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CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3196 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog init):00:13
CIA-28ubiquity: Try a couple of different locations for NetworkManager's init script00:13
CIA-28ubiquity: (LP: #356813).00:13
CIA-28console-setup: cjwatson * r102 ubuntu/ (Keyboard/kbdcompiler debian/changelog debian/config.proto): Treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as non-Latin (LP: #356816).00:24
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3197 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/console_setup.py):00:26
CIA-28ubiquity: Sync with console-setup 1.28ubuntu8: treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as00:26
CIA-28ubiquity: non-Latin (LP: #356816).00:26
CIA-28oem-config: cjwatson * r652 trunk/ (debian/changelog lib/components/console_setup.py):00:28
CIA-28oem-config: Sync with console-setup 1.28ubuntu8: treat the Kazakhstan layout (kz) as00:28
CIA-28oem-config: non-Latin (LP: #356816).00:28
CIA-28debian-installer: cjwatson * r1080 ubuntu/ (35 files in 2 dirs): Update help text translations from Launchpad.01:00
CIA-28partman-base: cjwatson * r154 ubuntu/debian/po/ (19 files): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.01:07
CIA-28pkgsel: cjwatson * r137 ubuntu/debian/po/ (el.po ko.po): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.01:13
CIA-28user-setup: cjwatson * r173 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog po/ca.po po/el.po): Update Ubuntu-specific strings from Launchpad.01:15
CIA-28console-setup: cjwatson * r103 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu801:21
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3198 ubiquity/debian/ (80 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.01:36
CIA-28oem-config: cjwatson * r653 trunk/debian/ (64 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.01:41
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3199 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/timezone.py):01:56
CIA-28ubiquity: Work around a debconf bug which broke the default time zone for some01:56
CIA-28ubiquity: countries: REGISTER does not appear to give a newly-registered question01:56
CIA-28ubiquity: the same default as the question associated with its template, unless we01:56
CIA-28ubiquity: also RESET it, so do that (LP: #356794).01:56
CIA-28oem-config: cjwatson * r654 trunk/ (debian/changelog lib/components/timezone.py):01:59
CIA-28oem-config: Work around a debconf bug which broke the default time zone for some01:59
CIA-28oem-config: countries: REGISTER does not appear to give a newly-registered question01:59
CIA-28oem-config: the same default as the question associated with its template, unless we01:59
CIA-28oem-config: also RESET it, so do that (LP: #356794).01:59
CIA-28base-installer: cjwatson * r362 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.98ubuntu602:03
CIA-28cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r438 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.30ubuntu302:07
CIA-28partman-auto: cjwatson * r287 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 84ubuntu302:13
CIA-28partman-base: cjwatson * r155 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 129ubuntu702:18
CIA-28partman-crypto: cjwatson * r678 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 36ubuntu502:20
CIA-28partman-target: cjwatson * r759 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 58ubuntu702:24
CIA-28pkgsel: cjwatson * r138 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.20ubuntu1502:26
CIA-28user-setup: cjwatson * r174 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.23ubuntu1802:28
dpmcjwatson: hi, good morning. I've had a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/d-i-translations/ after what you mentioned on ubuntu-translators about errors still being present. Do I understand it correctly that entries with the 09-Apr-2009 00:51 date (I assume you did the last script run last night) still have errors and the other ones have not got any?08:21
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CIA-28oem-config: cjwatson * r655 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):10:03
CIA-28oem-config: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup 1.28ubuntu8,10:03
CIA-28oem-config: user-setup 1.23ubuntu18.10:03
cjwatsondpm: yes, that's right10:04
cjwatsondpm: I've noticed a fairly steady improvement since I posted about that, although one or two regressions10:05
CIA-28oem-config: cjwatson * r656 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.54.1210:07
davmor2cjwatson: did you lvm2 fix work?10:12
cjwatsonit worked for me in the localised tests I was able to do; I don't know if it worked in full-scale certification tests10:14
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3200 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):10:14
CIA-28ubiquity: Provide translation support for the format warning on the automatic10:14
CIA-28ubiquity: partitioning page, and make it less tied to English grammar. Thanks10:14
CIA-28ubiquity: Timo Jyrinki (LP: #356333).10:14
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3201 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):10:19
CIA-28ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer10:19
CIA-28ubiquity: 1.98ubuntu6, console-setup 1.28ubuntu8, flash-kernel 2.13ubuntu6,10:19
CIA-28ubiquity: partman-auto 84ubuntu3, partman-base 129ubuntu7, partman-target10:19
CIA-28ubiquity: 58ubuntu7, user-setup 1.23ubuntu18.10:19
cjwatsonevand: anything else before an upload, since we need one for the final freeze? (do you want to do it or shall I?)10:20
evandgive me a few minutes to squeeze in the migration-assistant fix, then I'll do the upload, if that's ok10:20
cjwatsonok10:21
cjwatsonyou'll need to do a debian/rules update too then, of course10:21
evandwill do10:21
evanda debconf-updatepo as well for the new template, or should I avoid that for some reason?10:22
CIA-28debian-installer: cjwatson * r1084 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu3210:22
cjwatsonoh, hmm. yes10:22
cjwatsonI mean, yes debconf-updatepo10:22
evandok10:22
cjwatsonalthough there is almost no chance of any translations being in place for release10:22
davmor2cjwatson: cool :)10:22
cjwatsonI can make sure LP is up to date at least ...10:23
CIA-28migration-assistant: evand * r94 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-ask):10:26
CIA-28migration-assistant: If there are no items to import, don't bother asking the question. This10:26
CIA-28migration-assistant: supports a change to ubiquity to not always show the migration-assistant10:26
CIA-28migration-assistant: page.10:26
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3202 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/migrationassistant.py):10:31
CIA-28ubiquity: Only show the migration-assistant page if we have items we can10:31
CIA-28ubiquity: import.10:31
davmor2evand: Yay10:33
CIA-28migration-assistant: evand * r95 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: Fix the last changelog update. The previous version was uploaded without updating bzr.10:34
evandcjwatson: are you able to process the approval queue or would that be a conflict of interest?  I need a m-a upload in support of this change, unless you think it's not important to warrant it, in which case I'll just shelve it for Karmic and continue with the ubiquity upload.10:41
davmor2evand: no it's important honest.  Less confusing on newcomers10:43
cjwatsonevand: I think it's important but it might be better if somebody non-installer accepted it10:44
cjwatson10:43 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New package: migration-assistant (main) [0.6.2 → 0.6.4]10:44
cjwatsonevand: you sure that 0.6.3 had been uploaded? queuebot doesn't think so ...10:45
evandhrm, I think I'm moving too quickly10:45
cjwatsonnot that it hugely matters, that just means a release team member will be reviewing both at once10:45
evandI assumed given that 0.6.3 was rejected as it was already in the archive10:45
cjwatson(i.e. don't reupload for that now)10:45
cjwatsonbut it's not in the archive, according to queuebot10:45
evand File migration-assistant_0.6.3.tar.gz already exists in Primary Archive for Ubuntu, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.10:45
cjwatsonblink10:45
cjwatsonaha10:46
evandI figured I forgot to do a debcommit --release10:46
cjwatsonmigration-assistant |      0.6.3 | hardy-updates | source10:46
evandah10:46
evandwhoops10:46
cjwatsonthat was an unwise choice of versioning ...10:46
evandabsolutely10:46
evandnot sure what possessed me to do that10:46
cjwatsonprobably would've been ok if intrepid had been bumped to 0.7.x10:46
evandindeed, though I think 0.6.4 is fine for now, and I'll correct it going forward in Karmic10:50
cjwatsonevand: oh, we should fix the scaling-up of the timezone map widget11:29
evandok11:35
cjwatsonI think it's just incorrect expand/fill11:37
cjwatsonI don't have a current image though, so you might be faster if you do11:37
evandsure11:40
evandwouldn't that mean it wouldn't scale at all when the user resized the window?12:01
cjwatsonyep12:03
cjwatsonbetter to not scale than to scale to something fuzzy, imo?12:04
evandsure, but then anyone with a resolution < 1024x768 is going to automatically get a window that has the timezone map at half its size12:04
evandas that's what it sets the allocation to in that case, assuming I'm reading this correctly12:04
evandand hooray, laptop just hard locked12:04
evanderr I stand corrected, X locked12:05
cjwatsonright, but they probably won't be able to resize the window up to a point where a bigger map would be useful then12:05
evandok, fair enough12:08
evandlet me just test this once more to make sure I'm absolutely certain it's working12:08
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3203 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog gui/glade/stepLocation.glade): Don't let the time zone map image grow larger than the original.12:16
evandspot on, you raised the exact point about m-a that I wanted to bring up (being unable to import from a system you're about to delete)12:21
cjwatsonI'm certainly worried about accuracy there12:22
cjwatsonif m-a misses something, you're kind of screwed :)12:22
cjwatsonbut I was a bit bemused that the focus was on m-a in that discussion, because it seems to me that there are other much tougher points12:23
cjwatsonthanks for r320312:23
evandindeed12:23
evandsure thing12:23
cjwatsondoesn't look like anyone else is around, so I've reviewed m-a and accepted it12:31
cjwatsonevand: is the fix for bug 341605 rolled out now?12:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 341605 in Ubuntu Jaunty "Wubi 9.04 uninstaller cannot delete the directory containing the uninstaller itself" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34160512:44
evandshould be.  Let me download a CD and double check.12:45
cjwatsonevand: and I think bug 339898 needs to be closed by hand12:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339898 in migration-assistant "jaunty: Migration-Assistant always comes on when os is present" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33989812:45
cjwatson(also, I don't think you pushed your release commit to m-a trunk?)12:45
evandah, I was looking for that earlier!12:45
cjwatsonoh, sorry, I've had it open :)12:46
cjwatsonevand: you might want to unduplicate bug 349334; as far as I can tell that's the problem covered by your TODO comment12:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 349334 in ubiquity "(jaunty) Migrating option from drive that is going to be formatted (dup-of: 339898)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34933412:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339898 in migration-assistant "jaunty: Migration-Assistant always comes on when os is present" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33989812:47
evandre m-a commit> loggerhead shows it in trunk12:47
cjwatsonTree is up to date at revision 95.12:48
cjwatson$ head -n1 debian/changelog12:48
cjwatsonmigration-assistant (0.6.4) UNRELEASED; urgency=low12:48
CIA-28migration-assistant: evand * r96 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.6.412:49
evandah sorry, I hadn't committed yet.  I always wait for the package to be accepted.12:49
evanddone12:49
cjwatsonoh, right12:51
loolcjwatson: We uploaded a fix in flash-kernel-installer yesteday, to be picked up it needs not only a debian-installer upload but also an ubiquity update; would it be possible to have an ubiquity upload today as well as debian-installer?14:00
loolOr evand, I don't know why I'm speaking to cjwatson specifically here14:00
* lool realizes he has no clue how to upload ubiquity properly14:01
cjwatsonlool: it can't possibly need a debian-installer upload14:05
cjwatsonflash-kernel-installer isn't in the d-i initrd14:06
cjwatsonlool: there should be a ubiquity upload reasonably soon containing it14:06
cjwatsonevand: ^- migration-assistant source should be published now?14:06
loolcjwatson: Oh ok, I thought flash-kernel was in the d-i initrd14:08
loolcjwatson: I do need a d-i upload to test the netboot images14:08
loolcjwatson: Not in the initrd > I guess you mean the mx51 one?14:09
loolIt must be in at least iop32x14:09
cjwatsonlool: I uploaded d-i earlier today; it's waiting for approval14:10
loolAh that's why, ok thanks14:10
cjwatsonlool: no, it's not in any initrd; it's fetched into the installer at run-time14:10
* ogra is fine adding the script manually for testing14:11
ograwould just be good to have it for tomorrows image14:11
loolcjwatson: I see; thanks for the explanation14:11
cjwatsonlool: the only components that require d-i rebuilds are those that are needed by the installer in order to start up and fetch more bits of itself14:11
cjwatsona simple image rebuild will be entirely sufficient to pull in flash-kernel onto d-i-based images14:11
loolOk14:11
cjwatsonfeel free to kick one off14:12
loolConcerning d-i, I'm mostly interested in testing the latest netboot kernel + initrds14:12
loolversatile and iop32x14:12
loolI could test alternate again, but I tested lpia yesterday and I'm not sure we care about the armel alternates in the form of SD cards images14:12
cjwatsonproblem is that slangasek isn't up yet, pitti's on holiday, and I don't want to accept my own uploads during a freeze14:12
ogralool, itym ixp4xx14:13
cjwatsoner, pitti's at a conference, rather14:13
loologra: Yes, that too, but I can't test ixp4xx14:14
ograright14:14
loologra: Which is why I've asked you about that one14:14
ograyou knew why you gave away the device :P14:14
cjwatsonis there an icon somewhere that would be useful to identify .img files on cdimage.ubuntu.com?14:15
loolcjwatson: Eh I thought the same14:15
cjwatsona bit like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdicons/iso.png14:15
loolI think a floppy icon would be ok14:15
cjwatsonanywhere I can find a 22x22 png?14:15
ograwe have beautiful SD icons14:15
loolI'm looking for one14:16
ogracant you use that one ?14:16
cjwatsonogra: where?14:16
* ogra looks14:16
ograon my desktop if i pop in an SD :P14:16
lool/usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png14:16
lool/usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png actually14:17
cjwatsonHuman/22x22 rather than gnome/24x24 perhaps?14:17
loolOh right, there's an Human one as well, just sawit14:17
loolcjwatson: +114:17
ogra/usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png14:17
ograbah14:17
ograi'm definately to slow14:18
cjwatsonit'll be used for USB images too, though; they share an extension so I can't distinguish them14:18
cjwatsonI don't think that's a major problem for the moment14:19
ogra/usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-harddisk.png ?14:19
loolcjwatson: If anyone ask I'll pretend they are meant for USB SD card readers   :-P14:20
cjwatsonheh14:20
loologra: /usr/share/icons/Human/22x22/devices/gnome-dev-floppy.png !14:20
cjwatsonogra: if you're OK with that being used for SD cards?14:20
ograwell, its more generic14:21
ograi love the SD icon though14:21
cjwatsonI need a decision14:21
ograbut thats personal preference and its right that we use .img for USB as well14:21
loolI don't care either way14:21
cjwatsonI'll go for gnome-dev-harddisk then14:22
* lool votes for cjwatson's choice14:22
ograsaldy its white and wont have good contrast on the page14:22
cjwatsonnot much more so than the .iso image14:23
ograyeah14:23
loolOh the link is to the .ISO in the header14:25
cjwatsonhmm?14:25
looland should probably say SD card instead of install CD14:25
cjwatsonoh, I'm fixing all that at the moment14:25
loolGreat14:25
ograyes, the text from the beta should go in there14:25
cjwatsonI made it be "image" so that I didn't have to make it architecture-specific14:25
loolNice14:26
ogramodulo the link to the wikipage14:26
cjwatsonfor karmic, can we please make different form factors have different extensions?14:26
ogra.sdimg .usbimg ?14:26
cjwatsonI don't care as long as it's different14:26
* ogra was hoping that the next gen babbage can use USB boot :)14:26
loolcjwatson: They really are different use cases in the same file format; shouldn't we split them up in subdirs rather?14:26
loolOh well I guess we can have multiple extensions for the same fiel format14:27
cjwatsonlool: in that case the "desktop" bit should change, or something14:27
cjwatsonanyway, later :)14:27
cjwatsonogra: what should https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BabbageJauntyBetaInstall become?14:27
loolYeah (what I had in mind was for netboot/, hd-media/ etc. like in d-i)14:28
cjwatsonit would be nice if that were a persistent URL, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting14:28
ogracjwatson, good question, we dont have a generic page for SD installs14:28
cjwatsonperhaps you could just incorporate it into https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting ?14:28
ograyeah14:28
ograpoint to there14:28
ograi'll update the content later14:28
cjwatsonthat would be a lot easier from the cdimage point of view, since it will already point to there without me changing anything :)14:29
ograthe beta page was relly beta specific ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageWriting already describes how to dd an image ...14:29
cjwatsonok then, I think that should basically be it sorted out now14:29
ograthough USB-imagewriter doesnt know about SDs14:29
ograif i find a spare minuite over easter i might add support for that14:30
ogracjwatson, oh, btw, confirming that the radiobutton issue is solved here14:32
ograthey have text again in german14:32
cjwatsonyay14:33
cjwatsonthank Robert14:33
ograand partitioning the spare space on my live SD works as well14:34
ograbah, i take back the last comment14:37
ograsilly me, indeed it needs to re-read the part. table if i create new partitions14:38
ograso i'll install to the usb reader instead14:38
cjwatsonogra: is bug 348060 fixed now?14:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 348060 in ubuntu-cdimage "no way to create initial bootloader configuration on imx51 images" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34806014:41
ograif the net flash-kernel is included in ubiquity it will14:41
cjwatsonogra: that can't possibly be an ubuntu-cdimage bug14:42
ograthe cdimage task at least, we should probably add a whishlist redboot-tools bug14:42
cjwatsonubuntu-cdimage bugs must be for the image building, not whatever happens to be in the image14:42
cjwatsondidn't lool already fix that redboot-tools bit?14:42
ograi want to add a redboot-install script similar to grub-install in KK14:42
ograwe dont have a sript doing the work yet ... you need to manually create the fis partitions, dd redboot in place dd fconfig.bin in place etc14:43
cjwatsonbut cdimage does that now14:43
ograits possible to do it, but with a bunch of manual steps14:43
ograright14:43
ograthe cdimage task can be closed14:44
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3204 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):14:44
CIA-28ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: migration-assistant14:44
CIA-28ubiquity: 0.6.4.14:44
ograi'm talking about people wanting to create bootable SDs themselves14:44
cjwatsonsure, perhaps a separate bug14:44
ografor that i want redboot-install14:44
cjwatsonI'm triaging ubuntu-cdimage bugs, don't really care about the other bits right now :)14:44
ograright, close that one :)14:45
ograat least if flash-kernel is in14:45
ograjust testing yesterdays script changes here14:45
cjwatsona cdimage bug cannot be subject to flash-kernel changes14:45
cjwatsonflash-kernel is not used in the CD image build process, as you know14:46
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3205 ubiquity/debian/po/ (80 files): debconf-updatepo14:46
ogracjwatson, right, and i was mixing ubiquity with cdimage14:48
kwwiihi14:51
evandhi14:51
evandso I just wanted to move the conversation about changes to the time zone map here14:51
evandso that we could discuss it as a group14:51
kwwiiright, we've had a discussion with mark who was very unhappy with the time zone look14:51
cjwatsonkwwii: what version was he looking at?14:52
kwwiicjwatson: the latest daily14:52
cjwatsonok, better than beta at least14:52
kwwiiright14:52
kwwiihe would like to see the colors of the whole thing change...that might take a bit because I will have to export it all and then show it to him for approval14:53
kwwiias well as seeing the cities even when the timezone is not selected14:53
kwwiinot the city names, just faded out dots or such14:53
evandI'm concerned on that latter point14:53
evandI think it would make it look overly complicated14:53
kwwiiright, both of those things are kinda major14:53
cjwatsonthis also seems like something that should have been done pre-UI freeze14:54
evandand would really look awful as we don't 100% accurately project the points onto the map14:54
kwwiievand: well, if the dots were mostly tranparent they wouldn't get in your face, as long as there are not too many of them14:54
cjwatsonthere's one "city" for every possible timezone choice14:54
kwwiiright, I was assuming that this would be hard to due to the difference of the city data and the map I made14:54
kwwiicjwatson: so you are saying that for each time zone only one preselected city will be shown?14:55
kwwiiie, the point of showing the city is to show the current time in that zone14:55
cjwatsonmost time zones have more than one city14:56
cjwatsonthe purpose of selecting a city is that it is a reasonably comprehensible way to determine both the country and the time zone in one shot14:56
cjwatsonso I should have said that there's one city for every possible combination of country and time zone14:56
cjwatson(it also avoids all the geopolitical crap you get into if you try to ask people to choose countries ... the existence of cities is typically not controversial)14:57
kwwiicjwatson: ok, that is what I expected14:58
kwwiievand: most important is that we make the overlay itself look better14:59
cjwatsonfor jaunty I think we need to defer to evand regarding matters of map projection; that has already consumed much of Evan's time this cycle and I think we have run out of time to make it 100% accurate14:59
evandI just want to emphasize the point I made about it looking wrong if we plot every point.  We'd need to make the dots small to fit them all, and the smaller we make them, the more accurate it has to be.  And due to the projection used for the map image, that's just not possible.14:59
kwwiiright, I can easily see that would be a lot of work14:59
evandok14:59
cjwatsonchanging the colours is less difficult, but I'm concerned that documenters will already have taken screenshots at this point15:00
cjwatsoncould somebody coordinate with ubuntu-doc?15:00
evandcoordinate as in tell them to retake them, or ask if it would be ok?15:00
kwwiicjwatson: I can help in any way possible to get this done15:00
cjwatsonthe latter prior to the former15:00
cjwatsonkwwii: time machine pls15:00
cjwatson(kthxbye)15:00
kwwii;)15:00
kwwiiI forgot it as home :(15:01
kwwiimisspelling a joke kinda ruins it, eh?15:01
evandright, so then are we saying we're going to just fix the colors, or take the more adventurous step of fixing the text as well?15:01
cjwatsonwhich text?15:02
kwwiievand: I would just like to add a rounded almost black box to the background of the text15:02
cjwatsonoh, that15:02
kwwiithe city/time time which is overlayed15:02
kwwiicurrently it is almost impossible to see15:02
evandhttp://sinecera.de/time_mock2.png15:02
evand^ for context15:02
cjwatsonright, I'd seen that15:02
kwwiievand: yeah, but forget about the half-trasnparent version15:03
cjwatsonif this can be done by the end of the week, I'm OK with it15:03
cjwatsonotherwise I think it has to be out15:03
kwwiijust the different dot and the background bubble15:03
cjwatsonwhy are there two dots on that mockup?15:03
evandI can try, but I cannot promise to get it done as I have a train to catch at 7pm tonight and I still need to pack.15:03
evandbut I'll definitely get started on it now15:04
cjwatsonwe should get an upload of the current ubiquity stuff in first15:04
evandit has been15:04
evandjust waiting for approval again15:04
cjwatsonoh, I didn't realise15:04
cjwatsonI think it'd be better to commit the release change, TBH - it's confusing to try to do further work on the branch otherwise15:05
evandsure15:05
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3206 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.12.615:05
cjwatsonthanks15:05
evandsure thing15:05
cjwatsonevand: oh, you're presumably on holiday tomorrow as well as I15:06
evandindeed15:06
kwwiiyeah, I was going to skip part of the holiday to get this done :(15:06
cjwatsonnext time, this really needs to happen earlier15:06
kwwiicjwatson: right, totally agreed...I think we missed the testing period of this stuff15:06
kwwiiprobably need to coordinate this better in the future15:07
cjwatsonis Mark saying "must be fixed by jaunty or you're all fired" or similar?15:07
kwwiito be honest, quite a few other people say that they like the colors and that the new time zone selector looks much nicer15:07
cjwatsonbecause otherwise, I would rather defer changes than have people kill themselves over holidays15:07
kwwiicjwatson: right, exactly....he was very loudly unhappy about this15:08
kwwiiif I could find a way to get around this I would, trust me15:08
evandI might be able to squeeze out some time this weekend, but obviously can't promise15:08
evandbut I'll focus on today first15:08
kwwiievand: is there anything I can do to make this easier? do you need a graphic or something to help?15:09
evandnope, it's just cairo.  I'd concentrate on the colors for now, and do let me know if the requirements change further15:09
evandI'll keep you posted on my progress15:09
kwwiievand: cool, I'm pretty much always online and I'm happy to help whenever and however I can to get this done15:11
evandthanks, and very much appreciated15:11
kwwiievand: thanks :-)15:11
evandanytime15:11
ogracjwatson, the reboot change wasnt in the archive yet, right ?15:18
ogra(i just see the hang here for the first time with the 09.1 image)15:19
cjwatsonogra: it should be ...15:19
ograhmm15:19
ogradoesnt properly end the session here15:20
cjwatsonogra: oh, sorry, I got mixed up. No, it's only just been uploaded15:20
ograright, phew15:20
ografunny is that i didnt have it before yet, even though others reported it over and over15:21
ogragreat, and the new flash-kernel-installer postinst DTRT too15:22
ograso it looks like we have a usable image for babbage now :)15:22
cjwatsonexcellent15:22
ograit still has issues, but is good as a developer image which was the target15:23
ogra(no usplash etc)15:23
loologra, cjwatson: Pushed a new debian-cd which will create a partition for the FIS; I consider the debian-cd / cdimage bits done now, let me know if some stuff is missing15:55
evandargh, and again X locks.  I really need to start wiring up ubiquity in the live environment via sshfs or nfs.15:55
ogralool, i'll test the next image deeply then :)15:56
loologra: I reverted the change in the redboot offset in FIS15:56
loolBecause it required changing the length as well, and I'm pretty sure redboot / ecos don't like that15:56
loolBut I documented the reason verbosely though15:56
ograwell, if the image still works i dont care :)15:57
davmor2evand: should I write a bug about the kubuntu installer?16:05
evandplease16:06
davmor2no problems16:09
davmor2did you have any joy finding out what had caused it?16:09
davmor2hello xivulon wubi r118 works a charm16:11
xivuloncool, we have to investigate this issue though 35835616:14
xivuloncan you install on vista targeting a drive which is not C:?16:15
davmor2xivulon: I can but latter I need to run some other tests first.  I logged it down the minute I saw it this morning16:16
davmor2I'll add to the bug as soon as I can16:17
xivulonI can only do debugging tonight, then I am off16:17
cjwatsonlool: thanks16:17
davmor2xivulon: it'll be about an hour or so16:17
xivulonthat's fine16:17
davmor2evand: bug 35851916:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 358519 in ubiquity "Jaunty: Ubiquity-frontend-kde step 4 should display bars for partitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35851916:18
xivulonevand, I do have some code for 341609 and 347449 but  it's not one liners and I would rather skip them at this stage16:18
xivulondo not think they are that important16:19
xivulonthere are a couple of UI glitches left, without XP theme, in a groupbox, the box line goes through the label16:20
ogradavmor2, tsk, devs always think of beer ... bars ... /ma shakes head ... take pies !16:20
ogra*me even16:20
xivulonalso the vertical image is a bit off when you use windows themes, I would assume that it has to do with dialog units16:21
* davmor2 looks disdainfully at ogra and drops head in hands 16:21
xivulonIf I have time to work on them tonight _and_ it is a one liner that I will pull, otherwise I will leave it as is.16:24
xivulonI will push16:24
xivulonps davmor did you have a chance to test a build pointing to the beta ISO? That is to test bittorrent downloader.16:25
xivulondavmor2, you can build one yourself by modifying the first URL in data/isolist.ini and compiling (make)16:26
davmor2xivulon: can't I just drop wubi on vista and run it from there?16:28
xivulonfor vista sure, that was another issue16:28
xivulonI would like to test bittorrent, unfortunately though the preference in the metalink file for bittorrent is lower than the preference assigned to some http urls16:29
xivulonthat is for the beta16:29
xivulonso I do not think that bittorrent has really been tested much other than by myself16:29
davmor2xivulon: ah right with you now.  I'll have a look at that after16:30
xivulonwell you will have to change the code also, because on the ubuntu server bittorrent is assigned low priority and hence it will be skipped16:30
xivulonwell in any case the code is in a try-catch statements and if there are issues with bt we can disable it remotely by modifying the metalink file...16:31
xivulonevand be aware of ^16:31
davmor2xivulon: wubi-r118.exe should run without being on the cd correct?16:45
davmor2evand: ^16:47
evandyes16:47
davmor2stgraber: ^16:47
davmor2stgraber: it should run so talk to these guys16:48
stgraberI get a ASCII unicode kind of issue from python16:48
stgraberlikely something broken when using a translated OS or having special characters in the username16:49
stgraberit's not my laptop so we're currently on something else16:49
cjwatsonkirkland: bug 236640 seems to have had a notable lack of love. I'm uploading a partial fix (/usr/sbin/iscsi-iname -> iscsi-iname) but it'd be really good if somebody could look at it properly, as there seems to be a bit more to it than that. For example iscsi_discovery tries to use awk which doesn't exist in the installer16:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 236640 in open-iscsi "iSCSI install fails under hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23664016:50
davmor2evand: that could be a show stopper for most of the world16:51
evandwhat would?16:51
xivulondavmor2 yes it should run from CD, without CD, or running from HD with a CD inserted16:52
davmor2evand:  stgraber's issue16:52
xivulonstgraber, do you have more info?16:52
xivulonparticularly a log (it's in the user temp folder, %temp% in explorer)16:53
stgraberxivulon: not really, I saw the log but now the guy is gone16:53
xivulondavmor can you enter a non ascii char in the username?16:53
davmor2xivulon: I can have a look16:54
davmor2evand: bug 358548 too16:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 358548 in ubiquity "Jaunty: Ubiquity-frontend-kde step 5 has a bunch of warning signs down the side of it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35854816:58
evandhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/tmp/timezone.png - just need to fix up some minor nits17:07
cjwatsonnice17:08
cjwatsonjust to check, what happens if you try to click within the text area to select a city there?17:08
kirklandcjwatson: okay, i'll have a look17:09
davmor2evand: oh pretty17:10
evandcjwatson: works as expected17:10
cjwatsongood good17:11
evandthat is, it selects the nearest city to where you clicked17:11
cjwatsonkwwii: can you sign off on that look?17:11
robbiewevand: good work evand17:12
evandthanks17:12
cjwatsondavmor2: there's an outside chance that 358548 is my fault, so I'll have a look shortly17:21
evandright, I really need to pack if I have any hope of catching this train.  I'm going to commit this as-is, and if tweaks are needed we can modify it from there.  If Mark also wants this applied to oem-config we'll need to rip the CairoExtensions class out of the segmented_bar module.17:28
CIA-28ubiquity: evand * r3207 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/timezone_map.py):17:31
CIA-28ubiquity: Draw a box around the time zone text and a highlight around the time17:31
CIA-28ubiquity: zone point so that they are more legible.17:31
davmor2bye evand17:33
evandcheers17:33
cjwatsonthanks!17:33
evandanytime17:35
kirklandcjwatson: hmm, okay, just looked at the iscsi bug;  i haven't loved this bug at all in the jaunty cycle17:50
kirklandcjwatson: my understanding from dendrobates was that server transferred ownership of iscsi over to the foundations team17:50
kirklandcjwatson: hence i haven't touched it17:50
kirklandcjwatson: i'll test an iso when one becomes available with your new patch17:51
kirklandcjwatson: though, i'm at the LF conference right now, and bandwidth is abysmal17:52
kirklandcjwatson: it might be easier to wedge the udeb into a beta iso i have17:52
cjwatsonkirkland: I think it may have fallen between the cracks then17:55
kirklandcjwatson: yeah, sorry about that.  i see now that it was assigned to me by slangasek17:56
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3208 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):18:10
CIA-28ubiquity: Stop error images always being shown on the user page (LP: #358548). The18:10
CIA-28ubiquity: GTK frontend got away with this because the widgets in question are18:10
CIA-28ubiquity: hidden in the glade file; the KDE frontend wasn't so lucky.18:10
superm1evand, i'm not sure you'd entirely want to support this yet; but would it be worthwhile to squeeze a checkbox into the advanced button of the UI for toggling the debconf for grub2 enablement?  It might prove useful to be there for helping to gather more feedback prior to the session about switching to grub2 at UDS.18:12
CIA-28ubiquity: cjwatson * r3209 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.12.718:23
CIA-28casper: cjwatson * r616 trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):18:31
CIA-28casper: 43disable_updateinitramfs: The /cdrom mount has been moved to18:31
CIA-28casper: /root/cdrom by the time this script runs, so check that instead.18:31
CIA-28casper: cjwatson * r617 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.17218:31
xivulonhi davmor219:31
davmor2xivulon: hi vista extra partition done19:32
davmor2moving wubi.mbr fixes it19:32
xivulondavmor2, could you use easy bcd and let me know what is your configuration after having installed wubi in D:?19:32
xivulonI assume that vista is installed in C: and you targeted D: in wubi, correct?19:32
davmor2yeah19:32
davmor2right just booting back into vista now19:33
davmor2xivulon: how do I check with easybcd then?19:35
xivulonI haven't used it in a while but basically if you run there is a button to show current configuration19:36
davmor2xivulon: do you want this adding to the bug or just here?19:41
xivulonyou can pastebin it19:41
xivulonI think I found it, ops evand is not here19:43
davmor2xivulon: no evand has gone19:44
xivulondavmor have you have ever compiled wubi 9.04?19:44
davmor2no19:44
xivulonwell there is always a first time I guess :)19:44
xivulondo you feel like it? should not be too difficult19:45
davmor2can do19:45
davmor2give me a minute though19:45
xivulondo you run a 64 bit version of ubuntu?19:45
davmor2yeap19:45
xivulonthen you need to install the 32bit compat libraries (forgot the name) and mingw19:46
davmor2xivulon: bcd won't let me copy paste :(19:46
xivulonI assume that you have device partition=D:19:46
xivulonshould be device partition =C:19:47
davmor2partition+d19:47
davmor2path \wubi.mbr19:47
davmor2s/+/=19:47
davmor2xivulon: found a way round it :)19:50
xivulonwhich is?19:52
davmor2http://www.davmor2.co.uk/wcfg.jpg19:53
davmor2that's the detailed view19:53
xivulonyes that is as expected19:54
davmor2xivulon: hopefully it's legible enough19:54
xivulonI'll take it to private chate for the instructions19:55
kwwiiw00t, evand rocks!23:43

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