| JanC | Takyoji: they are most likely correct (IE8 is largely standards-compliant ;) ) | 00:04 |
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| JanC | so what they mean is: "Your browser is standards compliant, our site is not, so we both are incompatible" | 00:05 |
| Takyoji | Heh | 00:18 |
| Takyoji | Because I'm a web developer/designer, and it's not really all that hard to make a website standard compliant. Myself, 17 years of age, self-taught. | 00:19 |
| Takyoji | XHTML 1.0 Strict valid websites | 00:19 |
| Takyoji | Yet companies out there fail to even pass HTML 4 Transitional and claim to be "professional" (just like everyone else) | 00:20 |
| Takyoji | I think I'm eventually going to write my own web crawler in PHP to check over my websites for errors (spelling, syntax error, missing pages, etc). xP | 00:21 |
| * Takyoji curiously wonders what the browser usage statistics of this group of individuals would be. | 00:22 | |
| Takyoji | Otherwise I actually guess the browser he was using was Internet Explorer 7. | 00:23 |
| JanC | Takyoji: writing a website that XHTML 1.0 Strict *and* works in all browsers isn't so easy though... | 00:48 |
| JanC | at least, if you want to do fancy things | 00:49 |
| Takyoji | Yea, it was quite tricky to deal with the shadow part of the Aqua Eden website without things like PNG and so forth. | 01:01 |
| Takyoji | But luckily it's completely valid and renders almost the exact same in all top browsers: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Faquaeden.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 | 01:01 |
| Takyoji | Just wish I could just redo it with something simpler since the part of adding shadows to each box takes like 3 or 4 <div> tags for one box. | 01:02 |
| Takyoji | It's probably people that make IE-only websites are "trained professionals" that just learned "web design" from high school. :P | 01:03 |
| Takyoji | It's pathetic, at my high school, the teacher just has them do only HTML, no CSS, <font> tags, just copy/pasting JS without knowing what it does, using proprietary tags like <spacer>, and a list of other things. Luckily I'll be making the materials that will be used next year. | 01:04 |
| Takyoji | And when I told him that <spacer> tag isn't a real tag in the definition, he just had everyone use the <dd> tag instead (and without closing it of course, and not within a <ul> or <ol>) | 01:05 |
| Takyoji | But, that's just typical high school "web design" I suppose. | 01:09 |
| Takyoji | I'm wondering if my verbosity is irritating at all in this channel to anyone. | 01:50 |
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| bencrisford | Hey everyone, did you get my email on the mailing list? | 21:20 |
| bencrisford | Did anyone get my email? | 21:21 |
| Ben-Crisford | Hi everyone | 22:04 |
| Takyoji | Hello | 22:06 |
| Ben-Crisford | did anyone get my email? | 22:06 |
| Takyoji | Yes, it was received (I'm subscribed to the mailing list) | 22:07 |
| Ben-Crisford | Feedback on the idea? Suggestions for projects? | 22:08 |
| Ben-Crisford | I am still here by the way | 22:08 |
| Takyoji | Alright | 22:08 |
| Ben-Crisford | feedback on the idea though? | 22:09 |
| Takyoji | I'll see if I can generate any ideas | 22:09 |
| Ben-Crisford | thanks | 22:09 |
| Ben-Crisford | I think that if we put our minds to it, joining up with the students could get loads more users | 22:10 |
| Ben-Crisford | we just need a good campaign behind it | 22:12 |
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