| Riddell | apachelogger: list of desktop translation files we need is now in pkg-kde-tools | 00:58 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: sponsor a netbook. not sure but worth a shot, ask rick to see if he can do anything | 00:59 |
| jjesse | question on kontact: if i suspend/resume kontact loses it connection to gmail and the only reason i can get it to sync back to gmail is to close kontact and open it back up, any thoughts? | 01:02 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: if you don't get anyone to sponser your netbook, i will test as much as i can on my mini 9.... i'm already running jaunty on it | 01:02 |
| jjesse | question: running jaunty i have not seen any update notification coming my way, only way i know there is update is to run apt-get update apt-get upgrade | 01:09 |
| Riddell | jjesse: do you have update-notifier-kde running? | 01:11 |
| jjesse | Riddell: don't know how would i check? | 01:12 |
| Riddell | ps -ef | grep update-notifer-kde | 01:12 |
| jjesse | hrmm no i don't | 01:12 |
| Riddell | jjesse: do you have /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/mainloop/qt.so ? | 01:12 |
| jjesse | wonder why | 01:13 |
| Riddell | you may not if you upgraded from intrepid | 01:13 |
| jjesse | nope i don't, and i did upgrade from intrepid | 01:14 |
| Riddell | jjesse: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python-qt4-dbus should sort it | 01:22 |
| Riddell | I hope mvo has fixed that upgrade bug | 01:22 |
| === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler | ||
| jjesse | wow getting all kinds of apport crashes now that that python-qt4-dbus is reinstalled | 01:37 |
| kb9vqf | Any ideas why the remastered CD would reboot the system just as it displays the graphical boot menu? | 01:47 |
| kb9vqf | Or, who knows more about the LiveCD boot than I do? ;-) | 01:47 |
| freinhard | kmail does not depend on akonadi? | 01:48 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| jjesse | intersting amarok is now reporting i need to install the mpeg plugins, but when i go install it, i'm told it is installed already | 01:55 |
| jjesse | wow i must have had a lot of crashes that i didn't know about before reinstalling python-qt4-dbus | 02:13 |
| kb9vqf | in case anyone in the future wonders how to fix the LiveCD problem: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=44&func=view&catid=3&id=1066 | 02:56 |
| * kb9vqf wonders why reconstructor is SO buggy | 02:56 | |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| kb9vqf | Riddell: I'm uploading the completed Jaunty KDE3.5 AMD64 image to my website now...what should I do next to get them (or links to them) onto the Kubuntu website? | 04:55 |
| DaskreecH | kb9vqf: reconstructor is FOSS ? | 04:57 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Yes. It's not part of the LiveCD though, just used to create it | 04:57 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: It's all written in Python | 04:57 |
| DaskreecH | There's your problem right there | 04:58 |
| * DaskreecH trolls | 04:58 | |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: ??? | 04:58 |
| DaskreecH | :) | 04:58 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Ahh....don't like Python. Me either :) | 04:58 |
| kb9vqf | C | 04:59 |
| DaskreecH | kb9vqf: You are planning on serving them from your server ? | 04:59 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: If I could get them on the Kubuntu mirrors, that would be best. Otherwise, I don't have another option | 04:59 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: other than to serve them from here | 04:59 |
| DaskreecH | ok probably want to put up a torrents as well | 04:59 |
| DaskreecH | a set of | 05:00 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Good point. Will anyone here be able to help seed? I only have 150k up | 05:00 |
| DaskreecH | Sure I'll help seed | 05:00 |
| * kb9vqf looks into ktorrent's abilities | 05:00 | |
| DaskreecH | :-) | 05:00 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I'll try to get torrents up in the next hour or so, if all goes well. | 05:01 |
| DaskreecH | poke #ubuntu-motu and ask about torrent.ubuntu.com | 05:01 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I wonder if we can reclaim some of the people who jumped over to OpenSUSE and Debian | 05:02 |
| DaskreecH | Meh :) | 05:02 |
| DaskreecH | doesn't make much of a difference if they don't help out | 05:02 |
| DaskreecH | If we can get people more involved I'll count it as a win | 05:03 |
| DaskreecH | as it stands right now Kubuntu is the whipping boy for bad things in KDE Distro land | 05:03 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Well, that's what you get for running bleeding edge software ;-) | 05:03 |
| DaskreecH | Kubuntu isn't really bleeding edge :) Certainly rough enough to bruise | 05:04 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Yeah, really it was more of an image thing because KDE4.0 wasn't mature upstream, I guess. | 05:05 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: So the earliest adopter got the worst press | 05:05 |
| DaskreecH | Yeah but we didn't ship KDE 4.0 at any time | 05:05 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Oops, I meant 4.1 | 05:05 |
| DaskreecH | Fedora did | 05:05 |
| DaskreecH | and everyone blamed Kubuntu | 05:05 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Odd. | 05:05 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Users. :-) | 05:05 |
| DaskreecH | Yeah that's what I mean by Whipping boy | 05:06 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Gotcha | 05:06 |
| DaskreecH | Ubuntu's clim to fame is polishing up things for first time users | 05:06 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: You know, that's what brought me over to Kubuntu from Fedora. That and the wonderful Debian package management system | 05:07 |
| DaskreecH | Kubuntu doesn't get near the same amount of care or manpower despite having a very large chunk of users of the the Ubuntu Family install base | 05:07 |
| DaskreecH | If we have more users and less people working on the polish it means little | 05:07 |
| DaskreecH | Things like mentioning KDE on ubuntu's brainstorm means it's instantly going to go into negative votes isn't helping | 05:08 |
| DaskreecH | Jackalope looks very nice though | 05:09 |
| DaskreecH | and having a KDE3 release will assuade people who are wary about KDE4 | 05:10 |
| DaskreecH | Hopefully they will see the need to help with KDE3 and can jump in and help you out | 05:10 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I would really appreciate some help | 05:10 |
| DaskreecH | Participation is really what makes FOSS strong. Having options open to you but electing to choose none of them unless someone hands them out doesn't accomplish anything | 05:11 |
| DaskreecH | kb9vqf: Make sure to put contact info on the KDE3 CD announcement | 05:11 |
| DaskreecH | A wiki page helps too | 05:11 |
| kb9vqf | Yeah, good points again. I'll try to get a Wiki page on KDE3.5 together tomorrow | 05:13 |
| kb9vqf | I'm a bit new to this whole release thing still ;-) | 05:13 |
| === k4v is now known as m4v | ||
| DaskreecH | kb9vqf: :-) Yeah there are always little things to tweak but see if you can get at least one other independent seeder and perhaps the ubuntu server as a tracker | 05:16 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I have the i386 torrent started. Here's the link: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-9.04-beta-kde3-desktop-i386.torrent | 05:25 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Let me know if it works, then I'll add the amd64 one | 05:26 |
| DaskreecH | Doesn't work | 05:30 |
| DaskreecH | what are you using as a tracker? | 05:30 |
| DaskreecH | Or better what's your Net facing IP address? | 05:31 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Rats. I'm 66.114.178.133, trying to use the ubuntu tracker | 05:41 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: You know, I bet I forgot my firewall ports | 05:41 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: It's been a long time since I've used bittorrent | 05:41 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Be right back | 05:42 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: It's not letting me...says the file is unauthorized | 05:46 |
| DaskreecH | You uploaded the torrent to t.u.c ? | 05:46 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Nope--maybe you'd better step me through this :-) | 05:46 |
| kb9vqf | Just a high level howto, if you don't mind | 05:47 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: What is T.U.C.? | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.utorrent.com/documentation/make-a-torrent/&ei=hSzcSfEZoo22B4DJxYUN&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNEPhAyVq4rdmtb2Lz_xEpvZyp661A | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | Bloody google | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | www.utorrent.com/documentation/make-a-torrent/ | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | torrentfreak.com/how-to-create-a-torrent/ | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | torrent.ubuntu.com | 05:48 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: That's what I did | 05:48 |
| DaskreecH | t.u.c | 05:48 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: The problem is the tracker is rejecting my file | 05:49 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I am already using (or trying to use) torrent.ubuntu.com | 05:49 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I guess what I am asking instead, is "how do I get the file authorized" | 05:50 |
| DaskreecH | Yeah I saw that but they need the .torrent to act as tracker | 05:50 |
| DaskreecH | #ubuntu-motu | 05:50 |
| DaskreecH | I'm downloading from you BTW | 05:50 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: So my ports are open and it's working OK (except the tracker)? | 05:51 |
| DaskreecH | I'll leave it up until the announcement goes live | 05:51 |
| DaskreecH | Right | 05:51 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: OK. I'll ask on #ubuntu-motu about the tracker then | 05:51 |
| DaskreecH | Cool | 05:51 |
| kb9vqf | I'll also send the amd64 link when I have it :-) | 05:51 |
| DaskreecH | kk | 05:55 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: Here's the AMD64 link: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-9.04-beta-kde3-desktop-amd64.torrent | 06:13 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I had to delete and restart the i386 torrent because I accidentally entered an incomplete tracker URL, so if you could re-download the i386 torrent file it should be fixed | 06:14 |
| * kb9vqf feels like an idiot | 06:14 | |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: I have yet to hear from anyone on #ubuntu-motu about getting the file authorized, though | 06:15 |
| DaskreecH | ok | 06:18 |
| kb9vqf | Thanks for seeding, BTW. | 06:21 |
| kb9vqf | If you feel like it, try booting one of the images up under VirtualBox or something and let me know what you think... | 06:21 |
| DaskreecH | ok | 06:22 |
| DaskreecH | I'm going to feel like an alien | 06:24 |
| kb9vqf | ? | 06:25 |
| DaskreecH | I jumped to KDE 4 a little pre KDE 4.0 | 06:26 |
| DaskreecH | I attenended the release event so I wanted an idea what it was like | 06:26 |
| kb9vqf | Ahh...it'll be like going back in time :-) | 06:27 |
| DaskreecH | I've been using it ever since to pick out stuff and submit bugs etc. But up till KDE 4.1.1 everytime I went on a KDE3 machine I'd really really miss KDE3 | 06:27 |
| DaskreecH | after that though I really couldn't imagine using KDE3 again it has better polish but KDE4 feels so much more functional | 06:28 |
| DaskreecH | I'm going to be going up to old apps and old friends and touching them like they are in a museum :) | 06:28 |
| kb9vqf | A little nostalgia never hurt anyone ;-) | 06:29 |
| DaskreecH | Yeah :) PLus the polish stuff is going to be nice as well | 06:34 |
| DaskreecH | Just going to feel very strange | 06:34 |
| === blizzzek is now known as blizzz | ||
| freinhard | glatzor: got my mail? | 09:35 |
| glatzor | freinhard, hello. sorry, I am not about any mail from you. | 09:36 |
| glatzor | freinhard, how can I help you? | 09:36 |
| freinhard | glatzor: used the lp webiterface | 09:58 |
| freinhard | glatzor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/146808/ | 10:30 |
| glatzor | thanks freinhard. | 10:52 |
| glatzor | freinhard, I will have a look at it in some minutes. In the future I would suggest to use Launchpad and open a bug agains packagekit. | 10:54 |
| glatzor | freinhard, this helps a lot to notforget things | 10:54 |
| Quintasan | yhj | 11:50 |
| Riddell | quiet here the day | 11:54 |
| a|wen | not much going on, no | 11:55 |
| jussi01 | seems quiet everywhere today... | 12:01 |
| jussi01 | lull before the storm I say | 12:01 |
| a|wen | Riddell: did you have time to look at the changes in kdebase-workspace in bzr ... they are starting to pile up | 12:03 |
| Riddell | a|wen: oh no, let me do that | 12:14 |
| a|wen | :) | 12:27 |
| mvo | if someone has a system (e.g. a virtual machine) that can reproduce #348704 I would like to generate a patch that tries to figure out at what stage the symlink goes missing. but as I can not reproduce it, I would need help | 13:07 |
| Riddell | mvo: how would you generate a patch? | 13:28 |
| Riddell | mvo: by the way I found testing in a chroot doesn't work at all | 13:33 |
| mvo | Riddell: I would add code to update-manager that monitors the file in each step that dpkg takes to figure out when its there and when it vanishes (yes, I'm desperate :) | 13:34 |
| mvo | how do you mean? it does not work at all in a chroot? | 13:35 |
| a|wen | mvo: are we sure it vanishes ... don't it just never get created for python2.6 | 13:36 |
| Riddell | mvo: I don't remember the exact error but it moaned about something when I tried a chroot | 13:36 |
| mvo | a|wen: its part of dpkg -L python-qt4-dbus | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: btw, kdebase-workspace and kubuntu-default-settings need sponsoring | 13:37 |
| mvo | a|wen: it may still be never created, but even that could be monitored | 13:37 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: already poked Riddell again about kdebase-workspace :) | 13:38 |
| mvo | Riddell: this bug really concerns me (because its probably more than just python-qt4-dbus that is potentially affected) so I would love to nail it down | 13:38 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: oh ;-) | 13:38 |
| Riddell | mvo: your concern is appreciated, it's pretty important for us | 13:38 |
| Riddell | mvo: I'll do an intrepid install and upgrade and check the problem still exists | 13:38 |
| mvo | there were a bunch of other python problem that got fixed since, so there is a chance | 13:39 |
| Riddell | kdebase-workspace uploaded | 13:43 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: ^^ :) | 13:43 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: good work tracking down branch fixes there | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: thanks :) | 13:44 |
| JontheEchidna | I hadn't even noticed some of those bugs until I saw the patches | 13:45 |
| JontheEchidna | namely the krunner combobox scrollbar background bug | 13:45 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: don't suppose you've seen a fix for kickoff not in focus by default? | 13:46 |
| JontheEchidna | nope, but I've heard rumblings that it could be a kwin problem | 13:46 |
| a|wen | if you run plasma without kwin it works according to the upstream bug ... i've already looked through all code-changes between 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 for kickoff so i know it is not a kickoff specific issue | 13:48 |
| * a|wen will be out for a bit | 13:48 | |
| JontheEchidna | wha, I thought I committed those other k-d-s changes | 13:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess I never pushed | 13:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I just pushed a few more k-d-s changes to bzr, sorry 'bout that | 13:56 |
| * Quintasan forgot what he was translating yesterday | 13:57 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: that's why I prefer bzr checkout over bzr branch :) | 13:58 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll have a go at kdegraphics a bit later today. There's a few packaging bugs and a patch that we want. I'll also track down branch fixes while I'm at it | 14:00 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: you're the man | 14:01 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: real quick, how should I go about getting links to the KDE3.5 livecds on the Kubuntu page? | 14:02 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: coincidentally that used to be the comment of my old GPG identity :P | 14:03 |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: ask me or ryanakca | 14:07 |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: I'd like to test it myself first before putting it on the website, but I'm pretty busy today | 14:07 |
| Arminius_ | the kubuntu devels, my last hope! | 14:09 |
| Arminius_ | I got a big bug in updating Kubuntu Intrepid from KDE 4.1 to 4.2 and neither #kubuntu nor #kde has any idea... | 14:10 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1385280 | 14:11 |
| Quintasan | Arminius_: I had similar problems, I removed all the packages, refreshed the package list and installed them once again. | 14:13 |
| Arminius_ | removed all the packages???? :o :o :o | 14:14 |
| Arminius_ | isn't that dangerous? | 14:14 |
| Quintasan | I mean KDE packages :D | 14:14 |
| Arminius_ | ah | 14:14 |
| Arminius_ | and how do you? | 14:14 |
| Arminius_ | what lines did you put into konsole? | 14:14 |
| Arminius_ | and is that a bug? | 14:14 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: dist-upgrade isn't a supported method for upgrading between releases | 14:15 |
| Quintasan | Arminius_: use aptitude and seach for packages like kdm and kdebase-workspace | 14:15 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 14:15 |
| DaskreecH | !upgrade | Arminius_ | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Arminius_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 14:15 |
| * Quintasan thought he is using experimental repo | 14:16 | |
| Arminius_ | DeskreecH that is for updating Kubuntu not KDE or am I wrong? | 14:16 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: Just saying thats the way to do the upgrade from one Release to another | 14:17 |
| Arminius_ | ah ok :) | 14:17 |
| Arminius_ | for kdm I got no matches on Adept | 14:18 |
| Arminius_ | and | 14:18 |
| Arminius_ | oh | 14:18 |
| Arminius_ | looks good | 14:18 |
| Arminius_ | wait | 14:18 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: wait | 14:19 |
| Arminius_ | ok? | 14:19 |
| DaskreecH | You are going from Ibex to Jackalope or just installing New KDE on Ibex? | 14:19 |
| Arminius_ | trying to update from KDE 4.1 to 4.2 on Ibex, KRandRTray is that the one to isntall? | 14:19 |
| Arminius_ | upgrade I mean | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | anyone has a package of konversation kde4 port? | 14:20 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: oh, 4.2 for intrepid | 14:20 |
| Arminius_ | yeah | 14:20 |
| Arminius_ | isn't that recommended? | 14:20 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: what happens if you apt-get install kdelibs5 ? | 14:21 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: You should be able to just turnon unsupported updates and remove the other repo and it should work | 14:21 |
| Arminius_ | sec | 14:22 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1385985 | 14:23 |
| Arminius_ | I get this | 14:23 |
| Arminius_ | is KDE 4.2 unsupported? :o | 14:23 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: You didn't seem to have that worry when using a external repo :) | 14:25 |
| Arminius_ | which one? | 14:26 |
| Arminius_ | sorry I'm a bit new to kubuntu so I might make some mistakes and sound a bit dumb... | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | Arminius_: can you try removing kdm with kdebase-workspace along with dependencies and then installing it once more? | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | I tried upgrading on Intrepid and I needed to remove all KDE related packages | 14:27 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: The one you were trying to install from before | 14:27 |
| DaskreecH | Arminius_: Welcome to Kubuntu!! | 14:27 |
| DaskreecH | :) | 14:27 |
| Quintasan | :D | 14:27 |
| Arminius_ | well :) I don't really had a look ^^ just dont want to mess up the system | 14:28 |
| Arminius_ | ok giving it a try | 14:28 |
| Arminius_ | just a sec... | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: kdegraphics ready in bzr | 14:30 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: what do you have in your sources.list ? | 14:30 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1385941 | 14:30 |
| Arminius_ | ok started an upgrade | 14:31 |
| Arminius_ | hope it will work... | 14:31 |
| Arminius_ | I have to relog to make it work right? | 14:32 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: upgrade? how? | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | via adpet | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | removed the source I added | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | that made all those problems | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | and then updated Kde workspace | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | there was no kdm I could find | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | hope it will work... | 14:32 |
| Arminius_ | brb... | 14:33 |
| Quintasan | you removed: kubuntu-members-kde4 right? | 14:33 |
| Arminius_ | hem I don't know | 14:33 |
| Arminius_ | don't think | 14:33 |
| Arminius_ | wait | 14:33 |
| Arminius_ | checking | 14:33 |
| Arminius_ | there is no such package... | 14:34 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: oh, you need backports | 14:34 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 14:34 |
| administrator_ | I back | 14:36 |
| administrator_ | what should I add as packages sources? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | administrator_: backports | 14:36 |
| administrator_ | and which ones? | 14:37 |
| === administrator_ is now known as Arminius_ | ||
| Arminius_ | backports are those things you edit in sources right? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: yes, uncomment the intrepid-backports line in sources.list | 14:37 |
| Arminius_ | ok sec | 14:38 |
| Arminius_ | ok uncommented | 14:40 |
| Arminius_ | trying again... | 14:40 |
| Arminius_ | so what should I search for now? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: still got kubuntu-members-kde4 in sources.list ? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | try a dist upgrade again | 14:42 |
| Arminius_ | but I thought that dist upgrade wasn't for KDE? | 14:43 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: it's not for upgrading between Kubuntu releases. new KDE releases should be fine. I just misunderstood what you were trying to do at first | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | Hmm can anyone see Semantik in KMenu? | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | ah ok | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | thanks :) | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | well I commented the kubuntu memebers kde | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | 4 | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | thing out... | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | was that right? | 14:44 |
| Arminius_ | or shouldn't it be? | 14:44 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: not if you want KDE 4.2 :) | 14:45 |
| Arminius_ | lol ok | 14:45 |
| Arminius_ | uncommenting ;) | 14:45 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: looks like a bug, /usr/share/applications/kde4/semantik.desktop has no Exec= line | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Thanks, I'm going to fix it because it *looks* easy ;) | 14:46 |
| Arminius_ | Riddel, looks better now but still wants to remove some packages | 14:47 |
| Arminius_ | like kdebase-plasma and kdebase-workspace | 14:47 |
| Arminius_ | is that ok? | 14:47 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: go for it! | 14:47 |
| Arminius_ | and python-plasma... | 14:48 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: not ideal, pastebin the output? | 14:48 |
| Arminius_ | ok sec | 14:48 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386007 | 14:49 |
| Arminius_ | there :) | 14:49 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: what happens with apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin ? | 14:50 |
| Arminius_ | sec | 14:51 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386014 | 14:52 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: apt-get install libplasma3 ? | 14:52 |
| Arminius_ | sec :) | 14:53 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386018 | 14:54 |
| === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL | ||
| Quintasan | How come I can't find *.desktop file in semantik | 14:54 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: have you done apt-get update ? | 14:54 |
| Quintasan | ah | 14:55 |
| Arminius_ | I did but some time ago ^^ | 14:55 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: do it again | 14:55 |
| Riddell | then see if libplasma3 installs | 14:55 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: src/data/semantik.desktop ? | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: just found it :P | 14:56 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386021 | 14:56 |
| Arminius_ | small error during update | 14:56 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: that's fine | 14:57 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 14:57 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386022 | 14:59 |
| Arminius_ | should I press Y or n? | 14:59 |
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| Arminius_ | :s | 15:00 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: hmm, no | 15:02 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin ? | 15:02 |
| Arminius_ | ok I'll press n | 15:02 |
| Arminius_ | and do that ;) | 15:02 |
| Arminius_ | sec :) | 15:02 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386027 | 15:03 |
| Arminius_ | there :) | 15:03 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: apt-get install kdepimlibs5 ? | 15:05 |
| Riddell | (I'm afraid apt has this annoying habit of not always telling you where the problem is, you have to drill down into it) | 15:06 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: also apt-cache policy kdepimlibs5 | 15:06 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386032 | 15:06 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: apt-get install libical0 ? | 15:07 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386033 | 15:07 |
| Arminius_ | and http://www.pastebin.ca/1386034 | 15:09 |
| Arminius_ | :s | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | I'm sure removing your current KDE installation (not PURGING) would help :3 | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | I had same problem before | 15:09 |
| Arminius_ | sure? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | ug, don't do that | 15:09 |
| Arminius_ | what would be the command line I would have to enter? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: can you paste your sources.list again? | 15:09 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | I cant say for 100% but it helped me | 15:10 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 15:10 |
| Riddell | libical0 should be in normal universe | 15:10 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386036 | 15:11 |
| Arminius_ | there :) | 15:11 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: you need to uncomment the universe line | 15:11 |
| Arminius_ | ah ok sorry! | 15:12 |
| Riddell | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade | 15:12 |
| Arminius_ | only universe or also multiverse? | 15:14 |
| Arminius_ | gonna try with both... | 15:16 |
| Arminius_ | ok loading :) | 15:17 |
| Arminius_ | ^^ | 15:17 |
| Riddell | mvo: ok, fresh upgrade done, link isn't there | 15:17 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: Just got your previous reply. I can wait for you to take a look at the images (would prefer that, actually). If you prefer torrent, I created a couple and Daskreech is seeding with me, so it might be faster | 15:18 |
| * kb9vqf loves the morning commute :-P | 15:19 | |
| Arminius_ | Riddell I got this http://www.pastebin.ca/1386040 | 15:20 |
| Arminius_ | :s | 15:20 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 15:20 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 15:21 |
| Arminius_ | http://www.pastebin.ca/1386044 | 15:22 |
| Arminius_ | should I press Y or n ? :) | 15:22 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: go for it! | 15:22 |
| Arminius_ | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ... Install these packages without verification [y/N]? | 15:22 |
| Riddell | Arminius_: yes | 15:23 |
| Arminius_ | ok thanks :) | 15:23 |
| Arminius_ | I guess compiz will be gone but I can reinstall later | 15:24 |
| Arminius_ | I heard that in KDE 4.2 the KDE effect are better than compiz are stabler, is that true? | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | Arminius_: Depends on you graphics card :D | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | my my, can someone tell how *.install files in debian/ work? | 15:25 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 15:25 |
| kb9vqf | Quintasan: Very simply: they list the files to be installed, with full paths of the destination filenames | 15:26 |
| kb9vqf | Quintasan: Anything specific you want to know? ;-) | 15:27 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: I think there is a little problem with your startkde fix | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | kb9vqf: yeah | 15:27 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: people going with dist-upgrade will still have gtk-qt-engine installed | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | kb9vqf: I created a *.desktop file in debian/ I should put it in *.desktop file? | 15:28 |
| Arminius_ | (while I am waiting, I installed Qt, but couldn't find Qt creator in the package, is that normal?) | 15:28 |
| Arminius_ | apparently the update is gonna take a few minutes ;) | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | kb9vqf: wrong, to *.install :P | 15:28 |
| kb9vqf | Quintasan: What I usually do in that case is to put an "install -m644 debian/foo.desktop debian/<package-name>/destination/foo.desktop" line in debian/rules | 15:29 |
| kb9vqf | Quintasan: I can look up the exact syntax | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | kb9vqf: I knew there is something more elgant :P | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | kb9vqf: thanks | 15:29 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you would be better patching the existing .desktop file | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'm going to do it, but I wanted to try something diffrent :) | 15:31 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: hum in fact I don't understand the fix, what's that supposed to change, since we drop the env script.... | 15:33 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do you know where the kdebluetooth source is in svn? | 15:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: trunk/playground/network/kbluetooth4/ | 15:35 |
| Riddell | hmm, no translations | 15:36 |
| Riddell | mvo: anything else you need me to do with this upgrade? | 15:40 |
| mvo | Riddell: this was a normal intrepid kubuntu install (alternate cd, live-cd?) and then a upgrade based on what instructions? | 15:40 |
| mvo | Riddell: I will try to repoduce with exactly the same setup | 15:41 |
| mvo | Riddell: and /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/mainloop/qt.so is not there, but dpkg -L python-qt4-dbus lists it? | 15:41 |
| Riddell | mvo: normal install from alternate CD then upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu | 15:41 |
| Riddell | mvo: right (no /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/dbus/mainloop/qt.so, dpkg -L python-qt4-dbus claims otherwise) | 15:41 |
| mvo | Riddell: thanks, I will exactly this now | 15:42 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: hum gtk-qt-engines recreates the script, got it now, so it only will force qtcurve if installed... well done :) | 15:42 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: sorry for the doubt about the fix ! | 15:43 |
| mvo | Riddell: i386? | 15:44 |
| Riddell | mvo: yes | 15:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: little problem with update-notifier-kde since xineplug_decode_ff.so path changed.... | 15:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm prompted to install libxine1-ffmpeg at every boot | 15:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't there another way than giving he file full path ? that can become a pain to maintain.... | 15:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: pick another file /usr/share/doc/libxine1-ffmpeg would do | 15:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the package status isn't enough ? | 15:58 |
| Tonio_ | installed or not ? | 15:58 |
| * Quintasan just learned to use dpatch | 15:58 | |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ho that's the way you get the package status ?? | 16:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: why not checking the /var/lib/dpkg/info/$packagename.list file then ? | 16:00 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: wouldn't that be more generic/simple ? | 16:00 |
| Tonio_ | agateau: since you worked out on that part recently, wouldn't that make sense for you doing this way ? | 16:02 |
| Arminius_ | ok :D process seems to be finished | 16:06 |
| Arminius_ | do I have to restart or just relog myself to "activate" the update? | 16:06 |
| tsimpson | ArmedGeek: QtCreator isn't in intrepid (as it needs Qt4.5) | 16:08 |
| tsimpson | erm Arminius_ not ArmedGeek ;) | 16:08 |
| Arminius_ | ah ok | 16:08 |
| Arminius_ | thanks :) | 16:08 |
| Arminius_ | a lot ;) | 16:09 |
| tsimpson | the download from qtsoftware.com works fine though | 16:09 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 16:09 |
| * tsimpson uses it | 16:09 | |
| Arminius_ | I am just used to IDE / RAD | 16:09 |
| Arminius_ | so using designer insn't easy | 16:09 |
| tsimpson | designer isn't an IDE | 16:10 |
| tsimpson | it's a form designer | 16:10 |
| Arminius_ | yeah | 16:10 |
| Arminius_ | I was always used to Delphi's great RAD IDE | 16:10 |
| Arminius_ | ^^ | 16:10 |
| Arminius_ | but Kylix and Lazarus are reaaaaaaaaaaally buggi | 16:10 |
| Arminius_ | tsimpsons after a KDE update do I have to reboot or just login/logout? | 16:11 |
| tsimpson | just jogout/in | 16:11 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 16:11 |
| Arminius_ | thanks | 16:11 |
| Arminius_ | brb ;= | 16:12 |
| Arminius_ | ) | 16:12 |
| administrator_ | back | 16:16 |
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| Arminius_ | update looks fine just a problem | 16:17 |
| Arminius_ | I don't have any borders for my windows anymore... | 16:17 |
| Arminius_ | any idea why? | 16:17 |
| tsimpson | did you have compiz installed? | 16:22 |
| tsimpson | try running "kwin --replace" to get kwin running | 16:22 |
| Arminius_ | ok | 16:22 |
| Arminius_ | yeah works now :) | 16:23 |
| Arminius_ | but will Kompiz not work anymore? | 16:24 |
| Arminius_ | but hey when I close the konsole it comes back to the old thing :s | 16:24 |
| Arminius_ | I mean showed it shortly but now I got the same problem again... | 16:25 |
| tsimpson | compiz can work, but it sucks | 16:27 |
| tsimpson | and what do you mean about konsole? | 16:27 |
| Arminius_ | well I started konsole | 16:28 |
| Arminius_ | I entered kwin --replace | 16:29 |
| tsimpson | use alt-f2 | 16:29 |
| Arminius_ | I answered X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 | 16:29 |
| Arminius_ | that shortcut doesn't work anymore :'( | 16:29 |
| Arminius_ | Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty) | 16:29 |
| Arminius_ | Resource id: 0x4a000b5 | 16:30 |
| Arminius_ | but the problem is solved | 16:30 |
| Arminius_ | then when I close console, the problem comes back... | 16:30 |
| tsimpson | try with "kdeinit4_wrapper kwin --replace" | 16:31 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: ping | 16:31 |
| administrator_ | back | 16:34 |
| administrator_ | sorry | 16:34 |
| administrator_ | completly blocked | 16:35 |
| administrator_ | :s | 16:35 |
| agateau | Tonio_: It would be better from a maintenance point of view. I must confess I did not check if it were possible to do and just stuck to the existing code (sorry for the late answer, Quassel does not popup when i run kde trunk :/) | 16:47 |
| Tonio_ | agateau: and also we would then only need 2 parameters and not 3 | 16:48 |
| Tonio_ | agateau: I'll submit the idea to Riddell :) | 16:49 |
| Tonio_ | agateau: for the moment I just statically fixed with the new path... | 16:50 |
| agateau | Tonio_: sounds good | 16:50 |
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| Tonio_ | hum, kopete notification actions seems to be broken here, nothing happens on click | 17:21 |
| Tonio_ | did someone notice this ? | 17:21 |
| * Tonio_ calls for Mr Malone.... | 17:22 | |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna ? | 17:22 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: works here | 17:22 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: oki that's just me then... | 17:22 |
| reisi | has anyone noticed that on kubuntu-alternative-amd64.iso there are a lot of packages with corrupt hashes? | 17:22 |
| reisi | for the jaunty beta i mean | 17:23 |
| reisi | err actually it was caused because of read errors, false alarm | 17:26 |
| a|wen | Tonio_: same problem for me with kopete notifications | 17:28 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes checking for /var/lib/dpkg/info/$package.list is probably fine, but keep in mind we're two days from freeze so code changes should be minimal | 17:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it's a matter of 2 lins I guess | 17:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll write the patch toonight if you want | 17:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: for validation... | 17:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I also have to spend time on kdesudo for one critical bug, as we have a command line option missing for kdesu compatibility | 17:32 |
| Riddell | line 400 is where it gets used | 17:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably have to fake it for now before doing this the right way | 17:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: noted the line, I have to go right now... be back toonight | 17:34 |
| Riddell | sign, back to > 500 unread e-mail messages | 17:56 |
| Riddell | sigh | 17:57 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: could be worse could have another 0 on the end | 17:58 |
| mvo | Riddell: *wooahh* I can reproduce it (the missing qt.so). that is half-way to the fix now (I hope!) | 18:00 |
| Riddell | mvo: what did you have to do different? | 18:01 |
| mvo | Riddell: followed your instructions step by step. before I was using a vmbuilder build image and a ubuntu install that I added kubuntu-desktop to | 18:02 |
| blizzz | i have no sound in flash videos. is this a known bug? | 18:13 |
| DaskreecH | blizzz: kill the nsplugin process and restart it that seems to fix it for me | 18:14 |
| blizzz | DaskreecH: did not work here | 18:16 |
| DaskreecH | WEll it nly happened to me last night so I'm not really expereinced with it :) | 18:16 |
| DaskreecH | normally no sound works at all | 18:17 |
| DaskreecH | not just flash | 18:17 |
| blizzz | at least for amarok sound is not a problem here | 18:17 |
| blizzz | some flash videos stop playing after few seconds | 18:21 |
| DaskreecH | reinstall flash? | 18:22 |
| blizzz | will try this | 18:23 |
| blizzz | btw, sound works in dragon player for me | 18:24 |
| blizzz | however, amarok and dragon suggest to install mpeg plugins, but clicking on "install selected" leads to the message that they are installed already | 18:24 |
| DaskreecH | Riddell: what is valid for torrent.ubuntu.com | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: upon upgrade it will not force qtcurve on the user (I think at least) ... the problem is that we can't differ between left-over gtk-engine-qt and user-choice ... besides, update-manager recommends to nuke gtk-engine-qt because it dropped to universe AFAIK at least | 18:28 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: yep, I re-read the patches and understood the purpose of it | 18:29 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: seems fine with me :) | 18:29 |
| blizzz | reinstalling flash did not help, renaming .adobe either :( | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: re desktop file stuff - still I would feel uncomfortable if we forgot something | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: re sponsoring - which rick would that be? :) | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Tonio_: ohkay :) | 18:30 |
| DaskreecH | apachelogger: If random other stuff is broken then you need to sort out the Sound system I think | 18:30 |
| DaskreecH | apachelogger: rickspencer3 ? | 18:30 |
| rickspencer3 | yes? | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | a) I am only doing fun stuff until someone implemented a long-term solution for all that translation mess | 18:31 |
| Riddell | DaskreecH: how do you mean? | 18:31 |
| DaskreecH | rickspencer3: :-) | 18:31 |
| DaskreecH | Riddell: What torrents are allowed on torrent.ubuntu.com ? | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | rickspencer3: would you be the nice person I have to talk to in order to find out if canonical is willing to sponsor me some netbook so I can implement kubuntu-netbook? | 18:32 |
| rickspencer3 | apachelogger: yes | 18:32 |
| DaskreecH | rickspencer3: Nice response time :) How's freeze crunch treating you? | 18:32 |
| rickspencer3 | rick.spencer@canonical.com | 18:32 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: KDE 3 apps won't work, I'll just remove the X-Gettext-Domain from the .desktop files | 18:33 |
| rickspencer3 | send me your thoughts and I'll see if it's feasible | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | *fixing kmail first* | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | :D | 18:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: sounds sensible to me | 18:33 |
| DaskreecH | Riddell: Would the jackalope KDE3 spin be allowed to be tracked there ? | 18:34 |
| seaLne | amarok just recomended (the we gear and popup dialog thingy) i install a xine ffmpeg package i already had installed | 18:35 |
| seaLne | what prompts it to suggest things? | 18:35 |
| DaskreecH | the voices in the speakers | 18:36 |
| Mamarok | :) | 18:36 |
| Riddell | DaskreecH: I'm afraid not, no source | 18:37 |
| Riddell | seaLne: that's update-notifier-kde | 18:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: here is the dif for update-notifier-kde : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/147125/ | 18:38 |
| Riddell | seaLne: you have libxine1-ffmpeg installed? | 18:38 |
| seaLne | yes | 18:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: shouldn't be harmfull, but since we're that late, you decide wether you want it uploaded or not :) | 18:38 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: I uploaded a fix for that one, quickly, should be fixed in update-notifier-kde 0.17 | 18:39 |
| Tonio_ | seaLne: now writing a better fix for that not to happen again :) | 18:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what he describe is the problem I mentionned you, with the suggestion to check the $package.list file instead | 18:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: looks fine at a glance | 18:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: building and testing... | 18:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: another propper way would have been to use python-apt to check for package status... I may consider that later, but that's too much of a code change ! | 18:45 |
| tsimpson | Tonio_: while you're messing with update-notifier-kde, could you add this (one line) patch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/update-notifier-kde/trunk/revision/68 | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if I remember, python-apt has a "isInstalled" method... | 18:46 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: i think I avoided that because it took too long using hard disk etc | 18:46 |
| tsimpson | it stops apport from running without notification | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: true that, it is slow :) I know that well since I'm attempting to write a python app that performs dist-upgrade at shutdown.... | 18:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's a requirement in corporate environment (aka french parliament) | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | works but *really* slow | 18:47 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: I see nothing harmfull in there, but that's somehow a feature change.... | 18:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should I include that fix ? | 18:49 |
| tsimpson | the apport "something has crashed, please click here..." message is only ever shown at startup, after that when an app crashes it goes straight to apport (possibly with kdesudo) | 18:50 |
| tsimpson | so kdesudo pops up with some command the user may not know about and confuses them | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: hum, imho, I prefer this way, indeed, but since we're very close to the freeze, I let the master decide whenever he wants the fix or not :) | 18:50 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson: that's what we call in french a "hot potatoe transfert !" | 18:51 |
| tsimpson | as far as I know, it differs from Ubuntu behaviour | 18:53 |
| tsimpson | and it's odd for a average-joe user to see a box asking for their password with no notification of what it is or without performing some action to trigger it | 18:54 |
| DaskreecH | Riddell: So Pirate bay then? | 18:55 |
| a|wen | anybody else got the problem that no crash pop-ups is triggered what-so-ever ... just had kontact/kmail simply disappear | 18:55 |
| Riddell | DaskreecH: that would work | 18:57 |
| tsimpson | I remember having to change enabled=0 to enabled=1 in /etc/default/apport and restarting apport, but that's in Intrepid, not sure about Jaunty | 18:57 |
| Riddell | tsimpson: I think that apport behaviour is the same as on ubuntu desktop. at least it was when I implemented it | 18:57 |
| a|wen | hmm, it is already enabled in /etc/default/apport | 18:58 |
| tsimpson | Riddell: a user in here a few days ago said it was not, but I don't actually know | 18:58 |
| tsimpson | but considering it can trigger a kdesudo dialog, I think it's best to have some user action trigger it IMO | 18:59 |
| DaskreecH | Why is it when I click a deb from off the net it refuses to ask me for my password? | 19:00 |
| sebas | It checks the username, if it's DaskreecH, it bugs out. For everybody else, it works. :) | 19:05 |
| sebas | We put that in various parts all over KDE ;-) | 19:05 |
| sebas | Keeps you off the dangerous streets in Kingston | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | sebas: is a special plasma shell for netbooks planed? | 19:06 |
| sebas | apachelogger: yes | 19:07 |
| sebas | see one of aseigo's last blogs | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | k, thx | 19:07 |
| sebas | that'd be plasma-mid | 19:08 |
| apachelogger | very confusing name though :) | 19:10 |
| sebas | yeah, we might name it plama-ux ;) | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 19:11 |
| * blizzz suggests plasmb | 19:12 | |
| apachelogger | ewwww | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | ewwwwww | 19:13 |
| apachelogger | awful bug in the openoffice plugin I wrote in fall | 19:13 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: I'm a bit confused...Ubuntu can't track the torrent because there's no source? KDE3 is still open source...what am I missing? :-) | 19:15 |
| Tonio_ | tsimpson, Riddell: I'm testing my changes.... I let you know decide what to do and then I can upload ! | 19:15 |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: strict compliance with GPL needs source ISOs distributed alongside the ISO (or a written offer for the same) | 19:16 |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: in practice nobody will mind since the source is available in the repository, but it's not quite kosher | 19:17 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: Ahhh....I'll see if I can generate a source ISO. If I do, can it then be "officially" tracked/hosted? | 19:17 |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: probably not then either I'm afraid, I think they can only do torrents for things on releases.u.c and there's lots of approval needed to get on there (plus it's running out of space) | 19:18 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: OK. We can still put a link to my site on the Kubuntu page though, correct? | 19:20 |
| * kb9vqf looks into creating a tracker with Kubuntu | 19:20 | |
| Riddell | kb9vqf: yes | 19:20 |
| kb9vqf | Riddell: Good. :-) Give me a poke when you've had a chance to look at the CD, and I'll make any changes that are suggested before going "live". | 19:21 |
| kb9vqf | Daskreech: have you had a chance to look at the CD yet? | 19:21 |
| apachelogger | kb9vqf: the ubuntu tracker uses bittorando | 19:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I see debian are about to upload kdesudo, you might want to tell them you have a fi for it still | 19:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: will do thanks ! | 19:50 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ping | 20:00 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: I got the tracker online on my servers (I decided to use opentracker--simple and lightweight), and re-uploaded the .torrent files | 20:00 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: So if you could re-start the download for the last time I'd appreciate it :-) | 20:01 |
| * apachelogger is clearly surprised that his former sysadmin is now using kubuntu | 20:02 | |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| * Quintasan wonders when he will have drivers for his Wacom tablet without waiting for new linuxwacom release | 20:04 | |
| DaskreecH | apachelogger: clearly | 20:12 |
| DaskreecH | kb9vqf: No sadly. What's the URls for the torrents? | 20:13 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: I put the new torrents up at http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/ | 20:14 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: I'm using my own tracker at http://www.pearsoncomputing.net:6969 | 20:14 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: Give me a poke when you have a chance to try one of them out | 20:14 |
| DaskreecH | Sure | 20:15 |
| DaskreecH | Torrents work fine | 20:19 |
| kb9vqf | good | 20:21 |
| kb9vqf | I might change the tracker in the future, as I will be curious how many people are downloading, but that won't change the .torrent files | 20:22 |
| rickspencer3-afk | Riddell: update a couple of desktop files, did ya? | 20:25 |
| rickspencer3-afk | :) | 20:25 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| mcas | can anyone tell me the time for the final translation export? | 20:29 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: got to get my karma somehow :) | 20:32 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: you pinged? | 20:33 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 20:33 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: uh yeah, I've done the semantik patch, could you upload it? it works :) | 20:34 |
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| Quintasan | mcas: nixternal said he will do the final upload in about two weeks | 20:38 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: do you have a debdiff? | 20:44 |
| mcas | tnx Quintasan | 20:44 |
| mcas | thx | 20:44 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: nope, I will make it now | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://hs.quintasan.pl/semantik_0.6.8-0ubuntu2.debdiff | 20:47 |
| Mamarok | there seems to be a bug with the new libxine1-ffmpeg package | 20:54 |
| Mamarok | Amarok keeps asking for it to be installed, although it is there | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | I doubt that is libxine1-ffmpeg's fault, but rather a buggy patch | 20:55 |
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| * Mamarok doesn't have amarok 2.0.2 | 20:56 | |
| Mamarok | this has been reported by a user on the mailing list | 20:56 |
| DaskreecH | Mamarok: Show off | 20:57 |
| Mamarok | DaskreecH: I don't think so, I just can't test it, I only have a local svn build | 20:57 |
| DaskreecH | Mamarok: :) Just teasing. It's kinda like my friend who lives on SVN and gets used to features about as fastas I do | 20:59 |
| Mamarok | right :) | 20:59 |
| Mamarok | anyway, there is a new bug somewhere | 20:59 |
| DaskreecH | so he'll be saying how glad he is that KDE does <insert feature>. I'll say it doesn't and he goes oooooh right you are using the released version. (*silence*) | 20:59 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: looks perfect | 20:59 |
| DaskreecH | Grrrrr. Showoff. | 21:00 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: known bug, should be fixed if you upgrade to latest update-notifier-kde | 21:00 |
| JontheEchidna | oh carp, I forgot I had a kpackagekit patch that I wanted uploaded after beta freeze | 21:09 |
| JontheEchidna | lol, carp | 21:10 |
| jjesse | mmmm carp :) | 21:11 |
| Riddell | that patch must be a load of old tripe | 21:14 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 275196, btw. I'm testbuilding then I'll upload a debdiff | 21:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275196 in kpackagekit "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept search tab, after clicking on a package and scrolling down, info display disappears" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275196 | 21:17 |
| joshjtl | does anyone use raptor menu? | 21:21 |
| joshjtl | http://raptor-menu.org/ | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: I have a package in my ppa | 21:26 |
| joshjtl | whats the address again Quintasan? | 21:26 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: do you use it? | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: http://ppa.quintasan.pl | 21:26 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: do you use it? | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: yeah, it stable, but sometimes it crashes | 21:27 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: i used to have it installed but couldnt figure out how to use it... ill install again now | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: it's an plasma applet, add it to desktop or menu | 21:28 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: would tomorrow night be any good for help.k.o? | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | and resize it :P | 21:28 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: no i got how to add it, just not the actual use | 21:28 |
| joshjtl | hmm dunno if it install im running jaunty on this machine | 21:29 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: it will install :P | 21:30 |
| joshjtl | nope wont install | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | why is that? you are running jaunty? | 21:31 |
| joshjtl | no running intrepid | 21:32 |
| joshjtl | on this machine | 21:32 |
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| Quintasan | joshjtl: so it wont :P | 21:32 |
| joshjtl | nope | 21:33 |
| joshjtl | ill install from source | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: you will need libplasma-dev and cmake installed | 21:34 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: know of any "better" amarok panel plasmoid? the preinstalled one kinda sucks | 21:34 |
| joshjtl | got em | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: PlayWolf? | 21:34 |
| joshjtl | lemme look | 21:35 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: that will work for me....I need to start porting it...it should only take me a few hours at the most to do | 21:36 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: I will grab the CSS for k.o and use its scheme for the documentation | 21:36 |
| nixternal | that way there I can stage it for you to look at.... | 21:37 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: for the h.k.o I say we just use the generic php setup that the old k.o used to be...it was much easier to do the docs stuff with than using a bloated cms | 21:38 |
| nixternal | I will stage everything (maybe tonight) so we can look at it tomorrow night | 21:38 |
| * nixternal goes back to cleaning up | 21:38 | |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| ryanakca | nixternal: Yeah, even plain old static pages will work. Theming it should be a one or two hour job... Are we going to stick in a search bar? | 21:42 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: tried to install playwolf from source... installed fine, but when i add it to panel i get a bix X in place of it | 21:43 |
| Riddell | jtholmes: when you're next trying a kubuntu live CD could you try it with mem=512 ? | 21:44 |
| joshjtl | how do I find out what my KDEDIR is? | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: try adding it to desktop | 21:47 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: same problem... on desktop it says could not find playwolf | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 21:50 |
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| joshjtl | Quintasan: whats path to kde 4 installation? | 21:55 |
| joshjtl | on kubuntu | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | joshjtl: what are you trying to do? | 21:55 |
| joshjtl | to install this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/PeachyDock?content=78494 | 21:56 |
| joshjtl | build says i need path to kde 4 installation | 21:56 |
| joshjtl | Quintasan: any idea? | 22:00 |
| joshjtl | guess thats a no :) | 22:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just uploading the fixed kdesudo.... --attach option is now included and works like a charm | 22:10 |
| DaskreecH | joshjtl: try which kdeinit | 22:13 |
| joshjtl | DaskreecH: that doesnt tell me what the dir is | 22:14 |
| DaskreecH | >_< | 22:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: do you have time to sponsor a few things? | 22:25 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: it might disturb me from my lolcat reading | 22:26 |
| * JontheEchidna switches to a new tactic | 22:27 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what needs doing? | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | i can haz sponsor? | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 275196, kdenetwork bzr and kdegraphics bzr | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 275196 in kpackagekit "(Kubuntu Intrepid) In Adept search tab, after clicking on a package and scrolling down, info display disappears" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275196 | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Oh, also the add new printer button in spck gives a nice traceback | 22:28 |
| JontheEchidna | just fyi | 22:28 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders why system-config-printer breaks stuff like that so often | 22:29 | |
| Riddell | that was my task for this week until this .desktop translations stuff happened | 22:29 |
| Riddell | now is task for tomorrow | 22:29 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 22:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ~order hot cocoa for Riddell | 22:29 |
| * kubotu slides hot cocoa down the bar to Riddell | 22:29 | |
| Riddell | hmm, samba kcm, that should just be throw out | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | that and half of kdeadmin, sadly :( | 22:37 |
| Riddell | kdenetwork up | 22:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum I forgot that one indeed..... added to todo list, will do tomorrow morning | 22:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what's that? | 22:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the kcm samba stuff | 22:44 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: JontheEchidna just added some fixes | 22:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki then | 22:46 |
| Riddell | bit too late to do anything else in jaunty | 22:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I was talking about getting this removed, not fixed :) | 22:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have plans for karmic on that point (the samba sharing) | 22:48 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: is that kpackagekit patch upstream? | 22:48 |
| JontheEchidna | nope, I haven't gotten to it yet | 22:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: one thing that changed with kde 4.2.2 and that drives me nuts, dunno if that's a bug | 22:49 |
| JontheEchidna | I actually forgot I had made the patch until earlier today (I made it back during beta freeze) | 22:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kickoff doesn't disapear when loosing focus.... is that wanted purpose ? | 22:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Tonio_: it seems to be a KWin bug | 22:50 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: uploaded | 22:50 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: that's *really* awfull to use.... is it known bug ? | 22:50 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, both up and downstream | 22:50 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: kk | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 34059 | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 34059 in launchpad-registry "Don't make me change pages to sign this code of conduct" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34059 | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | er | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 354059 | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 354059 in kdebase "[jaunty] kickoff focus issue (4.2.2 regression)" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354059 | 22:51 |
| * Tonio_ is testing the update-notifier changes, and reboots in the meantime | 22:51 | |
| * Tonio_ now remembers why he calls JontheEchidna Mr Malone | 22:51 | |
| Tonio_ | that's impressive, really | 22:51 |
| JontheEchidna | I keep a copy of the kubuntu-bugs mailing list archive open in a tab in firefox | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | crtl + f, search for "focus" ;-) | 22:52 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: if it wasn't you, I'd really thought you were an IRC bot :) | 22:52 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: ah ! that makes sense then :) | 22:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I should blog about my firefox setup some time :P | 22:52 |
| neversfelde | mhh, dragonplayer installed software. Nice feature. Just out of curiosity what happened to the libdvdcss hint? | 23:29 |
| neversfelde | kaffeine had one, or? | 23:30 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: it's illegal in parts of the world we have to care about :( | 23:33 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: thats the reason why I asked. It might be not legal here in Germany and I wondered why it was part of kubuntu | 23:34 |
| Riddell | it's pretty depressing | 23:36 |
| Riddell | we can point to software that is illegally copied (wifi firmware) but not to legally copied software the decodes your own videos | 23:36 |
| neversfelde | a norwegian judge goes the right way, he declared libdvdcss is not a copy protection. Here nobody seems to care about that, probably we'll get a better copyright law after this year | 23:38 |
| neversfelde | it is only a problem related to civil law, so there is a real chance, but I don ot know which countries are involved in this problem, too. Norway not^^ | 23:41 |
| neversfelde | Riddell: thx for that info | 23:41 |
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