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| didrocks | hello there | 09:02 |
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| seb128 | hey didrocks | 09:03 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: hey seb | 09:17 |
| * mpt discovers Gnome Do's "Bug Number" plug-in | 09:18 | |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 09:18 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: how was your day? what did you work on today? | 09:19 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: trying to manage compiz bugs - there are so many!! And so vague... | 09:19 |
| mpt | mvo, about bug 356152, I think in future we will offer to install any pending updates whenever you make any other changes | 09:19 |
| seb128 | oh yeah, it's a beast | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 356152 in update-notifier "update-manager doesn't show updates, even after 1 week" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356152 | 09:19 |
| mpt | mvo, but that doesn't particularly help now, I guess | 09:20 |
| mvo | mpt: so it will just check when update-manager wsa last run? | 09:20 |
| mvo | mpt: hm, code-wise it can still be changed relatively easily, but we are pretty late | 09:21 |
| mpt | yeah | 09:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh, you gave compiz to robert_ancell :) | 09:22 |
| seb128 | mvo: it seems that mpt want to bring the bug I was having as an official feature now? ;-) | 09:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I didn't have to, somebody else pushed him this way apparently, I've just been careful to not stop him on the way ;-) | 09:23 |
| didrocks | :) | 09:23 |
| mpt | Opening Update Manager yourself and closing it without making any changes -> resets the timer | 09:24 |
| mpt | Installing updates from the terminal -> resets the timer | 09:24 |
| robert_ancell | well I'm having a go at it but a lot of the bugs I can only shrug my shoulders at | 09:24 |
| mpt | Installing stuff other than updates -> ...? | 09:25 |
| mvo | I guess the problem is currently "using add/remove -> resets the timer" | 09:25 |
| mpt | yeah | 09:25 |
| seb128 | mpt: "we will offer to install any pending updates whenever you make any other changes" ... what does "any other change" means? | 09:25 |
| mvo | on the commandline we can not distinguish between installed updates or installed new stuff easily, I mean, we could try, but I'm not sure if that would not make things easier to understand for the user | 09:26 |
| mpt | seb128, installing or uninstalling anything manually | 09:26 |
| mvo | add/remove> different matter | 09:26 |
| mpt | mvo, well if it's easy to exclude Add/Remove for 9.04, and you have time to fix it for 9.04, I have no objection :-) | 09:26 |
| seb128 | mpt: do you count update as installing? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | mpt: I was complaining some days ago to mvo that I got that bug, update-manager autoopening after every install I did in synaptic | 09:28 |
| seb128 | *really annoying* | 09:28 |
| seb128 | I usually select the updates for bandwith reasons | 09:28 |
| mpt | seb128, sorry, I was imprecise. I meant installing anything other than updates. | 09:28 |
| seb128 | ie I don't want to download 300 megas every day | 09:28 |
| mvo | mpt: I will meditate about add/remove for 9.04, but chances are not that great :/ | 09:29 |
| mpt | seb128, that shouldn't happen unless they're security updates | 09:29 |
| seb128 | hum ok, I'm not convinced that we should nag users too much | 09:29 |
| seb128 | there is a limit between being helpful and annoying that we should try to not cross | 09:29 |
| mpt | seb128, that's a bug then. | 09:29 |
| seb128 | right, that one was | 09:29 |
| seb128 | I though you suggested increasing the nagging cases ;-) | 09:29 |
| seb128 | sorry for the noise | 09:30 |
| robert_ancell | does anyone know what package bug 284124 should be against? It's a keyboard shortcut issue (not compiz specific) | 09:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284124 in compiz "pressing up arrow causes the screenshot program to run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284124 | 09:31 |
| mpt | mvo, I commented in the bug report | 09:34 |
| mvo | thanks mpt | 09:34 |
| mpt | seb128, ideally it would reduce the nagging, by making it easier to install updates at the same time as you're doing other package management | 09:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: not sure but xorg would be a better bet, I get the issue in kvm or virt-manager on current jaunty I think | 09:35 |
| seb128 | mpt: I don't want to install all the updates, it's just too much to download but maybe I'm a special case and I should get faster internet or something ;-) | 09:36 |
| seb128 | mpt: ie, I know I've pending updates, they are pending for a good reason and I would find extra nagging annoying rather than helpful there | 09:37 |
| mpt | seb128, it wouldn't be nagging. | 09:38 |
| seb128 | well, auto-opening the update list just because I install a new software in synaptic would be nagging | 09:38 |
| seb128 | no? | 09:38 |
| mpt | Yes, but that bears little resemblance to what I'm suggesting | 09:38 |
| seb128 | ok, I didn't get what you are suggesting though | 09:39 |
| seb128 | though -> then | 09:39 |
| seb128 | I will just wait for mvo to do the change and see how it works ;-) | 09:39 |
| mvo | mpt: thanks for the update to bug 351484 -- I don't think this can be done for jaunty, it requires that we make bigger changes to software-propoerties | 09:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 351484 in update-manager "update-manager options no longer match functionality" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351484 | 09:40 |
| * robert_ancell is loving the random compiz crashes... | 09:40 | |
| seb128 | re robert_ancell | 09:40 |
| mpt | Imagine, you go into the AppCenter thingy to install a program. Whatever updates are available are pre-selected. You select the program you want to install, and click "Install". The updates are installed along with whatever you're installing. | 09:40 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: did you read my reply before? | 09:40 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: no, I just crashed | 09:40 |
| mvo | mpt: currently s-p runs as root and the options you mention are user options, so we need a proper policykit/dbus backend for s-p | 09:40 |
| mpt | seb128, I guess for you we'd need to make it easy to unselect all updates at once, for if you really wanted to *just* install the new program and no updates. | 09:40 |
| mvo | mpt: not a big deal, just work (and too invasive at this point :/ | 09:40 |
| seb128 | mpt: right, which is exactly what I don't want, because as said download make my internet too slow to work | 09:40 |
| mpt | mvo, ok | 09:40 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: last I heard was ""mpt: thanks for the update to bug 351484 -- I don't think this can be done for jaunty, it requires that we make bigger changes to software-propoerties | 09:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 351484 in update-manager "update-manager options no longer match functionality" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351484 | 09:41 |
| seb128 | mpt: right | 09:41 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: not sure but xorg would be a better bet, I get the issue in kvm or virt-manager on current jaunty I think | 09:41 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: thanks | 09:41 |
| seb128 | I've been annoyed by that so I might have a look | 09:41 |
| seb128 | that was in some test environment though, either xephyr or kvm I think | 09:42 |
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| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell - i had that key mapping issue in a vmware guest for some time. vmware recommend a workaround, and reading their workaround might help to understand what the problem is | 09:56 |
| chrisccoulson | http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=1007439 | 09:56 |
| huats | morning everyone | 09:57 |
| huats | (or afternoon for some of you) | 09:57 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:59 |
| huats | hey seb128 | 09:59 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson: is this only applicable when running in vmware? I'm guessing the reporters in the bug are just running Ubuntu on the metal | 10:00 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure. the only reason i bought that up was because seb128 mentioned about running in kvm. i wasn't sure whether the underlying issue could be the same | 10:01 |
| crevette | good morning | 10:01 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think that issue is specific to vmware | 10:01 |
| seb128 | lut crevette | 10:02 |
| huats | hello crevette | 10:02 |
| crevette | hey gentlemen | 10:02 |
| robert_ancell | night all | 10:21 |
| mvo | night robert_ancell | 10:21 |
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| didrocks | seb128: I think we can still sponsor my package for this release in gtk2-engines-murrine and sync in next cycle on Debian (bug #357543) | 12:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357543 in gtk2-engines-murrine "gtk2-engines-murrine FTBFS on jaunty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357543 | 12:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks: looking | 13:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks: can you work on an update? your version has a lower number and can't be used now | 13:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, what's the convention for versionning in this case? | 13:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks: 1ubuntu1 | 13:07 |
| seb128 | and do the changes you need | 13:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: even if I don't merge against debian (not using debhelper 7 for this release)? | 13:07 |
| seb128 | well; do an update 1ubuntu1 | 13:08 |
| seb128 | copy your rules | 13:08 |
| seb128 | and write "don't use debhelper7 yet" | 13:08 |
| seb128 | ie take the current jaunty version | 13:09 |
| seb128 | undo the debhelper7 use | 13:09 |
| seb128 | call it 1ubuntu1 | 13:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, doing it this evening | 13:09 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:09 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: hey, did you look at the fusa gnome-session use since we discussed it? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: gnome-session in jaunty has session storing for restart, etc now | 13:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: will that work in fusa or not? | 13:42 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i can do some work to make it work with fusa | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | the changes required to gnome-session to do that are fairly trivial | 13:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: please do, would be a shame to have session working but not with fusa now ;-) | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | no probs - i'll work on that:) | 13:51 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 13:52 |
| didrocks | seb128: I assume the "Recommends" of a seeded packages in the CD are seeded too, right? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yes | 14:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: gtk2-engines-murrine recommends in debian murrine-themes. how to know if this one is already seeded? | 14:06 |
| didrocks | or if this raise an issue concerning CD space | 14:07 |
| seb128 | we don't want to add any change now | 14:07 |
| seb128 | easy way | 14:07 |
| seb128 | take your 0ubuntu1 version | 14:07 |
| seb128 | dch -v 1ubuntu1 | 14:07 |
| seb128 | add "use ubuntu version again for jaunty" | 14:07 |
| seb128 | and upload | 14:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: I can merge without this recommends, there are really few changes | 14:08 |
| seb128 | as you want | 14:08 |
| seb128 | but no depends or recommends change over what we have now | 14:08 |
| seb128 | and it needs to build ;-) | 14:08 |
| didrocks | ok, that's why I asked you :) | 14:08 |
| Ng | seb128: haha, damn. I just dug through my "todo" folder in thunderbird and confirmed the fix for g-k-d, only to get your mail saying the fix has been backed out ;) | 14:13 |
| Ng | 3 minutes apart. bah. | 14:13 |
| seb128 | Ng: sorry about that but the change turned gnome-keyring to crashland there | 14:14 |
| seb128 | where your crash is a not-so-common one | 14:14 |
| seb128 | still looking to a clean solution and it's on my jaunty list | 14:14 |
| Ng | seb128: np, I'd rather that I trash my keyring than everyone else's explode :) | 14:14 |
| Ng | although obviously it'd be great if we can fix all of them ;) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | indeed | 14:16 |
| seb128 | didrocks: how busy do you think you will be tonight? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks: do you think you could update gst-plugins-bad0.10 to the current debian version? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there is only a small ubuntu change and we have a stable candidate version where they have the stable one | 14:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: I have finished gtk2-engines-murrines. Just want to test it tonight. I can handle gst-plugins-bad0.10 too (from 8PM, going to cinema first :)) | 14:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:57 |
| seb128 | no hurry, thanks | 14:57 |
| didrocks | y/w :) | 14:57 |
| seb128 | I can review and upload the engine update if you want | 14:57 |
| didrocks | ok, let me push it | 14:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: can you take a look at the changes i pushed for indicate-python? | 14:58 |
| james_w | kenvandine_wk: sure, just about to hop on a call, so it will have to wait 20 minutes I'm afraid | 14:58 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: pitti won't have time today and figured you already looked at it once, we need to get it uploaded :) | 14:58 |
| james_w | yeah, I forgot pitti was away | 14:59 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Any issues with the 0.1.5 stuff? | 14:59 |
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| kenvandine_wk | tedg: not that i know of | 14:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: anything i should be looking at? | 15:00 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: No, I was figuring that was what you were mentioning with the indicate-python talk :) | 15:00 |
| didrocks | seb128: done and linked to bug #357543 (see bzr branch) | 15:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 357543 in gtk2-engines-murrine "gtk2-engines-murrine FTBFS on jaunty" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357543 | 15:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks: thanks | 15:00 |
| seb128 | hey tedg | 15:01 |
| tedg | Good morning seb128 | 15:01 |
| seb128 | tedg: I've sponsored your uploads, the evolution indicator and pidgin libnotify need rebuilds now | 15:01 |
| seb128 | tedg: do you plan to get changes for those today? | 15:01 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: just getting indicate-python uploaded today :) | 15:01 |
| tedg | seb128: Yes. I do. There was a positive ack on the translations for evolution-indicator. | 15:02 |
| tedg | seb128: Thank you for the sponsorships! | 15:02 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 15:02 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Ah, cool. Make sure it works with 0.1.5 then ;) | 15:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 15:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok... /me really hopes it does | 15:03 |
| asac | james_w: last time i looked, one issue with python-indicate was missing license headers for the test scripts. should be shipped with license headers in examples imo | 15:12 |
| james_w | yeah | 15:12 |
| james_w | luckily upstream is co-operative :-) | 15:12 |
| asac | should be really easy to fix for tedg ;) | 15:12 |
| tedg | You Ubuntu folks. Only pass up bugs but never contribute upstream ;) | 15:13 |
| asac | i take that personal. | 15:14 |
| seb128 | tedg: bug reports are valuable contributions ;-) | 15:15 |
| vuntz | seb128: I released a 2.26.0.90 tarball for gnome-session. It's more or less the same than what you have with the patches, with one or two minor other fixes | 15:17 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok thanks | 15:17 |
| seb128 | vuntz: you rock | 15:18 |
| seb128 | everybody hugs vuntz who fixed session storing for good now | 15:18 |
| seb128 | in time for GNOME 2.26.1 and jaunty | 15:18 |
| * seb128 hugs vuntz | 15:18 | |
| * tedg hugs vuntz | 15:18 | |
| mvo | vuntz vuntz vuntz | 15:19 |
| vuntz | (well, you still can't save during the session -- it only works during logout...) | 15:19 |
| seb128 | I don't care so much about session storing | 15:21 |
| seb128 | I care about asking if you want to save your work | 15:21 |
| seb128 | which works ;-) | 15:21 |
| seb128 | brb | 15:23 |
| seb128 | Ng: another gnome-keyring update tentative to fix the issue, let me know how it will work when available | 15:25 |
| Ng | seb128: ooh, will do :) | 15:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:25 |
| seb128 | you get the bug in a reliable way? | 15:26 |
| seb128 | tedg: do you have anything pending sponsoring? I'm doing a sponsoring round between some bug fixes which are on my todolist | 15:37 |
| tedg | seb128: I don't think so, I hope to in about 20 minutes :) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:37 |
| seb128 | the evolution indicator translation fix is not ready yet? | 15:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: the dx team will have new tarballs tonight too | 15:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | or in the morning if things go very badly today | 15:39 |
| seb128 | right | 15:40 |
| seb128 | I expect my day to be long again | 15:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | yup :) | 15:40 |
| seb128 | but soon freeze and long weekend to catch up with sleep again ;-) | 15:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | but hopefully a quiet friday | 15:40 |
| seb128 | it's a holiday there | 15:40 |
| seb128 | so for sure it will be quiet ;-) | 15:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | ah... true | 15:41 |
| kenvandine_wk | the day after the beta freeze it was a ghost town | 15:41 |
| tedg | seb128: Yes, sorry, I'm making a tarball. I'm at a coffee shop as my car is being repaired an the Internet is slow... like IRC delays slow. | 15:41 |
| seb128 | tedg: no hurry you can do that later | 15:42 |
| seb128 | tedg: I'll do an another round of sponsoring tonight european time | 15:42 |
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| james_w | kenvandine_wk: bye-eye checking shows it to be pretty good | 15:52 |
| james_w | checking by computer now | 15:52 |
| kenvandine_wk | :) | 15:53 |
| james_w | there are two issues | 15:53 |
| james_w | firstly, the description sucks :-) | 15:53 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 15:53 |
| kenvandine_wk | well... got suggestions? | 15:53 |
| james_w | usually you do something like | 15:53 |
| james_w | Description: python bindings for libindicate | 15:53 |
| james_w | <excerpt of libindicate description> | 15:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | i would usually get it from upstream :) | 15:54 |
| james_w | This package provides python bindings so that you can use libindicate from a python program | 15:54 |
| james_w | the other issue is licensing | 15:55 |
| james_w | there are some things it would be nice to change upstream, but there are some packaging ones too | 15:56 |
| james_w | the biggest problem being that debian/copyright declares that it is LGPL 3+, when it is LGPL 2.1 or LGPL 3 | 15:56 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 15:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | so it should be LGPL 2.1+ | 15:57 |
| james_w | my minor gripe is that your license for the packaging is more restrictive than the license for the code | 15:57 |
| james_w | no, it should be LGPL 2.1 or LGPL 3, there is no "or later" clause | 15:57 |
| james_w | assuming the headers are correct | 15:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 15:58 |
| kenvandine_wk | what do you mean by my packaging license? | 15:58 |
| james_w | 34 | 15:58 |
| james_w | The Debian packaging is copyright 2009, Ken VanDine <ken.vandine@canonical.com> and | 15:58 |
| james_w | 35 24 | 15:58 |
| james_w | is licensed under the GPL-3, see '/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3'. | 15:58 |
| kenvandine_wk | what would you suggest? | 15:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | that is just from the template | 15:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | i don't think i changed that | 15:59 |
| * kenvandine_wk needs to stop using those templates | 15:59 | |
| james_w | I always use the same license as the code itself | 15:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 16:00 |
| james_w | consider something in debian/patches/, you could consider it part of the packaging, and so making the packaging the same license means there are no issues in moving that patch upstream | 16:00 |
| kenvandine_wk | makes sense | 16:00 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 16:00 |
| james_w | and issues are usually theoretical of course | 16:00 |
| kenvandine_wk | back to the license of the code | 16:01 |
| kenvandine_wk | what is the appropriate way for me to handle that? | 16:01 |
| james_w | you just need to make the declaration in debian/copyright match the code | 16:01 |
| james_w | so take the header that is copied and overwrite it with one from a file in src/ | 16:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | and for the packaging license, should i reflect both versions of the LGPL there? | 16:03 |
| james_w | it's up to you really, it's your work to license, but I would suggest that you do | 16:04 |
| james_w | you can say "same licenses as above" if you like | 16:04 |
| seb128 | mclasen: hi, for your gnome-keyring assertion issue, your change is no the version which has been commited to svn but the one added to the bugzilla bug | 16:04 |
| mclasen | that may be | 16:04 |
| seb128 | mclasen: try using http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-keyring/trunk/egg/egg-secure-memory.c?r1=1706&r2=1705&pathrev=1706 instead rather | 16:04 |
| mclasen | in which case its all Richards fault... | 16:04 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: so you think it is best to dual license the packaging too? | 16:06 |
| james_w | kenvandine_wk: for simplicity, yes, but if you would prefer not to then that's fine. | 16:06 |
| asac | packaging license is usually different from upstream license, so no need to imp | 16:07 |
| asac | imo | 16:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: pull again, how is that? | 16:08 |
| james_w | kenvandine_wk: wrap the final line, but otherwise fine | 16:12 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 16:12 |
| kenvandine_wk | one sec | 16:12 |
| asac | sigh ... amd64 builder just never picks up my tiny build | 16:12 |
| asac | did someone force build score on all the builds that go in fast there? | 16:13 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: done | 16:13 |
| james_w | kenvandine_wk: looks pretty good | 16:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | :) | 16:16 |
| james_w | the last issue is that upstream should really be shipping two COPYING files I think, and should put license headers in tests/* | 16:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: ok, can you get it uploaded? | 16:16 |
| james_w | do you have a freeze exception? | 16:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah... i will work with them on that | 16:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | well... not sure if there is anything official :/ | 16:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | just we know we need to get it in... | 16:17 |
| james_w | an archive admin would be able to confirm whether the COPYING thing was blocking | 16:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | should i subscribe ubuntu-release and get an ack? | 16:17 |
| james_w | motu-release for universe | 16:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 16:17 |
| james_w | and I think we are supposed to get a second ~ubuntu-dev to review | 16:18 |
| james_w | pretty annoying | 16:18 |
| kenvandine_wk | does pitti's review count for that? | 16:19 |
| asac | yes | 16:19 |
| asac | i also reviewed it | 16:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 16:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | i subscribe motu-release | 16:19 |
| asac | what bug is that? | 16:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | bug 344936 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 344936 in indicator-applet "initial packaging of indicate-python" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344936 | 16:19 |
| asac | so still no license headers in tests? | 16:20 |
| asac | why cant we just fix that ;)? | 16:20 |
| asac | i mean once we let it in, it will take even longer to fix. | 16:21 |
| asac | because there is no need to | 16:21 |
| asac | if its already committed upstream branch then its fine | 16:21 |
| kenvandine_wk | it isn't... and they would need to make a new release | 16:21 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: i would like ot see it getting committed there. | 16:22 |
| asac | if thats done we can let it in as it is imo | 16:22 |
| asac | e.g. no need to wait for new upstream release | 16:22 |
| asac | tedg: cant you just commit those license header changes for the tests? | 16:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | i am just working on the packaging branch, we are still building from the tarball... i think | 16:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | i am adding those headers and the second COPYING file | 16:23 |
| asac | thats not my point. | 16:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | will propose a branch merge | 16:23 |
| asac | yeah thanks. | 16:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | but.... those tests aren't getting installed either | 16:23 |
| tedg | asac: Sure. Sorry, I was going and doing a couple of other things. | 16:24 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Does it build and work against 0.1.5? | 16:24 |
| * tedg wants to be really sure there :) | 16:24 | |
| asac | tedg: great thanks | 16:24 |
| kenvandine_wk | i don't have 0.1.5 yet | 16:25 |
| asac | ok i am travelling now for 2 hours ... will be back later and will ack the upload then (if nobody else came around) | 16:25 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: I think it was uploaded? I got bug notifications of it. | 16:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | what is the preferred method for shipping 2 COPYING files? | 16:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | COPYING.LGPL-3 and COPYING.LGPL-2.1 | 16:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | ? | 16:26 |
| seb128 | tedg: it has been uploading this morning but only NEW-ed one hour ago | 16:26 |
| seb128 | tedg: it was in new due to the soname change | 16:26 |
| tedg | seb128: Ah, okay. | 16:27 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: I dont' know the preferred way, but I did that in indicator applet :) | 16:27 |
| seb128 | does anybody else has some sponsoring items waiting? | 16:30 |
| seb128 | james_w: I've no watched that closely but is there anything to do for that nautilus patch you sent out of waiting for next tarballs? | 16:30 |
| james_w | seb128: ah, I forgot it would be in the next round of tarballs | 16:31 |
| seb128 | james_w: tarballs are due next week and will be in jaunty | 16:31 |
| james_w | seb128: it wasn't until I fixed it that I realised that the functionality doesn't work with the version of packagekit that we have | 16:31 |
| seb128 | I don't think there is any hurry to backport that now | 16:32 |
| james_w | it shouldn't be hard to fix that, but I wasn't sure if it was worth the effort/worth changing that at this point | 16:32 |
| james_w | or to just disable the feature in gconf/with --disable-packagekit | 16:32 |
| * didrocks hugs vuntz (lately, but I have so many times bothered you with gnome-session at SL :) I can live without gnome-session --save :p) | 16:34 | |
| seb128 | james_w: the patch doesn't fix it for the jaunty version so we need to disable the option, that's what you say? | 16:35 |
| james_w | the problem was not with using packagekit, but not with using it | 16:35 |
| james_w | that patch will make it acceptable to leave packagekit support enabled | 16:35 |
| seb128 | what does the svn change fix exactly? | 16:35 |
| james_w | however, there's not a lot of point at this moment though, as packagekit support is broken | 16:35 |
| seb128 | it what happens with next tarball and no packagekit installed | 16:35 |
| seb128 | it -> ie | 16:36 |
| james_w | at the moment on a default install you get "Would you like to search for applications?", you click yes, and you will always get "obscure <dbus error because packagekit isn't running>" | 16:36 |
| james_w | the change in SVN means you don't get the question if packagekit isn't running | 16:37 |
| seb128 | ok, good enough for jaunty then | 16:37 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:37 |
| vuntz | didrocks: hola | 16:37 |
| james_w | seb128: but if packagkit is running you get "<other obscure dbus error because of version mismatch>" | 16:38 |
| didrocks | vuntz: hey ;) | 16:38 |
| james_w | seb128: so, we can either add what I assume is a small patch to nautilus to make it work with the older packagekit we have, or disable the feature | 16:38 |
| seb128 | james_w: or do nothing and let it this way, it will break for people installing the jaunty version but work if there is a backport or a ppa update somewhere | 16:40 |
| james_w | true | 16:40 |
| seb128 | james_w: I think it's too much of a corner case to bother now | 16:40 |
| james_w | ok | 16:40 |
| seb128 | we have other priorities for jaunty | 16:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: i just proposed a merge for indicate-python | 16:44 |
| seb128 | ok btw | 16:44 |
| seb128 | tedg: could you use normal sponsoring bugs rather than this weird launchpad thing you use to request updates? ;-) | 16:45 |
| seb128 | tedg: this way your requests would be listed on the sponsoring list | 16:45 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Cool, I'll look at it. | 16:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 16:46 |
| kenvandine_wk | it still doesn't install the tests :) | 16:46 |
| tedg | seb128: Heh, it's the way of the future man ;) pitti isn't here, so I'll say that he forced me to do it that way :) | 16:46 |
| kenvandine_wk | which would be nice... | 16:46 |
| dobey | ugh. the gnome.mk in cdbs requires autotools.mk :( | 16:46 |
| seb128 | tedg: I will force you to wait for pitti to get sponsoring maybe then ;-) | 16:46 |
| seb128 | dobey: no it doesn't? | 16:46 |
| dobey | seb128: include $(_cdbs_class_path)/autotools.mk$(_cdbs_makefile_suffix) | 16:47 |
| seb128 | dobey: I misread what you wrote I think, it doesn't force you to have this include in your rules | 16:48 |
| seb128 | dobey: what is the issue with having it use by gnome.mk directly? | 16:48 |
| dobey | no, it forces me to include it indirectly, which doesn't work so well if you're python and using distutils/setuptools | 16:48 |
| seb128 | hum maybe, all the GNOME things we package usually use autotools | 16:49 |
| dobey | sure | 16:50 |
| dobey | but i just want to use the icons stuff | 16:50 |
| seb128 | add a dh_icons call in the rules | 16:50 |
| dobey | perhaps the different bits should be split out into icons.mk, scrollkeeper.mk, etc... | 16:50 |
| seb128 | that wouldn't make sense, you can as well call dh_icons directly | 16:51 |
| dobey | and gnome/kde/xfce.mk could just include the individiual bits, and i could just include the icons bit | 16:51 |
| dobey | call it directly from where? | 16:51 |
| dobey | what rule? | 16:51 |
| seb128 | binary-post-install/<binary>:: | 16:52 |
| seb128 | dh_icons | 16:52 |
| seb128 | or binary-install/<binary>:: could be enough | 16:53 |
| seb128 | rather binary-install in fact I would say | 16:53 |
| seb128 | try that | 16:53 |
| dobey | binary-isntall:: ? | 16:53 |
| seb128 | yes | 16:53 |
| seb128 | binary-install/whateverbinaryhasicons:: | 16:53 |
| seb128 | dh_icons | 16:54 |
| seb128 | in the rules | 16:54 |
| dobey | without a -pfoo for it? | 16:54 |
| seb128 | do you have several binaries which have icons? | 16:55 |
| dobey | no | 16:55 |
| seb128 | so that should not make a difference | 16:55 |
| dobey | ok | 16:55 |
| seb128 | dobey: you can use "dh_icons -p$(cdbs_curpkg)" if you want | 16:56 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: looks like tedg's patch for inhibiting exit was merged | 16:56 |
| tedg | rickspencer3: Just the libindicate changes. Working on cleaning up the pidgin ones now. | 16:56 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: right, I sponsored those upload in the european morning today | 16:56 |
| rickspencer3 | tedg: ktx | 16:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: yup... looking forward to testing it :) | 16:57 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: as tomorrow is final freeze, what can we do to help ensure that the tedg's pidgin changes are solid as a rock before he uploads? | 16:58 |
| rickspencer3 | I'd be happy to help test if that would help | 16:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you know what's the file build-deps.in is used for? I see no reference in debian/control.in as I would expect to use it… | 17:02 |
| seb128 | didrocks: grep for it in the debian directory, it used to have a rules target to update the control Build-Depends using it | 17:02 |
| seb128 | didrocks: that could have changed, does it has a control.in? | 17:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, it makes something with it in control.in | 17:03 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: can you get your pidgin stuff built into your ppa? | 17:04 |
| kenvandine_wk | or i can do it in mine | 17:04 |
| kenvandine_wk | so we can start testing asap :) | 17:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: or, maybe, I will wait for karmic to clean the multiverse version of gstreamer bad plugins which have diverged from the universe one (when I will have more time). People seems to usually just do an usual update to it, not syncing with debian | 17:04 |
| seb128 | didrocks: see HACKING.Debian | 17:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: yep, I am looking at it right now | 17:05 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: rickspencer3: sure. | 17:05 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: feel free to toss that stuff to me to build in my ppa.. so you can get to work on other stuff :) | 17:06 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: No, I'm at the point of packaging -- so I'd rather get the build errors :) | 17:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: I think I will do that. I merged the universe version (only one ubuntu patch), and update the multiverse one. Just keep in mind to clean in for karmic :) | 17:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok :) | 17:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok looks good, thank you | 17:07 |
| * kenvandine_wk grabs lunch... back in 20m | 17:08 | |
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| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Watch this space :) https://launchpad.net/~ted-gould/+archive/ppa/+build/941805 | 17:22 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: rickspencer3: PPA version of pidgin-libnotify in my PPA if you want to play with it. | 17:43 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine_wk: I'm at your service | 17:44 |
| rickspencer3 | tedg: thanks dude! | 17:44 |
| * tedg really wishes rickspencer3 was at HIS service. I'd really like a latte right now ;) | 17:44 | |
| * rickspencer3 dons waiter uniform | 17:45 | |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 17:45 |
| * kenvandine_wk updates system to get libindicate 1.1.5 first | 17:48 | |
| Nafallo | kenvandine_wk: how's python-indicate progressing? :-) | 17:51 |
| kenvandine_wk | waiting for a freeze exception :) | 17:51 |
| Nafallo | kenvandine_wk: (and if it isn't, where can I find the source so I can PPA it? ;-)) | 17:51 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe... give it a little time | 17:52 |
| kenvandine_wk | it should be today... i hope | 17:52 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 17:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: closing the buddy list now exits pidgin | 18:00 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: ? Did you restart indicator-applet after upgrading? | 18:01 |
| kenvandine_wk | yes | 18:01 |
| tedg | The old indicator-applet doesn't tell pidgin it's watching -- that's a feature :) | 18:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | i even rebooted to bes ure | 18:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | error in PM | 18:02 |
| tedg | Did you install indicator-applet 0.1.5 and not just libindicate1 0.1.5? | 18:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | Hmph :) | 18:02 |
| kenvandine_wk | i did a dist-upgrade | 18:02 |
| * kenvandine_wk checks | 18:02 | |
| tedg | The error really looks like the indicator-applet isn't telling that it's watching. | 18:03 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 18:03 |
| kenvandine_wk | i have both libindicate0 and libindicate1 | 18:03 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh... maybe evolution-indicator kept it around? | 18:04 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: It will until it gets rebuilt. Which is okay. I'm more worried about indicator-applet | 18:04 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: i also have indicate-messages 0.1.4 | 18:07 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Oh, don't have that. It's like soooo old :) | 18:07 |
| kenvandine_wk | should it get erased? | 18:08 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok... found the problem... indicate-messages 0.1.5 needs building still | 18:09 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok seb128, you are right about upstream and pidgin... they have a patch :) | 18:12 |
| kenvandine_wk | it was actually a bug... evidently | 18:12 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: i will test the patch now | 18:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | how can i make bzr-buildpackage skip signatures? | 18:52 |
| james_w | add "-- -uc -us" to the end of the command line | 18:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | doesn't work | 18:54 |
| james_w | irritating, I know | 18:54 |
| james_w | oh | 18:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | works on debuild | 18:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | not bzr-buildpackage | 18:54 |
| james_w | you get an error, or it just still tries to sign? | 18:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | error | 18:55 |
| kenvandine_wk | no arg -u | 18:55 |
| james_w | ah | 18:55 |
| james_w | you need the "--" before | 18:55 |
| james_w | double irritating :-) | 18:56 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 18:56 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 18:56 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks james_w, i had always wondered why i could never get it to work | 18:57 |
| chrisccoulson | i always missed the "--" | 18:57 |
| james_w | because I suck :-) | 18:57 |
| james_w | you shouldn't have to, it's on my list for Karmic | 18:57 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 18:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | good :) | 18:57 |
| james_w | but "--" is better than Intrepid :-) | 18:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | james_w: thx man! | 18:58 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: i updated bug 354298, new debdiff | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 354298 in pidgin "Buddy list should raise when trying to launch pidgin a second time" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354298 | 19:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine_wk: excellent | 19:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine_wk: see I was right on the upstream bug filing, they indeed got a quick reply saying that the wrapper was wrong and an easier fix to use ;-) | 19:29 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: yup... i already admitted you were right :) | 19:29 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: i never got such fast responses working on foresight or the gnome dev kit... but i guess for ubuntu folks jump a little faster :) | 19:30 |
| seb128 | getting dinner now but I will sponsor that after dinner | 19:30 |
| seb128 | lol | 19:30 |
| seb128 | I think you have been lucky there | 19:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | maybe | 19:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | i have patches submitted places that are like 2 years old and ignored :/ | 19:31 |
| seb128 | but to win you have to play so opening a bug early is usually a good idea anyway ;-) | 19:31 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: bad news dude... indicate-python doesn't build with libindicate 0.1.5 :/ | 19:38 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Oh, fail. | 19:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: on the other hand... pidgin-libnotifiy is rocking! | 19:38 |
| tedg | eeejay: Have you looked at that any? | 19:38 |
| tedg | eeejay: I don't think that we need the new APIs, but having the old ones on the new lib would be nice. | 19:39 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: The queuing of messages is much better in the new plugin, isn't it :) | 19:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah... i am much happier | 19:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | and of course it doesn't exit on close either :) | 19:40 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Yeah, I hear that some people want that feature. | 19:42 |
| tedg | :) | 19:42 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: can you look at indicate-python against 0.1.5? | 19:43 |
| rickspencer3 | tedg: I'm rethinking the whole "exit on close thing" | 19:50 |
| rickspencer3 | perhaps we were hasty? | 19:50 |
| rickspencer3 | j/k | 19:50 |
| tedg | /kick-with-a-vengence rickspencer3 | 19:50 |
| tedg | :) | 19:51 |
| kenvandine_wk | haha | 19:51 |
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| chrisccoulson | hey tedg - just looking at the fusa change at the moment. does your session-management branch contain only the patches up to 84_session_management? | 20:06 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: Yes. | 20:07 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: There's a fun little ripple through all of them there. | 20:07 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks. do you want me to merge my changes in to the session-management branch and the other branch too? (the changes will require updates to some of the other patches so they apply again) | 20:08 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: I can do that, I have a small shell script for it. | 20:14 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: It all uses bazaar magic :) | 20:14 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks tedg | 20:14 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: do you think you could give the ekiga held-back situation a go? slangasek was unhappy with my fix (rightfully so) and he suggested a different approach | 20:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: i actually don't even understand why it was held back | 20:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: what is the bug number? | 20:20 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: 353768 | 20:20 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: bug #353768 | 20:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 353768 in ekiga "Upgrade from 3.0.1-1ubuntu2 to 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 held back" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353768 | 20:20 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: its apt being stupid really | 20:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: and what was slangasek's suggestion? | 20:21 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: we are discussing it on #ubuntu-release just now, he was of the opinion to either revert the plugin name or add dummy transitional package for them | 20:23 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: I would do it, but I'm rather busy with $stuff currently :/ | 20:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | can you just paste the transcript to the bug or in a PM to me? | 20:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | and i will work on it | 20:23 |
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| mvo | kenvandine_wk: will do | 20:37 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: added to the bugrpeort | 20:39 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: I think we need transitional packages for the plugin packages, give me a sec and I can prepare something | 20:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: thx | 20:44 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 - i've done the gnome-session patch we spoke about earlier | 20:48 |
| seb128 | hello chrisccoulson | 20:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: ah, excellent, thanks | 20:48 |
| chrisccoulson | i've done it in bzr and proposed a merge in to ubuntu-desktop | 20:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: ok, we don't receive email about those requests apparently, not sure where they are supposed to show | 20:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine_wk: you said you had 2 pidgin changes pending or only the focus one? | 20:49 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: I uploaded a version into my ppa - the descriptions for the transitional package need a bit of love, otherwise its hopefully ok | 20:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | seb128: only that one | 20:50 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: I guess you can not reproduce the held-back anymore, or can oyu? | 20:50 |
| kenvandine_wk | no :/ | 20:50 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: rickspencer3-afk can still reproduce it, so we can ask him once the ppa is updated :) | 20:52 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: how can you repro it from a ppa? | 20:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | apt-get install ekiga just works... | 20:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: doesn't it just affect the dist-upgrade case? | 20:55 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: just, just please upgrade from beta | 20:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there? | 20:55 |
| seb128 | the gst-plugins-bad0.10 broken pidgin on jabber apparently, it crashes on start now | 20:56 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: I can not reproduce it myself here easily (but I will download a beta desktop cd, that should work to reproduce the upgrade with it) | 20:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes there, really? | 20:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yes :-( | 20:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: I can revert it and open a bug upstream | 20:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks: let's try to figure what is broken and fix it before reverting everything | 20:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I asked you to do the update because it fixes some annoying bugs too | 20:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I will surely not have the time tonight but I can keep some time to fix this tomorrow | 20:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok thanks | 21:00 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: can you ack the indicate-python branch? | 21:10 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: i did have to make a change... added a patch to make it build/work against libindicate 0.1.5 which was just uploaded | 21:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok, not gst's fault, I'm on it | 21:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522669 for details | 21:15 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 522669 in libxml2 "libxml2 overrides per-parser structured error handler" [Unknown,Open] | 21:15 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: looking. let me get those latest bits | 21:28 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: thx | 21:28 |
| asac | seb128: could you look/poke flashplugin-nonfree binary that sits in NEW? | 21:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks: bug fix uploaded | 21:30 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: what was the previous libindicate version? | 21:36 |
| kenvandine_wk | 0.1.4 | 21:37 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 21:37 |
| seb128 | asac: how come there is new binaries for it? | 21:37 |
| seb128 | asac: is that targetted to multiverse now? | 21:38 |
| asac | seb128: its a rename to flashplugin-installer; has been requested multiple times from multiple sides | 21:38 |
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| asac | seb128: yes its still multiverse | 21:38 |
| tedg | seb128: Could you please add bug 356147 to your sponsoring list :) | 21:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 356147 in pidgin-libnotify "summary/title text passed to notify-osd contains HTML-character-references" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356147 | 21:38 |
| seb128 | asac: accepted | 21:39 |
| asac | great | 21:39 |
| seb128 | tedg: looking | 21:39 |
| * asac hugs seb128 | 21:39 | |
| * seb128 hugs asac back | 21:39 | |
| seb128 | tedg: did you get an evolution-indicator update too? it needs a rebuild for soname change and to get evolution translations backs | 21:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: already ? I just uploaded my vm to reproduce the bug to take an eye on it | 21:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: was it easy to fix ? You used a stackstrace I guess | 21:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yeah, pidgin crashing when connecting to jabber is not good ;-) | 21:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks: it was a libxml bug | 21:40 |
| seb128 | thanks to responsive upstream and valgrind I figured it quickly | 21:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: I have to get used to try valgrind and not only gdb :) | 21:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: great! Thanks ;) | 21:41 |
| tedg | seb128: Apparently I did everything but propose the merge... funny. Anyway: https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/evolution-indicator/packaging/+merge/5372 | 21:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks: no problem and sorry for the false alarm in your way, the gstreamer update just triggered the bug | 21:42 |
| seb128 | tedg: thanks | 21:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: no problem :) | 21:42 |
| tedg | seb128: No thank you :) | 21:43 |
| seb128 | I've the feeling I did a week worth of work in a day today | 21:43 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: where is the orig? | 21:43 |
| asac | get-orig-source doesnt fetch it ;) | 21:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: hehe, you will enjoy next Monday, I'm sure :) | 21:44 |
| seb128 | tedg: pidgin-notify uploaded | 21:44 |
| asac | oh its https | 21:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks: next monday GNOME 2.26.1 tarballs are due so I will be working ;-) | 21:44 |
| tedg | seb128: Great! | 21:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I will be enjoying friday to sunday for sure though ;-) | 21:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: vuntz told me it was on Wednesday, or I have misunderstood him :) | 21:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, I will be there on Monday to give an hand :) | 21:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: tarballs are due on monday, GNOME on wednesday | 21:45 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: seems your branch doesnt build for me. fails to apply that patch ;) | 21:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: excellent thanks | 21:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: oki ;) | 21:45 |
| asac | let me check again | 21:45 |
| didrocks | time to go to bed for me, see you tomorrow | 21:45 |
| asac | heh works. blind me | 21:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: 'night | 21:46 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: set minimal version to build depend for libindicate-dev ... because the api/abi was changed | 21:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, you too in few hours ;) (few… I hope for you ^^) | 21:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yeah, I will probably work for an another hour or 2 and crash to bed | 21:46 |
| rickspencer3 | ArneGoetje: asac: bryce: calc: kenvandine_wk Riddell seb128 ... | 21:54 |
| rickspencer3 | just wanted to point out that a couple of hours ago ... | 21:54 |
| rickspencer3 | the desktop team had zero bugs on the RC list!! | 21:54 |
| seb128 | waouh ;-) | 21:54 |
| bryce | \o/ | 21:54 |
| seb128 | "a couple of hours ago" | 21:54 |
| seb128 | did we get new ones since? ;-) | 21:54 |
| rickspencer3 | last time I checked | 21:54 |
| rickspencer3 | I hope not, I'm afraid to look :) | 21:54 |
| asac | rock on ;) | 21:55 |
| * asac goes and opens a few late april joke bugs | 21:55 | |
| rickspencer3 | hehe | 21:56 |
| rickspencer3 | someone should log a bug against notify-osd: | 21:56 |
| rickspencer3 | "notify-osd does not support action buttons" | 21:56 |
| seb128 | yeah | 21:56 |
| asac | heh. not that topic again ;) | 21:57 |
| seb128 | ok, so we did transition to libindicate1 in jaunty | 21:57 |
| asac | lol | 21:57 |
| seb128 | ie I cleaned the sponsoring requests from kenvandine_wk and tedg now | 21:57 |
| asac | yeah. i found that now ;) | 21:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: doing it now | 21:57 |
| seb128 | so everything should be using the new version soon | 21:57 |
| seb128 | and the pidgin behaviour should be better | 21:57 |
| Nafallo | does that include the one in NEW? :-) | 21:58 |
| Nafallo | (python-indicate) | 21:58 |
| seb128 | Nafallo: new was empty when I looked at it 15 minutes ago | 21:58 |
| Nafallo | I guess that sounds good :-) | 21:58 |
| asac | Nafallo: its not uploaded | 21:58 |
| asac | that will happen soon most likely | 21:58 |
| Nafallo | meh. oki. | 21:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: done and pushed | 21:59 |
| seb128 | in fact not it's not empty but that is not in the queue | 21:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: oh... the patch doesn't apply for you? | 21:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | wtf | 21:59 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: no it works | 21:59 |
| asac | all fine | 21:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok :) | 21:59 |
| kenvandine_wk | good | 21:59 |
| asac | i just try to get latest indicate to test. | 22:04 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 22:06 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/ppa/+build/942108 :/ that looks like it will not finish before I go to bed. I have a day off tomorrow and then is easter. could you watch out for it and drive it? hopefully it just works and just needs someone to upload it | 22:08 |
| seb128 | mvo: enjoy your well deserved weekend! | 22:09 |
| asac | mvo: enjoy | 22:09 |
| mvo | I will be here for a bit longer :( | 22:09 |
| mvo | but yeah, I look forward to it :) | 22:09 |
| seb128 | still a pleasure to have you around there ;-) | 22:10 |
| seb128 | still feel to join the club of those who don't sleep who is lead by asac | 22:10 |
| mvo | haha, thanks! | 22:10 |
| asac | ;) | 22:10 |
| mvo | asac never sleeps? | 22:10 |
| seb128 | not during the night apparently | 22:10 |
| asac | mvo: why would i ... i dont drink tea ;) | 22:11 |
| mvo | and *how* did you find out ;) ? | 22:11 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: will do | 22:12 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: thanks a lot! | 22:13 |
| * mvo hugs kenvandine_wk | 22:13 | |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: enjoy some time off :) | 22:13 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: so how can i test this from your ppa? | 22:13 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: easiest is probably to ask rickspencer3 to add the ppa to his sources.list (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu jaunty main) and then run apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade - if ekiga no longer displayed as held-back its solved | 22:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | ah | 22:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | so that would get it in a dist-upgrade | 22:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | ok | 22:14 |
| kenvandine_wk | great | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | rickspencer3: i will be pinging you about that tomorrow :) | 22:15 |
| mvo | alternatively a jaunty beta desktop cd should work as well | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | i have a VM i can rollback too | 22:15 |
| mvo | yeah, the problem currently is that its held back there | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: how is indicate-python looking? | 22:15 |
| mvo | and update-manager should show it not grayed out too :) | 22:15 |
| mvo | kenvandine_wk: vm> execllent! | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: that is always a good thing :) | 22:15 |
| kenvandine_wk | mvo: thx again... enjoy your day off :) | 22:16 |
| mvo | :) | 22:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: i have to run to get the kids ready for soccer... but will try to check-in before i leave to make sure there are no blockers :) | 22:19 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: i think its ok. i have to find a archive admin who will take care of the NEWing though to check on the licensing | 22:19 |
| asac | would be bad if it gets rejected ;) | 22:19 |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah :/ | 22:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | please let me know | 22:20 |
| asac | james_w: you available for the NEWing? | 22:20 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: i have a patch that fixes the COPYING files | 22:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-applet/indicate-python/revision/22 | 22:23 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: that would be a good start. could you also make a patch for those test files ;) | 22:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | if that helps | 22:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | i have that too | 22:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | one sec | 22:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-applet/indicate-python/revision/23 | 22:24 |
| kenvandine_wk | i really have to go | 22:24 |
| rickspencer3 | hey all | 22:24 |
| djsiegel1 | rickspencer3: hey | 22:24 |
| rickspencer3 | djsiegel1 == gnomedo | 22:25 |
| asac | kenvandine_wk: lets see if i can get some archive admin input ;) | 22:25 |
| rickspencer3 | now works at Canonical on Ux team | 22:25 |
| asac | welcome djsiegel1 | 22:26 |
| eeejay | hey kenvandine_wk | 22:26 |
| asac | hope you enjoy #ubuntu-desktop ;) | 22:26 |
| seb128 | hello djsiegel1 | 22:28 |
| bryce | welcome aboard djsiegel1 | 22:29 |
| djsiegel1 | thank you, seb128, bryce | 22:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: gnome-session uploaded, do you think you could send those changes upstream too? | 22:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: there is also the 2.26.0.90 update to do if you want ;-) | 22:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't mind doing that:) perhaps tomorrow night if thats ok though - just working on the fusa changes now | 22:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: right, really no hurry I did the snapshot today | 22:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: vuntz just fixed some small bugs before rolling the tarball | 22:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: there is really no hurry there | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | that's good. i'll sort that out tomorrow evening after work hopefully | 22:34 |
| seb128 | ok thanks, you work is really appreciated ;-) | 22:34 |
| chrisccoulson | you're welcome:) | 22:34 |
| james_w | asac: I don't think I should as I reviewed the packaging | 22:51 |
| seb128 | asac: try asking slangasek on the next channel ;-) | 22:52 |
| james_w | StevenK should be online soon and it is his day | 22:52 |
| asac | yeah lets poke stevenk | 22:54 |
| seb128 | I appreciate that you don't try to make me review it ;-) I'm not the best person to ask for license review and I'm busy this week ;-) | 22:56 |
| asac | seb128: i left you out intentionally ;) | 23:04 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: ping about bug 338963 and bug 352653 | 23:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 338963 in coherence "Totem: loading "Coherence DLNA/UPnP Client" results in: "ImportError: No module named coherence.ui.av_widgets" " [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338963 | 23:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 352653 in coherence "python-coherence: /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.Coherence.service should be included" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352653 | 23:16 |
| james_w | hi Ampelbein | 23:16 |
| Ampelbein | hi. | 23:16 |
| Ampelbein | the thing is that python-coherence can't be shipped on the live-cd as seb128 pointed out. | 23:17 |
| asac | james_w: hmm ... where were those auto synched bzr branches for our packages again ;)? | 23:18 |
| Ampelbein | so this "ugly" error message by totem should be fixed by not-shipping the totem-plugin on the cd also. | 23:18 |
| Ampelbein | or at least have the error message changed to something more useful. | 23:20 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: ok, Charlie highlighted as something he wanted to fix for Jaunty, but it shouldn't block your fix | 23:22 |
| james_w | if you could have nailed both in one upload then it would have been great | 23:22 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: the plugin for totem is in totem-plugins, while the missing dbus-file is in python-coherence. | 23:22 |
| Ampelbein | james_w: we could split-out the coherence-plugin to a seperate totem-plugins-coherence package and have that depend on python-coherence, but i don't know if thats gonna be useful. | 23:23 |
| james_w | I'm not sure | 23:24 |
| seb128 | I've missed the start of the discussion | 23:25 |
| seb128 | what is the issue? | 23:25 |
| seb128 | we have totem-plugins-extra for the purpose of "plugins which need universe depends to work" | 23:25 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: bug 338963 and bug 352653 | 23:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 338963 in coherence "Totem: loading "Coherence DLNA/UPnP Client" results in: "ImportError: No module named coherence.ui.av_widgets" " [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/338963 | 23:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 352653 in coherence "python-coherence: /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.Coherence.service should be included" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352653 | 23:26 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: then i suggest to move the coherence-plugin to totem-plugins-extra. | 23:26 |
| seb128 | seems a reasonable suggestion indeed | 23:26 |
| Ampelbein | since it needs python-coherence to function. | 23:26 |
| seb128 | want to work on the change? | 23:26 |
| Ampelbein | sure. | 23:26 |
| seb128 | thanks | 23:26 |
| seb128 | you need to use a Replaces since you will move files between binaries | 23:27 |
| seb128 | and don't forget to update the descriptions ;-) | 23:27 |
| Ampelbein | i'll try to be perfect ;-) | 23:27 |
| Ampelbein | james_w, seb128: i think the change to 352653 can be uploaded nonetheless. | 23:28 |
| seb128 | I will let a MOTU review that | 23:28 |
| seb128 | i've too much to do already | 23:28 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: I'm sure it can, thanks for investigating | 23:29 |
| james_w | Ampelbein: drop a note in the bug and it will appear in my Inbox to remind me to upload tomorrow | 23:29 |
| Ampelbein | will do. | 23:29 |
| Laney | are fakesyncs done by AAs? | 23:34 |
| Laney | hm, meant that for -motu | 23:35 |
| seb128 | Laney: why not doing a real sync? | 23:36 |
| Laney | orig mismatch | 23:36 |
| seb128 | yeah, so they are a normal upload | 23:36 |
| Laney | ok, thought so | 23:36 |
| seb128 | use an ubuntu revision so there is no confusion and nobody tries to sync a new revision from debian next cycle | 23:37 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: should the replaces be (<< 2.26.1-0ubuntu3), as this is the version i'm building or rather (<= 2.26.1-0ubuntu2), the version currently in the archive? | 23:39 |
| seb128 | either way | 23:40 |
| seb128 | they are equivalent | 23:41 |
| Ampelbein | ok, so there is no standard way of doing it? | 23:41 |
| seb128 | not that I know about | 23:42 |
| asac | Ampelbein: use << 3 ... in that way versions like ubuntu2.xxx would still be replaced (e.g. in ppas or downstreams) | 23:44 |
| Ampelbein | asac: ok, thanks. | 23:44 |
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