[00:29] <bytor4232> In the Firefox profile, which file(s) contain the passwords?
[00:33] <zoredache> signons3.txt looks like a possibility
[00:33] <zoredache> why do you ask?
[00:34] <zoredache> the passwords aren't going to be readable...  If you need to extract passwords, you may need to install one of the password export extenstions
[00:50] <bytor4232> zoredache, I set up a new install and only wanted to copy the bookmarks and passwords
[00:50] <bytor4232> zoredache, I didn't want to copy the whole profile
[00:52] <zoredache> bytor4232: but there is are password export plugins (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848) that you can use.  Explorting/Importing bookmarks is already built in...
[00:52] <bytor4232> zoredache, That would work, except I don't have physical access to the server, just the files themselves.
[00:52] <zoredache> just copying the files may not work, but it shouldn't hut to try
[00:52] <bytor4232> I figured it out.
[00:53] <bytor4232> It did work.
[00:53] <bytor4232> key3.db signons* bookmarks.html places.sqlite*
[00:53] <bytor4232> copied those to the new profile, worked great, all the passwords where there
[01:10] <fo0b4er> Hey, I'm having some problems with updating the new 9.04 beta I just installed, is this the right place to ask for help?
[01:11] <fo0b4er> I'm getting errors from system-tools-backends and gnome-system-tools
[01:28] <n2diy> I'm trying to archive my home directory with Thunar, and I'm getting "Bad descriptor at begining of tape" errors?
[01:36] <fo0b4er> haha found my own solution, ran "sudo killall system-tools-backends" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" and everything worked :) hopefully this helps someone..
[01:39] <bytor4232> Well, I give up
[01:39] <bytor4232> Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy: org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.suspend no <-- (action, result)
[01:39] <bytor4232> I can only suspend my laptop if I do:  sudo pmi action suspend
[01:39] <bytor4232> No button, no sudoless
[01:40] <fo0b4er> do you know if your laptop is using acpi?
[01:41] <fo0b4er> i only ask because forcing it allowed me to suspend my laptop, thats as much as i know
[01:42] <fo0b4er> good luck
[03:12] <lacrymology> hello. I'm running xubuntu in a quite old, quite shitty machine, and for some reason audacious won't play. I dont even know how to diagnose this..
[03:18] <charlie-tca> Do you get sound outside of audacious?
[03:19] <lacrymology> yes
[03:20] <lacrymology> vlc and last.fm work fine, and so does rythmbox, but I hate it
[03:20] <lacrymology> audacious won't even play silently
[03:20] <n2diy> when I try to archive my home directory I get a "bad descriptor at beginning of tape" error, and it aborts?
[03:20] <lacrymology> you press the play button, and nothing happens
[03:21] <lacrymology> n2diy: sounds like your tape drive's header's dirty? =P
[03:21] <n2diy> lacrymology: could be, but there isn't a tape drive involved.
[03:34] <lacrymology> oh well
[04:27] <keres> how do you schedule a disk integrity check?
[05:14] <Brandon_X_Fox> Hello guys, I am trying to make my Logitech usb desktop microphone work, I have tryed lsusb command in terminal and it is recognized.
[05:18] <Brandon_X_Fox> is there anyone out there willing to help me to with my issue?
[05:18] <cody-somerville> Brandon_X_Fox, can you pastebin your ouput of lsusb?
[05:20] <Brandon_X_Fox> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0556:0001 Asahi Kasei Microsystems Co., Ltd AK5370 I/F A/D Converter
[05:20] <Brandon_X_Fox> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:c315 Logitech, Inc. Classic New Touch Keyboard
[05:20] <Brandon_X_Fox> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[05:24] <cody-somerville> !pastebin
[05:27] <thismamacooks200> opengl is not longer working on my system. most apps say: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:29] <Brandon_X_Fox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145943/
[05:30] <cody-somerville> Brandon_X_Fox, can you pastebin the output of dmesg | tail
[05:31] <Brandon_X_Fox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/145945/
[05:40] <cody-somerville> odd, looks like it should work
[05:40] <cody-somerville> If you open up the mixer settings, can you see the device?
[05:41] <Brandon_X_Fox> yes
[05:42] <cody-somerville> So what application do you want to use the mic with?
[05:42] <Brandon_X_Fox> audacity, just to record and playback
[05:42] <Brandon_X_Fox> for youtube etc.
[05:43] <cody-somerville> Let me install audacity and take a looky.
[05:45] <Brandon_X_Fox> cody: ok
[05:47] <cody-somerville> Brandon_X_Fox, Edit > Preferences
[05:47] <Brandon_X_Fox> in audacity?
[05:47] <cody-somerville> Yes. You should be able to change the input/recording device
[05:48] <Brandon_X_Fox> *selects mic*
[05:48] <Brandon_X_Fox> what channe; should I use for it, mono or stereo?
[05:48] <cody-somerville> Stero
[05:48] <cody-somerville> *Stereo
[05:48] <Brandon_X_Fox> got an error
[05:49] <Brandon_X_Fox> error while opening sound device
[05:50] <BigMoopies> does anyone know anything like Sizeme in windows? It will allow you to drag folders/files to it and it will make an ISO for you for however many DVDs or CDs it will take to burn them to a CD/DVD.
[09:58] <Slonkie> Anyone in here using a linux os on their PDA?
[09:59] <tavasti> I have Zaurus, but not much used
[10:00] <tavasti> too big, doesn't fit to my pocket
[10:01] <Slonkie> but how's the system?
[10:01] <Slonkie> as nice as xubuntu? :P
[10:01] <Slonkie> that's for sharp pda's only it seems
[10:10] <gabkdlly> I have Maemo on my Nokia N800, which is not exactly a pda (they call it an internet tablet), and it works quite well
[10:12] <Slonkie> Cool
[10:14] <Slonkie> I'll see if i can get it on my iPAQ rx1950
[10:40] <BigMoopies> can anyone tell me where Sun xVM Virtual Machine installs to ? it isn't /usr/bin/virtualmachine like the old one.
[10:42] <tavasti> BigMoopies, don't think that's included in xubuntu
[10:42] <cody-somerville> BigMoopies, Whats the package name?
[10:43] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, I think I found it.
[10:43] <cody-somerville> ok :)
[10:43] <BigMoopies> or not.
[10:44] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, I see.. It's not "VirtualBox" not virtualbox (whoopity doo )
[10:44] <BigMoopies> it's now*
[10:44] <cody-somerville> Ah
[10:45] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, Would you know why XFCE loads up slower than GNOME ?
[10:45] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, However, once it gets in to the desktop it runs faster
[10:45] <cody-somerville> It shoudln't load slower than gnome
[10:46] <cody-somerville> What version of Xubuntu are you running?
[10:46] <BigMoopies> hady
[10:46] <BigMoopies> hardy
[10:46] <cody-somerville> BigMoopies, Can you relogin to Xfce and then pastebin ~/.xsession-errors for me?
[10:46] <BigMoopies> hm ?
[10:47] <cody-somerville> Do you know how to pastebin something?
[10:47] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, You mean logout of xfce and go to gnome ?
[10:47] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, I am running XFCE now
[10:47] <cody-somerville> What I want you to do is logout and log back into Xfce
[10:47] <BigMoopies> Ok.
[10:47] <cody-somerville> and then pastebin the file located in your home directory called .xsession-errors
[10:48] <BigMoopies> brb then
[10:51] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, what was the pastebin site you wanted me to use
[10:51] <cody-somerville> pastebin.ubuntu.com works
[10:51] <BigMoopies> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/146094/
[10:52] <BigMoopies> cody-somerville, I also took off the splash screen animation and it seems to have gone a little faster
[10:55] <cody-somerville> BigMoopies, It looks like you're starting a lot of stuff at login
[10:55] <BigMoopies> orange and pidgin
[10:55] <cody-somerville> BigMoopies, I recommend you go to Applications > Settings > Setting Manager and then click Session and Startup
[10:55] <cody-somerville> BigMoopies, Click on the Application Autostart tab
[10:56] <BigMoopies> I don't see that
[10:56] <BigMoopies> General/Advanced
[10:56] <cody-somerville> hmm, may be because I'm running Jaunty, heh
[10:56] <cody-somerville> Anyhow, it looks like you're starting tracker
[10:56] <cody-somerville> and evolution stuff
[10:56] <BigMoopies> I always want to call Jaunty Jackalope , "Jimmy jiggalo"
[10:57] <BigMoopies> for some reason
[10:57] <Slonkie> i don't see General/Advanced in jaunty lol
[10:57] <BigMoopies> oh
[10:57] <BigMoopies> Autostarted Apps ?
[10:58] <BigMoopies> pidgin,  network manager , volume manager, hardware drivers check , update notifier, pulse audio , power management , tracker applet , tracker , print que applet
[10:59] <BigMoopies> what the heck is tracker ?
[10:59] <Myrtti> it's a tool that indexes your files and stuff
[10:59] <Myrtti> so you can search it with the tracker applet which you seem to start as well
[10:59] <BigMoopies> Myrtti, is that even needed? I always turned that off in XP
[10:59] <Myrtti> it takes a lot of resources, and isn't even installed by default in xubuntu, IIRC
[11:00] <BigMoopies> It must be part of the GNOME apps left over?
[11:00] <Myrtti> yup
[11:00] <BigMoopies> OK, so I can axe it ?
[11:00] <Myrtti> yup
[11:01] <BigMoopies> along with applet ?
[11:02] <Myrtti> if you axe the tracker, the applet is useless
[11:02] <BigMoopies> shall I logout/in again and see what happens ?
[11:03] <BigMoopies> OK
[11:05] <BigMoopies> do I need to stop tracker-applet and trackerd ?
[11:07] <Myrtti> I assume they both will stop when you log out
[11:07] <BigMoopies> ok
[11:09] <BigMoopies> It's coming up acceptable now.
[11:11] <BigMoopies> I think that machine is running better too without it.
[11:18] <BigMoopies> There aint no cloacking/IP hiding on this network?
[11:58] <Name141> oh yeah.. I forgot one thing.  Is it possible to use WINE for drivers ?
[11:59] <Name141> I have  a photo printer that only is supported in XP/2K
[11:59] <Name141> that is only
[12:39] <jaume1> anyone can help me_ I have a problem with my OS
[12:39] <Slonkie> !ask
[12:41] <jaume1> ok thanks
[12:42] <jaume1> i have a problem with my CD reader, so when I try to install Xubuntu, the instalation package told me that any error on read or write occurs
[12:42] <jaume1> then I installed windoes
[12:42] <jaume1> windows XP and install ubuntu from USB
[12:43] <jaume1> So now i have installed XP and Xubuntu
[12:43] <jaume1> I want to uninstall XP
[12:43] <jaume1> how I can do?
[12:44] <Slonkie> boot up the windows XP cd, go to the point where your able to delete partitations, and delete it i'd say.
[12:45] <jaume1> obviously these action don't touch LINUX ?
[12:46] <Noisia> Not if Linux is installed on it's own partition (not using wubi).
[12:46] <Slonkie> took the words out of my mouth
[12:46] <tavasti> if you want to get rid of windows, you don't need any windows cd, boot to windows, etc
[12:47] <jaume1> i.m not sure if both oS are in the same partition
[12:47] <tavasti> jaume1, run 'sudo fdisk -l'
[12:47] <jaume1> when i execute partition editor I only see one
[12:49] <jaume1> tavasti, sorry but i'm terribly new with linux, how I can run -sudo fdisk -I
[12:50] <jaume1> with the terminal?
[12:50] <Noisia> yes and it's a lowercase L, not an I
[12:51] <jaume1> I have run
[12:51] <jaume1> what else
[12:52] <jaume1> :-/
[12:52] <Noisia> the output should give you a clue to your hard drive/partition scheme
[12:52] <jaume1> there is only one
[12:52] <jaume1> entry
[12:52] <Slonkie> paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <jaume1> done
[12:53] <Slonkie> give us the link
[12:54] <jaume1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/146173/
[12:54] <Slonkie> seems like you've got windows and xubuntu on same partitition
[12:54] <Slonkie> partition*
[12:54] <jaume1> oh oh
[12:55] <jaume1> the i have to unistall windows with the CD?
[12:55] <Slonkie> no
[12:55] <Slonkie> What you'll need is to install xubuntu all over afaik.. there might be another solution tho, but i don't know of it.
[12:56] <jaume1> i don-t understand sorry, what-s the mean of all over afaik_
[12:58] <TheSheep> you installed xubuntu with wubi *into* a file on your windows partition
[12:58] <TheSheep> so if you delete it now, you will delete both windows and xubuntu
[12:58] <TheSheep> you'd have to install xubuntu again, this time not using wubi
[12:59] <TheSheep> there is an option to use entire disk when installing
[12:59] <TheSheep> this will of course delete everything you have on that computer, windows included
[12:59] <jaume1> but when i try from CD an error ocur, i thnk that error is from CD driver, because
[13:00] <jaume1> i have check the integrity of CD in other laptop and it-s correct
[13:00] <Noisia> what's the error?
[13:00] <TheSheep> try burning the cd with the slowest possible speed
[13:01] <TheSheep> old cd drives often have trouble with disks burned with high speeds
[13:01] <jaume1> i have burnt the CD at lowest possible
[13:01] <TheSheep> you can also try installing from usb or through network
[13:01] <TheSheep> !install | jaume1
[13:02] <jaume1> ok
[13:02] <jaume1> thanks guys
[13:03] <jaume1> see you soon  (I hope)
[13:05] <Slonkie> heh
[13:25] <Slonkie> anyone using bluetooth in xubuntu and only being able to transfer files to device, and not from device? a
[13:25] <Slonkie> I've tried 3 different devices they all appear with a "key" in the bluetooth manager
[13:28] <dingding> ikonia
[14:08] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: ping
[14:11] <Pres-Gas> No route to host
[14:12] <Pres-Gas> 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1014ms
[14:28] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, pong
[14:29] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: http://portableubuntu.sourceforge.net/ <--- is that by any chance in violation of Ubuntu Trademark guidelines?
[14:30] <cody-somerville> I'll ask, one second.
[14:31] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: okies :)
[14:32] <itstegg> hi.  i am using xubuntu dapper drake 6.06 for powerpc.  the drop down menu appears when clicked then disappears independantly after 3 seconds.  where can i change this setting ?
[14:33] <vinnl> That's not a setting, sounds more like a bug
[14:33] <itstegg> oh.
[14:33] <maxamillion> itstegg: i might recommend you get a more recent release ... i think 6.06 is out of support and will no longer get updates
[14:33] <vinnl> !bugs
[14:33] <vinnl> maxamillion, not yet, but it won't take long before that happens, so yeah, an update it recommended
[14:33] <itstegg> well, i image the answer is to upgrade but this is an offline computer
[14:34] <maxamillion> vinnl: ah, didn't know dapper was still getting updates :)
[14:34]  * maxamillion is out of the loop
[14:34] <vinnl> ^.^
[14:34] <cody-somerville> maxamillion, It appears its currently under review by legal.
[14:36] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: ah, ok ... just wanted to ping you on it because it was sent across the fedora-devel list as a cool idea and someone from fedora-legal kinda spoke up and said that we should bring that to Canonical/Ubuntu's attention
[14:37] <cody-somerville> Cool :)
[15:50] <Pres-Gas> hmmm...anyone running jaunty server 64 yet?  I cannot find denyhosts and want a confirmation.
[15:51] <charlie-tca> You may need to create it yourself
[15:52] <Pres-Gas> Hmmmm...has only been built fo 1386 ATM it would seem
[15:53]  * Pres-Gas rereads the launchpad area (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/denyhosts/2.6-5)
[16:21] <Slonkie> Broadcom wifi cards are still a pain in the ass with xubuntu right?
[16:22] <cody-somerville> not so much anymore
[16:23] <Slonkie> hmm
[16:27] <rocko> yes very true
[16:27] <rocko> they have free software ones now too
[16:27] <rocko> not sure if you ubuntu has them yet
[16:30] <Slonkie> is it possible to mark all text in nano?
[16:32] <marcPV> hola
[16:33] <vinnl> Hi
[16:33] <marcPV> hi everyone
[16:33] <marcPV> anyone know how to manage partitions in xubuntu?
[16:34] <vinnl> You can install Gparted
[16:34] <marcPV> its not installed by default?
[16:35] <vinnl> No
[16:35] <marcPV> ok so i go to add applications and just look for it right?
[16:36] <vinnl> Yes
[16:36] <marcPV> thanks
[16:36] <vinnl> np :)
[16:37] <marcPV> hey this chat is really a good help
[16:37] <rocko> saluton
[16:37] <rocko> hola
[16:37] <rocko> bonjour
[16:37] <rocko> moin moin
[16:37] <rocko> hallo
[16:37] <rocko> was ist los?
[16:37] <vinnl> Heh yeah it is ;-)
[16:37] <rocko> kiel vi fartas?
[16:37] <vinnl> rocko, please
[16:37] <rocko> how are you?
[16:37] <vinnl> :)
[16:37] <marcPV> bona vesprada, bye everyone
[16:37] <vinnl> Bye marcPV
[16:37] <rocko> why vinnl ?
[16:38] <rocko> not everyone can understand English
[16:38] <vinnl> rocko, a sound gets played for me every time something is said, so if you say so many lines, that gets annoying quickly ;-)
[16:38] <rocko> why not use the majority every time you say something
[16:38] <rocko> so that every one can understand
[16:38] <vinnl> Well, if you include all those languages to say the same thing *on one line*, it wouldn't really be a problem
[16:39] <vinnl> Now, however, you're flooding the channel, as it's called
[16:39] <rocko> I see vinnl why don't you turn that off
[16:39] <vinnl> rocko, because mostly people say one thing at a time and then I get notified of that :)
[16:39] <rocko> I turn it off
[16:39] <rocko> it wastes system resources
[16:40] <Slonkie> rocko why don't you just understand that this is an ENGLISH only channel. if you need to speak another language go to the specific channel for the language if there is one
[16:40] <rocko> I speak English
[16:41] <rocko> but why can't we be multilingual ?
[16:41] <vinnl> Because we'd like to be able to understand everything that is said here
[16:41] <rocko> I see
[16:42] <rocko> well i meant like saying your statements in English then in other languages that means the same thing
[16:42] <vinnl> Yeah but... What's the added value of that?
[16:42] <rocko> so you use the English version so you can understand
[16:42] <rocko> so that everyone can understand you
[16:43] <vinnl> If you speak English everybody here can understand you as well
[16:44] <rocko> do we have technologies now like that you can have a thing that has voice reconicion for languages to be translated into another language or to put it in should a way that the wearier understands everything without adjusting the language preferences ?
[16:45] <rocko> like those things that where in sci fi movies with aliens visitors
[16:45] <vinnl> I'm afraid not :P
[16:45] <rocko> :(
[16:45] <rocko> that would be cool
[16:46] <rocko> a lot of that stuff that was in past sci fi films is now a reality
[17:22] <n2diy> ! usb
[17:54] <caillean> hallo :-)
[17:54] <caillean> which language is spoken here?
[17:57] <bigzed> can someone tell me how i can change the system default keyboard layout?
[18:00] <charlie-tca> caillean: English
[18:00] <charlie-tca> bigzed: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard
[18:01] <bigzed> i've done this already but the loginscreen and dm-crypt use the old layout
[18:01] <charlie-tca> caillean: would a different language be better for you?
[18:02] <bigzed> so i wonder how i can change this
[18:02] <charlie-tca> bigzed: you would probably have to change the system locale settings
[18:02] <charlie-tca> !locale
[18:03] <bigzed> could it be that the xorg.conf doesnt exist in xubuntu?
[18:03] <charlie-tca> xorg.conf does not exist in 8.10 and later, I think, Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu
[18:03] <charlie-tca> You can create it if needed and just use the sections needed.
[18:05] <bigzed> mhm ok both packages which are mentioned in this article arent installed...
[18:06] <J_Litewski> what would cause a kernel failure?
[18:06] <bigzed> i think i first upgrade to 9.04
[18:06] <J_Litewski> more correctly, a xorg failure related to a kernel failure
[18:07] <bigzed> is this related to my problem
[18:07] <J_Litewski> no, this is my problem
[18:07] <bigzed> ok
[18:08] <bigzed> what exactly is your problem? New hardware or a failure at all?
[18:09] <J_Litewski> well, xorg was failing to show my screen because the kernel couldn't write to the RAM
[18:09] <J_Litewski> thus, it was writing to the swap file
[18:10] <J_Litewski> putting the computer in a infinite loop of writing and reading
[18:10] <J_Litewski> i had to run the recovery kernel and reinstall most of xfce to get it to work
[18:11] <J_Litewski> i also ran top while in the recovery kernel, and i noticed over 90% of my ram was being used, but no program was using it
[18:13] <J_Litewski> i also ran (and re-ran) memtest86+, passed everything
[18:17] <J_Litewski> i think i need more RAM...
[18:18] <J_Litewski> or a fresh install
[18:20] <icanhascheezburg> hello
[18:20] <J_Litewski> !hi
[18:20] <icanhascheezburg> I am about to build a new computer
[18:20] <icanhascheezburg> need advice
[18:20] <icanhascheezburg> do the ati linux drivers still suck
[18:20] <J_Litewski> not sure, ask in #ati
[18:20] <charlie-tca> not ALL of them, no
[18:20] <icanhascheezburg> anyone here using a recent ati radeon like the 4850 or 4870
[18:21] <charlie-tca> Threw all my ATI cards out
[18:21] <J_Litewski> charlie, why?
[18:21] <charlie-tca> tired of fighting with the drivers
[18:22] <J_Litewski> ah
[18:24] <J_Litewski> whats a good terminal-based IRC client?
[18:24] <Slonkie> irssi
[18:26] <J_Litewski> if i install the irssi plugin for pidgin, will it work the smae?
[18:26] <Slonkie> no idea
[18:26] <J_Litewski> kk, i'm going to try then
[18:41] <caillean> ok, i will try in english ;-)
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[18:42] <caillean> i installed xubuntu for a friend, i usually use kde :-)  the problem is that the xfce4 panel disappears sometimes
[18:43] <caillean> it comes back when i type in the window, which appears when pressing alt+f2  xfce4-panel
[18:43] <caillean> i wonder why it disappears?
[18:44] <charlie-tca> He doesn't get any failures?
[18:44] <cody-somerville> what does dmesg | tail say?
[18:45] <caillean> ok, when he comes online i will look at his pc whith vnc, then i will see what dmesg | tail  says
[18:45] <cody-somerville> caillean, after it disappears though
[18:45] <caillean> no failures , he didnt say anything
[18:48] <caillean> i wonder if you can remove the panel perhaps whith a shortcut?
[18:49] <CrazyGir> where are pdfs saved when printing with cups-pdf?
[18:53] <charlie-tca> I thought they were saved in ~/ ; but I could be wrong. I never use it.
[18:56] <hackhalotwo> testing
[18:56] <J_Litewski> sweet
[18:56] <J_Litewski> alright, that works
[18:58] <J_Litewski> that really needs to be placed into the recovery kernel, so people can connect to irc.freenode.net and get help
[18:58] <charlie-tca> What did you do?
[18:58] <J_Litewski> i opened irssi and tested it
[19:00] <CrazyGir> charlie-tca: there's a directory ~/PDF, but it's empty
[19:01] <charlie-tca> CrazyGir: I don't know then.
[19:04] <J_Litewski> damn, why is it logged into root?
[19:09] <J_Litewski> thats better
[20:02] <CrazyGir> hrm
[20:36] <CrazyGir> charlie-tca: that's the default location
[20:36] <CrazyGir> cups-pdf has a log though: Tue Apr  7 12:57:22 2009  [ERROR] failed to set file mode for PDF file (non fatal) (/home/user/conf/PDF/test.pdf)
[20:37] <CrazyGir> not really sure why
[20:37] <charlie-tca> But they don't show up there or is it not saving them, I wonder?
[20:38] <charlie-tca> Hmm, mine asks where to save it, just like other save dialogs
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Is it perhaps the application itself?
[20:46] <CrazyGir> I wish it asked where to
[20:46] <CrazyGir> that would be nice :)
[20:47] <cody-somerville> There is two options
[20:47] <cody-somerville> Print to file
[20:47] <cody-somerville> and print to PDF
[20:47] <cody-somerville> I believe PDF goes to ~/PDF/
[20:47] <cody-somerville> Whereas the print to file provides the ability to select the destination
[20:47] <Slonkie> Can you print any document to any kinda file?
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Maybe depends on the app. Gimp lets you print a pdf anywhere
[20:48] <cody-somerville> I haven't tried it with Jaunty
[20:48] <cody-somerville> Maybe its a new feature
[20:48] <cody-somerville> Let me try
[20:48] <cody-somerville> Ah indeed
[20:48] <cody-somerville> There is only print to file, no more print to pdf
[20:48] <Slonkie> anybody know a way of making .mw files to .pdf?
[20:48] <cody-somerville> and that lets you select the file type
[20:49] <cody-somerville> MacWrite?
[20:49] <cody-somerville> Try opening it with Open Office and saving it as a pdf
[20:49] <Slonkie> Doesn't work
[20:50] <cody-somerville> What is a .mw file?
[20:50] <Slonkie> Maple file
[20:53] <Slonkie> anyway.. am i the only one for whom gigolo doesn't work?
[20:53] <cody-somerville> I've had a little bit of difficulty with it at times
[20:54] <Memfis> Evening, has anyone managed to get dual displays working with ltsp5? Only thing I can find on google is a mention of a pdf from disklessworkstations that doesn't exist anymore.
[20:54] <Slonkie> my laptop (wireless connected) should be able to connect to a windows share at my mediacenter (wired connected) right?
[20:55] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, yup
[20:55] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, Do you see the computer in the browser?
[20:55] <Slonkie> is gigolo "the browser"? :P
[20:56] <Slonkie> gvfs-open: smb://stmc/sp/: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file
[20:56] <Slonkie> That's the error i'm getting
[20:59] <cody-somerville> hmm
[21:01] <cody-somerville> I get that that location is not mounted
[21:02] <cody-somerville> Do you have the gvfs server and stuff installed?
[21:06] <Slonkie> not that i know if
[21:06] <Slonkie> If it's not "built in" i don't have it
[21:07] <attitudeless> Could someone please help me with installing the Adobe Flash Plugin for Firefox??
[21:08] <Slonkie> Should i install the package "gvfs" cody-somerville ?
[21:08] <ikonia> attitudeless: you're using ubuntu - as you know, not xubuntu
[21:08] <cody-somerville> attitudeless, sure
[21:08] <attitudeless> I have a AMD 64 processor, and when I download the .deb file from Adobe it says my architecture isn't i386
[21:09] <ikonia> attitudeless: as I told you in #ubuntu you need to install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[21:09] <attitudeless> I'm aware I have Ubuntu, however there is a very rude user in the other room, so I will look to more friendly people to answer my questions.
[21:09] <attitudeless> WOW you're everywhere
[21:09] <cody-somerville> Slonkie, You don't already have that installed?
[21:09] <ikonia> attitudeless: no - you are banned from #ubuntu that's why you're here
[21:09] <charlie-tca> attitudeless: If you have the AMD64, it is not i386, so that is correct
[21:09] <Slonkie> yes i noticed i do, cody-somerville.
[21:10] <cody-somerville> attitudeless, Does installing adobe-flashplugin not work?
[21:10] <attitudeless> ﻿ikonia- Please just leave me alone. I don't want to deal with you anymore. If you were not so up tight about a PM you would have found out that upon executing your ﻿flashplugin-nonfree command in the terminal it gave me an error.
[21:11] <ikonia> attitudeless: you said that, I asked you the error
[21:11] <attitudeless> E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree
[21:11] <ikonia> attitudeless what command did you use, exactly
[21:11] <attitudeless> sudo apt-get install E: Invalid operation flashplugin-nonfree
[21:12] <attitudeless> oops! sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:12] <ikonia> attitudeless: and you get E: Invalid operation ?
[21:12] <attitudeless> That is correct
[21:12] <ikonia> attitudeless: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[21:13] <attitudeless> Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:15:37 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:14] <ikonia> so a 8.04 install
[21:14] <attitudeless> Correct
[21:14] <ikonia> attitudeless: what happens if you do "sudo apt-get install conky" (it should install a small package that is just used for a test)
[21:15] <charlie-tca> ikonia: being a 64-bit system, it probably won't work with the 32-bit plugin, will it?
[21:15] <ikonia> charlie-tca: yes it will
[21:15] <attitudeless> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install conky
[21:15] <attitudeless> Reading package lists... Done
[21:15] <attitudeless> Building dependency tree
[21:15] <attitudeless> Reading state information... Done
[21:15] <attitudeless> E: Couldn't find package conky
[21:15] <ikonia> attitudeless: thats fine,
[21:15] <ikonia> attitudeless: although concerning that you can't see conky
[21:15] <ikonia> attitudeless: sudo apt-get update
[21:16] <attitudeless> done
[21:16] <ikonia> now try conky again
[21:16] <attitudeless> Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Sources [903B]
[21:16] <attitudeless> Fetched 835kB in 6s (126kB/s)
[21:16] <attitudeless> Reading package lists... Done
[21:16] <attitudeless> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install conky
[21:16] <attitudeless> Reading package lists... Done
[21:16] <attitudeless> Building dependency tree
[21:16] <attitudeless> Reading state information... Done
[21:16] <attitudeless> E: Couldn't find package conky
[21:16] <ikonia> attitudeless: apt-cache search conky
[21:16] <Slonkie> http://paste.ubuntu.com please!
[21:17] <ikonia> (I know conky is not the problem however there does appear to be something more rooted as a problem)
[21:17] <attitudeless> lol okay :)
[21:17] <attitudeless> it just executed it
[21:18] <cody-somerville> attitudeless, Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[21:19] <attitudeless> bash: pastebin: command not found
[21:19] <ikonia> !pastebin > attitudeless
[21:19] <cody-somerville> pastebin isn't a command
[21:19] <cody-somerville> Visit http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <cody-somerville> and paste the contents of the file there
[21:19] <cody-somerville> Then paste the link to the page you create here
[21:21] <attitudeless> Blah, I gotta go. Thanks for the help though.
[21:21] <attitudeless> I guess I will be going back to Windows +o(
[21:21] <cody-somerville> Ok
[21:21] <cody-somerville> Feel free to return when you'd like to try again
[21:22] <ikonia> had to leave - signed straight back in as crazeEEEE420
[21:33] <Rob> hello I have a tech question?
[21:33] <charlie-tca> !question
[21:34] <Rob> I am trying to view other computers on my network and cannot find where to do that any help would be awesome
[21:38] <zoredache> it depends on what you mean by 'view' if you meaan that you want to access windows file shares, then you should look at installing something like pyneighborhood, or fusesmb
[21:38] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[21:40] <Rob> actually when I open applications - system - shouldnt there be a options for network in this menu?
[21:40] <charlie-tca> not in xubuntu
[21:41] <charlie-tca> It is not needed for many people, so why waste the resources ?
[21:41] <Rob> the only reason I ask is because I just switched from ubuntu and looked at the xubuntu documentation and that is where it says I should go to
[21:42] <charlie-tca> Is it Shared Folders?
[21:42] <zoredache> what document are you looking at?  Is it online?  Perhaps the documentation is out of date and needs to be updated
[21:43] <Rob> another place in the documentation says go to places - network but it isnt there either
[21:44] <Rob> was a link through the help menu
[21:44] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu?
[21:44] <Rob> 8.10
[21:45] <Rob> i am just trying to send files back to my computer that I sent off it when switching from ubuntu to xubuntu
[21:45] <charlie-tca> I think it should be Applications -> System-> Shared Folders , but I will research it later in the docs
[21:46] <charlie-tca> I use NFS and SSH to send files back and forth
[21:46] <zoredache> The help menu brings up firefox on my system and has a local uri (file://...) if you can tell what page has that information it would help in getting that part of the docs updated
[21:46] <Rob> ok just a few moments please
[21:48] <zoredache> charlie-tca: does jaunty have the smb thunar patches?
[21:49] <charlie-tca> I don't know, never use smb here. It does have gigolo, for connecting to windows systems
[21:49] <charlie-tca> I thought the smb thunar patch went away when we accepted giglol
[21:49] <charlie-tca> gigolo
[21:49] <zoredache> maybe, I haven't been paying close attention lately
[21:50] <zoredache> something better then fusesmb, or manually mounting things sure would be nice
[21:51] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: you still here? comments on gigolo
[21:51] <Slonkie> Yep
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Know anything about file sharing with windows?
[21:52] <Slonkie> depends what you mean
[21:53] <charlie-tca> Is it any easier than fusesmb?
[21:54] <Slonkie> i diden't true fusesmb
[21:54] <charlie-tca> well, nm
[21:54] <Slonkie> what's that? an gui for samba or?
[21:54] <charlie-tca> fusesmb is not gui, it is manual labor, I think
[21:54] <zoredache> fusesmb isn't that hard really, it just is stupid because a) your passwords are stored in plain text on the drive b) it doesn't work well with domains)
[21:55] <Slonkie> password for what?
[21:55] <zoredache> or authenticating to the smb server
[21:55] <Pres-Gas> mount.cifs is the way to go really
[21:55] <zoredache> for*
[21:56] <zoredache> Pres-Gas: it gets painful when I access over 15 different servers during the day, and some of them have semi-unreiable connectivity
[21:57] <Pres-Gas> hmmmm...if connectivity is unreliable, there is no real good solutionfor that
[21:58] <zoredache> well the point is, that I don't want the connection to stay mounted unless I am currently using it
[21:58] <nineteenfingers> hey folks... i usually use openSUSE so the wonderful world of *buntu isn't too familiar to me... i'm trying to straighten out a pretty gutless (malware riddled) desktop machine for a relative and since i can't get the suse liveCD to work on here i thought i'd give Xubuntu on here - it's my intention to grab some files from the NTFS partition, push them to another machine for safe keeping, and then obliterate the NTFS partition wi
[21:58] <nineteenfingers> th the built in system-restore feature that came with the machine - then dual boot XP and Linux on it... is there an Xubuntu live CD i can get that'll let me do that stuff? (oh, and i'm only very new to linux myself - i've been dabbling with suse for a few versions now but please consider me a newbie when giving any advice)
[21:58] <Slonkie> Pres-Gas what is mount.cifs?
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Yes, the desktop cd is also a live cd
[21:58] <zoredache> the command line tool for mounting cifs filesystems
[21:59] <Pres-Gas> !smbfs
[21:59] <zoredache> (aka smb1)
[21:59] <charlie-tca> You can download it at http://xubuntu.org/get
[22:00] <nineteenfingers> charlie-tca - and it'll let me access the NTFS partition and push files from that accross a network to an NTFS partition on an XP machine with no linux distro on it? (user abilities allowing of course)
[22:00] <zoredache> it will possible to do that, it will be somewhat tricky though
[22:00] <Slonkie> Anybody aware of an application which will be able to syncronise a folder to an USB stick everytime i plug it in?
[22:01] <zoredache> there isn't any gui installed by default that will allow you to access the network
[22:01] <charlie-tca> A partition should be a partition, as far as it is concerned. It is going across the network that may give issues
[22:01] <Slonkie> windows shares seems hard to get connected to :p
[22:03] <nineteenfingers> right... any suggestions as to a good way to go about this then? i've got a fallback plan going XP to XP to back up these files (all 15.3GB of them - most of them utterly terrible webcam photos i've been begged to save for some reason) but since the machine i'm trying to fix is full of malware i really want to avoid that if possible
[22:04] <Slonkie> well if you only need it to transfer you chould use FTP
[22:04] <nineteenfingers> i might be able to find a 1GB USB stick if that helps matters at all
[22:04] <zoredache> Slonkie: I am not aware of anything.  I suspect I would build a script using unison.  I would thend look around for some what to get the script triggered by whatever is automatically mounting the drive
[22:05] <Slonkie> all right, seems a little too advanced for me.. only been using xubuntu for about a month.
[22:05] <nineteenfingers> Slonkie - i need to transfer a big folder to another computer and then get it back after i've kicked the original box into shape
[22:05] <nineteenfingers> not sure how to go about doing it with ftp though
[22:05] <zoredache> nineteenfingers:  if you have a spare USB drive that is formated fat, that you could make your backup too, that might be easier then backing up accross the network
[22:06] <Slonkie> well surely that is an easier way of doing it
[22:06] <nineteenfingers> zoredache - i've got a 1GB drive and 15.3GB of files to back up
[22:06] <Slonkie> oh
[22:06] <nineteenfingers> haha
[22:06] <Slonkie> Well installing an Free FTP server on your XP pc and then transfering trough FTP is quite easy
[22:07] <Slonkie> local i'm supposing
[22:07] <nineteenfingers> err - as in both on the same network? yea - i'm sitting it my computer between the origin and target machines - all will be hooked up through a router
[22:07] <Slonkie> all right
[22:07] <zoredache> nineteenfingers: you could buy one...   If anything, I think this should be a reminder to you that you need to get a way to have your data backed up seperate from your computer
[22:08] <nineteenfingers> though i could use an ethernet cable (got a crossover lying around somewhere too) to hook one right into the other if i need to
[22:08] <Slonkie> i suppose it 100mbit or above, so 15gb will take about ~30 mins trough ftp
[22:08] <Slonkie> it's
[22:08] <nineteenfingers> zoredache - yea i'm convinced on that matter - just need to get the cash to buy the hardware i need to set up a proper backup system - the folk who own this computer won't be doing that though - money issues
[22:10] <zoredache> anyway, if you get the livecd mounted, and you have an ftp server somewhere on your network, then you should be able to install something like 'gftp-gtk' in the live enviroment and then transfer files
[22:13] <nineteenfingers> before i start this Xubuntu download... 8.10 or 8.04.1? i'm not so much interested in bleeding edge as in a stable system for my auntie to use while her daughters run the XP partition into the ground like usual - she's somewhat computer illiterate and i don't want to be involved too much
[22:14] <Slonkie> 8.10
[22:14] <zoredache> either should be fine, both are pretty stable
[22:15] <zoredache> 8.04 will be supported with security updates a lot longer
[22:16] <Slonkie> wow
[22:16] <nineteenfingers> much difference between them in use? compatibility with software?
[22:16] <forces> 8.04 is the most stable
[22:16] <nineteenfingers> i just thought.... did i just ask a bit of a hot question? i hope not :p
[22:19] <zoredache> nineteenfingers: almost every version of every linux distro is going to have quircks here and there. and depending on how you use the computer you may notice them more with one or the other.  There is nothing in iether 8.04, or 8.10 that is badly broke.  The xorg in 8.10 works better with my video hardware, but may be completely irrelavent to you
[22:21] <nineteenfingers> ah ok - that's as i'd hoped - i think i'll go with 8.04 purely for the security updates thing in that case... i think she'd be more comfortable with that as she worries a lot about security (rightly so with the kind of abuse the system gets from her daughters)
[22:22] <nineteenfingers> though of course, even the most insecure linux system is probably going to be safer than any XP machine in that house :p
[23:46] <shadytim> hi everyone
[23:47] <shadytim> anyone try the intuos4
[23:48] <shadytim> chirp chirp
[23:50] <zoredache> did you have a question, or did you just running a poll?
[23:53] <zoredache> This is a pretty small channel, you might be better off asking that question on ubuntuforums or something.  I suspect that it is pretty unlikely that you will find many active people on IRC that have experience with a particular piece of hardware that was just released a week ago