21] <dnwe> was attempting to build a patched kernel in PPA
[14:22] <wgrant> dnwe: It means just what it says - the base section no longer exists.
[14:22] <wgrant> dnwe: In debian/control, change the 'base' sections to 'admin'
[14:22] <dnwe> but why did apt-get source in jaunty give me debian/control with base instead of admin :)
[14:22] <wgrant> Because it's overridden in Ubuntu.
[14:22] <wgrant> It doesn't really care what's in the control file.
[14:22] <wgrant> But PPAs don't have overrides.
[14:22] <dnwe> ok
[14:23] <dnwe> debian/scripts/misc/prepare-personal-ppa-source should probably be updated to do that I guess
[14:24] <wgrant> dnwe: Filing a bug against linux in Ubuntu would be a good idea.
[14:24] <elmo> is there a bug about relaxing that check for PPAs?
[14:24] <elmo> (rejecting on section is insane)
[14:24] <BjornT> Ng: yeah. i'll definitely put it on my list for possible post 3.0 goals
[14:25] <wgrant> elmo: That would more than likely require data model changes.
[14:25] <intellectronica> BjornT, Ng: note that if and when we do "ignore" subscriptions, it will be much easier to implement what Ng is suggesting
[14:25] <wgrant> I suppose the best fix for now is to just readd base.
[14:25] <cprov> elmo: do you think we should allow diverging sets of sections in PPAs ?
[14:26] <elmo> wgrant: fiffle
[14:26] <elmo> wgrant: just override it in the PPA to 'misc'
[14:26] <elmo> if it's an unrecognised section
[14:26] <wgrant> elmo: Good idea!
[14:26] <Ng> BjornT: thanks :)
[14:27] <elmo> cprov: I think we shouldn't reject uploads for such an unimportant thing.  if you don't want to diverting sections (which is reasonable), just override unknown sections to 'misc' or something
[14:27] <cprov> elmo: it makes sense, I will file a bug
[14:32] <vadi2> I build a package locally on intrepid, and it worked. Then sent it to the ppa and it failed with this:
[14:32] <vadi2> checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... ./configure: line 18723: intltool-update: command not found
[14:32] <vadi2>  found
[14:32] <vadi2> configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.0 or later.
[14:32] <hyperair> vadi2: bad dependencies.
[14:33] <hyperair> vadi2: your build-dep isn't right.
[14:33] <hyperair> vadi2: you'll need to test it locally with pbuilder to make sure that your build-dependencies are complete.
[14:33] <vadi2> ok
[15:47] <sidnei> hey folks, is it possible to create a release straight without having to go through create a milestone -> publish a release?
[15:47] <beuno> sidnei, not at the moment
[15:47] <beuno> it will be fixed soon-ish-y
[15:48] <sidnei> beuno: man, hopefully very soon. it sucks for projects that are not using milestones, it's three times harder now to make a release :(
[15:48] <mdz> I'm seeing quite a few error pages on bazaar.launchpad.net
[15:48] <mdz> is it just me?
[15:48] <mdz> an example from the past few minutes: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns/files
[15:48] <beuno> sidnei, yes, it will land on edge this week
[15:49] <beuno> mdz, loggerhead is choking and needs to be bounced
[15:49] <beuno> herb, around?
[15:50] <beuno> elmo, ^
[15:50] <herb> beuno: yes.  just got the alarm about it from nagios.  will be up in a couple of minutes.
[15:50] <beuno> herb, thanks
[16:10] <davidbarth> beuno: ping?
[16:10] <beuno> davidbarth, hi
[16:10] <davidbarth> hi
[16:10] <davidbarth> i have a question concerning the mailing list feature in LP
[16:10] <beuno> give me your best shot
[16:11] <davidbarth> trying to setup a list similar to ubuntu-devel, ie with some mild level of moderation
[16:11] <davidbarth> i created a team "ayatana" and attached a new mailing list to it
[16:11] <davidbarth> now to enable this moderation bit, do i need to turn the associated team into a moderate team?
[16:12] <davidbarth> or is there some other moderation feature?
[16:12] <beuno> davidbarth, yes, the restriction is based on the team members
[16:12] <beuno> what specifically do you want to moderate?
[16:13] <davidbarth> beuno: nothing in particular, just want to have a knob to turn if someone becomes totally insane
[16:14] <beuno> davidbarth, team membership it is
[16:19] <seb128> hi
[16:19] <seb128> is OOPS-1193ED258 a known issue?
[16:20] <seb128> launchpad timeout while trying to list ubuntu bugs sorted by new
[16:22] <salgado> seb128, I have a fix that will make it not time out, but that'd still be a rather slow page to render
[16:22] <salgado> s/will/should
[16:22] <seb128> well, slow is ok
[16:22] <seb128> I would be able to see what bugs users sent us recently ;-)
[16:23] <salgado> in fact, my fix will make that page only 1s faster, so it may not be enough to stop the time outs
[16:23] <salgado> BjornT, ^
[16:25] <seb128> any other workaround?
[16:29] <BjornT> salgado: i think your patch will have a greater impact than you think
[16:29] <salgado> BjornT, I hope you're right
[16:30] <BjornT> seb128: no workaround at the moment, but we're working on making the page render quicker this week
[16:31] <savvas> launchpad should do the same as pidgin, $1 for every 5 lines of stripped coding, but patches not less than 100 lines in total :)
[17:05] <bdmurray> Somebody might want to review this project's bugs for Malone bugs - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-report-tool/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress&field.status=Fix+Committed
[17:14] <tgm4883> Using launchpad to host bzr branches and track bugs.  Is there a way to get bzr to update a bug with what revision the bug was fixed in?  I know I can link the bug and branch by doing "bzr commit --fixes=lp:bug#", but i'd like a comment in the bug that also says (Fixed in revision #)
[17:14] <beuno> tgm4883, using the launchpad API
[17:14] <beuno> you can code up a script that scans the branches and adds a comment
[17:15] <tgm4883> well I was hoping there was something already in place.  Since there was a --fixes= option
[17:15] <tgm4883> if thats the only way, I guess it has to be then
[17:16] <beuno> tgm4883, what the --fixes does in Launchpad today, is link the branch to the bug
[17:16] <beuno> but not the revision
[17:18] <tgm4883> beuno, exactly.  Which is great, but then I still have to go in and leave a comment on the bug saying "fixed in revision #"
[17:18] <tgm4883> maybe I can make a quick script that does both
[17:18] <beuno> tgm4883, I think there's a bug for it
[17:18] <beuno> if not
[17:18] <beuno> please file one  :)
[17:18] <tgm4883> yea, file one
[17:18] <tgm4883> i'll look
[17:18] <matsubara> tgm4883: bug 318439
[17:18] <beuno> it's something we'd like
[17:19] <beuno> matsubara, it's slightly different
[17:19] <beuno> he wants to know the revision number
[17:19] <beuno> not necesarrily change the status
[17:19] <matsubara> well, when LP automatically changes the status it could/should leave a note saying: "fixed in rXXX"
[17:20] <tgm4883> yea
[17:20] <tgm4883> that would be ideal
[17:20] <davmor2> Guys I keep getting timeouts trying to report the following bug  Jaunty: Kubuntu jockey applet shouldn't call kdesudo
[17:21] <tgm4883> seems to make sense to me, if you are saying --fixes=# with bzr, it should change the bug status, and it shouldn't change the status without leaving a comment
[17:21] <beuno> davidbarth, yeap, we're working on it
[17:21] <tgm4883> i'll comment the bug
[17:21] <beuno> tgm4883, thanks
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Is it known yet that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu is giving "Timeout error" ?
[17:22] <beuno> charlie-tca, yes, we're working on fixing it
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Thank you, beuno
[17:23] <davmor2> beuno: Thanks dude
[17:23] <davmor2> Appriciate it :)
[17:24] <charlie-tca> Sorry to throw that at you when you already got it in work.
[17:29] <beuno> charlie-tca, it's fine, it's what happens when we break things  :)
[17:29] <charlie-tca> Your hard work is appreciated by some of us, anyway
[17:29] <beuno> :)
[17:33] <thewrath> hey all is there a way i can register people and have them not get an e-mail>
[17:35] <beuno> thewrath, register people in Launchpad, but them not confirming their email address?
[17:35] <thewrath> correcft
[17:35] <beuno> thewrath, no. Why would you want to do that?
[17:35] <thewrath> i would like to have the people using my project registerd by me and i can email them and say use the same password taht you use for my system
[17:35] <thewrath> okay beuno
[17:35] <thewrath> otherwise they not register
[17:36] <thewrath> is there a way i could create an email address that they could e-mail and that creates new bugs on my launchpad ?
[17:45] <mpt> "We'll be back in a few days, shipping Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) CDs."
[17:46] <mpt> ooh, 8.10 shininess :-)
[17:46] <mpt> salgado-lunch, is ShipIt supposed to be saying that?
[18:04] <salgado-lunch> mpt, nope, it's supposed to say 9.04
[18:04]  * salgado fixes it
[18:15] <aruetten> hy, I can't directly choose the CDDL as license for a new project. Should I chosse "Otherr/Open Source" or is it not possible to use launchpad with code under the CDDL?
[18:16] <beuno> bac, ^
[18:33] <Shock> hello, is there a way to specify the archs I want a package to be built for when I upload it to my ppa?
[18:34] <cody-somerville> Shock, yes, in the Architectures field in the debian control file of the package
[18:34] <cprov> Shock: yes, in the source debian/control file; let me find a documentation reference for you.
[18:35] <Shock> thanks, I'll dig up from here
[18:35] <Shock> i thought it was dput related
[18:35] <cprov> Shock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#control
[18:36] <Shock> thank you both
[19:17] <bac> hi aruetten
[19:18] <bac> aruetten: if you want to use CDDL please select 'Other/Open Source' and enter the full title of CDDL with an URL to the license in the 'License info' box.
[19:23] <aruetten> bac: thanks
[19:25] <bac> aruetten: ping me here with the name of the project after you create it and i'll approve the license.
[19:49] <Ursinha> hey cprov
[19:49] <cprov> Ursinha: oi
[19:50] <Ursinha> cprov, vc falou que o https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1192G2 tava corrigido
[19:50] <Ursinha> mas ainda tem ocorrencias no lpnet, é normal isso?
[19:50] <cprov> Ursinha: I will check.
[19:50] <Ursinha> cprov, thanks
[19:53] <cprov> Ursinha: there were few broken records in the DB
[19:53] <Ursinha> cprov, I see
[19:53] <cprov> Ursinha: this one, specifically, was fixed by me last night when I saw it.
[19:54] <cprov> Ursinha: I will check if there others
[19:54] <Ursinha> cprov, thanks! I'll let you know if found any other oopses in the next days
[19:55] <cprov> Ursinha: you can tell that they are not new problems by the time they were created.
[19:55] <Ursinha> cprov, yes
[20:20] <mrooney> ahhhhhh I LOVE auto importing of translation templates
[20:21] <bdmurray> bug 88746 keeps timing out for me :-(
[20:22] <beuno> bdmurray, yeah, we're working on the timeouts
[20:22] <bdmurray> beuno: okay, thanks
[20:22] <beuno> bdmurray, the fix should land in edge by tomorrow, and will be CPed over to production as well
[23:03] <maxb> Why does bzr pull take 10 seconds just to figure out that I'm already up-to-date? :-/
[23:03] <mwhudson> maxb: because ssh auth is taking stupidly long at the moment
[23:03] <mwhudson> maxb: try "time ssh bazaar.launchpad.net"
[23:04] <maxb> Ah
[23:04] <maxb> I don't suppose there's something like a lp+http: URL scheme?
[23:07] <mwhudson> no
[23:07] <mwhudson> maxb: the ssh thing should be fixed in a day or so, fwiw
[23:07] <beuno> maxb, but you can still put together the http URL manually
[23:10] <maxb> yes, it's just not quite as amazingly shiny as lp:projectname :-)
[23:10] <beuno> agreed
[23:11] <andersk> I am trying to link bug 356861 to CVE-2009-1250 and CVE-2009-1251, but I get the error "2009-1250 is not a known CVE sequence number."