| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: see my merge request? | 01:01 |
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| vorian | oh brother | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | hm? | 02:15 |
| vorian | this channel is not registered | 02:15 |
| tedg | vorian: How do we register it? | 02:17 |
| vorian | that's gonna be tricky :) | 02:17 |
| * tedg is relatively new to this stuff. | 02:17 | |
| vorian | tedg: first things is this, a group contact needs to be established | 02:18 |
| * vorian gets another linky | 02:18 | |
| vorian | http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml | 02:18 |
| tedg | vorian: Okay, that makes sense. We're closely related to the Ubuntu folks. Does it make sense to put us under their contact, or to create another? | 02:20 |
| tedg | vorian: Or does that imply a namespace? | 02:20 |
| vorian | i would create another, but it is up to you all, and the #ubuntu IRC council | 02:20 |
| vorian | yeah, that would imply a namespace | 02:21 |
| * vorian would stick with this one | 02:21 | |
| tedg | vorian: Thanks for the information, I think that davidbarth would probably be a good contact, but he's asleep right now. | 02:23 |
| vorian | no problem | 02:23 |
| tedg | vorian: I'll send him a mail, and hopefully get this started tomorrow. | 02:23 |
| vorian | excellent | 02:23 |
| tedg | vorian: What should we do about #dx? Wait until this is registered? | 02:24 |
| vorian | there's not much that can be done about it | 02:24 |
| tedg | Can you set the topic to "everyone's moved to #ayatana" ? | 02:24 |
| tedg | So atleast people know we're not leaving them behind :) | 02:24 |
| vorian | what if a nintendo fan comes in, and thinks "cool, we moved!" | 02:25 |
| tedg | Then we'll work on making them a Ubuntu fan ;) | 02:25 |
| vorian | :) | 02:25 |
| tedg | Perhaps text like "If you're looking for the Ubuntu DX channel it is now #ayatana" | 02:26 |
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| mpt | bratsche, notification-daemon treats title text verbatim too | 09:19 |
| mpt | Try it: notify-send "Joe's phone is online" "fish & chips" | 09:20 |
| mpt | Compare with notify-send "Joe's phone is online" "fish & chips" | 09:21 |
| mpt | notification-daemon renders the "'" as "'" | 09:21 |
| mpt | so, so should notify-osd. | 09:21 |
| davidbarth | eeejay: hi eitan | 11:59 |
| davidbarth | do you have the latest pidgin package (pidgin + indicator stuff)? | 12:01 |
| * MacSlow -> lunch | 12:24 | |
| eeejay | hey tedg! | 14:20 |
| tedg | Good morning eeejay | 14:20 |
| eeejay | tedg: kenvandine_wk: we need some quick decisions about the python bindings, eh? | 14:21 |
| tedg | eeejay: Yes. | 14:21 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Did you get an initial upload sponsored? | 14:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | yes | 14:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | with the patch | 14:22 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: patch that lets it build against 0.1.5? | 14:22 |
| kenvandine_wk | yes | 14:23 |
| eeejay | ah, cool | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: tedg has a branch that fixes some stuff that broke with 0.1.5 | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: and i have a merge request too | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | think you can bring all that together and make a 0.0.3? | 14:23 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: you bet.. | 14:23 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: rock! | 14:24 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 14:24 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: so this branch add some important dist files, bumps the version.. | 14:25 |
| * eeejay looks | 14:25 | |
| kenvandine_wk | yeah | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | the last tarball had 0.0.1 in configure.ac | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | but was a 0.0.2 tarball | 14:25 |
| eeejay | hehe | 14:25 |
| kenvandine_wk | also the COPYING files... we had some complaints in getting it reviewed about that | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | since it is dual licensed | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | so i did that | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | as well as the files in tests | 14:26 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: where does the build patch you made live? | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg's branch | 14:26 |
| kenvandine_wk | one sec | 14:26 |
| * eeejay didn't know it is dual licensed | 14:26 | |
| kenvandine_wk | it is in the source files :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine_wk | i assumed you did that | 14:27 |
| kenvandine_wk | lp:~ted-gould/indicator-applet/python-bindings-dont-know-what-im-doing | 14:27 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: doh! | 14:27 |
| tedg | eeejay: We had to do LGPL v2/3 because some apps can't link against one or the other. | 14:27 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: tedg: ah.. phew, i thought i was just being sloppy | 14:28 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 14:28 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: i think merging my branch and tedgs into your's... then create a tarball | 14:28 |
| eeejay | tedg: i couldn't get your branch to work with listen-and-print.py, is it supposed to? | 14:28 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: it would also be great if the tests files got installed as docs | 14:28 |
| tedg | eeejay: I didn't try that. I asked kenvandine_wk to check out Gwibber and Gajim. | 14:29 |
| tedg | eeejay: Probably I broke the listener interface. | 14:29 |
| eeejay | tedg: but they don't use the listener iface | 14:29 |
| tedg | I said in the branch name that I didn't know what I was doing ;) | 14:29 |
| eeejay | tedg: true, i guess you aren't liable then | 14:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | i tested the im example, gwibber and gajim | 14:30 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: i updated trunk to work with 0.1.5 | 14:30 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: without tedg's branch | 14:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | gajim actually only half works... but i think that is because the gajim guys changed my patch :) | 14:30 |
| tedg | eeejay: Do you see an easy thing that I broke? | 14:30 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: ok... i tested it with tedg's changes | 14:31 |
| eeejay | tedg: you didn't break anything that was not broken already | 14:31 |
| tedg | eeejay: I was just trying to change to O instead of s and i for the various indicator struct pointers. | 14:31 |
| eeejay | tedg: but you failed to fix the listener iface :) | 14:31 |
| tedg | Does it make sense to mark it as broken for 0.0.3 then? | 14:32 |
| eeejay | tedg: yeah, that won't work. you obviously didn't know what you were doing ;) | 14:32 |
| eeejay | tedg: yes, it does | 14:32 |
| * eeejay wrote about it extensively in the merge request | 14:32 | |
| eeejay | https://code.launchpad.net/~ted-gould/indicator-applet/python-bindings-dont-know-what-im-doing/+merge/5366 | 14:33 |
| tedg | eeejay: Heh, hadn't gotten to that mail yet. | 14:34 |
| tedg | eeejay: Yes, everything you say there :) | 14:34 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: hummm... it did work though :) | 14:36 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: what worked? | 14:36 |
| tedg | eeejay: So without the boxing, could we have something reasonable that would link against 0.1.5? It seems so if we drop listener, right? | 14:37 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg's code | 14:37 |
| eeejay | tedg: exactly | 14:37 |
| tedg | And the fact that you manually undid the enum, that would be "unpythonic" but work. | 14:37 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: with gwibber and gajim? yeah, it should work with those | 14:37 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: the listener interface is broken | 14:37 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: ok... so it works fine for everything we know about now | 14:38 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: which only matters if you are implementing a new indicator-applet-like app | 14:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | so not "awefule" | 14:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | aweful even | 14:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | but we should fix it | 14:38 |
| hyperair | does anybody know if Bug #345837 is reallly a duplicate of Bug #345296? | 14:38 |
| eeejay | tedg: the enum actually is not relevant, since the listener iface is broken | 14:38 |
| hyperair | their descriptions seem to show that the bugs really are different. | 14:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: ok... so you already have these issues fixed? | 14:39 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: yeah, we should keep the gwibber and gajim folks happy | 14:39 |
| tedg | eeejay: Except for the signal coming from the server to say that someone is interested, right? | 14:39 |
| tedg | eeejay: I think, interested_added and interest_removed both use the enum. | 14:39 |
| eeejay | tedg: which symbol does that? | 14:40 |
| tedg | I doubt that Gwibber or Gajim are using that though. | 14:40 |
| * eeejay looks at server.h | 14:40 | |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: today is freeze... so if we are getting a fix in, lets do it real soon :) | 14:40 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: okie dokes | 14:40 |
| tedg | hyperair: Seems odd to me too. MacSlow do you know if those bugs are dups ^^ | 14:41 |
| hyperair | tedg: it would be nice if that oen could get fixed before jaunty, because it's really annoying if you use media keys with banshee. | 14:41 |
| tedg | So, to summarize. If we go with my "don't know what I'm doing branch" and make a 0.0.3 we'll link against 0.1.5 but the listener interface will be broken. And we've got a plan to make that better for 0.0.4. Is that a good summary eeejay kenvandine_wk? | 14:42 |
| * eeejay moves swiftly | 14:42 | |
| eeejay | tedg: the relevant changes from your branch have been in trunk for a while | 14:43 |
| * eeejay acts swiftly | 14:43 | |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: well how hard is fixing the listener interface? | 14:43 |
| tedg | eeejay: Heh, okay. Are you going to spin a 0.0.3 then or should I? | 14:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | it would be nice to make a 0.0.3 with that | 14:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: cause what we have now is as good as that... no need to spin a release :) | 14:44 |
| eeejay | tedg: let me get the branch in shape, we could all agree, and i will cut a release | 14:44 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: 0.0.2 was uploaded with the patch from your branch | 14:44 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: Yeah, I'd like to get something cleaner than what I did if possible. | 14:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | tedg: yeah... but i am hoping we can fix the other issue at the same time :) | 14:45 |
| tedg | kenvandine_wk: I'm not a python fan, and I think it shows :) | 14:45 |
| kenvandine_wk | hehe | 14:45 |
| * kenvandine_wk would chose python over C any day... but lets not have that debate | 14:45 | |
| * tedg is going to make a T-shirt: "You can take my semicolon from my cold dead hands." :) | 14:49 | |
| * eeejay rejects tedg's branch because of his hateful comments | 14:52 | |
| * hyperair kills tedg and takes his semicolon | 14:53 | |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: would you mind testing trunk one last time before i upload the tarball? | 14:53 |
| hyperair | tedg: i believe it's s/take/pry/ | 14:53 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: certainly | 14:54 |
| tedg | hyperair: Heh, need to spend more time at NRA rallies... research... | 14:54 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: is it ready now? | 14:54 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: yup! | 14:54 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: lp:~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-applet/indicate-python <- to avoid confusion | 14:55 |
| hyperair | tedg: ? | 14:56 |
| tedg | hyperair: I believe that the guns phrase that is taken from is an NRA one. | 14:57 |
| kenvandine_wk | testing nwo | 14:57 |
| eeejay | i think charlton heston would say that at NRA rallies | 14:58 |
| hyperair | tedg: no idea. i see it everywhere | 14:58 |
| eeejay | or michael moore lead me to believe that | 14:58 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: not so smooth? | 15:04 |
| Hobbsee | gah. Did this latest version of pidgin stuff get tested? | 15:06 |
| Hobbsee | i'm now getting pidgin segfaulting. | 15:06 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: sorry... phone rang | 15:06 |
| kenvandine_wk | testing now | 15:06 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: phew, thought you were in debugging craze | 15:06 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: pidgin-libnotify? There is a big pidgin bug with Jabber right now. | 15:10 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: not good | 15:10 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: crasher? | 15:10 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: oh, there was another change there. I assumed it was notify killing it. | 15:10 |
| kenvandine_wk | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/indicate/__init__.py", line 26, in <module> | 15:11 |
| kenvandine_wk | from _indicate import * | 15:11 |
| kenvandine_wk | ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/indicate/_indicate.so: undefined symbol: indicate_server_show_indicator_to_user | 15:11 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: It seems to be related to gstreamer -- I don't really get how though. | 15:11 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: ^^ | 15:11 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: oh, fun. | 15:12 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: checking now.. | 15:12 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: thanks. Wish I knew how to disable the jabber bit! | 15:13 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: I don't think there's a way, but if you uninstall one of the gstreamer plugin packs, I think bad, it gets better. | 15:13 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: thanks | 15:14 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: i don't have that symbol in my version, are you certain you installed it in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/indicate? | 15:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | yes | 15:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | i did a make dist | 15:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | then build the package from that tarball | 15:16 |
| kenvandine_wk | let me compare files | 15:16 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: if you didn't give it /usr as the prefix, it should be in /usr/local | 15:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | oh | 15:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | humm | 15:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: i installed it from a package | 15:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | it didn't use my tarball | 15:17 |
| kenvandine_wk | hang on | 15:17 |
| eeejay | you scared me for a moment | 15:18 |
| eeejay | i usually give it some arbitrary prefix, and set PYTHONPATH to that | 15:18 |
| kenvandine_wk | i like testing with packages | 15:18 |
| kenvandine_wk | i am a nut that way | 15:18 |
| eeejay | heh | 15:19 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: you marked bug #345837 as a dupicate of #345296 right? are you sure it's really a duplicate? | 15:20 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: the descriptions seem rather different. | 15:20 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: hi, let me check again | 15:22 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: alright | 15:23 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: you're right this one is not a duplicate | 15:24 |
| davidbarth | it is the issue with the close_notification_handler | 15:25 |
| hyperair | hmm | 15:25 |
| hyperair | haven't looked at notify-osd's code yet | 15:25 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: speaking of pidgin, has anyone tested the notifications on dist-upgraded machines? I found some strangeness, before i wiped my ~/.purple directory, and started again | 15:25 |
| hyperair | but it would be good if the priority for this bug could be raised a little | 15:25 |
| davidbarth | but there was anohter bug I thought with banshee/rhythmbox bubbles crashing into synchronous ones | 15:25 |
| hyperair | it's very annoying, and very visible when you use banshee with media keys | 15:25 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: the problem has been fixed (sort of) by not sending confirmation bubbles from gnome-settings-daemon | 15:26 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: rhythmbox doesnt have this issue, because it updates the existing bubble rather than deleting the old and spawning a new | 15:26 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: from an architecture point of view, that was not great | 15:26 |
| hyperair | hmm. why not? | 15:26 |
| davidbarth | so the bug should not occur anymore | 15:26 |
| davidbarth | even if the corner-case still exists in the layout code of n-osd | 15:26 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: it won't occur as often, but it'll still occur. | 15:26 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: I haven't tried that specifically. Though I haven't noticed any bugs related to something like that. What was the weirdness? | 15:26 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: e.g. when i adjust my volume when pidgin fires up a notification | 15:27 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: and there are multiple | 15:27 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: ah, and pidgin /force/ closes the bubbles? | 15:27 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: ok... it works | 15:27 |
| kenvandine_wk | the listener still shouldn't work right? | 15:27 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: new messages in pidgin not showing up in the envelope at all (although it would show up most of the time with the little black notification) | 15:27 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: sweet! | 15:27 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: you don't need to force close the bubbles for it to happen i think | 15:28 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: right | 15:28 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: pushing a tarball now | 15:28 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 15:28 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: but okay, supposing you change your volume while banshee's switching songs, you'd get that. | 15:28 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: ie, if you missed the black notification, there was absolutely no indication of a new message | 15:28 |
| davidbarth | hyperair: the bug with update was fixed, as well as other potential visual collisions between sync and async bubbles | 15:28 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: That might have been related to a couple of bugs that we just fixed in indicator-messages, they had the possibility of getting lost. | 15:29 |
| davidbarth | it's in the lates tarball of today (not yesterday) | 15:29 |
| davidbarth | brb | 15:29 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: Hopefully those are fixed, I'm curious why removing .purple would solve that. | 15:29 |
| tedg | Hobbsee: Honestly, I'm hoping they were unrelated :) | 15:29 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: I'm not sure. I tested it a few days ago, removed ~/.purple, set up the user accounts again, and it worked fine. | 15:30 |
| hyperair | davidbarth: i see, then it should be considered fixed then =\ | 15:30 |
| Hobbsee | tedg: might be worth trying to find some people to test that | 15:30 |
| eeejay | tedg: i don't think i have perms to register a new release in the 0.1 indicator-applet series | 15:33 |
| bratsche | Oh nice, I think this new text filter works well. | 15:34 |
| tedg | eeejay: Okay, made it: https://edge.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/0.1/python0.0.3 | 15:35 |
| tedg | eeejay: Can you add files? | 15:35 |
| eeejay | tedg: yep, thanks | 15:35 |
| eeejay | tedg: kenvandine_wk: released | 15:38 |
| tedg | eeejay: Yeah! Great! | 15:38 |
| kenvandine_wk | great | 15:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | i already subscribed motu-release :) | 15:39 |
| kenvandine_wk | bug 358483 | 15:39 |
| eeejay | sweet | 15:40 |
| kenvandine_wk | asac and james_w are looking at it | 15:41 |
| kenvandine_wk | eeejay: mind filing a bug about the listener so we can track it? | 15:43 |
| eeejay | kenvandine_wk: yup, will do | 15:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | thx | 15:43 |
| kenvandine_wk | please subscribe me too :) | 15:43 |
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| maco | whoops | 19:17 |
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