| timClicks | hi all, i'm new to packaging and am currently working on bug #271260, i'm trying to get https://launchpad.net/sahana/trunk uploaded into REVU | 00:02 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 271260 in ubuntu "Sahana - disaster management application - for inclusion to repos, deb uploaded" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271260 | 00:02 |
| timClicks | i have two questions | 00:02 |
| timClicks | 1) is there a guide on packaging programmes written in interpreted languages (PHP ideally) | 00:02 |
| directhex | does debian have a pkg-php team? they might have a guide | 00:03 |
| directhex | if not, look at another package & steal their packaging files | 00:03 |
| timClicks | 2) a debian/changelog, etc. has not been used so far - is it sufficient to have *first Ubuntu package in the log? | 00:04 |
| timClicks | directhex - cheers, will look into it | 00:04 |
| directhex | timClicks, yes. use "dch" to edit changelogs. | 00:05 |
| timClicks | ok - that's a relief, there's +3800 revisions already | 00:07 |
| maxb | timClicks: Yes, it's perfectly normal for the first debian/changelog entry to just say "* Initial package (LP: #number of needs-packaging bug)." | 00:19 |
| maxb | I see pbuilder-dist has the option to create i386 chroots on amd64, but it doesn't use linux32 when invoking things in them (afaics) | 00:35 |
| maxb | Does that matter? | 00:35 |
| directhex | maxb, in some cases, yes | 00:43 |
| directhex | maxb, exceedingly stupid cases, mind you | 00:43 |
| maxb | The only one I know of is uname | 00:49 |
| maxb | :-/ | 00:54 |
| maxb | So far I've managed to cram all my pbuilder magic into .pbuilderrc, but it looks like there just aren't the hooks for this. | 00:55 |
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| timClicks | debian/control question : is it possible to set an either/or dependency? | 01:53 |
| bddebian | foo | bar | 01:56 |
| timClicks | ta | 01:57 |
| ossud | hi! | 04:38 |
| nhandler | Hey ossud | 04:38 |
| ossud | i would like to compile software packages for the ubuntu universe repo ... where can i upload my .debs? | 04:39 |
| ossud | (mostly not my own programs) | 04:39 |
| timClicks | ossud: try googling REVU | 04:40 |
| nhandler | ossud: You can also upload them to your PPA on Launchpad | 04:40 |
| ossud | u shure? because i would upload programs of other people which i had compiled from source | 04:42 |
| ossud | (not the people) | 04:42 |
| nhandler | ossud: You would need to actually packagethe application before you could upload it to these locations | 04:42 |
| ossud | as .deb | 04:43 |
| nhandler | ossud: No, a .deb is a binary package. You would need to upload the source package | 04:44 |
| nhandler | ossud: Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete for all the information you could ever want about creating the source package | 04:44 |
| ossud | thanks but i don't own the source | 04:44 |
| ossud | how can i be shure that's ok with the developer of this app? | 04:45 |
| nhandler | ossud: Check the license the code is released under | 04:45 |
| ossud | ah! | 04:46 |
| ossud | would this appear in a repo or just on the site? | 04:47 |
| nhandler | ossud: The license should be included in the .tar.gz that contains the source code | 04:47 |
| ossud | i ment: would the appilikation then be includet in a ubuntu repo where i can install it from? | 04:49 |
| ossud | because i saw that there are a lot of old versions of programs in the normal repos | 04:51 |
| nhandler | ossud: Your PPA is a repository. If you want it included in the official ubuntu repositories, follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 04:52 |
| ossud | thank you! you are very kind :) | 04:52 |
| calc | what is the proper Ubuntu MOTU line for maintainer field? | 05:53 |
| calc | Ubuntu MOTU Team <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> ? | 05:54 |
| StevenK | Ubuntu MOTU Developers | 05:55 |
| jdong | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebianMaintainerField | 05:55 |
| jdong | see Design | 05:56 |
| jdong | (but in short StevenK is always right :D) | 05:56 |
| calc | ah ok | 05:58 |
| * calc is beating a package someone else created into revu clean | 05:58 | |
| calc | what do i do for a package that has no original source location, eg just in a branch in lp bzr? | 05:59 |
| calc | grr i can't determine how to cause make to execute a grep after bzr checkout to determine the version number, it seems to do it immediately before the bzr checkout even happens | 06:18 |
| calc | trying to do something like this: | 06:18 |
| calc | bzr co lp:~flimm/+junk/bash-ooo-thumbnailer && \ | 06:18 |
| calc | UPSTREAM_VERSION=`grep version bash-ooo-thumbnailer/setup.py | cut -f 2 -d \\"` && \ | 06:18 |
| calc | mv bash-ooo-thumbnailer ooo-thumbnailer-$(UPSTREAM_VERSION) | 06:18 |
| calc | is there a way to delay evalution until execution? | 06:19 |
| calc | got it working :) | 06:29 |
| calc | needed $$ | 06:29 |
| calc | grr now its complaining about setup.py not having a copyright | 07:11 |
| calc | anyone have any ideas about this: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/report.py/legal?upid=5448 | 07:13 |
| mrooney | calc: shouldn't setup.py have a copyright file? that seems like a legit complaint | 07:20 |
| calc | mrooney: its already listed as cc public domain in the header | 07:20 |
| mrooney | ah I see | 07:21 |
| calc | mrooney: i think maybe its a problem of the revu grepper not being good enough? | 07:21 |
| mrooney | that could be, if lintian is fine with it | 07:21 |
| calc | i fixed it up to say this and it is still complaining: | 07:21 |
| calc | +# Copyright 2009 - David D Lowe <DavidDLowe.flimm@gmail.com> | 07:21 |
| calc | +# Released into the public domain: | 07:21 |
| calc | +# http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ | 07:21 |
| calc | yea lintian was clean long before revu got close to passing it | 07:21 |
| calc | the setup.py itself is what is public domain the script is licensed as gpl | 07:22 |
| mrooney | I assume you aren't the owner and can't just gpl the setup.py the same way? | 07:22 |
| calc | no | 07:22 |
| * calc is headed to bed, maybe someone will take a look at it later today :) | 07:23 | |
| calc | once i get it approved i am going to send it back to the original author since he also made the debian packaging but it had lots of issues | 07:25 |
| * calc gone to bed now | 07:29 | |
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| savvas | hm.. | 08:54 |
| savvas | │ The configuration file /etc/default/console-setup specifies a keyboard │ | 08:54 |
| savvas | │ layout and variant that are not supported by the configuration program. │ | 08:54 |
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| Laney | What's the exception process for bugfix uploads now? | 10:50 |
| Laney | The mail that slangasek linked to implies that only one ack is needed. Is that right? | 10:51 |
| mok0 | Laney: what mail are you referring to? | 10:55 |
| james_w | the freeze mail | 10:55 |
| mok0 | Ha, just got it this second | 10:58 |
| james_w | there's also https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-October/004845.html | 10:59 |
| james_w | which confuses matters a bit more | 10:59 |
| james_w | perhaps motu-release would like to comment on whether that policy will be used again | 11:00 |
| Toadstool | hi all | 11:17 |
| * Laney mails the list | 11:19 | |
| Laney | hi Toadstool | 11:19 |
| Toadstool | hi Laney | 11:20 |
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| radix | hi guys, is there a good place to put instructions for future maintainers? i.e., for procedures on making updates to the package, version number conventions, and so on? | 15:05 |
| james_w | radix: debian/README.Source is the preferred place for that I think | 15:06 |
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| james_w | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-readmesource | 15:07 |
| james_w | debian/README.source sorry | 15:07 |
| radix | okay, cool | 15:07 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:11 |
| mehdid | general question: if a bug is found in a package (in a supported version of ubuntu, not current), what can I do to get it updated (if possible)? Can I make an updated package and send a link to the .dsc? | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | mehdid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 15:29 |
| joaopinto | !sru | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 15:31 |
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| mehdid | ubottu: thanks, that's what I was looking for | 15:32 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 15:32 |
| mehdid | :) | 15:32 |
| CarlFK1 | why does pbuilder depend on postfix? http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/pbuilder | 16:03 |
| Pici | CarlFK1: I don't see that listed there. | 16:04 |
| CarlFK1 | Pici: it must be in the tree somewhere | 16:04 |
| Pici | hm | 16:05 |
| CarlFK1 | what's the d-foo command that shows the tree? | 16:06 |
| geser | I guess it's because pbuilder recommends devscripts which recommends bsd-mailx which depends on postfix | mta | 16:07 |
| CarlFK1 | oh yeah... something about now recommendeds get installed by default | 16:12 |
| jpds | --no-install-recommends. | 16:13 |
| CarlFK1 | is there a way to not prompt "Hit <enter> to confirm:" dh_make --single -f ../sphinx3-3.7.tar.bz | 16:15 |
| calc | anyone have time to revu a package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/ooo-thumbnailer | 16:16 |
| calc | its still complaining about a file but i think its just a bad test afaict | 16:17 |
| RainCT | calc: nevermind the legal thing, that's just the output of license-check | 16:17 |
| calc | RainCT: ok | 16:17 |
| RainCT | calc: is that for Jaunty? | 16:18 |
| calc | RainCT: yea | 16:18 |
| calc | RainCT: trying to get it in for jaunty to universe | 16:18 |
| RainCT | calc: No need to install the README as it doesn't say anything useful; e-mail of upstream is missing in the manpage (and it is a bit poor anyway, at least adding an example would be good); debian/copyright doesn't mention from where the source is; drop all changelog entries except for one with version -0ubuntu1. | 16:23 |
| RainCT | That's all I can find from looking at the diff | 16:24 |
| calc | ok | 16:25 |
| * calc didn't do the original packaging but is trying to beat it into shape | 16:25 | |
| calc | RainCT: will dropping back to 0ubuntu1 work uploading to revu? | 16:26 |
| RainCT | calc: Yep, REVU doesn't mind about the version number | 16:26 |
| calc | ok | 16:26 |
| RainCT | It takes whatever you give it and achieves it labeled with the upload date | 16:27 |
| calc | ok | 16:27 |
| RainCT | *archives | 16:28 |
| fatal_ | would be nice if someone would do the necessary massaging to get iproute synced from debian.... see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iproute/+bug/335554 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 335554 in iproute "iproute in Jaunty is out of date" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
| fatal_ | ^-- filed by upstream himself. | 16:46 |
| cjwatson | fatal_: needs a freeze exception, and is far from guaranteed to get one at this point; "out of date with respect to upstream" isn't in itself enough | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | I understand it's missing some things but we also have to consider our fallback position if things break | 16:56 |
| cjwatson | james_w: ^- reminder for that bug, since you were looking at it earlier | 16:57 |
| cjwatson | fatal_: sorry we apparently forgot about this, I think it may have to wait for karmic at this point | 16:57 |
| james_w | ah, damn | 16:57 |
| james_w | thanks for the ping | 16:57 |
| cjwatson | (but will let james_w decide if he wants to go for a freeze exception) | 16:57 |
| directhex | i wonder if a pretty MOTU could tickle https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/358558 before the next level of freeziness begins | 17:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 358558 in monodevelop-boo "Sync monodevelop-boo 2.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,New] | 17:09 |
| fatal_ | cjwatson: no need to say sorry. I'm just suggesting that it's a possibility to update it. I haven't seen any possible regressions and there has been no new issues reported since the lenny version = what you have.... | 17:09 |
| fatal_ | (personally I'm mostly here to poke around and see if there are any possibilities to hook up some nice ubuntu/debian collaboration contacts w.r.t. iproute. Don't really care if you update or not. :P) | 17:15 |
| fatal_ | anyway, feel free to send me an email if there's anything I can help out with.... I'd be happy to.... ah-iproute@debian.org | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | Is there a MOTU release person around? | 17:30 |
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| LaserJock | any MOTU Release people about? | 18:26 |
| iulian | LaserJock: A bit busy at the moment but I'm here. | 18:36 |
| LaserJock | the sugar team is wanting an FFe for the latest bug-fix releases of Sugar and I'd personally like to get it in, but I wanted to get some broader opinion from motu-release | 18:37 |
| iulian | LaserJock: I was looking at those packages right now. | 18:38 |
| LaserJock | iulian: ah, excellent | 18:39 |
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| bdmurray | iulian: Can you help explain the type of freeze we are in right now? | 18:47 |
| iulian | bdmurray: We are in Final Freeze, two weeks from the final release. Please see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-April/025259.html. | 18:55 |
| iulian | LaserJock: I'd say go ahead. | 18:55 |
| LaserJock | iulian: awesome, thanks | 18:55 |
| iulian | LaserJock: Would you like to take care of sponsoring those packages? | 18:55 |
| bdmurray | iulian: I did so "more intrusive changes" are okay now since it just started right? | 18:56 |
| LaserJock | iulian: I don't have to, if you'd like me to I can though | 18:56 |
| bdmurray | iulian: and no motu-release approval is required now? | 18:56 |
| iulian | LaserJock: That would be great, I'd appreciate it. | 18:57 |
| LaserJock | iulian: will do | 18:57 |
| iulian | bdmurray: What do you mean by "intrusive changes"? Could you upload a debdiff somewhere so I can see exactly what you're on about? | 18:58 |
| iulian | LaserJock: Thanks a lot. | 18:58 |
| bdmurray | iulian: that's the wording in the announcement you pointed me to. Regardless my specific question is about sponsoring the debdiff in bug 349114. It adds a patch system which may be inappropriate based off the wording in that announcement. | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 349114 in rawstudio "Rawstudio crashes on export" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349114 | 18:59 |
| iulian | bdmurray: By the way, all uploads to universe and multiverse will need to be acked by motu-release. | 19:00 |
| * iulian looks | 19:00 | |
| iulian | bdmurray: Yes, please go ahead and upload. | 19:02 |
| bdmurray | iulian: okay, thanks! | 19:02 |
| bdmurray | iulian: What's the correct process for getting an ack? asking in irc subscribing to the bug? | 19:03 |
| iulian | bdmurray: Subscribing motu-release is better IMHO. | 19:03 |
| iulian | I've just commented on that bug. | 19:03 |
| iulian | bdmurray: You could ask on IRC as well. That would make things easier for us. | 19:04 |
| iulian | Blah, I cannot find the list of motu-release delegates. :( | 19:06 |
| * iulian is always forgetting! | 19:07 | |
| iulian | Ah, got it. | 19:14 |
| ode | hi | 19:20 |
| ode | lintian is giving me an message about duplicate name for source and package in control | 19:23 |
| ode | how do I just name it once | 19:24 |
| ode | and then reference when I use it the second time? | 19:24 |
| geser | can you please pastebin your debian/control? | 19:24 |
| ode | http://pastebin.com/m39cf641 | 19:26 |
| hyperair | ode: can you give the exact lintian error? | 19:30 |
| hyperair | verbatim | 19:30 |
| geser | what's the exact lintian message? as the control looks ok to me | 19:30 |
| bddebian | Is it complaining about the duplicate section: perl? | 19:32 |
| ode | http://pastebin.com/d6724f4b0 | 19:32 |
| ode | i think it's the duplicate of the name of the package | 19:32 |
| bddebian | No, you don't need Section: perl in the binary if the sourc epackage is Section: perl | 19:33 |
| ode | I guess there is a way to reference the name | 19:33 |
| hyperair | ode: no you can omit Section: perl completely | 19:33 |
| hyperair | ode: in the binary package | 19:33 |
| hyperair | ode: just have it once in the source package section | 19:33 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: my favorite MOTU! | 19:34 |
| bddebian | Heh, your lame-ass MOTU! :) How are you? | 19:34 |
| LaserJock | doin' OK | 19:35 |
| LaserJock | can't wait to get Jaunty out the door | 19:35 |
| bddebian | heh | 19:35 |
| ode | thanks, that fixed it | 19:38 |
| LaserJock | anybody seen something like this before: | 19:38 |
| LaserJock | dh_install -psugar | 19:38 |
| LaserJock | dh_install: sugar missing files (debian/tmp/usr/lib/*), aborting | 19:38 |
| geser | isn't sugar written in python? | 19:39 |
| LaserJock | there's a debian/tmp/usr/lib/* line in sugar.install | 19:39 |
| LaserJock | but it shouldn't bail I'd think | 19:39 |
| geser | does the directory exist after running the install target? | 19:40 |
| geser | dh_install complains that it should install files from that location but they aren't there | 19:41 |
| geser | as sugar build-depends on python-dev my guess it it didn't transitioned to python 2.6 yet and installs the files to usr/local/lib (missing --install-layout=deb to setup.py install) | 19:42 |
| LaserJock | geser: I missed what you said | 19:44 |
| LaserJock | stupid Jaunty is locking up on me | 19:44 |
| geser | dh_install complains that it should install files from that location but they aren't there | 19:46 |
| geser | as sugar build-depends on python-dev my guess it it didn't transitioned to python 2.6 yet and installs the files to usr/local/lib (missing --install-layout=deb to setup.py install) | 19:46 |
| LaserJock | geser: ah, yeah, that'd make sense | 19:48 |
| ode | when i package a perl app am i meant to just rename the orig tarball to the perl naming scheme e.g. orig=stockmonkey-2.9013.tar.gz package=libmath-business-stockmonkey-perl-2.13? | 19:50 |
| ode | just wondered since it's meant to be orig, unchanged tarball | 19:51 |
| LaserJock | my goodness this is a nasty CDBS package | 19:54 |
| LaserJock | what's the point of using CDBS if you're just going to build your own .mk files anyway | 19:54 |
| Laney | siretart: do you have any preview debs for screen-profiles for debian for the daring? | 20:18 |
| * Laney likes it too much | 20:18 | |
| Laney | kirkland: good work on it btw \o | 20:21 |
| maxriskfactor | any MOTU here who manages eric? | 20:49 |
| MOKHTE | INA perian ki miharfe | 21:03 |
| geser | anyone here using vim and bicyclerepair? | 21:12 |
| bdmurray | iulian: Could you ack bug 254992? | 21:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 254992 in nicotine "Nicotine crashed because of unknown options in configuration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254992 | 21:22 |
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| ScottK | Other motu-release people: If there's stuff you've acked, that's been uploaded, but not accepted, please let me know and I'll accept it. | 21:55 |
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